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Amanda and Josh dig into the psychological aspects of watching TV together. 

Topics
• The dangers of shared viewing experiences
• Discussions around the show "Nobody Wants This"
• Differing opinions on TV characters and actors
• TikTok -on again/off again?
• Updates on Winthrop's soccer matches
• A Fraught Olive Garden Restaurant Review
• A Harrowing Flashbacks Quiz
• Refined Gay Thoughts with Refined Gay Jeff

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Josh (00:00):
Familiar Wilson's Media Relationships are the story.

JJ (00:08):
You are made of meat, my friend, all the way down.

Josh (00:10):
The following podcast uses words like and, and also If
you're not into any of that shit, then now's your chance.

Amanda (00:19):
Three, two, one run.

Chris (00:23):
I'm super familiar with you.
Wilson run.
I'm super familiar with theWilsons.
Get it.

Amanda (00:30):
Welcome to Super Familiar with the Wilsons.
I'm Amanda.

Josh (00:32):
And I'm Josh, so we're gonna do like an honest to God,
like relationship topic, veryfirst thing in the office.

Amanda (00:40):
I need to work into this .
Should I go get more coffee,maybe a little bit of like the
whiskey in it?
What is about to happen to me?

Josh (00:47):
You just made me watch a show.

Amanda (00:52):
Let's back up, made you, I asked you, you agreed Well,
right, right, right, right right.

Josh (00:56):
But I wouldn't have chosen .
We're already starting offreally well.
I wouldn't have chosen to watchthat show.
What's the show called?

Amanda (01:05):
Nobody Wants this with Adam Brody and Kristen Bell.
I have watched it already.
I was ready for a rewatch and Iasked you to try it with me.

Josh (01:14):
I think that, first of all , that's an unfortunate naming
for any show.

Amanda (01:17):
Well, that's the name of their podcast, is Nobody Wants
this?

Josh (01:21):
I'm just saying that if you're going to try to sell a
show or a book or a product oranything, don't call it that
You're not going to enjoy thisnow on NBC.

Amanda (01:30):
Their show is about how awful it is to be dating and all
the things that the gentlemendo and they're like nobody wants
this.
That's the point of that.

Josh (01:38):
So people in a relationship out there tell me
how you deal with this situationwhere you've watched a show
that your significant other hasalready watched.
See, I prefer and I told youthis, I prefer for us to
discover things together andform our opinions together.
The pressure I feel with thissituation is you've already seen

(02:03):
this, you love it, right?

Amanda (02:05):
It's a show that you love, I do, I really like it.

Josh (02:06):
And now I feel the pressure of well, she's already
knows what's going to happen, sopart of her attention is
trained on me and how I'mresponding.
And you have an expectation, orat least you really want me to
like it, right?

Amanda (02:22):
No, see, that's where you're wrong, because all of my
attention on this is howcharming adam brody is.
Like that seth cohen like likeoc 90s, whatever, it's a good
year for the, the boys of thelate 90s, with joshua jackson
and adam brody having resurgence.
No, I think it's very charming,and I told you that I know how
you operate, but you put stuffon like man Down and things that

(02:46):
I don't like.
But I will sit there and watchit with you because I'm trying
to spend time with you and Ican't wait around for you to
watch everything.
I can't sit here and go.
Well, I need Josh to be homeand to want to watch this so I
can try this.
No, I think it was when I wassick.
I watched it and I thought itwas very charming and I liked it
.
I think it was when I was sick.
I watched it and I thought itwas very charming and I liked it

(03:06):
.
I had the same experience withthe show Shrinking with Harrison
Ford and Jason Ziegle.
I watched it on the plane backfrom England and you were very
grumpy about it and you watchedthe first episode and liked it,
but also didn't like it, and soit's sad to me, because there's
so much that you're missing outon, because it has to be a brand
new experience and you can'tsit there and tell me that

(03:27):
everything that you've everasked me to watch that you've
never seen before, ever in yourlife.
Because I know I've watchedsome Doctor who specials, I know
we watched Sherlock togetherwhen we were first dating.
I could list the thing you mademe watch the Big Lebowski.
It's okay to say I don't likethis.
Like it's okay to say I don'tlike this, like it's okay to say
I didn't like it.
I just asked you to try it.

(03:48):
I don't understand why Now yougot to unpack our dirty laundry
on the podcast.
You weren't even ready topodcast yet.
You were like, oh, let's do itlater.
And then the show ended.
You're like let's podcast.

Josh (03:58):
In this show.
These two sisters have apodcast and instantly and
immediately I was annoyedbecause they didn't have their
microphones on a mic stand.
They were holding their mics,they weren't even talking into
the mic, so instantly I wasannoyed.
Actually, I was annoyedbeforehand, because I find
Kristen Bell to be the mostunlikable person in acting.

Amanda (04:20):
Why are you mad?

Josh (04:21):
at Kristen Bell.
I don't know anything about herpersonal life and I don't need
to.
I'm not judging her personallife.
I have never seen her in a rolewhere she did not annoy the
ever loving shit out of me,she's Anna.

Amanda (04:35):
Did Anna annoy you?

Josh (04:36):
I don't know what the she's.
Anna Frozen.

Amanda (04:38):
She's Anna from Frozen.

Josh (04:40):
Okay.

Amanda (04:41):
Did Anna annoy you?

Josh (04:42):
Okay.
So, as we're unpacking this,what maybe we're discovering is
maybe I just don't like her face, I don't know Wow.
I just find her to be quiteannoying.

Amanda (04:53):
You made Jesus cry.

Josh (04:55):
And also in this show she is very unlikable.

Amanda (04:59):
I think that's the point .
Well, but why but?
Why, Because you've seen oneepisode and you're already mad
at her.
It's supposed to be theevolution of these two people.
So you're telling me that whyis she unlikable to you?

Josh (05:13):
I don't know, I don't know , I just do not.
It's probably because she playscharacters that are annoying.

Amanda (05:18):
But we're talking about this one.

Josh (05:31):
What did this one do that was annoying to you?
She was are you kidding?
Obnoxious, annoying person,always with the quip, always
with the I, always I.
I maybe I had an issue with thewriting, then it was just too
right.
I don't think she wrote it toocliche.
Well, she spoke it and sheapparently, you know, annoyed me
speaking it.
It was too pat, too cliche too.

Amanda (05:41):
I, I don't know, I don't know it's very chiclet and so
maybe this is why, like all ofmy, it was recommended to me by
girlfriends and every.
We all love it, so maybe Idon't know, is there a guy out
there who likes it?
I mean?
I'm sure that there are severalguys out there who, like I bet
all of my friends husbands watchit with them and love it and

(06:01):
and are like honey.
Can I get you some wine andchocolate and popcorn whilst
we're watching this, and can I?

Josh (06:05):
yeah, this is because they want to get out of the fucking
room because it's just like, oh,I'll go get you some wine, like
it's such unusual behavior forthem, except for watching this
show.
And then all of a sudden theyturn into jeeves the butler
because they can't stand allright.

Amanda (06:17):
Well, we're going back to shrinking them, because
shrinking has season two and Iknow that I can't think of his
name.
But from um ted lasso,executive producer, what's his
name?
Roy roy, what was?
What's roy's actor's name?
Oh brett gold yeah, likesomething that didn't seem like
it should be his name.
Well, brett?
no, definitely does not seemlike a brett to me he is, um, he

(06:39):
is in the second season ofshrinking and I have watched the
first episode when I had covid,and so I wasn't, I was just
feeling miserable.
But I want to go watch thesecond season of Shrinking, and
I watched the first episode whenI had COVID, and so I wasn't, I
was just feeling miserable.
But, I want to go watch thesecond season, but that means so
I haven't watched the secondseason.
So therefore, based on your, Idon't want to watch anything
that you've already watched.
You have to go watch the firstseason of Shrinking by your own

(07:00):
damn self.
I won't be in the room, andthen we will watch the second
season together.

Josh (07:04):
If you knew anything about like my history at school, I
never studied ahead, so I'mhappy to give that a shot with
you.
You just gotta tell me like,and not here now, cause no one
cares, but you gotta tell me theplot at some point.
All right, TikTok just closeddown.
They just the TikTok.
I guess they got annoyed thatthe United States decided to ban

(07:25):
them, even though I don't thinkthat they will actually be
banned at the end of the day.
So they preemptively said okay,we're just gonna cut off
service to the US, and peopleare.
And I'm not making fun of it, Iam here just to say people are
losing their mind, some people.

Amanda (07:41):
So I went and checked on the 18 year old because last
night I got the screenshot oflike tiktok is down or whatever
that everybody's seen and I wokeup this morning I said how are
you feeling about it?
She said I'm just annoyedbecause it feels like a ploy
that the incoming president'sgonna come in and save us and
get tiktok back and it's like aploy that everybody will just be
like he's the greatest thingever.

(08:01):
So she's more annoyed becauseit feels like a political move
on the new administration's partuh, yeah I agree yeah, that's,
that's.

Josh (08:10):
I think that's a pretty naked um thing, that that's
happening there.
Um, I'm just interested in thesociological effect.
Now, having said that, we, youand I know people who make money
from TikTok.
Okay, so, there are, you know,there are people who depend on

(08:30):
that income.

Amanda (08:31):
Yeah, they're content creators that I never got into.
Tiktok it's not a thing that I.
I'm not allowed to open it atwork.
It won't open at work because Iwork for a state entity.
We are not allowed to have itat work.
So I have it on my phone, but Ijust it's not a thing that I
ever now.
I'll go face first into someInstagram reels, but TikTok is

(08:51):
not a thing that I ever got into.

Josh (08:53):
What I'll be intrigued by is how the other social media
apps now change their interface,and my understanding is maybe
that they kind of are to mirrorTikTok in the three days that
it's going gonna be down.
So we will see, but we'll watchthat.
I was never in danger ofbecoming TikTok famous, that was
never a thing.
So I have no personal stakes init, but I mean I recognize that

(09:15):
people did so to our friendsout there.
We're thinking about you,thoughts and prayers.

Amanda (09:20):
Go make some reels.
Can you make money on reelsinstead Like can you be an
instagram?

Josh (09:26):
you can be an instagram influencer right, I don't know,
I don't know.
Again, like this is not a thingthat I will say that for the
past couple weeks I've beenposting every day on our podcast
account to instagram just tosee what happens.
We're getting marginally alittle bit more engagement, like
, uh, one or two comments hereand there but but besides that,

(09:47):
I mean, I've seen no difference.
So, listen, there's so muchgoing on around us and I've said
so many times that I don'tthink that human minds are able
and have the capacity to absorball the information that we're
surrounded by and that we exposeourselves to.
You realize that last year, apresidential candidate was shot

(10:09):
at.
You know how quickly that cameand left the news cycle.
These drones, these mysteriousdrones.
You realize how everyone made abig deal about these drones
that were appearing over a partof the US and now not a whisper,
not a word, Not a word.
You know our political climate.
If you're a crook in politics,listen, just do what you want,

(10:34):
because everyone will get pissedoff until, like the next Tide
Pods hoax or whatever, we don'thave the capacity to handle all
of this, which means that we areoverloaded.
We respond and react to everylittle thing and we don't hold
on to anything.
So don't know why I startedtalking about that, because my

(10:54):
attention span has beentick-tocked down to 10 seconds.
I found myself at the end ofthat little diatribe wondering
how did I get here?
Like I sleptwalked.

Amanda (11:03):
See, that proves my point we don't have the capacity
to hold on to anything I'mstill mad on behalf of kristen
bell's face, so I wasn't evenreally listening to you all
right.

Josh (11:12):
Well, let's talk about something a little bit more
happy.
We have our next soccersaturday update ready for this.
The Mighty Wolves Ow Roaredback in their second game of the
season, shaking off last week'snarrow loss with a thrilling

(11:32):
victory against the Leopards.
I will take a pause here.
No, not the Leopards.

Amanda (11:39):
Last week they lost to the Leopards.
This week they won to the Pumas.

Josh (11:42):
Dad, nabbit Fine.
Yes, that was where our mistakewas Last week was not the
Jaguars, it was the Leopards.

Amanda (11:51):
But next week they play the Jaguars, so it's all the big
cats except for the wolves.

Josh (11:54):
That's right.
But we won against who?
The Pumas?
The Pumas the squad took tofield one, this time at Diamond
Sports Park, with grit,determination and well creative
directionality.
So let's talk about ourfavorite player, our lovely son,
eight-year-old Winthrop Wilson.

(12:15):
He was the iron wall in gold.

Amanda (12:17):
He was.

Josh (12:18):
Once again he proved why he's a fan favorite, turning
away two solid shots on targetand delivering booming goalie
kicks that cleared the midfieldwith authority.
Winthrop also had a save of theday moment, calmly stopping a
surprise shot from his ownteammate, victoria.

Amanda (12:37):
Victor got a little turnaround.

Josh (12:40):
The opposing team's coach had his strategy dialed in
rallying his players with thiscry of when we finish, it's
snack time.

Amanda (12:50):
Just a few more minutes and we can all go home.

Josh (12:54):
A statement that clearly fueled an uptick in their energy
, but not enough to overcome themighty wolves.
Oh, the game's crescendo camein the final play as Gunter
emerged, the hero scoring adynamic, dramatic, game-winning
goal.
To seal the deal, the Wolveserupted in celebration, showing

(13:16):
that persistence and a littlechaos can lead one to greatness.
Despite a few players stillworking on which direction to
kick the ball, the Mighty Wolvesshowcased flashes of brilliance
and the beginnings of solidteamwork.
Final score Mighty Wolves wonwhat?
Pumas?
Pumas zero.
Oh, a hard-won victory for thepack.

Amanda (13:42):
My favorite was when the Puma coach said no more
cartwheels and then the childwho was cartwheeling all the way
through just kept cartwheelingand then at one point he yelled
stop holding hands, because it'slike Red Rover.
They were playing their owngame of Red Rover back there.

Josh (14:00):
It was a strategy.
It was a distraction strategy,as if the kids needed to be
distracted.
I mean that kind of comes builtin.
That's a feature, not a bug.
I did notice something though.
Did you notice that theopposing sideline had lots?

Amanda (14:12):
of families.
Yes, yes, yes.

Josh (14:15):
Unless it was one family which could have been.

Amanda (14:18):
Well, I did notice, so we had a new player on the team
this week.

Josh (14:21):
Yes.

Amanda (14:22):
She did great, but her parents were sitting over there.

Josh (14:24):
Oh, were they.
So they came over for a snack.

Amanda (14:27):
So I don't know that they realized that we were on
this side.

Josh (14:30):
No, you know what I'm finding myself loving, loving,
loving this soccer season withthe eight-year-old.
This child is yours and ours.
We we have him together fromthis marriage, but you know, I
have, uh, you know, two mid-20year olds from my previous
marriage and you have the 18year old from your previous
marriage.

(14:50):
But it's interesting how likewe're going through these things
and these stages of life againand I'm just really really
enjoying it not to say that Iwant to, you know, do it again
well, we're not in five yearswith another child.

Amanda (15:03):
We're not.

Josh (15:04):
But no, I, I'm really really loving it, and the
weather's been agreeable as well.

Amanda (15:08):
Now, when it gets hot, hot, yeah, I don't know about
that, but but he's having areally good attitude about it
too he's having a good time.

Josh (15:16):
Yesterday, after the game, we gave winthrop the
opportunity to pick whichrestaurant we should go to and
weirdly he picked the olivegarden well, it's not weirdly.

Amanda (15:29):
It's because they've been really pushing this
commercial about.
Fan favorites are back, and hisfavorite sauce in the world is
alfredo sauce, and so we startedtalking about it and he chose
that he wanted to wait, wait.

Josh (15:40):
So you're saying that he's seen advertising?

Amanda (15:42):
yeah, that's where this came from like when we're
watching, like when we'rewatching like pop culture,
jeopardy and things like that,they play the commercials oh so
advertising.
Actually, we got to break himof that yeah, well, I think he's
no longer going to want to goto Olive Garden.
I think he broke himself of ityesterday.

Josh (16:00):
Yeah well, it definitely was like stepping into a time
portal of the 70s.
All of a sudden, I was like aseven-year-old kid waiting for
my endless breadsticks.
It takes me to a place and itis one of those things.
It's like the Olive Gardenexperience.
We go in and the atmospheredefinitely takes me to a time
that is not now.

(16:20):
They were playing at one pointand I feel like this song is by
Engelbert Humperdinck.
You know the.
Tell me cuando, cuando cuando?

Amanda (16:27):
Yes, I heard it when I was in the bathroom.
I thought about you becauseweirdly, you used to sing that
song.

Josh (16:32):
Well, it's one of those earworms.

Amanda (16:33):
I can't get at them.

Josh (16:34):
But when's the last time I've heard that song?
So yeah, it took me somewhere.
It's definitely a demographic,that place.

Amanda (16:42):
Yes.

Josh (16:43):
We absolutely lowered the median age and the median waist
size.

Amanda (16:48):
Yes, significantly Like by a factor of 50.
Yes.

Josh (16:51):
As I'm looking around.

Amanda (16:52):
Yes.

Josh (16:52):
So this can be our Gainesville restaurant review,
actually.

Amanda (16:56):
Sure.

Josh (16:56):
Because we had a lot of beige food, as you pointed out,
it was all beige, tell me aboutyour, your dish.
Did you like it?
Did you enjoy?
Oh?

Amanda (17:03):
well, yeah, I just did soup and salad and the zuppa
toscana I love, which is thespicy sausage.
Uh, kale and potato soup.
But I did find, though, that Imake that here, but I make it
with cauliflower instead ofpotatoes.

Josh (17:17):
And I actually like mine better.
Yeah, yeah.

Amanda (17:28):
But the thing is it's super nostalgic for me Because
when I was Well, my mom loved anOlive Garden experience after
church.
But that's not what thenostalgia is for me.
In high school and college Iworked in the mall.
I worked retail all the waythrough and I've talked about
that, but in our mall food courtwe had an olive garden express
and I would get breadsticks andalfredo sauce.

Josh (17:44):
Yeah, but you don't get the cuando, cuando I did not get
the cuando, cuando, cuando.

Amanda (17:48):
But this was like the lunch.
This because, again, I didn'tweigh over 100 pounds until I
graduated from college, soeating these carbs was not a
problem for me.
I get to go salad, to gobreadsticks and alfredo sauce
for dipping.
So now olive garden gives you.
You pay 4.95 for the alfredosauce and it's.
It's never ending.

(18:08):
They'll just keep refilling it.
I could eat it with a spoon, socould winthrop.
So I ate a ton of breadsticks.
Yesterday so did he.
The salad was good, but it wasso cold yeah, it's always so
cold it was so cold and theplate is.
Did you notice?
The plate was ice, like theykeep them in the freezer right,
um.
And then we ordered, which wasa dud, the spinach and artichoke

(18:29):
dip, um, and it was so hot.
So going back and forth betweenthe two extreme temperatures, I
I did not.

Josh (18:36):
They call that the florida weather special yeah, right
I'll tell you, though, thosebreadsticks and anyone who's
ever had those breadsticks knowsthis to be so Once they lose
their heat they're worthless.
They're like the nuclear rods.
They've lost their usefulnessonce they've cooled down.
When they're hot, they arefreaking delicious.
But you brought some home, andthat's a waste.

Amanda (18:56):
That's a waste of space.
No, the bag tells me how toreheat them in a way that will
be equivalent to getting themfrom the Olive Garden Lies.

Josh (19:03):
All of them lies, so I had shrimp scampi.

Amanda (19:06):
Yeah.

Josh (19:07):
Which is supposed to be in my mind is supposed to be
shrimp with angel hair pasta,some garlic butter sauce and
some tomatoes thrown in.
Yeah Well, I found it to behorribly under seasoned, and
when I have to attack somethingwith salt, then I know that you
failed, because salt is not theonly flavor.
Yeah, you know I, like it,needs to have some flavor in

(19:29):
there from other differentspices and it was pretty
flavorless and well, go aheadand say what you're saying no, I
was gonna say we've beenmarried for 10 years.

Amanda (19:38):
I can.
I was going to say we've beenmarried for 10 years.
I think that's the first timein a very long time I've seen
you pull salt.
You do not salt your salt.
I will put salt on anything youtypically don't in a restaurant
, and so when you grab the saltand the pepper, I knew it wasn't
good.

Josh (19:57):
Well, usually I mean, we're that have been too salty
than not salty enough.
And the idea of salt is thatreally, if you apply it
judiciously, it just elevatesthe flavors that are already
there.
Well, there was no flavor there, so I just got salt, and
forgive me if this is usually apart of scampi that I'm not
aware of.
They chopped up asparagus andput asparagus in there and that

(20:23):
was.
It was like obstacles.
It was like-.
You did not eat the asparagusand obstacles, and at that
flavorless, like I can tell youwith 100% certainty because I
checked that the asparagus addedmore flavor to my urine than it
did to my plate.

Amanda (20:41):
I would hope that you would mean that it added more
scent.
Yes, did you taste?

Josh (20:46):
I absolutely did not taste , but it had more effect on my
urine than it did on the plateis what I mean to say here.
Now I realize when I say Ichecked, that sounds like really
, really weird.
No, but all I'm saying is theasparagus was useless.
Yeah, Like, if my intention wasto.
You know, I want to come homeand, just as the dot at the end

(21:06):
of the sentence, I want to smellasparagus in my urine.
Then great then, job done.
But if I go to Olive Garden thenit's going to be because I want
that sentimental, nostalgicfeeling, but it's not going to
be for the food.

Amanda (21:18):
No, no, if you stick with the soup, I think it's fine
.
And then, and also that's thecheapest, the endless soup and
bread, salad and breadsticks is$9.99.

Josh (21:27):
I think it speaks to how crap the food is that they have
to keep the salad ice cold andthey have to keep the
breadsticks really, really hot,because if they were at room
temperature they would just suck.
Yeah, I feel like that salad.
If it, if it unfroze, it wouldjust be a wilted mess like lose
all structure.

Amanda (21:44):
I went to olive garden once I mean when I was living at
home and they they had ran outof lettuce.
I'm like this is like this isyour staple.
Like who planned this?
Someone did not order your.
You have issues with yoursupply chain.
This was not not right.
Like you could, you should haveseen that one coming, that you
know we were going to needlettuce for the day, but went

(22:05):
through pad.
He had his, his Alfredo andpasta, Um, but he ate about 70
breadsticks and then immediatelyhad a stomach ache for the rest
of the day he was wrecked.

Josh (22:15):
He was wrecked.
That'll disabuse him of OliveGarden for the rest of his life.

Amanda (22:18):
I don't think he's ever going to want to go to Olive
Garden.
He still doesn't feel greatthis morning.
Ask him how his stomach was.

Josh (22:23):
He's like it still hurts a little bit.
I will say that running out ofeither breadsticks or salad at
Olive Garden is like the spacestation running out of oxygen, I
mean like it's.
So, Amanda, let's do a gametime?

Amanda (22:38):
All righty.
What time is it Game time?
All right, josh.
Are you ready for this week'sNew York Times flashback quiz?

Josh (23:00):
Not a sponsor.
Yes, I am.

Amanda (23:02):
Okay.
So the conceit of this is I'mgoing to give Josh some events
from history and he's going toput them on a timeline Now.
He doesn't have to get themexactly correct, but we do like
for him to guess when it is, buthe needs to put it before or
after the event that he camepreviously.
So I'm going to give you theanchoring event, josh, now I
will tell you what it is, but Iwould like for you to first make
a guess.
Okay, the first event is UScompanies start making small,

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sleek restaurants that areshipped by rail.
They're known as diners.

Josh (23:33):
Oh God.

Amanda (23:33):
I never knew that, but that would explain the shape.
Yeah, yeah, yeah right, thestereotypical shape of like a
car.

Josh (23:40):
Okay, so that diner I mean diners.
You feel like diners are everycliche like 50s movie.
So we're gonna say like the 50s, we're gonna say like 1951 with
these diner cars here 1930s.
Oh, no way, okay, yeah, becauseyou think.

Amanda (23:55):
I mean they were popular in the 50s, but this is when
they were starting to be made.

Josh (23:59):
So I like diners before they were popular.
Yeah, you got the 1930s emohipsters all right second one.
So what was that 19?
What now?

Amanda (24:07):
1930s.

Josh (24:08):
Okay, that's your anchoring event yeah, but 1930
what?

Amanda (24:10):
it just says 1930s oh well, that's shit.

Josh (24:13):
So that means then that nothing, I guess, can be like a
specific 30s.

Amanda (24:18):
yeah, yeah, yeah, okay so 1930s?

Josh (24:20):
That's the first time they've done that.

Amanda (24:22):
Because I guess they don't know.
The stylish King Tut isentombed in Egypt with his
afterlife essentials food,clothes and a whole lot of shoes
, mostly flip-flops Before orafter diners.

Josh (24:36):
Okay, so I need to attempt to put a date to this.

Amanda (24:40):
Yeah.

Josh (24:41):
And I am so ignorant about ancient history.
So let's say oh God, king Tutfeels like he's way old.

Amanda (24:50):
I think he is 1920?

Josh (24:52):
No, okay, so we're gonna say Jesus, we're gonna say 1200
BCE for King Tut 1323.
Bce.

Amanda (25:07):
Oh Close.
I mean you still got the pointfor getting it there, but good
job.

Josh (25:11):
King Tut.
All right, ready A danceteacher, I wonder if King Tut,
like he, wore flip-flops, do youthink he came out with his own
line of flip flops?
Yeah, yeah, yeah that like he,you know, advertised on the
hieroglyphic wall for people tobuy.

Amanda (25:24):
The Tuts yes, you do you think so?

Josh (25:26):
I do.
They'd be called Tuts.
That's very good.
I remember when I was in campwhen this junior counselor in my
cabin he was like this big guy,really cool, like chill, cool
big mountain man looking dude,and he had these shoes that I
think were probably theprecursor to Crocs because they

(25:50):
had little knobs on the solesthat would go against your feet.
And I said oh dude, those lookreally cool.
What are they called?
And he says those are calledtitties.
Nope, yeah.
So apparently there was aT-I-D-D-I-E-S.
There was a slipper or aflip-flop called titties.
I should look that up.
Oh, maybe I'm not gonna lookthat up.

Amanda (26:09):
No, I don't think you should look that up.
But Tut's titties, that's good,all right, I hate that word.
I grew up hating that word somuch.
Tut, no, okay.
A dance teacher, judy Missett,realizes her students want to be
fit, not learn choreography.

Josh (26:28):
She'll rebrand her class as Jazzercise.
Jazzercise has to be 1984.

Amanda (26:34):
Jazzercise is 1969.
Oh Jesus, Wow, that's earlierthan I thought it would be 1969
Jazzercise.
You still get the point Allright.

Josh (26:44):
Number three Did you ever do jazzercise?

Amanda (26:46):
No, I did not ever do jazzercise.
I was super into Zumba in theearly 2000s, but not jazzercise.
I was not around in 1969.
Okay, james Monroe tells Europeto stay out of the Americas.
Without a strong US Navy, theonly ones who can enforce his
doctrine are Europeans.

Josh (27:07):
We're going to say 1816.
James Madison.
I'm sure this was in Hamilton,wasn't it Wasn't yeah, it's
James Monroe, not James Madison.

Amanda (27:16):
Oh shit Well 1816 anyway 1823.

Josh (27:20):
Bam 1823.
James Monroe.
Was that the one who wasn'tmarried?
You know, there was onepresident who wasn't married and
I feel like his sister orsomeone played the role of first
lady or something.

Amanda (27:33):
Oh, really Am I getting that totally wrong?

Josh (27:34):
I have no idea.
Let us know if I've gotten thattotally bass-ackwards by
emailing us at familiarwilsonsat gmailcom, because I don't
know, I feel like there was onepresident who was a bachelor but
then they brought someone in tokind of be his beard, as it
were.

Amanda (27:48):
All right, John Glenn applies to be one of the first
US astronauts Fearing he's tootall for a small spacecraft.

Josh (28:01):
He puts heavy books on his head to try to become shorter
I'm concerned that john glennthought that was going to work I
was going to say, and this wassupposed to be our best and
brightest oh yeah, um, okay thatthis one's difficult.
It's got to be like 19 before1969, we're to say 1965 for John
Glenn 1959.
, 1959.

(28:24):
John Glenn, best and brightest,put books on his head.
Now you're a shorty, though.
Did you ever do anything?

Amanda (28:31):
Yeah, I put books under my feet to try to make me taller
.

Josh (28:34):
No, but did you ever do those things where you hang from
a bar to stretch yourself or oranything like that, or did you?

Amanda (28:40):
just know, I used to go to a chiropractor and get
adjustments because, for like,make my leg one leg, because I
had one leg shorter than theother, or so I was told wait
what I had.
I told you about the wholechiropractic experience because
of the car accident.
I told a lot a couple weeks agoon having to have my neck and
traction, but he also identifiedthat one of my legs was shorter
than the other so he'd adjustme to make them even so do you

(29:02):
no longer walk in circles, right, yeah I don't know.
Moving on to free himself fromslavery, the gladiator spartacus
escapes and leads a revolt.
He beats several armies beforehis eventual defeat.

Josh (29:16):
So so that movie was made in?
Are you talking about the moviestarring?

Amanda (29:21):
Charles Smith.
No, I'm talking about theactual gentleman.

Josh (29:24):
Roman Empire.
So it has to be in between Tutand Monroe, all right, so we're
gonna say 1100 BCE 73 BCE Okay.

Amanda (29:34):
You still got it correctly placed, all right.
Theodore Parker, anabolitionist, predicts his cause
will prevail.
He describes the arc of themoral universe as long but
bending toward justice.

Josh (29:48):
Oh see, now, that's one of those sayings that's attributed
to Martin Luther King.

Amanda (29:52):
Well, maybe Martin Luther King got it from Theodore
Parker.

Josh (29:55):
Yeah, yeah but I'm saying is that you always, or I've
always seen those memes.
In fact, I think I've evenposted one that has mlk with
that saying yeah, um, what wasthe question?

Amanda (30:04):
okay, so abolitionist, um hmm, I'm gonna put it at 1845
I bet the reason this isincluded is because monday is
martin luther king uh,observance day here in the US.
And.
I bet this is going to talkabout that 1853.

(30:25):
Okay.
So, you still got it correctlyplaced on the timeline.

Josh (30:29):
When's Theodore Barker Day ?
That's my question.

Amanda (30:31):
Yes, all right, two more Ready.
Mm-hmm.
The Dutch artist Vermeer paintsgirl with a pearl eararring.
He uses ultramarine, a rareblue pigment as precious as gold
.

Josh (30:42):
You know I was doing so well.
This could have been lastTuesday and I would not know, oh
God.
Girl with the Pearl Necklace.

Amanda (30:51):
No Pearl Earring.
The Girl with the PearlNecklace is a different thing.

Josh (30:57):
Shit.
Okay, so we're going to saythat that's back in the 1500s
all right, so between spartacusand james monroe no, yes, yes
1665 bam um All right, last one.

Amanda (31:17):
All right ready.

Josh (31:18):
I'm going for a queen sweep.
Here you are.

Amanda (31:20):
A mathematician in India , Brahmagupta, writes the first
known rule for doing arithmeticwith a strange number.
That number was zero.
Oh again.

Josh (31:34):
Damn it.
You know, here's the thing.
You're like oh that must bepretty recent, but humans aren't
as dumb as we think that theyare.
Or John Glenn is maybe a littlebit, but I think that we got
dumber as time went on, becauselike they were doing complex
math and all this mess, way, way, way, way, way Like that could
have been before Egypt, before.

(31:54):
King Tut Before King Tut yeah,I'm gonna say before King Tut.

Amanda (31:59):
Yeah, I'm going to say before.

Josh (32:00):
King Tut All right which I put at 13.

Amanda (32:02):
Oh incorrect.
God damn it.
It comes after Spartacus, andbefore Vermeer it was 628 AD.

Josh (32:13):
Oh God, I screwed it up.
Listen, it's always going to be.
I'm not good at math.
Yeah, that's always going to bemy downfalls math, that's just
the thing.

Amanda (32:22):
So seven out of eight, so I wanted to go.
So when you're done with theflashbacks, it'll give you the
timeline, it'll tell you someinformation about this.
So this thing with James no,whoever Parker, that was.

Josh (32:34):
Theodore.

Amanda (32:34):
Yeah, theodore Parker, theodore, yeah, Theodore Parker.
It clicks to an article aboutteaching and learning about
Martin Luther King Jr with theNew York Times, so it's a long
article, but that quote fromTheodore Parker was a favorite
of Martin Luther King, so Idon't think Martin Luther King
was trying to plagiarize, I justthink that it's become
attributed to him.

Josh (32:53):
Oh no, I was going to the place where, famously, people
misattribute miss a tribute.

Amanda (32:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

Josh (33:04):
And now it's time for Refined Gay Thoughts with
Refined Gay Jeff.

Amanda (33:09):
I have missed hearing from Jeff.

Josh (33:11):
Happy podcast to you, Wilsons.
I'm hopeful that the new yearis going well for you.
I'm glad that you had a greatanniversary celebration in St
Petersburg.
Here's a completely randomquestion that's coming out of
nowhere, but it just popped intomy head what constitutes a
second honeymoon?

Amanda (33:30):
I don't know.
It's a really good question,Jeff.

Josh (33:34):
Wouldn't it be the thing that you have after a second
marriage?
I don't understand thecomplication here.

Amanda (33:38):
No, no, no, no no Couples will be like oh, we're
going on our second honeymoon.
I don't know.
Some people will do it for aspecific anniversary, major
milestone.
Some people will just do itwhen, in time, they can get away
from their children.

Josh (33:53):
I don't know.

Amanda (33:54):
We just called it an anniversary trip.
I don't think it was a secondhoneymoon it.
We just called it ananniversary trip.
I don't think it was a secondhoneymoon.

Josh (33:58):
That's a good question, though, he said.
I'm just wondering if it's justa trip away from all
responsibilities.
But if that's the case,wouldn't yearly vacations be
considered second honeymoonsalso something to ponder.
It probably means without thekids, it's probably what it
really means.
Yes, this has been my birthdayweek and I've kind of enjoyed it
.
The actual day was on a Tuesday, but I've been celebrating a
little bit each day.
I obviously started on Tuesdaywith cocktails at the Ripcord

(34:21):
that's his local gay bar.
They took really good care ofme there, and afterwards I had a
nice dinner of chicken, friedsteak and gravy, with mashed
potatoes and more gravy.
How southern, can you be?

Amanda (34:33):
Sounds lovely though.

Josh (34:36):
He says I opted to take a piece of apple pie with homemade
vanilla ice cream home with me.
Well, there you go.
That's how you can be moreSouthern.
I am making this week all aboutmy favorite food.
So last night I had Chinesefood.
I think Chinese is my favorite.
I had sesame chicken with eggdrop soup and egg rolls.
Sorry, Jeff, I cannot do eggdrop soup.

Amanda (34:57):
Do you not like seeing the egg floating around in it?

Josh (34:59):
It's just too evocative.
See, I've got this thing withfood right.
I've got to jive with thetexture and with how it looks,
as well as the taste, and Ithink sometimes texture even
more.
Less now, but when I was a kidthat, I think, was the paramount
thing of importance.
That was my first consideration.

(35:19):
That's why I couldn't havestewed tomatoes, because they
were just this, especially ifthey weren't hot.
They were just this gloppy,gross feeling in my mouth could
not do it.
I judge chinese restaurants hecontinues by the quality of
their egg drop soup, and easternhas the best.
I've been going there for 23years now.
Helen, which is herAmericanized name, is the

(35:40):
hostess and owner and alwayscalls me by name and makes me
feel so welcome.
She even knows my voice when Icall in to go orders.
Now my question is does anyoneelse go to this restaurant?
Because we have a local Asianplace that we go to and there
could be months in between ourtimes of going there and they

(36:01):
know what we want to drink atthe bar.
And I think it's because it's afront for something.
And we are the people who comein and they're like, oh shit,
there's actual customers here.
Even though it is not happeningthis year, he continues because
the birthday fell on Tuesday.
I love when my birthday fallson the weekend because I always
get a long holiday weekend forMLK.

(36:21):
Day, oh yeah.
Okay, I will be having extra funon Sunday, funday, because I
won't have to go work on Monday.
He says expect text messageswhich we've already received.
Which they started last nightso good for you.
He calls me out for notresponding to his comment about
Abe Froman the Sa, the sausageking of chicago a few weeks back

(36:42):
.
It is a totally harmlessthrowback to ferris bueller's
day off when ferris cameron andsloan imitate abe frohman, the
sausage king of chicago, to geta table at a really nice
restaurant.
No, don't remember that scenehave you seen ferris bueller?
I have, a long time ago I don'tremember love loving it it's.

Amanda (37:02):
You know what I remember about ferris bueller?
It stressed me out that theycouldn't undo the miles on
cameron's dad's car.
That's the thing that sticksout for me and then they just
wound up totally in the car.

Josh (37:12):
But yeah, I think it caused me to have the anxiety I
think that even like back then,as I'm watching it, I'm like
this guy.
This actor is playing ateenager and he's 46 or whatever
he was at that point.
In other related news, jeffsays rachel maddow said the word
shambolic on tv this week.
I thought that was kind ofbizarre, since I was just

(37:33):
relating to you too that I'dnever heard of it before you
guys said it well, that's thewhat's that called when you all
of a sudden become aware ofsomething.
The yellow car syndrome, isn'tit?

Amanda (37:43):
Yeah, but there's another.
It's like a guy's nameBader-Meinhof effect.
Yeah, I think that's it.

Josh (37:48):
Yeah, where you.
If you buy a red car, all of asudden you're seeing red cars on
the highway and stuff like that.
One thing you may not knowabout me, which is the segment
we said we were going to do andwe totally dropped the ball on
there.

Amanda (38:02):
Well, jeff has picked the ball back up, so thank you,
jeff.

Josh (38:05):
So he continues.
When I was one year old, Icontracted meningitis and was in
the hospital.
I almost died.
I was running high fevers andthe highest it got was 106
degrees.

Amanda (38:16):
No, that's not good, Jeff.

Josh (38:18):
My mom said I had convulsions because of it.
Okay, keep it light.

Amanda (38:21):
Jeff, Well no, those are febrile seizures.

Josh (38:25):
What are they called Febrile seizures Seizures caused
by a high fever.
I cannot even comprehend if Iwere a parent now and had to go
through that as a result of theextremely high temperature.
I always had a moderate hearingloss because of it.
I guess hearing aids will be inmy up and coming future because
hearing is kind of gettingtroublesome.

(38:46):
That's a thing that I don'tknow.
That the people know about meis like the hearing in my right
ear is pretty fried, so ifthere's ever a loud noise I will
plug my right ear because ithurts and like kind of distorts
a little bit.
In fact, what I should do iscarry like an earplug around.

(39:06):
We went to.
Where did we go?
We went to the bowl last Sundayand we saw this really cool
bluegrass artist.
I realized, oh, we're going tobe in this small space with this
music and it's going to be loudand uncomfortable.
So luckily the bowl sold alittle foam earplugs so I popped
one in my right ear and I wasfine.
So that's a thing about me.
Now.
That was caused by years ofplaying guitar way too loudly

(39:31):
and maybe also way toounskillfully, who knows.
But anyway.

Amanda (39:36):
All right, here's my thing about me.
I thought about it, okay, goahead, who knows, but anyway all
right, here's my thing about me.
I thought about it, okay, um,most people don't know or are
surprised to find out that I ama natural, like, really,
platinum blonde.
No, not, not now.
It's not like I diet, diet tocover it up.
Now I do diet darker than mynatural color, but I was what?
Like cotton-headed, toe-headed,toe-headed.
I've never understood thatphrase.

(39:57):
Have you ever heard this phrase?

Josh (39:59):
Yes.

Amanda (40:00):
I don't know what that means.
Maybe it is problematic and Idon't know.
So maybe I need to researchthat before I say it.
But I, yes, very, very, very,very, very blonde when I was
younger.

Josh (40:14):
Very interesting.

Amanda (40:15):
What do you think your natural it's not very
interesting.
What do you think your naturalhair color is now?
Because right now it's a.
It's a like a medium blonde,but I dye it a dark brown.
I mean a medium.
It's a medium brown, but I dyeit a dark brown and also gray
actually not gray white like mywhere where it's going.
It's not like a salt and pepper,like it's it's going.
It's it's not going gray, it'sgoing white, like I've got these

(40:35):
white strands.
When my mom went gray she wentlike almost platinum blonde
white.
So I have a feeling that's whatmine will do.

Josh (40:42):
That's interesting, though .
Why don't you stop dying just astrand of it?
Like Stephen Toast no, thankyou.
Or like Rogue from the X-Men nothank you, that would be
brilliant.

Amanda (40:56):
That would be cool school.
I'm not doing it.

Josh (40:57):
This is my life.
You realize.
This is whenever I'm picking upthere how sweet Grampy is
coming to pick up.

Amanda (41:03):
That is your choice for not coloring that beard.
That's the only thing thatmakes you look older.

Josh (41:08):
I tried to color the beard and it burned my face.

Amanda (41:11):
No, it burned your face when you used the stuff that
wasn't the mountain man stuffthat you were ordering.

Josh (41:19):
That did fine.
You didn't have any issue withthat.
Too much messing around.
Jeff continues on saying.
During that time I had to have60 shots in my spine.

Amanda (41:24):
Oh God, Jeff, I'm so sorry.
Well, you probably don'tremember it, friend.

Josh (41:29):
It says well, I don't know about all that it says.
I don't know why.
Maybe that's the medicaldecisions.
You know that's what they wereat the time.
Mom and dad have also told memy entire life that I had to be
put in a baby straight jacketbecause of my reactions to
seeing needles.

Amanda (41:42):
Sure, so he did remember .
No, it caused some trauma thatyour body remembered.

Josh (41:49):
That fear of needles followed me until at least high
school and college days.
I'm okay with them now.
Don't like them, I can do them,so yeah, so he calls me out on
my rudeness to the doordash guyyes, you were rude to doordash.
He says sorry that you were rudeto your doordash guy, but at
least you recognized itafterward.
I try to always be aware of howI am being perceived because,

(42:11):
hello, I'm in the deep south andwe were raised, proper, spelled
that way.
There's one instance that Iwill share.
That happened over 20 years agoand I wish I could turn back
time, like share, and take itback, because it still bothers
me to this day.
I won't go into the detailswhich fail jeffrey.
Go into the details, but justknow that it ended with me

(42:33):
yelling across a parking lotlate at night with more than a
few cocktails in my system,isn't that always the way it
happens?
And got pissed off that Icouldn't park in an empty
parking lot because a businessthat was closed To the parking
lot attendant, because they hadone to stop people from parking
in their lot even though theywere closed.
I yelled that he was patheticand drove away.
Now, as far as insults go, thatseems to be, I don't know, very

(42:58):
erudite, like oh, you'repathetic.
I mean, that's different thanhey, you asshole, or whatever.
This is the first time I'veever told this story to anyone,
because it brings me great andginormous shame.
I hope that the universe hasforgiven me.
Did I mention that I may havehad one too many cocktails?
I'm going to go back and bleepout his last name.

(43:18):
Just realize that that's a thingwe're going to do.
As far as having to put onpants to answer the door, I wear
boxers and they're usuallysolid color.
They're quite baggy, except forthe waistband, and they
resemble shorts.
I answer the door all the timein my boxers and with my
requisite rolled up long sleeveshirt.
That's my daily uniform.
It looks like a complete outfit.

(43:38):
Maybe I'm kidding myself intothinking no one notices, but
I've now officially reachedearly social security age and I
do what I want without askingpermission.

Amanda (43:46):
There you go.

Josh (43:47):
Yeah, well, that is an interesting thing.
I feel like I would know thedifference and it would bother
me, but also I can't wear boxersanymore.

Amanda (43:59):
Shall we talk about why on this podcast, my boys need
support.
Oh, okay.

Josh (44:03):
My boys want to be held.

Amanda (44:05):
Do you need the toilet net thing that Chicken Farmer
Tom has or talked about?
Toilet net.
Didn't they want?
I can't remember either.
Yes, I can't remember.
Either it was something theywanted to patent or it was a
thing that they wanted he wantedto order, but it was the when
you have to sit to go to therestroom.

(44:25):
It was like a net that wentover the seat so it held them up
, so they weren't in the water.

Josh (44:32):
I vaguely remember that Dude if you need a net, dude if
you need a net.
I'm imagining like in gym classwhen the coach would bring out
that bag made of a net and justtoss it out there.
Toss all the balls, toss allthe balls out.
He says that he was superimpressed that little Winthrop
showed awareness to come andapologize for the way he acted.

(44:54):
Yeah, we love that.
It does speak to our parentingskills, if I do say so myself.

Amanda (45:01):
You said that or Jeff said that to us.

Josh (45:03):
Jeff says that and I'm echoing that.
It reflects my parenting skills.
Okay, he does comment thatwhenever he goes out and about
he's not holding anythingelectronic.
When he goes to the restroomsIn most bars and restaurants now
there's a ledge right above theurinal for people to place
their drink phone keys, whatever.
That should solve the problem.
But the point is that thereason why you have your phone

(45:24):
in your hand is to look at it,because you know, inevitably you
will get bored.

Amanda (45:32):
How long are you in the bathroom, at the urinal?
This is what I'm saying to you.
I understand if you need to bein a stall and things are going
to take time.
Anyway, I have questions, but Iam on board with this a place
to put your drink, especially inwomen's restrooms.
Because ladies, listen to me,do not walk away from your drink
in a bar and leave it.

(45:54):
Take it with you or leave itwith someone you trust, because
all kinds of madness going onout there in the streets the
only thing is is that kind ofweirds me out to take my drink
into the bathroom.
Better than getting roofied.

Josh (46:07):
Well, I'm saying I agree with that, but just the idea
like and I know it's irrational,because if I'm worried that you
know, whatever's in the air isgoing to get my drink, it's
already getting in my lungs, soI don't know.
He talks about Acapulco.
My voice just cracked.
I'm very excited about Acapulco.

(46:28):
He says, back in the 90sRichmond, who is our mutual
friend, and I went to Acapulcofor a week and had a great time.
They saw the famous cliffdivers and had a Harbor bay
booze cruise.
That showed you all the moviestar houses along the coast and
there were many.
The one that stood out to him,frank Sinatra's house.
Oh.
Yep.
Several years ago, Acapulcosuffered from lots of drug

(46:51):
cartel activities.

Amanda (46:52):
See this is my thing.

Josh (46:54):
I remember hearing and reading about the violence going
on down there, and they weren'tjust simple gunshot massacres.
Simple gunshot massacres that'swhere we are right now, but not
that gunshot massacres aresimple by any means.

Amanda (47:07):
This violence involved decapitation of all victims yeah
it was bad, it's bad, it's realviolent.

Josh (47:14):
And so you still don't hear about the city anymore.
It's real violent, and so youstill don't hear about the city
anymore.
Puerto Vallarta, or PV as it'scalled by people in the know,
has kind of taken its place.
Me and my gaggle of gays orexcellency of queers, you know I
love me a good collective nountry to go every year around
Thanksgiving.
It's a short two-hour flightfrom Houston.

(47:36):
It's not uncommon to see lotsof people you know on the flight
and also walking around,brunching, beaching, clubbing,
doing all the things that mypeople love to do.
So they're about to next week,host a really huge worldwide
bear gathering called Beef Dip.

Amanda (47:56):
Yes, Jeff sent us the advertisement for beef dip.
Now what I need to know is areall of the beefy gentlemen
dipping themselves in the ocean,or, like, where is the dipping
coming in?

Josh (48:07):
Yes, I think you know the answer to that.
He says.
I may have told you this in thepast, but my friend Kayvon is
the mascot for their advertisingcampaign and has been for years
, and he did send us the picture.
He asked do people still cantheir food that they grow?

Amanda (48:23):
I think so, so he's on the does this still happen?

Josh (48:26):
thing that you were talking about last week.

Amanda (48:28):
Yes, people still can.

Josh (48:29):
Would you have?

Amanda (48:30):
you ever canned anything ?
My mom used to, because we had,like, my dad was from Southern
Georgia, so we'd go to Georgiaand bring back peaches and my
mom would can peach preserves.

Josh (48:42):
Were they good?
Yeah, Okay, that's interesting.
So he says his grandparents hada ginormous garden and would
have multi-hundreds mason jarsfull of green beans, corn
pickles, cabbage potatoes andstewed tomatoes.
And I do like them now, Jeff, Ididn't used to like them.
They obviously kept us wellsupplied during the year.
The only thing that they had tobuy from the grocery store is

(49:05):
meat, because you had your veg.
And then the last thing he wantsto bring up do people still
ride in the back of pickuptrucks?
I think people are hyper awareof safety these days, so it may
have gone the way of thedinosaur.
I'm gonna tell you not.
So there is a social mediaaccount called Only in Dade and

(49:29):
it just spends its time pointingout the ludicrous and bizarre
and dangerous behavior of peoplein Miami-Dade County, florida.
Again, it's called Only in Dade, also where I grew up.
So not only do people stillride in the back of pickup
trucks, they ride on top oftheir cars.
On i-95 I saw this one thing.

(49:49):
I don't know what led to this,but they were on like i-95,
going really fast, and there wasa woman on the roof of
someone's car clutching on fordear life.
I feel like it may have beenthe end consequence of a road
rage incident.

Amanda (50:03):
Like she leapt from one car to the other.

Josh (50:06):
I think that maybe they were stopped and she did the
thing where, like, I'm gonnastand in front of your car until
the police get here, and theguy was just like, well, okay,
fuck it, and okay, fuck it, andjust decided to go.
So, yeah, so only in day, jeff,there's the answer to that
question.
Do people still ride in thebacks of pickup trucks?
I think I did it a grand totalof once in my life and it was

(50:28):
very ill-advised.

Amanda (50:30):
So my one memory of riding in the back of a pickup
truck was well, there's two, butmy brother had a truck with a
camper on the back of it, so weused to ride in the back of that
, but that felt differentbecause it was enclosed right,
it's just like you were a bunchof uh dice getting ready to be
tossed out.
But like I remember my nephewbeing like three and taking a
nap while we were driving likewe were.

(50:51):
We weren't buckled intoanything like, we were just in
the back of this truck, but thenalso in.
I was at a family reunion inVidalia and I was I don't know
maybe maybe late high school,maybe late high school and my we
had been at my uncle's for acatfish fry, had a catfish pond

(51:14):
and we my dad and my brother no,my dad and my uncle decided
they were going to take thetrash to the dump, cause I mean,
we were out like in a farm,right, and so you had to take
your trash out.
So me and my two cousinsdecided we were going to ride
along.
We get in the back of thepickup truck and they're they're
driving us to the dump.
But what?
They don't drive us to the dump, they drive us to the cemetery

(51:36):
and, unbeknownst to us, mybrother and brother-in-law had
gone ahead and were hidingbehind the graves to jump out
and scare us.
This was like a thing that theyhad decided they were going to
do.
Now I will tell you my family donot drink at family functions,
so this was not like we gotdrunk and decided we were going
to scare the children's likethis was planned sober, and they

(52:00):
pulled up to this like really,you've seen, like those like in
Savannah they're really kind ofgothic looking statues and
cemeteries well, they had thosethere, um.
So there was like an angel,right, a big angel, and my
brother and brother-in-law werebehind it and they jumped out
and the window between the bedof the truck and the cab was
open and all three of us triedto dive into it at the same time

(52:24):
and got wedged.
So that was the last time I wasever in the back of a pickup
truck.

Josh (52:30):
Am I remembering this right?
Did they do a thing where theykidnapped you?

Amanda (52:34):
No, they kidnapped my brother that like, but like very
traumatic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so mybrother was.
It was for his 18th birthday,so I was four and I was insanely
close to my brother I mean very, very close to my brother and
my mom didn't tell me it washappening because she knew I

(52:55):
would tell him.
So his friends came, they brokeinto the house but my mom had
left it unlocked.
My mom took me into a backbedroom but then cracked the
door so she could watch it, andI was watching it too.
My brother was sitting in likea lazy boy kind of chair
watching TV.
Friends with masks came in thefront door, put a bag over his

(53:18):
head and drug him out, kickingand screaming.
I was hysterical and could notunderstand in my tiny
four-year-old brain why my momwas not reacting like, why she
was just watching this happen.

Josh (53:32):
so, yeah, that's a thing that happened to me what a
series of wonderful gifts thatthese family members left for
you, inside of your brain, toopen as the years go by.

Amanda (53:43):
Let's talk about my generalized anxiety.
Holy shit it doesn't.

Josh (53:47):
I don't feel like it's generalized at all.
Um, okay, well, thank you, jeff, for stirring up these memories
.
Good to hear from you.
Well, amanda, it looks likethat's all there is and there is

(54:07):
no more.
I'll be in therapy for the nextweek, or so, oh, I wish a week
could bang that out.
Well, folks, thanks for joiningus.
Please get in touch with us ifyou want to talk to us about
anything.
Um, email us at familiarwilsonsat gmailcom, and I sincerely

(54:29):
hope that until we talk to youagain, you have the best week
you could possibly have.
keep your head down, love yourfriends and family, maybe hop
off of social media for a while,because really it's the matrix
and I want you to break free ofthat mess and, like, have face
to face conversations with folks, after, of course, you listen

(54:51):
to our podcast that's right.

Amanda (54:54):
Have a good week and go be kind bye, that's right.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Have a good week and go be kind.
Bye, bye, thank you.
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