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October 21, 2025 12 mins

In this episode of Talking Dairy in 10, get the inside scoop from Pasture Summit directors Robbie Ferris and Al Rayne. They reveal what’s happening at the upcoming Pasture Summit events, and why they’re a “must have” event on your calendar this spring. 

Spring 2025 events are being held in Canterbury on Thursday 27 November, and Taranaki on Friday 12 December. 

Find out more and register at: Pasture Summit 

Pasture Summit is a farmer-led initiative focused on securing the future of pastoral dairy food production. Its events and activities bring together practical insights, shared experiences, and a strong sense of purpose. As a key partner, DairyNZ contributes funding, research-backed content, and experts to help farmers build resilient, profitable businesses and sustainable communities. 

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SPEAKER_00 (00:01):
Ki ora and welcome to Talking Dairy in 10.
I'm your host Jack McGowan fromDairyNZ.
In this episode, we've got apreview of the Pasture Summit
spring events coming up in lateNovember and early December.
For those that don't know,Pasture Summit is run by farmers
for farmers, and it's all aboutsharing practical ideas to keep
pastoral farming strong,productive and sustainable for

(00:24):
the future.
I'm joined by two of the PastureSummit directors, Chair Robbie
Ferris and Secretary Al Rain.
They've got the inside scoop onwhat Pasture Summit is about and
what you'll see at the springevents and why it's well worth
getting along.
Tina Kurua, Robbie and Al,welcome.
It's great to have you here.

SPEAKER_01 (00:43):
Great to be given the opportunity.
Thanks, Jack.
Thanks, Joe.
Good to be here.

SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
Okay, Robbie, let's start with the big picture.
Why was Pasture Summit createdand what's it all about for
farmers?

SPEAKER_01 (00:54):
Pasture Summit was formed back in 2017, Jack, and
we had a conference in 2018 heldup at Claudland's and then down
at Ashburton.
Those conferences are over twodays.
And um originally we had a heavyinvolvement with Ireland, and
the idea was to do conferencesevery second year in the two
countries.

(01:14):
And then um, like it did with somany other things, COVID came
along and sort of blew our ideasout of the water.
But we've still kept that linkwith Ireland, and the second
part of that was ensuring thatDairy and Z and Chuggis, which
is Ireland's research facility,were communicating because both
of those organizations are setup to ultimately benefit farmers

(01:36):
through research and increasingprofitability on farm.
So we've achieved that.

(01:56):
We also probably saw a gap in umbringing real success for
stories on farm and lining thatup with research.
Derry and Z have got a hell of alot of research going back to
the 30s, 40s, 50s, but actuallygetting that on farm, we saw it
was probably struggling to dothat in the last decade or so.

(02:16):
So what we wanted to see wasreally good farmers out there
that are championing theindustry, but and then getting
them stood side by side with ascientist to bring the science
onto the farm, but also get thescientists so they've got their
gum boots on, standing besidethe farmer and understanding
actually what this stuff lookslike in a commercial environment

(02:37):
as well.

SPEAKER_02 (02:38):
I suppose ultimately we can be pretty proud of the
dairy sector's being great atsharing ideas, supporting one
another.
And part of our goal is that webring farmers together so they
can share their stories andshare their ideas and support
one another.
So to keep part of the uh theevents is that they are very

(02:59):
interactive.
Ultimately, what we want to seeis a a vibrant, thriving dairy
sector, and we want to see youngfarmers coming through, young
farmers being successful andconnecting with successful
farmers who've trodden thatpath.

SPEAKER_00 (03:13):
Okay, thank you both.
All right, so Al, tell us aboutthe upcoming spring pasture
summer events.
When and where are theyhappening this year?

SPEAKER_02 (03:22):
The spring events this year for pasture summit.
The first one is in Canterburyat Burnham on the 27th of
November.
And the second event is inTaranaki on Friday, the 12th of
December.

SPEAKER_00 (03:35):
Thank you.
And the events are held on farm.
Robbie, do you want to tell us abit about the farm that you're
connected to?
Why were they chosen?
What can people expect?

SPEAKER_01 (03:45):
We're delighted to be back down in Taranaki.
The farm that we're going to isthe Armstrong Family Farm, and
they've got an excellent story.
So there's Ian and Judith stillstrongly involved in the farm,
but they've also passed that onnow to their son-in-law, Johnny
Wright, who's operations manageron the farm, and then also

(04:06):
involved because it's quite abrig enterprise, there's um
contract milkers on the farm aswell, which is Daniel and
Monique Newell.
So it gives us almost the broadspectrum, right from the people
who started the business, andthen we've got family involved,
and we've also got contractmilkers coming through, so young
people that have been given anopportunity in the industry.

(04:28):
And we're excited to be therebecause we've got a great lineup
of support scientists, rightfrom the likes of John Roach
from MPI, who is going to befascinating to listen to with
his new role down in thegovernment and um a real
champion for dairy farmers, sothat's exciting in itself.
Through to Ravensdown andBalance Soil scientists, and

(04:50):
we've also got Paul Byrd fromDairyNZ, Mark Lawrence, and a
host of other people.
So we've got a pack scheduledown there.
Talking to the organisers downthere, Katie and Leah from
DairyNZ down there have done abrilliant job of pulling all
this together.
It's going to be a great day,and probably the biggest problem
we have is how we're going toget through it all, seen as

(05:12):
we've got John Roach talkingright at the start.
So we'll see.

SPEAKER_00 (05:17):
Yeah, you have to put a time limit on him.

SPEAKER_01 (05:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They don't usually work, Jack.

SPEAKER_00 (05:21):
Yeah, no.
For those that don't know whatJohn Roach's new role is, can
you tell us, Robbie?

SPEAKER_01 (05:27):
So he's chief science advisor to the
government, essentially.
So he is Christopher Luxon'sright-hand man, anything
science, he goes to John about.

SPEAKER_00 (05:39):
And Al, can you tell us about the farm down in
Canterbury?
Um, a little bit about them.
Why were they chosen and whatcan people expect on the day
down there?

SPEAKER_02 (05:47):
So the host of Mick and Kirsten O'Connor, the
outstanding farmers, they'reknown to some of the committee
members, and we approached themand they were they were very
keen to give back to the dairycommunity that's been so good to
them.
So we're hugely appreciative oftheir openness and willingness
to host us.
Mick and Kirsten have a passionfor learning and uh
continuelessly upskillingthemselves and their team.

(06:09):
They understand their numbersand uh have truly outstanding
cost control and profitability.
They've worked their way up fromwages and started share milking
in 2014, and just as the milkprice crashed, they learned a
hard lesson that the farm's abusiness and it's a psychical
business.
And as a result, they set out toreally understand and manage
their financials.
So outstanding in terms ofmotivation, in terms of

(06:33):
upskilling their staff and thebelief in their people, and in
terms of their financialmanagement performance.
And they have uh run a verysimple system that is at the
very top end of what's possiblein turning pasture to milk.
So delighted to have the Davy ontheir farm.

SPEAKER_00 (06:53):
In terms of scientists coming along, what
have you got?

SPEAKER_02 (06:56):
We're a little bit different.
We had uh a little bit of staticabout some water issues in
Canterbury here.
And uh so as a result, we havepitched our science session,
will be around helping farmersunderstand what impact we're
having on their environment, andwhat are the levers we've got,
and what are the actual numbersaround uh greenhouse gases and

(07:17):
water quality and nitrogen inthe environment.
And so we will have uh peoplewho will be able to fill us in
on that.
And the host farmers themselveshave been involved in a um an
end loss profitability studytoo.
So we've got some real datathere on in terms of the farm's
impact on the environment andthe made changes, significant
changes, and just how that'sflowed through into the bottom

(07:39):
line in terms of the environmentand their profitability.
So it will be interesting.
I guess the aim is that farmersgo away in a better position
when the questions are asked ofthem.
They've got the knowledge todiscuss what they're doing, what
they're able to do, and you knowwhat our impact is and isn't.

SPEAKER_00 (07:55):
Yeah, that sounds really worthwhile.
Farmers always have plenty ontheir plates, but events like
this are worth finding time for.
Al, what is the value in comingalong to a pasture summit event
and what do you hope farmerswill take away from it in a
nutshell?

SPEAKER_02 (08:10):
The events almost always have we profile someone
who's been very successful inthe path they've chosen.
So this will be a chance to hearfrom a farmer couple of the path
they've taken, why they tookthat path, uh, what they've
learned along the way, andgetting the results and
understanding the results, thephysical and financial results
from the way they run theirbusiness.

(08:31):
So it's a an opportunity to havethe full picture, which you
often don't get.
Uh, you'll get one side, usuallyproduction side, but this is the
full picture that farmers canhave here.
And we very much encouragediscussion and questioning so
that it's a it's everyone theirguest a chance to ask the
questions that mean most of themor to comment on their
experience as well.

SPEAKER_00 (08:52):
And what have you heard from farmers about what
they've got out of these events,you know, in prior years and how
they've kind of applied thatback on their farm?

SPEAKER_01 (08:59):
Probably the biggest thing I think that we can get
out of these events, Jack, orwhat the takeaway is is the
learning from the day.
So if I take the Taranaki one,for example, if you're a young
guy or a young couple cominginto the industry, you can see
how these contract milk is withum Daniel and Manook, how
they've got to where they areand where they're going and how
they're gonna get there.

(09:20):
But equally we've got uh Ian andJudith there to tell the story
around their succession and howthey're doing that.
So if you're a family farmstruggling with those questions,
or even if those questions aregonna start to come up over the
next five or 10 years, comealong and listen to these guys.
They're they've obviously doneit, and we're not saying it's a
one-size-fits-all uh with any ofthis stuff, but it does.

(09:44):
It it builds on what you alreadyknow and it can really kick
start something there.
And probably what I'd say tothat too is bring your
consultant along or youraccountant or your um bank
manager because they're the onesthat are going to be standing
side by side with this stuff,you know, and if you talk to
them really nicely, they mighteven shout you the ticket to get
there.

SPEAKER_00 (10:05):
Always worth asking.

SPEAKER_01 (10:06):
It is, you know, and if you do need more information
and how to register is jump onthe Pasture Summit website.
We've got great sponsorspartnering with Dairy and Z,
obviously, and our platinumsponsor, ASB, which has kept the
cost right down.
But you know, the Pasture Summitis run by volunteers, so there
does have to be a charge to putthese days together,

(10:27):
essentially.
But that's absolutely well worthgoing to, and it'd be the best
return on investment you can getthis year.

SPEAKER_00 (10:34):
Okay, and for people that do want to register or just
find out more information, whatis that website address?

SPEAKER_01 (10:39):
Pasture summit.co.nz.
Go and have a look on there.
There's uh past events andrecordings and things like that.
That'll get you familiar withpasture summit and what we're
all about.

SPEAKER_02 (10:50):
Oh, cool.
Just a comment.
It was interesting.
We had at a previous event wehad the Associate Ministry of
Agriculture was along.
He attended because he was inthe area and he'd come from uh
another sector event that was onthe same morning.
He came to the pasture summitevent and he was blown away, in
his own words, by theenthusiasm, by the energy.

(11:10):
There's so many young peoplethere in attendance, and they
were being inspired on the day.
He was delighted with that.
Gave him a great deal of hopethat the sector was in really
strong art.
So, and I think that goes backto our goal is one of them to
have vibrant dairy communities,and I think that we do aim to
deliver on that.
And it's a pleasure to see somany young and engaged people

(11:32):
there at these events.

SPEAKER_00 (11:33):
Thank you, Robby and Al.
It's been so great to hear howPasture Summit is creating space
for farmers to learn from eachother and share experiences.
Stay ahead of the challenges andthe opportunities in dairy and
be vibrant, like you said, Al.
If you are keen to be part ofit, head to pasturesummit.co.nz
for all the details and toregister.
And that's it for this episodeof Talking Dairy in 10.

(11:55):
We hope to see you at thePasture Summit event soon.
Matiwa Modi Orda.
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