GODS, EMPIRES & THE OCCULT | Ryan Gable Returns! - Strange Brew Podcast!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:06):
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Speaker 5 (01:08):
We're here to entertain you. It's a bet to get strange.

Speaker 6 (01:21):
Welcome back to the show, everybody, Welcome back. I'm Tom
kat Ak, Tom Thompson, don't rap Tillian. You can find
my music on all music platforms. I'm very excited for
this guest that will be a familiar voice for all
the people that clearly enjoyed the episode. I can tell
by the downloads and the view. So welcome back, Ryan Gables.

(01:41):
You want to introduce yourself again for the fans that
maybe didn't tune into the first episode.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, thank you for having me back on the show.
I'm happy to learn that the show did very well
last time. I hope that's a good thing. And the
people that really enjoyed it maybe didn't take what I
said out of context, because it very well could be
taken on text.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
I take everything out of context.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Oh yes, you should have seen this interview I did
on I did an interview on Info Wars one time,
and the people there took out of context my book
collection and found one book they didn't like and painted
me as that individual close. It was a book by
Archie Brown on the history of Communism, The Horrible History
of Communism, and the Info Warriors accused me of being

(02:24):
a communist because apparently they've never read that book.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
What book is it, because I would love to read it.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's just called Communism The Rise and Fall or I
think it's The Rise and Fall of Communism Brown he
was an Ivy League professor.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Okay, that's a really good book.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
Yeah, well, we'll get into a cage teller because I'm
so excited for this.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's why I don't have books behind anymore. You can
take things out of context. So anyway, my name is
Ryan Gable and my show is called The Secret Teachings.
I was doing this before it was a popular thing
on college radio and on I did a radio stint
on w r S, which was CBS Radio in Orlando,
and then I've been on a bunch of other networks.

(03:04):
My show focus is on symbolism and occultism, theology, anthropology, mythology, etc.
I try to apply that to what's happening today and
also trying to find objective context to the past.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
That's my goal.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I'm not trying to convince an audience of a particular
point of view. I'm just trying to present things so
hopefully we can live more harmoniously together by finding that
we have a lot more in common than we have different.
That's i'd say more recently, that's kind of been my
goal with the show.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Thank you for having me back on.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Yeah, man, that's a great point of view to have
because like we've covered some controversial stuff on the show,
like the protocols why my republic clergy plan has been
out on and rumbling YouTube's not even out on the
audio yet.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Time this comes out, it will be.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
But I've chosen to push the boundaries on things, especially
recently because I've I'm like, you know, I have the
platform to do it. I want to really show people like, hey,
this is kind of weird, what's going on? Even we
did the protocols, I really try to do it in
a way of like, hey, this is them saying it.
We showed videos and clips of obviously the Zionists stuff

(04:13):
that was going on, Like I would try to be
objective like why are they saying this? Why is this happening? Why?
You know? So, I and my whole point of view
has always been to try to bring people together. There
will always be people that have been conditioned and brainwashed
to create more and more division and stuff like that, right,
But I want to have fun with the show too,
at someone stay. That's how I started the show. I

(04:35):
have so many thoughts when we were like, hey, what
could we get into because you have you've been doing
this for a long time. I was thinking just for
something to start off fun maybe before I have some
other questions, what do you think about like cryptids, Like
what do you think is behind like the whole cryptid stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, that's that's a good question, an unexpected question.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Yeah, I was like thinking what I was gonna do.
I would be fine.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I would say that cryptids were one of the and
I don't mean this in a dismissive way, one of
the least interesting things to me when I first began.
That doesn't mean I wasn't interested. It doesn't mean I'm
not interested in cryptids.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
In fact, my.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Favorite cryptid is Mothman because I lived in West Virginia.
I've been to Point Pleasant, I have a friend from
Point Pleasant too, and Mothman's a really fascinating story. In fact,
West Virginia has a bunch of cryptids. We have the
Grafton Monster, we have the Starly Gaster, we have the Mothman.
And there's a lot of bigfoots, including around the city

(05:36):
that I lived in and went to high school in Morgantown,
which is not too far from Grafton. There's a bunch
of bigfoot sightings there because it's very dense forests. It's
most of West Virginia. So yeah, I am very interested
in cryptids. I think that cryptids, like anything else, can
be argued to be anything that you imagine them to be.
I've heard that there are connections between bigfoot sightings and

(05:59):
UFO sidings, and I've heard some people suggest that bigfoots
are kind of either connected to where they're almost in
a humorous way, they're almost like a pet of the
of the aliens or something to that effect, which I
think is silly. But I've heard that. I've heard that
bigfoots are interdimensional. If you go to a bigfoot conference,
ooh boy, do they love to argue there's a spiritual

(06:19):
bigfoot came from another dimension side, and then there's a
bigfoot is a physical ape creature, and they fight with
each other, and they've got their groupies. And that's just
a world that I'm fascinated by. But I don't really
live much of my life in.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
Because I was just curious, just curious what you thought,
because I was listening to our intro and I'm like,
I just want to see what you thought.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
It gets that world gets sillier quicker than I think
any other field. But I I mean, if you could
show me evidence of something, I don't have an issue
believing it.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
I mean, to me, it's just a it's a.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Fact, all of these different stories, whether it's Mothman, Bigfoot,
Starly Gaster, Skunk, Apey like, I think they're fascinating. I
think they probably has something to do with miss. Like
if you build a I guess, if you build like
an understanding of what these things are like, with UFOs
or anything else, you've got like a baseline of people

(07:15):
miss understanding what they've seen, people that yes, sometimes people
are drinking, sometimes people are on drugs. Sometimes people misidentify
things in the middle of the night they're in the woods.
Things get creepy and scary, the lines between reality and
fantasy kind of get blurred. And then you build it up,
and then you have people that go looking for those things,

(07:36):
and then they will find them, and you have people
that go looking to disprove those things, and they'll find
proof that they don't exist. And you just kind of
keep building this thing up and looking at the different
layers of it.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
That's what I try to do.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I'mless, so I guess to answer your question, I'm interested
in it.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Mothman's one of my favorite stories.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think that Mothman in particular had something to do
with the military, or let's say in quotations the government,
not that it was a government conspiracy, but I think
that there was some sort of maybe military involvement with.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
The monster kind of thing, where they maybe developed it, or.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
I think it was maybe more of a hallucination due to.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Drugs and sprayed.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
And I think that it also relates in part to
the Green Monster, which is the Braxton Monster, one of
the more iconic monsters in the cryptid cryptid field. I
went to Braxton. Braxton has a museum for the monster.
It's a little small museum. It's like an apartment sized museum, look,
and that is one of the most distinct cryptids I've

(08:46):
ever seen.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
It's fascinated.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's only about thirty Maybe I'm getting this wrong, but
I think it's about thirty to forty five minutes maybe
within an hour of Point Pleasant, where the Mothman was sighted.
So that those are very distinct monsters, and that particular
one also has a weird military connection, because the military
claimed it was a satellite that went down, and they
actually showed up on the scene and there was a

(09:09):
very weird smell in the air reported by the people
that saw it. So I think that there was a
military connection to that and that's just another layer. But
those are some of my initial thoughts.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
Yeah, and do you think that it is possible that
like things like cern if they are attempting to like,
you know, smash particles all the things that the government
and the military some of the experience that they've done,
do you think it's possible that they could essentially put
like take like rip open our reality to like let

(09:40):
things in.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Well, it's speculative and it's theoretical. I've speculated on this myself.
I mean it's part of the UFO mythology that you
have the atomic bomb tests in well, you have the
history that's official of atomic bomb tests, and then you
have the unofficial but document history of the Germans detonating

(10:04):
I suppose you could call them atomic bombs disintegration bombs,
I think is the term they used. You have Italian correspondence,
you have German pilots flying heinkelbombers that saw mushroom clouds
that they were detonating bombs similar to atomic weapons or
their own atomic weapons before the United States.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Had the bomb.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
That's a whole other piece of interesting history with the
missing U boat and the uranium. But if you go
beyond that, right after the detonation of those bombs, both
at Trinity and also in Japan, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, you
have the two year window roughly, and then you have
the incident with Kenneth Arnold and you have the Roswell story,

(10:49):
all happening within a couple of weeks of each other.
So some people have speculated that because of the atomic bombs,
they've sent out signals to the universe, or they've opened
up dimensional portals or gateways, and that's brought these extraterrestrials,
these extra dimensionals into our world, whether it pulled them
in by accident or by curiosity or by concern. It's

(11:11):
something that has been part of the u of FOM
mythology for a while. Again, it's speculative and it's theoretical.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Do you personally believe that there is interdimensional beings?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I suppose it would depend on how you define interdimensional beings.
I've had experiences since I was a child with things
that were written off by family who were mostly Christian,
written off mostly as demonic. And then as I learned
more and more about the paranormal or learn more about
let's even say cryptids, having especially lived in West Virginia

(11:46):
that I started to think, well, maybe it's something different,
and maybe it's like, yeah, maybe it's some dimensional monster.
These ideas are things that you know, I hear on
the Discovery Channel, I hear it heard on the History Channel,
I heard on like Art Bell, and then I sort
of develop my own view of it, where I, you know,
it's a case by case basis. I don't have any
idea for sure. I would be lying if I said

(12:07):
that I did. But I do think that there's a
maybe not dimensional, but for lack of a better word,
spiritual or etherory or otherworldly, whatever word applies. There's something
else happening there. And I think that a lot of
it has to do with and by drugs, I don't
mean taking drugs, but it has to do with chemicals

(12:29):
and what we would call drugs if they were outside
of the body, like DMT for example.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah, I've told you I did. I watch them.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
I've done a lot of mushrooms, and I've seen stuff
that I can't explain. Man that I'm like that it
feels like something's been has watched me. I've looked through
the fractals because it looks like these translucent like ancient patterns.
It's like an ancient pattern, like all these like almost
tribal patterns, and I've looked through that them, I've seen

(12:56):
like demonic faces and like essentially told them to get
out of my like surrounding.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
But it's weird.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
I've watched horror movies in my backyard with near a
fire with a projector and felt like a dome surrounding me.
I've had so many different experiences the fans know about
on mushrooms, and uh, it's weird, like I feel connected
to something different.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
See, I've never I've never taken mushrooms, billy mushrooms that
I eat or shiataki mushrooms.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I like she had talked it's about it.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
But I say that because you've taken them, you've done
these types of substances. I've never done those types of substances.
And yet when I was a child, I'd say between
the ages of you know, toddler and probably ten years
old and even older, I saw the same kinds of things. Now,
I don't write a book about it and make up
a story like Corey Good did. However, I did have

(13:47):
I'm sure a lot of people have had similar experiences
and depending on the environment you grew up in.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
If you're a Christian, you grew up and you think
those are demons.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
If you have parents that are maybe more into the
I don't know what you would call it, in to
magic or into supernatural things, and you might call it
spirits or ghosts or whatever environment you grow up in,
you have a term for it.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Whatever it is that's.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Happening is something that that's happening, but we just call
it something different. My point being though, that I had
similar experiences. I saw you use the word tribal. I
saw certain tribal type patterns and weird things without ever
having taken a substance, without ever having taken a drug. However,
I will say that, like most Americans, I had a

(14:30):
really awful diet as a child and eight horrible things,
and I would imagine that that has some contributing power
to it.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
And in the same way that if you talk to.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I'm not sure how to say this, but if you
talk to I want to say, a real psychic who
is very aware of their body and mind, A real
psychic will tell you that the more you consume animal
products and processed foods, the more that it becomes difficult
to access the other side, is yeah, which is part
part of the tradition in religious spiritual texts. It's part

(15:03):
of the tradition in the mystery schools throughout well Greece
and Egypt, et cetera, throughout the world, even all the
way over here to Japan.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
The more you.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Consume of the material world, the more flesh, the more sex,
the more alcohol, the more difficult it is to access
the spiritual realms. So maybe that had something to do
with it as a kid. But then there's also people
that produce their bodies produce extra for whatever the reason is,
excessive amounts relatively speaking of DMT, which I think also

(15:33):
Graham Hancock pointed this out that the percentage of the
population that have a little bit extra DMT, by whatever
relative definition that might be based on who, I think,
it's like two percent roughly, which correlates to the number
of people or the percentage of people that have had
alien abduction experiences. So there's it's a correlation. It doesn't

(15:55):
mean it has something to do with it, but it's
like a two two percent thing. Maybe that has something
to do with UFO abductions or alien abductions because most
of those, as Jack Filly points out in his books
his work, correlate to the old fairy stories and the
old mythologies about the little people, and those are very
old stories that we've kind of rebranded.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
And people see the machine elves and stuff like that.
It's it's always strange to me that there's been people
that I've had ayahuasca trips that have shared the exact
same experience as other people seeing these like and that's
creepy to me. I talked about we did a whole
we did episodes about dreams of this idea that like
I mentioned that, like, maybe there's these machine elves, these

(16:40):
entities that are trying to keep the simulation going to
some extent, but you know, you have people sharing the
same experience on these trips where I've heard about people
on mushrooms that will attempt to read each other's thoughts
and be able to who knows if it's just the
mushroom trip, but this almost like shared consciousness experience.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
And if you read the DMT Molecule or the Spirit
Molecule DMT by doctor Rick Strassman, who did the DMT
studies in New Mexico. He said that most of the people,
or I guess it was his assessment, had a different
reaction based on their intention or their mindset. So people

(17:22):
that might want to read each other's minds or might
want to see something might be able to do that.
Whether that's quote real or not is another thing to
be said. And then people that had, you know, a
perspective of this was scary, obviously had that type of experience.
So really they really did create their reality, even in

(17:42):
a clinical setting. But she also says, is like half
half of the the experiment is what's where it's taking
place and whether you're safe in that environment or not.
So when you factor in that, a lot of people
do those types of things in let's call them unsafe
for unstable environments. That's going to affect the out come
as much as the mindset does.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yeah, what, I just have an opinion because, like you know,
this show started with me and my friends drinking alcohol
talking about conspiracy theories. I have a Scotch and tonic
right now, Like, what do you think about alcohol and
this idea? Like, my wife is away, It's the last
time she's gonna be away before we have the kids.
I'm having a like indulging a little bit, right, I'm
gonna have a cigar later or whatever. But what do

(18:23):
you think about like this idea that it connects with
the spirit realm. Because I've I was I was, I
was a weird kid. I played weedgi board very young,
grew up very fast, like having sex young, drinking young,
smoking weed young. Do you think there is a connection
between alcohol and the spirit realm that.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
People are able to access it?

Speaker 6 (18:41):
Because I felt when I was younger and I would
drink and I actually very stupidly would use the Wiji
board when I was under the influence by myself.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
And I have an aunt, yeah exactly.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
I have an aunt from Jamaica and she was like
she used to play it in Jamaica and be like, yeah,
never do this by yourself. And for when I was sixteen,
I was like, you know what, but I'm not scared.
And I felt that I cursed myself in some sort
of way because of it. I had like just just
bad karma and stuff like that when I was younger
to some extent, and it felt like something attached to

(19:12):
me that was using my energy. At least that's what
I perceived it. As because I did a lot of
stupid things when I was younger.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
But do you think that.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
There is some sort of connection why they called it spirits?
You think about like even if you like to get
in some of the stuff like this, like this idea
of the hell Fire Club and some of those like
where they were doing these weird rituals, drinking, having sex,
like to invoke these things.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
So there's a couple of different things here that we
could look at. First of all, if we're talking about
drinking or sex, or drugs or maybe what we could
term Allianism, Yes, as I wish was famous for these things,
this would buy some definition, probably be considered black magic,
or it would be considered wicked. But the reason that

(20:02):
people do those kinds of things, whether they're fully aware
of it or not, and Crowley certainly was, is because
the whole goal is to get outside of the physical space.
So people drink, people do drugs, people smoke, people have
sex specifically ritualistically as well. But people drink just to

(20:23):
forget about their day, to relax or whatever. People say
that it does for them, But when you ritualize it,
it has a much more stated intended effect. Right, So
when you do those kinds of things. The goal is
to get outside of the body. It's kind of a
cheap and easy way if we're talking about strategy. It's
a cheap and easy way of doing something that you

(20:45):
could otherwise achieve through meditation and through I guess you
could even call it proper by some relative definition, diet.
But if you focus each day of your life on
making sure that you make decisions that are good for
the body and the mind, you can eventually reach that state.
But some people want to reach that state without much work,

(21:07):
so they do those things ritually.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
That's what mushrooms just like, right, like, the same idea.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yes, which it's funny people have told me to because
this mushroom thing keeps coming up when we speak. The
mushroom subject is funny because people will tell me you've
got to do mushrooms, You got to do mushrooms, you
gotta do mushrooms. And then I tell them or I
ask them why, and they say, well, because you'll see
these things, you'll experience these things. I say, but I've
already experienced those things. I didn't do mushrooms to experience them. Well,
how do you experience without mushrooms? Well, there are other

(21:34):
ways to as I'm explaining, there's other ways to connect
with that world, whether it's meditation or some other type
of spiritual practice.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
That way you're so interested in Japan.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Is that part of the reason we could talk about
Shinto on tonight's show. I think Shinto's a really pure
form of all of this. We could talk about that.
But let me explain the alcohol really quick. The other
side of it. The other side of it is to
the question of spears. Yes, alcohol is referred still today
as spirits. The reason for that might not be what

(22:06):
people think, but the reason for that historically, in the
same way that Dionysus or Bacchus, the gods of wine
in Rome and Greece, the reason that their stories are
so frantic or fanatical, or let's just say, kind of crazy,
was because those gods were the embodiment of alcohol, the

(22:30):
embodiment of the transformation of the substance into another, one
substance to another substance. So when those characters were possessing you,
it wasn't an actual spirit, but it was the idea
of what Bacchus or Dionysus represents that was possessing you,

(22:51):
and what they represent is the transformation of a let's
say a grain into alcohol through a distillation process. In
other words, it's basically an ancient description. It's an ancient
description of the scientific process of distilling alcohol and creating alcohol.
They probably understood it, the people that were doin it

(23:13):
a lot more than we might think it. Maybe the
average person didn't understand it, so it became more of
a oh, they're actually spirits or actually spirits. So there's
probably two sides to that. But the idea of spirits
and alcohol, it comes from the idea that, yes, we
have transitioned one substance into another. It makes people act differently,

(23:33):
and so the spirit of that particular thing is inside
of it.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
I've seen people that are the nicest, like I'm actually
a pretty nice and fun drunk, but like I've seen
people that are the nicest people in the world drink
alcohol and they turn into like raging maniacs. Like it's
crazy to see, like the switch that turns on in
their head. And certain alcohol may do this to other people.
But I've seen people like under the influence were almost

(24:02):
like it's like they're under the influence of a demonic presence.
I've watched it happen people that I know close to
me that I've like drank too much. There's a famous
story of the fans will know I've seen shadow people
and stuff like this. And this was after an event
in Cuba where I went and my one of my
good friends, that was my cousin's cousin, but I was
a good friend. He got drunk out of his mind

(24:22):
before we left in the plank. It's like, oh, there's
a good idea, I'm gonna sleep through it or whatever.
And he got wasted and then he's like chewing his
own toenails in the middle of a Cuban airport, like
the craziest stuff you could imagine, no shirt, no shoes,
just a pajama pants. And I've seen like it didn't
even look like him, his eyes, everything it was. He
was like he was gone. And it's like something takes

(24:43):
hold of people.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
So that's why historically and today we would still refer
to that as a kind of a form of possessed possession.
Someone is possessed by their alcoholism. In the Old World,
people might say they were possessed by Dionysus or possessed
by Bachus, possessed by the spirit of this of this thing.
So in alcohol and in a story like that, and

(25:06):
in other stories that are similar, it's very similar to
when someone is thick. Historically we go back into the
ancient world. When someone was sick, they acted differently. Maybe
they were sweating more, they had a fever, maybe they
were I mean, they could be vomiting, whatever the case

(25:27):
might be, whatever kind of sickness they have, the body's
trying to get rid of some poison.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Or they've had something, they've eaten.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Something that's bad, or whatever the case is, the individual
would be said to have a spirit that possesses them
in the same way that if someone got drunk and
they started acting differently.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
And they we do exorcisms right in in some places,
they would do some sort of ritual to like get
the sickness out of them, right, because they believe they
are precisely right.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yes, And although Roman Catholics and Westerners like to think
that they have and the Catholic Church specifically thinks that
they created the exorcism, well maybe they've created the prescribed
order of the traditional Roman Latin exorcist, right, But the
idea of an exorcism is universal. In fact, over here

(26:15):
in Japan they had exorcisms too. When someone was possessed,
they would take a sword and they would cut the
air above the head of the individual to sever the
connection between the demonic spirit. He might not be a Latin, right,
but it's an exorcism. But the point being that you're
possessed by something. It could be alcohol, it could be

(26:37):
a disease that's making you act differently. So in the
old world, for example, and we do the same thing today,
you would have your I guess we do the same
kinds of exorcisms today too, But you would have your
little vial of holy water, you'd have your cross, you'd
have your Latin text that you would read, etc. Of
a Bible. But we do the same thing today. You

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have to know the name of the demon and then
they would cast it out. We do the same thing
with sickness today.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
We have a little vile we called a vaccine. We
have a syringe that looks like a cross, and we
have our medical lab coats in instead of a robe
for a ritual, and we know the name of the disease,
whatever it is, we cast it out with the vaccine.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
The idea that that's what they're doing, though, because a
lot of people have suffered greatly.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I think it's this well, no, I think what it
is is it's looking at it from an.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Objective point of view.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
When we look at the historical idea of an exorcism
and what we see in movies, it's obviously an exaggeration.
And then what we do today we consider to be
the height of science. But in one hundred or two
hundred years, we'll look back and think that that practice
is just as barbaric as maybe what our ancestors were doing.
And I think we misunderstand the context historically, presently and

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probably in the future as well. Exorcisms are also if
you look at the word exercise to exercise a demon,
it comes from the same root as to exercise, as
in to go or a jog or to lift weights,
because you're trying to exercise your demons and keep yourself healthy.
And that's what exorcisms originally were for. They were to
exercise the disease out of the person to keep them healthy.

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That's why exercise and exercise or exorcist and exorcist exercise has.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
The same work has the same root meaning to the word.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Actually that one the hip hop so and I was like,
it's interesting because you exercising the demon, right, And I
was like, yes, some whine about running out of treadmill
or someone. They're exercising their demons. And I was like, interesting,
it has.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
The same it has the same root, meaning yeah, it
has And then if you go back to alcohol, you
have gin. Gin's a very popular old alcohol. And what
is the gin. Well, these are the smokeless demons or
the monsters or creatures or demon demonic angel like things
in the air big world and the Muslim mythology. They're
a lower ranking intelligence in the hierarchy of demons and angels.

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And that's and then if of course you do there's
an Arabic word for alcohol. In fact, it's part of
where the word that we know in English comes from.
It's both French and Latin, but also Arabic. And the
Arabic word is al cool. It means the coal, which
has something to do with I think it's like a
black powder substance.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
I mean a soul eating demon or something alcohol.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
That's what they claim. That's what they claim.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
And this is actually a personal problem that I have,
and it goes back to something. When we were talking
about what to do on the show tonight, I was
all the things you were bringing up.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
I'm thinking, I'm all interested in that.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
But there's a lot of this stuff that people will
just post online and it becomes a trending thing.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
And I saw that and I didn't. I looked into it.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
I didn't see anything of what they were claiming, and
I was like, this is weird.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
No.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
The word alcohol is derived from French. It's derived from
medieval Latin, and it's derived from It is derived from
the Arabic al cool a l k u h l
or the coal kohl. It refers to powders and substances,
particularly those that are obtained through sublimation, things that are distilled,

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and that's like the etymological origin of the word. But
it does not mean what people say that it means.
So when you see those kinds of things, they're half
right and they're half wrong. Whether that's intentional or it's
just ignorance or whatever.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
The case is.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
That's kind of the I guess as a separate subject.
But that's kind of a personal problem that I have
with a lot of this stuff, is that, yeah, that's true.
There's Gin, and there's al Goal and there's spirits.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
But where does all of this come from?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
And when we hear about this stuff and the modern
I guess you could say spiritual or a cult kind
of literature, how much of it's actually accurate.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
We've got to kind of go back to the source.
It's really important.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
Yeah, and just because it kind of what might just
thought about it, Like what do you think about you know,
Alista Crowley and like the hell Fire Club, Like what
do you think they were trying to achieve? Like they're
two separate things, but like it's in the same realm
of doing like I would say, kind of perverted sick

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ritualistic magic to invoke something out of like we talked
about the Bleskin House recently, and like when he was
doing all these rituals and didn't close the portal and
and maybe that's where the Luckness Monster came from and
stuff like that. I'd just like to kind of know
your thoughts about, like because we haven't covered the Hellfire

(31:34):
clubs that I've always wanted to do, but I'm aware
of kind of the practice and things that went on there,
and now like to your thoughts on Crowley.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Also, Yeah, there were a couple different hell fire clubs.
There was one in London, actually favorite a couple in London.
There was one in Ireland, and these were the official
historical hell fire clubs. They basically were let's call them
elite parties. They were eyes wide shut type parties, and

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they were for elites or for wealthy people to go
and to do things that otherwise were considered a little
bit immoral, right, So that could include excessive drinking, that
could include drug use, that can include orgies and things
like this. It's basical to think about it in the
simplest terms, it's basically eyes wide shut. They might they
might not be doing satanic rituals or something to that effect,

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but it's basically eyes wide shut. It's it's a bit,
it's a ditty party. It's essense to what it is.
It was the older version of a ditty party.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Basically.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I don't know if they had pink cocaine and baby oil,
but it was something to that effect. If we're looking
at like the OTO, the OTO I think only has
a relationship to something like that because the OTO was
with Crowley being who he was, was promoting the same
types of things. I don't think from what I understand

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that the hell Fire Club was intending to do the
same things that Crowley and his Alleyites were attempting to do.
Crowley had attempted on more than one occasion, and of
course he does have a connection to that house that
you mentioned. Had attempted to open portals or gateways, had
attempted to contact the other side. Let's call it, had

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summoned lamb lamb looks lam lamb looks like a.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah from the other side.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
But then again, it's like going back to the mushrooms
and going back to the Iowaska. Well, that's what I'm saying,
going back to the mushrooms and the DMT and iawuask
and things like that. That is the type of thing
that you see when you're on these when you're on
certain substances and or if that's your intention, you can
work yourself up into a frenzy.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
So that is what you see.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
It doesn't mean he actually opened the portal and people
like Crowley. Crowley was working with British intelligence. He was
an intelligence asset. In fact, a lot of people who
we Crowley might be a different example of this, but
a lot of people we don't think much about like
for example, Houdini. Whodini was an asset of the intelligence community.
He worked with the US government, and I think he

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worked with the British intelligence agencies as well, because he
was You heard that before.

Speaker 6 (34:10):
Well, no, I actually haven't heard that. It was just
you'll probably find this amusing. But when we when me
and my friends used to use the Wigi board when
we were like twelve, because I got obsessed with it.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Probably wasn't a good thing.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
But Harold Udani, we supposed to be I don't believe
it was him, but we supposedly contacted Harold Tudeni. He
would tell us jokes and stuff like stuff that I'll
never forget because it was just so strange and bizarre,
Like there was we were all emo and into metal
and stuff like that. And one of the jokes was like,
how did the punk cross the road? He was stapled

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or pinned to the chicken something like that along those lines,
And it was something that me and my friends would
never have thought of. But for some reason, the Ouigi
board like gave that these like very specific things to us.
And there's even my friends we were like, we're dumb
twelve year olds and no way we could have spelled
out the things that that it was doing at that
fast maybe are subconscious.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
I will always put that out there.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
But we called Harold jiniy because it was a famous
person that we knew of, and it moved is.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
I could feel it.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
It was really weird, and it whoever that was told
us jokes. But I could figure that Harold Dejani had
some connections. I feel like a lot of these people
and having connections to like certain.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
Three letter agencies and stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Like that, right, even certain religions. Houdini was a Jewish
intelligence asset in the same way Epstein was. You know,
actually Ron Jeremy the porn star his mother was intelligence
and it's very likely really like likewise, and he's also
a taking so creepy man. He's also Jewish, for the record,
it's very weird to see. And so is Jack the Ripper,

(35:49):
and so is Christopher Columbus. He's Ashkenazi jew. It's really
weird when you learn about these different characters throughout history,
all their intelligence or specifically religious connections that they have
or tribal religious connections they have.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
I want you to tell you more about that, because
like people are so fascinated about that stuff. And Ron
Jerre of course Ron Jeremy's Jewish. He kind of looks
like a Jewish goblin, a fat Jewish goblin. But like
that guy is creepy.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
As I didn't say, you said it.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
Yeah, it's so he looks like especially now and like
as he ate. Oh man, they just look and it's
funny because if you put him in probably Harvey Weinstein
together the.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Brothers or some shit, you know what I mean, they
look very similar.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Rabbi Schmooley could put into that category as well.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
People are fascinated by this stuff of like why is
all connected back to Jewish people, their religion, Zionism, all
that stuff, because I've looked at that and it's it's
weird because once you start to notice, that's the noticing,
you know, it's like, it's it's really weird.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
I don't think that it's I mean, you might have
just meant that a figure of speech way, but I
don't think it's all connected to that. But there is
a very powerful Jewish mafia, without doubt. And part of
that is I explained this on a recent show that
I did as a guest on another radio show, and
I've explained it on my show over and over again.

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The Jewish community historically, which is also where we get
the term zealot from, they were a very tight knit
community and they didn't allow others into their community, and
they have a tribal god, and their God protects them
and them only, and anybody that attempted to infiltrate their

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community or anybody, not that anybody necessarily was trying to,
but anybody who would have attempted to do that would
have faced a death penalty.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
In fact, if you read.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
The High Laws.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
More so, well, not necessarily, just more so because it
was a closed off community that like any other. The
Jewish community wasn't unique. I mean, there's lots of communities
that are very closed off, and they're basically cults that
if you get too close to them, you might suffer
the consequences. And those consequences are actually written down not
in the Noah Hyde Laws, but in Sanhedrin fifty nine

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a of the William Davidson Talmute. Rabbi Johannan says that
this is a quote, this isn't my opinion or a paraphrase.
A gentile who engages in Torah study which is the
first couple of books of the Bible, is liable to
receive the death penalty because, as it is stated in
Deuteronomy thirty three four, this book or the series of

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books was given as an inheritance for us, the Jews,
and not for them. So people that study the Torah
are actually condemned to death by the Jewish highest or
reading words, for reading it, for studying it. Maybe not
possessing it, but you could assume that if reading it
or studying it you would be condemned to death. You're

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probably possessing it as well. And it's the same Jewish
High Council that was responsible not exclusively but in large
part for the death of Jesus in the story which
is this is an avalanche?

Speaker 5 (39:04):
What do you think about it?

Speaker 6 (39:05):
Everything about because I've always questioned, uh, the existence of Jesus,
and it wasn't just stories that were told, and because
there's like connections to you know, there's mythra in Krishna
and uh even some of the ancient Egyptian gods like
Horus that like share similar stories. So I was just
curious of what you thought about that. And Uh, I

(39:28):
would definitely get love to get more of your thoughts
of like, why do you think there's such this centralized
power of specifically Jewish people, because it's it's clear anyone
that looks around can see it.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
There are centralized powers of other groups as well. But okay,
so there's a lot to unpack here. We've triggered, triggered
an avalanche.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
So let's let's look at the Jewish community historically as
a tight knit cult like tribal society. That's not unique,
and those terms are not meant to demean Jews. It's
just that's a factual thing, in the same way that
the whole nation of Japan was for the most part
a closed off, tight knit cult like society where anybody

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from the outside or the most part was seen as
an outsider, just like in China or any other empire
or any.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Other part of all countries.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Maybe except for but even historically and Germanic tribes were
very tight knit as well, not anymore, but yes, the
Jewish community was very much that in the same way
others were as well.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
So it's not unique to Jews.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
The Jewish community or the Jewish cult or the Jewish
religion or whatever you choose to call it because there's
so many denominations of it. Just like Christianity, they offered
atonement for sins only to their own people. When the
Christians started to develop out of Judaism, the Christians believe
that you could obtain atonement through the blood of Jesus,

(40:57):
so you no longer had to kill animals, you no
longer had to even sacrifice children, which the Jews were
accused of over and over again historically, and did in
fact worship whether it's the golden calf, or it's the
Bullmulloch or rim fam which is where the star comes from.
It says this in the Book of Acts, and also

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there's a relationship that has to the Book of Revelation
where they are considered the Synagogue of Satan. They've turned
their back on God. So the Christians come along and say, look,
we don't have to burn animals, and we don't have
to sacrifice animals and children and pour their blood out.
Now Jesus his blood was the ultimate atonement, and if
you would like to be a Christian, we would love.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
To have you.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
You're not going to be forced and we're not going
to prevent you from coming into our group. We want
everybody to join by choice. The problem with that was historically,
at the foundation of the church, or even before there
was a church, whatever that initially was, when you have
the original you know, missionaries or the original followers of Christ,

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they very quickly found out that by allowing anybody into
the group, particularly people to come in and to have
their sins a result, well, that created the problem because
it attracted all of the really bad people in society.
It attracted the criminals, it attracted the murderers, the thieves,
and so the church very quickly found itself and then

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we're not talking about an institution per se. We're talking
about just a concept found itself very corrupted by evil
people who could just obtain the forgiveness of their sins
through a quick little ritual and then go and continue
to steal and to rape and to murder.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
But do you think what does it do with the
just to butt in? Sorry, but like the idea of
like the Jewish rituals of what's the one they like
project their sins into a chicken and they kill it
because the yeah, because they do these rituals that it's like, oh,
my sins are all gone. I can do whatever I want,

(43:07):
I can, you know, go to Epstein's Island or Massads
Island and.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Do whatever the hell I want.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
And then if I kill this chicken and put all
my sins into it. Weren't they doing similar stuff even
by like the human sacrifices, like oh, I'll just if
I just do this, I'll appease the god that is
only watching it for our people or whatever.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yeah, well it was a much more extreme. Any kind
of tribal version of this is going to be very extreme.
So in the Jewish sect you have an extreme version
of this, and they would this is where the demon
Azazol comes from. Azazl is the goat, so the scapegoat.
They would put the sins into this goat and then
drive the goat into the woods, or drive it over
a cliff, or just kill it, and that would be

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the way that all their sins would be forgiven. Of course,
the Christians came along and said, you don't have to
kill those animals anymore. Jesus died for you. And then
that created a schism, and you.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
Know where that came from.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
The escape goat.

Speaker 6 (43:59):
No, this idea of like killing animals to appease like
whatever the tone for your sins.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Well, there's a lot of different ways that you could
look at that.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
So there's an there's and we're going to try to
tie all of this together, all these questions and all
these ideas before the.

Speaker 6 (44:15):
Just It fascinates me because these are thoughts I've had
for like my whole life about why these things are
going on and what's happening.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
I don't know how true this is what I'm about
to say. I know that there's definitely a mythological character
in China called Shangdi, and Shangdi are otherwise known as
the Jade Emperor, has a very similar story to Yave
and Shangdi in China, We're talking about vastly different parts

(44:44):
of the world.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
Now I've heard about answer you have. Yeah, I think
it's a.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Pretty unknown and unknown story. But the story of Shangdy
is it's similar in some respects to Yahve, and Shangdy
wants animals to be sacrificed to him, just like Jave,
and these sacrifices of animals, whether they're burnt offerings or
blood offerings, are meant to appease the god and are

(45:13):
also meant to wash away your sins. Now that you're
asking why, Well, if you read the Bible, and it's
not just the Bible, there are other texts.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Well, what if you read the Bible.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
The Bible, especially in Leviticus, the Bible talks about how
the blood is the life force of the animal. So
if you are bathing in the blood of an animal
or bathing in the life force of another animal, Animals,
for all intentsive purposes, are considered pure. They don't have
conscious thought, and they don't commit sins like humans do.

(45:45):
So if you're bathing in the blood of an animal
that has committed a sin, then you're obtaining the purity
of that although animals, some animals are unclean, of course,
but the life force. And yes, it is like Elizabeth
Bathrie in a sense where she bathes in the lot
of the young women to reverse the aging process. So
if you have Christians coming along and saying you don't

(46:07):
have to do that anymore. Jesus did that, that obviously
created a problem. But then the Christians to wrap this
story up and put a bow on it. The Christians
started to do what the Jews did, except instead of
the Jews having said you can't be part of our group,
and everybody else is subject to us. You know, we
consider you animals, we consider you slaves, we consider you

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to be inferior to us.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
Goam. The Christians said.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
That, they say, basically, basically, the Christians did something very similar,
except the Christians said, Okay, look, if you don't become
a Christian, now you're going to die. So instead of
you can't become a Jew, we don't want you, you're goiam.
The Christians originally said you can become a Christian. They
welcomed a bunch of really bad people, and maybe that

(46:56):
helps some bad people in the long run. But then
the Christian sort of to say, well, if you don't
join us, then we're going to have to kill you.
I mean, this is a very superficial overview of history, sure,
but there's an important point here because the Christians, if
you read Edward Gibbon, the main authority on Roman history,

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he describes that the Christians in Rome in those early
days were the ones demanding to be burned or to
be killed in some manner for their belief, and the
Roman governors or magistrates of the provinces were simply trying
to keep the peace, keep the religious peaceful order, which

(47:41):
was Rome or at least the idea of Rome was
that all religions lived in peace. So, for example, give
you an example, and this is going to answer. I
think I'll ultimately answer these questions that we're asking. We're
talking about Augustus, the Golden Age emperor, who's essentially saved Rome.
He told the Jews, he said, look, we're going to
sacrifice something to your god. All we're asking you to

(48:05):
do is sacrifice something to our God. You don't have
to believe it, you don't have to think that it's real.
It's just a visible gesture to the people to show
that we're all trying to live in religious harmony. So
Augustus reportedly sacrifices something to the Jewish God, and the

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Jews spit in his face and said, f you, that's
probably not a good idea to do that to the emperor.
So that was one of the reasons that the Romans
had a problem with the Jews, mixed with the fact that,
as I said, the word zeal it comes from early
Judaism combating the Romans and trying to overthrow Roman rule.

(48:46):
And I understand the Romans occupied this territory and the
Roman Empire was vast what I'm getting at here is
that the Roman Empire was largely accepting of religions. There's
a reason that the Jews were persecuted because they created
their own person, whether it's justified or not. And there
was a reason the Christians were persecuted, whether they created
it or not, whether it's justified or not. The Jews

(49:09):
and the Christians both spit in the face of the
generally accepted Roman authority, which was peace of religions. We
want there to be an acceptance of all religions. And
at the core of this Today you might say, as
a Christian, well, we were persecuted and that's wrong, and
the Romans were evil, etc. But you have to understand

(49:30):
the context of the times. We're talking about a vast
portion of the world falling under this one authority, so
big it was broken into two part two empires to
the Western and Eastern Empire. But this vast empire, whether
people actually believe these things or not, with all of
these different religions were largely based on the same ideas.

(49:50):
We call them pagan, that's not the right term, but
these quote pagan religions, These were the religions of your ancestors.
These were your ancestors, This was your community. This was
your father, your mother, your grandma, your grandpa who had died.
These were the people that came before you, that built
the society you lived in.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
And to the Romans who believed those.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Things, and to the various provinces that the Roman Empire controlled.
To say that all of that is irrelevant, and to
say that all of that is stupid and satanic and
demonic and evil and wicked, was spitting in the face
of generation of your generation, of a generation of people
that had built the world that they lived in. It

(50:34):
was spitting in the face of somebody and saying, your
ancestors don't matter, they're evil. You have to worship what
we say.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
That's what's happening in the world now.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
Though it seems like in Canada and stuff like that,
all the things that my family's been in Canada is
sixteen oh four, they're telling, ah, you're just evil, white
colonizers and all the shit that they kind of spirit
I feel like it's some other same thing of them
disparaging us as a people for the things that we
accomplished from pretty much nothing right.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
And then they do this time and time again, This is.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
This is a relatively common historical thing, right, It's not
just something that applies to Christians or Jews or anything else.
But my point is, back to your question, that's one
of the reasons why Jews and Christians were persecuted. And
then we have to understand, and I learned this from
a rabbi, that the Jewish community was like most Christians

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and Muslims. They were controlled by a kind of religious code,
which is what the synhedron is.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Right.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
The Christians have their religious code and Muslims have their
religious code, and there's different sects of that, but the
Muslims were forbidden from it and still are forbidden. If
you read the Quran engaging in usury. The Christians are
forbidden from engaging in usury. Jews are not. Well, they do,
but they're forbidden. Their religion forbids them. Christians might not

(51:53):
know that, but usury is forbidden now for Jews. It's
not so Jews can loan money to Gentiles at interest,
they cannot do that to other Jews. And then, of
course Muslims and Christians, especially Christians, were really maybe more
so culturally than than legally, were not forbidden but kind
of prevented from going into the entertainment industry because it

(52:16):
was seen as just kind of a sleazy profession, right.

Speaker 6 (52:19):
Had Jews owning porn Hub and ordering Hollywood and every
other thing, like you know, all the dating apps.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
And that's right, So that's why Jews became these kinds
of people.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
They became bankers.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
Well, they seem like they're sneaking. And is it not evil?
Is it not?

Speaker 6 (52:37):
Isn't on the face value of what they're doing to
society to like the control mechanisms that they do have
to uh manipulate society at such a large scale?

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Is that not evil in their eyes?

Speaker 6 (52:51):
Is not?

Speaker 5 (52:52):
But is it not like uh getting.

Speaker 6 (52:54):
People to consume and be consumers while they own everything
and control everything and like the Roth dynasty and all
the other connections to them as a people. Uh, And
everyone's starting to notice now, and you know, so I'm
just like and then we're the And I asked that question,
and I asked, like, where are the Muslims fit and
all this stuff? Because they are not really very good

(53:17):
at assimilating and doing anything outside of the realm of
the brainwashing that they've been conditioned.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
Because I think I.

Speaker 6 (53:23):
Went as far as I've read, Mohammad just picked a
law out of an ancient scripture and then just like,
oh this is my God now uh and manipulated a
lot of people to believe in pretty much nothing but
blatant lies and hypocrisy and and uh. And I see
this now in the UK and places where I know people,
and I've talked to people, and one of my best

(53:44):
friends lives in Ireland. I do the show with like
you see, these people come in and they don't adapt.
Their culture is so different. They live in like a
barbaric Stone Age in my opinion of what they do
to people and women and and where do they all
fit in this? Because they believe in all like essentially
killing people and the infidels and all the stuff to

(54:05):
get what they want when their religion was just manufactured
and constructed most like other religions.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Well, the goal of religion is to have an inner
reflection of the self and.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
To but I don't see that Muslims. I've chalked them
and it doesn't seem that way.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Well, okay, so we have to understand that the base
of these things is obviously different than how people have
been raised to interpret them. So for example, if you
read the Book of Romans, this is one of my
favorite verses in the Bible. Context matters. Of course, you
can go dig up all the contexts to it, but
this is what the Book of Romans says Romans two
twenty eight through twenty nine. And this will answer your

(54:45):
question about Islam as well. It says, a person is
not a Jew who is one outwardly or who is
only one outwardly. Nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No,
a person is a Jew who is one inwardly, and
circumcision is circums decision of the heart by the spirit,
not by the written code. Such a person's praise is

(55:05):
not from other people but from God. In other words,
to be a Jew has nothing to do with who
you're born to. It has nothing to do with a
receding hairline and a yamica on your head and some
weird curls and this proclivity to control the porn industry.
That's not what a Jew is. A Jew is someone
who is a Jew inwardly. It's a spiritual practice. In

(55:28):
the same way that you don't have to be part
of a lodge to be a Mason, you can be
a free Mason and not be part of a lodge.
You can be a Jew and not be Jewish. I mean, frankly,
I'm Jewish. You might even be Jewish by these definitions. Circumcision, likewise,
is not a physical thing to be done, in the

(55:50):
same way that a jihad, a religious holy war, is
not like an actual crusade against physical human beings like
who exist in this realm that we have to kill
because they're different than us. The jihad is the holy
or spiritual war that takes place inside of us. It's
the angel and the demon on the shoulders. It's the

(56:10):
arguments and we have in our own head between what
is right and what is wrong. And the decapitation of
that infidel is not cutting off the head of someone
who disagrees with us. It means you're cutting off the
head of the carnal self. In the same way that
as Jews we circumcise as part of our covenant with God.
The circumcision is a spiritual circumcision. It happens internally. It's

(56:34):
a circumcision like the decapitation of the infidel, a circumcision
of the carnal self, a circumcision of the animal self.
It is the true animal sacrifice, which means that you
don't actually have to kill animals. You don't actually have
to chop a little baby's penis into pieces and then
suck the blood out of it like rabbis do. You

(56:54):
don't have to decapitate somebody and watch their head er
all down the hill.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
What all of these things mean.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Spiritual versus the carnal physical self, the animal versus the
spirit itself. The animal is a representation of our impulses.
If you can control our you know, control your impulses,
like Solomon can control the demons, that's all that it is.
They're not real demons. These are We fight our own demons.
We exercise our demons, like we talked about earlier. Solomon

(57:25):
has control of these demons, and then he can build
the temple. The temple is the self. The Bible says
this over and over again. And we go inwardly to
the temple. That's where we go pray. That's meditation.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
Do you think.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
I think?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
I think Solomon was a metaphor. Was is a metaphoric
story for for the most part, And I think that's
what the demons are. It's metaphors.

Speaker 6 (57:46):
You think that all this stuff is just an outward
these carnal sins, so to speak, because like, uh, it's
it's to me. I do think it's really sad to
see what's going on in the UK and stuff like that,
and how Muslims are so consumed by their religion that
they don't even benefit to society. And and that's my

(58:09):
point of view in any way that I've seen, unless
they there's different versions of all religions and Muslims and
Christians and Jews and all that stuff, right, but from
what I've seen from people that I've talked to in
the UK, from the videos I've seen, they're just there
to like impose their dominance of their religion onto people.

(58:29):
And I didn't see this conversation going this way at
all actually, which I'm definitely have to get you back
on the show for another episode because I want to
get more in the magic stuff at some point. But like,
this is just interesting because of this stuff that I've
seen going on physically that is happening where people are
acting like barbarians and animals and acting literally acting like animals,

(58:49):
like like raping kids and women and young girls. The
Muslim like they want to call them grooming gangs with
the rape gangs, all that type of stuff, like them
saying it's it's okay to marry a nine year old,
like in their religion that's okay because they've said, oh,
well God told me it's fine, right, So like, what
do you where's your standpoint all that stuff, because I

(59:10):
think it's kind of sick and animalistic when they act
like savages and animals and then they wonder why people
view them that way. And I'm not saying it's all
Muslims and I'm not saying all Jewish people are christ
I understand.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Yeah, no, I understand.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Well, again, these are complex issues, so we have to
go and build a base foundation before we can really
answer those questions. I think a lot of the problem
I'm going to answer that question, but I think a
lot of the problems when these discussions are had is
that people one go on social media and they see
little clips of things that are taken out of context,
both in terms of time and in terms of what's

(59:44):
actually being done or what's actually being said. And I
think people because they have, especially in the West, we
have a very Christian perspective, Christian conservative perspective, not that
there's something wrong with that. But you have a very
Christian conservative perspective, and most Christians don't even and have
much of I don't think, an understanding of their own religion.
They certainly don't have an understanding of the Islamic religion

(01:00:05):
or the Muslim world. So I think a lot of
it is based on ignorance. Now, when I say ignorance,
I just mean we just don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
I will say I did read the Koran when I
was sixteen.

Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
It did bore me, but I knew there's hip hop
ar so like that at the time that were Muslim,
even though they're white. And I read it and it
was as boring, and I don't remember much about it.
I rented it from a library, and I still don't
think that it's a great religion in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Well, I'm glad that you actually read it, because most
people don't read it. In fact, I'm sure there's just
as many Muslims that never read the Koran as there
are Christians that never read Let's try to unpack some
of these things that we're talking about here. I'm glad
you brought this up. We can actually tie this into
magic if you'd like. If we have enough time here,
so let's do this. So if to answer your question,

(01:00:57):
when I described the Book of Romans as talking about
a Jew, is a person who is a Jew, not
outwardly but internally. And circumcision is not something you perform physically,
it's something you perform spiritually. And I said, the same
thing can be applied to the Jihad, and the same
thing can be applied to the decapitation of the Infidel,

(01:01:18):
and the same thing can even be applied in terms
of there being an underlying symbolic meaning to the idea
that the Jews are the chosen people. If Jews are
people that are Jews inwardly and spiritually and not Jews outwardly,
that means all people, you, myself, our audience, we're all
God's chosen people. We're all creating the image. Right, So

(01:01:39):
it's not the Jews don't have control of that. Ultimately,
they're not the chosen people that God picked to rule
the earth. That's psychotic. And people that interpret it that way. Yes,
people that interpret it that way, including Christians, are psychotic.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
That's I think that's the definition of DuRane.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
The Christian Zionists have lost their mind in a lot
of regards.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
So those kinds of ideas are anathetical to what the
true meaning of what they're based on. All of us
are God's chosen people. Likewise, the Holy Land, the Holy Land,
is not some physical geographical location. The Holy Land is
inside of you internally. That's the Holy Land. Your body

(01:02:26):
is the temple. Your body is the Holy land. The
circumcision is of the heart of the soul, right, the
decapitation of the carnal self. The jihad is the holy
war of good versus evil. Now, in understanding that, obviously
people hear this and they say, well, that's not Islam,
that's not Christianity, that's not Judaism. These people do whatever

(01:02:48):
your perception is, whatever your religion is, these people do
bad things. That Jews do this, the Muslims do this.
You're right, they do. But that's not the point. The
point is at the foundation, at the core, that's what
these things are supposed to be. That's how we're supposed
to interpret them. That's the original meaning. Are they taken

(01:03:10):
out of context and distorted? Absolutely, And then you've got
to look at how that's been done. Well, you have
plenty of Jews who have been corrupted by the I
call them rabid rabbis, by the rabid rabbis who do
believe in the self importance and being chosen, and that
everybody else is their servant and slave. In the same
way that when the Western Roman Empire was about to

(01:03:33):
fall and adopts Christianity, Christianity which we now see with
the selection of yet another new pope, that's the Roman
Empire in existence today and the Church was in Catholicism
means universal religion, so that is an extension of an imperial,
man made authority that has usurped the authority of God.

(01:03:56):
I think that, based on Biblical teachings, the pope himself
is the Antichrist in spirit. It is the elevation of
a man to the position of or above the position
of God.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
That's what I was.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
Gonna say of this idea of like, well, I'm the
spokesperson for God. Even in the Sabotanan Franksis cult where
they like were like, well, this guy speaks, he's he's
the he's the voice for God. He echoes what God speaks.
That could just be some narcissistic Kanye West guy that's like, oh,
like I'm talking to God and it's like are you though?

(01:04:30):
And that's what's so weird to me about like these
like I'm God's chosen people, Are you though? And how
why are you chosen? And you could? And then people
that believe it and then they get involved. It's just
like a cult and it's just like Waco and you know,
you have like David Koresh, It's like where he's a
God's chosen person to speak to these people and I'm

(01:04:50):
the voice of God, right, And it's crazy that like,
and then people buy into that stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Same a Ron Hubbard.

Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
Any if you think of any cult Charles Manson, you know,
they give them acid and they're like, all right, I'm
I'm the I control your perception of reality, right.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
So it's interesting. Yeah, Like Crowley.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Prowllites are like that today, Crowleyites, the people that are
into sex magic and that are with having I mean
I would say that most of them have no context
for what any of that stuff is, or where it
comes from or what it does. This applies to everything,
and so I mentioned Jews, I mentioned Christians. The same
thing applies to Islam. I mean, at the core, trying
to understand what the Koran says or what the Muslims

(01:05:34):
believe is like trying to understand what the Christians believe, which,
first of all, which denomination are you talking about? Second
of all, what like what reference in the Koran or
what reference in some religious code of the Muslims are
we referring to when we say things like, well, like
you said, well they believe in marrying a nine year
old girl. It's funny because the context of that is

(01:05:55):
really important. Did Muhammad marry a nine year old girl? Probably?

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
I probably did? Probably that shoe is six and then
they they costru it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Cos and then nine later. Now, what's the context of that?
Because in the Talmude, in the Talmute it says the
same thing, though in fact, in the.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
Tal Mut's even worse. It's a three year old.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Right, But what's the context of that? To defend the
Jews and to defend the Muslims, just for a just
for a moment, I think that there's there's there's a
necessity here, and at least looking at the other side
of this, I don't I'm not saying I'm defending what
we consider pedophilia. But when you look at the old grimoires,
what did the grim Wars say about certain types of sacrifices.
They say you have to sacrifice a kid a virgin.

(01:06:41):
We interpret that as a child. But if you go
to a dictionary, a kid means a goat, So you're
not killing a child.

Speaker 6 (01:06:50):
Now again, do you think their interpretations are just wrong,
like they're like, we got to kill this kid.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
In in large parts, I don't, okay, this is this
is a very tricking thing. It's a balancing act. I'm
not saying that's what the Talmud actually says. I'm not
saying that's what.

Speaker 6 (01:07:07):
The because they say you can rape a girl up
till age of three because the hymen's not broken and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Shit, yeah, or it grows back, or you can I
think they say it's like putting your finger into her eye. Yeah,
something from that effect. But the Talmud also says that
you can have sex with a nine year old. So
my problem with this is it it's it's a balancing
act here. People might get upset with you and say, well,
you just have this gut who's defending Islam and defending

(01:07:32):
Judaism and defending pedophilia.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
Not defending pedophilia.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
What I'm saying is, if you read the Grim Wars
the Grimwors talk about sacrificing a kid. That's not a child,
that's not a little toddler, it's a goat. So is
it possible that when we look at these things in
these texts, that maybe, even to the defense of the rabbis,
maybe we're misinterpreting what they're saying. Maybe it's kind of

(01:07:56):
so perverse when it was written to keep people, which
is why the grim Wars were so perverse.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Most grimoars are.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Like you got to get the eye of this and
the blood of that, and the toenails of this, and
you got to get the kid and cut the throat
of the kid. I mean, oh my god, they're sacrificing children. No,
they were written like that because they're written in code.
It's meant to mean something else, like the sacrificing of the.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
But then do you think that they're actually doing it though, Like, oh,
well they miss as.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
A kid and they're like, you know, you got I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Know, No, not necessarily.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
I think people take these things and misunderstand I misunderstanding.
I think the point is we again we have to
create like a foundation, and the foundation I think for
understanding this is that there are references to things like
children being killed that are not actually children being killed.
We're talking about animals.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
What about all those times that they've said that there
is like actual, like written documentation that a child went
missing and then it was murdered, like throughout all these
different centuries in Spain and all these different places that
supposed we're all all were like pointed back at the
Jewish people.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Well, one, I'm sure that plenty of kids have been
utilized for those kinds of practices. Children used to be
buried in the foundation of buildings or walls to protect them.
Then in some societies this is reportedly the case. I
can't confirm that it could It could just be that

(01:09:24):
maybe bones were found in the archaeological excavations of those
places because people would die like the Great Wall of
China and kind of be buried in the structure itself.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
But if you if you look at.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
The history of things like that, I don't have any
doubt that people sacrifice children, no doubt at all. In fact,
I'm pretty sure it still happens today.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
However, I'm convinced.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
However, we have to understand that, like when you have
Christians writing histories of local communities in South America, like
with the Conquistadors, do you think that they have an
unbiased of approach to talking about what they're seeing. Of
course not, because there's no Jesus there. They're heathens, they're barbarians,

(01:10:08):
and they have to kill them and replace them. So
there's clearly a motivation or Christian writers to exaggerate and
to fabricate stories. And like we see with the Israeli
state today and historically going back to when they were founded,
they love fabricating stories about children. In fact, they go

(01:10:30):
in fact, you go back to the First World War,
the Germans were accused of marching around and this isn't
just Jews that accused people of this. It's called atrocity propaganda.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
The Jews.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Were you making up stories about lamp shades that were
made of human skin and soap that were made of
German or Jewish fat? Wasn't real And neither were the
stories of Germans World War one time period. Neither were
the stories of Germans marching in the battle with babies
impaled on the end of their bayonets.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
Did they actually say that they were doing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
That, Yes, there's political cartoons of that. It's not true. No,
So I'm just saying that there's a I don't have
any doubt that people haven't sacrificed children physical sacrifices, But
what does that mean in relation to the kid and
the goat? And what does that mean in relation to
the context of the people writing it who want to
make their enemies look like the most barbaris.

Speaker 6 (01:11:24):
Yeah, and I've heard that, and you see that both
sides too, like obviously the propaganda to do with Germany
and the National Socialists and stuff like that that's taken place.
It is interesting your phrase it that way, because on
all ends, every spectrum. That's why I'm not religious, because
I think that it's all been more or less manufactured
by something beyond our idea of what this reality is.

(01:11:47):
That's my perspective. I think that something has been some
outside for us is manipulating us. That it has always
been my view. I feel like I've seen it, I
felt it. But like how if it's someone is your
enemy and you want them dead, that you will do
whatever it takes to make sure that happens on all
sides of the spectrum, you know, And you see this

(01:12:08):
with Palestine and them like Israel funded hamas. There's one
hundred percent pay per trail in facts that they they
went they created hamas to combat against yes of era
fat and like it did these things on purpose, and
they get into power and then they're like, oh, they're
killing us, they're kidnapping people, and you could just manufacture
whatever thing that you want, especially if you have power

(01:12:29):
and money, you can just manufacture anything and then convince
a population that that's what's happening, when it could be
literally nothing but just blatant lies and then it just
the Lampshet thing is a great example of that of like, oh.

Speaker 5 (01:12:43):
Yeah, we're they're doing these horrible experiments.

Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
They're cutting off the twins Dick and see if the
other one felt it, like stuff like that with Mangelow,
which I the more I've looked in this stuff where
I'm like, I don't even know.

Speaker 5 (01:12:52):
Any of that shit was taking us.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Most of it was fabricated. In the same way that
there were these stories about Jews. I think I mentioned
this on the last these Jewish stories about how Hitler
had this deformed penis, when in reality it's Jeffrey Epstein
that had the deformed penis.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
According to victims and win Steed, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Crazy, but these things are I think these are really
important questions to ask and content. It's important context to
provide because most of us just hear something and then
we re react to it and we need to go
to the source of a word or the source of
a story. And I mean, it's it's actually kind of
unfortunate because I had a conversation, giving an example, I

(01:13:35):
had a conversation with a guy who told me that
he he had never heard any of this stuff before,
and I said, well, it's kind of metaphor.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
He said, what's a metaphor?

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
I said, it's like like a symbolic representation of some
You don't know what a metaphor is.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
I tried to explain it to it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
That's so weird. You're like, what are do you live
in the same world that I do?

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Yeah, yeah, it's like a it's like a figure of speech.
You didn't understand it was, and that I actually was
kind of revelatory for me. I thought, oh, well, if
you don't understand what a metaphor is, or what an
analogy is, or what like the point of a myth is,
then obviously when you hear or see this stuff you're
going to have a literal interpretation of it. You're going

(01:14:16):
to literally interpret that circumcision means cutting off part of
the penis. You're going to literally interpret that infidels have
to have their heads cut off. Which takes us back
to some of the things we were talking about a
few minutes ago. If you go back to the nineteen
fifties and you look at the I think it was
Operation Ajax, the overthreat of Muhammed Mosadeic nineteen fifty three,

(01:14:39):
and you look at in the nineteen seventies, the Islamic
Revolution in Iran.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Yeah, it looked totally different. It was like totally different
women exactly women looked.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
It was like they the term I hate it, but
the term progressive. How they're wearing like skirts and they
like were like you there's video footage of this shit.
And then do you think because people claim that the
again the Jews were essentially use Islam as like a
broom to sweep away the crimes against humanitio stuff that

(01:15:10):
you do. Do you think because there's an idea they
created the extremist element, this radicalized element of Islam of
the burkas, in the things they do to women and
controlling that aspect.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Well, that's a really interesting question for two reasons. One,
I get the essence of what you're saying. I'll respond
to that. The other side of that that's really interesting
is that, from what I understand historically, the burka and
the idea of covering the body or covering the head
is actually something that the Muslims derived from Christianity.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Interesting and their interpretation.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Of the Bible, because if you read the Bible, there
are multiple references to and I understand that the context
might be praying, but it's the woman having to cover
her head in the presence of God, which is why
Jews were Yamaka's come mind them that they're above them, right,
It's why the you know you remember that, you know
the famous haircuts of like the friars. Yeah, there's nothing

(01:16:12):
above them. You cut the hair off. It's just your head.
God is above you, connected to you.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
It's not I aren't actually thinking, Wow, that makes so
much sense.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Weird You cover your head in the presence of God?
Now it's funny. Okay, let me let me tell you
a little story.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
I shared that on my social media for the Secret
Teachings and I shared with uh, my audience the verse
from the Bible. I think it's it's in the Book
of Corinthians covering your head as a woman. And someone said,
but Ryan, that only means that if you're praying in
a church. And I said, yeah, you're right, it does.

(01:16:48):
And they said, then why are you trying to relate
that to Islam? And I said, because there's context to
provide first, right, So I said, what's the verse in
the Qoran that says women have to cover their heads?
And then provide me the context to it. If you're
going to do that with the Bible, you need to
do that with the Qoran. What is the context? So

(01:17:09):
you're you're right if you look back historically, in places
like Iran, women did not dress like that. Women dressed
totally differently. In fact, Iran was what we would probably
consider to be quite western.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Look, yeah, yeah, there's plenty of evidence and and photographic
and video evidence of that. So what's the by the way,
it's I looked it up to have a a confirmation
of this, so I know that I'm not telling people
the wrong thing. It's it's in the Book of First
Corinthians about the head coverings. So Muslims, I mean, Islam

(01:17:41):
is supposed to be an extension of Christianity. So no,
most Muslims do view it that way that I've talked to.
I mean, maybe not people that you've seen, but from
what I understand, if people I've talked to they see
Islam as the continuation of the message of Jesus, they
just leave that they have the right answers, which is

(01:18:02):
you know, everybody says, of course, but they get the
idea of the head covering from the Christians. Okay, So
let's go back to the idea of the Islamic revolution
and the question of what you proposed about the Jewish cult,
let's call it. They're all throughout the Middle East. Just
in my lifetime, it's been nothing but chaos and terrorism,

(01:18:25):
at least from what we've been shown in the media,
the news, right.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Remember the war in Iraq.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Remember all the newspapers that said Saddam had weapons of
mass destruction. There were babies that were ripped out of
incubators or baby stories that were fake. Testimony to Congress
all fake. Many of those stories were actually written by
Jewish journalists of course, that have an allegiance to Israel

(01:18:53):
and to the plan that Israel and the neo cons
had back in the late nineties, which part of the
project for the New American Century and rebuilding America's defenses.
Two of the three founders of that were Jewish, and
they had a plan, as General Wesley Clark said, I.

Speaker 6 (01:19:10):
Was just about to bring him up because he said
that he looked at and he was like, we're going
to destroy whatever set seven or nine countries, and conveniently
they all were Israel's.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
Enemies or perceived enemies.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Precisely, yes, And he said he saw that at the
Pentagon and that was the plan to take out quote
unquote takeout seven countries.

Speaker 5 (01:19:31):
And five were confused too, it seemed like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
And then that actually happened after nine to eleven. And
remember after nine eleven it was old they found Qurans
and the Muslims did this dancing Israel. There's there's no
mention of the dancing Israelis. That's even a hard newspaper
article to find anymore. Or the fact that they were
not just Israelis. They were Mosad agents that were sent
to document.

Speaker 6 (01:19:53):
And they had propelling like like were you propelled from
a height?

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
They had like harnesses and stuff. Why do they have
the art students? Why they.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
I never heard that. I don't remember reaching.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
There's there's art students that they found where they were
doing this like essentially like some sort of art project
in this building, and they found and then they just
cleared it out and and it was just like essentially
at front for something and there was like harnesses for
them propelling in like elevators.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
They quotations they think is going.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
On in the World Trade Center?

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
Yeah, yeah, really weird?

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Oh I think I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Know, I know kind of what you're talking about. I
never heard about the harnesses. Weird, dude, there are And
those five dance in israelis as they called them, went
back to Israel and went on TV.

Speaker 4 (01:20:38):
There's video of it. They went on TV and said
why they were sent over there?

Speaker 5 (01:20:41):
So what did they say? Do you know what they said?

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
They were sent over there to document the event. I believe.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, it was so crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
So then you have this continuation of the nineteen nineties
wars of the first Bush administration. You have the continuation
of that. You have the extraction of resources, you have
your oil, you have your drugs, you know, Afghanistan with
the opium fields, et cetera. That probably has something to
do with the crisis that we have today. The opioid

(01:21:12):
crisis we have today probably has something to do with that.

Speaker 6 (01:21:14):
David I called that stuff out is keeping the population
under like a drug hypnosis and keeping them all drugged
up so they never realized their full potential.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
Yeah, that's that's certainly part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
And then of course there's a relation that that relationship
that that shares with the alcohol stuff were talking about earlier,
the spirits and the possession. So okay, So we have
the Islamic Revolution, we have the we have Operation Ajax,
we have a lot of history in the Middle East
where we have the United States tampering with governments from
all the most Goodafi even asad A saw. In fact,

(01:21:50):
I have a friend who's Muslim, and I knew bits
and pieces of this, and she and I was having
a conversation with her. This was probably like seven years ago,
and always Idaho. She went to the university. She was
she's from Saudi Arabia and she we were walking and
she told me that she said, look, she said, the
Saudis are horrible people. She said, the royal family is horrible.

(01:22:10):
She said, they're they're like evil and she said, they're
actually Jewish. Did you know they're Jewish? I said, I've
heard that. She said, yeah, they're not. They're not even
actually real. I guess Muslims are real Arabs. They're Jews
and they run Saudi Arabia and they impose these strict
you know, rules and laws that that's She's like, that's
not Islam. And then as we're talking, this was around

(01:22:34):
the time, well one of the stints where our government
and our media in the West in the US were
pushing how bad Siria was. Sad's bad evil. They've got
a sod and call of duty. She's got to kill
a Saudi is the bad guy. And she said, she said,
do you know what assad means and I and I
said no. She said it means like lion or something.
I think it's something like that. But Charlotta, Sad means lion.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
It's a great leader. She said, do you know how
long he's ruled that country for? And I said said no,
I don't. Actually she said his famil's ruled the country
for three decades, thirty something years. And I said, really,
She said, yeah, don't you think it's weird that after
they've ruled the country for thirty years, suddenly they're horrible
people that have to be removed from power. And I said, yeah,

(01:23:17):
we've done the same thing with Saddam. We gave him
the green light initially to do the things that he did.
We even gave him the freaking weapons. Like don't yeah, yeah,
what was it? Bill Hicksey said, how do they know
they got the weapons? He's like, because we got the
receipts and I sold them to So I said, no,
I didn't. I didn't know that. I was aware of
all these things. I just didn't know the specifics about Syria.

(01:23:39):
And then I met some people from Syria and I
learned something else that was really interesting. And this will
tie into everything else we've been discussing. Tonight, I met
this girl from Syria because someone had said, hey, you
talk about Syria on your radio show.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
You mentioned it. You should meet this woman from Syria.
So I talked to this girl.

Speaker 6 (01:23:56):
Before Again, I just want to tell the audience and
stuff like that, I have nothing against Muslims, even Jewish people.
I look at things objectively, but when I see I've
always believed that these people, on the large scale of things,
are being manipulated. Not every Muslim is strapped with a
bomb like what they used to make people perceive. I've
actually stood up and spoke out a lot about Palestine

(01:24:19):
and what's going on there, and I actually respected the
Muslim religion until I saw some of the more radicalized
positions that they were holding within certain government. But I've
always thought it's not necessarily the people, it's the manipulation
that is being used on them. And then all of like,
I've never liked religion because of that, because they this supremacy,

(01:24:39):
whether it be Muslim supremacy, Jewish supremacy, Christians or whatever. Right,
I just wanted the audience to know that that I've
had friends and talk with people all the different walks
of life, but I've seen the radicalization of Islam in
such a broad spectrum or it's taking over countries now
of full blown dominance of like you have to bow
out to our gods?

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
What is my problem with it? Right?

Speaker 6 (01:25:02):
So I just wanted to add that that that's like said,
I'm not against Muslim people, but it's sad what's happening
in the UK.

Speaker 5 (01:25:07):
Like I think it's.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
Terrible, understandably, and I so when I met this girl
from Syria, she said, did you know that? Well, this
is in line with what you're saying and in line
with everything else we've talked about it Essen, she said,
did you know that we were talking? She said, did
you know that Christians are welcome in Syria? I said,
you know, I've heard that. I said, what's the deal

(01:25:29):
with with other religions? She said, well, Syria is probably
one of the very few areas of the of the
I guess you could call it the Middle East a
serious technically part of Asia's, like Iran is technically Western Asia,
which is one of the parts of the Middle East,
part of the world where everybody is relatively speaking, generally speaking, welcome.

(01:25:49):
And then you get this if you actually go and
you were to research like Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, if you
were to research like Iran. Yeah, there are extremists sects
where you might be persecuted, more so both societally and
even legally. You might not have as many rights if
you are a Christian. But Christians are allowed and in

(01:26:10):
some place is not just allowed. In some places, Christianity
make up a pretty good decent portion of the population.
That's contrary to the view that Christians are targeted and
slaughtered all across the Middle East by the Muslims. It's
actually kind of the other way around. It's the Jewish
state or the Israeli state that slaughters Christians in places. Recently,

(01:26:33):
you can look this up. INNBC News reported that Christian
village is intentionally targeted by Israel. Christians now face genocide
after the overthrow of a sod in Syria. Well, they
now face genocide. They didn't face it before, Now they
face it now that Israel has a connection.

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
What I've read, they absolutely hate. Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
So my point is the manipulation. And I grew up
in the United States. I was ten years eleven years
old during nine to eleven, and I grew up learning
that Muslims believe X, Y and Z and all these
countries they're just barbarians and terrorists. It's like, well, there's
a couple of things that we have to unpack here.
We have to understand that Israel was founded on terrorism. Yes,

(01:27:17):
percent Jews literally brought radical extremist zealotry terrorist tactics to
that part of the world as a foundational pillar by
which they created their state. At the very base minimum,
Israel is parallel on the same ground as the perception
they've created of Islam and all of these Muslim states.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
At the very bottom line, at Thetory lease.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Then you have to look at the US involvement, and
that goes back to your question with Israel and the
pushing of these narratives which have resulted in everybody seeing
in the West that Islam is the problem, which certainly,
in a lot of ways it is. But why is
it the problem? And why like in the Roman Empire,
would Christians and Jews be persecuted in the places that

(01:28:03):
they are so why would that be Well, because the
American government and because Israel has created so much as
Ron Paul used to call it blowback from murdering and
I did too, slaughtering and killing and degrading into meaning
these societies and these cultures and these countries for so
long that even again baseline minimum, we can understand a

(01:28:28):
little bit why if you are a Muslim, if you
did grow up in one of these places and you
learn what had happened to your people back in the
nineties or the early two thousands, yeah, you can understand
why they might feel the way that they do about Jews,
or about Christians, or about the West, or about the
big demon that is the United States. It doesn't mean
that I'm justifying it or I'm defending it. What it

(01:28:50):
means is we need to see things from the other
point of view to understand that these are people.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
Just like us. I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
And what did we do after nine to eleven, regardless
of who was responsible, the country banded together and we said,
we got to kill the people that killed us. Well,
that's what they think too, we got to kill the
people that killed us. And then you have to tackle
on the pushing of extremist Muslim ideology pushed by the
West as well as pushed by their own Muslim sex

(01:29:21):
the people that want power, and you just get a
powder cake.

Speaker 6 (01:29:24):
And it's never ending snowball that the snowballs key's getting
bigger and bigger, and then everybody's kids crushed by it.
A thing that I don't know, I'd probably didn't coin this,
but like an analogy I thought of recently is the
idea of like everyone is digging in their own graves
and then they're going to dig those graves big enough.

(01:29:45):
While they're clawing out the dirt because they don't even
realize how big their graves are getting. They can't even
get out now, and then everybody else falls into those graves.
And that's what it seems like we're going as a society.
And I didn't even think we're going to get in
this direction of this conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
I actually really enjoyed it.

Speaker 6 (01:30:01):
Like maybe in July or August, once the baby comes,
I'm taking a month off the show, but I'm building
up contents so the fans won't notice the difference.

Speaker 5 (01:30:09):
But I'd love to have you back.

Speaker 6 (01:30:12):
To talk more about this stuff mythology and because I
know you're limited on time and stuff like that, but
it is I gotta say. I've had a lot of
different guests on the show. It was something I never
wanted to kind of do it. It started out with
me and my friends, and I was like, you know,
I'm gonna have some interesting people on that I can
have these conversations with, and by far, you're probably got

(01:30:32):
You're probably one of the most interesting people that I've
had on at least in your takes of how you
view things is very similar to how I view things.
Of really trying to be objective and not put my
you know, my flag into the ground on a specific location.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
You know, I appreciate that, thank you, And also if
you would like, I can do probably another thirty minutes.
If if you would like to go a little bit longer,
or if you want to hold it till next time,
we can hold onto those ideas.

Speaker 6 (01:31:01):
Maybe maybe we should hold it on till next time.
I think it might be interesting to kind of provoke
the thoughts of the fans. And I'd not gonna I
feel bad for my dog. He's been probably down there
just eating as bone or whatever. But it's very interesting
to me some of the takes, like I could probably
we could probably do another ten to fifteen minutes kind
of thing. But like it's just it interests me of

(01:31:24):
just like I really appreciate the way you think, because
it's always the way I've tried to think. And and
you know, once my kid comes like this is kind
of like I called them my last hurrah where I'm
gonna have a couple of drinks tonight and tomorrow I'm
gonna go with my friends. We're gonna go like target shooting,
and I'm just gonna kind of enjoy myself and and
enjoy the weekend. But after that, I plan to knuckle

(01:31:45):
down to get extremely healthy, be working out, like essentially
cut out weed and alcohol and all that stuff, and
really focus on the inner temple and stuff like that,
and really try to focus on health because I know
that I can achieve it. I'm pretty physical at my
job anyway. But like that's been always something that I've had,
like a demon that I've definitely have an addictive personality

(01:32:08):
to some extent, And it is interesting how I would
like to get to a place where you seem to
be at where you're kind of your your stationary and
who you are and what you're trying to achieve and
what you're trying to be, and you don't let it
outside influences muddy the water.

Speaker 5 (01:32:26):
So expek, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
I try. That's all that we can do is try.
It's not always easy, but I try. Thank you for
making some very kind statements.

Speaker 6 (01:32:39):
Thank you said, why not like just at the end
of this, like what was the like can you tell
the audience because you're obviously in a kimono, right, that's
what that is that specifically?

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Oh, actually I didn't even you know, I didn't even
realize that that's what it looked like. It's like a
jen Bay It's a summer outfit in.

Speaker 5 (01:32:54):
Japan, Okay, because I yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:58):
I have a Godzilla shirt on.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
That's cool. I like that, That's sweet.

Speaker 6 (01:33:02):
I've always been fascinated by Japan and stuff like that too,
and and respected their national identity and they believe in
who they are and stuff like that. So could I
just get a like why you move to Japan for
the fans and the audience that don't know, I know,
like your wife's Japanese, you said, right, So like what
it fascinates you the most about Japan and the way

(01:33:22):
they do things and now that you're living there, because
they would do like as an outside perspective, it's just fascinating,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
It's really it's really weird that there's probably a way
to answer this question that kind of relates to everything
else we've been talking about, because we always have and
I'm sure that. I mean, I know, the Japanese have
their own perspective of America, just like Americans have their
own perspective of Japan. You think of things like ramen, sushi, Godzilla, Samurai, katanas,

(01:33:49):
cherry blossoms, and the Japanese think like hot dogs, baseball,
you know, things like that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:55):
Well, it's like with Canadians all beavers, maple syrup, beer,
fucking And it's like, that's why it's so funny, because
they've they that's what I'm a nationalist I am, like,
I'm a Canadian nationalist. I love my country. My family
has been here for fucking since the sixteen o four
and then the seventeen hundreds on my other side, and
so my family has deep roots in this country and

(01:34:18):
building it right, and it meant something.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
To be Canadian.

Speaker 6 (01:34:21):
There was a distinct national identity and it used to
be shown on the ensign flag of what showed the French,
Irish and the French, Irish, Scottish and English that built
this country obviously, and you have the what happened with
the indigenous.

Speaker 5 (01:34:35):
We can't change it is what it is that you've got.
We kind of have to move on.

Speaker 6 (01:34:39):
But they've equated our national identity like oh, Tim Horton's
and hockey and maple syrup, and that's like, that's not
who we are as a people.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
Those are just consumer products. So it's kind of sad,
but the.

Speaker 6 (01:34:49):
Same point it's kind.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
Of those kinds of things are comical.

Speaker 5 (01:34:53):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
I said that it's similar to what we were discussing earlier,
because sometimes they're not comical, like in terms of how
the web has viewed Islam and Muslim nations. But in
the case of Canada with maple syrup, or the case
of Japan with samurai or ramen, those are kind of
comical things. Same thing with like hot dogs and baseball
for Japanese.

Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
So I say that because.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
I had a perspective on Japan like most Americans do,
that was based on pop culture, and some of it's
actually true, and then other things are totally not true.
But the bottom line is the point is to answer
your question. I was always fascinated with Japan, like a
lot of Americans probably are, at least of pop culture,
and I decided that I wanted to learn more about

(01:35:38):
the culture a really long time ago, because I was
doing things in my life that people kept telling me
that's really Japanese, like sitting on the floor and never
wanting to Like I didn't want to sit in a chair.
I wanted to sit on the floor. Not that Japanese
don't have chairs, they do, but I would do. I
didn't know what that meant when people said, to your
Japanese you take your shoes off before you go in
the house, you sit on the floor, And I was like,
what do you mean? That's Japanese? And I learned bit

(01:36:00):
about the culture, and that's actually not just a Japanese thing.
It's a it's a pretty universal thing. You know, God
tells Moses to take off his sandals, he's on holy ground.
You go into any Buddhist temple that's not just in Japan,
take shoes off, right, Or if you go to Joel's
it was a Joel Stein who's crazy xas Is Texas church.
He doesn't want any homeless people in there, people during

(01:36:20):
the hurricane, because they're going to damage his carpet. So anyway,
in long story short, I enjoyed the culture. I don't
really watch any of the anime or stuff like that.
I just enjoyed the the cultural respect and I liked
the I liked the language, and I always thought Japanese
women were beautiful. So I ended up coming over here

(01:36:40):
last year and I met and that's pretty much that's
pretty much it. And I filled more at I feel
more at home over here that's pretty that's pretty much the.

Speaker 5 (01:36:49):
Post believe lives.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
Do you think maybe you're a Japanese in a past life?
I actually did a show on that. I don't know
if i'd say Japanese, but I did. I do have
a very strong connection and to Hiroshima. I don't know
what that means.

Speaker 5 (01:37:03):
Do you do you think that? Do you think past
lives are a real thing?

Speaker 6 (01:37:05):
Because I tend to that that we may have, like
some people may have not may some souls, maybe new souls.

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
But I've always felt.

Speaker 6 (01:37:13):
Like I've been here before, Like even when I mushrooms,
I was watching the woodstock footage and I was like,
My wife was upstairs and I was like, man, it's
so crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
I was like, do you think I lived back then?

Speaker 6 (01:37:25):
And She's like, you probably did all the drugs and
died in the field while the.

Speaker 5 (01:37:28):
Musicians were playing. And I was like, probably.

Speaker 4 (01:37:31):
Maybe it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
A maybe it's like a genetic memory, or it's an
ancestral memory. Maybe it's not like we've as an individualized
soul have lived before, but maybe we have these memories
of our ancestors.

Speaker 6 (01:37:42):
Well, I believe that it's like at DNA, it's intergrained
in who we are, right, like all that all even
you know, there's a guy named Jeremy Mackenzie that I
think is a very outspoken dissident of the government. He's
been on the show twice now, and the way he
explains things is is very thought out, and the way
he tries to interpret this nationalistic idea of who Canadians

(01:38:07):
are and stuff like that, or anybody in some places.

Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:38:09):
We talked about the Japanese actually, and he's like, I
can't move to Japan, put on a kimono and then
and then understand the cultural nuances and have roots into
the ground of what that country is. The same way
of like Indians coming. We've Canada's literally flooded, been flooded
with people from India and we share nothing in common,

(01:38:30):
in my opinion, not one thing in common at all.
There's so many differences between our cultures. But the thing
is with Canada and even just different people, it's like
all of that comes from like the same your DNA,
Like eventually, like my family whoever came over here on
a boat whatever sixteen oh four and before that traced

(01:38:50):
them to it where America is now, so God knows
how the hell it got here and all the experiences
and the things that they had to endure and the
struggles and survival and sacrifice, and then that's also in
me now from all of those generations. It's been in
like your DNA is like senshi and I believe that
type of stuff where it's like inside of you.

Speaker 5 (01:39:09):
Now, you know, what do you think about that?

Speaker 6 (01:39:11):
Because like it's part of all of these ancestral lines or.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
Kind of we say it's you know, it's in your blood.
It's in the.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
Family blood or the family tree to be really good
at something or be to be whatever it is that
your culture is. Like to be Japanese means to be Japanese.
Nobody can come over here who's not Japanese and be Japanese,
the same way that I can't go be Russian or

(01:39:41):
whatever that means. Because so many difference anywhere you go
in the world. I mean, there are like distinct racial
groups where it might be very close to one hundred
percent like pure in a sense, but like ultimately everybody's
kind of a mix of something, and I can't go
become some except for America. America is one of those
places where anybody can income and become an American. But

(01:40:02):
that's different than if you were a black American or
if you were an Indian.

Speaker 6 (01:40:06):
Well, that's like Canada was like ninety eight percent white
until like the eighties. Essentially, like since the concept of
the country, a lot of people like it was built
on multiculturalists, it wasn't, though. It was built on the
Europeans multiculturalist society, a Eurocentric society that then blended together
and made what we now know as a Canadian. And
that's why I find it very sad when people are like,

(01:40:29):
I can just show up here and become Canadian, and
I'm like, because I'm it says not my passport, and
I'm like, that's not You.

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
Can't become like who we are as a people.

Speaker 6 (01:40:38):
And share the roots in this land the same way
that I'm not a Jibwe, I'm not Mohawk.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
I'm not.

Speaker 6 (01:40:44):
Because a lot of people are like, well, Canadians are
the natives, I'm like, that's not true.

Speaker 5 (01:40:47):
They don't even.

Speaker 6 (01:40:48):
Identify as Canadian. A lot of them they identify with
the tribe they were associated with, the Iroquois.

Speaker 5 (01:40:55):
Like, so a lot of stuff like I'm going to.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
Play, Yeah, that's like with American history too. A book
when American History called Liberty Shrugged. It's a really big book.
And in that book I talk a little bit about
this kind of thing. If you're talking about like immigration,
like the Democrats in the US will say that our
country is built on immigration, well like kind of, but
when you have immigrants that were Chinese, or you have

(01:41:18):
immigrants that were German or whatever they are Italian, they
built things and worked really hard. They came here with
little to nothing. The Chinese built our railroads and they
didn't just walk into the country and get handed a
bunch of stuff. That's obviously you know, the that's obviously

(01:41:39):
the context that's not provided by the people that distort
history like that.

Speaker 6 (01:41:44):
Like even in Canada, everyone's like the Chinese built the railroads.
Most people don't know. It was a lot of Irish
and Scottish also, But the Chinese were paid and then
they were sent home, so like a lot of people
don't know about that.

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
Yeah, they were.

Speaker 6 (01:41:58):
Like okay, thank you, which is crazy because they didn't
want to do the dangerous work. So like, oh, these
will pay these cheap Chinese, they'll do it, and they
did it so well.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
If you think about even the idea of what it
means to be white. This is a relatively probably the
last thing we'll have time to talk about, a relatively
new term. Like it's relatively new in terms of the
the interpretation of the perception of what like the idea
of being white. Because, for example, if you think about
the we talked about the Roman Empire, the Roman Empire

(01:42:32):
was vast and it lasted actually thousands of years. The
Republic class had maybe a hundred if we're lucky, a
couple hundred maybe, But the Roman Empire was vast, and
it included parts of Africa, it included parts of Asia.
And like when I grew, I took advanced place for history,
and all I was ever told in class and then

(01:42:54):
also in entertainment is that like the Romans were a
bunch of like really big white guys and armor that
just just were took over places and killed people and
right people. It's like, that's really stupid. They weren't all white,
and they certain they were. Rome was a very multicultural society.
The idea of Rome, like the idea of America or

(01:43:15):
the US, became the United States, well maybe to some extent,
but you know, the idea that everybody is kind of
welcome and we all contribute to a not a communistic
greater good, but a societal greater good, or a nationalistic
greater good, or you know, the idea of Rome was

(01:43:37):
for people to be free and equal and for the
law to be applied equally to everybody, regardless of what
your views were, what you looked like.

Speaker 4 (01:43:46):
And that is that is true. Rome was that.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
In fact, Rome was probably that longer than the United
States has been that. And so when people say that,
you know, we think of Rome as the West, although
it included a lot of the East as well, or
parts of the East, at least the fringes of the
of the East. You know, it's like what is even
in the Middle East, Like Iran is not the Middle East.
Iran as Western Asia. Syria is Western Asia. You know,

(01:44:10):
the perspective of where you view things is really important.

Speaker 5 (01:44:14):
I guess its name from my Arian too.

Speaker 4 (01:44:17):
Yeah, they used to be white. That's where we get
the idea of Arians from. Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
So the idea of what I'm getting at here is
that if a lot of people in the conservative media
today will say that it's Western Christianity that kilt the West. No,
that's fundamentally flawed and incorrect because the Roman Empire and
what we consider to be Western Christianity is based on

(01:44:41):
if we're talking about Rome, Greek philosophy, the Greeks were
not and I don't think today consider themselves to be
white people. Likewise, Christianity came about one hundred years as
it was institutionalized in Rome in the West before the
Western Roman Empire fell, which means that we're talking hundreds

(01:45:02):
and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years before Christianity.
Rome was built on these principles which were based on
Greek philosophy, and the Greeks are not white. So Western
civilization coming from Rome or however we interpret that to
be in Europe, is not a white based system. It's
a universal system where multiple different kinds of people came
together and created something. Western society is not based on Christianity,

(01:45:26):
but Christianity played a pretty important role in establishing these
kinds of things that we call civilization in the West.
It wasn't white people, it wasn't Christianity, but that doesn't
mean that it's black people and then it's Islam. It
means that there's a multi cultural multi dimensional, multi societal, etc.
Combination of things that come together that creates civilization.

Speaker 6 (01:45:49):
Yeah, I agree to some extent, But like the one
last thing I think, do you like because I'm a
believer that white people deserve their own homelands as it
in general, whether that be Irish, the island. The Irish
deserve Ireland to be their home country. My one of
my coast is from Ireland, and they're being literally fucked
like their their their culture, They've been there for thousands

(01:46:11):
upon thousands of years.

Speaker 4 (01:46:12):
Ireland is under the a very oppressive assault. I agree with.

Speaker 6 (01:46:16):
You, same with the UK. I like I've always we
did the clergy plant.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:46:21):
They wrote about this one hundred years ago to make
everyone into a mud race quote unquote of low iq
animalistic type people that would just be ruled over by
like Jews essentially. And I read a lot into that,
and it seems like that's exactly what is happening. Uh.
And the guy, the the guy that wrote it, uh

(01:46:41):
he he was part of the un and all that
stuff too and the creation of it as far as
I'm read into it. And but I believe in like that,
Like now you're saying, now you're seeing Black people being like,
we need to take our homelands and go to Africa
because we want our own black society and African society
to your African country, which they are. There's tons of

(01:47:03):
countries in Africa that are just black people.

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
South Africa.

Speaker 6 (01:47:08):
When the Southern Africans, the Africans, when they went there,
there was no tribes there, so there's not this colonization.
As far as I read, there was no tribes that
has found land and built shit. And it is interesting
because you start to see this. I believe it's part
of a divide and conquer tactor the cultural Marxist shit,
which eventually this is a tough thing to get into
at the end of this, but I just wanted to, like,

(01:47:29):
I truly believe that everyone deserves their own homelands to
some extent, and I think we're going to see more
and more division because I think in some regard, diversity
causes division.

Speaker 5 (01:47:38):
If too many people different.

Speaker 6 (01:47:41):
Ideologies, religions, ethnicities, languages, and they all get tried to
get pushed together. If everyone's in a homogeneous society where
they are alike, I think those countries thrive more often,
and we've seen that in history. But there can be
this homogeneous society of black and Asian and white people together.

(01:48:01):
And in some regard, even in the nineties, Canada was
like that, where everyone collectively was like, Okay, we're going
to work hard to make this nation into something great
and keep it that way after the people that built it.
But it is sad to see what's being done all
around the Western world.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
We have we have a goal as a society and
as individuals to reach this point in development, whatever that
development is, whatever whatever the ultimate goal of society is,
and we're all working towards that, then it doesn't matter
who we are, what we look like, where we come from.
The problem, obviously, is when you've got one people that

(01:48:39):
are entitled, you've got two people that use immigration as
a political tool or as a military tool. And also
when you have people that, even if they're not bad people,
they're not being used in those ways. They're just a
little bit ignorant, or maybe they're a little bit self centered,

(01:49:01):
or whatever the case might be. They might not even
be immigrants. I mean, Russia, Japan, other countries are having
trouble with streamers, like live streamers. People come over here
to Japan. They're not really bad people. They're just clout
chasing and they do really dumb stuff, and then that
changes the perspective of Japanese on foreigners, and it creates

(01:49:24):
probably a little bit of hatred or discussed. I mean,
I'm not Japanese and I'm disgusted by some of the
things these people do over here. So I firmly believe
if I have to state a belief, if I'm going
to stay to belief, I'm not going to go as
far as defending like this outright say everybody deserves like
a specific homeland for one group or another. Because I

(01:49:46):
don't know what it means to be black. I don't
know what it means to be white. I don't know
what it means to be Asian, because there's so many
different Asians, we different blacks, we different whites. I get
the concept of what you're saying. I try to stay
neutral in net because I really don't know. And I
think what's most important is culture and trying to be
a If you're going to live in a different culture,

(01:50:07):
like I am, a very distinctly different culture, I tried
to adapt and abide by the culture.

Speaker 5 (01:50:13):
This is what I'm saying, right, and that I agree.
I agree. I agree because it didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:50:18):
Matt like, I did a video where I was like,
this is Toronto, Canada in the nineties, and I was like,
look at I was like, obviously, I was like. I
did another video. I was like, it's the nineteen fifties.
I was like, what do you notice there's a lot
of white people. And I kind of talked about like
the communist agenda. Pierre's father was a communist and he
assigned the Immigration Act to essentially flood the country with

(01:50:40):
people that were not from Europe or didn't want to
assimilate to our culture and stuff like that. And I
even pointed the nineties. I was like, this is a
time because I grew up then. I was born in
ninety one. My family was from Toronto. My grandfather was
a firefighter a chief in Toronto, and it was, yeah,
a multiculturalist city, but everyone was everyone got along and

(01:51:05):
adapted to what the Canadian culture was, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:51:08):
And and the more.

Speaker 6 (01:51:09):
That like, if we've flooded too many people in it,
people don't assimilate. And that's what my kind of point was,
that you can have like a cohesive society built on homogeneity,
even if it is people of different colors and races, religions,
language Like I wouldn't say languages. Everyone should speak a
fundamental the same language if they're coming to that country, right,

(01:51:31):
but like it, it has to be a cultural thing,
like they have to accept. If I really liked India
for some reason, I would go there and like a
Japan I've said this on the show before. If I
really found Japan interesting and I really wanted to live there,
I would adapt to and assimilate to their culture.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
That's the most important thing, which is also why I've
been highly critical of very political movements in the United States,
be it Trump or anything else, because it doesn't matter
who the president is. It really doesn't even matter if
we're talking about culture who members of Congress are. What
matters is what is the culture like? And a president
is not going to change the culture. Congress is not

(01:52:11):
necessarily going to change the culture. The culture is an
individual thing, and it's also something that is I think
in part programmed by entertainment and by media. And if
you can be excited that Trump's the president, Trump's doing
great things, we can debate those things, but ultimately it's
irrelevant because if the culture doesn't change. It doesn't matter

(01:52:34):
what Trump does, it doesn't matter what Biden did, It
doesn't matter what the next president does or doesn't do.
It'll be irrelevant to the fact that we have a
culture of degeneracy in the United States. And that's that's
the problem.

Speaker 6 (01:52:47):
And if they can, yeah, and if they can manipulate,
because that they manipulate people through social media, television, Hollywood,
tell mood would because of somebody else in college what like,
you know who is actually controlling things and they can
push and sway.

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
You see this in black culture.

Speaker 6 (01:53:03):
Like I am a hip hop artist, right, I made
controversial music. And like we were talking about ancestry. My father,
my grandfather was an artist. I can draw. My grandfather
used to do. His name was Tom Thompson. He used
to do paintings like the famous painter Tom Thompson here
in Canada, very similar was able to do it. He
was a jazz singer. So this stuff is like inside

(01:53:24):
of me. Even probably doing stuff like this is just
ingrained into my head. He was very political and he
got me into the whole researching into wars one side
and then eventually it led me to the other side.
But I just wanted to kind of end it of
this idea that you know, like, yeah, people, we've been

(01:53:44):
so manipulated and brainwashed. Where like before, like in Canada, right,
like everyone knew what it meant to be Canadian. We
felt like a big family. There wasn't this big manipulation
on television to some extent. But it's because people adapted
and brought the same level of intellect and working hard
and and tempting to just build a country. You know,

(01:54:08):
it didn't matter a lot of times where people came from. Right,
I'm an aunt that's Jamaican, came from Jamaica, adapted, you know,
became a Canadian what it means to be Canadian. And
I think that that needs to be taken into context.
But you see this now in the black community, I
was going to say quickly, is like the hip hop
culture is just Jewish subversion culture. Like they're the ones

(01:54:30):
that owned all the record labels, and we're like, yeah,
go shoot each other and fucking shake your ass. All
that stuff was great not by black people but by
the record executives.

Speaker 5 (01:54:39):
And it's like just sad.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
You see, this is unfortunately a very large part of
the problem and what we call Black society. Thomas Soule
wrote in one of his books that and it's statistically
verifiable that after the Civil War, within about thirty years
thirty thirty five years roughly of the Civil War by
the turn of the century. So this is post Civil war,
this is reconstruction era. And I actually talked about this

(01:55:05):
in my book Liberty Shrugged. The black society or the
black communities or community in the United States was a
very very spiritual and a very well a lot more
educated because they could be educated. They went from zero
to fifty percent literacy in thirty something years. Blacks had

(01:55:27):
I think, even stronger marriages statistically than whites did whatever
white's supposed to mean. They built churches, they built educational centers,
you know, schools, contrary to the Democrat view, and I
think frankly the Jewish promoted idea that there was never
a reparation form of reparations given to blacks.

Speaker 4 (01:55:48):
That's false.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
The Republican Party did actually provide reparations to the immediate
slaves or descendants of slaves, like the next generation, through
the Freedman's Bureau. The Democrats tried to stifle it, but
the Freedman's Bureau, which was run by the Republican Party
more so than by Lincoln or something. People think Lincoln
was the main one that he wasn't. It was the

(01:56:11):
Republicans in Congress, the House, and the Senate that ran
the Freedman's Bureau, and they did give reparations to those people.
The reparations thing is very similar to the Holocaust payments
for survivors. It's very similar to clack suffering is unique,
Jewish sufferings unique.

Speaker 5 (01:56:29):
I think it's pitting everyone against each other.

Speaker 6 (01:56:32):
And even I like, we'll how about that in this
but like I looked into something about like, okay, how
many black people existed in America in like seventeen seventy
six or something something like. I think there was something
like that, and there's like two percent of the population.
And how many people of those two percent of the
population were descendants of slaves was twenty six percent of
two percent of the population. So it wasn't this grandiose

(01:56:55):
thing that people think it was. And it's finally because
they still complained about slavery even the other the words
slave because from Slavic of the Slava people beings like
which is so the people have been so polarized and conditioned,
and that's why I think this whole interesting where this
one talk went, because I didn't know where we're going
to get into. I actually thought I was going to
ask you questions about like serial killers. I had a

(01:57:16):
couple of ideas and like magic and the occult and
stuff like that. But I'm actually glad where the direction
of the conversation went, because like, people need to stop
holding onto these victim mentalities and stuff like that and
realize that, I don't know, collectively, either we tribalism exists
in one form or exist in no form, Like you

(01:57:38):
can't have these different nuances, and people like, WHOA, we
want this and then other people want that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
There's nothing wrong with There's nothing wrong with tribalism in
the sense that you want to live in a community
of people that look and act like you and believe
the same things. There's a difference, however, between living in
that community because you choose to and living in that
community because it's man dated by policy like segregation or

(01:58:04):
some form of forced immigration.

Speaker 6 (01:58:07):
One last thing did you ever hear about, Like, as
I read into this stuff, and I heard that like essentially,
like barely any actual whatever, like white American people that
weren't of Ashkenazi descent owned slaves. It was the majority
of people that owned slaves were Jewish, and they would
actually close on Jewish holidays and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
It depends on where you're looking. So in the Dutch colonies, yes,
most of the Dutch colonies were I think it was
a third or more were Jewish run the slave trade,
and they did shut down slave auctions on Jewish holidays
because nobody would have showed up. In the United States,
it's a very convoluted thing. I don't know if it's
the owners per se, but I do know that a

(01:58:49):
lot of the slave ships were owned by Jews and
the financiers, of course, going back to that usury thing
we talked about, were largely Jewish finances, or I mean,
slavery was a corporate system with the plantations and the
ships and all of this. But then again you have
to look at you know, the Muslims actually probably transferred

(01:59:11):
more slaves than ever came from.

Speaker 5 (01:59:14):
The Atlantic slave trade to people.

Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
Oh yeah, and like you said, slav But to leave
the audience with something magical for our next conversation, what
you said about what you said about the word slave,
I mean this is magic or like alcohol, the origin
of the word that is magic because like for example,
if you were to write something, you write something down, well,
you're writing, and that is a right, as in a

(01:59:41):
right or a ritual. And when you're writing your spelling,
so you're casting a spell. And when you're writing in
cursive it's a curse. Right, So these are very important
things that we never think of. We call it maybe
twilight language or something to that effect. Something Jordan Maxwell
kind of popped. They rise that the idea of these

(02:00:01):
types of things, But that is magic, and that is
in the word slave, like sloth, or it's in the
word holocaust. Because a holocaust doesn't mean killing a bunch
of people. It means a bunch of people by fire.
So what happened to Jews six million or otherwise is
not really a holocaust. And if it is a holocaust,

(02:00:24):
then everybody else who died alongside of them, likewise died
in a holocaust, not just six million, par less than
six million, or what the Royal Air Force did to
Dresden was a literal holocaust. Two hundred three hundred thousand
burned alive in fires that were so massive that they

(02:00:45):
basically lit the atmosphere on fire, is what it looked
like from the Royal Air Force pilots and the American pilots.

Speaker 4 (02:00:51):
And that's the same thing they did the Tokyo.

Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
They burned forty percent of Tokyo before they bombed Hiroshima,
and they did that with experimental napalm.

Speaker 6 (02:00:58):
Like in Cineraries was talking about this before on a
Patreon episode before we started of like, I did a
review of Kanye West news song and I was talking
about like how they did It's kind of hilarious, man,
it was.

Speaker 5 (02:01:12):
The ending was like catchy, and I was like, man
the hell. I was like, oh my god, this shit
is wild that he did this.

Speaker 6 (02:01:19):
And so I was like talking about it and talking
about the war and stuff like that, and Hitler as
a person, and I think he's kind of control a
position and stuff like that that like maybe a rothschild.
There's so many different nuances to that whole conversation we
can get into on another time, but I just said,
like that never needed to happen. The war was coming
to an end. They're like, let's just try this fucking
bomb out. Essentially, from what I've taken. That's what they did.

Speaker 4 (02:01:39):
They were like they didn't need to do that on Hiroshima.

Speaker 3 (02:01:43):
Yeah, yeah, that is a really interesting story, not only
because the bomb, well, they bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki. One
of the bombs might have actually been a bomb that
the Germans built with assistance from the Japanese. I'm not
saying it was, I'm saying might have been. This is
part of the theory of the missing you boat and
the ranium that went missing at the end of towards

(02:02:05):
the end of the war, that maybe they dropped one
of those bombs that was meant for Manhattan on Japan
that would be built by the jah.

Speaker 6 (02:02:12):
Let's talk about this next time, because I could talk
to you for hours, but we'll bring into a club.

Speaker 4 (02:02:17):
They did use it. They did use it as an
experiment though, experiment for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:02:22):
And one last thing, so I just go so when
I'm writing rhymes and I'm creating music and stuff like that,
you think I'm making a magical spell.

Speaker 4 (02:02:32):
It is.

Speaker 3 (02:02:32):
That's what That's what music is, and that's where the
word comes from. It comes from the muses like museum music, musician.

Speaker 6 (02:02:39):
My music's pretty controversial. I've I like, uh, I have
songs called conspiracy theory where I dive into like a
massage shot JFK with the help of the CIA chemicals
in the water, or turn the freaking frogs gay.

Speaker 5 (02:02:53):
And I do stuff like that. And I've talked.

Speaker 6 (02:02:55):
About like the whole idea of like the replacement kind
of theory and what's going on in the world world
so interesting. I'm like, right, yeah, interesting, yeah, yeah, for sure, right,
And I brought that up.

Speaker 5 (02:03:07):
I did a video that got me banned from TikTok.

Speaker 4 (02:03:10):
For showing that.

Speaker 5 (02:03:12):
I was like, oh, yeah, it's just I said it, like, oh,
this is.

Speaker 6 (02:03:14):
Just a coincidence that the UN has a real document
of this. I showed it behind me and then instantly
just band wiped out.

Speaker 5 (02:03:23):
I was like, all right, well, I've done this twenty times.

Speaker 6 (02:03:26):
So, but I appreciate you having you on, Like, like
I said, you were one of the most interesting guests
I've had on and I find you very easy to
talk to and easy to have a conversation with. And
there's always more and more things I want to ask
just because like your thoughts are interesting to me, and
I'm aware of a lot of the stuff that you
talk about, but not fully in full context and detail

(02:03:47):
of what you've looked into. I like that you look
at you look at things objectively, You're not swayed towards
a certain angle like a lot of people are, like
I've I guess on that I do enjoy having on that.
Maybe you're fixating on Christianity or another type of that
kind of realm of This is my focus and what
I truly believe. And I've always tried to question everything,

(02:04:09):
So I appreciate you coming on. I would love to
have you on again, especially when like everything's settled down
with the kid at some point, like well we'll figure
something out by b July, August, September or something like that.

Speaker 5 (02:04:18):
But definitely we'll love to have you back on.

Speaker 6 (02:04:20):
But let the audience know where to find you, and
I'm sure they're going to really enjoy this conversation.

Speaker 3 (02:04:27):
Yes, thank you for having me on. And if you
would like to find my show, it is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday Friday. It's called The Secret Teachings. It is available
on my website tstradio dot info, or you can type
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et cetera. Spreaker is the main platform, the free archive.

(02:04:48):
It is on the website. It's got all the links.
I'm sure you'll put links and whatnot in the show
description or something to that effect. There's advertisements in it,
so we drive people to subscribe to the free show
on the website, which has more than just the show.
It has the document archive, which has documents like that
you in replacement document. It's got the document you can

(02:05:09):
look at. You can download it directly. That's part of
our article archive, videos, montages, et cetera. TST radio dot info.
If you want to contact me r D g A
B l E. Ladygable at yahoo dot com. And although
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we have an x page which is a new one
because we got banned before, a Facebook page which has
not been banned, surprisingly, and YouTube is surprisingly back up.

(02:05:33):
So I put a few things up there. It's all
linked up TST Radio dot Info.

Speaker 5 (02:05:37):
Awesome.

Speaker 6 (02:05:37):
Yeah, that's good because we've danced the line with YouTube.
I'm quite sure you know. Our protocol episodes are still up.
Fingers crossed. It stays up. They try to take do
they tried to take it down and then I appealed it,
and I think it's just the way I was like,
I'm this is not anti semitic or whatever. I just
try to really phrase things of like hey, like we're

(02:05:57):
just questioning things and showing you, hey, they look.

Speaker 5 (02:06:00):
At this weird venue.

Speaker 6 (02:06:02):
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stay strange. Okay, okay, awesome, I thank you again for joining.

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Send me like, uh, what like your all your like
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I added your website in the first episode, but I
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