SI #132 – Yeah, It’s Late…

Discussing politics, zombie apocalypse survival strategies, the Boys, Game Pass and switching to PC gaming, Zenless Zone Zero, Chicago tornados, Gladiator 2, sleeping, and a smidge of wrestling.

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Episode Transcript

(00:27):
[Alex] You know, I realized last week, I don't think I ever did the intro.
[Erica] Did we not?
[Alex] Yeah, I think you made me forget to do it.
[Erica] No, it's my fault. Obviously, it's my fault.
[Alex] Oh, it's not. I mean, look, in our new world order, Erica, there's nothing you're going to blame on the white man.
[Erica] Can I tell you, when I saw some news this evening, I was out watering my plants. And Bob had texted me a question, a random question. I was like, let me just kind of... Let me do the scroll through Tumblr while I'm waiting for something to fill up. And I saw something about Joe Biden having COVID. And I was like...

(01:01):
[Alex] Here we go.
[Erica] Let me jump on a reputable news source. And let's see. Let me jump on NPR. And sure enough, Alex, the 81-year-old man has COVID. And you know what? let's just go let's you know what let's just you know remember
[Alex] remember when trump had covid but you know the difference was is he was just full of energy and uh virile and it was never going to take him out

(01:28):
[Erica] no of course not his ass was terrified when he got covid do you remember that
[Alex] remember when he got out and he was doing his big thing on the white house lawn and he was like clearly in bad shape
[Erica] right yeah it was like no you look pretty bad bro why don't you go lie down
[Alex] i just it's torch it

(01:48):
[Erica] let's just torch it let's just go
[Alex] it's so funny because i think sometimes when we're about to do the podcast you think to yourself well what are we going to talk about you know
[Erica] you know there was a time
[Alex] the world always provides erica
[Erica] where i was i was worried about that but then we've done we're on like what 130 of these fuckers

(02:09):
[Alex] there's a lot
[Erica] or something to that effect something around there Always find at least two hours to shoot the shit about.
[Alex] Oh, yeah. We'll just make stuff up.
[Erica] Well, you could talk for 12 hours about world events. Like, oh, God. Bob asked me. He was like, the ghost of Bob over dinner was like, so what are you going to lose your mind about on the podcast? And I'm like, I don't fucking know. And he's like, you have so many things to choose from. And I'm just like... it doesn't even like register anymore. Like it used to deal psychic damage. Right. And I'd be like, Jesus fucking Christ. And now I'm just like, you know what? I can't start paying attention. I mean, it's the conventions are right now. I think the Republican fuck fest is going on right now in Milwaukee. Um, the Democrats are in Chicago, I think. So like avoid the city at all costs, whenever the fuck that happens. Um, Hoping to have one that rivals, like, I think it was 1960, where shit was just... Everybody was mad, and it was just like...

(03:18):
[Alex] Well, that Democrat convention's gonna be crazy. Did you see Trump... Trump's campaign released some sort of message of, it was something along the lines of, well, we don't want to confirm yet that there will be a vice presidential debate between, what's his name, J.D.?

(03:39):
[Erica] Eyepatch guy.
[Alex] No, it's not him.
[Erica] No, he used to have an eyepatch.
[Alex] He did? Yeah. I
[Erica] don't know if something happened with his eye, but he was an eyepatch. He was eyepatch guy for a while there, J.D. Vance.
[Alex] Oh, okay. Unless there's
[Erica] another Republican that wears an eyepatch.
[Alex] There is definitely in the house. Okay. The guy in the wheelchair.
[Erica] Is he in a wheelchair?

(04:00):
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] Okay. I mean, fuck him. He's a Republican. But I thought it was J.D. Vance. Is he not eyepatch guy?
[Alex] Well, no. Eyepatch guy, I think who you're thinking of, he's actually a semi-moderate Republican. Oh, well, then not funny. He's not far right, like off in Looney Tunes land. He still votes
[Erica] with them all the time, though. Oh, sure. Of course. Right. So it doesn't matter. You got to stay in

(04:21):
[Alex] line.
[Erica] Exactly.
[Alex] but no so anyways they're basically along the lines of well we don't want to confirm there will be a debate between jd vance and whoever because we don't know who the vice presidential candidate is going to be and that was like right before the news of biden having covid broke and i was like the shit stirring

(04:43):
[Erica] is that's pretty masterful
[Alex] I hate the Republicans because they're so good at it. I just had this conversation
[Erica] with somebody else. Just the machine of evil has been working for so long and they are so good at it.
[Alex] It's so well-oiled. It's frustratingly well-oiled.
[Erica] Yep. While the Democrats are just sitting here with their dick in their hands like, wait, what? What's going on? Should we be trying to win something?

(05:06):
[Alex] I am blown away that in the moment, this is so crazy to me. Trump gets shot at. His ear gets hit.
[Erica] Shot. He got shot.
[Alex] Yeah. I don't
[Erica] care, mind you. But he did get shot.
[Alex] Yeah. His ear gets clipped.

(05:27):
[Erica] Doesn't call the people the next day. He's laying on the
[Alex] ground. Well, of course, that's normal.
[Erica] Gotta go golf. It's more important.
[Alex] He's laying on the ground. And he has two thoughts. I don't know if you saw there was a transcript of what was said between him and the Secret Service. I
[Erica] didn't look at it because, again, I don't care.
[Alex] Okay. He's still
[Erica] breathing. Don't care.

(05:49):
[Alex] Essentially, what it came down to was he was like asking for his shoe or something like his shoe got knocked off. And who knows? Maybe that's because he didn't want to be. looking disheveled or maybe he's got the lifts in there right i mean there's
[Erica] probably lifts but i will also say though you did just get shot at you're in shock so you're just like yeah where's my where's my shoe but what's

(06:12):
[Alex] crazy is he that's his first thought and then he stands up and he puts his fist in the air and we're going to be seeing that photo forever of commandant trump
[Erica] I will tell you, though, from what I read, he did not get a bump from getting shot at. The polls are still pretty much the same.
[Alex] Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. We can definitely talk about that, but I'm just amazed in the moment, like, publicity brain Trump thinks to himself, put your fist in the air so you look strong or something. Right,

(06:45):
[Erica] that's all he thinks about. Ugh. I was very happy it was a white man that tried to kill him. I was waiting. I was like, oh, here we go.
[Alex] Erica, if it would have been... I can't even imagine the shitstorm. If it would have been some brown person from wherever, I can't even imagine it. And I think that's part of the reason... See, I don't know how you felt, but the next day after it all went down, it was weirdly... There wasn't the crazy amount of coverage of it that you would expect. Like there was a lot. Don't get me wrong. They're pushing it. But it wasn't everywhere. It wasn't everything. And the former president of the United States running for president again gets shot. And it was like, OK, another day shrug, you know. Right. And maybe that's just because, again, we're so used to it now. Like every like I was saying the other day, you know, a week from now, 20 kids are going to get shot up in a school somewhere and we're just going to be like, you

(07:51):
[Erica] know, it's gun violence. We don't talk about that. Right.
[Alex] And I think this sort of falls along the same line. But I also think a big part of the reason there wasn't the big mega push is it came out. It's a white kid. Who's the Republican?
[Erica] Yep.
[Alex] And that killed so much of the narrative for them. Like, it had to hurt it.

(08:12):
[Erica] But, see, this is what drives me crazy about the Democrats is because you know what the move should have been instantly? We're going to introduce the Donald Trump gun safety bill.
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] We need to rein this shit in. Even our presidents are getting shot at. Vote against this motherfucker.
[Alex] Yeah, and they would. Of course they would.

(08:32):
[Erica] But at least you can be like, see, they don't even give a shit about this guy. I did like them complaining, and it's like, okay, it's a Republican event in a concealed carry state. People are going to have guns.
[Alex] What are you
[Erica] bitching about?
[Alex] What's wild, it is, I mean, if you wanted to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole, it is crazy.

(08:56):
[Erica] Which I have seen people do, and I'm just like, I got no time for it.
[Alex] It's unbelievable that a flat roof, 150, you know, whatever it was, was it yards or meters? I think it was 150 meters from where Trump was. A flat roof doesn't have anybody near it or on it. Like, that is wild. Because 150 meters is not that far of a shot for an assault rifle.

(09:23):
[Erica] Unless they felt that they had it covered, you know, on other rooftops.
[Alex] Yeah, I mean, it's just... And then the fact that he gets off a bunch of shots. And if you watch the video leading up to it, there's people for minutes before he shoots at him. Like, hey, there's someone up there. There's someone up there, you know? And nothing really got done about it. It's just crazy.

(09:48):
[Erica] I mean, the Secret Service has got to hang out with him all the time.
[Alex] But those are probably his people. Yeah.
[Erica] and they might just be like oh
[Alex] i don't know
[Erica] an opportunity
[Alex] i don't know we could be
[Erica] free of him forever
[Alex] it's wild and it's wild i'm surprised this is the first time this has happened oh i mean

(10:11):
[Erica] thousand percent at
[Alex] least that we know of i mean there's probably a lot of things that get cut off before it gets to public knowledge
[Erica] yes
[Alex] um But just to have it get to that level where, and you know, if Trump doesn't turn his head at the last second, his brains probably get blown out. But he just happens to turn his head and his ear gets clipped instead. Now, I would argue, I feel like this is like video game brain. I don't know why you're aiming for his head. That's honestly a tough... Aim

(10:43):
[Erica] small, miss small, baby. You got to aim for the...
[Alex] And maybe he's wearing something. Right. I mean, he's in the middle of an open air area. Right. Maybe he's wearing a vest or something. I don't
[Erica] know.
[Alex] I mean, you like to think that the secret service would say, Hey, you know, you're going to be standing out here in the middle of the open. Maybe you should have something on, but you know, maybe it's like a, maybe it's like a, um, who's the daredevil villain. Uh, Kingpin? Kingpin, yeah. Maybe it's like a Kingpin suit. You know, the whole thing's made out of Kevlar or something. Are they

(11:16):
[Erica] bringing him back for that new show?
[Alex] I believe so, yeah.
[Erica] I love Vincent D'Onofrio. Well, didn't
[Alex] they bring him... He already got brought back for some other Marvel thing. Like, he was on that... he was on one of the tv shows so he's been back yeah since the disney stuff
[Erica] okay
[Alex] um i haven't really paid attention no i don't know who could
[Erica] possibly fucking care no i
[Alex] didn't watch it but i know he's been brought back because yeah he was that was he was like the king ben to me um but yeah i just it's wild man it's it's crazy how things happen and that's one of those moments you know Like I've told you before, I think the first time Trump got elected because when the Cubs won the World Series, they put us into an alternate dimension. You know, there's a dimension somewhere where the Cubs didn't win the World Series.

(12:02):
[Erica] And Trump never won.
[Alex] Hillary's president. It's like there's someone there's an Erica and Alex off in a different dimension. They're chilling. Right.
[Erica] good things are happening in that dimension alex
[Alex] maybe
[Erica] maybe
[Alex] um but if
[Erica] we're going in the infinite universes theory something good's gotta be and i think
[Alex] another i think another universe split off where trump didn't turn his head oh

(12:26):
[Erica] sure
[Alex] and he got shot for realsies not a little clip and uh he was
[Erica] playing golf the next day he's fine he's fine probably rattled
[Alex] Because
[Erica] how would you not be? But dude's fine. I'm not like crying for fucking Trump.
[Alex] Oh, this is one of the funny things. I have been enjoying the... There's been the, like, hand of God thing, you know, like, oh, God stepped in and protected Trump right there. Hates all those kids, though, huh? Because nothing else makes sense, right? So it's like, yeah, so God protected Trump, but anytime the kids get shot up in a school, he's not protecting any of them. Fuck

(13:05):
[Erica] those kids, man. Also,
[Alex] he's not protecting the person who the bullet got curved into who took it for Trump. Yeah, well, they don't matter.
[Erica] That guy doesn't
[Alex] matter. No, that guy doesn't
[Erica] matter. Yeah, fuck him. Yeah. Widow didn't get called. Biden called her, though.
[Alex] I do think it's so funny. Like, I get you're down the political rabbit hole and you're at a Trump rally, so you're in the cult, right? No one's going to a Trump rally who isn't in the cult.

(13:31):
[Erica] If you're at a rally, you're hook, line, and sinker.
[Alex] I get it, but, like, you know, that's your opportunity. You really don't like Biden? Pick up the phone and tell him. I mean, he's not going to, like, process any of it or care because he's just gone, but... That's your opportunity, right? And then Trump doesn't even call you. Like, you're simping for the guy who didn't even call you.

(13:57):
[Erica] He doesn't care about anyone but himself.
[Alex] I think he cares about his daughter, too. But that's it.
[Erica] That's it. Only because he wants to
[Alex] fuck her.
[Erica] Correct. The only reason he's running for president is so that he doesn't go to jail. That's why. That's why this is happening again. Well, because he's an
[Alex] egomaniac.
[Erica] He is an egomaniac, yes. He doesn't fucking care about anybody.

(14:22):
[Alex] Yep, it's him and his daughter.
[Erica] How do you not call? Hey, sorry, man.
[Alex] Hey, thanks for taking one for the team.
[Erica] That sucks. That really sucks. I'm allegedly rich. Let me help with the funeral costs. Nah. I got to golf. I got to tee time. Sorry.
[Alex] And then I saw fucking Elon is giving him $45 million a month for his campaign. How is this allowed? I don't know. Like, you cannot allow this shit to happen. This is so fucked, man. Mm-hmm. Sir, you're trying not to get mad right now? Oh, no,

(14:56):
[Erica] I'm not trying to get mad. It's not surprising to me at
[Alex] all. I know it's not. No, it's just we're in this crazy-ass world.
[Erica] Of course that's allowed. Why wouldn't it be allowed? Because he's a right-wing nutbag, too. Yeah, I know. For all he tries to act like he's not. Because those are the only people who simp for him.
[Alex] I have a theory, though. I have a theory because why does a right wing 20 year old kid try to kill Trump? I have a theory. I said this like four days ago or whatever this happened. Why would he do it? Well, I think I don't know how much you've been paying attention, but some of the Epstein files stuff has started to come out.

(15:40):
[Erica] Oh, no. Yeah, I
[Alex] heard. And Trump's name is all over that shit.
[Erica] Not surprising.
[Alex] And you've been telling the crazy fucks in the cult for all these years. Right. We're coming after all these pedophiles, right? We're getting these pedophiles. The government's filled with them. The Pizzagate stuff. Remember that when Alex Jones really pushed that hard? The Democrats are in a basement of a pizza place and they're fucking kids, right? So you keep pushing these narratives, the pedophile narrative all the time. Well, you're a crazy fuck. You're sitting in your basement all day just, you know, propagandizing yourself pretty much, right? And then it starts to come out, hey, you know, there's a lot of stuff in these Epstein files that seem to corroborate what that woman has been saying for years that Trump raped her when she was 13. All this stuff starts to line up. And so you go, oh, my God.

(16:42):
[Erica] He's one of them.
[Alex] He's one of the pedophiles. And I've been misled. I thought this was my guy, but he's a pedophile too. I
[Erica] mean, that's possible.
[Alex] I think that's why he did it.
[Erica] It's
[Alex] possible. I don't know why. Cause like, there's the thing you do that, you know, you're even if you're crazy, you know, you're not getting out of there alive. To me, I would have wrote the manifesto before I went.

(17:02):
[Erica] Oh, you got to write the manifesto, Alex. That's very important. And
[Alex] maybe the manifesto did get written and like his parents burned it before the police got there or something. I mean,
[Erica] unless he was, what, 20?
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] Young and stupid. You don't think of that. You're going to live forever. It'll be fine. I didn't think of that. That's entirely possible.
[Alex] That's my theory. Because unless the feeling was Trump's just not far right enough for him, like he got super crazy, so we have to take out the guy who's only moderately crazy. That's the other thing. It's like I always- Imagine

(17:35):
[Erica] looking at Trump and being like, these guys are moderates. He's not harsh enough.
[Alex] Well, it is the funny thing about Trump is that he's not actually a Republican. I always love that, you know, it's like he's just whatever his positions are, whatever he thinks he can win on. That's all he cares about. He doesn't stand for
[Erica] anything. There is no platform. You know what the platform is? What the fucking Heritage Foundation wants it to be. Project 2025, folks.

(17:59):
[Alex] I also love this Vance guy because... And this... I don't mind, you know, I mean, I mind, but it's whatever. If you're a Ben Shapiro, I'll just give an easy example. Ben Shapiro has been peddling the same nonsense for like over a decade, right? Like this dude's had one platform of evil bullshit his whole public life. Sure. This Vance guy, he used to be like, I'm a never Trumper. Fuck Trump. He's a terrible person. He's Hitler. He's going to destroy this country. And then someone gets in his ear and they say, hey, you know, if you'll just like rim Trump's asshole a little bit, you could be vice president of the United States.

(18:50):
[Erica] We just needed to delete some tweets.
[Alex] And then he goes, and then he just like 180s every single position he's ever had. I like eating
[Erica] ass. Yeah, let's go. And
[Alex] like, doesn't that, doesn't the fakeness of it bother anyone?
[Erica] I would hope it would. Because it is like, even Nikki Haley a few months ago, because she was running against him. He's bad for America. He's this, he's that. And then she

(19:16):
[Alex] drops out and endorses him.
[Erica] Right? So now we're okay with this?
[Alex] I just don't
[Erica] know. They're all full of shit.
[Alex] I know. But like, couldn't you like make it less obvious? Can we do just a little bit of work to make it less obvious that we're just willing to completely change a position to fit the moment we're in? And this isn't exclusive to the Republicans. No, no, no, no, no. But the Democrats at least will make some effort to be like, well. Here's why we've completely 180'd on our position. The Republicans are just like, oh, look, look, look, you want to hear this? This is what we'll say. We'll say whatever you want.

(19:55):
[Erica] What do you need me to say? Yeah, I'm tongue in his ass. What? What of it?
[Alex] And I can talk out of the other side of my mouth at the same time. It's
[Erica] incredible. Look at this shit.
[Alex] I've got talent.
[Erica] Skills. Skills for days. But
[Alex] I don't know. Okay. So what would you do, Erica? You're able to decree tomorrow who will be the presidential candidate for the Democrats. Do you stick with Biden or do you do something?

(20:22):
[Erica] I think just because it's usually the incumbent candidate. Very rare is the incumbent voted out, right? It doesn't... It has, it's happened, but it doesn't usually... It just
[Alex] happened four years ago, Trump.
[Erica] Well, there was also, right, you massively bungled with the pandemic and that was the only reason that... Yeah, otherwise he probably wins easily. He would have won easily. Doesn't happen often, but it does happen. I don't know. For me... One, who else you got? I have not seen anybody put forth anybody since the last time we talked about this.

(21:00):
[Alex] The grand idea seems to be the rollout, Harris.
[Erica] kamala harris
[Alex] yeah
[Erica] that's very stupid
[Alex] that seems to be the ground i'm
[Erica] saying this as a woman and it pains me to say it a woman today is not going to win a presidential election
[Alex] and a minority

(21:20):
[Erica] it's not going to happen it's just not and it kills me to say that and maybe i'm being too pessimistic Maybe, you know, the door will kick open and certain actors from certain subpar Netflix shows will come in and be like, can I live in your basement forever? I secretly adore you. Maybe that'll happen, Alex. Maybe that could happen. There's a universe out there in theory. Where that's at.

(21:48):
[Alex] If that happened in the moment, you'd be so happy. I'd die. But then you'd be laying in bed later and you go, what is about to happen to counteract this? Because there must be balance.
[Erica] Yep. What horrible
[Alex] thing? Something bad. Hit by a bus immediately. Something really bad is about to happen. Oh, no. See, that's not what I'm talking about. You'd have to live.

(22:13):
[Erica] Oh, you'd have to live to suffer?
[Alex] Yeah. You can't just die and get out of the suffering. That's
[Erica] fair. That's fair.
[Alex] So, no. Something really bad would happen to you, but it wouldn't involve your own mental or your own physical well-being. I just... I'm with you... The problem is for me, see, I can think of women who would have had a chance. Like if the Democrats would have spent the past four years propping up, let's say, Michelle Obama. Someone who can talk, someone who has some degree of charisma, even though she has no political background other than, you know, I mean, obviously she did some things as first lady.

(22:59):
[Erica] Sure.
[Alex] But she's never been an elected official.
[Erica] She's not interested in that.
[Alex] Yeah. But maybe someone like that could have a chance. But.
[Erica] kamala
[Alex] harris just she has she has no charisma
[Erica] anybody who's like that in the democratic party is too far left for them

(23:20):
[Alex] yeah
[Erica] because i think a03 i always say a03 aoc has charisma for fucking oh i
[Alex] mean she would eviscerate trump in a debate for sure i mean
[Erica] the debates don't matter though that doesn't matter
[Alex] they matter to some degree but they're not the end all be all
[Erica] But the folks in the squad, I feel they have a lot of charisma, but... Oh, we can't have that. Even though they end up usually winning their primaries by, like, stupid amounts and, like, end up winning their seats by... Yeah.

(23:47):
[Alex] Well, AOC's won every time in a landslide. Of course, that doesn't mean that would work on a national level.
[Erica] No, no. She's in New York. She's, you know, in a fairly liberal area, so it makes sense. But... She's very good at breaking down an issue and talking to it. She's very, very good at that. And I feel like she's got some fight in her and you don't see that from the fucking Democrats. Like she, somebody, uh, I guess there was a top like Democrat in the house or something was like, Oh, well we're all resigned to a second Trump presidency. why why and she said

(24:30):
[Alex] if you if that's your mindset just quit or
[Erica] something you'll see it was like what are you fucking doing here then step down get out of your leadership position and let's get somebody in there who actually wants to fight
[Alex] well and that does seem like to that seems like that's the mindset in the democratic party right now which is hey We're all fucking rich. We're set up. We don't care.

(24:52):
[Erica] Right. It doesn't matter to them.
[Alex] We can. It's so much easier to be the opposition party and to not be in power because then anything that ever happens, you can just say, well, we wouldn't have done that. And that's not how we would handle it. And if we're ever in power, we're going to do this, that and the other. And of course, they'll actually do nothing. And then they'll be shocked in four years when everyone wants to get rid of them. But. Yeah, I mean, like, I honestly do think that's the mindset is we would rather be the opposition party for four years so we can campaign on all the mistakes that happen.

(25:27):
[Erica] Right. Because it's easy. Yeah, they don't give a fuck. And some of them are so entrenched that it's just like, yeah, no, we're comfortable and we're fine and we make all of the money in the universe and we've got the good health care. But we ain't going nowhere. You have to start primarying these people and just be like... Because... The one thing, because you see a lot of people being like, well, I'm not going to vote. There's really no point in this. And I'm like, I don't need this defeatist nonsense right now.

(25:55):
[Alex] I hate that mindset because I'm seeing that with some of my family members as well. where they sit around and they watch too much cnn and they get propagandized and it's the propaganda is we're fucked if biden's the candidate and we have no chance and it's going to be a landslide and trump's going to win this state and he's going to win that state and you know what even if that's true you still fucking vote You still go vote because there's a very obvious voter suppression campaign going on. And this is happening across all the cable news networks. I mean, every single one is trying to get Trump. They

(26:33):
[Erica] want you to feel defeated so that you don't go out and vote, that it's an inevitable thing. Fuck them.
[Alex] Fuck you. No, it's not. In some of these states, like the last couple times in Georgia, these states are coming down to a minuscule number of votes. Well,
[Erica] then why do you think that they're trying to suppress the votes? Oh, you can't give somebody a bottle of water down there if they're in line to vote. Why do you think they're doing that?

(26:57):
[Alex] Yeah, and if you manage to convince 50,000 liberals or conservatives, either way, you manage to convince 50,000 people not to come out and vote in one of these states.
[Erica] Oh, that's the election.
[Alex] You've swung the vote. Yep. And that doesn't sound like a shitload of people, but it really is in some of these states. They're so tight.

(27:19):
[Erica] Well, and here is the thing. I am not... We've talked about this before. I am not voting for Biden. I am not... No
[Alex] one's voting for Biden. He
[Erica] inspires... Like, do I think he is a good man? Yes. Do I think he has done some good things? Yes. I am not excited to vote for the fucking Crypt Keeper again. I'm not.
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] And he has done some good things. We talked about the infrastructure bill. We talked about the stuff, like the executive stuff that he's tried to do. But you can only do so much if you don't have Congress behind you. And the fact that the Democrats are all like... Well, if it's him, we're fucked. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what we're doing. That's not what we're doing. You do what they did in France, where they saw that, oh, fuck, Le Pen and the fucking right-wing nutbags won a lot in that first initial, because I think they do like three rounds or whatever, of elections. They won big in that first one. So the left was like, I don't fucking think so, got their shit together and defeated them and ended up having more seats than them.

(28:18):
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] That's what needs to be happening right now. Not this, oh my God, we can't win. If he's the fucking nominee, shut the fuck up and let's get to fucking work.
[Alex] And that is the difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. Absolutely. Is the Republicans, even if they don't like a candidate. I mean, think about how many Republicans over the course of the last 10 years have been like, Trump's a terrible person. We don't want Trump. But I'm going to vote with him 100% of the time. Whatever the fucking reasons are. But at the end of the day, they all get in line and they vote together. Yep. on the big issues i mean i'm sure there's like there's some things here and there they don't all line up on but when it comes to like

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[Erica] but if he's the major
[Alex] party deciding things
[Erica] if he's the nominee
[Alex] yeah
[Erica] but okay if you don't want him to be the nominee you got to tell me who you're going with and then if it is kamala harris okay that's well well and good let's go how are we going to get her elected what are we going to do

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[Alex] If it's Kamala Harris, they better find somebody to be the VP who's a fountain of charisma. Like, I don't even know who that would be. You know what I would do? This is never going to happen, of course. If I were the Democrats, I'd be kicking Jon Stewart's door down. I'd be like, please run for president. Please. Because I think Jon Stewart could beat Trump.

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[Erica] Maybe.
[Alex] I think he appeals not only to the leftists. Honestly, the debate
[Erica] would be funny.
[Alex] Oh, the debate would be an all-timer. That'd be a good
[Erica] time.
[Alex] I don't think, I don't think. Well, this is one of those things. Whoever the candidate is, let's just say for the sake of argument, Biden
[Erica] gets replaced or whatever. We're probably not having any more debates. Trump
[Alex] ain't debating anybody. No. Because there's no benefit. No. Right? What's the benefit to him?

(30:12):
[Erica] Nothing. Because he doesn't stand for anything. Yeah. So there's no point in him going out and being like... when he could just go do rallies well i just enjoys i
[Alex] just yeah i just mean like if you're you know if you're trump at that point you're the presumptive leader you know you're the favorite at that point no matter who it is unless it's like the fucking rock or something but you know if it's trump versus whoever i know

(30:38):
[Erica] they hit that fucking music
[Alex] oh i mean you want to win it you well and here's the thing right there if I'm again that's another one call him up and say hey we know you're not a democrat you're a republican who
[Erica] cares
[Alex] do you want to be president of the united states we're
[Erica] republicans too just not a name so
[Alex] we're two sides of the same coin would you

(30:58):
[Erica] like to make a lot of money
[Alex] well fuck the money do you want to like
[Erica] and get some real good health insurance be president of the united
[Alex] states of america
[Erica] we could make this happen duane
[Alex] I mean you want to like have a meteoric rise yeah could you imagine the music hitting
[Erica] It really would just be like, so it's come to this.
[Alex] But you gotta fight fire with fire.

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[Erica] You have to fight. That's all that I'm asking. I don't want us to roll over and die. Then that's what people are doing. And it's infuriating. Because it comes down to, you're gonna have, if Trump gets a second fucking term... you're going to have at least two Supreme Court justices retire.

(31:41):
[Alex] Oh, yeah.
[Erica] And then he's going to appoint, like, 18-year-old right-wing nutbags who are going to live for a thousand years and continue to ruin everything for everyone always. Yeah. So suck it the fuck up, and we're voting against Trump. Yeah, we're not voting.
[Alex] No one's voting for Biden.

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[Erica] I like having rights. I enjoy that. It's kind of nice.
[Alex] Well... Maybe your husband will treat you good when he owns you.
[Erica] Just, yeah, just shoot me in the fucking face.
[Alex] Yeah, no, and that's another, I didn't even think of that today, which is, yeah, some of these guys are getting old that are on the Supreme Court. And if it's a Democrat as president, they might try to hang on, right? Because they know if two of them retire, that swings things again. Yep. But if it's Trump as president, they're going to retire.

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[Erica] Oh, Clarence is done day one. Yeah.
[Alex] Yeah, they're going to retire. And like you said, they're going to find like the judge in Florida. They're going to find some 40 year old judge who will do whatever the fuck they want, who's real far right. And they're going to throw them in that spot and they're going to let them sit there for 50 years. And I just it's it's so important because

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[Erica] that's what we're voting for that and local states stuff.
[Alex] It's so crazy, too, how it keeps lining up for Trump where he could be president when so many Supreme Court justices are coming up to retire.
[Erica] Yeah.
[Alex] It's so crazy how that keeps happening.
[Erica] Well, someone who very well loved should have retired when Obama was in

(33:24):
[Alex] office. That was a huge mistake. They should have pushed her a lot harder.
[Erica] Yep.
[Alex] That was extremely selfish.
[Erica] Yep. And I know we all love her. And you know what? She did some great stuff. That was a
[Alex] big mistake. But unforced error, folks. That was a generational mistake.
[Erica] The functioning of democracy shouldn't rest. And it shouldn't rest on an 80-year-old cancer survivor.

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[Alex] Well, and here's the other thing. You can go back and think about What got us here? And I think one of the real big time we're the Democrats and we can decree who's going to be president mistakes was because if you remember. Right. When Obama first was president. you know coming on the scene really lighting on fire and everything who was supposed to be the candidate then was hillary but barack came around and he was just a dynamo and they couldn't

(34:29):
[Erica] charismatic and
[Alex] yeah they just had to she had to step aside it wasn't she was never going to have any chance and that's why they well you
[Erica] promised next time it's you
[Alex] Right. And that was the big mistake. So you let her be secretary of state, which is, you know, outside of the president, kind of like the second most powerful person in a lot of ways. So you gave her that and then you said you're going to be the next candidate. Well, let's

(34:54):
[Erica] not act like she was in Congress as well. It wasn't like it's not like they were just like, oh, yeah, you were the president's wife.
[Alex] No, no, no. I'm not saying that's why it happened. I know what you're saying. I know
[Erica] where you're going.
[Alex] But what I'm saying is I think that was like they had already decided then Hillary's going to be the president at some point. There's like she deserves it or whatever the mindset was. Trump comes along. And one, not only do they railroad Bernie, but well before that, because Bernie might have actually ended up being the candidate. I think Bernie beats Trump, to tell you the truth. I agree with you. But before that, though, they took a shit on Biden. Because really, after Obama, it should have been Biden. And I think that Joe Biden, at the age he was at then... with the mind that he still had at the time, eviscerates Trump. I think he just eviscerates him, and Trump never even gets a chance of being president.

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[Erica] What nobody accounted for, and this is... Nothing against her. I don't know her. I'm not a big fan. Hillary was
[Alex] too
[Erica] much fucking baggage. People don't like her. Is it fair? Is it fair? It doesn't matter if it's fair or not. No, but it doesn't fucking matter.
[Alex] The presidency at the end of the day is a popularity contest. It's not about policies. They can say whatever they want. Trump does! Right. Maybe that does pull a couple voters here or there. but it's not about policies for like 95% of the population. It's just who do we like better? Or in this case, well, maybe I don't like Trump, but you know what I really hate is when I go to the grocery store and my eggs are like $1,000. And is that Joe Biden's fault? Is that the Democrats' fault? Maybe not, but it doesn't matter because they're in charge and it's like a shit rolls downhill situation. Mm-hmm. And that's all that people know is when I go to the grocery store, when I go get fast food, when I do whatever, I go to a restaurant. My bill is crazy. That's all the people

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[Erica] know. But I would say. And then they
[Alex] also know that Biden's like, you know, got one and three quarters feet in the grave at this point.
[Erica] He's old. I don't give a
[Alex] fuck. He's just not what he used to be. No, I know. 10, 15 years ago, he just was a totally different person. I mean, there were some vice presidential debates when Obama was running where he would just destroy the other guy. I mean, he used to be a great debater.

(37:38):
[Erica] Mm-hmm.
[Alex] Well,
[Erica] he's a lifelong politician that actually and for all his faults, because, you know, the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings, you could go back there and, you know, faults. He's not perfect. Nobody is. But he was a good politician. He's old. He's tired. And I get it.

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[Alex] Well, and what is with these? I mean, I hate to be like that guy, but what's with these fucking boomers that just want to hold on to power until the end of time? Literally until they're dead. And, you know, the other thing, and I think this... Because I think
[Erica] we're going to ruin everything. I
[Alex] think this is another thing that dings Biden is, you could tell me if I'm wrong, but I feel like when he was running the first time, he made it sound like I'm running to defeat Trump for this one term. And I'm not going to go for a second term. I just want to beat him for this one term. And then we're going to get someone else in here to be president.

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[Erica] I feel like that was out there.
[Alex] I don't know if that was actually said, but I think the feeling was Biden like, yeah, I'm fucking old, but I'm a one term president. And then we're going to get someone else in here.
[Erica] But see what you're saying, though, that would require like work on the DNC's part. Well, let's
[Alex] let's prop some people up. Let's build somebody up. Right.

(39:03):
[Erica] Well,
[Alex] and here's what's frustrating. I don't know why, but do you notice? I mean, I think we talked about this last time. I feel like J.B. Pritzker has done a really good job as the governor of Illinois.
[Erica] I agree.
[Alex] There's no national press for him. Like there's none. Do you notice that? Like the Republicans do a great job of coming along and shitting on Gavin Newsom, but there's no counter argument from the Democrats of propping someone up. Like come along and say, Hey, you know, Illinois is actually run really well.

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[Erica] We're paying off our bills. We got out of, I was talking to my dad about this the other day. We got out of the junk credit status. He's doing a good job.
[Alex] And he's like the rare rich guy who didn't become a politician just to line his family's pockets more. He actually like, you know, what have the Republicans done a great job of making themselves seem like they're the party of the working man, even if they're really not.

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[Erica] It's just like.
[Alex] But they've made it seem like.
[Erica] I know. And it's infuriating because it is just like, what are you even talking about?
[Alex] And here's Pritzker actually signing bills that do help the working class.
[Erica] Yeah.
[Alex] But there's no coverage. I mean, I sent you that link the other day of... It

(40:26):
[Erica] was the insurance thing, right?
[Alex] Yeah, it was something to do with like pre... What is it where the insurance has to... The pre-approvals or whatever. Yes, yes, yes.
[Erica] They like have to tell you what's...
[Alex] So it was essentially establishing a bunch of rules around how insurance companies can't manipulate pre-approval procedures to fuck you. Like they apparently went and actually talked to a bunch of doctors about the way the insurance companies will try to fuck you over. And then they set up a bill to help you out. So one of the core things in that bill is, hey, If they don't follow the rules as laid out in this bill, they are forced to cover it. So he did like... They did a good thing, the Democrats. They did what seems like... I mean, I don't know. Maybe there's some poison pill in there to help the insurance companies. I have no idea. I'm an idiot. But when you read about it...

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[Erica] Sounds pretty good to me. It
[Alex] sounds good. Was there any national coverage of that?
[Erica] I don't watch... I can't tell you about
[Alex] it. But I'm not talking about watching. I'm just talking about there was no like... i don't see anything on like news websites or anything uh
[Erica] the new york times sends like i need to get rid of it because all it is is biden's old democrats in disarray and i'm just like i i don't need this i don't need this

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[Alex] yeah
[Erica] because you're not helping i know the new york times is hoping for another trump presidency as all these outlets are but it's just like his
[Alex] ratings erica
[Erica] i don't need this oh because last time he got in
[Alex] Oh, they were through the roof.
[Erica] Oh, yeah. Well,
[Alex] because it's a disaster every day. So you can't turn away.
[Erica] Well, and it's what we have to. You need a free press and we need support. You need to give us money so that we can report against him. Maggie Haberman.

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[Alex] I just, you know, it's like, that's an example to me of, here's Pritzker seemingly doing good things, wins a second term easily.
[Erica] Dominated that other asshole. It was a joke.
[Alex] There's no, his face should be. Do you
[Erica] remember that? I know. That day where it was like, they were like, oh, 1% reporting in. Oh, Pritzker won. There's no chance. But

(42:37):
[Alex] prop him up. I completely agree with you. His face should be all over the place. Because
[Erica] that other guy, all he had was anti-trans people and bigoted nonsense. And that doesn't win elections. Yeah. People don't care about that. Not in the way that they seem to think that they do. I think that's backfired on the right wing quite spectacularly. Especially with younger folks.

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[Alex] I think it works on the cultists. But you already have the cultists. I don't think it works on anybody
[Erica] else. It doesn't matter. You have those people already. And younger folks coming up are like, who fucking cares? This is my friend. I don't care what my friend is. That doesn't matter to me.
[Alex] Yeah. Well, I think that's most that's most people's mindset, unless you're like

(43:23):
[Erica] a monster,
[Alex] deeply religious or something of just like, yeah, I don't I don't care that that person is transgender. Just let them live their life. What they're doing has no impact
[Erica] on me at all.
[Alex] has no effect or impact on anyone and i know what the argument is it's oh it's the destruction of traditional family values and it's leading to like the downfall of civilization or

(43:45):
[Erica] something no there's so many other things that are leading to the downfall of civilization that's not one of them that's not one of them folks
[Alex] i'm just giving you the argument i know i don't believe it
[Erica] i know i'm full of the american family you know what good let's go let's try something new so i did have a canvasser came to the door in our uh i think our state reps are republican here unfortunately and i was just like i took the things that i'm looking at because she was young she had to be like 17 18 years old and i was like do i want to start screaming at this person i don't think i'm gonna do that today I'm going to be like, this was a young girl. And I'm like, oh, you're for the Republicans, are you? Would you like to explain that to me? Explain your position. Why?

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[Alex] Yeah. Well, we're here. I have nothing to do. Right. I got nothing to do.
[Erica] I had dinner on the stove and Izzy was upstairs. So I was like, I'm not getting into this today. Because the guy who used to own our house was a big time Republican. More fiscal. I think he's fairly, I seem fairly socially not shitty. so it's funny. We get a lot of like Republican shit. I'm always just kind of like right in the garbage. What a waste of money.

(45:01):
[Alex] I was trying to tell this to someone the other day. There's really not like, I, In my mail anyway, I don't see that much political stuff. I mean, it's not like the way they paper it in some other states. No, we don't get a lot
[Erica] here just because it's kind of like assumed. It's a
[Alex] foregone conclusion.
[Erica] We don't get a lot of a lot of nonsense. I got we got a fair amount of mailers, though, in the last election, I feel like. But to me, I like to see people coming to the doors. I think you should be going out and talking to people. That's hard to do because I bet you do get screamed at. I'm

(45:40):
[Alex] sure. I'm sure you have to have a lot of uncomfortable conversations. When I worked for
[Erica] the union, we went into Gary. I mean, in Gary, most people were pro-Obama. We were canvassing there for him. And, um, when you had to be careful, it was fucking Gary. But, um, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it is, it's a lot of uncomfortable conversations and being cool with people like slamming doors on your face. But it is just like, you gotta, you gotta make those connections with people.

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[Alex] The other thing I hate that the Democrats love to get up to is they'll say, you know, oh, well, if we win. you know biden wins or whoever well we're gonna codify roe v wade and we're gonna you know overhaul the supreme court and we're gonna do this that and the other and it's like no wait a minute hold on so you couldn't do any of this before or you wouldn't but now if you win oh if you let us win again we swear this time we're gonna do things That's a tough argument to make.

(46:47):
[Erica] No, I agree with you. Well, I think the Roe v. Wade thing, they always felt that they didn't have to codify it because it was just established... uh fucking uh law right like oh the supreme court ruled on this it's established we're good but they didn't take into account that the republicans are evil fucks who have no morals and don't really care so they could say oh this is established we're not gonna fuck with this in their uh uh hearings and then turn around and be like oh no just kidding yeah no we don't believe in anything and we're monsters

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[Alex] And, you know, you have you the problem is, too, that, you know, Trump got to appoint all these judges all over the place. And in some point, some places he got some real crazy fucks in and like Cannon or whatever her name is in Florida, who just threw out that one case, the the secret documents case. Yeah. And the feeling seems to be that it's going to go in front of a circuit court and they're going to say, no, you can't do that. And then they're probably going to remove her off the case. But the problem is, by the time all that happens, by the time the case ends up in trial or something, President, you know, it'll be President Trump and then he'll just pardon himself of whatever and whatever. Oh, that was an official, you know, that was a magical fucking official act. So actually, even though I was storing, you know, highly classified documents in my bathroom.

(48:08):
[Erica] And I wasn't president at the time.
[Alex] Yeah. Yeah. That was all good. Official act. You know, that's what's going to happen. So she's already done her job and that she delayed, she delayed, she delayed. And it sucks that you have, because you'd like to think, you know, you'd like to think judges would be like morally sound people, but they're just like everybody else. Nope.

(48:33):
[Erica] Should be, but nope. Yeah. Should be impartial. Should recuse yourself, you know, if you're involved with some shit, but nope. If you're getting the weekends on the mega yachts and your wife actively tried to overthrow the last election, maybe you should recuse yourself.
[Alex] It's so wild to be so untouchable that you could do that. And there's nothing anybody can do about it.

(48:59):
[Erica] Well, there's things you can do. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just no one's going to do them.
[Alex] Right, of course. Two-thirds of Congress could vote to remove you, but that ain't happening.
[Erica] It was like with Trump and the impeachment stuff. It was like, no, yeah, this is shit he shouldn't be doing, but you guys all really enjoy sucking his dick, so... Yeah, great. What's even the fucking point?
[Alex] And that's another one where, like, if just a few people could have just helped out, you impeach him, you convict him, and then he can't run for president again. And we avoid all this. But we're just not going to do that. That

(49:34):
[Erica] would take some spine. That would take some political fucking bravery. And that's what it's going to take to get any kind of gun legislation passed. But people don't. They don't have that.
[Alex] Even
[Erica] though the majority of America wants fucking, like, no-nonsense, like, you know, sane gun safety laws. Like, oh, well, I might not get re-elected, so I can't do that.

(49:55):
[Alex] And what happened to... And God
[Erica] wants those kids to die anyway.
[Alex] He would have done something. Those bullets were meant for Trump, but they curved into those child's brains.
[Erica] Right, exactly.
[Alex] Yeah. I just... It sucks that we don't have any politicians anymore who are willing to maybe do something that is right, that's good, but they also know is going to cause them to not win another election.

(50:23):
[Erica] Well, because then I won't be in power anymore.
[Alex] I know. And that's the problem is they're all just so power hungry. Mm-hmm. I don't know, man. But at the end of the day, you know what? To me, it still comes down to a few things that an amazing amount of people do not want to accept, which is one. Neither party is the party of God. As much as right wing people want to think that the Republicans are, they're not. Both parties only worship one God and that God is money. That's it. The almighty God of capitalism. That's who they worship. And again, neither party's your fucking friend, man. And we're not like I hate that there's so much time spent bouncing around the right wing versus left wing beach ball because that's not the actual war.

(51:17):
[Erica] Right.
[Alex] The actual war is not a political war. It's a class war. And it's between the rich and everyone else.
[Erica] And the Republicans have done. Everybody has done an amazing job. don't worry about that getting you not to worry about it worry about it's not the rich
[Alex] people fucking you it's the other guy flipping burgers next to you at mcdonald's that guy's fucking his fault

(51:40):
[Erica] and that i've said that before i don't know if i've said that on this podcast but it's like that's if we unite against the and yeah you know what you're not gonna agree with everybody i don't agree with bob on a hundred percent of things
[Alex] no
[Erica] 75%. I don't know. We're two independent thinking people. We have different thoughts about stuff. We don't agree on everything all the time. I don't agree with anybody 100% of the time. There's never going to be a perfect candidate. Someone is always going to have some vote on their record that you're like, well, I don't really agree with that. That was kind of shitty. You got to make compromises. This is the fucking... I don't know what like... Perfect fairy world you were expecting these politicians to pop out of. They are human beings who suck. People suck. That's just the way of things. And they're going to latch on to whatever they think is going to be able to keep them in power for as long as possible. We need to fucking realize that it's the haves and the have-nots. And the haves have an awful fucking lot. Elon Musk can give $45 million a month to a fucking campaign. Why? Just

(52:44):
[Alex] to stick it to people.
[Erica] Why? Why have he not been dragged into the street and beaten to death?
[Alex] I really do think the way things are going, unless there's some monumental shift that happens in just the political sphere and in people's daily lives, but if you keep wages stagnant and you keep raising the price of everything over and over and over

(53:14):
[Erica] again, especially food,
[Alex] There's going to be a pushback at some point, and I am not going to be shocked if within our lifetimes a French Revolution-style thing happens in the United States. We'll see. Because it feels like we're on that path. It
[Erica] feels like we're on that path, for certain.

(53:35):
[Alex] Not to be super negative, but it really feels like we're on that path. That said, as I always say, I am a straight white man, and I will come out on top. You'll
[Erica] be fine.
[Alex] i'll be kicking i'll be kicking back playing some video games while there's some guys out getting their heads chopped off in the streets
[Erica] yeah you just gotta just stay in the house it'll be okay

(53:58):
[Alex] that's that's my thoughts on the zombie apocalypse erica if you just like stay in your house what's gonna happen in theory you should be okay can they smell me in my basement
[Erica] I don't know. I don't know if it's ever... Once I read, I think it was World War Z, which is an excellent book, by the way. I don't know. The audiobook is great, too, because it's... A

(54:18):
[Alex] great video game, too.
[Erica] All different... Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Movie sucks. But it's all different stories. It's like a short story collection. It's this guy going around collecting stories from during and after the zombie apocalypse that has happened. The audiobook, it's... a star-studded affair. It's crazy because it's Mel Brooks' kid who wrote it. So he went up to dad and he was like, hey, can you get...

(54:42):
[Alex] Sure.
[Erica] Can you light this up for me? I think Martin Scorsese is in that fucking audio book. It's bonkers. That's
[Alex] wild.
[Erica] It's great, though. It's very well done. And it's... That was like... That's pinnacle zombie to me. Everything after that, I was just kind of like, yeah, I'm good. Thank you. I'll go back and I'll play Left 4 Dead randomly every now and again because sometimes you just need to shoot some shit in the face. But... Yeah, you've said that World War Z game is pretty good.

(55:07):
[Alex] Oh yeah, World War Z is super fun. I think it's on Game Pass right now. It might be.
[Erica] I would also be remiss to say we are like almost an hour in and I don't think we did the intro.
[Alex] Oh, well, in that case, welcome. Not, you know, for last week, but for this week.
[Erica] This week.
[Alex] This is Subtle Interference.
[Erica] No one was welcome last week.
[Alex] No one was welcome. No one, no. This is Subtle Interference. I'm your host, Alex.

(55:31):
[Erica] I'm your other host, Eric.
[Alex] Great to be here.
[Erica] There we
[Alex] go. Janine Beatty Enthusiast. No. Yes.
[Erica] No, that works.
[Alex] All right.
[Erica] Appreciate you sticking to the bit,
[Alex] Alex. I almost forgot because I hadn't done it in like a month.
[Erica] I need some more leaks, Alex. I'm dying over here.

(55:53):
[Alex] Did you see to have a monumental shift?
[Erica] Oh, yeah. We're not talking any more politics. We're going into like dumb nonsense now.
[Alex] did you see microsoft is changing up how game pass is structured and what the prices are
[Erica] i did not
[Alex] okay so this is one of
[Erica] these we realize that this isn't a sustainable business model anymore so

(56:16):
[Alex] it turns out you can't fund triple a games off like a couple dollars a month um what where no one buys video games and you've spent like seven or eight years or whatever it's been teaching people not to buy video games on xbox right because because that is what you're taught when you have a ten dollar a month subscription service with a shitload of games on it why would you buy games because you just say to yourself well that'll come to game pass eventually the same thing that

(56:49):
[Erica] happened with movie theaters why doesn't anybody go to the movies anymore because it's going to be on streaming in six weeks And I have that already. Why would I go and pay $50 to go to a movie when I can just make myself some popcorn at home and watch it on my nice TV? And not be
[Alex] around people. I haven't gotten around to watching yet, but I think about something like The Iron Claw. That was on HBO Max within a couple months of being in

(57:12):
[Erica] theaters. I was teetering on the verge of just going to see Furiosa myself at the theater. And then I was like, you don't like going to the movies anymore, right?
[Alex] You know what? We should have gone. You know, me and you, because I think Bob doesn't give a shit, right? No. Me and you, you and I, if I could speak proper English, we should have gone and done that before I got my ear surgery because I'm just not.

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[Erica] I just think
[Alex] being in a movie theater. It probably wouldn't
[Erica] have been good for that. Loud ass
[Alex] sounds blasting in my ear right now just seems like a bad plan.
[Erica] Yeah, not a good idea.
[Alex] But we should have gone and done that like before I had the surgery because it would have lined up. But
[Erica] that's all right.
[Alex] um
[Erica] but no I had a moment where I was like the last couple times I think I saw that Miyazaki movie around Christmas and that was a fine experience but it also was like almost $40 because I was like well I'm gonna get popcorn

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[Alex] sure
[Erica] and then the time before that I think it was the shitty Jurassic World movie where I was laughing the whole time and very much pissing off the people next to me which I was like why are you not why
[Alex] are you not watching the same movie you're
[Erica] enjoying yourself so i was just like i think it just needs to be i we watch it at home we maybe have some people over and you kind of do it that way because i just know and i've talked about this this experience before it was when i went to the critical role one like a thursday they were doing a simulcast of like a live show that they had done and there were a bunch of people in the theater and there was the dude hacking the entire time, like six seats down from me. Everybody's talking the whole time and I get it. It's like, you feel like you're there and I was just sitting there and I'm like, I paid like $25 to sit in my version of hell. Why did I do this to myself? I could have watched this at home alone in the quiet.

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[Alex] You know, that just reminded me. Well, one, I was informed. I didn't look myself, but I was told that the Street Fighter movie is on Netflix. And that's one of the ones we're supposed to force the ghost of Bob to watch.
[Erica] That's yeah, we got to watch that.
[Alex] And do you remember the I believe the other one that somehow the ghost of Bob is never seen as RoboCop. Correct. Right. Yeah. And that's fucking criminal. Double feature. It should be. Let's fucking go. I think Bob I think the ghost of Bob actually kills himself for real about an hour in. I'm

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[Erica] sorry. That Street Fighter movie is a delight from start to finish. If you know what you're walking into.
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] If you're walking in expecting something, like,
[Alex] good. If you're expecting Scorsese, you will be disappointed. You'll be
[Erica] very disappointed. If you're expecting to be entertained, you're in for a good time.
[Alex] The Street Fighter animated movie is actually legitimately good.

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[Erica] Oh, no, yeah, I remember really enjoying that. Oh, and RoboCop? Oh, I haven't watched RoboCop in such a long time. That, we definitely gotta make sure Izzy's asleep for, though. That is a violent movie. Yes,
[Alex] violent, yes.
[Erica] What's that, Paul Verhoeven?
[Alex] Uh-huh.
[Erica] The same guy who did Starship Troopers?
[Alex] Yeah, I watched, I told you I watched that recently again, right? That was good, that's good.

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[Erica] He loves his ultra violence.
[Alex] I do like that. It's one of those, the idea of, oh, we're making fun of these people, you know, like we're making fun of the military industrial complex somehow didn't get through.
[Erica] Okay. Can I, can I tell you something? I've watched the first season of the boys. Oh yeah. We'll get back to the game fast stuff. Since we've last recorded and watching that and being like, were people about Homelander? that's upsetting do we not get what they're doing here

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[Alex] i think yeah they've definitely i could understand if you're an idiot it being it's more overt in the latest season how hard they're going on the right wing but they were going on the right wing from the start from jump
[Erica] yeah
[Alex] Maybe it was slightly more subtle. But the idea that Homelander was ever portrayed as anything but a monster. I mean, the thing with the plane. That's like in the second

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[Erica] episode. It's like the first or second episode.
[Alex] Yeah, and Maeve, Queen Maeve is like, you can help these people. You could save these people. And he's like, no, I can't. And I don't want to. Right. I don't care. Just
[Erica] the cool, just indifference. Oh, he's a great character, though.
[Alex] Oh, is it?
[Erica] And there's a difference. It's an
[Alex] incredible performance.

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[Erica] Between he's a great character and the performance is amazing. And we're not cheering for this guy.
[Alex] Yeah. Oh, no, he's in the first season. He's terrifying.
[Erica] chilling
[Alex] every scene he's in you're like everyone in this room is in imminent danger

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[Erica] he's got these micro expressions that he does even just with the way he moves his lips i'm like this is a master class
[Alex] oh yeah
[Erica] this guy is fucking great why isn't he in all of the things it's
[Alex] one of the all-time like tv character performances and i
[Erica] will tell you i'm enjoying is it uh dennis quaid and meg ryan's kid

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[Alex] Oh, yeah. What's his name?
[Erica] It's Huey on the show.
[Alex] Yeah. That sounds right.
[Erica] he's pretty good he's good i'm enjoying him
[Alex] everyone's good on the show i mean freaking
[Erica] carl urban's
[Alex] carl urban's and just unbelievable
[Erica] i'm enjoying him getting to use his accent that always makes me happy when they get that role he's having a blast
[Alex] every time i think of carl urban i'm smiling because it's like i'm just thinking of him playing judge dread and how hard they nailed it i was just gonna say that i always just think about that he's like you know was uh you're ready yeah do you look ready

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[Erica] That was like, it's unsung, I feel, but that was a perfect
[Alex] movie. Oh, it is. It's a straight up video game.
[Erica] Yep. Perfect. It's exactly what it says on the tin. We're not getting into all this big nonsense. Cersei Lannister's all hopped up on some nonsense and we just got to get to the top.
[Alex] She's at the top. She's in the boss room, but you got to fight all the minions on the way. Exactly. I am

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[Erica] the law. So good. So good. So good. I'm glad he's, he has a vehicle because he is a great actor and he never just,
[Alex] I love the end of that movie where he's like with the, he goes and talks to a superior or whatever. And you know, the, what is it? They ask him just like, is she a pass or fail? He just goes, she's a pass. Just walks off. Yeah.

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[Erica] I haven't watched that in a really long time. I just gotta like... I gotta sit down and just watch some action movies.
[Alex] I just like... See, I'm like a sucker where I like an action movie like that where it's just... We didn't overwrite this shit. We didn't layer in five hours of fucking dialogue that no one cares about.
[Erica] I'm nodding. We just have a

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[Alex] bunch of cool action and we have some cool character moments with some great one liners. Then you see what I've recalled is all the one liners. All I know is drug den mother at the top of the fucking tower. In control of this whole apartment complex. And Judge Dredd and his, you know, rookie with the psychic powers or whatever. She was psychic, right? Yeah. She could, like, invade your mind or something. I didn't need that

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[Erica] shit explained. She has psychic powers. Okay, let's go. We're off to the races. A few
[Alex] one-liners along the way. Great action. And that's it. Like, that's all I need. It's like Batman Begins. That's an action movie.
[Erica] well it doesn't have to be it has one it
[Alex] says some great one-liners that's what i remember
[Erica] it doesn't have to be everything to everybody it's just this is the movie it's an action movie a pure action movie we're not worried about romance or any of this other nonsense action that's what we're doing

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[Alex] yeah
[Erica] pure action and that's what i want well and even in
[Alex] like a romance most romances don't have endless fucking dialogue it's more the tension of the scenes right and the and kind of the electricity between but they
[Erica] feel like people want that quippy nonsense and the movie has movies can't be shorter than two and a half hours anymore i know they have to be two and a half hours like i know that fucking um Dark Tower movie or whatever was like terrible, but they said it was 90 minutes. And I was like, that's already four stars from me.

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[Alex] i'll watch that i'll watch that just because it's an hour and 30 minutes
[Erica] blink and it'll be done that's a beautiful thing because because it was like economy of story like it's it's we've got a time frame we've got to edit we've got to you've got to make choices and you have to make choices in service of the story and that's hard but it makes for better art think of that last season of stranger things did you watch that

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[Alex] yeah oh god it was fucking endless
[Erica] every episode was like an hour and a half and it was like four why
[Alex] an hour and a half some of them were longer than that they were all like feature-length movies
[Erica] were together like five hours long and it was like
[Alex] they just went on forever
[Erica] if i was inclined i could edit these down to an hour easy

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[Alex] I was going to talk about this later, but I'll bring it up for a moment now. You know, I've been playing all these gotcha games and, um, Nikkei is very, I would say kind of what more what you're talking about, more succinct with its dialogue. Like we're going to get to the point. We're going to tell some jokes. We're going to do whatever, but it's going to be like fairly, you can get through a scene in a couple

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[Erica] minutes. Get out. Let me get on with my life.
[Alex] These mihoyo gachas, you know, whether it's, this is one of the reasons I quit Genshin Impact like two weeks after it came out years ago, or Honkai Star Rail, or now there's Zenless Zone Zero, which you like the name of.
[Erica] Amazing name. Erica loves herself some alliteration.
[Alex] Honkai Star Rail and Genshin especially are known for what people politely describe as yapping. where oh just talking they're just it's a fucking non-stop and they'll talk about the same thing over and over and over and over again and you're like motherfucker i just want that cool chick with the big tits to take out her sword and cut a dude's head off

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[Erica] and i really don't that's
[Alex] what i'm here for i
[Erica] really don't think that's too much to ask get you back
[Alex] And there's
[Erica] beauty in brevity. Brevity is the soul of wit. I don't like and I know we're competing with a thousand other things and we feel like we've got to grab people's attention. But like the longer you go on, the more I'm just kind of like, do we really need this? Yeah. What are we doing? It's annoying. Like, why? For why? If you don't have a good for why, I'm just kind of like, I'm good, man. And

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[Alex] you know what? If you're, you know, Aaron Sorkin, and that dude, for all his weirdness, has a way with words. Sure. If you can write dialogue like that, you can fill a TV show with end-to-end
[Erica] dialogue. That's one thing.
[Alex] Not
[Erica] everyone is Aaron Sorkin.
[Alex] Yeah, most people aren't.

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[Erica] Right. the walk and talk love a walk and
[Alex] talk boy if you went back and watched the west wing now it'd be like oh this is quaint oh
[Erica] i would really rather not i didn't watch it then because i was like who could possibly care but anything veep go back and watch veep and you'd be like oh that's
[Alex] what a what a nice time this was from

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[Erica] izzy was watching i think she was i don't remember what fucking movie she put on but tony hale was in it and i'm just like oh tony hale you're just picking up a paycheck huh that's all right
[Alex] Whatever, whatever. Working actor Tony Hale. You make it work, buddy. Whatever brings in the cheddar. I
[Erica] think he does a fair amount of voiceover work
[Alex] now. I think Jon Stewart should be presidential candidate. I think he'd win. I think he'd win, Erica.

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[Erica] Okay. He wouldn't want that, though.
[Alex] I know. He's too smart. And he's Jewish. People hate Jews. Oh, that's true. That's a fair point.
[Erica] Right. I don't know if people might not... realize that about it no he's really
[Alex] no yeah i think it's pretty obvious
[Erica] i will never forget we were walking through oakbrook this was during like the primaries when it was bernie was still in the mix and i heard people talking about it and one guy goes but he's jewish and i was just like can we not say that so loud

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[Alex] i can't even believe this is a thing it's so wild Even when you're Jewish, who really, for the most part, can pass as white. Even when you're Jewish, you're still hated on as a minority. It's crazy. Why do people care? I just don't understand. I know this is some shit their parents drilled into them and just ruined them forever. But why do people care about the color of people's skin or what religion they follow or whatever?

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[Erica] i just
[Alex] don't get it i
[Erica] really wish i
[Alex] fundamentally cannot and like empathize i can't even speak anymore i'm so there's
[Erica] stuff that like even the generation before us some shit gets said and i'm just kind of like you listen to what you're just fucking like came out of your face
[Alex] Like, really? Oh, sometimes I interact with some old fucks and I just laugh in their face when they say, like, ridiculous shit and I just start dying. What are you fucking talking about? You sound like a stupid asshole right now and I don't need to pay you respect. I will laugh in your

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[Erica] face. Oh, no. If that shit comes out of people's mouths, it's just the estimation immediately tanks because it's just like, oh, okay. i know what you are now cool i'm more
[Alex] i'm more the type like i'll treat everyone with respect and until they you know show me otherwise oh sure once you show me otherwise i will immediately trash
[Erica] you i
[Alex] can't you know me erica i can't help myself i can't contain it

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[Erica] no it's all it's all right here for me you know but um
[Alex] see i think i think i've got a consistent like resting bitch face
[Erica] I do too. I have a, I do have resting bitch face, but if you, I can't play poker. I'll just say that. Can't play poker. Wouldn't work out well. I can't

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[Alex] play poker, but I could play Among Us. And that's kind of like poker in a sense. It's got a similar skill set. I think it's the key of being over the internet and not having people in front of me. Because if I was playing Among Us, let's just say for the sake of argument, we had eight people sitting in a room. Doing a LAN party type situation. Like on our phones, yeah, or something. i'd give myself away every time just the look on my face and like the joy the pure joy of fucking someone over it'd be too much to contain myself you know

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[Erica] correct yes
[Alex] but over the internet i could do it
[Erica] oh goodness
[Alex] um oh yeah so xbox so this is one of the funny things is when they were buying activision they claimed uh you know we're we want to buy activision but we're not going to raise the prices on game pass because we bought activision so anyways they bought activision and a couple months later they raised the price on game pass yeah so what they've done is they of course of

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[Erica] course they were going to do that
[Alex] we're shocked shocked shocked um so and you know there are
[Erica] people out there they're like but they said they weren't gonna do that and it's just like
[Alex] fanboys i know
[Erica] bud come on
[Alex] So here's the thing. I know you don't keep up on this stuff that close, but a little while ago, they eliminated Xbox Live Gold as a service. I

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[Erica] vaguely remember that.
[Alex] So what Gold was essentially at its core was you were paying for online multiplayer and you were paying for a few free games a month. And as long as your Xbox Live didn't expire, you just had those games in perpetuity.
[Bob] Mm-hmm.
[Alex] Well, what happened was when Game Pass came along, the games that were coming for free to gold got really bad because they just weren't going to go pay a bunch of money for games to be free on gold. Sure, which makes sense. They were funneling those funds into Game Pass stuff. Right.

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[Erica] I get
[Alex] that. So they ended up eliminating that service. And what there is now is called Game Pass Core. And what that service is essentially what Xbox Live Gold was. But instead of those couple free games a month, it's just a set like 15 or 20 free games that are just... games that are available on game pass but they just sit on xbox live core so like or game pass core there's no xbox live anymore um which is another this is like another total this is a tangent but microsoft spent so much time and money on the xbox live brand and then just one day decided flushed it all down we're not going to use that brand anymore like everybody knows xbox live And everyone still says Xbox Live, but it's actually not Xbox

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[Erica] Live. Well, that's like a certain other service that no one uses. That's the only thing we can deadname, Alex. That's the only deadname we're allowed to use.
[Alex] Apparently he's moving Twitter to Texas.
[Erica] Go ahead, motherfucker. Godspeed. Yeah, have fun.
[Alex] Oh,
[Erica] because California passed a bill protecting queer kids. We can't have it. Can't have it.

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[Alex] And one of his kids is transgender and like hates him or something.
[Erica] That's weird. I wonder why that is.
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] Do you imagine that that's your dad?
[Alex] Well, can you imagine that you're so evil that you're doing things to openly antagonize your transgender child?

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[Erica] I don't... I don't... This is the... Like, we were talking about, like...
[Alex] That's levels of evil I can't even, like,
[Erica] figure out. You don't get, like, people who care about the color of people's skin or their religion or anything. These people who are like, oh, that's my kid, but they're queer, so I don't want anything to do with them. Fuck them. What kind of a monster are you?
[Alex] Because usually what happens to most people, right? Like, you have the... Anti-abortion people, let's say. But when their kid suddenly needs an abortion, they're all on the abortion freight

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[Erica] train. Well, it's a DNC then. That's fine. That's okay.
[Alex] And I'm just giving one simple example, right? But the same thing usually happens with transgender kids is usually when someone's kid is transgender... All of a sudden, even if they were against transgender people, their mindset starts to change because unless you're just genuinely an unbelievably terrible person. And there's people like that out there. And there are those people. There are those people. Yeah, I'm not saying this applies to

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[Erica] everyone.
[Alex] Usually when it's your kid, your mindset changes.
[Erica] And it should. It should. Because there shouldn't be anything your kid could do that would make you stop loving them.
[Alex] But you're Elon and you're so evil that even with your kid being a certain way or being a certain thing.
[Erica] You're doubling down.
[Alex] You're still like, no, I'm still going to keep doing this evil shit. And I'm just going to make sure I never have any sort of relationship with my child. and and maybe part of that is elon's out there like impregnating every woman he's got like 50 000 kids right yeah i mean what does what does he care if one doesn't like him right you know that probably actually is the mindset like i've got like 15 of you oh yeah no 14 that fucking

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[Erica] nutbag thousand percent
[Alex] 14 of them like me
[Erica] maybe
[Alex] 13
[Erica] wait till they get old enough to realize you named me what what did you name me
[Alex] What was the one? What's my name? It was like a bunch of numbers and letters or something.
[Erica] You're like, what is wrong with you?
[Alex] The only good news is when your parent does that to you, you can just pick your own name. Because, I mean, no one's going to call you like XY Beta Alpha or whatever. No. But

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[Erica] then you get to be 18 and you can just fucking change it.
[Alex] um so yeah there's that xbox game pass core and that like i said is online multiplayer
[Erica] that's live basically
[Alex] right and it also has like 20 games that just sit on it so i don't know like maybe stuff like the master chief collection or something or whatever like just sit on there in perpetuity just like they do on regular game pass Well, now, instead of there being – so what there was, there was Xbox Game Pass. There were essentially three services. There was Xbox Game Pass, there was Game Pass Ultimate, and there was Game Pass PC. And what the difference was was essentially regular Game Pass was for console. And that included everything that was on Game Pass, but it didn't include cloud access. So if you want to play a game through the cloud on your tablet or phone or PC or something, you couldn't do that. So Ultimate was another tier where you had cloud, but it also had the Xbox Gold or Core games. membership built into it right so if you had ultimate you had online multiplayer whereas like technically if you wanted game pass you needed to have core and game pass ultimate is essentially both combined with some extra perks And it also was Game Pass PC built into it as well because Game Pass PC is its own separate thing, which is just whatever games are available on Game Pass PC, that's its own separate service, right? And there's some stuff that's on Game Pass PC that isn't on other Game Pass because they're not available on console, those games. Sure. So now they've eliminated, they've essentially like changed up some of these tiers. So game pass standard and ultimate are now very much changed in the sense that game pass standard will no longer get games day one on their service so

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[Erica] interesting
[Alex] if whatever let's say perfect dark comes out in a year or two or something you're
[Erica] not getting that you are
[Alex] not getting that on game pass standard and they haven't committed to any sort of time frame yet on when you will get it
[Erica] interesting
[Alex] so ultimate will still get it day one and but i
[Erica] would imagine ultimate's price has gone up

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[Alex] yes well the price has gone up on everything
[Erica] okay
[Alex] and here's the other kicker is game pass pc is still getting games day one and game pass pc costs less than game pass standard this goes back to what we were
[Erica] talking about a few episodes ago I was going to bring this up again, but go ahead. Does it make more sense for someone like you to just start?

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[Alex] Just be a PC gamer. Just
[Erica] be a PC guy.
[Alex] So that's essentially the big change. And then they raise prices across the board. So I think like essentially every tier of the service went up like $2 or $3 a month. Okay.
[Erica] Which I think if you are still using it.
[Alex] If you're using it, it's still an okay price. Sure. But like Ultimate is $20 a month. And at $20 a month, you better be playing games on that.

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[Erica] Yeah.
[Alex] you know and standards 15 i think game pass for pc is like 12 or something um you're also
[Erica] going to get to a point and i think we're kind of there where like who can afford all these different fucking subscription services
[Alex] well i mean i would say if you if you have game pass you maybe should be having one or two like netflix type services and Because when do you have the time?

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[Erica] Well, you should be playing games.
[Alex] When do you have the time? Because I find that's my thing with like TV or movies is people will be like, oh, you never watch this and you never watch that. Well, I take my free time and I play video games. If I don't play video games, well, sure, I could watch 10 hours of TV. But, you know, I just prefer to play video games.

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[Erica] Then every now and again, show comes along.
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] You know, we've got plans.
[Alex] Oh, yeah. You got
[Erica] to figure out when Yakuza comes out.
[Alex] Oh, well, you know what else I heard, Erica? I think I told you about this before, but this kind of came around again. Shift Up creators of Nikkei, Goddess of Victory, are apparently in negotiations with a major anime studio to make a Nikkei anime.

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[Erica] madhouse or trigger oh come on oh come on if
[Alex] it's trigger holy shit if it was trigger or madhouse that would just be like we're off to the moon yeah
[Erica] we're gonna have a good time we're watching i don't i don't
[Alex] believe that would actually happen i think it's more likely like maybe it'd be like mappa you know you roll out some more of the slave labor and just like put a few more people in the hospital but the end product would be great

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[Erica] oh yeah
[Alex] yeah so whatever um
[Erica] either way we win yeah
[Alex] I wish Nikkei would get a great anime, though, because it actually does have a really good story.
[Erica] Well, you would hope that if you're taking it seriously, right, and you're talking to major studios, let's go, you know? Let's go.
[Alex] So, where was I just at before that?

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[Erica] We were talking about switching to be a PC gamer.
[Alex] Oh, yeah. So, my... Yeah, I mean, my thing is... When you just start to, I've said this before, but when you start running the numbers at all, you know, the PC gaming stuff is much more of an upfront cost, right? Because if you want to build a real sweet PC, you probably got to spend, you know, $1,500, $2,000, whatever. Maybe even more if you really want to go crazy. And the upfront cost is definitely higher, but I'm starting to think the long-term cost in many ways is actually lower. One, just because you're not buying one or two consoles, but then you're also not getting the subscription service for them. If you have a PS5 or you have an Xbox Series X and you play games online, You have to get the service. You can't play online otherwise. Whereas if you're on PC, you don't have to have a subscription service to just use your PC online.

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[Erica] Right.
[Alex] So that eliminates that.
[Erica] That's 20 a month, right?
[Alex] i mean depending on the service you know like playstation plus their game pass equivalent is like a hundred dollars a year
[Erica] okay
[Alex] um you know ultimate again i'm not paying full price you know i pay like on average i pay something like five dollars a month so for me even if i'm not using it it's kind of like

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[Erica] it still makes five
[Alex] bucks
[Erica] a month well but you play a fair amount of
[Alex] games so yeah i have even
[Erica] if you take a break to do the ps5
[Alex] Right. So, you know, but if I start eliminating subscription services and I eliminate buying the consoles and everything. And there's really starting to become no reason to own an Xbox, unfortunately, because I like the Xbox. I like the interface. I like the way party chats work and all that. I was

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[Erica] going to say, that's where all your friends
[Alex] are, too. Yeah. Well, and that's another thing is, you know, all these systems now have fully integrated Discord. Oh, so just
[Erica] Discord chat. You
[Alex] can just, yeah, literally, like... I can be on a Discord chat on Xbox. You could be in a Discord chat on your phone or on your PC or whatever. Someone else can be on a Discord chat on PS5 and we can all just be in the same chat. I mean,

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[Erica] that's kind of
[Alex] cool. And that's real cool functionality. It works flawlessly pretty much. So, you know, they've kind of eliminated a lot of barriers in that way, thanks to doing that. It's becoming harder and harder to specifically justify owning an Xbox. And Sony, you know, it seems like their mindset is to bring multiplayer games to PC day and date with PS5 and then put their single player games on PC maybe a year or two after they come out. I'm not in any big rush. See, for me, I usually wait on most single-player games anyway because I just figure I'll let them patch the game to high heaven for six months to a year. Well,

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[Erica] and if you've seen the last, you know, I don't know, what would you say? A
[Alex] lot of games come out in bad state.
[Erica] Everything comes out as garbage day one, and you do have to give it time for them to patch shit and make it playable.
[Alex] Cyberpunk. What's wild is I saw, like, I think it was Ghost of Tsushima last month came to PC, like, on Steam. It was, like, the number two best-selling game of the month. Like, so that shows you how many people wanted to play that game that don't own a PlayStation, right? And those people waited. They weren't in any big rush. There's so many

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[Erica] games. So many games, so much shit.
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] There's so many TV shows, movies, movies. Games, like, you know, video and otherwise. Books, there's so much shit.
[Alex] And it's not even really fair to compare, but, you know, we've talked about this before on the show, and the Ghost of Bob and I were talking about it maybe a week ago. Video games are such an incomparable, not even a fair value to compare to anything else because the amount of value you could potentially extract out of a video game is unreal.

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[Erica] Like I think about how much time I spent in like
[Alex] Stardew Valley. Would you pay like 10 bucks for that game or something like
[Erica] that? Like that. And that guy's still updating it.
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] That's for free. That's
[Alex] bonkers. If you, if that was a movie, you would owe that guy like a thousand dollars. Yeah.
[Erica] more probably i think of the witcher 3 how much time i spent in that you know again over 100 hours or like a fallout i spent a ton of time in that too you know it's you can't there isn't a comparison and really they should have been raising the prices kind of

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[Alex] gradually
[Erica] gradually and not this sudden like oh fuck we need to like We need to be recouping. Well, and it's not even necessarily recouping our funds. It's making our stockholders happy and making record profits every quarter.
[Alex] And I've been playing the past few weeks, you know, Zenless Zone Zero came out, and it's like an action RPG from miHoYo. And I've been having a lot of fun, and I've spent zero dollars. And obviously, that's counteracted by the people who spend hundreds, if not thousands of dollars every time their new favorite waifu comes out. But, you know, it's like, it's a fully, yeah, it's a mobile game, but you know what? It's like fully featured. The graphics are really good. The animation works incredible and it controls really well, really tight. It has like a parrying and dodge system and you switch between different characters that kind of do different things. Like essentially the team setups are kind of like, it's like a, each team is like a three person squad and you switch between controlling all of them. And one is kind of like your damage unit where, One is a support that's usually, like, some sort of buffer or, like, debuffer on the enemy. And the other one will be a stunner. So, like, your goal in combat, basically, is to parry attacks and then stun the enemy. And when they're stunned, they take, like, double damage. And then you bring the attacker out and they lay into them, you know. It's just, like, it's got a really fun combat loop. Yeah. and it's it's good you know and it's like it sucks that it's layered in the gotchas thing where it's like well they're obviously going to try to fomo you and try to get you to spend money and everything sure but i'm you know for whatever reason you're good

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[Erica] at avoiding that
[Alex] pretty like resistant to the fomo stuff um it's just like a fun it's a fun game and you know that's another one if you look back on like big mistakes that were made Genshin Impact was actually shopped to Microsoft before it was shopped to Sony for, like, console exclusivity. And they turned it down. I mean, obviously, no one at the time knew Genshin Impact was going to be. Well, you didn't know what was going

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[Erica] to happen.
[Alex] No one knew it was going to be this, like, ridiculous juggernaut. But that's another, like, we fucked up moment for Microsoft. And it
[Erica] seems like there's a lot more of those.
[Alex] Oh, there's a lot more than the wins, for sure. Yeah. But yeah, my one complaint about Zenless Zone Zero is the first... four to five hours i was honestly starting to consider just skipping the story cut scenes and not because they were bad like the story that's there is like fun it's a little like corny enjoyable um but there was just so much of it like the game was too top heavy on story and you're like this combat's fun i want to play the combat and i feel like i'm playing like a kojima game right now where you're just like... It's like endless fucking dialogue and story and everything. Can I play, please? Can I take control back? I just want to hit the enemies, you know?

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[Erica] Let
[Alex] me hit things. So that was my one complaint. I've seen a lot of people with that complaint that the game's like... In the first five hours, four of it's probably story. And if you just... I mean, you could just skip over all of it. There's literally a skip
[Erica] button. Yeah, but it is likely. But
[Alex] then it's like, well...
[Erica] i do need to know i want to know what the story is why am i playing right

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[Alex] yeah and i think you could go back and re-watch it but it's like i kind of i don't know
[Erica] no i know we're here we're gonna do this it's fine
[Alex] so anyways it's a it's a fun game though um but yeah i mean that's what that's what ends up sucking up all the time and then there's very little time to go watch whatever tv show or whatever you know

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[Erica] No, I think everybody kind of has their thing, right? And for me, it kind of comes in waves because there was Hades and then I was playing the Witcher. I mean, I've been consistently watching Critical Role since like the pandemic started.
[Alex] The beginning of time. Yeah. Well, then watching the Witcher about 35 million times. You
[Erica] know, I was going to rewatch when the Ghost of Bob was gone this weekend, but I was like... You know what? No. I'm going to watch something new. The

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[Alex] Ghost of Bob had a nice time at the airport recently.
[Erica] So we... What was it? Monday? Monday, right?
[Alex] Something like that. We
[Erica] got... It was like, oh, hey. So the wrath of God in storm form is going to be descending upon the Chicagoland area.
[Alex] Well, you know what's funny is I noticed... on like you know your phone goes off and gives you the alert it was like extreme weather warning like this is not like uh we ain't playing this this tornado has touched ground yeah

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[Erica] yeah yeah well i was driving back i'd been at the library Bob had a flight and he was like, I really don't think this flight is happening. But I was like, it's midway. They'll get you there. Little did I know. So I'm driving back and I have the radio on. I listen to music pretty loud. And I'm like, what the fuck is that noise? Because it wasn't raining yet. It was a little windy. It wasn't raining yet. And then you couldn't even really see like, you know, you could see like the thunder and shit coming. Because we've had a couple derechoes of the last like couple years. And you could see that shit coming. And I'm like, is that the sirens going off? So I roll my window down. I turn this music down. I'm like, that's the fucking sirens. Shit.

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[Alex] How far were you from home? I
[Erica] wasn't super far. I was over by the park here. But I was just kind of like, let's just kind of ease down on that accelerator and get home. Well, my parents were watching Izzy because Bob had gone. He had this work thing. So and they had to leave super early the next morning because they were going away. And I was like, well, you guys can't leave. You're gonna get fucking blown away. Like, you gotta stay at least until, like... Did they

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[Alex] actually consider driving home?
[Erica] Oh, my mom was very eager to go home. She was very tired. So sleep on the... Sleep on the ground in the basement. No, that's what I was just like. We're curled up on the couch. Just... You guys gotta stay at least, like, a half an hour. And then it'll be fine. Just wait till it passes
[Alex] by.
[Erica] Those derechoes go by quick. And if we're still, like, here and not blown away, then you can drive home. Because I think something like ten tornadoes touched down in the Chicagoland area... So poor Bob is at Midway. And there was like a tornado sighted down there. They had them hiding in like the fucking bathrooms. And he was like, okay, they're telling me that the flight's going to leave at like midnight. And I'm like, okay, at least they're going to get you going. And he's like, there's no fucking way that we're leaving at Midway. So long story short, like I hear the garage, like I get notifications on my phone when the garage door opens. It's 4.30 in the morning. Oh, garage door is opening. I'm like, what the fuck? fuck like okay and sometimes you know i figured oh he probably landed he accidentally hit something because you can do it over whatever so i close it okay back to bed no opens again and i'm like all right do i gotta like get the baseball bat and go down and see what the fuck's going on uh so then it's him he comes i'm like what the fuck happened and he's just like the biggest shit show in the universe like he was on the plane they got them on a plane at like three in the morning and then they got on the intercom they're like oh yeah the pilot's timed out get off you guys gotta go home and bob was like i said this was going to happen at like seven o'clock this afternoon

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[Alex] How does that work? Is it like the pilot's been awake too long or just on duty too long? They
[Erica] only can be, I think, in the air. Or it can't be in the air. I think it's just there's a certain amount of time where, yeah. It must be on
[Alex] duty or
[Erica] something. Yeah. Which I get.
[Alex] Yeah. No, I mean, if I was their union, I'd negotiate that too. But

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[Erica] it's also like, okay, we know this flight isn't happening. Can we just fucking cancel it? You know?
[Alex] That's that airport bullshit where
[Erica] they don't want to
[Alex] cancel a flight.
[Erica] But no, there was a tornado down there. I have a friend that lives up by the other airport, O'Hare. There was a tornado up there. Oh,
[Alex] yeah. That tornado was getting around.
[Erica] Yeah. There were like 10 or something. I think one went just south of us. There was one, I think, that ended up going through like Addison. My brother lives in the city and he's in like a high rise. He's like the 19th floor or something. He's like, I'm just watching rotation up here. He's like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. But he said it was quite the show.

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[Alex] You pray that's what you do.
[Erica] I don't really do that, but maybe he
[Alex] did. You pray to whatever deity you believe in. The ghost of Joey Beatty, maybe.
[Erica] He's not dead. He's still alive.
[Alex] His spirit lives in all of
[Erica] us. Church Beatty. Let's do it. Let's get weird.
[Alex] That's the cult I want to join.

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[Erica] I'll join that cult, but we won't be weird about it. There's never
[Alex] any cool cults. Where's the cult of Pamela Anderson or something? You know what I mean? I can get into that. Give me some cool cults.
[Erica] Yeah, just none of this religious nonsense. Why are we
[Alex] worshiping the orange man? I don't know. Let's worship, I don't know, the cult of Sidney Sweeney. I'll join that cult. I
[Erica] don't think I know who that is.

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[Alex] She's an actress. She's hot.
[Erica] Is she an actress? No, no, she's an actress. Oh, yeah, she's an actress. No,
[Alex] she's been in, she's on that, I haven't ever watched it, but she's on that Euphoria show with Zendaya.
[Erica] Oh, okay,
[Alex] okay. Zendaya? How do you say it?
[Erica] idea i'm white anyway she's been in some other
[Alex] tv shows and movies and stuff um but yeah i mean i don't know i did stuff with the tornado it's so funny because i think we're so conditioned to it right you're like look okay i was

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[Erica] the bob is it oh it's very funny oh
[Alex] really what does he what does he do well i
[Erica] mean he grew up back east so i guess they didn't really get a lot of like that out there me i'm like in a Um, so he's like, well, where, where do we go? I'm like, well, you go in the bathroom down here and you just kind of hang out and you hope for the best. Or like we did the one time you were here.

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[Alex] Yeah. Where the tornado just went north
[Erica] of us. Just sit and you hope for the best.
[Alex] That shit was a good one too. Cause there were some bushes in your backyard that looked like they were about to get. I remember you
[Erica] looking out the window and going like, no, it looks pretty bad. And then the phones all went off.
[Alex] The fricking, the fricking like, uh, the one tree trees are like sideways. It's like,

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[Erica] Hmm. let's go grab like a lot of wind not great not great bob
[Alex] so so he's
[Erica] like we should get a bunker we should do like a bunker in the garage and i'm like we are absolutely not doing that
[Alex] a bunker like what you like you in the ground yeah
[Erica] to protect us i
[Alex] think you should do
[Erica] that no
[Alex] that sounds like a pretty good
[Erica] absolutely not
[Alex] you that could be like your uh like your nuclear fall yeah that's a little bit

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[Erica] too close to that nonsense and we ain't doing any of that
[Alex] I mean, it'd be pretty cool to have a shelter in the garage. I'm just saying like a secret hiding place. It could be like where you play your video games or you hide from Izzy when she's older.
[Erica] She's going to want to hide from us. Poor thing. She'd be like, video games. You guys are
[Alex] dorks.

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[Erica] But I was like, nah, man. You just hide in the basement and you hope for the fucking best.
[Alex] That's the thing. I just sit there and it's like, well, whatever. You know, you kind of look at the radar and you wait for it to pass. My friend
[Erica] Christy was like, because they were up in Roselle, and she's like, yeah, I heard it. I didn't really give a fuck. I didn't get out of bed. I'm like, okay, man. That's valid as well.
[Alex] Well, and to a degree, I get it. Because... If the tornado hits your house, you're probably fucked.

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[Erica] For the most part. I
[Alex] mean, I know it's like, okay, you get in the basement or you get in the bathroom or whatever. But let's be honest. That tornado wants to get you. If
[Erica] it's like. You're going
[Alex] to get got.
[Erica] You've never seen it miss this house and miss that house and come after you. Twister is a great movie, Alex. And I'm still a little salty. They're doing a sequel.
[Alex] They shouldn't. They

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[Erica] are. It's coming out on
[Alex] Friday. You know what else shouldn't be getting a sequel?
[Erica] Lots of things.
[Alex] Gladiator.
[Erica] We haven't talked about that, have we?
[Alex] No.
[Erica] Why? Hey, I'm glad Pedro and I think Denzel are getting checks. That's great. That's
[Alex] such weird casting, Denzel. That is such weird casting for that movie.

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[Erica] You know what? Go for it. You know why you do it? Piss a certain subsect of the population off.
[Alex] I guess.
[Erica] Is he like Caesar or something?
[Alex] No, he's not Caesar. I think he's supposed to be playing that role of the slave owner from the first one. That's what it seemed like in the trailer anyway. I just saw the trailer.
[Erica] Because I'm just like, why? And I like Pedro.

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[Alex] No, I think Pedro is Caesar.
[Erica] Pedro's a big fan, but... I just don't understand why we're doing this over 20 years later. Well, and they
[Alex] brought back, what's her name? Is it Connie Nielsen or something? I know, yeah. She was the mother in the first movie, right? You know, the sister he wanted to fuck so bad. Which, you know, whatever. I get it. You're back in that time frame. She's hot.

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[Erica] Hey, man, you're nuts. It's cool.
[Alex] You're out of your mind. Oh, my God, they're so
[Erica] hot.
[Alex] Oh, my God. Let's just watch that.
[Erica] I haven't watched that in forever. Oh,
[Alex] that's such a great movie. Oh, I think we have it in 4K. Joaquin Phoenix is unbelievable in that movie. That's just a good
[Erica] time. That's a fun movie.
[Alex] Smile for me now,
[Erica] brother.

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[Alex] Something just got it there. So good. Yeah. I mean, so anyways, I just don't understand, especially after all this time.
[Erica] Well, and calling it Gladiator 2. What's it been,
[Alex] like 15 years or something?
[Erica] It came out in like 2000. Well,
[Alex] that's the other thing. By calling it Gladiator 2, you're putting all these expectations on it.
[Erica] Yeah.
[Alex] Apparently...
[Erica] Why can't we just like... Don't even call it Gladiator. Just do another Gladiator movie.

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[Alex] Apparently, at some point... There was talk of doing a Gladiator sequel a long time ago that like Russell Crowe was all about. And they wrote, they had a screenplay written and everything, but it didn't end up getting happening. It happened, but I can't even speak anymore. Um, It ended up not happening, but it was essentially God of War. Like, it was something like some god had yanked fucking, you know, whatever, Maximus out of... heaven or wherever the hell he was

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[Erica] steadily getting more angry that we could have had like a god of war-esque movie and
[Alex] he went on it was like he got plucked out of wherever after whatever afterlife he was in to go essentially kill a bunch of gods or something like you know whatever it was it was god of war it was literally god of
[Erica] war to go to there why not do that now i

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[Alex] mean it sounds better than this
[Erica] I don't know what the plot is. I know there's a couple people in there that I enjoy, but I'm just kind of like, why would I ever watch this? I'll just watch the first one. The first one's like a perfect movie. It's
[Alex] one of those, maybe if it pops up on a Netflix or something one day and I'm bored, but there's no way I would go to the
[Erica] theater. I've got to hear some good stuff about it from people I trust. Because you know it's going to be like five hours long. And who's got the fucking time?

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[Alex] I mean...
[Erica] Though I think the one dude from Stranger Things is in there too, isn't he? Joseph Quinn? Who's that? He was Eddie in that last season.
[Alex] Who's Eddie? The guy who played the guitar. Gets ganked. I can't picture him, but I know who you're talking about.
[Erica] I think I saw that he's... I appreciate he's getting all this work off of Stranger Things. And it's going to be really funny when they don't bring him back in that last season and everyone's really fucking mad about it.

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[Alex] It was funny when between one of those seasons of Stranger Things, all the kids got way older. But in storyline, almost no time had passed. But the kids had grown like three years. It was like the freaking Witcher thing where what's her
[Erica] face? Oh, Ciri aged. It looked like she aged like 10 years in between season one and season two. Well, I think the Stranger Things seasons, because of COVID or something, they were like stupidly far apart. It had to be like three or four years.

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[Alex] Another one that you should, I mean, whatever, who cares. But, you know, on the boys, I don't know her name, but whoever plays Starlight. It's just like, you know, a kind of a normal
[Erica] girl next door. Yeah.
[Alex] Cute looking girl. Right. She's not like a supermodel or something, but she's just a cute looking girl. Well, between I don't know. I can't remember exactly when it happened. It might have been seasons like two to three. Oh,

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[Erica] is there unfortunate plastic surgery? She got
[Alex] some weird work done or something. And she looks so weird. bad now erica that's upsetting like really bad i
[Erica] don't understand why people do that to their i don't
[Alex] i didn't these plastic surgeons you know what i get it you want the work right you like money but you shouldn't be doing things that are objectively bad right this isn't like someone came in and they want some boob job but you know what even a good plastic surgeon is gonna

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[Erica] three years between seasons on stranger things
[Alex] even even a good A good plastic surgeon still isn't going to do the most ridiculous boob job just because they're getting paid. No, it should be like... They're not going to be like...
[Erica] We're going to try and make this look as natural as possible.
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] I mean, some, some people, now they're getting like the, what do you call it, like the cheek fat taken out.

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[Alex] Oh, maybe that's what she did. She has a real sucked in look.
[Erica] Yeah, that's what it is. They take out like your subdermal fat here.
[Alex] Why?
[Erica] Because you can't look fat, Alex. Your face looks fat. That's bad. That's bad. That's fucking unfortunate.
[Alex] But doesn't, don't you feel like, don't you feel like kind of like the baby fat in the face makes people look younger? Yes. You know what I mean? Like usually when you get that sucked in look, that's when you start to look older. You

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[Erica] look like Skeletor. Yeah. Looks bad. But a bunch of people are convinced that it's going to look great. And just the older you get, it's going to just fucking look terrible. But then you got to go in for more surgery. No, baby. What did you do to yourself? Erica's looking at this actress

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[Alex] before an actor. She
[Erica] fucked up her nose.
[Alex] It's so bad. It's
[Erica] unreal. She fucked up her lips. Oh, she looks like she definitely got the cheek thing. And maybe even did some shaving. Why? She was so cute before.
[Alex] It's unbelievable. And

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[Erica] now you just look terrible.
[Alex] Just age gracefully. She's not even old. She's not even old. That's really upsetting. She looks like a
[Erica] completely different person. She's probably
[Alex] not even 35 and she looks like she's like 50.
[Erica] It just looks like you're trying too hard, right?
[Alex] Yeah, I don't know.
[Erica] Babe. That's unfortunate.

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[Alex] I feel like the face is one of those things, especially when that's your... That's going to be like,
[Erica] really like...
[Alex] When that's your moneymaker too... Because let's just be real. You're a woman in Hollywood. Your looks are a big part of it. Just like for a lot of these guys, too. I mean, do people think Brad Pitt got really popular just because he was a good actor? No, he got really popular because he was fucking hot, too. Right?

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[Erica] That's why we excuse a lot of things as well. Alleged
[Alex] things. What? For Brad Pitt? What do
[Erica] you do? Don't worry about it.
[Alex] Oh, okay. I don't even know.
[Erica] He's a fucking monster, too.
[Alex] um
[Erica] so say there's a reason the kid doesn't want to have the last name
[Alex] hmm you see i don't even know about that
[Erica] always a reason alex
[Alex] is is it i mean maybe he's like the it's not the leonardo dicaprio thing right where it's like oh the moment you hit like 23 no no no

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[Erica] no allegedly he's an abusive asshole
[Alex] oh great yeah that's nice
[Erica] it's good times
[Alex] i like the leo thing because that's more like good fun like anytime you're his girlfriend and you hit 23 it's like okay
[Erica] It's fun to poke fun at, though, because it's like, well, I don't really do that. It's like, oh, but buddy.
[Alex] History. History would say otherwise. But
[Erica] you do.

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[Alex] I'm like, look. If that's what you want to do, he's not doing anything wrong. I mean, it's weird. No, whatever. But it's
[Erica] funny and we're going to make fun of you for it. Yeah, you're going to get made fun of. Right. And you
[Alex] know what? You're just going to have to cry into your mountain of money.
[Erica] Right. Oh, that's going to take me like when she shows up on that show.
[Alex] Oh, it's so bad.
[Erica] And it's like she looks, you can't even tell she's the same person. It's going to be like, who is this new character that they recast? Why did they

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[Alex] recast Starlight? Right? Maybe she got killed and they did recast her.
[Erica] Oh, okay.
[Alex] But they found like Skeletor to play her. Maybe, maybe. You know?
[Erica] I just, because you don't, like, your face is recognizable, right? And it's like, this is who I, that's your brand. That's a completely different looking person.

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[Alex] See, I just think if you're, again, especially if you're a real big actor or actress, like, think about George Clooney. I mean, yeah, he obviously looks older than he used to, but he still looks like George Clooney.
[Erica] Right.
[Alex] And you look, I don't know, I would give like female examples. Think of like Julia Roberts. I mean...

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[Erica] Jennifer Aniston.
[Alex] Yeah, well, I mean, Jennifer Aniston's like, that's like unfair to compare other women to what's happened. I don't know what the fuck's going on with Jennifer Aniston. Does she have the
[Erica] Paul Rudd pact with the devil? Yeah, I
[Alex] don't know if she's taken dips into the fountain of youth or...
[Erica] bathing in the blood of virgins what's
[Alex] going on but it doesn't make any sense because she's like 55 and she looks like she's 40 it's it's actually ridiculous well it's like why

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[Erica] aren't we if she is going to a surgeon why aren't we going to that surgeon
[Alex] Well, and I always say if she's going to a surgeon and she let – Courtney Cox is another one. You know what Courtney Cox looks like now? Yeah. And they're friends. Yeah. Like if she's going to a plastic surgeon and she let Courtney Cox do what she did, that's criminal friendship-like abuse. Yeah. You should be you should be stepping in like, listen to me, listen to me. Don't go to that doctor. Go to this doctor over here. Come

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[Erica] to my guy.
[Alex] But maybe she's just, you know, got incredible genetics. Some people just have unbelievable genetics. Right.
[Erica] Right.
[Alex] And then and then the other thing is. I actually saw like a little bit of a podcast where Jessica Alba talked about this. And the podcaster was like, you still look like incredible, but you're like 45 or something. Like, what's your secret? And she's like, well, you know, I have no stress. I work out like crazy and I have a cook that cooks for me.

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[Erica] So it's like... I'm a rich person. We're not
[Alex] exactly... So it's like... This
[Erica] isn't rocket science.
[Alex] You already came out of the gate, right? With incredible genetics, right? Sure. You're Jessica Alda. But then on top of that, you've been perfectly taken care of. So of course you're going to look younger longer.
[Erica] Well, I also think part of the problem is that everyone in our society is so terrified of getting older. Yeah. That it's like, oh my God, if you're old, you just look terrible. And it's like...

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[Alex] not really oh like some of these people i mean i don't know like someone like a susan sarandon i don't think she ever got any work done she just let herself age like
[Erica] meryl streep
[Alex] father time is undefeated right she you know he's coming for us all
[Erica] motherfucker i just don't get it that's fucking unfortunate no that's

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[Alex] criminal and that's another that's what i mean though I don't know what back alley plastic surgeon you went to, but anyone with any credibility would not even be willing. But I think
[Erica] it's just a matter of I'm famous. I have money. This is what I want done. So do it. Right.
[Alex] I just don't. I just don't think like if you went to a really good plastic surgeon who probably has like tons of work already.

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[Erica] You would hope that they would be like, don't do this to your body. And the
[Alex] other thing is, is any work you do as a plastic surgeon. That's like an advertisement, whether good or bad. Agreed. Right. So if she goes around and she tells everybody, hey, this plastic surgeon over here in Beverly Hills ruined me. That's going to hurt that person's business.

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[Erica] She probably doesn't think she looks ruined.
[Alex] I mean, you know, if I wish I had her mental health, then
[Erica] she looks terrible. I mean, whatever. It's your body. Do what you want to it. But she was really cute before. And now you just look you look like a fucking Kardashian.
[Alex] I don't think even the Kardashians would get that
[Erica] work done. They've had the fat stuff done, too.

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[Alex] I like the shots of Kim from behind where she literally has a bumblebee's ass. Her ass is like... It's like they took her hips and then molded on pillow cushions. It's like no one could possibly think this looks good, right? And she's another one, Kim Kardashian. She should have just let herself age. Like, when she was, like, 25, she was, like, a 10. Just let yourself

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[Erica] age. Don't understand the immediate, like, oh, I've got a wrinkle. I've got to go and, like, destroy my face. I don't get that.
[Alex] i mean i don't i don't know i get that not everyone wins the genetic lottery but most you know well-known hollywood actresses they won the genetic i feel like though
[Erica] there's some subtle stuff you can do without just destroying your face and

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[Alex] i think that's what if jennifer aniston someone like that did have anything done it was so subtle that no one would ever know except her and her doctor
[Erica] right oh yeah i'm gonna be watching the show and i'm just gonna be like yeah
[Alex] I think it happens between seasons two and three.
[Erica] Okay.
[Alex] It definitely is there in four. For sure.

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[Erica] How are you finding that? Because it's... It's fine. It's fine. It's fine.
[Alex] You know what? I've been... I told you about it before, but I've been watching that anime, Freerun, Beyond Journey Zen. Oh, yeah. That's really good.
[Erica] enjoying yourself yeah
[Alex] it's only one season i mean i know the recommendations don't work but if you'd like to it sounded like the
[Erica] kind of thing i would be into i mean i do probably i'll probably finish up the boys because i think the fourth season ends like this week might

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[Alex] be yeah i'm only like one or two episodes behind
[Erica] and it's what like eight episodes
[Alex] Yeah, they're like eight episodes. You can bang
[Erica] through that pretty quickly. And
[Alex] the spinoff show was pretty good, too. Gen V.
[Erica] Oh,
[Alex] yeah. I think it was Gen V. Yeah, that sounds right.
[Erica] Oh, they also jump scared me with fucking Simon Pegg with an American accent. I was like, whoa, the fuck? This is terrible.

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[Alex] How are you finding the boys so far? I'm
[Erica] enjoying it. I can see where the ultraviolence is going.
[Alex] It gets old. Gonna
[Erica] wear a bit thin.
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] Like I said, I think Homelander, I really enjoy all of the characters. I think everybody's pretty well-rounded. Homelander is legitimately terrifying.
[Alex] There's a lot of good performances on the show, but the Homelander performance stands

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[Erica] alone. Top tier. I giggled like a schoolgirl when Giancarlo Esposito showed up because I did not realize he was on the show. And I adore him. I'm a big fan of like normie dude punching like way above his weight. And it's like constantly just in like...
[Alex] bad situations bad situations where it's like

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[Erica] your ass could die at any minute but clearly he makes it to like the fourth season but um and it's a it's a cool take on superheroes and i do like just the constant ribbing of like marvel in dc
[Alex] Well, look, it is the reality of what would actually happen if there were superheroes. Oh, thousands of percent. Like,
[Erica] when they... What was it? The Deep? The Aquaman guy? When he just drops the fucking trowel and he's jerking off in front of her? I was like, oh, yeah, that's about right. That's where we are. I

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[Alex] can't remember the first season. Doesn't he, like, force himself on her or something, too? Or...
[Erica] He kind of forces her to, I think, blow him. I think is what ends up happening. Is that what ends up happening? They don't show it, but he's like, if you don't do this, you're going to get kicked out of the 7th. Yeah. Or whatever. I

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[Alex] remember something like that.
[Erica] Yeah. And it was like, oh, we're just starting here. Okay. Oh,
[Alex] yeah. They're all terrible people.
[Erica] I will say I am not a huge fan of the constant onslaught of sexual assaults.
[Alex] Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a lot.
[Erica] Yeah. It's
[Alex] not like Outlander levels, but it's there. What they did is they took all the sexual assaults from Outlander, put it in the boys, but then they eliminated half the sexual assaults and just replaced it with ultraviolence.

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[Erica] I mean, and I appreciate that they're not... showing it to you you know it's just kind of implied like i don't need to see this stuff you know makes me not a fan but you know and it is a it's it's a it's a spicy condiment and you need to kind of be uh what do you call it selective yeah so we'll see where it goes but i'm enjoying it And it is, like you said, it isn't anybody. It's all horrible people.

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[Alex] Oh, yeah. Who are doing it. No, there's no. Even the good guys are bad people.
[Erica] Oh, no. Yeah. Which I also appreciate. Carl
[Alex] Urban's a total piece of shit. Oh, yeah.
[Erica] But it's like, I like that because in that sort of a system, you have to be a bad person if you're going to, like, make any kind of a dent.
[Alex] What does he tell Huey in the first episode? They're in, like, the Radio Shack or something. He's like, I'm not exactly a fad.

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[Erica] It's the blatant lying. No, it's fun. No. And I like, uh, yeah, no, I'm enjoying myself thoroughly. Like all the characters, uh, I'm doing this, uh, get started on season two.
[Alex] Yeah, I'm trying to think. On the seven, like, Queen Maeve is probably, like, the least bad person. The least terrible. But she's still a monster.

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[Erica] Yeah.
[Alex] I mean, well, maybe not a monster, but she's definitely not a good person.
[Erica] Well, they're all... You've gotten there, so you're all compromised in some way.
[Alex] Yeah.
[Erica] Right? And you've done some terrible things. Like, she could have done something to maybe save that mom and that kid on the plane, but she left him behind just like Homelander did.
[Alex] Yeah. Well, and... I mean, you're in that spot where you're there with, like, an unbelievably evil man with every superpower under the sun. And if you just, you're walking on eggshells, right? Because you do anything wrong at all and you just lop your head off. Yep. So.

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[Erica] Oh, any of those scenes where he, like, calls another one of them in, like, one of the other Supes, and they're just kind of like, oh, fuck. This is it. I'm going to die. Great. Wonderful. Yeah. I like that menace that's good to have kind of throughout the whole thing. So we'll see. We'll see how it goes. Because I have heard... Multiple people say in the season four that they're like, it's getting a little old. I think next season is it, right?

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[Alex] Well, I think the problem is it feels like I can, without like spoiling anything, it feels like season four is just, we're just dragging things out and there's no plot development and it's just ultra violence, ultra violence, but nothing's really happening around the endless violence. Okay. so you're just kind of in this holding pattern it's like okay i i get it like we want to like show some wacky horse shit or like some you know super villain with a giant dick that can be wrapped around someone's head like a tentacle or something like you know is doing some weird shit it's everything the showrunner wanted to do

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[Erica] on supernatural but he couldn't because it was network tv
[Alex] yeah and then we chop it off or whatever like it's like it's like they do this shit every episode but at the same time can we have some plot development sure and not that type of plot the actual plot
[Erica] right where are the characters going right now i think i read next season is it right
[Alex] i think i heard five is it yeah

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[Erica] And with something like that, you do, there's a real danger of overstaying your welcome, right? So, it is kind of like, all right, let's get in, let's get out. And, I mean, to be honest, five seasons on a streaming service is impressive.
[Alex] Yeah, well, and that's also kind of been one of their flagship shows. Sure, sure.

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[Erica] And it's fun. I'm enjoying myself.
[Alex] Yeah. So... Is there anything else going on? I feel like I had another topic, but I've completely forgotten it.
[Erica] I'm trying to think. I haven't really that. I watched that over the weekend. Yeah, I had a horrible bout of insomnia. Was it Friday night, I think? Oh, really? I could not fucking fall asleep. At one point, I was just kind of like, all right, let me just flip something the fuck on. I was like, I've been wanting to watch The Boys. Let me just flip the first episode of that on and whatever. And I think I got through four and then I finally like dozed off, which was amazing. The next day was a lot of fun.

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[Alex] You know what was crazy? I don't know what goes on. But I had on Monday, I had to go back to see the ear surgeon for like a follow up. And the appointment was at 715. You know, I usually go to bed at like three. So I was like, you know what?

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[Erica] Let me nuke my sleep schedule.
[Alex] actually it's been fine yeah but i was like you know i
[Erica] noticed you were yawning and i'm like it's like 10 what the fuck's going on
[Alex] oh no usually it's me i'm fine
[Erica] okay
[Alex] um no but i just thought you know what i'll just stay up because what am i gonna do sleep for three hours and i'm gonna i'm gonna feel terrible you're not

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[Erica] gonna go to bed you're gonna be like oh i need to be up and you're yeah you're not gonna get to sleep
[Alex] So I just decided to just power through and stay up and it was fine. And I came home and I, you know, afterwards I went to bed and I probably slept till like 2 PM. I was just like, you know, it'll be fine. Right. And it was the next day. It was fine. I, my sleep schedule wasn't affected, but, um, what I was blown away by, I don't know. I would love to know what goddamn time do doctors actually start? Because I get there at seven 15, right? I walk in, There's nobody in the waiting room. And I'm figuring.

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[Erica] I'm the first. I have
[Alex] to be the first person, right? And when I scheduled this, he picked the time and I bring it to his nurse and the nurse says, well, I guess I'm going to be a morning person. So that made me think. Yeah. He's got a
[Erica] tea time to get to or he's got surgery or something.

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[Alex] Well, that made me think. I must be first, right? Like this has to be like he's scheduling me before his normal start time or something just to get me in. So I go in there. There's nobody in the waiting room. I check in. I sit down. They eventually take me back maybe 10, 15 minutes later. And then I sit in the room for like half an hour before he finally comes in.

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[Erica] That shit makes me crazy.
[Alex] So I guess I wasn't the first person.
[Erica] There's definitely somebody else in there.
[Alex] And I'm just thinking, when does this dude start?
[Erica] They
[Alex] start
[Erica] early. I was talking to we had to go. Izzy had a follow up or just her annual follow up with the guy who did some of her surgery when she was younger. And we were chatting because he lives in the western suburbs. And I was like, yeah, how about that weather? And he was like, yeah, I slept through it. I had surgery at 5 a.m. that day. So I did not even register. I was like, hey, that's fair, man.

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[Alex] I just was, yeah. And then when I'm finally left, I walk out, there's like 15 people in the waiting room. But I only, I knew because before they brought me back, someone else came and checked in and they were like, my doctor, they go doctor or so-and-so. He's about half an hour behind, just so you know. I was like, it's 7.15 and this guy is half an hour behind? Yeah. Like, how can it be?

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[Erica] Nothing annoys me more than when they bring you back to the little room and you end up like sitting for more than like 15 minutes.
[Alex] One time I went there, I was waiting an hour and a half past my time. So, yeah. That
[Erica] happened once when I was pregnant. Bob came with me, and it was just... Oh, I'm
[Alex] sure Bob must have been in a real good
[Erica] mood. Oh, yeah. He was really... He had his laptop with him, though, because I was just like, sometimes they make you wait. He was like, let me just bring my thing then. We were back there for so fucking long. And I was just kind of like, they're literally just going to come here and like, we're going to have a conversation. They're going to like take some vitals and it's going to be five minutes. And it was, which made Bob even more enraged. But it was just like, guys, are you serious?

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[Alex] And I know what the deal is, right? It's clearly the hospital is way over scheduling.
[Erica] Yes.
[Alex] And I,
[Erica] That was the problem with Loyola. We were with them before and then we had to change. But they were vastly understaffed. They were double booking appointments. And we just got to a point where it was like, no, we're not doing this anymore.

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[Alex] But it's got to be like that everywhere, right?
[Erica] I think they're particularly bad. I was talking to my new doctor and she had come from there and she was just like, no, yeah, it's gnarly over there. Doctors would leave and they wouldn't backfill the positions. And I was just like, all right, well, you guys are just going to have to figure it out. So all you're going to do is burn out a bunch of people and then have a crisis in five years where you don't have enough doctors, which is fun.

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[Alex] That's fun for everybody. Oh, yeah. Patients and doctors. Yeah, it's great.
[Erica] Love it. Everything okay?
[Alex] Yeah. I mean, just, like, sucked some more of the stuff out of my ear. Whatever was in there, right? You hear it
[Erica] all
[Alex] or still a little? It's about the same, really. Just waiting. You know, I go back in two and a half months to have the hearing tested. Okay. So I have a better idea then. Nice. You know... It's still healing. That's all he said. Oh, no, yeah. I mean, it's only been, what, a couple months? It's been like a month and a half.

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[Erica] Okay.
[Alex] So, no, that makes sense. It takes time, right? I don't know. As of right now, I don't have any sort of ill effects coming off the surgery. I mean, that's all you can ask for. Even if the hearing isn't incredible or anything afterwards, it's like, I tried. But you were never
[Erica] expecting it to be incredible. No, no, no. It was

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[Alex] never going to be normal hearing. Yeah. But even if there isn't some like noticeable restoration of hearing, at least I haven't as of now. Right. There hasn't been anything. Who knows what could happen. But as of now, there's no sort of problem. Right. It's all good. So I'm happy at the moment. We'll see how it looks in two and a half months. Hopefully I remember that appointment.

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[Erica] You don't put stuff right in your phone?
[Alex] well i do but i was gonna say yeah i have
[Erica] several alarms and it's just like yeah it's got to be written down if it's not written down it's not happening
[Alex] but uh i'm thinking maybe that appointment's at 2 30 in the afternoon and so i'm thinking maybe i bring an encyclopedia or something you know just to pass the time

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[Erica] because then it's going to be at least three hours before he gets to you
[Alex] I should really bring like a, I'm going to borrow your switch. I bring a switch. I'll just be playing the switch in the waiting room. Whatever time I come here, guys, I wait two hours.
[Erica] Anytime I go to the doctor, I bring a book and I make sure my phone's charged. Cause I'm just kind of like, though the new, the new folks get to you pretty quickly, which is nice.

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[Alex] Some places are good. The, the, the, the ENT I've been going to. They're great. I mean, sometimes I'll be out of there in 10 minutes. I love that. It's just office to office, right, and how much they're scheduling and everything. I mean, I get it. It's like for a surgeon, that's how they make a lot of money, right, is getting a lot of patients booked and everything. Oh, yeah. So try to get as many surgeries as possible. That's how they're making all their money. So I understand the reasoning, but it still sucks when you're sitting there forever. But as long as I have a good result in the end, I'll sit around for a couple hours.

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[Erica] Did you end up watching season three of The Bear?
[Alex] Not yet.
[Erica] I haven't either. Okay.
[Alex] No, we could talk about that in the podcast at some point, but I haven't started yet. No,
[Erica] I haven't either. The initial reactions from people, I was just kind of like, oh, okay. I'll get to it when I get to it then.
[Alex] i kind of it's only there's only been two episodes airing but i i uh showed erica a clip from an anime it's like my dear friend d-e-r d-e-e-r i

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[Erica] didn't catch that at first dear
[Alex] friend konica or something i don't know what the name was but it just looks hilarious pretty
[Erica] ridiculous yeah
[Alex] It's a girl who's also a deer. She's
[Erica] got antlers.
[Alex] Yeah. And she has apparently a problem with twisting her head to get through doorways.
[Erica] That's the show. Alex will watch more and report back.

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[Alex] Hey, come on. That clip's funny.
[Erica] It was very funny.
[Alex] She's like Godzilla.
[Erica] Oh, have you seen Godzilla minus one? I have not. I heard that's great. I always outstanding. We watched it on Netflix maybe about a month ago. dug the hell out of it they use that because you've got that godzilla music that they use in the japanese movies okay that certain like sting and they use it to great effect in the new movie i like made me clap my hands like a child

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[Alex] i saw um i saw in wwe uh raya raya ripley's back to enact her revenge on live morgan for taking her title and her man
[Erica] I was going to say, I feel like, was it Forbidden Door happened? And we were going to watch that?
[Alex] Whenever you want to watch it.
[Erica] We'll hook that up.

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[Alex] Well, that's good that
[Erica] she's back. WrestleMania has been, it's been a minute ago now.
[Alex] Yeah, it's been a while. That's usually March or April, right? Yeah,
[Erica] like beginning right around there.
[Alex] We're well beyond that at this point.
[Erica] Are we just, like, we're just reaching for topics now?
[Alex] No, I mean, I'm just talking. Whatever. If you're ready to stop, we can stop, Erica. You done with me?

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[Erica] No, I'm not done with you.
[Alex] No, but I just saw, like, on... So WWE's doing, like, kind of a partnership with TNA lately where they're using some of their talent. And what's funny is they're treating the TNA talent so much better than AEW did when they were doing the same thing. Like... When AEW and TNA were partnering, AEW guys would just win every single time. Like on AEW, they'd win. The AEW guys would go on a TNA show. The AEW guy would win. Like they just win every single time. So it's like, why are we even bothering with this? The TNA guys are actually kind of getting to go back and forth a little bit and kind of look good with some of these NXT people. They got this one guy from TNA. His name's Joe Hendry. I know

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[Erica] Joe Hendry he was an indie guy
[Alex] his whole gimmick I think I might have actually talked
[Erica] to him a few times online back in the day
[Alex] his whole gimmick is supposed to be like I don't know he's like a motivational guy or something so he's like he comes out and the song goes I believe in Joe Hendry and like it's like the people sing along and they clap and everything and every time you say his name he appears like he's fucking Beetlejuice or something

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[Erica] Ooh, you see we're getting a sequel to that.
[Alex] No, I didn't.
[Erica] Yeah. Bad.
[Alex] That does not sound good.
[Erica] Bad. I only saw a snippet of the trailer, and I was just like, for whom and for why would but joe hendry
[Alex] yeah no so anyways it's kind of a fun gimmick i think he's kind of like um uh who's the guy who says yeah on wwe oh yeah he just goes yeah what's his freaking name i can't remember oh la knight oh okay anyways so he's kind of like he's kind of like australian la knight like he's got that charisma but he can't wrestle to save his life you know so but if you got the charisma you can do a lot with

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[Erica] oh yeah no joe hendry's been around if it's the same guy that i'm thinking of he's been around for a minute
[Alex] yeah i don't know i have to see
[Erica] he was on the indie scene doing his thang
[Alex] Um, but yeah, it's, it's kind of funny to see like these people up from TNA doing well in NXT, just from the clips I've seen. And it's almost like, Hey, the moment your contracts up, why don't you come on over? You know, like the way they're getting pushed.

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[Erica] Yeah, then you get hired and it's like, oh, that's cute.
[Alex] I mean, you know. But who knows? You don't know. Things are different. It's a new
[Erica] day over there. They
[Alex] really, no, I mean, they really are from the clips I see and everything. It does seem like a very different company.
[Erica] Well, it was bad there for a long time. Unwatchable for a long time.

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[Alex] I think Triple H has done his thing right where he's put his generals in place all over so he has a lot of control and he has people he can trust. That's why you put Shawn Michaels down to lead NXT. It's like, okay, he's either my best friend or one of my best friends. I know this guy ain't going to do some stupid shit.

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[Erica] Well, and, you know, say what you want about them. You could say a lot. He did good when he was doing NXT. He seemed to know how to run a wrestling show.
[Alex] Yeah, I think Triple H has proven he knows what he's doing. I mean, now, 20 years from now, we might be saying he's out of touch and everything. Well, I don't know that anybody should be

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[Erica] running anything for 30 years. Because you are going to, if you don't grow and learn and change with the times, and you're so obstinate about everything that isn't your idea. Yeah. You know, it is just like, you're going to get, also, like, Triple H, he's got a family I assume that he loves. You know, I mean, he took a step back from everything when he had that heart attack. Like, he clearly cares about his family. Like, you don't want to be, like, day-to-day in charge when you're in your fucking 80s, man. Like, I made all this money, I want to enjoy myself. Let me live my life a little bit. I mean, who knows? Who knows? Maybe he'll end up being like Vince. Who knows? 20 to 30

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[Alex] years from now, who knows? But, you know, also it's a totally different thing now though, right? Where Vince owned WWE and he could do whatever the fuck he wanted and he could run that company to the ground if he damn well pleased. now it's owned by you know endeavor triple h he doesn't have that sort of job security you're serving at the

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[Erica] pleasure of the board if he
[Alex] if yeah if either one day ari emmanuel wakes up and he doesn't want you in that job anymore just for whatever reason he fucking feels like or you start doing a bad job for an extended period of time you're done he could be out of there yep you know and that's a big difference and I think the one thing that was always smart from the Vince and Triple H's and everyone's perspective is they keep making it seem like it's not easy to book pro wrestling every single week, especially across multiple shows. And I'm sure it isn't. You need one of us, right, who has the experience to do this. Sure. And I think there is a lot of truth to that. It's like keeping all those things straight and having things make sense across shows and building programs.

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[Erica] With experience within wrestling. Yeah. You can't bring an outside person. Yeah. As much as you might. Oh, yeah. Anybody could. No, no. there's
[Alex] you're gonna bring like a you're gonna bring like a producer in like a showrunner you're gonna
[Erica] ruin it
[Alex] who did like stranger things or something now they're gonna do wwe i just don't think there's crossover there

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[Erica] it's it's a different beast and you need to you need people in place that understand that it is entertainment but it is it's its own thing and to try and say that it's not is just stupid but i did see um i swing back to aew hangman and uh danielson are going at wembley

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[Alex] uh yeah i think that sounds right um oh they did um i don't know if you saw but mariah may turned on tony storm so they're doing that i saw she beat her half to death
[Erica] bunch of those gifts tumblr was a big fan of that turn yes
[Alex] she was like beating she's like driving the heel into her head or something and just they were both covered in blood so it was a good it was a good turn

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[Erica] Well, and Tony's been rocking that. It was really only a matter of time before. I don't know if she's working as a baby face now, but.
[Alex] I think she would be now.
[Erica] I mean, after that, I would assume.
[Alex] I think they're doing, well, not Sasha, but Mercedes Monet against Dr. Britt Baker. It

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[Erica] fucking sucks because Sasha Banks was such a great name.
[Alex] Yeah, well, and the music was so good and everything.
[Erica] The presentation was outstanding.
[Alex] I wish she, just from what I've seen, I wish she'd freshen it up and change the character in some way. Rather than just be, like, the same character in a different company. I just, like, can we put a little twist on it or something? A little
[Erica] evolution. You'd like to see that, yeah.

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[Alex] You know, it doesn't have to be a Jericho thing where, like, every six months you totally change your character. No, but a
[Erica] little tweaking here and there. Yeah, just
[Alex] something.
[Erica] She's going to go Brit's back.
[Alex] yeah though brit looks brit you know how like the guys come back and they've put on like 20 pounds of muscle you know they're just off like just doing steroids or whatever for six months brit was like i'm gonna eat super clean and i'm just gonna do sit-ups she came back and she has like a fucking six pack that's the that's the female version

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[Erica] amazing
[Alex] although raya came back she's still the size of a house
[Erica] priorities
[Alex] i saw some promo because you know her and she's all pissed off at dom now and dom was like said something or like well you're my woman and she was like what
[Erica] what did you just fucking say to me
[Alex] like what and she just walked away it's like i will kill you

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[Erica] i will break you in half
[Alex] i will break you oh
[Erica] goodness
[Alex] yeah But anyways, I mean, wrestling seems like it's kind of on an up period, though. Big time, really, for like six months or so. Well, and that's just good
[Erica] for everybody, man. You know? It's like you got the two products cooking, and it's like, love having the choice.

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[Alex] Yeah. All right. Well, I got nothing else. Yeah,
[Erica] I don't think I've got
[Alex] anything. I feel like I did, but I completely forgot.
[Erica] Write it down for next time.
[Alex] I really, see, I want to be like, I'm so smart. I can remember everything. No. Anyway.
[Erica] You can't remember shit anymore.
[Alex] Hug me. Hold me tight.

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