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Now on today's show.
Nathan Mumm (01:42):
All right.
Today on the program, nickEspinoza from Security Fanatics
joins the show to shed somelight on obscure items,
including a state-sponsoredhackers collaborating with
cybercriminal groups, making iteven more challenging to track.
Ai has faced a significantdefeat in copyright and
intellectual property lawsuit,establishing a new industry
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precedent, and we're going tocover some startling news that
Apple has been mandated tosecretly circumvent its own
encryption.
Next, we'll dive into theevolution of dating, examining
how Bumble and other dating appsare becoming irrelevant in the
new landscape that createsinitiatives and individuals to
connect online.
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The IRS is making waves withNVIDIA.
We'll provide further detailson this.
And lastly, be cautious of apirate game that can steal your
real money and accountinformation while you play.
In addition, of course, we haveour standard features,
including Mike's mesmerizingmoment, our technology fail of
the week and a possible Nathannugget and, of course, our pick
of the day whiskey tasting tosee if our selected whiskey pick
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gets zero, one or two thumbs upat the end of the show.
But you know what?
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Now it's time for us
to head to the latest headlines
in the world of technology.
Here are our top technologystories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:59):
All right Story
number one Amazoncom has
instructed hundreds andthousands of employees to return
to their office full time orseek new employment.
But many office lack thesupport with desks, chairs and
even the space to put people inthese offices.
Let's go to Corinne Westlandfor more on this story.
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Amazon has a space
shortage and this has caused the
e-commerce giant to delay thereturn-to-work mandate at
numerous locations in the US.
This includes Houston, Atlantaand New York City.
Workers assigned to certainoffices are still waiting for
clarity on when they can returnto the workplace full-time.
Others, who are back five daysa week, find themselves without
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any teammates nearby.
They struggle with parking,securing a workspace and finding
private rooms for video calls.
Is hot swapping desks the newnormal for Amazon?
Nathan Mumm (03:58):
That question will
be best discussed with you guys
back in the studio.
Mike Gorday (04:01):
All right, have you
heard about?
Nathan Mumm (04:05):
this hot swapping
desk idea, mike, not no, what is
it?
Tell me about it.
Okay, okay, so the idea here soamazon has 350 000 corporate
workers that we're all told toreturn to office five days a
week.
So since they have shifts,right, so they have, like
delivery people that are a partof this.
Mike Gorday (04:18):
so they're just
common desks.
You don't get to.
You don't get to.
Uh, claim it as your own desk.
Nathan Mumm (04:23):
You don't and what
they do is they literally.
Right now, amazon, specificallydown in the bay area, is having
problems with um having peoplecome on in in the queue like 30
minutes before their shiftstarts at their desk so that
they can then wait for theperson to end their shift, take
their pc, unplug it from theirdocking station and then they
get their pc out of a locker andthey put it in and they plug it
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in and then they start workingyep, this is a prime example of
how a corporate entity has noidea what human behavior is like
and is only interested ingetting their money.
Okay, well, this is what's thiswas happening to amazon, yes, od
they got rid of the work fromhome aspect right yes, everybody
.
According to, according to AndyJesse, the chief executive
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officer, he deemed thateverybody had to return to the
office for work.
Do they explain why?
This is just a mandate and ifyou didn't return to work then
you would lose your job.
Mike Gorday (05:19):
This is an
arbitrary FU to employees across
the company.
Ody (05:25):
And I get that.
I understand you want tosupervise your workers in like a
corporate mindset, but if youdon't have the space for it, why
bother?
Nathan Mumm (05:34):
Well, listen to
that.
San Francisco Bay area has 18offices and out of those 18
offices, in most of the area thecompany is short.
At least 800 desks, yeah.
So they don't even have desksfor these people to come into,
not even for hot swapping.
No, that's the problem.
Mike Gorday (05:51):
You know, when the
pandemic happened and we were
all forced to do this, theylooked at this and said, hey,
this is a really good idea toget rid of some overhead.
So they dropped a bunch oftheir office leases, right yeah,
they got rid of theirinfrastructure because everybody
was at home.
And now, when we've come out ofthe pandemic and everybody's
like, oh, we need to go back tothe old way of doing stuff,
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they're ordering people to comeback to the office, but they're
not providing the infrastructureand they're forgetting a lot of
things that are going to causethem problems when this goes
into full effect.
And they probably areexperiencing this because, as
people, we, we we don't workwell when we don't have spaces
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that we can personalize or claimor whatever.
So this is a big problem.
Nathan Mumm (06:38):
Bay area uh,
employees are having to park
almost a mile away to findsignificant parking areas that
will allow them to park theirvehicle there at an affordable
rate so they can go to work.
So just think about taking thatgood seven minute mile.
In high school you rememberrunning that mile back in track
and everything like that.
So you're going to park andprobably be about 20 to 30
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minutes away on a brisk walk foryou to get to the office itself
.
Yeah well, 600 employees havesigned a spreadsheet supporting
an initiative that they arerequesting the company.
These never work.
But okay, 600 employees aresigning a spreadsheet to support
an initiative that they want togo back to, not working on site
yep yep, so those are 600.
Mike Gorday (07:20):
This is a prime.
This is a prime open doorwayfor unionization.
Nathan Mumm (07:25):
Well, there we go.
So an AWS employee in Portland,oregon recently shared on
LinkedIn her experience duringher first week back at the
office full-time.
She mentioned sitting at threedifferent desks, lacking direct
coworkers in the same locationand needing to store belongings
in a locker overnight or to takethem home.
So they get these littlecubicle lockers.
Did you ever go to a rollerrink?
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Know you'd put your shoes inthis little locker and it had a
little lock and you'd kind oflike put in the little metal box
they have like metal boxes herethat the employees put stuff
into and lock them on site andthen so if you want a picture of
your family, you know you takeit there, and then you, oh yeah,
it's just.
Yeah, it's just, it's crazy.
All right, well, amazon saysthat they will continue to have
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the uh mandate in place, and ifyou're not able to make it, then
hey, good job amazon, you know,you go buddy there, you go um
jobs will be available.
Mike Gorday (08:19):
You're gonna reap
some.
You're gonna reap some rewardshere, there you go all right.
Nathan Mumm (08:23):
Well, it's
interesting because amazon's big
, big downtown seattle area whenwe're broadcasting the seattle
area, so a big individual.
They had plenty of office spacedowntown in our local area.
So it's really the bay area,new york area and some of these
areas that they reduced theirfootprint during the uh yeah
they didn't plan for people toactually come back or even know
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how many employees they had intheir local regions to go to
these things.
Mike Gorday (08:48):
Yeah, this is yeah.
Before, before you makemandates sending people back to
work, you need to provide aninfrastructure for them to work
in, because they're going tothey're.
I'm sure they're alreadysuffering some consequences of
this, but it's going to createmore problems down the road, all
right.
And it's going to create moreproblems down the road, all
right.
And it's not something you cancreate by saying, oh well, you
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have to.
Humans don't work that way.
Nathan Mumm (09:11):
Okay, all right,
here you go.
Story number two this is areally interesting story.
Mike Gorday (09:15):
Well, yeah, if
you're into dating online, Well,
you've done online dating,haven't you?
Mr Buddy yeah yeah, and I cantell you it's miserable.
Okay, so Bumble and Tinder areon the way out.
Okay Is kind of the headlinehere Okay.
So dating apps are encounteringa lot of challenges as
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alternative ways to meet peopleare gaining traction.
For couples like Jess and Natewho I don't know, they don't
know who they are they'rediscovering love through shared
hobbies, which is gaming isincreasingly on the rise, which
is kind of a funny statement,because that's usually how
people in the past would meetthrough shared experiences or
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shared hobbies.
Jess and Nate crossed paths atan esports event in 2023, but
fostered that relationship whileplaying World of Warcraft
together online.
You're World of Warcraft lovers, okay.
Nathan Mumm (10:10):
I've played it a
little bit.
I didn't really like the gamemyself, you know.
Mike Gorday (10:13):
I have never played
it online.
I have never been a WoW guy.
Nathan Mumm (10:17):
I played it, it was
okay.
It just was a lot.
I mean, you have to grind a lotand you have to really play in
the world to do that.
Mike Gorday (10:24):
This has nothing to
do with dating.
Well, keep on going.
Sorry, Sorry, Keep on going.
But these people, this couple,went off in game from morning to
night and now they're engaged.
Nate feels that his gamingexperience experience providing
him with deeper bonds thandating apps can offer.
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Okay, Uh, just nice journeyreflects a wider trend.
According to a 2024 OSCOMreport, usage of dating apps
like Tinder, Bumble and hingehas seen significant drops.
Uh, meaning young individualsare increasingly turning to
hobby focused platforms.
The user base for the fitnessapp Strava grew by 20% last year
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, while the film review siteLetterboxd experienced a
remarkable 50% surge.
What is driving the shift?
Experts such as CarolinaBandanelli from Warwick
University.
In case the Gen Z craves lesspressure.
Hobby-centric apps centeredaround activities like running
or gaming enable users toconnect organically without the
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stress of self-promotion.
This is so interesting that GenZ is rediscovering what we all
Gen.
Nathan Mumm (11:36):
X discovered.
Mike Gorday (11:37):
No, we all did.
Yeah, this is how we got dateswhen we were young.
And if you've been on a datingapp, which you haven't, I know
it's really a job interview, isit?
Yeah, okay, you look atpeople's pictures, so you're
automatically working fromObjectifying people immediately.
(11:59):
No you're just automaticallyworking from a very superficial
level, okay, then you haveeverything that they want and
all their preferences, and thenthey kind of match you together
and then when you actually talkto them, then it becomes like a.
It really is, it's like a jobinterview.
During the pandemic, of course,dating apps began to resemble
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social media more closely.
However, most cannot sustainthis evolution and we've seen a
lot of changes on dating appsover the past few years.
In response to that, apps arenow offering niche options, like
dating for fitness enthusiastsor vegans.
Some applications, like Breeze,completely remove pre-date
messaging, while others hidetheir photos until users have
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communicated adequately.
Nevertheless, there is a wordof caution.
Even hobby oriented apps canhave limitations.
Communities like strava andletterbox exists primarily for
shared interest, not dating, andusers may not appreciate
romantic advances in theseenvironments okay, but that's
old school too, right?
Nathan Mumm (13:03):
so I mean, if you
went down to this the rink we're
going back to the skating rink,right and there's a cute girl
over there in the side and youwanted to go date her, and you
say, hey, would you like to goon a date?
And she's like, oh, you're acreep.
She'd just tell you, no, I needto continue on, right.
Mike Gorday (13:15):
But that's one of
the that's one of the big
arguments about there is a lotmore fear and reluctance
involved in doing coldapproaches.
Nathan Mumm (13:29):
Really yeah, oh,
back in the old way.
You just keep on going down,and down and down, until the one
girl said, yeah, I'm interestedin holding your hand.
Mike Gorday (13:35):
Yeah, you were the
numbers guy.
Right, I was, that's right.
Nathan Mumm (13:39):
Number eight hit
and then I'm like, okay, great
Number eight is what I wanted.
Mike Gorday (13:42):
Mr Sales, over here
.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyway, what does the futurehold, who knows?
In-game and virtual spacescould enrich relationships
during initial meetings andmight not just encompass offline
interactions.
Instead, apps simulating thebest elements of face-to-face
interactions while utilizingdigital innovations could lead
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the way forward.
Nathan Mumm (14:04):
Yeah, so people are
getting married in these events
, right?
Mike Gorday (14:07):
This is like
Facebook relationships.
When Facebook really startedrolling out, we saw a lot of
this too.
Facebook became like this wayof meeting and connecting people
in groups.
There's a problem with this,however, and even in the gaming
existing space, the, there is aproblem, and that problem is
(14:27):
that we have two entities thatare communicating over a
specific uh style of ofcommunication.
You know this would be in-gamechatting and and whatnot.
Yeah, uh, so they're not havingany physical uh proximity with
each other to get to know howthey work in the environment or
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how they live in the environment.
So there's some problems withthat, okay all right, right.
Nathan Mumm (14:53):
Well, would you
rather meet on a dating app with
somebody?
I?
Mike Gorday (14:56):
really don't like
them.
I think they're pretty bad Allright.
Nathan Mumm (15:02):
So you'd rather
meet in a game and if you have
some common interests, go fromthere.
Mike Gorday (15:05):
Yeah, that's really
how you want to meet people
that have these shared interests, instead of looking at a bunch
of stuff that says, hey, I'minto hiking and whatnot and I'm
a fully independent person and Ijust need somebody to travel
with, and it's just crazy, allright.
Nathan Mumm (15:27):
Here's our next
story, story number three.
This includes Trump and GeorgeTakei from Star Trek.
How the heck can I get thoseall together?
Here we go.
Story number three google mapblocks gulf of america reviews
after renaming and receivingnegative feedback.
So if you go and you take alook at google maps and apple
maps right now, what do you havegoing on?
You can see now the gulf ofamerica, not the gulf of mexico.
(15:49):
So donald trump got that named.
Interesting because George Takaihas gone on record on Blue Sky,
which he urges his 1.1 millionBlue Sky followers.
We've talked about Blue Sky,the alternative to Facebook,
which is gaining more and moremomentum.
He's asked them to report thename location on Apple Maps as
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incorrect, so this causes a hugequeue up in Apple's support
calls and he is tellingeverybody right now.
He also then took a screenshotof that and posted it on X,
saying to do exactly the samething.
So we had somebody renamesomething.
George Takai from Star Trek isnot happy with it.
He used Blue Sky as his socialmedia platform to reach out and
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tell people what are youplugging Blue Sky or?
George Takai from Star Trek isnot happy with it.
He used blue sky as a socialmedia platform to reach out.
What are you?
Mike Gorday (16:35):
plugging blue sky
or George Takai Well.
Nathan Mumm (16:37):
I'm just kind of
interesting.
Well, the kind of you know what.
You can get a map change fordifferent stuff, and so there
you go.
There you go, story numberthree and story number four.
What do I have for story numberfour?
Oh, iphone SE releases this week.
Apple's Tim Cook teases aWednesday launch, so it's either
the Apple SE phone or it'sgoing to be a new tagging, gps.
(17:02):
It's unknown what Apple's goingto release.
They have both of these thingsin the pipeline, so I don't know
exactly what the announcement'sgoing to be, but they have a
big announcement coming on uptomorrow, on Wednesday, that Tim
Cook is going to essentiallymake an announcement on whether
it's a brand new SE phone, whichthey've been talking about for
a long time, or a new air tagthat would be available there.
(17:22):
It's interesting because Applehas been spending a lot of time
working on their own Appledesigned 5g modem.
So they've been working on this5g modem that they're been
touting.
They can work with satellites.
If you paid any attention tothe Super Bowl commercials,
there was a big T-Mobilecommercial that they have now
partnered with Starlink.
So anytime you're up in themiddle of no man's land you can
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get your phone, and this was oneof our predictions that
satellite phones are going tobecome kind of like this new
thing with Starlink.
So big announcement tomorrow,apple is either announcing a
brand new AirTag or thepotential of no more home button
, a larger screen on their lowerend model, iphone SE.
Mike Gorday (18:03):
Do you know why you
can't fart in an Apple store?
Marc Gregoire (18:06):
Why is?
Mike Gorday (18:06):
that they don't
have windows, all right.
Nathan Mumm (18:10):
Well, that ends our
top technology stories of the
week.
When we return, Nick Espinosafrom Security Fanatics will join
us to discuss DeepSeek.
We're going to talk about theAI that China says will take
over open AI at half the cost.
Should we be worried?
All of this, plus many otherinformation and questions from
Nick.
We'll see you after thecommercial break.
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Nathan Mumm (19:21):
All right, Welcome
back to Tech Time with Nathan
Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects Without a
political agenda.
We verify the facts and we doit with a sense of humor, in
less than 60 minutes and, ofcourse, with a little whiskey on
the side.
Today, Mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseur, is in the
office.
What do we have to taste today?
Marc Gregoire (19:41):
Today is Wild
Turkey 101, but the Jimmy
Russell's 70th anniversaryrelease.
So, from Wild Turkey's website,this collector-worthy release
is an eight-year-old, 101-proofbourbon with an additional blend
of eight to eight-year-old 101proof bourbon with an additional
blend of eight to nine year oldwhiskeys, hand selected from a
few of jimmy's favorite rickhouses.
The bourbon offers rich aromasof oak honey, cinnamon and
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tobacco and a palette marked bysweet cream, butterscotch and
black tea notes that transitionsto bitter chocolate, dark
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Now, this is from campari'sgroup, of course, from wild
turkeys distillery in ZishunSub-Bitter Chocolate, Dark
Cherry and Burnt Sugar.
Now, this is from Campari'sGroup, of course, from Wild
Turkey's Distillery inLawrenceburg, kentucky.
It's straight bourbon.
It's at least eight years old,101 proof 75% corn, 13% rye, 12%
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malted barley, and it goes forabout $50.
Oh, this is fantastic.
Nathan Mumm (20:30):
I love this.
I don't know about Mr Gorday.
What are you thinking on thisso far?
You know it's kind of nice.
I don't want to give away.
But wow, I haven't had.
You don't want to give it away.
Oh, this is really good.
I haven't had really goodwhiskey in a while.
Marc Gregoire (20:47):
The question is
what does Mark think about it?
We will see during the mumble.
Nathan Mumm (20:54):
After we do your
mumble, I have something special
for you and your whiskeyconnoisseurs.
Marc Gregoire (20:57):
Is it a
Valentine's Day gift?
A belated one.
Nathan Mumm (21:00):
It's kind of a
belated Valentine's Day gift for
all of those people there.
Marc Gregoire (21:05):
Don't forget to
like and subscribe.
In addition, please comment.
Let us know if there's awhiskey you want us to review.
If we have it, we'll put it onfor you and we'll tell you what
we think about it.
And drink responsibly.
Heaven can wait.
Nathan Mumm (21:17):
Perfect.
Thank you so much.
All right, with our firstwhiskey tasting completed, let's
move on to our feature segment.
Today, our technology expert,Nick Espinosa, is joining the
show.
He's an expert in cybersecurityand network infrastructure, has
(21:38):
consulted with clients rangingfrom small business to the
Fortune 100 level.
In 1998, at the age of 19, Nickfounded Windy City Networks,
which was later acquired in 2015.
He then created SecurityFanatics, where he is the chief
security fanatic.
We welcome Nick to the Comcastvideo stream.
Let's start our next segment.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Welcome to the
segment we call Ask the Experts
With our tech time radio expert,Nick Espinoza.
Nathan Mumm (21:58):
All right Hi.
Nick Espinosa (21:59):
Nick, how you
doing Good.
Good, you know I got to saysomething, mike.
Honestly I wouldn't knockonline dating man.
I mean my chatbot wife and sixAI kids take exception to this.
Mike Gorday (22:11):
Sorry, I didn't
mean to offend them, that's all
right's right, all right, okay.
Nathan Mumm (22:17):
Well, nick, tell us
a little bit about yourself for
new listeners that arelistening to our program.
Tell us a little bit yourbackground.
Uh, besides being on our showfor going on three plus years
now as a special guest, tell usa little bit about that yeah,
yeah.
Nick Espinosa (22:29):
so I'm the chief
security fanatic of security
fanatics.
We do all all thingscybersecurity, cyber warfare,
cyber terrorism, infrastructure,government compliance.
I've done a few Ted talks, allthat kind of stuff.
You know I have a regularpodcast and write for Forbes on
occasion and some other outlets,so I love hanging out online.
So come say hi, I'm happy to behere.
Nathan Mumm (22:49):
Perfect, all right.
So, nick, we got to talk aboutDeepSeek, right?
So the AI that can replace allAI companies for fractions of
the price, time and labor.
It's going to make us all usethis AI.
Now I tried to sign up forDeepSeek and it was crashing, so
it didn't allow me to sign up.
And then I tried to sign up forit again and it crashed and
didn't allow me to sign up.
(23:10):
So tell us a little bit.
What is DeepSeek From yourpoint of view as an expert?
Are we concerned about thisChinese AI alternative?
Nick Espinosa (23:22):
What Chinese
products are possibly bad and
harmful and malicious People.
Comrades, the DeepSeek AI ishere for all of us.
Now.
This is absolutely insane.
I did, I've done actual testing.
You can literally go watchvideos I've done on this, and
probably one of my most viralsocial media posts was actually
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testing to see if it was sendingback to China.
But yeah, to your point.
Essentially this is the bombthat that knocked a trillion
dollars off the economy globallyin a single day, because they
basically put out a chat gp.
Uh, chat chat gpt.
Competitors said they did itfor a mere fraction of the cost
and then gave it away to theworld.
Anybody can go download thisthing on github and run it on
(24:02):
much less firepower than a chatgpt need, so it absolutely
changes the game.
Now, is it as good as chat gptT?
Well, I tested it against 01,chatgpt 01, and yeah, it's
pretty solid.
It's actually a lot faster tocalculate and respond and
whatnot.
I also tested it from thewebsite, but I found a couple of
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different things that I thoughtwas absolutely fascinating.
First things first.
It absolutely is bias andcensorship.
I mean, does the Chinesegovernment like to talk about
Tiananmen Square?
Neither does their AI, and Ithink those are things basically
to talk about, but I think partof it too is that it may have
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the ability to insert somepro-China disinformation into
the world.
So one of the questions that Iactually asked it when I was
experimenting with it and thencomparing the exact same
question to the response ofChatGPT, was which 10 countries
are the worst or, I'm sorry,which 10 countries are the best
countries in the world?
You know, and it gave me verysimilar lists, et cetera, et
cetera.
Norway and Canada and most ofScandinavia was on the list, you
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know.
But it also had someinteresting ones, because when I
really started going after itand asking about the top 10
greatest leaders in the world,it actually introduced Mao into
the equation.
Now, Mao, by all means, has awhole lot of human rights
violations to his name, but herewe are and these AIs sound
really authoritative and so, byvirtue of that, people would say
(25:28):
that and say, oh, mao's one ofthe top 10 leaders number nine
for the record on Deep Seek,when all historians would
totally disagree with that one.
On top of it.
I asked it what 10 countrieswere the worst for human rights.
It actually spit out an answer,immediately deleted it and then
told me sorry that's beyond mycurrent scope, but I read what
it wrote and it started to saythe top three, which were North
(25:49):
Korea, syria and China.
So it understands it.
Like I said, I did an entireslideshow on YouTube on this one
.
It was wild.
I also caught it in our lab atwork, basically sending data
back to China on a completelyclean computer.
The only place the computer hadever gone to was the DeepSeek
official website and I tookscreenshots and all that.
(26:11):
You can find that on socialmedia.
It's absolutely nuts.
Nathan Mumm (26:16):
All right,
absolutely nuts.
So are you worried about ittaking over for OpenAI or any of
these other Americancompetitors out there?
Nick Espinosa (26:26):
Yes, here's my
biggest fear with DeepSeek Is
that, because it's free to theworld, research institutions,
companies, all this kind ofstuff are going to say, wow, we
get a chat GPT model,essentially for free, that we
can download, manipulate and use, and nobody's going to go
through the code, you know, tobasically get rid of the data
mining or surveillance aspectsor really understand the
potential biases that it canslowly creep in, you know, over
(26:49):
time.
And so, by virtue of that, whatyou're doing is you're
essentially training generationsto basically learn from
artificial intelligence, justlike a chat GPT, but the
information delivery may be veryskewed towards a pro-China
position, when the facts of theworld may not say that.
On top of it, again, if this isbeing adopted by corporations
(27:09):
essentially to tweak it fortheir own needs, could this
potentially data mine as well?
What we need is code-basedreviews on this.
And, for the record, they saythey got this going for $6
million.
Nobody believes that.
It definitely costs them morethan that, but it's still a
fraction of what ChatGPT is.
So this is literally, I think,just a virtual bomb drop in the
(27:31):
AI community.
Mike Gorday (27:32):
See and this is why
I love AI buddy.
Nathan Mumm (27:35):
This is why you
love AI All right, okay, well,
speaking about AI, they justlost a major copyright
intellectual property lawsuitwhich sussed presidents for
other lawsuits.
Can you explain a little bitabout this ruling here?
Nick Espinosa (27:46):
Yeah, I'm
actually a big fan on this one
and this is something that Ithink is a long time coming, and
Thomson Reuters just basicallyhas a shot in the arm to the
creators of intellectualproperty against AI, because
Thomson Reuters just won thefirst major copyright case
against artificial intelligencein the United States.
So back in 2020, thomsonReuters filed a lawsuit against
(28:09):
an AI startup called RossIntelligence.
They focused on legal AI, inother words, if you're a lawyer,
you can go use them and so inthis complaint, thomson Reuters
basically said that RossIntelligence reproduced material
from Westlaw.
Thomson Reuters owns Westlaw,which is essentially like a
terminal and access for lawyersto get essentially access to all
(28:30):
the legal precedent and rulings, et cetera, et cetera, across
the United States.
And so a couple of days ago, ajudge actually ruled in Thompson
Reuters' favor, basicallysaying that, yeah, they totally
ripped you off and they weretrying to spin up a competitor
to Westlaw using Westlaw'sintellectual property, and so it
opens up two major things.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Nathan Mumm (28:50):
No, we were just
laughing, I was laughing things.
Mike Gorday (28:55):
I'm sorry, go ahead
.
No, we're just laughing.
I was.
I was laughing, it's all.
It's funny to me that, uh, thiswhole thing started with one
law firm using the law to getunlawful information from
another competitor well, youknow, hey, lawyer ball is lawyer
ball, right and lawyers willtell you to get it in writing
and then the other lawyer willtell you it's not worth the
paper it's written on.
Nick Espinosa (29:14):
So you know you
can do the math on that one.
Nathan Mumm (29:15):
That's why they
charge you $399 an hour for that
.
There you go.
Nick Espinosa (29:19):
Legal fees ain't
cheap, that's right.
Not at all, but you need a goodlawyer in your life at some
point, hopefully not criminal.
So with that major cans ofworms here across, basically,
the legality of artificialintelligence.
First, it's obviously a clearwin for creators like George RR
Martin of Game of Thrones fame,like he's in the process of
suing OpenAI, as is SarahSilverman, the comedian who
(29:42):
wrote a book, et cetera, etcetera.
It's also, though, a blow toplatforms that use the concept
of fair use.
Now, artificial intelligencecompanies will basically defend,
saying that there's afour-pronged system of fair use,
and courts use this todetermine whether, essentially,
an AI is ripping off or anyother intellectual property.
(30:03):
So they look for the reasonbehind the work, like why is the
work being created?
They look for the nature of thework.
Is it, you know, like letters,poetry, nonfiction, any other
kind of creation, artwork, etcetera, et cetera.
The amount of copyright workused.
In other words, are you makinga derivative of the original?
There's a very famous AndyWarhol case about that, with
(30:23):
Prince, I believe was thesubject of the picture and then,
finally, how basically it wouldimpact the market value of the
original.
So if you're stealing Westlawstuff, repackaging it as Ross
Intelligence, then, yeah, you'redefinitely going directly after
, essentially, westlaw andThomson Reuters.
So they won and here we are, soit's a good thing.
Nathan Mumm (30:43):
All right, there we
go.
So let's talk about somestate-sponsored hacking groups
now working with cyber criminalgangs and at the same time, I
want you to kind of talk aboutour nation's cybersecurity
protection at the moment.
So I talked about this on lastweek's show, where we have some
of our smartest minds that havedecided to take a nine-month
(31:05):
journey of retirement in payment, so kind of in the same type of
deal.
How is our nation'scybersecurity protection at the
moment?
And talk to us a little bitabout these state-sponsored
hacking groups.
Nick Espinosa (31:17):
Sure.
So, as it stands right now,when I'm thinking about,
essentially since theinauguration, what has happened,
it's all aboard the hot messexpress, because basically
within the first 48 hours, wesaw top advisory roles, meaning
those veterans in cybersecurity,at CISA, secret Service and
just Department of HomelandSecurity in general, essentially
(31:38):
lose their jobs.
Now I've been throughtransitions of presidential
transfers of power from onepresident to another, and
there's usually a handoff theincoming team basically gets up
to speed with the outgoing teamon what they're tracking
philosophy, intelligence, etcetera, et cetera.
Now, the incoming team may havea different standard or
different process, but the pointis there is a handoff, there's
(32:00):
mutual respect and we're talkingabout nonpartisan people that
serve the government, right?
And so the way, the only way Ican think about it is, if we're
on a battlefield, I mean,imagine the general coming and
saying let's pull all the topcommanders and let the privates
figure it out.
They'll win the battle for us,right?
And so, by virtue of that,there have been reports that
have showed that we lost trackof Salt Typhoon.
(32:20):
This is the Chinese hackinggroup that essentially was, you
know, wiggling their way throughour major telecom providers,
like the T-Mobiles and Verizonsof the world, and so, by virtue
of that, it's going to be veryhard to play catch up to that
and, quite frankly, that's notpolitical, that's just what
happened.
So I don't know if it's thiswhole Doge thing where they're
just trying to take aflamethrower, to mention the
(32:42):
furlough issue of taking a, takethe severance, and you know you
got nine months off, so so, sothese are.
These are very serious issues,and that also dovetails with
these new tactics that we'rereally starting to see, which is
state sponsored hackers areessentially collaborating with
(33:04):
cyber criminal gangs, as youmentioned, and it makes them
much harder to track, andthere's this growing
collaboration.
So you've got, essentially,espionage on behalf of nation
states.
On one hand, you've got theransomware gangs that want
financial gain, on the otherhand, in other words, they're
just ripping you off for money,and so, for the record, there's
always been some kind of overlapthere, but it's really coming
to a point and we're reallystarting to see that.
(33:27):
So Mandiant, the securityoutfit owned by Google, started
recently tracking this, and nowwe're starting to see other
research outfits, from Palo AltoNetworks, semantic and some
others starting to see similartools being used, and so,
basically, what we're seeing isagencies like Russian and China
Intel.
They're using ransomware tomake themselves look like a gang
(33:47):
going after money, when they'reactually after espionage.
And on top of it, you also havethe ransomware gangs that are
now leveraging these specialhacking utilities that have only
previously been identified asbeing used by intelligence
agencies, and so thecollaboration is there.
The ransomware gangs can do thedirty work as a cutout or
possibly augment the workforce.
It's a huge mess either way,and it's a very difficult thing
(34:10):
for us to address.
Nathan Mumm (34:13):
Yeah, so it has me
concerned a little bit too.
We talked about it, and what'sreally concerning for me is some
of the security individuals Iknow specifically that work for
the FBI, cia, different agenciesthe next day because they have
the skills to be successful.
And the people that are stillworking for our government are
(34:44):
the ones that aren't able tonecessarily get the job, and
they're the ones now we'retrusting for our government
security processes to be inplace, and I just hope that we
don't continue to go down thatrabbit hole and then have just
this huge opening Right.
Nick Espinosa (35:01):
Well, I mean, if
you think about it this way,
when the cybersecurityinfrastructure, security agency
is replaced by the cyber ninjas,we're going to have a bit of an
issue on our hands.
And that's not to mention thefact of the collaboration we
have through Five Eyes, thecollaboration we have with the
Cyber Army, as essentially, youknow, russian intelligence is
very active, obviously in thewar zone, you know, on the
(35:24):
technology side.
So it's just a problem allaround right now.
Nathan Mumm (35:28):
All right.
Last thing here in a couple ofminutes Can you explain what
happened with Apple that wasordered to secretly break its
own encryption and tell theworld?
They did this.
We talked about this I thinkthis was about two weeks ago,
was it that it came on out here,but we kind of talked about it
briefly.
Give us kind of a recap of whathappened, why they announced it
and why did they decide toactually do this?
Nick Espinosa (35:48):
Yeah, yeah, this
is insane.
I absolutely hate this news,but they essentially to your
point.
They've reportedly been orderedby the UK United Kingdom
government.
To your point they'vereportedly been ordered by the
UK United Kingdom government toessentially create a backdoor
that would give securityofficials access to encrypted
iCloud backups.
Now, this has been the cry ofgovernments all around the world
(36:09):
that law enforcement needs tobreak encryption or have
backdoors into encryption inorder to catch the criminals.
Essentially, what we're doingis creating laws to the lowest
common denominator in society,and, by virtue of that, most of
us get caught up in it, like 99%of us.
Right, we're not murderers,we're not criminals, we're
definitely not terrorists, etcetera, et cetera, but now they
have access to our stuff in thatsame way.
So here's the thing, though Ifthis was implemented in the UK,
(36:34):
british security serviceswouldn't just have backups to
citizens of the UK under theirpurview, they'd be cracking it
for all of iCloud, meaning, whywouldn't they go into an
American or a Canadian orAustralian account?
That's the problem that we'vegot, and so, by virtue of that,
they were ordered to do this,essentially under the
Investigatory Powers Act of 2016.
(36:56):
And essentially in England forthe record, it's called the
Snoopers Charter.
That gives them this right, butthey've ordered Apple to do
this.
Now Apple can appeal, but thatdoesn't stop the deadlines.
In other words, apple still hasto do this while they're under
appeal and they've also beenordered again under this
Snoopers Charter, if you will,to not tell anybody, so as of
(37:16):
right now they charter.
If you will, to not tellanybody, so as of right now.
They could have cracked iCloud,given it to basically the Brits
, and we have no idea becausethey're legally not allowed to
tell us.
So, essentially, what we knowthey're going to do is they're
going to stop using the advanceddata protection.
Apple is in the UK, but thatdoesn't actually satisfy the
order that the UK governmentgave them.
It's absolutely insane.
Nathan Mumm (37:35):
it is all right,
well, nick, thank you so much
for being a part of our show.
How you feeling, mike?
Mike Gorday (37:42):
nick.
Nick is always a good reality.
Slap to the face this is why wedrink yes I'm reaching for mine
right now all right.
Nathan Mumm (37:52):
can you tell people
how they can get in touch with
you again after the show if theywant to listen to your X posts
or other stuff?
Nick Espinosa (37:59):
Absolutely, you
can like share.
Follow me on Facebook.
I'm still on Twitter slash X,but I'm also on Blue Sky Macedon
and YouTube slash Nick Espinosa.
So come hang out, come say hi.
Nathan Mumm (38:09):
All right.
Well, we thank you so much forbeing a part of our show.
Bye.
Nick Espinosa (38:13):
Nick.
Thanks, nick, see ya.
Nathan Mumm (38:14):
All right, that
ends our Ask the Expert with
Nick Espinosa.
Now we have Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
All right, mike, here's myquestion what makes in-game
dating something that wouldbecome more popular than dating
(38:37):
apps?
Mike Gorday (38:40):
Well, okay, so it's
not proximity, but it's length
of time that you'recommunicating with somebody, all
right.
So one of the interestingthings about this is this is not
a new thing.
I don't know that this isnecessarily something that's on
the rise, because human beingsdo this naturally anywhere they
(39:02):
go.
I I love this idea that wethink that, uh, matchmaking is
not something that we do incertain areas, but we do this
everywhere.
Every time you meet a newperson you're, one of the key
indicators that your brain isgoing to look for is if it's a
mating potential.
Okay.
So when you're doing these games, you are talking to them and
(39:26):
sharing information and sharing,sharing life pieces and
experiences.
So you're naturally going tocreate a bond with this, and
this doesn't just happen withromantic interest.
This happens with onlinefriends.
So this is a format, and thenwe have the length of time that
(39:46):
people spend together on thesethings, like the example we used
in the article was that thesetwo people were online from
morning to night, and so in thatlength of time, they're going
to share a lot of informationthat you're just not going to
get on a dating app.
(40:06):
You just can't get it until youstart, but when you go dating.
That's your natural inclinationis to look for those shared
interests.
Nathan Mumm (40:19):
Okay, okay, all
right.
Well, that was Mike'smesmerizing moment.
Marc Gregoire (40:23):
I don't know if
it was that mesmerizing, no it
is.
Nathan Mumm (40:25):
You actually have
kind of a good experience on
this, all right.
Well, we're going to take acommercial break when we return.
We have this Week in Technology, so now would be a great time
to try a little whiskey on theside.
See you in a bit.
Hey, mike.
Mike Gorday (40:38):
Yeah, what's up,
hey.
Nathan Mumm (40:39):
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need people to start liking our
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I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon.
If you really like us, you canlike us in Patreoncom.
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You know, you butcher theEnglish language all the time.
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If you really like our show,you can subscribe to Patreoncom
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You know the one thatZuckerberg owns, the one that we
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Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
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Speaker 1 (41:45):
And now let's look
back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (41:51):
All right, we're
going back to February 19th 1971
.
The first warrant to search forcomputer data was issued.
Now the first warrant wasissued in california to search
for computer storage.
The warrant allowed for thesearch of key punch computer
cards to punch with aproprietary remote plotting
program, computer printoutsheets of proprietary remote
(42:13):
plotting programs, computermemory and other data storage
devices magnetically imprintedwith proprietary computer
programs.
The event would lead to anincreasingly sophisticated
methods of encryption to hidecomputer files from law
enforcement agents.
Now law enforcement sees tapesand a directory of files held by
(42:35):
a magnetic drum mass storagesystem built by Spiri ran
corporation for a Univac calledfast Tran.
There you go.
That was this week intechnology.
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We're going to take acommercial break.
When we return we have Mark'smumble whiskey review.
See you after this.
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Speaker 1 (43:46):
The segment we've
been waiting all week for.
Mike Gorday (43:47):
Mark's Whiskey
Mumble.
That title says it all, mark,there you go.
We're always more concernedabout the whiskey than all the
other crap that's going on inthe world.
Marc Gregoire (43:56):
All right, what
do we got?
I've been looking so forward totoday, february 18th what?
Nathan Mumm (44:02):
what is this?
Is somebody calling somebody?
What was that?
Uh-oh, all right, there we go.
Was that, mr gorday?
Are you getting a personal uhphone call?
Mike Gorday (44:09):
here.
Yeah, hold on, I've I've gottenall my chinese people to to
talk to me about what they'regetting for us.
Nathan Mumm (44:15):
All right, okay
here.
Okay, here we go.
Sorry about that.
All right, mark, continue on.
Marc Gregoire (44:18):
Well, today's an
exciting day.
Nathan Mumm (44:19):
All right.
Marc Gregoire (44:20):
What is today?
Today is cow milk while flyingin an airplane day.
Cow milk while flying in anairplane day.
I knew that would wake up Mikefrom his phone.
Nathan Mumm (44:31):
There you go.
How would you what is who cameup with this day?
Explain this to us so?
Marc Gregoire (44:36):
this day
commemorates, from 1930, a cow
named Nellie J, also known asElm Farm Ollie, who became the
first cow to be flown and milkedin an airplane.
The event was part of ascientific effort to study the
effects of height on cows'ability to produce milk.
In the 72-mile flight overBismarck, missouri, ollie's milk
(44:59):
was then put in paper cartonsand parachuted down to the
spectators to generate publicity, oh wow.
Nathan Mumm (45:05):
See, it's not just
Elon who sends things into space
, so you have other people do it, okay, so that became, and
today is the official day forthat.
Other people have celebrated itsince then.
Or was this a one-time deal?
Mike Gorday (45:20):
Yeah, this is
totally my biggest calendar day
of the year right, is it?
Yeah.
Marc Gregoire (45:25):
Totally Now.
While Nellie J is celebrating95 years celebration today,
today we're also celebrating 70years of master distiller Jimmy
Russell's 70th anniversary withWild Turkey, making him the
longest tenured spirits masterdistiller in the world.
Wild Turkey is not only luckyto have one Russell, they have
(45:46):
three.
Okay, grandfather Jimmy, who wejust talked about, father Eddie
, who is also the masterdistiller there, and their son,
Bruce, who is an assistantdistiller there.
Now this whiskey, let's okay.
Now this whiskey, let's talkabout this whiskey.
All right for me drum roll yes,this whiskey is a treat okay,
(46:07):
similar to their regular wildturkey 101.
However, it dials down the ricespice and increases sweetness
and sugar.
This is a delicious treat okayfor for $50, you cannot go wrong
.
I just got this bottle and, asyou can see, it's nearly empty.
I loved it so much I went outand picked up two more bottles.
Did you really?
I did.
Nathan Mumm (46:27):
Did you have to buy
it someplace special, or was it
just available online?
Marc Gregoire (46:31):
I did not buy it
online.
Total Wines was carrying it Wowokay.
Mike Gorday (46:36):
You didn't use your
little underground whiskey
market.
Marc Gregoire (46:40):
I did not no, no,
total Wines had some shipments
and I found out when they camein and went and got myself a few
more bottles.
Okay, I wish this was astandard for Wild Turkey and not
just a special release, becauseit definitely makes you go, mmm
.
Nathan Mumm (46:55):
That's right, okay,
well, you know what?
What a great pairing whiskeyand technology.
Just like scotty pippen andmichael jordan can't have one
without seriously.
Yeah, those are the best twobasketball players.
Marc Gregoire (47:08):
That's a great
analogy, you know.
But hasn't pippen come out andsaid he would have been just as
great or greater without michael?
Nathan Mumm (47:13):
yeah, but then he
went and played for portland and
he wasn't really good, so Idon't know what that?
Speaker 3 (47:16):
goes like there All
right?
Nathan Mumm (47:18):
Well, you know what
?
You can't wait because when wedo our pick of the day, I got
something special for your groupstaff coming on up, so let's
move now to our technology.
Fail, we are out of time.
Congratulations, you're afailure.
Speaker 8 (47:31):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I, did I yes,did I yes, did I.
Nathan Mumm (47:39):
Yes, all right.
Well, this week we're going tobe talking about a company
called Steam.
The online game softwaredistributor allowed a game on a
system that provided users withmalware.
Now, I'm a big fan of pirategames, and most pirate games
have themes of plunder, swordplay and sneaky tactics.
So now we have Pirate Fi, afree-to-play video game that
steals your credentials andmoney without you knowing it in
(48:01):
real life.
The free-to-play game namedPirateFi was available on Steam
from February 6th to 12th, wasdownloaded by over 1,500 users,
and the game contained the VIDARinfo-stealing malware, leading
Steam to advise users toreinstall Windows and run a full
system scan with updatedantivirus software.
See, the problem with thismalware is it actually went on
(48:22):
in and stole any key logginginformation and screen captures
of your uh pc, so anytime youlog into your bank or anything
like that, it would have yourcredentials, information and
different items.
Now users should also checkwith unfamiliar software and
consider an OS reformat as anecessary step.
Marc Gregoire (48:40):
Holy crap, that's
significant.
Now, do you think that the gamedevelopers knew about this?
Oh, absolutely.
Nathan Mumm (48:47):
Piratefi, developed
by Seaworth Interactive,
received positive reviews beforethe malware was discovered.
The game was described as asurvival game to set with a low
poly world.
Despite its initial reception,the malware hidden in pirateexe
comprised users with credentialand data breaching tools.
The malware of IDAR targetedusers' interest in Web3,
(49:09):
blockchain, cryptocurrency andother themes.
Steam removed the game andnotified users.
Impacted users posted warningson the Steam community page.
The developer account wasflagged, the game files were
modified several times to avoiddetection and the original files
that were released did not havethis malware, so it only had it
.
As they had an update comingand another update coming, they
(49:30):
put this malware in there.
The threat actor altered gamefiles, changed command and
control servers for credentialexploitation.
Based on statistics, up to1,500 people were affected, with
some having cryptocurrencywithdrawals and bank accounts
compromised at over $1.3 millionlost.
Wow.
Marc Gregoire (49:49):
How do you like
that?
So is the theme Don't PlayPirate Games.
Nathan Mumm (49:53):
Well, you better.
Yeah, it's really interesting.
So is that Steam's faultbecause they produced it.
So this is going to be a prettybig deal.
You got to be careful about anypublishers that you load that
don't come from probably 1A, 2aor 3A title publishers, and this
is PirateFi.
Do not load it on your machineunless you want to share money
with these pirates.
Marc Gregoire (50:11):
All right, we're
going to head out for our last
commercial break.
I'm still with Mike, mike'sfavorite line.
I mean, what's my favorite line?
Nathan Mumm (50:21):
Nothing in life is
free.
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Well, nothing in
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I think it's pretty funny thatthey Pirated your information
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It is kind of funny
, isn't it?
Alright, we're going to headout For our last commercial
break.
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the utmost.
See you after this.
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more this is your nugget of theweek yes, nathan's nugget, we
are excited to hear it.
Marc Gregoire (51:10):
All right here we
go.
Nathan Mumm (51:11):
Oh there, I was
running to the whiskey uh table
to get what we have here.
So let's talk about our NathanNugget.
Let's say you're the governmentand you're the IRS and you just
decided to remove a whole bunchof people's jobs, but you still
want to make sure that you cancollect your taxes and evade
anything.
That goes on.
Well, what is the IRS doing?
(51:32):
The IRS is planning to acquirethe NVIDIA SuperPod AI
supercomputer to boost itsmachine learning capabilities
for fraud detection and analyzetax payers behavior.
Leon musk's department ofgovernment efficiency is
establishing a presence in theirs as part of a larger
initiative to modernize thefederal bureaucracy with a brand
new machine, and it's calledthe sophisticated nvidia
(51:55):
superpod ai computer cluster.
Who, who's selling it to them?
Well, nvidia is going to be.
Speaker 8 (52:00):
Well, maybe Tesla
threw it.
Nathan Mumm (52:02):
Okay, according to
a February 5th acquisition
document.
The configuration integrates 31individual NVIDIA servers, with
each server hosting eight ofthe company's leading Blackwell
processors intended for trainingand operating AI models that
power applications like chat,gpt.
The hardware is estimatedaround $7 million that they
(52:23):
decided to put on in to replaceindividuals that were previously
combing through tax informationas an individual.
Now, we believe the technologyhere will help identify fraud,
theft behavior and make surethat you continue to pay your
taxes.
There you go, yep.
Isn't that great Yep?
Alright, now we need to move onto our.
Marc Gregoire (52:44):
So what's the
nugget in there?
Nathan Mumm (52:45):
What's the nugget,
the nugget is that it hasn't
been really released.
Nobody's talking about this.
So the nugget is nobody'stalking about it.
It's kind of been shuffledunderneath.
You had to go into someback-end documents to see the
February 5th.
February 5th's a while ago, sono one's talking about this.
I hope that we can get it outthere talking about it and
people may say, hey, let's keepour regular people instead of
(53:06):
other people being replaced witha computer AI.
All right, now let's move on toour pick of the day.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
And now our pick of
the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop all right.
Marc Gregoire (53:23):
What do we have
mark?
Well, turkey 101.
This is jimmy russell's 70thanniversary release, so it's a
special release.
Nathan Mumm (53:30):
This year, jimmy
russell picked those barrels
themselves and you got three ofthese at home then, or do you
have two at home and this is thethird?
This is my third.
Marc Gregoire (53:37):
This is the third
.
I got two at home so I got.
I got one that's in my box.
That will when.
I have a craving that I'll grab.
And then I got one under thecloset or in the closet, deep
hidden for in the future In thefuture.
Nathan Mumm (53:49):
All right, what are
you going to give this?
Are you giving this a thumbs up, mike?
Yeah, I'll give it a thumbs up.
Mike Gorday (53:56):
It's not on my
really big standout thing, but
it is very pleasant and tasteful.
Marc Gregoire (54:02):
It must have been
.
I got an empty glass herealready.
Mike Gorday (54:05):
That's more due to
the news than the actual flavor.
Nathan Mumm (54:07):
Is that Nick being
on the show?
Mike Gorday (54:08):
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (54:12):
Nick always makes
us happy Now love Nick Mark.
Yes, your whiskey tasters.
This was a whiskey bottle thatis no longer being printed from
a local distributor.
It won our first year's pick ofthe year.
This is law dog.
It's a mo whiskey distilledspirits 90 proof.
This is one of the remainingtwo or three bottles that exist
(54:36):
of this company because they nolonger do a whiskey.
I'm going to give this to youguys.
You guys can crack the corkthere you go and tell us what
you guys think about that.
Make sure, chris gets that.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Everybody else in
your little group.
Nathan Mumm (54:50):
We'll do that at
our next whiskey tasting and
then you can tell if it's athumbs up or thumbs down.
All right, all right.
You know it's been a great showtoday.
You know nothing like learningabout AI taking over the.
Mike Gorday (55:00):
IRS Skynet is
waking up folks.
Nathan Mumm (55:03):
It is.
It's going to all be availablethere because we don't want to
pay other people.
You know what it's been a greattime being on the show today.
I always love meeting witheverybody here on the roundtable
and all of our fans Remember,and all of our fans Remember the
science of tomorrow starts withthe technology of today.
See you guys next week Allright later.
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