Can a Chinese startup really challenge the AI giants with minimal hardware? Join me, Nathan Mumm, in a special unplugged episode of Tech Time Radio as we explore the fascinating claims of DeepSeek, a Chinese AI newcomer stirring up debates about China's potential in the global AI arena. With major players like Microsoft, Google, and the White House's AI czar, David Sachs, paying close attention, we delve into the ethical implications of DeepSeek's tactics and the broader impacts on the AI market. Plus, we'll take a nostalgic stroll through Facebook's early days, reflecting on its meteoric rise to social media dominance—all while savoring our trademark mix of tech talk and whiskey.
How about a self-driving car service in Texas by 2025? We turn our attention to Tesla's ambitious plans to launch autonomous vehicles in Austin, despite the challenges posed by recent incidents in the field. We'll discuss the potential shift from traditional rideshare models to AI-driven transportation, and tackle the unexpected diplomatic tensions sparked by a controversial move by former U.S. President Donald Trump to rename the Gulf of Mexico. From the future of transportation to geopolitical wrangles, this episode covers a wide array of intriguing topics that demand your attention.
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See, we are moving our studiosto a new location and, with this
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We're going to be exploringsome of the top stories, diving
a bit more into this deep bigfake which is known as DeepSeek,
from China, the new touted AIthat runs on just four hamster
wheels and a Pentium processorfrom the 90s.
Now, honestly, we're going tolook at the overhyped AI that
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has made the markets fall, withnothing behind it other than
smoke and mirrors.
But that's not all.
We're going to take a look atsome chat records that were
compromised.
We'll look back at the birth ofFacebook and, of course, you
can't forget our ongoingconcerns about data privacy and
security.
Now, of course, our standardfeatures, including Mike's
mesmerizing moment.
He's not here today, so we'regoing to kind of pass that over.
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We will do our technology failof the week and, of course, a
Nathan Nugget, and then we'regoing to also have our two
truths and a lie.
We're going to be reading someof the latest headlines and
seeing if you can pick out whichone is true and which one is
false.
This should be a great time.
I haven't done this for overabout a year and a half.
We are really excited to havemoved our studio into a new
location.
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We've been working on bringingour show to you more than just
weekly, so we're going to bedoing a bunch of new stuff.
We do have all the same cast ofcharacters Mike, mark and Odie
so I'll be excited about that.
We're keeping everybody aswe're moving on and hopefully
we've got bigger and betterthings to do.
But now the most importantstories of course have to be our
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top stories of the week.
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Here are our top technology stories of the week.
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All right, our top tech stories start with story
number one.
Is DeepSeek, the holy grail ofAI, or can China be the new
leader in technology and the AIfront?
Well, we still go to our buddy,corinne Westland, with more on
this story.
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DeepSeek challenged America's dominant position in
AI last week, when news got outthat a Chinese startup could
match the best chat GPT model byusing software instead of the
high-end hardware unavailable toAI firms in China.
Deepseek All right.
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So does stealing OpenAI's 3.5 code really count
as a new technology?
Deepseek R1 is now live andopen source, rivaling OpenAI's
Model O1, available on WebAppand API.
Now the problem is, though, ifyou're trying to sign up for
DeepSeek right now, there's anerror due to the large scale of
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malicious attacks on DeepSeekservices, or can we say, maybe
those Pentium processors aren'trunning up to the speed that are
actually capable of producingai right now.
If you try to go online and youtry to register, it'll say that
you are not able to register orsign up.
They'll come back to you with athank you for your
understanding and support andthey'll tell you to please wait
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and try again at a later time.
Now OpenAI claims it hasevidence that the Chinese AI
startup DeepSeek utilizesproprietary models to train
their open source model,potentially breaching the
company's terms of service.
Now it's interesting becausewe're going to see what happens
here.
Microsoft jumps into here, andthere were some issues that were
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going on last year and aroundAugust September timeframe, and
it probably had to dospecifically with deep seek, so
we'll get more into that as wego and talk about this.
Now.
These findings revolve aroundthe method known as distillation
, so that's where developersleverage outputs from larger AI
models to train smaller ones.
Well, this practice is standardand there's tons of AI
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development firms out therewithin the United States and
across the globe.
So this is not a America versusChina issue here.
But the problem arises when youextract it from the platform to
develop your own model for yourown use.
Now, deepseek's R1 reasoningmodel has gardened significant
attention in the tech sector fordelivering comparable results
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to the top US models atastonishingly low cost.
Now these are claimed low cost.
We don't know if these areactually backed with any facts.
And again, I'm not on a factfinding mission because I kind
of do like some of thetechnology from China,
specifically my favorite littleapp, tiktok.
So it's not that I'm here tobash anything that's going on
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with China, but I do think whenyou start copying, somebody
start doing it at low cost.
This kind of reminds me of thehigh quality models versus,
maybe, a product that you canfind on Teemu, which would be a
little bit lesser of quality.
So you have to actually takeinto effect what happens when
people actually did this.
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Now we're going to take a lookhere a little bit more as we go
down here on just why OpenAI andcompanies like Google are also
jumping into this, to say thatthere's some significant issues
with this low cost.
Now the company claims that itinvested a merely $5.6 million
in development, a small fractioncompared to the typical
expenditures of companies likeOpenAI and Google.
The app recently and even Muskfor thinking of this, if you
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take a look at all the time andeffort he spent probably just
$5.6 million on the hardwarefrom NVIDIA that he diverted
from Tesla to go and actually beused for his Grok AI, which is
kind of pretty junky to beginwith, but this app kind of now
has reached the top spot in theApple App Store.
Deep Seek's R1 is to beconsidered one of the trending
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apps.
Now, not that we need to haveall of the accusations be backed
up, but our new White House AIczar, david Sachs and he's an
okay guy, so technology-wise, Ithink he's pretty firm on what
he does.
He was candidly stated sayingthat there's substantial
evidence that what DeepSeek didis distill knowledge from OpenAI
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models, and I don't thinkOpenAI is very pleased about it.
It was quote-unquote what hesaid on Fox News regarding
OpenAI's accusation.
Now the ongoing controversy hasalready impacted the market,
with NVIDIA experiencing a 17%drop shares last week, a recent
record $589 billion market value.
Now it's probably overrated andinvestors are questioning the
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necessity of high powered AIhardware investments when
companies can achieve similaroutcomes with fewer resources.
I'd say that the fewerresources is has not been
substantially backed up yet tobe a model that can actually be
used and worked with.
Now, open AI and Microsoftinvestigated and suspended
accounts in August due tosuspected terms of service
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violations and now believe theseaccounts were connected to
DeepSeek.
However, both companies havereframed from disclosing
specific details regarding theirevidence, so they're kind of
backing their evidence up,saying that there were some
issues here that make sense towhy they had to actually alter
accounts that were usingtechnology.
Although the market faced acrash last Monday we talked
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about, hardware will play asignificant role in the ongoing
US-China AI conflict andthere'll be increased focus on
software optimization concept.
Deepseek's technology might nothave a direct advantage for
anybody else, but Apple could bepartnering in on this, which is
one of the few companiesrelatively untouched by the
crash.
I suspect that Apple couldapply partnering in on this,
which is one of the fewcompanies relatively untouched
by the crash.
I suspect that Apple couldapply some of DeepSeek's ideas
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to enhance its AI models, aimingto improve Apple intelligence
on the iPhone with iOS 19 andfuture updates.
My point is not that Appleshould embed DeepSeek into the
iPhone, similar to how ChatGPTand other chatbot services are
being integrated, but I thinktheir approach to have some
clear software processes inplace could help actually Apple
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choosing to integrate withDeepSeek into some of its Apple
devices in China.
Now Apple struggles in theChina market, a crucial market
where iPhone sales continue todecline market a crucial market
where iPhone sales continue todecline.
If they could actually jumpinto some of the deep seek AI
into its iOS, I think it couldactually probably leverage that
to become a more dominant playerin the China area.
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And it does seem that Appleintelligence is impressed with
the information that they havereceived from both chat, gpt and
Gemini features from Google andincluding on the Pixel and
Android devices that it's stilllooking to come up from its
infancy stages to take a look atwhat can be happening with
DeepSeek.
So let's talk about whatDeepSeek is.
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All right.
Deepseek is processes that havebeen talked about.
We don't have all of the fullinformation exactly what's going
on, because people haven'tdived in and been there.
They are getting tons of pressrelease and information that has
been passed out, and the appdoes seem to work pretty good.
The problem is, though, it'snothing newer than what you
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would have gotten that I've seenon anything besides the AI
models that OpenAI has forChatGPT 3.5, which is a pretty
outdated large language model.
A large language model is themain data set that you use to
have your AI create theresponses and come up with this
logic and algorithms to decipherwhat you're asking it to do.
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So, as much as that may be great, that DeepSeq took an older
technology, an older largelanguage model was able to
condense it into probably a muchmore profitable environment, is
standard in almost everytechnology we have.
Look at your telephones that wehad back in the 80s and 90s, if
you were around that time.
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Those telephones had hugecircuit boards, information in
there, and that was just topress ones and zeros and nines
and digit numbers to receive acode so you could actually
transmit that information toconnect with another connecting
device, to actually transfer avoice conversation.
Now what would you have today?
A little microchip that sits ina phone, and my phone itself is
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a supercomputer compared towhat we had just 10 years ago.
It doesn't mean that I had toreplace the technology with
newer technology for the factthat it needed to be done.
But what happens is is astechnology evolves, you can do
faster and faster and quickeritems without having to have
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that big circuitry that you hadto have before.
But that doesn't do anything ofwhat happened on AT&T and Bell
when they had to actually do theresearch into the technology of
how to condense these items.
So taking a software platformafter someone has spent years
and years developing a hardwareplatform to come up with what is
available is kind of a normalprocess.
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So I don't know why people aregoing on this huge rampage for
DeepSeek and that this is thenext new app that's going to
take over the world.
It may be the next cheap appthat you can get.
That's probably five or sixyears dated.
Again, if you don't have aproblem with outdated
information or older information, then you know what DeepSeek is
going to be there for you atprobably one-eighth of the price
that you can pay for OpenAI orother devices.
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But for me and for, hopefully,my clientele, we're going to
want to stick with somethingthat we know is cutting edge,
and for that I am still a bigcomponent of OpenAI, and ChatGPT
is my platform, includingMicrosoft Bing.
All right, that's a little bit.
Welcome to the kind of off therails segments.
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We go a little bit longer on.
These technologies probably geta little bit more deeper.
So I apologize for any newlisteners that may be listening
to our unplugged episode.
This is what you get when youget, once every two or three
years, an unplugged episode.
You get a lot more technology.
Talk from Nathan.
All right, let's go on to storynumber two.
Story number two Tesla is setto introduce a self-driving car
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service in Texas this June.
According to Elon Musk, therollout will initialize the
Model Y and Model 3 vehicles,with the cyber cab expected to
debut in 2027.
All right, so we've beentalking about Waymo.
I'm sure everybody's seen thevideo for the Waymo that was out
there, the car that kept ongoing around circles and circles
as the guy was trying to go tothe airport and leave.
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Pretty sensational little video.
The guy calls up customerservices.
I say I need help.
But Musk, you know he's got tobe in the news.
If it's not today, it's got tobe tomorrow, and if it's not
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tomorrow, it's got to betomorrow and if it's not
tomorrow it's the next day.
So he decided that he's goingto be rolling out, of course,
his own cyber cab solution in2027.
Now musk indicated that by juneunsupervised teslas great kind
of like unsupervised kids wouldbe operating in austin, although
the deployment will be gradual.
So everybody in aust, when itcomes July 4th, be careful out
there, because you can have allthese unsupervised Teslas
Hopefully they don't run incircles and that everything is
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working well, but they're goingto be.
Deployment will be gradually,says.
Last year he had mentioned toinvestors at target launch in
2025 for the self-drivingservice in both California and
Texas, and it appears thatthey're on track.
During the fourth quarter.
Earning calls must confirm thatAustin would be the test market
with self-driving capabilitiesexpected to launch as early as
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June of 2025.
Quote-unquote.
We're confident that we willbegin unsupervised, fully
autonomous driving in Austin andJune must stated.
Our Fremont factory already hasTeslas operating fully
autonomously with no one insideand we plan to implement that on
our Texas facility soon.
Tesla did not respond toquestions or comments.
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Reports about Teslacollaborating with Austin for
relegatory approval firstemerged in December through
emails obtained by Bloomberg,although that had not been
finalized.
Austin is the launch site atthe time, so either Musk's got
that taken care of or he's kindof just hoping that that's going
to happen soon.
Musk shared limited specifics,but noted that there are
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thousands of cars quote unquoteoperating around the Fremont
factory fully autonomous.
Yeah, the company is ready toadvance its unsupervised full
self-driving technology to manyus regions by year end, likely
starting with california andtexas.
Initially, they were expectedfor cybercab to be used at that
time, but it's gonna have towait until 2027.
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Tesla rely on the model y andModel 3.
In summary, 2025 is a criticalyear for Tesla, musk remarked,
calling it potential for thecompany's most significant year
ever.
Despite the ambitious plans,musk emphasized the importance
of a cautious approach to therollout.
We intend to start graduallyensuring everything is safe for
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the general public andpassengers first, he expressed.
Now Tesla's cautious stancecomes from the light of
challenges faced by self-drivingtaxi services recently, Through
.
Statistics indicatedself-driving vehicles are
generally safer thanhuman-operated.
There's still been some notableincidents California halted
cruises, driverless cars in 2023due to safety issues in the
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Waymo fist scrutiny.
2023 due to safety issues inthe Waymo fist scrutiny.
And 2024 with two autonomouscars collided with a tow truck
twice in one day.
Musk explained that Tesla's AIwill operate differently than
the most autonomous systems, butnot rely on high precision
local maps.
Instead, it will utilize AI toanalyze surroundings and make
real-time decisions.
Austin will act as a testingground to ensure the vehicles
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drive effectively beforeexpanding to other regions,
which, with a broader launchanticipated soon after, austin,
is going well, all right.
So what does people think aboutthat?
So we got Elon Musk out here.
He's really busy now working atthe White House occasionally
when he's allowed in there, andthen all of a sudden now he's
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going to have his autonomous AIcars.
Now I got some hope for this.
You know, I think Austin is aninteresting area to be used as a
testing ground.
I don't know if that would bemy first choice, for this will
be interested in is that I dothink in the next five or six
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years, we are going to have awhole service slew of autonomous
AI driven cars.
So when you need to go to thatlocal airport, there's not going
to be the Uber driver, it'sgoing to be the Uber version two
, where you get picked up,someone comes on it there
autonomously, you can throw yourbags in there and boom, you
drive to the airport.
I just don't know in my localtraffic how well that will work.
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So that ai better be on top ofthings.
Because if you're not willingto take a little bit of a risk
here on i-5 to get into seattlepast the sea tack area to go on
our major international airport,then uh, you're going to be
waiting for hours and hours, andhours.
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All right, well, moving on,let's take a look at story
number three.
This is our last story.
This comes to me with a littlebit of a sigh and a little bit
of grin.
At the same time, mexicorequests Google Maps to retain
the name the Gulf of Mexico.
So I'm sure everybody's heardby now that our new president
has wanted to rename the Gulf ofMexico to the Gulf of Mexico.
So I'm sure everybody's heardby now that our new president
has wanted to rename the Gulf ofMexico to the Gulf of America.
But Mexico's president, claudiaShinboms, has sent a letter to
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Google urging the company toreconsider its decision that it
did to rename the Gulf of Mexico.
In the first week in the office,us President Donald Trump
signed an executive order tomandate that the body of water
bordering the US, cuba andMexico be referred to now as the
Gulf of America.
The new name will only bevisible to users in the US, so
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he actually got this changed.
As a president, when you decideto create an executive order
and name stuff, I guess ifyou're a software company in
that country, you're probablygoing to want to do that also.
Now it will remain globally theGulf of Mexico, to maintain its
historical name, which has beenused for centuries.
However, mexico contends thatthe US cannot legally alter the
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Gulf's name, since the UnitedNations Convention on the Law of
the Sea stipulates that thecountry's sovereign territory
extends only 12 nautical milesfrom its coastline.
Google has yet to respond torequests for comments.
On Monday, though, however, thecompany stated that we have a
long-lasting practice ofapplying name changes when
they're updated in officialgovernment sources.
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It has also revert Mount Denalito Mount McKinley in the US,
adhering to another one ofTrump's orders.
When official names differbetween countries, map users
will see their respective localname.
That has been added, claims theGulf of America is being used
by the staff within the WhiteHouse.
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Trump issued the executiveorder to rename it from the Gulf
of Mexico and for the entireworld it's still known as the
Gulf of Mexico, but if you're inthe United States, you can now
take a look at that on GoogleMaps.
Apple Maps and Bing Maps havenot updated at this time.
Well, that ends our toptechnology stories of the week.
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We verify the facts and we dealwith the sense of humor in less
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Of course, a little whiskey onour side Today.
Mark Gregoire, our whiskeyconnoisseur, is not here, so you
know what?
I am going to be sipping alittle bit of Jack Daniels just
a standard Jack Daniels duringthe show itself, as a tradition
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But he will be back next weekand I believe we are going to be
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So we have a calendar area thatwe're going through.
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Each first week of the month wetake a look at some top whiskey
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So make sure you would join usthere.
Now as we return, I'm going togo through three stories.
I'm going to read you theheadlines and brief information
of this, and two of these aregoing to be truthful and one is
going to be a lie.
Do you know which one it is?
And now we have two truths anda lie.
(22:58):
All right, our two truths and alie.
How we do this is normally wehave two or three other people
in the studio I normally competewith compete with Mike and Mark
and I kind of go through and Iread them subjects that are very
interesting in the top newstechnology and they say if it's
actually true or false andthey're trying to see how I read
them and what am I stutteringon and what am I doing here and
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what am I doing there.
But we're going to take acouple of stories here.
I'm going to give the headlinesfrom them.
You're going to kind of see ifthat's actually what's going on
or is not going on, and we'regoing to have you actually play
with it at home.
Now these are all being takenfrom top websites, so these are
stories that are actuallystandard geek areas that are
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there.
So number one we're going to betalking about story number one
here.
Can you see uncensored versionsof DeepSeek through Perplexity?
All right, so if you've beenconsidering trying DeepSeek, the
host new AI app from China, butputting off concerns about
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privacy and censorship, you'llbe interested to know there's a
new tweaked version of DeepSeekR1 model available inside
Perplexity censorship.
You'll be interested to knowthere's a new tweaked version of
DeepSeek R1 model availableinside Perplexity.
Perlexity is a long-giving userchoice of in-house and
third-party AIs for answeringprompts.
The DeepSeek R1 is the latesttechnology we talked about.
Perplexity co-founder ArvindServin has promised the
censorship guardrails have beentaken off.
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So, yes, you can ask about TianTinaman Square and anything
associated that you wantedwithin the United States or out.
Now DeepSeek has an optioninside of Perplexity that can be
used today.
So is that a story that is trueor false?
Has somebody input DeepSeek AIinto their app itself?
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All right, okay, microsoft 365is raising prices and ditching
its free VPN.
Story number two All right, isthis true or false?
Paying more and gettingseamlessly standard operating
procedures these days?
Certainly that's what Microsoft365, the fancy name for
(25:04):
Microsoft Office, users havebeen about to experience.
The service includes VPN isbeing dropped as of February
28th, according to a supportnote on the Microsoft site.
The company routinely evaluatesthe uses of effectiveness for
their features and decided VPNis no longer a necessary part of
the Microsoft 365 service.
As VPNs go, it was only okay.
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The truth is, microsoft VPNcame with 50 gigabyte monthly
data limits didn't allow you totrick your browser into thinking
you were else place in theworld.
So it was a free VPN that camewith your service and it's now
going to be dropped.
But if you want to continuewith a 365 subscription price
hike, you can pay $3 more permonth roughly a 43% increase to
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get additional services thatcould still be used with any
other VPN service.
All right, and story numberthree Apple Music has an amazing
deal for new users right now.
There's a lot of music streamingservices to choose from right
now.
Many of them subscribe toSpotify or Apple Music, or
(26:15):
myself I use Amazon MusicService.
It's about a hundred bucks ayear, but I find it to be pretty
entertaining, as most of thesongs and stations I want.
But if you still are likeothers, you use YouTube Music,
amazon Music or Tidal.
Those are all pros and cons,but the price is the most
important fact to you.
It's a good time to check outApple's offering.
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Apple Music will usually cost$10.99 for individual users,
$16.99 for family and $5.99 forstudents, $16.99 for family and
$5.99 for students.
But you are now eligible fornew subscribers only six months
of Apple Music for $1.99.
That's not $1.
That's $1.99 less than a coffee.
(26:57):
Just think of the totalavailable for you.
All right, so those are thethree stories.
So I got Apple Music.
Of course, only has a newsubscriber deal for $199 as a
story that was available.
There we go back to theMicrosoft 365 is raising its
prices and ditching to its freeVPN service.
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And story number one wasregarding the integration of
DeepSeek into a third-party app.
So if you're playing at homeand you guessed that number one
DeepSeek is being pushed into athird-party app, that would be a
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truth If you're looking forstory number two.
Story number two was regardingMicrosoft 365 raising its prices
and ditching its free VPN.
That is true also.
And so story number three, theApple services that are going to
be coming on out are going tobe reduced for the first six
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months, but it's going to be at$299 instead of the $199 price
tag.
I stated and that's the way weplay Two Truths in a Lie.
I appreciate you for playingthat we're going to head right
out to our second commercialbreak.
When we come on back, we'regoing to be talking about our
this Week in Technology, so nowwould be a great time to enjoy a
(28:25):
little whiskey on the side, asI'm going to be doing so during
the break.
We'll see you after this.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Hey, mike, yeah, what's up?
Nathan Mumm (28:31):
Hey, so you know what.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
We need people to start liking our social media
page If you like our show, ifyou really like us we could use
your support on Patreoncom.
Is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, patreon, if you reallylike us, you can like us and you
say I'm the English guy.
Patreoncom.
I butcher the English language,you know you butcher the
English language all the time.
Nathan Mumm (28:53):
It's Patreoncom, patreoncom.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
If you really like our show, you can subscribe to
Patreoncom and help us out, andyou can visit us on that
Facebook platform, you know, theone that Zuckerberg owns, the
one that we always bag on.
Nathan Mumm (29:06):
Yeah, we're on Facebook too, yeah like us on
Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Tech.
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Time Radio At Tech Time Radio.
And you know what?
There's a trend here.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech
Time.
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Radio, or you can find us on TikTok.
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And it's TechTimeRadio.
It's at TechTimeRadio.
Like and subscribe to oursocial media Like us.
Nathan Mumm (29:30):
Today, we need you to like us.
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Like us and subscribe .
That's it.
Nathan Mumm (29:33):
That's it.
It's that simple.
Welcome back to TechTime withyour host, nathan Mumm.
Hopefully you're enjoying thisunique episode.
This is our Unplugged series,so this is a little bit
(29:56):
different.
We don't have Mike, odie orMark in the studio today.
It's just myself talking on themicrophone, with a little bit
of music here and there thatwill be added in and we'll see
how things go.
Our regular scheduledprogramming will be back next
week, so take a look at it.
We will have gadgets and gear,gal Gwen way on the show.
Following that, we have NickEspinosa coming on up and we
(30:19):
have tons of mystery guests thatare going to be a part of our
show also.
So we're pretty excited aboutthat.
This show is being recorded.
Just myself.
Old-fashioned back when youhave one mic and you kind of
talk into it and then you do alittle bit of editing here and
there afterwards.
But we're excited to be talkingabout technology.
I'm excited to be here and wecan't wait to have our new
(30:41):
studio in place, ready to go.
So now you know what we'regoing to take a look at.
We're going to take a look atthis week in technology and now
let's look back at this week intechnology all right, we're
going to the way back machine.
we're going.
February 4th 2024 facebook isborn.
(31:04):
Mark Zuckerberg launches theFacebook, which later becomes
Facebook.
The world changes forever.
The story of Facebook tracesits transformation from a
college networking platform to aworldwide social media giant.
Now, mark Zuckerberg, theco-founder of Facebook, began
this journey in his Harvard dormroom in November 2005.
(31:26):
In 2003, while studying atHarvard University, he launched
a website named FaceMash.
The site was akin to hot or not, using images from online
Facebooks and inviting users toselect the hotter person.
Although Zuckerberg facedexpulsion for this project, the
charge were ultimately dropped.
A quote-unquote Facebook is adirectory of students showcasing
(31:51):
their photos and personaldetails.
Now, in January of 2004,zuckerberg created a new site
called the Facebook, assertingthe technology required to
develop a centralized site thatwas readily available.
The advantages were numerous.
He partnered with a fellowstudent, edward Severin, and
they committed $1,000 each tothe project.
(32:13):
On February 4, 2004, zuckerbergofficially launched
quote-unquote the Facebook.
At first, access was limited toHarvard College students.
At first, access was limited toHarvard College students.
To support the site's expansion, though, dustin Muscoff, andrew
McCollum and Chris Huges joinedZuckerberg.
The platform eventually openedup to various universities
(32:34):
across the US and Canada.
In 2004, sean Parker, theco-founder of Napster, took on
the role of the companypresident, and Facebook moved
its headquarters to Palo Alto,california.
In 2005, the company droppedthe from the name, obtaining the
domain night to Facebookcom.
Well, that was this week intechnology.
(32:58):
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We're going to take acommercial break.
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The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's
Whiskey Mumble.
Nathan Mumm (34:06):
All right, well, this is not Mark's Whiskey
Mumble.
All right, well, this is notMark's Whiskey Mumble.
This is Nathan talking aboutwhat he is drinking.
He is drinking a simple JackDaniels distilled from the Jack
Daniel Company from TennesseeWhiskey produced by the Jack
Daniel Distillery in Lunchburg,tennessee, which is owned by the
Brown Forman Corporation since1956.
(34:28):
Packaged in square bottles,jack Daniel's Black Label
Tennessee whiskey sold 12.9million liters in 2017.
Other brands variations such asTennessee Honey, tennessee
Apple Gentleman Jack andTennessee Fire are ready to
drink products that also includemore than 16.1 million in sales
during that same time.
(34:49):
Now, jack Daniels' brandofficial website suggests that
its founder, jasper Newton JackDaniels, was born in 1850.
His tombstone bears that date,but says the exact birth date is
unknown.
The company's website says thatit's customary to celebrate his
birthday in September.
According to Tennessee StateLibrary website, in 2013,
(35:09):
records list his birth date asSeptember 5th, 1846.
So, jack Daniels verytraditional.
You'll see this anywhere.
Little Jack Daniels and Cokegoes really well.
Little Jack Daniels andlemonade goes really well.
This was kind of the standardthat I use, produced now with
(35:31):
the lower end green label at 80proof is what I enjoy most of
the time, but I do get the blacklabel, which is 90 proof.
So you know what?
Whiskey connoisseurs that arelistening to today's show you're
going to be very disappointedto know that Nathan, your radio
host, enjoys just a simple JackDaniels, all right.
(35:51):
Well, you know what?
Nothing like having a littlewhiskey pairing with technology,
right, and we always make acomparison.
So I'm going to compare thisshow to like puppets in the
Muppet Show.
You can't have the.
Muppet Show without Kermit theFrog or Fozzie Bear some of the
greatest puppets and puppeteersknown for their technology.
(36:12):
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Nathan Mumm (36:36):
Yes, All right, we're going to be talking.
Our technology fail.
Well, we're going right over toDeepSeek.
This episode is DeepSeekcentric.
So DeepSeek exposes a databasewith over 1 million chat records
.
So this is what happens whenyou are a software company that
is borrowing or stealing otherpeople's information.
When you go and steal it, youneed to make sure on the open
(36:57):
source that if you're going touse information, you secure it.
But you know what?
Deepseek, the Chinese AIstartup, may be really good for
coming up with AI models, buttheir security systems are
flawed.
Now DeepSeek, the China AIstartup known for DeepSeek R1LM
model, is publicly exposed todatabase containing sensitive
user and operational information.
(37:18):
The unsecured ClickHouseinstance reported held over a
million log entries containinguser chat histories in plain
text form, API keys, backenddetails and operational metadata
.
Wizz Research discovered thisexposure during the security
assessment of DeepSeq's externalinfrastructure exposure.
During the security assessmentof DeepSeek's external
infrastructure, the securityfirm found two publicly
(37:42):
accessible database instancesauthorized to call back DeepSeek
port 900 and DeepSeek port 900for DeepSeekcom that allowed
arbitrary SQL queries via theweb interface without requiring
authentication to go into theirbackend models.
So if you're going to be usingDeepSeek, the Chinese AI startup
company understand thatanything that you may do
(38:04):
chat-wise, any queries you mayput in, all that information
could be available for otherhackers to take a look and see
what's your username, accountback information details, API
keys, and know everything you'researching on.
Wouldn't that be great if OpenAIdecided to release all of their
search algorithms that peoplehave put into their AI searches
(38:25):
and decided to publicly exposethose for each user's name and
information?
Probably not.
That's why you should probablystick with an AI service that is
in the United States.
All right, we're going to headout to our last commercial break
.
When we return, we have aNathan Nuggets and we're going
to have our pick of the day,which you guys already heard
about, so don't worry about that.
(38:47):
But if you do have some whiskeyor a pop or a soda or anything
you'd like to raise a glass to,why don't you do that while you
listen to this commercial break?
We'll see you after this.
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Welcome back to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm
, the week at our technologyshow that talks about current
technology in a simple formatwithout having to geek out.
I'm your host, nathan Mumm, andwe are on the Nathan Mumm
special episode.
We call this Tech Time RadioUnplugged.
It is just myself here.
We're talking about differenttechnologies.
All my main staff have thisweek off, so hopefully they're
(39:48):
enjoying the time off and I'menjoying a little bit of time
putting the stories together.
One of the big things that Ireally enjoy about doing the
radio show is all the researchand information that I get to do
for the shows each week.
So I love learning about newtechnology and I used to do this
many hours and many timesacross different platforms and
(40:11):
different jobs that I've hadwithin the United States.
And what I really enjoy isspending the time to do the
research of stories that breakon the headlines and actually
see if that information is validor if it's not valid or what
information is important for theindustry, and then try to get
some of those sub stories thatare a little bit smaller out
(40:33):
there that people might not hearabout, so we can talk about
them instead of the attentiongrabbing areas.
We're going to do our Nathannugget here and I'm going to be
talking a little bit kind ofreminiscing about what we have
coming up for this year's showand technology item here, and
we're going to be doing a littlebit of reminiscing about how
(40:53):
the show gets made.
So let's get ready for ourNathan nugget.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
This is your nugget of the week.
Nathan Mumm (41:02):
All right.
This Nathan nugget comes to usfrom the California Institute of
Technology.
Printable molecules.
Selective nanoparticles enablemass production of wearable
biosensors, so this is somethingthat has come across just
recently.
It's pretty interesting in whatCaltech engineers have
(41:23):
developed.
They developed a technique forinkjet printing arrays and
special nanoparticles thatenable a mass production of a
long-lasting wearable sweatsensor.
The sensors could be used tomonitor a variety of biomarkers,
such as vitamins, hormones,medications, in real time,
providing patients and theirphysicians with the ability to
(41:45):
continually flow through changesof levels of the molecules.
Wearable biosensors thatincorporate the new
nanoparticles have beensuccessfully used to monitor
metabolite in patients sufferingfrom long COVID, as the levels
of the chemotherapy drugs incancer patients at the City of
Hope in California have alsoused the same technology.
(42:08):
These are just two examples ofwhat is possible, says Wiege,
the professor of medicalengineering in the Andrew and
Peggy Department of MedicalEngineering at Caltech.
There are many chronicconditions, and biomarkers and
sensors now give us thepossibility to monitor
continuously and non-evasivelythe information.
Importantly in this new studyis the research combines
(42:32):
specially formatted polymers andnanoparticle cores made of
nickel hydrate, and they can beiodized and reduced under
applied electrical voltage incontact with human sweat and the
body then takes these fluids tocome on out and give a NAICF
(42:52):
core report on the vitaminsthemselves.
So great news is coming on out.
Just think that in the futureyou're going to be able to have
printable nanoparticles-enabledproducting.
So think of your HP printerbeing able to print out
nanoparticles like ink, creatingan inexpensive way to see how
(43:12):
you're doing and to see what'sgoing on.
I can see athletes using this.
I can see many other peopleusing this, but some cool
breaking technology news.
So let's talk a little bit.
We have some time here.
I got about 10 minutes and sowe're going to wrap up the show
here with kind of some thoughtsof just what we're going to be
looking for coming up this yearon Tech Time Radio and some of
(43:35):
the reasons on why we actuallydo Tech Time itself.
So this is a little bit of aNathan Nugget and a little bit
of kind of an intro into what wehave going on over our four
plus years and what we'relooking to do in the next four
plus years.
So welcome everybody.
If this is your first show,this is going to be a unique
show, so please either listen tothe repeat from last week our
CES best of the best from CESand kind of the weirdest of the
(43:58):
weird, or listen to our nextweek show and we have Gwen way
on our standard show withgadgets and gear and everybody
back in the studio.
But I haven't had a time toreally pause with the show has
been going on for four plusyears and really kind of
communicate and talk about whywe created the show, what's
behind the show, why we do theshow, what's behind the show,
why we do the show itself.
As we talked about a little bitbefore we got into the Nathan
(44:20):
Nugget, this show is reallybased upon the research and
technology of myself and what Iwould consider a Saturday
morning sit down with anewspaper and coffee.
I kind of like to sit down withan energy drink, a Rockstar or
a Monster or something with alot of caffeine.
And then I'll do is I'll justkind of breeze through and take
(44:42):
a look at technology articlesfrom the BBC, from Wired
Magazine, tons of differentlocations that I have.
I have about 132 differentlittle websites that I have
taken off information from andwhat I'll do is I'll just go
through and I'll pick a subjectfor the day or I'll just pick a
(45:04):
whatever trending topic is.
And then what I'll do is I'llkind of go through that and I'll
kind of do some research and dosome deep diving.
So just to take a look here atmy link I have the bbc news,
cnet, digital trends in gadgetgizmodo, how to geek the latest
from tech, radar, life hacker,mashable, the new york techno
(45:24):
times, technology pc world slashdot, tech crunch, the next web,
the verge wired, yahootechnology and a bunch of other
uh and the tech, a bunch ofother technology folders that I
subscribe to with articles thatI go through and read pretty
much on a weekly basis, uh,normally on a Saturday or a
(45:46):
Sunday morning, and what I'll dois, uh, that when we decided to
do the shows, uh, it was duringCOVID and there was not a whole
lot of social interaction thatwas going on, and so me and Mr
Gorday Mike Gorday decided toget together and kind of put
together a show and we talkabout technology and Mr Gorday
at that time was a little bitmore technology friendly.
(46:09):
Now he's kind of anti-AI, asyou guys will always hear.
He's kind of our curmudgeon onthe show itself and he doesn't
like this or doesn't like thistype of deal.
We started with an engineer atour radio station.
His name was David and Davidwas a pretty funny guy and
didn't really know howtechnology worked very well, but
he would try to run our boardand most of the time it would
(46:30):
work.
And every once in a while itwouldn't work and we continued
our show for quite a long time.
We expanded Tech Time Radiointo a two-hour show, which I'd
really love to do again, butit's tough to get that much time
in the recording studio withall of our staff.
They all have very busy livesand they're all busy doing
different things, so it's toughto get that area.
(46:53):
We expanded to a bunch of oursatellite stations that you're
probably listening to Tech TimeRadio now on, whether that's in
the Bay Area, in Boston, in NewYork, in Florida, all of our
substations which are a greatpart of our family, of our 35
million listeners.
We thank them a lot forrebroadcasting our shows and
(47:14):
putting it out there, and so wewere having a great time.
We expanded again to thetwo-hour show.
Then we decided to move to anew studio.
We wanted to kind of move upfrom the studio that we were at
into a new studio in downtownSeattle, and that's when Odie
became our producer for our showand has been a part of our show
since.
(47:35):
Mark Gregoire and I go back along time working at a company
together Not Microsoft, notVulcan, but another company that
I worked at and so he wasalways kind of into whiskey and
drinking and I told him I'dcreated a show and he said he
should do one a little bit aboutwhiskey, and I liked whiskey.
(47:57):
He knew that I liked whiskeyenough and I said, well, I just
want to make sure I do somethingthat doesn't run out.
And let me just tell you we'vebeen doing this show for four
years and I think we're probablyonly a third of the way through
all the whiskeys that we canget.
I have new whiskeys that getsent to our show.
I get new whiskeys that I pickup all the time.
(48:19):
But I do enjoy the early dayswhen I would actually go to a
wines and more or a whiskeystore in our local area and I go
through and I pick out thecheapest whiskeys I can and see
if any of them were any good andso kind of been known as the
cheap whiskey drinker because ofthat sense.
Now we had Mark join as ourwhiskey connoisseur.
He's a part of a bunch ofwhiskey clubs and we enjoy him
being here.
He's also a technologist as aside job, so all three of us put
(48:44):
together most of the shows.
Gwen Way you'll see as ourgadgets and gear gal next week
on the show.
She's a producer with our showtoo.
She's been a part of ourlong-term show and the idea was
to create a show that did notcome to you from the political
right wing or the political leftwing did not put politics into
(49:06):
most of the information thatthey have.
If I report something thatBiden did or if I reported
something that Trump did, it'sjust the information on the
technology side of what's goingon.
So you're aware of that.
We do have people, I believe,in our staff that are on both
sides of who they would vote for, and so we try to keep this all
very unpolitical, which doesmake our station a little bit in
(49:29):
our programming a little bitmore what I would say tougher to
grasp into because we're notpolarizing on one side or
polarizing on the other side.
So we do appreciate kind ofkeeping it neutral and talking
about how technology applies toour life and what is going on
with technology, our upcomingyear.
(49:50):
This year we have a new studio,so we are going to be moving
into producing a lot morecontent.
We're going to be moving intoproducing a lot more content.
We're going to be looking atproducing content.
That will be a lot of offlinemyself doing this in itself and
then there'll be a lot of onlinestuff where there will be us
doing our standard streams.
We have moved into a newerstudio that was all just rebuilt
(50:16):
specifically for us to moveinto.
The sound is fantastic.
It's dead, so we can yell asmuch as we want and we're not
going to hear anything of what'sgoing on.
And what we plan to do is bringyou continuing guests continuing
and returning individuals suchas Nick Espinosa and James
Riddle.
Guests continuing to returningindividuals such as Nick
(50:38):
Espinosa and James Riddle, andhopefully we get Phil Hennessey
back here on our show coming uphere soon and then we're going
to bring in a bunch of newguests that will be talking
about technology.
We like that the new guestscome.
Some people really enjoy them.
Sometimes not as much.
Sometimes it's a little bitmore difficult to work with,
because when you have a newguest that's coming on in, they
don't know our radio audienceand normally they're trying to
push something or sell something, so we always want to talk with
(51:00):
them about their technologyversus what they're trying to
sell.
Upcoming, we're going to do acouple of crazy episodes, I
expect, for 4th of July.
I do know that we're going tonow have the opportunity to take
the show a lot more on the road, so that's something that we're
going to look to do.
We've done one remote locationone time, but I do think that we
(51:21):
will be doing now more remotelocations.
I do think such events like CESnext year for 2026, you'll
probably do a live show fromdown there in itself, or maybe
two or three shows that we putin with people that will be
coming on in and interviewingthem for our show itself, and so
there's a lot of great plansthat we're planning to do.
(51:42):
We're still planning on havingsome of the sense of humor Some
of the whiskey stuff is notgoing away but we're trying to
develop a more rounded show initself that people can listen to
.
Now I do appreciate feedbackthat we get.
We get some feedback not alwayspositive and not always
negative, kind of very neutralbut we'd love for you guys to go
(52:03):
on and visit us attechtimeradiocom and click on
the webpage and go and decide toput a comment in one of our
YouTube videos or go and take alook at a comment between
something else that we talkedabout.
We do have a talk back on ourtechtimeradiocom site that we
would love for people to go toalso, so we'd love for you guys
(52:24):
to go and visit that and ask usa question and then we can
actually do some of ourtechnology expertise and trying
to figure out what's going on.
This is the weekend leading upto the Super Bowl, so, as a
Nathan nugget, this is a timewhere I always talk about some
of the best times to go and buyTVs.
(52:44):
If you're looking as a consumerlevel, right now, tvs the
newest TVs that were justpresented at CES may still be
coming on out, probably normallyquarter two and quarter three
of this year, but all of thecurrent Christmas specials or
the Christmas high-end itemsthat are there are now all on
sale, so you can buy three$4,000 televisions for the
(53:07):
Superbowl weekend that's comingon up, or I guess you're
supposed to call it the, thesuper Sunday.
You're not supposed to saySuperbowl, but the Super Sunday
show that's coming on up betweenKansas City Chiefs and the
Philadelphia Eagles.
We'll see if the three-peathappens, but now is the time to
go out and buy a TV.
Go down to your big box store.
(53:27):
Find a TV that is there.
Take a look at the items thatare available there.
Maybe go visit a electronicsspecialty store that's available
.
All of them are going to behaving sales on.
So this is the time if you'relooking to get that great deal
that you want to make sure youtake a look at, because there's
nothing better than that.
(53:48):
Well, when you hear this, youknow what that means.
And we're getting close to theend of our show.
It means I got a minute 26 totalk about what else we have
coming on up.
I appreciate you joining theunplugged show.
That was probably a little bitdifferent.
If this again, if you're firsttime listening to it, please do
not judge us on this show.
This show was done as aspecialty show.
(54:11):
This will not be what younormally get for our normal
programming, but you know what.
You'll be excited to see whatwe have next week with Mark,
mike and Odi all back that aregoing to just be chomping at the
bit.
So we're about out of time.
We want to thank our listenersfor joining the program.
Listeners who want to hear fromyou again, go to
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Be a caller or ask.
Ask a question On anytechnology item in our TalkBack
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Try to find something that canstump me, stump Mr Gourdet or
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That would be fantastic.
You can always stay connectedby signing up for our newsletter
and staying up to date on thelatest technology trends For all
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It was an honor to be on theshow today to host this.
Remember the science oftomorrow starts with the
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We'll see you next week.
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We're going to be exploringsome of the top stories, diving
a bit more into this deep bigfake which is known as DeepSeek,
from China, the new touted AIthat runs on just four hamster
wheels and a Pentium processorfrom the 90s.
Now, honestly, we're going tolook at the overhyped AI that
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has made the markets fall, withnothing behind it other than
smoke and mirrors.
But that's not all.
We're going to take a look atsome chat records that were
compromised.
We'll look back at the birth ofFacebook and, of course, you
can't forget our ongoingconcerns about data privacy and
security.
Now, of course, our standardfeatures, including Mike's
mesmerizing moment.
He's not here today, so we'regoing to kind of pass that over.
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Nathan Nugget, and then we'regoing to also have our two
truths and a lie.
We're going to be reading someof the latest headlines and
seeing if you can pick out whichone is true and which one is
false.
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I haven't done this for overabout a year and a half.
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We're keeping everybody aswe're moving on and hopefully
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But now the most importantstories of course have to be our
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top stories of the week.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (03:12):
All right, our top tech stories start with story
number one.
Is DeepSeek, the holy grail ofAI, or can China be the new
leader in technology and the AIfront?
Well, we still go to our buddy,corinne Westland, with more on
this story.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
DeepSeek challenged America's dominant position in
AI last week, when news got outthat a Chinese startup could
match the best chat GPT model byusing software instead of the
high-end hardware unavailable toAI firms in China.
Deepseek All right.
Nathan Mumm (04:00):
So does stealing OpenAI's 3.5 code really count
as a new technology?
Deepseek R1 is now live andopen source, rivaling OpenAI's
Model O1, available on WebAppand API.
Now the problem is, though, ifyou're trying to sign up for
DeepSeek right now, there's anerror due to the large scale of
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malicious attacks on DeepSeekservices, or can we say, maybe
those Pentium processors aren'trunning up to the speed that are
actually capable of producingai right now.
If you try to go online and youtry to register, it'll say that
you are not able to register orsign up.
They'll come back to you with athank you for your
understanding and support andthey'll tell you to please wait
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and try again at a later time.
Now OpenAI claims it hasevidence that the Chinese AI
startup DeepSeek utilizesproprietary models to train
their open source model,potentially breaching the
company's terms of service.
Now it's interesting becausewe're going to see what happens
here.
Microsoft jumps into here, andthere were some issues that were
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going on last year and aroundAugust September timeframe, and
it probably had to dospecifically with deep seek, so
we'll get more into that as wego and talk about this.
Now.
These findings revolve aroundthe method known as distillation
, so that's where developersleverage outputs from larger AI
models to train smaller ones.
Well, this practice is standardand there's tons of AI
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development firms out therewithin the United States and
across the globe.
So this is not a America versusChina issue here.
But the problem arises when youextract it from the platform to
develop your own model for yourown use.
Now, deepseek's R1 reasoningmodel has gardened significant
attention in the tech sector fordelivering comparable results
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to the top US models atastonishingly low cost.
Now these are claimed low cost.
We don't know if these areactually backed with any facts.
And again, I'm not on a factfinding mission because I kind
of do like some of thetechnology from China,
specifically my favorite littleapp, tiktok.
So it's not that I'm here tobash anything that's going on
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with China, but I do think whenyou start copying, somebody
start doing it at low cost.
This kind of reminds me of thehigh quality models versus,
maybe, a product that you canfind on Teemu, which would be a
little bit lesser of quality.
So you have to actually takeinto effect what happens when
people actually did this.
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Now we're going to take a lookhere a little bit more as we go
down here on just why OpenAI andcompanies like Google are also
jumping into this, to say thatthere's some significant issues
with this low cost.
Now the company claims that itinvested a merely $5.6 million
in development, a small fractioncompared to the typical
expenditures of companies likeOpenAI and Google.
The app recently and even Muskfor thinking of this, if you
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take a look at all the time andeffort he spent probably just
$5.6 million on the hardwarefrom NVIDIA that he diverted
from Tesla to go and actually beused for his Grok AI, which is
kind of pretty junky to beginwith, but this app kind of now
has reached the top spot in theApple App Store.
Deep Seek's R1 is to beconsidered one of the trending
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apps.
Now, not that we need to haveall of the accusations be backed
up, but our new White House AIczar, david Sachs and he's an
okay guy, so technology-wise, Ithink he's pretty firm on what
he does.
He was candidly stated sayingthat there's substantial
evidence that what DeepSeek didis distill knowledge from OpenAI
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models, and I don't thinkOpenAI is very pleased about it.
It was quote-unquote what hesaid on Fox News regarding
OpenAI's accusation.
Now the ongoing controversy hasalready impacted the market,
with NVIDIA experiencing a 17%drop shares last week, a recent
record $589 billion market value.
Now it's probably overrated andinvestors are questioning the
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necessity of high powered AIhardware investments when
companies can achieve similaroutcomes with fewer resources.
I'd say that the fewerresources is has not been
substantially backed up yet tobe a model that can actually be
used and worked with.
Now, open AI and Microsoftinvestigated and suspended
accounts in August due tosuspected terms of service
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violations and now believe theseaccounts were connected to
DeepSeek.
However, both companies havereframed from disclosing
specific details regarding theirevidence, so they're kind of
backing their evidence up,saying that there were some
issues here that make sense towhy they had to actually alter
accounts that were usingtechnology.
Although the market faced acrash last Monday we talked
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about, hardware will play asignificant role in the ongoing
US-China AI conflict andthere'll be increased focus on
software optimization concept.
Deepseek's technology might nothave a direct advantage for
anybody else, but Apple could bepartnering in on this, which is
one of the few companiesrelatively untouched by the
crash.
I suspect that Apple couldapply partnering in on this,
which is one of the fewcompanies relatively untouched
by the crash.
I suspect that Apple couldapply some of DeepSeek's ideas
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to enhance its AI models, aimingto improve Apple intelligence
on the iPhone with iOS 19 andfuture updates.
My point is not that Appleshould embed DeepSeek into the
iPhone, similar to how ChatGPTand other chatbot services are
being integrated, but I thinktheir approach to have some
clear software processes inplace could help actually Apple
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choosing to integrate withDeepSeek into some of its Apple
devices in China.
Now Apple struggles in theChina market, a crucial market
where iPhone sales continue todecline market a crucial market
where iPhone sales continue todecline.
If they could actually jumpinto some of the deep seek AI
into its iOS, I think it couldactually probably leverage that
to become a more dominant playerin the China area.
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And it does seem that Appleintelligence is impressed with
the information that they havereceived from both chat, gpt and
Gemini features from Google andincluding on the Pixel and
Android devices that it's stilllooking to come up from its
infancy stages to take a look atwhat can be happening with
DeepSeek.
So let's talk about whatDeepSeek is.
(10:15):
All right.
Deepseek is processes that havebeen talked about.
We don't have all of the fullinformation exactly what's going
on, because people haven'tdived in and been there.
They are getting tons of pressrelease and information that has
been passed out, and the appdoes seem to work pretty good.
The problem is, though, it'snothing newer than what you
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would have gotten that I've seenon anything besides the AI
models that OpenAI has forChatGPT 3.5, which is a pretty
outdated large language model.
A large language model is themain data set that you use to
have your AI create theresponses and come up with this
logic and algorithms to decipherwhat you're asking it to do.
(10:59):
So, as much as that may be great, that DeepSeq took an older
technology, an older largelanguage model was able to
condense it into probably a muchmore profitable environment, is
standard in almost everytechnology we have.
Look at your telephones that wehad back in the 80s and 90s, if
you were around that time.
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Those telephones had hugecircuit boards, information in
there, and that was just topress ones and zeros and nines
and digit numbers to receive acode so you could actually
transmit that information toconnect with another connecting
device, to actually transfer avoice conversation.
Now what would you have today?
A little microchip that sits ina phone, and my phone itself is
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a supercomputer compared towhat we had just 10 years ago.
It doesn't mean that I had toreplace the technology with
newer technology for the factthat it needed to be done.
But what happens is is astechnology evolves, you can do
faster and faster and quickeritems without having to have
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that big circuitry that you hadto have before.
But that doesn't do anything ofwhat happened on AT&T and Bell
when they had to actually do theresearch into the technology of
how to condense these items.
So taking a software platformafter someone has spent years
and years developing a hardwareplatform to come up with what is
available is kind of a normalprocess.
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So I don't know why people aregoing on this huge rampage for
DeepSeek and that this is thenext new app that's going to
take over the world.
It may be the next cheap appthat you can get.
That's probably five or sixyears dated.
Again, if you don't have aproblem with outdated
information or older information, then you know what DeepSeek is
going to be there for you atprobably one-eighth of the price
that you can pay for OpenAI orother devices.
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But for me and for, hopefully,my clientele, we're going to
want to stick with somethingthat we know is cutting edge,
and for that I am still a bigcomponent of OpenAI, and ChatGPT
is my platform, includingMicrosoft Bing.
All right, that's a little bit.
Welcome to the kind of off therails segments.
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We go a little bit longer on.
These technologies probably geta little bit more deeper.
So I apologize for any newlisteners that may be listening
to our unplugged episode.
This is what you get when youget, once every two or three
years, an unplugged episode.
You get a lot more technology.
Talk from Nathan.
All right, let's go on to storynumber two.
Story number two Tesla is setto introduce a self-driving car
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service in Texas this June.
According to Elon Musk, therollout will initialize the
Model Y and Model 3 vehicles,with the cyber cab expected to
debut in 2027.
All right, so we've beentalking about Waymo.
I'm sure everybody's seen thevideo for the Waymo that was out
there, the car that kept ongoing around circles and circles
as the guy was trying to go tothe airport and leave.
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Pretty sensational little video.
The guy calls up customerservices.
I say I need help.
But Musk, you know he's got tobe in the news.
If it's not today, it's got tobe tomorrow, and if it's not
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tomorrow, it's got to betomorrow and if it's not
tomorrow it's the next day.
So he decided that he's goingto be rolling out, of course,
his own cyber cab solution in2027.
Now musk indicated that by juneunsupervised teslas great kind
of like unsupervised kids wouldbe operating in austin, although
the deployment will be gradual.
So everybody in aust, when itcomes July 4th, be careful out
there, because you can have allthese unsupervised Teslas
Hopefully they don't run incircles and that everything is
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working well, but they're goingto be.
Deployment will be gradually,says.
Last year he had mentioned toinvestors at target launch in
2025 for the self-drivingservice in both California and
Texas, and it appears thatthey're on track.
During the fourth quarter.
Earning calls must confirm thatAustin would be the test market
with self-driving capabilitiesexpected to launch as early as
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June of 2025.
Quote-unquote.
We're confident that we willbegin unsupervised, fully
autonomous driving in Austin andJune must stated.
Our Fremont factory already hasTeslas operating fully
autonomously with no one insideand we plan to implement that on
our Texas facility soon.
Tesla did not respond toquestions or comments.
(15:17):
Reports about Teslacollaborating with Austin for
relegatory approval firstemerged in December through
emails obtained by Bloomberg,although that had not been
finalized.
Austin is the launch site atthe time, so either Musk's got
that taken care of or he's kindof just hoping that that's going
to happen soon.
Musk shared limited specifics,but noted that there are
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thousands of cars quote unquoteoperating around the Fremont
factory fully autonomous.
Yeah, the company is ready toadvance its unsupervised full
self-driving technology to manyus regions by year end, likely
starting with california andtexas.
Initially, they were expectedfor cybercab to be used at that
time, but it's gonna have towait until 2027.
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Tesla rely on the model y andModel 3.
In summary, 2025 is a criticalyear for Tesla, musk remarked,
calling it potential for thecompany's most significant year
ever.
Despite the ambitious plans,musk emphasized the importance
of a cautious approach to therollout.
We intend to start graduallyensuring everything is safe for
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the general public andpassengers first, he expressed.
Now Tesla's cautious stancecomes from the light of
challenges faced by self-drivingtaxi services recently, Through
.
Statistics indicatedself-driving vehicles are
generally safer thanhuman-operated.
There's still been some notableincidents California halted
cruises, driverless cars in 2023due to safety issues in the
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Waymo fist scrutiny.
2023 due to safety issues inthe Waymo fist scrutiny.
And 2024 with two autonomouscars collided with a tow truck
twice in one day.
Musk explained that Tesla's AIwill operate differently than
the most autonomous systems, butnot rely on high precision
local maps.
Instead, it will utilize AI toanalyze surroundings and make
real-time decisions.
Austin will act as a testingground to ensure the vehicles
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drive effectively beforeexpanding to other regions,
which, with a broader launchanticipated soon after, austin,
is going well, all right.
So what does people think aboutthat?
So we got Elon Musk out here.
He's really busy now working atthe White House occasionally
when he's allowed in there, andthen all of a sudden now he's
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going to have his autonomous AIcars.
Now I got some hope for this.
You know, I think Austin is aninteresting area to be used as a
testing ground.
I don't know if that would bemy first choice, for this will
be interested in is that I dothink in the next five or six
(17:45):
years, we are going to have awhole service slew of autonomous
AI driven cars.
So when you need to go to thatlocal airport, there's not going
to be the Uber driver, it'sgoing to be the Uber version two
, where you get picked up,someone comes on it there
autonomously, you can throw yourbags in there and boom, you
drive to the airport.
I just don't know in my localtraffic how well that will work.
(18:08):
So that ai better be on top ofthings.
Because if you're not willingto take a little bit of a risk
here on i-5 to get into seattlepast the sea tack area to go on
our major international airport,then uh, you're going to be
waiting for hours and hours, andhours.
(18:32):
All right, well, moving on,let's take a look at story
number three.
This is our last story.
This comes to me with a littlebit of a sigh and a little bit
of grin.
At the same time, mexicorequests Google Maps to retain
the name the Gulf of Mexico.
So I'm sure everybody's heardby now that our new president
has wanted to rename the Gulf ofMexico to the Gulf of Mexico.
So I'm sure everybody's heardby now that our new president
has wanted to rename the Gulf ofMexico to the Gulf of America.
But Mexico's president, claudiaShinboms, has sent a letter to
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Google urging the company toreconsider its decision that it
did to rename the Gulf of Mexico.
In the first week in the office,us President Donald Trump
signed an executive order tomandate that the body of water
bordering the US, cuba andMexico be referred to now as the
Gulf of America.
The new name will only bevisible to users in the US, so
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he actually got this changed.
As a president, when you decideto create an executive order
and name stuff, I guess ifyou're a software company in
that country, you're probablygoing to want to do that also.
Now it will remain globally theGulf of Mexico, to maintain its
historical name, which has beenused for centuries.
However, mexico contends thatthe US cannot legally alter the
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Gulf's name, since the UnitedNations Convention on the Law of
the Sea stipulates that thecountry's sovereign territory
extends only 12 nautical milesfrom its coastline.
Google has yet to respond torequests for comments.
On Monday, though, however, thecompany stated that we have a
long-lasting practice ofapplying name changes when
they're updated in officialgovernment sources.
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It has also revert Mount Denalito Mount McKinley in the US,
adhering to another one ofTrump's orders.
When official names differbetween countries, map users
will see their respective localname.
That has been added, claims theGulf of America is being used
by the staff within the WhiteHouse.
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Trump issued the executiveorder to rename it from the Gulf
of Mexico and for the entireworld it's still known as the
Gulf of Mexico, but if you're inthe United States, you can now
take a look at that on GoogleMaps.
Apple Maps and Bing Maps havenot updated at this time.
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I'm going to read you theheadlines and brief information
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going to be a lie.
Do you know which one it is?
And now we have two truths anda lie.
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How we do this is normally wehave two or three other people
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and I kind of go through and Iread them subjects that are very
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But we're going to take acouple of stories here.
I'm going to give the headlinesfrom them.
You're going to kind of see ifthat's actually what's going on
or is not going on, and we'regoing to have you actually play
with it at home.
Now these are all being takenfrom top websites, so these are
stories that are actuallystandard geek areas that are
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there.
So number one we're going to betalking about story number one
here.
Can you see uncensored versionsof DeepSeek through Perplexity?
All right, so if you've beenconsidering trying DeepSeek, the
host new AI app from China, butputting off concerns about
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privacy and censorship, you'llbe interested to know there's a
new tweaked version of DeepSeekR1 model available inside
Perplexity censorship.
You'll be interested to knowthere's a new tweaked version of
DeepSeek R1 model availableinside Perplexity.
Perlexity is a long-giving userchoice of in-house and
third-party AIs for answeringprompts.
The DeepSeek R1 is the latesttechnology we talked about.
Perplexity co-founder ArvindServin has promised the
censorship guardrails have beentaken off.
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So, yes, you can ask about TianTinaman Square and anything
associated that you wantedwithin the United States or out.
Now DeepSeek has an optioninside of Perplexity that can be
used today.
So is that a story that is trueor false?
Has somebody input DeepSeek AIinto their app itself?
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All right, okay, microsoft 365is raising prices and ditching
its free VPN.
Story number two All right, isthis true or false?
Paying more and gettingseamlessly standard operating
procedures these days?
Certainly that's what Microsoft365, the fancy name for
(25:04):
Microsoft Office, users havebeen about to experience.
The service includes VPN isbeing dropped as of February
28th, according to a supportnote on the Microsoft site.
The company routinely evaluatesthe uses of effectiveness for
their features and decided VPNis no longer a necessary part of
the Microsoft 365 service.
As VPNs go, it was only okay.
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The truth is, microsoft VPNcame with 50 gigabyte monthly
data limits didn't allow you totrick your browser into thinking
you were else place in theworld.
So it was a free VPN that camewith your service and it's now
going to be dropped.
But if you want to continuewith a 365 subscription price
hike, you can pay $3 more permonth roughly a 43% increase to
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get additional services thatcould still be used with any
other VPN service.
All right, and story numberthree Apple Music has an amazing
deal for new users right now.
There's a lot of music streamingservices to choose from right
now.
Many of them subscribe toSpotify or Apple Music, or
(26:15):
myself I use Amazon MusicService.
It's about a hundred bucks ayear, but I find it to be pretty
entertaining, as most of thesongs and stations I want.
But if you still are likeothers, you use YouTube Music,
amazon Music or Tidal.
Those are all pros and cons,but the price is the most
important fact to you.
It's a good time to check outApple's offering.
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Apple Music will usually cost$10.99 for individual users,
$16.99 for family and $5.99 forstudents, $16.99 for family and
$5.99 for students.
But you are now eligible fornew subscribers only six months
of Apple Music for $1.99.
That's not $1.
That's $1.99 less than a coffee.
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Just think of the totalavailable for you.
All right, so those are thethree stories.
So I got Apple Music.
Of course, only has a newsubscriber deal for $199 as a
story that was available.
There we go back to theMicrosoft 365 is raising its
prices and ditching to its freeVPN service.
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And story number one wasregarding the integration of
DeepSeek into a third-party app.
So if you're playing at homeand you guessed that number one
DeepSeek is being pushed into athird-party app, that would be a
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truth If you're looking forstory number two.
Story number two was regardingMicrosoft 365 raising its prices
and ditching its free VPN.
That is true also.
And so story number three, theApple services that are going to
be coming on out are going tobe reduced for the first six
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months, but it's going to be at$299 instead of the $199 price
tag.
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different.
We don't have Mike, odie orMark in the studio today.
It's just myself talking on themicrophone, with a little bit
of music here and there thatwill be added in and we'll see
how things go.
Our regular scheduledprogramming will be back next
week, so take a look at it.
We will have gadgets and gear,gal Gwen way on the show.
Following that, we have NickEspinosa coming on up and we
(30:19):
have tons of mystery guests thatare going to be a part of our
show also.
So we're pretty excited aboutthat.
This show is being recorded.
Just myself.
Old-fashioned back when youhave one mic and you kind of
talk into it and then you do alittle bit of editing here and
there afterwards.
But we're excited to be talkingabout technology.
I'm excited to be here and wecan't wait to have our new
(30:41):
studio in place, ready to go.
So now you know what we'regoing to take a look at.
We're going to take a look atthis week in technology and now
let's look back at this week intechnology all right, we're
going to the way back machine.
we're going.
February 4th 2024 facebook isborn.
(31:04):
Mark Zuckerberg launches theFacebook, which later becomes
Facebook.
The world changes forever.
The story of Facebook tracesits transformation from a
college networking platform to aworldwide social media giant.
Now, mark Zuckerberg, theco-founder of Facebook, began
this journey in his Harvard dormroom in November 2005.
(31:26):
In 2003, while studying atHarvard University, he launched
a website named FaceMash.
The site was akin to hot or not, using images from online
Facebooks and inviting users toselect the hotter person.
Although Zuckerberg facedexpulsion for this project, the
charge were ultimately dropped.
A quote-unquote Facebook is adirectory of students showcasing
(31:51):
their photos and personaldetails.
Now, in January of 2004,zuckerberg created a new site
called the Facebook, assertingthe technology required to
develop a centralized site thatwas readily available.
The advantages were numerous.
He partnered with a fellowstudent, edward Severin, and
they committed $1,000 each tothe project.
(32:13):
On February 4, 2004, zuckerbergofficially launched
quote-unquote the Facebook.
At first, access was limited toHarvard College students.
At first, access was limited toHarvard College students.
To support the site's expansion, though, dustin Muscoff, andrew
McCollum and Chris Huges joinedZuckerberg.
The platform eventually openedup to various universities
(32:34):
across the US and Canada.
In 2004, sean Parker, theco-founder of Napster, took on
the role of the companypresident, and Facebook moved
its headquarters to Palo Alto,california.
In 2005, the company droppedthe from the name, obtaining the
domain night to Facebookcom.
Well, that was this week intechnology.
(32:58):
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We're going to take acommercial break.
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The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's
Whiskey Mumble.
Nathan Mumm (34:06):
All right, well, this is not Mark's Whiskey
Mumble.
All right, well, this is notMark's Whiskey Mumble.
This is Nathan talking aboutwhat he is drinking.
He is drinking a simple JackDaniels distilled from the Jack
Daniel Company from TennesseeWhiskey produced by the Jack
Daniel Distillery in Lunchburg,tennessee, which is owned by the
Brown Forman Corporation since1956.
(34:28):
Packaged in square bottles,jack Daniel's Black Label
Tennessee whiskey sold 12.9million liters in 2017.
Other brands variations such asTennessee Honey, tennessee
Apple Gentleman Jack andTennessee Fire are ready to
drink products that also includemore than 16.1 million in sales
during that same time.
(34:49):
Now, jack Daniels' brandofficial website suggests that
its founder, jasper Newton JackDaniels, was born in 1850.
His tombstone bears that date,but says the exact birth date is
unknown.
The company's website says thatit's customary to celebrate his
birthday in September.
According to Tennessee StateLibrary website, in 2013,
(35:09):
records list his birth date asSeptember 5th, 1846.
So, jack Daniels verytraditional.
You'll see this anywhere.
Little Jack Daniels and Cokegoes really well.
Little Jack Daniels andlemonade goes really well.
This was kind of the standardthat I use, produced now with
(35:31):
the lower end green label at 80proof is what I enjoy most of
the time, but I do get the blacklabel, which is 90 proof.
So you know what?
Whiskey connoisseurs that arelistening to today's show you're
going to be very disappointedto know that Nathan, your radio
host, enjoys just a simple JackDaniels, all right.
(35:51):
Well, you know what?
Nothing like having a littlewhiskey pairing with technology,
right, and we always make acomparison.
So I'm going to compare thisshow to like puppets in the
Muppet Show.
You can't have the.
Muppet Show without Kermit theFrog or Fozzie Bear some of the
greatest puppets and puppeteersknown for their technology.
(36:12):
But now let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week,
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Nathan Mumm (36:36):
Yes, All right, we're going to be talking.
Our technology fail.
Well, we're going right over toDeepSeek.
This episode is DeepSeekcentric.
So DeepSeek exposes a databasewith over 1 million chat records
.
So this is what happens whenyou are a software company that
is borrowing or stealing otherpeople's information.
When you go and steal it, youneed to make sure on the open
(36:57):
source that if you're going touse information, you secure it.
But you know what?
Deepseek, the Chinese AIstartup, may be really good for
coming up with AI models, buttheir security systems are
flawed.
Now DeepSeek, the China AIstartup known for DeepSeek R1LM
model, is publicly exposed todatabase containing sensitive
user and operational information.
(37:18):
The unsecured ClickHouseinstance reported held over a
million log entries containinguser chat histories in plain
text form, API keys, backenddetails and operational metadata
.
Wizz Research discovered thisexposure during the security
assessment of DeepSeq's externalinfrastructure exposure.
During the security assessmentof DeepSeek's external
infrastructure, the securityfirm found two publicly
(37:42):
accessible database instancesauthorized to call back DeepSeek
port 900 and DeepSeek port 900for DeepSeekcom that allowed
arbitrary SQL queries via theweb interface without requiring
authentication to go into theirbackend models.
So if you're going to be usingDeepSeek, the Chinese AI startup
company understand thatanything that you may do
(38:04):
chat-wise, any queries you mayput in, all that information
could be available for otherhackers to take a look and see
what's your username, accountback information details, API
keys, and know everything you'researching on.
Wouldn't that be great if OpenAIdecided to release all of their
search algorithms that peoplehave put into their AI searches
(38:25):
and decided to publicly exposethose for each user's name and
information?
Probably not.
That's why you should probablystick with an AI service that is
in the United States.
All right, we're going to headout to our last commercial break
.
When we return, we have aNathan Nuggets and we're going
to have our pick of the day,which you guys already heard
about, so don't worry about that.
(38:47):
But if you do have some whiskeyor a pop or a soda or anything
you'd like to raise a glass to,why don't you do that while you
listen to this commercial break?
We'll see you after this.
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Nathan Mumm (39:25):
Welcome back to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm
, the week at our technologyshow that talks about current
technology in a simple formatwithout having to geek out.
I'm your host, nathan Mumm, andwe are on the Nathan Mumm
special episode.
We call this Tech Time RadioUnplugged.
It is just myself here.
We're talking about differenttechnologies.
All my main staff have thisweek off, so hopefully they're
(39:48):
enjoying the time off and I'menjoying a little bit of time
putting the stories together.
One of the big things that Ireally enjoy about doing the
radio show is all the researchand information that I get to do
for the shows each week.
So I love learning about newtechnology and I used to do this
many hours and many timesacross different platforms and
(40:11):
different jobs that I've hadwithin the United States.
And what I really enjoy isspending the time to do the
research of stories that breakon the headlines and actually
see if that information is validor if it's not valid or what
information is important for theindustry, and then try to get
some of those sub stories thatare a little bit smaller out
(40:33):
there that people might not hearabout, so we can talk about
them instead of the attentiongrabbing areas.
We're going to do our Nathannugget here and I'm going to be
talking a little bit kind ofreminiscing about what we have
coming up for this year's showand technology item here, and
we're going to be doing a littlebit of reminiscing about how
(40:53):
the show gets made.
So let's get ready for ourNathan nugget.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
This is your nugget of the week.
Nathan Mumm (41:02):
All right.
This Nathan nugget comes to usfrom the California Institute of
Technology.
Printable molecules.
Selective nanoparticles enablemass production of wearable
biosensors, so this is somethingthat has come across just
recently.
It's pretty interesting in whatCaltech engineers have
(41:23):
developed.
They developed a technique forinkjet printing arrays and
special nanoparticles thatenable a mass production of a
long-lasting wearable sweatsensor.
The sensors could be used tomonitor a variety of biomarkers,
such as vitamins, hormones,medications, in real time,
providing patients and theirphysicians with the ability to
(41:45):
continually flow through changesof levels of the molecules.
Wearable biosensors thatincorporate the new
nanoparticles have beensuccessfully used to monitor
metabolite in patients sufferingfrom long COVID, as the levels
of the chemotherapy drugs incancer patients at the City of
Hope in California have alsoused the same technology.
(42:08):
These are just two examples ofwhat is possible, says Wiege,
the professor of medicalengineering in the Andrew and
Peggy Department of MedicalEngineering at Caltech.
There are many chronicconditions, and biomarkers and
sensors now give us thepossibility to monitor
continuously and non-evasivelythe information.
Importantly in this new studyis the research combines
(42:32):
specially formatted polymers andnanoparticle cores made of
nickel hydrate, and they can beiodized and reduced under
applied electrical voltage incontact with human sweat and the
body then takes these fluids tocome on out and give a NAICF
(42:52):
core report on the vitaminsthemselves.
So great news is coming on out.
Just think that in the futureyou're going to be able to have
printable nanoparticles-enabledproducting.
So think of your HP printerbeing able to print out
nanoparticles like ink, creatingan inexpensive way to see how
(43:12):
you're doing and to see what'sgoing on.
I can see athletes using this.
I can see many other peopleusing this, but some cool
breaking technology news.
So let's talk a little bit.
We have some time here.
I got about 10 minutes and sowe're going to wrap up the show
here with kind of some thoughtsof just what we're going to be
looking for coming up this yearon Tech Time Radio and some of
(43:35):
the reasons on why we actuallydo Tech Time itself.
So this is a little bit of aNathan Nugget and a little bit
of kind of an intro into what wehave going on over our four
plus years and what we'relooking to do in the next four
plus years.
So welcome everybody.
If this is your first show,this is going to be a unique
show, so please either listen tothe repeat from last week our
CES best of the best from CESand kind of the weirdest of the
(43:58):
weird, or listen to our nextweek show and we have Gwen way
on our standard show withgadgets and gear and everybody
back in the studio.
But I haven't had a time toreally pause with the show has
been going on for four plusyears and really kind of
communicate and talk about whywe created the show, what's
behind the show, why we do theshow, what's behind the show,
why we do the show itself.
As we talked about a little bitbefore we got into the Nathan
(44:20):
Nugget, this show is reallybased upon the research and
technology of myself and what Iwould consider a Saturday
morning sit down with anewspaper and coffee.
I kind of like to sit down withan energy drink, a Rockstar or
a Monster or something with alot of caffeine.
And then I'll do is I'll justkind of breeze through and take
(44:42):
a look at technology articlesfrom the BBC, from Wired
Magazine, tons of differentlocations that I have.
I have about 132 differentlittle websites that I have
taken off information from andwhat I'll do is I'll just go
through and I'll pick a subjectfor the day or I'll just pick a
(45:04):
whatever trending topic is.
And then what I'll do is I'llkind of go through that and I'll
kind of do some research and dosome deep diving.
So just to take a look here atmy link I have the bbc news,
cnet, digital trends in gadgetgizmodo, how to geek the latest
from tech, radar, life hacker,mashable, the new york techno
(45:24):
times, technology pc world slashdot, tech crunch, the next web,
the verge wired, yahootechnology and a bunch of other
uh and the tech, a bunch ofother technology folders that I
subscribe to with articles thatI go through and read pretty
much on a weekly basis, uh,normally on a Saturday or a
(45:46):
Sunday morning, and what I'll dois, uh, that when we decided to
do the shows, uh, it was duringCOVID and there was not a whole
lot of social interaction thatwas going on, and so me and Mr
Gorday Mike Gorday decided toget together and kind of put
together a show and we talkabout technology and Mr Gorday
at that time was a little bitmore technology friendly.
(46:09):
Now he's kind of anti-AI, asyou guys will always hear.
He's kind of our curmudgeon onthe show itself and he doesn't
like this or doesn't like thistype of deal.
We started with an engineer atour radio station.
His name was David and Davidwas a pretty funny guy and
didn't really know howtechnology worked very well, but
he would try to run our boardand most of the time it would
(46:30):
work.
And every once in a while itwouldn't work and we continued
our show for quite a long time.
We expanded Tech Time Radiointo a two-hour show, which I'd
really love to do again, butit's tough to get that much time
in the recording studio withall of our staff.
They all have very busy livesand they're all busy doing
different things, so it's toughto get that area.
(46:53):
We expanded to a bunch of oursatellite stations that you're
probably listening to Tech TimeRadio now on, whether that's in
the Bay Area, in Boston, in NewYork, in Florida, all of our
substations which are a greatpart of our family, of our 35
million listeners.
We thank them a lot forrebroadcasting our shows and
(47:14):
putting it out there, and so wewere having a great time.
We expanded again to thetwo-hour show.
Then we decided to move to anew studio.
We wanted to kind of move upfrom the studio that we were at
into a new studio in downtownSeattle, and that's when Odie
became our producer for our showand has been a part of our show
since.
(47:35):
Mark Gregoire and I go back along time working at a company
together Not Microsoft, notVulcan, but another company that
I worked at and so he wasalways kind of into whiskey and
drinking and I told him I'dcreated a show and he said he
should do one a little bit aboutwhiskey, and I liked whiskey.
(47:57):
He knew that I liked whiskeyenough and I said, well, I just
want to make sure I do somethingthat doesn't run out.
And let me just tell you we'vebeen doing this show for four
years and I think we're probablyonly a third of the way through
all the whiskeys that we canget.
I have new whiskeys that getsent to our show.
I get new whiskeys that I pickup all the time.
(48:19):
But I do enjoy the early dayswhen I would actually go to a
wines and more or a whiskeystore in our local area and I go
through and I pick out thecheapest whiskeys I can and see
if any of them were any good andso kind of been known as the
cheap whiskey drinker because ofthat sense.
Now we had Mark join as ourwhiskey connoisseur.
He's a part of a bunch ofwhiskey clubs and we enjoy him
being here.
He's also a technologist as aside job, so all three of us put
(48:44):
together most of the shows.
Gwen Way you'll see as ourgadgets and gear gal next week
on the show.
She's a producer with our showtoo.
She's been a part of ourlong-term show and the idea was
to create a show that did notcome to you from the political
right wing or the political leftwing did not put politics into
(49:06):
most of the information thatthey have.
If I report something thatBiden did or if I reported
something that Trump did, it'sjust the information on the
technology side of what's goingon.
So you're aware of that.
We do have people, I believe,in our staff that are on both
sides of who they would vote for, and so we try to keep this all
very unpolitical, which doesmake our station a little bit in
(49:29):
our programming a little bitmore what I would say tougher to
grasp into because we're notpolarizing on one side or
polarizing on the other side.
So we do appreciate kind ofkeeping it neutral and talking
about how technology applies toour life and what is going on
with technology, our upcomingyear.
(49:50):
This year we have a new studio,so we are going to be moving
into producing a lot morecontent.
We're going to be moving intoproducing a lot more content.
We're going to be looking atproducing content.
That will be a lot of offlinemyself doing this in itself and
then there'll be a lot of onlinestuff where there will be us
doing our standard streams.
We have moved into a newerstudio that was all just rebuilt
(50:16):
specifically for us to moveinto.
The sound is fantastic.
It's dead, so we can yell asmuch as we want and we're not
going to hear anything of what'sgoing on.
And what we plan to do is bringyou continuing guests continuing
and returning individuals suchas Nick Espinosa and James
Riddle.
Guests continuing to returningindividuals such as Nick
(50:38):
Espinosa and James Riddle, andhopefully we get Phil Hennessey
back here on our show coming uphere soon and then we're going
to bring in a bunch of newguests that will be talking
about technology.
We like that the new guestscome.
Some people really enjoy them.
Sometimes not as much.
Sometimes it's a little bitmore difficult to work with,
because when you have a newguest that's coming on in, they
don't know our radio audienceand normally they're trying to
push something or sell something, so we always want to talk with
(51:00):
them about their technologyversus what they're trying to
sell.
Upcoming, we're going to do acouple of crazy episodes, I
expect, for 4th of July.
I do know that we're going tonow have the opportunity to take
the show a lot more on the road, so that's something that we're
going to look to do.
We've done one remote locationone time, but I do think that we
(51:21):
will be doing now more remotelocations.
I do think such events like CESnext year for 2026, you'll
probably do a live show fromdown there in itself, or maybe
two or three shows that we putin with people that will be
coming on in and interviewingthem for our show itself, and so
there's a lot of great plansthat we're planning to do.
(51:42):
We're still planning on havingsome of the sense of humor Some
of the whiskey stuff is notgoing away but we're trying to
develop a more rounded show initself that people can listen to
.
Now I do appreciate feedbackthat we get.
We get some feedback not alwayspositive and not always
negative, kind of very neutralbut we'd love for you guys to go
(52:03):
on and visit us attechtimeradiocom and click on
the webpage and go and decide toput a comment in one of our
YouTube videos or go and take alook at a comment between
something else that we talkedabout.
We do have a talk back on ourtechtimeradiocom site that we
would love for people to go toalso, so we'd love for you guys
(52:24):
to go and visit that and ask usa question and then we can
actually do some of ourtechnology expertise and trying
to figure out what's going on.
This is the weekend leading upto the Super Bowl, so, as a
Nathan nugget, this is a timewhere I always talk about some
of the best times to go and buyTVs.
(52:44):
If you're looking as a consumerlevel, right now, tvs the
newest TVs that were justpresented at CES may still be
coming on out, probably normallyquarter two and quarter three
of this year, but all of thecurrent Christmas specials or
the Christmas high-end itemsthat are there are now all on
sale, so you can buy three$4,000 televisions for the
(53:07):
Superbowl weekend that's comingon up, or I guess you're
supposed to call it the, thesuper Sunday.
You're not supposed to saySuperbowl, but the Super Sunday
show that's coming on up betweenKansas City Chiefs and the
Philadelphia Eagles.
We'll see if the three-peathappens, but now is the time to
go out and buy a TV.
Go down to your big box store.
(53:27):
Find a TV that is there.
Take a look at the items thatare available there.
Maybe go visit a electronicsspecialty store that's available
.
All of them are going to behaving sales on.
So this is the time if you'relooking to get that great deal
that you want to make sure youtake a look at, because there's
nothing better than that.
(53:48):
Well, when you hear this, youknow what that means.
And we're getting close to theend of our show.
It means I got a minute 26 totalk about what else we have
coming on up.
I appreciate you joining theunplugged show.
That was probably a little bitdifferent.
If this again, if you're firsttime listening to it, please do
not judge us on this show.
This show was done as aspecialty show.
(54:11):
This will not be what younormally get for our normal
programming, but you know what.
You'll be excited to see whatwe have next week with Mark,
mike and Odi all back that aregoing to just be chomping at the
bit.
So we're about out of time.
We want to thank our listenersfor joining the program.
Listeners who want to hear fromyou again, go to
(54:31):
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Be a caller or ask.
Ask a question On anytechnology item in our TalkBack
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Try to find something that canstump me, stump Mr Gourdet or
stump Mark.
That would be fantastic.
You can always stay connectedby signing up for our newsletter
and staying up to date on thelatest technology trends For all
(54:52):
of us at Tech Time.
It was an honor to be on theshow today to host this.
Remember the science oftomorrow starts with the
technology of the today.
We'll see you next week.
Bye-bye.
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