June 5, 2025 • 64 mins
324 SCI-FI 2010s!
We're running out of decades to do sci-fi films from! OR ARE WE?
Also discussed: Freaky Tales, The Pit, Drop.
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Yeah, the new one will be good, I hope. Oh, I'm sorry,
did I break your concentrationsomewhere between science and
superstition,such sights to show you.
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Strange eons. Welcome to strangeeons. Radio. That's Eric over
there. Hello. That is Veniceover there. Hello, and I am
Kelly boy guys. This is ourfirst episode after taking a two
week break, and I feel so muchmore rested. Okay,
you wanna do some jumping jacksor something like,
you know? The other day I wasthis is for the video watchers.
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The other day I was driving downthe road, and I see this kind of
crazy looking guy on the side ofthe road, and he's kind of
dancing around and all thisstuff. As I get closer, he makes
eye contact, right? He startsdoing this, yeah, all right. So
I gave him one of these. Shoutit back to him. He
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goes. Put me in a delightfulmood for the rest of the day.
Incredible. Wonder. How manypeople he did that too, before
he got a good reaction. Oh, mygod,
yeah, I would not have made eyecontact. So I'm very happy for
you. Well, he was,he was dancing quite,
quite physically. He was allover the place, and I couldn't
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stop looking. And then he, youknow, he obviously knew he
looked right at me. I was like,fuck, why don't I have tint
windows? Oh, boy, you guys, Ihave seen some stuff, and I know
you guys have seen some stuff.
Let's talk about the stuff wehave seen. I don't know how I
wanted to feel about this film,because I don't quite know how I
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feel about Finn Wolfhard, thekid from, uh, Stranger Things.
Sure, I I think he's an unlikelysex symbol, quite different way
of putting in person. Yeah, no,oh, go ahead. He's also very
precocious. He's got a band, andhe made a movie. And I watched
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this movie, okay? It is calledHell of a summer. Oh, and it is
a camp slasher flick about it's,it's horror comedy, which is
always tough, and this is notvery funny, and it definitely
suffers from dialog that iswritten by a young person. You
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know, let's face it, you don'twrite good dialog until you've
lived for a while and actuallylisten to how people talk. So
there's a lot of fuckingexposition in every single
conversation and stuff likethat. And and it's, it's
directed by a young filmmaker,not necessarily in age, but in
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experience. Yeah, soI would say this is
like by the books Friday, the13th type stuff. There's an
attempt at a twist that is, isreally easy to see coming if,
even if, you can't tell who it'sgoing to be coming from. And so
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I, I don't know you're sayingpass, I would say that. You
know, my problem was, I don'tthink much of this kid. And so
when the movie wasn't great, Iwas kind of like, what did I
expect?
Yeah, I kind of, I give him alot of room as an actor. I feel
like there's potential for himout there, but in my head, he's
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still such a kid. I just yeah,when I saw it was like a film by
okay. I mean, he's fucking 22years old or something now, and
he has lived his entire life infront of us. Yeah. So I'm just
like, I kind of hate that, thatidea of, you know, I had to
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struggle to make this, you know,I'm like, You didn't really have
to struggle to make this. Youhad to become the actor that you
became, yeah, that was goodenough to suddenly get on the
biggest show in the world. Butthat opens a lot of fucking
doors. Yeah? Oh, for sure. So Idon't know hell of a summer is a
rental,pure mileage may vary. Yeah,
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wow. Hell. Yeah. Well, I saw thenew HBO, HBO series, the pits.
HBO Max again, yes, okay, now itis HBO Max. No, no longer Max.
The Pit. This is a medicaldrama, right? Yes,
it's a medical drama. It's,yeah, it's set up like 24 so
each one's hour by hoursequentially. It's Noah Riley.
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Riley from er is reprised, and,in fact, the creator of ER is
back as well, making this showit is so fucking good and
addictive. Don't Don't watch oneepisode, unless you have time
and you just want to loseyourself in something for a
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while, because it was like hardto stop watching and it has a
hefty number of episodes. Ithink it's something like 12 or
15 episodes. It's, I love thatthat's now a lot of episodes
felt like a lot compared to, Imean, it feels like return to
traditional I know, I know. Itwas really funny hearing people
be like, What an incredible,unique format. And I was like,
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What are you talking about?
There were so many seasons of20. Does anyone remember Alicia
Cuthbert? Come on, people. Butno, but it is extremely good. I
think that, yeah, like, justreally emotionally interesting.
I love the medical stuff.
There's a lot of PTSDemotionally from the lead
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concerning how COVID went down,and as things start to get
stressful and worse and worse,he keeps kind of tapping into
this, like, helpless, horriblemoment that he flashes back to
from COVID where, like, everyonearound him is dying, and
everything's, you know,confusing, and he's covered on
all the suit and anyway. And ofcourse, like people who are
coming in have interestingmedical issues, it's just, it's
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a real adrenaline junkie showwith a lot of cool little
twists, some of which you seecoming, some of which you don't
and, yeah, I just really enjoyedit. So
I've read or watched somethingon that. It is one of the most
medically accurate shows ever.
I heard that too. I mean,obviously it's a lot that
happens in a smaller amount oftime than probably would, sure,
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because drama, but at the sametime, I My best friend is she?
She was a ambulance person. Whatdo you call them? EMT, okay.
Thank you. Sorry. Yeah, you'rewelcome. EMT, and so her and my
friends in high school, theywould like study like in the the
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hall, hallways of the highschool, doing all their medical
textbooks and getting ready fordifferent kinds of things,
because they all wanted to gointo that profession. And I was
like, not me. Good luck. Enjoy.
So having been, you know, aroundthat kind of universe, it was
really fun, not fun, butinteresting to see all of this
stuff. And very Yeah. I haven'tseen it
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yet. I really want to, but itkind of reminds me of, it looks
like, I don't know if you'veseen the original ER with this
show called Code Black. Oh no.
That only lasted maybe a seasonor two. That was incredibly
intense. Really, one doubt theidea of a code black being an ER
is so busy that they cannot takepeople anymore. And it's
supposed to be like the based onthe inner city, la hospital, or
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something that enters CodeBlack, more than any other
hospital in the US.
That is 100% what this is like.
It's like the ers begin youbegin with it overflowing and
just them trying to make a dentin it. It's just, yeah.
Monumental your mention toois, I'll toss this out see if
maybe I can get to you to watchthis yet. But your description
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reminds me of a medical versionof the bear. Oh, sure, the first
season of the bear. At leastthere's a couple things. There's
a couple episodes that havehappened as the bear goes on
that just pushed me out becausethey were so intense, yeah, and
so uncomfortable to watch them.
Like, okay, you guys are reallygood at what you do, but you're
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actually almost too good. Butthat first season, Yeah, fucking
brilliant. Anyways, I've seenlike, two episodes of the bear.
I just have to be ready mentallyto return, and I'm not
that was called the pit and itis on HBO Max.
HBO Max, no longer Max.
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Yes, update your update yourapp. Yeah, not just Max. Not not
max. HBO Max.
Yeah, it's good to see acorporation that obviously
really has their shit togetherand knows what they're doing.
It's not TV, it's HBO. See, thatwould have been where they
should have stuck with 40 yearsof a certain kind of style.
Anyways. So I watched a film bya person I know, friend of mine
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from he had two or three filmsat cryptocon. See. Out all over
the years, and I don't knowwhere it's living now, last I
heard, I think he's living likeSouth Dakota, but I don't know
if he's still there, directed byJeremy Brown and Mick strong,
who I think I've met. Butanyways, a movie called solitude
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just came out on for rental atall the usual places. And it's a
story of a reality show wherepeople are alone in the woods
and they have to survive. Andthe the idea is there's
something weird in the wordswoods, something Well, it starts
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with Windigo is the openingmoment and pretty low budget.
Some the lead lady, Nicole Appleline does actually a really
solid performance. Some of theothers are, they're all good.
There's nobody like, oh my god,get off the screen now. But the
the leads performance moves themovie forward. Overall, pretty
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damn good. He's got a style Ifind interesting, so that helps
a lot. I would say, if you'renot a watcher of reality shows,
I don't know what, if this maybug you, because it's got that
reality show style of talking tothe camera and other things like
that going on. So maybe it's notfor everybody, but the just well
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done, well done, low budget filmwith set in largely one
location. There's a secondarylocation where the where the
budget kind of shows, becausethere's a very small group of
people working on this show, butit seems like there a few more
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people, maybe, but. But, youknow, you do what you can when
you got a low budget that you'redealing with, but looks really
good shot on the red, I think,edited on Da Vinci, so at the
end, going alright. But so ifyou're if you're interested in
low budget indie films that arewell acted and overall well
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done, and you don't mind realityshows, I would say definitely
check it out. That's why Kelly,maybe it's not going to be one
for you. But I think Jeremy didsomething pretty good, and he
did a short film one time thatthere's just a slow burn zombie
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thing that I really, reallyliked. Glad to see. He's
working, getting it done. Keepgoing, man. Where is this
available in lots of places. Ithink I rented on Apple. It's on
Amazon. It's it's got a prettygood distribution, because it's
on most of theplaces you can rent cool. It's
called solitude. Um, okay, which1am I gonna talk about here? I
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think I'm gonna talk about drop.
Oh, okay, heardof drop? Yes, but
have not seen it? I have. Thisis about a woman who goes on a
first date with a guy, andthey're in a really cool tower
restaurant, and she startsgetting these messages dropped
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to her iPhone, and pretty soon,these messages are telling her
that she has to try and killthis guy that she is on the date
with, or her son at home isgoing to be killed. And these
messages include videos of theperson in her house and stuff
like that. And if she tries todo anything, they're just going
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to kill the kid immediately. Soit is one of those almost real
time movies, once this partstarts, where she is trying to
not kill obviously, and andstill make the guy think that
she's going to be able to pullthis off, it's it's not horror,
I guess it would be thriller. Itdidn't completely work for me,
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but there were moments that Ithought were really, really good
and engaging and and then thetitle, I thought was
interesting, because it it meanstwo things in this film. So I,
you know, it's a rental, and Ithink it's really well acted and
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well written. I think I wantedjust a little more out of it.
But I'll be honest, I don't knowwhat else I could have wanted
from it. It's done fine. It justleft me going, there was
something I needed in here thatI didn't get, kind of
sounds like that piano, one thatI talked about a couple of weeks
back where it's like, it'sreally good, but it to something
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right there, but very similarpremise.
Yeah, so this was, this was,there are some funny moments in
it, and there's some reallystressful scenes where I was
just like, Oh, holy shit. And itdid make me go, what would I do
in this situation? Because Ithink I'm, I think I'm too much
of. Pussy, and I would just belike, I'm calling the cops. I
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don't know what else to do. Sothen they kill my kid. Problem.
He was five years old. Howattached
make another one? I definitelywas pretty interested in seeing
this film, but just, I thinkthere were other things in the
theater at the same time, justcouldn't quite make it work. So
it's exciting to hear that it'savailable to stream now. Yeah,
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torent. To rent. Yes, yeah. Called
Drop Excellent.
Well, I watched a film that I'vebeen meaning to watch for a
while called we live in time,which I thought was going to be
a like a sci fi romance withtime travel in starring Andrew
Garfield and Florence Pugh. It'savailable to stream right now on
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max for free. Inscience fiction time travel, it
is not,Oh, okay. It is just a I think
it might, maybe it's based on abook, just like a story of a
couple, and it's sort of toldroughly out of order between how
they met, how they fell in love,got married, had a kid, and then
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she's she is undergoing cancertreatment, but is also a famous
chef at the same time, andtrying to do this like Big Chef
competition, it's a real pieceof shit. No, I don't know why
it's told out of order. There'sliterally no payoff to that.
There's maybe, like, one momentin the whole film where I was
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like, Oh, this is kind of cool.
Like, I like how you're doingthis one thing, but most of it
was just frustrating becauseyou're like, This chick is like,
dying, and instead of spendingtime with her family, and she's
like, I'm gonna try to win thisvery specific award for doing
chef stuff, and she's just beingvery selfish, and it's, it's
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hard to care about herreasoning. You just kind of want
her to stop being an asshole,and you don't really care about
that their relationship thatmuch, like I just didn't buy
into their relationship thatmuch. They're both great actors,
but I just this film just feltso pointless. Wow, yeah, I was
really bummed. I was reallyhoping for, like, a nice, like
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rom com, or even just a romance.
And it just was. It left meemotionally wanting.
It left this reviewer, God,yep, wow. Well, that's a bummer,
because I always, I am reallyrooting for Andrew Garfield to
make some kind of comeback. Butyeah, he did great in Tick, tick
boom, which was, that's right onNetflix that was amazing. So I
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think that he's like, floatingaround out there. People know
he's extremely good. It's justthese projects. Man, don't do
this fucking book adaptationbullshit. Wow. I guess maybe he
saw Florence was, I don't know,I don't know who decided first.
And they were like, Yeah, let'sdo this film together. We're
both British. Great.
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Choose better projects.
That's a pass. I guess alreadywe live in time, all right,
today, one called freaky tales,yeah, I've been curious about
this. I reallyenjoyed it. It's a lot of fun. I
think it was a couple ofepisodes ago. You'd mentioned
you're ready for Pedro Pascal todo, like, a dark scene, or dark
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character he does in this one.
I've seen this. Okay, you saythat that he's really good at
it. Like, going, yeah, he couldcarry a movie as a villain. It's
like, yeah, not a super villain,but a non Wonder Woman, like,
yeah, yeah, there you go. That'sjust want
to clarify fair point, okay,but so the idea is there's four
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kind of internet, interconnectedstories, loosely interconnected,
but there's no wraparound storyor anything like that. It's not
like an anthology, per se, butall taking in place in Oakland,
California in the late 80s. Andone is Pascal's cherry. One's
about a bunch of punks doing ashow which gets interfered with
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by Nazis. And then the other oneis this basketball player who
does this amazing, amazingending scene, which is just
ridiculous over the top and alot of fun.
Yeah, I wanted to know a littlebit more. I should have done a
little more research on this,because the basketball player is
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the name of a real basketballplayer from back, and that real
basketball player cameos in thefilm sleepy Floyd. Yeah, Joe
Floyd, or something like, Yeah,but you're forgetting that
there's also a throwaway segmentof two female rappers having a
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rap battle with two short. Art,yeah, in a in a sequence that
didn't make sense with the restof the movie. It
was a fun scene, but, yeah, itwas definitely not inter Yeah,
even loosely intertwined withthem, yeah? So
what about these tales arefreaky?
That is an interesting thing.
The the final tale is definitelyfreaky, but there's a loose wrap
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around idea that on thisparticular night there was this
green light that was something.
And so you'll see greenlightning in the background
every once in a while. And thereis a odd at the end of the end
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of the rap battle, there's anodd nod to repo man, yeah, where
this bus glows and then fliesoff and
Marshawn Lynch just makes hiscameo appearance. I and I
was like, was that MarshawnLynch? She didn't even get a
line. But the weirdest thing is,this is written and directed by
the filmmakers who did CaptainMarvel. Oh, this is a very low
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budget film written by somegigantic creators, and it's got
to be a passion project thing. Ithought it was really uneven,
but I liked Pedro's bit, and Iloved the basketball one, yeah,
those are the best. The thingis, is that, like, the first one
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with the punks and theskinheads, I was like, oh boy,
the acting is a little rough.
And I was just like, okay, am Igonna like this? And then the
second one I didn't like and andI was, you know, I hate that
I've become such a Pascal that Iwas like, I'm just gonna hang
out for his segment, which wasthe only reason I even watched
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it and, and it was really good,with a very surprising cameo at
the video store.
Yes, that was like, Oh, okay.
But But then that last segmentis so fun and cool that I was
like, Oh, these guys pulled atitanic on me. You know, the
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Titanic movie sucks, but thelast fucking 30 minutes of it is
is two people getting chased bya guy who's trying to kill them
while their ocean liner issinking. It's like, this movie
is fucking awesome. That's how Ifelt at the end of this freaky
tales, I was like, God, thismovie is great. I kind
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of like the first one a littlebit because I had a very brief
foyer into that punk world.
Yeah. Me too. And so I was like,Oh, this is kind of fun, but,
but I'd actually had completelyforgotten about
the battle. I mean, overall,it's definitely worth watching.
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Oh, yeah, I have a feeling thisturns into a cult film.
Oh, it's very, very easily acult film, because literally
nobodyis talking about this. And I
think five years from now,people stumble upon it, you
know, somewhere, and they'rejust like, oh, this movie is
fun. Whenthere's also people, I think,
will look at segments we didn'tlike, and that'll be their
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favorite segment very easily. Imean, if you're a huge rap
battle fan, it's a decent scenefor a rap battle, right? But
then you know that. But Whatyear was this? Is this real
recent? 87 Oh,when it takes place, 24 was when
it was released.
I think it just did a festival.
Yeah, finished a festival. Yeah,trailers.
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Butyeah. I mean, if it was our year
wrap in it could probably be a2025, film. Because I think,
yeah, just hit big release.
Is it, um, streaming freeanywhere, or is it still a paid
for rental? I hadto rent it. That
sounds right. I think it's likethe $3 rental range, though. I'm
gonna have to Amazon, somethingslow mo, and then get my $2 and
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rent this movie for $1.90Well, that's going through
Amazon. And you know the weirdthing I've done with the Winnie
the Pooh movies and all thatshit, the Popeye movies are out,
and a couple of the others, andI looked at that, they're like,
$13 rents. I'll wait on those.
You'retalking about, the ones that
have become public domain. Yeah,hold off on those, because
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someone at this table might havedecided that that's going to be
his topic. Coming up shortly isthose public domain films,
maybe after they're not $14 orat least have a good reason then
to spend money on it.
Yeah? So freaky tales, I wouldsay, is a recommend. But I would
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also say you will probably bethinking, I wonder what these
guys liked about it, until youget to the Pedro Pascal Yes, one
which is, which is just betteracted by everything.
Yeah, the. It. I He's, it'sobvious, you know, you've got
the actors that elevate thepeople around them, yeah, he
obviously is that kind of aperson to where, I don't know,
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you know, a little bit better,he seems like the kind of person
that was working with somebody,he's working with them, yeah?
And so, like, the scene with thelady in the car was, yeah, her
acting was really good. And hisand,
yeah, the other, the other kindof surprise actor showing up in
this is Ben Mendelsohn, and thatguy is a fucking powerhouse
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actor too. So he, he reallyelevates the scenes he's in,
yeah, and there is some kind ofinteresting intertwining of the
stories once you get into thethird and fourth story, where
you start realizing, Oh, thepeople there are part of this
story and stuff like that, yeah.
So it's worth a watch for sure.
Yeah, definitely. I'm glad thatyou saw that. Okay, how about we
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take a little break, and thenwhen we come back, we're
continuing with sci fi as we getinto the 2000 10s
transformers, Dark of the Moon.
Action is here with all new mechtech figures. I'm in control
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auto versus the cell a vehicle.
You spy when I get it, then myhands are robots in disguise. Me
to get through ready to set thecomms, my phone, change the
record, shift the kids, I'malways in control. Give me any
vehicle,and I'll show you a robot in
disguise. New mech tech figureseat so definitely changed. I may
vary. Transformers. Hello.
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Let's see who's called thestrange eons radio hotline.
Oh yeah, quick attendance to theother film industry, though. So
I think Seattle might also havethe problem that if housing is
expensive, as Atlanta is nowrunning into that, because
housing used to be dirt cheap,but now something like 30% of
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the single family homes here arebought up by rental companies,
and the rent is just off thecharts. So if you weren't
already in about 10 years ago,then you're just not going to be
able to sustain it. So I justthought I'd throw that in the
pot. Thanks again. Hi guys, it'sMicah again in a rare Cooper.
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But since I'm down in Georgiaand I was intrigued by your your
conversation about the Seattlefilm, figured I give you this
one from about a year or so agowhen I was at a bar in noonans,
which is down near where theyfell on The Walking Dead, and
there was this incredibly drunkguy there who turned out to be
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the ED trainer for a really bigstudio that I'm not going to
name, but it figured out inGeorgia, and he was wasted
because he'd been told that awhole production was going to
London. And then he proceeded totell me about how a whole bunch
of productions were all beingmoved to London because they
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were they were offering hugeincentives, which is probably
what Seattle thing is thatthey're offering refunds instead
of incentives, which I thinkthat gives a lot of companies.
Pause, but it was, it was quitea thing. And I've got plenty of
friends in the VFX businessaround here, and they're all
scrambling to figure out how todo other things right now. And
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one's working for DoorDash. Thatsucks. So yeah, that business is
contracting hard here. But yeah,wow, that's a Counter node. But
otherwise, yeah, things aregood. See you later. Bye,
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and we have returned, motherfucking
rage if we have to talk abouthousehold repairs, man, it's
going to be half an hour of mejust going this was
after some confusion. This wasmy choice.
It was indeed to make it easyon myself by choosing sci fi
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movies of the 2000 10s. So Iwill start us off with that in
mind. Give myself five minutesand I am talking about from 2012
Chronicle. You're probably goingto want to get this on camera.
You thebrain. I don't want to do it,
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dude, I don't want to do it.
Okay. Are you ready do it? Giveme a countdown. I will. I
promise. Arewe rolling? Let me get the gum.
I. Whyare you ready? I got this one,
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sweet, sweet, thisis my theory, though, is that
it's like a muscle. Watch thisdude. Holy,
it's why I think we're gettingstronger. You know,
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yes, it was the black guy thistime,
working it out. There's nothingstopping us. Where you going,
somewhere that could help usthis guy's problem.
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Was it an accident?
Andrew, Andrew, listen to me. Wecan't screw around with this.
It's too dangerous. Andrew, it'snot a game stop this right
now, just making the headsounds ah, what is that? Steve,
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wait up. Matt, look at this.
Holywe've all seen Chronicle. Nope,
yes, you haven't seenchronicler. Oh, interesting,
okay, directed by Josh Trank,who, after this, directed the
Fantastic Four reboot thatfailed mightily, and Capone,
which basically killed hiscareer, written by Josh Frank
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and Max Landis was writtenAmerican Ultra Victor.
Frankenstein, bright shadow inthe cloud. He is a good writer
and a horrible humanbeing. Oh, I would say he's a
bad writer and a horrible movie.
I liked all those movies,really? Yeah, Victor
Frankenstein. I liked VictorFrankenstein. I thought it was
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fine. Woof. Okay, carry on.
I need five movies. You pulledout one. They all said it was
probably the least of them. Ilike shadow in the cloud quite a
bit. I liked American Ultra alot. Okay, so this stars Dane
DeHaan, who was Harry Osborne inthe Andrew Garfield Spider Man
movies. He was also in a curefor wellness, Valerian and the
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city of 1000 planets,Oppenheimer and just recently on
American primeval. This alsostars Alex Russell, who was in
bait. He was in the carryremake. He was in under my skin,
and 129 episodes of Swat. Andlittle known young actor named
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Michael B Jordan, who was inCreed, Creed two, Black Panther
one and two. And just recently,sinners. So Eric, we are
introduced to Seattle highschooler Andrew, who's having a
hard time at home. His mom isdying from some unnamed disease,
and his alcoholic father beatshim regularly. To start
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combating this, he has picked upa camcorder and started
recording everything about hislife. Yes, this is unfortunately
found. Andrew's cousin Matt hasinvited him to a rave to help
him meet people, but he's therefilming everything, and that
gets him kicked out prettyquickly and leaves the party
dejected. But a few hours later,he's approached by Steve, a
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popular jock at the high school.
Steve is friends with Matt, andthe two of them have found
something weird and want answerto record it. It is a strange
hole in the ground, and whenthey all go in, there is
something in there giving off analien light, and it quickly
explodes with light, and theboys scramble out. This is their
superhero origin story, asthey've all gained telekinetic
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powers, but when they start toover exert themselves, they get
horrible nosebleeds. Theyrealize, though, that their
powers increase as they use themmore often. So they start
hanging out and practicing oneach other. It's probably the
best part of the movies you getto watch teenage boys acting
like teenagers with telekineticpowers. They they throw rocks at
each other with their minds.
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Contests who can build thefastest Lego structures and pull
pranks on unsuspecting people,good fun, that is until Andrew
kills a guy in a road rageincident, and now everyone is
freaked out. They make a set ofrules to never use their powers
against living things. Andrewand Steve even enter the school
talent show and do a bunch ofimpossible tricks, which turns
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Andrew into the coolest kid inschool, and he was finally
invited to a party with thepopular kids. And that is, of
course, where everything startsgoing wrong. In a carry type
situation, he goes on adestructive killing spree, and
only his cousin Andrew can stophim, or can he. This movie was a
lot better than I remembered,and the. Fact that Seattle looks
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a lot like a South African citydidn't bother me as much this
time around,some trivia. Director Josh
Frank, Michael B Jordan and AlexRussell live in a house together
for 15 days in order to createsome kind of bond between the
three actors. The screenplay forthis film was featured in 2010
blacklist, which is a list ofthe most liked unmade scripts of
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the year. Shockingly, theoriginal story would have the
trio become psychopaths becauseof their powers, but it was soon
changed at it as it was too darkand also would not really make
sense to the plot. Also, this isnot shocking when you realize
who Max Landis is at 27 JoshTrank was the youngest person to
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direct a film that opened atnumber one at the box office.
The previous record holder wasSteven Spielberg, who was 28
when Jaws opened. Wow. Afterthis film grossed 10 times its
budget, Josh Trank found himselfin high demand by major studios.
He was attached to a number ofprojects such as Sony's long
gestating Venom movie, a StarWars spin off focusing on Boba
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Fett, an adaptation of Shadow ofthe Colossus, a film based on
the image, a film based on theimage, comic book Red Star, and
a reboot of Fantastic Four, heultimately chose Fantastic Four,
a critical and commercialfailure that nearly ended his
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career in 2019 after Max Landiswas accused of sexual and
emotional abuse by multiplewomen, Josh Trank tweeted, I
100% believe every word of thisarticle about Max. I banned him
from visiting principalphotography of Chronicle, and I
haven't spoken to him since 2012Wow, by the way, Josh Trank
career is pretty much stalled,but Max Landis continues to
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work. Yeah,I have a little bit of
interesting BTS info on tranq,which is so around the time he
was doing Fantastic Four, I knewa sound designer who is, I think
it was at Sony at the time, and,yeah, he just imploded on that
set, and he made a little tent,and he hid in it, and he
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wouldn't come out and thendrink, yeah, and then they
brought on producers tobasically finish the film, and
they wanted to keep it hushhush, because they didn't want
the public to find out, and itwould plummet, because if they
were like, the directorbasically didn't exist, and then
he went to the internet and waslike, they stole my film and
tanked it himself. That's whyit's a big old mess, and it
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makes zero sense.
Yeah, that is actually publiclyknown. Yeah, big article written
about how poorly he acted onset. He's too young. He was
given a gigantic fuckingproperty. It's
way too big, yeah, for like, togo from chronicle to the I feel,
I do feel bad for him. I thinkthat that was a really rough
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situation. Theunfortunate thing then, though,
is he does Capone, which is notas big, and it's still a really
horrible movie. So is it, yeah,I think that this was kind of a,
you know, unfortunately, youknow, Max Landis wrote an
interesting story.
I think, yeah, I think somehow agood story came, because
chronicle is a great film. But,yeah, I don't think that those
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filmmakers are necessarily goodfilmmakers, but Michael B
Jordan. Michael B Jordan isthere you go. He steals
the camera Limelight in this.
Was this his first film? Yeah,because I remember watching this
and be like, That guy's kind ofcute. He's kind of he's kind of
watchable. I don't know who'sthis dude
again, because if you thought hewas kind of cute, he is a kid in
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this I was looking I was like,God, boy, this guy has grown up
to be a very handsome man, butyou might not have believed it
back then,really, you know, he's just got
that charisma. Yeah, Ithink there's also some to be
said. As far as director, thedifference between some can do
both some can't between a foundfooted film and a lockdown, sure
film with sticks. It makes it.
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It's a very different style,having a crew versus, like,
having, you know, your friendyourself
and a couple. Yeah, it's sodifferent, different. So I could
see, yeah, that'd be too bad hecouldn't handle it, but that
would be a Wow. What atransition. Holy shit.
Vanessa, you want to go next?
Sure.
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All right, so I went with a filmI had not seen, which is from
2011 the film in time youallow me to introduce my mother
in law, Clara, my wife,Michelle, and my daughter
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Sylvia, whoa, who's the rest.
Never left a quota. My Units areup from last week. So is quota.
Just one something to make a bitmore time on my end than hours
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in the day.
How old are you? 28 I'm onefive, but the day comes when
you've had enough. If you had asmuch time as I have, what would
you do with it. Sureas hell wouldn't waste it.
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The last time anyone saw himalive, there was over a century
on this clock, well, all thetime. His name is Will Salas.
You can't hide 100 years in theghetto. You know that time I'll
get you killed. Hey, Mom, I'mgonna get out of here. I just
wouldn't know what to do if Ilost you. Don't
believe we've had the pleasureof your company before. Miss
turn Salas. Will Salas, I'msorry to have to bring up the
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party, Mrs. Weiss, I just needto work
with your friend. This is myday. Why they're keeping me
alive. Canyou live with yourself watching
people die right next to you.
You don't watch.
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Close your eyes. Take them foreverything they've got. Come on,
come on. Help yourselves. Takethe time and treat you. Put
enough time in the wrong hands.
You upset the whole system.
Let's hope so. If this works, wegot to get more. I can help you
get all the time you want. No,come in the kitchen. You his
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crime wasn't taking time. Hewas giving it away. Seeing the
poster bopping around here andthere, thought I'd check it out.
Had a budget of 40 million boxoffice 174, this is written and
directed by Andrew Nicole, whoyou would know from Gattaca
Simone, Lord of War, and wroteTruman Show starring Justin
Timberlake from you know, beingJustin Timberlake also the
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social network inside Lou andDavis SNL and trolls as branch,
and then the self bam,good lord. Amanda Seyfried,
because I'm happy anyway. AmandaSeaford from 77 credits,
including Mean Girls, mamma miaLes Mis Twin Peaks, the return
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and Cillian or Killian Murphy.
Killian Murphy 63 credits,including 28 days later,
Inception, Oppenheimer and PeakyBlinders. And also has in it
Olivia Wilde, Johnny coleckifrom the Big Bang Theory, Ethan
Peck, Spock and Vincentkathizer, who plays Pete
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Campbell in Mad Men. The storyis in 2069 I know people are
born with an embedded timer.
When they turn 25 they are givenone year of time, which becomes
basically a currency. Theirminutes are used for things like
coffee. Are used to get the bus,any basic thing you would use
cash for. Instead you use timefor and you, of course, have to
earn a living. When their timeruns out, they immediately die.
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So they must find ways to stayalive. Many people live a while
and never but they never age.
They never look older than 25the Truly Rich people
essentially become immortalbecause they can just keep going
and going going. People live intime zones according to their
wealth. This keeps the rich richand the poor poor. Another big
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differentiator between the poorand the rich is that the poor
run everywhere because time istoo precious. They also don't
sleep in or engage in timewasting activities, except for
going to the club. Will Salas isfrom a poor neighborhood, living
with his mother and day to day,basically owing money to all
kinds of time lenders. He worksin a factory and is living in a
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ghetto, but is a clearlygenerous guy. He gives time away
to little girl around this downthe block, he offers to help
people out around him. Afterwork, he goes to a club, and he
sees Henry Hamilton, a 105 yearold man who has a century of
life on his clock and islavishly giving time away and
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buying drinks for people. Willwarns him that the Minutemen, a
local mafia, will come and killhim if they see him act like
this, basically, they'll rob himof all this time. The man
doesn't care. And when theMinutemen arrive, the man is
clearly out of his league. Willhelps him escape to a hideout in
a warehouse where they stayovernight. They have a long
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conversation about the meaningof life, and the man tells will
that there's a conspiracy tokeep the poor poor and force
their time to run out so theyhave to die. And. There is
actually plenty of time to goaround meanwhile, of course, the
bridge can live forever likehimself, and he says it's not
natural, and that he basicallywants to die the next morning
before will wakes the mantransfers all of his life to
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Him, then wanders off into themorning to sit on a bridge and
die. He leaves a note to will,saying, Do not waste my time.
Will is excited to share histime with his mother, but due to
a miscalculation of timing andthe bus raising its rate, she
dies before she gets home. Yep,will decides to destroy the
system and goes out of his timezone to the richest
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neighborhood. He admits himselfwithin a bunch of bankers, and
he intends to take the wholething down. But meanwhile, the
Timekeepers, aka the police,find Henry's body. Will becomes
the prime suspect. They catch upto will at a party while he's
flirting with Sylvia, thebanker's daughter, who feels
that life is pointless and isthrilled by Will's free spirits.
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When the police arrive, he takesher hostage, and they go on the
run. They return to the ghetto,where they're robbed of all but
a few minutes, and she learnshow to value time. They then
basically become a futuristicRobin Hood, Bonnie and Clyde,
robbing the rich of their timeand breaking by breaking into
her father's banks and givingaway to the poor. This is a
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pretty dramatic shift from a scifi story to Bonnie and Clyde
like, Whoa. Okay, the plot isgone. Here we are. That's fine.
It's it knows what it is, and itgoes into it. I don't know why
their solve isn't to justdestroy the whole mechanism.
That's very strange to me, like,I don't know why they steal time
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instead of just killing thedevices and the reason why
people are forced to live theway they are. But that's okay.
There are a crazy number ofrandom people who eventually
become famous. The guy who goeson to play Spock and brave new
worlds is is her like bodyguardwho says nothing. I just kept
looking at people being like,Wait, you're famous, you're
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somebody, you're funny, you goon to be in the Big Bang Theory
is like the lead. You're justthe geeky friend here. Killian
murky has a very goofy run.
Amanda Siegfried has to run inhigh heels the whole time. And
it's fucking stupid. It's justdumb. I don't I'm not in love
with this film, I feel like,because everyone is 25 or
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younger, you just don't get thequality of acting. And there is
a weird uncanny valley whenyou've got, like, Olivia Wilde
as his mom and she's hugginghim, and you're like, did you
guys just sleep together whileyou're in the same place? Oh,
you're with his mom. Okay, cool.
Like, there's just some weirdthings going on. Killian Murphy
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does a great job, but it's stillit just doesn't quite support
the film. I don't think it's aman amazing. I won't say too
much more other than the writer,director Andrew Nicole has
called his 2011 film in time abastard child of Gattaca, a also
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sci fi writing, writer HarlanEllison launched a lawsuit
against new Regency and directorAndrew Nicole, claiming that the
film's plot was an uncannysimilar similarity to a short
story repent. Harlequin said thetalk men initially, Ellison was
seeking an injunction againstthe film's release, when which
he watered down to request foran on screen credit. Ultimately,
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the case was dropped with nomoney exchanging hands between
the parties, both sides,releasing the following joint
statement. After seeing the filmin time, Harlan Ellison decided
to voluntarily dismiss theaction. No payment or screen
credit was promised or given toHarlan Ellison. The parties wish
each other well and have nofurther comment on this matter.
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Harlan got a special call in themiddle of the night drop this,
sir.
I think he saw it and went, Oh,actually, this isn't my movie at
all. I don't wantmy name on this.
Never mind. Walk away slow. Ihaven't seen
this, but I knew they'reprobably curious about it. It's,
you know, I don't know it'sworth checking out. I I didn't
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hate it. I just, I wasn't crazyin love with it. You know, I
think Justin Timberlake,did he bring sexy back for you?
I was never that. Ended upJustin, he wasn't my guy,
not a JT fan. I was notmy roommate in college. Was big.
Posters, everyone. There you go.
Yeah, Eric,you ready? Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Five minutes. Okay, so 2013brings me Upstream Color. I
do you know this place I want tosay, yes, for you I want to is
(49:53):
there? Is there a direction thatyou feel I'm gonna go wherever
you go. I. You know that you'rescaring me a little bit. I feel
like you know,won't let anyone near that.
There's a crowd back in thecorner, violent. I've never seen
(50:15):
the parents behave so they canget very protective.
(50:39):
The bar before you is somehowspecial. It is better than
anything you've ever tasted.
Each drink is better than Thelast. Take A drink now.
(51:49):
Which I did not know existeduntil I was looking through
this. Yeah, and I as soon as Isaw who directed it, I'm going,
I'm watching this. It's directedby directed and written by Shane
Carruth, who did primer, okay,and another thing called
Breakthrough. And God knows whyhe hasn't done more movies, I
(52:11):
don't know. Is an actor who'she's also acts in this he was in
Swiss Army Man, the girlfriend.
Experience, everything andeverything and everything, sure.
Amy cements, who is in petcemetery. Stranger three
episodes. Stranger thing. AlienCovenant, and you're next. And
Frank Mosley, who's Shoot theMoon between the eyes, go fuck
(52:33):
yourself. Oliver and 109 othercredits or Oliver shit. Okay, so
this is starts artsy. There'sthat sci fi music note, the
single note, that's sort ofascending and descending and
like, Okay, I've heard thisbefore long, drawn out sounds.
(52:54):
Still sounds cool, but all thesesuper tight shots with one image
in the middle of a blurry thing,you know, very, very seen artsy,
but still looking really good,telling some weird story of what
this guy seems to be harvestingplants or maggots or something.
(53:15):
The next moment is there's twotree two teens who drink
whiskey, looking liquid, andclose their one closes their
eyes, and the other guy startsdoing gestures, and the other
person matches him perfectly,not being able to see him at
all. So they do this againlater, with a similar situation,
(53:35):
setting you up that whatever isgoing on with these maggots is
generating some kind ofcommunication between these two
people. So he decides thescientists are kind of the
scientist decides he's going toget puts two in capsules to go
out and find someone to takecontrol of, and gives it to a
(53:59):
woman, which leads to thethought of uncomfortable things,
but thankfully, it does not gothere. It keeps it him just
stealing all her money. See, hegets her to write her mortgage
off to him and all the cash shecan come up with, including a
bunch of, like, rare coins orsomething like that.
(54:23):
And once that's done, he takesher to this
doctor kind of thing, who takesthe the worm has, you know,
grown, and there's some grimstuff of her trying to figure
out what's going on after shecomes to and he takes this worm
out and implants it in a pig.
There's some uncomfortablescenes with pigs in this film,
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just in case you're inclined tobe worried about that kind of
stuff. But from there, itbecomes this very odd thing
where people. So you come torealize all these pigs are
connected to people in the realworld, and he's basically
observing them. And somehow,when he sits with the pigs, he
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sits with the people, it's wild,and two of these people find
each other, which you know,leads to problems for him, and
it's really good. Sothese people don't know that
they're connected to theseExactly, okay?
And it's just smart, just likeprimer, it's incredibly smart
(55:39):
filmmaking, which may lead toanswers or may not. They just, I
mean, absolutely, if you likeprimer at all, this is a film to
check out, because it's got thestrain. It's incredibly well
shot. The acting is insanelygood. The I
(56:04):
it just works. So I am really,really thrilled that this is the
one I watched, probably the bestone so far. I It's because it's
interesting and kind of likeprimer. I think I only watched
primer once, but I never stoppedforgetting that film, and
luckily, umbrella just came outwith a very cool back set of it,
(56:25):
which I need to watch.
It's premiered. It'spremiered at Sundance in 2013 in
January, and did get a smalltheatrical release, but that was
self distributed by thedirector, and he made a quote
about everything, about thechoice to do the do the
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distribution is aboutcontextualizing the movie like
sounds like the guy who writesthese deep thinker movies lives
a deep thinker life. So yeah,Upstream Color, highly
recommended, available through afew places like rents and stuff
like that. But if you like thethe weirder side of sci fi, the
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hard to figure out what's goingon. Go on a journey. Art House
movie. This is definitely wantto check out.
Vanessa, you've clearly seenthis. Yes, didn't
like it at all. Lookslike I think I've seen it three
or four times really. I hatethis. Why the hell was she
watching again? Because people Ihang out with were like, We
(57:33):
gotta watch Upstream Color. Isaw it in theaters, and then I
saw it with several times, withfriends, and I think I just kept
hoping I would get somethingmore out of it. But to me, it
feels very pretentious. Oh, it'svery pretentious. Yeah, it's
hard. Primer is verypretentious. I don't like primer
either. So that's, there's a biglike, it's me, like, I accept
(57:55):
that. It's not necessarily thefilm. It's just for me. I just
find it intolerable.
I think this also came up withthat series of those guys we
like so much who did all theLovecraftian stuff. I can't
think of thenames, but Dennis and yeah,
Benson and Morehead. We bothreally like bunkers. Can't
stand there's find a shot guys.
(58:19):
Yeah, this those films, thoseall grouped together, yes, very
well, as far as that kind ofstuff. And I like all,
I mean, it's adventurous night,and I appreciate that. I just, I
feel, I feel like they're tryingto be too cool for themselves. I
think that's what I getfrustrated with, is I'm like,
Cool. You found this shot thatmust make you feel very special,
(58:41):
like it's not adding anythingfor me.
Well, that's the same of everydirector who ever made a movie,
ever. Well, yeah, guarantee youthat,
yeah. But when you find thatshot, when you're hoping the
shot helps the film or thestory, and I feel like upstream
color is beautiful, but therewas a lot of there's a lot of
sitting and waiting and just iBut I'm glad that you watched
(59:04):
it. I'm glad you found it, andI'm glad you like it. It's just
for me. I it was not it was notthe film for me. Personally, I
can imagine sitting I feel likeI have sat at a bar and drunk
and hung out with filmmakersabout my age, about my
experience level, doing goingout there, making their movies,
and it's like they are soexcited about their own idea
(59:25):
that they lose sight of the ideaof having an audience, or the
idea of, you know, it did? Theyfeel very they're very proud of
themselves, and they're verycool, and they're very like off
the grid. And I think that's myfrustration is. I'm like, okay,
good for you. Lars van Trier,Lars, material, sure, yeah,
(59:45):
okay. And I've seen a lot oflarge keep
hoping I'll like him more than Ido. Sometimes
I like a thing here or there,but, you know, I agree like
it's, it can be, it can be,definitely very tough. I mean,
the whole dog. A 95 crew canjust, yeah, yeah. That's this
very similar frustration to me.
It's like, why are you puttingthe restrictions on yourself?
(01:00:07):
What's so cool about it, like,what are you achieving by having
no lights and no, you know,tripod? And
the house that Jack built waskind of the one that almost
really, I'm done watching hisstuff because people loved it so
much. And we're talking abouthow it's, like, the creepiest,
most disturbing film I've everseen. I can't believe and he
(01:00:28):
does dark shit. I think there'sone creepy scene and two really
cool scenes, but I'm like, Oh,this is really boring film.
Sure. Yeah. So yeah,I get that I just happen to
really likethose two, yeah, no, I'm and I'm
and there are a lot of peoplewho do like, I was just talking
to my husband, and he was like,We gotta watch primer. And I was
(01:00:52):
like, you will watch that byyourself. Enjoy. He's like, I
just bought the box that. I waslike, I know you did. That's
awesome. I'm good for you, dear.
I'm really happy for you. That'sgreat.
I'm gonna go over here and watchthe Godzilla movie from the 90s.
I surewill, and I will love it. I
didn't expect all those eggs inthat stadium. That was great. I
(01:01:12):
got the Taco Time cup. I'm happyas a clam. Perfect.
Eric, I thinkyou have the next I feel like
something different, truly,deeply, incredibly different.
We're going to go back to thedecade that almost mastered
speculative science fiction, the1970s Yes, say the 90s.
(01:01:40):
No, never again. Destroyed,spectacular science
fiction of the 70s. This isgonna lead us down to, like, the
60s and the 50s.
Were there science fiction filmsin the 10s? What about the 1890s
Well,Frankenstein was one of the
first films. It's like eightminutes long, or something like
that.
(01:02:02):
I mean, yeah, we'll get prettywe'll get into short territory
at some point, butI'll ride this pony as long, as
far as it'll take us.
Yeah, I like this idea a lot.
I've got this little indie up mysleeve called Star Wars. Oh,
you're gonna do that. I see howyou are.
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Yeah, the new one will be good, I hope. Oh, I'm sorry,
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Kelly boy guys. This is ourfirst episode after taking a two
week break, and I feel so muchmore rested. Okay,
you wanna do some jumping jacksor something like,
you know? The other day I wasthis is for the video watchers.
(00:55):
The other day I was driving downthe road, and I see this kind of
crazy looking guy on the side ofthe road, and he's kind of
dancing around and all thisstuff. As I get closer, he makes
eye contact, right? He startsdoing this, yeah, all right. So
I gave him one of these. Shoutit back to him. He
(01:19):
goes. Put me in a delightfulmood for the rest of the day.
Incredible. Wonder. How manypeople he did that too, before
he got a good reaction. Oh, mygod,
yeah, I would not have made eyecontact. So I'm very happy for
you. Well, he was,he was dancing quite,
quite physically. He was allover the place, and I couldn't
(01:45):
stop looking. And then he, youknow, he obviously knew he
looked right at me. I was like,fuck, why don't I have tint
windows? Oh, boy, you guys, Ihave seen some stuff, and I know
you guys have seen some stuff.
Let's talk about the stuff wehave seen. I don't know how I
wanted to feel about this film,because I don't quite know how I
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feel about Finn Wolfhard, thekid from, uh, Stranger Things.
Sure, I I think he's an unlikelysex symbol, quite different way
of putting in person. Yeah, no,oh, go ahead. He's also very
precocious. He's got a band, andhe made a movie. And I watched
(02:35):
this movie, okay? It is calledHell of a summer. Oh, and it is
a camp slasher flick about it's,it's horror comedy, which is
always tough, and this is notvery funny, and it definitely
suffers from dialog that iswritten by a young person. You
(02:58):
know, let's face it, you don'twrite good dialog until you've
lived for a while and actuallylisten to how people talk. So
there's a lot of fuckingexposition in every single
conversation and stuff likethat. And and it's, it's
directed by a young filmmaker,not necessarily in age, but in
(03:26):
experience. Yeah, soI would say this is
like by the books Friday, the13th type stuff. There's an
attempt at a twist that is, isreally easy to see coming if,
even if, you can't tell who it'sgoing to be coming from. And so
(03:47):
I, I don't know you're sayingpass, I would say that. You
know, my problem was, I don'tthink much of this kid. And so
when the movie wasn't great, Iwas kind of like, what did I
expect?
Yeah, I kind of, I give him alot of room as an actor. I feel
like there's potential for himout there, but in my head, he's
(04:10):
still such a kid. I just yeah,when I saw it was like a film by
okay. I mean, he's fucking 22years old or something now, and
he has lived his entire life infront of us. Yeah. So I'm just
like, I kind of hate that, thatidea of, you know, I had to
(04:36):
struggle to make this, you know,I'm like, You didn't really have
to struggle to make this. Youhad to become the actor that you
became, yeah, that was goodenough to suddenly get on the
biggest show in the world. Butthat opens a lot of fucking
doors. Yeah? Oh, for sure. So Idon't know hell of a summer is a
rental,pure mileage may vary. Yeah,
(04:59):
wow. Hell. Yeah. Well, I saw thenew HBO, HBO series, the pits.
HBO Max again, yes, okay, now itis HBO Max. No, no longer Max.
The Pit. This is a medicaldrama, right? Yes,
it's a medical drama. It's,yeah, it's set up like 24 so
each one's hour by hoursequentially. It's Noah Riley.
(05:24):
Riley from er is reprised, and,in fact, the creator of ER is
back as well, making this showit is so fucking good and
addictive. Don't Don't watch oneepisode, unless you have time
and you just want to loseyourself in something for a
(05:44):
while, because it was like hardto stop watching and it has a
hefty number of episodes. Ithink it's something like 12 or
15 episodes. It's, I love thatthat's now a lot of episodes
felt like a lot compared to, Imean, it feels like return to
traditional I know, I know. Itwas really funny hearing people
be like, What an incredible,unique format. And I was like,
(06:07):
What are you talking about?
There were so many seasons of20. Does anyone remember Alicia
Cuthbert? Come on, people. Butno, but it is extremely good. I
think that, yeah, like, justreally emotionally interesting.
I love the medical stuff.
There's a lot of PTSDemotionally from the lead
(06:31):
concerning how COVID went down,and as things start to get
stressful and worse and worse,he keeps kind of tapping into
this, like, helpless, horriblemoment that he flashes back to
from COVID where, like, everyonearound him is dying, and
everything's, you know,confusing, and he's covered on
all the suit and anyway. And ofcourse, like people who are
coming in have interestingmedical issues, it's just, it's
(06:54):
a real adrenaline junkie showwith a lot of cool little
twists, some of which you seecoming, some of which you don't
and, yeah, I just really enjoyedit. So
I've read or watched somethingon that. It is one of the most
medically accurate shows ever.
I heard that too. I mean,obviously it's a lot that
happens in a smaller amount oftime than probably would, sure,
(07:17):
because drama, but at the sametime, I My best friend is she?
She was a ambulance person. Whatdo you call them? EMT, okay.
Thank you. Sorry. Yeah, you'rewelcome. EMT, and so her and my
friends in high school, theywould like study like in the the
(07:38):
hall, hallways of the highschool, doing all their medical
textbooks and getting ready fordifferent kinds of things,
because they all wanted to gointo that profession. And I was
like, not me. Good luck. Enjoy.
So having been, you know, aroundthat kind of universe, it was
really fun, not fun, butinteresting to see all of this
stuff. And very Yeah. I haven'tseen it
(08:02):
yet. I really want to, but itkind of reminds me of, it looks
like, I don't know if you'veseen the original ER with this
show called Code Black. Oh no.
That only lasted maybe a seasonor two. That was incredibly
intense. Really, one doubt theidea of a code black being an ER
is so busy that they cannot takepeople anymore. And it's
supposed to be like the based onthe inner city, la hospital, or
(08:24):
something that enters CodeBlack, more than any other
hospital in the US.
That is 100% what this is like.
It's like the ers begin youbegin with it overflowing and
just them trying to make a dentin it. It's just, yeah.
Monumental your mention toois, I'll toss this out see if
maybe I can get to you to watchthis yet. But your description
(08:46):
reminds me of a medical versionof the bear. Oh, sure, the first
season of the bear. At leastthere's a couple things. There's
a couple episodes that havehappened as the bear goes on
that just pushed me out becausethey were so intense, yeah, and
so uncomfortable to watch them.
Like, okay, you guys are reallygood at what you do, but you're
(09:08):
actually almost too good. Butthat first season, Yeah, fucking
brilliant. Anyways, I've seenlike, two episodes of the bear.
I just have to be ready mentallyto return, and I'm not
that was called the pit and itis on HBO Max.
HBO Max, no longer Max.
(09:29):
Yes, update your update yourapp. Yeah, not just Max. Not not
max. HBO Max.
Yeah, it's good to see acorporation that obviously
really has their shit togetherand knows what they're doing.
It's not TV, it's HBO. See, thatwould have been where they
should have stuck with 40 yearsof a certain kind of style.
Anyways. So I watched a film bya person I know, friend of mine
(09:54):
from he had two or three filmsat cryptocon. See. Out all over
the years, and I don't knowwhere it's living now, last I
heard, I think he's living likeSouth Dakota, but I don't know
if he's still there, directed byJeremy Brown and Mick strong,
who I think I've met. Butanyways, a movie called solitude
(10:14):
just came out on for rental atall the usual places. And it's a
story of a reality show wherepeople are alone in the woods
and they have to survive. Andthe the idea is there's
something weird in the wordswoods, something Well, it starts
(10:35):
with Windigo is the openingmoment and pretty low budget.
Some the lead lady, Nicole Appleline does actually a really
solid performance. Some of theothers are, they're all good.
There's nobody like, oh my god,get off the screen now. But the
the leads performance moves themovie forward. Overall, pretty
(10:59):
damn good. He's got a style Ifind interesting, so that helps
a lot. I would say, if you'renot a watcher of reality shows,
I don't know what, if this maybug you, because it's got that
reality show style of talking tothe camera and other things like
that going on. So maybe it's notfor everybody, but the just well
(11:22):
done, well done, low budget filmwith set in largely one
location. There's a secondarylocation where the where the
budget kind of shows, becausethere's a very small group of
people working on this show, butit seems like there a few more
(11:43):
people, maybe, but. But, youknow, you do what you can when
you got a low budget that you'redealing with, but looks really
good shot on the red, I think,edited on Da Vinci, so at the
end, going alright. But so ifyou're if you're interested in
low budget indie films that arewell acted and overall well
(12:05):
done, and you don't mind realityshows, I would say definitely
check it out. That's why Kelly,maybe it's not going to be one
for you. But I think Jeremy didsomething pretty good, and he
did a short film one time thatthere's just a slow burn zombie
(12:26):
thing that I really, reallyliked. Glad to see. He's
working, getting it done. Keepgoing, man. Where is this
available in lots of places. Ithink I rented on Apple. It's on
Amazon. It's it's got a prettygood distribution, because it's
on most of theplaces you can rent cool. It's
called solitude. Um, okay, which1am I gonna talk about here? I
(12:48):
think I'm gonna talk about drop.
Oh, okay, heardof drop? Yes, but
have not seen it? I have. Thisis about a woman who goes on a
first date with a guy, andthey're in a really cool tower
restaurant, and she startsgetting these messages dropped
(13:12):
to her iPhone, and pretty soon,these messages are telling her
that she has to try and killthis guy that she is on the date
with, or her son at home isgoing to be killed. And these
messages include videos of theperson in her house and stuff
like that. And if she tries todo anything, they're just going
(13:35):
to kill the kid immediately. Soit is one of those almost real
time movies, once this partstarts, where she is trying to
not kill obviously, and andstill make the guy think that
she's going to be able to pullthis off, it's it's not horror,
I guess it would be thriller. Itdidn't completely work for me,
(13:59):
but there were moments that Ithought were really, really good
and engaging and and then thetitle, I thought was
interesting, because it it meanstwo things in this film. So I,
you know, it's a rental, and Ithink it's really well acted and
(14:19):
well written. I think I wantedjust a little more out of it.
But I'll be honest, I don't knowwhat else I could have wanted
from it. It's done fine. It justleft me going, there was
something I needed in here thatI didn't get, kind of
sounds like that piano, one thatI talked about a couple of weeks
back where it's like, it'sreally good, but it to something
(14:41):
right there, but very similarpremise.
Yeah, so this was, this was,there are some funny moments in
it, and there's some reallystressful scenes where I was
just like, Oh, holy shit. And itdid make me go, what would I do
in this situation? Because Ithink I'm, I think I'm too much
of. Pussy, and I would just belike, I'm calling the cops. I
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don't know what else to do. Sothen they kill my kid. Problem.
He was five years old. Howattached
make another one? I definitelywas pretty interested in seeing
this film, but just, I thinkthere were other things in the
theater at the same time, justcouldn't quite make it work. So
it's exciting to hear that it'savailable to stream now. Yeah,
(15:24):
torent. To rent. Yes, yeah. Called
Drop Excellent.
Well, I watched a film that I'vebeen meaning to watch for a
while called we live in time,which I thought was going to be
a like a sci fi romance withtime travel in starring Andrew
Garfield and Florence Pugh. It'savailable to stream right now on
(15:48):
max for free. Inscience fiction time travel, it
is not,Oh, okay. It is just a I think
it might, maybe it's based on abook, just like a story of a
couple, and it's sort of toldroughly out of order between how
they met, how they fell in love,got married, had a kid, and then
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she's she is undergoing cancertreatment, but is also a famous
chef at the same time, andtrying to do this like Big Chef
competition, it's a real pieceof shit. No, I don't know why
it's told out of order. There'sliterally no payoff to that.
There's maybe, like, one momentin the whole film where I was
(16:32):
like, Oh, this is kind of cool.
Like, I like how you're doingthis one thing, but most of it
was just frustrating becauseyou're like, This chick is like,
dying, and instead of spendingtime with her family, and she's
like, I'm gonna try to win thisvery specific award for doing
chef stuff, and she's just beingvery selfish, and it's, it's
(16:54):
hard to care about herreasoning. You just kind of want
her to stop being an asshole,and you don't really care about
that their relationship thatmuch, like I just didn't buy
into their relationship thatmuch. They're both great actors,
but I just this film just feltso pointless. Wow, yeah, I was
really bummed. I was reallyhoping for, like, a nice, like
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rom com, or even just a romance.
And it just was. It left meemotionally wanting.
It left this reviewer, God,yep, wow. Well, that's a bummer,
because I always, I am reallyrooting for Andrew Garfield to
make some kind of comeback. Butyeah, he did great in Tick, tick
boom, which was, that's right onNetflix that was amazing. So I
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think that he's like, floatingaround out there. People know
he's extremely good. It's justthese projects. Man, don't do
this fucking book adaptationbullshit. Wow. I guess maybe he
saw Florence was, I don't know,I don't know who decided first.
And they were like, Yeah, let'sdo this film together. We're
both British. Great.
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Choose better projects.
That's a pass. I guess alreadywe live in time, all right,
today, one called freaky tales,yeah, I've been curious about
this. I reallyenjoyed it. It's a lot of fun. I
think it was a couple ofepisodes ago. You'd mentioned
you're ready for Pedro Pascal todo, like, a dark scene, or dark
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character he does in this one.
I've seen this. Okay, you saythat that he's really good at
it. Like, going, yeah, he couldcarry a movie as a villain. It's
like, yeah, not a super villain,but a non Wonder Woman, like,
yeah, yeah, there you go. That'sjust want
to clarify fair point, okay,but so the idea is there's four
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kind of internet, interconnectedstories, loosely interconnected,
but there's no wraparound storyor anything like that. It's not
like an anthology, per se, butall taking in place in Oakland,
California in the late 80s. Andone is Pascal's cherry. One's
about a bunch of punks doing ashow which gets interfered with
(19:13):
by Nazis. And then the other oneis this basketball player who
does this amazing, amazingending scene, which is just
ridiculous over the top and alot of fun.
Yeah, I wanted to know a littlebit more. I should have done a
little more research on this,because the basketball player is
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the name of a real basketballplayer from back, and that real
basketball player cameos in thefilm sleepy Floyd. Yeah, Joe
Floyd, or something like, Yeah,but you're forgetting that
there's also a throwaway segmentof two female rappers having a
(19:58):
rap battle with two short. Art,yeah, in a in a sequence that
didn't make sense with the restof the movie. It
was a fun scene, but, yeah, itwas definitely not inter Yeah,
even loosely intertwined withthem, yeah? So
what about these tales arefreaky?
That is an interesting thing.
The the final tale is definitelyfreaky, but there's a loose wrap
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around idea that on thisparticular night there was this
green light that was something.
And so you'll see greenlightning in the background
every once in a while. And thereis a odd at the end of the end
(20:42):
of the rap battle, there's anodd nod to repo man, yeah, where
this bus glows and then fliesoff and
Marshawn Lynch just makes hiscameo appearance. I and I
was like, was that MarshawnLynch? She didn't even get a
line. But the weirdest thing is,this is written and directed by
the filmmakers who did CaptainMarvel. Oh, this is a very low
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budget film written by somegigantic creators, and it's got
to be a passion project thing. Ithought it was really uneven,
but I liked Pedro's bit, and Iloved the basketball one, yeah,
those are the best. The thingis, is that, like, the first one
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with the punks and theskinheads, I was like, oh boy,
the acting is a little rough.
And I was just like, okay, am Igonna like this? And then the
second one I didn't like and andI was, you know, I hate that
I've become such a Pascal that Iwas like, I'm just gonna hang
out for his segment, which wasthe only reason I even watched
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it and, and it was really good,with a very surprising cameo at
the video store.
Yes, that was like, Oh, okay.
But But then that last segmentis so fun and cool that I was
like, Oh, these guys pulled atitanic on me. You know, the
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Titanic movie sucks, but thelast fucking 30 minutes of it is
is two people getting chased bya guy who's trying to kill them
while their ocean liner issinking. It's like, this movie
is fucking awesome. That's how Ifelt at the end of this freaky
tales, I was like, God, thismovie is great. I kind
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of like the first one a littlebit because I had a very brief
foyer into that punk world.
Yeah. Me too. And so I was like,Oh, this is kind of fun, but,
but I'd actually had completelyforgotten about
the battle. I mean, overall,it's definitely worth watching.
(22:53):
Oh, yeah, I have a feeling thisturns into a cult film.
Oh, it's very, very easily acult film, because literally
nobodyis talking about this. And I
think five years from now,people stumble upon it, you
know, somewhere, and they'rejust like, oh, this movie is
fun. Whenthere's also people, I think,
will look at segments we didn'tlike, and that'll be their
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favorite segment very easily. Imean, if you're a huge rap
battle fan, it's a decent scenefor a rap battle, right? But
then you know that. But Whatyear was this? Is this real
recent? 87 Oh,when it takes place, 24 was when
it was released.
I think it just did a festival.
Yeah, finished a festival. Yeah,trailers.
(23:39):
Butyeah. I mean, if it was our year
wrap in it could probably be a2025, film. Because I think,
yeah, just hit big release.
Is it, um, streaming freeanywhere, or is it still a paid
for rental? I hadto rent it. That
sounds right. I think it's likethe $3 rental range, though. I'm
gonna have to Amazon, somethingslow mo, and then get my $2 and
(24:01):
rent this movie for $1.90Well, that's going through
Amazon. And you know the weirdthing I've done with the Winnie
the Pooh movies and all thatshit, the Popeye movies are out,
and a couple of the others, andI looked at that, they're like,
$13 rents. I'll wait on those.
You'retalking about, the ones that
have become public domain. Yeah,hold off on those, because
(24:23):
someone at this table might havedecided that that's going to be
his topic. Coming up shortly isthose public domain films,
maybe after they're not $14 orat least have a good reason then
to spend money on it.
Yeah? So freaky tales, I wouldsay, is a recommend. But I would
(24:46):
also say you will probably bethinking, I wonder what these
guys liked about it, until youget to the Pedro Pascal Yes, one
which is, which is just betteracted by everything.
Yeah, the. It. I He's, it'sobvious, you know, you've got
the actors that elevate thepeople around them, yeah, he
obviously is that kind of aperson to where, I don't know,
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you know, a little bit better,he seems like the kind of person
that was working with somebody,he's working with them, yeah?
And so, like, the scene with thelady in the car was, yeah, her
acting was really good. And hisand,
yeah, the other, the other kindof surprise actor showing up in
this is Ben Mendelsohn, and thatguy is a fucking powerhouse
(25:32):
actor too. So he, he reallyelevates the scenes he's in,
yeah, and there is some kind ofinteresting intertwining of the
stories once you get into thethird and fourth story, where
you start realizing, Oh, thepeople there are part of this
story and stuff like that, yeah.
So it's worth a watch for sure.
Yeah, definitely. I'm glad thatyou saw that. Okay, how about we
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take a little break, and thenwhen we come back, we're
continuing with sci fi as we getinto the 2000 10s
transformers, Dark of the Moon.
Action is here with all new mechtech figures. I'm in control
(26:19):
auto versus the cell a vehicle.
You spy when I get it, then myhands are robots in disguise. Me
to get through ready to set thecomms, my phone, change the
record, shift the kids, I'malways in control. Give me any
vehicle,and I'll show you a robot in
disguise. New mech tech figureseat so definitely changed. I may
vary. Transformers. Hello.
(26:43):
Let's see who's called thestrange eons radio hotline.
Oh yeah, quick attendance to theother film industry, though. So
I think Seattle might also havethe problem that if housing is
expensive, as Atlanta is nowrunning into that, because
housing used to be dirt cheap,but now something like 30% of
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the single family homes here arebought up by rental companies,
and the rent is just off thecharts. So if you weren't
already in about 10 years ago,then you're just not going to be
able to sustain it. So I justthought I'd throw that in the
pot. Thanks again. Hi guys, it'sMicah again in a rare Cooper.
(27:24):
But since I'm down in Georgiaand I was intrigued by your your
conversation about the Seattlefilm, figured I give you this
one from about a year or so agowhen I was at a bar in noonans,
which is down near where theyfell on The Walking Dead, and
there was this incredibly drunkguy there who turned out to be
(27:47):
the ED trainer for a really bigstudio that I'm not going to
name, but it figured out inGeorgia, and he was wasted
because he'd been told that awhole production was going to
London. And then he proceeded totell me about how a whole bunch
of productions were all beingmoved to London because they
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were they were offering hugeincentives, which is probably
what Seattle thing is thatthey're offering refunds instead
of incentives, which I thinkthat gives a lot of companies.
Pause, but it was, it was quitea thing. And I've got plenty of
friends in the VFX businessaround here, and they're all
scrambling to figure out how todo other things right now. And
(28:34):
one's working for DoorDash. Thatsucks. So yeah, that business is
contracting hard here. But yeah,wow, that's a Counter node. But
otherwise, yeah, things aregood. See you later. Bye,
(28:55):
and we have returned, motherfucking
rage if we have to talk abouthousehold repairs, man, it's
going to be half an hour of mejust going this was
after some confusion. This wasmy choice.
It was indeed to make it easyon myself by choosing sci fi
(29:17):
movies of the 2000 10s. So Iwill start us off with that in
mind. Give myself five minutesand I am talking about from 2012
Chronicle. You're probably goingto want to get this on camera.
You thebrain. I don't want to do it,
(29:45):
dude, I don't want to do it.
Okay. Are you ready do it? Giveme a countdown. I will. I
promise. Arewe rolling? Let me get the gum.
I. Whyare you ready? I got this one,
(30:06):
sweet, sweet, thisis my theory, though, is that
it's like a muscle. Watch thisdude. Holy,
it's why I think we're gettingstronger. You know,
(30:26):
yes, it was the black guy thistime,
working it out. There's nothingstopping us. Where you going,
somewhere that could help usthis guy's problem.
(30:52):
Was it an accident?
Andrew, Andrew, listen to me. Wecan't screw around with this.
It's too dangerous. Andrew, it'snot a game stop this right
now, just making the headsounds ah, what is that? Steve,
(31:22):
wait up. Matt, look at this.
Holywe've all seen Chronicle. Nope,
yes, you haven't seenchronicler. Oh, interesting,
okay, directed by Josh Trank,who, after this, directed the
Fantastic Four reboot thatfailed mightily, and Capone,
which basically killed hiscareer, written by Josh Frank
(31:46):
and Max Landis was writtenAmerican Ultra Victor.
Frankenstein, bright shadow inthe cloud. He is a good writer
and a horrible humanbeing. Oh, I would say he's a
bad writer and a horrible movie.
I liked all those movies,really? Yeah, Victor
Frankenstein. I liked VictorFrankenstein. I thought it was
(32:08):
fine. Woof. Okay, carry on.
I need five movies. You pulledout one. They all said it was
probably the least of them. Ilike shadow in the cloud quite a
bit. I liked American Ultra alot. Okay, so this stars Dane
DeHaan, who was Harry Osborne inthe Andrew Garfield Spider Man
movies. He was also in a curefor wellness, Valerian and the
(32:31):
city of 1000 planets,Oppenheimer and just recently on
American primeval. This alsostars Alex Russell, who was in
bait. He was in the carryremake. He was in under my skin,
and 129 episodes of Swat. Andlittle known young actor named
(32:53):
Michael B Jordan, who was inCreed, Creed two, Black Panther
one and two. And just recently,sinners. So Eric, we are
introduced to Seattle highschooler Andrew, who's having a
hard time at home. His mom isdying from some unnamed disease,
and his alcoholic father beatshim regularly. To start
(33:14):
combating this, he has picked upa camcorder and started
recording everything about hislife. Yes, this is unfortunately
found. Andrew's cousin Matt hasinvited him to a rave to help
him meet people, but he's therefilming everything, and that
gets him kicked out prettyquickly and leaves the party
dejected. But a few hours later,he's approached by Steve, a
(33:36):
popular jock at the high school.
Steve is friends with Matt, andthe two of them have found
something weird and want answerto record it. It is a strange
hole in the ground, and whenthey all go in, there is
something in there giving off analien light, and it quickly
explodes with light, and theboys scramble out. This is their
superhero origin story, asthey've all gained telekinetic
(33:56):
powers, but when they start toover exert themselves, they get
horrible nosebleeds. Theyrealize, though, that their
powers increase as they use themmore often. So they start
hanging out and practicing oneach other. It's probably the
best part of the movies you getto watch teenage boys acting
like teenagers with telekineticpowers. They they throw rocks at
each other with their minds.
(34:19):
Contests who can build thefastest Lego structures and pull
pranks on unsuspecting people,good fun, that is until Andrew
kills a guy in a road rageincident, and now everyone is
freaked out. They make a set ofrules to never use their powers
against living things. Andrewand Steve even enter the school
talent show and do a bunch ofimpossible tricks, which turns
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Andrew into the coolest kid inschool, and he was finally
invited to a party with thepopular kids. And that is, of
course, where everything startsgoing wrong. In a carry type
situation, he goes on adestructive killing spree, and
only his cousin Andrew can stophim, or can he. This movie was a
lot better than I remembered,and the. Fact that Seattle looks
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a lot like a South African citydidn't bother me as much this
time around,some trivia. Director Josh
Frank, Michael B Jordan and AlexRussell live in a house together
for 15 days in order to createsome kind of bond between the
three actors. The screenplay forthis film was featured in 2010
blacklist, which is a list ofthe most liked unmade scripts of
(35:24):
the year. Shockingly, theoriginal story would have the
trio become psychopaths becauseof their powers, but it was soon
changed at it as it was too darkand also would not really make
sense to the plot. Also, this isnot shocking when you realize
who Max Landis is at 27 JoshTrank was the youngest person to
(35:44):
direct a film that opened atnumber one at the box office.
The previous record holder wasSteven Spielberg, who was 28
when Jaws opened. Wow. Afterthis film grossed 10 times its
budget, Josh Trank found himselfin high demand by major studios.
He was attached to a number ofprojects such as Sony's long
gestating Venom movie, a StarWars spin off focusing on Boba
(36:07):
Fett, an adaptation of Shadow ofthe Colossus, a film based on
the image, a film based on theimage, comic book Red Star, and
a reboot of Fantastic Four, heultimately chose Fantastic Four,
a critical and commercialfailure that nearly ended his
(36:27):
career in 2019 after Max Landiswas accused of sexual and
emotional abuse by multiplewomen, Josh Trank tweeted, I
100% believe every word of thisarticle about Max. I banned him
from visiting principalphotography of Chronicle, and I
haven't spoken to him since 2012Wow, by the way, Josh Trank
career is pretty much stalled,but Max Landis continues to
(36:49):
work. Yeah,I have a little bit of
interesting BTS info on tranq,which is so around the time he
was doing Fantastic Four, I knewa sound designer who is, I think
it was at Sony at the time, and,yeah, he just imploded on that
set, and he made a little tent,and he hid in it, and he
(37:10):
wouldn't come out and thendrink, yeah, and then they
brought on producers tobasically finish the film, and
they wanted to keep it hushhush, because they didn't want
the public to find out, and itwould plummet, because if they
were like, the directorbasically didn't exist, and then
he went to the internet and waslike, they stole my film and
tanked it himself. That's whyit's a big old mess, and it
(37:34):
makes zero sense.
Yeah, that is actually publiclyknown. Yeah, big article written
about how poorly he acted onset. He's too young. He was
given a gigantic fuckingproperty. It's
way too big, yeah, for like, togo from chronicle to the I feel,
I do feel bad for him. I thinkthat that was a really rough
(37:55):
situation. Theunfortunate thing then, though,
is he does Capone, which is notas big, and it's still a really
horrible movie. So is it, yeah,I think that this was kind of a,
you know, unfortunately, youknow, Max Landis wrote an
interesting story.
I think, yeah, I think somehow agood story came, because
chronicle is a great film. But,yeah, I don't think that those
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filmmakers are necessarily goodfilmmakers, but Michael B
Jordan. Michael B Jordan isthere you go. He steals
the camera Limelight in this.
Was this his first film? Yeah,because I remember watching this
and be like, That guy's kind ofcute. He's kind of he's kind of
watchable. I don't know who'sthis dude
again, because if you thought hewas kind of cute, he is a kid in
(38:42):
this I was looking I was like,God, boy, this guy has grown up
to be a very handsome man, butyou might not have believed it
back then,really, you know, he's just got
that charisma. Yeah, Ithink there's also some to be
said. As far as director, thedifference between some can do
both some can't between a foundfooted film and a lockdown, sure
film with sticks. It makes it.
(39:07):
It's a very different style,having a crew versus, like,
having, you know, your friendyourself
and a couple. Yeah, it's sodifferent, different. So I could
see, yeah, that'd be too bad hecouldn't handle it, but that
would be a Wow. What atransition. Holy shit.
Vanessa, you want to go next?
Sure.
(39:27):
All right, so I went with a filmI had not seen, which is from
2011 the film in time youallow me to introduce my mother
in law, Clara, my wife,Michelle, and my daughter
(39:48):
Sylvia, whoa, who's the rest.
Never left a quota. My Units areup from last week. So is quota.
Just one something to make a bitmore time on my end than hours
(40:11):
in the day.
How old are you? 28 I'm onefive, but the day comes when
you've had enough. If you had asmuch time as I have, what would
you do with it. Sureas hell wouldn't waste it.
(40:38):
The last time anyone saw himalive, there was over a century
on this clock, well, all thetime. His name is Will Salas.
You can't hide 100 years in theghetto. You know that time I'll
get you killed. Hey, Mom, I'mgonna get out of here. I just
wouldn't know what to do if Ilost you. Don't
believe we've had the pleasureof your company before. Miss
turn Salas. Will Salas, I'msorry to have to bring up the
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party, Mrs. Weiss, I just needto work
with your friend. This is myday. Why they're keeping me
alive. Canyou live with yourself watching
people die right next to you.
You don't watch.
(41:25):
Close your eyes. Take them foreverything they've got. Come on,
come on. Help yourselves. Takethe time and treat you. Put
enough time in the wrong hands.
You upset the whole system.
Let's hope so. If this works, wegot to get more. I can help you
get all the time you want. No,come in the kitchen. You his
(41:50):
crime wasn't taking time. Hewas giving it away. Seeing the
poster bopping around here andthere, thought I'd check it out.
Had a budget of 40 million boxoffice 174, this is written and
directed by Andrew Nicole, whoyou would know from Gattaca
Simone, Lord of War, and wroteTruman Show starring Justin
Timberlake from you know, beingJustin Timberlake also the
(42:16):
social network inside Lou andDavis SNL and trolls as branch,
and then the self bam,good lord. Amanda Seyfried,
because I'm happy anyway. AmandaSeaford from 77 credits,
including Mean Girls, mamma miaLes Mis Twin Peaks, the return
(42:39):
and Cillian or Killian Murphy.
Killian Murphy 63 credits,including 28 days later,
Inception, Oppenheimer and PeakyBlinders. And also has in it
Olivia Wilde, Johnny coleckifrom the Big Bang Theory, Ethan
Peck, Spock and Vincentkathizer, who plays Pete
(43:02):
Campbell in Mad Men. The storyis in 2069 I know people are
born with an embedded timer.
When they turn 25 they are givenone year of time, which becomes
basically a currency. Theirminutes are used for things like
coffee. Are used to get the bus,any basic thing you would use
cash for. Instead you use timefor and you, of course, have to
earn a living. When their timeruns out, they immediately die.
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So they must find ways to stayalive. Many people live a while
and never but they never age.
They never look older than 25the Truly Rich people
essentially become immortalbecause they can just keep going
and going going. People live intime zones according to their
wealth. This keeps the rich richand the poor poor. Another big
(43:47):
differentiator between the poorand the rich is that the poor
run everywhere because time istoo precious. They also don't
sleep in or engage in timewasting activities, except for
going to the club. Will Salas isfrom a poor neighborhood, living
with his mother and day to day,basically owing money to all
kinds of time lenders. He worksin a factory and is living in a
(44:09):
ghetto, but is a clearlygenerous guy. He gives time away
to little girl around this downthe block, he offers to help
people out around him. Afterwork, he goes to a club, and he
sees Henry Hamilton, a 105 yearold man who has a century of
life on his clock and islavishly giving time away and
(44:30):
buying drinks for people. Willwarns him that the Minutemen, a
local mafia, will come and killhim if they see him act like
this, basically, they'll rob himof all this time. The man
doesn't care. And when theMinutemen arrive, the man is
clearly out of his league. Willhelps him escape to a hideout in
a warehouse where they stayovernight. They have a long
(44:51):
conversation about the meaningof life, and the man tells will
that there's a conspiracy tokeep the poor poor and force
their time to run out so theyhave to die. And. There is
actually plenty of time to goaround meanwhile, of course, the
bridge can live forever likehimself, and he says it's not
natural, and that he basicallywants to die the next morning
before will wakes the mantransfers all of his life to
(45:12):
Him, then wanders off into themorning to sit on a bridge and
die. He leaves a note to will,saying, Do not waste my time.
Will is excited to share histime with his mother, but due to
a miscalculation of timing andthe bus raising its rate, she
dies before she gets home. Yep,will decides to destroy the
system and goes out of his timezone to the richest
(45:34):
neighborhood. He admits himselfwithin a bunch of bankers, and
he intends to take the wholething down. But meanwhile, the
Timekeepers, aka the police,find Henry's body. Will becomes
the prime suspect. They catch upto will at a party while he's
flirting with Sylvia, thebanker's daughter, who feels
that life is pointless and isthrilled by Will's free spirits.
(45:56):
When the police arrive, he takesher hostage, and they go on the
run. They return to the ghetto,where they're robbed of all but
a few minutes, and she learnshow to value time. They then
basically become a futuristicRobin Hood, Bonnie and Clyde,
robbing the rich of their timeand breaking by breaking into
her father's banks and givingaway to the poor. This is a
(46:17):
pretty dramatic shift from a scifi story to Bonnie and Clyde
like, Whoa. Okay, the plot isgone. Here we are. That's fine.
It's it knows what it is, and itgoes into it. I don't know why
their solve isn't to justdestroy the whole mechanism.
That's very strange to me, like,I don't know why they steal time
(46:39):
instead of just killing thedevices and the reason why
people are forced to live theway they are. But that's okay.
There are a crazy number ofrandom people who eventually
become famous. The guy who goeson to play Spock and brave new
worlds is is her like bodyguardwho says nothing. I just kept
looking at people being like,Wait, you're famous, you're
(46:59):
somebody, you're funny, you goon to be in the Big Bang Theory
is like the lead. You're justthe geeky friend here. Killian
murky has a very goofy run.
Amanda Siegfried has to run inhigh heels the whole time. And
it's fucking stupid. It's justdumb. I don't I'm not in love
with this film, I feel like,because everyone is 25 or
(47:21):
younger, you just don't get thequality of acting. And there is
a weird uncanny valley whenyou've got, like, Olivia Wilde
as his mom and she's hugginghim, and you're like, did you
guys just sleep together whileyou're in the same place? Oh,
you're with his mom. Okay, cool.
Like, there's just some weirdthings going on. Killian Murphy
(47:42):
does a great job, but it's stillit just doesn't quite support
the film. I don't think it's aman amazing. I won't say too
much more other than the writer,director Andrew Nicole has
called his 2011 film in time abastard child of Gattaca, a also
(48:04):
sci fi writing, writer HarlanEllison launched a lawsuit
against new Regency and directorAndrew Nicole, claiming that the
film's plot was an uncannysimilar similarity to a short
story repent. Harlequin said thetalk men initially, Ellison was
seeking an injunction againstthe film's release, when which
he watered down to request foran on screen credit. Ultimately,
(48:27):
the case was dropped with nomoney exchanging hands between
the parties, both sides,releasing the following joint
statement. After seeing the filmin time, Harlan Ellison decided
to voluntarily dismiss theaction. No payment or screen
credit was promised or given toHarlan Ellison. The parties wish
each other well and have nofurther comment on this matter.
(48:48):
Harlan got a special call in themiddle of the night drop this,
sir.
I think he saw it and went, Oh,actually, this isn't my movie at
all. I don't wantmy name on this.
Never mind. Walk away slow. Ihaven't seen
this, but I knew they'reprobably curious about it. It's,
you know, I don't know it'sworth checking out. I I didn't
(49:09):
hate it. I just, I wasn't crazyin love with it. You know, I
think Justin Timberlake,did he bring sexy back for you?
I was never that. Ended upJustin, he wasn't my guy,
not a JT fan. I was notmy roommate in college. Was big.
Posters, everyone. There you go.
Yeah, Eric,you ready? Yes, yes, yes, yes.
(49:30):
Five minutes. Okay, so 2013brings me Upstream Color. I
do you know this place I want tosay, yes, for you I want to is
(49:53):
there? Is there a direction thatyou feel I'm gonna go wherever
you go. I. You know that you'rescaring me a little bit. I feel
like you know,won't let anyone near that.
There's a crowd back in thecorner, violent. I've never seen
(50:15):
the parents behave so they canget very protective.
(50:39):
The bar before you is somehowspecial. It is better than
anything you've ever tasted.
Each drink is better than Thelast. Take A drink now.
(51:49):
Which I did not know existeduntil I was looking through
this. Yeah, and I as soon as Isaw who directed it, I'm going,
I'm watching this. It's directedby directed and written by Shane
Carruth, who did primer, okay,and another thing called
Breakthrough. And God knows whyhe hasn't done more movies, I
(52:11):
don't know. Is an actor who'she's also acts in this he was in
Swiss Army Man, the girlfriend.
Experience, everything andeverything and everything, sure.
Amy cements, who is in petcemetery. Stranger three
episodes. Stranger thing. AlienCovenant, and you're next. And
Frank Mosley, who's Shoot theMoon between the eyes, go fuck
(52:33):
yourself. Oliver and 109 othercredits or Oliver shit. Okay, so
this is starts artsy. There'sthat sci fi music note, the
single note, that's sort ofascending and descending and
like, Okay, I've heard thisbefore long, drawn out sounds.
(52:54):
Still sounds cool, but all thesesuper tight shots with one image
in the middle of a blurry thing,you know, very, very seen artsy,
but still looking really good,telling some weird story of what
this guy seems to be harvestingplants or maggots or something.
(53:15):
The next moment is there's twotree two teens who drink
whiskey, looking liquid, andclose their one closes their
eyes, and the other guy startsdoing gestures, and the other
person matches him perfectly,not being able to see him at
all. So they do this againlater, with a similar situation,
(53:35):
setting you up that whatever isgoing on with these maggots is
generating some kind ofcommunication between these two
people. So he decides thescientists are kind of the
scientist decides he's going toget puts two in capsules to go
out and find someone to takecontrol of, and gives it to a
(53:59):
woman, which leads to thethought of uncomfortable things,
but thankfully, it does not gothere. It keeps it him just
stealing all her money. See, hegets her to write her mortgage
off to him and all the cash shecan come up with, including a
bunch of, like, rare coins orsomething like that.
(54:23):
And once that's done, he takesher to this
doctor kind of thing, who takesthe the worm has, you know,
grown, and there's some grimstuff of her trying to figure
out what's going on after shecomes to and he takes this worm
out and implants it in a pig.
There's some uncomfortablescenes with pigs in this film,
(54:46):
just in case you're inclined tobe worried about that kind of
stuff. But from there, itbecomes this very odd thing
where people. So you come torealize all these pigs are
connected to people in the realworld, and he's basically
observing them. And somehow,when he sits with the pigs, he
(55:13):
sits with the people, it's wild,and two of these people find
each other, which you know,leads to problems for him, and
it's really good. Sothese people don't know that
they're connected to theseExactly, okay?
And it's just smart, just likeprimer, it's incredibly smart
(55:39):
filmmaking, which may lead toanswers or may not. They just, I
mean, absolutely, if you likeprimer at all, this is a film to
check out, because it's got thestrain. It's incredibly well
shot. The acting is insanelygood. The I
(56:04):
it just works. So I am really,really thrilled that this is the
one I watched, probably the bestone so far. I It's because it's
interesting and kind of likeprimer. I think I only watched
primer once, but I never stoppedforgetting that film, and
luckily, umbrella just came outwith a very cool back set of it,
(56:25):
which I need to watch.
It's premiered. It'spremiered at Sundance in 2013 in
January, and did get a smalltheatrical release, but that was
self distributed by thedirector, and he made a quote
about everything, about thechoice to do the do the
(56:49):
distribution is aboutcontextualizing the movie like
sounds like the guy who writesthese deep thinker movies lives
a deep thinker life. So yeah,Upstream Color, highly
recommended, available through afew places like rents and stuff
like that. But if you like thethe weirder side of sci fi, the
(57:11):
hard to figure out what's goingon. Go on a journey. Art House
movie. This is definitely wantto check out.
Vanessa, you've clearly seenthis. Yes, didn't
like it at all. Lookslike I think I've seen it three
or four times really. I hatethis. Why the hell was she
watching again? Because people Ihang out with were like, We
(57:33):
gotta watch Upstream Color. Isaw it in theaters, and then I
saw it with several times, withfriends, and I think I just kept
hoping I would get somethingmore out of it. But to me, it
feels very pretentious. Oh, it'svery pretentious. Yeah, it's
hard. Primer is verypretentious. I don't like primer
either. So that's, there's a biglike, it's me, like, I accept
(57:55):
that. It's not necessarily thefilm. It's just for me. I just
find it intolerable.
I think this also came up withthat series of those guys we
like so much who did all theLovecraftian stuff. I can't
think of thenames, but Dennis and yeah,
Benson and Morehead. We bothreally like bunkers. Can't
stand there's find a shot guys.
(58:19):
Yeah, this those films, thoseall grouped together, yes, very
well, as far as that kind ofstuff. And I like all,
I mean, it's adventurous night,and I appreciate that. I just, I
feel, I feel like they're tryingto be too cool for themselves. I
think that's what I getfrustrated with, is I'm like,
Cool. You found this shot thatmust make you feel very special,
(58:41):
like it's not adding anythingfor me.
Well, that's the same of everydirector who ever made a movie,
ever. Well, yeah, guarantee youthat,
yeah. But when you find thatshot, when you're hoping the
shot helps the film or thestory, and I feel like upstream
color is beautiful, but therewas a lot of there's a lot of
sitting and waiting and just iBut I'm glad that you watched
(59:04):
it. I'm glad you found it, andI'm glad you like it. It's just
for me. I it was not it was notthe film for me. Personally, I
can imagine sitting I feel likeI have sat at a bar and drunk
and hung out with filmmakersabout my age, about my
experience level, doing goingout there, making their movies,
and it's like they are soexcited about their own idea
(59:25):
that they lose sight of the ideaof having an audience, or the
idea of, you know, it did? Theyfeel very they're very proud of
themselves, and they're verycool, and they're very like off
the grid. And I think that's myfrustration is. I'm like, okay,
good for you. Lars van Trier,Lars, material, sure, yeah,
(59:45):
okay. And I've seen a lot oflarge keep
hoping I'll like him more than Ido. Sometimes
I like a thing here or there,but, you know, I agree like
it's, it can be, it can be,definitely very tough. I mean,
the whole dog. A 95 crew canjust, yeah, yeah. That's this
very similar frustration to me.
It's like, why are you puttingthe restrictions on yourself?
(01:00:07):
What's so cool about it, like,what are you achieving by having
no lights and no, you know,tripod? And
the house that Jack built waskind of the one that almost
really, I'm done watching hisstuff because people loved it so
much. And we're talking abouthow it's, like, the creepiest,
most disturbing film I've everseen. I can't believe and he
(01:00:28):
does dark shit. I think there'sone creepy scene and two really
cool scenes, but I'm like, Oh,this is really boring film.
Sure. Yeah. So yeah,I get that I just happen to
really likethose two, yeah, no, I'm and I'm
and there are a lot of peoplewho do like, I was just talking
to my husband, and he was like,We gotta watch primer. And I was
(01:00:52):
like, you will watch that byyourself. Enjoy. He's like, I
just bought the box that. I waslike, I know you did. That's
awesome. I'm good for you, dear.
I'm really happy for you. That'sgreat.
I'm gonna go over here and watchthe Godzilla movie from the 90s.
I surewill, and I will love it. I
didn't expect all those eggs inthat stadium. That was great. I
(01:01:12):
got the Taco Time cup. I'm happyas a clam. Perfect.
Eric, I thinkyou have the next I feel like
something different, truly,deeply, incredibly different.
We're going to go back to thedecade that almost mastered
speculative science fiction, the1970s Yes, say the 90s.
(01:01:40):
No, never again. Destroyed,spectacular science
fiction of the 70s. This isgonna lead us down to, like, the
60s and the 50s.
Were there science fiction filmsin the 10s? What about the 1890s
Well,Frankenstein was one of the
first films. It's like eightminutes long, or something like
that.
(01:02:02):
I mean, yeah, we'll get prettywe'll get into short territory
at some point, butI'll ride this pony as long, as
far as it'll take us.
Yeah, I like this idea a lot.
I've got this little indie up mysleeve called Star Wars. Oh,
you're gonna do that. I see howyou are.
(01:02:22):
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