February 13, 2025 • 62 mins
309 WHO THAT SAY CUSACK???
Kelly's not a fan of the video format and the gang talks John Cusack films!
Also discussed: Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, I like Movies, Companion.
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Strange eons. Welcome to strangeeons. Radio that is Eric over
there. Hello, that is Vanessaover there. Hello. I am Kelly.
You guys come to you live on aSunday morning. Foggy Everett,
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sure is with an attitude forgratitude
in your am. Oh Lord, we got thetraffic out there. It's really
bad. We had some snow over thelast week. We did last week, and
that was kind of crazy.
And as you can see, I'm reallyembracing my senior citizen. I'm
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gonna go and try and get halfprice tickets at the movies. You
look very cozy. Definitely readyfor the early word special.
Here's why. This way, I gottasay, Eric, I'm not thrilled with
this old video taping thing.
Yeah, no, yeah, wearing White'snot
a holy cow, I am a big fat boy.
No, the iPhone bends the edgesso you bend the edges of my gut.
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It does. I'm not kidding, ifyou're near the frame, which
trade places with Vanessa there?
Yeah, you'll see you're gonnalook real tiny. He'll be way
shorter in frame, I look verytiny on this side, he does look
very short. I look like a littlekid at the end of the table.
You're basically eye level to usas you're sitting here. But on
the video, it looks like, I knowI'm like, way like, yeah, no, I
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never noticed because thegravity of my gut drags my eyes
over to it, and I'm just like,Why did I agree to this
bullshit? Well, now you lookcozy. I hope that black is
slimming. Youknow? What else is slimming
would be losing some weight.
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Oh my gosh, for me,the handsome gentlemen, diggity.
Anybody would go to prom withyou, you just have to ask.
I did have multiple prom dates,very different. I just know you
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have longer hair, lighter hairweighed about half, literally
half what I weigh now. I'mgetting
fat because my mom says, Stoptelling me that I'm a handsome
boy. Are you sure you justhaven't called her enough?
I have watched some stuffthough, you guys, oh, that's
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good. And today for me is goingto be an animation heavy
discussion. That is crazy. Iwatched on Disney, plus the
first, I think we're up to sixepisodes now of friendly
neighborhood Spider Man, ohshit. I forgot that was out. How
is it? It's fucking adorable. Ohmy god. And it's also, they're
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playing fast and loose with thestuff. So it's, you know, a
multiverse kind of thing. And infact, even opens up with a
doctor strangeappearance from a different
universe where he's doingsomething. So Peter Parker's
origin story is changeddrastically. I was like, Oh,
this is interesting, how they'redoing this,
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and it's very interesting to seewhere they're going with some of
the characters,Harry Osborn and Norman Osborn
play very different against typepeople in this show. And I'm
like, Oh, this is really, reallycool. It's got really neat
animation and very good voiceacting and a really neat story,
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especially if you're a fan andfamiliar with Spider Man, to go,
Oh, I see what they're doinghere. This is similar, but
different. And I gotta say, Ireally, really love it so, and I
think it's almost over for theseason already, so that's a
bummer. I think there's onlyeight episodes, no, okay, well,
I'm can't wait to check thatout. Yes, fill out the time.
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What the hell. The other thing Ithought was interesting, all the
posters and everything, thedesign is exactly the same as it
was when they first announcedit. But I don't know if you
remember when they firstannounced it. It was called
Spider Man freshman year. Yes,right? And now it is friendly
neighborhood Spider Man. Oh, sothey, you know, go, don't get
trapped next, next season.
That's what I was thinking,sophomores, yeah, it's only
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gonna be four years of thisshow. I guess he goes to
college. Is he in college at thelike, in this or is he in high
school? Feels very much highschool, okay, yeah, huh, yeah.
It's very confusing. I was whenI was reading the comic.
Um, like, there was like a prepschool version at one point. And
I was like, Are you in collegeor in high school? I don't know
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where you are anymore, becauseyou're learning intense stuff,
but you seem to be in highschool drama. So I think the
they've always pushed that he isadvanced intelligence, right? So
he's taking advanced courses,sure, in high school, yeah, so,
yeah, yeah. Well, I went lastnight and checked out love
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hurts, which is the new key HuaQuan movie,
okay, yeah, has a great lookingtrailer. Seems to be about a guy
who escaped a life of crime andbecame a realtor. Seems to be,
well,no, it sucks. Oh no, sucks. So
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bad. I was really sad about it.
Yeah, no, it's, um, it's a hugemess. Like, the whole film is
just a huge mess. Everything istotally, like, really whiplash
between, like, way over the top,violent end points, and then,
like, Haha, it's funny guys. Andyou're like, okay, that guy from
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play that conquers is here. Iguess that's kind of cool, but
you did rip out his teeth asecond ago, so that's sweet.
Yeah, that's like, where you'reswinging between. And there was,
like, comedy beats that werehappening in the trailer that
didn't make it in the film, andthat's fine, but there was just
a lot of like connective tissuethat didn't make sense. And I
think they knew it, because theyput in a bunch of voiceover that
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feels disconnected and random,but the girl who's like the love
interest in it, otherwise shewould like come across so
poorly. I think they had to doit, because otherwise she just,
it's like, why the fuck wouldyou like this chick? She's
awful. She's absolutely awful.
So I don't understand the endingof the movie at all and the
maybe skip this one.
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This is aAmerican production, or it's a,
I believe it's an American Ibelieve it's American
production. It's actually thefirst director, world debut by a
stunt guy, as far as director soI think he's just kind of
finding his sea legs, and he hasa lot of experience. He did
like, fall guy. And, I mean,this guy's stunt experience is
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crazy. He's done like 8080,credits, like Star Wars, stuff,
violent night matrix, all kindsof stuff, birds of prey, any
good stunts? There's a lot offighting. There's a ton of
fighting. I would say the stuntsare cool. I don't know if
they're shot in the mostinteresting way. And you do get
a little fatigued by thefighting at points, because
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you're like, I don't care. I'mnot invested enough to, like,
care about the fighting. Andthere's one scene where he's,
like, really protective of anitem, and you're like, Why do
you care about this item? Andthen you think that maybe the
item is going to be used forsomething. It's not.
Yeah, check off. Man. What abummer, because the trailer did
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look fine. I know we've all beenrooting for him. Yeah, I know he
does a great job, like he'sdoing every I think the actors
are doing a great job. It's justa really messy script, a really
messy film, and maybe directingcould have been stronger. I
don't know for sure, but, yeah,I'm glad I gave some money and,
you know, viewership numbers tosupport him as a lead, because I
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think he's great, and I can'twait to see him in more stuff.
But this film was, isit Marsha Lynch, yeah, the one
where he's the he's trying tokill him, or something like that
trailer, I don't remember. MaybeI'm thinking of the wrong film.
Yeah, you're, you might bethinking the wrong film. Oh no,
it does have Marshawn Lynch,yes. So he's, there's a bunch of
guys who were sent to kill him,and Marshawn Lynch is one of
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them. There was some behind thescenes stuff that would indicate
those two should get togetherand do like a rush hour thing.
That would be pretty fun. Theywere holy it's having a lot of
fun. Marshawn Lynch andand our lead, the lead guy,
yeah, oh, okay, because he'sactually one of the strongest
relationships in the entire filmis Marshawn Lynch, and the this
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white guy that he's in the carwith, and they're just talking
back and forth aboutrelationship issues. And you're
like, these two, I believe, Oh,good. Every other relationship
in this film. Do not believe fora second these two. The Best
Actor in a movie is Marshawn.
That's that's not something youwould expect to hear based on
the few things I've seen him actin. I was like, I don't know if
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I'd put him in a film at all,but also was shot shocked to see
drew Scott, I believe he's oneof the Property Brothers from
HGTV. Yeah. I was like, Who isthis guy? I was like, He's not
really handsome enough to be afilm guy, but he looks so
fucking familiar. And I waslike, Oh, my God, it's a
property. Brother, okay, I likethat. He's, like, one of the
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super pretty boys of those kindof shows. But for this, was
like, you're off it, yeah,totally like Hollywood. You
know, can only I finally havestarted to.
Figure out my new livingenvironment and how and when I
can watch stuff. So, yeah,finished silo. Okay, holy shit,
dude. I'd forgotten. I had aweird reminder of how large this
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series is, where I was inbookstore the other day, and it
had wool silo, and I think sandis the last one, all next to
each other's like, oh yeah,those are all huge freaking
books.
And I thought it was great. Iliked it. I mean, there's, there
are moments in any this deep scifi show where you're kind of
like, okay, I'll bend with yourreality a little bit. I don't
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remember specific. I justremember at times going, Okay,
you're, you're pushing thisfirst story. But I don't care.
Let's go.
But yeah, I really liked it.
What did, what did you guys,spoiler alert, what did you guys
think of the way it ended? Ihaven't seen the second season.
Oh yeah. It's very different.
It's really, yeah, they storywise. It's a very different kind
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of story. Okay, it does feellike that. Um, I really enjoyed
it. I loved, like, seeing morethe inner workings of what's
going up with going on with thehigher ups in the silo. And,
like, kind of what all thatI want to say, like, lore is
about. And, yeah, I like theending a lot, Silo, yeah, the
history of the silo, how peopleare, like, trying to manage the
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silo, what they actually knowabout the silo? Like being even
the top head person in the silo?
I really enjoyed that. I I'm alittle confused about, I'm
forgetting the black actor'sname, who's the sheriff, who
becomes a judge? Oh, yes, I theactor, rapper,
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common, common, yeah, I'm veryconfused about what common and
his wife are doing in thatbecause I I had a hunch, and
then I was wrong, and I waslike, I don't know what you guys
are doing in this like, like, Idon't know what their motives
and I don't know what their endgoals are. I think part of what
worked for me in exactly whatyou're talking about, is it
felt, to me, it kind of feltlike a married couple thing
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where they're kind of havesimilar things they want to go,
but they're looking at it fromvery different angles and taking
it from very differentdirections to achieve the same
thing, yeah. And normally, Imean, it's, it comes and stuff
drives me. It's like, just tellthe person what's going on. But
I thought that worked well inthis one to where the discovery
came naturally, but, yeah, Icould see where that would be.
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It's it's weird. How did youfeel about our lead, being in a
different silo and being so? Iknew that was coming, because
that's a huge part of the story.
She gets out and survives, andthat all that leads to so that
one, I knew there's, I've readit like, 15 years ago, 10 I
don't remember much, but yeah,little things like that they
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got, okay, I know, like in thefirst season, they're gonna find
the tunnels underneath, andthere's gonna be the water,
yeah? But the, a lot of thelittle intricacies, I not sure
if that's how it happened in thebook, but it, yeah, it feels
like the he was so blanked onthe guy's name who wrote it, but
he was so open with the seriesand it was so successful that he
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would just let people do fanfiction about it. So there were
dozens and dozens of bookswritten, and I read a few of
them, and some really good thatmight be the next. Sure,
totally, yeah, no. I mean,there's such cool plots going on
in the way that people changeand shift their perspectives in
this and trying to figure out,you know, the previous judge and
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what she was thinking, and withthe head IT guy like Tim Robbins
is so fucking good. So really,really good, amazing moments in
thisseason. Yeah, no, it was. It was
an incredibly strong, incrediblystrong season. I'm I'm stoked
for season three. I hope ithappens in like a year. It'd be
nice. You know how we're alwaystalking about Apple TV is kind
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of underrated. I went to see oneof our great listeners, band ran
Oculus, and Rick was with me,and he's like, do you have apple
plus? Like, yeah, man, I justgot it. And I've watched this.
It's so so many things outthere, so good. Yes, they are,
like, there's only 20 things,but they're all great.
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They will keep you occupied. Imean, I've watched a lot of
things. I just started slowhorses on there, and we'll see
how that goes. But I am prettyclose to up to speed on
shrinking and like, I'mforgetting about foundation. I
want to watch. Oh god, I keepforgetting about foundation too,
and for all mankind. But, yeah,there's like, cool stuff on
there. Yeah. Kelly's like, I'mbored. No, no. Back to silo. Are
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we with two seasons now, are wethrough the first book or we
don't think so? Okay, yeah, Idon't think so. Really. I
believe,wow, yeah, I know at some point
things change a lot, but thatmight be, I don't remember if
those book two or three. So Ibought, yeah, I bought the first
book wool, and I was reallyexcited. And I was like, I.
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Don't want to ruin the show formyself, so I didn't let myself
read it. So it's just sittingthere, and I'm like, do I just
want to read you now, but Idon't want to spoil it for
myself. Oh, so frustrating.
Thanks. Okay, yeah, that's silo.
It is on apple plus, along withall those other great things, I
haven't seen slow horses yet,but my brother was just telling
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me how much I would love it. Sonice. Yeah, I've only, I'm only
one episode deep, so contribute.
Okay, the other animated thing Iwatched, Eric. Did you see that
invincible as return? Yep. Oh mygod. I was thinking I almost
changed my second one to that Igot a bet because, after, like,
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but I didn't want to surpriseyou, because I bet that's what
he's going to talk about. Yes, Iwatched the first two and about
10 minutes of the third. Did thewhole thing drop? Or is it just
the first they're doing, like,they do, like, three episodes
and then one episode till, Idon't know, I think it's only
eight episodes again. So, yeah,did you have you watched all of
them then? Yeah, the beginningof the third episode was so
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cool, surprisingly touching,because those two are such
minor, honestly kind ofinsignificant characters in the
comic, but their story is neat,so to just kind of throw that
story in for a 10 minute littlesegment and make it so cool.
That was a really neat idea.
Yeah, there's a scene with twovillains, and it's got it scored
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with beautiful music, but it'ssilent, and they're just trying
to get along in the world, youknow? So they they have to do
crime. Eventually they try to gostraight and doesn't work out,
and all this stuff. And youknow, you're kind of feeling for
them, yeah, at the end, it's sothey do a great bit at the very
beginning where they're robbing.
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And he looks at that, he'sscared a little kid, yeah,
bothers him so. And then itjust, I was, I was like, I kind
of got to stop watching. Andthen they finally set up. Okay,
I'll come back watch the restlater. But, yeah, it's really
good. It's really good. It'sreally gory.
It's like, yeah, like, we justsaid, it's surprisingly
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touching. And a lot of therelationship stuff that is going
on there between the mother andthe son and the son and the
girlfriend, I'm like, Wow, thisall rings very true. Yeah,
really nice writing in this. Andthey also, I mean, they've
introduced, for me, the mostannoying character in the whole
show, but he's vital. It's hislittle brother, yeah,
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but, or in the whole comic, but,and it looks like they're going
to nail his character again,which is great. Yes, what he
should be, but, yes,yeah, it is, but he adds a new
level of conflict and stuff likethat. So I'm really, really
impressed with this show. It'slike you would expect the series
to be on a 300 issue comic book.
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It is streamlined a lot, butthey're hitting all the
important beats, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, really good. So, and thatis on prime. It is called
invincible. If you haven'twatched it, watch the first two
seasons and the new season,yeah, just it is the kind of
thing you need to watch inorder. Yeah.
Well, I saw another film lastweek, companion. Yes, getting a
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lot about it. Yeah, it's gettinga ton of hype right now.
I loved it. I just loved it. Idid too. My only complaint, and
I would say, If anyone thinksthey want to see this, please
don't see the trailer. Yep, I'veheard that several times
because I was like, I you knowwhat the movie is when you're
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going into it, but when it playsout, you're like, Oh, I really
wish I didn't know where thiswas going. What a beautiful
reveal. I would have probablyfigured it out fairly fast,
because the minute you put awoman in, like, beautiful, 1960s
glam, where I'm like,something's up, something's
amiss. But yeah, no, Idefinitely avoid the trailer.
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Avoid the movie poster, becauseI'm looking at that right now
and the poster totally gives itaway. Gives us away. So stupid,
but yeah, such a strong, funfilm. I mean, yes, considering
everybody in it is a horribleperson.
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Jack Quaid continues to impress.
Yeah,yeah. Just in, like, even the
like, side characters, I just,they were just all really fun.
It felt like they cared. Andeven though, like the like,
repair guy who comes out at theend, yeah, I was like, Yeah, you
go, you're cool too, you'reyou're all just cool. It just
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felt like such a neat versionof, you know, we've seen stuff
like that in sort of 1970sfeminist writing like Stepford
Wives and.
Okay, there's, there's otherthings that touch upon it. And
then there was recently thatmovie with Florence Pugh that
I'm forgetting the name of, thatI hated, and Chris Pine,
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with a similar kind of idea.
Yes, it is, don't worry,darling. Oh, is that what that
is about it's, no, I mean, it isand it isn't. It's a very
similar situation where you feellike there's a, you know, a
woman who seems to be in arelationship, where you think
maybe there's something elsegoing on, there's something awry
happening with, like, the wholetown has something going on with
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the women in it. And you'relike, What is the situation?
There's sort of something amok.
And I just felt like it fellflat on his fucking face. I just
hated, don't worry, darling. Idon't think it was a very good
movie at all, but I'm a huge scifi nerd, so I was also like,
cool. I thought the originalStephen wives was better than
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this. Like, Oh my woof. I mean,the evidence finds okay movie,
but anyway, yeah, this is acompanion, and Eric, you'll also
love it, but it is one of thoseones that would have been, you
know, like Abigail, it's like,why put the Vampire Princess in
the trailer and the poster?
Yeah, because it's just a reallynice reveal. I think between the
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two films I saw for Valentine'sDay, I would highly recommend
going to companion rather thanlove hers. I think it's a much
better V Day film thatsounds like something very
different.
So I was kind of in the mood ofwe talked before we on about
seeing good, feel good, kind offilms, and thought I saw one
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called I like movies which lookto be it's a Canadian made film
about a high schooler who lovesmovies and wants to make movies
andand you look like, okay, he's
kind of the the troubled kidwho's gone through some shit,
who you're going to see getredeemed by the end.
He's such an asshole through somuch of the movie, you find out
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there's a good reveal why he'sgot issues that helps. But
unfortunately, after that bigreveal, he doesn't get a lot
better. He stays being really,really mean, like to his mom and
boss and friends and all thisstuff. And the the redemption is
like the last five minutes, andby that time,
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too late, little too late, butit's a well done film. It's an,
if you like, natural realism ina film. This is really good. The
Acting all is all incredible.
The story's interesting. I justwish the most likable character
in the movie is probably themanager of the video store or
his mom, not him.
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So that's a problem, but it'sit's an incredibly well made
film, but it's hard to say, goout and see it. Is this a new
movie? Yeah, and it must be setin the 80s or something early,
2000sOkay, so video store, okay,
yeah. But, and they even pulloff, you know,
you can work for our company andhave a career for like, the next
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40 years.
But overall, I mean, it's just areally well done, simple kind of
film. I just wish they'dpushed him, because when he the
actor, when he becomes likable,is immediately very likable. So
obviously he's pretty goodactor, right? So it's like, God,
just tweak him a little bitearlier. But so it's good. I
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just it's hard to say you haveto watch this movie, unless
you've got, like, you know, ifyou really want that blockbuster
return and you really want this,it touches a lot. There's a lot
of stuff shot in a video store,the nostalgia, the overpriced
popcorn,the dues that are late after two
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days. And it's basically the, Imean, I like video stores. I
miss them, but also they'rethere. It wasn't perfect. It
wasn't a perfect time. Well,yeah, we've talked about it
before. My experience working inSuncoast, reading the trade
magazines about some of the shitblockbuster did, but, you know,
I'll leave that aside. Somepeople really love it.
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It's called, I like movies. Andwhat did you watch this on? It's
a rental on a few different Oh,I think Apple, like Apple TV
actually is where I watched it.
Oh,okay, well, cool. How about we
take a little break, and thenwhen we come back, we're talking
about John Cusack. Youteach your children well, he
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thought it was a game when hisparents taught him to identify
the smell of natural gas andtelephone the gas company for
help. He know.
Now that gas leaks a seriousbusiness more important, he
knows what to do about theproblem. If you think you have a
gas leak, call your gas company.
They're on duty 24 hours a day,teach children well.
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You now we have returned.
Vanessa, this was your topic.
Yeah, you chose John Cusack.
Never heard of it. Yeah, I know.
I knew this one would be achallenge for you guys,
definitely having existed in the80s at all, this would be really
a rough boom Bucha, for somereason.
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I don't know why, big, longbrown trench coat.
Yeah, no, I chose this onebecause we'd just been doing,
you know, popular named or, youknow, just named people. And I
thought I'd just kind of keepthat train going a little longer
there. And my sister was like,you didn't do John Cusack. And I
was like, fine. I'll do JohnCusack. See how you like that.
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Wow. Yeah, you're welcome.
I don't really like him, but I'mgonna do him just to spike. Oh,
wait, hold on. No, I like himvery much. Or at least, I have
definitely gone through periodsof being a big fan of John
Cusack. So yeah, and this was agreat excuse to watch 2012 from
2009 but before we get intothat, I would love to talk a
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little bit about John Cusack. Hehas starred in 91 productions.
He's a 58 year old man, sothat's a lot of films a year, I
guess.
Yeah, dad is a writer, actor,producer, documentary filmmaker,
Richard J Dick Cusack and hissister Joan Cusack also is an
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actor, and she's appeared in 10movies alongside him. He started
off in the 80s in things like 16Candles better off dead, which
we've talked about on the showbefore, and I think we're all
huge fans of Sure thing. Standby me and say anything. Then in
the 90s, he has stride with ConAir, gross point blank, The Thin
Red Line Being John Malkovich,high fidelity, many others. Then
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it kind of got rough in the2000s
I don't know how much do we wantto go into that, but he's
currently starring in Utopia. Ifthat is still going, I'm not
sure if it is right. I forgotabout that. Yeah, it was such a
fun surprise to see him in thereduring the famous just a couple
of fun little tidbits during thefamous boombox serenade scene,
and say anything, which is whateveryone knows him from. He's
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actually playing his favoriteFishbone tape in the boombox
while Peter Gabriel, song inyour eyes, is played in the
movie.
Cusack has been nominated forseveral awards, including Golden
Globe, for his role starring inhigh fidelity in 2012 he was
awarded a star on the HollywoodWalk of Fame. He won the 2012
Canadian Screen Actors Award forBest Performance in an actor by
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an actor in his role for map tothe stars, which I forgot he was
in. Oh yeah, me too, but yeah,just all around interesting guy.
I think there's a lot ofadditional drama, including,
like, his very outwardsayings about political things,
and there's, there's a lot ofother stuff with him, but
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follow my John Cusack, no idea.
Yeah, yeah. There's certainactors when you when they're
hot, heart throbs, and they'resort of on your radar, and then
they disappear for a while, orif something happens, you're
like, What happened to that guy?
And you're like, oh, oh, okay,do not look at Hugh Grant at a
certain point, what? Oh, allright, whoops. Sorry, sir. I'm
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gonna avoid that one. Why wouldyou ever cheat on Liz Hurley?
She's fucking hot, man, that'sfine.
Listen, you have steak everynight. Once a while you want a
hamburgerthe bottom of the barrel. Thomas
burger, in fact, just like, whynot treat yourself?
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You want to start talking aboutyour good idea. I'll put five
minutes on this strange eonsradio, buzzer, excellent. Um, so
like I said, I'm doing 2012which came out in 2009 you I
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remember shenanigans theaters iswritten and directed by, of
course, the great RolandEmmerich,
also co written with Haroldklosser. So it's when him and
Kloster were still talking toeach other, starring John
Cusack, chit Well, Escha forAmanda, Pete, Oliver, Platt,
(30:50):
Tandy Newton, Danny Glover,Woody Harrelson and many other
recognizable faces. Yep, I keptwatching it going, Oh, hey. Oh,
you, you're in this too. Oh, myGod, okay, you're here too.
The plot is, of course, likewith any Roland Emmerich film,
there's a lot happening at thesame time, but it starts off in
2009 the geologist AdrianHensley is visiting a friend in
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East India who's also ageologist, and learns that the
sun's solar flares are heatingup the earth's core. He returns
to DC to warn the government,and is directed immediately to
the President. A few yearslater, we see in the Tibetan
mountainside people are gettingbussed away because in China,
they're beginning an arcproject, which is being called a
(31:36):
dam project,the Ark tickets for whatever
this craft may be, whether it'sto the stars or to the sea, can
be bought for 1 billion Eurosper person. And then in 2012
struggling sci fi writer JacksonCurtis is a divorced limo driver
who is trying to reconnect withhis kids by taking them on a
(31:57):
camping trip to Yellowstone. Hejust can't compete with his
wife's new boyfriend, though,who is a fun plastic surgeon
guy.
While out on Yellowstone, theystumble into a large military
encampment when trying to lookat a lake that is seemingly
dissolved. And he meets Adrian,the geologist, who is a huge fan
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of his book and seems to be oneof maybe 20 people who actually
bought itwhen they are released from the
military and kind of like, don'tcome beyond the fence guys, they
encounter Charlie Frost, who isa crazy radio DJ slash
conspiracy theorist who warns ofan end time coming now in LA
there's been a series of littlequakes that seem to hit a fever
(32:40):
pitch when in the grocery store,his ex wife, Amanda Pete and her
boyfriend are having aconversation, and a giant rift
opens between the middle of thegrocery store and creates a huge
cavern splits the whole buildingin half. And so she calls her
kids and says, Come home,please. Jackson brings them
back. And when he returns towork in his limo driving ways,
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he goes to pick up his ride, aRussian billionaire client who
apparently has bought tickets toget away from LA and is leaving.
And his kids are like, Well, youshouldn't be a dick to us.
You're just gonna die See youlater. And he's like, whoa, wait
a minute. Oh, shit, theconspiracy theorist, maybe he's
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right. So he rushes back to hisfamily, just in time to save
them from the entirety of Lafalling into the ocean. They hop
a plane and another plane andanother plane.
Meanwhile, the tectonic platesare shifting, and Jackson must
use everything at his disposalto save his family and get them
safely to the ark, then find away to enter the Ark unseen.
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There are many, many othercharacters and side plots going
on in this film. Sothis was way better than I
remember it being, oh, really,yeah. I remember watching it and
being like, I feel like thisisn't my favorite Roland
Emmerich, but I felt that wayabout White House Down and now,
having seen Moon fall andindependence day
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too, these are way up there now,so pretty good, although 30 to
40 minutes too long. COVID down.
A lot of Yellowstone, a lot ofthe arc stuff, a lot of the
plane high stuff. It feels likethere's just a lot of repetitive
stuff and things that just keepgoing the disaster. So much
disaster, so unrealistic, soextreme. Love it so good.
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President is killed by fuckingaircraft carrier dude. I mean,
come on, look. He's juststanding on land in DC. Giant
tidal wave coming towards himwith the Kennedy aircraft
carrier going to smash his faceso good, he's like, I'm coming
home dead wife.
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Oh, my God,but dead kids in this film make
me very sad. I apparently can'tdo that very well in movies and.
More, just a little bit oftrivia. I know I'm out of time,
but the script is based on theearth Crust Displacement Theory
from Gran Graham Hancock'sFingerprints of the Gods
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Emmerich was hot shit fromIndependence day and day after
tomorrow, and had no issuesgetting funding. He actually
came in under budget for thisfilm. The tagline was, we were
warnedcreate disasters of the galactic
alignment in 2012 were supposedto have occurred in december 21
the day of the solstice, but thefilmmakers decided that the move
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to move the events up a fewmonths to mid summer, because
they didn't want to have todecorate the sense sets for the
winter holidays. The film wasbanned in North Korea because
2012 marks the 100th anniversaryof the birth of the first great
litter leader Il Sung Kim.
Several people were arrested forwatching pirated copies of the
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film.
John Cusack ad libbed the line,the guy's an actor. He's reading
a script when talking about theCalifornia governor who appears
to be a caricature of ArnoldSchwarzenegger on the TV, the
original line of the screenplaywas the governor's a meathead.
He could, how could he knowanything you got to trust me
over some politician. Come on.
And he felt the line would be abit too hard on Arnold
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Schwarzenegger. I was like,that's interesting. I wonder if
y'all are friends, or I wouldsay that his improvised line is
a little harsher girl, I guessit's a little harsher on
politicians. Yeah, I think so.
Or, like, I don't know. I guessit could feel like maybe he's
just saying he's not a very goodpolitician at all, and all he is
is an actor. Butyeah, it's, yeah, it's hard to
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know. Roland Emerg said thiswould be his last disaster
movie. He liedthe character Jackson Curtis is
the real name of 50 cent. CurtisJackson backwards. Roland
Emmerich is a big fan of therapper 50 Cent, and wanted to
name his lead character afterhim. There was a TV spin off
series planned that was going tobe called 2013 it ended up being
canceled, but they thought theywere going to pick up on the
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disaster related programmingafter lost finally finished,
but decided not to do it in theend.
So should have given us way lessstory and more of the trivia. I
didn't know any of this stuff.
That's kind of wild. I knowthere's some grace, I know, and
I felt like I cut the truth. Icut the story down. So much, so
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much. But nonetheless,I unironically love this movie.
I think it's pretty great. I sawthis in the theater. Not
remember the people who end updying being the ones who ended
up dying? Yeah, I was prettysurprised. I was like, what? You
fucking die? Oh, shit, you dietoo. Whoa. Okay. Yeah, I
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remember liking I think this isgreat. It's fun, great cinema,
but that's exactly what itshould be. It's ridiculous. Over
the top action. Just go, yep,I'd be fine with Emeric just
going,Look, I know what I am, and I'm
just going to remake the 70sdisaster movies with bigger
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budgets and bigger stars. Yeah,one of the trivia pieces is that
they drive the limo when they'regoing through LA through a
falling building. That's thesame building in an earthquake
from the 70s. So, yeah. So it'slike, he clearly just loves this
stuff, yeah? Like, fucking lethim do that forever. But Moon
fall was obviously,I told you the last time that
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the most unbelievable thing iswhen Cusack flashes his ID and
it says He's 29 years old. And Iwas like, come on, John,
Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
I do also like that. This is thesecond film in which John Cusack
plays a limo driver.
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Damn your type cast to a reallyspecific Thanks, sir,
Eric. If you don't mind, I'll gonext. Dive in. All right, I am
talking about a film from 2012called The Raven.
Dear God, get the inspector.
His crime is familiar to me.
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Edgar, Allan Poe, to what may Iattribute the honor of your
call. The night before last, ayoung girl and a mother were
found murdered.
The daughter's body was lodgedin a chimney. The mother's head
severed with a straight razor.
You're referring to one of mystories, a work of fiction. I'm
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afraid I am not. Doyou actually think that I've
murdered these people? Whatcannot be disputed is your
imagination is the inspirationof a horrendous crime. I love
you. Edgar, be careful.
I believe the killer is tauntingus. I
challenge a brilliant detective,mind the red girl and Paul
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again.
Name of wits. If I will killagain and on that new corpse, I
will leave clues.
As unfortunate as this is, youmay be uniquely qualified to
cast light on our killer,the pit in the pendulum. Are
there other stories in thecollection
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specifically about murder?
I'm afraid so.
His killer is methodical. Hewants us to know he's gonna
strike again. Idare you to try to save your
beloved's life. IHe will keep her alive to keep
you involved as part of hisgame.
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No matter how this ends, I willkill him.
I'd even say this is probablythe last good cue second. It
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is directed by James McTeague,who has 12 credits, including V
for Vendetta, Ninja Assassin andbreaking in and written by
Hannah Shakespeare, which is ahard name to live up to. Writers
11 credits, mostly TV episodesof sinner, the whole truth, the
philanthropist. She created andwrote the series killer women.
(41:41):
And it is also written by BenLivingston with this is his only
writing credit, but he has 76acting credits, mostly in parts
that have names like GM,executive number two or
investment baker or auctioneer.
I can see him in my mindalready.
Sorry. John Cusack, 91 credits,including Stand By Me broadcast
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news and Hot Tub Time Machinetwo,
also starring Alice Eve, who has53 credits The Haunting of the
Queen Mary bombshell and 10episodes of Iron Fist. And Luke
Evans, who has 54 credits,including Clash of the Titans,
Robin Hood, and he is the badShaw brother in the Fast and
Furious franchise. Remember?
Yeah, he's also in 18 episodesof The alienist. Have you guys
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seen the Raven? No, no,mother. Okay, this was one of
the two that I was looking at,the one I ended up doing. And
then, okay, all right, okay, themovie opens in 19th century
Baltimore as the police, led byDetective fields are
investigating a horrible murderscene that seems to resemble a
murder in the fictional storymurders in the room or written
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by one Edgar Allan Poe. Thismovie takes place near the end
of Poe's life, and at this time,he is a social outcast and
penniless drunkard whose storieshave not been circulated for
some time, and he has fallen inlove with a beautiful young
socialite named Emily, and theywant to wed, although her father
is very much against this.
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Detective fields recruits Poe tohelp him with the case. But then
another murder occurs, aliterary critic who was a public
rival of Poe's, and the man iskilled with a pendulum that
slices him in half. And it nowbecomes apparent there is a
serial killer who is killingpeople in the manner of deaths
from Poe's horror stories.
At this murder scene is left ared demon mask, an obvious clue
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that the next murder will occurat a ball in the manner of the
mask of the Red Death. And theonly ball coming up is being
thrown by the father of theyoung woman Poe wants to marry.
The police ask her father tocancel the ball, which he
absolutely will not do, but hedoes agree to let undercover
police patrol the party to makesure nothing happens. Something
absolutely does happen, andEmily is kidnapped. It is
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revealed in the kidnappers notethat he will kill Emily if Poe
does not start writing columnsfor the newspaper that describe
the brutal combination of factand fiction of the murders,
forcing Poe to write one morestory, Perhaps his greatest
story.
So the movie then turns into thekiller, staging all these murder
scenes that the police alwaysmiss him at and Poe having to
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document the scenes with adramatic flourish, all while
trying to save Emily, who hasbeen buried alive somewhere with
a very limited amount of oxygen.
This movie is a blast.
Gucci really throws himself intothe role, and even kind of
resembles Poe enough to make itsuper enjoyable.
Oh my gosh, yeah. Little bit oftrivia. The film posits a
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fictional representation of thelast days in the life of Edgar
Allan Poe. In reality, no oneactually knows how Poe spent his
last days. His death beingshrouded in mystery. He was
found delirious on the streetsof Baltimore in on october 3,
1849 wearing clothes that werenot his own, and on the night
before his death, he wasreported to have repeatedly
called out the name Reynolds. Hedied on October 7.
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1849 as depicted in the film,all medical records, including
his death certificate, have beenlost. Whoa Edgar Allan Poe only
made $9 for his poem The Raven.
However, in 1845 $9 would beequivalent to approximately $300
today. Cool. First trailer forthis movie was released on
October 7, 162years to the day after Poe's
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mysterious death. Wow,in the film Edgar Allan Poe has
a pet raccoon named Carl.
He did not actually have a petraccoon, but there is a Japanese
manga called Bungo stray dogsfeaturing a character named
Edgar Allan Poe that had a petraccoon named Carl. The manga
series launched in 2012 the sameyear as the film. It is unclear
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if one inspired the other.
Awesome. What a weird extrathing to do. That's cool. And
then at one point, SylvesterStallone had tried to set up a
rival Poe biopic. He had RobertDowney Jr
lined up to star in it. And yetRobert Downey goes on to be
Sherlock Holmes indeed. And thisis after Robert Downey Jr had
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his comeback, because Iron Manwas 2010 so he's hot shit again.
Speaking of what's just a littleaside, I do want to hear
whatever questions you haveabout this. I watched Kiss,
kiss, bang, bang, for the firsttime. Really, the first time.
What the fuck? How did I missout on this? No, everybody's
talking about Donald good. Thatmovie was Shane Black, yeah.
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Really good. Anyhow, this moviereally good. I can't believe you
guys haven't seen this. TheRaven. It is available on
prime I think Max. And to beWow, uh gosh, so did they put
him in, like, po Oh, tire withthe hair, the mustache, and
fuck, he looks like he has done,like, some research, because
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there's a lot of times wherehe's just kind of making a face.
And I'm like, That's the facethat we all know Poe from. And
he, his acting, is just fuckingsublime in this. I saw this in
the theater, and I rememberliking it, watching it this
time. I was like, he this shouldhave been a big comeback for
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him. And I think instead, thiswas the last of his good films.
That's too bad. Yeah. I mean,poet, like, the story of Poe is
so fascinating to me because,like, that period of art in
America, I mean, the streetswere all like mud, and it was
the small little towns whereeverybody knew each other, like,
throw just went into some woodsthat were like
(47:40):
a stone's throw outside of themain city, and he's like, I'm
going off. And people are like,again, all right, dude, see you
in a month. Bye. Do you needanything? Yeah. So it was that
same kind of time so, and I knowthat I had heard that Poe might
have been killed by he was in anopium den, and they used to drag
people out of the opium dens toforce them to vote in different
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ways, and that he might havebeen part of that. Were they
Interesting? Yeah, I also hadheard that he might have the
same affliction I do to wine,and he might have actually been
allergic to it. So when he usedto do public readings, he would
have a glass of wine rightbefore just to loosen himself
up, and then he would be like,staggeringly drunk on stage,
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which might have actually beenan allergy. That's interesting.
Yeah, they they tie in themysteriousness of his death very
nicely into this film, so that,you know, it is explained why
he's wearing somebody else'sclothes and the name he is
repeating and all this. And Iwas like, this is really a very
clever little movie thatdeserves a little more
attention. Yeah, I think it wasalmost like a, do you know if it
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did well financially? I don'tthink it did well financially.
Yeah? Because I feel like,remember it coming out and
people being like, stupid, yeah,yeah.
We went where po lived when wewere there in Baltimore that one
time. That's cool, yeah. How wasit? Very tiny,
what you call impressive, but itwas cool.
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It made us wonder ifEdgar Allan Poe landlord would
just get frustrated with himsome nights and be like, Fuck
the police.
Give me a time here. Oh, my God,no, we need to start tracking
whenever you make that joke,that's at least the third time.
(49:31):
Listen, nobody laughs at it. SoI'm gonna say it and tell people
laugh at it. Never got itbefore. Good God, Eric, would
you like to save me? Yeah, sure.
Five minutes, my brother, weseem to be very
packed together on time whenyours came out much earlier, but
(49:54):
it was 2012 yours was 2012 No,it came out 2009
Yeah, mine was 2012 and mine was2013 Oh, okay, so right around
it, so maybe not his last goodmovie. Oh, okay, but I'm doing a
movie from 2013 called grandpiano. You.
(50:30):
You're late, Tom, you have toskip the hotel and go straight
to the auditorium. Okay, it'sabout time you got back on
stage. I love you.
Tom, you're alive. That's thegreat. Tom Selznick, Tom
Selznick, you Rachmaninoff, ifonly he didn't chunk Hey.
Very funny.
I'm gonna scrap it London. Iknow it.
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Congratulations. The whole placeis packed,
ladies and gentlemen. TomSelznick, you
(51:14):
get back on stage now, you knowthe meaning of stage fright. You
you to try it.
For help, and I will hear it.
Get a guard involved. I willknow it. If you do any of these
things, your wife will die, playa wrong note and you will die.
I'll giveyou all the money I have. I want
(51:36):
your money. I want you to playthe Most flawless concert of
your life, you Igot your attention.
(52:09):
Don't disappoint me. Tom,and this, I still check out the
tomatoes to see if there'ssomething interesting. And this
is just like the last one Iwatched. The critics really
liked it and the public reallydid. It's like 80 to 40. Oh,
wow. Like, damn, but this was amovie, yeah. This is available
(52:31):
to rent multiple places,directed by yoshina Marat, who
did Garcia, the birthday fade. Idon't know much movies
written by uh Damien Chazelle,who has written some pretty good
movies. La, La Land. Oh,Whiplash, Babylon, that's all
(52:55):
the same. Writer, yeah, The LastExorcism, part two. Oh, my God.
Starring, yeah, starring ElijahWood, who is definitely the
person carrying this film. Yeah,might know him from back to
future Part Two, the good sonand flipper. He's one of the
kids playing the video games.
Did not know that. It's wild.
John Cusack, I mentionedprobably my favorite film from
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him was cross point blank. Yes.
And Carrie Bucha, who is in Argored state, and Madame Webb
variations there. So the moviestarts with a dramatic moving of
a piano out of storage, andElijah arriving in Chicago for a
show that he is terrified to dohe does not want to play again,
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because the last time he playedpublicly, he screwed up. They
don't actually show what he did.
But apparently he played verypoorly and messed something up,
bad enough that when he arrivesat the venue, the some of the
orchestras kind of ribbing him alittle bit and avoiding him.
Most of the people are nice, butyou can tell boy whatever it
was, so he hasn't played. Theysay he hasn't played in five
(54:03):
years publicly, and hissuperstar wife has an actress,
is bringing him back to perform.
So he isreally worried, because he's
playing on his mentor's famouspiano, and is afraid he's going
to screw up again because hismentor composed notoriously
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complex pieces to play,including one which he is not
supposed to play this evening.
There's some weird setupmoments, though, because he
arrives in Chicago, gets in alimo, not John Cusack driving,
gets to the venue,doesn't meet anybody, doesn't
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touch the piano, no rehearsal,no working with the he clearly
hadn't been there before, so hedidn't work with the orchestra.
And that's like, this is alittle strange, just as far as
the.
Structure of the way live musicshows are put on, but it
certainly moves the story at abreakneck pace, that's for sure.
(55:10):
So he starts to play in hisrehearsal, or is written in red
blood or red play one note andyou die.
And this can be one wrong note.
Yeah, play one wrong note. Youdie.
Andthis continues through a couple
other points, and eventually, atsome point, he puts in an
earpiece, and that's where weget John Cusack. He is, he's, he
(55:31):
doesn't show up physically inthis movie till, like, near the
end, but he's in the wholething, kind of a memorable
sounding voice, yeah, easy torecognize, but, and he shows
that he's got ahigh powered sniper rifle ready
to take him out. He does take ashot to prove it, and
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then movie takes off from there.
And it's kind of like, if you'veever seen phone booth, it's
similar concept.
One odd note in the movie, theend credits are 12 minutes long,
meaning the run time of thisfilm is about an hour and 15
minutes. Whoa. Oh, wow. So youknow that's kind of nice.
Elijah did learn to play thepiano, sort of. He learned to
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mimic where fingers would go,but he actually
isn't making the music.
It does feature the song, 10happy fingers, from the 5000
fingers of Dr T by Dr Seuss, whowrote the lyrics for the song,
but obviously not really singingit.
He only spent three weekstraining to do that the
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but it looks great. It looksincredible.
The other one,but he Yeah, so they edited, put
together so we always looks likehe's playing it really well. The
whole idea is John is a guy whothis piano has a secret, and
John wants to unlock thatsecret, and he can only do it by
playing his most complicatedcomposition perfectly. Oh, nice
(57:10):
it is.
You know that the beginning Italked about pulled me out of
the movie for a little whilegoing, What the hell kind of
weird will I perform?
Performances? Andthere's a character that's
really annoying the I don't knowif it's a friend of his wife's
or a sister or what therelationship is, but you know,
the first half, why is thisperson here? And of course,
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they're there for a reason. Butoverall, it's a fun, enjoyable
film. Like I said, it islightning fast
an hour and 15 minutes. AndElijah Wood is fantastic, wow.
And Cusackgot a great, menacing voice for
this situation, which you don'tnormally think of, but when he's
(57:54):
saying in the movie, you'regoing, Yeah, this. This works
really well. This guy is, Ithink he will shoot his wife if
he doesn't do it soon enough, orhe will shoot him if he messes
up. But so it's a fun film thatsounds awesome. I have never
heard of this movie. Yeah, itsounds like you have seen it
too. Yeah, back when it cameout, I remember, I don't think
(58:15):
we saw it together or anything,but I think we were both like
this, pretty good, so enjoyable.
I'm glad i i picked, well, yeah,I did almost do gross point
blank, because I have notwatched that in a very, very
long time. I don't think I'veseen it since the wow, I saw
theaters. I mean, Ithink that's the only place I
(58:37):
saw it. Oh, that's a movie thatstill holds up? Yeah? Very well,
no problem. Exceptfor Mini Driver, many drivers
are right.
She had a weird Why are you sopopular? Yeah. But she also did
some good films. I know whyshe's popular. Her name is
Minnie Driver. This is the onlyreason we know her name or who
(58:58):
she is.
That'll workstudios named MIDI driver. No
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Okay, so that means it's mychoice for the next one, and I
had such a good time with theRaven that I was like, You know
what? What other historical typefilms could we go for? So I want
to go just historical. It canbe, it doesn't have to be 1800s
could be the 1980s for all Icare. But something that was
made in a present day but set ina past time. Awesome. So that's
(01:01:41):
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Anything else? Guys? Nope, okay,yeah.
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You guys come to you live on aSunday morning. Foggy Everett,
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sure is with an attitude forgratitude
in your am. Oh Lord, we got thetraffic out there. It's really
bad. We had some snow over thelast week. We did last week, and
that was kind of crazy.
And as you can see, I'm reallyembracing my senior citizen. I'm
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gonna go and try and get halfprice tickets at the movies. You
look very cozy. Definitely readyfor the early word special.
Here's why. This way, I gottasay, Eric, I'm not thrilled with
this old video taping thing.
Yeah, no, yeah, wearing White'snot
a holy cow, I am a big fat boy.
No, the iPhone bends the edgesso you bend the edges of my gut.
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It does. I'm not kidding, ifyou're near the frame, which
trade places with Vanessa there?
Yeah, you'll see you're gonnalook real tiny. He'll be way
shorter in frame, I look verytiny on this side, he does look
very short. I look like a littlekid at the end of the table.
You're basically eye level to usas you're sitting here. But on
the video, it looks like, I knowI'm like, way like, yeah, no, I
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never noticed because thegravity of my gut drags my eyes
over to it, and I'm just like,Why did I agree to this
bullshit? Well, now you lookcozy. I hope that black is
slimming. Youknow? What else is slimming
would be losing some weight.
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Oh my gosh, for me,the handsome gentlemen, diggity.
Anybody would go to prom withyou, you just have to ask.
I did have multiple prom dates,very different. I just know you
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have longer hair, lighter hairweighed about half, literally
half what I weigh now. I'mgetting
fat because my mom says, Stoptelling me that I'm a handsome
boy. Are you sure you justhaven't called her enough?
I have watched some stuffthough, you guys, oh, that's
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good. And today for me is goingto be an animation heavy
discussion. That is crazy. Iwatched on Disney, plus the
first, I think we're up to sixepisodes now of friendly
neighborhood Spider Man, ohshit. I forgot that was out. How
is it? It's fucking adorable. Ohmy god. And it's also, they're
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playing fast and loose with thestuff. So it's, you know, a
multiverse kind of thing. And infact, even opens up with a
doctor strangeappearance from a different
universe where he's doingsomething. So Peter Parker's
origin story is changeddrastically. I was like, Oh,
this is interesting, how they'redoing this,
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and it's very interesting to seewhere they're going with some of
the characters,Harry Osborn and Norman Osborn
play very different against typepeople in this show. And I'm
like, Oh, this is really, reallycool. It's got really neat
animation and very good voiceacting and a really neat story,
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especially if you're a fan andfamiliar with Spider Man, to go,
Oh, I see what they're doinghere. This is similar, but
different. And I gotta say, Ireally, really love it so, and I
think it's almost over for theseason already, so that's a
bummer. I think there's onlyeight episodes, no, okay, well,
I'm can't wait to check thatout. Yes, fill out the time.
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What the hell. The other thing Ithought was interesting, all the
posters and everything, thedesign is exactly the same as it
was when they first announcedit. But I don't know if you
remember when they firstannounced it. It was called
Spider Man freshman year. Yes,right? And now it is friendly
neighborhood Spider Man. Oh, sothey, you know, go, don't get
trapped next, next season.
That's what I was thinking,sophomores, yeah, it's only
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gonna be four years of thisshow. I guess he goes to
college. Is he in college at thelike, in this or is he in high
school? Feels very much highschool, okay, yeah, huh, yeah.
It's very confusing. I was whenI was reading the comic.
Um, like, there was like a prepschool version at one point. And
I was like, Are you in collegeor in high school? I don't know
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where you are anymore, becauseyou're learning intense stuff,
but you seem to be in highschool drama. So I think the
they've always pushed that he isadvanced intelligence, right? So
he's taking advanced courses,sure, in high school, yeah, so,
yeah, yeah. Well, I went lastnight and checked out love
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hurts, which is the new key HuaQuan movie,
okay, yeah, has a great lookingtrailer. Seems to be about a guy
who escaped a life of crime andbecame a realtor. Seems to be,
well,no, it sucks. Oh no, sucks. So
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bad. I was really sad about it.
Yeah, no, it's, um, it's a hugemess. Like, the whole film is
just a huge mess. Everything istotally, like, really whiplash
between, like, way over the top,violent end points, and then,
like, Haha, it's funny guys. Andyou're like, okay, that guy from
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play that conquers is here. Iguess that's kind of cool, but
you did rip out his teeth asecond ago, so that's sweet.
Yeah, that's like, where you'reswinging between. And there was,
like, comedy beats that werehappening in the trailer that
didn't make it in the film, andthat's fine, but there was just
a lot of like connective tissuethat didn't make sense. And I
think they knew it, because theyput in a bunch of voiceover that
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feels disconnected and random,but the girl who's like the love
interest in it, otherwise shewould like come across so
poorly. I think they had to doit, because otherwise she just,
it's like, why the fuck wouldyou like this chick? She's
awful. She's absolutely awful.
So I don't understand the endingof the movie at all and the
maybe skip this one.
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This is aAmerican production, or it's a,
I believe it's an American Ibelieve it's American
production. It's actually thefirst director, world debut by a
stunt guy, as far as director soI think he's just kind of
finding his sea legs, and he hasa lot of experience. He did
like, fall guy. And, I mean,this guy's stunt experience is
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crazy. He's done like 8080,credits, like Star Wars, stuff,
violent night matrix, all kindsof stuff, birds of prey, any
good stunts? There's a lot offighting. There's a ton of
fighting. I would say the stuntsare cool. I don't know if
they're shot in the mostinteresting way. And you do get
a little fatigued by thefighting at points, because
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you're like, I don't care. I'mnot invested enough to, like,
care about the fighting. Andthere's one scene where he's,
like, really protective of anitem, and you're like, Why do
you care about this item? Andthen you think that maybe the
item is going to be used forsomething. It's not.
Yeah, check off. Man. What abummer, because the trailer did
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look fine. I know we've all beenrooting for him. Yeah, I know he
does a great job, like he'sdoing every I think the actors
are doing a great job. It's justa really messy script, a really
messy film, and maybe directingcould have been stronger. I
don't know for sure, but, yeah,I'm glad I gave some money and,
you know, viewership numbers tosupport him as a lead, because I
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think he's great, and I can'twait to see him in more stuff.
But this film was, isit Marsha Lynch, yeah, the one
where he's the he's trying tokill him, or something like that
trailer, I don't remember. MaybeI'm thinking of the wrong film.
Yeah, you're, you might bethinking the wrong film. Oh no,
it does have Marshawn Lynch,yes. So he's, there's a bunch of
guys who were sent to kill him,and Marshawn Lynch is one of
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them. There was some behind thescenes stuff that would indicate
those two should get togetherand do like a rush hour thing.
That would be pretty fun. Theywere holy it's having a lot of
fun. Marshawn Lynch andand our lead, the lead guy,
yeah, oh, okay, because he'sactually one of the strongest
relationships in the entire filmis Marshawn Lynch, and the this
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white guy that he's in the carwith, and they're just talking
back and forth aboutrelationship issues. And you're
like, these two, I believe, Oh,good. Every other relationship
in this film. Do not believe fora second these two. The Best
Actor in a movie is Marshawn.
That's that's not something youwould expect to hear based on
the few things I've seen him actin. I was like, I don't know if
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I'd put him in a film at all,but also was shot shocked to see
drew Scott, I believe he's oneof the Property Brothers from
HGTV. Yeah. I was like, Who isthis guy? I was like, He's not
really handsome enough to be afilm guy, but he looks so
fucking familiar. And I waslike, Oh, my God, it's a
property. Brother, okay, I likethat. He's, like, one of the
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super pretty boys of those kindof shows. But for this, was
like, you're off it, yeah,totally like Hollywood. You
know, can only I finally havestarted to.
Figure out my new livingenvironment and how and when I
can watch stuff. So, yeah,finished silo. Okay, holy shit,
dude. I'd forgotten. I had aweird reminder of how large this
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series is, where I was inbookstore the other day, and it
had wool silo, and I think sandis the last one, all next to
each other's like, oh yeah,those are all huge freaking
books.
And I thought it was great. Iliked it. I mean, there's, there
are moments in any this deep scifi show where you're kind of
like, okay, I'll bend with yourreality a little bit. I don't
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remember specific. I justremember at times going, Okay,
you're, you're pushing thisfirst story. But I don't care.
Let's go.
But yeah, I really liked it.
What did, what did you guys,spoiler alert, what did you guys
think of the way it ended? Ihaven't seen the second season.
Oh yeah. It's very different.
It's really, yeah, they storywise. It's a very different kind
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of story. Okay, it does feellike that. Um, I really enjoyed
it. I loved, like, seeing morethe inner workings of what's
going up with going on with thehigher ups in the silo. And,
like, kind of what all thatI want to say, like, lore is
about. And, yeah, I like theending a lot, Silo, yeah, the
history of the silo, how peopleare, like, trying to manage the
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silo, what they actually knowabout the silo? Like being even
the top head person in the silo?
I really enjoyed that. I I'm alittle confused about, I'm
forgetting the black actor'sname, who's the sheriff, who
becomes a judge? Oh, yes, I theactor, rapper,
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common, common, yeah, I'm veryconfused about what common and
his wife are doing in thatbecause I I had a hunch, and
then I was wrong, and I waslike, I don't know what you guys
are doing in this like, like, Idon't know what their motives
and I don't know what their endgoals are. I think part of what
worked for me in exactly whatyou're talking about, is it
felt, to me, it kind of feltlike a married couple thing
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where they're kind of havesimilar things they want to go,
but they're looking at it fromvery different angles and taking
it from very differentdirections to achieve the same
thing, yeah. And normally, Imean, it's, it comes and stuff
drives me. It's like, just tellthe person what's going on. But
I thought that worked well inthis one to where the discovery
came naturally, but, yeah, Icould see where that would be.
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It's it's weird. How did youfeel about our lead, being in a
different silo and being so? Iknew that was coming, because
that's a huge part of the story.
She gets out and survives, andthat all that leads to so that
one, I knew there's, I've readit like, 15 years ago, 10 I
don't remember much, but yeah,little things like that they
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got, okay, I know, like in thefirst season, they're gonna find
the tunnels underneath, andthere's gonna be the water,
yeah? But the, a lot of thelittle intricacies, I not sure
if that's how it happened in thebook, but it, yeah, it feels
like the he was so blanked onthe guy's name who wrote it, but
he was so open with the seriesand it was so successful that he
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would just let people do fanfiction about it. So there were
dozens and dozens of bookswritten, and I read a few of
them, and some really good thatmight be the next. Sure,
totally, yeah, no. I mean,there's such cool plots going on
in the way that people changeand shift their perspectives in
this and trying to figure out,you know, the previous judge and
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what she was thinking, and withthe head IT guy like Tim Robbins
is so fucking good. So really,really good, amazing moments in
thisseason. Yeah, no, it was. It was
an incredibly strong, incrediblystrong season. I'm I'm stoked
for season three. I hope ithappens in like a year. It'd be
nice. You know how we're alwaystalking about Apple TV is kind
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of underrated. I went to see oneof our great listeners, band ran
Oculus, and Rick was with me,and he's like, do you have apple
plus? Like, yeah, man, I justgot it. And I've watched this.
It's so so many things outthere, so good. Yes, they are,
like, there's only 20 things,but they're all great.
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They will keep you occupied. Imean, I've watched a lot of
things. I just started slowhorses on there, and we'll see
how that goes. But I am prettyclose to up to speed on
shrinking and like, I'mforgetting about foundation. I
want to watch. Oh god, I keepforgetting about foundation too,
and for all mankind. But, yeah,there's like, cool stuff on
there. Yeah. Kelly's like, I'mbored. No, no. Back to silo. Are
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we with two seasons now, are wethrough the first book or we
don't think so? Okay, yeah, Idon't think so. Really. I
believe,wow, yeah, I know at some point
things change a lot, but thatmight be, I don't remember if
those book two or three. So Ibought, yeah, I bought the first
book wool, and I was reallyexcited. And I was like, I.
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Don't want to ruin the show formyself, so I didn't let myself
read it. So it's just sittingthere, and I'm like, do I just
want to read you now, but Idon't want to spoil it for
myself. Oh, so frustrating.
Thanks. Okay, yeah, that's silo.
It is on apple plus, along withall those other great things, I
haven't seen slow horses yet,but my brother was just telling
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me how much I would love it. Sonice. Yeah, I've only, I'm only
one episode deep, so contribute.
Okay, the other animated thing Iwatched, Eric. Did you see that
invincible as return? Yep. Oh mygod. I was thinking I almost
changed my second one to that Igot a bet because, after, like,
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but I didn't want to surpriseyou, because I bet that's what
he's going to talk about. Yes, Iwatched the first two and about
10 minutes of the third. Did thewhole thing drop? Or is it just
the first they're doing, like,they do, like, three episodes
and then one episode till, Idon't know, I think it's only
eight episodes again. So, yeah,did you have you watched all of
them then? Yeah, the beginningof the third episode was so
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cool, surprisingly touching,because those two are such
minor, honestly kind ofinsignificant characters in the
comic, but their story is neat,so to just kind of throw that
story in for a 10 minute littlesegment and make it so cool.
That was a really neat idea.
Yeah, there's a scene with twovillains, and it's got it scored
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with beautiful music, but it'ssilent, and they're just trying
to get along in the world, youknow? So they they have to do
crime. Eventually they try to gostraight and doesn't work out,
and all this stuff. And youknow, you're kind of feeling for
them, yeah, at the end, it's sothey do a great bit at the very
beginning where they're robbing.
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And he looks at that, he'sscared a little kid, yeah,
bothers him so. And then itjust, I was, I was like, I kind
of got to stop watching. Andthen they finally set up. Okay,
I'll come back watch the restlater. But, yeah, it's really
good. It's really good. It'sreally gory.
It's like, yeah, like, we justsaid, it's surprisingly
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touching. And a lot of therelationship stuff that is going
on there between the mother andthe son and the son and the
girlfriend, I'm like, Wow, thisall rings very true. Yeah,
really nice writing in this. Andthey also, I mean, they've
introduced, for me, the mostannoying character in the whole
show, but he's vital. It's hislittle brother, yeah,
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but, or in the whole comic, but,and it looks like they're going
to nail his character again,which is great. Yes, what he
should be, but, yes,yeah, it is, but he adds a new
level of conflict and stuff likethat. So I'm really, really
impressed with this show. It'slike you would expect the series
to be on a 300 issue comic book.
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It is streamlined a lot, butthey're hitting all the
important beats, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, really good. So, and thatis on prime. It is called
invincible. If you haven'twatched it, watch the first two
seasons and the new season,yeah, just it is the kind of
thing you need to watch inorder. Yeah.
Well, I saw another film lastweek, companion. Yes, getting a
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lot about it. Yeah, it's gettinga ton of hype right now.
I loved it. I just loved it. Idid too. My only complaint, and
I would say, If anyone thinksthey want to see this, please
don't see the trailer. Yep, I'veheard that several times
because I was like, I you knowwhat the movie is when you're
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going into it, but when it playsout, you're like, Oh, I really
wish I didn't know where thiswas going. What a beautiful
reveal. I would have probablyfigured it out fairly fast,
because the minute you put awoman in, like, beautiful, 1960s
glam, where I'm like,something's up, something's
amiss. But yeah, no, Idefinitely avoid the trailer.
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Avoid the movie poster, becauseI'm looking at that right now
and the poster totally gives itaway. Gives us away. So stupid,
but yeah, such a strong, funfilm. I mean, yes, considering
everybody in it is a horribleperson.
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Jack Quaid continues to impress.
Yeah,yeah. Just in, like, even the
like, side characters, I just,they were just all really fun.
It felt like they cared. Andeven though, like the like,
repair guy who comes out at theend, yeah, I was like, Yeah, you
go, you're cool too, you'reyou're all just cool. It just
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felt like such a neat versionof, you know, we've seen stuff
like that in sort of 1970sfeminist writing like Stepford
Wives and.
Okay, there's, there's otherthings that touch upon it. And
then there was recently thatmovie with Florence Pugh that
I'm forgetting the name of, thatI hated, and Chris Pine,
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with a similar kind of idea.
Yes, it is, don't worry,darling. Oh, is that what that
is about it's, no, I mean, it isand it isn't. It's a very
similar situation where you feellike there's a, you know, a
woman who seems to be in arelationship, where you think
maybe there's something elsegoing on, there's something awry
happening with, like, the wholetown has something going on with
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the women in it. And you'relike, What is the situation?
There's sort of something amok.
And I just felt like it fellflat on his fucking face. I just
hated, don't worry, darling. Idon't think it was a very good
movie at all, but I'm a huge scifi nerd, so I was also like,
cool. I thought the originalStephen wives was better than
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this. Like, Oh my woof. I mean,the evidence finds okay movie,
but anyway, yeah, this is acompanion, and Eric, you'll also
love it, but it is one of thoseones that would have been, you
know, like Abigail, it's like,why put the Vampire Princess in
the trailer and the poster?
Yeah, because it's just a reallynice reveal. I think between the
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two films I saw for Valentine'sDay, I would highly recommend
going to companion rather thanlove hers. I think it's a much
better V Day film thatsounds like something very
different.
So I was kind of in the mood ofwe talked before we on about
seeing good, feel good, kind offilms, and thought I saw one
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called I like movies which lookto be it's a Canadian made film
about a high schooler who lovesmovies and wants to make movies
andand you look like, okay, he's
kind of the the troubled kidwho's gone through some shit,
who you're going to see getredeemed by the end.
He's such an asshole through somuch of the movie, you find out
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there's a good reveal why he'sgot issues that helps. But
unfortunately, after that bigreveal, he doesn't get a lot
better. He stays being really,really mean, like to his mom and
boss and friends and all thisstuff. And the the redemption is
like the last five minutes, andby that time,
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too late, little too late, butit's a well done film. It's an,
if you like, natural realism ina film. This is really good. The
Acting all is all incredible.
The story's interesting. I justwish the most likable character
in the movie is probably themanager of the video store or
his mom, not him.
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So that's a problem, but it'sit's an incredibly well made
film, but it's hard to say, goout and see it. Is this a new
movie? Yeah, and it must be setin the 80s or something early,
2000sOkay, so video store, okay,
yeah. But, and they even pulloff, you know,
you can work for our company andhave a career for like, the next
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40 years.
But overall, I mean, it's just areally well done, simple kind of
film. I just wish they'dpushed him, because when he the
actor, when he becomes likable,is immediately very likable. So
obviously he's pretty goodactor, right? So it's like, God,
just tweak him a little bitearlier. But so it's good. I
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just it's hard to say you haveto watch this movie, unless
you've got, like, you know, ifyou really want that blockbuster
return and you really want this,it touches a lot. There's a lot
of stuff shot in a video store,the nostalgia, the overpriced
popcorn,the dues that are late after two
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days. And it's basically the, Imean, I like video stores. I
miss them, but also they'rethere. It wasn't perfect. It
wasn't a perfect time. Well,yeah, we've talked about it
before. My experience working inSuncoast, reading the trade
magazines about some of the shitblockbuster did, but, you know,
I'll leave that aside. Somepeople really love it.
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It's called, I like movies. Andwhat did you watch this on? It's
a rental on a few different Oh,I think Apple, like Apple TV
actually is where I watched it.
Oh,okay, well, cool. How about we
take a little break, and thenwhen we come back, we're talking
about John Cusack. Youteach your children well, he
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thought it was a game when hisparents taught him to identify
the smell of natural gas andtelephone the gas company for
help. He know.
Now that gas leaks a seriousbusiness more important, he
knows what to do about theproblem. If you think you have a
gas leak, call your gas company.
They're on duty 24 hours a day,teach children well.
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You now we have returned.
Vanessa, this was your topic.
Yeah, you chose John Cusack.
Never heard of it. Yeah, I know.
I knew this one would be achallenge for you guys,
definitely having existed in the80s at all, this would be really
a rough boom Bucha, for somereason.
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I don't know why, big, longbrown trench coat.
Yeah, no, I chose this onebecause we'd just been doing,
you know, popular named or, youknow, just named people. And I
thought I'd just kind of keepthat train going a little longer
there. And my sister was like,you didn't do John Cusack. And I
was like, fine. I'll do JohnCusack. See how you like that.
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Wow. Yeah, you're welcome.
I don't really like him, but I'mgonna do him just to spike. Oh,
wait, hold on. No, I like himvery much. Or at least, I have
definitely gone through periodsof being a big fan of John
Cusack. So yeah, and this was agreat excuse to watch 2012 from
2009 but before we get intothat, I would love to talk a
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little bit about John Cusack. Hehas starred in 91 productions.
He's a 58 year old man, sothat's a lot of films a year, I
guess.
Yeah, dad is a writer, actor,producer, documentary filmmaker,
Richard J Dick Cusack and hissister Joan Cusack also is an
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actor, and she's appeared in 10movies alongside him. He started
off in the 80s in things like 16Candles better off dead, which
we've talked about on the showbefore, and I think we're all
huge fans of Sure thing. Standby me and say anything. Then in
the 90s, he has stride with ConAir, gross point blank, The Thin
Red Line Being John Malkovich,high fidelity, many others. Then
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it kind of got rough in the2000s
I don't know how much do we wantto go into that, but he's
currently starring in Utopia. Ifthat is still going, I'm not
sure if it is right. I forgotabout that. Yeah, it was such a
fun surprise to see him in thereduring the famous just a couple
of fun little tidbits during thefamous boombox serenade scene,
and say anything, which is whateveryone knows him from. He's
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actually playing his favoriteFishbone tape in the boombox
while Peter Gabriel, song inyour eyes, is played in the
movie.
Cusack has been nominated forseveral awards, including Golden
Globe, for his role starring inhigh fidelity in 2012 he was
awarded a star on the HollywoodWalk of Fame. He won the 2012
Canadian Screen Actors Award forBest Performance in an actor by
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an actor in his role for map tothe stars, which I forgot he was
in. Oh yeah, me too, but yeah,just all around interesting guy.
I think there's a lot ofadditional drama, including,
like, his very outwardsayings about political things,
and there's, there's a lot ofother stuff with him, but
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follow my John Cusack, no idea.
Yeah, yeah. There's certainactors when you when they're
hot, heart throbs, and they'resort of on your radar, and then
they disappear for a while, orif something happens, you're
like, What happened to that guy?
And you're like, oh, oh, okay,do not look at Hugh Grant at a
certain point, what? Oh, allright, whoops. Sorry, sir. I'm
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gonna avoid that one. Why wouldyou ever cheat on Liz Hurley?
She's fucking hot, man, that'sfine.
Listen, you have steak everynight. Once a while you want a
hamburgerthe bottom of the barrel. Thomas
burger, in fact, just like, whynot treat yourself?
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You want to start talking aboutyour good idea. I'll put five
minutes on this strange eonsradio, buzzer, excellent. Um, so
like I said, I'm doing 2012which came out in 2009 you I
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remember shenanigans theaters iswritten and directed by, of
course, the great RolandEmmerich,
also co written with Haroldklosser. So it's when him and
Kloster were still talking toeach other, starring John
Cusack, chit Well, Escha forAmanda, Pete, Oliver, Platt,
(30:50):
Tandy Newton, Danny Glover,Woody Harrelson and many other
recognizable faces. Yep, I keptwatching it going, Oh, hey. Oh,
you, you're in this too. Oh, myGod, okay, you're here too.
The plot is, of course, likewith any Roland Emmerich film,
there's a lot happening at thesame time, but it starts off in
2009 the geologist AdrianHensley is visiting a friend in
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East India who's also ageologist, and learns that the
sun's solar flares are heatingup the earth's core. He returns
to DC to warn the government,and is directed immediately to
the President. A few yearslater, we see in the Tibetan
mountainside people are gettingbussed away because in China,
they're beginning an arcproject, which is being called a
(31:36):
dam project,the Ark tickets for whatever
this craft may be, whether it'sto the stars or to the sea, can
be bought for 1 billion Eurosper person. And then in 2012
struggling sci fi writer JacksonCurtis is a divorced limo driver
who is trying to reconnect withhis kids by taking them on a
(31:57):
camping trip to Yellowstone. Hejust can't compete with his
wife's new boyfriend, though,who is a fun plastic surgeon
guy.
While out on Yellowstone, theystumble into a large military
encampment when trying to lookat a lake that is seemingly
dissolved. And he meets Adrian,the geologist, who is a huge fan
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of his book and seems to be oneof maybe 20 people who actually
bought itwhen they are released from the
military and kind of like, don'tcome beyond the fence guys, they
encounter Charlie Frost, who isa crazy radio DJ slash
conspiracy theorist who warns ofan end time coming now in LA
there's been a series of littlequakes that seem to hit a fever
(32:40):
pitch when in the grocery store,his ex wife, Amanda Pete and her
boyfriend are having aconversation, and a giant rift
opens between the middle of thegrocery store and creates a huge
cavern splits the whole buildingin half. And so she calls her
kids and says, Come home,please. Jackson brings them
back. And when he returns towork in his limo driving ways,
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he goes to pick up his ride, aRussian billionaire client who
apparently has bought tickets toget away from LA and is leaving.
And his kids are like, Well, youshouldn't be a dick to us.
You're just gonna die See youlater. And he's like, whoa, wait
a minute. Oh, shit, theconspiracy theorist, maybe he's
(33:25):
right. So he rushes back to hisfamily, just in time to save
them from the entirety of Lafalling into the ocean. They hop
a plane and another plane andanother plane.
Meanwhile, the tectonic platesare shifting, and Jackson must
use everything at his disposalto save his family and get them
safely to the ark, then find away to enter the Ark unseen.
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There are many, many othercharacters and side plots going
on in this film. Sothis was way better than I
remember it being, oh, really,yeah. I remember watching it and
being like, I feel like thisisn't my favorite Roland
Emmerich, but I felt that wayabout White House Down and now,
having seen Moon fall andindependence day
(34:09):
too, these are way up there now,so pretty good, although 30 to
40 minutes too long. COVID down.
A lot of Yellowstone, a lot ofthe arc stuff, a lot of the
plane high stuff. It feels likethere's just a lot of repetitive
stuff and things that just keepgoing the disaster. So much
disaster, so unrealistic, soextreme. Love it so good.
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President is killed by fuckingaircraft carrier dude. I mean,
come on, look. He's juststanding on land in DC. Giant
tidal wave coming towards himwith the Kennedy aircraft
carrier going to smash his faceso good, he's like, I'm coming
home dead wife.
(34:51):
Oh, my God,but dead kids in this film make
me very sad. I apparently can'tdo that very well in movies and.
More, just a little bit oftrivia. I know I'm out of time,
but the script is based on theearth Crust Displacement Theory
from Gran Graham Hancock'sFingerprints of the Gods
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Emmerich was hot shit fromIndependence day and day after
tomorrow, and had no issuesgetting funding. He actually
came in under budget for thisfilm. The tagline was, we were
warnedcreate disasters of the galactic
alignment in 2012 were supposedto have occurred in december 21
the day of the solstice, but thefilmmakers decided that the move
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to move the events up a fewmonths to mid summer, because
they didn't want to have todecorate the sense sets for the
winter holidays. The film wasbanned in North Korea because
2012 marks the 100th anniversaryof the birth of the first great
litter leader Il Sung Kim.
Several people were arrested forwatching pirated copies of the
(35:54):
film.
John Cusack ad libbed the line,the guy's an actor. He's reading
a script when talking about theCalifornia governor who appears
to be a caricature of ArnoldSchwarzenegger on the TV, the
original line of the screenplaywas the governor's a meathead.
He could, how could he knowanything you got to trust me
over some politician. Come on.
And he felt the line would be abit too hard on Arnold
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Schwarzenegger. I was like,that's interesting. I wonder if
y'all are friends, or I wouldsay that his improvised line is
a little harsher girl, I guessit's a little harsher on
politicians. Yeah, I think so.
Or, like, I don't know. I guessit could feel like maybe he's
just saying he's not a very goodpolitician at all, and all he is
is an actor. Butyeah, it's, yeah, it's hard to
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know. Roland Emerg said thiswould be his last disaster
movie. He liedthe character Jackson Curtis is
the real name of 50 cent. CurtisJackson backwards. Roland
Emmerich is a big fan of therapper 50 Cent, and wanted to
name his lead character afterhim. There was a TV spin off
series planned that was going tobe called 2013 it ended up being
canceled, but they thought theywere going to pick up on the
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disaster related programmingafter lost finally finished,
but decided not to do it in theend.
So should have given us way lessstory and more of the trivia. I
didn't know any of this stuff.
That's kind of wild. I knowthere's some grace, I know, and
I felt like I cut the truth. Icut the story down. So much, so
(37:26):
much. But nonetheless,I unironically love this movie.
I think it's pretty great. I sawthis in the theater. Not
remember the people who end updying being the ones who ended
up dying? Yeah, I was prettysurprised. I was like, what? You
fucking die? Oh, shit, you dietoo. Whoa. Okay. Yeah, I
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remember liking I think this isgreat. It's fun, great cinema,
but that's exactly what itshould be. It's ridiculous. Over
the top action. Just go, yep,I'd be fine with Emeric just
going,Look, I know what I am, and I'm
just going to remake the 70sdisaster movies with bigger
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budgets and bigger stars. Yeah,one of the trivia pieces is that
they drive the limo when they'regoing through LA through a
falling building. That's thesame building in an earthquake
from the 70s. So, yeah. So it'slike, he clearly just loves this
stuff, yeah? Like, fucking lethim do that forever. But Moon
fall was obviously,I told you the last time that
(38:31):
the most unbelievable thing iswhen Cusack flashes his ID and
it says He's 29 years old. And Iwas like, come on, John,
Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
I do also like that. This is thesecond film in which John Cusack
plays a limo driver.
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Damn your type cast to a reallyspecific Thanks, sir,
Eric. If you don't mind, I'll gonext. Dive in. All right, I am
talking about a film from 2012called The Raven.
Dear God, get the inspector.
His crime is familiar to me.
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Edgar, Allan Poe, to what may Iattribute the honor of your
call. The night before last, ayoung girl and a mother were
found murdered.
The daughter's body was lodgedin a chimney. The mother's head
severed with a straight razor.
You're referring to one of mystories, a work of fiction. I'm
(39:37):
afraid I am not. Doyou actually think that I've
murdered these people? Whatcannot be disputed is your
imagination is the inspirationof a horrendous crime. I love
you. Edgar, be careful.
I believe the killer is tauntingus. I
challenge a brilliant detective,mind the red girl and Paul
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again.
Name of wits. If I will killagain and on that new corpse, I
will leave clues.
As unfortunate as this is, youmay be uniquely qualified to
cast light on our killer,the pit in the pendulum. Are
there other stories in thecollection
(40:23):
specifically about murder?
I'm afraid so.
His killer is methodical. Hewants us to know he's gonna
strike again. Idare you to try to save your
beloved's life. IHe will keep her alive to keep
you involved as part of hisgame.
(40:58):
No matter how this ends, I willkill him.
I'd even say this is probablythe last good cue second. It
(41:21):
is directed by James McTeague,who has 12 credits, including V
for Vendetta, Ninja Assassin andbreaking in and written by
Hannah Shakespeare, which is ahard name to live up to. Writers
11 credits, mostly TV episodesof sinner, the whole truth, the
philanthropist. She created andwrote the series killer women.
(41:41):
And it is also written by BenLivingston with this is his only
writing credit, but he has 76acting credits, mostly in parts
that have names like GM,executive number two or
investment baker or auctioneer.
I can see him in my mindalready.
Sorry. John Cusack, 91 credits,including Stand By Me broadcast
(42:01):
news and Hot Tub Time Machinetwo,
also starring Alice Eve, who has53 credits The Haunting of the
Queen Mary bombshell and 10episodes of Iron Fist. And Luke
Evans, who has 54 credits,including Clash of the Titans,
Robin Hood, and he is the badShaw brother in the Fast and
Furious franchise. Remember?
Yeah, he's also in 18 episodesof The alienist. Have you guys
(42:24):
seen the Raven? No, no,mother. Okay, this was one of
the two that I was looking at,the one I ended up doing. And
then, okay, all right, okay, themovie opens in 19th century
Baltimore as the police, led byDetective fields are
investigating a horrible murderscene that seems to resemble a
murder in the fictional storymurders in the room or written
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by one Edgar Allan Poe. Thismovie takes place near the end
of Poe's life, and at this time,he is a social outcast and
penniless drunkard whose storieshave not been circulated for
some time, and he has fallen inlove with a beautiful young
socialite named Emily, and theywant to wed, although her father
is very much against this.
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Detective fields recruits Poe tohelp him with the case. But then
another murder occurs, aliterary critic who was a public
rival of Poe's, and the man iskilled with a pendulum that
slices him in half. And it nowbecomes apparent there is a
serial killer who is killingpeople in the manner of deaths
from Poe's horror stories.
At this murder scene is left ared demon mask, an obvious clue
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that the next murder will occurat a ball in the manner of the
mask of the Red Death. And theonly ball coming up is being
thrown by the father of theyoung woman Poe wants to marry.
The police ask her father tocancel the ball, which he
absolutely will not do, but hedoes agree to let undercover
police patrol the party to makesure nothing happens. Something
absolutely does happen, andEmily is kidnapped. It is
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revealed in the kidnappers notethat he will kill Emily if Poe
does not start writing columnsfor the newspaper that describe
the brutal combination of factand fiction of the murders,
forcing Poe to write one morestory, Perhaps his greatest
story.
So the movie then turns into thekiller, staging all these murder
scenes that the police alwaysmiss him at and Poe having to
(44:15):
document the scenes with adramatic flourish, all while
trying to save Emily, who hasbeen buried alive somewhere with
a very limited amount of oxygen.
This movie is a blast.
Gucci really throws himself intothe role, and even kind of
resembles Poe enough to make itsuper enjoyable.
Oh my gosh, yeah. Little bit oftrivia. The film posits a
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fictional representation of thelast days in the life of Edgar
Allan Poe. In reality, no oneactually knows how Poe spent his
last days. His death beingshrouded in mystery. He was
found delirious on the streetsof Baltimore in on october 3,
1849 wearing clothes that werenot his own, and on the night
before his death, he wasreported to have repeatedly
called out the name Reynolds. Hedied on October 7.
(45:00):
1849 as depicted in the film,all medical records, including
his death certificate, have beenlost. Whoa Edgar Allan Poe only
made $9 for his poem The Raven.
However, in 1845 $9 would beequivalent to approximately $300
today. Cool. First trailer forthis movie was released on
October 7, 162years to the day after Poe's
(45:22):
mysterious death. Wow,in the film Edgar Allan Poe has
a pet raccoon named Carl.
He did not actually have a petraccoon, but there is a Japanese
manga called Bungo stray dogsfeaturing a character named
Edgar Allan Poe that had a petraccoon named Carl. The manga
series launched in 2012 the sameyear as the film. It is unclear
(45:46):
if one inspired the other.
Awesome. What a weird extrathing to do. That's cool. And
then at one point, SylvesterStallone had tried to set up a
rival Poe biopic. He had RobertDowney Jr
lined up to star in it. And yetRobert Downey goes on to be
Sherlock Holmes indeed. And thisis after Robert Downey Jr had
(46:11):
his comeback, because Iron Manwas 2010 so he's hot shit again.
Speaking of what's just a littleaside, I do want to hear
whatever questions you haveabout this. I watched Kiss,
kiss, bang, bang, for the firsttime. Really, the first time.
What the fuck? How did I missout on this? No, everybody's
talking about Donald good. Thatmovie was Shane Black, yeah.
(46:33):
Really good. Anyhow, this moviereally good. I can't believe you
guys haven't seen this. TheRaven. It is available on
prime I think Max. And to beWow, uh gosh, so did they put
him in, like, po Oh, tire withthe hair, the mustache, and
fuck, he looks like he has done,like, some research, because
(46:58):
there's a lot of times wherehe's just kind of making a face.
And I'm like, That's the facethat we all know Poe from. And
he, his acting, is just fuckingsublime in this. I saw this in
the theater, and I rememberliking it, watching it this
time. I was like, he this shouldhave been a big comeback for
(47:18):
him. And I think instead, thiswas the last of his good films.
That's too bad. Yeah. I mean,poet, like, the story of Poe is
so fascinating to me because,like, that period of art in
America, I mean, the streetswere all like mud, and it was
the small little towns whereeverybody knew each other, like,
throw just went into some woodsthat were like
(47:40):
a stone's throw outside of themain city, and he's like, I'm
going off. And people are like,again, all right, dude, see you
in a month. Bye. Do you needanything? Yeah. So it was that
same kind of time so, and I knowthat I had heard that Poe might
have been killed by he was in anopium den, and they used to drag
people out of the opium dens toforce them to vote in different
(48:03):
ways, and that he might havebeen part of that. Were they
Interesting? Yeah, I also hadheard that he might have the
same affliction I do to wine,and he might have actually been
allergic to it. So when he usedto do public readings, he would
have a glass of wine rightbefore just to loosen himself
up, and then he would be like,staggeringly drunk on stage,
(48:25):
which might have actually beenan allergy. That's interesting.
Yeah, they they tie in themysteriousness of his death very
nicely into this film, so that,you know, it is explained why
he's wearing somebody else'sclothes and the name he is
repeating and all this. And Iwas like, this is really a very
clever little movie thatdeserves a little more
attention. Yeah, I think it wasalmost like a, do you know if it
(48:47):
did well financially? I don'tthink it did well financially.
Yeah? Because I feel like,remember it coming out and
people being like, stupid, yeah,yeah.
We went where po lived when wewere there in Baltimore that one
time. That's cool, yeah. How wasit? Very tiny,
what you call impressive, but itwas cool.
(49:10):
It made us wonder ifEdgar Allan Poe landlord would
just get frustrated with himsome nights and be like, Fuck
the police.
Give me a time here. Oh, my God,no, we need to start tracking
whenever you make that joke,that's at least the third time.
(49:31):
Listen, nobody laughs at it. SoI'm gonna say it and tell people
laugh at it. Never got itbefore. Good God, Eric, would
you like to save me? Yeah, sure.
Five minutes, my brother, weseem to be very
packed together on time whenyours came out much earlier, but
(49:54):
it was 2012 yours was 2012 No,it came out 2009
Yeah, mine was 2012 and mine was2013 Oh, okay, so right around
it, so maybe not his last goodmovie. Oh, okay, but I'm doing a
movie from 2013 called grandpiano. You.
(50:30):
You're late, Tom, you have toskip the hotel and go straight
to the auditorium. Okay, it'sabout time you got back on
stage. I love you.
Tom, you're alive. That's thegreat. Tom Selznick, Tom
Selznick, you Rachmaninoff, ifonly he didn't chunk Hey.
Very funny.
I'm gonna scrap it London. Iknow it.
(50:53):
Congratulations. The whole placeis packed,
ladies and gentlemen. TomSelznick, you
(51:14):
get back on stage now, you knowthe meaning of stage fright. You
you to try it.
For help, and I will hear it.
Get a guard involved. I willknow it. If you do any of these
things, your wife will die, playa wrong note and you will die.
I'll giveyou all the money I have. I want
(51:36):
your money. I want you to playthe Most flawless concert of
your life, you Igot your attention.
(52:09):
Don't disappoint me. Tom,and this, I still check out the
tomatoes to see if there'ssomething interesting. And this
is just like the last one Iwatched. The critics really
liked it and the public reallydid. It's like 80 to 40. Oh,
wow. Like, damn, but this was amovie, yeah. This is available
(52:31):
to rent multiple places,directed by yoshina Marat, who
did Garcia, the birthday fade. Idon't know much movies
written by uh Damien Chazelle,who has written some pretty good
movies. La, La Land. Oh,Whiplash, Babylon, that's all
(52:55):
the same. Writer, yeah, The LastExorcism, part two. Oh, my God.
Starring, yeah, starring ElijahWood, who is definitely the
person carrying this film. Yeah,might know him from back to
future Part Two, the good sonand flipper. He's one of the
kids playing the video games.
Did not know that. It's wild.
John Cusack, I mentionedprobably my favorite film from
(53:18):
him was cross point blank. Yes.
And Carrie Bucha, who is in Argored state, and Madame Webb
variations there. So the moviestarts with a dramatic moving of
a piano out of storage, andElijah arriving in Chicago for a
show that he is terrified to dohe does not want to play again,
(53:41):
because the last time he playedpublicly, he screwed up. They
don't actually show what he did.
But apparently he played verypoorly and messed something up,
bad enough that when he arrivesat the venue, the some of the
orchestras kind of ribbing him alittle bit and avoiding him.
Most of the people are nice, butyou can tell boy whatever it
was, so he hasn't played. Theysay he hasn't played in five
(54:03):
years publicly, and hissuperstar wife has an actress,
is bringing him back to perform.
So he isreally worried, because he's
playing on his mentor's famouspiano, and is afraid he's going
to screw up again because hismentor composed notoriously
(54:23):
complex pieces to play,including one which he is not
supposed to play this evening.
There's some weird setupmoments, though, because he
arrives in Chicago, gets in alimo, not John Cusack driving,
gets to the venue,doesn't meet anybody, doesn't
(54:45):
touch the piano, no rehearsal,no working with the he clearly
hadn't been there before, so hedidn't work with the orchestra.
And that's like, this is alittle strange, just as far as
the.
Structure of the way live musicshows are put on, but it
certainly moves the story at abreakneck pace, that's for sure.
(55:10):
So he starts to play in hisrehearsal, or is written in red
blood or red play one note andyou die.
And this can be one wrong note.
Yeah, play one wrong note. Youdie.
Andthis continues through a couple
other points, and eventually, atsome point, he puts in an
earpiece, and that's where weget John Cusack. He is, he's, he
(55:31):
doesn't show up physically inthis movie till, like, near the
end, but he's in the wholething, kind of a memorable
sounding voice, yeah, easy torecognize, but, and he shows
that he's got ahigh powered sniper rifle ready
to take him out. He does take ashot to prove it, and
(55:56):
then movie takes off from there.
And it's kind of like, if you'veever seen phone booth, it's
similar concept.
One odd note in the movie, theend credits are 12 minutes long,
meaning the run time of thisfilm is about an hour and 15
minutes. Whoa. Oh, wow. So youknow that's kind of nice.
Elijah did learn to play thepiano, sort of. He learned to
(56:20):
mimic where fingers would go,but he actually
isn't making the music.
It does feature the song, 10happy fingers, from the 5000
fingers of Dr T by Dr Seuss, whowrote the lyrics for the song,
but obviously not really singingit.
He only spent three weekstraining to do that the
(56:43):
but it looks great. It looksincredible.
The other one,but he Yeah, so they edited, put
together so we always looks likehe's playing it really well. The
whole idea is John is a guy whothis piano has a secret, and
John wants to unlock thatsecret, and he can only do it by
playing his most complicatedcomposition perfectly. Oh, nice
(57:10):
it is.
You know that the beginning Italked about pulled me out of
the movie for a little whilegoing, What the hell kind of
weird will I perform?
Performances? Andthere's a character that's
really annoying the I don't knowif it's a friend of his wife's
or a sister or what therelationship is, but you know,
the first half, why is thisperson here? And of course,
(57:33):
they're there for a reason. Butoverall, it's a fun, enjoyable
film. Like I said, it islightning fast
an hour and 15 minutes. AndElijah Wood is fantastic, wow.
And Cusackgot a great, menacing voice for
this situation, which you don'tnormally think of, but when he's
(57:54):
saying in the movie, you'regoing, Yeah, this. This works
really well. This guy is, Ithink he will shoot his wife if
he doesn't do it soon enough, orhe will shoot him if he messes
up. But so it's a fun film thatsounds awesome. I have never
heard of this movie. Yeah, itsounds like you have seen it
too. Yeah, back when it cameout, I remember, I don't think
(58:15):
we saw it together or anything,but I think we were both like
this, pretty good, so enjoyable.
I'm glad i i picked, well, yeah,I did almost do gross point
blank, because I have notwatched that in a very, very
long time. I don't think I'veseen it since the wow, I saw
theaters. I mean, Ithink that's the only place I
(58:37):
saw it. Oh, that's a movie thatstill holds up? Yeah? Very well,
no problem. Exceptfor Mini Driver, many drivers
are right.
She had a weird Why are you sopopular? Yeah. But she also did
some good films. I know whyshe's popular. Her name is
Minnie Driver. This is the onlyreason we know her name or who
(58:58):
she is.
That'll workstudios named MIDI driver. No
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Okay, so that means it's mychoice for the next one, and I
had such a good time with theRaven that I was like, You know
what? What other historical typefilms could we go for? So I want
to go just historical. It canbe, it doesn't have to be 1800s
could be the 1980s for all Icare. But something that was
made in a present day but set ina past time. Awesome. So that's
(01:01:41):
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