Terms For The Unconditional Plan Not Found

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Let's jump right into it.
Yeah!
Snart!
About time.
I know y'all see y'all see you know we Fuego, we Dexthous, we Cupid up, we Thotties today.

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We Thotties you know what I'm saying we IG Baddies too.
I'm Thottomus Prime, leader of the Thottobots you know.
You love it, you love it.
Welcome, welcome.
Oh shit.
Oh man.
Oh man.
So Jeff.
Jeff, we have a new special guest.

(01:05):
Yes sir.
It's been a long time.
It has actually.
We've had repeats, three repeats but never a new special guest.
That's fact.
In 2025.
In 2025, our first new special guest of 2025.
Yeah, would you like to introduce yourself?
Well hi, hi everybody.

(01:25):
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
Jeff too.
Jeff too.
Everybody knows Jeff one.
Aka Lil Jeff or as Chad.
Potato.
Potato.
I don't know where the potato is.
I'm still trying to calculate.
Are you like a Russet potato?

(01:47):
No, we actually dived into the.
We actually dived into.
He said.
I asked.
I was like what?
See, this is a true inquirer.
That's because you guys were born on the same place.
That's a true inquirer.
The type of potato matters.
But.
Yeah.
That's neither here nor there.
Yeah.
Let's continue our introductions.

(02:07):
So my name is Catherine.
This is my first time doing this.
Cut me some slack.
No, no, no, no.
You're good.
No, I was just reading whether it's not said to Jeff.
So my name is Catherine and I am originally from Florida.
I moved back here.
I'm from Florida.
I'm from Florida.
I'm from Florida.
I'm from Florida.
I'm from Florida.
I'm from Florida.
I'm from Florida.
I'm from Florida.
I moved back here in May of 2024 to pursue a job and to be closer to family.

(02:30):
I work in distribution who are wine and spirits.
We were acting a recall.
What state did you come from?
What state did she wanted in three states right now?
Distribution.
I came from Kentucky.
OK.
Can tuck.
That's my favorite word.

(02:50):
Can tuck.
They're religious races.
I love it.
Can.
All right.
All right.
You know, you know, you because I went to Alabama.
Oh, get it.
Alabama.
You can't have my sister because I want her.

(03:15):
I have some coffee.
Coffee.
All right.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
That's why I went to school.
Oh, shit.
I lived in Alabama for probably like, I'm sorry, gosh, like six or seven years.
No, I went to Alabama.
I went to U.A. So football and so I'll work.

(03:38):
OK.
Fraternity.
OK.
All that stuff is a great time.
Wish I could go back again.
Go back.
OK.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of like, what else?
What else do people usually like?
Let's get into a chat real quick.
Well, not just OK.
So what made you want to besides family?

(03:59):
Like, did you did you just get tired of Alabama or did you OK?
Originally, you're from Florida.
How long were you in Florida?
Yeah.
Before you.
Yes.
I was born here and I moved away when I was three.
So damn.
Yeah, I came back five years minimum to be a real Florida.
Sorry.
Twenty years later.

(04:19):
Damn.
So you really in total like been in Florida like three months, three years, nine months.
Three years.
Oh, so you're like a Florida baby.
OK.
OK.
A Florida Christmas baby.
Damn.
That's different.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have two older brothers.
One of them lives in Tampa.

(04:40):
OK.
That's as far for me.
That's as Florida as it gets.
I feel like Tampa, Miami.
Yeah.
You don't get as Florida.
Miami is a breed of its own.
Yeah.
Oh, that's a different experience.
You've experienced it.
Yes, I have.
They need to branch off and like be their own.
But it's like California.
Can like an earthquake hit and then you just shake off and like float away.
Tsunamis and shit.

(05:01):
But I think that's why a lot of people are moving out of Miami and moving to southwest
Florida or somewhere that's like more rural.
Yeah, for sure.
It's too expensive.
People can afford four or three compared to they pay two grand a month instead of paying.
This is becoming New York.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Yeah.
And then I have a brother that lives in Chicago and my parents are still in Kentucky.

(05:24):
Wow.
So you guys are like I'm sorry about the constellations.
Yeah.
But it's been great like since moving back here, like being closer to my family.
I've it's always something I wanted to like do because I realized as an adult, I have
the choice to like choose where you're free to go.
Right.

(05:45):
So you will.
Exactly.
And I grew up moving around all over and I didn't have a choice when I had to move so
much.
So that's why I decided like I'm going to move back to Florida.
I'm like near my grandparents, my grandmother, my aunt, uncle, cousins, brothers, everybody.
All right, so a quick question for you, since you're like new to not new but new.
But how is Southwest Florida?

(06:07):
Because every time you hear people talk about Southwest Florida, it's like there's nothing
here.
We got to drive everywhere.
Dead as fuck.
Quick as dead.
The straight roads and trees.
What the fuck?
We partying with the Panthers and Gators.
The Panthers are gone, bro.
It's just Gators.
No, that's fact.
I don't know why they still got these Panther crossing signs on it.

(06:29):
I think that's why the cops like four in the morning don't pull you over for doing more
than forty five.
You know what they say?
That's what it is because they'd be saying these Panthers like they have this disease
now or they walk crooked.
Yeah.
Hell no.
It's a motherfucking trooper in a panther suit.
They need jobs.
It's like the birds.
They're not real.
They're not fucking real.
That's not a real Panther.
You're not real.
You're not in a panther suit.

(06:50):
What?
They need jobs, bro.
No, I agree.
Oh, that's Dutch, bro.
Yo, Ricky, I need to wear this tracker.
Put this suit on.
We're going to tag you.
They need footage for the local news.
What the fuck?
That's real.
That's real.
But like since moving back here, honestly, it's like more concrete and construction and

(07:13):
right.
Yeah.
Money's coming in.
I swear to God, if I see another Ontario or Quebec life.
Yeah, yeah, because they all come down here.
And I'm just like, please get off the roads.
You don't know how to drive.
How do you feel about that, though?
Does that not does that excite you or like because like, do you want it to stay quiet
or do you want it to like because without the development, you know, this could be another

(07:38):
Miami.
This could be another Tampa.
This could be another Jacksonville type shit.
You feel me?
You probably have to go to Kentucky.
But like the thing is, the thing is, though, the thing is like with here, though, the cost
of entry is like so.
Did you hear that?
He said Chicago.
Chicago.
You trying to get shot?
I love Chicago.
What's all these parts?
Listen here.

(07:58):
You got to know where in Chicago.
Crime.
All right.
No.
You think that's crazy?
No, that's crazy.
All right.
We're going to go to Chicago.
Chicago.
No, we're going to Chicago.
I know, like all the fun bars and.
Right.
She knows the good Chicago.
Yeah.
You think it murder.
Oh, stop playing.
We're black.

(08:19):
I hate you.
Let me fix your camera.
You're frozen.
You're frozen.
I'm frozen?
No.
Mr. Jeff is.
Do a jig for me.
I think it's because you shook the table.
Turn your camera on.
Great job.
Potato.

(08:40):
No, he's potato.
No, I'm potato.
I thought he was potato.
Yeah, they won't let me shake the potato skin.
I'm bald head.
They won't let me shake that.
What did you do, Jeff?
You see what you did?
I didn't do nothing.
You did something.
I didn't do nothing.
Just keep going.
Just keep going.
But like with everybody coming here and the mass exodus that came down like during COVID.

(09:00):
Yeah.
Honestly, I want.
You want them to go away.
You said it, not me.
I mean, we got one more holiday down here and after that they'll go be.
It just bothers me when you move down from like Massachusetts or New York and you buy
a Jeep truck and you slap a Salt Life sticker on the back of your car and you call yourself
a Polarity and you're not.

(09:23):
Flow grown.
The guys who have flow grown on the back of their pickup trucks are the ones who say they're
a high value man.
That's spooky.
Oh, let's get into that.
And I'm like a dollar general high value.
That's your fault, Jeff.
You did this.
What?
Do you want me to unplug your phone?

(09:43):
This is your hammer fist fault?
I'm going to fix it.
Why?
Oh my God.
Yo.
We're like having this technical technical difficult.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
But like I said, yeah, guys who have the flow grown sticker on the back of their truck like
to call themselves a high value man, but it's like dollar general value.
Well, technically, though, don't you think they put a lot of money in that truck?

(10:08):
Right demographic.
I feel it.
I feel it.
But don't you think they put a lot of money in that?
They put a lot of money in the truck, but they don't put a lot of money into like, I
don't know, buying like body wash.
Damn.
Wait.
So body wash is the criteria?
I mean, it's a basic necessity.
I feel OK.
So if you had the lifted truck and had body wash high value.

(10:32):
No, just because the higher the lift doesn't mean the higher the value.
Right.
What do they call it?
The squat where they lower the back and then lift the front?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's weird.
The squat.
In counties that in like in South Carolina and Alabama, they actually outlaw it.
Really?
I heard.
Right, right, right, right.
Why do they do that out there?

(10:53):
You can't see.
Yeah.
You really.
Oh, for them.
You're looking at the sky.
That's why.
You're looking at the horizon, bro.
Yeah.
You're watching birds.
What the fuck?
That's crazy.
When in Tuscaloosa, there were these groups of guys who were like in high school and they
all had the lifted, squatted trucks.

(11:14):
And there was this place called the Strip and it's where all like the big bars were.
Yeah.
And they were very annoying.
They would like go through at like eleven thirty, twelve o'clock in the morning and
they just like vroom, vroom.
I forgot what they were called.
What they call that?
Parking lot pimping.
Yeah.
What they call that?
Parking lot pimping.
Oh, man.

(11:35):
We just loitering, just bullshitting out in the parking lot waiting for the ladies to
pass by.
That's real shit.
Yeah, that's real shit.
You think you're going to have to copy the camera and you might be cooked this episode.
He's like, fuck it.
Yeah, I might have to imagine his reaction.
Right.
Go ahead.
Do this for me.

(11:56):
Turn the camera off.
Unplug the USB and then plug it back in for me.
That's great.
We do an IT live.
That's crazy work.
I think that's why people like it.
This is real life.
Real experiences.
Oh, yeah.
Let's get to the comments.

(12:18):
Snod says, Lil Jeff, I need you to unbutton the shirt a little, let the chest hair breathe.
I feel y'all strip for y'all at the end.
I might do something sexy for y'all real quick.
Y'all might have to stay after the credits.
Triple T late night.
Yeah.
The X in extended is triple.

(12:40):
Yes, sir.
Smoke says, do you sell slaves?
He heard Kentucky, Alabama.
He said, do you sell?
That's why he said do you sell slaves because they hate everybody if you ain't Caucasian.

(13:01):
She said no comment.
She said no comment.
Smoke says, can we talk about how brother Roach looks like an early 2000s DJ right now?
The DJs at middle school dances.
He said, I need you to change the fit.
Snod.
Oh my God.
Hold on.
Hold on.

(13:22):
Hold on.
Snod.
Every baby born on Christmas needs to have the middle name of Jesus.
Well, mine's Caroline.
Too bad.
Sorry.
I feel you.
Snod, Smoke, you're just jealous of the drip.
Nah, it was a compliment actually.
Thank you, Smoke.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Snod.
What do you think of the hurricanes?
What do you think of the hurricanes?
Oh yeah.
Have you experienced a hurricane yet?
Yeah.

(13:43):
This past hurricane season.
Ian?
I did not experience Ian.
Nah, you ain't had no hurricane yet.
No.
No, no, no.
But the past?
You had a simulation.
You had a summer thunderstorm.
So the first hurricane that came through, what was it?
Nope.
Helene was the first hurricane that came through?
Oh yeah, that was kite flying weather I think.
Yeah, I loved it because I didn't have work and I just stayed home and read.
Yeah, we had to go to work.

(14:04):
And drink.
It was great.
Die for the people.
We were doing the Lord's work.
Oh shit, yeah.
And then Milton, I went to the East Coast.
When was Milton?
That was also last year?
Yeah, it was October.
October, right.
Yeah, and then I went to the East Coast.
And I was in West Palm Beach.
I mean, I've never seen more tornadoes in my life in one area and I grew up in Ohio.

(14:31):
Right.
Like tornado alley type shit.
Yeah, it was insane.
I think we do have the record for most tornadoes.
The tornadoes that went through Wellington was like...
But we don't have like the colossal shit.
I'll be having them fucking god thumbs coming down from the sky.
It will literally pick up entire times.
Yeah, that's crazy work.
That's crazy work.
We get these little skinny water spells.

(14:52):
Yeah.
Let's see.
Snot says, what's your cupid fit, Smoke?
Smoke says potato just looks like that one uncle at everyone barbecue that just bring
weed.
Yeah, that's real.
You got any weed?
Yeah, that's real.
What the fuck?

(15:12):
Bald head.
Bald head is in the chat.
Snot, to be fair, I prefer my potatoes bald.
So...
Black coffee.
Bruce is surprisingly calm.
Oh yeah, Bruce loves the ladies.
Bruce has great energy around the ladies.
Yeah.
Snot, Batman body wash returns.

(15:33):
Yeah, I'm back.
Jeff, you're the highest of all value.
Yeah.
You're the millionaire body wash.
Oh yeah, you smell it like Batman.
Was it like a Barry Knightfall or something like that?
Oh wait, I got a comment for you, Jeff.
The fact that I'm not smelling your cologne right now is like...
Because whenever I would see you out and about and work, I knew you were in the store because...
Oh bro, it's a whole fucking perfume walk-in people.
I didn't have to ask anybody.
I know Jeff.
Jeff was here.
Jeff left his...
I'll show you the collection.
We're going to have to go to the bathroom.

(15:53):
I think I smell like what is the...
No, that's real.
No, that's honestly true.
It's like, no, Jeff was here.

(16:13):
No, you could...
You smell Jeff before you see him.
That's what everyone tells me.
You smell Jeff before you see him.
And then when I talk to him...
And then when he's gone, Jeff was here.
He lingers for like three days.
Well, not even that.
I'll tell people I sprayed it on like five hours ago.
And they're like, oh, I can still smell you.
That's crazy work.
No, bullshit.
Jeff got an IV drip, bro.
Just like right there under his shirt, bro.

(16:34):
It sprays every time somebody comes near me.
No, that's crazy.
It's motion activated.
Like a fucking breeze, yo.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's real.
You think you're going to have to delete my camera and put it back on?
I might have to delete your whole camera.
That's fine.
Just go ahead.
Oh, would you like to...

(16:55):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, hold on.
It's Blasphemous Nugget.
Okay.
Blasphemous.
Okay.
The fact that you won assumed my race and my gender.
Oh, get him.
Get him.
Fucking get him.
You gotta hurry up and fix my camera so they can see my facial expressions.
All right.
Well, you read the comments while I fix your camera.
Start off at Batman Body Wash Return.

(17:16):
Okay.
So Snot says, Coffee Bruce is trying to play it cool to impress the ladies.
Snot also says, I want to see a squat truck do a donut so bad.
Oh, man.
You were about to snort.
She was about to snort.
I got the image in my...
You know what?
I haven't done yet my eye roll.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You see?

(17:37):
See?
It's different when she records herself.
Oh, we got talents?
We got like eye roll talents.
The eye roll.
Yeah.
Whenever I would chat with Jeff about something.
Yeah.
I'm like, are you...
I said eye roll.
Eye roll.
Eye roll.
Eye roll.
Eye roll.
I say your eye's twitching or are you having a seizure?
I'm like, no, I'm not.
No, I'm not.

(17:57):
Twitch, twitch.
After she says it for every sentence, she just like...
It glitches.
Let me turn it off first.
No.
I might actually have to do it.
You're right.
You should have turned it off.
Hold on.
Yeah.
Turn it off.
We going to do it again.
Delete it.
Delete it.
And it's going to be a whole new source, bro.
A whole new source.
That's fine.

(18:17):
What's the...
Smoke says, do you sell slaves?
Is his way of flirting.
Oh yeah, that's what he hit all the ladies with bro.
When I read that comment I was like,
the bitch was too stunning to speak.
No, he lowkey got that king though.
He might, he might.
Whoa.
He might have that domi king bro.
Yeah, he's like.
Yeah.
I mean he's the one that wants to pay 39.99

(18:38):
for his Oni fans so.
Whoa.
Yeah, that was crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm supporting him, that's my boy, I got to.
39.99.
Or a feet finder, we can do feet finder for him though.
Yeah, he just has to pay his toes right.
I'm getting him to lower the entry price though.
Cause I told him like.
He paints his toes white, oh he's that girl.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he does everything.
The white toe dog.
He paints his toes white.
I'm shocked he's 39.99, he paints his toes white.

(19:00):
Yeah.
39.99 is just the entry fee.
Let's see, snot says, oh okay, no.
Oh, is your camera on sir?
No, it's off, I turned it off so you can.
Oh, maybe something, do do do do do do do do do.
Damn Jeff, you just might be.
Oh that's wild.

(19:21):
AFK today.
Sorry brother.
So I guess I'll just be.
No.
Talking to Jeff.
Jeff too.
Sorry bud.
What if you guys like sit.
Oh you want to sit.
Get a wide angle.
You guys are brothers like.
Just merge fusion or some shit.

(19:42):
That'd be crazy.
You should like sit in a way that's like,
it's like the two headed people, you know what I mean?
Like those twins.
Oh, you did something.
Woo.
Yeah.
Yes.
I don't know what's happening on this side
but I can't transition anymore.
I just turned it on and off again.
Well we did that 80 times Jeff.
Are we gonna use the internet?
No, no, I just took out the.

(20:02):
Oh yeah, we're definitely gonna use the internet.
Yeah.
That sounded like.
Am I a Nicki fan?
No, no, I'm saying in the sense of when you transition
are we gonna use the internet?
Oh yeah, we're definitely gonna use the internet.
All I did was take out the fake battery.
Take out the fake battery and put it back in.
Oh.
So wait.
No, I fucked it up.

(20:23):
Damn it.
I'm sorry Jeff.
I hate you.
I goofed.
Why would you, why would.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I might be able to unfuck this up.
Right, right, hold on.
Check this out.
I do have.
Just hit the undo button.
Oh yeah, you're right.
Hit the undo button.
Okay, I got you.
Fat caca.
I got you, I got you.

(20:46):
Oh bam.
I love that you have the Star Trek.
Spock.
Bam, look at that.
Okay, we are back in action.
Okay.
You said Star Trek?
I love Star Trek.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Smoke says it is now 2.99.
It's okay Mr. Guest Jeff.
Is he doing a Black Friday sale?

(21:07):
Oh yeah.
That's just entry, but you have to pay for exclusives.
No, he does have a seven day trial period.
You just need his promo code link.
Yeah, he has a seven day trial period.
And then after seven days it'll bill your credit card.
Make sure, but you can use cash tab if you want.
He got a whole business plan bro.

(21:27):
Holy shit.
Um, uh, do, do, do.
Smoke says, bro, you don't want this smoke again, bro.
Blasphemous, tough, we don't believe in the gender thing.
He doesn't see gender.
Everyone is human.
He believes in-
Amorphous.
Right, amorphous.
Everyone's amorphous.
Absolutely, absolutely, amorphous.

(21:49):
Weren't those those books like growing up
where like the kids would like turn into like an evil?
Animals, yeah, yeah.
I would check out a whole fucking catalog.
Flip them and return them.
What?
Reading?
What?
Who does that?
I wanted the animal of the motherfuckers.
They were like trading cards.
I just collected them.

(22:10):
Wait, they did have a TV show though.
Yes, but we didn't have cable cause we're too poor.
Wait, we did have cable.
It was like Time Warner at the time.
It was the old cable where they spliced it.
That's OG.
Time Warner, yeah, that's real.
That's real.
Not many people know about that.

(22:30):
That's real.
You seem to be talking about a lot about Ohio.
But all I heard is Kentucky and Alabama.
Yeah, what happens in Ohio?
We heard things about Ohio.
Angle her camera a little bit more, Jeff.
No, other way.
There you go, right there.
All right, cool beats.

(22:50):
Thank you, sir.
Yeah, she loves football.
Yeah.
I can't talk about football.
Ohio State's there.
I'm trying to think.
I think they have the world's largest wicker basket
in Ohio.
The fuck is that?
Like a wicker basket.
I'm gonna have to Google that.
We don't know what it is.
We're going on a Google-edit.

(23:11):
It's a wicker basket.
Like a wicker basket.
Like a basket you take to a picnic.
A wicker, are you sure?
Positive, I'm pretty sure.
It's not gonna be no public.
Heinz ketchup is originally from Ohio.
Fucking high-fruit toast corn syrup motherfuckers.
Oh my gosh.
High-fruit toast corn syrup.
See, I have a very strong take that
I think the reason why guys aren't growing past

(23:36):
like five eight or five six.
It's because of that shit.
They, no, it's because they don't put GMOs
with food in them.
Yeah.
That's why I'm a midget.
And everybody's like, oh no, don't drink whole milk.
It's so bad for you.
It's the GMOs that fucking people love.
And then they're giving their kids soy milk
and almond milk.
No, no, no, just give them non-GMO shit.

(23:57):
It's just that easy.
Literally expose them to peanuts and milk
and then your child won't have allergies
and have them touch your ass.
Right.
Well yeah, yeah, yeah.
What ends up, here's the thing with GMOs.
The GMOs fuck with your DNA.
That's why people end up,
why do you think so many people are getting cancer
at such a young age?
That's valid.
We're having so many fucking audioimmune disorders.

(24:21):
So many hormonal disorders.
Dysfunctional fucking weight loss and weight gain.
That's a whole topic.
That's my excuse.
I can totally get into the topic
about how all these additives and things
that are being regulated are actually affecting.
They're fucking you up.
And that feeds into, okay, medical system.
If people are sick all the time.

(24:41):
It's all connected.
Of course.
Yeah.
Of course.
Smoke says, agree, it's not.
It's okay, Mr. Jeff.
I've always told me that I have crack head eyes.
That's crazy fucking word.
You be telling people shit, bro.
I don't sugar coat shit for nobody.
That's crazy.
What, do you want me to lie?

(25:03):
Snot says, no, you could be a little softer.
Oh no, no, I can't cater to people's feelings.
Little Jeff is gonna pay $40 for smokes holes.
I'm not paying shit.
What the fuck?
I ain't paying shit.
I don't know.
And I don't wanna see it for free either.
I don't wanna see it for free.
I'm just surprised.
I'll be the cheerleader on the sideline with the blindfold.

(25:26):
You feel me?
What the fuck?
It's a Valentine's Day discount.
Premium meat snot.
Y'all killing me, dog.
Gunna brain.
Nah.
This is what we deal with every Tuesday.
Yeah, Gunna brain.
Absolute Gunna brain.
This is what we do with every Tuesday.
299, I'm subscribing.
Where the link at?

(25:46):
The hub ain't here no more.
So I need, oh yeah, they did ban that shit out here.
Yeah, you can't put links in the chat.
That's tough.
Y'all gonna actually have to touch grass
and like talk to people now.
Touch grass, breathe air.
Breathe air, it's vitamin D.
Hey, hey, Odin's in the chat.
Vitamin D.
Where's shrimp?
Smoke says, have some class.
Odin!

(26:08):
Yes sir, welcome, welcome.
Welcome, welcome.
Who is this chick?
Who is this chick?
Baldhead, Baldhead.
This chick has a name.
This lady, this woman.
How about you rewind and watch the beginning?
You gonna make them catch up?
Hell yeah.
Oh gosh, okay, fine.
Last time, last time, last time, last time, last time.

(26:28):
Would you like to introduce yourself?
Okay.
You can turn your mic.
You can turn your mic.
Okay, well, hi.
We're doing this just for Odin.
Just for Odin.
Just for Odin.
You're special.
He's gonna be like,
this is your Valentine's day intro, bro.
He's gonna be like, oh my God, for me?
Oh, I know.
Go ahead.
My name's Catherine, and I'm originally from Florida.

(26:51):
Yay!
And I work in wine and spirits distribution.
Yeah.
She transfer souls.
No, I just like bootleg legally.
She moving moonshine, bro.
That's real, right?

(27:11):
We love it, that good shit.
Yeah, I've lived in,
this might be controversial to say where I've lived,
but I've lived in, ready for it?
Kentucky.
Kentucky.
In Alabama.
Oh man.
And she does not sell sleep.
Yeah, I will preface that.
Or loves her cousins.

(27:32):
I have a degree in PR, so I.
Oh word, PR.
That's what's up.
So we gonna see you in the White House anytime soon?
Press?
Honestly, that is like,
that was my dream job growing up.
Word?
I wanted to be a press secretary.
That's still a possibility.
Because I just loved the fact
that I could get up on a stage and yell at people.
That's still a possibility.
Hey, you could be our press secretary.

(27:53):
And Jeff has never seen me pissed.
No, no. Word?
No, she gives me the crazy eye.
No, I feel it.
I hear the, what is it?
I will be extremely stern.
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
I hear the sternness in your speak.
No, I feel that.
No, you could be our press secretary.

(28:14):
Like when we talk shit and you gotta like, you know,
clean it up.
This is what they really mean.
This is what they really meant.
I will freelance, it's okay.
I don't be fire.
I don't be fire.
Do, do, do.
Snot says, how about y'all join on time?
And you know who this chick is.
Snot attendance is mandatory.
You fucking get him Snot.
You fucking get him Snot.
Let him know, bro.

(28:35):
The disrespect will not be tolerated in the chat.
She's the only one that can handle that.
Absolutely.
I love, I love Snot.
She's the only one that can stay with these boys.
I'm telling you, bro.
She be hanging with them.
Yeah, I got two older brothers.
She be hanging with them.
No, I feel it.
I feel it.
Blasphemous knowledge.
All right, bro.
I say we sell Snot.

(28:59):
All right, that's enough for the call.
Let's see what this wicker basket look like.
Oh, you gotta flip it.
Yep.
Wicker basket.
There it is.
This is it?
Yes.
Wait, like, is it livable?
It's a building, yeah.
No fucking way.
Wait, so this actually counts as a wicker basket?
You transitioned, Joe?
No, it's a wicker basket.
Yeah, it's right there.
It's one of the world's largest wicker baskets

(29:20):
or something like that.
Yeah.
Oh, Lord, I didn't transition.
Oh, and there's the Heinz ketchup, the wicker basket,
cedar.
Is it a giant Heinz ketchup?
No, they're factories.
Oh, okay.
All right, gotcha.
And then, do y'all know Cedar Point?
No.
Okay.
Is that like a chip brand or something?

(29:41):
Pfft.
No, it's not.
This nigga.
Oh.
It's a-
Oh, it's a, whoa.
Yeah, it's right next to-
They be throwing motherfuckers off?
Yeah, it's right next to-
Oh, Lord.
Y'all be getting crazy up in Ohio, dog.
Damn.

(30:02):
It's right next to Lake Erie.
They call this the 50-50.
You don't know if you're gonna make it
on the other side, bro.
That's great.
Lake Erie is actually near a nuclear plant.
Oh, shit.
And they used to dump stuff in the water.
And so, there's fish there that are mutated
to be their own breed.
And they have-
Is it Springfield near there?
Like from The Simpsons?

(30:23):
Springfield, I think you think it's Springfield, Illinois.
Midwest, same area.
Same type?
Okay.
Yeah, same type.
So, you're near the Great Lakes.
Can I ask you one cool, fun fact question?
I heard the lakes are so big,
they have their own weather, ocean currents type shit.
Hurricanes can form on the lake.
I can't confirm that, but I can see that happening.

(30:46):
You feel me?
It has its own tides.
Yeah, well, there are certain parts, Lake Michigan.
Lake Michigan, if it gets too cold,
it could be covered in ice, but Lake Erie won't,
if that makes sense.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I feel it.
So, yeah.
Okay, and this is where you're at, Lake Erie.
Now, did they, like, is there anything fun to do out there?

(31:08):
Like, besides what you showed me,
like the big wicker basket?
There's Cedar Point, there's,
they have a lot of sports teams in Ohio.
You have the Cleveland Browns.
Unbelievable.
The Cleveland-
Cavaliers.
Cavaliers, now the Cleveland Guardians.
What do you mean?
They used to be the Cleveland Indians,
now they're the Cleveland Guardians.
They have to change the name because of political correctness.

(31:29):
Well, that's gonna go back pretty soon.
And then they have-
No, you're right.
The Columbus Blue Jackets for NHL hockey.
You think Redskins can have their names back?
They have the Cincinnati Bengals, Cincinnati Reds.
That's true, damn.
Y'all do got hella sports, bro.
Columbus Crew, which is a major league soccer team.

(31:50):
Try and think of it in the same thing,
that's about it.
You got your minor league teams here and there.
But big sports state.
So is that what you originally wanted to do
in terms of with PR and stuff?
Because I feel like there's so much out there.
There's an open field out there.
I tried doing social media
and I just don't like how oversaturated social media is.

(32:12):
I feel like, right.
Everybody thinks PR is social media,
which is a component of it,
but PR is press releases, press pitches,
speaking with stakeholders.
Yeah, but there's so many avenues of social media.
So freelance, like.
You could even, let's say.
There's brand management.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

(32:33):
Stuff like that, there's publicists.
I mean, you're young, I wouldn't give up on that,
especially if you want to.
And I'm getting into,
I'm gonna try to get into doing freelance.
I miss writing,
because I used to be a really good writer.
I think, I mean, I know I still am.
Do you like papers or just books or all around?
And articles, papers,
papers, blog posts and stuff like that.

(32:57):
I remember my parents would peer review my papers
before I would submit them in college.
And they're like, you're really good.
They weren't just lying to you?
No, they were like.
This is like.
No, they actually, my mom would get excited to read my stuff
and she's like, you're so good.
And I'm like, that's not what my professor says.
Yeah, and that's why I'm saying, mother's bias.

(33:19):
They'll tell you that you're doing good.
It's unconditional.
It's unconditional love.
That's unconditional love.
But you know what is not conditional?
Real world love.
Yeah.
Let's get into that.
So yeah, why are we having,
why are we here today, Jeff?
Why are we here today?
Why are we here?
It's a day before Valentine's Day, you know?

(33:39):
And when we did a relationships episode,
it was two and a half years ago.
The beginning of time.
The beginning of time.
When we had our one viewer
and that was us viewing the episode.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Once upon a time.
Once upon a time.
Yeah, so we invited two guests.
One was younger, one was older.

(34:00):
And then we asked them what the difference of the.
Yeah, during their time.
During their time.
Yeah, relationship.
Oh yeah, there's one on every single one,
if you're looking at it.
He has the script.
Oh, you're looking at the little charms.
Oh, the little.
Charms on the mic.
Oh, oh.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He has the Riddler.

(34:21):
Yeah, I hate this Riddler, bro.
I have one that looks like a.
This is not the Riddler, bro.
Looks like a Dominatrix.
No.
No.
You what?
No, that's Catwoman.
Well, same thing.
Same thing.
Same thing.
And then of course I got Batman.
Oh, man.
Same, same.
Same thing.
Same thing, you know.
She uses a whip in everything.

(34:42):
Same thing.
It's all leather.
Yeah.
You know.
Everything rubs together.
You what?
Yeah, but no.
So three years ago we had a conversation
with two lovely young ladies
and we basically asked what the relationship dynamic was
between dating today and dating back in the day was.

(35:03):
One was in her 40s and the other one was 25 at the time.
And they're basically giving us their perspective
of what that was because of course,
everybody has a different mindset
of how they look at dating in today's society.
And so we're revisiting it three years later.
Yeah.
And of course we have a new special guest.

(35:27):
So now, please indulge us.
Oh yes.
Yeah, give us like, what's been your experience?
And you can give us your dating experience anecdotally.
Yeah, anecdotally.
Or you can go.
Or you can go.
Because like I can, or you can give us a subjective view

(35:47):
of what you think it is.
I would say it's like very difficult.
Okay. Nowadays.
Okay. With dating.
Dating, 2025.
Give us a rundown.
What's been your experience?
Yeah, we're like old people.
Right.
So we gotta listen to you.
We do things classically.
We gotta listen to a youngin.

(36:08):
Me and my best friend,
we say that it's like Kuwait 08 out here
and we're just fighting.
Please explain this to an old man.
Kuwait 08?
Yes, please.
It's war.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, war in Kuwait.
Yeah, it's this war out here.
Okay.
You know, we didn't get the last chopper out of Nam.
Gotcha.
We're stuck, we're stranded.
They got off the ground, but then they got shot down.

(36:29):
Yeah.
It's like a guerrilla war tactic.
Yeah, I feel it.
I feel it.
How has the dating landscape changed
from when you've started to when, well, from?
When I started actively dating?
Yeah, when you started, yeah.
When I was in high school,
I wasn't really into dating.
I was academically driven.

(36:50):
Gotcha.
I was part of clubs and I had my friends.
She's a nerd.
And then when college hit, I was like,
oh, this is an intro to real young adult freedom.
So that's when I started using dating apps.
And it wasn't until I was 20
that I actually wanted to seriously date.
And figure out my standards and my boundaries,

(37:14):
what I want, what I don't want.
And I started at the worst dating app possible.
I started on Tinder.
Tinder.
It's off.
No, it should be called the Boinky Nap.
Because that's off.
No.
That's why everyone.
Well, I mean, I was 19 when I got on it.

(37:36):
And then I turned 20.
And I met my first ex-boyfriend on that app.
So, but it was just a lot of it.
Looking back on it now,
you really realize that a guy asking
for your Snapchat is not romantic.
No, no, no.
It's not.
It's kind of like a.

(37:56):
So through your experience, what's your expectation?
Up until, so from when you first started to now.
So looking at who you are now,
what is the expectation?
And once you set that expectation.
Standards.
Right, the standard.
What do you expect from yourself to give to that partner?

(38:18):
Partner, yeah.
Right.
Right, because it's easy to expect from others.
But what do you expect from yourself
to put onto that partner?
How will you make that partner better or, you know,
how do I say it?
Coexist.
Yeah.
The dynamic.
The dynamic.

(38:38):
Yeah, I got you.
I want to be like someone's cheerleader,
if that makes sense.
Like I want to like support them.
Yay!
And you know, be there for them.
I'm also somebody who believes in the whole,
like I believe in marriage.
I believe in having like the nuclear family
and having children.

(39:00):
Like I'm somebody who wants to be a mom.
You can't say that 2025 is controversial.
That's spooky shit.
That's spooky shit.
What?
It's very controversial.
So.
That's spooky shit.
It's, I also want to be able to give the man-mate,
like I've started prefacing between boy and man,

(39:20):
because there's a huge difference between the two.
Yeah, yeah.
So the man that I end up with,
I also want to be in my feminine energy,
because there's that dynamic that not.
You want to be able to submit kind of sort of.
Not in that sense.
Not in that sense, but like.
I want to be able to like turn my brain off.
Like I don't think I have to wear the pants.

(39:42):
He can take the fucking helm.
Take the wheel.
Yes.
Right, I got you.
And then when he tags you in,
you're good to go.
I got you.
Yeah, like people are like,
oh, I want a 50-50 relationship.
But what they mean is like,
oh, we both go in on the mortgage.
We both go in on this.
It's a financial aspect of things.
But for me, what I mean is like going in 50-50 is like,

(40:03):
we support each other.
Gotcha.
We uphold each other.
So do you think every time you hear the word 50-50,
especially on social media.
When people say 50-50,
they're thinking like on paper, bills, money.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, and it's like.
So that's how I come when you're, like I said,
social media is highly skewed.
So when you're hearing these people say,

(40:23):
oh, I don't want a 50-50 guy,
in their mindset, they automatically jump into money
when it could be talking about something else.
But here's the thing though.
Like if there's a caveat to dating now,
capitalism is a big part of it.
Of course, of course.
It's a struggle. Money is a big part of it.
Like that is the fact of it.

(40:44):
And unfortunately, if you don't have the funds,
you shouldn't be dating.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm a firm believer that like.
You shouldn't be dating.
Like you shouldn't have kids if you can't.
Right. Financially.
Right.
You need to be in a space where you know
what your plan in life is,
how you're gonna make money.
Like if you know how to make money,
you will know how to date.

(41:04):
Yeah, for sure.
You see what I'm saying?
Because money won't be the point of contention
for everything.
For everything, yeah.
Absolutely.
And I'm somebody who, I'm a firm believer.
Like my mother taught me this.
You need to learn to love yourself
before you can love anybody else.
Boom.
Because how can you care and love for somebody
if you can't.

(41:24):
Care for yourself.
Care for yourself.
Sensation, right.
Thank you.
That's right.
So I am a firm believer that before you,
like really get serious about dating,
really want to settle down and commit to somebody,
you need to figure yourself out.
And you need to have experiences
and you need to work on the relationships with,

(41:47):
the relationship you have with yourself,
with your family, with your friends.
That's real.
Yeah, no, you're right.
That's real.
That's what I be saying.
Who are you?
Who are you?
Exactly.
Before you pour your identity into somebody else.
What the fuck are you?
Because if you're living,
because I look at it this way,
sorry for interrupting.
No, you're good.
But I look at it this way.
If you don't know who you are as a person

(42:09):
and you take your identity and pour it into a young woman
or vice versa and then you can't do anything
without that person, then when they leave, you're lost.
Yeah.
You're like, what the fuck do I do?
Everything I did, I did for her
or everything he did, he did for,
or everything she did, she did for him.
So they don't know who they are in general.

(42:31):
So it's like, figure out who you are, love yourself,
all that stuff like that first
before you jump into a relationship.
Yeah, some people look to a relationship
to find who they are.
Or they are.
Like this person will define me.
They will fill my other half.
They're my, I don't like that.
You're my other half.
Well, cause like at the end of the day, you really,
this is like so like heavy and twisted and dark to think,

(42:54):
but like at the end of the day, you only have yourself.
Yeah, like I said.
Your friends leave, people get divorced, they break up.
Only love that's unconditional.
Children are your mom.
Or a dog.
You decide to like remove yourself from like your parents,
you know, at the end of the day, you only have yourself.
Yeah.
Gosh, I had another point and I lost it.

(43:15):
But I kind of like learned that,
oh, now the point's back to me.
I took a sociology class at the community college
when I was in high school.
And we talked about relationships.
Gotcha.
And my teacher made a very good point
about the reason why she wanted to marry her husband.

(43:38):
She said, I didn't need a man.
Like I had a career.
I was successful.
I had education, but she's like, I wanted him.
I wanted him in my life.
So she's like, I may have not needed him, but I wanted him.
Like there's a difference between need and want.
And it kind of goes back to like,
if you say you need a man in your life,

(43:59):
then I think you need to take a step back.
You need to take a step back.
Evaluate. Right, right.
Because I also learned that
before you commit yourself to somebody,
make sure you have your education.
Make sure you have something that you can fall back on.
Because if it doesn't work out.
If it doesn't work out.
Nothing's forever.
Nothing's forever.
Yeah, yeah.
You can't be dependent on that,
solely dependent on that person.

(44:20):
So that's why I kind of go back to the whole like,
need to learn to love yourself and like figure yourself out
because like get your education, travel the world.
Like make mistakes, meet people, learn lessons.
I mean, go on as many dates as you want.
And so much for the purpose of like,
learn what you like, what you don't like.

(44:40):
What are your boundaries?
What are your standards?
Shit, go to therapy.
Like I highly recommend people go to therapy.
Like I didn't get deep into therapy until like,
I went through my first breakup in college
with my first boyfriend and thought the world
was like crumbling all over me.
Was that before you knew who you were as a person?
Yeah.
So did you kind of just pour everything into it?

(45:01):
When was the thing?
I don't think we ever know who we are.
No, of course.
Until the end.
Of course.
Yeah, I mean, I was 21 and he was 24.
He was older than me.
Gotcha.
So I was like, oh my gosh, like I have an older boyfriend.
It's like, yeah, bitches.
You what?

(45:22):
And I mean, like I did a lot of,
like I planned dates and I paid for a lot of things.
Damn.
Hey, it's 50-50.
50-50, 50-50.
That's before you knew, but that was before you knew.
Yeah, I feel it.
One of my standards is like,
I do like when a gentleman pays for things.

(45:43):
Takes the initiative.
Takes the initiative.
And it's not so much of like,
oh, I don't wanna like,
I mean, I'm okay with paying for things.
I think it gets, like you do get to a certain point
in a relationship where,
yeah, like I'll pay for the state.
Like, yeah.
There's just something about,
for me, when I see a man who's able to pay for something
for the both of us,
my brain signals it as he's a provider.

(46:05):
Gotcha.
Okay.
And that's, I know that's very caveman,
but like, if you really go back to like-
You can't probably.
It's not because-
It's human nature.
Like we did that episode on higher
and lower brain.
Higher and lower brain function.
At the end of the day,
at the end of the day.
We have things that prevents us from doing stupid shit.
But only what?
1%.
1% away from monkeys.
Unfortunately.

(46:27):
That's what it is.
Sorry.
Yeah, unfortunately.
Yes, but that's what it is.
Unfortunately, at the end of the day,
like even if some people try to do the resisting
of the, I don't wanna provide,
it's an innate thing.
You get what I'm saying?
It's not something that we can shut off.
It's there.
It's the thing with theory.
When it comes to actuality,
when it comes to nature,
that's where nature always fucking wins.

(46:48):
Yeah, for sure.
Because we can theorize all these ways
and all these dynamics,
but at the end of the day,
the basic instinctual thing we wanna do.
It's like the women who advocate for the feminist movement,
who are like, I don't need a man.
I can do everything on my own.
Now a lot of them are coming forward
at their 38 and they're like, I'm miserable.

(47:11):
I wanted to be married.
I wanna have kids now.
Now it's like too late.
Yeah, I mean, and it sucks too,
because you got one life
and then you guys have a time limit too.
So it's not like you can go back and say,
all right, let me fix the mistakes that I've made
and then try to move forward.
It's just like, I have a finite amount of time.

(47:31):
And the thing is, the counterpoint to that would be like,
oh, well, freezing eggs or surrogate and all that.
But even then, now that's,
you just divided an entire class.
Like not everyone can afford to do those.
50,000, 50,000.
It's a lot of money.
That's a lot of fucking money.

(47:53):
That's the thing about surrogacy is that,
I don't think people realize
when women actually have children,
like the connection that you have as like the baby
develops in you, you swap DNA.
It's taking the fluids, the DNA, absolutely.
You're feeding it, you're nurturing it,
you're housing it.
Your immune system, all that.
Exactly.
It bonds.

(48:13):
It starts bonding with you immediately.
And so then when you have a surrogacy,
it's kind of sad because that woman
that carried that baby for nine months,
she's created that bond without even realizing
until the child comes.
Comes out.
Comes to life and into this world.
And then it's taken away and it's given to some woman who.

(48:35):
It's cold, it feels empty.
Exactly.
But like, where does that stem?
It stems from that idea.
That I'm not saying it's wrong,
but like controlling nature like that.
Yeah.
Breeds consequences.
It does.
It does.
Like nature is what it is for a reason.

(48:56):
You know, and yeah, we are smart.
We can.
And we're pushing back against it all the time.
And we push it all the time.
And it will get upset.
But like you said.
It gets upset.
But like you said, you said a lot of young women
will push against what they're naturally inclined to do,
but then when they finally realized,
oh, this is what I want, it's kind of too late for them.
Yeah.
It's like all those women who are like,

(49:17):
I don't need a man.
And I'm like.
You say that now because you're young.
It's funny that you say you don't need a man,
but when he texts you at 2 a.m.
You need something to.
You do.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Sorry, not sorry.
Right.
No, it's real.
Ooh.
Let's jump into the comments real quick.
Snot says, okay, now question for the dudes.

(49:37):
Oh no.
Ooh, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, you got.
That's.
Ooh.
Little Jeff question her question like she's.
Question, okay, Jeff questions her like she's a weather.
Weatherman.
Hold on, where is that Jeff?
Hold on.
What?
You lost it?
I did lose it.

(49:57):
Right there.
Oh.
There it is.
Yep, like she's a weatherman.
Yeah.
Odin is tweaking.
He says women are the problem.
Smoke says agreed.
Odin, if women are the problem,
I mean he wouldn't be here today.
Oh, don't worry, Snot got your back.
You know what I'm saying?
He's gonna get to that call.
Like, you know, smoke agreed.
Blasphemous facts, blasphemous she's lying.

(50:19):
Smoke, hold up blasphemous.
Let's hear her out real quick.
Snot, are all the hosts single?
The chat seems thirsty.
There you go, see, she got your back.
She got your back.
Ah ha.
The chat is thirsty right now.
You know, they're trying to.
But I like, I like Smoke.
Cause Smoke is the one that does our clips for us.
But he's the one that's saying,
hold on, let's hear her out.
Before you automatically start assuming.
I love Smoke.

(50:39):
Yeah.
Smoke uses the noodle.
Smoke, I'm trying to hear all the facts before I flame her.
Stay toxic, Kings.
Ha ha ha.
You what?
Ha ha ha.
Y'all do it.
Y'all do it.
Y'all do it.
Pop off, King.
Y'all do it.
You do you, King.
Yeah.
King, go be a high value man, King.
Ha ha ha.
Don't forget your crowns, King.

(51:00):
Don't forget your crown, King.
Oh man.
Polished it up.
Yeah, good.
Smoke says she has a couple good points.
Thank you.
Snart, okay, now a question for the dudes.
Do y'all like paying for a woman's dinner?
Why or why not?
Yeah.
Do you want to know why?
Here's the thing that dictates my-
Well you gotta ask for the yes or no first.
Okay, I do not mind.
Do you want to know why?

(51:21):
Why?
And this has nothing to do with like,
okay, I've seen my mom grow up.
Taking care of all four of us by herself.
By herself.
Doing things a man should've fucking-
We were raised by women, so.

(51:41):
Raised by women, written by women.
You feel what I'm saying?
So in my mind, like, I want to be able to do everything.
Yeah.
And let her still do her shit.
Yes.
Yeah.
And if she wants to do her shit or help me or whatever,
sure, but if I got it, we're locked.

(52:01):
And there's like that dynamic of like,
you've gotta trust me though.
Right.
Right.
That's what I'm saying.
But it's like, you can't fight me.
Like, you gotta trust my wisdom.
You feel me?
Like, you gotta trust my wisdom.
What's relinquish?
Is that the-
I guess, right, right, right, right.
Yeah, relinquish.
Yeah, relinquish, right.
And just trust and let go.
Right.
Yeah.

(52:22):
And that's all I ask.
Trust and respect and that's it.
That's it.
And I already see you as an equal person
because, you know what I'm saying, we are all human.
I believe you believe.
We are, at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying?
Like, we're here to experience,
for the human experience to experience life.

(52:44):
And we're each doing our own thing,
but we can share that experience.
It adds more to who we are.
So as long as we have that understanding, bro,
and it's like, you respect me and, you know,
you just let me just, yo, if I figured it out,
like I can see shit in my head, I figured it out.
You know, here are the fruits of my labor.

(53:05):
Just trust me, I got this.
And if you got an idea, all right, put it to the table.
Put it to the table.
You know, I invest in that idea.
We'll explore it, yeah.
We'll explore it.
It's a team effort.
Right, we'll explore it.
Because I value what you're saying.
You come from an entire different human experience.
And all you ask is for trust.
And all I ask you is to trust me.

(53:26):
The same way I'm trusting your ideas.
And people, when they hear the word trust,
they're like, they freak out.
They're spooky.
I think if you're mature, if you're emotionally
and mentally mature enough, you realize that like,
obviously trust is earned, which means it takes time.
So you're not gonna immediately have it over time.
Like, I feel like you will always like gradually,
as you're with that person, you will earn it.

(53:48):
Does that make sense?
It will develop, and like the trust will strengthen.
So.
Fix her camera.
My camera, what's going on with my camera?
Oh, she's more on the edge.
Come on, you're on the edge.
You got to send her.
There you go, that's perfect.
Sorry.
No, no, but yeah, and then of course, yeah,
yes, I would pay.
Because of course I was the oldest son,

(54:09):
so grew up fast, had to be the dad.
Had to be the dad.
Why?
That's why we're working.
This is why people are like, you're old.
You're old.
When I was 25, they thought I was 30.
Yeah.
I'm now 34, they think I'm 40.
Bro.
You're 34, I thought you were like 32, 33.
You see.
Look at that, I appreciate that.
Is that sunscreen?

(54:29):
No, that's that Batman soap.
What you talking about?
The Batman, bro, you just bought it last week.
It's the age tube man.
What the fuck?
We got some new serum now.
Oh man, I just watched my favorite.
Oh, we got the secret sauce.
Okay.
So me having to grow up fast, working early as a kid,
and just watching like the Family Matters and all that.

(54:52):
I watched old school shit, right?
All these old school shows.
The Brady Bunch.
Yeah, I would literally watch the father figure
and how they moved and then the mindset of them.
I would clock it.
I would clock it.
I would clock it.
Because I'm like, all right, my mom is moming.
And when she has to be stern, she's stern,
but I know she's not what the dad should be.
What the dad, yeah.
But I'm watching TV, I'm like, all right.
Well, there's this saying that,

(55:17):
it's like the man is something,
but the woman is the heart, like the soul.
The man is the mind, but the woman's the head,
and the woman's the heart.
Yeah, it's a Christian thing.
The man's the head, the woman's the body.
Yeah.
Or the neck.
The neck, sorry, the woman's the neck.
I'm sure it's the soul.
So I don't know.

(55:37):
This is the neck!
You know what I mean.
What?
But I think that it's very true.
Very true.
That dynamic.
And I think when you first start dating somebody,
don't immediately go into the whole idea of like,
is this person gonna be my wife?
Is this person gonna be my girlfriend?

(55:58):
I think you should go in, like, can I respect this?
Can I learn to respect this person as a person?
That's why I believe that when you first start
dating somebody, ask yourself,
would I be friends with this person?
Right.
Because if you think, where do you think it's saying?
This real!
What do you think it's saying,

(56:18):
like, oh, I married my best friend, came from?
That's real, no, that's real.
So quick questions for you.
When you go into dating somebody,
especially for you youngins,
do you guys like, pour out the expectations?
Like, not expectations, but what your goal is?
Will you see yourself in the future?
Like, do you want kids?
Do you see this?
Yeah, like, how do you lay it out?

(56:39):
Yeah, how do you lay it out?
First thing, you gotta set up the date.
Or you guys just talk about random things.
So I'm saying like, is this a business meeting?
Like, these are my expectations.
We're trying to-
I need you to be punctual.
I'm folio with questions.
I need shirts tucked.
Belts buckled, what the fuck?
A body's washed.
Wake up at 7 a.m.
What?

(56:59):
Absolutely.
Your car better be parked straight.
That's wild, that's wild.
Oh man.
Yeah, how does that work?
Well, yeah, what is, yeah, like,
if you can give us your anecdotal experience,
when like, when you go out on a first date,
like, what do you,
and it doesn't have to be somebody specific,
it could just be any dates that you've been on,
like, what do you specifically let the guy,

(57:21):
like, tell the guy when you're talking to them?
I kind of, I don't jump into being like,
I wanna be married, I wanna be a mom,
I wanna have extra mom.
I'm out!
50-50!
50-50!
Bro, you just see the smoke cloud, like the dust cloud.
50-50!
That does scare them.
Nowadays, guys are like,
children, I should be your only child

(57:43):
you have to take care of.
Why about the children?
The children?
The children!
Oh, that's spooky!
The mother's hand!
That's spooky!
The mother's hand!
That's spooky.
Oh my God.
Like, I remember my first boyfriend,
I was so scared to talk about wanting kids
and being married because he's my first boyfriend.
Gotcha.

(58:04):
And I thought that would run,
because I knew that that relationship wasn't gonna last,
so I could kind of sense that, like,
I don't think he wants that.
And that was when I was like,
and then my second relationship I got into,
it was like, first week in, what's your baby names?
It was like, I don't remember, I told you.
Yeah, you know.
I wanna be under your skin.

(58:24):
You know the whole nine yards of that space.
Yep, we don't have to recap that.
No, we don't.
There are so many details of that, like, oh Lord.
That's spooky activity.
And then.
Go ahead.
And that freaked you out.
That freaked, yeah.
But then in my mind, I was like,
oh, it's so hard to find somebody who wants to be married,

(58:46):
that wants to have kids, I need to hold onto this.
Gotcha.
And then I realized that I was like.
You don't have to, yeah.
Yeah, it was too fast.
I think those things that you guys,
those things in life that you desire,
they will come out eventually.
Like if things are gonna, like,
are a gradual build and it goes slowly,

(59:08):
and like, cause you know what they say,
slow and steady wins the race.
So I think over time, those things will come out
and you'll sense those things in them too.
I have a question.
Yes.
Okay, so this is gonna be like,
nice big block question.
Okay.
So with today's dating, from the outside looking in, right?

(59:30):
Cause you know, I'm still old school with this shit.
I walk up to the cashier or something.
You're 30.
I walk up to the cashier and be like, hey, you know,
groceries and shit, whatever.
But when you're, when you commodify dating like this,
or it's just like, I don't even have to go out to meet
someone apps.
Yeah.

(59:51):
You're lowering that threshold for work and reward.
So it's like when it's that easy to just,
I don't know, like the word too many options
is an understatement.
It's like not too many options.

(01:00:11):
It's like the access to the options is easy.
Easier.
Well, sometimes you have to pay for it.
Right.
To access more options.
This is crazy.
Do you see what I'm saying?
It's been commodified.
So it's like, I feel like a lot of people don't realize
how that warps the brain.
And in another question I wanna ask is,

(01:00:32):
like in terms of finding a long-term partner, right?
Because we're constantly becoming a better
or higher version of ourselves.
If we're actively working.
If we're actively working.
Well, everything in life is a lesson.
No matter what the lowest point you are,
that is a lesson.
And you only go up.
That's my motto.
You only go up.
No matter how far down you go,

(01:00:53):
the only way to go is up.
Is up, yeah.
So it's like no matter where you meet someone in their life,
they're constantly actively becoming a new person.
And you five years ago,
yourself didn't know what you wanted as a person.
So could you assume that five years from now,

(01:01:14):
you will be a different person?
Oh, most definitely.
Now, my question is, let's say you do find a partner.
Okay.
Won't you also, won't that partner
also be a different person as well?
Yes, and I think that's where you have to like,
learn to accept how people change.

(01:01:34):
And that's the whole point of like you grow together.
Now, can I preface this?
Yes.
Now, when it comes to like, right,
we all have our standards.
We have our, right.
Now is there, are you setting like, okay,
he hits all these marks, but this one thing is a red flag.

(01:01:56):
I'm out.
It depends on what the red flag is.
I gotcha.
Like if it's,
like if he, like I wanna have kids.
So like if he's like, oh, I don't wanna have kids.
I mean.
Five years, that might change.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, but it's a big,
I mean, that's a big deal.
And I mean, you're bringing life into the world.

(01:02:18):
So that's kind of like,
if you don't wanna bring life into the world,
but I do, like that's kind of.
Yeah, on top of that, you don't wanna waste five years
waiting to. Yeah.
And ultimately.
I'm like definitely.
Yeah. I want that.
And you need to be definite about that.
I think ultimately the issue with dating on,
like if I could sum it up,
there's no respect for time.

(01:02:38):
And we don't realize how little of it we have.
We have, yeah.
I feel like people are rushing it based off of this idea
that we're all on a clock.
That like by a certain age, we need to be married.
By a certain age, we have kids and have a house.
And I don't think that's the case
because we're all on our own individual clock.

(01:03:00):
No, no, no, right, right, right.
Yeah. Mentally.
But nature.
Remember, we always try to fight nature.
We do.
We always try to fight nature.
Nature has the clock.
Chromologically, yeah, sure.
We could have all the time in the world.
But nature has a clock.
Yeah.
And I mean.

(01:03:21):
And I'm not here to say, you know,
cause we have free will.
We have free will.
Yeah, do whatever you want.
Do whatever you want.
I'm not here to say you have to do this.
I just want everyone to know
this is the nature of reality.
This is what it is.
You must make the decisions you make
knowing what the consequences will be in the future.

(01:03:43):
And like you said, 38 and wanting kids.
You feel me?
That's why like,
I think you really need to like learn about yourself.
And then when you date, be serious.
Be serious.
Don't compromise morals, values, ethics.
Be serious.
And take your time.
Don't rush it.

(01:04:03):
Because you don't want to like end up marrying
the guy from college.
I'm trying to like.
And then break up with him.
And then get divorced.
And now you're screwed with two cars, kids and a mortgage.
Yeah.
And it was the wrong person.
But you thought, oh my God,
all my friends are getting married right now.

(01:04:24):
I've got to get married.
And then dating I've realized is more difficult
for single moms.
Because if you have a kid,
then you're automatically disqualified for.
From a certain. From a certain.
Bracket of. Of men that you're looking at.
Or even if you do get into the dating,
they don't really take it as serious.
Yeah.
It's more just to sleep with you

(01:04:44):
and then move on to the next.
More than to date you
and then see us being together long-term.
Long-term.
Not saying it doesn't happen.
Not saying, right.
It does.
Like these things happen.
Like that's. Yeah.
Like that happens.
But like.
It's more difficult.
It's more difficult.
It's harder to navigate.
Because her priority is going to be her children.
Oh, absolutely.

(01:05:05):
At the end of the day.
Yeah, any mother's priority.
So, right.
So you expecting a normal.
Like he's working harder now.
Yeah, well he's got to realize,
I mean like it's a lot of pressure
and you got to step up to the plate.
Know what you're getting into.
Yeah, because you are potentially
stepping into being their father figure.
And that's a biggie.
That's a big.
Well the first thing too is you don't want to introduce

(01:05:26):
children to a man that you know might not stay.
Exactly.
So, that's another factor.
And then to go back onto your point about
how like easily accessible dating apps are.
I feel like it's starting to make people disposable.
Because we can swipe.
Very.
Very.
And we're like, oh no.

(01:05:47):
Very.
No, and I think it's, that's where we've lost the.
It's gross man.
There's a lot of different factors.
Sobbing activity.
This bleeds into my next question.
What do you feel is better,
or would be better for people your age?
Would it be cold approaching like they used to?
Or the dating apps?

(01:06:09):
It's so hard because.
People just need to touch the ground.
Cold side.
Yeah, cold approach.
Yeah.
Cold touch the ground.
Cold side, please.
The sun's right there.
You know the sun provides vitamin D.
That's good for your skin.
That's a good vitamin.
That's a good vitamin D.
Everything, your hair.
That's a good D.
Nature.
That's a good D bro.
You know it's out there fairies.

(01:06:30):
The pretty ladies, they outside bro.
The birds and the bees.
And like they outside bro.
Like they always say the worst thing
a person can say is no.
And then you move on to.
Right, you ain't gonna die if they say no.
It's a good question.
That's a good point you make
because we are so fearful of rejection.
And I think that's because we live
in such a narcissistic society.
And that leads, you know,
I blame that on the rise of social media.

(01:06:52):
Yep, the bubble.
And technology.
Me, me, me, me, me.
Look at me, look at me.
I'll miss the basics.
And then we have like internet.
Like.
Brain.
No, like influencers.
Oh, okay.
Like nothing is as real as it seems.
Brain rot.
Yeah, brain rot.
It is brain rot.
Yeah, it's just brain rot.
And I think.
Everyone's just living in a fantasy

(01:07:14):
where it's like.
And they wanna be like everybody.
Like every guy wants to, you know,
date an Instagram model.
Right.
Instagram model.
Instagram model.
They're not real.
They're not real.
These aren't real people.
They're like surgery'd up.
They're like filtered up.
Exactly.
Everything up.
Everything is not what it actually is.
A lot of, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
And that's why my brother and I

(01:07:34):
will have these conversations sometimes
in the sense of like,
we'll see, like sometimes we'll read these comments
on these videos and they'll be like,
they'll spit game.
But then you see them in real life
and it's like they don't even know how to talk to somebody.
It's because they're behind the screen.
Exactly.
It's easy to be whoever you want.
And that's like where I think we've run into the issue
with technology is because we don't,

(01:07:55):
we don't know how to like socialize.
Right.
We don't know how to socialize behind a screen.
Exactly.
And it kind of goes to like, you know,
those keyboard warriors and all that stuff.
Like it's so easy to say those things
when you're behind a screen.
Of course.
But when you're in person,
oh, you would not have the guts.
Of course.
And what I think is,
is just a projection of internet fantasies.
Exactly.
Like, and that clashes with actual real life.

(01:08:15):
Like, and that works for, you know, men and women.
Like we have these fantasies that we see online
of like these cookie cutter stories, you know,
these edited vlogs of this perfect couple.
Right.
Right.
And then that is the expectation.

(01:08:35):
So a relationship is never work.
It's never hard.
It's always easy.
He always gets me.
He always does everything right.
Because they're always-
We never fight.
Because they're always-
We never have a disagreement.
A point of contention.
A couple that doesn't fight, that's a red flag.
That's a red fucking flag.
A relationship is not supposed to be perfect.
A marriage is not supposed to be perfect.

(01:08:55):
No, it's hard work.
You ask somebody who's been married
for like 50 something years, 60 something years,
like how, like what's the secret?
And it's like, they'll say odd things like,
it's because we fought.
We fought.
We've gone through our shit.
Because-
We've gone through things together.
Right.
And it's, I think that's another thing going back to,
you know, you gotta make sure you pick the right person.

(01:09:16):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Because there was like this TikTok I saw of this girl.
Like she asked her mom,
like when did you know our dad was the right one for you?
And she was like, I thought about what if my mother dies?
Who would be there for me?
Would he be there for me?
I thought about like, oh, what if I get cancer?

(01:09:38):
Would he be there for me?
We lose a child, would he be there for me?
Gotcha.
And she was like, yes, yes, yes.
So it's like, think about like,
if you ask yourself those questions and you,
it's you're questioning him, it's not it.
It's not it.
No.
If it gives you cause for pause,
it's a disaster.
But that's the difficulty in today's society,

(01:09:59):
especially with young men.
It's like most of the things that people in like-
It's instant gratification.
It's fucked.
So it's like most of the things that,
most of the things or duties that men would do today,
they no longer are doing it.
But it's like, as you can see,
it's always the blame game.
It's her fault, it's his fault, it's his fault,
it's her fault.
We all wanna point things out.

(01:10:20):
Exactly, exactly.
And I think that's the biggest issue,
but nobody's looking at themselves.
They're always trying to blame somebody else.
If something happens to them-
Nobody wants to take full responsibility
to actually work on themselves.
Oh yeah, for sure.
When I, I mean, at first I was like,
when I went through my first breakup,
I was like, I didn't do anything wrong.
I didn't do anything wrong.
It's all him, it's all him.
And then when I was going through it in therapy

(01:10:42):
and I was trying to actively see from his point of view
of why he made the decision to not be with me,
that's where I was like, oh, okay.
Now there were some things I could have done differently.
So you're self-aware.
Yes, and I learned how to be self-aware
and I don't think people are self-aware.
That's spooky, it's rare, it's rare, it's rare.

(01:11:03):
I always tell them the way I describe it to people.
And I mean, in the moment, am I self-aware?
Sometimes I'm not, sometimes I'm not.
No, no, right, right, right, right.
It's not an active thing.
But when I reflect on things, then I'm like, oh, that, yeah.
Okay, and keep that in my brain.
There were two points that came to my mind.
One is like, okay, the father figure dynamic.

(01:11:24):
Gotcha.
Because they set the example of their sons.
And the sons have the choice of whether or not
they wanna find that to be acceptable or.
Unacceptable. Or unacceptable.
And they wanna change their things.
The second thing is, I mean, I went to Alabama.
So everybody thinks, sorority girls.
Everybody thinks blonde hair.
They rob us of Alabama, stays in Alabama.

(01:11:46):
Fake tan, skinny, sorority girls.
Oh, okay, I feel it.
Yeah, and I mean, I'm gonna be honest.
Like dating, going there was very difficult
because I, a lot of my friends, I mean,
I had friends who were blonde,
but a good bit of them were like redheads or brunettes.
Like they weren't a lot of, like,
and we found that it was very hard for us

(01:12:07):
to be the rare breed on campus of being the brunette.
And I was like talking about it with my therapist.
I was like, yeah, I really wish that like,
I was the girl that, you know, was picked like the blondes.
And I was like, why, like, why is it that like guys

(01:12:28):
always like go for that?
And she said that guys usually go for something
that is familiar and common in their environment.
And that's something you see, you see a lot of blondes.
You see, like, you see a lot of like the copy and paste.
So it's easily accessible.

(01:12:49):
So they're able to find it
and they're able to attain it easily.
And then also if they see that's what their friends
are dating, they're gonna date the same as well.
I got you.
And so that was the issue.
It was like a circle.
Yes, and that was the issue I ran into.
And my therapist was like,
it's not that they don't wanna date you.
It's because it's not common.

(01:13:11):
And I was like, damn.
I hope you didn't go blonde after that.
I did not.
And funny enough, my mother's a natural blonde.
Thank God.
And I did not get that gene.
I showed you a picture of my mom before.
I'm like the exact opposite of my mother.
I look just like my dad.
But yeah, I always, I mean, I would tell my mom like,
yeah, I hate being a brunette

(01:13:31):
because no guy like wants to pick me.
And she's like, I hate being a blonde
because every guy thinks I'm stupid.
You what?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I'm dead.
Okay, so we're both in the trenches together in a sense.
I'm dead, right?
Yeah.
So like, so if you were blonde, you think he would've stayed?
Blonde?
I would've stayed blonde?
Is that the reason why he left?
Because you weren't blonde.

(01:13:51):
Because you weren't blonde?
No, I just, which boyfriend are you talking about?
The college one.
Alabama.
The one, the first one?
Yeah.
He graduated and I was still going to college.
Oh yeah, he gone.
Yeah, I'm gonna go.
And he was moving.
He graduated from everything, the relationship, everything.
What?
You what?
You what?
He gone, what?

(01:14:11):
I was like, yeah, sorry, I gotta go.
Man, no.
I gotta go real, real life.
No, I'm gonna real life it down, bro.
What?
I mean, I just, I felt, I started feeling it
because you feel when someone pulls away.
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And I was like, oh, it's gonna happen.
You're just waiting for when?
You're just waiting.
Yeah, and the worst thing was
that he broke up with me over the phone.
Oh, bitch.

(01:14:32):
Yeah, it was horrible.
Damn.
And that week before, or no, a couple days before he
did that, he saw me in person.
And I was like, you could have.
And just acted like normal as fuck, yeah.
I could sense it.
Like, I could sense it.
That's crazy.
So he probably wanted to,
but he was too chicken shit to do it.
Not to do it in person.
I would have honestly much rather had him break up with me

(01:14:53):
in person than over the phone.
I think he was afraid that I was gonna like.
Pop off on me?
Like, pop off.
But like, no, I popped off on him
for him breaking up with me over the phone.
Over the phone, right.
Because I literally called him a coward.
I was like, you.
Yeah, that's spooky shit.
What the heck?
I just said it to your face.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's spooky shit.
I mean.
It would have made me, yeah.
It would have made things 100%.

(01:15:15):
Or I should say 100% better,
but it would have lessened the blow a bit more.
But I remember, I think it was maybe three or four,
I think it was like four months after we broke up.
And I got on a hinge
and I found his dating profile.
That man was ready.
I told you, yeah, he graduated.

(01:15:36):
Graduate, let's fucking go.
Man, at that, graduated.
He had Kanye West playing on the background.
What the fuck?
But yeah, so I actually.
Yeah, Drake, congratulations.
They're not like us.
Consider me the reason y'all should pay attention.
It was fun.
It was funny because I was actually on the phone

(01:15:58):
with my best friend.
And I was scrolling, I was on the phone with her
and I was like, she's like, what?
I was like, my ex boyfriend.
And I was like, you know what?
I'm gonna report him on it.
Yeah, oh, that's petty as fuck.
What?
That's petty as fuck.

(01:16:18):
Hold on, what is it?
I tried to report it as being a fake.
That's petty as fuck.
No, no.
It was still fresh.
But that was before, that was before
because who she was five years ago is not who she is.
I feel it, I feel it.
Exactly, now I would have been like.
We go up.
Exactly.
And I think I reported him for being a fake account.

(01:16:39):
Yeah, it was a bot.
It was something, a bot.
So the Indian bot.
Yeah, or he was like bringing horns for hours.
Oh my God.
No, you did not.
Start scrolling over real.
All right, we gonna read the chat.
All right, y'all, crazy work.
Hey.
Crazy work.
I was 21.
Crazy work.

(01:16:59):
They said, they said on a scale of one red flag
to 10 red flags, what are we raking her?
Nothing else being red.
No.
Smoke gives you three red flags.
Blasphemous says one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
What were we raking her?

(01:17:20):
Seven red flags.
Oh my God.
Odin passed the 10.
You know, Odin, you just, you hate dog.
Yeah, he just hates.
You were hating territory.
Nah, he took advice from us.
He's still toxic.
Oh, he's still toxic and King has his crowd up.
Oh my God.
I'm dead, I feel it.
Nah, he was gone.
He had a flight.
He did.
Yeah, he was ready.
He was ready to go.

(01:17:40):
Bro booked it.
And in the end of things, I was like, oh thank God.
Oh my God.
Oh, he booked it.
Oh God.
Right, cause that could have been later on.
If we had kids, I'd be carrying the jeans on my back.
Spooky as fuck.
Damn, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Spooky as fuck.
Damn.
That's crazy work.
Same thing for my second ex-wife.
The gooner?
The what?
The gooner.

(01:18:01):
The gooner?
We got a couple gooners in chat.
Yeah.
A couple gooners in chat.
I think that also plays into.
It does.
If you put a fantasy in your head,
especially if you watch too much corn.
Two more, right.
When you get goon in too much.
Yeah, if you watch too much corn.
It fucks up your head space.
It really does.
I remember my second ex-boyfriend
like judged me for like dating around

(01:18:23):
and like having more of certain experiences
than he did in college in my past.
But when he told me he had an eight year corn addiction,
I didn't judge him.
Yeah, spooky.
I'm like, oh, you want to judge me for something that I.
I don't know, I think that's.
I've healed from.
I think y'all should have shook hands and formed a pact.
What the fuck?

(01:18:44):
Like I told him, I was like, I'm healing myself.
I'm actively like working on myself.
Yeah.
And I remember I asked him, I was like,
so that's not an issue anymore, right?
And he's like, no.
Eight years, I don't know.
But my thing was like, I didn't judge you for that.
It's not an issue when you're not there.
When you're not there, right.
That's what it is.
He probably went home and actually.
No, no, no, no, hey.
It's facts.

(01:19:04):
It's not an issue.
I know, but here's the thing though.
I know, you know, let me not,
cause I don't want to put the boys out,
but like it is a common fact that even men
in relationships still partake in.
I have a question.
I have a question for you guys.
And maybe if the chat wants to chime in, they can.
If you are dating or married

(01:19:26):
and your spouse watches corn,
do you count that as cheating?
I feel like men and women watch corn differently.
I just, I really, I feel with men, it's primal.
It's literally just like, I just need a nut.
I need an instant stimulate.

(01:19:47):
I need caffeine.
But why can't you get that from your boyfriend,
your girlfriend or your wife?
Cause she's not available all the time.
And she's a human and she has boundaries
and I need to respect them.
And she's not at my beck and call
to serve my instant monkey man needs.
Have you ever thought about, I don't know.
Like, bro.

(01:20:07):
Have you ever thought about, I don't know,
self control?
Self control.
But that's what we do every day.
We do that.
That's why when we talk about higher brain
and lower brain, that's monkey.
But you know what?
Do you think it's cheating?
I don't think so.
Like I said, the way I've seen women consume erotic content,

(01:20:32):
it's different.
Well, because look at it this way.
It's different.
Hold on, hold on.
Yes, men consume corn as their form of nut,
but it's like women reading a sex book.
It's a mental thing.
So you can get yourself wet by just reading a sex book.
So is that considered cheating?
Well, here's the thing.
The only reason why we, okay, for me,

(01:20:54):
would we consider cheating?
Here's the thing.
The possibilities of you being with that actor are miniscule.
Yes.
But they're higher than me being with that actress.
Yes.
You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But that doesn't, I haven't given you my answer yet.

(01:21:16):
But to me, it's not cheating.
It's not.
It's not cheating.
Because for me, I feel like it's,
for me, it's just not cheating.
I think you're looking.
I think if it gets to a point where it's prohibiting,
it's inhibiting you from doing a daily task.
You're asking us from the perspective of
if a guy sees a woman doing it,

(01:21:37):
would it mean it's different?
Because I'm not looking at her,
I'm consuming it as a product.
Exactly.
You see how fucked up that is?
Right.
I mean, to me, I think it's cheating because
you're seeking out somebody else to satisfy you.
And then that makes me think.
And that's why it's different for you and you and I.
Right.
It's like I'm not worthy of you.

(01:21:59):
And I'm like, I think like, obviously like,
sex isn't like what every, it should be everything.
The relationship build on.
Obviously you should have an intimate component
and you should be sexually attracted to,
and physically attracted to your spouse, partner, whatever.
But I mean, I just, I view it as
I'm not worthy enough of you.

(01:22:20):
Cause perfect example, let's say we're dating.
If you watch it, I won't look at it as cheating.
But for you, if you think, if I'm watching it,
you'll consider it as cheating.
It's just men and women, the dynamics are different.
Like, and my thing is it's like, okay,
it's like which came first, chicken or the egg, right?
Sex would be stale as fuck if there was no erotic content,
if there was no pornography,

(01:22:41):
if there was no exploration of,
you see what I'm saying?
If someone had to watch someone do something
for sex to even.
You see the old paintings and images and stuff like that.
So it's like the consumption of pornography isn't,
shouldn't be viewed as this,
I'm not gonna say it's like, you know,
oh man, it's a saint.
Yeah.

(01:23:01):
Right.
There's just nothing wrong with it.
Cause I, but if you look at it as a product,
too much of it, you know what I'm saying?
Will fuck you up.
Will fuck you up because.
Well there's studies coming out.
It's like drugs.
Right, right.
It's literally like this,
it's drugs, right.
It's the stem,
I forgot what part of the brain that it stimulates,
but they did studies and they compared it
between people who have a high from like heroin or cocaine

(01:23:23):
and it literally stimulates the same things in the brain.
And that's why a lot of young men that consume corn,
when they do actually find a woman that they can be with,
they have difficulty getting it up
because they're so comfortable with that.
They're impotent.
Yeah, because the fantasy.
Yeah.
The fantasies.
But that's where it like, it becomes an issue.

(01:23:45):
Yes.
Yeah, for sure.
Where you start actually projecting your fantasies.
And if it doesn't go the way you want it to go.
For me, for me, I would not look at it.
Rock hard.
I would not look at it as what type of corn they,
I mean, if they watch corn, it's what type of corn.
Yes.
They watch.

(01:24:05):
It's that wild shit.
Yeah.
You're out of luck.
What type of corn.
You better go get a strip.
Do they watch corn?
It's what type of corn.
How extreme?
Well, they're.
Well, it doesn't have to necessarily be extreme
because some people could be seeking corn
for emotional fucking reasons and shit.
I got you.
Well, there's, I forgot where it was.

(01:24:25):
There's a organization that like fights against.
Sex abuse and porn?
Yes, and pornography.
And they, you know, state a lot of studies,
but they also interview both men and women.
And they interviewed a woman who actually
divorced her husband because he was consuming pornography
and he wanted to try it, what he was watching.

(01:24:48):
And it was like full blown.
It was abusive.
It was abusive.
And she was like, no, this is not right.
Just because I'm married to you,
doesn't make this acceptable.
And that's like another thing where I'm like.
Right.
There's boundaries in that too.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
Like if that's something that.
I feel like that should be like a mutual thing.
Right, exactly.

(01:25:09):
Right.
Like, hey, do you want to try this?
Hey, like da da da.
You know, type shit.
Add some flavor to it.
Add some flavor.
Like vanilla type shit.
Like I want some rocky road some days, you know.
I was about to say something.
Neapolitan another day.
Want some rainbow sprinkles.
I'm gonna go to the restroom.
Damn, you didn't pee before you went?

(01:25:30):
Unacceptable.
I gotta go.
I gotta go.
Unacceptable.
Tis tis.
Yeah, but no, no, no.
Yeah, like I said, some people just have,
some people just have that mindset
where they're so used to what they're consuming
that they can't get over.
So Smoke said.
Oh, you're gonna read this one?
Yeah, she said it is cheating if we.
No, Smoke is a guy.

(01:25:52):
Smoke, okay, well, he basically said,
well, what would you do?
What do you expect a man to do if the woman isn't trying?
Yeah.
Well, they talk.
I mean.
I mean, what do you mean by isn't trying?
Yeah, yeah, Smoke, can you clarify on that question?

(01:26:15):
What is it?
Where you at?
What are you reading?
It's like with the corn.
We watch corn to bust in that moment.
Odin says, Smoke says agreed.
Smoke also says, well, hold up, I have a question.
She said is cheating if we watch corn,
but what do you, okay, I see what you're saying.

(01:26:35):
I mean, I think if.
If you don't get satisfied 60% of the time
because their woman isn't trying to smash.
Well, I think you need to communicate that
because those are your needs.
Yeah, and I think that's what it is, too.
I don't think people realize
how big of a component communication is.
I honestly think the expectation
in a lot of relationships is

(01:26:56):
because we're in a relationship,
you should be expected to do that.
Yes, you just know.
Yeah, it's not,
it's not a oh, can we,
because in a relationship you still have your boundaries,
but nobody thinks about stuff like that.
So it's like if we communicate what is off limits
or what is on limits,
then we can have a healthy discussion
or a healthy sexual relationship,

(01:27:18):
but a lot of people don't do that.
So I think that's what it is.
A lot of people just,
a lot of people go into relationships
just assume this is what you're expected to do
or this is what we should be doing because we're in it,
but it's like, it doesn't always work like that.
And I'd also like to go back on the point
of people being so easily accessible due to dating apps
still has sex because it's become easily accessible.

(01:27:40):
Oh yeah, for sure.
If you get on an app and you can find somebody
and boom, it's there.
Yeah, and I,
something that my brother and I watched the other day
where it says the value of sex has become depreciated.
It means nothing.
Because it's so easily accessible.

(01:28:01):
Accessible means nothing.
Through pornography and dating apps.
Yes, so it's like nobody puts in effort
to want to try to,
because remember, you said this yesterday,
you said remember when the girl would throw down
the handkerchief and the guy would come
and then go take her out on a date
and then do this and then work for months
just to get married to her, all that stuff like that.

(01:28:22):
Wouldn't it be crazy if we actually like,
I want us to do a study where we do,
no dating, we get rid of,
it's like okay, we get rid of TikTok
but we can't get rid of.
Jerkmate and fucking ChatterBate.
You and your Jerkmate bro.
No, that blew my fucking mind, bro.
That was a rabbit hole I did not know existed, bro.

(01:28:45):
No, that was crazy work.
Okay, yeah, okay, so we are so in such a.
There's a website called Jerkmate.
It was trending during the Super Bowl, right?
Yes.
They literally paid for that.
So it's literally like Omegle.
But like, you, yes.
No.
But you just watch each other.
Even on Omegle.
Jerking off life.
Right, but that was like non-consensual.
This, they actually made, they're like,

(01:29:06):
why don't we take that idea and sell it?
See, and this is where we live in a.
It's commodified.
Commodified and we live in a hyper-sexualized society.
And that is why we don't value.
Goblins, right.
Who directed it?
Marriage, divorce rates 63%, baby.
Oh man.
But no, the entire website is already like two people live.

(01:29:29):
Just.
Oh, this is so weird.
Yeah, but it was on the Super Bowl.
They paid for that ad just to put it on.
They didn't care.
But no, Smoke had a question and.
Ooh, okay.
He basically responded to it in the sense of,
he was saying, well, what would they do
if they don't want to have sex 60% of the time?

(01:29:49):
And then she's like, well, you gotta communicate that
within the boundaries of the relationship.
Yeah.
I basically was telling her,
you can't automatically assume that they're gonna do it
because you guys are in a relationship.
It's something that you guys have to discuss first.
Right.
Talk.
Like no one is a mind reader.
Instead of being on a couch like this.
Right.
Y'all need to be yapping about shit.

(01:30:10):
Talk about nothing, bro.
That's why I like.
That's literally how you gotta be.
When someone suggests like a movie for a date,
I'm like, why would you suggest a movie for a date?
We can't talk.
We can't talk.
We can't talk.
I'm trying to fucking yap.
I need you to see my uvula.
I need you to describe my uvula in detail.
It jiggles.
You what?

(01:30:33):
Oh man.
No, that's real.
When I went on my, like last night was the first date
I went on that was very different.
All the dates I've gone on in the past were like
appetizers or drinks or just drinks.
Happy hour.
Happy hour, yes.
But like it was nice because we went to like
a mini golf place and we talked while we did mini golf.

(01:30:55):
So it wasn't like we were just standing,
sitting awkwardly and like what if like
the conversation died down?
I mean, what are we gonna do?
We were able to golf.
There were some moments of pausing.
And then when I thought of a question to ask him,
I asked him and then you know, it was good.
Like, yeah.
Exactly, communication.
And on top of that, no offense to your generation,
but a lot of the men do not know how to talk.

(01:31:16):
They don't.
They don't.
This is easy.
This is all they need.
Memes?
Or short texts?
Yup.
Fuck it.
Eggplant emoji.
Eggplant emoji.
Are we down?
Where you add G-O, drop the pin.
Yeah.
Pokemon Go.
Pokemon Go.
You what?
But I'm telling you, nobody can talk.
Yo, we love it.
Oh man, this crazy work, right?
And, but it's rewarded.

(01:31:38):
Yeah.
It's rewarded.
It is.
That's why we say it depreciates because it's so easy.
Right, let's not lie.
Accessible.
Let's not lie.
It's rewarded.
Everyone got like seven husbands, seven wives.
A rotation.
Sister Ros.
A roster.
A roster.
There you go, there you go.
Crazy work.
See, I don't like, my friends are like,
you need to get a roster, you need to build a roster.

(01:31:59):
I was like, I can't even.
Holy fuck.
Spooky.
Don't listen to your friends.
No, I can't even keep up with myself.
Like what makes you think I can keep up with a-
Seven.
Like more than one other person, what the fuck?
No.
I'm just like, okay, one person at a time.
One person at a time.
Turn the mic towards you.
Oh.
One person at a time.
There you go, there you go, that's better.
Like one person at a time.

(01:32:20):
And then if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
Like that's fine.
That's another thing.
Like it gets a lot-
So you're a one person at a time person?
This generation can't be saved yet.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I'm always hearing,
oh yeah, you gotta date multiple people
or five people to know what you want.
You gotta have a back burner.
You gotta have your options open.

(01:32:42):
And then they just combine to make Captain Planet.
Oh yeah, it's my magical man.
What the fuck?
By the power of-
Oh, great, you were about to say he, man.
The powers combined, bro.
What the fuck?
No, that's crazy.
Yeah, because one might be,
one might have, one might be able to talk well.
One might give you good friends.

(01:33:04):
One drives this car, one makes this money.
The sex is good with this one.
This one's balding, this one's not.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's like the perfect man is separated
and he's right, Captain Planet.
You gotta put them together.
That's crazy, dog.
You gotta put this together to make Captain Planet.
I can't, bro.
I mean, I've gotten to the point where like,
oh, if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
That's okay, it wasn't meant to be.

(01:33:25):
And I'm like, I think that's why people get so hung up.
They're like, it didn't work out.
What did I do wrong?
Yeah.
I mean, sometimes you're not the problem.
It's just them.
That was their choice.
They didn't want you and that's okay.
There's nothing wrong with you.
And it kind of is another thing to go back on
to the whole saying there's nothing wrong with you

(01:33:47):
is like, because I didn't have my first boyfriend
until I was 20.
And I thought for the longest time
there was something wrong with me.
Gotcha.
Because I didn't have a boyfriend.
Everybody else had one except me.
And my mom was like, there's nothing wrong with you
if you don't have a boyfriend
because your worth does not lie in that.

(01:34:08):
Like your worth lies in other things.
That was before you knew who you were.
Exactly.
And she was like, yeah, like when I was in college,
I didn't have a boyfriend.
Like I, and I had my friends saying like,
oh, like pitting her like, oh, there's nothing wrong
with you if you don't have a boyfriend.
And my mom was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Like, I know there's nothing wrong with me.
Like, what are you saying?

(01:34:29):
You what?
I'm dead.
Like, what are you saying?
I'm dead.
Like, of course there's nothing wrong with me.
And there is nothing wrong with you
if you don't have a boyfriend.
Yeah.
That's real.
Like, you got like being with yourself.
Exactly.
And that's another thing.
You got like being with yourself.

(01:34:49):
My generation does not know how to be alone.
And like, I think there's this negative connotation
that if you're alone, you are lonely.
You are a loner.
No, learn how to be alone.
Because one way or another, eventually after you're married
and you get old, one of you is gonna die off first
and you need to learn how to be alone.
Yeah, because usually the person dies afterwards too.

(01:35:10):
Yeah.
All right.
But yeah, no, learn how to be alone.
Yeah, when you know how to be by yourself,
you bring a lot to somebody else.
Because you're complete with yourself.
So nothing they do will hurt you.
You will only be like-
Yeah, like when I was by myself in this house
for a year before he booped in,
I was talking to Bruce.
Everyone thought I was crazy.

(01:35:31):
Bruce knows all his secrets.
Bruce is like, fuck man.
What's in the backyard, Jeff?
This man never shut the fuck up.
I'm sitting around, I'm digging something.
What's in the backyard, Jeff?
That's why he been digging for the past three years now.
All right, go ahead, bro.
He's looking for something.
All right, so let's hop into the commentos.

(01:35:53):
Smoke says, all right, how far did you get
with the comments?
We got two.
That leads us to start to watch corn exclusively, yeah.
Okay, Snot says, talking isn't gonna change
the fundamental truth that if a man is sexually frustrated
or roused in the moment and his partner doesn't want it.
Smoke says, even with communication half the time,
it doesn't work.

(01:36:15):
Facts not, Odin, for real.
Maybe you're just not communicating
with the right person.
Yeah, some people just aren't.
There are people in life you will meet
who aren't there yet.
Yeah. Yeah.
Not everybody is in the same.
Right, right.
It's not because they're a bad person
or they did you wrong.
It's just some people just aren't there yet.
They don't have that self-reflection.

(01:36:37):
They don't have that, you know,
that ability to be outside themselves
and see how they move around the world
and how they affect other people.
Yeah, it takes a while.
The chain reactions of the decisions they make
and what they say.
Sometimes you'll never get there.
Sometimes you'll get there at 30.
Sometimes you'll get there at 28, but it's.
The frontal lobe.
Yeah. Right.

(01:36:58):
Do, do, do.
Odin said.
Well, you still have stupid people.
Odin says,
Odin says, women ain't trying to smash
once they're in a relationship.
It's a shame, Snot.
Because then you get into the gray territory
of coercion.
Facts.
Odin, I feel like that's at least 5% of the reason
why men stay single.

(01:37:18):
Snot.
I guess if it means talking in the sense
that you're keeping the relationship fresh,
it'll be more passionate.
But still there will be times when one person
just doesn't want it.
And I mean, that's not uncommon.
Like everybody in a relationship.
Right, that's not right.
I go back to the whole point of like,
there's gonna be fighting.
It's ebbs and flows.
Yeah, exactly.
Things like that ebbs and flows.

(01:37:39):
That's where you need to like, either like.
And I think that's the thing.
I think what a lot of like these Red Pill podcasts
always try to emulate is they'll go back to the 1950s,
which we're not in.
And they'll basically say, well,
back in the day, the woman used to give sex on command.
And it's like, well, it doesn't work like that anymore.
Does a house cost 5K?

(01:38:00):
No.
Okay.
Exactly.
But that's what I'm saying.
But that's-
Why reference any statistic for the 50s?
That's the issue.
The expectation.
And I get what's not the same, but at the same time,
yeah, you're always gonna have somebody that doesn't want it.
That's a crazy word.
Or it's always a spur of the moment
when you guys do do it.
So, yes, I said, do you, all right?

(01:38:20):
No, it's cause you said it
and there's a turd emoji in the fucking thing.
What?
I'm sorry.
That's my like fifth grade brain.
Yeah, go ahead.
It just made sense.
Sorry.
Remember, we're just big kids with no rules.
Yeah, that's facts.
Big kids with more rules.
Never lose that inner kid in you, bro.
Absolutely.
You're gonna be miserable as fuck.
Yeah, go ahead.
Odin, no, no, no, no.

(01:38:42):
No, no, no, no.
You said at least 5%.
Yes, you said.
Okay, yeah.
Odin said facts and then of course smoke is like-
Oh, smoke.
I'd like to point out that it's not that we don't know
how to talk.
It's because women like to screenshot the convo
and post it all over social media
and say we're being thirsty or we're red.
That's what it's like an anecdotal experience, sir.
Yes, that is anecdotal.
That's anecdotal.

(01:39:02):
You can't group an entire-
But it is a common thing though.
It's a subcategory of women who are not-
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Like that's not-
Right.
I'm sorry you experienced that smoke.
Smoke, I promise you, bro,
the more you learn, the more you grow,
the less you interact with those type of women.
Yeah.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like, and I don't wanna get into this whole
low vibration, high vibration.

(01:39:22):
Like really, like the more you know,
like the less bullshit you'll deal with.
Yeah.
Honestly, like you'll get a form of clairvoyance.
You'll see shit coming from a mile away.
Before, yeah.
You'll call bullshit a mile away.
You'll know if that girl's serious about you or not
from a mile away.
Just by what she says, the way she approaches you,
immediately. The way she moves.
The way she moves.

(01:39:43):
Yeah, all that.
How she responds, cause you'll know it.
You've seen it.
Like you said, like if you go on a date
and if they really do care,
they're not gonna be on their phone.
They're on their phone.
You know when someone cares, bro.
They don't care.
Yeah.
You'll know when someone cares.
Like last night, like during my date,
I was like, this guy isn't really talking.
What?
I was like, oh my gosh, like I'm, I don't know.
He's just very, I ended up learning that like,

(01:40:04):
he's very shy.
It takes time for him to open up and me, you know me.
I'm like, ah.
Yep, yep.
You're a people person.
I am a people person out the gate.
And we were talking about that,
about how like, I'm just very like, this is me.
This is what you get.
Like he's like, yeah, like don't change that.
Like that's a good thing to have.

(01:40:24):
But he was like, no, yeah, I enjoyed our date.
Like he was like, really?
And he's like, yeah, I like enjoy talking with you.
Like you're a cool person.
And yeah, so it's like.
That's dope.
That's good news.
Yeah.
And then like learning that like,
okay, like he's not that big of a talker.
He was more of a listener.
You want the yapper or you want the introvert?
Right, that's what I'm saying.

(01:40:45):
Like.
Well for me, if you, if they're an introvert,
as somebody who's such an extrovert,
You need someone to receive that.
Exactly.
Right, you need a well.
Yeah.
Because if you have two,
it's going to be like, ah, let me give them what I can.
Oh, two extroverts.
Right, let me get, you know what I'm saying.
I feel it.
Yeah, at the same time, they're not very responsive.
So I'm like.
Ah, right.
I was like, you don't know what the reaction is.

(01:41:06):
I got you.
You don't want it to feel like, oh, like are you.
Turn your mic again.
Oh, hi, sorry.
I feel that.
Remember, you can move it.
Cause like usually with more reserved people,
it's like, you have to learn their signals.
You have to learn like the small.
You can tilt it down too, if you want to.
Type shit.
There you go.
You give her.

(01:41:26):
ASI.
ASI.
Wow.
Yeah.
Hey, we got a special for you today, boy.
Hey, don't get them excited.
They gooning right now.
Yo, champ.
I know it's not.
I did not mean to do that.
Yo, champ.
They're going to be like red flags gone.
Green, green, green, green.

(01:41:48):
Oh, we're going to see.
Don't nose in the chat.
Yeah.
You know when you're white toenails.
I'll show you yours if you show me mine.
Oh, man.
Don't open the chat, bro.
What the fuck?
Oh, man.
Smoke says, I agree.
But most men from what I've seen stay single
because they don't want to get hurt again.

(01:42:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's what I saw.
I mean, I just knew women are the same way.
I think that's a human.
It's a human thing.
It's a human.
Oh, oh.
Get back here.
Well, man.
There we go.
There we go.
Oh, you got to tighten the top, Jeff.
What am I tightening?
Like the top of the.
Nope, I do not want him to see the meat.
Okay.

(01:42:31):
Yeah.
How do I tighten this?
No, no, the base, the base.
Oh, I see the base.
Yeah.
My gosh.
You're unscrewing it.
You're unscrewing it.
There you go.
Yeah, tighten it.
There you go.
Sensational.
The way my hands are going around this pole,
I need to see one.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
Look at that, man.
That's crazy.
I'm going to hit one subscription now.

(01:42:53):
Now.
All right, now you can tilt it down.
There you go.
All right, now you can tilt it down.
Thank you.
All right.
It kept turning every time she was trying to talk.
Smoke says, I'd like to point out,
it's not that we don't know how to talk.
It's because, oh no, we already heard that.
You also have to look at it from the perspective,
from our perspective as well.

(01:43:13):
Both sides are at fault.
This generation is just shit.
Like it's like, it comes back to the whole
like self-reflection thing.
Like you've got to recognize that.
Like, oh yeah, okay, I can be in the wrong.
That's true.
But like, what is, okay.
Now here's a good question.
Dun, dun, dun.
What is settling?
Oh, settling.

(01:43:36):
Hmm.
I would say, fuck.
When you don't get what you want.
No, all right.
Because if you know what you want.
Well, hold on.
What is settling?
Hold on.
What's your preferences?
And then we'll go ask.
My preferences?
Yeah, and then we'll go ask.
And then we'll go, what is settling?
Because if you don't get what you want,
do you consider that settling?

(01:43:57):
Right.
What is settling for you?
Right.
Yeah, so.
Because we.
I think what settling is, is if it's convenient.
Ah, because you don't want to be alone
or something like that?
Yeah, you don't want to be alone or, you know.
That person's just always available.
Always available.
Gotcha.
Or everybody else around you is getting married.
So I need to do it too.

(01:44:18):
Fuck, I don't like this guy, but I need kids.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, no, guys are like, I mean,
I think that was like my last ex boyfriend,
I think his issue was that he was like,
oh my gosh, I just turned 26.
Like I, oh my friend, like I'm a groomsman.
Like I need to get married as of yesterday.
That's true.
Yeah, and I'm like, dude, no.

(01:44:39):
Like. What?
When the time, I hate when people say,
oh, it'll happen when you least expect it.
I've switched that.
And I tell myself, when the time is right,
the time is right. Right.
Yeah.
Like it's like all about timing.
So when the time is right, the time is right.
Um, but that's kind of what I see as settling.

(01:44:59):
And then what was, you asked, what else did you ask?
Well, I was saying.
Yeah, what is the expectation?
And then from your expectation,
what would you consider settling?
Yeah.
Like expectations are, I mean,
everybody's expectations are different.
Preference.
Okay. So, Ooh, that's a good thing. Right.
And I think that's what's been skewed.

(01:45:20):
Right. Right.
So you're using a different rubric for every person you meet.
Is that what you're telling me?
No.
So it's the same rubric for every person you meet.
I don't really have a rubric.
Or at least do they.
Conditions.
Do they get close?
Preferences, Jess.
You're changing the name.
They can't.
Conditions.
Cause the only, only love you get that's unconditional
is from your dog, mom, and your kid.

(01:45:42):
That's it.
So we need to know what conditions we need to have
to receive love.
Cause there's no such thing as unconditional love
for a partner.
Right. There is no such thing.
Everybody deserves love.
And I mean, I think-
Right. We all deserve love, but it will never be.
That is just a hard fact of life.
Love will never be unconditional
unless it's from your mother, some, your child, your dog,
something that you see, you know what I'm saying?

(01:46:03):
Something that like you've had an attachment to.
Right.
Like you came from your mother.
Right.
You birthed your children.
Right.
Your dogs are, you know-
Dependent on you.
Dependent on you. Right.
Exactly.
So they say it's a man's best friend, you know?
But when dealing with other humans,
it's always, no matter what they say, I promise you.
No matter what they say.
But then you find out there's a condition.

(01:46:24):
It's conditioned.
It's conditional.
I promise you it's conditioned.
Cause there's no conditions when I pull in a mill,
a week or a month.
Well, you know, I mean, the end is inevitable.
So think about it. Right.
Breakups are inevitable. Right.
Divorce is inevitable. Right.
Calling off an engagement is inevitable.
Which sucks though, right?
But that sucks that that's a mindset though.
Divorce is inevitable.
So why bother go through the process?

(01:46:47):
Why get married so I can potentially lose money,
lose a whole bunch of time, mentally fuck myself.
Probably if I have kids, fuck with the kids.
If you're wondering that, then that's not the right person.
Ooh, I gotcha.
If you're wondering-
Like if you're thinking that far and then that's spooking you,

(01:47:09):
but that sucks though.
It does, but I mean that's-
Cause like, that fucking sucks.
But-
Cause you only part of that-
That's a lifetime risk.
And I think-
And that's where you have to be like emotionally
and mentally-
I just think we should just get-
Like pure and ready.
I think we should just get rid of marriage.
That's it.
Oh no, I will-

(01:47:29):
I think we should get rid of marriage.
I'm an all fast girl.
Like I believe in lifetime partnerships.
We could have a ceremony,
but the structure of marriage, the way it is today,
fuck that. No.
Because-
No, I don't think it's that.
Get rid of the-
I look like-
The financial caveats.
Take the government out.
The government out, yes.
The financial and the government caveats.

(01:47:50):
Take that out.
And I think that's why marriage has a negative connotation.
Yes.
Because of the financial things
and the whole perspective of the government and that stuff.
But then again, even religious people say
you don't have to get married by the government.
You can get married by your church.
But through the church, yeah.
Yeah, through the church.
And I'm Catholic, so I mean like we-
We recognize-
Marriage is a sacrament.

(01:48:10):
So we have a ceremony for it.
But for me, I want to be married because I mean-
Is it for the wedding?
No.
You feel me?
I just think marriage is a beautiful thing
because you've met somebody that you are gonna commit yourself to
for the rest of your life.
And we think the same thing too.
Fix the camera, Jo.
And-

(01:48:31):
Okay.
Are you talking about my camera?
Yeah.
My camera?
Why does it keep-
I'm not doing anything.
No, I know it's not you.
But I don't see a wedding, like a diamond-
Other way.
I don't see a diamond ring as, oh, how much-
The signification, right.
Yeah, I just see insurance on it.
How much did he pay for it?
If you'll pay 10K for a ring, you don't love me.

(01:48:53):
I see the significance of it.
You know what I mean?
Like-
There's meaning behind it.
There's meaning behind it.
But I'm somebody who like, I'm a very sentimental person
and I see like meaning behind a lot of things in life.
Yeah, for sure.
Like symbolism.
So that's my perspective.
You're humble.
Yes.
And well, I'm just not very humble of me to say I'm humble.

(01:49:15):
Oh man.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Oh man.
Wait a minute.
But like, I see, you know, having a ceremony
in the churches, like that's important to me
because that's my faith.
That's your witness to God.
Yes.
You're a gay man from the God.
I'm not doing it for like a photo op.
Like I knew people who did it because they wanted the photos.

(01:49:36):
And like for the ceremony, like the reception,
like I don't need it to be on like-
Backyard barbecue.
I don't need it to be like Como in Italy.
Like, and I don't need it to,
I don't need to get my dress
in a blindfold bridal from New York, you know.
That's very specific.
I grew up watching Say Yes to the Dress.

(01:49:57):
Oh, okay.
I got you.
I was about to say, whoa, like,
is that where you want your dress?
You know?
I mean, would it be cool?
Absolutely.
Have your future fiance watch this interview.
Like, would it be cool?
Absolutely.
But it's just, I think, you know,
weddings have become such a materialistic thing
and it's really like narcissism,
but also it's like, oh,
how good is this gonna look on social media?

(01:50:18):
Gotcha.
Like, why are you wondering how your wedding's gonna look
on social media when you should be wondering,
am I marrying the right person?
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
And then you wonder, oh shit,
why did like after three years of marriage,
why did we get divorced?
Why did we get divorced?
Why do I hate this person?
Like, I went to a friend's birthday party
and I was chatting up with one of these girls in this group

(01:50:39):
and one of the guys who left,
she turned to me and she was like,
yeah, he's newly divorced.
And I was like, how old is he?
She said 29.
And I was like, how long was he married for?
I think she said like two or three years.
I was like.
The average is two to three years.
Whoa.
And you know what the reason why,
the biggest reason for divorce,

(01:51:01):
reconcilable differences, unconsolable differences.
Unreconcilable.
Unreconcilable.
So it's just, I'm not happy I'm leaving.
You see people give up so easily.
It's so whack, bro.
That's where that goes back to my whole point.
It doesn't instant gratify,
like it's the fantasy in their brain.
But it goes back to my point of like,
you need to like know that marriage is gonna be work.

(01:51:23):
Marriage is not easy.
Yes, but where are we at?
We don't wanna work.
We live in an age where.
Exactly.
We want social media money, work from home money.
We want.
The downloads to go faster.
Downloads everything, instant, fast, fast, fast.
Free money, free money.
We want things to be solved fast.
Solved fast.
So it's like when you're having a rough patch

(01:51:44):
in your marriage, you're like.
This is the end.
I can do better.
Yeah.
They immediately, and guess what feeds into that, right?
The algorithm.
So now TikTok's showing you,
oh man, these are the signs that your marriage is ending.
These are five red flags your husband might be cheating.
Cheating, yeah.
This is blah, blah, blah.
Oh, this is.
This is the amazing life I've had after I got a divorce.

(01:52:06):
After I got a divorce.
This is what you can do after leaving.
That's crazy work.
It's crazy work.
It's crazy work.
It's just like, no.
It's crazy work.
I respect that though.
No.
I respect couples who go to.
I understand, you're right.
Marriage counseling.
That's why they say, especially if it's a religious marriage,

(01:52:30):
you need to go to a counseling first
before you actually get married.
Yeah.
Why don't we make a life altering decision?
Move to China.
Yeah.
You what?
That might save our marriage.
Oh man.
I start over in China.
You wild for that, bro.
What the.
Oh man.
Are you wild for that?

(01:52:51):
What a time.
I love it, I love it.
All right, let's get to some comments.
Yes, go ahead, sir.
Blasphemous.
No.
1950s was a good time.
It was a great time for me.
You know why?
I have this theory that.
Not for black people.
It was never a good time for me.
I don't know what you talking about.
He said for men, blasphemous, ain't you a ultra black, sir?

(01:53:13):
Okay, I have a theory.
They'll probably think you're Italian,
but other than that, we're fucked.
I'm not Italian.
We're in the same boat, blasphemous.
I have a theory that 1950s housewives were more happy
than modern day women.
Modern day feminists because think about it.
When you're a 1950s housewife,

(01:53:34):
while you're vacuuming, you're high on Valium
and you're drinking martinis.
How is that?
That's the life, girl.
Why do you think they were so happy?
No, that's crazy work, but I'm not gonna say nothing.
That's not my place.
Nope, go ahead, say it.
Go ahead, say it.
You can say it.
YouTube loves you, so go ahead, say it.
Wait, me, me?
Yeah.

(01:53:54):
Oh yeah.
No, that's, hey, that's real.
But I mean like, why do you think they were happy?
Because they were high on Valium,
drinking martinis, and vacuuming.
Valium, that's crazy.
I mean, they were happy chained to a stove.
That's crazy work.
Yeah.
Valium was the shit they had in like,
no, that was Freon they had in fridges, right?
Or some shit.
Yeah, I believe so.
Yeah, I mean.
That's crazy, high on Valium.

(01:54:16):
And then now, women are complaining about corporate America
and having to work.
I mean, don't.
But isn't that what?
But don't, okay, don't get me wrong.
I love that I was able to get a degree
because there's places in the world
where women are not allowed to drive,
they're not allowed to be educated,
they're not even allowed to speak.
So like, I'm very grateful
that I was able to get an education.

(01:54:36):
Right, you go opportunity.
I have the opportunity to go after a job
and open a bank account and things like that.
But do I want to be stuck in corporate America
for the rest of my life?
No.
Cuck, but that's the thing.
Wage cucking.
Wage cucking.
But that's the thing, that's the trade off though.

(01:54:57):
No.
That's the trade off.
I don't, like I tell people,
like if I was in an interview and they asked me like,
whoa, what's your dream job?
I can't tell them.
Stay at home life.
No, I want to be a mother.
Oh, okay.
That's my dream job.
Because they're gonna be like, that's not a real job.
Exactly.
That's what they'll literally say.
Or they're like, oh, you just wanted that maternity leave.

(01:55:17):
Oh, you're not gonna have because it's your job.
Oh, welfare type shit.
I feel like my dream job is to be a mom.
Like I think it's as a woman,
it's so uniquely rewarding that I was born with the gift
to be able to bear children and have children.
Like I think that's a beautiful thing.
And I mean, we do not teach our women in our society
to like, to recognize that and to be proud of that.

(01:55:43):
It's being seen as we're enslaved,
our bodies are gonna be ruined after having kids.
What do they call it?
Oh, birthing machines.
Yes.
Birthing machines, yeah.
They use these harsh fucking words.
It's very aggressive.
It's crazy, it's dehumanizing.
It's like to describe, I don't understand.

(01:56:05):
Why dehumanize yourself?
Why dehumanize nature?
Women who see me and wanna be a mom,
they're like, oh, like women like you
just end up in abusive marriages
because you're submissive.
That's spooky.
That's a dangerous word, Jeff.
You just wanna be told what to do.
That's spooky.
What a toxic mindset.
I'm like, you don't know me.

(01:56:26):
That's spooky.
Like you don't know me.
Like I'm sorry that you think marriage is toxic.
I'm sorry that you were led by a poor example.
Like that's not my doing.
That's just your surroundings.
And you have the choice on whether or not
you wanna change that narrative and clearly you're not.
No, she's right.
The mindset has completely changed.
Yeah, it's different.
It evolves.
Unfortunately, trying to go back toward,

(01:56:47):
you'll have the 10% that still want it,
but most of the young women today don't want it.
I'd just be chilling.
I'd be out here.
You can't say the female body isn't made to have kids
when literally, if science is like.
I deny science.
It's nature.
It's nature.
Thank you, it's nature.
Nature almost for the win.
Like if we weren't meant to have children,

(01:57:07):
we wouldn't, our bodies wouldn't be made to have children.
Yeah, for sure.
It's nature.
You can't go against it.
But like you said, you can't fight it.
Right, people think nature only extends to their,
no, mother fucking nature extends out to the beginning
of time, like everything since the beginning of time.
What did you say this morning?
What'd you say this morning?
You're like, even though Adam had everything that he wanted.
He was still lonely.

(01:57:27):
He was still lonely.
Cause God said, Oh, you have the animals.
Man's like, I ain't sleeping.
You're in paradise.
You got paradise.
You got all the animals, all the beautiful clean water,
all the foods, the fruits, da da da.
You can have anything you want.
And he wanted a partner.
He said, I'm lonely, bro.
Yeah.
So he said, I'm lonely.
And then with the rib.

(01:57:49):
The rib.
The thing with the rib.
See like it's, I just wish people were more sentimental.
Like I really think it's, and I,
It's mindfulness.
Exactly.
Oh, mindful, critical, cognitive thinking skills.
Now that's a, you asked me what my preferences are.
Someone who has, who can be mindful
and can self reflect and have critical thinking skills

(01:58:13):
and be cognitive and be a listener and be,
Be aware.
Be aware.
And be able to, you know,
be comfortable with the uncomfortable.
Someone who's financially sound,
not in the sense of like how much they make,
but more so they're responsible,

(01:58:36):
financially responsible and financially sound.
Because I tell them like myself, like when you,
like it goes back to what I said about like,
oh, people who aren't financially stable
shouldn't have children.
Yes.
That's my thing.
Like I want to be able.
No, I just think that's a fact of life.
Like why?
Yeah.
No, like you gotta like,
when you're committing.
Unfortunately, that's not what's happening.

(01:58:57):
To that change in life.
Like you need to have other aspects of your life
to be stable as well.
Stability, like that's a big thing.
Like having, like they need to have stability in their life
and they need to have like routine and structure.
So would you, would you,
would you take that even if it didn't come in the form

(01:59:18):
of what you would prefer physically?
What I prefer physically?
Yes, because let's say all that came in the package,
but it came in in the guy that wasn't
what you were looking for.
Would you still take it?
I mean, I've never had like a specific type.
Like I was never like, I'm only dating blonde guys

(01:59:38):
or I'm only dating, you know, guys with, you know,
facial hair or something like that.
I was always somebody who was like,
if I'm somewhat physically attracted to you,
I don't have to be like a hundred percent physically
attracted to you, because I think that builds over time.
But if I'm having a great conversation with you
and I'm connecting with you.
Stop smiling, Jeff.

(02:00:00):
Sorry to comment.
That I'm gonna have.
No, ignore it.
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Then I'm going to pursue like,
if it's mutual, like I'll pursue it.
I mean, I've never really had like a specific type.
Like every guy I've dated has looked different.
Gotcha.
Like my first boyfriend was some like,

(02:00:22):
I think like five, nine frat boy.
And then my second boyfriend was like five, seven or five,
eight, he was Dominican, kind of dorky, like different.
I got you.
So it's in the guy I'm talking to now.
And I went on the date with last night, completely like,
doesn't look like my last two boyfriends.

(02:00:44):
The reason why I asked this question is because again,
social media has skewed it a lot for young men.
And they go based off of videos that they watch.
And that's why my brother always says touch grass.
So if I can actually ask you somebody of that age,
in your mid 20s, and you're actually doing everything
that that's not happening in social media,

(02:01:05):
like your preferences.
Right, everything you said is the opposite
of what social media.
What people believe.
So that's why when, no offense to some of the chatters,
when they're putting in red flag for this,
or all women lie, or blah, blah.
I see no red flags.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Like I'm talking to chat.

(02:01:25):
I saw no red flags.
So that's why I like to ask an actual woman the question,
instead of just reading what social media is on.
And I mean, I think when it comes to like,
people think of what's like your physical preferences,
everybody thinks like hair color and eye color and all that.
For me, it's like, do you take care of yourself?

(02:01:46):
Like physically, do you take care of yourself?
You could tell where someone is here.
Because like, right.
Mentally, mentally, and spiritually,
I could look at you and you look nice and all that shit.
But it's like, bro, if I'm talking to a wall or a brick.
I was.
That's torture.
Oh, I was like, you know how I invited you out to drinks
with my work friends?
My old man that self was sleeping, yeah.

(02:02:07):
Oh, so that wasn't a woman.
I went out to get drinks with.
That was a guy.
And I thought you guys would hit it off really well.
Because you think very similarly when it comes to like
dating and stuff like that.
All right, that's us.
That's pretty sus.
That's really sus.
You just going to set him up with a.
Yeah, because the way you sent that text message,
I'm like, that's why I come I sent you back.

(02:02:27):
I'm like, I'm not looking.
I just forgot your name.
I said, it's fun.
I know.
I know.
It's fun.
It's fun.
I'm so sorry.
I like women's.
I like women's.
I deny.
That was a guy.
Holy shit.
The way you sent that text message.
All right, smoke.
I think he's disappointed.

(02:02:47):
Holy shit.
He's so sad.
Oh, he thought you blew him off, Jeff.
He's all over me, that guy.
What?
My point is, so he made a point because I was like telling him about how like, oh, I
was never the girl that got like the really hot guy growing up.
I was just I was never that girl.

(02:03:09):
And he was like, well, what if you did get the hot guy and he had like a really shitty
personality?
Would you want to be with him?
I was like, honestly, no, because he has a shitty personality.
And he's like, well, would you go for somebody?
And he was using like numbers to rate this hypothetical person.
But he's like, would you go for a guy who's like a six point eight, but has an amazing
personality and you hit it off well with what off well with I'm like, yeah.

(02:03:33):
Okay.
That answers your question.
Yeah.
Like I said, I just I needed to ask because I said like, I was really hoping that you
were invited me to drinks and there was going to be a girl.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
When you when you said that, that's why I said that's why I responded with I'm not looking
to date anybody.
I'm trying to become successful because you said I just stack that you literally said

(02:03:54):
hit it off with so my man brain is like, I hit it off.
I like women's art smoke says I have a question.
What's her stance on gamers?
Yeah.
Oh, then that's actually a great question.
Oh, they feel he also says I'm also talking for personal experience.

(02:04:14):
I don't listen to social media bullshit smoke says I don't have to listen to social media.
I have my own experiences with what's actually going on.
Okay.
I understand that.
But that's still anecdotal.
And that doesn't represent every single woman in the entire world.
Like I've had bad experiences dating women, too, but I don't.

(02:04:35):
Yeah, he knows.
Spooky.
I've had bad experiences dating women, but I don't put that on every single woman because
everybody, every all of you guys are different.
You're just you're just shorting yourself.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So you can't use your anecdotal experience and then put that on every everybody just
change who you like you said when you change where you find a woman.

(02:04:56):
Yeah, exactly.
And I think that's what it is.
So I never.
Yeah.
So when I was on the dating apps in college and I wasn't like really, you know, getting
much movement on there, I was like, oh, my God, it's me.
I'm the problem.
When I went to Chicago to go visit my brother, I was definitely not the problem.

(02:05:19):
When I went to Spain for two weeks, I sure as shit was not the problem.
No.
Like, honestly, the best experience I've ever had when I was on the dating apps was during
my time when I was in Madrid.
And like, like, I mean, granted, like I said, I was there for two weeks.

(02:05:40):
So this is not like a really good gauge.
But what I noticed when I was over there and I was actively on the apps was that and I
wasn't on the apps like meet guys in person or anything like that.
I just want it was almost like a social experiment.
I wanted to see.
Are you the problem?
That but also how do they use them and how do they communicate with women?

(02:06:03):
You should did that.
That's a big great study just to see.
And honestly, they were like very genuine, like they were asking questions and obviously
like it shows that I'm from America.
What's wrong with American men?
Well, that's the thing.
There was one guy that I almost actually went out to drinks with, but it just didn't work
out.
Do you think they kind of look at it like, like, oh, it's an American.

(02:06:23):
Yeah, like she's exotic.
I do sense that a little bit, but like also they were very genuine about the conversation.
And when I was there, I mean, I was on a family trip because everything's novel to them, I
guess.
Yeah, I mean, because when I was there, I was on a family trip.
So I really didn't go to the clubs or anything like that.
But I've heard that when you go out, the culture is completely different.

(02:06:46):
Like guys don't go out to seek to find a woman to go home with.
And the girls don't do the same thing.
It's like, oh, we go out because we're out with friends.
We want to have a good time.
We want to drink.
We want to dance.
You just meet somebody.
Yeah, you just meet somebody.
Well, because they're more reserved.
They're more approach.
They approach you more, too.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
All right.

(02:07:06):
I'm going to ask that question again because they're really pushing it.
What's your stance on gamers?
Yay or nay?
Is that me?
Yes.
They really want to know.
It depends on what kind of gamer you are.
Like if you're somebody who has.
Are you looking at my wall?
No.
My thing is, so I grew up with brothers who played PlayStation and they played like Sly

(02:07:31):
Cooper and Kingdom of Hearts and the most recent like Feet.
Did you say feet?
FIFA.
Feet Finder.
Feet Finder.
No, FIFA.
Like soccer.
Like NCAA and all that stuff.
I got you.
Like if you're that type of gamer, like if you play soccer, you're a footballer.
You're a footballer.
Like if you're a gamer, like if you play like FIFA.
Like casual sports.

(02:07:52):
Yeah.
Casual games.
But if you're like Halo and COD and GTA.
Oh, he about to drop like eight billion red flags in chat right now.
I'm sorry.
Why do you, why those but not those?
Yeah, why?
Why?
I just, it's not, I'm a big sports person.
Okay.
So that's why.

(02:08:13):
So I also enjoy engaging in that.
Oh, okay.
So you're down to play.
So like watching sports games.
I got it.
No, no.
Like down to play.
Like, I'm open to playing it, but like also like, I like watching it too.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Um, and I will say I do like a super smash bros moment.
Okay.

(02:08:33):
Mario Kart.
Okay.
Classic.
So like, you know, just like the classics, but when it comes to like, you know, having
the headphones with the mic and the consoles.
Oh, no.
I'm sorry.
We're fucked.
I'm sorry.
Sorry, buddy.
Okay.

(02:08:54):
Feelings hurt.
Oh, no.
Let's go.
Let's go back and talk about, um, but your love, the preference.
They'll never, they'll never cheat though.
They'll never cheat.
They'll never cheat.
They can't.
How about this?

(02:09:15):
I would much rather have a guy who's willing to build Legos together.
Oh, because here's how I see it.
Here's what about guys who Star Wars, like Star Wars, Legos.
Sure.
Okay.
Well, here's the thing.
Like Legos, like, okay, if you were in a real relationship with somebody that you really

(02:09:36):
like and that was the hobby of their, you would also want to engage in that hobby.
And Legos are something that you sit down and you put together for like hours.
Oh, fuck yeah.
It's like a puzzle.
Exactly.
So when you have somebody together, do it with you, you're able to talk and you're able
to work together.
See, I think you should really like test your relationship building a Lego set together
instead of Ikea furniture.

(02:09:57):
Yeah.
Ikea furniture is boring.
Cause you're, you're going to do most of the work.
Cause you're really like, I mean, Ikea furniture is like screws, but like Legos, like you're
building something.
You gotta follow the blueprint.
There's little tiny, like intricate pieces.
Snoz says, all right, we're getting somewhere.
Cause he loves Legos.
He loves Legos.
He loves Star Wars.
So that's why.

(02:10:18):
Lego Star Wars, Minecraft.
He loves Lego.
Minecraft, oh my gosh.
He loves it.
All right.
We're getting, he deducted eight flags.
Oh man, smoke killed me.
I'm dead.
I love smoke, bro.
He's funny as hell.
Snot says, nah, gaming is fun with your partner.
Just find something you're both good at.
Co-op games.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.

(02:10:39):
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.
I'm a pro.

(02:11:02):
Oh, absolutely.
Snot says, is this turning into a dating show?
Honestly, that could be like a cool, like, that could be like something like you do,
like a segment.
Yeah, I feel like.
A little niche and specific.
We would have to bring on women.
You just keep bringing me on.

(02:11:22):
She's like, I'm a regular.
Yup.
I'm a regular every, every, every month on a Tuesday, right?
Oh, man.
Oh, see, smoke says it takes two is a great game.
I want to stream that with Jeff.
Yeah, so it takes.
Yeah, so it's really.
Yeah.
And it's funny because it's literally the parents are about to get a divorce.

(02:11:42):
So the daughter wishes that they could stay together.
So their spirit gets transferred into many dolls and they have to go through obstacle
courses.
Oh, wait, that's kind of cool.
Yeah.
So it's obstacle courses by working together, which is a co-op game in order for them to
get back to their normal bodies because they can see their bodies through their window,
but they're stuck in the back.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(02:12:03):
You know.
Yeah.
I like that.
I mean, if you think about it.
So at the end of the game, sociologists like field.
Smoke says, hold up.
I've been trying to find someone to build Legos with for years.
Oh, God.
By the way, my dog smoke is six, three.
Yeah, he's six, three, six, three.
He's a mixed, you know, six, three, Puerto Rican and Negro six, three, a whole six, three.

(02:12:28):
Oh, wait, you.
Oh, that's right.
You didn't tell the chat.
Oh, you were like, oh, everybody probably thinks you're Italian.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not Italian.
You're not Italian.
I'm half Cuban.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
Wait, ain't that where?
No, I was about to say something stupid.
Nope.
Don't do it.
No, what were you going to say?
Cancel.
Say it.

(02:12:49):
Say it.
Say it.
Say it.
Say it.
Say it.
Say it.
Say it.
I'm going to get right back in the little.
Your pressure is saying it.
Noggin.
Cancel.
I'll probably reveal that at the end.
Legos in this economy.
No, right.
Legos is like crazy.
If you really love it.
If you really love it.
That's a flex, low key.
Yeah, there's.

(02:13:10):
Oh my God.
You want to know what man's financially stable?
Type of legacy.
Yeah.
Hey, hey, Smoke.
Hey, Smoke.
Show the collection.
Show the Death Star, bro.
You're about to pull out that credit card.
Pull out the Death Star, bro.
Oh, I'm dead.
I love it all.
Oh, my God.
I'm dead.
I love it.
I love it.
Oh, it's not says if she keeps coming back for these segments, that makes the Jeff's

(02:13:32):
like, oh, what?
You guys are like pimps.
Oh, man, we're trying to get bro.
We just got this channel.
Oh, my God.
That's crazy.
It's not crazy.
She crazy, though.
It's not you funny.
She said throw up in my.
No, what was that?

(02:13:53):
What was that one thing that got super popular?
The balloon challenge.
You know, that made it mainstream now.
Now they actually have like broadcasted television with like the balloon balloon challenge.
Oh, my God.
OK, so when I went out to dinner with some coworkers last Friday, they had they had like
different fights on.
And I was like, oh, I like watching UFC.
I like watching boxing.
They literally have competitive pillow fighting.

(02:14:15):
I should you not, dude.
You got to look it up.
Look up competitive pillow fighting the Joker.
Oh, yeah.
Characters.
Yes.
Yes.
I loved it so much.
Make sure you put on the put down the ball.
It's hot in here.
Probably because you're wearing a lot of black.

(02:14:38):
It's literally competitive pillow fighting.
Oh, my.
See, there is.
Oh, yeah.
And I watched.
And I watched like super.
Well, just put that back.
I got you.
I watched.
I watched it.
I was like, oh, my God, I'm so invested.
I was taking pictures.
We don't put chat on.
And I thought to myself, I was like, oh, my God, wouldn't it be fun to like get a group
together and like get hammered before this?

(02:15:00):
Oh, I get it.
And then fucking go and start whamming each other.
Yeah.
Concussion.
See, baby.
No, I mean, like go and like be a spectator and get hammered and bet.
Oh, we're not sports bet on.
Oh, we're not going to pillow fight.
What?
Yeah, because we're going to hit really hard.

(02:15:23):
Well, the whole point of the pillow fighting is because it's an alternative that is safer
and less traumatic on the body.
I've seen people in up and neck braces when pillow fighting.
I mean, if you put rocks in the pillows.
I don't know if we can play some.

(02:15:43):
No, I'll play some.
I bet.
Pillow fighting, extreme pillow fighting.
Can they see?
Can you see?
Yeah, I can see.
All right.
This is just.
Oh, wait.
He's like, yeah.
Now, can you only use two hands when you swing?
I you can.
Yes.
Could I be hammer tossing that?

(02:16:04):
Oh, that's wild.
That's crazy.
That's crazy work.
Oh, shit.
They really got a whole technique in them.
That man moving like he's boxing.
Oh, we.
Oh, that's pretty.
No, that's no.

(02:16:24):
So like, is he is he like the face right now?
Like is either best pillow fighter?
Yeah.
Wow.
So Rose like on a terror.
And he's like turn base.
Oh, so it's the Joker versus Santiago, the Joker.
So it's Joker versus Joker.
Joker, which I honestly like.
This is a good matchup.
Yeah, see, I don't know how to critique, but I think the long haired jokers winning.

(02:16:49):
Oh, he's he's the good joker.
OK, he's the good joker.
OK, that's awesome.
He comes he comes to play.
Now, bro, bro works out.
Oh, my goodness.
OK, so you can one hand swing.
Yeah.
It's just you can't use like like I believe there's right.
Right.
There's rules like a hit box area.
Right.
Like you can't feel it cocking back.

(02:17:11):
You know, yeah, there's rules.
No, this is cool.
Now where's this on?
Like I don't PFC pillow fight.
Please.
This needs to be a thing.
I like I'm telling you, I want to get a group together, get a party bus, get hammered on
the party bus, go to one of these competitions and bet on it.

(02:17:33):
Well, this this was going to happen.
People going to be rolling up their pillows, making it really extra tight.
It's kind of like, you know, there's like XFL and there's like really not a lot of rules.
I guess I'm sure they're probably like an XF.
Is that XFL still running to?
Yeah.
That brought it back.
They did.
Right.
I like watching it.

(02:17:55):
It's fun.
XFL.
Is that where they like actually use like real fucking there's really no rules.
I mean, there's rules.
All right.
All right, Jeff.
No, no, no.
You got to read the rest of the comments.
Oh, read the comments.
Block game supremacy.
Smoke is putting locks in his pillowcase.

(02:18:15):
Absolutely.
Smoke.
Yeah, that's real shit.
It's not.
It's not.
Honestly, I joined your discord to see if you had a server open.
Blasphemous.
If she doesn't have a problem with Minecraft, show her smokes of the the venator.
Oh, yeah.
He actually built like a.
Yeah.
And the question is, what does she think of Minecraft?

(02:18:37):
Where is it?
If you love Minecraft, you're a keeper.
Oh, yeah.
If you love Minecraft, you're a keeper.
I like the Minecraft memes.
I don't mind it.
Send her Minecraft memes.
I think it's funny.
Yeah.
Does it remind me of the sixth grade?
Yes.
But I mean, that's different.
You said that that was just like, whoa, you got any final final questions?

(02:18:58):
Final thoughts, final thoughts, questions, concerns.
Oh, do you guys?
All right.
Thousand questions.
Man, what?
No, I do.
Well, the my final question to you is what would you like the dating landscape to be
if it was ideal for you or for any anybody in your generation?

(02:19:18):
Yeah, I wish people would like actually like approach cold approach.
I got you like approach and, you know, be OK to accept rejection and be honest and open
and transparent.
Don't play games.
Mindful.
Yeah, that's what I would practice.

(02:19:42):
Mindful.
Less narcissistic.
Practice mindfulness.
How do you take up space?
Well, like you said, the dating apps have ruined it for everybody.
The Becky that was the only person in a small town is now available to everybody around
the world.
So it's like, why you laughing?
She's flaming my boy, my boy.

(02:20:07):
That dog gets more and more rotund every episode.
Oh, Bruce, look, he's on the weight loss journey.
We feed them once he's getting a good belly rub after this and more snacks.
Yes.
Don't don't body shame the dog.
It's a little on the heavy side, but he's going to give the dog body dysmorphia.

(02:20:27):
Oh, my God.
Badger.
I'm going to go to therapy.
Oh, make sure you walk in front of a mirror like, oh, it's not says, do you only play
creative smoke?
The force is strong with this one.
I play both creative and survival.
There you go.

(02:20:48):
Look at that.
Smoke likes you.
You have got smoke seal of approval.
I guarantee.
So do you have any final questions for them?
Do I have any final questions about dating or just in general?
Oh, what is your five years old?

(02:21:11):
It's fucking lame.
I don't.
Yeah.
I hope I get some of these red flags.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Every time she come on, wisdom comes with age.
Wisdom comes with age.
Right.
That's true.
Never stop chasing wisdom.

(02:21:32):
Never stop chasing with all your problems will melt the more you know.
So, yes, sir.
Do do do.
It's not says I only say the fact I didn't say it was bad.
Y'all are the ones assuming it was an insult.
I said it with love because it's valid.
Are you saying that because I'm a woman?
I assume everything's wrong.
You want to share the love.

(02:21:58):
I love definitely not gasoline.
Listen, we're all going to Valentine's Day tomorrow with nobody.
So you're good.
Bean has a row with myself.
What you talking about?
No, no, no.
Like us.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I got a wage card.
Yeah.
Sorry, buddy.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Oh, no, I'm off tomorrow.

(02:22:18):
I'm going to go get my nails done for our video game triple G plays.
Oh, good for you.
Oh, yeah.
I'm off Saturday.
I'm so excited.
Me too.
I'm also going to get my nails done.
My hair done.
I'm going to still be here.
Yeah.
What time?
Like usually I notice like women on their like stories and shit.
I'll be waiting early as hell to get your nails done.
Or 10 a.m.

(02:22:39):
Is that when they normally open?
Yeah.
That's like the average time, right?
On the weekend.
Yeah.
I feel that.
Do you usually get a coffee before or after?
I usually get one before.
Right.
I will.
You can sit while you actually get your nails done.
Yeah.
Like Saturday is going to be my whole like Galentine's Day, Treat Myself Day.
That's what's up.
That's real.
That's real.
What's Smoke say?
Smoke says, I'm used to being alone, Jeff.
You got me, Smoke.

(02:22:59):
You're not alone.
I love you, buddy.
Send me your OnlyFans link, man.
You better bring down the price.
I'm going to be on the phone with you.

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