March 17, 2025 • 27 mins
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Scott and Jenn dive into their thrilling adventure of filming an episode of House Hunters! They chat about what they were looking for in a home—spoiler alert: it’s all about that podcasting space! We get the scoop on their quest through Memphis, checking out stunning historic homes, modern builds, and everything in between. They share some behind-the-scenes fun, like being mic'd up and the hilarity that ensued when the sound guy caught every little thing. It’s a mix of laughs, real estate insights, and a dash of history that’ll keep you entertained and maybe even inspire your own house hunt!
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(00:42):
Every couple has a thing thatthey're looking for, that they're
looking for in each house.
And for us, it was apodcasting space.
Beautiful, historic home.
It's probably a hundred plusyears old.
Memphis was founded by Andrew Jackson.
He decided to name it after acity on the Nile in Egypt.
If you have watched the moviethe Firm, that's where Tom Cruise
has his house.
(01:02):
In the movie the Firm, youdon't realize that, like, you're
always miked up.
So the sound guy could alwayshear us.
Like, if I burped or if I didsaid something and I could see him
give a thumbs up, like he waslistening to everything I.
I will say filming for HouseHunters was kind of a dream come
true.
Like, we actually made it.
(01:27):
Welcome to Talk with History.
I am your host, Scott, herewith my wife and historian, Jen.
Hello.
On this podcast, we give youinsights to our history Inspired
World Travels YouTube channelJourney and examine history through
deeper conversations with thecurious, the explorers and the history
lovers out there.
Now, Jen, before we get intothe obvious topic, and that is our
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journey through filming aHouse Hunters episode, I want to
give a quick shout out toStephanie Barnes, who left us a tip,
actually a donationover@talkwithhistory.com so I think
I actually went to school withStephanie, if memory serves, and
she actually left a comment.
She said, I spend lots of timein the car with my kids and we all
love listening.
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Put a little smiley face there.
So I really appreciate it.
Stephanie, thank you so muchfor leaving the donation.
We really love hearing fromour listeners for things like that.
And if you want to kind ofdrop us a tip, buy us a coffee, you
can go to talkwithstory.comThere's a support link.
It can be $2, it can be $1,whatever it is.
But we really do appreciate it.
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Yeah.
Thank you.
Okay, so obvious topic of theday is something a little bit different.
And that is our episode ofHouse Hunters.
This is the classic.
Everybody asks, like, is thisthe one they overhaul your house?
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No, this is the classic onethat's been on for probably 20 years.
You look at three houses, youpick a house, and they film the whole
thing.
Yes.
So we had the opportunity, aswe were moving from Navy, was moving
from Norfolk to Memphis tofilm this episode.
And the story I like to tell,to kind of kick it off is we're sitting
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at home in Norfolk and Jensays to me, watching TV in the evening.
And Jen says to me, I thinkI'm going to apply to be on House
Hunters.
And I Just said, yeah, whatever.
I was like, I didn't think ina million years.
Right.
And then the next day she getsa phone call, and the day after that,
we're on a zoom call with afield producer, and then it's just
off to the races.
Yes.
So that's exactly how it happened.
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And I just.
I loved watching House Hunters.
I still watch it now.
It's fun to see the differentparts of America and what a home
looks like in those areas andthe different kind of unique styles
to the different parts of the States.
But it also House HuntersInternational, where you can see
what houses look like internationally.
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So I just thought it would befun to show what houses would look
like in Memphis.
And we were coming out here anyway.
We were going to look for a house.
We're buying a house.
We hadn't bought a house in awhile, so it kind of all lined up
well.
And I thought if this was.
If there was a time to do it,this was the time to do it.
And it just worked out reallywell that it all fit together and
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it allowed us to talk aboutthe podcast on there, because we
were looking for podcasting space.
And this is the podcasting space.
Yeah, that was kind of likethe thing.
Every couple has a thing thatthey're looking for, that they're
looking for in each house.
And for us, it was apodcasting space.
We couldn't use the name ofthe podcast, but we got to talk about
the history podcast.
And so to keep this tied tohistory and to avoid talking about,
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you know, things that, youknow, we're not allowed to talk about
technically.
Yeah, we're going to talkabout each of the homes that you
see.
And if you want to look it up yourself.
Right.
You can jot this down and I'llkind of put some text up on the screen.
But it is season 257.
Yes.
Episode six.
Six staying put in Memphis.
Staying Put in Memphis.
If you want to look it up andyou have streaming services and you
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can, you know, go dvr it.
Stephen Season 257, episode 6and it's staying put in Memphis.
So we're going to kind of talkabout each of the houses that we
looked at and actually some ofthe history, because it was in different
parts of Memphis.
And so there is a little bitof history in each of these spots
because the very first housewe found was this beautiful, beautiful,
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historic home.
It's probably a hundred plusyears old in an actual, like, very
historic part of Memphis.
Memphis called Central Gardens.
Yes.
And just know that Memphis isvery historic within itself.
Memphis was founded by Andrew Jackson.
He had.
He was from this area, and hehad seen the bluff, the flat bluff
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along the Mississippi.
And because they were going toincorporate it into a city, he decided
to name it after a city on theNile in Egypt.
So Memphis gets its name fromMemphis in Egypt.
And so there's a lot ofhistory here, just in the Memphis
area.
And we had lived here before,so we knew some of the neighborhoods
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around here, and we know wherethe base is and for Scott's commute.
So at first we look at CentralGardens, and it's very much in the
name, central to Memphis.
It's.
It's by midtown.
And if you have watched themovie the Firm, that's where Tom
Cruise has his house in themovie the Firm.
And it's one of these olderneighborhoods of Memphis.
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And the house we looked at wasa hundred years old and had seen
so much history there.
It just had been around for so long.
So it was amazing to get towalk through this home and.
And really look at it and havethis opportunity that we could own
a piece of this.
Yeah.
And even on the show, they.
They showed kind of up frontin the front door.
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It has like, a little, like,historic district building badge.
Right.
I mean, it's.
It was just the.
You know, and I'll be honest,they spent a little bit more time
on this home, and it stilldidn't quite do it justice because
it was.
It was stunning inside.
It was very old, a little bitchoppy, but it was stunning.
And we were actually pretty surprised.
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Yeah.
I mean, the detail and thecraftsmanship was just amazing.
So Central Gardens was builtprimary between 1850 and 1930 for
the wealthy middle class ofMemphis, basically, those.
Those cotton boomers,basically cotton farmers and things
like that.
And it was really like a nice area.
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And people had larger homesand farms out there.
It was more farmy as well.
It's been now moreincorporated to homes.
And you could tell from thearchitecture that these rooms had
just the fine detailing in the woodwork.
And they had these pocketdoors that you just don't see everywhere.
It had the stained glass.
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It had a beautiful kitchen.
And we just.
We just fell in love with that house.
It was.
It was a little more than wewanted to spend.
And when you get upstairs, youcan see how the rooms would have
been difficult.
We have three children, and wewant to keep it fair.
Plus we have to worry about aprimary bedroom for us and podcasting
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space.
Yeah, it didn't have, like, the.
The Master bath, master bedroom.
That's one of the things Ithink this is fine to talk about.
One of the things they ask youon the show is, is not to say master
bedroom.
Yes.
They ask you to say primary.
Yes.
And that's because I guess themaster bedroom has just been used
for so many years, they just,they change it.
So that was kind of aninteresting thing.
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But with that there was nobathroom dedicated to the ma.
The primary, the master master bedroom.
The only bathroom that wasattached to a room was that little
room that looked like anoffice which had the laundry in it
too.
Yeah, it was, it was veryclassically historic.
100 plus years old, smallerrooms, actually decent size even,
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even for.
By today's standards, but justkind of chopped up.
Upstairs they had a thirdfloor that Jen went up there and
started talking about, oh, wecould install a bathroom, we could
do this, we could do that.
I was like, this is, I'm notlooking for massive projects like
that.
That was one of the things.
Yeah, you could put a primarysuite up there.
But again you're on the thirdfloor then, which is a lot of stairs
and you could tell there was avery large size room.
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But that definitely was like amore than one child room and you
could tell that's what it was.
But there was no otherbathroom attached to a main bedroom
because that's not what theydid in the 1850s.
I mean you were lucky to haveindoor plumbing.
So you usually had one bathroom.
And even the second bathroomup there looks like it was probably
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not a bathroom at first.
It was probably a laundry roomand they had made it into a bathroom.
So it was one of those placesthat it would, if you wanted it to
fit your lifestyle and beusable, it was going to take some
work.
And if you do work in ahistoric home, you have to up make
sure you up keep the integrityof the home.
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And doing that works.
It's always more expensive andsometimes you have to get those things
approved as well.
Especially when you're in ahistoric district such as this.
So it's one of those thingslike the added cost of doing historic
renovations is probably likedouble a normal reserv renovation.
So it was already.
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That's the, that's the highestpriced house we looked at.
I think it was like 685.
Yeah, it was pretty high.
Now they had converted likewhat looked to be a two car garage
in the back into basicallylike a suite.
So there was a kitchen,bathroom, bedroom back there.
So kind of like a mother inlaw suite type space.
And so that would have been agreat podcasting space for us.
It would have worked very,very well.
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It would have worked well.
But if you remember, we havethree small children with a ton of
bikes and outdoor equipment.
Yeah.
We need a garage.
We need a garage.
Now.
They had a full size basementin that house I didn't show you.
And it's very.
A little more difficult toaccess because.
Was it underneath, like theside driveway area?
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No, you went in the side doorand it was down the stairs.
But very Home Alone esque.
Right.
It was like kind of like scarydown there.
And so it was one of thoselike, are you really gonna, how often
are you gonna go down there?
You don't have to go downthere for laundry or anything.
Use it for like Christmasstorage stuff.
Yeah.
But it was beautiful.
And was there any other kindof history in the area that you wanted
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to.
No, just like, just know thatCentral Gardens is like that.
That's where the originalmayor lived.
That's where the USRepresentatives for Memphis have
lived there.
The governor's wife.
Right.
Now our governor, his wife isfrom there.
It's just such a historic partof Memphis.
If you were going to say Ilive in the historic area of Memphis,
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the first place people aregoing to think of is Central Garden.
Yeah.
So it, it was, it was pretty cool.
Now the next house that we, welooked at was out in Arlington.
So Arlington, if you're notfamiliar with the greater Memphis
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area.
Right.
Picture Tennessee in your head.
Memphis is in that bottom left corner.
Right.
Arlington is kind of northwestof, of Memphis or sorry, northeast.
And it's actually closer tothe base where I work for the Navy.
So that was kind of the bigdraw there.
If we lived there.
And I know many, many peoplethat live there.
I work with a lot of, youknow, fellow officers and enlisted
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folks who live in the greaterArlington area.
That would have been a muchshorter commute because from downtown
Memphis or the third home,it's about a 40 minute drive out
to the base.
So this was Arlington.
It was a newer build home, wasprobably four or five years old.
Yeah.
You know, maybe.
But everything's brandspanking new now.
A lot smaller.
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A lot smaller.
I think we were going to buyfrom original owner.
Yeah.
And so that wasn't a lot ofstory there, which I didn't care
for.
And you could tell it really was.
It looked like only two peoplereally lived there and they had like
maybe their grandkids come and stay.
Yeah.
But it was so it had all likethe outlets that you want and had
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all the modern wiring and allthat nice stuff.
And that part of me was justlike, ah, it would be so nice to
buy new.
Yes, I mean, that's true.
So when you think of Memphis,Memphis is about 600,000 people.
And so that's Central Gardens.
It's the second most popularpopulous city in Tennessee beside
Nashville.
Arlington is only about 15,000 people.
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So it's, it's older.
It got its name in 1900.
It was first incorporated in 1878.
It's named for ArlingtonNational Cemetery.
So it gets its name from that.
That's cool.
But it's, it's just not, it's.
It.
You wouldn't have all theamenities as far as shopping and
stuff.
It's not as built up.
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It's not as built up.
But you are close to the baseand you have a bunch of families
there who are also base people.
So that's kind of easy for thekids to kind of find friends quickly
because everyone's doing that.
And some people like that areabecause it's not built up.
You can, you can get a newerhouse with a little bit more land
out, out in that, that part ofthe, the greater Memphis area.
Yeah.
And the house, I mean, thebathroom would be my dream bathroom.
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Yeah.
It was beautiful.
It was beautiful.
Like if I was going to build abathroom, that's exactly how I wanted
it to look.
Now we didn't show you thecloset attached to that.
That was smaller.
And they don't really show youthe garages.
That was a two car garage, butit also seemed smaller.
And like I said, we have tonsof stuff with kids so we really need
a three car garage.
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If.
And this is, even has a garagewith the other place.
Didn't.
The, the thing that I reallylove though is it had no mature trees.
Yeah.
This is what you see in theCentral Gardens house is the squirrels.
And since we had lived herebefore, I've had to deal with squirrels
in your attic.
And once they get in yourattic, it's like a, it's a nightmare
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to try to get them out.
Pest control and all that stuff.
And anytime you have treelimbs that are close to your roof
or can touch your roof, you'regoing to get squirrels.
And this had no trees.
So you know, there was goingto be no problem with that whatsoever.
It was a little tight in areas.
It was, it was, it was smaller.
So there wasn't quite as muchas what we were looking for other
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than the fact that it was newand close to the base.
Yeah.
And I didn't I don't like asink in the island.
Like, even there was space.
But the thing about having anisland for me is I want an island.
I can completely clear off ifI need to.
And with a sink in the island,you're always going to have stuff
around your sink to do dishes.
Like, there's always going tobe something there.
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And I.
It still clutters up the space.
And so I want nothing in my island.
I don't want, like I said inthe show, I don't want burners in
the island.
I don't want a stove top inthe island.
I don't want a sink in the island.
I just want a plain island.
So that had that against it as well.
I will say I love the detailsof, like, the lantern lighting and
you see me talk about that andof course, the granite countertops.
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Now to kind of step back andtalk a little bit more about what
being on the show is like,because I'm sure you're curious.
I mean, this was a full weekof filming, right?
And this is pretty obviousbecause you're wearing different
outfits for different days andstuff like that.
And so each house that wevisited was a full day of filming,
right?
Again, relatively obviousbecause we're wearing different clothes
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each day.
We're.
We're filming for eight hours, right?
We had a great crew withproducer and videographers and sound
guy and production assistant.
And they were just so muchfun, actually, to be with.
I was pleasantly surprised.
And we learned a lot.
We learned a lot just kind offrom how they did things in kind
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of how they worked each siteeach day and what they kind of had
to do to prep everything andto make sure it looks good and stuff
like that.
So for me, from a productionperspective, I was kind of trying
to learn as much as I could,but it was really, really interesting.
And then for the first day,what they call, like the slice of
life, right?
We got to drive up and film atour friend's house, Chris and Naomi,
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who we've known here fromMemphis before.
So they were excited becausethey got to, to be on the show and,
and their house was actuallywhat we used to do the sit down interview
in the, in the very beginning.
So that's a little bit moreabout what it's like to be on House
Hunters.
We were, we filmed for five days.
Five days, eight hours stay.
And always think, like, we'rewearing mics.
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Like, they put mics on us,they're underneath our shirts, they're
taped down.
And then we have to Carry thelittle pack with us.
And so it was funny that youdon't realize that, like, you're
always mic'd up.
So even between the sceneswere mic'd up so the sound guy could
always hear us, like, if Iburped or if I did said something
and I could see him give athumbs up, like he was listening
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to everything.
So you have to be aware.
So it was super interesting.
And when you think about it,right, just from watching it, like,
oh, yeah, that kind of makessense that they would be wearing
mics.
But you don't.
Right.
You don't necessarily thinkabout it because the show's been
on for so long.
You just kind of watch andyou're looking at the houses.
So that.
That was.
Was pretty interesting.
They were great, too.
I will say.
We had a fantastic crew.
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By the last day, I had boughteveryone gifts.
Like, we got to know eachother very well.
They.
They rode bikes with our kids.
Like, they were just afantastic crew.
It felt almost the close.
Like family.
They were really great.
It was.
It was a good group of people.
So now we'll move on from theArlington new build.
Right.
So the first home was thehistoric home.
The second one was the new build.
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And the third one ended upbeing, you know, I'll call it the
Goldilocks.
But this was one in Collierville.
And spoiler alert, this iswhere we actually ended up.
So Collierville, we were looking.
Already had kind of beenlooking in this neighborhood, but
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this was probably the largesthome that we looked at.
So we.
The last time we were here, wehad lived in Germantown.
We didn't look in that area.
And it's kind of like Memphis,Germantown, Collierville.
So this is one more townfurther out or suburb further east
than Memphis.
And we make our decision inthat Collierville square.
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And I had recommended thatbecause it had won, like most cute
town square or most Americanatown Square in 2014.
And you kind of see when wewalk around it, it is a very cute
square.
And Collierville's historic.
50,000 people live there, butit's the second oldest town in Shelby
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County.
And there's two battles fromthe Civil War that take place in
Collierville.
And one of them is Sherman is here.
And the reason why it's soimportant is that railroad line runs
right through Collierville.
And they're.
The Union protected it fromthe Confederacy taking it.
And those two battles are theConfederacy tries to take the railroad
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line there at Collierville twice.
And twice they're rebuffed bythe Union.
The first time is with GeneralSherman, and so they even have his
name there.
And if you looked at GeneralSherman's list of battles, Collierville
is listed on there.
So it's kind of neat, itsplace in American history and its
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place in the history of thecounty being one of these older towns.
And when we looked at thehouse here, it just felt like this
one was ticking all the boxesfor both of us.
It was historic enough, butnew enough.
It had all the space weneeded, and it was still an okay
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drive for Scott.
It was just.
It.
It met both of the things wewere looking for.
But this house required themost work.
Yeah, this one, we actually.
We did a fair amount of workto it once we finally got, you.
Know, once we bought it.
Yeah, once we bought it, we.
We ended up kind of opening upa wall downstairs between the kitchen
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and living room to really kindof open up.
Right.
A little more modern, open,open concept type feel, which actually
made it feel a lot bigger inthat area.
I mean, we live down therewhen we're not up here podcasting,
but, you know, it has grandcolumns out front, and I'll put some
pictures up on the video justto kind of show a little bit.
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I don't know if I can putlarge clips of the actual TV show
itself, because it's hgtv, soit's theirs.
Right.
But it ticked all the boxes.
It was an area we had alreadybeen considering because we had been
in Germantown relativelyclose, so we were actually close
to some of our old friends.
And so that was another bigdriver for us.
We had to replace all thecarpet in the entire house, every
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bit of carpet, because theother carpet, you couldn't even live
with it.
It was so dirty and worn down.
And in the boy's bathroom,half of the bathroom was carpeted
and the other half was tiled,so we had to retile the whole thing.
And because I tried to matchthe tile in there, but that tile
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was 30 years old and theycouldn't find it anymore.
So we retired the whole bathro.
And then you'll see inMadison's bedroom was popcorn ceilings.
No other ceilings have popcornexcept for that ceiling.
So we had to scrape her ceiling.
And then we ended up painting everywhere.
So besides taking down thewall, we repainted the kitchen and
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repainted our master, ourprimary bedroom.
We repainted the kids room.
We touched it up a little bit.
And Madison's room we replaced.
We painted three walls.
Yeah, we.
We.
Jen.
Jen got out here and like, did a.
A.
A fair amount we had some helpfrom our.
Some from our friends.
So thank you to.
To all of them who.
Who helped us when we werepainting and moving in and we were
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moving chandeliers aroundbecause we got a friend who used
to be electrician for, youknow, a nuke electrician.
So he was great.
So.
And it was like we.
I used historic paint colors,so I used paint colors that were
inspired by colonial Williamsburg.
Yeah.
So the kitchen is Yorktowngray and that.
The Yorktown Revolutionary War.
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The Battle of Yorktown.
And then our downstairsbathroom, our half bath was like
the last thing, even though Iripped off the wallpaper right away,
which they don't really showit on the.
On the show.
It was like this bright red berries.
Yeah.
Wallpaper.
I couldn't stand it.
It was like maybe feel the psychedelic.
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So I ripped that off the wallfirst thing.
And we lived with bare wallsin there for 10 months until I painted
it.
Yeah.
And I finally painted itagain, a Yorktown color, Washington
blue.
But then I hung wallpaper ofthe mural of Washington crossing.
So.
So you're.
When you're.
When you're sitting down,you're sitting there basically in
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the boat with Washington onthe Washington crossing.
I mean, it's.
It's a huge mural.
You know, it's like 6ft by 6ft tall.
Yeah, I think it's 6ft tall by10ft by 10ft.
So it wraps around, you know,2/3 of the room.
So very much a historian'sdownstairs half bath.
And if, you know, Hamilton, wehave a sign in there that says in
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the room where it happens.
So it's kind of funny with thebathroom, but just know that when.
If you want.
When you watch the show, therewas a beautiful brown desk where
we had taken out the wall.
We were able to save that desk.
And we repurposed it.
We repurposed it.
We gave the bottom half to ourson, who wanted a desk so bad, and
he got his first desk.
And then we flipped the hutchpart and we're using it as a bar.
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Yeah.
Because it's so sturdy andwell made.
So we've been able to kind ofrepurpose things in the house, but
it's just taken a lot to.
To recarpet an entire house,to paint a lot of this house, to
take out a wall.
It just.
It's the kind of work thatit's just on the cusp of what you
can do if you want to put inthe sweat equity.
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But with three kids and jobsand doing this, it's like it's taken
us some time to kind of getthere, but this house feels so great.
Like for our first time, thekids have their own rooms.
Yeah.
And then we have this podcast studio.
So this podcast studio, justso you know, Right.
If you're watching this, thiswas kind of like a media room.
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They actually, I still haven'ttaken it out, but they had like an
overhead projector and like awhole little AV space if you could.
If you can't see it.
But back behind over here, ifwe zoomed out, you'd be able to see
it.
And so now this is ourdedicated podcast space.
And it's been so nice for usbecause if you ever started with
us early on, we would set upand break down on our living room
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dining room table in Norfolkfor three years.
And we did that every other night.
Every other night.
Once a week, sometimes twice aweek, setting it all up, breaking
it all down, storing it away.
And we did that for three years.
And so now we finally have apodcast studio.
We're finally able to kind ofmake it smooth enough so we can make
these videos for you and makethese, you know, just so much easier
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for us, production wise andreally kind of step up our game.
Yeah.
And I will say filming forHouse Hunters was kind of a dream
come true.
Like, we actually made it.
We're buying a house.
You know, We've been married17 years.
We're buying a house.
The kids are getting their own rooms.
We're filming an episode ofHouse Hunters.
We're talking about thehistory of Memphis.
And for us, it just felt sogood to kind of do that and to be
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able to share that with all of you.
It was exciting, it was fun.
We learned a lot and we madesome friends along the way and.
And the kids had a great time.
So the whole experience wasjust fantastic.
Yeah.
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Or drop us a comment in, youknow, for the video version.
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Your support, our listenersupport, our watcher support over
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You know, subscribe to Talkwith History.
It's a great way to listen towhere you're visiting before you
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Yeah.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This has been a Walk withHistory production.
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Talk with History is createdand hosted by me, Scott Benny.
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Cooper.
Every couple has a thing thatthey're looking for, that they're
looking for in each house.
And for us, it was apodcasting space.
Beautiful, historic home.
It's probably a hundred plusyears old.
Memphis was founded by Andrew Jackson.
He decided to name it after acity on the Nile in Egypt.
If you have watched the moviethe Firm, that's where Tom Cruise
has his house.
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In the movie the Firm, youdon't realize that, like, you're
always miked up.
So the sound guy could alwayshear us.
Like, if I burped or if I didsaid something and I could see him
give a thumbs up, like he waslistening to everything I.
I will say filming for HouseHunters was kind of a dream come
true.
Like, we actually made it.
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Welcome to Talk with History.
I am your host, Scott, herewith my wife and historian, Jen.
Hello.
On this podcast, we give youinsights to our history Inspired
World Travels YouTube channelJourney and examine history through
deeper conversations with thecurious, the explorers and the history
lovers out there.
Now, Jen, before we get intothe obvious topic, and that is our
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journey through filming aHouse Hunters episode, I want to
give a quick shout out toStephanie Barnes, who left us a tip,
actually a donationover@talkwithhistory.com so I think
I actually went to school withStephanie, if memory serves, and
she actually left a comment.
She said, I spend lots of timein the car with my kids and we all
love listening.
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Put a little smiley face there.
So I really appreciate it.
Stephanie, thank you so muchfor leaving the donation.
We really love hearing fromour listeners for things like that.
And if you want to kind ofdrop us a tip, buy us a coffee, you
can go to talkwithstory.comThere's a support link.
It can be $2, it can be $1,whatever it is.
But we really do appreciate it.
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Yeah.
Thank you.
Okay, so obvious topic of theday is something a little bit different.
And that is our episode ofHouse Hunters.
This is the classic.
Everybody asks, like, is thisthe one they overhaul your house?
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No, this is the classic onethat's been on for probably 20 years.
You look at three houses, youpick a house, and they film the whole
thing.
Yes.
So we had the opportunity, aswe were moving from Navy, was moving
from Norfolk to Memphis tofilm this episode.
And the story I like to tell,to kind of kick it off is we're sitting
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at home in Norfolk and Jensays to me, watching TV in the evening.
And Jen says to me, I thinkI'm going to apply to be on House
Hunters.
And I Just said, yeah, whatever.
I was like, I didn't think ina million years.
Right.
And then the next day she getsa phone call, and the day after that,
we're on a zoom call with afield producer, and then it's just
off to the races.
Yes.
So that's exactly how it happened.
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And I just.
I loved watching House Hunters.
I still watch it now.
It's fun to see the differentparts of America and what a home
looks like in those areas andthe different kind of unique styles
to the different parts of the States.
But it also House HuntersInternational, where you can see
what houses look like internationally.
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So I just thought it would befun to show what houses would look
like in Memphis.
And we were coming out here anyway.
We were going to look for a house.
We're buying a house.
We hadn't bought a house in awhile, so it kind of all lined up
well.
And I thought if this was.
If there was a time to do it,this was the time to do it.
And it just worked out reallywell that it all fit together and
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it allowed us to talk aboutthe podcast on there, because we
were looking for podcasting space.
And this is the podcasting space.
Yeah, that was kind of likethe thing.
Every couple has a thing thatthey're looking for, that they're
looking for in each house.
And for us, it was apodcasting space.
We couldn't use the name ofthe podcast, but we got to talk about
the history podcast.
And so to keep this tied tohistory and to avoid talking about,
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you know, things that, youknow, we're not allowed to talk about
technically.
Yeah, we're going to talkabout each of the homes that you
see.
And if you want to look it up yourself.
Right.
You can jot this down and I'llkind of put some text up on the screen.
But it is season 257.
Yes.
Episode six.
Six staying put in Memphis.
Staying Put in Memphis.
If you want to look it up andyou have streaming services and you
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can, you know, go dvr it.
Stephen Season 257, episode 6and it's staying put in Memphis.
So we're going to kind of talkabout each of the houses that we
looked at and actually some ofthe history, because it was in different
parts of Memphis.
And so there is a little bitof history in each of these spots
because the very first housewe found was this beautiful, beautiful,
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historic home.
It's probably a hundred plusyears old in an actual, like, very
historic part of Memphis.
Memphis called Central Gardens.
Yes.
And just know that Memphis isvery historic within itself.
Memphis was founded by Andrew Jackson.
He had.
He was from this area, and hehad seen the bluff, the flat bluff
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along the Mississippi.
And because they were going toincorporate it into a city, he decided
to name it after a city on theNile in Egypt.
So Memphis gets its name fromMemphis in Egypt.
And so there's a lot ofhistory here, just in the Memphis
area.
And we had lived here before,so we knew some of the neighborhoods
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around here, and we know wherethe base is and for Scott's commute.
So at first we look at CentralGardens, and it's very much in the
name, central to Memphis.
It's.
It's by midtown.
And if you have watched themovie the Firm, that's where Tom
Cruise has his house in themovie the Firm.
And it's one of these olderneighborhoods of Memphis.
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And the house we looked at wasa hundred years old and had seen
so much history there.
It just had been around for so long.
So it was amazing to get towalk through this home and.
And really look at it and havethis opportunity that we could own
a piece of this.
Yeah.
And even on the show, they.
They showed kind of up frontin the front door.
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It has like, a little, like,historic district building badge.
Right.
I mean, it's.
It was just the.
You know, and I'll be honest,they spent a little bit more time
on this home, and it stilldidn't quite do it justice because
it was.
It was stunning inside.
It was very old, a little bitchoppy, but it was stunning.
And we were actually pretty surprised.
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Yeah.
I mean, the detail and thecraftsmanship was just amazing.
So Central Gardens was builtprimary between 1850 and 1930 for
the wealthy middle class ofMemphis, basically, those.
Those cotton boomers,basically cotton farmers and things
like that.
And it was really like a nice area.
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And people had larger homesand farms out there.
It was more farmy as well.
It's been now moreincorporated to homes.
And you could tell from thearchitecture that these rooms had
just the fine detailing in the woodwork.
And they had these pocketdoors that you just don't see everywhere.
It had the stained glass.
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It had a beautiful kitchen.
And we just.
We just fell in love with that house.
It was.
It was a little more than wewanted to spend.
And when you get upstairs, youcan see how the rooms would have
been difficult.
We have three children, and wewant to keep it fair.
Plus we have to worry about aprimary bedroom for us and podcasting
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space.
Yeah, it didn't have, like, the.
The Master bath, master bedroom.
That's one of the things Ithink this is fine to talk about.
One of the things they ask youon the show is, is not to say master
bedroom.
Yes.
They ask you to say primary.
Yes.
And that's because I guess themaster bedroom has just been used
for so many years, they just,they change it.
So that was kind of aninteresting thing.
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But with that there was nobathroom dedicated to the ma.
The primary, the master master bedroom.
The only bathroom that wasattached to a room was that little
room that looked like anoffice which had the laundry in it
too.
Yeah, it was, it was veryclassically historic.
100 plus years old, smallerrooms, actually decent size even,
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even for.
By today's standards, but justkind of chopped up.
Upstairs they had a thirdfloor that Jen went up there and
started talking about, oh, wecould install a bathroom, we could
do this, we could do that.
I was like, this is, I'm notlooking for massive projects like
that.
That was one of the things.
Yeah, you could put a primarysuite up there.
But again you're on the thirdfloor then, which is a lot of stairs
and you could tell there was avery large size room.
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But that definitely was like amore than one child room and you
could tell that's what it was.
But there was no otherbathroom attached to a main bedroom
because that's not what theydid in the 1850s.
I mean you were lucky to haveindoor plumbing.
So you usually had one bathroom.
And even the second bathroomup there looks like it was probably
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not a bathroom at first.
It was probably a laundry roomand they had made it into a bathroom.
So it was one of those placesthat it would, if you wanted it to
fit your lifestyle and beusable, it was going to take some
work.
And if you do work in ahistoric home, you have to up make
sure you up keep the integrityof the home.
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And doing that works.
It's always more expensive andsometimes you have to get those things
approved as well.
Especially when you're in ahistoric district such as this.
So it's one of those thingslike the added cost of doing historic
renovations is probably likedouble a normal reserv renovation.
So it was already.
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That's the, that's the highestpriced house we looked at.
I think it was like 685.
Yeah, it was pretty high.
Now they had converted likewhat looked to be a two car garage
in the back into basicallylike a suite.
So there was a kitchen,bathroom, bedroom back there.
So kind of like a mother inlaw suite type space.
And so that would have been agreat podcasting space for us.
It would have worked very,very well.
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It would have worked well.
But if you remember, we havethree small children with a ton of
bikes and outdoor equipment.
Yeah.
We need a garage.
We need a garage.
Now.
They had a full size basementin that house I didn't show you.
And it's very.
A little more difficult toaccess because.
Was it underneath, like theside driveway area?
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No, you went in the side doorand it was down the stairs.
But very Home Alone esque.
Right.
It was like kind of like scarydown there.
And so it was one of thoselike, are you really gonna, how often
are you gonna go down there?
You don't have to go downthere for laundry or anything.
Use it for like Christmasstorage stuff.
Yeah.
But it was beautiful.
And was there any other kindof history in the area that you wanted
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to.
No, just like, just know thatCentral Gardens is like that.
That's where the originalmayor lived.
That's where the USRepresentatives for Memphis have
lived there.
The governor's wife.
Right.
Now our governor, his wife isfrom there.
It's just such a historic partof Memphis.
If you were going to say Ilive in the historic area of Memphis,
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the first place people aregoing to think of is Central Garden.
Yeah.
So it, it was, it was pretty cool.
Now the next house that we, welooked at was out in Arlington.
So Arlington, if you're notfamiliar with the greater Memphis
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area.
Right.
Picture Tennessee in your head.
Memphis is in that bottom left corner.
Right.
Arlington is kind of northwestof, of Memphis or sorry, northeast.
And it's actually closer tothe base where I work for the Navy.
So that was kind of the bigdraw there.
If we lived there.
And I know many, many peoplethat live there.
I work with a lot of, youknow, fellow officers and enlisted
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folks who live in the greaterArlington area.
That would have been a muchshorter commute because from downtown
Memphis or the third home,it's about a 40 minute drive out
to the base.
So this was Arlington.
It was a newer build home, wasprobably four or five years old.
Yeah.
You know, maybe.
But everything's brandspanking new now.
A lot smaller.
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A lot smaller.
I think we were going to buyfrom original owner.
Yeah.
And so that wasn't a lot ofstory there, which I didn't care
for.
And you could tell it really was.
It looked like only two peoplereally lived there and they had like
maybe their grandkids come and stay.
Yeah.
But it was so it had all likethe outlets that you want and had
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all the modern wiring and allthat nice stuff.
And that part of me was justlike, ah, it would be so nice to
buy new.
Yes, I mean, that's true.
So when you think of Memphis,Memphis is about 600,000 people.
And so that's Central Gardens.
It's the second most popularpopulous city in Tennessee beside
Nashville.
Arlington is only about 15,000 people.
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So it's, it's older.
It got its name in 1900.
It was first incorporated in 1878.
It's named for ArlingtonNational Cemetery.
So it gets its name from that.
That's cool.
But it's, it's just not, it's.
It.
You wouldn't have all theamenities as far as shopping and
stuff.
It's not as built up.
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It's not as built up.
But you are close to the baseand you have a bunch of families
there who are also base people.
So that's kind of easy for thekids to kind of find friends quickly
because everyone's doing that.
And some people like that areabecause it's not built up.
You can, you can get a newerhouse with a little bit more land
out, out in that, that part ofthe, the greater Memphis area.
Yeah.
And the house, I mean, thebathroom would be my dream bathroom.
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Yeah.
It was beautiful.
It was beautiful.
Like if I was going to build abathroom, that's exactly how I wanted
it to look.
Now we didn't show you thecloset attached to that.
That was smaller.
And they don't really show youthe garages.
That was a two car garage, butit also seemed smaller.
And like I said, we have tonsof stuff with kids so we really need
a three car garage.
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If.
And this is, even has a garagewith the other place.
Didn't.
The, the thing that I reallylove though is it had no mature trees.
Yeah.
This is what you see in theCentral Gardens house is the squirrels.
And since we had lived herebefore, I've had to deal with squirrels
in your attic.
And once they get in yourattic, it's like a, it's a nightmare
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to try to get them out.
Pest control and all that stuff.
And anytime you have treelimbs that are close to your roof
or can touch your roof, you'regoing to get squirrels.
And this had no trees.
So you know, there was goingto be no problem with that whatsoever.
It was a little tight in areas.
It was, it was, it was smaller.
So there wasn't quite as muchas what we were looking for other
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than the fact that it was newand close to the base.
Yeah.
And I didn't I don't like asink in the island.
Like, even there was space.
But the thing about having anisland for me is I want an island.
I can completely clear off ifI need to.
And with a sink in the island,you're always going to have stuff
around your sink to do dishes.
Like, there's always going tobe something there.
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And I.
It still clutters up the space.
And so I want nothing in my island.
I don't want, like I said inthe show, I don't want burners in
the island.
I don't want a stove top inthe island.
I don't want a sink in the island.
I just want a plain island.
So that had that against it as well.
I will say I love the detailsof, like, the lantern lighting and
you see me talk about that andof course, the granite countertops.
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Now to kind of step back andtalk a little bit more about what
being on the show is like,because I'm sure you're curious.
I mean, this was a full weekof filming, right?
And this is pretty obviousbecause you're wearing different
outfits for different days andstuff like that.
And so each house that wevisited was a full day of filming,
right?
Again, relatively obviousbecause we're wearing different clothes
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each day.
We're.
We're filming for eight hours, right?
We had a great crew withproducer and videographers and sound
guy and production assistant.
And they were just so muchfun, actually, to be with.
I was pleasantly surprised.
And we learned a lot.
We learned a lot just kind offrom how they did things in kind
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of how they worked each siteeach day and what they kind of had
to do to prep everything andto make sure it looks good and stuff
like that.
So for me, from a productionperspective, I was kind of trying
to learn as much as I could,but it was really, really interesting.
And then for the first day,what they call, like the slice of
life, right?
We got to drive up and film atour friend's house, Chris and Naomi,
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who we've known here fromMemphis before.
So they were excited becausethey got to, to be on the show and,
and their house was actuallywhat we used to do the sit down interview
in the, in the very beginning.
So that's a little bit moreabout what it's like to be on House
Hunters.
We were, we filmed for five days.
Five days, eight hours stay.
And always think, like, we'rewearing mics.
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Like, they put mics on us,they're underneath our shirts, they're
taped down.
And then we have to Carry thelittle pack with us.
And so it was funny that youdon't realize that, like, you're
always mic'd up.
So even between the sceneswere mic'd up so the sound guy could
always hear us, like, if Iburped or if I did said something
and I could see him give athumbs up, like he was listening
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to everything.
So you have to be aware.
So it was super interesting.
And when you think about it,right, just from watching it, like,
oh, yeah, that kind of makessense that they would be wearing
mics.
But you don't.
Right.
You don't necessarily thinkabout it because the show's been
on for so long.
You just kind of watch andyou're looking at the houses.
So that.
That was.
Was pretty interesting.
They were great, too.
I will say.
We had a fantastic crew.
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By the last day, I had boughteveryone gifts.
Like, we got to know eachother very well.
They.
They rode bikes with our kids.
Like, they were just afantastic crew.
It felt almost the close.
Like family.
They were really great.
It was.
It was a good group of people.
So now we'll move on from theArlington new build.
Right.
So the first home was thehistoric home.
The second one was the new build.
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And the third one ended upbeing, you know, I'll call it the
Goldilocks.
But this was one in Collierville.
And spoiler alert, this iswhere we actually ended up.
So Collierville, we were looking.
Already had kind of beenlooking in this neighborhood, but
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this was probably the largesthome that we looked at.
So we.
The last time we were here, wehad lived in Germantown.
We didn't look in that area.
And it's kind of like Memphis,Germantown, Collierville.
So this is one more townfurther out or suburb further east
than Memphis.
And we make our decision inthat Collierville square.
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And I had recommended thatbecause it had won, like most cute
town square or most Americanatown Square in 2014.
And you kind of see when wewalk around it, it is a very cute
square.
And Collierville's historic.
50,000 people live there, butit's the second oldest town in Shelby
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County.
And there's two battles fromthe Civil War that take place in
Collierville.
And one of them is Sherman is here.
And the reason why it's soimportant is that railroad line runs
right through Collierville.
And they're.
The Union protected it fromthe Confederacy taking it.
And those two battles are theConfederacy tries to take the railroad
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line there at Collierville twice.
And twice they're rebuffed bythe Union.
The first time is with GeneralSherman, and so they even have his
name there.
And if you looked at GeneralSherman's list of battles, Collierville
is listed on there.
So it's kind of neat, itsplace in American history and its
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place in the history of thecounty being one of these older towns.
And when we looked at thehouse here, it just felt like this
one was ticking all the boxesfor both of us.
It was historic enough, butnew enough.
It had all the space weneeded, and it was still an okay
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drive for Scott.
It was just.
It.
It met both of the things wewere looking for.
But this house required themost work.
Yeah, this one, we actually.
We did a fair amount of workto it once we finally got, you.
Know, once we bought it.
Yeah, once we bought it, we.
We ended up kind of opening upa wall downstairs between the kitchen
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and living room to really kindof open up.
Right.
A little more modern, open,open concept type feel, which actually
made it feel a lot bigger inthat area.
I mean, we live down therewhen we're not up here podcasting,
but, you know, it has grandcolumns out front, and I'll put some
pictures up on the video justto kind of show a little bit.
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I don't know if I can putlarge clips of the actual TV show
itself, because it's hgtv, soit's theirs.
Right.
But it ticked all the boxes.
It was an area we had alreadybeen considering because we had been
in Germantown relativelyclose, so we were actually close
to some of our old friends.
And so that was another bigdriver for us.
We had to replace all thecarpet in the entire house, every
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bit of carpet, because theother carpet, you couldn't even live
with it.
It was so dirty and worn down.
And in the boy's bathroom,half of the bathroom was carpeted
and the other half was tiled,so we had to retile the whole thing.
And because I tried to matchthe tile in there, but that tile
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was 30 years old and theycouldn't find it anymore.
So we retired the whole bathro.
And then you'll see inMadison's bedroom was popcorn ceilings.
No other ceilings have popcornexcept for that ceiling.
So we had to scrape her ceiling.
And then we ended up painting everywhere.
So besides taking down thewall, we repainted the kitchen and
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repainted our master, ourprimary bedroom.
We repainted the kids room.
We touched it up a little bit.
And Madison's room we replaced.
We painted three walls.
Yeah, we.
We.
Jen.
Jen got out here and like, did a.
A.
A fair amount we had some helpfrom our.
Some from our friends.
So thank you to.
To all of them who.
Who helped us when we werepainting and moving in and we were
(23:16):
moving chandeliers aroundbecause we got a friend who used
to be electrician for, youknow, a nuke electrician.
So he was great.
So.
And it was like we.
I used historic paint colors,so I used paint colors that were
inspired by colonial Williamsburg.
Yeah.
So the kitchen is Yorktowngray and that.
The Yorktown Revolutionary War.
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The Battle of Yorktown.
And then our downstairsbathroom, our half bath was like
the last thing, even though Iripped off the wallpaper right away,
which they don't really showit on the.
On the show.
It was like this bright red berries.
Yeah.
Wallpaper.
I couldn't stand it.
It was like maybe feel the psychedelic.
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So I ripped that off the wallfirst thing.
And we lived with bare wallsin there for 10 months until I painted
it.
Yeah.
And I finally painted itagain, a Yorktown color, Washington
blue.
But then I hung wallpaper ofthe mural of Washington crossing.
So.
So you're.
When you're.
When you're sitting down,you're sitting there basically in
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the boat with Washington onthe Washington crossing.
I mean, it's.
It's a huge mural.
You know, it's like 6ft by 6ft tall.
Yeah, I think it's 6ft tall by10ft by 10ft.
So it wraps around, you know,2/3 of the room.
So very much a historian'sdownstairs half bath.
And if, you know, Hamilton, wehave a sign in there that says in
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the room where it happens.
So it's kind of funny with thebathroom, but just know that when.
If you want.
When you watch the show, therewas a beautiful brown desk where
we had taken out the wall.
We were able to save that desk.
And we repurposed it.
We repurposed it.
We gave the bottom half to ourson, who wanted a desk so bad, and
he got his first desk.
And then we flipped the hutchpart and we're using it as a bar.
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Yeah.
Because it's so sturdy andwell made.
So we've been able to kind ofrepurpose things in the house, but
it's just taken a lot to.
To recarpet an entire house,to paint a lot of this house, to
take out a wall.
It just.
It's the kind of work thatit's just on the cusp of what you
can do if you want to put inthe sweat equity.
(25:22):
But with three kids and jobsand doing this, it's like it's taken
us some time to kind of getthere, but this house feels so great.
Like for our first time, thekids have their own rooms.
Yeah.
And then we have this podcast studio.
So this podcast studio, justso you know, Right.
If you're watching this, thiswas kind of like a media room.
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They actually, I still haven'ttaken it out, but they had like an
overhead projector and like awhole little AV space if you could.
If you can't see it.
But back behind over here, ifwe zoomed out, you'd be able to see
it.
And so now this is ourdedicated podcast space.
And it's been so nice for usbecause if you ever started with
us early on, we would set upand break down on our living room
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dining room table in Norfolkfor three years.
And we did that every other night.
Every other night.
Once a week, sometimes twice aweek, setting it all up, breaking
it all down, storing it away.
And we did that for three years.
And so now we finally have apodcast studio.
We're finally able to kind ofmake it smooth enough so we can make
these videos for you and makethese, you know, just so much easier
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for us, production wise andreally kind of step up our game.
Yeah.
And I will say filming forHouse Hunters was kind of a dream
come true.
Like, we actually made it.
We're buying a house.
You know, We've been married17 years.
We're buying a house.
The kids are getting their own rooms.
We're filming an episode ofHouse Hunters.
We're talking about thehistory of Memphis.
And for us, it just felt sogood to kind of do that and to be
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able to share that with all of you.
It was exciting, it was fun.
We learned a lot and we madesome friends along the way and.
And the kids had a great time.
So the whole experience wasjust fantastic.
Yeah.
So if you're watching this orif you're listening to this, like,
shoot us an email or.
Or drop us a comment in, youknow, for the video version.
If you have questions about,you know, our experience, we'll kind
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of pass along what we'reallowed to pass along.
And, you know, thank you somuch for all your.
Your support, our listenersupport, our watcher support over
the years.
And we're excited to kind ofmove into this next phase with the
podcast studio doing morevideo and kind of just really kind
of, you know, pushing the.
The Talk with History brandforward and the podcast forward.
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Yeah.
So if you're interested inhistory and on location history and
stuff, you can listen, listento with your kids.
In the car.
You know, subscribe to Talkwith History.
It's a great way to listen towhere you're visiting before you
get there and give you adviceof what to see, where to park and
what to eat.
Yeah.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This has been a Walk withHistory production.
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Talk with History is createdand hosted by me, Scott Benny.
Episode researched by Jennifer Benny.
Check out the show notes forlinks and references mentioned in
this episode.
Talk with History issupported, supported by our fans@thehistoryroadtrip.com
our eternal thanks go out tothose providing funding to help keep
us going.
Thank you to Doug McLiberty,Larry Myers, Patrick Benny, and Gale
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Cooper.
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