February 17, 2025 • 31 mins
What if embracing change isn't as daunting as it seems? Join us on an emotional journey as we unpack personal revelations from a challenging illness and explore the profound insights gained during recovery.
Dive into a spirited discussion on balancing life's daily tasks amidst trials and triumphs. We examine how media influences our mood and the necessity of consuming uplifting content to set a positive tone for the day. With a keen eye on gender dynamics, we explore perceptions of control in various aspects of life, emphasizing the importance of understanding and maintaining friendships despite differing views. By sharing our journey from managing burnout to celebrating creativity, we aim to inspire resilience and encourage listeners to pursue their passions with vigor and joy. Get ready for a burst of inspiration and motivation to elevate your everyday experiences!
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hey, it's Jen the Builder and Corey and we're back
on the elevator after two weeksof just being down on our backs
in the bed.
Literally sick, sick, sick.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I don't know about sick, sick, sick.
I think maybe just one sick wasenough.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
For you.
I don't think you got as bad asI did, thank goodness.
Yeah, it was rough and I have alot to share on the two weeks I
had a lot of time to think like, why is my body going through
this?
Aside from the fact that it'sgoing around?
Yes, that's for sure.
Everyone we know pretty muchhas either gotten it or is in it
(01:00):
now, but there was somethingthat I took away from it that
I'm really excited to share witheverybody.
But thanks for waiting it out.
It's good to be back and in twoweeks there's been quite a
bunch of different thingshappening that we'd love to
share with you before we getinto our topic today and the
topic is right around change,resistance to it, what it does
(01:26):
to us, and you know we're justgoing to have dialogue on it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, and I like what you introduced to me, which was
the cost of change.
Yeah, so there is a charge thatcomes with changing.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, and you get to choose what price you want to
pay for it Indeed.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So, jen, I'm going to jump in and start with a few
really cool things that happenedfor me in the last couple of
days.
One of the things is, we'veperformed twice back to back on
the 14th and the 15th, and wehad some pretty amazing people
show up.
The 15th, and we had somepretty amazing people show up
(02:08):
and I'm just sending a shout outto those of you who came out to
hear us play.
One of my co-workers, art, cameout and another co-worker, jen,
came out and supported us onthe 14th, which was Valentine's
Day, amazing Sweet.
And then the next night, whichwas the 15th, some people came
out and supported the ShamelessBand, and we just really want to
say thank you to everybody thatcame out who is listening, and
(02:29):
even if you're not, you know,it's just nice to know that
there's people that's willing tosupport you.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I agree, and the 15th was quite fun.
I was able to go to that oneand it's really cool when you're
playing at a place that's arestaurant, slash bar, no dance
floor floor, but people are upand dancing throughout the
restaurant.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
That was really cool.
Right, it was.
That was real cool.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I had a great time with that, with that show yeah,
it reminds me of years ago whenyou first started the band and
you played at breweries and itwas during covid and uh, you
were just starting off and Iremember it was like almost
mandatory for me every time youplayed to get up and dance.
Plus, I loved the music.
I still love the music and uh,it just reminded me, man, it's
(03:14):
been four years yeah four years,wow.
And I just had a recall momentwhen we were at September's in
Rialto.
I went back to day one and whatthat first gig was like.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And then here y'all are here we are um number two
thing, uh, number.
The number two thing that Iwanted to point out is, uh, we
had a really good interactionwith a family that had two
children, that uh, purchased thebooks and Valentina and Maximus
(03:50):
, our new fuzzy furry forestfriends, so sweet.
That was great, and and notjust those two, but we really
interacted with those uh twochildren.
That's why I'm bringing it up.
But to summarize it, I will sayeveryone that has purchased a
book, which has been great,Amazing, Right.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I wish I had written all their names down, because we
autographed quite a few books.
This week.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Right, I know I did sign one to air, which was a
coworker.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's a cool name Air Air Jordan.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
No A I R E air Nice, and so a cool name Air, air
Jordan.
No a I R E air Nice, and so, uh, I signed one for her um this
past week, and then we've justbeen signing books left and
right, a lot of books, yeah.
So that's been a great uh greattime, just really fun.
And, by the way, if you'relistening and you haven't got a
book from the Fuzzy Furry Forest, please feel free to go to
(04:46):
Amazoncom and order from eitherCorey L Body that's K-O-R-Y L,
as in Larry B-O-D-Y and order aFuzzy Furry Forest book.
Or you can go to Genevieve, whois an author on the Amazon page
as well, which is so amazing tofinally be able to say and put
(05:08):
that out there yeah, like I havea legit author's page to get
this.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Guys, it's so funny, of course.
Like, did you create yourauthor's page?
I'm like, yes, I did it, Iwrote the stuff, but it's not
going through.
So I changed my image, thinkingthat maybe my image was too big
of a file.
And guess what, all this timeit was my fault.
Yes, the ball was in cory'scourt.
We didn't know he had toofficially approve it, because
(05:32):
it's a book series that hestarted right right yeah.
So I don't know, cory, when youpull up my name, is it only
gonna find sheriff slinky snake?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
or is it gonna yeah?
so unfortunately, yeah I wouldlook for cory l body, so you can
have a choice of getting allthree books, which I highly
recommend because it is a seriesit is um, and the one that I'm
on, of course, is sheriff'sleaky snake, yeah yeah, um, last
but not least, I'm gonnaaddress History Month, and not
(06:04):
because I have to, but because Iwant to.
You know, I am a person ofcolor, I'm Black, and I think
this is a very important time,not just for Black people, but
for all races and cultures andcreeds.
The reason why I say that, guys, is not because I think that
everyone should know everyone'sculture, but it's nice if we
(06:25):
would, or if we do, um, I, Idefinitely study Filipino
culture, I'm married to aFilipina and I study American
culture, and I study, um Asianculture and Hispanic culture.
Uh, why?
Because I live here on thisearth with people of all those
backgrounds, and it's not justabout me, it's about everybody.
(06:49):
And how do I interact withpeople if I'm only thinking
about me when I'm interactingwith them?
So that's my rationale.
You create your own, or maybenot, but Black History was a
success.
I created a short film for ourcompany and I was able to
showcase it in one of the mainrooms and I got a lot of
(07:09):
engagement and it was a blast.
I had a great time.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
What I loved about the feedback is that everybody I
talked to based on your filmlearned something new.
There was something that theyhadn't realized about Black
History, so that was pretty neat.
It was so cool.
If I may share, the film wascalled.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
The Indigenous Spectrum.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes, and I loved it because it went from all the
shades of black, yeah, and justpeople that fit in each shade
and what they've brought forth,and now we honor them throughout
black history.
So, anyhow, that was amazing.
I loved watching it.
Oh, and then Corey had it setup to where, when you went into
(07:56):
the room, it felt like fourdifferent theaters, and so I
felt like we had our own privatescreening of the film.
That was a neat experiencePopcorn, red vines, the whole
shaboying-boying.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, very neat.
I had a few wins and they'repretty much the ones you
mentioned, because when you'rewinning, I'm winning, and when
you're winning, I'm winning.
Yeah, so there was, just forfor me, a lot of introspective
moments where I felt like thosewere wins, because I had a lot
(08:31):
of aha moments, things that kindof left me feeling shafted or
alone or confused.
I got a lot of clarity on and Ithink that's what's really
inspiring today's episode.
Right, I know we've talked aboutchange this is not a new topic,
but I think this part is and Ifelt like in my body, like just
(08:51):
really tired, fatigued, worn out, I didn't have the energy, I
didn't have the desire to reallyget up and function too much to
really get up and function toomuch.
And I just realized like everyday I was experiencing major
change and it just wasn't onechange, it was multiple changes
(09:13):
throughout the day.
So I know, as a collective herein our country, we're all
feeling that.
All of us like every day it'ssomething new.
You've got to keep up withwhat's happening with our
administration and things thatare getting signed.
How does it impact us?
How does it impact people?
(09:33):
we know right yeah people, wework with, people, um, in our
friend circle and our families.
So just navigating that, Ithink, really took a toll on me.
And then, because I am the waythat I am, when people come to
me I have a tendency to reallycarry it.
So now I'm not just carrying myexperiences but other people's
(09:56):
and trying to be a voice forthem, and I think that's where
it just really took a toll.
So, corey, can I just sharewith you all what I came to, and
it's nothing like profound, Ipromise it's not.
It's just a reminder that lifeis not fair yeah, I'm open for
it.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I want to hear these.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, I mean, that's what it is.
Because I was playing back mydialogue and I recalled, like,
when I was talking to peoplelike this isn't fair.
You know, I'm really upsetbecause it's not fair, it's not
right.
And then I realized, you know,life at the end of the day is
(10:35):
just not fair.
My sentence following that thisis my conclusion, and I'll talk
about how I got to here is thatI have to let life go flow
through me, because there'ssomething that happens when
there's resistance, and I meanchronic resistance, when we're
(10:57):
in that space of resistance fortoo long.
Does that make sense, cory?
Oh yeah, do you know what I'm?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
talking about.
I believe I I'm on the sametrack as you, but I just want to
make sure yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
so once I've tried everything I could whether it be
in conversation, in motion, inmovement, in email, in
conversation and at the end ofthe day, this change is
happening right.
There's no way to change thechange, it just is.
I've noticed that when I'vehung on too tight to this is not
(11:31):
how it should be, this isn'tfair.
It would just break me down,and so I wasn't able to break
through those moments, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
So that's what I mean by let life just flow through
you, because if you have allthese walls up and we resist the
change instead of making thechange be about me, then it
weighs too much on me.
(12:02):
So what I'm saying is, if I'vedone what I need to do to make
an impact, to let my voice beheard, an impact to let my voice
be heard, being in silence andchanging my attitude towards the
thing so I can flow through.
It is what I'm talking aboutyeah I really think that's why I
was down for the two weeks,because mentally I was just
(12:24):
wiped oh, I just had an ahamoment what is it?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
so I think that's probably why I wasn't down then,
because what I do and what Idid consciously, because you
know I was going through a lotof different changes and ups and
downs but I look at it andplease, guys, don't be offended
by the way I say this, becausesome people may take offense
like, oh well, who does he thinkhe is?
(12:50):
But's not that, it's justreframing and looking at it from
a different perspective.
I never run around here sayinglife is so fair, oh, life is so
fair, fair to me, fair toeveryone because life has not
been one of those things that'sgoing to give evenly to everyone
.
So I'm never looking for thefairness in life, I'm always
(13:14):
looking for what's for me andwhat's fair for me.
Is it fair for me to struggleand have to pay bills?
I mean, that seems to beeverybody's plight in life.
So that's what I'm doing.
I just want to look for theeasiest way possible to approach
that.
And so when I was being attackedwith sickness and challenges
(13:38):
and changes in life, I'm lookingfor the easiest pathway through
that and what's fair for me.
And when I realize something'snot fair enough for me, then I
even the playing field and Ilook for a way to even the
playing field.
There's tasks at work that I'mrequired to do on a daily basis.
(13:59):
However, in good times I canadd more to the plate based on
how much time I have and whatI'm doing.
On a bad day, I'm removing theextras to try to work through it
the best way I can.
I hope that helps help someoneand gives them a little bit of a
(14:20):
different outlook at this.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That's really good.
It sounds like a way to center.
It's almost like when you havetoo much negative, you've got to
balance it with inviting morepositive moments and things to
look for Right.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And then when you have good, positive moments all
around you, the couple ofnegative things that come are
offset, you know.
So I think that's really,really sound advice.
Um, now for someone like me,where it can spiral quickly
(15:03):
because you're just taking on somuch and you get overwhelmed by
the negative.
In fact, it probably wasn't agood idea for me to open the
news right in the morning youknow?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
yeah, because that will be a debbie downer for some
and the it's uplifting forothers.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You just never know, you know yeah, the expectation
right now is there's going to benew news, and if you're not in
the mindset to take on anythingnew because you're still
processing what's happening,maybe the wisest thing for me to
do would just maybe tune into asong that you know is positive
(15:40):
or a podcast that's gonna chargeme up or be in good
conversation like take theelevator, yeah like that podcast
would be great.
So it just brought me back tothe reason why people resist
change.
Because it's always importantfor me to understand, okay, why
(16:01):
am I resisting this so tough,like what's really happening?
Because when I go through that,I have a tendency to not repeat
the same kind of experience.
Like I really need to learnfrom this experience so it
doesn't happen again, right?
So I think for me and a lot ofmy friends, it's really that
(16:23):
loss of control, like a lot ofpeople feel like they're not in
control of what's going on.
They're not in control of theirown lives.
Someone else might be, and whoreally likes that?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well, let me slightly give some different narratives.
Yeah, I need all the help.
I think honestly, jen and againI'm not trying to be offensive
I think that's a woman issue.
Men are used to someone elsebeing in control, especially
(17:01):
when you're talking aboutemployment, you know, dealing
with banks, dealing with lendersand brokers and so forth and so
on.
At jobs or places of employment, you always have someone in
control, someone above you,telling you what, what the do's
(17:24):
and don'ts are, because womenare new to the control game.
They think that there's a pointin life that they're going to
be at the very top of the foodchain and be able to tell
everybody what to do, and it'snot going to ever happen that
way.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And I hope that doesn't land too hard.
I think that might land alittle funky for some.
It's kind of landing iffy withme, if I may I kind of figured
that yeah, it's all over my face?
I'm sure so, but again, what?
What I appreciate about takethe elevator is that we've
agreed to not always agree tothe same thing, right, that's
(18:08):
what makes community soimportant, and I think,
especially in this day and age,there's a lot of differences of
opinions going on absolutely andI.
I just refuse right now to endfriendships because we have
differing opinions oh yeah, youknow, it's like no, what does?
that even mean, I think too.
(18:29):
I think maybe, for, becauseright now the change I'm feeling
is not really centered aroundbills and promotions per se.
I think the change really isaround relationships and the
risk of losing how we're used toexperiencing those
(18:53):
relationships.
So whenever someone feelsthreatened or someone you care
about is threatened, that's forme a loss of control and there's
an emotional attachment, right,I think maybe this is more of a
female thing and you can tellme, corey, if you go through
this, whether it's a job,relationship or routine, we
(19:16):
really form deep emotionalconnections to the way things
are, and so when those change,it's like well, no, I, I don't
like, I don't like it like that,I like it the way it was.
There was nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You know what I mean yeah, I know exactly what you
mean and I that's what I wasattempting to say in my in.
Okay, um, because a lot oftimes, men are just like you
know what it is, what it is andthat's what it's gonna be.
So I'm not gonna waste time oremotion on feeling this way at
this point, because nothing'sreally gonna change about that.
(19:52):
Um, and and I'm going to addthis to that as well that's why
men carry things so differentlythan women do.
We'll carry 10, 15, 20 years ofa burden that it really doesn't
belong to us, but we'recarrying it because we know if
(20:14):
we offload it, somebody else isgoing to pick that up.
And then there's even worseproblems and consequences.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
See, I think women are really good at offloading.
Yeah, I mean, as a woman, I'vecarried things, but this is what
happens when I carry it for toolong, right?
So, and that's what leads tothe cost of resistance, right,
and that's where it reallybrought us to.
So, in the same way thatthere's emotional attachment
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when you resist it, the cost isan emotional drainage.
So it leads to frustration, itcan lead to burnout, even
moments of sadness or evendepression.
You know what I mean, andthat's why it's just important
for me to say dude, let this go.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
So imagine this Some time ago men's death rate was
very, very low, like 40, 50, 60.
In that age bracket men werehitting those high numbers in
heart attack stroke.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
so forth and so on.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Those numbers have changed over the years because
women are now in the workforceand they're taking on some of
the burdens.
So you can see the shift in theway things are happening.
And when you're used tocarrying certain loads, then you
just, you know, take that toyour grave, whether it be at a
young age or an older age, andnow I think women are
(21:45):
experiencing the same thing.
And again, that's what I waskind of leaning towards, not
trying to offend anyone no, yeah, great way to explain.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I'm glad it came out yeah um, so I know that you and
I just being very transparentand vulnerable here is we've.
You know, we had somerelationship struggles the last
couple of weeks.
Um, because I think you justpointed out really good about
moving forward and I was stillkind of resisting and standing
(22:15):
still, and so there's tension.
Imagine what that's like, whereyou're way ahead of me and I'm
still back here Like wait aminute, I haven't figured this
out and you want me to move andI feel kind of paralyzed in all
of this Right, so that can causea struggle there.
All of this right.
(22:37):
So, yeah, that can cause astruggle there.
Um, and I just went back to whenin my life have I resisted
change, only to realize laterthat it was exactly what I
needed, and those are the.
That's the one question that Ijust answered and said you know,
I've been through many changesand I didn't like some of them
and it turned out to be thebetter thing for me.
You know, some people right nowmight relate to they lost a job
(23:00):
only to find, um, a hundredpercent autonomy as a business
owner, cause it forced them thatway you know or?
you lost a job and it broughtyou to your dream job, or you
had a breakup and you're like,oh my God, how can I live
without this person?
And you find out that it wasactually a breakthrough and you
were able to find yourselfhealthier and be in a better
(23:22):
relationship oh, that's a wholenother podcast breakup or
breakthrough yeah, that is onewe might want to hold on to,
that, for later, sure will so Ithink for me, during the time of
being down for two weeks, isjust this shifting from again
the resistance to being moreresilient through these changes,
(23:45):
because it's just required ofus.
You know, like I, I want tochoose to grow through it and
just take on these changes andand be up for the challenge of
it all.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, and again, as you already stated, life is
changing drastically, um in thepolitical climate, in the actual
climate, like the, the weather.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, isn't that a trip?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's just impacting yeah everything.
The weather is going bonkersall over the country right now,
so it's, uh, just one of thosethings that we're we got to get
used to and begin tocompartmentalize in a whole
different way.
Jen, something just hit me andI gotta say it, but I want you
to give the details.
(24:34):
You're going to be on a podcastthis coming Thursday.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I am, so it's my first one, and there's more
lined up that I'm lookingforward to.
This one is on dope confidence.
That's the name of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Did you say dope, d O P E confidence Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Right, yeah, yeah.
Podcast.
Did you say dope d-o-p-econfidence?
Okay, right, yeah, yeah.
And so that was so much funbeing in the other seat not
hosting but just being the guestand I was a lot because I was
tired.
Right, it was the end of the dayand I thought, oh my goodness,
it's too late to drink coffee.
I won't do that, and just beingon this podcast with Amanda
(25:20):
just woke me the heck up and Idon't know.
I think I might have been a lotfor her to keep up with.
She did beautifully.
She's an excellent host.
I felt right at home.
But if you want to check it out, it's being released this
Thursday, which is like I don'tknow what, that, what.
That date is 20th.
That sounds about right 20th.
And again, it's the dopeconfidence hosted by Amanda and
(25:45):
um.
Check it out, let me know whatyou think.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, it's the 20th the 20th.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
It's a whole nother perspective of me.
For sure, being in that seatwas interesting.
I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'mtalking about things about me
that I don't talk about on thepodcast.
Being in the scene on take theelevator is a very humbling role
.
Um, it's very in support to theperson that I'm talking to,
including you you know,absolutely so I don't ever like,
(26:12):
oh yeah, this and this for me.
I mean I share some of mythoughts, but I don't unpack it
all here, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So that's great, and if you need a link, then we'll
be posting a link and posting.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, I'll put on my Instagram.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, Instagram, Facebook, all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yes, okay, before I forget, because this happens to
me a lot, I just wanted to makesure to share this too, as we're
clearly going into the end ofthis episode is one of the
things that came to my mind inthese last two weeks is that
there's that saying that timeheals all things, and I beg to
differ on that.
I think it's what you do withthat time that heals all things,
(26:55):
because time goes by.
As we have stated multipletimes, time is going by so
rapidly and it's not that timethat heals you, it's what you do
during that time.
So that just really laid animpression on me in such a
powerful way.
So, corey, today we worked onsome stuff for Genco really laid
(27:19):
an impression on me in such apowerful way.
So, corey, like today we workedon some stuff for Genco and
Mike, I have today to do this.
What am I going to do with thistime?
And, by the way, we're buildingthe website, so it's published.
It's not completely done, butif y'all want to check it out,
our website for genco isthegencocom.
So genco is spelled g-e-n-k-o,because duh, jen, the builder,
(27:40):
and cory together is genco.
So check it out, let us knowwhat you think.
We're starting to build ourlittle empire, trying to make
some moves and roll with thechange so that the that life
flows through us and we're notor flow to us.
I like that yeah yeah, so wewere going to say something,
(28:01):
though, about, so the podcast ison thursday and we're doing
some links and posts on uhsocial medias that's right.
Yes, and we're pushing our bookbecause and yes, I'm addressing
the ladies ladies, on mother'sday, god willing, um, the next
book for the fuzzy furry forestcomes out and it's on kelly the
(28:23):
kangaroo, and this one is gonnahit hard, I promise you.
This is all about motherhood,our relationship with our
children, who are growing up soquickly, and the concept of time
and the song that goes withthis.
Like I'm so excited about thisone, like I want to do a one day
(28:44):
or half a day retreat withwomen and their and their kids
women, you know, and I I can seeit.
I just don't have it pinned,but I think it it's gonna have
to be something to that extentyeah, this is gonna be a really
good read for moms and um.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I enjoyed writing it with you, jen.
It was one of those experienceslike, um, writing a good song
with someone, like writing agreat number one hit song with
someone and I've never done that, but I've written some good
songs and this was that samefeeling like, oh, we really hit
(29:26):
the sweet spot with this one.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I'm all in agreement on that one.
Even to this day, when I readthe book and I play the song
after I cry, it's like thattouching.
But you know I'm a sentimentalschmuck.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You're a funny one too.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I don't think there's any new announcements, Corey.
The band's next gig is March1st, so more to come on that.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, March 1st March 14th and then the 28th, and
we're stacking up dates left andright and it's just a blast.
Oh my goodness.
I'm so excited about what'stranspiring and going on with
the band and I'm also happy withthe books.
It's a lot to be excited about,but it's a lot of work, guys.
Um, but we welcome it and wewelcome to share all of it with
(30:23):
you so that you can understandhow either to do it or it's
being done.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, and I know the band plateaued for a minute
there and so I love seeing theelevation, you know.
And so if you all are out thereand you're waiting for the
thing to pick up to gain sometraction, well it's don't give
up.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It's exactly what you said.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's what we did with the time to heal and then
things begin to happen for youhey, well, you know's to take
the elevator.
We say look up, and let'selevate Every day, elevate Every
(31:06):
day.
Oh, happy belated hearts day,everyone, much love.
Hey, it's Jen the Builder and Corey and we're back
on the elevator after two weeksof just being down on our backs
in the bed.
Literally sick, sick, sick.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I don't know about sick, sick, sick.
I think maybe just one sick wasenough.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
For you.
I don't think you got as bad asI did, thank goodness.
Yeah, it was rough and I have alot to share on the two weeks I
had a lot of time to think like, why is my body going through
this?
Aside from the fact that it'sgoing around?
Yes, that's for sure.
Everyone we know pretty muchhas either gotten it or is in it
(01:00):
now, but there was somethingthat I took away from it that
I'm really excited to share witheverybody.
But thanks for waiting it out.
It's good to be back and in twoweeks there's been quite a
bunch of different thingshappening that we'd love to
share with you before we getinto our topic today and the
topic is right around change,resistance to it, what it does
(01:26):
to us, and you know we're justgoing to have dialogue on it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, and I like what you introduced to me, which was
the cost of change.
Yeah, so there is a charge thatcomes with changing.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, and you get to choose what price you want to
pay for it Indeed.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So, jen, I'm going to jump in and start with a few
really cool things that happenedfor me in the last couple of
days.
One of the things is, we'veperformed twice back to back on
the 14th and the 15th, and wehad some pretty amazing people
show up.
The 15th, and we had somepretty amazing people show up
(02:08):
and I'm just sending a shout outto those of you who came out to
hear us play.
One of my co-workers, art, cameout and another co-worker, jen,
came out and supported us onthe 14th, which was Valentine's
Day, amazing Sweet.
And then the next night, whichwas the 15th, some people came
out and supported the ShamelessBand, and we just really want to
say thank you to everybody thatcame out who is listening, and
(02:29):
even if you're not, you know,it's just nice to know that
there's people that's willing tosupport you.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I agree, and the 15th was quite fun.
I was able to go to that oneand it's really cool when you're
playing at a place that's arestaurant, slash bar, no dance
floor floor, but people are upand dancing throughout the
restaurant.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
That was really cool.
Right, it was.
That was real cool.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I had a great time with that, with that show yeah,
it reminds me of years ago whenyou first started the band and
you played at breweries and itwas during covid and uh, you
were just starting off and Iremember it was like almost
mandatory for me every time youplayed to get up and dance.
Plus, I loved the music.
I still love the music and uh,it just reminded me, man, it's
(03:14):
been four years yeah four years,wow.
And I just had a recall momentwhen we were at September's in
Rialto.
I went back to day one and whatthat first gig was like.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And then here y'all are here we are um number two
thing, uh, number.
The number two thing that Iwanted to point out is, uh, we
had a really good interactionwith a family that had two
children, that uh, purchased thebooks and Valentina and Maximus
(03:50):
, our new fuzzy furry forestfriends, so sweet.
That was great, and and notjust those two, but we really
interacted with those uh twochildren.
That's why I'm bringing it up.
But to summarize it, I will sayeveryone that has purchased a
book, which has been great,Amazing, Right.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I wish I had written all their names down, because we
autographed quite a few books.
This week.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Right, I know I did sign one to air, which was a
coworker.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's a cool name Air Air Jordan.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
No A I R E air Nice, and so a cool name Air, air
Jordan.
No a I R E air Nice, and so, uh, I signed one for her um this
past week, and then we've justbeen signing books left and
right, a lot of books, yeah.
So that's been a great uh greattime, just really fun.
And, by the way, if you'relistening and you haven't got a
book from the Fuzzy Furry Forest, please feel free to go to
(04:46):
Amazoncom and order from eitherCorey L Body that's K-O-R-Y L,
as in Larry B-O-D-Y and order aFuzzy Furry Forest book.
Or you can go to Genevieve, whois an author on the Amazon page
as well, which is so amazing tofinally be able to say and put
(05:08):
that out there yeah, like I havea legit author's page to get
this.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Guys, it's so funny, of course.
Like, did you create yourauthor's page?
I'm like, yes, I did it, Iwrote the stuff, but it's not
going through.
So I changed my image, thinkingthat maybe my image was too big
of a file.
And guess what, all this timeit was my fault.
Yes, the ball was in cory'scourt.
We didn't know he had toofficially approve it, because
(05:32):
it's a book series that hestarted right right yeah.
So I don't know, cory, when youpull up my name, is it only
gonna find sheriff slinky snake?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
or is it gonna yeah?
so unfortunately, yeah I wouldlook for cory l body, so you can
have a choice of getting allthree books, which I highly
recommend because it is a seriesit is um, and the one that I'm
on, of course, is sheriff'sleaky snake, yeah yeah, um, last
but not least, I'm gonnaaddress History Month, and not
(06:04):
because I have to, but because Iwant to.
You know, I am a person ofcolor, I'm Black, and I think
this is a very important time,not just for Black people, but
for all races and cultures andcreeds.
The reason why I say that, guys, is not because I think that
everyone should know everyone'sculture, but it's nice if we
(06:25):
would, or if we do, um, I, Idefinitely study Filipino
culture, I'm married to aFilipina and I study American
culture, and I study, um Asianculture and Hispanic culture.
Uh, why?
Because I live here on thisearth with people of all those
backgrounds, and it's not justabout me, it's about everybody.
(06:49):
And how do I interact withpeople if I'm only thinking
about me when I'm interactingwith them?
So that's my rationale.
You create your own, or maybenot, but Black History was a
success.
I created a short film for ourcompany and I was able to
showcase it in one of the mainrooms and I got a lot of
(07:09):
engagement and it was a blast.
I had a great time.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
What I loved about the feedback is that everybody I
talked to based on your filmlearned something new.
There was something that theyhadn't realized about Black
History, so that was pretty neat.
It was so cool.
If I may share, the film wascalled.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
The Indigenous Spectrum.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes, and I loved it because it went from all the
shades of black, yeah, and justpeople that fit in each shade
and what they've brought forth,and now we honor them throughout
black history.
So, anyhow, that was amazing.
I loved watching it.
Oh, and then Corey had it setup to where, when you went into
(07:56):
the room, it felt like fourdifferent theaters, and so I
felt like we had our own privatescreening of the film.
That was a neat experiencePopcorn, red vines, the whole
shaboying-boying.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, very neat.
I had a few wins and they'repretty much the ones you
mentioned, because when you'rewinning, I'm winning, and when
you're winning, I'm winning.
Yeah, so there was, just forfor me, a lot of introspective
moments where I felt like thosewere wins, because I had a lot
(08:31):
of aha moments, things that kindof left me feeling shafted or
alone or confused.
I got a lot of clarity on and Ithink that's what's really
inspiring today's episode.
Right, I know we've talked aboutchange this is not a new topic,
but I think this part is and Ifelt like in my body, like just
(08:51):
really tired, fatigued, worn out, I didn't have the energy, I
didn't have the desire to reallyget up and function too much to
really get up and function toomuch.
And I just realized like everyday I was experiencing major
change and it just wasn't onechange, it was multiple changes
(09:13):
throughout the day.
So I know, as a collective herein our country, we're all
feeling that.
All of us like every day it'ssomething new.
You've got to keep up withwhat's happening with our
administration and things thatare getting signed.
How does it impact us?
How does it impact people?
(09:33):
we know right yeah people, wework with, people, um, in our
friend circle and our families.
So just navigating that, Ithink, really took a toll on me.
And then, because I am the waythat I am, when people come to
me I have a tendency to reallycarry it.
So now I'm not just carrying myexperiences but other people's
(09:56):
and trying to be a voice forthem, and I think that's where
it just really took a toll.
So, corey, can I just sharewith you all what I came to, and
it's nothing like profound, Ipromise it's not.
It's just a reminder that lifeis not fair yeah, I'm open for
it.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I want to hear these.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, I mean, that's what it is.
Because I was playing back mydialogue and I recalled, like,
when I was talking to peoplelike this isn't fair.
You know, I'm really upsetbecause it's not fair, it's not
right.
And then I realized, you know,life at the end of the day is
(10:35):
just not fair.
My sentence following that thisis my conclusion, and I'll talk
about how I got to here is thatI have to let life go flow
through me, because there'ssomething that happens when
there's resistance, and I meanchronic resistance, when we're
(10:57):
in that space of resistance fortoo long.
Does that make sense, cory?
Oh yeah, do you know what I'm?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
talking about.
I believe I I'm on the sametrack as you, but I just want to
make sure yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
so once I've tried everything I could whether it be
in conversation, in motion, inmovement, in email, in
conversation and at the end ofthe day, this change is
happening right.
There's no way to change thechange, it just is.
I've noticed that when I'vehung on too tight to this is not
(11:31):
how it should be, this isn'tfair.
It would just break me down,and so I wasn't able to break
through those moments, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
So that's what I mean by let life just flow through
you, because if you have allthese walls up and we resist the
change instead of making thechange be about me, then it
weighs too much on me.
(12:02):
So what I'm saying is, if I'vedone what I need to do to make
an impact, to let my voice beheard, an impact to let my voice
be heard, being in silence andchanging my attitude towards the
thing so I can flow through.
It is what I'm talking aboutyeah I really think that's why I
was down for the two weeks,because mentally I was just
(12:24):
wiped oh, I just had an ahamoment what is it?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
so I think that's probably why I wasn't down then,
because what I do and what Idid consciously, because you
know I was going through a lotof different changes and ups and
downs but I look at it andplease, guys, don't be offended
by the way I say this, becausesome people may take offense
like, oh well, who does he thinkhe is?
(12:50):
But's not that, it's justreframing and looking at it from
a different perspective.
I never run around here sayinglife is so fair, oh, life is so
fair, fair to me, fair toeveryone because life has not
been one of those things that'sgoing to give evenly to everyone
.
So I'm never looking for thefairness in life, I'm always
(13:14):
looking for what's for me andwhat's fair for me.
Is it fair for me to struggleand have to pay bills?
I mean, that seems to beeverybody's plight in life.
So that's what I'm doing.
I just want to look for theeasiest way possible to approach
that.
And so when I was being attackedwith sickness and challenges
(13:38):
and changes in life, I'm lookingfor the easiest pathway through
that and what's fair for me.
And when I realize something'snot fair enough for me, then I
even the playing field and Ilook for a way to even the
playing field.
There's tasks at work that I'mrequired to do on a daily basis.
(13:59):
However, in good times I canadd more to the plate based on
how much time I have and whatI'm doing.
On a bad day, I'm removing theextras to try to work through it
the best way I can.
I hope that helps help someoneand gives them a little bit of a
(14:20):
different outlook at this.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That's really good.
It sounds like a way to center.
It's almost like when you havetoo much negative, you've got to
balance it with inviting morepositive moments and things to
look for Right.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And then when you have good, positive moments all
around you, the couple ofnegative things that come are
offset, you know.
So I think that's really,really sound advice.
Um, now for someone like me,where it can spiral quickly
(15:03):
because you're just taking on somuch and you get overwhelmed by
the negative.
In fact, it probably wasn't agood idea for me to open the
news right in the morning youknow?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
yeah, because that will be a debbie downer for some
and the it's uplifting forothers.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You just never know, you know yeah, the expectation
right now is there's going to benew news, and if you're not in
the mindset to take on anythingnew because you're still
processing what's happening,maybe the wisest thing for me to
do would just maybe tune into asong that you know is positive
(15:40):
or a podcast that's gonna chargeme up or be in good
conversation like take theelevator, yeah like that podcast
would be great.
So it just brought me back tothe reason why people resist
change.
Because it's always importantfor me to understand, okay, why
(16:01):
am I resisting this so tough,like what's really happening?
Because when I go through that,I have a tendency to not repeat
the same kind of experience.
Like I really need to learnfrom this experience so it
doesn't happen again, right?
So I think for me and a lot ofmy friends, it's really that
(16:23):
loss of control, like a lot ofpeople feel like they're not in
control of what's going on.
They're not in control of theirown lives.
Someone else might be, and whoreally likes that?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well, let me slightly give some different narratives.
Yeah, I need all the help.
I think honestly, jen and againI'm not trying to be offensive
I think that's a woman issue.
Men are used to someone elsebeing in control, especially
(17:01):
when you're talking aboutemployment, you know, dealing
with banks, dealing with lendersand brokers and so forth and so
on.
At jobs or places of employment, you always have someone in
control, someone above you,telling you what, what the do's
(17:24):
and don'ts are, because womenare new to the control game.
They think that there's a pointin life that they're going to
be at the very top of the foodchain and be able to tell
everybody what to do, and it'snot going to ever happen that
way.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And I hope that doesn't land too hard.
I think that might land alittle funky for some.
It's kind of landing iffy withme, if I may I kind of figured
that yeah, it's all over my face?
I'm sure so, but again, what?
What I appreciate about takethe elevator is that we've
agreed to not always agree tothe same thing, right, that's
(18:08):
what makes community soimportant, and I think,
especially in this day and age,there's a lot of differences of
opinions going on absolutely andI.
I just refuse right now to endfriendships because we have
differing opinions oh yeah, youknow, it's like no, what does?
that even mean, I think too.
(18:29):
I think maybe, for, becauseright now the change I'm feeling
is not really centered aroundbills and promotions per se.
I think the change really isaround relationships and the
risk of losing how we're used toexperiencing those
(18:53):
relationships.
So whenever someone feelsthreatened or someone you care
about is threatened, that's forme a loss of control and there's
an emotional attachment, right,I think maybe this is more of a
female thing and you can tellme, corey, if you go through
this, whether it's a job,relationship or routine, we
(19:16):
really form deep emotionalconnections to the way things
are, and so when those change,it's like well, no, I, I don't
like, I don't like it like that,I like it the way it was.
There was nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You know what I mean yeah, I know exactly what you
mean and I that's what I wasattempting to say in my in.
Okay, um, because a lot oftimes, men are just like you
know what it is, what it is andthat's what it's gonna be.
So I'm not gonna waste time oremotion on feeling this way at
this point, because nothing'sreally gonna change about that.
(19:52):
Um, and and I'm going to addthis to that as well that's why
men carry things so differentlythan women do.
We'll carry 10, 15, 20 years ofa burden that it really doesn't
belong to us, but we'recarrying it because we know if
(20:14):
we offload it, somebody else isgoing to pick that up.
And then there's even worseproblems and consequences.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
See, I think women are really good at offloading.
Yeah, I mean, as a woman, I'vecarried things, but this is what
happens when I carry it for toolong, right?
So, and that's what leads tothe cost of resistance, right,
and that's where it reallybrought us to.
So, in the same way thatthere's emotional attachment
(20:44):
when you resist it, the cost isan emotional drainage.
So it leads to frustration, itcan lead to burnout, even
moments of sadness or evendepression.
You know what I mean, andthat's why it's just important
for me to say dude, let this go.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
So imagine this Some time ago men's death rate was
very, very low, like 40, 50, 60.
In that age bracket men werehitting those high numbers in
heart attack stroke.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
so forth and so on.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Those numbers have changed over the years because
women are now in the workforceand they're taking on some of
the burdens.
So you can see the shift in theway things are happening.
And when you're used tocarrying certain loads, then you
just, you know, take that toyour grave, whether it be at a
young age or an older age, andnow I think women are
(21:45):
experiencing the same thing.
And again, that's what I waskind of leaning towards, not
trying to offend anyone no, yeah, great way to explain.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I'm glad it came out yeah um, so I know that you and
I just being very transparentand vulnerable here is we've.
You know, we had somerelationship struggles the last
couple of weeks.
Um, because I think you justpointed out really good about
moving forward and I was stillkind of resisting and standing
(22:15):
still, and so there's tension.
Imagine what that's like, whereyou're way ahead of me and I'm
still back here Like wait aminute, I haven't figured this
out and you want me to move andI feel kind of paralyzed in all
of this Right, so that can causea struggle there.
All of this right.
(22:37):
So, yeah, that can cause astruggle there.
Um, and I just went back to whenin my life have I resisted
change, only to realize laterthat it was exactly what I
needed, and those are the.
That's the one question that Ijust answered and said you know,
I've been through many changesand I didn't like some of them
and it turned out to be thebetter thing for me.
You know, some people right nowmight relate to they lost a job
(23:00):
only to find, um, a hundredpercent autonomy as a business
owner, cause it forced them thatway you know or?
you lost a job and it broughtyou to your dream job, or you
had a breakup and you're like,oh my God, how can I live
without this person?
And you find out that it wasactually a breakthrough and you
were able to find yourselfhealthier and be in a better
(23:22):
relationship oh, that's a wholenother podcast breakup or
breakthrough yeah, that is onewe might want to hold on to,
that, for later, sure will so Ithink for me, during the time of
being down for two weeks, isjust this shifting from again
the resistance to being moreresilient through these changes,
(23:45):
because it's just required ofus.
You know, like I, I want tochoose to grow through it and
just take on these changes andand be up for the challenge of
it all.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, and again, as you already stated, life is
changing drastically, um in thepolitical climate, in the actual
climate, like the, the weather.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, isn't that a trip?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's just impacting yeah everything.
The weather is going bonkersall over the country right now,
so it's, uh, just one of thosethings that we're we got to get
used to and begin tocompartmentalize in a whole
different way.
Jen, something just hit me andI gotta say it, but I want you
to give the details.
(24:34):
You're going to be on a podcastthis coming Thursday.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I am, so it's my first one, and there's more
lined up that I'm lookingforward to.
This one is on dope confidence.
That's the name of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Did you say dope, d O P E confidence Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Right, yeah, yeah.
Podcast.
Did you say dope d-o-p-econfidence?
Okay, right, yeah, yeah.
And so that was so much funbeing in the other seat not
hosting but just being the guestand I was a lot because I was
tired.
Right, it was the end of the dayand I thought, oh my goodness,
it's too late to drink coffee.
I won't do that, and just beingon this podcast with Amanda
(25:20):
just woke me the heck up and Idon't know.
I think I might have been a lotfor her to keep up with.
She did beautifully.
She's an excellent host.
I felt right at home.
But if you want to check it out, it's being released this
Thursday, which is like I don'tknow what, that, what.
That date is 20th.
That sounds about right 20th.
And again, it's the dopeconfidence hosted by Amanda and
(25:45):
um.
Check it out, let me know whatyou think.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, it's the 20th the 20th.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
It's a whole nother perspective of me.
For sure, being in that seatwas interesting.
I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'mtalking about things about me
that I don't talk about on thepodcast.
Being in the scene on take theelevator is a very humbling role
.
Um, it's very in support to theperson that I'm talking to,
including you you know,absolutely so I don't ever like,
(26:12):
oh yeah, this and this for me.
I mean I share some of mythoughts, but I don't unpack it
all here, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So that's great, and if you need a link, then we'll
be posting a link and posting.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, I'll put on my Instagram.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, Instagram, Facebook, all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yes, okay, before I forget, because this happens to
me a lot, I just wanted to makesure to share this too, as we're
clearly going into the end ofthis episode is one of the
things that came to my mind inthese last two weeks is that
there's that saying that timeheals all things, and I beg to
differ on that.
I think it's what you do withthat time that heals all things,
(26:55):
because time goes by.
As we have stated multipletimes, time is going by so
rapidly and it's not that timethat heals you, it's what you do
during that time.
So that just really laid animpression on me in such a
powerful way.
So, corey, today we worked onsome stuff for Genco really laid
(27:19):
an impression on me in such apowerful way.
So, corey, like today we workedon some stuff for Genco and
Mike, I have today to do this.
What am I going to do with thistime?
And, by the way, we're buildingthe website, so it's published.
It's not completely done, butif y'all want to check it out,
our website for genco isthegencocom.
So genco is spelled g-e-n-k-o,because duh, jen, the builder,
(27:40):
and cory together is genco.
So check it out, let us knowwhat you think.
We're starting to build ourlittle empire, trying to make
some moves and roll with thechange so that the that life
flows through us and we're notor flow to us.
I like that yeah yeah, so wewere going to say something,
(28:01):
though, about, so the podcast ison thursday and we're doing
some links and posts on uhsocial medias that's right.
Yes, and we're pushing our bookbecause and yes, I'm addressing
the ladies ladies, on mother'sday, god willing, um, the next
book for the fuzzy furry forestcomes out and it's on kelly the
(28:23):
kangaroo, and this one is gonnahit hard, I promise you.
This is all about motherhood,our relationship with our
children, who are growing up soquickly, and the concept of time
and the song that goes withthis.
Like I'm so excited about thisone, like I want to do a one day
(28:44):
or half a day retreat withwomen and their and their kids
women, you know, and I I can seeit.
I just don't have it pinned,but I think it it's gonna have
to be something to that extentyeah, this is gonna be a really
good read for moms and um.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I enjoyed writing it with you, jen.
It was one of those experienceslike, um, writing a good song
with someone, like writing agreat number one hit song with
someone and I've never done that, but I've written some good
songs and this was that samefeeling like, oh, we really hit
(29:26):
the sweet spot with this one.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I'm all in agreement on that one.
Even to this day, when I readthe book and I play the song
after I cry, it's like thattouching.
But you know I'm a sentimentalschmuck.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You're a funny one too.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I don't think there's any new announcements, Corey.
The band's next gig is March1st, so more to come on that.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, March 1st March 14th and then the 28th, and
we're stacking up dates left andright and it's just a blast.
Oh my goodness.
I'm so excited about what'stranspiring and going on with
the band and I'm also happy withthe books.
It's a lot to be excited about,but it's a lot of work, guys.
Um, but we welcome it and wewelcome to share all of it with
(30:23):
you so that you can understandhow either to do it or it's
being done.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, and I know the band plateaued for a minute
there and so I love seeing theelevation, you know.
And so if you all are out thereand you're waiting for the
thing to pick up to gain sometraction, well it's don't give
up.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It's exactly what you said.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's what we did with the time to heal and then
things begin to happen for youhey, well, you know's to take
the elevator.
We say look up, and let'selevate Every day, elevate Every
(31:06):
day.
Oh, happy belated hearts day,everyone, much love.
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