What if technology isn't just about moving forward but also about the joy of looking back? Join us on Tech Time Radio as we dive into the depths of space exploration, discussing the crucial role of advanced clocks and the historical parallels to maritime navigation. Our exploration takes a turn as we question Meta's decision to end fact-checking, with thought-provoking implications for Silicon Valley. Adding a twist to the tech talk, we sip on Sagamore Spirits Double Oak Rye Whiskey while unraveling the truth behind NVIDIA's identity as they pivot towards AI and supercomputing.
We're thrilled to have cybersecurity expert Gwen Way with us, sharing her unique insights into technology, recent mergers, and, of course, our Gadgets and Gear Segment that looks at the Neutral Freedom X Multi-position chair, a Kickstarter gem promising versatility in seating. The episode takes a light-hearted turn as we celebrate the US Supreme Court's landmark decision on VCR recordings, reflecting on how it paved the way for modern DVR systems. Our anecdotes about recording TV shows during the pre-internet era add a charming touch of nostalgia, reminding us of the tech evolution we've witnessed.
We wrap up with a retrospective glance at soon-to-be-obsolete technologies, weighing the balance between nostalgia and progress. From ICQ to Chromecast, we ponder their fading relevance and the journey of technology into the future. Join us for a compelling hour where tech news meets whiskey, offering insights, laughs, and a touch of nostalgia.
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Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm.
The show that makes you go mmm.
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The show for the everydayperson talking about technology,
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Speaker 1 (01:35):
Now on today's show.
Nathan Mum (01:40):
All right.
On today's show we're going tobe talking about the top 10
technologies that vanished in2024.
I have a list of these, so theymay surprise you as well.
Others may be of interest toyou, some you might actually
miss.
We have deep space exploration,but guess what?
There's a piece of technologywe need to perfect how we
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explore space.
And just when you thinktechnology can't get more
intense, there's Meta's bolddecision to end fact-checking as
Silicon Valley braces for ashift.
Plus, we explore NVIDIA's trueidentity.
Are they just a company fortechnology, or are they now the
new leaders of AI?
In addition, of course, we haveour standard features, including
Mike's mesmerizing moment, ourtechnology fail of the week and
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a possible Nathan Nugget.
Absolutely, I hope we get tothat today.
It should be pretty engaging.
And of course, our pick of theday whiskey tasting, to see if
our selected whiskey pick getszero, one or two thumbs up at
the end of the show.
So if you watched last week'sshow, we had four special
whiskeys that we did the veryfirst episode.
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In each month we have kind ofthis battle of whiskeys that are
going on.
We're back to our standardtradition today of just one shot
of whiskey.
So hopefully our hosts and andso hosts will be able to keep
our speech in line instead ofslurring at the end of the show.
Last shows that us were prettyinteresting.
You should have seen me, I was.
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I was a little tipsy but, let'snow move on.
Okay, let's move on to ourlatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mum (03:22):
All right Story Number one NVIDIA is a
technology company or is it anAI company?
Let's go to Crenn, Westland formore on the story.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Jensen Huang says NVIDIA is a technology company,
but it's really an AI company.
Huang opened up CES 2025 in LasVegas with a keynote that
packed the Michelob Ultra Arenain the Mandalay Bay Casino.
There was certainly a hugeportion of gamers who'd come to
see the latest RTX 50 seriescards in the flesh, but more
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were there to see how a companyas lucrative as NVIDIA moves
forward.
Rtx and Project Digits drewhollers and shouts from the
crowd.
Is NVIDIA going to be able tokeep the momentum as the cool
processor company everyone wantsto use?
Only time will tell Back to youguys in the studio.
Nathan Mum (04:11):
All right.
So let's talk about this.
Nvidia, nvidia, nvidia.
They are the hot company or themost talked about company for
CES and we're going to have ourCES best of the best show next
week.
We're also going to have withthat, of course, our worst of
the worst, our crazy ideas andthe best ideas.
Mostly all of next week will beCES.
But let's talk about NVIDIA.
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They did the keynote speechhere.
Um, nvidia is now saying thatthey're moving on to not only do
graphic processors but to doprocessors that will be working
in some of the largest companiesAI factories for AI.
It's really interesting thatNVIDIA has a real different
approach on how they're takingthemselves now, kind of becoming
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the chip leader in the UnitedStates, and what they do is
they're going to focus on theircustomers.
Jensen Wong says that we aregoing to respond to our
customers wherever they are andwith whatever they need.
What's that going to be like?
So what he's trying to do is,instead of some of these
companies, these processorcompanies like if I needed help
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with an Intel processor, do youthink if I call Intel or go to
intelcom, do you think I get anysupport from them?
Or AMD no, I get no support.
They tell me to go back towhoever I bought their processor
from, work with them to get arefund or work with them on an
issue, but they're not going todo anything.
Nvidia is saying that we'reactually going to do that, so
we're going to actually spendthe time and effort to talk to
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each of our individuals that areusing us.
They actually opened up a wholebunch of open source
information.
They have some of the best AIscalers to upscale in games.
So if you have a game that youhave, you can actually use
NVIDIA's DLSS, which has beenaround for six years, to put a
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game's graphics in there and itwill actually go through and
analyze it and increase thegraphics pre-done for your games
.
That are taken care of All opensource.
You don't have to pay somebodyto do additional work.
But NVIDvidia now is sayingthat they're not going to just
be uh in pc gamers high-endcards, that they're going to
move into the processing uhcomponent powers which we talked
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about this a little bit.
Supercomputers were supposed tobe taken over the world now,
but supercomputers are stillbased on ones and zeros, whereas
Whereas NVIDIA's chipset is notbased on ones and zeros, it's
based on if and then statements,so they have a whole different
process.
That's like basic.
Well, like, if then?
So, if this happens, then thisif this happens, remember basic.
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Yeah, and and and the, thecoprocessors for your
supercomputers are all based on,like the Intel models, which
are ones and zeros that it hasto process and break down.
So Nvidia is messaging.
That, they said, is that we aregoing to make tools for
researchers, scientists andstudents, that they're going to
be able to use our tools foranybody that stumbles across us
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that either receives a $3,000 anhour for their service or a
dollar fifty and is living oninstant ramen.
Mike Gorday (07:08):
All of those are their customers yeah, I don't
know how they're going to dothat, because I have you ever.
Have you ever watched thediscord stream?
I have, yeah, some.
What are?
What are pc gamers doing like80 to 99.9 percent of the time
in a discord?
Well, they're alwayscomplaining they're whining
about something.
Nathan Mum (07:28):
Yeah, they're always their computer isn't so.
So what I find interesting isthey don't have a lack of skill.
It's always their computer thathas the lack of skill.
Yeah, when you get old.
When you get older, guess whatI just find out?
I just am not quick anymorewith my uh reflexes.
I play games all the time.
This, this Tetris battle that.
Mike Gorday (07:43):
I do no way.
Nathan Mum (07:45):
I'm not quick.
Are you admitting?
Yes, yeah, it's not my computer.
The computer is great, it's theold guy that's trying to move
the arrow keys up and down soyou don't get on Discord and
just whine at everybody, I donot and then get really nasty
reply comments.
Mike Gorday (07:58):
I do not.
Nathan Mum (07:59):
I'll tell you this I think NVIDIA, in the next five
to six years, they are going tobe the company that sets how AI
works.
I do Because they're going tobe the processors that
everybody's are using for AI,and I think they're going to
have some control on that.
Yeah, okay, well, okay,whatever.
All right, let's go to storynumber two.
Mike, what do you have forstory number two?
This sounds exciting.
Mike Gorday (08:20):
Well, I guess the question is if you want to
explore deep space, what is onething you'll need?
Nathan Mum (08:28):
To have.
Yeah, until we talked aboutthis article, I had no idea.
I didn't think this would be anissue.
Mike Gorday (08:35):
Yeah, but you would think well, I need a cool
spaceship, I need to have some.
Hydrogen for the engines, maybehydrogen, I don't know or
whatever whatever, I guessyou're flying blimps in this
space, okay, well, okay, uh, inorder for us to explore deep
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space, people don't think aboutthis, but we're gonna need
better clocks.
Better clocks, explain that tome.
Well, let's harken back to theearly days of exploration in
1714.
The Crown of England ran acontest in search of a more
accurate clock that sailorscould use to navigate while at
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sea.
Today, scientists are facing asimilar problem for outer space.
Every single day, we rely onhundreds of hidden clocks.
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Okay, Okay, Clock drift okay.
And the speed at which theclock is moving can set these
clocks very slightly out of sync.
This phenomenon is called clockdrift.
Clock drift okay To control forit.
Gps clocks are set to check thetime and correct themselves
regularly.
But in outer space, criticalfunctions like communications
and navigation require evengreater clock accuracy, down to
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a billionth of a second or more.
That's why atomic physicists atNASA want to build a more
precise, more autonomous atomicclock.
The team hopes a prototype willbe ready late this year to keep
a more accurate time.
So maybe NASA will change theway we measure our day, so going
back.
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I'm going to get up at 8 a amand a billionth of two seconds.
Nathan Mum (10:29):
Okay, so like in, star trek or track, however you
want to start.
Yes, okay, let's talk aboutstar trek.
Okay, so they always use likestar dates, right?
So did they come up with?
Uh, so it sounds like they cameup with a way to do time star
date two, three seasons.
Mike Gorday (10:44):
So I'm just kind of curious if it never fails, that
you will take.
You will take this thing andrelate it to a fictional show
well, hang on, now they have wegot.
Nathan Mum (10:54):
We got leds that look just like they did on the
next generation the stardate isnot based on an earth, an
earth-centric thing it's basedon a a standardized like
galactic format.
Right, yeah, okay, that's thatbecause right now our clocks are
based on the sun right, whichis just specifically to our
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world.
Mike Gorday (11:15):
That, yeah, circles around the sun well it, yes,
that's where it starts.
It starts with that 12 hourcycle of a day to night to day
to night.
But you know so, tatooine?
Nathan Mum (11:26):
isn't on ours.
Okay, here we got the star Warsreference.
Mike Gorday (11:30):
Okay, yeah All right, but no, I mean we don't
think about it.
But time time is very importantin, especially in space travel,
especially when because thefaster we go, yeah, the more
time dilation occurs, right, sowhen we start going out in the
outer space, if you go out inthe outer space and you're on
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this really fast ship to go tothe moon or back and go to the
sun or back and go to theoutskirts of you could come back
and everybody here is dead.
Nathan Mum (12:00):
But you knew because it could be just hours and days
, because with you.
Mike Gorday (12:04):
You've only aged days.
It's like in Interstellar.
Yeah, there you go.
Nathan Mum (12:14):
Everything comes back to movies.
Alright, story number threeMeta says it will end
fact-checking.
As Silicon Valley prepares forTrump, meta says it's now going
to end fact checking.
Ceo Mark Zuckerberg announcedlast week that the social media
company, which owns Facebook andInstagram, would stop working
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with third party fact checkingorganizations, repeatedly taking
points long used by presidentelect Donald Trump and his
allies in a video.
Zuckerberg said the company'scontent moderation approach
resulted too often in censorship.
Zuckerberg said his view oncontent moderations have changed
.
He's getting older.
I guess Meta has made too manymistakes in how it applied its
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content policies, he said, andpointed Trump's election to a
second term as a culturaltipping point towards once again
prioritizing speech.
So now we're going to go backto our roots, he said, focusing
on reducing mistakes,simplifying our process and
restoring free expression on ourplatforms.
Zuckerberg is among the techtitans who have traveled to
Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trumpsince the election, and Meta
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donated a million dollars to hisinauguration fund, including
Amazon, apple and OpenAI.
Meta clearly perceives a greatdeal of political risk of being
targeted, and Zuckerbergpresented the announcement and
timing of this to play into theRepublican audience.
Now this is also interesting.
Mike Gorday (13:41):
Yeah, I have a feeling this has to do more
about like things like blue skycoming into the frame and taking
, so let's ask people away fromthese.
So guess what?
Nathan Mum (13:49):
they had an additional 1.3 million users
sign up after facebook made thisannouncements.
They are now the third largestsocial media platform out there,
with no advertising other thanpeople saying they're not going
to do this, they're not going todo this, and blue Sky says that
they will continue to usethird-party fact checkers.
Mike Gorday (14:08):
Yeah, well, you know.
So Zuckerberg and Elon.
Nathan Mum (14:12):
Musk are both going to use the same exact AI
technology on each of theirplatforms, so it will be unified
in how they distinguish betweenfact and fiction.
Yeah, whatever, does that makeyou feel safe?
Speaker 7 (14:26):
You know, no, no.
Mike Gorday (14:30):
I think they're choking and they're trying to
figure out how to not chokeanymore.
Marc Gregoire (14:34):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (14:35):
Because it's just going to turn into an S show.
Nathan Mum (14:41):
Yeah, okay, you're going to save Odie from the dump
button there.
Mike Gorday (14:44):
No, today I'll save her from the dump button there.
No, okay, today I'll save herfrom the dump button.
Nathan Mum (14:48):
Okay, all right, I think you have our last story.
What do we have coming up hereat?
Mike Gorday (14:51):
the very end.
Yeah, you gave me another AIstory.
Nathan Mum (14:55):
Oh, you love AI, right yeah.
Mike Gorday (14:56):
I love it.
Nathan Mum (14:57):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (15:09):
What do we?
Okay, grok, yeah, the aiassistant for x, which is baked
into x is now available as astandalone app, so you can now
use it just like you can now useit like, yeah, you can chat,
chat, gpt it.
Nathan Mum (15:15):
I use this last night.
Yeah, this is not a good, thisis not okay.
Keep on going, keep on going,okay, spoiler, sorry, spoiler.
Here we go, keep on going likethe on going.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
How is it that you're talking?
Smack about it.
Sorry, sorry, spoiler.
Here we go, keep on going.
Mike Gorday (15:26):
Like the version that exists as a tab on a social
media platform, the Grok appcan be used to generate images,
summarize text and answerquestions.
This time with a controversialtone the AI assistance creator
calls humorous and engaging.
The app was first tested with alimited set of users in
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December.
Just last year, right aroundthe same time, x debuted a free
tier of Grok that's available toeveryone.
Prior to that, you needed topay at least $8 a month for X
premium to have the privilege ofusing the AI.
The limitations of that freeaccess is 10 requests every 2
hours.
3 images analysis requests perday may also apply to the Grok
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app.
You can use the app withoutsigning in, or sign in with an
Apple account, x account, googleaccount or a plain old email.
It's not clear whether an Xpremium subscription gets you
added benefits in the Grok appin the same way it does X.
Same way it does X.
Grok has struggled with similarissues around accuracy and
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bizarre image generation choicesas other AI assistants like
Gemini and ChatGPT.
The chatbot mainly stands outfrom its competitors because XAI
pitched it as being able toanswer spicy questions other AI
assistants avoid, and theversion of Grok AI model is open
source, you'll have to see foryourself how spicy the grok app
ultimately is, but at least youdon't have to go to x to use it
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now.
Nathan Mum (16:52):
Okay, so wow see part of this.
So this, this app has?
No, they have.
They have no guardrails at allon this no kidding, I was
putting stuff in there, that isnot that is not PG-13 on the
radio type of deal and it wascoming out with the items and
then suggestion even of morespicier ideas to talk about.
Mike Gorday (17:18):
Yeah, yeah, no kidding.
Nathan Mum (17:20):
Yeah, there you go.
Mike Gorday (17:21):
What kind of expectations do we have for
somebody who has ripped and tornand doing the same thing, I
guess, as Zuckerberg is thinkingabout doing now?
Nathan Mum (17:33):
So I guess now we're going to have this AI app that
has some guardrails, which willprobably be OpenAI which is
funny, because I would not havethought that they would be the
ones with guardrails and thenthey're going to have all these
other apps, that kind of suckand so what they're going to do
is they're going to take off thelimits to again we kind of
talked about this to increasetheir audience.
Mike Gorday (17:51):
This is that really interesting argument about what
constitutes free speech andwhat doesn't, and I don't know I
hate it.
I think they're all Wow wow,wow, all right.
Nathan Mum (18:07):
Well, that ends our top technology stories of the
week.
Moving on Gwen Way is up withour gadgets and gear segment
with a product that is partOptimus stories of the week.
Moving on Gwen Wei is up withour gadgets and gear segment
with a product that is partOptimus Prime and part
relaxation.
What is it?
Gwen will share this on ournext segment.
You're listening to Tech Timewith Nathan Mumm.
See you after the commercialbreak.
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Nathan Mum (19:17):
Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts and we doit with a sense of humor, in
less than 60 minutes and, ofcourse, a little whiskey on the
side.
Today, mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey god of sewer, is back
and he has the first monthtradition gone to come back to
do what we are doing, standardwise for our taste today.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
I was.
Nathan Mum (19:37):
Well, we were just trying to re-add the next
February.
You want to join us for?
Didn't you like last week's?
I mean, that was a lot ofalcohol, right.
Mike Gorday (19:44):
I was fine.
Okay, there you go.
You drank more than I did.
Nathan Mum (19:47):
I did drink a lot.
All right, with our firstwhiskey tasting complete, let's
move on to our feed.
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa.
Marc Gregoire (19:53):
Mark, what are we tasting?
We're here drinking today,sagamore Spirits Double Oak Rye
Whiskey.
Now from Sagamore Spirits'website.
What they say is, after agingtheir straight rye whiskey for
four to five years in high-charNew American oak barrels, the
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distillers transfer the agedwhiskeys into toasted wave stave
barrels for an additional 18months.
This increased service area ofthe low char, medium plus toast
stays imparts double oaks,delightful caramel, toffee
hazelnut and toasted coconut.
Classic maryland style ryewhiskey is reimagined through
the innovative aging process andthen proof with limestone
filtered water from their springhouse built in 1909.
(20:36):
The final spirit is a shiningexample of old meeting new.
So on the palate, they say, youget smooth caramel, rich
toasted coconut, nutty flavor ofhazelnut and pecan melded pecan
, pecan pecan.
Melded perfectly with vanillaand caramel All right.
Tomato tomato, Tomato tomato,All right Okay.
Nathan Mum (20:58):
Well, thank you so much Well.
I already moved.
Is this on your shelf at home?
Marc Gregoire (21:04):
Oh, I can't answer that I'll tell later.
Mike Gorday (21:06):
Why are you asking questions like that?
Marc Gregoire (21:08):
I'm just kind of curious.
Okay, all right, well okay, Nowthis is from Serona Holding,
who owns Sagamore Spirits.
It's distilled in Indiana,which means it's MGP juice, but
it's aged at Sagamore Spirits attheir place in Maryland.
It's a straight rye, four tofive years.
It is 96.6 proof.
(21:29):
It's a blend of high and lowrye, mash bills um, and its
price is 64.
Nathan Mum (21:36):
Okay so it's a standard price, is it?
Anything under 70 is kind oflike standard price.
Right, 70 to 50, is thatstandard?
Mike Gorday (21:45):
that sounds more like the the nathan, the nathan
line of cheapness.
Nathan Mum (21:50):
Well, Well, so hang on.
So I have 75 to like 50 is kindof like the Nathan Premier.
And then you got the 50 to like35.
That's like the mid-level.
And then you got the 35 under,which is the Nathan cheap level.
Which is the Nathan.
That's the one I share with myguests that come on over.
Marc Gregoire (22:09):
I give you the no Average price of whiskey for a
person.
It depends on what a person canafford and what they like.
Okay, just like the bestwhiskey is the whiskey that's
currently in your glass.
Oh, there you go.
Nathan Mum (22:19):
All right.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Don't forget to like and subscribe out there.
Marc Gregoire (22:22):
In addition, please comment.
Let us know if there's awhiskey you want us to review.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
What's new in our gadgets?
Marc Gregoire (22:27):
Oh, wow.
Nathan Mum (22:28):
Odie's Wow, all right, I'm done.
Marc Gregoire (22:31):
Heaven single weight, so drink responsibly.
Bye.
Mike Gorday (22:35):
Thank you, Gwen.
You just got the equivalent ofa finger wave.
Nathan Mum (22:40):
Odie was like uh-oh, let's move on, All right.
Well, with our first whiskeytasting completed, let's move on
to our feature segment.
Today we have Gwen Wei joiningthe show.
She's an expert incybersecurity during the day and
a game board geek in theevening, as well as our producer
of Tech Time Radio.
But of course, we know her asour Gadgets and Gear gal.
Let's get ready to start ourComcast video stream for our
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next segment, Gadgets and Gear.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
What's new in our Gadgets and Gear.
Nathan Mum (23:08):
All right, Gwen.
Welcome back to the show.
Now for all the new listeners,tell us a little bit about
yourself.
Gwen Way (23:16):
Certainly, I am a person who spent the last
quarter of a century I'm justleaning into it now working in
technology.
Right now, my focus is incybersecurity.
Nathan Mum (23:29):
Okay, cybersecurity, and you just got your company
you worked for just got acquired.
Is that correct?
Gwen Way (23:34):
Yep, we had a big merger.
There's a lot of bigannouncements, so if anybody is
so inclined, go take a look atwhat WatchGuard has been up to
for the last week.
Nathan Mum (23:45):
All right.
So she's saying she's nowworking for WatchGuard.
That's good.
You know what?
I think?
Watchguard is a company.
We use them.
We use their firewalls prettyextensively and I like their
products, so I would trust theircybersecurity much better than
FireEye or any of those otherones out there that say that
they're great and they're not.
So there you go, a little plugfor your company there.
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All right, gwen, but let's talka little bit about this gadget
again.
Now let me just tell you I uh,up front, I have ordered already
one of these chairs and I'm onthe fence between the second
chair.
So, uh, tell us what this is.
What's cool about this?
Cause this really got meexcited and and to the point
where I probably did way moreresearch than I have in any
(24:30):
gadgets and gear segment in thelast couple of years.
Gwen Way (24:33):
I mean, this is a great one.
This is one that everybody, nomatter how geeky or how
non-geeky you are, can enjoy.
The name of the product is theNeutral spelled N-E-W-T-R-A-L
Freedom X Multi-position chair.
I love that you talked aboutthe transformers earlier,
(24:54):
because this chair genuinelytransforms and you're able to
sit in it multiple differentways.
Don't know about the listeners,but as a kid, I used to sit
backwards in my chair all thetime and kind of lean forward
and read a book.
Well, this chair lets you dothat with your laptop, so that's
a good thing.
Nathan Mum (25:15):
All right, so this, so this is available on
Kickstarter, right?
So what is the name of this?
Again, so everybody can getthis on the radio.
Gwen Way (25:23):
It's neutral.
Spelled N E W T R A L freedom Xmulti-position chair.
It's actually from a companythat has been around for quite a
while.
They do fairly standard gamingchairs as well, but this is a
new offering that they'rethrowing up on Kickstarter.
Nathan Mum (25:43):
Okay, now tell us a little bit about what makes this
chair special, besides kind ofwhat you told about backwards.
What else makes this chairspecial?
How much is this unit, and arethere more than one type of
chair for this?
About backwards what else makesthis chair special?
How much is this unit, and arethere more than one type of
chair?
Gwen Way (25:56):
for this?
Certainly, certainly.
So.
The thing that makes this themost special is that you can
actually change how your chairfunctions and how you sit in it.
Rather than the normal armsthat just lift up, these will
actually fall out so that youcan sit cross-legged in the
chair.
If you've got a dog or a catwho just really wants to be
(26:19):
glued to your side, you can pushone arm down and they can
actually sit in that, or you cankind of lounge on it if you
want.
It's all kinds of positions,and I have a feeling that if you
get this chair, you can findthe one that's right for you.
Nathan Mum (26:35):
So so there were yeah, yeah, I absolutely so the
side part.
So I'm a weird guy, cause Iactually like sleep sitting yes,
you are, so I, so I sleepsitting up.
So I'm looking at this likethis can be like multifunction.
It looks like your bed.
This could be like yourlounging chair.
I was looking at this beinglike, ah, this is so awesome.
(26:56):
There's like a deals on theside, and my big concern is I'm
a little bit of a heavier guyand so I checked it out and I
know that when we were talkingabout this for the show, I was
worried that if I started toopen up and these transformer
arms on the left and right andmade this kind of into the couch
format, that I would break it.
So what is the weightrequirements that they have for
(27:17):
a chair like this?
Gwen Way (27:19):
They have tested this chair up to 330 pounds.
Nathan Mum (27:24):
Okay, so 300 plus pounds, yep, so I mean, so
you're good, I'm good, I'm righton that, I'm right on that.
Marc Gregoire (27:31):
Right on the cusp .
You can't just fold the cusp,you can't just fold it out, and
we can't sit together though uhwell exactly only one at a time
for right
Nathan Mum (27:38):
now, but if I buy two of them, so tell us what
type of?
There's two different type ofselections here, gwen.
What are the two differentoptions that you get on the
transformer chair?
Gwen Way (27:48):
so your two options are a vegan leather so pleather
and a stain-resistant fabric.
Right now there's still somesuper early bird of the vegan
leather available.
Nathan Mum (28:02):
How much are those going for?
Gwen Way (28:03):
You can get those for $199, which is phenomenal.
Nathan Mum (28:07):
That's a steal of a deal.
Most gaming chairs are like$300, the decent ones.
Gwen Way (28:13):
Exactly exactly.
Most gaming chairs are like 300bucks, the decent ones, exactly
exactly uh.
Unfortunately, all the superearly birds for the fabric are
done.
But oh nice, well done, because, yeah, at this point, with the
actual uh fabric chair, youwould end up paying 259, which
is still a steal.
Nathan Mum (28:32):
Still a good price.
It's still a good price.
I got in just lucky enough lastnight, just in time, so I was
ready to go before they changedit on over.
All right, so now, where's thiscompany located?
Because that's always aquestion, right?
What I'm really happy about isthis is like a legit company.
Where are they located at, andtell us a little bit more about
(28:52):
the company backing this?
Gwen Way (28:54):
They are located out of Massachusetts, gore, maine.
Like I said earlier, neutralhas been on the net selling
chairs for quite some time.
You can actually go to theirwebsite and order some of their
older chairs, which are justkind of the standard gaming
chairs.
You can also order a couple ofother things, like a desk that
(29:19):
you can lock onto the gamingchair's arm so that you can work
on your laptop pretty muchwherever you can roll the chair.
Nathan Mum (29:27):
Okay, all right, All right.
Now the biggest question.
I said I got one I'm so excitedabout this.
Mike Gorday (29:33):
I don't think anybody's surprised by that.
Nathan Mum (29:35):
Well, did you get one yet, mike?
No, you need to get thepleather one, but I never knew.
Mike Gorday (29:40):
What does that mean ?
The vegan leather that's a niceway.
Why do I need?
Nathan Mum (29:43):
to get the pleather one?
Well, because you need to havethe.
This is the chair.
Mike Gorday (29:47):
Is that what you're saying.
Wow, I didn't say that.
Nathan Mum (29:53):
I just said that you need to make sure you get a
chair here.
So, gwen, did you get one?
That's the question.
Gwen Way (29:58):
No, I did not get one, I got two.
Nathan Mum (30:01):
Oh, did you get two of the fabrics?
Yep, oh, maybe you were thelast person.
One for each of us.
There you go.
Gwen Way (30:07):
That's possible.
It it's either you or me,Nathan.
Nathan Mum (30:09):
There you go.
We got the last of that.
We smashed those up there yougo.
Well, I see how you guys roll.
Marc Gregoire (30:13):
You take the last of them and then you talk about
it on the radio after Well thatway, more people then finance
it, so that we make it evenbetter.
Nathan Mum (30:21):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (30:23):
Nathan is the reason Kickstarter is still
going, because he buyseverything.
So I did.
Nathan Mum (30:34):
You remember the Lou , the Lou L-O-O-I that you had
about.
I just got mine in the mail, soI'm excited to open this up.
Marc Gregoire (30:37):
I have not opened this up.
Is that one where you finallyget a friend?
No, I haven't.
Mike Gorday (30:41):
That's a little desktop one that runs around.
Yeah, that's a little desktopthat goes back and forth, and
then it smiles and it gives youa mini-me.
Nathan Mum (30:49):
I have the Luma.
L seems to be the name forrobots, so I got the Luma in my
office here too, so you know Ienjoy it.
Mike Gorday (30:57):
Do you do anything with it?
Yeah, or do you just sit on thecharging station looking sad?
Nathan Mum (31:02):
No, no, no, I walk around with it and I shake hands
, and then it does likefireworks and it'll follow me
around, and then I'll ignore itfor a while.
And then I'll ignore it for awhile and then I kick it in the
head and then it starts yelpingat me, just like every other pet
I have Never mind.
Marc Gregoire (31:18):
That gave me trouble.
Do you put little clothes?
I do.
Mike Gorday (31:24):
I don't know if we want to get any deeper in the
secret life of Nathan, butthanks.
Nathan Mum (31:26):
All right, gwen, thank you so much for coming on
the show.
I can't wait to see what youhave now.
Next week's show you're goingto have to tune into because we
got CES and there is so muchgadget stuff there that we're
going to be talking about.
There are some crazy things.
They got animated robots thatsit in your purse.
They have this.
We're going to be talking aboutthe best of the best and the
(31:46):
weirdest, so we're going to dothe best of the best first and
then the weirdest.
Gwen Way (31:51):
I kind of think the weirdest is actually more
intriguing now that I'm gettinginto, so you're going to
definitely want to make sure youturn into that tell oh, I will
be here tell everybody, uh,where they can learn more
information about you if theywanted to connect with you and
talk with you directly certainlythe easiest and quickest way to
connect with me is to hop on toeither facebook and join the
(32:12):
Tech Timers Facebook group.
Mike Gorday (32:13):
There you go.
Gwen Way (32:14):
Or just go to techtimeradiocom.
Nathan Mum (32:17):
There you go.
That works out perfectly.
That's the best place.
That's the best place.
I agree too.
It really is.
Gwen, thank you so much forcoming on the show.
It's always a pleasure to haveyou with your new gadgets.
Bye, gwen, thank you so much.
Bye, thank you so much.
All right, we want to thankGwen for being a part of the
show and I can't wait forward tonext month's gadget.
But that ends our gadgets andgear segment up.
(32:38):
Next we have, of course, mike'smesmerizing moment.
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
All right, mr Gordy, speakingabout clocks in your segment
that you did earlier, this hasme really thinking.
Why are clocks and tickingnoises of clocks considered
(33:03):
soothing to?
Mike Gorday (33:04):
people what.
What do you mean?
Nathan Mum (33:08):
soothing.
Well, it's known that clocksare used to help relax people.
The metrodome sound of thetick-tock tick-tock helps relax
people, so I'm just why isclocks considered soothing to
people?
Mike Gorday (33:23):
Well, I think it depends on the type of clock
Okay, because if you're talkingabout, like, the 60-minute
stopwatch, it's like tick, tick,tick, tick, tick.
That's usually associated morewith anxiety and stuff like that
.
But if you're talking about theswinging arm of the old
grandfather clock that probablynot too many people know about
these days, that can beconsidered soothing because
(33:47):
there's a phenomenon thathappens where it's called
entrainment Okay, phenomenonthat happens where it's called
entrainment Okay, where ourbrain brain waves synchronize
with the metronomics sound ofthe, the ticks.
So if it's a slow tickingphenomenon but clock like a
swing arm clock, it could slowyour brain waves down so that
(34:11):
you're actually calmer.
Nathan Mum (34:13):
Okay.
Yeah, I'm not talking about adigital clock, right?
So, like our digital clock upthere, that's not going to give
you anything but clocks in.
Mike Gorday (34:18):
America are mostly associated with anxiety nowadays
.
Nathan Mum (34:21):
Are they really.
Mike Gorday (34:22):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, we're always, we'revery time-oriented and
everything has to be fast andeverything has to be.
You have to be on time andyou're always rushing and
there's always like this,fighting as the clock.
So clocks in general areassociated more with anxiety.
Nathan Mum (34:41):
Than soothing.
Okay, yeah, okay.
Well, there you go.
All right, mike, thanks forthat mesmerizing moment.
Up next we have this Week inTechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so.
During the break, you'relistening to Tech Time Radio
with Nathan Mumm.
See you in a few minutes, hey,mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Mike Gorday (34:57):
Hey, so you know what like our show if you really
like us, we could use yoursupport on Patreoncom.
I think it's Patreon.
If you really like us, you canlike us on.
Patreoncom.
I butcher the English language.
Nathan Mum (35:16):
You know you butcher the English language all the
time it's.
Patreoncom.
Patreoncom.
Mike Gorday (35:22):
If you really like our show, you can subscribe to
Patreoncom and help us out andyou can visit us on that
Facebook platform.
Nathan Mum (35:29):
You know, the one that Zuckerberg owns, the one
that we always bag on.
Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
Tech Time Radio.
Mike Gorday (35:38):
At Tech.
Nathan Mum (35:38):
Time Radio.
You know what.
Mike Gorday (35:41):
There's a trend here.
It seems to be that there's atrend, and that's Tech Time
Radio, or you can even Instagramwith us and that's at Tech Time
Radio.
Nathan Mum (35:48):
That's at Tech Time Radio.
Or you can find us on TikTokand it's Tech Time Radio.
It's at Tech Time Radio.
Mike Gorday (35:53):
Like and subscribe to our social media Like us
today we need you to like us.
Like us and subscribe.
Nathan Mum (35:59):
That's it.
That's it.
It's that simple.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And and now let's look back at this week in
technology.
Nathan Mum (36:08):
All right, we're going back to January 17th 1984.
The Supreme Court ruling onhome VCR recordings comes out.
The US Supreme Court.
What is Gregoire doing over thecorner?
Mike Gorday (36:19):
He's like trying to get out of the picture frame.
Nathan Mum (36:20):
Is he trying to get out of the screen?
He's leaning up against thewall, yeah he's experiencing
studio, studio wall foam okay,the supreme court rules five to
four.
The private use home vcrs, thetape tv programs for later
viewing, does not violatefederal copyright laws.
This ruling opens the floodgatefor vcr sales, changing the
(36:41):
landscape of tv watching forever.
Now we wouldn't have, uh,digital video recorders.
The DVR system would not be inplace if this ruling would have
happened.
Right, because the idea of adigital video recording device
is that you record something towatch it later.
Now in the ruling, makingindividual copies of complete
television shows for purpose oftime shifting, which means you'd
(37:02):
watch it later, does notconstitute copyright
infringement but can instead bedefended as fair use.
The court also ruled that themanufacturers of home video
recording device, such as thetime, betamax and other vcrs
referred to as vtrs in the case,cannot be liable for
contributing to thisinfringement.
The case was a boon to the homevideo market.
(37:25):
It created an illegal safeharbor for this technology to
record.
Mike Gorday (37:29):
Yeah, except with the FBI warning that you had to
have all the time $50,000, fine.
Nathan Mum (37:35):
I would just remember so my early marriage,
my poor wife.
We would have to tape Star Trek, the Next Generation, and every
once in a while you would havethat power outage that would go
on and then all of a sudden yourVCR was no longer programmed,
because these were not easyrecording machines.
And I remember every once in awhile coming on home and we
would not have gotten thatepisode and you couldn't just
(37:56):
stream, you couldn't find itonline.
Mike Gorday (37:59):
You'd have to wait for a whole.
Today's technology is awesome.
Nathan Mum (38:01):
I know You'd have to wait for the whole rerun of
that episode and then recordeverything until that rerun came
back up to get that the daysbefore the internet were brutal.
Mike Gorday (38:11):
I know I don't know how he survived.
Nathan Mum (38:12):
Oh my gosh, that's right horrible that was this
week in technology.
Have you ever wanted to watchsome tech time history, with
over 220 plus weekly broadcastsspanning now on your six, a
video, podcast and bloginformation?
You can visit us attechtimeradiocom to watch our
older shows.
We're going to take acommercial break.
When we return, we have Mark'smobile whiskey reveal.
(38:33):
See you after the break.
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Speaker 1 (39:12):
The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's
Whiskey Mumble.
Nathan Mum (39:23):
You've got to admit, that is a cool intro.
Marc Gregoire (39:25):
I love it.
I love it, I sing every time.
Mike Gorday (39:28):
He's all relaxed now because he was hugging the
wall.
Mark doesn't deal with clocks,he deals with foam.
He cuddles foam.
Nathan Mum (39:38):
Just because you went and looked at the Grok AI
type of deal.
Mike Gorday (39:42):
I didn't look at it .
You were the one that spent howlong Tell us about our whiskey?
I didn't look at it.
Nathan Mum (39:44):
You were the one that spent how long, never mind,
tell us about our whiskey.
Marc Gregoire (39:49):
How about January 14th?
We've been dropping hintsthroughout the show today about
what today is.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Okay, what is today?
Marc Gregoire (39:56):
Gwen dropped a little bit and I continued it.
Mike Gorday (39:59):
What was that?
Why is that little doggybarking on the phone?
Nathan Mum (40:03):
Was that a dog barking it?
Mike Gorday (40:04):
was.
Nathan Mum (40:05):
What was that dog for?
Marc Gregoire (40:08):
It is National Dress Up your Pet Day.
What was that?
Was that a dog?
Nathan Mum (40:12):
barking.
It was, what was that dog?
For it is national meme day,national dress up your pet day.
Oh, so my robots are just in,you know what, I'm gonna take my
, my, my buddy robot right here,pat, and I'm gonna dress it up
there you go, celebrated bydress.
Marc Gregoire (40:22):
celebrate today by dressing up your furry family
member in comfortable petclothing.
Maybe even get matching outfits.
Mike Gorday (40:28):
Oh, you know I come from a very southern background
where dressing means a wholedifferent thing.
Okay, All right.
Nathan Mum (40:37):
Does it mean like food?
Is that what you mean?
Mike Gorday (40:39):
Yeah To have food with your dog Apple in the mouth
, kind of thing.
Marc Gregoire (40:43):
All right, now who's the devil I mean angel
responsible for this holiday?
Okay, national Dress Up yourPet Day was started in 2009 by
celebrity pets, lifestyle expertand animal behaviorist Colleen
Page.
Oh, okay, there you go.
Nathan Mum (40:59):
I don't have a clue who Colleen Page is, but okay,
thank you very much.
Mike Gorday (41:02):
Give one of those dog whisperer people on them
shows.
Is it On them?
Tv flicks oh TV.
Nathan Mum (41:09):
Can I record it on my VCR?
Probably Okay, all right.
Marc Gregoire (41:12):
All right, let's talk about Maryland.
Okay, now Maryland has a richwhiskey history, particularly as
a hub for rye whiskey, knownfor its smoother and slightly
sweet profile compared to thespicier style of Pennsylvania.
Now, prohibition devastated theindustry, but in recent years
(41:32):
Maryland has experienced revival, with craft distilleries such
as Sagamore Spirit reintroducingMaryland-style rye and
experimenting with new blends.
Now this resurgence, supportedby modern legislation, has
positioned Maryland as a keyplayer in the craft whiskey
movement, blending tradition andinnovation.
All right, now I really enjoySagamore Spirit Rise.
I love the cast strength intheir single barrels.
(41:54):
For this double oak it's likedressing up your pet Unnecessary
and takes away from the naturalcharm.
Oh, this whiskey is not for mypalate.
As soon as I leave here todayI'll be giving this bottle away.
Really, I am not a fan ofalmost any double oak whiskey as
it often overpowers theoriginal character with
excessive woodiness masking thebalance and complexity of the
(42:16):
spirit.
Curious if anyone here evengives this a thumbs up.
Mike Gorday (42:21):
I'm kind of on the fence right now I like the
second and third taste so far.
Marc Gregoire (42:26):
And here's the proof for me.
I didn't even pour myself anytoday.
Mike Gorday (42:29):
Oh, you didn't even pour it Clean glass.
Nathan Mum (42:32):
So it is kind of it does have a different taste and
it doesn't have a big bite,which I mean I don't like a big
bite, but then it kind of sticks.
The finish just doesn't go awayeither.
It's like lingering and stilllingering and still lingering.
Marc Gregoire (42:45):
So this one, I'm not going to say this is I
wouldn't I'm not a thumbs down,thumbs up like you guys, but I
wouldn't necessarily give this athumbs down, but it's not a
thumbs up for me.
It's a good whiskey, if youlike that type of flavor profile
Like.
This bottle is going to WhiskeyChris after it.
Mike Gorday (43:01):
He loves this bottle, that's too bad, because
I kind of like it too.
Marc Gregoire (43:06):
Well, you can go buy it at the store for $64.
Nathan Mum (43:10):
$64,.
There you go.
Well, whiskey and technologyare great pairings, just like
headlights and windshield wipers, both needed and required for a
vehicle, and if one is notworking, it is illegal, just
like our next segment.
Marc Gregoire (43:24):
I was hoping you were going to use seatbelt.
Mike Gorday (43:25):
All right, no, no.
Nathan Mum (43:29):
He has, he like reaches.
Let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week.
We are out of time.
Congratulations, you're afailure.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes, did I.
Nathan Mum (43:45):
Yes, alright.
Well, this kind of goes back tosome old 80s uh comedy flicks.
When we kind of think aboutthis, we're gonna be talking
about a failure that comes to usfrom a software company the
most of the public schooldistricts use now.
Power school hack exposedstudents, teachers data from k
through 12 districts, making iteasy to change an F into an A
(44:08):
War games All right.
Education software giantPowerSchool has confirmed it has
suffered a cybersecurityincident.
We call those hacks thatallowed a threat actor to steal
the personal information ofstudents and teachers from the
school districts that usePowerSchool SIS platform, which
is over 60 million students thatuse this and over 180 customers
(44:32):
worldwide.
This is 18,000.
Or 18,000, sorry, 18,000customers worldwide, so this is
in the 70% of all schooldistricts.
Use this software.
All right Now.
Powerschool is a cloud-basedsoftware solution provider for
the K through 12 schooldistricts.
It uses its platform to helpwith enrollment, communication,
(44:54):
attendance, staff management,learning systems, analytics,
finance and, of course, to helpkeep those grades on track.
And this is cybersecurityincident notification sent to
customers Tuesday afternoon.
Powerschool says they firstbecame aware of the breach on
December 28th 2024, after thePowerSchool SIS customer
information was stolen throughits PowerSource customer
(45:17):
platform.
Now PowerSchool SIS is astudent again information to
manage all the enrollment anditems that run your everyday
school.
After the investigation of theincident, it was determined that
threat actor gained access tothe portal using compromised
credentials and stole data usingan export data manager customer
support tool.
So in this tool they have anexport data.
(45:38):
The person got credentials fromsomebody, so they probably did
a phishing attempt, which wetalk about all the time to do
that, then got the login loggedin and they just went into
school after school after schooland just started exporting the
data.
Should have been caught.
Something like that has totrigger in any software cloud
system that you have.
Should have triggered an alertby the time you do two or three
(46:00):
exports.
Microsoft is so good with this.
If you start using their Office365 suite and you start
exporting email, you startdeleting a bunch of email, you
start doing anything kind offishy, it will send alerts to
the admin saying, hey, you gotan issue going on.
But now PowerSource containsthat the maintenance access tool
that allows the access forengineers wasn't really the
(46:23):
issue, but it was thecredentials.
Using this tool, the attackerexported again all the
information into a CSV file,which is like an Excel file,
which was then stolen.
Marc Gregoire (46:32):
Did the company come out and say nothing
important was taken.
Well, yeah, we're going to getthere.
Nathan Mum (46:35):
Powerschool has confirmed that the stolen data
primarily contains contentdetails such as name and
addresses, so it's not a bigdeal, you don't have to worry
about it.
However, some districts saidthat it also included social
security numbers, personalidentifiable information,
medical information and, ofcourse, the grades.
So it depends on how much youuse it.
(46:56):
So I guess if you use it to itsfull extent, you're probably in
more jeopardy than if you justuse it as an ancillary product.
In response to the incident,the company engaged with a third
party cybersecurity experts,including CloudStrike, which is
not FireEye, so that's okay toinvestigate and mitigate the
incident, and an unusual,transparent FAQ allowed
accessible information tocustomers to know what was going
(47:17):
on.
Powerschool, though, hasconfirmed that this is not what
they considered a ransomwareattack, which is true because
they just stole the credentials,but they did pay a ransom to
prevent the data from beingreleased.
When asked how much was paid tothe threat actors, the comment
given the situation andsensitivity of the investigation
, we are unable to provideinformation on certain specifics
(47:40):
.
Quote unquote the company saidthey received a video showing
that the data was deleted.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, here you go.
Do you know how simple it is tohave two databases.
You copy one to one machine andyou videotape it, and then you
copy one to a USB drive and youhave it as another one.
Pretty freaking simple.
But they say that they have avideo that shows all the data
(48:00):
was deleted.
There's never 100% guaranteethat it was, but they believe
all of this will no longer beavailable and they are
monitoring the dark web todetermine if the data has been
leaked in the future.
All right, so what does no good?
So, as soon as that data comesback up on the dark web, what
are you going to say?
Unless they have an escrow, theonly thing I could think of is
(48:22):
they have an escrow over monthsthat they pay out additional
money that is released in anescrow fund on the dark web that
, based upon certain areas ofyou didn't have the data.
You didn't have the data, whichis probably what they
negotiated, but still, thatthat's just until certain things
need to be taken care of.
Run out power.
School says its operationsremain unaffected and services
(48:44):
continue as usual, despite thebreach.
Marc Gregoire (48:47):
So did they change their password?
I hope they did, I hope theywrote it on.
Mike Gorday (48:51):
They wrote it on a piece of paper.
It's a keyboard password.
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One, two, three, all right.
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This is your Nugget of the Week.
All right, welcome back to ourNugget Now 10 technologies that
disappeared in 2024.
Will you miss them?
As the saying goes, nothinglasts forever.
All right, so we're going to gothrough this list.
You're going to tell me,everybody here around the table,
if you're happy that we nolonger have these services, or
are you sad?
Are you good riddance, eventhat you didn't need these?
(49:52):
We'll start with number one,icq, the original messaging app.
It was popular in the late 90s,found memories of this before
AOL instant messenger.
Days before any of themessenger services that are
available, I had an ICQ number.
It was essentially a name and anumber that was associated with
your ICQ.
Are you sad that ICQ is gone?
Marc Gregoire (50:15):
I don't care.
You don't care.
All right, I thought they weregone before.
Nathan Mum (50:19):
Okay, all right, nody you probably.
Marc Gregoire (50:22):
What the hell is that?
Nathan Mum (50:24):
All right AMD Link, used by streamers to send video
from their graphic cards totheir smartphones, being
discontinued because there areother third-party options that
are available.
Amd Link had no idea this evenexisted.
Excited this is gone, or cancare less.
Marc Gregoire (50:40):
No, I don't care.
Nathan Mum (50:41):
I don't care Care less, care, less, care, less,
all right.
Number three Twitch Watch Party, a feature that allowed you to
watch Amazon Prime videos withyour friends.
Now that, since we arepost-pandemic lockdown, they are
no longer doing any updates andthis will be removed.
Yeah, I don't care.
You don't care.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
I kind of care.
Nathan Mum (51:01):
Yeah, I kind of I don't know why you're going to
get rid of this feature if youalready have it programmed in
your software.
Marc Gregoire (51:06):
We struggle enough with connections and
being in each other's lives.
Yeah, and that was a littlebenefit.
Yeah, it was a benefit.
Mike Gorday (51:13):
I tried watching a movie on this when we were in
the pandemic and there was atime differential, so what I was
viewing was a few minutes orseconds behind what they were
viewing and it was somebody whowas talking a lot about the
movie so she basically wasspoiling the show.
Nathan Mum (51:34):
Oh, that was a great special effect.
Oh, there it is.
Mike Gorday (51:37):
Okay, this sucks.
Marc Gregoire (51:39):
Technology gets better, so that was the infancy.
Mike Gorday (51:42):
That's the idea, right, you should.
Nathan Mum (51:45):
HoloLens.
This is the Microsoft product.
There's a lot of theseMicrosoft products.
The AR headset we talked abouta big splash.
It was the virtual reality set.
Way too expensive, way tooniche product.
Are you excited or could careless?
Hololens.
Marc Gregoire (51:57):
I don't care, I don't care.
Nathan Mum (51:59):
Don't care, don't care, all right, once promising
to take over MS Paint into thethird dimension, I wrote an
article we talked about thiseven celebrating its arrival.
It is now no longer availableand you still have just the
standard MS Paint.
Darn it.
Are you sad about that?
Yeah, I don't care, you don'tcare.
Marc Gregoire (52:20):
I'm glad it's gone.
Okay, I'm glad it's gone.
I started opening it up in 3DPaint and so, finally, I put my
default back to Paint.
Nathan Mum (52:28):
I like Paint better than 3D, yeah, ms Paint, just
leave it real basic.
If I need to use a real basiceditor.
For some graphics, MS Paintworks.
Mike Gorday (52:34):
Is it because they tried to make you use it?
Yeah, that's the issue.
See, they don't get it.
Nathan Mum (52:38):
Well, no, because it had other features and it had
other things and you just justwanted to do like he said, just
a, b and c, all right, and 3drefused it, all right.
Android on windows.
Windows subsystem for androidenabled windows 11 devices to
run android devices that are nolonger there.
I don't care, doesn't matter.
Marc Gregoire (52:58):
Okay, all right this is how.
This is how the microsoft.
Nathan Mum (53:01):
The microsoft's pretty good if they get rid of
this stuff.
If you guys don't care anymore,wordpad, the classic text
editing app that sat betweennotepad and word, is no longer
available.
Does that make a difference foryou guys?
Mike Gorday (53:14):
yeah, I care, this greatly saddens me and you know
I feel like I need to go homeand take a bath with with
lavender candles okay, I'll looka mic that it doesn't matter.
Marc Gregoire (53:25):
Wordpad actually is a big classic at yeah, but
Notepad does a great job, and ifyou want some more features,
get Notepad plus, plus plus.
Okay, all right.
Nathan Mum (53:34):
Chromecast.
After 100 million units sold,the TV streaming device is now
discontinued.
No, according to Google, smartTVs are now the norm and
Chromecast replacement is nolonger needed to have your TV
streaming experience.
Sad or not sad, I don't care.
I'm sad because I got eight ofthese devices.
What do I do with these deviceslaying around the house?
Mike Gorday (53:53):
You're going to pack them in a box, like you do
everything else that you own.
Nathan Mum (53:57):
And then bring it out 20 years from now.
Mike Gorday (53:59):
If anybody wants nostalgic stuff, they just need
to come to your place and theycan view.
It's like a museum out there ofancient tech.
Nathan Mum (54:06):
I'm working on a 386 computer because I have to
reload Windows 98.
Mike Gorday (54:10):
right now I'm working on a 386.
All right.
Nathan Mum (54:12):
VPN by Google.
Speaker 5 (54:14):
This was the VPN service that we talked about.
Nathan Mum (54:16):
Nobody cares.
This is where you can use a VPNfor Google, but Google gets all
the information that you get,nobody cares, all right.
Dvd physical media products.
Nobody cares, All right.
Dvd physical media products.
The Apple USB Super Drive is nolonger being produced After 16
years of production.
Apple's calling it quits onDVDs and CD drives.
Mike Gorday (54:32):
How are you going to just skip over DVDs?
Nathan Mum (54:37):
Well, dvds are still being done.
It's the USB, apple Super Drive, dvd and physical media
products.
As with the USB Super Drive, Icare about that one a lot Okay.
Marc Gregoire (54:47):
I don't have an Apple product, so I don't either
.
I was going to say Mike, youand I are Windows guys.
Nathan Mum (54:51):
All right, well, I'm sure glad you guys didn't care
about most of the stuff thatwent.
Marc Gregoire (54:54):
They're all gone.
Is that all 10?
Nathan Mum (54:57):
That is all 10.
All right, now let's move on toour pick of the day whiskey
tasting.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
And and.
Now our pick of the day for ourwhiskey tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Gregoire (55:12):
We are drinking Sagamore Spirits Double Rye Oak.
It is distilled in Indiana butaged in Maryland.
It is a straight rye four tofive years, 96.6 proof and $64.
Nathan Mum (55:25):
I'm actually going to give it a thumbs down why
it's just not that great.
Marc Gregoire (55:30):
So I had predicted Nathan thumbs down,
because a little everything getstoo woody and too tan for him,
he gives a thumbs down.
Mike tends to like the oakbombs, so I'm thinking it's a
thumbs up for Mike.
Mike Gorday (55:40):
Okay, aside from the initial rye burn, from the
initial taste, it was good, allright.
Nathan Mum (55:46):
Well, there you go.
You're getting pretty good atthat prediction, and Chris will
enjoy this.
Marc Gregoire (55:51):
He's looking forward to it, all right.
Nathan Mum (55:53):
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Let's start today's show.
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Now on today's show.
Nathan Mum (01:40):
All right.
On today's show we're going tobe talking about the top 10
technologies that vanished in2024.
I have a list of these, so theymay surprise you as well.
Others may be of interest toyou, some you might actually
miss.
We have deep space exploration,but guess what?
There's a piece of technologywe need to perfect how we
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explore space.
And just when you thinktechnology can't get more
intense, there's Meta's bolddecision to end fact-checking as
Silicon Valley braces for ashift.
Plus, we explore NVIDIA's trueidentity.
Are they just a company fortechnology, or are they now the
new leaders of AI?
In addition, of course, we haveour standard features, including
Mike's mesmerizing moment, ourtechnology fail of the week and
(02:25):
a possible Nathan Nugget.
Absolutely, I hope we get tothat today.
It should be pretty engaging.
And of course, our pick of theday whiskey tasting, to see if
our selected whiskey pick getszero, one or two thumbs up at
the end of the show.
So if you watched last week'sshow, we had four special
whiskeys that we did the veryfirst episode.
(02:46):
In each month we have kind ofthis battle of whiskeys that are
going on.
We're back to our standardtradition today of just one shot
of whiskey.
So hopefully our hosts and andso hosts will be able to keep
our speech in line instead ofslurring at the end of the show.
Last shows that us were prettyinteresting.
You should have seen me, I was.
(03:07):
I was a little tipsy but, let'snow move on.
Okay, let's move on to ourlatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mum (03:22):
All right Story Number one NVIDIA is a
technology company or is it anAI company?
Let's go to Crenn, Westland formore on the story.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Jensen Huang says NVIDIA is a technology company,
but it's really an AI company.
Huang opened up CES 2025 in LasVegas with a keynote that
packed the Michelob Ultra Arenain the Mandalay Bay Casino.
There was certainly a hugeportion of gamers who'd come to
see the latest RTX 50 seriescards in the flesh, but more
(03:52):
were there to see how a companyas lucrative as NVIDIA moves
forward.
Rtx and Project Digits drewhollers and shouts from the
crowd.
Is NVIDIA going to be able tokeep the momentum as the cool
processor company everyone wantsto use?
Only time will tell Back to youguys in the studio.
Nathan Mum (04:11):
All right.
So let's talk about this.
Nvidia, nvidia, nvidia.
They are the hot company or themost talked about company for
CES and we're going to have ourCES best of the best show next
week.
We're also going to have withthat, of course, our worst of
the worst, our crazy ideas andthe best ideas.
Mostly all of next week will beCES.
But let's talk about NVIDIA.
(04:32):
They did the keynote speechhere.
Um, nvidia is now saying thatthey're moving on to not only do
graphic processors but to doprocessors that will be working
in some of the largest companiesAI factories for AI.
It's really interesting thatNVIDIA has a real different
approach on how they're takingthemselves now, kind of becoming
(04:55):
the chip leader in the UnitedStates, and what they do is
they're going to focus on theircustomers.
Jensen Wong says that we aregoing to respond to our
customers wherever they are andwith whatever they need.
What's that going to be like?
So what he's trying to do is,instead of some of these
companies, these processorcompanies like if I needed help
(05:15):
with an Intel processor, do youthink if I call Intel or go to
intelcom, do you think I get anysupport from them?
Or AMD no, I get no support.
They tell me to go back towhoever I bought their processor
from, work with them to get arefund or work with them on an
issue, but they're not going todo anything.
Nvidia is saying that we'reactually going to do that, so
we're going to actually spendthe time and effort to talk to
(05:35):
each of our individuals that areusing us.
They actually opened up a wholebunch of open source
information.
They have some of the best AIscalers to upscale in games.
So if you have a game that youhave, you can actually use
NVIDIA's DLSS, which has beenaround for six years, to put a
(05:56):
game's graphics in there and itwill actually go through and
analyze it and increase thegraphics pre-done for your games
.
That are taken care of All opensource.
You don't have to pay somebodyto do additional work.
But NVIDvidia now is sayingthat they're not going to just
be uh in pc gamers high-endcards, that they're going to
move into the processing uhcomponent powers which we talked
(06:16):
about this a little bit.
Supercomputers were supposed tobe taken over the world now,
but supercomputers are stillbased on ones and zeros, whereas
Whereas NVIDIA's chipset is notbased on ones and zeros, it's
based on if and then statements,so they have a whole different
process.
That's like basic.
Well, like, if then?
So, if this happens, then thisif this happens, remember basic.
(06:37):
Yeah, and and and the, thecoprocessors for your
supercomputers are all based on,like the Intel models, which
are ones and zeros that it hasto process and break down.
So Nvidia is messaging.
That, they said, is that we aregoing to make tools for
researchers, scientists andstudents, that they're going to
be able to use our tools foranybody that stumbles across us
(06:59):
that either receives a $3,000 anhour for their service or a
dollar fifty and is living oninstant ramen.
Mike Gorday (07:08):
All of those are their customers yeah, I don't
know how they're going to dothat, because I have you ever.
Have you ever watched thediscord stream?
I have, yeah, some.
What are?
What are pc gamers doing like80 to 99.9 percent of the time
in a discord?
Well, they're alwayscomplaining they're whining
about something.
Nathan Mum (07:28):
Yeah, they're always their computer isn't so.
So what I find interesting isthey don't have a lack of skill.
It's always their computer thathas the lack of skill.
Yeah, when you get old.
When you get older, guess whatI just find out?
I just am not quick anymorewith my uh reflexes.
I play games all the time.
This, this Tetris battle that.
Mike Gorday (07:43):
I do no way.
Nathan Mum (07:45):
I'm not quick.
Are you admitting?
Yes, yeah, it's not my computer.
The computer is great, it's theold guy that's trying to move
the arrow keys up and down soyou don't get on Discord and
just whine at everybody, I donot and then get really nasty
reply comments.
Mike Gorday (07:58):
I do not.
Nathan Mum (07:59):
I'll tell you this I think NVIDIA, in the next five
to six years, they are going tobe the company that sets how AI
works.
I do Because they're going tobe the processors that
everybody's are using for AI,and I think they're going to
have some control on that.
Yeah, okay, well, okay,whatever.
All right, let's go to storynumber two.
Mike, what do you have forstory number two?
This sounds exciting.
Mike Gorday (08:20):
Well, I guess the question is if you want to
explore deep space, what is onething you'll need?
Nathan Mum (08:28):
To have.
Yeah, until we talked aboutthis article, I had no idea.
I didn't think this would be anissue.
Mike Gorday (08:35):
Yeah, but you would think well, I need a cool
spaceship, I need to have some.
Hydrogen for the engines, maybehydrogen, I don't know or
whatever whatever, I guessyou're flying blimps in this
space, okay, well, okay, uh, inorder for us to explore deep
(08:56):
space, people don't think aboutthis, but we're gonna need
better clocks.
Better clocks, explain that tome.
Well, let's harken back to theearly days of exploration in
1714.
The Crown of England ran acontest in search of a more
accurate clock that sailorscould use to navigate while at
(09:16):
sea.
Today, scientists are facing asimilar problem for outer space.
Every single day, we rely onhundreds of hidden clocks.
(09:39):
Okay, Okay, Clock drift okay.
And the speed at which theclock is moving can set these
clocks very slightly out of sync.
This phenomenon is called clockdrift.
Clock drift okay To control forit.
Gps clocks are set to check thetime and correct themselves
regularly.
But in outer space, criticalfunctions like communications
and navigation require evengreater clock accuracy, down to
(10:00):
a billionth of a second or more.
That's why atomic physicists atNASA want to build a more
precise, more autonomous atomicclock.
The team hopes a prototype willbe ready late this year to keep
a more accurate time.
So maybe NASA will change theway we measure our day, so going
back.
(10:22):
I'm going to get up at 8 a amand a billionth of two seconds.
Nathan Mum (10:29):
Okay, so like in, star trek or track, however you
want to start.
Yes, okay, let's talk aboutstar trek.
Okay, so they always use likestar dates, right?
So did they come up with?
Uh, so it sounds like they cameup with a way to do time star
date two, three seasons.
Mike Gorday (10:44):
So I'm just kind of curious if it never fails, that
you will take.
You will take this thing andrelate it to a fictional show
well, hang on, now they have wegot.
Nathan Mum (10:54):
We got leds that look just like they did on the
next generation the stardate isnot based on an earth, an
earth-centric thing it's basedon a a standardized like
galactic format.
Right, yeah, okay, that's thatbecause right now our clocks are
based on the sun right, whichis just specifically to our
(11:14):
world.
Mike Gorday (11:15):
That, yeah, circles around the sun well it, yes,
that's where it starts.
It starts with that 12 hourcycle of a day to night to day
to night.
But you know so, tatooine?
Nathan Mum (11:26):
isn't on ours.
Okay, here we got the star Warsreference.
Mike Gorday (11:30):
Okay, yeah All right, but no, I mean we don't
think about it.
But time time is very importantin, especially in space travel,
especially when because thefaster we go, yeah, the more
time dilation occurs, right, sowhen we start going out in the
outer space, if you go out inthe outer space and you're on
(11:52):
this really fast ship to go tothe moon or back and go to the
sun or back and go to theoutskirts of you could come back
and everybody here is dead.
Nathan Mum (12:00):
But you knew because it could be just hours and days
, because with you.
Mike Gorday (12:04):
You've only aged days.
It's like in Interstellar.
Yeah, there you go.
Nathan Mum (12:14):
Everything comes back to movies.
Alright, story number threeMeta says it will end
fact-checking.
As Silicon Valley prepares forTrump, meta says it's now going
to end fact checking.
Ceo Mark Zuckerberg announcedlast week that the social media
company, which owns Facebook andInstagram, would stop working
(12:35):
with third party fact checkingorganizations, repeatedly taking
points long used by presidentelect Donald Trump and his
allies in a video.
Zuckerberg said the company'scontent moderation approach
resulted too often in censorship.
Zuckerberg said his view oncontent moderations have changed
.
He's getting older.
I guess Meta has made too manymistakes in how it applied its
(12:58):
content policies, he said, andpointed Trump's election to a
second term as a culturaltipping point towards once again
prioritizing speech.
So now we're going to go backto our roots, he said, focusing
on reducing mistakes,simplifying our process and
restoring free expression on ourplatforms.
Zuckerberg is among the techtitans who have traveled to
Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trumpsince the election, and Meta
(13:22):
donated a million dollars to hisinauguration fund, including
Amazon, apple and OpenAI.
Meta clearly perceives a greatdeal of political risk of being
targeted, and Zuckerbergpresented the announcement and
timing of this to play into theRepublican audience.
Now this is also interesting.
Mike Gorday (13:41):
Yeah, I have a feeling this has to do more
about like things like blue skycoming into the frame and taking
, so let's ask people away fromthese.
So guess what?
Nathan Mum (13:49):
they had an additional 1.3 million users
sign up after facebook made thisannouncements.
They are now the third largestsocial media platform out there,
with no advertising other thanpeople saying they're not going
to do this, they're not going todo this, and blue Sky says that
they will continue to usethird-party fact checkers.
Mike Gorday (14:08):
Yeah, well, you know.
So Zuckerberg and Elon.
Nathan Mum (14:12):
Musk are both going to use the same exact AI
technology on each of theirplatforms, so it will be unified
in how they distinguish betweenfact and fiction.
Yeah, whatever, does that makeyou feel safe?
Speaker 7 (14:26):
You know, no, no.
Mike Gorday (14:30):
I think they're choking and they're trying to
figure out how to not chokeanymore.
Marc Gregoire (14:34):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (14:35):
Because it's just going to turn into an S show.
Nathan Mum (14:41):
Yeah, okay, you're going to save Odie from the dump
button there.
Mike Gorday (14:44):
No, today I'll save her from the dump button there.
No, okay, today I'll save herfrom the dump button.
Nathan Mum (14:48):
Okay, all right, I think you have our last story.
What do we have coming up hereat?
Mike Gorday (14:51):
the very end.
Yeah, you gave me another AIstory.
Nathan Mum (14:55):
Oh, you love AI, right yeah.
Mike Gorday (14:56):
I love it.
Nathan Mum (14:57):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (15:09):
What do we?
Okay, grok, yeah, the aiassistant for x, which is baked
into x is now available as astandalone app, so you can now
use it just like you can now useit like, yeah, you can chat,
chat, gpt it.
Nathan Mum (15:15):
I use this last night.
Yeah, this is not a good, thisis not okay.
Keep on going, keep on going,okay, spoiler, sorry, spoiler.
Here we go, keep on going likethe on going.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
How is it that you're talking?
Smack about it.
Sorry, sorry, spoiler.
Here we go, keep on going.
Mike Gorday (15:26):
Like the version that exists as a tab on a social
media platform, the Grok appcan be used to generate images,
summarize text and answerquestions.
This time with a controversialtone the AI assistance creator
calls humorous and engaging.
The app was first tested with alimited set of users in
(15:46):
December.
Just last year, right aroundthe same time, x debuted a free
tier of Grok that's available toeveryone.
Prior to that, you needed topay at least $8 a month for X
premium to have the privilege ofusing the AI.
The limitations of that freeaccess is 10 requests every 2
hours.
3 images analysis requests perday may also apply to the Grok
(16:07):
app.
You can use the app withoutsigning in, or sign in with an
Apple account, x account, googleaccount or a plain old email.
It's not clear whether an Xpremium subscription gets you
added benefits in the Grok appin the same way it does X.
Same way it does X.
Grok has struggled with similarissues around accuracy and
(16:29):
bizarre image generation choicesas other AI assistants like
Gemini and ChatGPT.
The chatbot mainly stands outfrom its competitors because XAI
pitched it as being able toanswer spicy questions other AI
assistants avoid, and theversion of Grok AI model is open
source, you'll have to see foryourself how spicy the grok app
ultimately is, but at least youdon't have to go to x to use it
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now.
Nathan Mum (16:52):
Okay, so wow see part of this.
So this, this app has?
No, they have.
They have no guardrails at allon this no kidding, I was
putting stuff in there, that isnot that is not PG-13 on the
radio type of deal and it wascoming out with the items and
then suggestion even of morespicier ideas to talk about.
Mike Gorday (17:18):
Yeah, yeah, no kidding.
Nathan Mum (17:20):
Yeah, there you go.
Mike Gorday (17:21):
What kind of expectations do we have for
somebody who has ripped and tornand doing the same thing, I
guess, as Zuckerberg is thinkingabout doing now?
Nathan Mum (17:33):
So I guess now we're going to have this AI app that
has some guardrails, which willprobably be OpenAI which is
funny, because I would not havethought that they would be the
ones with guardrails and thenthey're going to have all these
other apps, that kind of suckand so what they're going to do
is they're going to take off thelimits to again we kind of
talked about this to increasetheir audience.
Mike Gorday (17:51):
This is that really interesting argument about what
constitutes free speech andwhat doesn't, and I don't know I
hate it.
I think they're all Wow wow,wow, all right.
Nathan Mum (18:07):
Well, that ends our top technology stories of the
week.
Moving on Gwen Way is up withour gadgets and gear segment
with a product that is partOptimus stories of the week.
Moving on Gwen Wei is up withour gadgets and gear segment
with a product that is partOptimus Prime and part
relaxation.
What is it?
Gwen will share this on ournext segment.
You're listening to Tech Timewith Nathan Mumm.
See you after the commercialbreak.
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Nathan Mum (19:17):
Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts and we doit with a sense of humor, in
less than 60 minutes and, ofcourse, a little whiskey on the
side.
Today, mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey god of sewer, is back
and he has the first monthtradition gone to come back to
do what we are doing, standardwise for our taste today.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
I was.
Nathan Mum (19:37):
Well, we were just trying to re-add the next
February.
You want to join us for?
Didn't you like last week's?
I mean, that was a lot ofalcohol, right.
Mike Gorday (19:44):
I was fine.
Okay, there you go.
You drank more than I did.
Nathan Mum (19:47):
I did drink a lot.
All right, with our firstwhiskey tasting complete, let's
move on to our feed.
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa.
Marc Gregoire (19:53):
Mark, what are we tasting?
We're here drinking today,sagamore Spirits Double Oak Rye
Whiskey.
Now from Sagamore Spirits'website.
What they say is, after agingtheir straight rye whiskey for
four to five years in high-charNew American oak barrels, the
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distillers transfer the agedwhiskeys into toasted wave stave
barrels for an additional 18months.
This increased service area ofthe low char, medium plus toast
stays imparts double oaks,delightful caramel, toffee
hazelnut and toasted coconut.
Classic maryland style ryewhiskey is reimagined through
the innovative aging process andthen proof with limestone
filtered water from their springhouse built in 1909.
(20:36):
The final spirit is a shiningexample of old meeting new.
So on the palate, they say, youget smooth caramel, rich
toasted coconut, nutty flavor ofhazelnut and pecan melded pecan
, pecan pecan.
Melded perfectly with vanillaand caramel All right.
Tomato tomato, Tomato tomato,All right Okay.
Nathan Mum (20:58):
Well, thank you so much Well.
I already moved.
Is this on your shelf at home?
Marc Gregoire (21:04):
Oh, I can't answer that I'll tell later.
Mike Gorday (21:06):
Why are you asking questions like that?
Marc Gregoire (21:08):
I'm just kind of curious.
Okay, all right, well okay, Nowthis is from Serona Holding,
who owns Sagamore Spirits.
It's distilled in Indiana,which means it's MGP juice, but
it's aged at Sagamore Spirits attheir place in Maryland.
It's a straight rye, four tofive years.
It is 96.6 proof.
(21:29):
It's a blend of high and lowrye, mash bills um, and its
price is 64.
Nathan Mum (21:36):
Okay so it's a standard price, is it?
Anything under 70 is kind oflike standard price.
Right, 70 to 50, is thatstandard?
Mike Gorday (21:45):
that sounds more like the the nathan, the nathan
line of cheapness.
Nathan Mum (21:50):
Well, Well, so hang on.
So I have 75 to like 50 is kindof like the Nathan Premier.
And then you got the 50 to like35.
That's like the mid-level.
And then you got the 35 under,which is the Nathan cheap level.
Which is the Nathan.
That's the one I share with myguests that come on over.
Marc Gregoire (22:09):
I give you the no Average price of whiskey for a
person.
It depends on what a person canafford and what they like.
Okay, just like the bestwhiskey is the whiskey that's
currently in your glass.
Oh, there you go.
Nathan Mum (22:19):
All right.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Don't forget to like and subscribe out there.
Marc Gregoire (22:22):
In addition, please comment.
Let us know if there's awhiskey you want us to review.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
What's new in our gadgets?
Marc Gregoire (22:27):
Oh, wow.
Nathan Mum (22:28):
Odie's Wow, all right, I'm done.
Marc Gregoire (22:31):
Heaven single weight, so drink responsibly.
Bye.
Mike Gorday (22:35):
Thank you, Gwen.
You just got the equivalent ofa finger wave.
Nathan Mum (22:40):
Odie was like uh-oh, let's move on, All right.
Well, with our first whiskeytasting completed, let's move on
to our feature segment.
Today we have Gwen Wei joiningthe show.
She's an expert incybersecurity during the day and
a game board geek in theevening, as well as our producer
of Tech Time Radio.
But of course, we know her asour Gadgets and Gear gal.
Let's get ready to start ourComcast video stream for our
(23:01):
next segment, Gadgets and Gear.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
What's new in our Gadgets and Gear.
Nathan Mum (23:08):
All right, Gwen.
Welcome back to the show.
Now for all the new listeners,tell us a little bit about
yourself.
Gwen Way (23:16):
Certainly, I am a person who spent the last
quarter of a century I'm justleaning into it now working in
technology.
Right now, my focus is incybersecurity.
Nathan Mum (23:29):
Okay, cybersecurity, and you just got your company
you worked for just got acquired.
Is that correct?
Gwen Way (23:34):
Yep, we had a big merger.
There's a lot of bigannouncements, so if anybody is
so inclined, go take a look atwhat WatchGuard has been up to
for the last week.
Nathan Mum (23:45):
All right.
So she's saying she's nowworking for WatchGuard.
That's good.
You know what?
I think?
Watchguard is a company.
We use them.
We use their firewalls prettyextensively and I like their
products, so I would trust theircybersecurity much better than
FireEye or any of those otherones out there that say that
they're great and they're not.
So there you go, a little plugfor your company there.
(24:07):
All right, gwen, but let's talka little bit about this gadget
again.
Now let me just tell you I uh,up front, I have ordered already
one of these chairs and I'm onthe fence between the second
chair.
So, uh, tell us what this is.
What's cool about this?
Cause this really got meexcited and and to the point
where I probably did way moreresearch than I have in any
(24:30):
gadgets and gear segment in thelast couple of years.
Gwen Way (24:33):
I mean, this is a great one.
This is one that everybody, nomatter how geeky or how
non-geeky you are, can enjoy.
The name of the product is theNeutral spelled N-E-W-T-R-A-L
Freedom X Multi-position chair.
I love that you talked aboutthe transformers earlier,
(24:54):
because this chair genuinelytransforms and you're able to
sit in it multiple differentways.
Don't know about the listeners,but as a kid, I used to sit
backwards in my chair all thetime and kind of lean forward
and read a book.
Well, this chair lets you dothat with your laptop, so that's
a good thing.
Nathan Mum (25:15):
All right, so this, so this is available on
Kickstarter, right?
So what is the name of this?
Again, so everybody can getthis on the radio.
Gwen Way (25:23):
It's neutral.
Spelled N E W T R A L freedom Xmulti-position chair.
It's actually from a companythat has been around for quite a
while.
They do fairly standard gamingchairs as well, but this is a
new offering that they'rethrowing up on Kickstarter.
Nathan Mum (25:43):
Okay, now tell us a little bit about what makes this
chair special, besides kind ofwhat you told about backwards.
What else makes this chairspecial?
How much is this unit, and arethere more than one type of
chair for this?
About backwards what else makesthis chair special?
How much is this unit, and arethere more than one type of
chair?
Gwen Way (25:56):
for this?
Certainly, certainly.
So.
The thing that makes this themost special is that you can
actually change how your chairfunctions and how you sit in it.
Rather than the normal armsthat just lift up, these will
actually fall out so that youcan sit cross-legged in the
chair.
If you've got a dog or a catwho just really wants to be
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glued to your side, you can pushone arm down and they can
actually sit in that, or you cankind of lounge on it if you
want.
It's all kinds of positions,and I have a feeling that if you
get this chair, you can findthe one that's right for you.
Nathan Mum (26:35):
So so there were yeah, yeah, I absolutely so the
side part.
So I'm a weird guy, cause Iactually like sleep sitting yes,
you are, so I, so I sleepsitting up.
So I'm looking at this likethis can be like multifunction.
It looks like your bed.
This could be like yourlounging chair.
I was looking at this beinglike, ah, this is so awesome.
(26:56):
There's like a deals on theside, and my big concern is I'm
a little bit of a heavier guyand so I checked it out and I
know that when we were talkingabout this for the show, I was
worried that if I started toopen up and these transformer
arms on the left and right andmade this kind of into the couch
format, that I would break it.
So what is the weightrequirements that they have for
(27:17):
a chair like this?
Gwen Way (27:19):
They have tested this chair up to 330 pounds.
Nathan Mum (27:24):
Okay, so 300 plus pounds, yep, so I mean, so
you're good, I'm good, I'm righton that, I'm right on that.
Marc Gregoire (27:31):
Right on the cusp .
You can't just fold the cusp,you can't just fold it out, and
we can't sit together though uhwell exactly only one at a time
for right
Nathan Mum (27:38):
now, but if I buy two of them, so tell us what
type of?
There's two different type ofselections here, gwen.
What are the two differentoptions that you get on the
transformer chair?
Gwen Way (27:48):
so your two options are a vegan leather so pleather
and a stain-resistant fabric.
Right now there's still somesuper early bird of the vegan
leather available.
Nathan Mum (28:02):
How much are those going for?
Gwen Way (28:03):
You can get those for $199, which is phenomenal.
Nathan Mum (28:07):
That's a steal of a deal.
Most gaming chairs are like$300, the decent ones.
Gwen Way (28:13):
Exactly exactly.
Most gaming chairs are like 300bucks, the decent ones, exactly
exactly uh.
Unfortunately, all the superearly birds for the fabric are
done.
But oh nice, well done, because, yeah, at this point, with the
actual uh fabric chair, youwould end up paying 259, which
is still a steal.
Nathan Mum (28:32):
Still a good price.
It's still a good price.
I got in just lucky enough lastnight, just in time, so I was
ready to go before they changedit on over.
All right, so now, where's thiscompany located?
Because that's always aquestion, right?
What I'm really happy about isthis is like a legit company.
Where are they located at, andtell us a little bit more about
(28:52):
the company backing this?
Gwen Way (28:54):
They are located out of Massachusetts, gore, maine.
Like I said earlier, neutralhas been on the net selling
chairs for quite some time.
You can actually go to theirwebsite and order some of their
older chairs, which are justkind of the standard gaming
chairs.
You can also order a couple ofother things, like a desk that
(29:19):
you can lock onto the gamingchair's arm so that you can work
on your laptop pretty muchwherever you can roll the chair.
Nathan Mum (29:27):
Okay, all right, All right.
Now the biggest question.
I said I got one I'm so excitedabout this.
Mike Gorday (29:33):
I don't think anybody's surprised by that.
Nathan Mum (29:35):
Well, did you get one yet, mike?
No, you need to get thepleather one, but I never knew.
Mike Gorday (29:40):
What does that mean ?
The vegan leather that's a niceway.
Why do I need?
Nathan Mum (29:43):
to get the pleather one?
Well, because you need to havethe.
This is the chair.
Mike Gorday (29:47):
Is that what you're saying.
Wow, I didn't say that.
Nathan Mum (29:53):
I just said that you need to make sure you get a
chair here.
So, gwen, did you get one?
That's the question.
Gwen Way (29:58):
No, I did not get one, I got two.
Nathan Mum (30:01):
Oh, did you get two of the fabrics?
Yep, oh, maybe you were thelast person.
One for each of us.
There you go.
Gwen Way (30:07):
That's possible.
It it's either you or me,Nathan.
Nathan Mum (30:09):
There you go.
We got the last of that.
We smashed those up there yougo.
Well, I see how you guys roll.
Marc Gregoire (30:13):
You take the last of them and then you talk about
it on the radio after Well thatway, more people then finance
it, so that we make it evenbetter.
Nathan Mum (30:21):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (30:23):
Nathan is the reason Kickstarter is still
going, because he buyseverything.
So I did.
Nathan Mum (30:34):
You remember the Lou , the Lou L-O-O-I that you had
about.
I just got mine in the mail, soI'm excited to open this up.
Marc Gregoire (30:37):
I have not opened this up.
Is that one where you finallyget a friend?
No, I haven't.
Mike Gorday (30:41):
That's a little desktop one that runs around.
Yeah, that's a little desktopthat goes back and forth, and
then it smiles and it gives youa mini-me.
Nathan Mum (30:49):
I have the Luma.
L seems to be the name forrobots, so I got the Luma in my
office here too, so you know Ienjoy it.
Mike Gorday (30:57):
Do you do anything with it?
Yeah, or do you just sit on thecharging station looking sad?
Nathan Mum (31:02):
No, no, no, I walk around with it and I shake hands
, and then it does likefireworks and it'll follow me
around, and then I'll ignore itfor a while.
And then I'll ignore it for awhile and then I kick it in the
head and then it starts yelpingat me, just like every other pet
I have Never mind.
Marc Gregoire (31:18):
That gave me trouble.
Do you put little clothes?
I do.
Mike Gorday (31:24):
I don't know if we want to get any deeper in the
secret life of Nathan, butthanks.
Nathan Mum (31:26):
All right, gwen, thank you so much for coming on
the show.
I can't wait to see what youhave now.
Next week's show you're goingto have to tune into because we
got CES and there is so muchgadget stuff there that we're
going to be talking about.
There are some crazy things.
They got animated robots thatsit in your purse.
They have this.
We're going to be talking aboutthe best of the best and the
(31:46):
weirdest, so we're going to dothe best of the best first and
then the weirdest.
Gwen Way (31:51):
I kind of think the weirdest is actually more
intriguing now that I'm gettinginto, so you're going to
definitely want to make sure youturn into that tell oh, I will
be here tell everybody, uh,where they can learn more
information about you if theywanted to connect with you and
talk with you directly certainlythe easiest and quickest way to
connect with me is to hop on toeither facebook and join the
(32:12):
Tech Timers Facebook group.
Mike Gorday (32:13):
There you go.
Gwen Way (32:14):
Or just go to techtimeradiocom.
Nathan Mum (32:17):
There you go.
That works out perfectly.
That's the best place.
That's the best place.
I agree too.
It really is.
Gwen, thank you so much forcoming on the show.
It's always a pleasure to haveyou with your new gadgets.
Bye, gwen, thank you so much.
Bye, thank you so much.
All right, we want to thankGwen for being a part of the
show and I can't wait forward tonext month's gadget.
But that ends our gadgets andgear segment up.
(32:38):
Next we have, of course, mike'smesmerizing moment.
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
All right, mr Gordy, speakingabout clocks in your segment
that you did earlier, this hasme really thinking.
Why are clocks and tickingnoises of clocks considered
(33:03):
soothing to?
Mike Gorday (33:04):
people what.
What do you mean?
Nathan Mum (33:08):
soothing.
Well, it's known that clocksare used to help relax people.
The metrodome sound of thetick-tock tick-tock helps relax
people, so I'm just why isclocks considered soothing to
people?
Mike Gorday (33:23):
Well, I think it depends on the type of clock
Okay, because if you're talkingabout, like, the 60-minute
stopwatch, it's like tick, tick,tick, tick, tick.
That's usually associated morewith anxiety and stuff like that
.
But if you're talking about theswinging arm of the old
grandfather clock that probablynot too many people know about
these days, that can beconsidered soothing because
(33:47):
there's a phenomenon thathappens where it's called
entrainment Okay, phenomenonthat happens where it's called
entrainment Okay, where ourbrain brain waves synchronize
with the metronomics sound ofthe, the ticks.
So if it's a slow tickingphenomenon but clock like a
swing arm clock, it could slowyour brain waves down so that
(34:11):
you're actually calmer.
Nathan Mum (34:13):
Okay.
Yeah, I'm not talking about adigital clock, right?
So, like our digital clock upthere, that's not going to give
you anything but clocks in.
Mike Gorday (34:18):
America are mostly associated with anxiety nowadays
.
Nathan Mum (34:21):
Are they really.
Mike Gorday (34:22):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, we're always, we'revery time-oriented and
everything has to be fast andeverything has to be.
You have to be on time andyou're always rushing and
there's always like this,fighting as the clock.
So clocks in general areassociated more with anxiety.
Nathan Mum (34:41):
Than soothing.
Okay, yeah, okay.
Well, there you go.
All right, mike, thanks forthat mesmerizing moment.
Up next we have this Week inTechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so.
During the break, you'relistening to Tech Time Radio
with Nathan Mumm.
See you in a few minutes, hey,mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Mike Gorday (34:57):
Hey, so you know what like our show if you really
like us, we could use yoursupport on Patreoncom.
I think it's Patreon.
If you really like us, you canlike us on.
Patreoncom.
I butcher the English language.
Nathan Mum (35:16):
You know you butcher the English language all the
time it's.
Patreoncom.
Patreoncom.
Mike Gorday (35:22):
If you really like our show, you can subscribe to
Patreoncom and help us out andyou can visit us on that
Facebook platform.
Nathan Mum (35:29):
You know, the one that Zuckerberg owns, the one
that we always bag on.
Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
Tech Time Radio.
Mike Gorday (35:38):
At Tech.
Nathan Mum (35:38):
Time Radio.
You know what.
Mike Gorday (35:41):
There's a trend here.
It seems to be that there's atrend, and that's Tech Time
Radio, or you can even Instagramwith us and that's at Tech Time
Radio.
Nathan Mum (35:48):
That's at Tech Time Radio.
Or you can find us on TikTokand it's Tech Time Radio.
It's at Tech Time Radio.
Mike Gorday (35:53):
Like and subscribe to our social media Like us
today we need you to like us.
Like us and subscribe.
Nathan Mum (35:59):
That's it.
That's it.
It's that simple.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And and now let's look back at this week in
technology.
Nathan Mum (36:08):
All right, we're going back to January 17th 1984.
The Supreme Court ruling onhome VCR recordings comes out.
The US Supreme Court.
What is Gregoire doing over thecorner?
Mike Gorday (36:19):
He's like trying to get out of the picture frame.
Nathan Mum (36:20):
Is he trying to get out of the screen?
He's leaning up against thewall, yeah he's experiencing
studio, studio wall foam okay,the supreme court rules five to
four.
The private use home vcrs, thetape tv programs for later
viewing, does not violatefederal copyright laws.
This ruling opens the floodgatefor vcr sales, changing the
(36:41):
landscape of tv watching forever.
Now we wouldn't have, uh,digital video recorders.
The DVR system would not be inplace if this ruling would have
happened.
Right, because the idea of adigital video recording device
is that you record something towatch it later.
Now in the ruling, makingindividual copies of complete
television shows for purpose oftime shifting, which means you'd
(37:02):
watch it later, does notconstitute copyright
infringement but can instead bedefended as fair use.
The court also ruled that themanufacturers of home video
recording device, such as thetime, betamax and other vcrs
referred to as vtrs in the case,cannot be liable for
contributing to thisinfringement.
The case was a boon to the homevideo market.
(37:25):
It created an illegal safeharbor for this technology to
record.
Mike Gorday (37:29):
Yeah, except with the FBI warning that you had to
have all the time $50,000, fine.
Nathan Mum (37:35):
I would just remember so my early marriage,
my poor wife.
We would have to tape Star Trek, the Next Generation, and every
once in a while you would havethat power outage that would go
on and then all of a sudden yourVCR was no longer programmed,
because these were not easyrecording machines.
And I remember every once in awhile coming on home and we
would not have gotten thatepisode and you couldn't just
(37:56):
stream, you couldn't find itonline.
Mike Gorday (37:59):
You'd have to wait for a whole.
Today's technology is awesome.
Nathan Mum (38:01):
I know You'd have to wait for the whole rerun of
that episode and then recordeverything until that rerun came
back up to get that the daysbefore the internet were brutal.
Mike Gorday (38:11):
I know I don't know how he survived.
Nathan Mum (38:12):
Oh my gosh, that's right horrible that was this
week in technology.
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When we return, we have Mark'smobile whiskey reveal.
(38:33):
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The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's
Whiskey Mumble.
Nathan Mum (39:23):
You've got to admit, that is a cool intro.
Marc Gregoire (39:25):
I love it.
I love it, I sing every time.
Mike Gorday (39:28):
He's all relaxed now because he was hugging the
wall.
Mark doesn't deal with clocks,he deals with foam.
He cuddles foam.
Nathan Mum (39:38):
Just because you went and looked at the Grok AI
type of deal.
Mike Gorday (39:42):
I didn't look at it .
You were the one that spent howlong Tell us about our whiskey?
I didn't look at it.
Nathan Mum (39:44):
You were the one that spent how long, never mind,
tell us about our whiskey.
Marc Gregoire (39:49):
How about January 14th?
We've been dropping hintsthroughout the show today about
what today is.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Okay, what is today?
Marc Gregoire (39:56):
Gwen dropped a little bit and I continued it.
Mike Gorday (39:59):
What was that?
Why is that little doggybarking on the phone?
Nathan Mum (40:03):
Was that a dog barking it?
Mike Gorday (40:04):
was.
Nathan Mum (40:05):
What was that dog for?
Marc Gregoire (40:08):
It is National Dress Up your Pet Day.
What was that?
Was that a dog?
Nathan Mum (40:12):
barking.
It was, what was that dog?
For it is national meme day,national dress up your pet day.
Oh, so my robots are just in,you know what, I'm gonna take my
, my, my buddy robot right here,pat, and I'm gonna dress it up
there you go, celebrated bydress.
Marc Gregoire (40:22):
celebrate today by dressing up your furry family
member in comfortable petclothing.
Maybe even get matching outfits.
Mike Gorday (40:28):
Oh, you know I come from a very southern background
where dressing means a wholedifferent thing.
Okay, All right.
Nathan Mum (40:37):
Does it mean like food?
Is that what you mean?
Mike Gorday (40:39):
Yeah To have food with your dog Apple in the mouth
, kind of thing.
Marc Gregoire (40:43):
All right, now who's the devil I mean angel
responsible for this holiday?
Okay, national Dress Up yourPet Day was started in 2009 by
celebrity pets, lifestyle expertand animal behaviorist Colleen
Page.
Oh, okay, there you go.
Nathan Mum (40:59):
I don't have a clue who Colleen Page is, but okay,
thank you very much.
Mike Gorday (41:02):
Give one of those dog whisperer people on them
shows.
Is it On them?
Tv flicks oh TV.
Nathan Mum (41:09):
Can I record it on my VCR?
Probably Okay, all right.
Marc Gregoire (41:12):
All right, let's talk about Maryland.
Okay, now Maryland has a richwhiskey history, particularly as
a hub for rye whiskey, knownfor its smoother and slightly
sweet profile compared to thespicier style of Pennsylvania.
Now, prohibition devastated theindustry, but in recent years
(41:32):
Maryland has experienced revival, with craft distilleries such
as Sagamore Spirit reintroducingMaryland-style rye and
experimenting with new blends.
Now this resurgence, supportedby modern legislation, has
positioned Maryland as a keyplayer in the craft whiskey
movement, blending tradition andinnovation.
All right, now I really enjoySagamore Spirit Rise.
I love the cast strength intheir single barrels.
(41:54):
For this double oak it's likedressing up your pet Unnecessary
and takes away from the naturalcharm.
Oh, this whiskey is not for mypalate.
As soon as I leave here todayI'll be giving this bottle away.
Really, I am not a fan ofalmost any double oak whiskey as
it often overpowers theoriginal character with
excessive woodiness masking thebalance and complexity of the
(42:16):
spirit.
Curious if anyone here evengives this a thumbs up.
Mike Gorday (42:21):
I'm kind of on the fence right now I like the
second and third taste so far.
Marc Gregoire (42:26):
And here's the proof for me.
I didn't even pour myself anytoday.
Mike Gorday (42:29):
Oh, you didn't even pour it Clean glass.
Nathan Mum (42:32):
So it is kind of it does have a different taste and
it doesn't have a big bite,which I mean I don't like a big
bite, but then it kind of sticks.
The finish just doesn't go awayeither.
It's like lingering and stilllingering and still lingering.
Marc Gregoire (42:45):
So this one, I'm not going to say this is I
wouldn't I'm not a thumbs down,thumbs up like you guys, but I
wouldn't necessarily give this athumbs down, but it's not a
thumbs up for me.
It's a good whiskey, if youlike that type of flavor profile
Like.
This bottle is going to WhiskeyChris after it.
Mike Gorday (43:01):
He loves this bottle, that's too bad, because
I kind of like it too.
Marc Gregoire (43:06):
Well, you can go buy it at the store for $64.
Nathan Mum (43:10):
$64,.
There you go.
Well, whiskey and technologyare great pairings, just like
headlights and windshield wipers, both needed and required for a
vehicle, and if one is notworking, it is illegal, just
like our next segment.
Marc Gregoire (43:24):
I was hoping you were going to use seatbelt.
Mike Gorday (43:25):
All right, no, no.
Nathan Mum (43:29):
He has, he like reaches.
Let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week.
We are out of time.
Congratulations, you're afailure.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes, did I.
Nathan Mum (43:45):
Yes, alright.
Well, this kind of goes back tosome old 80s uh comedy flicks.
When we kind of think aboutthis, we're gonna be talking
about a failure that comes to usfrom a software company the
most of the public schooldistricts use now.
Power school hack exposedstudents, teachers data from k
through 12 districts, making iteasy to change an F into an A
(44:08):
War games All right.
Education software giantPowerSchool has confirmed it has
suffered a cybersecurityincident.
We call those hacks thatallowed a threat actor to steal
the personal information ofstudents and teachers from the
school districts that usePowerSchool SIS platform, which
is over 60 million students thatuse this and over 180 customers
(44:32):
worldwide.
This is 18,000.
Or 18,000, sorry, 18,000customers worldwide, so this is
in the 70% of all schooldistricts.
Use this software.
All right Now.
Powerschool is a cloud-basedsoftware solution provider for
the K through 12 schooldistricts.
It uses its platform to helpwith enrollment, communication,
(44:54):
attendance, staff management,learning systems, analytics,
finance and, of course, to helpkeep those grades on track.
And this is cybersecurityincident notification sent to
customers Tuesday afternoon.
Powerschool says they firstbecame aware of the breach on
December 28th 2024, after thePowerSchool SIS customer
information was stolen throughits PowerSource customer
(45:17):
platform.
Now PowerSchool SIS is astudent again information to
manage all the enrollment anditems that run your everyday
school.
After the investigation of theincident, it was determined that
threat actor gained access tothe portal using compromised
credentials and stole data usingan export data manager customer
support tool.
So in this tool they have anexport data.
(45:38):
The person got credentials fromsomebody, so they probably did
a phishing attempt, which wetalk about all the time to do
that, then got the login loggedin and they just went into
school after school after schooland just started exporting the
data.
Should have been caught.
Something like that has totrigger in any software cloud
system that you have.
Should have triggered an alertby the time you do two or three
(46:00):
exports.
Microsoft is so good with this.
If you start using their Office365 suite and you start
exporting email, you startdeleting a bunch of email, you
start doing anything kind offishy, it will send alerts to
the admin saying, hey, you gotan issue going on.
But now PowerSource containsthat the maintenance access tool
that allows the access forengineers wasn't really the
(46:23):
issue, but it was thecredentials.
Using this tool, the attackerexported again all the
information into a CSV file,which is like an Excel file,
which was then stolen.
Marc Gregoire (46:32):
Did the company come out and say nothing
important was taken.
Well, yeah, we're going to getthere.
Nathan Mum (46:35):
Powerschool has confirmed that the stolen data
primarily contains contentdetails such as name and
addresses, so it's not a bigdeal, you don't have to worry
about it.
However, some districts saidthat it also included social
security numbers, personalidentifiable information,
medical information and, ofcourse, the grades.
So it depends on how much youuse it.
(46:56):
So I guess if you use it to itsfull extent, you're probably in
more jeopardy than if you justuse it as an ancillary product.
In response to the incident,the company engaged with a third
party cybersecurity experts,including CloudStrike, which is
not FireEye, so that's okay toinvestigate and mitigate the
incident, and an unusual,transparent FAQ allowed
accessible information tocustomers to know what was going
(47:17):
on.
Powerschool, though, hasconfirmed that this is not what
they considered a ransomwareattack, which is true because
they just stole the credentials,but they did pay a ransom to
prevent the data from beingreleased.
When asked how much was paid tothe threat actors, the comment
given the situation andsensitivity of the investigation
, we are unable to provideinformation on certain specifics
(47:40):
.
Quote unquote the company saidthey received a video showing
that the data was deleted.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, here you go.
Do you know how simple it is tohave two databases.
You copy one to one machine andyou videotape it, and then you
copy one to a USB drive and youhave it as another one.
Pretty freaking simple.
But they say that they have avideo that shows all the data
(48:00):
was deleted.
There's never 100% guaranteethat it was, but they believe
all of this will no longer beavailable and they are
monitoring the dark web todetermine if the data has been
leaked in the future.
All right, so what does no good?
So, as soon as that data comesback up on the dark web, what
are you going to say?
Unless they have an escrow, theonly thing I could think of is
(48:22):
they have an escrow over monthsthat they pay out additional
money that is released in anescrow fund on the dark web that
, based upon certain areas ofyou didn't have the data.
You didn't have the data, whichis probably what they
negotiated, but still, thatthat's just until certain things
need to be taken care of.
Run out power.
School says its operationsremain unaffected and services
(48:44):
continue as usual, despite thebreach.
Marc Gregoire (48:47):
So did they change their password?
I hope they did, I hope theywrote it on.
Mike Gorday (48:51):
They wrote it on a piece of paper.
It's a keyboard password.
Nathan Mum (48:54):
One, two, three, all right.
Well, we're going to go andhead out to our last commercial
break.
When we return, we have theNathan nugget of the week.
Mike Gorday (49:07):
And, of course, our pick of the day back.
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Nathan Mum (49:30):
This is your Nugget of the Week.
All right, welcome back to ourNugget Now 10 technologies that
disappeared in 2024.
Will you miss them?
As the saying goes, nothinglasts forever.
All right, so we're going to gothrough this list.
You're going to tell me,everybody here around the table,
if you're happy that we nolonger have these services, or
are you sad?
Are you good riddance, eventhat you didn't need these?
(49:52):
We'll start with number one,icq, the original messaging app.
It was popular in the late 90s,found memories of this before
AOL instant messenger.
Days before any of themessenger services that are
available, I had an ICQ number.
It was essentially a name and anumber that was associated with
your ICQ.
Are you sad that ICQ is gone?
Marc Gregoire (50:15):
I don't care.
You don't care.
All right, I thought they weregone before.
Nathan Mum (50:19):
Okay, all right, nody you probably.
Marc Gregoire (50:22):
What the hell is that?
Nathan Mum (50:24):
All right AMD Link, used by streamers to send video
from their graphic cards totheir smartphones, being
discontinued because there areother third-party options that
are available.
Amd Link had no idea this evenexisted.
Excited this is gone, or cancare less.
Marc Gregoire (50:40):
No, I don't care.
Nathan Mum (50:41):
I don't care Care less, care, less, care, less,
all right.
Number three Twitch Watch Party, a feature that allowed you to
watch Amazon Prime videos withyour friends.
Now that, since we arepost-pandemic lockdown, they are
no longer doing any updates andthis will be removed.
Yeah, I don't care.
You don't care.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
I kind of care.
Nathan Mum (51:01):
Yeah, I kind of I don't know why you're going to
get rid of this feature if youalready have it programmed in
your software.
Marc Gregoire (51:06):
We struggle enough with connections and
being in each other's lives.
Yeah, and that was a littlebenefit.
Yeah, it was a benefit.
Mike Gorday (51:13):
I tried watching a movie on this when we were in
the pandemic and there was atime differential, so what I was
viewing was a few minutes orseconds behind what they were
viewing and it was somebody whowas talking a lot about the
movie so she basically wasspoiling the show.
Nathan Mum (51:34):
Oh, that was a great special effect.
Oh, there it is.
Mike Gorday (51:37):
Okay, this sucks.
Marc Gregoire (51:39):
Technology gets better, so that was the infancy.
Mike Gorday (51:42):
That's the idea, right, you should.
Nathan Mum (51:45):
HoloLens.
This is the Microsoft product.
There's a lot of theseMicrosoft products.
The AR headset we talked abouta big splash.
It was the virtual reality set.
Way too expensive, way tooniche product.
Are you excited or could careless?
Hololens.
Marc Gregoire (51:57):
I don't care, I don't care.
Nathan Mum (51:59):
Don't care, don't care, all right, once promising
to take over MS Paint into thethird dimension, I wrote an
article we talked about thiseven celebrating its arrival.
It is now no longer availableand you still have just the
standard MS Paint.
Darn it.
Are you sad about that?
Yeah, I don't care, you don'tcare.
Marc Gregoire (52:20):
I'm glad it's gone.
Okay, I'm glad it's gone.
I started opening it up in 3DPaint and so, finally, I put my
default back to Paint.
Nathan Mum (52:28):
I like Paint better than 3D, yeah, ms Paint, just
leave it real basic.
If I need to use a real basiceditor.
For some graphics, MS Paintworks.
Mike Gorday (52:34):
Is it because they tried to make you use it?
Yeah, that's the issue.
See, they don't get it.
Nathan Mum (52:38):
Well, no, because it had other features and it had
other things and you just justwanted to do like he said, just
a, b and c, all right, and 3drefused it, all right.
Android on windows.
Windows subsystem for androidenabled windows 11 devices to
run android devices that are nolonger there.
I don't care, doesn't matter.
Marc Gregoire (52:58):
Okay, all right this is how.
This is how the microsoft.
Nathan Mum (53:01):
The microsoft's pretty good if they get rid of
this stuff.
If you guys don't care anymore,wordpad, the classic text
editing app that sat betweennotepad and word, is no longer
available.
Does that make a difference foryou guys?
Mike Gorday (53:14):
yeah, I care, this greatly saddens me and you know
I feel like I need to go homeand take a bath with with
lavender candles okay, I'll looka mic that it doesn't matter.
Marc Gregoire (53:25):
Wordpad actually is a big classic at yeah, but
Notepad does a great job, and ifyou want some more features,
get Notepad plus, plus plus.
Okay, all right.
Nathan Mum (53:34):
Chromecast.
After 100 million units sold,the TV streaming device is now
discontinued.
No, according to Google, smartTVs are now the norm and
Chromecast replacement is nolonger needed to have your TV
streaming experience.
Sad or not sad, I don't care.
I'm sad because I got eight ofthese devices.
What do I do with these deviceslaying around the house?
Mike Gorday (53:53):
You're going to pack them in a box, like you do
everything else that you own.
Nathan Mum (53:57):
And then bring it out 20 years from now.
Mike Gorday (53:59):
If anybody wants nostalgic stuff, they just need
to come to your place and theycan view.
It's like a museum out there ofancient tech.
Nathan Mum (54:06):
I'm working on a 386 computer because I have to
reload Windows 98.
Mike Gorday (54:10):
right now I'm working on a 386.
All right.
Nathan Mum (54:12):
VPN by Google.
Speaker 5 (54:14):
This was the VPN service that we talked about.
Nathan Mum (54:16):
Nobody cares.
This is where you can use a VPNfor Google, but Google gets all
the information that you get,nobody cares, all right.
Dvd physical media products.
Nobody cares, All right.
Dvd physical media products.
The Apple USB Super Drive is nolonger being produced After 16
years of production.
Apple's calling it quits onDVDs and CD drives.
Mike Gorday (54:32):
How are you going to just skip over DVDs?
Nathan Mum (54:37):
Well, dvds are still being done.
It's the USB, apple Super Drive, dvd and physical media
products.
As with the USB Super Drive, Icare about that one a lot Okay.
Marc Gregoire (54:47):
I don't have an Apple product, so I don't either
.
I was going to say Mike, youand I are Windows guys.
Nathan Mum (54:51):
All right, well, I'm sure glad you guys didn't care
about most of the stuff thatwent.
Marc Gregoire (54:54):
They're all gone.
Is that all 10?
Nathan Mum (54:57):
That is all 10.
All right, now let's move on toour pick of the day whiskey
tasting.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
And and.
Now our pick of the day for ourwhiskey tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Gregoire (55:12):
We are drinking Sagamore Spirits Double Rye Oak.
It is distilled in Indiana butaged in Maryland.
It is a straight rye four tofive years, 96.6 proof and $64.
Nathan Mum (55:25):
I'm actually going to give it a thumbs down why
it's just not that great.
Marc Gregoire (55:30):
So I had predicted Nathan thumbs down,
because a little everything getstoo woody and too tan for him,
he gives a thumbs down.
Mike tends to like the oakbombs, so I'm thinking it's a
thumbs up for Mike.
Mike Gorday (55:40):
Okay, aside from the initial rye burn, from the
initial taste, it was good, allright.
Nathan Mum (55:46):
Well, there you go.
You're getting pretty good atthat prediction, and Chris will
enjoy this.
Marc Gregoire (55:51):
He's looking forward to it, all right.
Nathan Mum (55:53):
Okay, well, you know what we're really excited about
being on the show today.
We want to thank all of ourlisteners for joining the
program.
Listeners, you want to hear us?
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It was an honor to be on theshow today with you, as,
remember each and every day, thescience of tomorrow starts with
the technology of today.
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