August 28, 2025 • 61 mins
330 WE'VE GOT YOUR NUMBER!
Kelly rants about new contact lenses and the gang talks films with numbers in the title.
Also discussed: Marshmallow, Together, K-Pop Demon Hunters.
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Is there a website, does the dog die.com? Or
something you can, like, findout ahead.
Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break yourconcentration?
Somewhere between science andsuperstition,
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such sites to show you,strange eons. Welcome to strange
eons. Radio that is Eric overthere, hello, that is Venice
over there. Hello, and I amKelly gang.
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I got my eyes checked, and I'vegot new contacts. Oh, this was a
this was a fuckingmess. Why? Well, you may recall
that I went and got new contactscouple years ago. Then it was
too much. I couldn't see withoutholding something way out here.
So I went back to one of my oldcontacts and one eye so that I
could read and and you had toldme about those progressive
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lenses, yeah. So I decided I'mjust going to do it. I'm biting
the bullet and I'm going in forthe test and telling the doctor
that's what I want. I went toAmerica's best glasses in
Alderwood Mall. Oh, okay. I justwant everyone to know never to
go to America's best glasses inAlderwood Mall. The doctors are
fine. The people who are thereto help you are the biggest
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concert on the planet. Do notwant to be there. But so I went
and told the doctor, this iswhat I want. And he said, Oh,
okay, because your prescriptionhasn't changed. And I said,
Yeah, I know. I just want these.
I said, no to them. I want them.
And he said, gotta warn you,it's about 5050, on people who
they work for or not. So youmight not be able to do that,
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but we have this work aroundwhere you have one contact for
distance and one contact forreading. He goes, that's
sometimes kind of hard. I didn'twant to talk. Didn't want to
tell him, that's what I've beendoing for the last four years.
And I was like, oh, that soundsinteresting also. So I
so they make a big deal ofsaying, Do not come in and ask
about your contacts. You willget an email saying they're in,
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right? I never got an email. So,like, two weeks later, I call
and I say, I don't want to be abother, but I ordered these, and
I haven't gotten an email, butit does seem like it's been a
while, and the lady on thephone, I'm assuming, is
Jennifer, oh yeah, they're in.
And I was like, Okay, well, canI come pick him up? Yeah,
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I'll do this. So I get them, andI pop them in, and I wear them
for a couple of days, and theydo not work for me. I've got
double vision while I'm usingthem, and a lot of my work is
driving so my depth perceptionis way off, and I'm like, I
can't do this. Give me aheadache, and I had set up an
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appointment then this lastSaturday, to go in and tell them
how they were working for me. SoI go in wearing my glasses, and
Jennifer says to me, do you haveyour contacts with you? First of
all, she's like, I'm there.
First thing in the morning,there's nobody else there. She
is angry at me. Wow. Right offthe bat, holy smokes. She's
like, do you have your contactswith you? And I said, No, they
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didn't work for me. And shegoes, Well, how are we supposed
to do an evaluation without youwearing the contacts? Wow? And I
said, Well, I don't want thosecontacts. They didn't work for
me. And she just kind of looksat me and I
can be an asshole, believe it ornot. What I wanted to say was,
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look, I drove up parked right infront in a BMW that might have
set you off. Perhaps I look likeyour stepdad, who touched you
inappropriately when you werefive. I don't know. I didn't say
that. I said, Have I donesomething to piss you off?
And she goes, oh, oh, no. And Isaid, then what's going on here?
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And she takes a breath. Shesays, How is the doctor supposed
to make a determination ifyou're not wearing the contacts?
And I said, I made thedetermination. Yeah, they don't
work for me. Yeah. And he toldme that there was this other
option, so I've come in for thatother option. And she goes,
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Well, you have to understandthat this is not how it's really
done. And I said, How about wepretend that when he gave me
that option, I chose this otherone and said, I don't want
progressive lenses. Let's justgo to this other option. Oh my
gosh. And she says,Give me a moment. Oh, talk to
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the doctor. She comes back withnew lenses. She's this is for
your left eye. This is for yourright.
I if these work for you, give mea call, and we will have you
come in for your finalappointment. If these don't work
for you, give me a call. We willfigure something out. And I
wanted to say, if these work forme, you'll never see me again.
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I'm going to order these offonline somewhere, and fuck you
guys. Yeah.
And then she says, Have a greatday, Kelly, oh my god, I just
said, you too. AndI was like, I'm gonna burn this
fucking place down to theground. So I am glad
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Fuck you guys. Holy crap. Imean, I've had pretty good
experiences with optometrists,but I I usually like Google and
find, like, really good onesnear me that are little mom and
pop shops. The doctors there aregreat. In fact, when I first
went there, and I've got thisguy with a British accent and
crazy hair, he's got me doingthe thing with my contacts, and,
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you know, and finally he says,Wait, are you wearing your
contacts. He goes, Okay, so youhave to take the test again. And
then he's like, Okay, this ismuch better. And by much better,
I mean, much much worse, okay?
And I'm like, I love this guy.
So the doctor is fantastic, butJennifer
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did not want to be there. Didnot want to be working there. So
I'm sorry progressives didn'twork for you. They didn't end up
working for me either, justbecause I my eyes just didn't
take to them. Yeah. So, yeah. Soweird. So now I've got one
contact in that I kind of focuson my reading, and the other
contact that I focus on driving.
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Does your brain do it? Or do youhave to close your eye depending
on what you're doing? Well,probably because I've been doing
it for four years, just like,Yeah, this is what we like,
whatever works, none of the eyestrain. I mean, wearing the
progressive I was like, gettinga headache. I couldn't wait to
get the contacts out and allthat stuff. So, yeah, my brain
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just wouldn't do it. There wassomething weird where, like, the
edges, it just wasn't working. Idon't know I and I kept
thinking, Am I I don't know howthey work. Am I wearing these
wrong? Because if I looked outof the corner of my eye, no
double vision, and I was like,Okay, I feel like this is how
I'm supposed to be seeingthings. No, it's, yeah, I had
the same thing. It's like, yourbrain just won't do it. That was
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what my doctor told me, she'slike, some people, it's just
that their brain just can't makethat leap. But other people,
it's fine, but, yeah, it's, it'sjust it's weighted the way it
works, so it should naturallyfall where it needs to be that's
why? Yeah, well, I went toglasses because I have
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the stigma, stigmata.
My eyes bleed, but so I didn'trealize how low resolution my
contacts were until I put onglass and got Holy shit,
yeah, glasses now, yeah, Iconstantly feel like I'm going
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blind, but that's because mydaughter grabs my glasses and
either licks them or just putsher little fingerprints all over
them. So it's always like a filmacross them, Vaseline lens and
everything. Everybody looks sosoft and beautiful
and very hard to make out theedges
juicy. Okay, guys, let's talkabout movies. Oh sure, I saw
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together.
I'm so curious. This is theJames Franco Allison Brie film,
where they are undera bit of a problem, because this
film is being sued as a rip offof a low budget film that and
the lawsuit is a little weird,because apparently these guys
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who wrote the original Scriptfor their film, which is called
better half, they approachedFranco and Alison Brie as the
leads, and then couple yearslater, Franco and Allison Brie
are in a film that apparently isvery similar to theirs, but the
writer, director of this film islike I wrote this script years
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ago and filed it with the WGAand all this. So, you know,
things happen, yeah?
So this is this. This review isbased on not knowing if this
movie was ripped off or not.
Okay, fair enough. Hey, let'shope it was not ripped off,
because it's fucking awesome.
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It's great. Yeah, it is a bodyhorror film where these two
people start connecting, theystart kissing, and their lips
won't pull apart, you know. Sothere's a pretty horrific scene
where they have sex and thenthey can't, kind of pull apart.
And it looks very painful.
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And.
I thought that it was justreally, really good, not the
best horror film I've seen thisyear or anything like that, but
really solid indie filmmaking.
And I'm going to guess by thetime you hear this, it is at
least a rental on streaming, butdon't sleep on this is a really
good movie. It's calledtogether. Wow, excellent.
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Well, I'm a little little bummedI didn't end up seeing it, but
it's no Naked Gun, sochoices were made.
I had heard an interview on apodcast I listen to
with the guy, I'm forgetting hisname, who played the Grump. He's
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grumpy, and he played one of thedoctor, who's, do you know I'm
talking about? I think I knowyou're talking about, but I
don't, I cannot remember hisname for the life of me, which
is so stupid. But he was talkingabout the show that he was in,
and it's this British podcastteam, and they were like, Oh
yeah, that show is incredible.
And everyone in Britain lovesthis show. And I was like, Oh,
what the hell is this show?
Sounds interesting. So I watcheda couple year old show called
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The Devil's hour,which is about a serial killer
who is caught, and while beinginterviewed, reveals that
there's essentially multiplerealities, right? Okay, yes, I
remember, yeah, and he he feelslike he is killing people to
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better the world, essentially.
Oh, wow. This show is sofreaking good. And my first
thought watching it was, Kellywould love this. Yes, I forgot
all about this. I've seen thisand I did like it. Oh, yeah, the
third season is coming out inthis October, I believe. Oh, I
didn't know that. Wow, okay,that's so cool. It's still
going, still going strong. SoI've seen seasons ones and one
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and two. It's pretty easy to getthrough. I think there may be
like, six episodes each. It'snot, it's not a heavy lift, but
it goes some really interestingplaces. Things are not quite
what you think they are. And Ijust, I had such a good time
with it. So was very, yeah,really stoked. So Peter Capaldi.
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Peter Capaldi is his name. Thankyou, Eric. That's the devil's
hour. Is that on Netflix? It wason, yeah, prime, I think, okay,
yeah, I'm not sure that I sawthat the second season. Oh,
yeah, I would, I would keep,keep watching British, British
television procedurals arereally pretty damn good.
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Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so I saw onethat Kelly talked about a while
ago that I forgotten you talkedabout I watched it going, oh
Marshmallow,which, yeah, I actually really
enjoyed.
It's weird. It's very bizarre bythe end, yeah. But that's what I
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liked about it. And I've seen alot of people really hating on
the film, I think because itstarts off and you think it's
going to be a kind of a campslasher film, and then it
changes significantly.
But I thought it was reallyinteresting. The kids
performances are Jesus nextlevel. Good, good, yeah, and
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it's just well constructed andinteresting. And the cliches,
like some of the characters thebeginning, like Jesus, this is
about as painfully cliche as youcan be, but it's all for a
reason.
And I was like, Okay, this isreally interesting and really
needs to be, I think, celebrateda lot more than it is. This is
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definitely one that I think morepeople should be checking out.
If you like strange,weird horror films that may not
go where you hope or want themto go, but nonetheless go
someplace interesting. Where didyou check this out. It, I think
it's just like Amazon, or it'son, yeah, was it a rental? I
believe. SoI remember thinking, okay, you
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know, a new little Friday the13th trip off and and it was
different enough that I waslike, I think that I would not
have liked this if it was just aFriday the 13th. Yep, I've seen
plenty of those. Yeah, and thiswould have been maybe one of the
better executed ones, except forthe kills aren't necessarily
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Friday the 13th, right, if itmakes any sense, but I don't
know, yeah, definitely check itout. It is very interesting.
Yeah, good one. All right, guys,strange new worlds, new season.
Yes,I completely missed that that it
started up. I'mthinking the wrong thing. I've
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seen one episode.
Well, I'll give you a hot take.
This show is garbage. I havethis is every.
Thing I hate about Star Trek,and they're doing it all in this
season. I'm like, I cannot even,they can't even get Pike's hair
correct, which was the wholedraw for me.
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I did notice that it's like,what is going on with the
somebody messed up, they ran outof the gray or something. The
first episode was the conclusionof the cliffhanger from last
season, and it was okay, exceptthat I thought I was like, okay,
they're gonna build up the Gornto be this really cool villain,
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and instead is just kind of analien, rip off aliens, and then
right after that, we go into ayou know,
comedy episode where everybodyis brainwashed to thinking
something is different inreality. And then we go into
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just a holodeck episode, whichis a mystery thing set in the
60s. I think I should have lovedthat sounds great. It's garbage.
The writing is garbage. Theacting is garbage,
unfortunately. And the budgetlooks like it's been cut in
half. I'm like, Why are youcutting this in half? This show
is popular, isn't it gives themmore money. So I just like,
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Well, okay, you had me andyou've lost me. It's, it's been
a weird season. It definitelyhas done some big swings and
strange directions. I think Ienjoyed it much more than you
have. There's a speech duringthe holodeck episode that, like
I was pretty much tearing upduring because I was, it was I
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turned that episode off halfwaythrough. That was when I decided
I'm not watching the show. Ohyeah, there's about kind of the
power of science fictiontelevision and how it can affect
the viewers. And I just waslike, oh my god, this is such a
good speech. But yeah, some ofthe Gorn stuff gets a little
weird. The Spock romance stuffgets very strange. That's,
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that's the bit I'm not veryhappy about.
But I don't know. I'm still, I'mstill willing to watch him. I'm
still having a good time. It'snowhere near as irritating to me
as discovery. Discovery was justlike
pulling nails. I mean, everyseason is a different captain.
I'm like, I What is the show?
Literally, what is the show? Ilike the first one, and I'm
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watching going, I bet Kelly'shating this, because they're
doing a few little things. I'vegone. I'll bet he's not gonna
like this, that first one. I didlike, I like, Okay, well, let's,
let's keep going here. But,but afterwards,
you know, I feel likewhen those weird episodes
happened innext generation, stuff like
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that, I was like, Yeah, you kindof earned this. You've been on
the air for four years, orwhatever. You're gonna do some
wacky shit. It's kind of fun.
This, this show has not earnedthat stuff. First of all, their
seasons are less than half thelength of the old season, so you
don't really get a feel for allthese characters. So that when
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you throw them into these, thesewacky episodes, it's like, all
right, I'm I'm not having a goodtime with this. On top of that,
half of these characters we knowvery well from the original
series, and so then you startmaking them act completely
different. I'm like, okay, like,I'm fine with this, if you'll
continue on with now theoriginal series and just
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completely rewrite it, butthey're still trying to tie it
into the original series. I'mlike, Well, this, this now, is
not making this character workfor me anymore. So that's just,
I'm just bummed with it, butlike I've always said, I want
every show I like to either getcanceled or get bad, so I don't
have to watch it exactly. Yes,make room for something. Enjoy.
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I'm moving on from strange newworlds. That's, I think that's
sort of what happened withalthough I feel I need to go
back on a couple of them. That'skind of what happened with me.
With the Star Wars shows, I'mjust like, the the Luke
Skywalker one, just, no, youdon't want me to go back. Killed
Me. They did very bad as it's,like, you know what? I think I'm
done,yeah, the kid, I mean, there was
a couple decent ones, and theywere like the kid droid one,
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well, the last one, the one thateverybody bitch didn't get Emmy
Awards and all that stuff. OhAND, OR, AND, OR sounded AND,
OR, pretty good. Yeah, and, oris like its own, its own, in its
own class I didn't see. Is it asoccer not very good. Well, I do
get amused by people onlinecomplaining about horror and sci
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fi not getting awards like theydon't. They never have, they
never will. So who cares? Enjoythe show.
Yeah, get the effects awards.
Oh, it's me again, huh?
So I.
Yeah, Austin kept bugging me towatch my husband kept bugging me
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to watch this show. And I waslike, Oh, okay. And he's like,
people really love this thing. Ithink we gotta watch K Pop demon
hunter. And I was like, man, itjust sounds like such a like,
heavy ass manga shit that I'mjust, I'm not quite like, I like
anime, but I like solid,interesting, standalone anime. I
haven't really gone down a lotof the series tunnels,
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especially like the more Kittystuff. And I was like, I just
don't know. So we put it onit is so good, really? Oh my
God, it is anime. But it's like,it's well, so it's on Netflix,
and it's a Korean piece, but itis English. So it's, like, tied
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in. It's, it's loving on theKorean universe of like, k pop,
but it is an Americanproduction. Oh, so yeah. So
it's, yeah, it's not like you'rereading subtitles or anything
like that, that have lots ofbouncy music that you love. It
has the best music. I'm not evenkidding. It is like it's been
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going in the charts. Like a lotof the songs from it are in,
like, the top 10s of Spotify,and had been for weeks. They are
made up bands. They just broughtin people to put together songs
for this show. That's kind ofwhat k pop bands are, or
any of those together. And, youknow, tour these people, and
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they collab and whatever. No,they literally only just showed
up for this movie, and thenthey're not together. And so
they're like, uh, so they'remaking these soundtracks now,
because they're like, well,people love this music. It is so
good. The music is so so sogood. Yeah, man, I can't wait to
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hear the comments we're gonnaget on on you loving on this
show. Oh, my God, if You betterwatch it before you tell me that
it's, uh, no good Nobody. Nobodycan complain about this and me
watching it, unless you watch itand you decide that you don't,
which is possible. I think it'sprobably not for me, but I know
it's on like, Netflix's top 10for like, four weeks now. So I
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would you may be surprised. Youmay be surprised. It's got a lot
of hurt. It's got a lot of hurt.
You found his secret NSYNCalbums he has got hidden in the
back. You don't have to mean itjust for the music. There's good
stuff. And it's not really likepop music, like it has. I mean,
it's literally, genuinely verygood, well written songs with a
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lot of cool like drops and upsand downs and stuff. Cool. Yeah.
Anyway, all right. Well, Iwatched all the K Pop Demon
Hunter, yeah. And now I say thatI'm like, is it in English? I
think it was a pretty sure wasin English. But now my brain is
like, Wait, did I just magicallytake Korean and some videos and
make it they do both, usually,like, Netflix will have all
English or all subtitledversions. Don't know, yeah,
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well, yeah, but I really,genuinely don't know if it's
because, like, Ultraman risingwas just in English. It's not,
oh my god. Okay. Anyways,regardless, it's great. Yeah.
So I the 100 Days thing, youknow, with the horror before
Halloween, I start every yearwith a franchise that I've seen
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none of.
I've done puppet master, well, Iguess I saw one of Children of
the Corn, but that's out ofwhat, like eight movies or
something. So that seemed allright. And now I've done
underworld, oh, the under verse.
There are things to like aboutthis series. There are not a lot
of them. The biggest problemunderworld has, for me, is the
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by the time you watch all ofthem in quick fashion,
the theme of the thing keepsit's the same damn thing. Oh,
this new, never before seenversion of Wolf and vampire
combined. Will what powers willit have? What will it do? We're
never really, actually going tofind out, because they sort of
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start to have, like a finalscene where you kind of see the
powers of whatever this newbeing is. Then the movie ends,
and the next franchise startsout with a new person who's
going to have the except for theone where they went back in time
and did the kind of the originstory of
the war beginning, which thatwas a decent
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one. The werewolf effects areuniversally bad garbage, just
bad. Every once in a whilethey'd be transformed, and
almost looks like they use apractical and it looks good for
like, 30 seconds or something,but wow, man, for a movie that
has so many werewolftransformations, you think by
movie three or four, they'd haverefined it enough to where it
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looks good, but it nothey like, deleted the files
after every movie or somethingand just started anew with the
lower button.
Budgets, and it'sI had another really stupid
thing that annoyed the shit outof me, with that switches in
early 2000 things with a lot ofguns, where have these little
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like, 40 fives that are like,burp guns, like, shoot like,
like, like, Okay, your clipsempty,
unless the clips like this long,which generally doesn't bother
me in movies. But if a moviedoesn't have like it, I don't
give a shit about John Wu moviesnever having to reload because
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it's so much fun to watch. Whocares? Yeah, if you're not going
to be that good, maybe up it, orfigure out,
like in one episode or one ofthe movies, they kind of the
real world finds out aboutwhat's going on, and that's like
the first 20 minutes of movie,and seems to have been
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completely forgotten about afterthat. It goes back to, we're
over the vampires like, well,that seemed like an important
thing to have continued. Andthey invent like an aerosol
thing that sprays silver. Soit's like pepper spray that
wipes out werewolves. I'm like,why are you not using this all
the time?
It was really cool. They used itfor like three scenes, and never
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seemed to appear again. Going,it seemed like you've won the
war with this one weapon, right?
Just aerosol. Every room filledwith werewolves. We're good, but
it's I know there's people thatreally love this series, but,
and if I'd watched itintermittently as it came out
over the years, it might been alittle more, but as you watch
each one, and they're kind of sooddly similar. It really kind of
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gets boring. Yeah,you're watching them back to
back, yeah, like, then you canreally notice that stuff. I
assumed that people got into itbecause they just thought Kate
Beckinsale was hot. Well, as Isay, there is a reason. As a you
know guy, I can see why. Well,there's also a lot of hot guys,
although the lead guy in thebeginning,
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what's the guy who sing the highthe band from the 80s of the guy
who's really religious that gotkicked out of his band for being
such an asshole, they like thishair that sort of hung down.
Creed. Yeah, Creed. Their leadsinger, the guy who's the hybrid
magical, who knows what he'sgoing to be, has his hair, and
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it's so oddly distracting, whichkind of shows how deep the movie
is, that that was a majordistraction for me. So I'm glad
I watched him, just because it'ssuch a lexicon movie for a lot
of people. And yeah, CaitlinBeck and sell is she's fun to
watch. There's some neat actionscenes that they either did
needed to do more ofand tell less story, or do less
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of and figure out how to tellbetter stories. It sat in this
weird world of it's not asactiony and fun as RAID or giant
or any of the kill of all thingsthat are going on right now, and
it's not as interesting as areally well told story. That's
such a bummer. Yeah, that wasone of those ones. I was like, I
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should check these out for like,I think I saw the first two or
three. You're good.
It's definitely diminishingreturn. When I get to my 30 days
of hallway, 31 I will, uh, avoidthis. Then there you go,
underworld, yeah, I remember,like in the first movie, fine,
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yeah, yeah. I think they got introuble from White Wolf. Yes. I
do believe they got which isfunny, because White Wolf was
sued by Nancy Collins becauseshe felt like they had stolen
the idea. I think she won too.
Soif you like those movies, Nancy
Collins sunglasses after darkseries, much, much better. Cool.
Okay, gang, how about we take alittle break, and then when we
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come back, we are going to betalking about movies with
numbers in the title.
SoA, one, a, two, A, 345, a, six,
six. Surprise. It's six finger.
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It looks like your finger, butwatch them flip. It's a secret
weapon at your fingertip. Justpoint and fire six finger sends
and as it went, missile to yourfriends.
Fires kept loaded bombs and theyexplode. Has a ballpoint pen and
signals in code looks like afinger so no one can see who has
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six finger.
Shoots rockets that burst andbums that explode, and writes
with a pen and signals in cold,shoots message missiles and
watch them go and it looks likeyour finger. And how will they
know?
Here's how to get it on thecard, right there, less than $2
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everywhere. Six fingers. Sixfingers.
A man alive. How did I ever getalong with five?
And we're back.
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This was my sub genre pick, andthe idea was the film could have
a number, or the film must havea number in the title, but that
number can't be the sequelnumber or something like that.
So you could do a Friday the13th movie, because 13 is in the
title, but you couldn't doNightmare on Elm Street too.
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So yeah, yeah, could have doneJaws three damn No.
Okay, so I will start this offyou guys, and I'm talking about
a little slice of comedy fromthe 80s called Miz 45
every day on every street inevery city,
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women are insulted. What's thematter?
What's the matter with you? Youare you planning on going with
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someone?
Would you like to go with me?
Muchtoo beautiful to be a mother.
What's her secret?
What is she hiding?
Where is she going? I You 1981directed by Abel Ferrara, who
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has done movies like King of NewYork, Bad Lieutenant, Body
Snatchers, the addiction and theprojectionist, and written by
Nicholas St John, who has been ago to writer for Ferrara. His
writing credits on all thoseother films I mentioned, plus
fair city China Girl and thefuneral, and starring Zoe Lund,
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who has 12 credits specialeffects, exquisite corpses and
Bad Lieutenant. And then thereare a number of people in this
movie, which this is their onlyfilm, including Albert sinkus,
Darlene, stutto, Helen mcgarrah,and, of course, Abel Ferrara as
the first rapist. Yes, this is arape movie, fun.
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I know you've seen this, Eric,have you seen this? No, I have
not. I wasn't sure how he'sgonna feel about this film, but
it surprised me. Starts offpretty horrifically, though,
yes, it does. We meet ourprotagonist than who is a young,
mute girl walking home from workin New York City. It's not
nighttime or anything, but asshe passes an alley, a mask
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attacker grabs her, drags herinto the alley and then brutally
rapes her at gunpoint. We areabout one minute and 30 seconds
into this movie.
The rape scene isn't graphic,but the look on her face as all
of this is happening is prettyfucking hard to watch. The
rapist finishes, tosses heraside and runs out of the alley.
She somehow kind of collectsherself together and stumbles
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home to her apartment. Vanessa,there is a second assailant in
the apartment waiting for herwith a gun. She has raced a sec
raped a second time. Oh, my god,yeah. What the hell New York
as the rapist is finishing, shesmacks him with a solid glass
apple that she had on thenightstand. Then she bludgeons
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him to death with an iron likeyou would iron your not an iron
from the fireplace and iron youwould iron. She starts smacking
him in the head with thiscorners. Yeah.
She drags his body to thebathtub. It's very important to
know that this man has leftbehind his gun, which she now
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hasthe next day at work, she kind
of goes into a PTSD spiral whenshe sees her boss rip the shirt
off of a mannequin. She works asa seamstress, by the way, and he
starts screaming into all of herco workers, all of them females,
of course, which kind of sendsher to the floor.
Weeping. So they're like, whydon't you go home early? When
she gets home, she decides tostart dismembering the burglars
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body in the bathtub. The rapist.
Why'd I call him a burglar?
She places the pieces of thebody into plastic garbage bags
and stores them in herrefrigerator. There's some
pretty good gruesome stuff here,and she's not taking any of this
lightly, she is very, verydisturbed by everything that's
happened to her and what she isdoing to the body, even.
So her plan is to just kind ofstart dropping these body pieces
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off in various garbage cansaround the city, so that no one
will be able to track it to her.
And it seems like this willwork, except for one day, she
drops a bag in a garbage can,and there's a man there who
thinks that she has accidentallydropped the bag, so he picks it
up and starts following her. Andhe's like, hey, hey, she can't
hear him, or she can hear him,but she can't say anything to
him, and it appears that he iscoming after her and chasing
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her. Oh no, so she gets kind ofcaught in an alley with him, and
she blows him away with a gun.
Oh, well, shestarts getting pretty
comfortable with the idea ofkilling men who can't take no
for an answer, and that is thegist of this movie. She goes on
a quest for vengeance bytargeting and killing a fashion
photographer who keeps hittingon her, a pimp who assaults a
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prostitute in front of her,several gang members who
actually are trying to sexuallyassault her, a Saudi Arabian
businessman and his limousinedriver. And in a very strange
scene, she drives a recentlydumped salesman to suicide after
her gun jams. Her gun jams whenshe's about to kill him. He's so
shocked, he grabs the gun, andthen he's so depressed with
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everything, he blows his headoff. Oh my god, whoa. Holy hell.
Yeah. Film culminates in aHalloween party where she is
dressed up as a nun and is goingto just start blowing away all
of the men at the party. She hasgone completely insane. And I'll
be honest, I am there for it.
This movie was so much betterthan I thought it was going to
be. It is definitely sleazyexploitation New York trash, but
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it's pretty well acted, and Iwas riveted the entire time.
My favorite part is at theHalloween party, there is a live
band playing, and they focus ona guy playing the trumpet, but
is very clearly the sound of asaxophone.
Really good at the trumpet.
Eric than it never appears torun out of bullets. Nope, that's
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fine, and she frequently uses afull clip to kill each person.
Sure. Yep.
This was made on a tight budgetof $62,000 and was absolutely
reviled by critics when it cameout, when it came out, since
then, it has been re evaluatedand holds an 86% on Rotten
Tomatoes and a 6.8 on IMDb,which is pretty high. Little bit
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of trivia. Our protagonist isnamed Thana, and that seems to
be a play on the name Thanatos,which is the Greek god of death.
The film was first shown at theCannes Film Festival and then
the Milano Film Festival beforeits official release in August
of 1981than has only one word of dialog
in the film, but it is in thelast scene, and I'm not going to
tell you what it is. Andfinally, although the film is
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called ms 45 the handgun thatshe uses is a nine millimeter
star Mala BM, which looks a lotlike a Colt 4519 11, but is very
much not. Oh, this is Ms 45Yeah, I did that Walter Hill
thing where I watched all hisfilms. I kind of almost wanted
to do this with a fro then Ilooked up how many goddamn
movies this guy's directed.
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Yeah, so I spot watched, andthis was one of them. It's a
powerful film. It's the the thebeginning and the end scenes are
the one that stick in my head.
Yes, is it just out? You'reright. It's not. It's not like I
Spit on Your Grave graphic, buther performance is so
unsettling. The camera focuseson her face in both rape scenes,
and so she's just taking it. Andyou know, you can see the trauma
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that is happening right there onher face. And I was like, this
is far more disturbing than ifwe had actually seen, you know,
yeah. So I was, I was really,really impressed with this film.
The problem with able Ferrarisfilms is that there are a ton of
them that are just bad, yeah,yeah. When he hits, he hits
really well, but wow, when hedoesn't.
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You want to take us on a nextYeah, film, I will say this has
been one of my favoritechallenges. So many cool options
showed up, but I went with 2000ones. The one the people have
found you guilty of 123 countsof first degree murder and 123
counts of unauthorized travel toparallel universes. There's
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never been anything like what Ihave become for these crimes.
You have been sentenced to lifewithout the possibility of
return. Are you ready? Are youfreeze? You.
He's escaping.
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There's only one place he couldbe going, not a problem. What if
there was a killer travelingthrough parallel universes and
he looked just like you? Thegood news is you're not crazy.
The bad newsbefore I saw him, I failed him.
It was me.
What if he would stop at nothingto take over your world
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each time he kills one of you,the energy divides among the
survivors he's close to you.
Lost strength. Maybeit's part of what's been going
on with you. People get older,Gabe, they don't get stronger,
they don't get faster, all of asudden,
kill him. This whole universecould go with him,
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but just need to do it one moretime.
This is the only way to stophim. My own design, you that'll
work too.
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Miss me, the one.
The inwhich I had not seen before.
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This had a budget of 49 million.
Box office of 79.6 directed byJames Wong, who has nine
directing credits, 20 producing.
He did the final destinationfilm and Final Destination
three, Dragon Ball evolution andfour episodes in 911,
he produced the American HorrorStory series X Files and several
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other TV series written anddirected by Wong and Glenn
Morgan, who did X Files togetherthen went on together to do
several more films, includingFinal Destination, Willard Black
Christmas and eventually partedways. This is starring Jet Li 51
credits, including kiss of thedragon, The Expendables. Mulan
The Mummy, two month Dragon,Emperor hero, Lethal Weapon,
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four big star in China,obviously he did, Once Upon a
Time in China, the master andmany more. Delroy Lindo, 73
credits, including Get Shortythe core and most recently,
sinners. Jason Statham, 62credits with hair.
62 credits without snatch,transporter, crank Fast and the
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Furious The Meg beekeeper andCarla
juking, go Gino bugingo. We knowher from Mike Flanagan stuff,
she was awesome. AndFall of the House of Usher as
the whatever she was. She wasgreat. And recently I talked
about her being in Michael aslike a weird, random role. The
story is we live in a multiversewhere it is possible to travel
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between realities usingwormholes, but it is also
heavily regulated by the LASDpolice. Say, for one man who's a
serial killer, he has managed tocircumvent the system, and his
target is every version ofhimself. He's killed 123
versions and only has one left.
There is a kind of fear outthere that if he kills the last
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one, either the universe willend or maybe he'll just become a
god. And they're not completelywrong, because with each version
of himself he kills, he getsadditional strength and power.
He can defy gravity, strength,speed and time. But he is caught
and convicted for his crimes,and is about to be sent to a
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penal colony. When he ishe escapes in a very exciting
fashion that involves a mouseand his girlfriend anyway,
so he is off to find and killthe last version of himself.
Meanwhile, the final one, Gabelaw, is an LAPD officer in a
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world not unlike our own. It's alittle bit different, but
because then this one,George Bush Jr, is pro
healthcare. Sofor the last two years, he's
been experiencing increasingstrength, speed and mental
ability, but him and his wife,TK, don't really understand it
and what's going on whentransporting a prisoner, he has
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a sense of something weird thatis off and you law appears
attempting to take him out. Gabechases him down and is shocked
to see a version of himself. EUlaw escapes when two time cops
appear to try and arrest him,Gabe doesn't.
Want to tell his friend cops whoare not time cops what he saw,
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and really doesn't even want totell his wife, because it seems
too crazy. The rest of the film,we see you law, chasing after
Gabe and being foiled time andagain. Gabe then discovers that
he has equal power to you law,because the energy is equally
distributed between the twoleftover versions. He becomes
better at honing his skills anddiscovers that he must use his
training instead of his anger,to tap in and
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potentially defeat his rival.
The final showdown is in afactory somewhere. Shocking.
This film was awesome. It was somuch fun. I love the opening
scene where we think thishardened prisoner is the guy
that we're gonna be following,but it turns out that he's not,
and he gets murdered, and thensome other dude just starts
laughing over the top of him,and you're like, What the hell
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is happening right now? Theeffects age horrifically, but
are used so well. There's aweird spark scene where you're
like, Man, these sparks lookstupid as hell, but then all of
a sudden they're like, goingthrough them, and they bounce
off people, and it's like, overway over the top, but it just
like, works and looks awesome,but stupid at the same time. You
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would never guess about the facereplacement that's clearly being
used because you seethe same guy multiple, multiple,
multiple times. They obviouslyspent a lot of time on this. The
characters are super fun. Jet Liplays both versions of himself,
really, really well. The musicis intense. Choices. If anyone
ever asked me to what movie theycould watch to really get a
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feeling of the late 90s, earlyaughts, I would say watch this
film. It is so stylistic, it'sunreal between the shooting, the
sound effects, the specialeffects, and the music,
it kind of has a perfect ending.
It's very weird, but it works,kind of, I guess. I don't know.
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It's very strange, but I reallydig it. A little bit of trivia
before I wrap up. Originally,the film was to have starred
Dwayne The Rock Johnson beforeLee assumed the lead role.
Scenes involving Jet Li fightinghimself were shot using Lee and
a stuntman with a build similarto his. The stunt man's face was
painted green so that it couldbe digitally replaced with Lee's
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face. Later, Jet Li uses twodistinct kung fu styles when
portraying Gabe and you law, theevil you law uses jingzhi Quan,
or mind form fist, looselytranslated as can be seen when
he's training. It is a verylinear, offensive style. Gabe,
on the other hand, practicesbago Zhang or eight trigrams
palm. It is characterized byopen palm fighting with circular
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footwork. Both styles are two ofthe three main internal styles
of Chinese Kung Fu, the thirdbeing Taijiquan and the
University Medical Center whereGabe goes for an MRI is in North
Hollywood Medical Center wherethe popular sitcom scrubs was
filmed.
So that was my movie. I seemed Iremember liking this one. I
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think I've never seen it, but Ireally want to, oh, it's so fun.
It's so fun. It's so ridiculous.
It kind of reminds me of, is itdemo Demolition Man, the the one
where he goes in time in theseashells, yeah, yeah. It has
sort of similar feel to that inmy I really, yeah. I really dug
it. What happened to Jet Li? Hewas poised to become a big
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American action star. He was,and I think he was huge for a
while, but I wonder if it waslike the Chinese politics thing,
because during the shooting ofMulan, I think he was very pro
China and all the press stuff.
And I think he got some backlashfor that. But you can't be
Chinese and not live in Chinaand not be pro sure China and
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yeah, yeah. Like work real well.
That will not work well when foryour family or yourself. So
the one I'm gonna watch that,Eric, yeah, yeah. Kind of weird
this time, because I've seenboth of the films you've seen,
but I hadn't seen the one Ipicked. So the the
Star Wars fans among you willthink less of me, but I never
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saw Thx. 1138,what's wrong? What's wrong?
What's wrong Are you now?
What's wrong?
(49:30):
1138,prefix, Thx. Buy more. Buy more.
Now. Buy the oh boy andbe happy.
(49:52):
My mate has been acting verystrange. What's wrong? No.
No one knows. No one can see us.
This is City probe scanner.
(50:15):
We've run across some illegalsexual activity. Three you i
(51:09):
Crazy from 1971directed by George Lucas.
So as for movies, you know, healso edited this one. He also is
a writer on it with WalterMurch, who also did sound and
sound editing. He did soundediting for over 28 productions,
(51:30):
including Godfather apocalypse,now the Black Stallion and
Return to Oz. So he'sfar more known for that. He's
not really much her writer,the cast.
I'm like, I was going throughthis going, how the fuck did
George Lucas in 1967 when thiswas shot, put this cast
together. Then I noticed hesomehow got Francis Ford Coppola
(51:52):
involved as producer. Yeah, theywere very close. So the lead is
Robert Duvall. Might know fromtender mercies or Jack Reacher,
or the Godfather or ApocalypseNow, or any of his 146 films.
Donald Pleasance, probably bestknown in this crowd by
Halloween, but he's got 244credits. Don Pedro Cawley, who's
(52:14):
in Sugar Hill dead end, and lotsof television. Sid Haig
from bone home, Tomahawk andwell, you know, whole lot of
things. And Maggie mccomy, whoreally didn't do much else,
She's the lead woman, but shedidn't do a lot of other acting.
So the movie opens with a littleclip from an old buck rogers
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serial, which is kind ofinteresting.
This is an uncomfortable film,creepy and uncomfortable star,
with a peek into the world wherepeople complaining about
purchases and likes ofconsumption being standardized.
Everybody takes pills to feelbetter. As the movie goes on,
you figure out they are forcedto take pills to stay together.
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Get prosecuted for not takingdrugs.
The world is very 1984controlling, watching,
making you work. They havelittle pod kind of things or
booths you get in to do yourpsychotherapy with this big,
giant face.
(53:22):
And this is incredibly well donelittle movie. I gotta say, the
you could almost say a giantportion of the way 70 sci fi
movies looks can be traced rightback to this. There's few
others, but not a lot becamebefore 1971
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there's a lot of them followed,though the two people meet and
kind of try to make a go at itof having an actual physical
relationship that does not goover well.
Donald Pleasance, for somereason, decides that the Robert
Duvall character to make a goodroommate for him, and he says
(54:06):
he's got ways of manipulatingthe computer to make sure
they'll work together. DuVallseems to have no interest
whatsoever in that, but he doesget busted for not using drugs
and being a sexual deviant.
Yeah, it goes pretty bad. Fromthere, the trial
is kind of obvious farce, butreally interesting. It's fast
(54:30):
and weird, but very well done.
And the what makes one of theweird things to make this movie
so dark and uncomfortable is thedisembodied voices that are
controlling everybody's fate.
You see a lot of people, but youdon't really see people talking
very much, except for the fewleads you know, Duval and pleas
and the lady they speak. Butmost of the power behind the
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scenes, you're just hearingtheir voice. You're seeing them
at control centers and stuff,but you.
I highly recommend it. I gottasay, If you love sci fi,
there are many versions of this,because it's a George Lucas
thing. There's the original 1967student film 15 minutes,
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and the studio version, whichwas additional footage,
obviously shot, brought the 81minute version, but has never
been released in any home videoversion.
There's a restored version afterthe success of Star Wars, it was
re released with Lucas addingsome new footage in because he
(55:36):
couldstill didn't really do very
well.
Released on VHS at 88 minutesand laserdisc at 86 so then, of
course, in 2004 they said, youwant to do a new version? So he
went in, and they actually shotsome new footage, and they added
(55:59):
special effects that I don'tknow George Lucas is re needing
to do his films lens to so manythings that I guess he felt were
really important, but reallydon't add very much at all. Like
there's shots of the over, overthe THX, the computer that
weren't in the original. Okay,it looks kind of cool. He at
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like a scene where they breakout into this crowd of people.
He added, like hundreds ofpeople more to it, which kind of
make it look like a mess. Itlooked it looked fake. It looked
like there's now too manypeople. This doesn't make sense,
almost, but,man, it looks good. The rematch,
(56:42):
watched a Blu ray remasteredversion of it that
the original stuff looks reallygood. It was really re rated
from GP to R for the some of theoriginal footage, there's more
sex and nudity and stuff goingon when they
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are sexual deviants.
But,yeah, this is good, solid film.
Yeah, it's a cool looking withsome with some weird stuff.
The the therapist booths arepretty wild. And then when he
finds the source of the therapybooth, it's like, Oh, that makes
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it even more uncomfortable. Andthey do. It's pretty good,
pretty disturbing to watchunder, especially under our
current world of Yeah,everything being
like, Instagram, maps thing andall the shit gone out of that.
And, like, Yeah, I've seen thisonce before, and I remember
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thinking it looked cool, butbeing kind of bored, I should
it's deliberately paced, yes,for sure, yeah. It takes its
time. Yeah. It's definitely gota flavor that, if you haven't
watched a lot of sci fi, 70 scifi, it's gonna be weird. But I
thought it was fine. I did notfeel it very draggy at all.
Yeah,yeah. Well, I mean talking about
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stuff thatthe first time watch, and you
were a little surprised andeverything, he and Coppola were
really tight at this time. Theystarted zoetrope together, and
Lucas was supposed to directApocalypse Now, wow, so, but
then he finally got funding forStar Wars and turned that down.
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So they were all over the placewith, you know, working for each
other and working with eachother.
Pretty impressive consideringthe amount of work he had done
at that point. Francisdefinitely, well, Francis hadn't
done a lot either at that point,right, but he done enough,
right? I think Coppola just sawin him. He was like, this kid's
(58:53):
got something, yeah? So he wasright, yeah, for a while,
for a period, stop redoingbecause you think about he
follows this with AmericanGraffiti, which is fucking
amazing also, and then StarWars. So,
very cool. Okay, well, Eric, Ithink that means you've got the
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one.
Yeah. So we're looking, I thinkwe're looking at something with
a movie with a school or ateacher and like that, maybe
like little bit more of a formalteacher, not a
not the story writing trick ofthe person who comes in to teach
(59:38):
the Main Character thing,mentor, yeah, but somebody who's
actually hired or brought on asa teacher, I like this idea.
That should be really fun. Yeah,well, cool. That brings us to
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to do an evaluation without youwearing the contacts? Wow? And I
said, Well, I don't want thosecontacts. They didn't work for
me. And she just kind of looksat me and I
can be an asshole, believe it ornot. What I wanted to say was,
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look, I drove up parked right infront in a BMW that might have
set you off. Perhaps I look likeyour stepdad, who touched you
inappropriately when you werefive. I don't know. I didn't say
that. I said, Have I donesomething to piss you off?
And she goes, oh, oh, no. And Isaid, then what's going on here?
(04:06):
And she takes a breath. Shesays, How is the doctor supposed
to make a determination ifyou're not wearing the contacts?
And I said, I made thedetermination. Yeah, they don't
work for me. Yeah. And he toldme that there was this other
option, so I've come in for thatother option. And she goes,
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Well, you have to understandthat this is not how it's really
done. And I said, How about wepretend that when he gave me
that option, I chose this otherone and said, I don't want
progressive lenses. Let's justgo to this other option. Oh my
gosh. And she says,Give me a moment. Oh, talk to
(04:51):
the doctor. She comes back withnew lenses. She's this is for
your left eye. This is for yourright.
I if these work for you, give mea call, and we will have you
come in for your finalappointment. If these don't work
for you, give me a call. We willfigure something out. And I
wanted to say, if these work forme, you'll never see me again.
(05:14):
I'm going to order these offonline somewhere, and fuck you
guys. Yeah.
And then she says, Have a greatday, Kelly, oh my god, I just
said, you too. AndI was like, I'm gonna burn this
fucking place down to theground. So I am glad
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Fuck you guys. Holy crap. Imean, I've had pretty good
experiences with optometrists,but I I usually like Google and
find, like, really good onesnear me that are little mom and
pop shops. The doctors there aregreat. In fact, when I first
went there, and I've got thisguy with a British accent and
crazy hair, he's got me doingthe thing with my contacts, and,
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you know, and finally he says,Wait, are you wearing your
contacts. He goes, Okay, so youhave to take the test again. And
then he's like, Okay, this ismuch better. And by much better,
I mean, much much worse, okay?
And I'm like, I love this guy.
So the doctor is fantastic, butJennifer
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did not want to be there. Didnot want to be working there. So
I'm sorry progressives didn'twork for you. They didn't end up
working for me either, justbecause I my eyes just didn't
take to them. Yeah. So, yeah. Soweird. So now I've got one
contact in that I kind of focuson my reading, and the other
contact that I focus on driving.
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Does your brain do it? Or do youhave to close your eye depending
on what you're doing? Well,probably because I've been doing
it for four years, just like,Yeah, this is what we like,
whatever works, none of the eyestrain. I mean, wearing the
progressive I was like, gettinga headache. I couldn't wait to
get the contacts out and allthat stuff. So, yeah, my brain
(07:03):
just wouldn't do it. There wassomething weird where, like, the
edges, it just wasn't working. Idon't know I and I kept
thinking, Am I I don't know howthey work. Am I wearing these
wrong? Because if I looked outof the corner of my eye, no
double vision, and I was like,Okay, I feel like this is how
I'm supposed to be seeingthings. No, it's, yeah, I had
the same thing. It's like, yourbrain just won't do it. That was
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what my doctor told me, she'slike, some people, it's just
that their brain just can't makethat leap. But other people,
it's fine, but, yeah, it's, it'sjust it's weighted the way it
works, so it should naturallyfall where it needs to be that's
why? Yeah, well, I went toglasses because I have
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the stigma, stigmata.
My eyes bleed, but so I didn'trealize how low resolution my
contacts were until I put onglass and got Holy shit,
yeah, glasses now, yeah, Iconstantly feel like I'm going
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blind, but that's because mydaughter grabs my glasses and
either licks them or just putsher little fingerprints all over
them. So it's always like a filmacross them, Vaseline lens and
everything. Everybody looks sosoft and beautiful
and very hard to make out theedges
juicy. Okay, guys, let's talkabout movies. Oh sure, I saw
(08:33):
together.
I'm so curious. This is theJames Franco Allison Brie film,
where they are undera bit of a problem, because this
film is being sued as a rip offof a low budget film that and
the lawsuit is a little weird,because apparently these guys
(08:56):
who wrote the original Scriptfor their film, which is called
better half, they approachedFranco and Alison Brie as the
leads, and then couple yearslater, Franco and Allison Brie
are in a film that apparently isvery similar to theirs, but the
writer, director of this film islike I wrote this script years
(09:16):
ago and filed it with the WGAand all this. So, you know,
things happen, yeah?
So this is this. This review isbased on not knowing if this
movie was ripped off or not.
Okay, fair enough. Hey, let'shope it was not ripped off,
because it's fucking awesome.
(09:38):
It's great. Yeah, it is a bodyhorror film where these two
people start connecting, theystart kissing, and their lips
won't pull apart, you know. Sothere's a pretty horrific scene
where they have sex and thenthey can't, kind of pull apart.
And it looks very painful.
(09:59):
And.
I thought that it was justreally, really good, not the
best horror film I've seen thisyear or anything like that, but
really solid indie filmmaking.
And I'm going to guess by thetime you hear this, it is at
least a rental on streaming, butdon't sleep on this is a really
good movie. It's calledtogether. Wow, excellent.
(10:24):
Well, I'm a little little bummedI didn't end up seeing it, but
it's no Naked Gun, sochoices were made.
I had heard an interview on apodcast I listen to
with the guy, I'm forgetting hisname, who played the Grump. He's
(10:46):
grumpy, and he played one of thedoctor, who's, do you know I'm
talking about? I think I knowyou're talking about, but I
don't, I cannot remember hisname for the life of me, which
is so stupid. But he was talkingabout the show that he was in,
and it's this British podcastteam, and they were like, Oh
yeah, that show is incredible.
And everyone in Britain lovesthis show. And I was like, Oh,
what the hell is this show?
Sounds interesting. So I watcheda couple year old show called
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The Devil's hour,which is about a serial killer
who is caught, and while beinginterviewed, reveals that
there's essentially multiplerealities, right? Okay, yes, I
remember, yeah, and he he feelslike he is killing people to
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better the world, essentially.
Oh, wow. This show is sofreaking good. And my first
thought watching it was, Kellywould love this. Yes, I forgot
all about this. I've seen thisand I did like it. Oh, yeah, the
third season is coming out inthis October, I believe. Oh, I
didn't know that. Wow, okay,that's so cool. It's still
going, still going strong. SoI've seen seasons ones and one
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and two. It's pretty easy to getthrough. I think there may be
like, six episodes each. It'snot, it's not a heavy lift, but
it goes some really interestingplaces. Things are not quite
what you think they are. And Ijust, I had such a good time
with it. So was very, yeah,really stoked. So Peter Capaldi.
(12:18):
Peter Capaldi is his name. Thankyou, Eric. That's the devil's
hour. Is that on Netflix? It wason, yeah, prime, I think, okay,
yeah, I'm not sure that I sawthat the second season. Oh,
yeah, I would, I would keep,keep watching British, British
television procedurals arereally pretty damn good.
(12:42):
Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so I saw onethat Kelly talked about a while
ago that I forgotten you talkedabout I watched it going, oh
Marshmallow,which, yeah, I actually really
enjoyed.
It's weird. It's very bizarre bythe end, yeah. But that's what I
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liked about it. And I've seen alot of people really hating on
the film, I think because itstarts off and you think it's
going to be a kind of a campslasher film, and then it
changes significantly.
But I thought it was reallyinteresting. The kids
performances are Jesus nextlevel. Good, good, yeah, and
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it's just well constructed andinteresting. And the cliches,
like some of the characters thebeginning, like Jesus, this is
about as painfully cliche as youcan be, but it's all for a
reason.
And I was like, Okay, this isreally interesting and really
needs to be, I think, celebrateda lot more than it is. This is
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definitely one that I think morepeople should be checking out.
If you like strange,weird horror films that may not
go where you hope or want themto go, but nonetheless go
someplace interesting. Where didyou check this out. It, I think
it's just like Amazon, or it'son, yeah, was it a rental? I
believe. SoI remember thinking, okay, you
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know, a new little Friday the13th trip off and and it was
different enough that I waslike, I think that I would not
have liked this if it was just aFriday the 13th. Yep, I've seen
plenty of those. Yeah, and thiswould have been maybe one of the
better executed ones, except forthe kills aren't necessarily
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Friday the 13th, right, if itmakes any sense, but I don't
know, yeah, definitely check itout. It is very interesting.
Yeah, good one. All right, guys,strange new worlds, new season.
Yes,I completely missed that that it
started up. I'mthinking the wrong thing. I've
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seen one episode.
Well, I'll give you a hot take.
This show is garbage. I havethis is every.
Thing I hate about Star Trek,and they're doing it all in this
season. I'm like, I cannot even,they can't even get Pike's hair
correct, which was the wholedraw for me.
(15:12):
I did notice that it's like,what is going on with the
somebody messed up, they ran outof the gray or something. The
first episode was the conclusionof the cliffhanger from last
season, and it was okay, exceptthat I thought I was like, okay,
they're gonna build up the Gornto be this really cool villain,
(15:34):
and instead is just kind of analien, rip off aliens, and then
right after that, we go into ayou know,
comedy episode where everybodyis brainwashed to thinking
something is different inreality. And then we go into
(15:54):
just a holodeck episode, whichis a mystery thing set in the
60s. I think I should have lovedthat sounds great. It's garbage.
The writing is garbage. Theacting is garbage,
unfortunately. And the budgetlooks like it's been cut in
half. I'm like, Why are youcutting this in half? This show
is popular, isn't it gives themmore money. So I just like,
(16:18):
Well, okay, you had me andyou've lost me. It's, it's been
a weird season. It definitelyhas done some big swings and
strange directions. I think Ienjoyed it much more than you
have. There's a speech duringthe holodeck episode that, like
I was pretty much tearing upduring because I was, it was I
(16:41):
turned that episode off halfwaythrough. That was when I decided
I'm not watching the show. Ohyeah, there's about kind of the
power of science fictiontelevision and how it can affect
the viewers. And I just waslike, oh my god, this is such a
good speech. But yeah, some ofthe Gorn stuff gets a little
weird. The Spock romance stuffgets very strange. That's,
(17:03):
that's the bit I'm not veryhappy about.
But I don't know. I'm still, I'mstill willing to watch him. I'm
still having a good time. It'snowhere near as irritating to me
as discovery. Discovery was justlike
pulling nails. I mean, everyseason is a different captain.
I'm like, I What is the show?
Literally, what is the show? Ilike the first one, and I'm
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watching going, I bet Kelly'shating this, because they're
doing a few little things. I'vegone. I'll bet he's not gonna
like this, that first one. I didlike, I like, Okay, well, let's,
let's keep going here. But,but afterwards,
you know, I feel likewhen those weird episodes
happened innext generation, stuff like
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that, I was like, Yeah, you kindof earned this. You've been on
the air for four years, orwhatever. You're gonna do some
wacky shit. It's kind of fun.
This, this show has not earnedthat stuff. First of all, their
seasons are less than half thelength of the old season, so you
don't really get a feel for allthese characters. So that when
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you throw them into these, thesewacky episodes, it's like, all
right, I'm I'm not having a goodtime with this. On top of that,
half of these characters we knowvery well from the original
series, and so then you startmaking them act completely
different. I'm like, okay, like,I'm fine with this, if you'll
continue on with now theoriginal series and just
(18:35):
completely rewrite it, butthey're still trying to tie it
into the original series. I'mlike, Well, this, this now, is
not making this character workfor me anymore. So that's just,
I'm just bummed with it, butlike I've always said, I want
every show I like to either getcanceled or get bad, so I don't
have to watch it exactly. Yes,make room for something. Enjoy.
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I'm moving on from strange newworlds. That's, I think that's
sort of what happened withalthough I feel I need to go
back on a couple of them. That'skind of what happened with me.
With the Star Wars shows, I'mjust like, the the Luke
Skywalker one, just, no, youdon't want me to go back. Killed
Me. They did very bad as it's,like, you know what? I think I'm
done,yeah, the kid, I mean, there was
a couple decent ones, and theywere like the kid droid one,
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well, the last one, the one thateverybody bitch didn't get Emmy
Awards and all that stuff. OhAND, OR, AND, OR sounded AND,
OR, pretty good. Yeah, and, oris like its own, its own, in its
own class I didn't see. Is it asoccer not very good. Well, I do
get amused by people onlinecomplaining about horror and sci
(19:42):
fi not getting awards like theydon't. They never have, they
never will. So who cares? Enjoythe show.
Yeah, get the effects awards.
Oh, it's me again, huh?
So I.
Yeah, Austin kept bugging me towatch my husband kept bugging me
(20:03):
to watch this show. And I waslike, Oh, okay. And he's like,
people really love this thing. Ithink we gotta watch K Pop demon
hunter. And I was like, man, itjust sounds like such a like,
heavy ass manga shit that I'mjust, I'm not quite like, I like
anime, but I like solid,interesting, standalone anime. I
haven't really gone down a lotof the series tunnels,
(20:25):
especially like the more Kittystuff. And I was like, I just
don't know. So we put it onit is so good, really? Oh my
God, it is anime. But it's like,it's well, so it's on Netflix,
and it's a Korean piece, but itis English. So it's, like, tied
(20:45):
in. It's, it's loving on theKorean universe of like, k pop,
but it is an Americanproduction. Oh, so yeah. So
it's, yeah, it's not like you'rereading subtitles or anything
like that, that have lots ofbouncy music that you love. It
has the best music. I'm not evenkidding. It is like it's been
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going in the charts. Like a lotof the songs from it are in,
like, the top 10s of Spotify,and had been for weeks. They are
made up bands. They just broughtin people to put together songs
for this show. That's kind ofwhat k pop bands are, or
any of those together. And, youknow, tour these people, and
(21:31):
they collab and whatever. No,they literally only just showed
up for this movie, and thenthey're not together. And so
they're like, uh, so they'remaking these soundtracks now,
because they're like, well,people love this music. It is so
good. The music is so so sogood. Yeah, man, I can't wait to
(21:51):
hear the comments we're gonnaget on on you loving on this
show. Oh, my God, if You betterwatch it before you tell me that
it's, uh, no good Nobody. Nobodycan complain about this and me
watching it, unless you watch itand you decide that you don't,
which is possible. I think it'sprobably not for me, but I know
it's on like, Netflix's top 10for like, four weeks now. So I
(22:14):
would you may be surprised. Youmay be surprised. It's got a lot
of hurt. It's got a lot of hurt.
You found his secret NSYNCalbums he has got hidden in the
back. You don't have to mean itjust for the music. There's good
stuff. And it's not really likepop music, like it has. I mean,
it's literally, genuinely verygood, well written songs with a
(22:36):
lot of cool like drops and upsand downs and stuff. Cool. Yeah.
Anyway, all right. Well, Iwatched all the K Pop Demon
Hunter, yeah. And now I say thatI'm like, is it in English? I
think it was a pretty sure wasin English. But now my brain is
like, Wait, did I just magicallytake Korean and some videos and
make it they do both, usually,like, Netflix will have all
English or all subtitledversions. Don't know, yeah,
(23:02):
well, yeah, but I really,genuinely don't know if it's
because, like, Ultraman risingwas just in English. It's not,
oh my god. Okay. Anyways,regardless, it's great. Yeah.
So I the 100 Days thing, youknow, with the horror before
Halloween, I start every yearwith a franchise that I've seen
(23:22):
none of.
I've done puppet master, well, Iguess I saw one of Children of
the Corn, but that's out ofwhat, like eight movies or
something. So that seemed allright. And now I've done
underworld, oh, the under verse.
There are things to like aboutthis series. There are not a lot
of them. The biggest problemunderworld has, for me, is the
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by the time you watch all ofthem in quick fashion,
the theme of the thing keepsit's the same damn thing. Oh,
this new, never before seenversion of Wolf and vampire
combined. Will what powers willit have? What will it do? We're
never really, actually going tofind out, because they sort of
(24:08):
start to have, like a finalscene where you kind of see the
powers of whatever this newbeing is. Then the movie ends,
and the next franchise startsout with a new person who's
going to have the except for theone where they went back in time
and did the kind of the originstory of
the war beginning, which thatwas a decent
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one. The werewolf effects areuniversally bad garbage, just
bad. Every once in a whilethey'd be transformed, and
almost looks like they use apractical and it looks good for
like, 30 seconds or something,but wow, man, for a movie that
has so many werewolftransformations, you think by
movie three or four, they'd haverefined it enough to where it
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looks good, but it nothey like, deleted the files
after every movie or somethingand just started anew with the
lower button.
Budgets, and it'sI had another really stupid
thing that annoyed the shit outof me, with that switches in
early 2000 things with a lot ofguns, where have these little
(25:14):
like, 40 fives that are like,burp guns, like, shoot like,
like, like, Okay, your clipsempty,
unless the clips like this long,which generally doesn't bother
me in movies. But if a moviedoesn't have like it, I don't
give a shit about John Wu moviesnever having to reload because
(25:34):
it's so much fun to watch. Whocares? Yeah, if you're not going
to be that good, maybe up it, orfigure out,
like in one episode or one ofthe movies, they kind of the
real world finds out aboutwhat's going on, and that's like
the first 20 minutes of movie,and seems to have been
(25:55):
completely forgotten about afterthat. It goes back to, we're
over the vampires like, well,that seemed like an important
thing to have continued. Andthey invent like an aerosol
thing that sprays silver. Soit's like pepper spray that
wipes out werewolves. I'm like,why are you not using this all
the time?
It was really cool. They used itfor like three scenes, and never
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seemed to appear again. Going,it seemed like you've won the
war with this one weapon, right?
Just aerosol. Every room filledwith werewolves. We're good, but
it's I know there's people thatreally love this series, but,
and if I'd watched itintermittently as it came out
over the years, it might been alittle more, but as you watch
each one, and they're kind of sooddly similar. It really kind of
(26:40):
gets boring. Yeah,you're watching them back to
back, yeah, like, then you canreally notice that stuff. I
assumed that people got into itbecause they just thought Kate
Beckinsale was hot. Well, as Isay, there is a reason. As a you
know guy, I can see why. Well,there's also a lot of hot guys,
although the lead guy in thebeginning,
(27:05):
what's the guy who sing the highthe band from the 80s of the guy
who's really religious that gotkicked out of his band for being
such an asshole, they like thishair that sort of hung down.
Creed. Yeah, Creed. Their leadsinger, the guy who's the hybrid
magical, who knows what he'sgoing to be, has his hair, and
(27:26):
it's so oddly distracting, whichkind of shows how deep the movie
is, that that was a majordistraction for me. So I'm glad
I watched him, just because it'ssuch a lexicon movie for a lot
of people. And yeah, CaitlinBeck and sell is she's fun to
watch. There's some neat actionscenes that they either did
needed to do more ofand tell less story, or do less
(27:46):
of and figure out how to tellbetter stories. It sat in this
weird world of it's not asactiony and fun as RAID or giant
or any of the kill of all thingsthat are going on right now, and
it's not as interesting as areally well told story. That's
such a bummer. Yeah, that wasone of those ones. I was like, I
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should check these out for like,I think I saw the first two or
three. You're good.
It's definitely diminishingreturn. When I get to my 30 days
of hallway, 31 I will, uh, avoidthis. Then there you go,
underworld, yeah, I remember,like in the first movie, fine,
(28:29):
yeah, yeah. I think they got introuble from White Wolf. Yes. I
do believe they got which isfunny, because White Wolf was
sued by Nancy Collins becauseshe felt like they had stolen
the idea. I think she won too.
Soif you like those movies, Nancy
Collins sunglasses after darkseries, much, much better. Cool.
Okay, gang, how about we take alittle break, and then when we
(28:51):
come back, we are going to betalking about movies with
numbers in the title.
SoA, one, a, two, A, 345, a, six,
six. Surprise. It's six finger.
(29:13):
It looks like your finger, butwatch them flip. It's a secret
weapon at your fingertip. Justpoint and fire six finger sends
and as it went, missile to yourfriends.
Fires kept loaded bombs and theyexplode. Has a ballpoint pen and
signals in code looks like afinger so no one can see who has
(29:36):
six finger.
Shoots rockets that burst andbums that explode, and writes
with a pen and signals in cold,shoots message missiles and
watch them go and it looks likeyour finger. And how will they
know?
Here's how to get it on thecard, right there, less than $2
(29:57):
everywhere. Six fingers. Sixfingers.
A man alive. How did I ever getalong with five?
And we're back.
(30:17):
This was my sub genre pick, andthe idea was the film could have
a number, or the film must havea number in the title, but that
number can't be the sequelnumber or something like that.
So you could do a Friday the13th movie, because 13 is in the
title, but you couldn't doNightmare on Elm Street too.
(30:41):
So yeah, yeah, could have doneJaws three damn No.
Okay, so I will start this offyou guys, and I'm talking about
a little slice of comedy fromthe 80s called Miz 45
every day on every street inevery city,
(31:01):
women are insulted. What's thematter?
What's the matter with you? Youare you planning on going with
(31:26):
someone?
Would you like to go with me?
Muchtoo beautiful to be a mother.
What's her secret?
What is she hiding?
Where is she going? I You 1981directed by Abel Ferrara, who
(32:29):
has done movies like King of NewYork, Bad Lieutenant, Body
Snatchers, the addiction and theprojectionist, and written by
Nicholas St John, who has been ago to writer for Ferrara. His
writing credits on all thoseother films I mentioned, plus
fair city China Girl and thefuneral, and starring Zoe Lund,
(32:50):
who has 12 credits specialeffects, exquisite corpses and
Bad Lieutenant. And then thereare a number of people in this
movie, which this is their onlyfilm, including Albert sinkus,
Darlene, stutto, Helen mcgarrah,and, of course, Abel Ferrara as
the first rapist. Yes, this is arape movie, fun.
(33:17):
I know you've seen this, Eric,have you seen this? No, I have
not. I wasn't sure how he'sgonna feel about this film, but
it surprised me. Starts offpretty horrifically, though,
yes, it does. We meet ourprotagonist than who is a young,
mute girl walking home from workin New York City. It's not
nighttime or anything, but asshe passes an alley, a mask
(33:38):
attacker grabs her, drags herinto the alley and then brutally
rapes her at gunpoint. We areabout one minute and 30 seconds
into this movie.
The rape scene isn't graphic,but the look on her face as all
of this is happening is prettyfucking hard to watch. The
rapist finishes, tosses heraside and runs out of the alley.
She somehow kind of collectsherself together and stumbles
(34:01):
home to her apartment. Vanessa,there is a second assailant in
the apartment waiting for herwith a gun. She has raced a sec
raped a second time. Oh, my god,yeah. What the hell New York
as the rapist is finishing, shesmacks him with a solid glass
apple that she had on thenightstand. Then she bludgeons
(34:23):
him to death with an iron likeyou would iron your not an iron
from the fireplace and iron youwould iron. She starts smacking
him in the head with thiscorners. Yeah.
She drags his body to thebathtub. It's very important to
know that this man has leftbehind his gun, which she now
(34:44):
hasthe next day at work, she kind
of goes into a PTSD spiral whenshe sees her boss rip the shirt
off of a mannequin. She works asa seamstress, by the way, and he
starts screaming into all of herco workers, all of them females,
of course, which kind of sendsher to the floor.
Weeping. So they're like, whydon't you go home early? When
she gets home, she decides tostart dismembering the burglars
(35:06):
body in the bathtub. The rapist.
Why'd I call him a burglar?
She places the pieces of thebody into plastic garbage bags
and stores them in herrefrigerator. There's some
pretty good gruesome stuff here,and she's not taking any of this
lightly, she is very, verydisturbed by everything that's
happened to her and what she isdoing to the body, even.
So her plan is to just kind ofstart dropping these body pieces
(35:29):
off in various garbage cansaround the city, so that no one
will be able to track it to her.
And it seems like this willwork, except for one day, she
drops a bag in a garbage can,and there's a man there who
thinks that she has accidentallydropped the bag, so he picks it
up and starts following her. Andhe's like, hey, hey, she can't
hear him, or she can hear him,but she can't say anything to
him, and it appears that he iscoming after her and chasing
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her. Oh no, so she gets kind ofcaught in an alley with him, and
she blows him away with a gun.
Oh, well, shestarts getting pretty
comfortable with the idea ofkilling men who can't take no
for an answer, and that is thegist of this movie. She goes on
a quest for vengeance bytargeting and killing a fashion
photographer who keeps hittingon her, a pimp who assaults a
(36:15):
prostitute in front of her,several gang members who
actually are trying to sexuallyassault her, a Saudi Arabian
businessman and his limousinedriver. And in a very strange
scene, she drives a recentlydumped salesman to suicide after
her gun jams. Her gun jams whenshe's about to kill him. He's so
shocked, he grabs the gun, andthen he's so depressed with
(36:37):
everything, he blows his headoff. Oh my god, whoa. Holy hell.
Yeah. Film culminates in aHalloween party where she is
dressed up as a nun and is goingto just start blowing away all
of the men at the party. She hasgone completely insane. And I'll
be honest, I am there for it.
This movie was so much betterthan I thought it was going to
be. It is definitely sleazyexploitation New York trash, but
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it's pretty well acted, and Iwas riveted the entire time.
My favorite part is at theHalloween party, there is a live
band playing, and they focus ona guy playing the trumpet, but
is very clearly the sound of asaxophone.
Really good at the trumpet.
Eric than it never appears torun out of bullets. Nope, that's
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fine, and she frequently uses afull clip to kill each person.
Sure. Yep.
This was made on a tight budgetof $62,000 and was absolutely
reviled by critics when it cameout, when it came out, since
then, it has been re evaluatedand holds an 86% on Rotten
Tomatoes and a 6.8 on IMDb,which is pretty high. Little bit
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of trivia. Our protagonist isnamed Thana, and that seems to
be a play on the name Thanatos,which is the Greek god of death.
The film was first shown at theCannes Film Festival and then
the Milano Film Festival beforeits official release in August
of 1981than has only one word of dialog
in the film, but it is in thelast scene, and I'm not going to
tell you what it is. Andfinally, although the film is
(38:06):
called ms 45 the handgun thatshe uses is a nine millimeter
star Mala BM, which looks a lotlike a Colt 4519 11, but is very
much not. Oh, this is Ms 45Yeah, I did that Walter Hill
thing where I watched all hisfilms. I kind of almost wanted
to do this with a fro then Ilooked up how many goddamn
movies this guy's directed.
(38:27):
Yeah, so I spot watched, andthis was one of them. It's a
powerful film. It's the the thebeginning and the end scenes are
the one that stick in my head.
Yes, is it just out? You'reright. It's not. It's not like I
Spit on Your Grave graphic, buther performance is so
unsettling. The camera focuseson her face in both rape scenes,
and so she's just taking it. Andyou know, you can see the trauma
(38:54):
that is happening right there onher face. And I was like, this
is far more disturbing than ifwe had actually seen, you know,
yeah. So I was, I was really,really impressed with this film.
The problem with able Ferrarisfilms is that there are a ton of
them that are just bad, yeah,yeah. When he hits, he hits
really well, but wow, when hedoesn't.
(39:18):
You want to take us on a nextYeah, film, I will say this has
been one of my favoritechallenges. So many cool options
showed up, but I went with 2000ones. The one the people have
found you guilty of 123 countsof first degree murder and 123
counts of unauthorized travel toparallel universes. There's
(39:41):
never been anything like what Ihave become for these crimes.
You have been sentenced to lifewithout the possibility of
return. Are you ready? Are youfreeze? You.
He's escaping.
(40:04):
There's only one place he couldbe going, not a problem. What if
there was a killer travelingthrough parallel universes and
he looked just like you? Thegood news is you're not crazy.
The bad newsbefore I saw him, I failed him.
It was me.
What if he would stop at nothingto take over your world
(40:29):
each time he kills one of you,the energy divides among the
survivors he's close to you.
Lost strength. Maybeit's part of what's been going
on with you. People get older,Gabe, they don't get stronger,
they don't get faster, all of asudden,
kill him. This whole universecould go with him,
(40:50):
but just need to do it one moretime.
This is the only way to stophim. My own design, you that'll
work too.
(41:20):
Miss me, the one.
The inwhich I had not seen before.
(41:45):
This had a budget of 49 million.
Box office of 79.6 directed byJames Wong, who has nine
directing credits, 20 producing.
He did the final destinationfilm and Final Destination
three, Dragon Ball evolution andfour episodes in 911,
he produced the American HorrorStory series X Files and several
(42:06):
other TV series written anddirected by Wong and Glenn
Morgan, who did X Files togetherthen went on together to do
several more films, includingFinal Destination, Willard Black
Christmas and eventually partedways. This is starring Jet Li 51
credits, including kiss of thedragon, The Expendables. Mulan
The Mummy, two month Dragon,Emperor hero, Lethal Weapon,
(42:28):
four big star in China,obviously he did, Once Upon a
Time in China, the master andmany more. Delroy Lindo, 73
credits, including Get Shortythe core and most recently,
sinners. Jason Statham, 62credits with hair.
62 credits without snatch,transporter, crank Fast and the
(42:51):
Furious The Meg beekeeper andCarla
juking, go Gino bugingo. We knowher from Mike Flanagan stuff,
she was awesome. AndFall of the House of Usher as
the whatever she was. She wasgreat. And recently I talked
about her being in Michael aslike a weird, random role. The
story is we live in a multiversewhere it is possible to travel
(43:16):
between realities usingwormholes, but it is also
heavily regulated by the LASDpolice. Say, for one man who's a
serial killer, he has managed tocircumvent the system, and his
target is every version ofhimself. He's killed 123
versions and only has one left.
There is a kind of fear outthere that if he kills the last
(43:39):
one, either the universe willend or maybe he'll just become a
god. And they're not completelywrong, because with each version
of himself he kills, he getsadditional strength and power.
He can defy gravity, strength,speed and time. But he is caught
and convicted for his crimes,and is about to be sent to a
(43:59):
penal colony. When he ishe escapes in a very exciting
fashion that involves a mouseand his girlfriend anyway,
so he is off to find and killthe last version of himself.
Meanwhile, the final one, Gabelaw, is an LAPD officer in a
(44:21):
world not unlike our own. It's alittle bit different, but
because then this one,George Bush Jr, is pro
healthcare. Sofor the last two years, he's
been experiencing increasingstrength, speed and mental
ability, but him and his wife,TK, don't really understand it
and what's going on whentransporting a prisoner, he has
(44:42):
a sense of something weird thatis off and you law appears
attempting to take him out. Gabechases him down and is shocked
to see a version of himself. EUlaw escapes when two time cops
appear to try and arrest him,Gabe doesn't.
Want to tell his friend cops whoare not time cops what he saw,
(45:04):
and really doesn't even want totell his wife, because it seems
too crazy. The rest of the film,we see you law, chasing after
Gabe and being foiled time andagain. Gabe then discovers that
he has equal power to you law,because the energy is equally
distributed between the twoleftover versions. He becomes
better at honing his skills anddiscovers that he must use his
training instead of his anger,to tap in and
(45:26):
potentially defeat his rival.
The final showdown is in afactory somewhere. Shocking.
This film was awesome. It was somuch fun. I love the opening
scene where we think thishardened prisoner is the guy
that we're gonna be following,but it turns out that he's not,
and he gets murdered, and thensome other dude just starts
laughing over the top of him,and you're like, What the hell
(45:48):
is happening right now? Theeffects age horrifically, but
are used so well. There's aweird spark scene where you're
like, Man, these sparks lookstupid as hell, but then all of
a sudden they're like, goingthrough them, and they bounce
off people, and it's like, overway over the top, but it just
like, works and looks awesome,but stupid at the same time. You
(46:10):
would never guess about the facereplacement that's clearly being
used because you seethe same guy multiple, multiple,
multiple times. They obviouslyspent a lot of time on this. The
characters are super fun. Jet Liplays both versions of himself,
really, really well. The musicis intense. Choices. If anyone
ever asked me to what movie theycould watch to really get a
(46:31):
feeling of the late 90s, earlyaughts, I would say watch this
film. It is so stylistic, it'sunreal between the shooting, the
sound effects, the specialeffects, and the music,
it kind of has a perfect ending.
It's very weird, but it works,kind of, I guess. I don't know.
(46:52):
It's very strange, but I reallydig it. A little bit of trivia
before I wrap up. Originally,the film was to have starred
Dwayne The Rock Johnson beforeLee assumed the lead role.
Scenes involving Jet Li fightinghimself were shot using Lee and
a stuntman with a build similarto his. The stunt man's face was
painted green so that it couldbe digitally replaced with Lee's
(47:14):
face. Later, Jet Li uses twodistinct kung fu styles when
portraying Gabe and you law, theevil you law uses jingzhi Quan,
or mind form fist, looselytranslated as can be seen when
he's training. It is a verylinear, offensive style. Gabe,
on the other hand, practicesbago Zhang or eight trigrams
palm. It is characterized byopen palm fighting with circular
(47:38):
footwork. Both styles are two ofthe three main internal styles
of Chinese Kung Fu, the thirdbeing Taijiquan and the
University Medical Center whereGabe goes for an MRI is in North
Hollywood Medical Center wherethe popular sitcom scrubs was
filmed.
So that was my movie. I seemed Iremember liking this one. I
(48:02):
think I've never seen it, but Ireally want to, oh, it's so fun.
It's so fun. It's so ridiculous.
It kind of reminds me of, is itdemo Demolition Man, the the one
where he goes in time in theseashells, yeah, yeah. It has
sort of similar feel to that inmy I really, yeah. I really dug
it. What happened to Jet Li? Hewas poised to become a big
(48:22):
American action star. He was,and I think he was huge for a
while, but I wonder if it waslike the Chinese politics thing,
because during the shooting ofMulan, I think he was very pro
China and all the press stuff.
And I think he got some backlashfor that. But you can't be
Chinese and not live in Chinaand not be pro sure China and
(48:43):
yeah, yeah. Like work real well.
That will not work well when foryour family or yourself. So
the one I'm gonna watch that,Eric, yeah, yeah. Kind of weird
this time, because I've seenboth of the films you've seen,
but I hadn't seen the one Ipicked. So the the
Star Wars fans among you willthink less of me, but I never
(49:07):
saw Thx. 1138,what's wrong? What's wrong?
What's wrong Are you now?
What's wrong?
(49:30):
1138,prefix, Thx. Buy more. Buy more.
Now. Buy the oh boy andbe happy.
(49:52):
My mate has been acting verystrange. What's wrong? No.
No one knows. No one can see us.
This is City probe scanner.
(50:15):
We've run across some illegalsexual activity. Three you i
(51:09):
Crazy from 1971directed by George Lucas.
So as for movies, you know, healso edited this one. He also is
a writer on it with WalterMurch, who also did sound and
sound editing. He did soundediting for over 28 productions,
(51:30):
including Godfather apocalypse,now the Black Stallion and
Return to Oz. So he'sfar more known for that. He's
not really much her writer,the cast.
I'm like, I was going throughthis going, how the fuck did
George Lucas in 1967 when thiswas shot, put this cast
together. Then I noticed hesomehow got Francis Ford Coppola
(51:52):
involved as producer. Yeah, theywere very close. So the lead is
Robert Duvall. Might know fromtender mercies or Jack Reacher,
or the Godfather or ApocalypseNow, or any of his 146 films.
Donald Pleasance, probably bestknown in this crowd by
Halloween, but he's got 244credits. Don Pedro Cawley, who's
(52:14):
in Sugar Hill dead end, and lotsof television. Sid Haig
from bone home, Tomahawk andwell, you know, whole lot of
things. And Maggie mccomy, whoreally didn't do much else,
She's the lead woman, but shedidn't do a lot of other acting.
So the movie opens with a littleclip from an old buck rogers
(52:35):
serial, which is kind ofinteresting.
This is an uncomfortable film,creepy and uncomfortable star,
with a peek into the world wherepeople complaining about
purchases and likes ofconsumption being standardized.
Everybody takes pills to feelbetter. As the movie goes on,
you figure out they are forcedto take pills to stay together.
(53:00):
Get prosecuted for not takingdrugs.
The world is very 1984controlling, watching,
making you work. They havelittle pod kind of things or
booths you get in to do yourpsychotherapy with this big,
giant face.
(53:22):
And this is incredibly well donelittle movie. I gotta say, the
you could almost say a giantportion of the way 70 sci fi
movies looks can be traced rightback to this. There's few
others, but not a lot becamebefore 1971
(53:43):
there's a lot of them followed,though the two people meet and
kind of try to make a go at itof having an actual physical
relationship that does not goover well.
Donald Pleasance, for somereason, decides that the Robert
Duvall character to make a goodroommate for him, and he says
(54:06):
he's got ways of manipulatingthe computer to make sure
they'll work together. DuVallseems to have no interest
whatsoever in that, but he doesget busted for not using drugs
and being a sexual deviant.
Yeah, it goes pretty bad. Fromthere, the trial
is kind of obvious farce, butreally interesting. It's fast
(54:30):
and weird, but very well done.
And the what makes one of theweird things to make this movie
so dark and uncomfortable is thedisembodied voices that are
controlling everybody's fate.
You see a lot of people, but youdon't really see people talking
very much, except for the fewleads you know, Duval and pleas
and the lady they speak. Butmost of the power behind the
(54:51):
scenes, you're just hearingtheir voice. You're seeing them
at control centers and stuff,but you.
I highly recommend it. I gottasay, If you love sci fi,
there are many versions of this,because it's a George Lucas
thing. There's the original 1967student film 15 minutes,
(55:15):
and the studio version, whichwas additional footage,
obviously shot, brought the 81minute version, but has never
been released in any home videoversion.
There's a restored version afterthe success of Star Wars, it was
re released with Lucas addingsome new footage in because he
(55:36):
couldstill didn't really do very
well.
Released on VHS at 88 minutesand laserdisc at 86 so then, of
course, in 2004 they said, youwant to do a new version? So he
went in, and they actually shotsome new footage, and they added
(55:59):
special effects that I don'tknow George Lucas is re needing
to do his films lens to so manythings that I guess he felt were
really important, but reallydon't add very much at all. Like
there's shots of the over, overthe THX, the computer that
weren't in the original. Okay,it looks kind of cool. He at
(56:21):
like a scene where they breakout into this crowd of people.
He added, like hundreds ofpeople more to it, which kind of
make it look like a mess. Itlooked it looked fake. It looked
like there's now too manypeople. This doesn't make sense,
almost, but,man, it looks good. The rematch,
(56:42):
watched a Blu ray remasteredversion of it that
the original stuff looks reallygood. It was really re rated
from GP to R for the some of theoriginal footage, there's more
sex and nudity and stuff goingon when they
(57:07):
are sexual deviants.
But,yeah, this is good, solid film.
Yeah, it's a cool looking withsome with some weird stuff.
The the therapist booths arepretty wild. And then when he
finds the source of the therapybooth, it's like, Oh, that makes
(57:28):
it even more uncomfortable. Andthey do. It's pretty good,
pretty disturbing to watchunder, especially under our
current world of Yeah,everything being
like, Instagram, maps thing andall the shit gone out of that.
And, like, Yeah, I've seen thisonce before, and I remember
(57:48):
thinking it looked cool, butbeing kind of bored, I should
it's deliberately paced, yes,for sure, yeah. It takes its
time. Yeah. It's definitely gota flavor that, if you haven't
watched a lot of sci fi, 70 scifi, it's gonna be weird. But I
thought it was fine. I did notfeel it very draggy at all.
Yeah,yeah. Well, I mean talking about
(58:10):
stuff thatthe first time watch, and you
were a little surprised andeverything, he and Coppola were
really tight at this time. Theystarted zoetrope together, and
Lucas was supposed to directApocalypse Now, wow, so, but
then he finally got funding forStar Wars and turned that down.
(58:32):
So they were all over the placewith, you know, working for each
other and working with eachother.
Pretty impressive consideringthe amount of work he had done
at that point. Francisdefinitely, well, Francis hadn't
done a lot either at that point,right, but he done enough,
right? I think Coppola just sawin him. He was like, this kid's
(58:53):
got something, yeah? So he wasright, yeah, for a while,
for a period, stop redoingbecause you think about he
follows this with AmericanGraffiti, which is fucking
amazing also, and then StarWars. So,
very cool. Okay, well, Eric, Ithink that means you've got the
(59:14):
one.
Yeah. So we're looking, I thinkwe're looking at something with
a movie with a school or ateacher and like that, maybe
like little bit more of a formalteacher, not a
not the story writing trick ofthe person who comes in to teach
(59:38):
the Main Character thing,mentor, yeah, but somebody who's
actually hired or brought on asa teacher, I like this idea.
That should be really fun. Yeah,well, cool. That brings us to
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