The Mass Graves Hoax | Residential Schools | Exposing the lies & Manufactured Guilt w/ Jim McMurtry! - Strange Brew Podcast!

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Speaker 4 (01:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:08):
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Speaker 5 (01:19):
We begin tonight with the horrific discovery at the former
Kamloops Indian Residential School in British Columbia.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
You would shave our heads and beat the hell out
of you.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
These are crime scenes.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
The residential schools was a genocide of our people.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Two hundred and fifteen children were found in unmarked grades.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Because of your white privilege, you can't tank our truth.
The federal government is ready to dispense.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Ten million dollars, eight million dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Twenty seven million dollars to find unidentified burial sites. We
will follow the evidence, we will follow the science.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
We are here for truth telling.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Neo trobal elites are pretending that it's been found that
there's two hundred and fifteen children.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
There's a difference between murders and children dying in the building.
There's no list of names of missing children at any
of these schools.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
That's been my battle for four years. There wasn't murder,
there wasn't genocide. Why do you think they are holding
to this mass grave story. There have been all kinds
of political gains as a result of this story.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
This week, the Senate passed Bill C fifteen, aimed at
aligning Canadian law with the United Nations Declaration on the
Rights of Indigenous People.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
That law was a surrender of the province.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
They have a right to the land. They own it,
all of it.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
So stop what we're saying.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Could someone be benefiting from land being handed away?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Willy nilly?

Speaker 5 (02:54):
They're worried about property rights and how it could possibly
affect them with the joint of legislation.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
You're not getting the truth.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
It feels like there is an incredible desire to keep
this down. The reaction from those with various kinds of
interests will be.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Fished best members incoherent and consistently racist posturing in this
House against Indigenous and First Nations. Denihilism is hate. Is
there an end? Are we ever done reconciling?

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Why haven't you dug in the ground yet?

Speaker 3 (03:24):
The millions of dollars who receive all these millions that
are the revenues are going through. My bad.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's not empowering Aboriginal people at all.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Because we have no idea where all this one is going.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
The journey of reconciliation is alone one, but it is
a journey we are on.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Welcome back to the show, everybody, Welcome back. I'm Tom
kat Ak, Tom Thompson, your illustrious hosts, and tonight we'll
be tearing into the one of the most weaponized stories
in Canadian history, the residential schools. For decades, we've been
fed the same script, genocide, mass graves, murder of children.
But when you dig dig into the records, the archives

(04:04):
the real history, it paints a very different picture. And
we'll also be shedding shedding and shining some light on
some other mainstream topics that you know, people don't really
want to talk about. You know, this is this isn't
about being comfortable. This is about telling the truth objectively,
especially our history, and people deserve the truth and not
to be fed a lot of these cultural Marxist talking

(04:25):
points that fuel division and lies. So welcome to the show.
I want you to introduce yourself, sir, to all the audience,
tell everyone a little bit about yourself, and then we'll
kind of get into your story.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, thank you very much. Tom. My story is kind
of an interesting one that just first of all, just
say that I was a longtime teacher, principal for a
little while, worked in as a college lecturer. I did
graduate work at the University of Toronto, got a PhD,
piled higher and deeper on the subject of, among other things,

(04:59):
Indigenous education. She used to be called Indian education policy
in the in the eighties. So I know what I'm
talking about, and yet nobody thinks. Nobody else thinks so,
and they got rid of me in the school system.
And I'll likely never get back in. Nobody will hire
me again because I'm saying something this is pretty obvious

(05:19):
that as you putting it out on the screen, you know,
it's just one big hoax. And it's not just what's
what's not buried in Kamloops. This is the whole image
of residential schools of Canada, of what they're saying about
our history, what they're saying about Christian missionaries and explorers
and sellers, builders, that the men and women who formed

(05:43):
Canada are now being portrayed, defamed, the debtor being defamed
as murderers of Indigenous children. I think you know that,
I think that you couldn't come up with a worst
you know, defamation.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, and it's it's uh, it's quite clear that this
is being used for an agenda. And you know, at
one point in my life I probably kind of fell
for it too, but especially within the last recent years,
I've always been aware of some of the stuff that
the government tries to pull. But it's, uh, it's clearly
a plan. And because I started studying communism and like
cultural Marxism and stuff, it started to like show, oh,

(06:23):
this they've done this before, They've done this in other nations,
essentially trying to demonize the the people who built it,
because if people don't have an identity, then they can
tear it all down. Like what I always kind of
point to is like if if kids, the kids, especially
the youth, they did this during the Bolshevik Revolution, if
you brainwash them to like hate their ancestors or to

(06:46):
think of them as villains, then when their country is
being torn apart, uh, they won't care because they think
that it's built on genocide or whatever other buzzwords they
like to use. And then uh, and then it strips
them of their heritage and they'll actually help facilitate their
own kind of destruction. So let's just get into it.
You know, we're told mass graves of hundreds of children

(07:08):
were found at Camploops in May twenty twenty one. Ground
penetrating radar surveys at the formal Camploops Indian Residential School
showed soil anomalies, disturbances in the underground, and the headlines
scream that two hundred and fifteen children found in mass graves.
But if you go beyond the headlines, no where human
remains were found. There were nothing, not even a single skeleton,

(07:31):
not a single skull, and they did scans and there's
not a mass grave. These are anomalies and there's no
evidence of human remains years later, no forensic proof, no
excavations revealing bodies. Yet, churches were burned, people were vilified
in Canada, was told to collectively hang its head in shame.

(07:52):
And we'll get into the stuff because I want to
hear your opinion. But essentially these the mortality, as far
as I looked into, of the residential school was driven
by disease ademics. Much like every other place. It's borkylosis, smallpox, influenza,
diseases ravaging all communities in the late nineteen and early
twentieth centuries. Government documents show that in many years, the
mortality rate of these schools were equal to or even

(08:14):
lower than mortality rates among Indigenous children living in homes
in their communities at the time. So, yeah, I want
you to kind of get into maybe where all this started.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, well again, it's just absolutely delightful to be able
to tell my story. And I think it's an interesting story,
in part because I'm the son of a politician who
involved in bringing page A Constitution included the chartered rights
and freedoms. He was Chief Justice of Centario, he was
Attorney General. He had an interesting career and so I

(08:50):
learned from him. And one thing that I never heard
before was the candidate was this racist hellhole. And that's
how it was being presented, you know, almost five years
ago where I was teaching an abbys for British Company,
but it was all across the country. Another the interesting
thing about me is that when I did my graduate

(09:12):
work and history of fossil of education, that I did
it under Mark Karney, our Prime Minister's father, who was
considered Robert Carne, was considered the leading expert on these
again Indian residential schools as they're called, and he was
an incredible man. And everything that I've ever said certainly

(09:36):
is within the tradition, within the legacy that he established,
is of trying to help Indigenous kids. And so what
you have is this incredible deformation. You have the people
who did the most for Indigenous children, Native children back

(09:56):
in time are the ones that are being called my murderers,
serial killers, nuns with guns, you know, murdering ministers. These
are the ones they did the most. It's not as though,
it's not as though are our elite in Canada are wrong.
And it's not as that they're stupid either, because they're

(10:18):
playing with us. They darn well know. They said three
years ago October twenty seven, twenty twenty two, the Canada,
through his residential schools, committed to genocide. Well, you know,
nobody believes that. And then they started using different words,
as they do with language or well, what we really
meant was cultural genocide. But the Truth and Reconciliation Commission,

(10:42):
which went from you know right up into twenty fifteen,
it was that it referred also to physical and biological genocide.
So it's as though the elite for a couple of
decades now have have connived right now into saying we're

(11:03):
going to so we look better so because we're going
to be doing something about it, and of course they
don't do anything. They make it worse. They keep Indigenous
people thinking that the thing to do is to live
in the path, to decolonize, to live in a teepee
and you know, start a fire with by rubbing sticks.
It's just the most absurd thing. And what they should

(11:23):
be doing is they should be helping indigenous youth get
away from the ills of their own communities, these communists
enclaves where there's problems with alcohol and drugs. My own
nineteen year old nephew a couple of years ago, he
had been schooled on a reserve and you know a

(11:46):
lot of friends who are Indigenous, and one of them
gave him fen and all and kill them. Wow, real
life problems on these reserves. And so what do we do.
We don't do anything to help these people. What we
do is we pretend that all the people in Canada
were helping him in the past are terrible. And then
all the politicians coming in recent years are our knights

(12:09):
and shining armor, and they can slag all of us
and slag my parents and my grandparents and including my
great uncles who and great great grandfathers who worked as
missionaries in Canada and think they're doing something virtuous. That's
the whole thing about the woke. But these dei lunatics
is that they have people believing that they're actually doing

(12:31):
something of value for the country for other people, when
all they're doing is just trying to promote themselves to
a greater extent. And hopefully we won't notice how much
they're paying them themselves. And you know, all the goods
they have well of.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
The second highest paid politicians, And I was wanting to
hear your thoughts because, like, what do you think of
Mark Carney, because I think he's one hundred percent of
globalist communist right, like in my eyes of what he's pushing.
A lot of people were sold that he's like this
nice guy that cares for Canada when he is definitely
in the pockets of w EF agents that are infiltrated

(13:10):
our governments and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
I don't think he knows. I don't think he gives
a darn about Canada. I don't think he cares at
all about nour. I don't think he knows what the
regular Canadian is. But I don't think, you know, a
lot of the politicians in recent years really have.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Any understanding Canadian is. They can't tell you what a
Canadian is.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
No. Well, we saw it particularly during during the Trucker convoy.
You know, it was just what was it two days
ago that they're finding out that they're giving more house
arrest and curfew to Chris Barbera and to Mary Leach.
And I'm there was no event in Canadian history during

(13:51):
my lifetime and I'm sixty six and a half, so
I know what I'm talking about. There was no other event,
not even winning the hockey match against the Russian in
nineteen seventy two. There is nothing in our history for
a long time, folks, can that matches the national pride
of communities all across Canada carrying the flag and getting

(14:14):
out and uniting and getting on top of cars. And
it was the support of truckers and then they end
up having this big truck or convoy go all the
way to Ottawa and the dead of winter, and it
was the most incredible thing. People like Carni and Trudeau,
they had no understanding. This is the everyday Canadian. Don't

(14:36):
take away the things that we fought hard for. You
said before we began, you taking this thing you talked about,
you know, you know, Canada a bit of a rough place.
People worked hard build it up or whatever. Oh my gosh,
we don't really know Tom what it was like, because
I have some sense because it used to be colder

(14:58):
in Canada and I lived in the north a little bit,
so I know. But we really don't have any idea
what it was like two hundred years ago.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
My family, my I've traced my one of my grandma's
back her bloodline to sixteen oh four in Canada.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Oh but but you're not indigenous, you know why, because
you're European. Europeans the only ones that don't aren't indigenous anywhere,
according to the World Economic Forum and all these these
globalists net cases that they this idea that white people
can't have any can ever be native to anything.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, it's from Ireland and they're doing it to Ireland too.
It's not good.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah. Yeah, So i have the last name of Mercury,
and I'm hoping maybe some people that are following this
will check me out on on X because I'm you know,
I'm doing the work that you guys are doing. I'm
going up against the taboos, against the against the you know,
the open lies, against the manipulation of children. You know
they're they're doing this mostly in schools. You talk to

(16:01):
a group of Canadians and say, you know, you don't
on the land you're living on, you might get hit
over the head with a shovel or a hockey stick.
So they don't go after your regular guys like me
and you and say this nonsense because they know they're
going to get some opposition, So they go after kids
in schools and they say the most awful things. Then
I you just mentioned six things really quickly, they go

(16:24):
after and the last thing I'm going to talk about
is the indigenous thing. And then just mentioned my show
very quickly. So they go after all the gender. Oh,
little eight year old, you're in the wrong body. You
ever thought of mutilating and at yourself and sterilizing and
you ever having kids? So number one is the whole
gender trends. You know, we need to know your sexuality

(16:45):
through your pronun We need to creep into everything about
you as you go through the confusing sexual years of
a teenager. The second thing is with race. Oh, your color,
your skin color is going to affect your future. And
if you're if you look like me, you're a monster.
And if you look a darker shade, then you know
you're going to be a victim forever. And just to

(17:07):
fill their kids heads up with the idea that their
birth characteristics are going to determine everything. The next thing
is they're taking away all academic values in schools. They're
they're doing things like equity marking and removing the challenge
and the fairness of it all. And the equality used
to be equality of opportunity. Now it's no, no, no,
we're communists. We have to you know, Chinese kids are

(17:29):
doing really well, don't do anything for them. Just bring
up the kids who aren't working as hard. And and
but you can't do that if you have X number
of scholarships to give in up in a year, then
if you're going to give more to the less deserving groups,
then you're taking away from the more deserving groups or
kids and and and so that's three things. The fourth

(17:50):
thing is that getting rid of all sorts of good books,
like literature that I love, kill mocking Bird, whatever, because
oh this word might hurt or then whatever, or oh
my gosh, this one group isn't portrayed, you know, like
they're they lived in an Eden, whatever. And but they're
denying kids the right to read the best of what

(18:12):
has been written and said and to enjoy you know
that that transportation into other people's worlds and imaginations. Another
one is there they're completely The fifth one is they're
going against history. They're telling us all these lives been
in history. Oh you know, we did this to the Chinese,
We did this to the Indo Canadians. We did this
to the Jews, We did this to the Indigenous, We

(18:34):
did this to the Blacks, we did this go on
and on and on to women and the Duke of Wars,
all these groups we are just horrible with. And you go,
hold on a second. It's the actual the opposite when
you look at groups in Canada and where would they
have better where would they have been better received than
than here? And so the last one, and I could

(18:54):
go on for a long time, but the last one
of the sixth that I wanted to mention to you
was about Indigenous and that is you got daily land acknowledgements.
In many schools you have kids all wearing orange. Of course,
I have to wear thousands of different colors, it seems
depending on what propaganda, you know, the principal or the
school board decides to to work through the school system

(19:15):
that day. But the Indigenous things very upsetting because it's
going after people's basic rates, it's going after people's property.
And we've got a premier in British Columbia who who's
on the outer edge of this. I really, you know,
I'd be really interested that he should do, you know,
some sort of lobotomy on him after he perishes one day,

(19:38):
because I just don't know what what what would make
his brain tell things? A good idea to give away
huge chunks of British Columbia like Hai to Guay and
parts of Richmond and parts of the Seashell or Sunshine Coasts,
and on and on and on. You doing this without
regard for the people who pay the taxes. You're giving

(19:59):
a huge chunks of property and the right to make
decisions to people who aren't paying taxes, who are getting
free this free everything. Oh, it's not that much that
they're getting. Oh my gosh, you know how much I
paid for my three kids university of education. All three
of my kids went to university for a total of
twenty four years. You know how much money that costs me.

(20:22):
And others are getting it free because they have you know,
the ancestors, how to expect of this or whatever. And
then so to me, it's very upsetting when you when
you start taking Canadians and say, well, this group, based
on ancestry whatever, has more rights than the next group.
So I'm a I've see in you behind you got

(20:42):
the Great White North. I'm very proud of the fact
of European built country and so forth. I'm proud of
the fact that it's tough land, a lot of snow
in the winter. I'm proud of you know, the the
whole mystique about Canada is vaz Land and people who
are coming here from Zimbabwe and they're being treated badly

(21:03):
because of their skin color. I would say, that's not
the Canada I know, and we're going to do everything
we can to give them the same opportunity to be successful.
That's that's the canon. Now what they're doing, They're they're
taking all the people who are white European like me,
and they're firing them if they dare question all this

(21:25):
incredible dystopian ideology religion that's coming in. So all I
said one day in class four and a half years ago,
is the kids that died in residential school. And there's
some that died, as you already mentioned that those that
died did so from disease, some cases accidents fires, because

(21:47):
the kids were talking about you know, oh my gosh,
there was you know, babies that being you know, produced
after the priests were raping the girls and then they
would put the babies in the center aiser, hanging them
on a books or drown them and yeah, just all
these stories. I mean, you know it's hard when you
know Canada and you say to the kids, well again,

(22:10):
it was minuder studying those that died tragically while enrolled
in residential school did so for disease. I was walked
out of the building and I'll never teach again. So
that we have a very serious problem. You're putting your
jailing Tamari Leech. She had four days in solitary confinement,
two nights, I believe, sleeping on a concrete for You're

(22:33):
taking the heroes that stand up for the rights of
ordinary Canadians like truck drivers and putting them in jail.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
What did that to Jeremy Mackenzie? Like that's quite He
was a veteran of Canada, like you can't. Like he
fought in wars for perceived freedom and realized they were
all being lied to. I was like, it's something I'm
not going to teach my kids this stuff, Like I'm
going to make sure you know that they're proud of
their heritage. And a lot of people want to bring
up all these talking points that they actually have never
liked into or read books about even the idea there

(23:02):
was a genocide in North America. Ninety five percent of
the native population died because of disease. And the funny
thing that a lot of people want to point like
don't want to point out, is, you know, like, where
would they be without white Europeans. Essentially they'd be living
essentially in the Stone Age. And it's not like saying
negating that. You know, maybe their way of life was
good in some aspects, and there were some aspects that

(23:24):
were negative, but they were like by definition, colonizing each other.
They were there. There was tribes like the Iroquois that
would take over other tribes, and they did this in
the same way that Europeans did across the world. It's
the same type of thing. But I clearly see, and
I've pointed this out on the show before, that I
do believe that they're now essentially trying to ethno side

(23:46):
white people all across the world. I have friends all
across the world in Ireland and England, and all their
nations that their ancestors built are being subverted. And all
of these things that the schools are teaching do really
reflect what was going on in Russia and in the
Weymar Republic. The first transgender clinic was in Wymar, Germany.

(24:08):
So there's like a lot of things reflecting on the
way that history was and what they're trying to push now.
And I think they're trying to make it like the
Wymar Republic, where there is no rules and it's all degeneracy,
and and they're trying to shame and guilt specifically white people.
And we're less than seven percent of the worldwide population.

(24:30):
And I think that like people that came here that
wanted to assimilate, I actually have a lot of Asians
that support my messages when I've done videos that I've went
viral about some of this stuff, and people that came
to Canada, whatever skin color they may be, and adapted
and assimilated and loved Canada for what it was. But
Canada at its core is essentially white Europeans. They're the

(24:51):
ones that built it. Yes, with help of small fractions
of other ethnic groups, but realistically, without white Europeans, there
is no Canada. No one would become here, there would
no be you wouldn't be unified nations, there wouldn't be
infrastructure in schools and and uh from as far as
I've looked into, the resident schools are not like death camps.
There were government funded institutions ran by churches aimed at

(25:14):
giving Indigenous children literacy, trade and language skills to integrate
into the growing economy. And I'm sure there was abuse
and stuff like that. And it's interesting because I wanted
to point to the fact that there was also abuses
like in other institutions and orphanages and like, and it
happened in schools, like it's just something that happened, and
to shed light on just this that this is what

(25:38):
was is not necessarily true and factual, right, Like I
see reports that they I've seen there was I saw
like some quotes camera what what the guy's name was,
but he said it was like the best times of
his life when he was a kid.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, I know, but it's all wrong, you know, there
is just so you look at these pictures of kids
and and then you get someone who makes up a
big whopper, like the woman who began them the orange
Shirt Day and her name's Phyllis and website. And what's
interesting about her is is she said that her shirt

(26:15):
was stolen, her new orange shirt that her grandmother brought
to her. She doesn't say that her parents abandoned her,
she doesn't say that her uncle's sexually and physically assaulted her.
She doesn't say about how horrible it was on her reserve.
So she comes paid for by Canadian Society for one

(26:36):
year to a city, a very small city, a large
town called Williams Lake and central British Columbia, and she
goes to a local public school, but she stays in
a hostel and a residence that used to be residential school,
so she never went to residential school. And you got
all these people all across Canada, you know, wearing their

(26:58):
orange you know, showing people that are part of the hate.
Those who aren't wearing orange shirts hate people like me
who are daring to say that these people aren't history
as angels. And so she says, oh, and you know,
the nuns, you know, did terrible things for me, and
they took my shirt and they cut my hair, and

(27:19):
they're telling this in daycare to my three whole grandson.
And you go, oh, hold on a second. We don't know,
because we've only got it from her that she even
had an orange shirt. We don't know that it was
taken away permanently. Maybe she did have one and it
was washing given back to her. Maybe it was full
of life, maybe it was full of holes. We don't
know anything. Then you can't say history is based on

(27:42):
one woman who's now probably a multi millionaire. Is as
said Upo, there were no nuns there. There were no
nuns in all, possibly because she went to the school,
a school again that was public and where she was
staying used to be a residential school, but it had
been taken over by the Guy government four years earlier,

(28:03):
so there's no need for nuns to have been there.
Nuns wouldn't have been in charge, it was the government,
so that part of the stories falls. Cutting hairs, he
doesn't say, well, kids had lights. If you see look
at these girls in the picture, they're not bold, they've
got hair. What what what are they talking about? That
they kept hair shorter on on girls. Then maybe some

(28:24):
girls might have wanted but it's still a nice length.
And and the reason that they would have done that
at first is, you know, simply for lace. So it's
just such a fascinating thing. You talk about white people
being you know, under eight percent of the world's population
and or maybe less than that, I think you might
even say.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
I think we're facing a genocide herself, but a quiet
one that they don't want to.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no. But it's very clear that
you know, nothing stays the same anyway. And this is
you know, the play of what we see from history
that you know that there's all sorts of things that
you know happened to all of this, and and you
know we're all evolving, and who knows what any of
us is going to look like one hundred thousand years

(29:09):
from now. But one thing is really clear that that
white people, white European, though a very small minority of
the world's population, should not be demonized in a classroom
for all sorts of reasons. You don't demonize kids. You
don't demonize kids in particular for things that they didn't do.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
To do with My ancestors didn't have anything to do
with what they, like the empires.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Are doing, and you don't call them names like settler
and stuff. So I'm part Viking, Tom, and you know,
the Vikings have been coming to Canada for over a
thousand years, and then you have the Iroquois that come
over after the American War of Independence, and you know,
in the late late seventeen seventies, seventeen eighties, and and

(29:56):
and then and then again after the War of Each twelve,
like they were much more recent than my people. And
then you had the Soue that came over after the
battle Little Big Horn, and in seventeen seventy six and
seventy seven that winter under Sitting Bolt. These are the
first nations apparently, but they're here so far after people.

(30:18):
And you don't even know of these Barringian migrants. If
these Siberian migrants that we call indigenous people today because
they had to come from somewhere.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
From southeast, did you know that they found European carving
tools that predate those tribes in Northwes.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
That's right, And that's a theory called there's solutary and hypothesis,
and there's there's many that suggest that we just don't
know well enough what happened ten thousand years ago or
thirteen thousand years ago. And possibly some people were saying,
I mean, it might be a bit dubious, but it
could be as much as thirty to thirty five thousand

(30:53):
years ago that there were humans here. We have no idea.
All we know is the early humans and they have
different names for them. But if the whatever you want
to call the first people that came over here, they
were not They're not the people that were there who
were here sorry a thousand years later, because there were

(31:16):
just successive waves of people. That's what humans do. We're nomadic.
We go where there's food, we go where we can
survive and or where there's things that we can take.
And that's human history. So we really they.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Knows who were doing that too, though, Like a lot
of like eighty percent of the tribes were nomadically like
just going across the land and they would actually like
burn down massive parts of the forest to like get
animals out and stuff. They would do things that like
it is very weird because there's people in America that
point this out. There's some pretty good documentaries on YouTube
that are trying to expose this stuff of like this

(31:50):
idea that they were like the Pocahontas story where she's
talking to birds and they named everything in the wilderness,
that's not what was going on. Like there is tribes
that were taking other tribes children and then like slaughtering that.
There's a lot of negative history. Every people on earth
have been involved in warfare and death and disease, and
it's fine that they try to ignore all those other

(32:11):
people but then focus strictly on white people when I
always point to this where a lot of like, you know,
black people bring up slavery and stuff, right, but the
word slave comes from Slavic when white people were enslaved
by the Ottoman Empire. Yet we don't get reparations for
things that happened hundreds of years ago. And it's just
very weird how they try to paint essentially white people
as only the villain. And I see this. You know,

(32:34):
you have a lot of people from India coming here
now that I believe are importing their culture and eroding ours.
And then they like to scream this whole thing about
stolen land as if it's justification for them coming in here.
And they use this all the time, right, and it's
like they're doing it in oh, well, the British Empire
did this to us, so we're going to invade Britain

(32:55):
through their government's failed policies. Meanwhile, they forget to mention
that the British Empire helped old half of India. So
it's like without some of these this history, yes, it
was bloody they would not have half of the comforts
that they do well.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
But that's that's an interesting thing. You just comforts right now.
So with these residential schools, the whole the idea is
to give them the skills to be able to make
it with English language. Oh, by the ways, you know,
I've been looking for years. I've never seen a really
sad looking a kid at a photo in a residential school.

(33:30):
So anyhow, all the comforts and then you get academics.
People are getting paid a lot of money to teach
young people in university saying the dumbest things imaginable, like
we need to decolonize. Tell me about decolonizement, you know,
and a lot of indigenous groups, you know, if there
was no food, there are stories of cannibalism of the young, canialism,

(33:54):
particularly the orphaned cannibalism of people from other tribes taken
in wark. Cannibalism of older people are certainly the extermination
older people because they're you know, they're competing for the
same food. It was pretty awful not to have the
conveniences that we have today. And this idea that we
go back in time and that's where you're going to

(34:16):
find it. No, and then maybe if.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
You took all the infrastructure, we just take everything. That's
why I've done videos about this. I've went viral talking
about Canadian history and I said, like, if this is
still on land, you want your land back, then we'll
take all of the infrastructure. And the trillion it's at
this point's like two trillion dollars that's been head over
in two indigenous communities. And I was gonna say this earlier.
It's funny because you see, like they even twenty twenty four,

(34:40):
they gave them thirty point five billion dollars. So if
you look at the the living standard on the reserves,
which I kind of call Ethno states because they are
ethno states within Canada where you only can be Native
to live there and you get no taxes, free education.
But if you look at the living standard, it stays
the exact same. Well, this spike of how much money

(35:01):
they've been given, and I like to bring this point
up all the time. The chiefs are stealing the money
the exact same way that politicians are stealing from us.
And there's people like near like the Six Nations Reserve
in Brantford and Kenny Hilly is now dead. He took
a lot of money and built a lot of big
houses and didn't really hand it to his people.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
No, when you know the figures even are that they
banning about or you know, the FEDS give approximately thirty
two to three or three billion a year, but that's
only to two of their departments. They're giving altars advantages
Indigenous people and such as not paying taxes, such as
you know, free health care and university tuition and so forth.

(35:41):
And then there you've got the provincial of the unicipal governments.
I think a fair in number would be forty billion
a year go toward one small race in Canada and
some years more because I, oh, they went to day
school in Canada. Oh, we have to give them altered
some money for that. Imagine that I'm going to go
to day school.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Distributing to our society in any way. And a lot
of like it's not to demonize any of the people,
because I grew up with Native friends and stuff like that,
but a lot of them were on drugs, a lot
of them were plagued by this thing of like cultural
guilt almost And I knew of people that you know,
maybe got they got hit by a Native drunk driving.
He gets like two years and let go because he's

(36:21):
the victim somehow, Right, So you see this and even
I had there's a guy named Adrian the Realist, that's
what he goes by. But he's a Native fellow who
brings up this stuff and actually talks about the abuse
that happens on the reserves and how they don't want
to talk about it, how they're trying to like pretend
it's not happening. And then they live like in this
like victim mentality, this victimhood their entire lives and think

(36:44):
they should be given everything. But then you're not really,
you're not contributing to like the nation the you're not
really you're just there sitting on wealth from from victimhood essentially.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, and you know what ordinary people go, oh, well,
it doesn't really affect me one day Canada. I'd never
imagine that we have a government that's getting ready to
table a deficit in one year of one hundred billion dollars,
and that is, you know, that's what the rumor is.
What you know is being overspent by the current liberals.

(37:17):
So if people think that we can continue to be
a welfare system from cradle to grave for every Indigenous
person and give whatever it is forty to forty five
thousand dollars a year, including ones that already have millions
of dollars, because that like bands in Vancouver where they're
sitting on incredible real estate and everyone's going, oh, give

(37:40):
it back so they can live as they did in
the past. What they're doing. The Ben it's you know
one Ben. It's coast where I live. It is called
the Twassen And they were given a lot of farm
land about twenty years ago and they've just completely paved
it over and they're just just just taking tons of
money from wal Mart and Amazon and all sorts of

(38:01):
huge companies that have that have moved operations onto reserve
land because they get a better deal there. And again,
the native people aren't paying taxes, so they're just raking
it in and and and we're supposed to tell again
school kids, because that's who I am. I'm I'm I
have the perspective of being a teacher, you know, and

(38:23):
when you're a teacher, what you want to do with kids?
If you know, if if math tells you that two
plus two is four, if chemistry tells you, or or
maybe better physics tells you that if you drop an apple,
it's going to go down and bump, you know, hit
somebody in the head. They're not going to go up
in the air. These are evident truths. That's the same

(38:43):
as in history. If you are if you're talking about anything,
you want to you want to you want to work
with facts. You want to work with things that are
going to help the kids go forward. You don't want
to tell kids how cows a horse and a horse
is a cow and have them stumble through life looking
like idiots. So why would you go telling people that

(39:06):
the way to live isn't Western Christian, modern capitalistic with
Enlightenment values, with you know, constitutions and and and case
law and all the things that represent candidate No, no,
let's wipe it away and let's go back and have
a tribal councilor as they used to do, and then

(39:27):
sit and watch, you know, somebody taking from enemy tribe
being you know, viscerated, you know, and eaten. Like it's
just the most incredible thing that that you can find
a better world by going back in time. You might
find things in the past that we can learn from,
which is why history is that you know, in many
ways a clean discipline. But what we can't do is

(39:49):
is lie of Indigenous people that they that they are
problems with fetal alcoholism, was suicide with with you know,
drugs like the drug that killed my nephew. You can't
You're not helping anybody by saying you have all these problems,
but it's all our fault. Don't do anything. Just turn

(40:10):
the TV on and you know, get yourself a drink
and and don't worry about it. We're the problem here
and we're going to do just give you more and
more money. Go, you know, go, give you more trucks
and betever drive around and we're going to do all
this for you. But it's not going to help them.

(40:31):
It's not going to help them because if there are
children in those homes that are being abused at ten
times a national rate, then you need to if you
have any decencies a human being, you need to help
those kids and those reserves. You don't help them by
turning their head to the past and say, oh, look
at the past, Look you lost you had moral land.

(40:51):
The reality is, how do you know they had any
land in the past. How do you know any of
this stuff, like it's just so absurd.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Border. They didn't have settlements, like most of the Indigenous
were just walking across the land. They even have horses
until spaniards show up. So like even with the Truth
and Reconciliation Commission, they held it as like gospel. But
even the testimonies, they're these recorded allegations off in decades old.
They didn't have no corroboration, and they try to put
these through culture. But like there's thousands of testimonies though

(41:21):
from the Indigenous alumni who gained skills, learn trades and
look back on their education actually positively, but their voices
are often silenced. And we see this too, and it
is like and this is I don't know when I
started studying communism when I was like, wow, this is
exactly what they're trying to do to Canada. And instead
of everyone focusing our attention on the thieves in Ottawa,

(41:44):
where you know, there's drug epidemics everywhere, children are dying,
they're not classifying fentanyl as a chemical weapon, so then
the military could step in and get rid of all
of these these drug dens and stuff like that. They're like, oh, well,
we need to build more housing for homeless people for
or like immigrants. Right, we're housing all these people and
hotels and stuff our tax money's paying for. It's not

(42:04):
the government's money. And then our people are on the
streets dying. And I've seen a lot of foreign people
make fun of the fact that white people are dying
on drugs, and it's because our system has kicked all
of us down and demonized us. And people are you know,
there they don't even know their identity. If you don't
know who you are, it's pretty easy to destroy you.
And they just want to throw more money at it

(42:24):
that we can't afford. But they're not going after the problem.
Like the biggest drug bust of you know, it was
owned by the Chinese and controlled by Punjabis, and there's
no justice and nohing's done, and yet more and more
people die. And it's interesting because when we see this
with the you know, residential schools, well, especially like on
the reserves. Now, it's just like I look close to

(42:46):
what I've driven through there. It's not as much money
as they just throw on them. It doesn't look great.
They're not building anything. And I do believe because it's
some of this victim mentality of like, you know, this
is all white people's fault, and and a lot of
I find that the native population, like the indigenous and
these different tribes, like they don't even mostly don't even

(43:07):
identify with Canada. But when we bring up this thing
of like, oh, there's too many immigrants. You know, Canada
should incentivize their own people to have children, but yet
we're throwing billions dollars at bringing foreign workers here and
give them subsidy wages, no money for actual Canadians, no
incentivization for us to have kids. But then these people
repeat these lines of stolen land. This is native land,

(43:29):
but there was different tribes. Canada didn't exist, a Canadian
did not exist until white Europeans built this nation, right,
And then you have like all of these groups they
identify with, Oh, they were part of the Heuron tribe,
that's mostly how they identify, and they were mostly nomadic.
But if you see their standard of living, it's it's
not as if they're building anything or creating anything. It

(43:50):
just very much seems like they're living in this victimhood mentality.
And I personally know someone his girlfriend had kids with
a Native guy, and his kids were given thirty grand
each or something ridiculous like, and he's like I saw it,
Like it's so just just because of their native they
were given like all of thousands of dollars just for

(44:13):
essentially existing in a time that's peddling like this guilt
trip agenda while the government keeps stealing everything and nobody's like,
there's like, give us more of your stolen money from
the actual people who work hard, right.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
And with the we're coming back to the mass graves
things here, So this is they gave me. So I myself,
I don't believe that we have to even look at
aside of our country. Obviously a lot of these you know,
stupid ideas are coming to us from from you know,
places like the United Nations. But but I'm not blaming

(44:46):
anybody of people in Canada. We're electing people who are
not helping anybody. And I'll say two things. One is
that they're not indigenous people. So right now they're on
this idea, they're missing and murdered and you know, disappeared,
and they can meet Murray Sinclair gets an Order of
Canada for saying it could be as many a twenty
five thousand, and of course they don't have. They's not

(45:08):
a single missing kid. Nobody took better records than the
Christians who ran these schools. But then on the other hand,
you can be indigenous and say, oh, my people lived
here for ten thousand years, okay, here have all this land,
and so people being rewarded for, as one comedian said,
for keeping bad records. So just with the in the

(45:31):
the indigenous people, they're saying to them, you know, they're saying, oh,
there's terrible how you were treated in Awe and look
there must be because it was one, you know, white
woman who said, oh, there are two hundred and fifteen
children buried here in Canlas. It was a white woman
named Sarah Bolium. And who's teachers as that. You know,
she's a professor at the university. And everybody sort of

(45:54):
falls along and goes yes. But the fascinating thing about
it is they get lots of money. They're not digging,
but they use the money for healing center and some
of the things, but largely for a healing center and
from counselors. So what they're doing is the big industry
in Canada. And it's not just indigenous people. It's for lawyers.

(46:16):
Oh my gosh, how many law firms have a hand
in this. How many others you know do business with
these you know, all of a sudden suddenly stinking rich bands,
because that's the case in many places. And so there's
a lot of people in this reconciliation industry, and what
they're doing in the Native people is they're saying, oh,

(46:36):
you suffered so much trauma, it was so terrible, and
everyone's fro while there's an indigenous person's honors to go. Actually,
I already remember back in time my great grandmother saying
we were starving and we never knew how we've lived
at the end of the day because of wild animals.
There's some enemy, you know, it might be sneaking up
at nighttime. So but we're told that, oh no, everything
bad was because there's somebody else. So what we need

(46:57):
to do is we need to acknowledge that trauma forever
and ever, and then we need to have healing centers,
and then we need to course find more grades or
more of this or that that was done wrong. Oh
my gosh, you know the sixties scoop that they're white
people that adopted neglected Native kids. Can you think of
anything worse? Tom Than actually helping kids who didn't have

(47:19):
parents that were providing the necessities of life. Can you
what terrible white European people. So they keep on finding
all these reasons to traumatize the Indigenous people, and then
they say, here, build more healing centers because that's your role.
Have trauma heal, Have trauma heal, and you're going to
be spinning forever like you're not gonna You're not going

(47:40):
to solve any of the prose of their community. You're
going to be just as far behind by doing that.
And then of course the people in this industry who
are not Indigenous are because everybody else is being such
a useful idiot. They're they're you know, they're making good
money from it. And the second thing you'd like to
say is about white people. If you are seeing the
extra there, if you're white people in Canada or non

(48:02):
Indigenous generally, and you think it's a good idea to
give race based preferences, then I would like to meet
you someday and try to understand how you think it's
a good idea to build a society where you don't
treat people equally and you do it on the basis
of imagine ancestry because in many cases, oh, you know,

(48:25):
we're not going to ask what you're We'll just assume,
you know, we'll just take you know, if you tell
us your indigenous, you're indigenous. And now you're getting people
who are you know, from India, you know, status cards
and and and the one you know Indian family from
India whose daughter's got so much money to go to
university because they you know, they just played being into it,

(48:48):
and and so like, I mean, it's just you start
doing that, everybody is going to be marrying or finding
a way to lie about being indigenous to be part
of their spoils. It's just going to be come the
biggest scam ever one could ever imagine. The best thing
to do is just go stop. Say to all the
activist judges, say to all the virtue signaling politicians, say

(49:12):
to all these you know, good goodie tissues, aren't goodie
good you present present themselves that way in schools and
so on the university say to them, enough, a Canadian
is the Canadian is the Canadian. Don't demonize any group.
Everybody should have equal rights and equal opportunity in school.
And if some groups end up doing better than others,

(49:34):
and then maybe the other groups have to model themselves
after those groups. But don't play with this game like
the Russians did. They went, oh, you've got rich farmers.
You know, they might have been Jewish, they might have
been called cool Acts, they might have been German, whatever
whoever they were. And they said, all these people were
a bad we'll kick them out or we'll kill them
or whatever, and and and we'll give all the land

(49:57):
to the poor farmers. And then all of a sudden,
you don't have much food. And this is what we're
doing in Canaday. You're taking wealth from the people who
produce it, and you're giving it to the people who
produce the least.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
That's communism. It's about tearing people down to so everyone
is equally poor. And one thing like that I like
to point I don't like. I like just the sentiments
on like I don't. I don't think that people can
show up here and just become Canadian. That's something that
like is kind of been used against us, that like
a piece of paper can connect you to the land

(50:33):
and the heritage of this land. And if we don't
know who we are, if anyone from anywhere can be anything.
As Pierre Paulief said, then it's not like it means
nothing that I can't go to China and become Chinese.
Like that's that's something that I push back against a
lot because like the Canadian people, the identity of Canadian
people are white people. Yes, there's other groups that assimilated

(50:53):
and came in, but they're not Canadian in the same
way like an African American. It's because they're not American,
and they're African American, right, And that's what a lot
of people and this is being used against us. There's
a lot of people that are being like, well, I'm
a Canadian because I have a passport. You guys are
on stolen land. You guys aren't even the real Canadians.
And I've brought this up on videos that went viral

(51:14):
and stuff of like there wasn't there wasn't a Canadian,
there was no such thing as a Canadian. And I'm
actually like, I was gonna do a video recently, but like,
if you listen to google stereotypical Canadian, you'll see a
white guy in plaid, right. And it's because like stereotypes
do matter. Stereotypes in some regard are negative, but there's
other ones that are essentially it's just pattern recognition. That's

(51:35):
the same idea with like how people get labels as racist.
The word racist got coined by Leon Trotsky. He like
at least popularized it during the Bolshevik Revolution and to
defail essentially attack white people, to browbeat people that are
against the communist agenda. Right, But realistically, the idea of
racism and racist is pattern recognition. Not everyone, but oh

(51:59):
the majority of the these groups of people act like this,
and it's it's clear, like we we see that multiculturalism
when it came to Canada as being a multicultural European
melting pot is one thing because people can we all
share somewhat of the same ancestry at least the same
way of life. Right. A lot of them came from

(52:19):
Christian nations. You had the French, English, Irish and Scottish
who developed this nation, especially the English and French, and
then other like the Hungarians and Polish people and Italians
came here and helped build Toronto. But all those people
kind of molded into one and it was a positive multiculturalism,
and it was multic culturalism of white people and natives, right,

(52:40):
Canada was ninety seven percent white until like literally the seventies.
But when you bring in other people into this so
called melting pot that was coined by Israel zangwill you
actually erodes it? Because now we have enclaves of ethnic
groups like Brampton, which I'm a couple hours away from.
It's just like the and they've taken over cities, building
their own staff choose. And part of this I don't

(53:02):
understand where people are like, you know, this is Native land.
Let's tear down statues of Sir John A. MacDonald, But
we're gonna build a giant monkey statue for Hindus. We're
gonna build a Shiva statue on this supposable like supposed
to be Native land. It just doesn't make sense. And this,
this this idea of multiculturalism and a Canadian can be anyone.

(53:25):
I think it's kind of destroyed Canadian culture.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Yeah, but it's very much a ship that sailed, you know,
whether it was whatever one's argument is. You know, if
I go into you know, I'm live in the Greater
Vancouver area. As a teacher, I had many classes in
the last couple of decades where there wasn't a single
white child, white European child.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
I'm not concerning you, though, well, you know, to be
honest with you, do you think Canadians should be like
like strangers in the homelands? Yeah? Yeah, But I.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
Don't know. All I can say is that I don't
I don't see. I don't see that. I see something else.
I what I see is is values. I see that
the things that that I like in Canada don't have
a color to them. I I I like Mexican food,

(54:20):
I like playing I used to like playing pickup basketball
and soccer with kids from the punch Up. I used
to like having arguments or discussions with girls from me Iran,
you know, very positive discussions, I should say, and I mean,
I I find there's richness from all over the world.

(54:40):
So that's not what I'm about.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
It was built on though Canada only became like that
in the last twenty years. Essentially.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Sure, sure, but and and but what what I what
I want to represent this is me as it was
a teacher. What I want to represent is this is
that in schools you have white kids, light skin, kids
of power sitting in a classroom today in twenty twenty five,

(55:11):
who are made to feel badly some places on a
regular basis because of something they can't control. I agree,
and so so that's what I'm representing. I'm not, I'm not.
I mean, I didn't come under your show to to
to you know, I can't unravel history. You know, history

(55:35):
is here. Canada is multicultural. The vast you know, most classes,
particularly in the big cities, are you know, a small
minority white, and some not at all. So whether that's
good or bad is indifferent to me. What I what
I am charged to do as a teacher, tom is

(55:56):
to is to make sure there's no no kid discriminate
against on the basis something he or she can't do
anything about that. That's the argument that I agree.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
I grew up with like I had black friends, Native friends,
Asian friends. But the thing that I have noticed, right,
and that's why I kind of bring this up, is
Canadians have lost their identity. A lot of people don't
even know, can't define what a Canadian is. And I
believe it comes from the French, English, Irish and Scottish.
Those people blended together, we developed new accents, we had

(56:28):
our own culture, and I do think that Yeah, if
if if in fifty years they that white people in Canada,
especially those descendant of settlers, become the minority. It's not
Canada anymore. If if we import all of India and
Africa and everywhere else Asia, all these countries, it's not
going to be Canada. It is essentially going to be

(56:49):
the whole New World, or the globalist idea that they've
always wanted to do is blend everybody into the one thing.
And yes, when it was slow and people integrated, was
one thing because they apted to Canadian values and what
our culture was. Now there's people showing up here that
claim we don't even have culture. White people don't have culture,
even though they live inside of our culture.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Yeah, but but I blame white people for that because
the people that fired me are we're white people, and
the people are still fighting me to keep out some
more white people. And they're white people who are self
flagity and saying how bad other white people are and
work and and so No, I'm not. I don't. I

(57:31):
don't think decency or virtue comes with skin color. I
think I think I think what is good about Canada,
and I lived in different parts of the world and
I and so I can say with some authority that Canada,
you know, relevant to other places, is a great place
to live. And but we're making a mistake. I'm with you, man,

(57:53):
we're making a mistake with you have mass immigration and
you have people coming in at a time when you've
got all these lunatic, woke liberals, leftists, I don't know
what you know, people suicidal empathy, uh, for people who
are going to completely take more of the best example
for me is bringing in piles of Muslims, like as

(58:14):
though that's going to work out well, not because Muslims
can't be good people, but because they're they're they're they're
upholding values, values that are just so inconsistent with a
modern democracy. If you if you believe in in Muhammed,
and you believe that, you then g had and you

(58:36):
have a right to to take women who are not
Muslim and use them as sex slaves. If you believe
that kind of stuff, there's no place for you in
my view in Canada. So I get what you're saying,
you should only bring into Canada people who can adapt
to the values and the values that we have that

(58:56):
make Canada great. But in my own family talk, I
can't say that man, and even if I believe it,
I don't believe it because in my own family there
are and I mean a bigger family, and we have
a big family picnic. My mom's side of the family,
there's a huge picnic and it's called the the Grant family. Anyhow,

(59:16):
that's it. And so there are Jews, and there are Muslims,
and there's Sikhs, and they're Hindus and and and and
they're Jamaicans and there in the family and partners the
part they were missionary families, so they were, you know,
in my mom's side of the family, her both her
mom and her father went through Trinidad. If you can,

(59:39):
it's a fascinating story. And the air missionaries in Trinidad,
so obviously they were marrying into African families over time.
I mean, there's there's just the whole world is in
my family. And so I can undo that if I
wanted to, But I don't know why. What all I'm
asking for? This is my plea and this is a
tea sure And as a person, don't give up on

(01:00:04):
the Canada that we knew, because it was better. The
Canada that we knew did not treat women a second
class The Canada that we knew did not put someone
like Tamara Leach and jail a woman who stood up
against a government that was, you know, completely out of
control with his COVID restrictions. The Canada that we used

(01:00:26):
to know did not fire teachers like me for telling
kids the truth and being honest with kids. The Canada
to not try and tell kids they are on the
wrong body and so and what is your sexuality? As
I said at the beginning, you know little Tommy, little Sally. So,
so I'm with you. Canada isn't is worth protecting. I

(01:00:48):
don't know how easy it's going to be to protect
fifty to keep it fifty years from now. And you
can't do it by bringing in a million people or
a million half people every year because because particularly the
politicians are going to like like you know, they're going
to prostate them, you know, by prostate and prostitute themselves
too for those votes. Right, So you can have you

(01:01:10):
can have a million Muslims come in tomorrow and the
politicians of all levels of government are going to be
all the school is everyone's going to be going because
that's where they're that's where they're going to get their power.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Look at look at Pierre per turban like that's what
they're like. The fact that both sides, I'm I would
classify myself as an actual conservative, which is conservating your
national identity, your heritage, your people. And none of the
politicians are doing this. I think they're all controlled by
the same people. Mark Karney is wearing a turban, Pierre

(01:01:44):
is wearing a turban. They're speaking in foreign languages. Now
that ship should be allowed. You shouldn't be wearing a
turban in the r C m P. You shouldn't be
be wearing a helmet on a motorcycle. The idea now
is that there is not like people are integrating into Canada.
They're forcing us to bow and assimilate to these people's
cultures who have subcontinents with literally billions of them, and

(01:02:08):
they shouldn't even be brought into this nation. At this point,
I believe that there should be an end to immigration
for twenty years. They're not going to do that because
in my point of view and the things that I've studied,
they're essentially trying to erase white people, especially here in Canada.
Across the world. They want to get rid of us.
There's document the un replacement. Migration is a very real thing.

(01:02:29):
Pierre Elliott Trudeau signed on to the Immigration Act after
they changed the flag from what showed our heritage, the
red end sign, which I believe is the true Canating
flag because it shows the founding stock of people that
built the nation. The soldiers died under it. And yes,
if people came in and they integrated, it was good.
And I've had friends of all walks of life. But
now because I see essentially what I remember in the nineties,

(01:02:52):
and the country that I remember is essentially gone. And
there's a lot of people making the point that will
never come out of this without violence and without uh,
without fighting in a And I'm not saying I'm promoting violence,
but I'm saying there's no way to vote out of
this because like they've imported so many people, we will
never win again. Uh, Conservatives will never win. Pierre will
never win. It's never gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Yes, but it's not. But but I I don't think
again an is is skin color because because all of
my friend group and my family and my neighbors, the
majority of them, the majority of again without any doubt,
voted liberal, voted liberal and the last few elections voted for.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
You know, white people are the big problem. They've been conditioned.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
So this idea that that goodness is going to come
only from my but I think what this is my view.
What what what we need to do is we need
to say this is a classroom or this is a country.
And if you want to Charles Joyce said, what good
is a classroom? Or he said a house. You don't

(01:03:57):
know how to live in them. What good is my
classroom or my country? We don't know how to live
in it. And if people are coming in this country
and they're going to and they're going to you know,
get the benefits of being in Canada, then they have
to adapt themselves to the things that we have consentially
established as right, meaning that boys and girls, the meaning

(01:04:18):
the police officers don't wear turbines. I agree with you
on that one. And and that the boys don't sit
in front of girls at a mosque or a religious institution,
that the that the that we one of the fundamental
values of our country is that we don't discriminate against
people on the basis of their sexual organs or you know,

(01:04:39):
so we don't do that in Canada. We're losing that.
That to me is the battle. Tom. I can't I
just can't believe for a second. Well, you got again
the majority of white Bill Voe where people like Carnie
and Trudeau.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
That's because the condition rates.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
And then then actually the people that want to save
the country you mentioned it, really the people that I
meet who want to keep Canada where it's fair and
you're not giving it away to indigenous people who are
going to do what with it. Nothing, They're just going
to rent it out and who knows to the Chinese communists,

(01:05:13):
who knows they're going to rent it out to and
and they're and they're not going to do anything to
build it. So so what what I find is where
I actually have more success, and I've run in recent
elections federally, provincially, municipally, I actually have more more success
with people who are who are of color in believing

(01:05:35):
in Canada. So to me, it's it's it's much deeper.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
It's white people have suicidal empathy, but that's conditioning they've
been They've brainwashed white people from living.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
But it's not going to change. But but Tom, you're
not going to change. It's it's it's that ship has
sailed man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
The national unity is forming. There's a lot of nationalist
groups popping up.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
That But I don't want to be part of a
group that doesn't represent my values. And my values aligned
with my my Asian friends, and my my my East
Indian friends, and my black friends and my including indigenous friends.
My thinking aligns with anybody who believes in the fundamental

(01:06:18):
building blocks of this country. You work hard, you contribute,
you'd be nice to your neighbor.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
But do you that they're becoming tribalistic like Muslims?

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
But I don't want white people to be tribalistic, but
we have.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
We might not survive, we literally white people.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
But white people are being tribalistic. They'll kill me too,
because I live that. I know what white tribalism is,
because both of us Tom are from Ireland, and you
don't have to go back even decades before you find
people white people killing each other on the basis of
some stupid Oh I'm Catholic and I'm Protestant. So so

(01:06:59):
my point is tribalism is wrong, and that's the whole
thing is so again on our screen here we've got
mass graves hoax and you've invited me on, and I'm
and nobody except for one thing. I've got a falling
that's growing as you are starting to know about me,
because I've got something got a backbone. I'm going to

(01:07:20):
stand up to anybody who tells me that Indian residential
schools were terrible or genocidal. I'm going to say, you
don't know what you're talking about. The educated people, and
thank goodness, and the people who worked in them should
be given medals and not be thought of as murders.
But what I am is this, I'm believing that you

(01:07:41):
need to You need to get rid of the things
that are bringing our country down. You can't put a
ton of debt onto future generations as we're doing. You
can't separate people on the base of race, religion, whatever
you can't give. You can't say a group of people
like the Indigenous should own everybody else's rents off them.

(01:08:01):
You can't you can't take some like Tamarily who's part Indigenous.
You can't take someone like and put her in jail
when when when she was standing up that she she's
the Laura Sea quarter of her date, She's the the
the the young Canadian female. Because she's still young in
my votes, who stood up against all sorts of a

(01:08:24):
mob of of evil people to do something good for
this country. That's what I want.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
That that's what I want and not meaning to like,
I'm just like giving you my thoughts about like essentially
the way I view things, and like the thing is
everybody it is tribalism is good and bad. But like
my thing is like if if white people in Britain say,
don't become tribalistic, there will be no Britain anymore, it
won't exist. And the thing is, if if everyone else

(01:08:53):
is allowed to be tribalistic and building communities within an
enclaves and our nations that our ancestors built, then why
are we not allowed to do it? They will they're
creating a Punjabi only healthcare facility. But if white people
did it, whites only, you can't come in your lecture,
we would be demonized. They would scream from the high heavens.
It would be called all sorts of things, and we
would probably go to jail for it, for standing up

(01:09:15):
for ourselves. My problem is that that white people aren't
allowed to stand up for themselves, and that we're told
that we need to house everybody else in spite, in
despite of our own culture. So if my house has
seven people in it and it is it running pretty well? Yeah,
and then I let seven other people from some other
place into my home, that will my house still function properly?

(01:09:36):
Probably not. So it's like there's indiscrepancies and things that
must change or Canada will be carved out and they
will be like a an Indian only place and it
blacks only, and it will it's starting to happen right now.
They're trying to charge white people absolutely time.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
I absolutely agreement, and and I think a lot of
Canadians are are feeling that there that you're we're losing
our unity, We're losing our sense of what it's like
to be a Canadian from coast to coast. We're losing
our charity, We're we're losing a sense of who we are.
You can't you can't take away a common past. You
can't defame the dead in Canada and then bring in

(01:10:18):
and rename streets after you know some person you know
in Africa, Like it makes no sense. I'm with you,
and and so just an ending here because I know
I see time is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
We can go on a little further, if you still want,
I would like to.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
I'm a little bit short on time, and what I
love to do is to say this to you is
again pulling it back to me, the whether people like
it or not, the kids that I teach in schools,
and I'm and I'm still doing some stuff with young people.
I mean, I can't. I'm blocked from schools on this

(01:10:58):
monster because I telling kids that true, and and that
the adults are like all pied pipers. They're just leading
children away from their parents and they're going to end up,
you know, leading them into the really awful places. We're
seeing that and and so what I want to do
for my students, whatever stripe they are, whatever tribe they are,

(01:11:18):
whatever their identity is, and I don't think you can
ever say any one tribe speaks for everybody. And I
know that my own family. I can sit at the
dinner table with my three kids, who I've known their
whole lives and we don't agree on much. So my
point is, and they're leaving their they're living their lives
somewhat differently from each other as well. But my point

(01:11:40):
is left Canada, the Canada my father knew and again
a guy who rose pretty high order of Canada brought
Patriot of the constitution. He sat there, true on others,
and with two others, Kretschia and Romano, found a solution
to get nine of the ten provinces to agree to

(01:12:01):
this the Constitution of nineteen eighty two. You know, if
he were here, you know, the past couple of years ago,
but if he were here listening to me, he'd be
proud of me, because he said, that's it, Jim. The
candidate that we know is not based is based on individuals.
It's based on the tough men and the women, like
like Tom Thompson. You know, a group of seven artists

(01:12:22):
who by himself up in a Gonduin park and and
sketch and and and and and sketch things that made
us proud. There's this incredible virgin land. You know, it's
tough to live in, but it's it's incredibly beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
And there's water and it's and clean air and it's
it's just endless.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
These people are being demonized, now what what idiocy? And
we're going, oh, boys and girls, well, I see the
majority of my classes from India. Therefore, let's learn about
Indian history, and then going no, no, that's not good
for Canada. Not that we can't talk about Indian history
on occasion and talk about any country in the world,

(01:13:08):
but that you need to have things in common otherwise
we're going to fall apart in the country, not.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Touching our kids about Canada at all. If you ask
the average person what a Canadian is, they'll be like
a piece of paper. They don't know what it took
to build this place, right, They essentially created a country,
and it was what Europeans that did it one hundred
years to carve out a nation from wilderness that native
tribes were fighting over and stuff I've heard. If you're

(01:13:35):
long on time, we can kind of bring this to
a close. And I just want to give my sort
of thoughts because I'm very I'm very concerned right about
the future. I just I have a baby girl, she's
she's only a couple months old, and I don't want
her to become a persecuted minority in the country that
their ancestors built, especially essentially too, because like when I
started to find out that my family on my dad'si's
been here since the seventeen hundreds, and then when I

(01:13:57):
find out why my grandma's their bloodlines go back to
sixteen before and that stops. I don't know when she
came here. She could have came from Canada whatever are
America what it is now, but we traced her to
Canada sixteen oh four, and then before that she was
in what now is America and it stops. So my
family's been here for four hundred and twenty one years
and that's only what I know of. And it's like

(01:14:19):
people are telling me that I'm not Canadian because in
natives are, even though there was no Canada, right, So
I push back against a lot of this stuff because
without white people, there is no Canada, though, like they
have to admit that. And it's interesting because all these
people that come here that want to take advantage of
the systems that we built, the infrastructure, the subsidy wages,
all the benefits that immigrants are getting, my ancestors never got.

(01:14:43):
They carved a nation out of nothing and weren't handed
everything just to show up here and replace our population.
I think it's a replacement. I think that's what they're doing.
There's literally documentation that they're doing this, and that's my concern.
I don't want my kid to be persecuted minority.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
And then I shouldn't agree with you. Again, I don't
see color. I really don't, and I would never have
been given opportunities they do, and that's wrong. I agree
that they do. Oh my gosh, that's the that's the
woke dream, that's their fetish, that's their wet dream, this
idea of going, oh my gosh, we can have all
these people of this stripe and people of that stripe,

(01:15:18):
and and we'll get rid of people who look like me. Yay,
this is this is what we're after. It looks like
you tomp. That's not making a better Canada. But but
but the way I look at it again, I see it.
I don't. I'm not after, I'm not after. I'm not
representing anybody but myself, and I go into a classroom.
I want it. I want those kids to think that

(01:15:39):
every single one of them matters just as much to me.
And yet people and yet they need to have for
me to be happy with them in my country. I
would say to them that you have to buy into Canada,
and the Canada that I know has does Unlike Trudeau's comment,
famously and famous New Years ago. We don't you know,

(01:16:01):
we're post nationally. We don't have you know, and there's
nothing about Canada. We don't have any you know, common
values we do, and and and the one, the last
little thing, and I could just say that when they
had in Afghanistan there was a women's march, and one
thing we do in school a lot talk about, you
know about it was for women back in time in Canada.

(01:16:22):
And the reality is it was harder. My grandmother, my
mother couldn't wear long pants because she was a girl.
I couldn't wear jeans because anyhow. So it wasn't that
long ago that women didn't have the same rights as men.
And so we talk about that and we said, well,
you know, that's that's not right. And then and then
you read in the paper and Canada is losing soldiers
in Afghanistan to try and export some of our values,

(01:16:44):
and and the women there after a while get the
idea that, you know, oh boy, maybe we can make changes.
And they go and they have a one, the only
one in Kabul, the capital city. They go and have
a women's march, and the men start picking up rocks
and throwing the women, and the women disperse. Some of
them are hurt. And of course there's no more women's marches.

(01:17:06):
The Canada that I know, the Canada that I know
would be would be the men, regardless of religion, regardless
of anything, would pick up stones and throw them at
the men. They were throwing stones at those women that
you asked the beginning, what's a true Canadian? A true

(01:17:26):
Canadian is someone who is decent, someone who does what
is right for other human beings. I'm a Christian. You
know what a Christian means to me? Where anything else
is living well, it is living well. It's living in
a way that that you're looking out for not just yourself,
but for your fellow man. And and and our politicians
aren't doing that, Tom, and you know that, and I

(01:17:48):
know that they're they're no, they're doing terrible things. And
then the school system they're separating kids, and they're and
they're and they're judging kids badly because of skin power
or religion, and other kids they're giving all sorts of
things to who aren't deserving simply because they're associated with
this group or that group. You and the school system

(01:18:09):
should be operating on the values that have guided us
to this time. So that's my last comment, and I
just want to thank you again, Thomas. It's an honor
that social media people like you listen to me, because
mainstream media they don't give a damn that there is
a teacher fired for talking about there's no grace and

(01:18:30):
candlers are any other reserve. They want to lie to
people through their teeth, and so thank you for giving
me this opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Yeah, it's definitely part of an agenda. I think it's
definitely to give the un Land grabs and take over
you know, people's property and push us further towards communism,
you know, the Haltemore and the Bolshevik Revolution. But tell
everyone where to find you. I'll close it out once
you're gone. Maybe discuss some of the things I was
going to while you were here, but I know you

(01:18:58):
got time homes to tell people where they can find you,
how they can support you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
Well, thank you and again, incredibly grateful to Strange, Brude.

Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
To.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Mackenzie. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
I want to keep it Bob and Doug McKenzie, you know, man,
did I love those guys and and and so I
think it would be helpful for me obviously, but I
think for teachers and kids right across Canada, people who
supported me. So I have twenty three thousand followers on
x so a name again, you can see it on

(01:19:34):
the screen, and it's just really easy to go on
x and find somebody, or just google my name. You
can find it. I also wrote, you know, all sorts
of things in recent years, articles and stuff and a book.
You know, if people were to find my book at Amazon,
that would be great too.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
But name for the audio listeners and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
So, okay, my name is so is Jim as it
sounds in. My last name is McMurtry mc and you
are try and my books called The Scarlet Lesson. But again,
people who just were to google Jimmy murcry, you'll find
there's a lot to mere. But Jimmy mertry, teacher. There's
a lot out there right now. And because this thing
about my story isn't so interesting anymore that I was

(01:20:16):
the first that said therese grades don't exist, There wasn't murder,
it's I said those. I was first, and I was
the first punished for that, I mean the first saying
it publicly. But that doesn't matter anymore because there's so
many other people people smarter than I am people more,
you know, percidious are saying it. What matters about me
now is that teacher, that obscure teacher who did that

(01:20:41):
four and a half years ago. Everyone beat on the
head and said, oh you horrible, horrible person. Took away
my salary, took away my job, took away absolutely everything,
called me all these things. You know, I'm a pervert,
I was a racist. I was everything imaginable. And you
know what I'm still standing. I'm still standing. And all
you can say to all my adversaries is you know

(01:21:04):
I'm right. You knew that four and a half years ago,
and I'm going to continue to you know I'm right
and absolutely everything I said. And I want to wait
until you start being admitting it. And you know what
they're doing about the mask graves, these clowns that run
the circus called Canada. They're saying, oh, no, we didn't
say mask grave. We said, oh suspected probable anomalies. You

(01:21:28):
did not. You said mask grave two hundred and fifty,
You said twenty five thousand disappeared kids graves across county.
You said there was genocide. You voted on it. All
the members, all the parties in Canada unanimously. You're a
bunch of liars political class in Canada. I'm not a liar.
I'm just a nobody teacher, but I'm not a liar.

(01:21:50):
Don't tell me that Canada's past was full of blood
and agony to our indigenous people. We did more for
indigenous people than any country in the world. It's true.
So not for the nonsense. Following me, and you're gonna
get the truth as opposed to the crop that you're
going to listen to on CBC or reading the Globe
and Mail or the Toronto Start.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Thank you, man, Yeah, thank you. You can sign out now
and I'll cover it. Thank you again. Thank you for
joining us. Man. I appreciate my honor.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Thanks buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Everybody, everybody go, uh go follow Jim, go follow his stuff.
Pretty interesting conversation, you know, I just wanted to close this,
close it out with some of the stuff that I
was going to talk about anyway. But you know, at
the end of the day, right, Uh, they weren't they
weren't perfect. There was probably abuse in the residential schools,

(01:22:39):
just as there was orphanages and institutions. But the narrative
seek killing and genocide simply doesn't hold up the scrutiny.
And uh, you know, it's interesting because there is a
lot of stuff that people don't want to talk about,
they don't want to mention. And I, you know, I
h I value what Jim was saying, Like I understand,
you know, well can you used to be like in

(01:23:00):
the nineties and stuff like that. But like my whole
thing is like, if we import everybody else's culture, will
it be it? Will it still be Canada? And no,
it will not. It's it's not it's not gonna happen.
And uh, yeah, people should if they come here should
uh should assimilate, And like bad things did happen in
the past in some regard, but like the nation Canada

(01:23:23):
was formed on the bloodshed of white Europeans and Natives
who fought together and fought each other. That's a fact.
Like every other nation on earth was created in the
same way. So while Canada's media obsession over allegations and
these alleged crimes and residential schools, uh, they'll never tell

(01:23:46):
you about the very real, very well documented atrocities committed
by some indigenous groups against settlers and rival tribes. So
I wanted to bring this up with the fact that
you want to pain us all as villains, well, you
should understand that the frontier reality. You know, if people
that risked their lives coming across across an ocean, you know,
to like build something new out of yes land that

(01:24:09):
nomadic tribes were traveling on, that's a fact. You know,
there was no unified nation. In the sixteen and seventeen
hundreds French Jesuit missionaries recorded horrific accounts in the Jesuit Relations.
These are not myths, these are first hand written reports.
Captured settlers and rival warriors were tied to stakes, burned

(01:24:30):
alive for hours, their fingers and ears sliced off piece
by peace while they were still conscious. This is some
of the barbaric acts that natives would do to each
other and to the settlers. Hot coals and burning resin
were poured into open wounds as torture. Victims were forced
to run gauntlets lined with knives and clubs and beaten

(01:24:54):
to the brink of death. And of course there was
you know, Europeans did this to each other at some point.
To ignore this history is ridiculous, and to ignore this
history is to right out lie and paint people as
victims and villains. That's what cultural Marxism does, is pit
people against each other. Scalping wasn't brought by Europeans. This

(01:25:15):
is actually a lie. A lot of people liked to
be like the Europeans were the ones scalping people. Certain
tribes scalped their enemies as trophies long before content. Certain
tribes scalped their enemies as trophies long before contact. Eighteenth
century colonial records show settlers scalps taken and hung in villages.
During the French and Indian Wars, the entire frontier families

(01:25:38):
were found butchered and scalped. So and this is in
nineteen seven nine. In seventeen oh four deer Field raid
in Massachusetts, people had how to pronounce that, but alleged
dative forces storm these settlements. Forty eight settlers were killed outright,
including children. More than one hundred were taken as captives,
and many marched through winters, beaten, raped and killed along

(01:26:00):
the way. I didn't stop there. In Canadian territories, early
homesteads where rated women were violated, men were tortured, and
children were killed right in front of their parents. This
is what the natives were doing to the white settlers,
who were like brave day Ocean to come across here
and then start developing actual civilization, not nomadically traveling across

(01:26:23):
the land, and settlers diaries tell of bodies left dismembered,
sometimes with flesh removed. Ritual cannibalism record in records, and
actually in conflicts between the Iroquais and the whend At.
These are documented in French explorer journals, British colonial reports,
and even earlier Canadian newspapers. Yet these accounts are almost

(01:26:45):
never mentioned in modern classrooms. Why because it doesn't fit
the political script and the endless indigenous victimhood. So what
are we taking away from this? No mass grays were
found justify unverified soil anomalies. Most deaths were from disease,
not secret murders. Residential schools had negative and positive legacies

(01:27:09):
ignored by politicians today. Early settlers endured horrific violence from
some tribes, history that's been deliberately erased. This is not
about denying anyone suffering. It is about demanding the whole truth.
History is complicated in the narrative. You've been fed that
Canada was solely built on genocide, while settlers while settlers

(01:27:32):
were saints or villains is a lie. The truth is
Europeans built the framework of the nation we live in
today while facing brutal warfare and unimaginable atrocities, and the
residential schools today twisted into a political weapon. Think critically,
read the records, and don't swallow the whole headline. So definitely,
wh if you're out there, you know, where's the Strange podcast,

(01:27:52):
support us, support Jim, give us five star rate and reviews.
Comment on the page when you see this, whatever video platform,
whether it be rumble x or YouTube comments. Share. All
those little things do a lot. You know, yes, stay curious,
gas day, skeptical, and don't let them rewrite history because
that's what they're doing and this is how they dismantle
a nation from within. This is part of the agenda.

(01:28:15):
They've done this for a long time. So make sure
you support the show. Everything helps. All these little things
do help, you know, you getting our name out there,
you sharing the episode, all of those things. And I
might not agree with Jim on everything, but he makes
some valid points and at the end of the day,
right like the can I grew up in was a
multiculturalist country, but people embraced what it was to be Canadian.

(01:28:40):
They didn't try to import their cultures other than places
like Chinatown, which I don't think should exist. You know,
it should be if you're coming to Canada, you should
adapt and assimilate to Canadian values. And we shouldn't be
painting people and victims or villains. You know, hence why
I push back against it still hard, because I'm not
going to be painted at a villain for something that

(01:29:01):
had nothing to do with and neither did my ancestors.
And I'm not gonna allow any amount of lies or
cultural Marxist brainwashing. Tell me different, or tell my children
or the people around me that you know, we're somehow
evil because of our skin color. You know, this has
led to a lot of deaths in history when people
push this type of propaganda and narrative which is being
constantly done to white people. That's a fact. And now

(01:29:22):
it's being done in Japan too, to being done is
being done in South Korea. They're coming after the ancients next.
It sure seems like it. But yeah, people need to
wake up. This was a lie. You know, this was
a lie. They lied to you, They lied to you
to push an agenda and give money to essentially siphon

(01:29:42):
off money from the taxpayers into nonsense, into fake, imaginary crimes.
That's what happened. It's fake. They lied to you. No
school should be pushing this, No teacher should be wearing
those shirts. Imagine the money that's being made from those
This was all used as an agenda, it's quite clear.
So support at the show, you know, and wake up

(01:30:03):
out of this like victimhood mentality of villains and victims,
and this will all be used against all of us,
no matter who you are, what skin color you are
at the end of the day. So stay stirrings out there,
support the show, and we appreciate you for tuning in
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