March 31, 2025 • 33 mins
We reflect on our personal and professional journeys through hits and misses, exploring how losses often transform into surprising victories when we maintain grit and determination.
• Career setbacks can feel devastating but often lead to unexpected opportunities
• Transitioning from a stable career to uncertainty requires tremendous mental fortitude
• Developing Essential Medical Services as entrepreneurs emerged directly from previous career losses
• Small victories like creating professional filing systems and payroll processes became meaningful milestones
• Having a "scrappy fighter" mentality helps transform defeats into future successes
• Finding joy in the process rather than just celebrating results sustains motivation
• "Make some noise" philosophy means creating your own positive momentum amid life's distractions
• Grit isn't necessarily about constant grinding but about maintaining belief in your purpose
• Removing time-wasting activities creates space for meaningful growth and achievement
• Hope serves as the fuel that keeps us moving forward with confidence that "the best is still ahead."
Check out our website at TheGenko.com to stay connected and share your own stories of transformation.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
hey, it's been a great month.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yes, it has.
I have to agree, and I'm notjust saying that because you
said it, I'm saying it becauseI'm looking over all the things
that are going on good, bad andindifferent, that are going on
good, bad and indifferent, andwe walk away with some victories
, with some wins, definitely,and what's funny is that,
concurrently, there have been alot of parts of this month that
(00:54):
haven't been so great, true,that I actually wish didn't
happen, to be quite honest, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So let's talk a little bit about um, just our
weekend, if you don't mind,before we go into this wonderful
show that you've produced.
Um, one of my highlights forthe weekend?
Um, definitely definitely twothings.
I saw the shameless band WooWoo I mean, come on, um at
(01:24):
September's in Paris, and thething is for me, cory, is your
band has been together for someyears yeah and I thought for a
couple of years, if I may, therewas a bit of a plateau yep,
there was I felt like the songswere so good, but I felt like
I've heard this one quite a fewtimes.
(01:45):
You know, and I don't knowwhat's happened with the band,
but there has been like thiselevation, this switch of a
massive list of different typesof music.
You all are having so much funup there and you're taking us
back to like the 50s, um, tostuff that's current.
Now you're jumping into countryto rock, to r&b, and you're
(02:09):
making your own.
And I'm not just saying thisbecause, yes, I am cory's wife.
Hello, we're, I'm very aware ofthis, but cory will tell you I
can be his biggest critic attimes.
Oh yeah, so I I could not sitstill for the three hours.
It was so good.
I'm so amazed by the band andthe growth.
(02:30):
Yeah man.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Um, one of my biggest things this weekend was
absolutely I'm gonna say thisreal quick uh, my mother-in-law
was there and she parted my momthat's my mom as hard as
everybody else did with noalcohol whatsoever but, sober.
This woman will go and she willride.
We started at maybe fouro'clock in the afternoon after
(02:54):
you and her went to somemeetings and some right, she was
up at five in the morning.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
That morning I said my mom is gonna poop.
There is no way she's gonnalast, no man two o'clock we were
still rolling am.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So, yeah, the band has grown and we have matured
and some things, some key things, have happened and this is
gonna kind of segue into the theepisode.
So I'm excited about how I canbreak this down really quickly.
Um, we don't take inconsideration what actors,
actresses, athletes, employers,bosses, managers are going
(03:30):
through on a daily basis toallow them not to perform at
their top, peak level.
And so when you realize thatthese are hurdles that they're
dealing with in their lives andsome of those hurdles are
removed and they're able to movea little bit more free, it
takes the pressure and the loadoff of the performance.
So now you're you're working inyour element and there was a
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few things that were happeningwith the band.
So one of the band members wastransitioning from orange county
to Wrightwood through a, andthis was a slow transition that
started before Orange County, sothere was a lot of pressure on
this particular band member.
(04:14):
There was another band memberthat was dealing with his own
set of issues that were going on, and then me personally, I had
a lot on my plate.
There was a lot going on at myregular job, my nine to five.
There were things happening inthe book writing world that I
had no control over and I justneeded to figure this stuff out.
(04:37):
Not to mention, I'm trying topractice plus manage plus
acquire play dates.
So the practicing was sufferingon a on a whole another level,
and so, once those thingsstarted to subside and the play
dates came in, all of justovernight, um, I found all of
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our situations getting betterand we became a much stronger,
tighter, more rehearsed,prepared band.
So, yeah, that's what you heard.
Uh, last night and the nightbefore you weren't able to come,
but same thing, we just, wejust we're a different band now
yeah, and I hear a beautifulsummary.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's coming to my mind, but I don't want to get to
the end of the show while wehaven't really started it, so I
love what you've come up withtoday for the episode.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, um, so walk us through it so you know, today's
show is going to be about hitsand misses.
When you got a hit on yourhands, I mean and we can take
this from any point of view uh,you're hitting at work, you're
hitting in the game, you'rehitting when you're just winning
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period, and then you're talkingabout the misses or the losses,
or the L's as some people mayrefer to them.
I'm going to take this L, takea knee, because I just can't get
through this, and I just wantto focus on both sides of that,
but not diminishing one side oranother one.
It's key because sometimes weget caught up in the celebration
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so much that we forget aboutthose times when we lost, and
sometimes we're so down in thedumps and we're really hard on
ourselves that we forget aboutthe many wins we had, and so I
just really want to enjoy that.
How you feel about that, jen?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I think it's good.
So I just want to clarify hitsmeans the same as wins.
Right, right, when you hit it,you hit it big, like if I'm
going to the casino and I hit itbig, that's a win.
Oh, you hit it out the park sothat's oh yeah, that's another
good one okay indeed.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So, jane, I'm gonna start off with you.
Let's talk about and we'llstart with the latter of the two
.
Let's talk about one of thebiggest losses professionally
that you may have encountered.
That really felt like it wasgoing to set you back and make
you not who you are are todayman, that's a big question with
(07:05):
quite a long timeline to go from.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
we'll go in bits and pieces.
Yeah, well, there have beenquite a few of losses in my
career and one of them was whenI was literally making 10 000 a
month to take home.
And that was on a on10,000 amonth to take home and that was
on a slow month and I was soused to that income, I was used
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to being the go-to person in alot of the things that I was
doing there.
We had a new program and Icreated a whole standard
operating procedure on thisprogram and it was successful.
While I'm doing this, I'm alsotaking on another task and I was
driving out to Orange County tohelp some hospitals out there
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in case management stuff.
So for me, it fulfills me to bebusy, to be under pressure, to
feel a need and help.
And so when I realized thatthat career, that moment was
coming to an end and it was justa weird course of events and a
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lot of them were out of mycontrol and really coming from
people who were hating on whatwas happening for me in my
career- yeah and, looking back,I can truly say that.
So my loss was not just thecareer, but I felt like my
reputation, my heart was broken.
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I was so hurt by how all ofthat went down and, yeah, it
just came crumbling quickly.
So that was a loss on all ends.
You talk about confidence, youknow.
You just feel like dang, didthat just really happen?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I was blindsided, yeah, and I'm going to pause you
right there for a second,because there was another
element of that that happened.
That took place.
We had volunteered as youthleaders for a time and then,
once we had pretty much said,hey, it's not that we don't like
what we're doing, we reallyenjoy it, but we're really about
to ramp up on some personalbusiness things, and so we're
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going to step down a little bitand they thought it was because
of money and it wasn't, but theyoffered the money and then
there was a break in yourschedule to where you actually
had time to be a part of theyouth organization.
And then that ended because wehad done that for about a year
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and a half, two years where itwas a full scale pay for being a
youth and and working with theyouth and running the sound and
all that stuff yeah, so a lot ofthe things that we had put our
hearts and soul into were justcoming to an abrupt stop.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, so yeah, that was a big loss huge.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, so you know, when you're talking about this
lost gen, what was the things onyour mind like as you're
talking about this loss Jen?
What was the things on yourmind like as you're dealing with
the loss, as you're goingthrough the moment?
I know you're heartbroken, Iknow you feel like the life is
sucked out of you, but what arethe mental issues are you
dealing with?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Oh man, I think I came pretty close to what I
would consider a breakdown.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I kind of felt like what's next Lost in the dark and
just looking at my family.
It was really depending on meto shine through, and you know I
have a play on words, so shinethrough the beep okay, so
another because that's reallywhat it was at that moment yeah,
(11:00):
and I I don't want to jumptopics here, but um, I had to
shine through, um, in theshadows of the darkness that I
felt that was creeping up.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, like I had to find thoseglimmers, I had to make sense of
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it, and I felt like myprocessing time was cut short
because everything to me at thattime felt like time is of the
essence, like if I stay in thisspace for too long, I'm going to
get in a deeper and darker lull, and I wanted to rise above
that.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Absolutely, and I'm glad you're being transparent
about that, Jen, because youwere carrying a much heavier
load than usual.
And I'm going to say this youknow you had taken on a program
at another health plan and donesomething that hadn't been done
at that point.
Can you elaborate on that, justso people can get a better
(12:05):
bird's eye view of what I'mtalking about?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yes, so during that time and I'm going to put a plug
out here for all you bossesthat have mentored people and
continue to partner with them toopen up doors of opportunities,
right, well, that's what hadhappened here one of my old
supervisors she was actually onthe podcast years ago yeah, um,
susan sanchez took me yeah,what's up, susan?
So she invited me on thisjourney and I call it an
adventure.
She's pretty much like I'm ableto hire five nurses at your
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level LVN, and I really want toprove to this health plan that
you all can do what RNs can doin the field of case management.
And she goes and they're goingto scrutinize everything that
you do.
But I think, after six months,if we could prove that this is
possible, it's going to open upother doors for LVNs, like
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you're going to put this on themap, like this is going to be
groundbreaking.
So, of course, I'm like sign meup, right?
So that happened during thistime too, and so that was still
going on, which I was reallygrateful.
I had the one thing left that Ifelt like.
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I just so dramatic, but at thetime it's, I felt at least I got
this one thing left, real thingthat gave me security as far as
income and my career and whereI was going.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, incredible.
I love how you tell this storybecause what it does is it gives
a point of view that a lot ofpeople don't get to see.
The struggle, oh yeah, the loss, the not hitting so well this
is the reference in baseball andbasketball football, when
you're not at the top of yourgame and it's not because of
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something you did personally,but it's just the set of
circumstances that are presentedagainst you in life.
So, I love this story.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And that really struck me, corey, when you said
a lot of people don't see thisstruggle.
I think what I've gotten veryaccustomed to is the people who
are close to me or really knowme, know the struggle.
And then, what may be moreoutward facing to people who are
distant and taking a peek intoour lives, like how that looks
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like, oh, she's always happy.
Like how that looks like, oh,she's always happy, oh, she's
always, you know, so positiveand on top of everything.
And how how do cory and jen dothis?
Like, oh, they, I've heard this, they're just lucky, or they,
they land on their feet.
Even when they fall, you know,they land on their feet.
Um, and I do say that we dohave great bounce back, but we
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very much honor the fallenmoments.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, you know, yeah, we, we try to celebrate in a
fallen state and not the fall,but what is to come?
And I'm going to say this withno regrets and no filter we are
fighters.
We are the scrappiest, hardestfighters that you will ever meet
, because we know what it takesto, uh, stay in this, in this
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thing called life, and so if youhave no fight left, then you're
just throwing in the towel andyou're giving up.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I like that word scrappiest?
Yeah, I really do, and so Ireally want to touch here that
in those moments, because youasked me a really great question
.
So what did I do in that?
So this is how I felt I feltdepressed, and my shining moment
in that was just getting out ofbed, right, because sometimes
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that's tough to just move whenyou're feeling that way or
knowing that, hello, thisprobably is for a good reason,
because you've left a toxicsituation right and that's the
thing about toxicity is, whenyou're in it you don't realize
it.
(16:08):
And um, I started to realize it,so that started to give me hope
and it got me plugged back intomy purpose.
I lost it along the way becauseI got caught up in the bigness.
Well before that was thebigness of everything right, but
yes, yes.
Afterwards, woe is me for sure.
And then my last thing, I think, was admitting that I need help
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.
What I mean by that is justtalking to you about what was
going on and leaning into mynetwork and trusting that what
was coming next was supposed tobe, and not get caught up with
the amount of money, what thislooks like.
You know what I mean Like, andit's a trip because everything
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that's so obvious or soimportant to you I was being
asked to.
Yeah, that's small stuff,there's something bigger here,
but you don't know quite what itis.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Right, yeah, and so I know the people are probably
wondering how did you bounceback, how did you turn this
thing around?
That's a whole other story.
How did you bounce back, howdid you turn this thing around?
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That's a whole.
I just fast-forwarded youthrough a lot of that and we're
gonna have definitely tell thatstory at some point in time yeah
, I call those transformationalvictories.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, um, that's what it was, and you just opened my,
our minds and our hearts towhat else is out there.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, so I'm gonna tell a brief win of mine yes.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
If you don't mind.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And it doesn't have anything to do with music or the
books.
It actually has to do with thebusiness that we formed out of
that darkness that came about,and that business flourished
like never before.
But it was a seasonal business,it happened for a brief season
and we enjoyed it immensely.
So, basically, what happenedwas, um, jen had transitioned
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into her current job and I wasable to see something that was
we didn't know was possible, andit was through a name.
It wasn't so much I mean when Isay it was through a name, it
was the service of the name thatwe saw through this, and so it
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actually took legs months later,after we had moved into our
last home.
I'm going to let Jen take itfrom there, because that's where
essential medical staffingbegan to grow legs, from there,
because that's where essentialmedical staffing began to grow
legs.
And, uh, and the reason why I'mletting her do it is because,
ultimately, this is her podcaststory, and so I'm just I'm
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facilitating it.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, so he sent, and I just call it essential.
I just think that's so muchpower, it's so, so essential,
just essential period yeah.
So I think we, um, yeah, somuch power, it's so, so
essential, just essential period, yeah.
So I think we, um, yeah, we didregister as essential medical
staffing, um, and then we wentto rename me as essential
services.
By the way, that facebook pageis still very much alive oh my
god still we still get hits andum dms from there.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I still get calls yeah, are you guys still I'm
like uh, yeah I don't know so westarted.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I started teaching case management and I love
teaching for those who know melike I love teaching.
I love when people get it, Ilove when there's a challenge
and got to figure out anotherway to present the material so I
can partner with the people sothey get it.
And so just seeing nurses anddoctors from other countries
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come over and go into casemanagement was so rewarding.
And it's interesting how thatwas such a huge win from what I
consider a loss, because I hadtaught case management before
and I had to leave that role fora few reasons.
But I enjoyed it so much.
(20:23):
Right, and I had the mostwonderful training and you you
were able to see like man, Icould, I could do some stuff
with this yeah right.
So the fact that those skillsand the practice because here's
what I think, cory, I thinkpeople have a lot of talent, but
you know, we've been in marchmadness I think it's the
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practice of the talent thatreally puts you over the top, if
I may say so.
Yeah, so all that practicereally came into play.
Um, cory, you and I had so muchfun.
We opened up a registry fornurse case managers throughout
LA County and we had a blast.
We were just figuring thingsout as we went along.
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Played the game and thought like, okay, give us the rules as
we're playing and we're going toprocess it quickly.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, I'm so excited I keep jumping in.
I'm sorry, that's where my wincame in.
And so a lot of people are likewell, where did your win come,
Corey?
Well, that was it.
I got a chance to be anentrepreneur for the first time.
I started the paperwork, I wasable to get it registered and
file and do all this wonderful,amazing stuff.
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And I'm just dragging Jen along, but along, because she was
like I don't know this processand I didn't really know it
either.
But I had to show someleadership in this because I
needed her to feel confident inwhat we were doing.
And I'm just going to betransparent.
Can I be transparent Please?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So you better be right, there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So Jen had already started teaching and we were
beginning to receive income fromthat.
And the bank approached usultimately and said are you guys
operating as a business?
And we were like yes.
And the branch manager was sokind and so nice and he told me
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he said you might want to dothis, you might want to dodge
your eyes and cross your t'sbecause if you don't, you may
get yourself in some trouble.
And that was enough warning forme.
And that was probably about twomonths into it.
So I I said, okay, you don'thave to tell me twice, I'm not
trying to spend time in jail andI'm not trying to have to pay
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no absorbing amount of moneyback to something that I was
trying to make money from.
And so what basically happenedwas I learned on the fly and
then I would share theinformation with Jen.
And then Jen just, my goodness,just flourished like a
sunflower in the sun.
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She was facing up and justgoing as hard and as fast as you
could, and I couldn't keep upmost of the time, and there was
even thoughts of Corey are yougoing to be all right?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
in this.
I thought you kept upbeautifully.
I tried.
I want to share this becausethis is one of my joys.
Yeah, I think it's in thedetails, that's the most
exciting stuff.
So Corey made Essential look sogood when I say that we had the
nice employee files, thecontracts, the application, just
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all the paperwork, theapplication, just all the
paperwork.
The way you dealt with thedifferent hospitals we worked
with and our employees, and Iloved it because here's the
stretch for Corey and you wereso open to the stretch.
Like I said, corey, we need towork with the nurses who are
signing on.
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First, we need to get themstrong in their resume, which I
took care of, and then you didso beautifully with them.
On the interviewing, yeah,right, and that was fun.
Yeah, and it was just thiswhole partnership.
We learned how to do payroll.
We learned how to team build,how to keep our nurses engaged,
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and I mean because you're, teambuild, how to keep our nurses
engaged, and I mean becauseyou're.
We were literally asking themthe night before the morning of
to go fill a position.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, that was needed , you know, and so you had to
have dedicated employees whowere so engaged, not just
willing but wanting to do thework yeah, and you had to have
people on standby that were ableto do this, because, again,
when you're working a registry,they don't know that they're
going to need someone until theday of sometimes.
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Sometimes they give you alittle bit of advance, and then
we got to face this hard truththat all hospitals don't
necessarily adapt to thatpersonality type as well as
another one.
So we had to do someinterchanging and some swapping
and figuring that part out aswell, and so I'm actually
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exposing myself right now,because a lot of people don't
know that side of me thatbusiness side of me and I try to
keep it that way as far aswhere I work, because I'm not
trying to do that anymore,especially for someone else.
I'm more than willing to do thatfor myself, but that's not what
I was called to do in a career.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And I love that because you said you got your
first taste for being anentrepreneur and when I say you
got addicted to that taste mygoodness.
So you said you couldn't keep upwith me.
Now I feel like I'm in thatposition, like whoa, I don't
know if I can keep up with you.
So I think, for me, justlistening to us retell this
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story, I feel like the word thatI use for this in all of this
is that transition from countingyour losses and you use these
terms so great cory for liketaking the knee or whatever it
is that you say taking the ltaking the l, we're taking the
l's and we learned that and Ithink, without those l's, man,
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even the mini victories right,because those were so important.
For I remember when we got ourfolders and it just spoke to me,
the setup with the littleprongs you know.
For me that was a mini victory.
I was like we're like legit.
Oh snap, we've got a label onthe file folder.
We're doing payroll.
Like this stuff is reallyhappening, and you're right, we
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had so much fun with it.
So I think for me, Like thisstuff is really happening and
you're right, we had so much funwith it.
So I think for me, thattransition from taking the L's
to celebrating the manyvictories and the wins is really
about grit.
I have to say it's all aboutcontinuous improvement.
Like we didn't give up.
No, To your point, we did notgive up.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And I told you this earlier and I meant it, your
point, we did not give up.
And I told you this earlier andI meant it.
You know we have to savor.
That means to just hold on toand just take it all the way in
those victories, because a lotof people try to store up their
victories for a rainy day.
And there's no need in storingup victories for a rainy day
because when the rainy day comes, you're dealing with the rain.
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So enjoy that victory.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Absolutely In that moment.
Some people might say becauseyou know we get this a lot, how
do you guys have time to do allthis?
Someone called me a workaholic.
If they only knew how muchdowntime I actually have in the
middle of all of this.
So here's my bottom line gritisn't necessarily about the
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grind.
We weren't use the word hustlebecause I think that works for
us when we've got to pushthrough right, but for me it's
about the believing piece.
Well, we're old school too.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Jane, I'm gonna let you get into that I know the
word hustle is not what it meanstoday for us in the in the
early 70s, when when the coachsaid hustle, he meant move it,
get it moving go go.
Yes, it wasn't hustling in theway of a side gig or doing
something, or like coming closeto breaking down.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Right, right, right.
I just knew and I say thistoday Genco is not done yet.
No, I think we haven't startedyet.
I'm so excited, like in two tothree years, we're going to get
to look back at Genco, like wejust talked about the Shameless
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Band, and be able to see thegrowth.
You know what I mean.
And so for those who don't knowand be able to ask us about
this sorry about that lostconnection for a second is um,
what was he going to say?
Oh, um, how do you get throughthis?
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Oh, what, what is make somenoise mean?
And we've said this before andwe'll say it again that the
world around us makes a wholelot of noise, and a genco sound
company is about making your ownnoise.
So I've had to make noisethrough obstacles that, like,
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have blocked our way yeah rightdistractions that steal our
focus yeah um man yeah we andwe've talked about failures that
have shaken at least myconfidence right in doubts that
whisper not, maybe you weren'tsupposed to do this Right and um
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, disappointments that weighdown the heart and that's why we
say make some noise.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, cause I'm just thinking about how it sounds
when you wake up in the morningand the dogs are barking, the
birds are chirping, you hear thetraffic in the distance going
by, and sometimes you hearpeople talking and guys are
walking through the neighborhoodand you hear, um, just the
ambient sounds outside and andwhatever things are happening in
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the house maybe someone'scooking, maybe someone's, you
know, putting something togetherand so all that noise is
happening and you're picking upon that, and if you're the
quietest thing, you get lost inthat.
So sometimes it's important,it's almost essential, that you
make your own noise so that itcan rise above the rest of the
(30:26):
stuff.
And that's just at home, in thepeace of the morning.
We're not talking about hightraffic time and rush hour.
It's just insane, right, right,right.
I also wanted to say one morething, jen.
Uh, because you asked people.
Uh, well, you said that peopleask and I get asked this all the
time, jen, and I don't have atv regimen, like I don't have a
(30:46):
favorite tv show, I don't knowwhat's on uh, the, the prime
time go ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I don't even know that that's a thing anymore.
Don't say primetime.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
There's gotta be as long as there's a.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
TV network.
As long as there's TV channels,okay, there's gotta be shows
that somebody's watching.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
you know, I got you.
And so we?
We just don't know, because wedon't give TV that kind of time
of our lives.
And so what that did over thecourse of three or four years
into that, it just allows somuch time for you to develop
your brain For other things.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
And I think for us, that's what achievement is right
, it's that the steady stepstowards our purpose.
And to be steady, you've got tobe grounded in things and and I
(31:47):
just I'm so excited about wherewe're going, where our friends
are going in the future, and forme, I think, despite the the
things that happened in Marchthat we wish didn't happen, that
happened in March that we wishdidn't happen, here's what it is
Bottom line is that we havehope, and what that means is
it's fuel that says the best isstill ahead.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
The best is yet to come.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So if you've listened to this episode and you've
thought to yourself man, that'simpactful, just know this you
have just the same amount oftools that we have, and that's
just have a little fight, gritand determination and be willing
to hustle a little bit.
It's great to have theseconversations with Jen and just
(32:29):
sit back and remember, reminisce, but it's even more so
energizing to think about thefuture and what's to come, and I
hope you're able to do the same, and maybe you can reminisce
about some stories and shoot usan email, shoot us a.
We do have a website now so youcan stay in contact with us
that way, jen.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah we haven't put a plug in because it's a work in
progress, but hey, it is what itis.
So the website's calledTheGenko T-H-E-G-E-N-K-Ocom.
Yeah, Check us out there, Corey.
This was such a beautifulepisode.
I really appreciate the recalland recognizing all parts of the
(33:12):
journey.
Like that's so important, sowell you know us to take the
elevator.
We say, look up and let'selevate.
Elevate Every day, elevateEvery day, elevate Every day,
(33:36):
elevate Every day.
hey, it's been a great month.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yes, it has.
I have to agree, and I'm notjust saying that because you
said it, I'm saying it becauseI'm looking over all the things
that are going on good, bad andindifferent, that are going on
good, bad and indifferent, andwe walk away with some victories
, with some wins, definitely,and what's funny is that,
concurrently, there have been alot of parts of this month that
(00:54):
haven't been so great, true,that I actually wish didn't
happen, to be quite honest, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So let's talk a little bit about um, just our
weekend, if you don't mind,before we go into this wonderful
show that you've produced.
Um, one of my highlights forthe weekend?
Um, definitely definitely twothings.
I saw the shameless band WooWoo I mean, come on, um at
(01:24):
September's in Paris, and thething is for me, cory, is your
band has been together for someyears yeah and I thought for a
couple of years, if I may, therewas a bit of a plateau yep,
there was I felt like the songswere so good, but I felt like
I've heard this one quite a fewtimes.
(01:45):
You know, and I don't knowwhat's happened with the band,
but there has been like thiselevation, this switch of a
massive list of different typesof music.
You all are having so much funup there and you're taking us
back to like the 50s, um, tostuff that's current.
Now you're jumping into countryto rock, to r&b, and you're
(02:09):
making your own.
And I'm not just saying thisbecause, yes, I am cory's wife.
Hello, we're, I'm very aware ofthis, but cory will tell you I
can be his biggest critic attimes.
Oh yeah, so I I could not sitstill for the three hours.
It was so good.
I'm so amazed by the band andthe growth.
(02:30):
Yeah man.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Um, one of my biggest things this weekend was
absolutely I'm gonna say thisreal quick uh, my mother-in-law
was there and she parted my momthat's my mom as hard as
everybody else did with noalcohol whatsoever but, sober.
This woman will go and she willride.
We started at maybe fouro'clock in the afternoon after
(02:54):
you and her went to somemeetings and some right, she was
up at five in the morning.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
That morning I said my mom is gonna poop.
There is no way she's gonnalast, no man two o'clock we were
still rolling am.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So, yeah, the band has grown and we have matured
and some things, some key things, have happened and this is
gonna kind of segue into the theepisode.
So I'm excited about how I canbreak this down really quickly.
Um, we don't take inconsideration what actors,
actresses, athletes, employers,bosses, managers are going
(03:30):
through on a daily basis toallow them not to perform at
their top, peak level.
And so when you realize thatthese are hurdles that they're
dealing with in their lives andsome of those hurdles are
removed and they're able to movea little bit more free, it
takes the pressure and the loadoff of the performance.
So now you're you're working inyour element and there was a
(03:54):
few things that were happeningwith the band.
So one of the band members wastransitioning from orange county
to Wrightwood through a, andthis was a slow transition that
started before Orange County, sothere was a lot of pressure on
this particular band member.
(04:14):
There was another band memberthat was dealing with his own
set of issues that were going on, and then me personally, I had
a lot on my plate.
There was a lot going on at myregular job, my nine to five.
There were things happening inthe book writing world that I
had no control over and I justneeded to figure this stuff out.
(04:37):
Not to mention, I'm trying topractice plus manage plus
acquire play dates.
So the practicing was sufferingon a on a whole another level,
and so, once those thingsstarted to subside and the play
dates came in, all of justovernight, um, I found all of
(04:59):
our situations getting betterand we became a much stronger,
tighter, more rehearsed,prepared band.
So, yeah, that's what you heard.
Uh, last night and the nightbefore you weren't able to come,
but same thing, we just, wejust we're a different band now
yeah, and I hear a beautifulsummary.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's coming to my mind, but I don't want to get to
the end of the show while wehaven't really started it, so I
love what you've come up withtoday for the episode.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, um, so walk us through it so you know, today's
show is going to be about hitsand misses.
When you got a hit on yourhands, I mean and we can take
this from any point of view uh,you're hitting at work, you're
hitting in the game, you'rehitting when you're just winning
(05:48):
period, and then you're talkingabout the misses or the losses,
or the L's as some people mayrefer to them.
I'm going to take this L, takea knee, because I just can't get
through this, and I just wantto focus on both sides of that,
but not diminishing one side oranother one.
It's key because sometimes weget caught up in the celebration
(06:11):
so much that we forget aboutthose times when we lost, and
sometimes we're so down in thedumps and we're really hard on
ourselves that we forget aboutthe many wins we had, and so I
just really want to enjoy that.
How you feel about that, jen?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I think it's good.
So I just want to clarify hitsmeans the same as wins.
Right, right, when you hit it,you hit it big, like if I'm
going to the casino and I hit itbig, that's a win.
Oh, you hit it out the park sothat's oh yeah, that's another
good one okay indeed.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So, jane, I'm gonna start off with you.
Let's talk about and we'llstart with the latter of the two
.
Let's talk about one of thebiggest losses professionally
that you may have encountered.
That really felt like it wasgoing to set you back and make
you not who you are are todayman, that's a big question with
(07:05):
quite a long timeline to go from.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
we'll go in bits and pieces.
Yeah, well, there have beenquite a few of losses in my
career and one of them was whenI was literally making 10 000 a
month to take home.
And that was on a on10,000 amonth to take home and that was
on a slow month and I was soused to that income, I was used
(07:35):
to being the go-to person in alot of the things that I was
doing there.
We had a new program and Icreated a whole standard
operating procedure on thisprogram and it was successful.
While I'm doing this, I'm alsotaking on another task and I was
driving out to Orange County tohelp some hospitals out there
(07:57):
in case management stuff.
So for me, it fulfills me to bebusy, to be under pressure, to
feel a need and help.
And so when I realized thatthat career, that moment was
coming to an end and it was justa weird course of events and a
(08:21):
lot of them were out of mycontrol and really coming from
people who were hating on whatwas happening for me in my
career- yeah and, looking back,I can truly say that.
So my loss was not just thecareer, but I felt like my
reputation, my heart was broken.
(08:43):
I was so hurt by how all ofthat went down and, yeah, it
just came crumbling quickly.
So that was a loss on all ends.
You talk about confidence, youknow.
You just feel like dang, didthat just really happen?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I was blindsided, yeah, and I'm going to pause you
right there for a second,because there was another
element of that that happened.
That took place.
We had volunteered as youthleaders for a time and then,
once we had pretty much said,hey, it's not that we don't like
what we're doing, we reallyenjoy it, but we're really about
to ramp up on some personalbusiness things, and so we're
(09:27):
going to step down a little bitand they thought it was because
of money and it wasn't, but theyoffered the money and then
there was a break in yourschedule to where you actually
had time to be a part of theyouth organization.
And then that ended because wehad done that for about a year
(09:48):
and a half, two years where itwas a full scale pay for being a
youth and and working with theyouth and running the sound and
all that stuff yeah, so a lot ofthe things that we had put our
hearts and soul into were justcoming to an abrupt stop.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, so yeah, that was a big loss huge.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, so you know, when you're talking about this
lost gen, what was the things onyour mind like as you're
talking about this loss Jen?
What was the things on yourmind like as you're dealing with
the loss, as you're goingthrough the moment?
I know you're heartbroken, Iknow you feel like the life is
sucked out of you, but what arethe mental issues are you
dealing with?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Oh man, I think I came pretty close to what I
would consider a breakdown.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I kind of felt like what's next Lost in the dark and
just looking at my family.
It was really depending on meto shine through, and you know I
have a play on words, so shinethrough the beep okay, so
another because that's reallywhat it was at that moment yeah,
(11:00):
and I I don't want to jumptopics here, but um, I had to
shine through, um, in theshadows of the darkness that I
felt that was creeping up.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, like I had to find thoseglimmers, I had to make sense of
(11:22):
it, and I felt like myprocessing time was cut short
because everything to me at thattime felt like time is of the
essence, like if I stay in thisspace for too long, I'm going to
get in a deeper and darker lull, and I wanted to rise above
that.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Absolutely, and I'm glad you're being transparent
about that, Jen, because youwere carrying a much heavier
load than usual.
And I'm going to say this youknow you had taken on a program
at another health plan and donesomething that hadn't been done
at that point.
Can you elaborate on that, justso people can get a better
(12:05):
bird's eye view of what I'mtalking about?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yes, so during that time and I'm going to put a plug
out here for all you bossesthat have mentored people and
continue to partner with them toopen up doors of opportunities,
right, well, that's what hadhappened here one of my old
supervisors she was actually onthe podcast years ago yeah, um,
susan sanchez took me yeah,what's up, susan?
So she invited me on thisjourney and I call it an
adventure.
She's pretty much like I'm ableto hire five nurses at your
(12:40):
level LVN, and I really want toprove to this health plan that
you all can do what RNs can doin the field of case management.
And she goes and they're goingto scrutinize everything that
you do.
But I think, after six months,if we could prove that this is
possible, it's going to open upother doors for LVNs, like
(13:04):
you're going to put this on themap, like this is going to be
groundbreaking.
So, of course, I'm like sign meup, right?
So that happened during thistime too, and so that was still
going on, which I was reallygrateful.
I had the one thing left that Ifelt like.
(13:25):
I just so dramatic, but at thetime it's, I felt at least I got
this one thing left, real thingthat gave me security as far as
income and my career and whereI was going.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, incredible.
I love how you tell this storybecause what it does is it gives
a point of view that a lot ofpeople don't get to see.
The struggle, oh yeah, the loss, the not hitting so well this
is the reference in baseball andbasketball football, when
you're not at the top of yourgame and it's not because of
(14:01):
something you did personally,but it's just the set of
circumstances that are presentedagainst you in life.
So, I love this story.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And that really struck me, corey, when you said
a lot of people don't see thisstruggle.
I think what I've gotten veryaccustomed to is the people who
are close to me or really knowme, know the struggle.
And then, what may be moreoutward facing to people who are
distant and taking a peek intoour lives, like how that looks
(14:31):
like, oh, she's always happy.
Like how that looks like, oh,she's always happy, oh, she's
always, you know, so positiveand on top of everything.
And how how do cory and jen dothis?
Like, oh, they, I've heard this, they're just lucky, or they,
they land on their feet.
Even when they fall, you know,they land on their feet.
Um, and I do say that we dohave great bounce back, but we
(14:56):
very much honor the fallenmoments.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, you know, yeah, we, we try to celebrate in a
fallen state and not the fall,but what is to come?
And I'm going to say this withno regrets and no filter we are
fighters.
We are the scrappiest, hardestfighters that you will ever meet
, because we know what it takesto, uh, stay in this, in this
(15:21):
thing called life, and so if youhave no fight left, then you're
just throwing in the towel andyou're giving up.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I like that word scrappiest?
Yeah, I really do, and so Ireally want to touch here that
in those moments, because youasked me a really great question
.
So what did I do in that?
So this is how I felt I feltdepressed, and my shining moment
in that was just getting out ofbed, right, because sometimes
(15:47):
that's tough to just move whenyou're feeling that way or
knowing that, hello, thisprobably is for a good reason,
because you've left a toxicsituation right and that's the
thing about toxicity is, whenyou're in it you don't realize
it.
(16:08):
And um, I started to realize it,so that started to give me hope
and it got me plugged back intomy purpose.
I lost it along the way becauseI got caught up in the bigness.
Well before that was thebigness of everything right, but
yes, yes.
Afterwards, woe is me for sure.
And then my last thing, I think, was admitting that I need help
(16:33):
.
What I mean by that is justtalking to you about what was
going on and leaning into mynetwork and trusting that what
was coming next was supposed tobe, and not get caught up with
the amount of money, what thislooks like.
You know what I mean Like, andit's a trip because everything
(16:54):
that's so obvious or soimportant to you I was being
asked to.
Yeah, that's small stuff,there's something bigger here,
but you don't know quite what itis.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Right, yeah, and so I know the people are probably
wondering how did you bounceback, how did you turn this
thing around?
That's a whole other story.
How did you bounce back, howdid you turn this thing around?
(17:37):
That's a whole.
I just fast-forwarded youthrough a lot of that and we're
gonna have definitely tell thatstory at some point in time yeah
, I call those transformationalvictories.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, um, that's what it was, and you just opened my,
our minds and our hearts towhat else is out there.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, so I'm gonna tell a brief win of mine yes.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
If you don't mind.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And it doesn't have anything to do with music or the
books.
It actually has to do with thebusiness that we formed out of
that darkness that came about,and that business flourished
like never before.
But it was a seasonal business,it happened for a brief season
and we enjoyed it immensely.
So, basically, what happenedwas, um, jen had transitioned
(18:22):
into her current job and I wasable to see something that was
we didn't know was possible, andit was through a name.
It wasn't so much I mean when Isay it was through a name, it
was the service of the name thatwe saw through this, and so it
(18:45):
actually took legs months later,after we had moved into our
last home.
I'm going to let Jen take itfrom there, because that's where
essential medical staffingbegan to grow legs, from there,
because that's where essentialmedical staffing began to grow
legs.
And, uh, and the reason why I'mletting her do it is because,
ultimately, this is her podcaststory, and so I'm just I'm
(19:05):
facilitating it.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, so he sent, and I just call it essential.
I just think that's so muchpower, it's so, so essential,
just essential period yeah.
So I think we, um, yeah, somuch power, it's so, so
essential, just essential period, yeah.
So I think we, um, yeah, we didregister as essential medical
staffing, um, and then we wentto rename me as essential
services.
By the way, that facebook pageis still very much alive oh my
god still we still get hits andum dms from there.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I still get calls yeah, are you guys still I'm
like uh, yeah I don't know so westarted.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I started teaching case management and I love
teaching for those who know melike I love teaching.
I love when people get it, Ilove when there's a challenge
and got to figure out anotherway to present the material so I
can partner with the people sothey get it.
And so just seeing nurses anddoctors from other countries
(20:01):
come over and go into casemanagement was so rewarding.
And it's interesting how thatwas such a huge win from what I
consider a loss, because I hadtaught case management before
and I had to leave that role fora few reasons.
But I enjoyed it so much.
(20:23):
Right, and I had the mostwonderful training and you you
were able to see like man, Icould, I could do some stuff
with this yeah right.
So the fact that those skillsand the practice because here's
what I think, cory, I thinkpeople have a lot of talent, but
you know, we've been in marchmadness I think it's the
(20:44):
practice of the talent thatreally puts you over the top, if
I may say so.
Yeah, so all that practicereally came into play.
Um, cory, you and I had so muchfun.
We opened up a registry fornurse case managers throughout
LA County and we had a blast.
We were just figuring thingsout as we went along.
(21:08):
Played the game and thought like, okay, give us the rules as
we're playing and we're going toprocess it quickly.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, I'm so excited I keep jumping in.
I'm sorry, that's where my wincame in.
And so a lot of people are likewell, where did your win come,
Corey?
Well, that was it.
I got a chance to be anentrepreneur for the first time.
I started the paperwork, I wasable to get it registered and
file and do all this wonderful,amazing stuff.
(21:35):
And I'm just dragging Jen along, but along, because she was
like I don't know this processand I didn't really know it
either.
But I had to show someleadership in this because I
needed her to feel confident inwhat we were doing.
And I'm just going to betransparent.
Can I be transparent Please?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So you better be right, there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So Jen had already started teaching and we were
beginning to receive income fromthat.
And the bank approached usultimately and said are you guys
operating as a business?
And we were like yes.
And the branch manager was sokind and so nice and he told me
(22:18):
he said you might want to dothis, you might want to dodge
your eyes and cross your t'sbecause if you don't, you may
get yourself in some trouble.
And that was enough warning forme.
And that was probably about twomonths into it.
So I I said, okay, you don'thave to tell me twice, I'm not
trying to spend time in jail andI'm not trying to have to pay
(22:38):
no absorbing amount of moneyback to something that I was
trying to make money from.
And so what basically happenedwas I learned on the fly and
then I would share theinformation with Jen.
And then Jen just, my goodness,just flourished like a
sunflower in the sun.
(22:58):
She was facing up and justgoing as hard and as fast as you
could, and I couldn't keep upmost of the time, and there was
even thoughts of Corey are yougoing to be all right?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
in this.
I thought you kept upbeautifully.
I tried.
I want to share this becausethis is one of my joys.
Yeah, I think it's in thedetails, that's the most
exciting stuff.
So Corey made Essential look sogood when I say that we had the
nice employee files, thecontracts, the application, just
(23:34):
all the paperwork, theapplication, just all the
paperwork.
The way you dealt with thedifferent hospitals we worked
with and our employees, and Iloved it because here's the
stretch for Corey and you wereso open to the stretch.
Like I said, corey, we need towork with the nurses who are
signing on.
(23:54):
First, we need to get themstrong in their resume, which I
took care of, and then you didso beautifully with them.
On the interviewing, yeah,right, and that was fun.
Yeah, and it was just thiswhole partnership.
We learned how to do payroll.
We learned how to team build,how to keep our nurses engaged,
(24:15):
and I mean because you're, teambuild, how to keep our nurses
engaged, and I mean becauseyou're.
We were literally asking themthe night before the morning of
to go fill a position.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, that was needed , you know, and so you had to
have dedicated employees whowere so engaged, not just
willing but wanting to do thework yeah, and you had to have
people on standby that were ableto do this, because, again,
when you're working a registry,they don't know that they're
going to need someone until theday of sometimes.
(24:45):
Sometimes they give you alittle bit of advance, and then
we got to face this hard truththat all hospitals don't
necessarily adapt to thatpersonality type as well as
another one.
So we had to do someinterchanging and some swapping
and figuring that part out aswell, and so I'm actually
(25:05):
exposing myself right now,because a lot of people don't
know that side of me thatbusiness side of me and I try to
keep it that way as far aswhere I work, because I'm not
trying to do that anymore,especially for someone else.
I'm more than willing to do thatfor myself, but that's not what
I was called to do in a career.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And I love that because you said you got your
first taste for being anentrepreneur and when I say you
got addicted to that taste mygoodness.
So you said you couldn't keep upwith me.
Now I feel like I'm in thatposition, like whoa, I don't
know if I can keep up with you.
So I think, for me, justlistening to us retell this
(25:47):
story, I feel like the word thatI use for this in all of this
is that transition from countingyour losses and you use these
terms so great cory for liketaking the knee or whatever it
is that you say taking the ltaking the l, we're taking the
l's and we learned that and Ithink, without those l's, man,
(26:11):
even the mini victories right,because those were so important.
For I remember when we got ourfolders and it just spoke to me,
the setup with the littleprongs you know.
For me that was a mini victory.
I was like we're like legit.
Oh snap, we've got a label onthe file folder.
We're doing payroll.
Like this stuff is reallyhappening, and you're right, we
(26:34):
had so much fun with it.
So I think for me, Like thisstuff is really happening and
you're right, we had so much funwith it.
So I think for me, thattransition from taking the L's
to celebrating the manyvictories and the wins is really
about grit.
I have to say it's all aboutcontinuous improvement.
Like we didn't give up.
No, To your point, we did notgive up.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And I told you this earlier and I meant it, your
point, we did not give up.
And I told you this earlier andI meant it.
You know we have to savor.
That means to just hold on toand just take it all the way in
those victories, because a lotof people try to store up their
victories for a rainy day.
And there's no need in storingup victories for a rainy day
because when the rainy day comes, you're dealing with the rain.
(27:17):
So enjoy that victory.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Absolutely In that moment.
Some people might say becauseyou know we get this a lot, how
do you guys have time to do allthis?
Someone called me a workaholic.
If they only knew how muchdowntime I actually have in the
middle of all of this.
So here's my bottom line gritisn't necessarily about the
(27:41):
grind.
We weren't use the word hustlebecause I think that works for
us when we've got to pushthrough right, but for me it's
about the believing piece.
Well, we're old school too.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Jane, I'm gonna let you get into that I know the
word hustle is not what it meanstoday for us in the in the
early 70s, when when the coachsaid hustle, he meant move it,
get it moving go go.
Yes, it wasn't hustling in theway of a side gig or doing
something, or like coming closeto breaking down.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Right, right, right.
I just knew and I say thistoday Genco is not done yet.
No, I think we haven't startedyet.
I'm so excited, like in two tothree years, we're going to get
to look back at Genco, like wejust talked about the Shameless
(28:35):
Band, and be able to see thegrowth.
You know what I mean.
And so for those who don't knowand be able to ask us about
this sorry about that lostconnection for a second is um,
what was he going to say?
Oh, um, how do you get throughthis?
(28:55):
Oh, what, what is make somenoise mean?
And we've said this before andwe'll say it again that the
world around us makes a wholelot of noise, and a genco sound
company is about making your ownnoise.
So I've had to make noisethrough obstacles that, like,
(29:17):
have blocked our way yeah rightdistractions that steal our
focus yeah um man yeah we andwe've talked about failures that
have shaken at least myconfidence right in doubts that
whisper not, maybe you weren'tsupposed to do this Right and um
(29:39):
, disappointments that weighdown the heart and that's why we
say make some noise.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, cause I'm just thinking about how it sounds
when you wake up in the morningand the dogs are barking, the
birds are chirping, you hear thetraffic in the distance going
by, and sometimes you hearpeople talking and guys are
walking through the neighborhoodand you hear, um, just the
ambient sounds outside and andwhatever things are happening in
(30:05):
the house maybe someone'scooking, maybe someone's, you
know, putting something togetherand so all that noise is
happening and you're picking upon that, and if you're the
quietest thing, you get lost inthat.
So sometimes it's important,it's almost essential, that you
make your own noise so that itcan rise above the rest of the
(30:26):
stuff.
And that's just at home, in thepeace of the morning.
We're not talking about hightraffic time and rush hour.
It's just insane, right, right,right.
I also wanted to say one morething, jen.
Uh, because you asked people.
Uh, well, you said that peopleask and I get asked this all the
time, jen, and I don't have atv regimen, like I don't have a
(30:46):
favorite tv show, I don't knowwhat's on uh, the, the prime
time go ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I don't even know that that's a thing anymore.
Don't say primetime.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
There's gotta be as long as there's a.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
TV network.
As long as there's TV channels,okay, there's gotta be shows
that somebody's watching.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
you know, I got you.
And so we?
We just don't know, because wedon't give TV that kind of time
of our lives.
And so what that did over thecourse of three or four years
into that, it just allows somuch time for you to develop
your brain For other things.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
And I think for us, that's what achievement is right
, it's that the steady stepstowards our purpose.
And to be steady, you've got tobe grounded in things and and I
(31:47):
just I'm so excited about wherewe're going, where our friends
are going in the future, and forme, I think, despite the the
things that happened in Marchthat we wish didn't happen, that
happened in March that we wishdidn't happen, here's what it is
Bottom line is that we havehope, and what that means is
it's fuel that says the best isstill ahead.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
The best is yet to come.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So if you've listened to this episode and you've
thought to yourself man, that'simpactful, just know this you
have just the same amount oftools that we have, and that's
just have a little fight, gritand determination and be willing
to hustle a little bit.
It's great to have theseconversations with Jen and just
(32:29):
sit back and remember, reminisce, but it's even more so
energizing to think about thefuture and what's to come, and I
hope you're able to do the same, and maybe you can reminisce
about some stories and shoot usan email, shoot us a.
We do have a website now so youcan stay in contact with us
that way, jen.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah we haven't put a plug in because it's a work in
progress, but hey, it is what itis.
So the website's calledTheGenko T-H-E-G-E-N-K-Ocom.
Yeah, Check us out there, Corey.
This was such a beautifulepisode.
I really appreciate the recalland recognizing all parts of the
(33:12):
journey.
Like that's so important, sowell you know us to take the
elevator.
We say, look up and let'selevate.
Elevate Every day, elevateEvery day, elevate Every day,
(33:36):
elevate Every day.
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