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December 6, 2020 110 mins

Most people from Nusantara know the competition between Indonesia and Malaysia, but how many know how this competition even came to be? Maryam Lee breaks it down for us in this episode! With her wisdom, she unpacks the complexities of ethnicity and religion in Malaysian national identity, how political structures today are inherited from colonial ways, and the many layers of liberalism. Plus, we talk ghost stories, folk tales, and spiritual healing.

Maryam Lee is a program manager at various non-profit organisations. She looks at political and economic policies that affect people’s lives, from a historical and cultural standpoint, particuparly providing a decolonial approach to any subject matter. Currently, she is developing conversations around technology and society. She is the author of “Unveiling Choice” (2019), a multi-disciplinary scholar, community organiser, and all-around curious being.

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