The Day Hulk Stopped Being Incredible

On today's episode we follow the rabbit down the hole and question the mental state of Disney characters. Lil Jeph airs his gripe with the slow destruction of Hulk and his destructive capabilities. Star Wars gets a second chance and Korra is still the worst avatar EVER.

Episode Transcript

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Thank you again for joining us at the tabletop. Let's jump right into
She's like, let's go she's like I'm ready let's do this
Is that what she really wrote in the bag of chips
She'll write that I'm still reading let's go. I am her I am her Jiminy Cricket

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So I'm letting you know what she's actually saying that what Jiminy Cricket's purpose. Oh, yeah
He was a the conscious up Pinocchio's conscious Pinocchio's conscious. Wait, so now was he real?
Yeah, he was real. Yeah, because just as real as Pinocchio think about it. Think about it
Think about you think that was some inception. She's criminy Jim Jim was literally a crooked talking to a wooden boy

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Gotta get that better internet snot snot got that fucking gigafiber. Yeah. Yeah
She got that God she got that one terabit. Yeah. Yeah, she get the notification before we even know I sent her foresight before it happens
You already in the chat the day before
Crazy words, man crazy crazy words. No, but seriously though wait

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Jiminy Cricket like in terms of what the story for what the story was was he a real cricket or was that Pinocchio's imagination?
His imagination because he literally said I'm your conscience
But he never listened to his conscience
Plus nobody else saw the cricket cricket. That's true. Yep
And he's a wooden boy. So the whole movie was one big acid trip. Yes, basically all the Disney movies are

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Of course, of course, but like especially Alice in Wonderland, bro
Alice in Wonderland was the worst you didn't know if she was psychotic or she was on an acid trip
You get what I'm saying? What do you call that? Um, cuz TMT
Yeah, cuz the real cuz they're in the real Alice in Wonderland. She literally was in the psychiatric ward
You know what I'm saying? They even created is that what they did?
Yeah, they even created a video game off of it saying I think that's lame when they try to like we get what it's based

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Off of but when you actually put it in like real life
You set it in real life and then base the movie off it. I think that's kind of lame you take it out of the
The fantasticalness the you know, I'm saying like but it just sucks when when you like now you ground it in
Okay, this is psychopathy
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, I get that but at the same time when I was a child watching Alice in Wonderland, I was always wondering was it real?

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That's the first thing that came there's no way you looked at this shit happened
What the only reason why the only reason why I asked is because well, you mean like like was she really experienced?
Yeah, because when she first fell into the the tree hole and went to Wonderland
She was doing she saw this crazy shit
But then when she when when she went back she was sleeping under the tree. So it's like was it real?

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I don't know. That's an existential like prime example, right?
Okay
Sleeping Beauty or Snow White that's but that's still based in their world. Yeah, but it's still real to what them
Yeah, but they didn't go anywhere you get what i'm saying
Sleeping Beauty just fell asleep because the whole pin needle thing. Yeah, but magic exists in that world though, of course

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But they didn't go into a different reality. She went into a whole different reality
There was her world and then the with Snow White. No, no, no, um, Alice Alice. Yeah, Alice in Wonderland went to a different reality
same thing with um
um
What's her name? Uh Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz
Right, but you're but the question you're asking right you're asking if it was real for Alice

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based off of
Off of what no I'll say for me. That's what I oh right
Like if she was actually drinking like yeah, she was under the tree the whole time and then she's like, oh, oh
Oh shit, I was sleeping the whole time. So she crazy. Did she drink anything before then? No
She was just following he just starts off with her going up. No, she was following the cat

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She followed the cat fell into the tree hole and then no the rabbit the rabbit
She saw a rabbit with a clock that was the same. I'm like when did the hallucination start? Don't know. That's what i'm saying
We don't know
So we know she did fall asleep under the tree and then she fake woke up
Against all the rabbits. So a dream with a dream
Inception black coffee

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A quick question for us and then we can continue. Uh, for sure for sure. Uh, black coffee says sleeping beauty got assayed
Yeah, absolutely. She had no uh, no consent in that. No, I said smoke not black coffee. Oh
Oh, he said brother coffee. I don't see smokes question. Uh, what y'all think of the the episode?
Oh, scroll up bro. No, i'm i'm it's not updating here. Yeah, it's right there. What is it smoke? Oh

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Okay, oh I was reading his recent. Oh, it's a brother coffee dab. Yeah
Oh, man, what y'all think of the episode? No, I like it. Yeah, I like it you and you and uh,
you and uh, um, what you wanna call it bean
Bean really flow off of each other. Uh, well, yeah because you guys have known each other for more than a decade
Um, all I would say is

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Um is be consistent right? That's it. So stick to it stick to it. Keep learning how you can do better. Yep
um
Explore like different things in a soundboard like we have you know saying yeah, have fun with it. Have fun with it
Yeah, yeah
Remember when you start, uh, sorry to interrupt but remember when you start having a conversation

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Don't think the camera's there just start talking because when after that you just forget you just forget it's not there
You get what i'm saying? Well, you know, they'd be streaming smoke be streaming. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, just just just to let them know
It's my concern, but that's real. But yeah, just keep going man. Yeah, keep going guys. Something I can say keep going
No, it's good. I like I like the I like the the the fact that the first episode you guys were diving into games

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And how it has changed from back then to today and how um, it it plays a certain agenda
In today's society and you just want to get back to the the story making the game. Yeah making the game
Making the story enjoyable good and all that stuff like that. So right. Um, no, but that was very interesting
Especially when you guys went into call of duty

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Um, yes, and I do agree with you guys call of duty modern warfare 2 was was the best. Yeah peak
Yes for me in that order. It's modern warfare 2 and then we're at war
Yeah, and we're not saying that because it came out first. Uh, it's just that
Just comparing the two after we played it. But no modern warfare 2 is is one of the best
I feel like modern warfare 2 for okay. First of all, my war for two campaign was fucking

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Pink but just the online like that is what built the culture for
Online fps. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Warfare 2 hands down. I'm gonna say it right here right now. It could have been
Battlefield it could have been you know, halo, but for me for what
We know it is now today the the precursor to that was modern warfare 2. Of course. Yeah, that's where we got everything

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You know the whole idea of skins
Prestiging, you know camos
You know i'm saying and of course, I know you guys are talking about micro transactions and how annoying they are too and it's like
What's the point of somebody grinding?
14 to 20 hours playing a game when somebody can't get a game?
Or is playing a game when somebody can just buy the package and then skip everything

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So it's like what's the point? So no, I get what you guys are saying
Yeah, because like back in the day, right you had a golden gun, right? Exactly or you had a special camo suit or something
Especially that would give you more we knew like, okay. This guy's been grinding. He's really good. He's gonna do some crazy
Oh, yeah, but then you can tell the trash people from the from the good people, especially when you went online

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Um where oh, yeah, I have the weaponry because I bought the package through micro transactions
But I can't aim correctly or or get these people or any of that stuff like that back in the day
It was mostly like what map packs? Yep. I'm saying you got maps
But it didn't affect the the skill level of the players, you know just challenged

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The brain on how you know, how am I gonna adjust to this map or it would bring back old school maps, you know
Or introducing new weapons, but it never influenced the skill level of the player
And agreed agreed. I know it's a good episode guys great conversation great conversation. I really love it

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Of course outlandish like you said
very like I said
You what?
Like I said, just just continue to be consistent
That's it
because the more you you guys can put yourself on into the algorithm and and find ways to get in there because again
Um just the beginning when my brother and I were starting this typing in your our name

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Our podcast name didn't even show up in the search. I guess advertisers
We'd be getting commercials. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So uh, or we'd get a tabletop games or something like that
But our name would even pop up now you type it in and it pops up
So it's just like you guys have to be consistent work hard
Keep grinding release of reels clips all that stuff like that and just be on continue moving forward with it

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But uh, don't stop because again, you're not gonna see the results that you want in the timely manner
But that's where you have you have to challenge yourself into saying okay
Just because I don't see the numbers doesn't mean I should stop just keep going
You give i'm saying because look where we're at now
Um with you guys, uh, thank you for always supporting us, but look where look where we're at and we're gonna continue grinding

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Thank you guys. Yeah
Yeah
so
And then we even like you said you even added more things you game now and now you're you started a
A podcast channel with the land ish podcast your best buddy. Yeah, check that out guys. Yes, sir
Just drop their first episode. Yeah for sure for sure. Definitely
We can drop a link in the description just so they can check it out for sure for sure
But um, yeah, yeah for sure. But um, what are we talking about? Um

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Allison wonderland, yeah
Yeah
so and that that's what I was basically saying because again the
Get the the the animated movie started out with her seeing a rabbit yelling i'm late with a watch jump into the hole
She falls in behind them and then the whole adventure starts
But like you said, we don't know when she fell asleep
And if that was really it you get what i'm saying, so that's that's that was the confusing part to me

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but I like how we jump from jimmy cricket to
Because I remember yeah, that's what i'm saying. Like he was he really was on some you know, I should do
I should do this. I should watch all the disney classic movies
And then write like uh get a get a pen and paper and then write down you're gonna find some conspiracy

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You're gonna find the location of disney's head wal-disney's head jeff. Oh, yeah
That's what it's gonna be it's hidden in the film the national treasure, you know the crazy thingings
I have all the classic films on blu-ray
I have all the classic films on blu-ray every single they're right down there
Oh, wow, you really actually did wow every single one of them and I've also bought the live actions

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Except for the new snow white one that's uh coming up. What was the first live action movie of disney?
Was it uh, well, no because they made 50 million different versions of cinderella first live action drop
Uh, oh
What was the first live well, that's the thing there's so many live actions of cinderella

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But then they're they're trying to do the the the by disney. Yeah by disney. Yeah, sure
They do a whole bunch of a whole bunch
Bunch of rehashes uh smoke says
Good, sir. It's me you're talking to we stay right now. That's fair. Yeah, that's why I'm worried. You know i'm saying hey i'm just telling
You know, I'm telling you what you already know, but for those who don't know

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Yeah, you know i'm saying yeah for those who are just listening
Yeah, exactly because like I said like I said, man
It's it's difficult sometimes to get get where you want to get like we're three years in
And we're still working hard, but we're not where we want to be you get what i'm saying. We've uh, we've achieved a lot
But I still think we can do more
So that's why we're working towards that you know i'm saying so just keep keep pushing keep grinding

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And don't give up because you see one or two or three or eight views you get what i'm saying especially because it's a new channel
So it's like you're blind in the algorithm. You literally got to
Get the cataract surgery done so you can start seeing again. My my thing is uh
It's always found a way to make it easier
Yeah, exactly and and of course, uh, we've we found ways to make it easy because it's just you and I so we do the production

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The timestamps we don't we don't have a producer
So everything that's done is done by us
You know what i'm saying? Oh besides the clips vic does that for us
But besides the clips, um everything else like we we kind of upload do all that by ourselves
So we get it. So when the time does come or we don't really have to do that anymore

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At least we understand how it works
So that's right
And this is free information. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It is especially if you especially if you want to um,
Especially if you want to do your own thing, of course it don't it don't
You know, no, no, no, no, no
Yeah earlier. Oh, no, actually not earlier yesterday

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Because like i've seen the topic come up a couple times like kind of scrolling through my algorithm and whatnot, but
I think we did talk about it too where we had a discussion in the car
And then we touched up on it a few days ago and then it came up again
and uh yesterday yesterday evening and it's like
which version of the hulk

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Could beat tano's
Yeah. Yeah, because the
The infinity war endgame one was no, they really cut my boys trash
They they washed my
They did my man if you read the
Yeah, if you read the comic books and all that stuff like that, man
He's taking full force of cosmic rays the infinity gauntlets. Oh, you don't understand. They had my you know

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Let me just he got turned to ash about this. How about this? I'll just show them bro
He got turned. I'll just show them and then they'll just be like, yeah, there's no way. Yeah, he got turned to ash and then
um
He got turned to ash and then regenerated back to defeat thanos, but apparently they cut him
They just they you just got to see the picture. Oh the the the transition of him. What did you type in?

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Do they have the
They should but I think you have to specifically type in that's why why does it have to be specific thanos fries?
Thanos cooks hawk cook hawk. Yeah, and those go hawk to the bone
Uh, man, no, that's crazy word hawk

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Uh, what is it hawk to the bone or something like that? Oh
Hulk to the bone to the bone
Hulk
Regenerate oh
Wow, I bet you I got it. You got it. Yeah
Did you find it? Okay. Let me see if I could actually like bring this on screen. Oh, you got me get like a bigger size

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Of this gov x.com bro, what a good thing we can look at that first. I know right
That should be scaring the crowd
Who do do do do all right cool
This wasn't thanos who did it but it's pretty close. Yeah
Who did it? It's pretty good vector. I believe

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vector
Yeah, um, so
This is professor hulk. This is the more intelligent hulk. I were well the one that was in um infinity wars
Yeah, yeah. Yeah professor hulk. Yeah
professor hulk, um
How do I go to the next image but pretty much yeah, he he vaporizes. Yeah

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Bro gets vaporized down to the bone
by
By vector and then of course and then he immediately regenerates
Like that like that like that
Like that's just one feet
And then you had thanos babying this guy that blows my mind
Yeah, like like you said besides him having a gauntlet you get rid of that

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He's just super strong and a strategic fighter
But because of hulk's infinite rage, which is his power, right? He has no strategic way of fighting. He just smashes
He's unorthodox. So when you have an ortho an unorthodox fighter facing an orthodox then again
You also got to incorporate the different mental states of hulk too true. Um
um and and another thing too is

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If you've ever noticed like street fighters, there's no rules to how they fight
You get what i'm saying? So it it's I think it's pretty it's pretty crazy and different but uh, go ahead. So
There was like three versions of the hulk he had the
03 hulk
Which was the hulk that I fell in love with that's that's the hulk when I think of like

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the strongest there is like i'm gonna
be like a
Unstoppable force. Yeah hulk. You know i'm saying like i'm not thinking about anything. It's my mission is to smash
transition
Yeah, my mission is to smash everything in my way like I think of 03 hulk
Gotcha. You see i'm saying like I get it. Oh eight hulk

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He did all the cool tricks you see in the comics and the video games and stuff like that
But well we got to compare um, we can we can put the like uh, the feats. Yes, this one's the best
um, but uh with the uh skill like uh, like creating the the car gauntlets or
the um

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The thunder clap all that stuff like that that all derived from ultimate destruction
All the video games. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So um, right these right so this the the 03 hulk. This is my favorite hulk
That's my favorite hulk because he did the
Like he did the cool little things that that people forgot about people forgot about and I think that's what it was too

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Like when because stanley was an executive producer
Um when that film came out and I think what stanley was trying to do was focus on all the things that he could do
Instead of focusing on the villain. So the villain so absorbent man was lame. Yeah, the villain was pretty ass
Yeah, so absorbent man was lame at the end, but I think he was just focusing on everything that he said the hulk can do

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Like in the sense of like when you read the first comic he can leap 35 miles
uh in a single bound
Yeah
Run 50 miles an hour like yeah, you didn't see him doing that. Yeah the angrier he gets the bigger the bigger he gets
Yeah, and that's one thing hulk 03 focused on
Yes, it was just like every single version after hulk 03. It's like bro

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The thing about hulk is the the more powerful the foe the angrier he gets the bigger he gets
The more radiation he releases the more powerful he becomes but they didn't focus on that
But they didn't focus on that like but the but the 03 they just focused on his mental state
And it was just like well like the 08 with edward norton the only thing and then now he's doing yoga

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yoga
You what?
Oh
Oh
My boy dirty look at what they did to my boy
He was a he was a beast of anger and now he's uh
Look at what they did you see they didn't show 20 what 20 20 hulk
That's a good way to his trash
2020 they made my boy do yoga his name's hulk and he's a he's fucking doing yoga bro

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That's crazy man
That's crazy, but what are your thoughts man?
No, I I agree with you
I've been uh, I've been giving the 03 one flag so much but I think that's because you were focused on the villain. Yes, exactly
So I was so focused on the villain
But on top of that um when I was a kid and I went to go see it um with uh ruby when I was a kid
It was really awesome because it was the first superhero movie I've ever seen ruby actually took us to go see um blade 3

(20:47):
Blade trinity but we he just bought that film we sat and it didn't finish watching I was like man this is cool
Why we got to leave and he's like because the hulk the hulk film is starting so we had to go
He actually bought the tickets to that just so he can waste time until it was time to go to the next one
So I I got why he did it like a double feature
Yeah, so but um, yeah, but that was kind of the first actual supervillain film that I've seen um

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I was 13 so it was awesome because I've never been to the movie theaters. No, that's what made hulk like my favorite
Hero ever. Yeah, it was just like wow. Nothing is stopping this guy. No, no, he's literally everything is a million miles an hour
Exactly. Exactly. I don't say it's always a million miles an hour. His heart rate just never stops. Um

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It's not so as side note Jeff to manager step down this week. What a shit show in your store
That's spooky. You don't have to say what is but in your store. Um, yeah. Yeah, go ahead
But yeah, man, like I don't know. That's what's just that's what just captivated me because growing up mom was a big fan of

(21:58):
She did the original and the thing is I didn't Lou Farad Farad Farino. Yeah, but the thing is I didn't know
You see I instinctually like the Hulk you just gravitated. I just yeah because in 1996 they came out with the animated show
Oh, oh

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By Fox Kids
So I originally that was the first cartoon show that I saw because remember X-Men didn't come out to
X-Men came out 92, but I wasn't really to yeah, and then and it ran through 97, right? It stopped that night
Yeah, it stopped at 96. So but the thing was that show was so focused on politics and race and all that stuff like that

(22:43):
Yeah, that that it bored me. So I didn't I think I never tried watching X-Men 92. So but the Hulk it was just like smash
Here smash there smash here smash there you get what I'm saying, right?
So I naturally gravitated towards it and I'm like man, this is a good show and on top of that on Disney Plus if you guys want to see it
It's a really really yeah, all the old-school classic and cartoons are on. Yeah, Disney Disney Plus

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So they put the old Incredible Hulk is on there, too
But no, it was it was that good. I didn't know she actually liked the Hulk
And then when I found out that she did remember that year we got her cake
We did was it a whole cake? Yeah, no way. I had specially made just for her because I yeah
I think it was for her 35th birthday or something like that. But yeah, it was um, it was a

(23:29):
Whole cake for for moms and that's when we started like deep diving into like yeah finding out his feats seen
The different variations. I mean there there was even a comic book where he was holding the entire planet from
Where he was holding the entire planet from not falling apart like all right, right? He was actually holding the yeah
Yeah, yeah with all the heroes on it, but he has different feats

(23:51):
So the war Hulk series the Herald of Galactus series him versus century
My goodness. Yeah, my goodness a bear. Yeah, like what what they did to what they did to my boy to mark Ruffalo's Hulk
I don't know man. I guess it was a cop-out
What's like no because remember like Vic was saying they're trying to please the audience is okay

(24:17):
What do you mean? Please the audio? Well, when she when she hooked the animated series can't that when she hooked the show came out
No, I'm talking about him versus Thanos. Oh, yeah, and then when you when the
And then there was some bullshit. Oh, he has PTSD
That's why he didn't want to and I and I hated that cuz it was from the from the jump

(24:38):
That's what they were focusing on. It was just like his mental state is what you know made him not want to made him not want to
I'm just like, okay. How are you always angry? But now you're just this like yeah, even gladiator Hulk, bro
Like crazy work. Why I thought we were kind of going back back. Yeah, because when he was doing Ragnarok
He did really good. Was it Ragnarok? Love and Thunder? No, Ragnarok. No, it was Love and Thunder. Love and Thunder was a trash one, Jeff

(25:06):
Wait, where he met? No, gladiator Hulk. No, that's Ragnarok.
It wasn't Love and Thunder was with the Guardians. Yes. Ah, so he had to lose the way after endgame
And he went through a depression. Wait, so after Ragnarok, he left with Korg

(25:31):
Wait, so he met Hulk? Cuz remember Hulk was on the Bramble Bridge about to fight the dog and then
Thor was like Hulk, no get back on the ship. He's like no, but I want to be the big dog and I'm like, bro
Really? Wait, but how did he end up in the Colosseum? Remember he got on the ship at the end of Age of Ultron

(25:54):
Because Tony Stark's ship for some reason found the black hole went through it and ended up in a different galaxy
Without explaining how it got there. It just ended up there. I got you. Yeah, there was a lot of holes in that
Okay, okay, okay. So he just stayed there became the gladiator champion all that stuff like that, but they didn't go
They didn't go the planet Hulk. Yeah, they're just kind of telling his story in all that stuff

(26:18):
Yeah, cuz they keep copying out, right? Yeah. Every time they find a good Hulk story or a Hulk timeline
To latch on to, they cop out when it gets good or when he's about to really
Yeah, exactly. And then in every film he gets weaker and weaker and weaker and weaker and it's like, bro, really?

(26:40):
So go ahead
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Just shoot me a text on our DM and let me know
Potato bald head. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir

(27:03):
Yes, sir. Yes, sir
Let me exit all that
Yeah, but no, essentially that
Yeah, they kind of cucked my boy because he was a
We're not gonna get a redemption
We're not because universal
I feel like that was the last chance like the MCU was the last chance

(27:24):
All the contracts ended so I don't even know what they're doing now
They're not coming back, there's not gonna be any new ideas, no standalones
We're pretty much in the last days of the MCU kind of
That's what I'm thinking man, I don't understand
I think DC is trying to make a comeback of course with all new people and characters

(27:45):
Is that Zack Snyder? No, it's James Gunn
James Gunn, you think? Yeah
Well, yeah, he's gonna cancel, create, put what he needs to put in specific areas, do all that stuff like that
But yeah, I think he's gonna try to have DC get a great comeback and not try to rush the entire project just so they can catch up
And I think Marvel has been in it

(28:07):
I think Marvel's gonna kind of copy, go the whole Golden Age around
Golden Age and then I think Marvel has just been in it too long and they're burning all their bridges
Oh, and then some good news, Kathleen Kennedy is stepping down next to you
For... From Star Wars
From Star Wars, we might get a proper comeback
Wow!

(28:28):
Vic, this is for you man
Hey Vic, this is for you bro
You're gonna have to wait till next year bro
The Empire May Rise Again
The Empire May Rise Again, those stories might become great
Oh man, we're not gonna cook every male character
We might get a better Sith than Vader, who knows
That's spooky, that's almost blasphemous

(28:50):
He's gonna say that's blasphemous
That's almost blasphemous
He's gonna say that's blasphemous, blasphemous
You tell him blasphemy, what a better Sith than Vader
I don't know
He said hell yeah
For the Republic
Yeah, he's happy, yeah man
Yeah, but it's legit, she literally went online and said this is my last year, this is my country

(29:12):
Cause she fucked up everything, and every time they tried to green light a new project
Especially with a... Alphabet lead, they would cancel it
Right, cause they would add plot holes to the original lore
They would keep... Yeah, and it didn't make any sense
It wouldn't make sense, yeah, it wouldn't make sense

(29:33):
How did the thing go?
Power of...
The power of one, the power of two?
The power of many
You what?
Shame
Bro, that was bad, that was bad
That was bad bro
That wasn't Ahsoka right?

(29:55):
No, Ahsoka season 2 is actually coming out next year
Yeah, so, and then Andor season 2 is coming out in April, so
Well you can't fuck up Ahsoka's story right?
No you can't, this is Ahsoka after she left the Jedi
Because Anakin didn't back her up, so
Bro, no one backed her up bro
Zero, nobody, even Yoda

(30:18):
And he's the worst cause he's been living for 500, 600 years
I can think you'd see the same type of, you know, the same thing over and over and over and over and over
Lived for 500 years I have, but the future I cannot see
But that's the thing though right, like when did he gain consciousness though?
Who, Yoda? Yeah
Well remember, if he's like, okay right, when is Grogu gonna start being wisdom-y and

(30:41):
Well cause get you niggas
Well it sucks because you gotta look at it this way, so
The first, the first, cause Grogu's 50
So the first 40 years of their life, they're in an egg
So that's trash
What the fuck are you doing?
Yeah, we still don't know what he is
You know, but the season two of, well not season two, I think the final season or the movie that they're gonna do of

(31:06):
Mandalorian is coming out next year
But no, it's like for the first 50 years he's like in an egg
So he doesn't know, and then after that he's awakened, but he's a child, but he's aware of things
But he can use the Force and all that stuff like that
But it's weird, you get what I'm saying?
But for Yoda it's like, 500 years I am, but the future I cannot
Yeah, what the fuck?

(31:28):
Wait, I thought that allowed you to kind of
Yeah, and then he already went through the training of how he can see his old master
Right
We watched that through the Clone Wars, but
He clearly sucks at it, bro
Come on man, like you couldn't predict the future?
Side tangent real quick, cause I know we talked about the
We talked about the Avatar
Go ahead

(31:49):
We had a conversation about Avatar
Oh we talked about that
Can we have an Avatar story where the Avatar actually turns evil?
I don't think they're gonna do that
No, we need an evil Avatar
That'd be crazy as fuck
Where it's like now the world versus the evil Avatar
Well there's been a meme that's been going on in the internet because they were saying how
Oh the new Avatar?
The new Avatar that's coming pretty soon and it's like
Thanks to Korra

(32:10):
Yeah, they said Korra's trash, so I don't know what happened
I never watched the show, I think it has like four seasons, but apparently Korra made like some stupid ass mistakes
And they basically said
Nah, Korra was just too insufferable for me
And then on top of that, the angle
It was just real full negligence
But then, it was funny because Aang was like

(32:31):
I left my son to train you, you don't listen to him, you open the portal to the deep
You don't listen to nobody!
You don't listen to nobody!
I'm strong and independent
Bro, you don't listen to nobody and then you murdered all the Avatars of previous times
So now the next Avatar, now when he's in like a fucking pickle
He goes into the Avatar state

(32:53):
To ask his ancestors, what do I do?
It's only gonna be you!
Exactly, standing there
Shrugging your shoulders
I murdered everyone else!
That's crazy!
That's crazy!
That's crazy, man
Yeah, yeah, so like I said, I don't know the story

(33:15):
Never got interested in the show because I'm the OG
I grew up watching Aang and then the story was so good
And then of course the live action show on Netflix is also good too
Season 2 and 3 are being made coming out this year I believe
But no, yeah, I never got into it
I tried watching it, it just didn't interest me
Like she made, and the worst part was Aang was only

(33:36):
It was obviously bad decisions
She never learned her lesson
That was the problem
She kept making mistakes from season 1 and season like
4
Right! It was like what are you doing?
We made all this character progression
You learned your lesson
And then like
Now you get a foreshadowing or a warning or something

(33:58):
From your ancestors and you still don't listen
And then you just, I don't know, abuse your friends
You manipulate people, their emotions, their feelings
You're indecisive
Like I said, I didn't watch the show
Spooky shit bro!
I didn't watch the show but I know that Rock Bender guy
Very toxic person
Just a goblin of a person

(34:19):
I do not like her as I've been talking
Goblin activity
Absolutely not
I'm sorry, maybe it's a huge departure
Maybe because her predecessor was literally a monk
You know what I'm saying?
Who just didn't like conflict
The sad part was he was only 10 years old
Yeah, he aged 100 years past
But mentally and physically he was only 10 years old

(34:43):
But he had more wisdom in him because he was trained by the monks
Than you did because you were impatient, you were angry
Impulsive
Impulsive, you did things that you weren't supposed to do
You went based off of feelings and stuff like that
And it's like every time you got upset you would make a stupid decision
And you would win but at what cost? You lost so much

(35:04):
It's like that's old Raven where it's like instead of letting it happen
You try to do everything to prevent it from happening
And then it happens
And it's like even worse
But I think that goes into what I wanted to talk about a little bit
Maybe she was the evil heaven
No, I'm just saying
What I would like to go into a little bit

(35:25):
We don't have to stay too long on this
But it's just like the transitions of shows
Because shows used to have substance, good stories and stuff like that
And now it's just like to make people feel better about whatever they're in
We're just going to create a show on that
We're going to throw out the story
And then we're just going to keep milking the pot
Even though the show's not good

(35:47):
So I think that's wild because when we grew up watching
Like you said Avatar, it was great
You see what I'm saying? It was a great show
It had substance
It had a beginning
It had a middle
It had an end
You knew where you were going with it
And then now it's like we're just pumping out content just to pump out content
We don't even care about the story
Because it's more like I said about representation

(36:08):
And I think that's where we're skewing
But like we always talk about the rubber band and how it will be elastic and it's pushing itself back
So hopefully moving forward, Kathleen Kennedy is stepping away from the Star Wars
Which it's been over a decade
She's destroyed the brand
And it's like can it be saved?
Of course it can be saved
You got Andor, season 2

(36:31):
That's a lot
Star Wars is deep
Star Wars is deep
The first time we met Andor was when they created the whole
How did we get the plans to the Death Star?
That's how he was introduced
That's what I'm saying
So they gave him a show
In my lifetime I didn't know Savage Opress was integral to like you know

(36:52):
Exactly
You see what I'm saying?
But that's what I'm saying
Like these are characters that like exist
It's a galaxy Jeff
It's infinite stories
Even with them
So I watched Skeleton Crew
Skeleton Crew in my opinion was good
A lot of people will say it's trash but it was good
Because they basically showed you how naive these children were compared to the entire galaxy

(37:14):
There's an entire rebellion and a war going on
And they're safe in their little bubble creating gold for the Republic
Not knowing how dangerous the world is
And the one kid that was one of the main characters of the story is the one that says
Oh I want to go on adventures, I want to be a Jedi, I want to be this, I want to be that
Not realizing how bad the world was out there
It's real space
Meeting pirates, meeting a guy that used to be part of the Jedi but decided to go bad

(37:39):
And it's like learning all these things, these secrets that he didn't understand
And then at the end all he said is I want to go home
I don't want to do this
That's crazy
Can you imagine?
Yeah, because they're so innocent they don't realize how bad the galaxy is
And then when they get a taste of it they're like damn all I want to do is go home
And then he's talking about all I want is adventure

(38:00):
Not realizing the danger that everybody was putting themselves in
And then towards the end he ended up saying I want to go home, see my dad
And then it got to the point where even the parents are like
Fuck the robots, we're trying to save our kids
You're not trying to do anything to help us out
So we're going to go ahead and do this ourselves
So you get what I'm saying?
So I think there's infinite stories of Star Wars
It's just it needs substance regardless of how small

(38:24):
Because like you said one little pebble can affect a whole ocean
Right
You get what I'm saying?
Something that's happening in this side of the galaxy can probably lead to the reason why
They're doing this on the other side of the galaxy
And I think it works really well but it's like you got to give it some
Why do you do things like that when you punch holes and something like that?
Yeah and it's like and I think that's where they messed it up with the one

(38:48):
I forgot the name of the Star Wars show, the power of one power of two power of many
What was the name of that one?
It was so bad I couldn't even remember it now you see how bad it is?
I can't even remember the name
That's how much I don't care
But it fucked that whole up
I was born of the force
Now you have two girls before
Now you have another
Before Anakin was born of the force

(39:09):
I mean before yeah before Anakin was born of the force
So what the fuck does that mean?
So now what does that mean?
Yeah
Oh yeah 200 years before Anakin
200 years before Anakin
These two racially ambiguous children were born of the force
Before this Caucasian white man

(39:31):
Oh man and they made that prevalent
That was literally based off that was the show
That was the show
I'm dead
The fact that they weren't Caucasian
I'm dead
Oh man
Snod says she was entitled because they treated her special
Aang never got special treatment
Yeah
They also weren't in a hundred year war so people weren't struggling as much in my opinion

(39:54):
That's what we like to hear
Oh okay she's responding
They also weren't in a hundred year war
Yeah remember the fire Ozai was in a
It was a hundred years of the fire nation
So there was no avatar to stop him back then
But what was the biggest threat?
The guy in season one was the guy taking niggas bending away right?
Yes yeah
That's pretty serious though

(40:15):
No that's serious
It's actually pretty serious
And then he learned how to do it the final season
He's like babab and babab
Yeah that's some crazy shit
Avatar state was like
What's the other one? The guy who had like the deadly air bending?
OOOOOOO
Yeah you thought blood bending was crazy
Yeah
Bro that man was shooting it from his brain

(40:36):
Air bullets that was basically what
Wait was that in original?
No that was in
That was in Korra?
Korra yeah
With an eye bend?
Yep
No Eyebeam was in original
No
Eyebeam was in original
That was in Korra
No
Put it in pause
Eyebeam cause I clearly remember Sokka
Tweaking the fuck out over the Eyebeam

(40:59):
I thought that was in Korra
Eyebeam Avatar
No not Avatar Airbender
The last Airbender yeah
No just put Eyebeam
Oh you about to put Avatar the last
Go Jesus
I can't bro
Oh man
How you gonna think from my brain

(41:21):
Bro hold on just go real
You're not typing fast enough with your veiny hands
I hate you
Oh man
Yeah this was the last Airbender
No that was Korra
You not serious dog
Oh shit what was the last Airbender
The other one
They didn't have one in Korra?
No he was the actual Airbender that was like doing evil Airbending shit

(41:45):
Oh okay I got you
Like sucking the oxygen out of niggas
Yeah that was wild
He was doing some crazy shit
That was wild bro
No he was really
That was wild
Crazy shit man
Nah hold on
I forgot his name though
Legend of Korra
Why you hitting Legend of Korra
You said it was the last Airbender
Stop
Stop I know what you're trying to do but you're not

(42:06):
No but that's what you said
Nope
Nope nope nope nope nope
Sir you are not a gaslight me
After you just said it was the original
Nope nope nope nope nope
Nope nope nope nope
Where's the evil Airbender dude
I literally forgot his name
He was like a cult leader bro
Like some crazy shit man
Why you say Korra you said it's in the original not Korra

(42:27):
No it's in the Legend of Korra
No you said original
No I said laser beam is in the original
I said the evil Airbender is here
Is it the laser
Stop talking cause you didn't watch Legend of Korra
You're commenting on something you didn't watch
Nope he's in the original The Last Airbender
No I'm saying isn't the laser beam that he

(42:49):
That was the air that he was shooting from his forehead
No it was literally a form of firebending
So he just concentrated in it
Oh like an actual laser
Yeah it was like a different type of firebending
You know how there's like offshoots of different bendings
You know what I'm saying
Is there icebending or is that kind of like a
No that's with water

(43:11):
That's why they lived in the
Wait I thought I had bro I just had bro up on here
Ice nation or whatever
What's his name
Zaheer
There you go
He be my blood
The red lotus
Gotcha
Yeah you're right you're right
But um
Nah she was crazy bro
Nah she was crazy bro
Bro was marking niggas bro

(43:32):
She was crazy
Crazy crazy crazy crazy
Remember the show Primal
They might be coming out
The cave man
With the dinosaur
Oh season three
Yeah they might be coming out with a season three
Genity Tartacoskey
Tartarsky
Tartacoskey
Genity

(43:53):
Snasa so there wasn't any other
Airbender
He's the last airbender
Yeah until he got busy
No remember
His son was teaching other niggas how to airbender.
Okay, so Aang left his son to teach Cora
how to airbend because of course.
Some fans have developed the theory that claiming

(44:14):
Zaheer was Aang's first son and airbender.
It was established through Tenzin that Aang was very focused
on passing down air nomad culture to airbending.
Yeah, dude was like a beast of an airbender, bro.
I'm telling you, he was literally like the evil version.
But he was just evil.
He was just evil as hell.
He did the things that Aang could have done.

(44:35):
If Aang had done these things.
Without any limits.
He didn't even need the avatar stuff.
Yeah, exactly.
Like he was doing some diabolical shit.
He was a piece.
He was a peaceful monk.
Right, because he was a monk, right.
He didn't train under the whole pacifist type,
blah, blah, blah.
But like bro was, my goodness,
he did some diabolical shit, bro.

(44:55):
I got you snot.
What'd she say, snot?
She said play the Illuminati music.
Illuminati music.
I got you snot.
But no, no, no, yeah, yeah, so no.
Yeah, this guy.
This guy is Zaheer.
Zaheer.
Zaheer Zaheer.
Oh, you got a transition,
because nobody can see you.
No, I already did.
Oh, you already did.

(45:16):
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, delay.
It's a delay.
My foot.
So no, that's kind of what I was.
Right, he was fucking Korra up in her avatar state, bro.
Yeah, and she.
Because she over relied on it, bro.
She didn't want to do nothing, bro.
That's true.
Because she was easily, just like.
Because she was already talented.

(45:37):
Just like Goku and Vegeta's sons
were able to easily access Super Saiyan
and they kept using it like it was nothing.
She was able to access the avatar state
like it was nothing.
Bro, bro was dog walking her, man.
It was crazy.
Crazy work.
Crazy, crazy work.
Oh, my bad, smoke.
This really is smoke.
He's like, how dare you call me snot.

(46:00):
Oh, man, I need new glasses, man.
These are old.
No, it's like I said, the villains, honestly,
I will only watch Legend of Korra for the villains.
The villains, yeah.
Because these are really cool villains
that really explore the limits of the bending
and different things they didn't really do
in the original series.

(46:24):
Because it's like, there's a lot of things,
prime example, blood bending.
That's a hack.
But that's what I'm saying.
That's a hack.
Again, Jeff, that literally goes back
to what I'm saying with the whole substance
in storytelling and all that stuff.
Like why are you gonna have that,
I'm gonna overthink the thing.
Yeah, exactly.

(46:44):
If I can overthink it and that's why I think
it's smart for Earthbenders because there's metal in rock,
minerals, all that stuff like that.
So why would we not be able to bend it?
It's crazy to me he needed an avatar state
to destroy Fire Lord Ozai when he could just
literally vacuum the oxygen out of him.
He didn't want to.

(47:04):
Why?
Just do it.
He's a monk.
Shia LaBeouf, just do it.
Because remember what he said in the series,
he's like, I wanna learn how to take him out without.
He literally could like rupture his lung, you're done.
I get it, Jeff.
You're done.
Remember what he said.
No more Fire Nation.
Jeff, this is why you can't have powers.

(47:25):
Because I'm too smart.
Why, why am I gonna do so much work?
Why am I gonna give myself stress?
He didn't wanna do it because he wanted to figure out
a way how to take him out without killing him.
No, with least amount of damage,
destruction, collateral damage.
See that's how I know you don't care.
You don't care about the people.

(47:45):
You don't care about the people.
You're selfish.
Because you're caring about the bad guy
who's literally already massacred a bunch of people.
A whole lot of people.
And he's continuously threatening to do more damage
unless you take him out.
Okay, I'm just gonna take you out
in like the least damaging way possible
and just save as many people.
I don't care how I take you out.
You're the bad guy right now.

(48:06):
Yeah.
You see what I'm saying?
Oh no, no violent.
No, you're literally a monster.
You're a demon.
You're a goblin.
You're a demon.
Right, why do I need to go Avatar State
to take your powers away when I could just,
no oxygen. Because he didn't want to.
No oxygen, you're done.
You're done.
Ruptured your lungs.
You're done.

(48:26):
But like you said, it would be too easy.
You get what I'm saying?
But they wanted you, they wanted to care.
It's a character build.
That's such a disgusting ego thing.
Yeah, but it's a-
That's such a ego thing.
It's a character build.
No, that's no, fuck the character build.
Fuck that, no, no, no, that's such a ego thing.
But that's what it is.
But that's what it is.

(48:47):
So I can feel good about myself.
But that's what it is.
Okay, all right.
It's selfish coming from him, I agree.
That's so selfish, bro.
I'm not disappointed.
Right, that's such a selfish thing.
You gotta look at it from the perspective of,
I come out the ice, I only know air beneath,
I suck at water, don't know fire, and don't know earth.
So the character build was,
let me go around the world to learn all these things.

(49:07):
And then when he fought him and lost,
because he doesn't want to kill him,
he's like, let me figure out a way to take him out without-
I don't want to kill him after he massacred you, genocide.
He extincted your whole clan.
It is what it is.
It's crazy.
But no, he didn't do it,
because that was 100 years ago.
That was his great, great, great, great grandfather.

(49:29):
Remember, that was 100 years ago.
So that wasn't Ozai.
Ozai wasn't the one that murdered his family.
It was the first one that started the entire war.
Yeah.
So he can't get upset at somebody that didn't do it.
Yeah, he murdered a lot of people now.
But they were still continuing the ride.
Yeah, no, I get it.
No, I don't disagree.

(49:49):
To end something as horrible as it,
because realistically, like you said,
if you compare, if we had real heroes in today's world,
literally, we would literally end things like that,
just like the boys.
We ain't got time to collateral damage, safety,
and no, if I can take you out, I'm gonna take you out.
I get that part, trust me, I understand.
Like immediately, like I'm not-

(50:12):
Wasting time, yeah, I got you.
No, I'm not gonna walk through-
Three-year journey to defeat you.
I'm not here to talk to you, I'm not here to,
none of that, no speech,
I don't need to hear your background, none of that.
I don't wanna know why you did it.
You already done it.
Yeah.
We ain't going back.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's sad because it was only after a lot of people died,

(50:33):
he would get angry going to the Avatar State.
Every time Ozai did something bad-
When you could have prevented it.
Yeah, he would get angry and go to the Avatar.
Right.
And then he'll be like, I gotta hurry up and learn this,
because this is what happened.
I need to hurry up so I don't kill him.
Yeah.
He really wanted to find a way not to-
Not to kill, why?
And do what?
Because I think for him-
And do what?

(50:54):
For him, because remember some people-
Put him in jail.
Listen here, no, it's not that.
Some people have the mentality that,
because remember, he was only seen as a leader
because he had firebending powers,
and of course he's a strong warrior,
but without the firebending powers,
that was an extension of his arms and his legs.
Right.
Who is he?
So I look at it this way.
He literally wanted to,

(51:17):
he thinks him suffering without the ability to bend
is better than just a quick death.
I say do the right thing
when the opportunity presents itself.
Presents itself, I got you.
You do not sacrifice or put things in jeopardy
to force things to end up the right way.
That's crazy to me, dog.
That's a Superman.
That's crazy.
You end up losing so much in the process.

(51:39):
That's crazy.
That's Superman, that's why I don't like him.
That's crazy to me, bro.
No, Batman would just break your kneecaps.
It's like that meme you sent me,
Batman broke my arm.
Oh, that was so like,
with their interviewing, interrogating all of us.
Interrogating all of Batman's encounters.
Batman broke my arm, get shoved in.
Oh man, that was crazy work.
That was crazy.

(51:59):
You get transition back, Jeff.
Batman's a real villain, Jeff.
Who's gonna stop him?
Of course, nobody.
Who's gonna put him in the Arkham Asylum, Jeff?
Nobody, not even Superman.
Well, the Superman always says, if I can't stop you,
that he will.
You know what's actually crazy?
That is.
He broke into the asylum to beat up the villains.
What kind of fucked up shit is that, Jeff?

(52:21):
Exactly.
He sent them to jail, only to break in and fuck them up.
Yep, yep.
Some people are willing to go to jail,
thinking jail would protect them.
Nah, that nigga's a minute, dog.
Yep.
Burn.
They should do a burn.
That's so fucked up, nah.
They should do a quick one.
Nah, Bruce is a sadistic asshole.
Oh yeah, for sure.
He has a lot of anger.
Exactly, Bruce is.

(52:41):
He's like, you know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna go beat up on convicts, bro.
He's like, I'm gonna beat up on psychiatric patients today.
Cause I'm with myself.
That's crazy.
I'm dealing with childhood trauma.
That's crazy.
That I never resolved.
Are they on an island?
What, Arkham Asylum?
Yeah, the Arkham Asylum is on an island.
He's like, I'm gonna fly my billion dollar jet
onto the island, just to go fuck up some criminals.

(53:02):
That's crazy.
That is crazy.
That's wild.
Any last things you want to touch up on, sir?
No, man.
I mean, I know that, like I said,
I wanted to touch up on Primal,
but I know you didn't watch that show, man.
I'm just waiting for the next season,
cause it was a really good show.
Especially when it dove into

(53:27):
mammals' primal instincts, especially humans.
Right.
I remember that episode that I showed you,
where he had a theory of.
They met other humans, other.
Other human males.
Other hominids, right?
Other hominids, yeah.
It's like when we as human beings,
like we have a higher brain function
and a lower brain function,

(53:47):
but when we're backed into a corner,
or when we're pushed to the edge,
we use our lower brain function.
We essentially become primates.
So to the point where instinct kicks in,
and then it's like a fight or flight mode,
but most of the times for us, it's a fight.
So it's like, I don't want to die, so I have to.

(54:09):
Actually, you know what happens?
What's up?
I don't know, like.
Give me the signs, Jeff.
["Snowman's Theme"]
Whenever I'm in a high stress situation,
when it's supposed to be high stress,
I don't know, like I said,
it's like watching a car crash in slow motion.
Gotcha.
Like, I don't know.

(54:29):
Like, I don't know.
I'm just, it's super present.
Like, I just see it.
I don't know.
It's weird shit.
It's weird shit.
I don't know.
I don't know if that happens to you
when you have a close encounter.
You don't freak out, like, ah!
Like, with the passenger, right?
The passenger's like,

(54:49):
because they're not in control of the situation.
Oh yeah, yeah, I see what you mean.
So they freak out.
But in your mind, you're just like,
oh, okay, like, in my mind,
I already 50-50'd this scenario,
so I'm already ready if this happens.
Gotcha.
You see what I'm saying?
It's like when we started driving with mom
and she would always pretend to press the brake
at the passenger side,
and we're like, there's no brakes.

(55:10):
She would ghost brake.
She would ghost brake, yeah, you know?
She'd ghost brake on the passenger side,
and we're like, bro, what you doing?
Smoke says, catch this fade,
hands right at E for everyone.
Smoke says, what's y'all opinion
on what they're doing to the SSUS?
I would, I don't know.

(55:31):
What are they doing to the SSUS?
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
SSUS?
I'm gonna Google that real quick.
Yeah, let's Google.
Sorry, Smoke, we gotta Google it, you know?

(55:52):
But yeah, but was that your science of Primal?
Primal.
That was the science, guys.
Oh, the huge historic SS United States
cruised by Palm Beach County.
Where is it headed?

(56:19):
The historic SS United States ocean liner
cruised by Palm Beach County.
It's way to Alabama for cleaning before being sunk.
Oh, wow.
To create an artificial reef.
And nearly 1,000 feet long,
the 75-year-old ship is longer than the ill-fated Titanic
and unique for holding the speed record
for crossing the Atlantic Ocean,

(56:40):
a trip it made in just over three days, 10 hours.
Wow. Wow, that's awesome.
That's actually pretty awesome, wow.
The ship's top secret creation was done
in a partnership between the United States
and a private company to develop a super ship
that would be part luxury liner
and part weapon to be used during the Cold War.

(57:02):
That's crazy. That's awesome.
Yo, it was built.
They just sank it yesterday. Right, yeah.
To create a reef.
Was it? Yeah, is that what I said?
Yeah.
It was built just wide enough
to fit through the Panama Canal
and with a two-foot clearance on both sides.
That's awesome, man.
That's what they do.

(57:23):
They'll clean up a ship and then they'll sink it.
They're gonna sink it, make a coral reef for it.
Yeah, I gotcha.
No, that's crazy.
So it's served as a luxury cruise and a warship.
Yeah, that's crazy.
And a warship, that's what's up, bro.
The chefs just switch out into their fucking.
Hell yeah, we'll talk about it more when Vic comes back.
Battalion fucking uniforms and shit, that's crazy shit.
What did Vic say?

(57:44):
He says, me personally, I'm actually pissed,
not gonna lie, why are we sinking
one of the last Golden Age ships?
Yeah. Yeah, but.
But now, if you try to restore it, is it really?
That's not it.
It's not the same ship. It's not the original ship.
What was that thing is, if you remove every floorboard
from the original ship, is it the actual ship?
It was the something ship.
Yeah, or is it a new ship?
Yeah, it's like, is it really the same ship?

(58:06):
No, it's not.
The same materials, the same wood.
No.
Sit down, those fish!
You what?
Oh, man.
Sit down, those fish!
Yeah, no, so it's not really the same ship.
Once you remove every piece of metal,
all that stuff like that.

(58:28):
Brand new ship.
What you looking up, sir?
Looking for the ship, Cole?
Yeah.
What does it say, sir?

(58:48):
Yeah, ship of Theseus, sorry.
Ship of Theseus.
Yeah, the ship of Theseus.
The ship of Theseus is like,
if you replace every floorboard,
every single part of the ship, one by one,
and you end up rebuilding the entire ship,
and you took all the old parts you replaced
and put them back together, which is the original ship.

(59:09):
So it's like, now you have this nearly,
what, 75-year-old ship.
It's old.
At some point, you're gonna have to replace every part.
Now, is it still the same ship?
Nope.
Or did you just build a new ship?
Didn't they say the center piece, the,
was that the?
The, not the mast.

(59:32):
The bow or something like that?
Like the main thing that is the core,
like they did on one piece, the main thing that is,
they said if that's messed up, then your ship is gone,
so it doesn't matter if you replace everything, it's not.
Yo, yo, yo.
Um.

(59:53):
I know Vic would know.
I forgot.
Yeah, but what it makes here?
Smoke says, they restored the SS traffic.
It's about preserving the ship.
I said the same thing about Titanic artifacts.
We brought tribute because we're collecting stuff
from the ship before it's gone.
No, I feel that.
No, I got you.

(01:00:14):
I feel that.
Why don't they just put it in a museum or do like.
Like the planes.
Ooh, yeah, like a Smithsonian ship museum
or like a floating ship museum or something.
Probably cost them too much money to move
because planes have wheels.
Does anything ever cost enough money for the US, Jeff?
No.
Exactly.
Well, are they gonna do it?
No.

(01:00:34):
No, we're not.
Wham.
We have to support all these charities so we can afford it.
Wham.
Wham.
Bruh.
Oh, man, too soon.
I'm dead.
Oh, man.
You found out what the name is?
Nope, forgot.
All right, so we're good.
We're good, bro.

(01:00:55):
We're good.
Oh, forgot.
Let me see.
Damn it, they even set it in one piece.
Yeah, yeah, because on Water 7 they were saying
once that center thing is busted,

(01:01:16):
then your ship is gone.
The keel.
The keel, there you go.
The keel is broken.
Once the keel is gone, you might as well have a new ship.

(01:01:36):
It's a new ship, throw it away.
And they gave it a viking's funeral.
I love it.
Rest in peace, going Mary.
Rest in peace.
Glory of Ahala.
Glory of Ahala.
Absolutely.
Absolutely gave it the viking's funeral.
What, you got any final thoughts, sir?

(01:01:56):
No, I got any final thoughts.
No, sir.
No final thoughts?
No, sir.
Oh, I just wanted to let you guys know
there's not gonna be a Saturday stream,
but there's going to potentially be a Monday stream
depending on how I'm feeling,
because I have the dentist on Monday,
they have to do extractions.
So, I'll probably still stream.

(01:02:17):
You know, coming here looking like Blackbeard.
Hell yeah.
Zah!
Zah!
Zah!
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Yeah, they gotta do extractions in the second.
Damn.
Jeff showing them who Blackbeard,
oh, that perfect picture.
This is gonna be Jeff grilled.

(01:02:38):
Let me pause that motherfucker.
This is gonna be Jeff grilled, all good.
No, no, no, I got you, I got you.
Jeff on the, oh yeah.

(01:03:01):
Bro, you try me.
Yeah, face ass, boy.
Jeff getting them tooth extractions, bro.
All right, pause it.
Oh man, yes, sir, yes, sir.
So, they're extracting, and then of course,
they're doing the final cap.
So, we'll see what happens,
depending on how much pain I'm in,
and then I'll probably stream on Monday.

(01:03:23):
If not, definitely do it Thursday morning.
It's gonna suck, but no.
Smoke says, people don't understand
that once the ship is gone,
we lost those artifacts forever.
The sand down with the Titanic is acidic,
so it's eating the artifacts, that's facts.
Gotcha, okay.
The SS, and there are actual microbes

(01:03:45):
that eat metal on the rocks.
Yeah, yeah, I remember where he was talking about that
the last time he was here.
Oh, check those out, yeah.
Check out Smoke's Tales of the Sea episodes, man.
Yep.
They're really good, he gives a lot of info.
Breakdown details, yep.
Bounce ships, historical ships, that's real shit.
The SS, United States, once we sink it, that's it.

(01:04:06):
We have the Queen Mary, but how long until we lose her?
Well, if you become rich, go in there
and buy the artifacts before they sink it.
If they restore the ship,
they can turn it into a museum like the Queen Mary.
Oh, like, actually go into, I feel that.
Stout says, goodnight, Jax!
Yeah, any final thoughts, sir?

(01:04:28):
Final thoughts?
Yeah.
Um, got a wage cut tomorrow.
Yeah, same.
So, oh yeah, and dinner.
Oh yeah.
Gotta eat dinner.
Yeah.
I gotta remember to eat food, bro.
Yeah, you do.
That shit sucks.
You always on Everybody Has About Not Eating.
Oh, it's a lot, bro, my brain is like.

(01:04:48):
You fucking toothpick, you better eat food.
That's a lot of things knocking at my brain right now, man.
A lot of things we doing.
I gotta remember to eat.
But.
I have to start setting alarms.
I actually will actually have to start setting alarms.
He said, I'm buying the ship.
I believe you, Smokey, you should start a fundraiser, bro.

(01:05:12):
Yep.
You should start a petition.
Yep.
Let you buy it for the cheap.
Not just that, he can sell tickets
so people could come see it.
That's crazy.
It's gonna cost money to blow it up and throw it away,
but they would never give it away for free.
For free, it's weird, right?
They rather throw it away than give it away for free.
Yeah, that's crazy.

(01:05:32):
Yeah.
But you know, they're gonna sprinkle nice words.
Yeah, we're gonna make a reef for the ocean.
No, motherfucker, you just dumped your trash in that.
Yep, that's basically what it is.
I said the animals will figure it out.
Figure it out.
You what?
I'm dead, I love it, man.
I love it.
Yes, sir.

(01:05:52):
English is bullshit.
It's a lot of, lot of nothing.
A lot of empty, empty things.
Yeah.
All right, sir.
All right, chat.
Guys. Good night, Smoke.
Good night, Snot.
Thank you again for joining us at the Tabletop.
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(01:06:36):
and we'll see you on Tuesday.
See you, see you, guys.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you for everything.
Thank you for the support.
Appreciate the love.
Do not forget next week,
I'm going to be doing a little Fall Guys,
Fall Guys get together, man.
So, you know. Yeah, join us.
Join us.
Have fun with some of the guys in the chat, you know?

(01:06:58):
And we're going to have fun.
Losers.
Talk a lot of smack.
You know how it goes.
Yay!
Yay!
We were like, we got friends.
Yeah.
Growing up.
Yeah.
Black kids.
Yeah.
I didn't want to leave the hotel.
I was scared to leave the hotel.
Meanwhile, you guys smell like straight horse booty, bro.
Right?
Yeah.

(01:07:18):
That was.
Back up with the hotel.
Whoa.
Black kids.
They were my best friends.
Yeah.
Growing up.
Black kids.
Yeah.
I didn't want to leave the hotel.
I was scared to leave the hotel.
Meanwhile, you guys smell like straight horse booty, bro.
Right?
Yeah.
That was.

(01:07:38):
Back up with the hotel.
Whoa.
Black kids.
They were my best friends.
Yeah.
Growing up.
Black kids.
Yeah.
I didn't want to leave the hotel.
I was scared to leave the hotel.
Meanwhile, you guys smell like straight horse booty, bro.