January 23, 2025 • 62 mins
306 COLLETTE'S GO!
The gang goes wild with movies featuring Toni Collette!
Also discussed: Frankie Freako, The Primevals, Matilda the Musical.
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Strange eons. Welcome tostrangeeons radio. That is Eric
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over there. Hello, that isVanessa over there. Hello, and I
am Kelly. Hey guys, great to seeyou in person again. I love
that.
We are busting into Februaryhere very shortly, and the year
is going by quickly. I wasreminded that, you know,
cryptocon is only a couplemonths away now, and you just
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did something screening, right,that had crypto logo on it.
Yeah, good old Steve Lang, theguy who handles the guest for
crypto town, Seattle, puttogether a little screening of
sleepaway camp with Felicia rosecoming up and doing live
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commentary during the movie. IsSteve throwing in this couple
wonderful one liners during theevent, because, you know,
Steve's a pretty funny guy,Canadian and the so I,
he asked if I could help out.
Sure, I'll help. Like, okay,you're gonna sit with her and
take the money for theautographs. Like, I've never
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done that before. But okay,luckily, she is a wonderful
person, very sweet. I wasreminded of when we saw Clive
Barker all those years ago.
Yeah, because the the line wasreally slow moving, just like
Barker's. But nobody cared,because you could see that he
was spending great time witheveryone. It wasn't like he was
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paying a whole lot of attentionto that one person, then
ignoring everyone. And she didthe same thing, neat, and she
was just a joy, and pointed outthings in the movie I'd never
known, like a replacement actorthat shows up at one point, and
a few things like that.
Like the lady that goes over inthe canoe goes upside down, is
one woman, but when they pullher out of the water after
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rescuing her from the canoe withsomebody else.
There's a lot of accidents onthis lake. Yeah, there's not a
lot, not a lot of money in thatmovie. But it was a great
experience, and it was sold outshow. Oh, good. So I'm hoping
Steve will do this again withsomeone and just was a lot of
fun. Well done, Steve. Yeah, ifyou're local, cryptocon has been
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doing stuff like this allthrough the year. So the
festival, the convention,happens in May, but then
throughout the rest of the year,they're sponsoring stuff like
this. And so you should reallybe on the cryptom page or on
Eric's page, because I know youpromote the heck out of all that
stuff too, and look for thesereally neat opportunities.
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Okay, guys, I have seen somecool stuff. Oh, good. First one
I'm going to talk about is amovie on shutter called the
primevals. The primevals.
This is a funky movie that justcame out. It says 2024 on it. I
saw the trailer for it, and itsaid coming in, 2024 and I was
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watching this movie, and I waslike, this is definitely not
from 2024 the hairstyles looklike the early 90s, and the stop
motion looks like the 60s. Andit just looked like a lot of
fun. So I watched it came onshutter, and it is a
it's a full moon andbut it was originally supposed
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to be an empire film, because itfilmed in 88
and all the stop motion stuff isthe stop motion students who
were making this film back then,or actually it was a big stop
motion effects guy that wasmaking the film back then, who
died, and the film basically gotshelved. And then through some
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kind of Kickstarter, theybrought in these stop motion
students to finish the effectsand use the footage they had
shot. And then, you know, addedsome stuff from like last year
to make this really neat movieabout yetis. Oh, okay, and I
know what you're talking aboutnow, okay, and it is available
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on shutter for free now, and itis so much fun. It is really a
neat little movie, is it? Youknow, a great movie? No, but it
is very serviceable in thestory.
The acting and all that, andit's just a ton of fun. And the
back story is really, reallycool. So finally, decided to sit
down and watch it. And I was notdisappointed. Full Moon is new
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stuff, real rough, so it's neatto see them doing something like
that. Let's figure out some wayto do something interesting. The
only way they did this isbecause they had this footage
back when it was empire.
That's very cool, but it is onshutter now, so I would say,
check that out the Prime Evils.
Wow, very cool.
Well, I finally watched a artwork movie as well that was
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recommended to me by Kelly. Isaw wild robot. Oh, the wild
robot. Yeah. How many times didyou cry?
Probably, I definitely teared upa number of times. I don't know
if I was like, bawling at anypoint, but it was, it was so
sweet, so good. Yeah, I really,I really love that. And now I
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know what you're saying about,like, it's not just about like
parenthood or motherhood, butalso about like being a shit kid
to your parent. But no, it was.
It was just a great film. I knowwhy. Like, it's on a lot of
people's favorite lists for theyear, and, yeah, I don't just
loved it. Very cool. Did youwatch it with the child? No, she
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was asleep. She's asleepsomewhere. Why would I watch a
cartoon with her?
She's not as interested. I can,yeah, I can only get her to
really get into Miss Rachel andbluey right now. So, yeah, yeah.
Well, it is an amazing movie.
Probably going to be on my topfive too.
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Did you rent it? Did you buy it?
It was an Amazon purchase. But Ithink I'll get a actual physical
version. They have a one ofthose big the art of the wild
robot books that has all theproduction sketches. I might
have to pick that up. Yeah,yeah. It definitely feels like
beautiful. Yeah? No, it had alot of, like, great details and,
like, just really making thatwhole island come alive, and
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just every little section of itjust really neat. They did such
a good job. Yeah, and then justevery 10 minutes, I was like,
Oh, this is a this is wherethey're gonna end it. Oh, no,
there's a forest fire.
Oh, cool. Okay, we're stillgoing. I'm fine. Yeah, I
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mentioned this one to Dina, andshe's like, I don't think I want
to watch that one. Let me end upwatching
without her, but not quite readyfor the mom stories of pie.
Emotion. Totally understandable,totally understandable. Well, I
finally bit the bullet and gaveup my illusion of hoping you
would show up in theatersrandomly for some reason, but
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and watched dune two. Oh,I fucking loved it. Yeah, it
maintained everything that Iliked in the first one, and then
just amped everything up withthe the action and the war going
on and all this stuff alongthose lines.
The I still have a hard timepronouncing Harkonnen the way
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they do, just because I watchedLynch's doing for so long.
But thedevelopment of the Harkins and
what they are, and the fact thatthey introduced stuff about
politrades That was sort ofglossed over in other versions,
was neat.
The sand worms, I so wish I'dseen that. If that comes back,
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if sift does some kind of ayeah, see dune one and two. Oh,
okay, yeah, because those are,those are, those are amazingly
large, well donefor on screen dynamics, as I
call shit. But yeah, no, Ithought it was great. Yeah,
that, I think if you get achance, for sure, because that
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whole last third of the movie isso stellar in theaters. And
yeah, there was one weird thingthat pulled me out a little bit
hiring Christopher Walken to bethe Emperor. A lot of people
found that, because as soon asyou hear His voice, it's just
all the other characters are arelost in the people they are in
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the movie Sendai is maybe alittle bit less so, but
boy. Christopher Walken. It'sChristopher Walken, doesn't
matter what movie he is in. Ithink it helped me a lot that
he's like, pretty old now, and Ithink that allowed my brain to
be like he's he's sort of amuted version of what once he
could be. Oddly, when I couldsee him and hear him, it was
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less thing. But when his voicecame out and it was like, oh
shit, walking, but yeah, like,Okay, same man. Love this. Love
this series, this, I can't waitto see what he does with the
third one. Yeah.
Guess is some kind of preproduction already. Yeah,
amazing, cool. Not my thing, butI'm glad that you're loving it.
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Did you end up seeing this likeEllen? No, okay, based on how
much I dislike,no, you don't remember the what
two month saga? Do Ido? Not was it Charlemagne? Was
that a big part of it? That wasa big part of it? Yeah, I can
understand that.
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Not attractive, but aninteresting guy. I think he's
very attractive. See, he'sanother one. He's a girl.
There's like, three or four ofthose guys, and he's another one
with that look. I read somethingsomewhere the new look of
Hollywood. It's all these kindof twixy, creepy snake like
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looking guys. I mean, Adamdriver has, I mean same, and
even Benedict Cumberbatch, like,they're not like, when you first
look at these humans, it's like,Huh?
And then, like, their acting isso good, you do start to come
around and like, I definitelylove Adam Driver now. But
initially I was like, why isyeah, he goofy everywhere. He's
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a goofy looking dude. It's the,as the kids say, and age myself
horribly there. It's the Riz.
Those guys have term forcharisma. Oh, sure, I feel very
old right now.
This is the thing I wascomplaining about with the new
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Salem's Lot. Is that we haveevolved as a species, just in 50
years, we look a lot differentthan we used to. And so watching
These Kids in, you know, kids,adults who look like kids in a
period piece, I'm like, okay,that actor is playing a 30 year
old. And he probably is 30 yearsold, but he looks 18. So yeah,
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like the things that pop up inFacebook or whatever. Every once
in a while, it's like the agesof the Golden Girls when you're
watching iton that kind of sounds like,
Hold on What I'm both now olderthan fish. It's weird, and he
still looks 20 years older.
I had a moment where I had toexplain, like an over the hill
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birthday party to a friend ofmine. I was like, no, no. I
remember back in the day, whenyou turned 40, there were black
balloons all over people, yeah?
People would like, it was like afuneral birthday party mix. And
now we're like, ah, 40 is fine,yeah? So, yeah, 70s, the new 60.
Good Lord, living with an 83year old guy, you might have a
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point.
Okay, I saw something reallyfun. So a couple weeks ago I
talked about the yacht rockdocumentary, which was based on
a YouTube series from the early2000s called yacht rock, where
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these guys would put togetheractors, not actors their
friends, put fake beards andmustaches on them, and they
would play Michael McDonald andKenny Loggins. And they would
make these very funny, likeskits of how these guys would
meet and everything. I decidedto sit down and watch all 15
episodes, which is very easybecause they're about they're
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anywhere from 10 to 20 minuteslong each episode,
and it is hilarious. I don'tknow how I missed this back
then, but they deserve all thecredit they've been getting, and
they reallythey knew their music history,
and they have a good sense ofhumor, so they were able to
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twist things and make themfunny. If you know what they're
talking about, you're like, Ohmy God, that's not how it
happened. But that's amazingthat you would say that's how it
happened,and a lot of very, very funny
things and a lot of really neatlittle insights that I don't
know a lot of people know about.
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You know that, like MichaelMcDonald wrote the lyrics for
hallway for Van Halen. And sothere's a little minute there
where he's sitting there withVan Halen, you know, a bunch of
guys and long hair, and DavidLee Roth just being an asshole,
insufferable, and all thisstuff. And so I just really,
really appreciated this littleweb series from 2005 actually,
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it's like from 2005 to 2008 soWow, 15 episodes in three years,
and it is zero budget, sure. Andjust, very literally, just
friends with their cameras. Yes,that's cool. Yeah, check that
out. Very funny. You would loveit a lot. Eric, I watched a kind
of a reaction video, I guesshe'd say the yacht rock, you
know, Rick piano, the music guywho does YouTube stuff and talks
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a lot. He's an older guy whodoes music training and talks
about music. His reaction waskind of funny, because he really
hates the term.
Yacht rock.
And it's almost like, but didyou watch?
Did you see that? They, theykind of also hate the term yacht
rock. In the movie, youget the people who overdo it and
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do the live show dressed allthis, yeah, guys and stuff, but,
but he was talking about that'snot that's like rock and roll.
I'm going now you're a littleolder than me. I can tell,
because by the time I wasdiscovering that music that was,
like the Adult Contemporary,easy list, it was soft rock,
yeah, it was losing its glamorin the world when it was in the
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70s. Yeah, yeah. Boston and theyacht rock kind of guys, not
like Boston was the hot rock.
But you know what I mean, wherethe rock and roll, then they
weren't,but then they got rediscovered
and re appreciated by a strangeterm. So it's like, who cares?
They got re appreciaterediscovered. Mike McDonald can
now tour probably quitesuccessfully. Yeah, I told you I
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once sawtrain and REO Speedwagon, oh,
yeah, a couple months ago, andthe opening act was a, it was
called yacht rock review, and Iwas just in heaven, all right,
so they're really good. Yeah,they were amazing. And I was
like, Oh, this is, these guysare great. And they're just
playing hit after hit. You know,I can't argue with that. No.
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So anyway, that's on YouTube,just called yacht rock. Nice. I
have nothing to contribute here.
So speaking of awesome musicendeavors, so on New Year's Eve,
I ended up watching Matilda themusical because I'd heard that
it was really good, and I therewas nothing initially really
appealing about it to me, but Iwas like, ah, every so many
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people have said, This is greatthat I'm I'm gonna sit down and
check it out. It is like aperfect kids movie. Oh, cool. It
is so well done. It's wellacted, well danced, well sung.
And the art design is like ifyou took Wes Anderson's talent
and then scoped it into achild's imagination. Damn, it's
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so fucking cool. Like everyscene is how you would imagine
as a kid that would look liketheir their school when it feels
really oppressive and strange.
They've got like, chains hangingdown. Space is like cemented.
And then other times, you know,when things are fun, they've got
things painted all over thewalls, and there's, you know,
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flowers and stickers andwhatever like, it just is so
perfectly lived in. Plus, youjust get the benefits of it's a
really fun, well told story. Ilove the way they set things up.
They've got, oh, I'm forgettingher name now, who plays the
baddie?
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Gosh, sorry, Emma.
Holy crap. Go ahead, keeptalking. Oh, thank you. She does
such a good job. And she'salmost unrecognizable, frankly,
because you get so lost in theway that that she is playing
that character. Emma Thompson,yes, Emma Thompson, who plays
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this like big, gruff mountain ofa woman. But you just, she's
just doing it so convincingly.
But anyways, check it out. Ihave to say, if you want to feel
good for a day, check out thisfilm. It's awesome. I have a
weird they did the you've seenthe Rob Zombie, where they
insert Rob Zombie into the Ithink it's the one where they
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rebel and the dancing down thehalls and they topple the statue
at the end of that song that andthey inserted Rob,
the Rob Zombie, or White Zombiesong in there. And it's
fantastic. It works so well tothe kids singing and all this
stuff like. So I went and Iwatched just that scenes like,
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what is this? Holy shit? Yeah,that looks really good. My
expectations were. I did not. Idon't know what I thought it was
gonna be, but it just blew mydang stocks off. So fun. What is
that on?
I think it's on prime. It's onsomething for free. Okay, cool.
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Matilda, the musical, allright, okay, well,
if you were a big fan of psychoGorman or, I guess maybe the
void,his new movie, Steven, whatever
his last name is, where'd it go?
I just had it. It was Netflix,by the way, Netflix for free.
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Oh, cool. Steven kotan ski has anew film out called Frankie
Freako. Oh, okay. I kind of wishI'd known it was him before,
because psycho Gorman didn'treally work for me. The style of
humor just didn't.
Click for me. I know a lot ofpeople love it, and I get that
because it what it does. It doeswell, it just doesn't work for
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me. Unfortunately, this is kindof the same kind of humor. The
idea is there's this workaholicguy, and this is where the movie
worked for me a lot. Is the themain character is this goofy guy
who's always doing the rightthing and never
perfectionist, weirdo orsomething, and calls a one 909
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of Ricky Franco, which allowsthese creatures to take over his
life. Oh, and it's fun. It'sreally fun for about 20 minutes.
And the Frankie Freakoretribution story ends nicely.
His ending, well, not, notFrankie Freako Connor the
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workaholic ends well, so that'snice. So the wrap up, but it's
just not my humor. I'd say, ifyou like psycho Gorman, though,
definitely, definitely checkthis out. It's on Prime right
now, butit showed up on a few lists of
best of horror. I guess it'skind of horror. It's more
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comedy. You know, I wonder howold this guy is. I guess he's
probably about 10 years youngerthan you and I, because
everybody I know who lovespsycho Gorman is about 10 years
younger than you and I, and grewup with a certain kind of, like,
Power Rangers, esthetic andstuff like that, that you and I
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missed. Yeah, yeah, I didn'thave. And it definitely has, it
has that. So, yeah, I'd saythere's, there's definitely an
audience for it. The scoresaren't great, but neither
necessarily for all of hisfilms. But so it's okay. I'm
not, I'm not upset that Iwatched it because it still had
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enough moments and there'senough fun stuff in it to make
it worth watching. FrankieFreako, did this look like it
had a bigger budget than psychoGorman? No kind of look like it
might add a smaller budget,almost, because I always want to
see these guys that get a littlebit of success in this, you
know, just continually build upuntil fucking Gareth Edwards is
doing a new Godzilla movie.
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I mean, it's hard to tellbecause it's limited in scope.
It's a lot smaller movie thanGorman was, because it's almost
all in this guy's house, so hemight have had more money to
spend on his the creatures lookpretty good. Okay, so, okay,
would you call it a CreatureFeature? Oh, yeah. Oh, okay,
very much. So I'll check thatout.
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All right. Well, why don't wetake a little break, guys, and
then when we come back, we'regoing to be talking about the
lovely and beautiful TonyCollette, and the night
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has come, and the land is darkand the moon is the only light
We'll see.
No, I won't be afraid. No, Iwon't won't be afraid just as
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long as you stand stand by me.
So darling, darling, standby me. Oh. Stand by Me.
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If the sky we look upon shouldtumble and fall or the mountains
should crumble to the sea,I won't
cry. I won't cry. No, I won'tshed a tear,
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just as long as you stand standby me. So darling,
darling, stand by me, oh, standby me.
Stand By Me, stand by me.
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Stand by Me.
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We are back. Hey, Eric, this wasyour sub genre pick. Remind us
who we're talking about. Okay.
Today we'll be discussing TonyColette. Amazing. So amazing.
Wow, so good.
She's fine,yeah, never seen anything. She's
interesting.
She was born November 1, 1972Oh, a little younger than us,
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significantly older thanyou only, yeah, yeah, okay,
significantly started out. She'sa Australian. She's also a
singer and song composer. Whatstarted off in television,
independent films, of course.
And she's done Golden GlobeAwards, prime time. Emmy Awards,
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five AACTA Awards, with anomination for an Academy Award.
She's been awarded, and she hasa Tony Award. She has won a Tony
so she's on the border of anEGOT, but few to go, She's the
eldest of three to three kidswith both all women, all girls
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raised in Sydney suburb tillabout six, when they moved to
New South Wales area. Father wasa truck driver, mother was a
customer service representative.
Did not say for what company,but
later learned on an episode ofGame show called Who do you
think you are that her dad waspossibly born as a result of his
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mother having an affair, oh,with a Navy Petty Officer during
the World War Two, and to thisday does not know for sure. Oh,
my God, grandfather,grandmother. Whoa. Like Well,
hey, welcome to this game show.
Her career kind of kicked off in1988 when she appeared in burger
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brain, the fast food musical Wowwith Sydney Bob Evans calling
it, she sings like a dream. Madeher television debut that same
year on avariety show called blah blah
blah as a singer, and Her firstacting was in 1990 on a show
called Tracy.
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And 92 made a feature, featurefilm debut in the ensemble
comedy Spotswood, known as theUS as the efficiency, which I
don't know either of these,but that started Anthony Hopkins
and a virtually unknown RussellCrowe.
Andlet's see, Muriel's Wedding was
kind of the one that really puther on the map. And she did a
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fair amount of jobs for andthen, of course, six cents,
which was her Oscar nominationand cemented her career and
talent, and hasgone on to do just a crap ton of
stuff. I mean, not just movies,but television and Broadway and
just all kinds of work. So cool,busy worker,
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well, all right, you want to gofirst then Eric, alright, I'm
putting five minutes on thestrange eons radio buzzer, yeah,
I will be going with one of herI guess it's not that recent,
but more recent films from 2019velvet buzz saw.
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Critique is so limiting andemotionally draining,
I am hoping you find somethingto explain what's happening.
Which one's better? One or twobetter, worse. No different.
No different.
I'm quite curious to know Ethan,I think sober hasn't been good
for him. Pierce was in the fullbloom of alcoholism here.
(28:44):
Exactly never should have quitdrinking,
no originality, no courage,my opinion, I can't save you. I
found something who did thesemesmerics. Guy upstairs, he
died, and you just took them. Hehad my family or friends. I can
make you rich.
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It's brilliant. Demand haspeople ready to kill? Have you
ever put in Arsenal D's, no, notin our records, and we have
everyonethe artist used blood to create
the reddish blocks. You evernotice anything about this
painting. Look at it long enoughit moves.
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As I research these I'm startingto think there's a disgust for
the world of money. Wespent decades in a psychiatric
hospital for the criminallyinsane. I
there is some sort of power,some spirit, it's
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connected to his art. He.
Something truly God damn strangeis going on.
This is a slaughter house.
Are you aware that these askthat all his art be destroyed?
Get rid of it. Boxingoff, I can't save you.
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People thought she was part ofan exhibit. Music. We're
trending on Instagram. It's amajor hit.
I remember when this popped up.
It was kind of one of thoseeverybody talking about it
movies for a little while,although I know we don't always
do rotten but this one amusedme. Some reviewers, 61%
audience, 36 Yeah. Wow. This iscurrently available in Netflix,
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directed by Dan Gilroy, who alsodirected the mind boggling
combination of Nightcrawler andKong Skull Island.
Written by Dan Gilroy, starringTony Colette, who's currently in
theI think it's opened juror number
two,knives out. And movie I heartily
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recommend if you haven't seenand you want a good feel movie.
Hearts beat loud.
Phenomenal film, also starringJake Gyllenhaal, who's in
Nightcrawler and enemy, fairlyrecently talked about by me and
Donnie Darko, also ReneeRousseau, who's also a
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Nightcrawler. Thor movies, andthe wonderful guest shorty,
great artistic kind of openingcredits with this, with the
art being used to layeverybody's out, kind of like
that sets up the movie fairlywell.
Got to say, right off the bat,Jake Gyllenhaal is awesome at
being an asshole. Critic, Ibelieve it. He is a phenomenal
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performer because he's playing acomplete dick, but you still
kind of go with him, yeah, youknow, and it's, and that's his
beginning for the movie.
This was a hard one to writedescriptions about. It's a
fairly unusual film, but I dolike this. My one of my favorite
sayings in this was,everything's been done and
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nothing is new. So it's like avery
late 80s, early 90s feel to alot of what's going on in this
film, but it was recent enoughdone that the artists or the
owners of the galleries weretalking about a logarithms to
help sell their stuff.
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There's an undiscovered artistis found dead in his
the hallway of the apartmentbuilding where one of the
aspiring art agents lives, andshe basically steals all of his
art and starts to sell itbecause it's dark, disturbing.
It's really good. It's actuallyincredibly well done art,
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but it's haunted. Yeah, theartist had in his will that all
his work should be destroyedupon his death, but obviously
she made sure that didn'thappen. So as the movie goes on,
people start dying and some veryinteresting ways. Now, full
disclosure, Tony Collette is notin this very much,
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but when she is in it, she is,of course, very good. She plays
the owner of a competing gallerywith Renee Rousseau. So it's a
lot of that battle of betweenthe two of them and her and the
art critics.
There's a storyline whereGyllenhaal gives an art critique
so bad that this guy ends uplike getting in a car wreck. I
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can't remember if he dies orgets arrested, but just kind of
ruins the guy's life becauseit's the ex of the woman he's
dating, Jesus.
So to I was really curious aboutthe art, as I always am in
movies that featured art. Youknow, listen this long time, I
love movies that deal with thedark side of artistic creation,
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and this certainly is that thecompany hired art advisor David
Hundley, who worked with digitalartist Saxon Brice, to
conceptualize the works, andthen Alexander pavnov actually
painted them. These are allreal, painted, created art
pieces featured in the film,which is good because they need
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to be if they tried to doanything digitally, it would
look really weird. It looselyresembles the life of Henry
Darger, who was a recluse thatcreated an enormous volume of
artistic work, which was.
Not celebrated until he died,and spent time in an asylum
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while he was alive. Oh, wow.
He's largely known as an outsideartist, which is kind of what
this movie is about.
Let's see real quick here.
Dan's ultimate goal in makingthis movie is kind of like, I
hope people look at art in aslightly different way. Uh, look
at a piece of music, look at asculpture, a painting, a film.
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We realize the artists behindthat have invested what I
believe to their creative soulinto the work.
To me, it's a bit of a sacredthing, and I think we've lost
that a little bit, maybe even alittle more now I and all that,
I would love to return to that.
So that's kind of what thismovie is about. And this one, I
definitely fall on the criticsside. I really thought this was
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an interesting film. It has it'snot a great movie, but it's an
interesting movie.
So Have either of you seen this?
Or, yeah, no, I have not. AndI'd spent on my list for a long
time, I didn't realize that ithad those kind of horror
elements to it. Yeah, that'sweird, haunted. Wow, killings,
that's Alex. Killing is quiteelaborate. Yeah. I was
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ultimately very disappointed bythis, because I wanted it to go
in a different direction, sure,but I thought the performances
were all really nice, and Ithought the art was really cool.
I think that's why I was mostlydisappointed, was I was like,
Oh, I love all of the elementsof this. I just want the story
to be a little darker and alittle more
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supernatural at the end,gruesome the that was, that was
part of the downfall for me, alittle bit. I mean, I enjoyed
it, but the the theghost element seemed like, like
one interview I read with theguys like you wanted, oh, what a
neat idea for a horror movie.
Then he kind of forgot, and didhis art critics suck, kind of
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movie a little bit more, and thehaunted was just an element for
only a handful of scenes, yeah.
But the the idea of the way theart world is, and growing up
with a mama worked in galleriesand worked in things, it's it
hits me in the right area. Sothat aspect I liked, but yeah,
it's definitely lacking a lot inthe horror department. Yeah,
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Vanessa, you want to go next?
Yeah, absolutely. We'll give youfive minutes. All right. Well, I
went with the 2000 film shaft.
Where remember me, read my mind.
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Who delivers 10 times out of 10?
Who's the cat that won't copout? Cherry Ray,
I might take you down,but I'll never let you down.
Now, what's my name? Shaft,You're damn right.
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You are gone from this precinctfor what
I'm done. I'm getting my own wayin a system where money can buy
you freedom. What about thewaitress? The waitress, she saw
it, huh? So what'd you do?
Threatened the next day. I juststarted running. I've been
running ever since in a citywhere fear can buy you power, I
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need someone located. That'sgonna cause you
only one man will stand up forjustice. You ain't even a pig no
more. You think that makes meless dangerous or more
dangerous?
You're too hot, man, you got tostep off bit.
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Got milk right on his ass,his mind. You know, something
happens trying to come after youmyself. You won't have to
something happens to her. Ithappens to me any questions,
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which I do not know a lot aboutshaft, so I feel like it was a
bit of an education for me.
That's what I hear. Joel mouth,this had a budget of $46
million and box office of 107directed by John Singleton, who
has 19 credits, but mostnotably, Boys in the Hood,
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starring Samuel L Jackson.
In 211 credits. We've talkedabout him before. If you don't
know who he is, I don't knowwhat to tell you.
Tony Colette, 96 credits. We'vebeen talking about her, but she
was also a nightmare alley.
Hereditary Muriel's Wedding,which I still haven't seen.
This one also has VanessaWilliams, is this returning,
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returning member to the show,114 credits, including Ugly
Betty Pocahontas, eraser,Desperate Housewives and a fair
amount of animated stuff. Andthe one who owns my name,
Christian Bale, Jeffrey Wrightfrom American fiction last year,
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Dan hidea Busta Rhymes, RichardRoundtree, so has so, yeah, so
Andre Royo, Isaac Hayes, JohnSingleton, and Elizabeth Banks
is a background artist in oneshot where she just smiles at
everything everyone says,including the racist things and
the cool black guy things. So Idon't know which group she was
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with, but she smiled a lot. Iwas like, That's fucking
Elizabeth. Thanks.
The story follows shaft. Who isthe nephew of the original
shaft? So it's more of a sequelis called to a crime scene where
a black guy has been bludgeonedwith a red carpet, red carpet,
rope pole, and is basicallybeing resuscitated by the
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emergency services, where hethen dies.
Shaft, goes to a theater toquestion people and finds one
man, Christian Vale, with bloodon his hands, as well as a
waitress who has some blood onher chin. Shaft questions the
waitress, who won't talk, butshe does point out the man
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Walter Wade Jr, as beingresponsible. He finds out from
the girlfriend of the guy whojust got bludgeoned that Walter
Wade Jr, of the famous Wadefamily, made a ton of racist
remarks at her boyfriend beforethe two had an altercation
outside, but there were no otherwitnesses as to what happened.
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Of course, Wade is now taken infor homicide, and after being
set a bail, he escapes toSwitzerland for two years. He
returns, but shaft does aarresting
which seems like, oh yeah, hedid this really clever thing,
but maybe that's exactly whatWalter Wade wanted him to do,
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and he's got his whole defenseset up ahead. The only missing
piece is the waitress whodoesn't want to be found, and no
one seems to be able to findher. To make matters worse,
people's Hernandez, A notorious,dominical
Dominican drug lord that shaftbasically gives a hard time,
teams up with Walter to help himfind the waitress and kill her,
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so the trial will go in hisfavor. Shaft must find the
waitress, save the waitress,fight against Walter the
Dominicans and some dirty copswith a small group of cool ass
friends to set things right.
This film was way better than Ithought it would be. It was
super fun. It feels like aMission Impossible movie or just
some kind of great action film.
It really doesn't even need tobe a shaft movie. Has really
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good writing, great pace, funcharacters and a ton of
underrated actors who, at thetime, of course, were a bunch of
black actors who were notgetting cast, but would go on to
do incredibly awesome shit.
It starts the credits with anipple in there. And I was
really worried, because I cannotimagine Samuel L Jackson being a
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sex symbol and having to watchhim do a bunch of chips.
Luckily, that's mostlydownplayed. He clerks a lot, but
I did not have to watch him banganybody, and I'm grateful for
that. Why Jeffrey Wright isplaying a Dominican man? I don't
know it's weird, but he does agreat fucking job. Oh, holy
shit. He's so much fun. IThis show has a killer fucking
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ending. And yeah, I just, Ireally, really enjoyed it. I
only have a little bit oftrivia. John Singleton planned a
sequel where shaft battles druglords in Jamaica, but the film's
mediocre box office returns, andSamuel L Jackson's
disappointment with the filmstopped any plans for a sequel.
According to an interview withChristian Bale, one of the main
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reasons he took this role wasbecause of a fight scene between
Walter Wade, JR And shaft at anairport runway. The scene was
filmed but then cut to make moreroom for scenes with Jeffrey
Wright, who scored higher withpreview audiences, which it
should, because it wasincredible. Will Smith was
considered for the role ofshaft. This was the first
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collaboration between Samuel LJackson and Tony Collette, who
would later work together onchanging lanes and Triple X
Return of Xander Cage. It isavailable on paramount.
I've never seen this. Oh, youhaven't. It's.
A fun movie. I don't like youmade a great statement. I'm not
sure why it was a shaft film,yeah, per se, except for to use
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the music, yeah,because it's really very
different from, have you seenthe original show? I have not.
Yeah. It's very different. Ibelieve it a lot more violent, a
lot more sex. It's, very good,yeah, but it's, yeah, I like
both of them, but they arereally different films. I will
have to check this out. I justpassed on this because it got
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pretty bad reviews. It wasweirdly fun. And just watching
people act circles around was Idon't I just, I had such a good
time. It was really, reallyenjoyable. It is definitely
not quite but pushing the we'regoing to be over acting, but,
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oh, but it works. So it works.
It's just a fun, yeah, it's justa fun setup, a fun story. And,
yeah, exactly like, I don't knowwhy it's a shaft movie
necessarily, other than just ashortcut the way that he will
proceed and like, be a copwithout the rules and that kind
of stuff. Jeffrey Wright musthave been a baby in this movie.
He is so young. He's so young. Ididn't realize he'd been acting
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all that time. I know. I know.
Well, I started looking throughHis credits, and I was like, I
had no idea he was in the thingshe was in. He was just
chameleoning his way through agreat career. He was born in 65
and that's old,okay. Well, I'm gonna go last.
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Give myself five minutes to talkabout a little known film called
The Sixth Sense.
No, the accident up there. Yeah,somewhere. Got her. They did a
lady, she broke her neck. Oh, myGod, but you can see her. Yes.
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Where is she? I standing next tomy window. You
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Baby, worry, shaking,Cole, what's wrong? Did you ever
talk to your mom about howthings are? I don't tell her
things. Why not? Because shedoesn't look at me like
everybody else. And I don't wanther to I don't want her to know,
know what I see deadpeople walking around like
regular people. I don't seeanything. Are you sure they're
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there?
Sometimes you feel it insidelike you're falling down real
fast. You ever feel the pricklythings on the back of your neck?
Yes, that's them.
They get mad. They get cold. Howoften do you see them? All Time.
They're everywhere.
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They want me to do things forthem.
I think that they know thatyou're one of these very rare
people who can see them. So youneed to help them.
What if they don't want to helpI don't think that's the way it
works. I need help for sure.
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Is anyone there?
Look it up. Please, make themplease. I'm working on it
from 1999 you guys ever heard ofthis one? Really good,
(49:00):
written and directed by M NightShyamalan, who has 19 credits,
uh, writing credits, uh,including praying with anger,
wide awake. Stuart Little, andhe directed the happening old
and The Last Airbender. You'repicking out some of the hits
there I see,starring Bruce Willis. 148
credits, including the detectivenight trilogy, fortress and
(49:23):
fortress colon snipers, eye aday to die, which seems like a
blatant title rip off of a GoodDay to Die Hard. It's a
different movie.
Also in this is Haley JoelOsment, who has 128 credits,
including tons of voice overwork. He was Forrest Gump Junior
(49:44):
in Forrest Gump, and he's beenin Pay It Forward in AI
Artificial Intelligence. And thelovely Tony Collette, who has 96
credits, including Connie andCarla, Mary and Max and Diana
and me, who.
Cool also in this movie isOlivia Williams, Donnie Wahlberg
and Misha Barton.
(50:06):
So we open on a scene where DrMalcolm Crowe, prominent child
psychologist, returns home onenight with his wife, Anna, from
an event in which he was honoredfor his work. Very quickly, the
two discover they are not alone.
A young man has appeared holdinga gun. Malcolm recognizes him as
a former patient whom he treatedas a child for hallucinations,
and the man shoots Malcolm inthe stomach and then turns the
gun on himself. We fade out andfade back in about a year later,
(50:29):
and Malcolm begins working withanother young boy, nine year
old, Cole Sear. Cole isexperiencing hallucinations
similar to Malcolm's patientthat shot him, and we soon
realize that there is somethingin Malcolm that is drawing him
to the boy he feels like if hecan help Cole get better, that
might relieve himself of theguilt he feels over failing his
other patient.
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But Cole is pretty difficult toreach, and although it seems
that he and his mom, TonyCollette, have a very loving
relationship, Malcolm isstarting to wonder if she is
maybe abusing him. See, Colekeeps showing up with bruises on
his body, and it seems veryclear that he's hurt and scared
of something.
Well, pretty soon, Malcolm andCole have built up a pretty
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trusting relationship, and hispatient reveals to him that he
sees dead people in a scene thatstill managed to raise the hair
on my arm, because this littleboy is so fucking phenomenal as
an actor that you really believethe torment he is going through
when you close your eyes.
Malcolm asks, lying on theground, nope, says Cole, walking
around like regular people. Theydon't know that they're dead. So
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Malcolm leaves that meeting verydisturbed. He's sure that Cole
is delusional and worried. He ishaving a psychotic break, but
then he goes through somerecordings of his old patient
and starts thinking that notonly is Cole telling the truth,
but maybe the patient that hehad failed also had this ability
and it drove him to suicide.
This happens shockingly late inthe story, like at the end of
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the second act, and it is aweird scene that doesn't really
work in the traditionaltransition into a third act. But
Malcolm goes back to Cole andtells him that he thinks the
reason that these dead peopleare so drawn to him is that they
know he can see them and theyneed his help, which sets Cole
on his way to hopefully beingable to deal with his ability.
Man, what a fucking movie. Ihave probably seen this a half
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dozen times, but certainly notin the last 20 years. So it was
a shock to me to revisit this,not only how good Bruce is,
because, I mean, this was hiscomeback film, and he fucking
killed it, and his chemistrywith Haley Joel Osment is
something to behold, a reallybeautiful relationship, yeah.
But also, you guys, know, I havea bit of a crush on Tony
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Colette, and this is the movie,why she is so damn beautiful in
this movie, in a verybelievable, you know person you
meet in your apartment complexkind of way. And I just thought
she was gorgeous, and I fell inlove with her all over again.
Tagline, I see dead people. Weall know this
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trivia. Toni Collette has saidthat she was so moved by the
emotional resonance of the storywhile filming, she did not
realize it was a horror filmuntil after it's released.
David Vogel, then president ofproduction of Walt Disney
Studios, read M Night Shyamalanspec script and instantly loved
it without obtaining corporateapproval, Vogel bought the
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rights to the script despite thehigh price of $3 million and the
stipulation that xianlong directthe film Wow, the role
of Malcolm Crowe was writtenwith Bruce Willis in mind.
This was the first of two moviesthat Bruce Willis owed Disney
after he caused anotherproduction after Bruce caused
another production, the Broadwaybrawler, to be shut down due to
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him firing the director. He waspaid ten million to this movie,
half of his usual salary at thetime. He made a reported $100
million off the film when it wasall said and done,
the the scene with Colette andthe kid in the car at the end.
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That's the same devastation sheread for and
when she read that scene, shewas like, I want this movie so
fucking badthere. I haven't seen it in
years. There are scenes from it,and that's one that just sits in
my head, just really, yeah, it'slike real estate that's been
taken out by this movie. Everytime you close your eyes and
(54:23):
imagine it's like, oh yeah. Iremember being in the tent with
the little girl and yeah,there's just yeah, this was one
of those movies. I mean, look,we're gonna talk about a 25 year
old movie, so don't tell me, Oh,I was gonna watch that tonight.
If you're worried aboutspoiling, turn off. Now, come
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back and listen to the finallike, I don't know, 10 or 15
minutes of the show after you'vewatched it. So re watching it
again, you know. And now we allknow the twist that Bruce is
dead,just the masterful way that it
is shot to.
Ever show him talking to the momor even approaching the house or
the school or anything likethat, he just is wherever he
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needs to be to talk to Cole. AndCole always comes into the scene
a little late, so it looks likehis doctor is waiting for him or
something like that. And it justall works so beautifully that I
was like, God, this isjust a a brilliant piece of
filmmaking and to pull in. Andit's just a small bit, like,
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when the movie first starts.
Like, is that Donnie Wahlberg?
And, oh, my God, he is. Yeah.
Well, everybody's amazing.
There's, there's just not a realstrong sour note in the film, I
had forgotten that the the twistpoint for Bruce is him going
back through his recordings, andDonnie Wahlberg's kid character
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was seeing dead people I hadforgotten. Did not remember
that. That was the thing thatmade him go, Wait a second. I
have a patient who was sayingthe same things and then killed
himself. So I feel like I needto, you know, really pay
attention to this other boy. Sothat was another layer that I
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was like, oh, that's just areally nice little bit of
writing there that makes BruceWillis's character very
believable. Wow. So I reallywant to re watch this movie,
because it has been a minutesince I've seen it, and it's
hard, because when films have abig reveal at the end, I often
will write them off and be like,I don't need to see this and
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just have big, big old twist.
But I really feel like it wouldbe such a fun one to look at.
Yeah. I think your your pointabout re watching it, knowing,
but watching for what Bruce isdoing or what is happening in
those scenes, like when Bruceand Tony were sitting in the
chairs, yeah? And she feelslike, Oh, they're talking. She's
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not looking at him at all. He'slooking at her and she's looking
down. And it's a shot that's farenough away that on first
glance, you're going to be likethey've been talking about her
son. Yeah,it's movies a little frustrating
too, in one respect, like, Idon't know, maybe it was a weird
ego explosion, but how you makea movie this brilliant and go on
to, I mean, not just make badmovies to make some truly awful
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films. Well, I know you agreewith me that his next film is
his best film, which isunbreakable, unbreakable,
phenomenal. Yeah, that one'sreally but I think that that one
was not as not appreciated asmuch, but it did then set a
precedent. So there's a bigtwist of the Sixth Sense, and
there's a big twist andunbreakable and I think that he
was kind of then like, oh, fuck,every movie has to have a big
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twist. That's what I'm known fornow, trapped himself, which is
too bad, because the talentdisplay in these first two
films, it's just phenomenal.
Yeah, really something else. Iremember sitting in the theater
with my girlfriend at the time,and we're watching this, and
there's a scene at the end wherehe is talking to Cole after he's
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seen him in his play, and Colesays, I'm not going to see you
anymore. And Bruce says, Yeah, Ithink that you're going to be
okay. And I leaned over to mygirlfriend, I was like, I think
that he's dead. And she waslike, and then when it gets
revealed, she looks at me, shegoes, fuck.
Why did you have to sayanything? I just it just hit me.
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So good.
Yeah. What a great movie. I wasjust engrossed in a movie I've
seen many times before, butrevisiting it. You know, 20
years later, was something elseon a completely unrelated note,
the 4k copy of trap arrived inmy house.
You bought the 4k version oftrap, huh? Look, man, when
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something just grabs hold youthat well. Josh Hartnett, Oh,
beautiful. Well, Vanessa, youmake too much money.
So Well, you know, I orderedseverance new blood Island
series. So I'm not gonna haveanything to talk about. Yeah, I
(59:25):
did stop going to vinegarsyndrome, full stop. So the last
thing I ordered from themwas the keep I think I have
ordered there. They've got somany partner labels now it's
hard to sift through, and I'mlike,
what you got going on? Yeah, Ialso stopped buying comics. I
(59:45):
just get stuff from the libraryat this point because I have
such a backlog. Yeah, we alllove what we love. Money is
actually a little tight thismonth, and I still did the pre
order on the Micronauts, superseven, of course, beautiful.
Okay, that's accurate. Okay. Sonormally, Vanessa, this would be
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your pick for the next one, butwe are running a little late on
this, and it is time for us todo our countdown of our favorite
films of 2024,so that's what we will be doing
next week, I'd say I we'veusually done these late, and I
appreciate that. I get soannoyed at the end of Best of
December 1, still another monthago, and a whole lot of really
good movies on DecemberNosferatu, for one. Yeah, you
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that.
We are busting into Februaryhere very shortly, and the year
is going by quickly. I wasreminded that, you know,
cryptocon is only a couplemonths away now, and you just
(01:09):
did something screening, right,that had crypto logo on it.
Yeah, good old Steve Lang, theguy who handles the guest for
crypto town, Seattle, puttogether a little screening of
sleepaway camp with Felicia rosecoming up and doing live
(01:32):
commentary during the movie. IsSteve throwing in this couple
wonderful one liners during theevent, because, you know,
Steve's a pretty funny guy,Canadian and the so I,
he asked if I could help out.
Sure, I'll help. Like, okay,you're gonna sit with her and
take the money for theautographs. Like, I've never
(01:53):
done that before. But okay,luckily, she is a wonderful
person, very sweet. I wasreminded of when we saw Clive
Barker all those years ago.
Yeah, because the the line wasreally slow moving, just like
Barker's. But nobody cared,because you could see that he
was spending great time witheveryone. It wasn't like he was
(02:16):
paying a whole lot of attentionto that one person, then
ignoring everyone. And she didthe same thing, neat, and she
was just a joy, and pointed outthings in the movie I'd never
known, like a replacement actorthat shows up at one point, and
a few things like that.
Like the lady that goes over inthe canoe goes upside down, is
one woman, but when they pullher out of the water after
(02:39):
rescuing her from the canoe withsomebody else.
There's a lot of accidents onthis lake. Yeah, there's not a
lot, not a lot of money in thatmovie. But it was a great
experience, and it was sold outshow. Oh, good. So I'm hoping
Steve will do this again withsomeone and just was a lot of
fun. Well done, Steve. Yeah, ifyou're local, cryptocon has been
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doing stuff like this allthrough the year. So the
festival, the convention,happens in May, but then
throughout the rest of the year,they're sponsoring stuff like
this. And so you should reallybe on the cryptom page or on
Eric's page, because I know youpromote the heck out of all that
stuff too, and look for thesereally neat opportunities.
(03:20):
Okay, guys, I have seen somecool stuff. Oh, good. First one
I'm going to talk about is amovie on shutter called the
primevals. The primevals.
This is a funky movie that justcame out. It says 2024 on it. I
saw the trailer for it, and itsaid coming in, 2024 and I was
(03:41):
watching this movie, and I waslike, this is definitely not
from 2024 the hairstyles looklike the early 90s, and the stop
motion looks like the 60s. Andit just looked like a lot of
fun. So I watched it came onshutter, and it is a
it's a full moon andbut it was originally supposed
(04:04):
to be an empire film, because itfilmed in 88
and all the stop motion stuff isthe stop motion students who
were making this film back then,or actually it was a big stop
motion effects guy that wasmaking the film back then, who
died, and the film basically gotshelved. And then through some
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kind of Kickstarter, theybrought in these stop motion
students to finish the effectsand use the footage they had
shot. And then, you know, addedsome stuff from like last year
to make this really neat movieabout yetis. Oh, okay, and I
know what you're talking aboutnow, okay, and it is available
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on shutter for free now, and itis so much fun. It is really a
neat little movie, is it? Youknow, a great movie? No, but it
is very serviceable in thestory.
The acting and all that, andit's just a ton of fun. And the
back story is really, reallycool. So finally, decided to sit
down and watch it. And I was notdisappointed. Full Moon is new
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stuff, real rough, so it's neatto see them doing something like
that. Let's figure out some wayto do something interesting. The
only way they did this isbecause they had this footage
back when it was empire.
That's very cool, but it is onshutter now, so I would say,
check that out the Prime Evils.
Wow, very cool.
Well, I finally watched a artwork movie as well that was
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recommended to me by Kelly. Isaw wild robot. Oh, the wild
robot. Yeah. How many times didyou cry?
Probably, I definitely teared upa number of times. I don't know
if I was like, bawling at anypoint, but it was, it was so
sweet, so good. Yeah, I really,I really love that. And now I
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know what you're saying about,like, it's not just about like
parenthood or motherhood, butalso about like being a shit kid
to your parent. But no, it was.
It was just a great film. I knowwhy. Like, it's on a lot of
people's favorite lists for theyear, and, yeah, I don't just
loved it. Very cool. Did youwatch it with the child? No, she
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was asleep. She's asleepsomewhere. Why would I watch a
cartoon with her?
She's not as interested. I can,yeah, I can only get her to
really get into Miss Rachel andbluey right now. So, yeah, yeah.
Well, it is an amazing movie.
Probably going to be on my topfive too.
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Did you rent it? Did you buy it?
It was an Amazon purchase. But Ithink I'll get a actual physical
version. They have a one ofthose big the art of the wild
robot books that has all theproduction sketches. I might
have to pick that up. Yeah,yeah. It definitely feels like
beautiful. Yeah? No, it had alot of, like, great details and,
like, just really making thatwhole island come alive, and
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just every little section of itjust really neat. They did such
a good job. Yeah, and then justevery 10 minutes, I was like,
Oh, this is a this is wherethey're gonna end it. Oh, no,
there's a forest fire.
Oh, cool. Okay, we're stillgoing. I'm fine. Yeah, I
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mentioned this one to Dina, andshe's like, I don't think I want
to watch that one. Let me end upwatching
without her, but not quite readyfor the mom stories of pie.
Emotion. Totally understandable,totally understandable. Well, I
finally bit the bullet and gaveup my illusion of hoping you
would show up in theatersrandomly for some reason, but
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and watched dune two. Oh,I fucking loved it. Yeah, it
maintained everything that Iliked in the first one, and then
just amped everything up withthe the action and the war going
on and all this stuff alongthose lines.
The I still have a hard timepronouncing Harkonnen the way
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they do, just because I watchedLynch's doing for so long.
But thedevelopment of the Harkins and
what they are, and the fact thatthey introduced stuff about
politrades That was sort ofglossed over in other versions,
was neat.
The sand worms, I so wish I'dseen that. If that comes back,
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if sift does some kind of ayeah, see dune one and two. Oh,
okay, yeah, because those are,those are, those are amazingly
large, well donefor on screen dynamics, as I
call shit. But yeah, no, Ithought it was great. Yeah,
that, I think if you get achance, for sure, because that
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whole last third of the movie isso stellar in theaters. And
yeah, there was one weird thingthat pulled me out a little bit
hiring Christopher Walken to bethe Emperor. A lot of people
found that, because as soon asyou hear His voice, it's just
all the other characters are arelost in the people they are in
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the movie Sendai is maybe alittle bit less so, but
boy. Christopher Walken. It'sChristopher Walken, doesn't
matter what movie he is in. Ithink it helped me a lot that
he's like, pretty old now, and Ithink that allowed my brain to
be like he's he's sort of amuted version of what once he
could be. Oddly, when I couldsee him and hear him, it was
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less thing. But when his voicecame out and it was like, oh
shit, walking, but yeah, like,Okay, same man. Love this. Love
this series, this, I can't waitto see what he does with the
third one. Yeah.
Guess is some kind of preproduction already. Yeah,
amazing, cool. Not my thing, butI'm glad that you're loving it.
(10:08):
Did you end up seeing this likeEllen? No, okay, based on how
much I dislike,no, you don't remember the what
two month saga? Do Ido? Not was it Charlemagne? Was
that a big part of it? That wasa big part of it? Yeah, I can
understand that.
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Not attractive, but aninteresting guy. I think he's
very attractive. See, he'sanother one. He's a girl.
There's like, three or four ofthose guys, and he's another one
with that look. I read somethingsomewhere the new look of
Hollywood. It's all these kindof twixy, creepy snake like
(10:50):
looking guys. I mean, Adamdriver has, I mean same, and
even Benedict Cumberbatch, like,they're not like, when you first
look at these humans, it's like,Huh?
And then, like, their acting isso good, you do start to come
around and like, I definitelylove Adam Driver now. But
initially I was like, why isyeah, he goofy everywhere. He's
(11:14):
a goofy looking dude. It's the,as the kids say, and age myself
horribly there. It's the Riz.
Those guys have term forcharisma. Oh, sure, I feel very
old right now.
This is the thing I wascomplaining about with the new
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Salem's Lot. Is that we haveevolved as a species, just in 50
years, we look a lot differentthan we used to. And so watching
These Kids in, you know, kids,adults who look like kids in a
period piece, I'm like, okay,that actor is playing a 30 year
old. And he probably is 30 yearsold, but he looks 18. So yeah,
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like the things that pop up inFacebook or whatever. Every once
in a while, it's like the agesof the Golden Girls when you're
watching iton that kind of sounds like,
Hold on What I'm both now olderthan fish. It's weird, and he
still looks 20 years older.
I had a moment where I had toexplain, like an over the hill
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birthday party to a friend ofmine. I was like, no, no. I
remember back in the day, whenyou turned 40, there were black
balloons all over people, yeah?
People would like, it was like afuneral birthday party mix. And
now we're like, ah, 40 is fine,yeah? So, yeah, 70s, the new 60.
Good Lord, living with an 83year old guy, you might have a
(12:43):
point.
Okay, I saw something reallyfun. So a couple weeks ago I
talked about the yacht rockdocumentary, which was based on
a YouTube series from the early2000s called yacht rock, where
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these guys would put togetheractors, not actors their
friends, put fake beards andmustaches on them, and they
would play Michael McDonald andKenny Loggins. And they would
make these very funny, likeskits of how these guys would
meet and everything. I decidedto sit down and watch all 15
episodes, which is very easybecause they're about they're
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anywhere from 10 to 20 minuteslong each episode,
and it is hilarious. I don'tknow how I missed this back
then, but they deserve all thecredit they've been getting, and
they reallythey knew their music history,
and they have a good sense ofhumor, so they were able to
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twist things and make themfunny. If you know what they're
talking about, you're like, Ohmy God, that's not how it
happened. But that's amazingthat you would say that's how it
happened,and a lot of very, very funny
things and a lot of really neatlittle insights that I don't
know a lot of people know about.
(14:05):
You know that, like MichaelMcDonald wrote the lyrics for
hallway for Van Halen. And sothere's a little minute there
where he's sitting there withVan Halen, you know, a bunch of
guys and long hair, and DavidLee Roth just being an asshole,
insufferable, and all thisstuff. And so I just really,
really appreciated this littleweb series from 2005 actually,
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it's like from 2005 to 2008 soWow, 15 episodes in three years,
and it is zero budget, sure. Andjust, very literally, just
friends with their cameras. Yes,that's cool. Yeah, check that
out. Very funny. You would loveit a lot. Eric, I watched a kind
of a reaction video, I guesshe'd say the yacht rock, you
know, Rick piano, the music guywho does YouTube stuff and talks
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a lot. He's an older guy whodoes music training and talks
about music. His reaction waskind of funny, because he really
hates the term.
Yacht rock.
And it's almost like, but didyou watch?
Did you see that? They, theykind of also hate the term yacht
rock. In the movie, youget the people who overdo it and
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do the live show dressed allthis, yeah, guys and stuff, but,
but he was talking about that'snot that's like rock and roll.
I'm going now you're a littleolder than me. I can tell,
because by the time I wasdiscovering that music that was,
like the Adult Contemporary,easy list, it was soft rock,
yeah, it was losing its glamorin the world when it was in the
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70s. Yeah, yeah. Boston and theyacht rock kind of guys, not
like Boston was the hot rock.
But you know what I mean, wherethe rock and roll, then they
weren't,but then they got rediscovered
and re appreciated by a strangeterm. So it's like, who cares?
They got re appreciaterediscovered. Mike McDonald can
now tour probably quitesuccessfully. Yeah, I told you I
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once sawtrain and REO Speedwagon, oh,
yeah, a couple months ago, andthe opening act was a, it was
called yacht rock review, and Iwas just in heaven, all right,
so they're really good. Yeah,they were amazing. And I was
like, Oh, this is, these guysare great. And they're just
playing hit after hit. You know,I can't argue with that. No.
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So anyway, that's on YouTube,just called yacht rock. Nice. I
have nothing to contribute here.
So speaking of awesome musicendeavors, so on New Year's Eve,
I ended up watching Matilda themusical because I'd heard that
it was really good, and I therewas nothing initially really
appealing about it to me, but Iwas like, ah, every so many
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people have said, This is greatthat I'm I'm gonna sit down and
check it out. It is like aperfect kids movie. Oh, cool. It
is so well done. It's wellacted, well danced, well sung.
And the art design is like ifyou took Wes Anderson's talent
and then scoped it into achild's imagination. Damn, it's
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so fucking cool. Like everyscene is how you would imagine
as a kid that would look liketheir their school when it feels
really oppressive and strange.
They've got like, chains hangingdown. Space is like cemented.
And then other times, you know,when things are fun, they've got
things painted all over thewalls, and there's, you know,
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flowers and stickers andwhatever like, it just is so
perfectly lived in. Plus, youjust get the benefits of it's a
really fun, well told story. Ilove the way they set things up.
They've got, oh, I'm forgettingher name now, who plays the
baddie?
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Gosh, sorry, Emma.
Holy crap. Go ahead, keeptalking. Oh, thank you. She does
such a good job. And she'salmost unrecognizable, frankly,
because you get so lost in theway that that she is playing
that character. Emma Thompson,yes, Emma Thompson, who plays
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this like big, gruff mountain ofa woman. But you just, she's
just doing it so convincingly.
But anyways, check it out. Ihave to say, if you want to feel
good for a day, check out thisfilm. It's awesome. I have a
weird they did the you've seenthe Rob Zombie, where they
insert Rob Zombie into the Ithink it's the one where they
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rebel and the dancing down thehalls and they topple the statue
at the end of that song that andthey inserted Rob,
the Rob Zombie, or White Zombiesong in there. And it's
fantastic. It works so well tothe kids singing and all this
stuff like. So I went and Iwatched just that scenes like,
(19:02):
what is this? Holy shit? Yeah,that looks really good. My
expectations were. I did not. Idon't know what I thought it was
gonna be, but it just blew mydang stocks off. So fun. What is
that on?
I think it's on prime. It's onsomething for free. Okay, cool.
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Matilda, the musical, allright, okay, well,
if you were a big fan of psychoGorman or, I guess maybe the
void,his new movie, Steven, whatever
his last name is, where'd it go?
I just had it. It was Netflix,by the way, Netflix for free.
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Oh, cool. Steven kotan ski has anew film out called Frankie
Freako. Oh, okay. I kind of wishI'd known it was him before,
because psycho Gorman didn'treally work for me. The style of
humor just didn't.
Click for me. I know a lot ofpeople love it, and I get that
because it what it does. It doeswell, it just doesn't work for
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me. Unfortunately, this is kindof the same kind of humor. The
idea is there's this workaholicguy, and this is where the movie
worked for me a lot. Is the themain character is this goofy guy
who's always doing the rightthing and never
perfectionist, weirdo orsomething, and calls a one 909
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of Ricky Franco, which allowsthese creatures to take over his
life. Oh, and it's fun. It'sreally fun for about 20 minutes.
And the Frankie Freakoretribution story ends nicely.
His ending, well, not, notFrankie Freako Connor the
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workaholic ends well, so that'snice. So the wrap up, but it's
just not my humor. I'd say, ifyou like psycho Gorman, though,
definitely, definitely checkthis out. It's on Prime right
now, butit showed up on a few lists of
best of horror. I guess it'skind of horror. It's more
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comedy. You know, I wonder howold this guy is. I guess he's
probably about 10 years youngerthan you and I, because
everybody I know who lovespsycho Gorman is about 10 years
younger than you and I, and grewup with a certain kind of, like,
Power Rangers, esthetic andstuff like that, that you and I
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missed. Yeah, yeah, I didn'thave. And it definitely has, it
has that. So, yeah, I'd saythere's, there's definitely an
audience for it. The scoresaren't great, but neither
necessarily for all of hisfilms. But so it's okay. I'm
not, I'm not upset that Iwatched it because it still had
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enough moments and there'senough fun stuff in it to make
it worth watching. FrankieFreako, did this look like it
had a bigger budget than psychoGorman? No kind of look like it
might add a smaller budget,almost, because I always want to
see these guys that get a littlebit of success in this, you
know, just continually build upuntil fucking Gareth Edwards is
doing a new Godzilla movie.
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I mean, it's hard to tellbecause it's limited in scope.
It's a lot smaller movie thanGorman was, because it's almost
all in this guy's house, so hemight have had more money to
spend on his the creatures lookpretty good. Okay, so, okay,
would you call it a CreatureFeature? Oh, yeah. Oh, okay,
very much. So I'll check thatout.
(22:41):
All right. Well, why don't wetake a little break, guys, and
then when we come back, we'regoing to be talking about the
lovely and beautiful TonyCollette, and the night
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has come, and the land is darkand the moon is the only light
We'll see.
No, I won't be afraid. No, Iwon't won't be afraid just as
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long as you stand stand by me.
So darling, darling, standby me. Oh. Stand by Me.
(23:45):
If the sky we look upon shouldtumble and fall or the mountains
should crumble to the sea,I won't
cry. I won't cry. No, I won'tshed a tear,
(24:09):
just as long as you stand standby me. So darling,
darling, stand by me, oh, standby me.
Stand By Me, stand by me.
(24:32):
Stand by Me.
(24:53):
We are back. Hey, Eric, this wasyour sub genre pick. Remind us
who we're talking about. Okay.
Today we'll be discussing TonyColette. Amazing. So amazing.
Wow, so good.
She's fine,yeah, never seen anything. She's
interesting.
She was born November 1, 1972Oh, a little younger than us,
(25:19):
significantly older thanyou only, yeah, yeah, okay,
significantly started out. She'sa Australian. She's also a
singer and song composer. Whatstarted off in television,
independent films, of course.
And she's done Golden GlobeAwards, prime time. Emmy Awards,
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five AACTA Awards, with anomination for an Academy Award.
She's been awarded, and she hasa Tony Award. She has won a Tony
so she's on the border of anEGOT, but few to go, She's the
eldest of three to three kidswith both all women, all girls
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raised in Sydney suburb tillabout six, when they moved to
New South Wales area. Father wasa truck driver, mother was a
customer service representative.
Did not say for what company,but
later learned on an episode ofGame show called Who do you
think you are that her dad waspossibly born as a result of his
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mother having an affair, oh,with a Navy Petty Officer during
the World War Two, and to thisday does not know for sure. Oh,
my God, grandfather,grandmother. Whoa. Like Well,
hey, welcome to this game show.
Her career kind of kicked off in1988 when she appeared in burger
(26:49):
brain, the fast food musical Wowwith Sydney Bob Evans calling
it, she sings like a dream. Madeher television debut that same
year on avariety show called blah blah
blah as a singer, and Her firstacting was in 1990 on a show
called Tracy.
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And 92 made a feature, featurefilm debut in the ensemble
comedy Spotswood, known as theUS as the efficiency, which I
don't know either of these,but that started Anthony Hopkins
and a virtually unknown RussellCrowe.
Andlet's see, Muriel's Wedding was
kind of the one that really puther on the map. And she did a
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fair amount of jobs for andthen, of course, six cents,
which was her Oscar nominationand cemented her career and
talent, and hasgone on to do just a crap ton of
stuff. I mean, not just movies,but television and Broadway and
just all kinds of work. So cool,busy worker,
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well, all right, you want to gofirst then Eric, alright, I'm
putting five minutes on thestrange eons radio buzzer, yeah,
I will be going with one of herI guess it's not that recent,
but more recent films from 2019velvet buzz saw.
(28:22):
Critique is so limiting andemotionally draining,
I am hoping you find somethingto explain what's happening.
Which one's better? One or twobetter, worse. No different.
No different.
I'm quite curious to know Ethan,I think sober hasn't been good
for him. Pierce was in the fullbloom of alcoholism here.
(28:44):
Exactly never should have quitdrinking,
no originality, no courage,my opinion, I can't save you. I
found something who did thesemesmerics. Guy upstairs, he
died, and you just took them. Hehad my family or friends. I can
make you rich.
(29:09):
It's brilliant. Demand haspeople ready to kill? Have you
ever put in Arsenal D's, no, notin our records, and we have
everyonethe artist used blood to create
the reddish blocks. You evernotice anything about this
painting. Look at it long enoughit moves.
(29:31):
As I research these I'm startingto think there's a disgust for
the world of money. Wespent decades in a psychiatric
hospital for the criminallyinsane. I
there is some sort of power,some spirit, it's
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connected to his art. He.
Something truly God damn strangeis going on.
This is a slaughter house.
Are you aware that these askthat all his art be destroyed?
Get rid of it. Boxingoff, I can't save you.
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People thought she was part ofan exhibit. Music. We're
trending on Instagram. It's amajor hit.
I remember when this popped up.
It was kind of one of thoseeverybody talking about it
movies for a little while,although I know we don't always
do rotten but this one amusedme. Some reviewers, 61%
audience, 36 Yeah. Wow. This iscurrently available in Netflix,
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directed by Dan Gilroy, who alsodirected the mind boggling
combination of Nightcrawler andKong Skull Island.
Written by Dan Gilroy, starringTony Colette, who's currently in
theI think it's opened juror number
two,knives out. And movie I heartily
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recommend if you haven't seenand you want a good feel movie.
Hearts beat loud.
Phenomenal film, also starringJake Gyllenhaal, who's in
Nightcrawler and enemy, fairlyrecently talked about by me and
Donnie Darko, also ReneeRousseau, who's also a
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Nightcrawler. Thor movies, andthe wonderful guest shorty,
great artistic kind of openingcredits with this, with the
art being used to layeverybody's out, kind of like
that sets up the movie fairlywell.
Got to say, right off the bat,Jake Gyllenhaal is awesome at
being an asshole. Critic, Ibelieve it. He is a phenomenal
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performer because he's playing acomplete dick, but you still
kind of go with him, yeah, youknow, and it's, and that's his
beginning for the movie.
This was a hard one to writedescriptions about. It's a
fairly unusual film, but I dolike this. My one of my favorite
sayings in this was,everything's been done and
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nothing is new. So it's like avery
late 80s, early 90s feel to alot of what's going on in this
film, but it was recent enoughdone that the artists or the
owners of the galleries weretalking about a logarithms to
help sell their stuff.
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There's an undiscovered artistis found dead in his
the hallway of the apartmentbuilding where one of the
aspiring art agents lives, andshe basically steals all of his
art and starts to sell itbecause it's dark, disturbing.
It's really good. It's actuallyincredibly well done art,
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but it's haunted. Yeah, theartist had in his will that all
his work should be destroyedupon his death, but obviously
she made sure that didn'thappen. So as the movie goes on,
people start dying and some veryinteresting ways. Now, full
disclosure, Tony Collette is notin this very much,
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but when she is in it, she is,of course, very good. She plays
the owner of a competing gallerywith Renee Rousseau. So it's a
lot of that battle of betweenthe two of them and her and the
art critics.
There's a storyline whereGyllenhaal gives an art critique
so bad that this guy ends uplike getting in a car wreck. I
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can't remember if he dies orgets arrested, but just kind of
ruins the guy's life becauseit's the ex of the woman he's
dating, Jesus.
So to I was really curious aboutthe art, as I always am in
movies that featured art. Youknow, listen this long time, I
love movies that deal with thedark side of artistic creation,
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and this certainly is that thecompany hired art advisor David
Hundley, who worked with digitalartist Saxon Brice, to
conceptualize the works, andthen Alexander pavnov actually
painted them. These are allreal, painted, created art
pieces featured in the film,which is good because they need
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to be if they tried to doanything digitally, it would
look really weird. It looselyresembles the life of Henry
Darger, who was a recluse thatcreated an enormous volume of
artistic work, which was.
Not celebrated until he died,and spent time in an asylum
(35:07):
while he was alive. Oh, wow.
He's largely known as an outsideartist, which is kind of what
this movie is about.
Let's see real quick here.
Dan's ultimate goal in makingthis movie is kind of like, I
hope people look at art in aslightly different way. Uh, look
at a piece of music, look at asculpture, a painting, a film.
(35:29):
We realize the artists behindthat have invested what I
believe to their creative soulinto the work.
To me, it's a bit of a sacredthing, and I think we've lost
that a little bit, maybe even alittle more now I and all that,
I would love to return to that.
So that's kind of what thismovie is about. And this one, I
definitely fall on the criticsside. I really thought this was
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an interesting film. It has it'snot a great movie, but it's an
interesting movie.
So Have either of you seen this?
Or, yeah, no, I have not. AndI'd spent on my list for a long
time, I didn't realize that ithad those kind of horror
elements to it. Yeah, that'sweird, haunted. Wow, killings,
that's Alex. Killing is quiteelaborate. Yeah. I was
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ultimately very disappointed bythis, because I wanted it to go
in a different direction, sure,but I thought the performances
were all really nice, and Ithought the art was really cool.
I think that's why I was mostlydisappointed, was I was like,
Oh, I love all of the elementsof this. I just want the story
to be a little darker and alittle more
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supernatural at the end,gruesome the that was, that was
part of the downfall for me, alittle bit. I mean, I enjoyed
it, but the the theghost element seemed like, like
one interview I read with theguys like you wanted, oh, what a
neat idea for a horror movie.
Then he kind of forgot, and didhis art critics suck, kind of
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movie a little bit more, and thehaunted was just an element for
only a handful of scenes, yeah.
But the the idea of the way theart world is, and growing up
with a mama worked in galleriesand worked in things, it's it
hits me in the right area. Sothat aspect I liked, but yeah,
it's definitely lacking a lot inthe horror department. Yeah,
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Vanessa, you want to go next?
Yeah, absolutely. We'll give youfive minutes. All right. Well, I
went with the 2000 film shaft.
Where remember me, read my mind.
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Who delivers 10 times out of 10?
Who's the cat that won't copout? Cherry Ray,
I might take you down,but I'll never let you down.
Now, what's my name? Shaft,You're damn right.
(38:19):
You are gone from this precinctfor what
I'm done. I'm getting my own wayin a system where money can buy
you freedom. What about thewaitress? The waitress, she saw
it, huh? So what'd you do?
Threatened the next day. I juststarted running. I've been
running ever since in a citywhere fear can buy you power, I
(38:41):
need someone located. That'sgonna cause you
only one man will stand up forjustice. You ain't even a pig no
more. You think that makes meless dangerous or more
dangerous?
You're too hot, man, you got tostep off bit.
(39:06):
Got milk right on his ass,his mind. You know, something
happens trying to come after youmyself. You won't have to
something happens to her. Ithappens to me any questions,
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which I do not know a lot aboutshaft, so I feel like it was a
bit of an education for me.
That's what I hear. Joel mouth,this had a budget of $46
million and box office of 107directed by John Singleton, who
has 19 credits, but mostnotably, Boys in the Hood,
(39:58):
starring Samuel L Jackson.
In 211 credits. We've talkedabout him before. If you don't
know who he is, I don't knowwhat to tell you.
Tony Colette, 96 credits. We'vebeen talking about her, but she
was also a nightmare alley.
Hereditary Muriel's Wedding,which I still haven't seen.
This one also has VanessaWilliams, is this returning,
(40:20):
returning member to the show,114 credits, including Ugly
Betty Pocahontas, eraser,Desperate Housewives and a fair
amount of animated stuff. Andthe one who owns my name,
Christian Bale, Jeffrey Wrightfrom American fiction last year,
(40:41):
Dan hidea Busta Rhymes, RichardRoundtree, so has so, yeah, so
Andre Royo, Isaac Hayes, JohnSingleton, and Elizabeth Banks
is a background artist in oneshot where she just smiles at
everything everyone says,including the racist things and
the cool black guy things. So Idon't know which group she was
(41:02):
with, but she smiled a lot. Iwas like, That's fucking
Elizabeth. Thanks.
The story follows shaft. Who isthe nephew of the original
shaft? So it's more of a sequelis called to a crime scene where
a black guy has been bludgeonedwith a red carpet, red carpet,
rope pole, and is basicallybeing resuscitated by the
(41:23):
emergency services, where hethen dies.
Shaft, goes to a theater toquestion people and finds one
man, Christian Vale, with bloodon his hands, as well as a
waitress who has some blood onher chin. Shaft questions the
waitress, who won't talk, butshe does point out the man
(41:44):
Walter Wade Jr, as beingresponsible. He finds out from
the girlfriend of the guy whojust got bludgeoned that Walter
Wade Jr, of the famous Wadefamily, made a ton of racist
remarks at her boyfriend beforethe two had an altercation
outside, but there were no otherwitnesses as to what happened.
(42:06):
Of course, Wade is now taken infor homicide, and after being
set a bail, he escapes toSwitzerland for two years. He
returns, but shaft does aarresting
which seems like, oh yeah, hedid this really clever thing,
but maybe that's exactly whatWalter Wade wanted him to do,
(42:28):
and he's got his whole defenseset up ahead. The only missing
piece is the waitress whodoesn't want to be found, and no
one seems to be able to findher. To make matters worse,
people's Hernandez, A notorious,dominical
Dominican drug lord that shaftbasically gives a hard time,
teams up with Walter to help himfind the waitress and kill her,
(42:52):
so the trial will go in hisfavor. Shaft must find the
waitress, save the waitress,fight against Walter the
Dominicans and some dirty copswith a small group of cool ass
friends to set things right.
This film was way better than Ithought it would be. It was
super fun. It feels like aMission Impossible movie or just
some kind of great action film.
It really doesn't even need tobe a shaft movie. Has really
(43:15):
good writing, great pace, funcharacters and a ton of
underrated actors who, at thetime, of course, were a bunch of
black actors who were notgetting cast, but would go on to
do incredibly awesome shit.
It starts the credits with anipple in there. And I was
really worried, because I cannotimagine Samuel L Jackson being a
(43:38):
sex symbol and having to watchhim do a bunch of chips.
Luckily, that's mostlydownplayed. He clerks a lot, but
I did not have to watch him banganybody, and I'm grateful for
that. Why Jeffrey Wright isplaying a Dominican man? I don't
know it's weird, but he does agreat fucking job. Oh, holy
shit. He's so much fun. IThis show has a killer fucking
(44:03):
ending. And yeah, I just, Ireally, really enjoyed it. I
only have a little bit oftrivia. John Singleton planned a
sequel where shaft battles druglords in Jamaica, but the film's
mediocre box office returns, andSamuel L Jackson's
disappointment with the filmstopped any plans for a sequel.
According to an interview withChristian Bale, one of the main
(44:24):
reasons he took this role wasbecause of a fight scene between
Walter Wade, JR And shaft at anairport runway. The scene was
filmed but then cut to make moreroom for scenes with Jeffrey
Wright, who scored higher withpreview audiences, which it
should, because it wasincredible. Will Smith was
considered for the role ofshaft. This was the first
(44:45):
collaboration between Samuel LJackson and Tony Collette, who
would later work together onchanging lanes and Triple X
Return of Xander Cage. It isavailable on paramount.
I've never seen this. Oh, youhaven't. It's.
A fun movie. I don't like youmade a great statement. I'm not
sure why it was a shaft film,yeah, per se, except for to use
(45:07):
the music, yeah,because it's really very
different from, have you seenthe original show? I have not.
Yeah. It's very different. Ibelieve it a lot more violent, a
lot more sex. It's, very good,yeah, but it's, yeah, I like
both of them, but they arereally different films. I will
have to check this out. I justpassed on this because it got
(45:29):
pretty bad reviews. It wasweirdly fun. And just watching
people act circles around was Idon't I just, I had such a good
time. It was really, reallyenjoyable. It is definitely
not quite but pushing the we'regoing to be over acting, but,
(45:51):
oh, but it works. So it works.
It's just a fun, yeah, it's justa fun setup, a fun story. And,
yeah, exactly like, I don't knowwhy it's a shaft movie
necessarily, other than just ashortcut the way that he will
proceed and like, be a copwithout the rules and that kind
of stuff. Jeffrey Wright musthave been a baby in this movie.
He is so young. He's so young. Ididn't realize he'd been acting
(46:16):
all that time. I know. I know.
Well, I started looking throughHis credits, and I was like, I
had no idea he was in the thingshe was in. He was just
chameleoning his way through agreat career. He was born in 65
and that's old,okay. Well, I'm gonna go last.
(46:37):
Give myself five minutes to talkabout a little known film called
The Sixth Sense.
No, the accident up there. Yeah,somewhere. Got her. They did a
lady, she broke her neck. Oh, myGod, but you can see her. Yes.
(46:59):
Where is she? I standing next tomy window. You
(47:23):
Baby, worry, shaking,Cole, what's wrong? Did you ever
talk to your mom about howthings are? I don't tell her
things. Why not? Because shedoesn't look at me like
everybody else. And I don't wanther to I don't want her to know,
know what I see deadpeople walking around like
regular people. I don't seeanything. Are you sure they're
(47:43):
there?
Sometimes you feel it insidelike you're falling down real
fast. You ever feel the pricklythings on the back of your neck?
Yes, that's them.
They get mad. They get cold. Howoften do you see them? All Time.
They're everywhere.
(48:15):
They want me to do things forthem.
I think that they know thatyou're one of these very rare
people who can see them. So youneed to help them.
What if they don't want to helpI don't think that's the way it
works. I need help for sure.
(48:35):
Is anyone there?
Look it up. Please, make themplease. I'm working on it
from 1999 you guys ever heard ofthis one? Really good,
(49:00):
written and directed by M NightShyamalan, who has 19 credits,
uh, writing credits, uh,including praying with anger,
wide awake. Stuart Little, andhe directed the happening old
and The Last Airbender. You'repicking out some of the hits
there I see,starring Bruce Willis. 148
credits, including the detectivenight trilogy, fortress and
(49:23):
fortress colon snipers, eye aday to die, which seems like a
blatant title rip off of a GoodDay to Die Hard. It's a
different movie.
Also in this is Haley JoelOsment, who has 128 credits,
including tons of voice overwork. He was Forrest Gump Junior
(49:44):
in Forrest Gump, and he's beenin Pay It Forward in AI
Artificial Intelligence. And thelovely Tony Collette, who has 96
credits, including Connie andCarla, Mary and Max and Diana
and me, who.
Cool also in this movie isOlivia Williams, Donnie Wahlberg
and Misha Barton.
(50:06):
So we open on a scene where DrMalcolm Crowe, prominent child
psychologist, returns home onenight with his wife, Anna, from
an event in which he was honoredfor his work. Very quickly, the
two discover they are not alone.
A young man has appeared holdinga gun. Malcolm recognizes him as
a former patient whom he treatedas a child for hallucinations,
and the man shoots Malcolm inthe stomach and then turns the
gun on himself. We fade out andfade back in about a year later,
(50:29):
and Malcolm begins working withanother young boy, nine year
old, Cole Sear. Cole isexperiencing hallucinations
similar to Malcolm's patientthat shot him, and we soon
realize that there is somethingin Malcolm that is drawing him
to the boy he feels like if hecan help Cole get better, that
might relieve himself of theguilt he feels over failing his
other patient.
(50:51):
But Cole is pretty difficult toreach, and although it seems
that he and his mom, TonyCollette, have a very loving
relationship, Malcolm isstarting to wonder if she is
maybe abusing him. See, Colekeeps showing up with bruises on
his body, and it seems veryclear that he's hurt and scared
of something.
Well, pretty soon, Malcolm andCole have built up a pretty
(51:12):
trusting relationship, and hispatient reveals to him that he
sees dead people in a scene thatstill managed to raise the hair
on my arm, because this littleboy is so fucking phenomenal as
an actor that you really believethe torment he is going through
when you close your eyes.
Malcolm asks, lying on theground, nope, says Cole, walking
around like regular people. Theydon't know that they're dead. So
(51:34):
Malcolm leaves that meeting verydisturbed. He's sure that Cole
is delusional and worried. He ishaving a psychotic break, but
then he goes through somerecordings of his old patient
and starts thinking that notonly is Cole telling the truth,
but maybe the patient that hehad failed also had this ability
and it drove him to suicide.
This happens shockingly late inthe story, like at the end of
(51:56):
the second act, and it is aweird scene that doesn't really
work in the traditionaltransition into a third act. But
Malcolm goes back to Cole andtells him that he thinks the
reason that these dead peopleare so drawn to him is that they
know he can see them and theyneed his help, which sets Cole
on his way to hopefully beingable to deal with his ability.
Man, what a fucking movie. Ihave probably seen this a half
(52:18):
dozen times, but certainly notin the last 20 years. So it was
a shock to me to revisit this,not only how good Bruce is,
because, I mean, this was hiscomeback film, and he fucking
killed it, and his chemistrywith Haley Joel Osment is
something to behold, a reallybeautiful relationship, yeah.
But also, you guys, know, I havea bit of a crush on Tony
(52:39):
Colette, and this is the movie,why she is so damn beautiful in
this movie, in a verybelievable, you know person you
meet in your apartment complexkind of way. And I just thought
she was gorgeous, and I fell inlove with her all over again.
Tagline, I see dead people. Weall know this
(52:59):
trivia. Toni Collette has saidthat she was so moved by the
emotional resonance of the storywhile filming, she did not
realize it was a horror filmuntil after it's released.
David Vogel, then president ofproduction of Walt Disney
Studios, read M Night Shyamalanspec script and instantly loved
it without obtaining corporateapproval, Vogel bought the
(53:20):
rights to the script despite thehigh price of $3 million and the
stipulation that xianlong directthe film Wow, the role
of Malcolm Crowe was writtenwith Bruce Willis in mind.
This was the first of two moviesthat Bruce Willis owed Disney
after he caused anotherproduction after Bruce caused
another production, the Broadwaybrawler, to be shut down due to
(53:41):
him firing the director. He waspaid ten million to this movie,
half of his usual salary at thetime. He made a reported $100
million off the film when it wasall said and done,
the the scene with Colette andthe kid in the car at the end.
(54:02):
That's the same devastation sheread for and
when she read that scene, shewas like, I want this movie so
fucking badthere. I haven't seen it in
years. There are scenes from it,and that's one that just sits in
my head, just really, yeah, it'slike real estate that's been
taken out by this movie. Everytime you close your eyes and
(54:23):
imagine it's like, oh yeah. Iremember being in the tent with
the little girl and yeah,there's just yeah, this was one
of those movies. I mean, look,we're gonna talk about a 25 year
old movie, so don't tell me, Oh,I was gonna watch that tonight.
If you're worried aboutspoiling, turn off. Now, come
(54:46):
back and listen to the finallike, I don't know, 10 or 15
minutes of the show after you'vewatched it. So re watching it
again, you know. And now we allknow the twist that Bruce is
dead,just the masterful way that it
is shot to.
Ever show him talking to the momor even approaching the house or
the school or anything likethat, he just is wherever he
(55:08):
needs to be to talk to Cole. AndCole always comes into the scene
a little late, so it looks likehis doctor is waiting for him or
something like that. And it justall works so beautifully that I
was like, God, this isjust a a brilliant piece of
filmmaking and to pull in. Andit's just a small bit, like,
(55:30):
when the movie first starts.
Like, is that Donnie Wahlberg?
And, oh, my God, he is. Yeah.
Well, everybody's amazing.
There's, there's just not a realstrong sour note in the film, I
had forgotten that the the twistpoint for Bruce is him going
back through his recordings, andDonnie Wahlberg's kid character
(55:53):
was seeing dead people I hadforgotten. Did not remember
that. That was the thing thatmade him go, Wait a second. I
have a patient who was sayingthe same things and then killed
himself. So I feel like I needto, you know, really pay
attention to this other boy. Sothat was another layer that I
(56:16):
was like, oh, that's just areally nice little bit of
writing there that makes BruceWillis's character very
believable. Wow. So I reallywant to re watch this movie,
because it has been a minutesince I've seen it, and it's
hard, because when films have abig reveal at the end, I often
will write them off and be like,I don't need to see this and
(56:36):
just have big, big old twist.
But I really feel like it wouldbe such a fun one to look at.
Yeah. I think your your pointabout re watching it, knowing,
but watching for what Bruce isdoing or what is happening in
those scenes, like when Bruceand Tony were sitting in the
chairs, yeah? And she feelslike, Oh, they're talking. She's
(56:59):
not looking at him at all. He'slooking at her and she's looking
down. And it's a shot that's farenough away that on first
glance, you're going to be likethey've been talking about her
son. Yeah,it's movies a little frustrating
too, in one respect, like, Idon't know, maybe it was a weird
ego explosion, but how you makea movie this brilliant and go on
to, I mean, not just make badmovies to make some truly awful
(57:25):
films. Well, I know you agreewith me that his next film is
his best film, which isunbreakable, unbreakable,
phenomenal. Yeah, that one'sreally but I think that that one
was not as not appreciated asmuch, but it did then set a
precedent. So there's a bigtwist of the Sixth Sense, and
there's a big twist andunbreakable and I think that he
was kind of then like, oh, fuck,every movie has to have a big
(57:48):
twist. That's what I'm known fornow, trapped himself, which is
too bad, because the talentdisplay in these first two
films, it's just phenomenal.
Yeah, really something else. Iremember sitting in the theater
with my girlfriend at the time,and we're watching this, and
there's a scene at the end wherehe is talking to Cole after he's
(58:11):
seen him in his play, and Colesays, I'm not going to see you
anymore. And Bruce says, Yeah, Ithink that you're going to be
okay. And I leaned over to mygirlfriend, I was like, I think
that he's dead. And she waslike, and then when it gets
revealed, she looks at me, shegoes, fuck.
Why did you have to sayanything? I just it just hit me.
(58:37):
So good.
Yeah. What a great movie. I wasjust engrossed in a movie I've
seen many times before, butrevisiting it. You know, 20
years later, was something elseon a completely unrelated note,
the 4k copy of trap arrived inmy house.
You bought the 4k version oftrap, huh? Look, man, when
(59:02):
something just grabs hold youthat well. Josh Hartnett, Oh,
beautiful. Well, Vanessa, youmake too much money.
So Well, you know, I orderedseverance new blood Island
series. So I'm not gonna haveanything to talk about. Yeah, I
(59:25):
did stop going to vinegarsyndrome, full stop. So the last
thing I ordered from themwas the keep I think I have
ordered there. They've got somany partner labels now it's
hard to sift through, and I'mlike,
what you got going on? Yeah, Ialso stopped buying comics. I
(59:45):
just get stuff from the libraryat this point because I have
such a backlog. Yeah, we alllove what we love. Money is
actually a little tight thismonth, and I still did the pre
order on the Micronauts, superseven, of course, beautiful.
Okay, that's accurate. Okay. Sonormally, Vanessa, this would be
(01:00:09):
your pick for the next one, butwe are running a little late on
this, and it is time for us todo our countdown of our favorite
films of 2024,so that's what we will be doing
next week, I'd say I we'veusually done these late, and I
appreciate that. I get soannoyed at the end of Best of
December 1, still another monthago, and a whole lot of really
good movies on DecemberNosferatu, for one. Yeah, you
(01:00:33):
go, I imagine that'll be onsomebody's best stuff.
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