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Prepare for a whirlwind journey through the latest in technology on this week’s episode, where we uncover surprising secrets, confront pressing issues, and have a little fun along the way. Join us as we dive into the remarkable discovery of a secret military base hidden beneath the North Pole, revealed by NASA’s high-tech radar. As we discuss the history of military operations and the implications of such findings, we invite listeners to reflect on how much remains unknown about our past.

Further complicating our digital lives, we address Meta's recent apology following a significant glitch that exposed violent content to thousands of Instagram users. This incident prompts critical questions regarding the role of corporations in ensuring the safety and integrity of online spaces and the challenges they must navigate to maintain user trust.

The episode takes a sharp turn as we confront the looming end of Skype, with Microsoft announcing its closure. As communications shift to Teams, our hosts guide listeners through the best alternatives available, ensuring they are well-equipped to embrace the changes. From Google Meet to Zoom and beyond, we explore accessible options for every user.

Highlighting the lighter side of technology, we discuss whiskey selection during our tasting segment, with Knob Creek taking center stage. With a robust profile to savor, our insights mingle with tech conversation, creating a warm atmosphere that resonates with our audience. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Welcome to the show today.

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today.
Welcome everyone.
Let's start today's show.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Now on today's show.
Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm (01:46):
All right, welcome to Tech Time Radio.
Today, we got a show packedwith exciting and intriguing
stories.
First up, we dive into somejaw-dropping tech news and
developments.
Brace yourself, as we haveuncovered a secret military base
at the North Pole.
Yes, you heard that right.
Plus meta issues an apologyafter a technical glitch, floods
instagram reels with violentgraphic videos and thousands of

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users are stunned.
Now microsoft has dropped thebombshell, announcing the
closure of skype in may, andthey have a shocking revelation
that their co-pilot, ai, hasexposed sensitive content.
We're going to talk about whathappened there.
Last but not least, meetFlashes.
That's right.
A hot new Instagram rival builtatop Blue Sky, has now been

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released widely and is ready totake the social media world by
storm.
In addition, of course, we haveour standard features,
including our technology fail ofthe week, a possible Nathan
Nugget, which we have to get tobecause it's a very intriguing
story.

Marc Gregoire (02:44):
I love the Nathan Nugget which we have to get to
because it's a very intriguingstory and, of course, I love the
Nathan.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
This is going to be really good.

Nathan Mumm (02:46):
You're going to like this one and pick the day
whiskey tasting to see if ourselected whiskey pick it's zero,
one or two thumbs up at the endof the show.
All right, that's my favoritepart.
That is your favorite part, allright.
Well, now it's time for thelatest, latest headlines in the.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm (03:05):
All right, flashes, an Instagram rival built on top
of Blue Sky, released widelythis week.
Let's go to Corinne Westlandfor more on the story.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Looking for an alternative to Instagram, we
might have a suitable candidatein Flashes, a recently launched
app built on BlueSky that seemsto get all the important basics
right.
If you remember an Instagrambefore, meta turned it into its
Facebook replacement, that iswhat Flashes is.
It's an app for sharing photosand videos.
Flashes includes some filtersto apply to your photos, along

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with some custom feeds that youcan use if you want, but
otherwise, customizations areminimal.
It's really an image and videofocused version of Blue Sky.
Blue Sky now has 30 millionusers as of January 2025.
Back to you guys in the studio.
Oh, I love this.

Marc Gregoire (03:58):
You predicted this Ah we did Blue Sky.

Nathan Mumm (04:01):
Okay, so this is called Flashes Now.
This app was introduced inJanuary, but they had a couple
glitches that they had to workon and fix out.
This is the Instagram beforeFacebook took over, so Instagram
was very popular.
You could share up to fourphotos at the time, and guess
what?
On this app, you can share fourpictures, or you can post a

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video up to a minute in length.
All of the original Instagraminformation and processes is set
up.
Now what's the best part aboutthis, though, unlike Instagram,
is it doesn't use thealgorithmic roles that Meta has
previously defined.
You actually go on in and youget to follow the pages of your
choice, and you only getinformation from those pages.

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So you can still do that withInstagram, but Instagram you'll
see a couple of pages you like,and then, all of a sudden, you
get an ad, and then you gothrough a couple more things and
you get another ad.
Odie, are you excited aboutthis?
I see you biting at the bithere.
What's up?

Ody (04:56):
So what I'm hearing is I finally have a reason to drop
Instagram.

Nathan Mumm (05:00):
Yes.

Ody (05:00):
I hate Instagram.

Nathan Mumm (05:02):
You know what this is going to be a reason to look
to have.
Do you have your Blue Skyaccount set up?

Ody (05:07):
No, I keep.
I'll do it right now.
Okay, oh, you haven't set it upyet.
No.

Nathan Mumm (05:12):
Don't be so much on the show.
Keep on the board, but this isthe Instagram for Blue Sky.
It also means that none of thedata from this information being
pulled is going to be resold.
Uh, the user that created well,no, no, the user that created
it did it on open source andsaid that he just wanted to
create an experience likeinstagram was originally for

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people that was my question foryou.

Marc Gregoire (05:34):
So is it somebody that used to work for instagram
and took code over and theremay be possible lawsuits, or is
this somebody that just modeledit after the overall premise?

Nathan Mumm (05:42):
I'm pretty sure that, because it has been
already out in the app store fora little bit and they had to
work on some stuff to fix it.
I believe that this is anindependent.
It went back to what wasInstagram like and they probably
had an experience of Instagrambefore Facebook took over and
changed it, and so they wantedto just create the same original
feeling of what instagram usedto be.

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Now blue sky has 30 milliondollar you are 30 million user
database that's out there, sothis will get picked up and and
used quite frequently.
I know tech time radio is justcreated an account for flashes
so that we will actually beusing stuff that we would have
originally post on instagram.

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We will now put it on flasheson our Blue Sky account.

Marc Gregoire (06:27):
I don't expect you to know numbers off the top
of your head but, like Twitter,how many on Instagram?
Do you know how many users?

Nathan Mumm (06:32):
generally, I don't because those numbers change all
the time.
They do, I just was trying tosee ratios.
So, Blue Sky is one-third ofthe well okay, so they said that
they're one third of the socialmedia landscape at this time,
so I would see that as prettysignificant.
With 30 million users, it's alot of people.
A lot of artists are going tothat, so it's a pretty big

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uptick on what people have.

Marc Gregoire (06:55):
So the new true social is the big one right now.
What's that?
The new true social is the bigone, is it?

Nathan Mumm (07:02):
That's.
Twitter Well is that Twitter IsTwitter, or is it?
Well, that's twitter?
Well, is that twitter istwitter.

Marc Gregoire (07:08):
That or is it the truth?
Isn't truth social?
Also its own network?
Well, that's the old one.
Okay, I don't know who's onthat anymore because all they,
they all flipped over to twitteronce.
He long must turned everybodyback on, turn it back, everybody
back well, there's also threads, which is which is a hybrid of
Instagram's Twitter.

Ody (07:24):
Yes, their version of it.

Nathan Mumm (07:25):
So that was supposed to be the kind of the
TikTok equivalent, but thatdidn't work out really well.

Marc Gregoire (07:31):
I don't know anybody on it.
Nobody talks positive about it.

Ody (07:35):
I like it in the sense that it's a better community than
Twitter.

Marc Gregoire (07:39):
Okay.

Ody (07:40):
But I love the what do you call it?
I love the pop culture aspectof Twitter.

Nathan Mumm (07:45):
Okay, and then you know a lot of people use Twitter
still, I mean all the.
Nba teams do when I look for myroster.

Marc Gregoire (07:50):
You gotta get them on Blue Social.

Nathan Mumm (07:52):
Well, Blue Sky is going to be, Blue Sky is going
to take it.
That's what I think.
All right, now We'll see.

Marc Gregoire (07:56):
All right, we got story number two, yeah, so 98
feet below the surface is whatwe're talking about.
Okay, and it's not in the ocean.
So NASA finds a secret militarybase at the North Pole.
What, yes?

Ody (08:11):
Okay.

Marc Gregoire (08:12):
So this has a nice twist to it, this story.
Okay so scientists from the JPLso the Jet Propulsion
Laboratory have uncovered amassive abandoned military base
beneath the North Pole inGreenland.
This discovery happened whilethey were studying the polar ice
layer with a high-precisionradar, and they did not expect
to find this.
I guess they were neverinformed by the US government

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that we had a secret base in theNorth Pole in the past.
Yeah so it's called Camp Sentry, also known as the City Under
the Ice.
It's a relic from the Cold warthat was built by the U S army
corps of engineers in 1959.
Wow, it was designed to testconstruction techniques in the
Arctic and experiment withdeployment of nuclear weapons,
reaching a network of 0.75, orthree fourths, miles of

(08:57):
interconnected tunnels.
Okay so the world wars lovetunnels.

Nathan Mumm (09:02):
Yes, so I mean this is this is like a almost a real
live fallout type of deal.
If you've ever seen like the tvshow fallout or if you're
familiar.
So this is like a bunker builtunderground where people are
living in, with tunnels.

Ody (09:14):
They have everything in those tunnels or a more modern
take yeah the planet of the war,on the planet of the apes.
Okay, yeah, so in in thosetunnels.

Marc Gregoire (09:23):
Talking about that, yeah, they had a hospital,
a laboratory, a chapel, alibrary, a recreation areas with
a capacity for 200 people, andit was powered by a nuclear
reactor, the pm2a, and the sitewas abandoned in a beautiful
year of 1967 okay why is that abeautiful year?

Nathan Mumm (09:42):
great people were born, that okay.
Is that your birthday, the yearI get?

Ody (09:45):
it.
I wonder who.

Nathan Mumm (09:46):
All right.
So how was this discovered?
Though, let's talk about thetechnology.
Is there a certain technologythat was actually developed to
find this information?

Marc Gregoire (09:55):
Yeah, well, it wasn't that complex.
So scientists were flying overin their Gulfstream III aircraft
and it was equipped with NASA'suninhibited aerial vehicle
synthetic aperture radar Okay,that's a mouthful yeah, the
UAVSAR.
So it was just radar andthey're just flying over taking
a look at the ice layers andboom, there it was, this huge

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city under the ice.
So their goal was to calibrate,validate and understand the
capacities and limitations ofthe radar.
So they're just testing out theradar for mapping the internal
layers of the ice.
But they found a secretsurprise, and I don't know how
secret it is.
I mean, it was a World War IIbase that has been constructed
by a lot by the militaryengineers.

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So a ton of people worked on it,so yeah, but it wasn't released
.
It wasn't right, but nothingwas really done with it.
It sounds like so it justeverybody didn't really care,
they just kind of forgot aboutit, they just kind of left it
one day and kind of like thehatch and lost you ever see that
yeah exactly.

Ody (10:55):
It's all this real important thing.

Nathan Mumm (10:56):
Oh my God, you had to have numbers that were
pressed every so many minutesand then, all of a sudden,
season three comes out.
We've totally forgot that.
Never mind all right.

Ody (11:02):
Well, they blew up that.
I just watched that for thefirst time.

Nathan Mumm (11:05):
They blew up the hatch that's what happened, yeah
, and desmond, and desmond'sdown there on his bike, god I
love desmond okay all right,here we go.
Well, you don't speak in asci-fi stuff.
You're gonna like, uh, thenathan nugget today.
Then I'll just tell you oh yeah, we're gonna be talking about
some sci-fi things, all right.
Story number three metaapologized for a technical error
after thousands of users sawviolent graphic videos on

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Instagram and real speed.

Marc Gregoire (11:27):
So it's two big people have to apologize on the
show today, meta, and Well,we'll be talking about that.
And Mr Moe.

Nathan Mumm (11:33):
That's right.
That's right, all right, solet's talk about it.
So these are the graphic videosthat people submit that get
blocked so that people don'thave it.
These these videos had, uh,people being shot, people being
hung, death.
I mean very, very violent, uhdisturbing um videos and graphic

(11:53):
pictures that were on this.
Well, meta apologized for atechnical error after thousands
of users saw the violent graphicvideos on their instagram real
feeds.
A meta spokesman said we havefixed an error that caused some
users to see content in theirInstagram real feeds that should
not have been recommended.
We apologize for the mistake.

Marc Gregoire (12:12):
So so let me read the subtext here and tell me if
I'm accurate or not.
They're not apologizing forhaving the content on their site
.
They're just apologizing thatcertain people that maybe didn't
want to see it saw it.

Nathan Mumm (12:25):
Well, so that's how they well, that's a big
difference.
Okay, that's how they come outwith the press release.
But here's what the story is.
These are videos that theyclassify, that should not be
shown to anybody and to anybodyOkay.
And those accidentally gotcheckmarked or got into
somebody's feeds asrecommendations.

Marc Gregoire (12:43):
Could that be because they they eliminated the
division that does this?

Nathan Mumm (12:47):
I don't know about that Meta did not comment
further on what caused theglitch.
The issue comes as Meta hasbeen making a push to boost
short-form video engagement onhis platform with rivals like
TikTok.
Tiktok has just over a monthremaining to find a new
non-Chinese owner for its USoperations or face a ban in the
country.
Instagram has been seeking toattract users.

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Worry about the possibility oflosing TikTok by introducing new
features similar to those toTikTok.
What was that, Odie?
You're all excited.

Ody (13:17):
Wait, they're still wanting to ban TikTok.

Nathan Mumm (13:20):
Yeah, yeah so.

Ody (13:22):
That's not off the table yet that's not off the table.
What is going?
Okay TikTok.

Nathan Mumm (13:25):
Yeah, that's not off the table yet what is going
on?

Ody (13:27):
I give up.

Nathan Mumm (13:29):
There's a couple people and companies that have
offered to buy TikTok fromByteDance USA, which is the
derivative of ByteDance fromChina.
So that is still out there,that someone is going to look.
I know, kevin O'Leary, do youever watch that Shark Tank show?

Ody (13:43):
Yeah, okay, kevin O'Leary, do you?

Nathan Mumm (13:44):
ever watch that Shark Tank show.
Yeah, okay, kevin O'Leary, mrHorrible or Mr Wonderful, that's
right.

Marc Gregoire (13:48):
Mr Horrible, mr Horrible.

Nathan Mumm (13:49):
Let me just tell you his royalty deals If you
sometimes you listen to them,sometimes they're not bad and
sometimes they're the stupidestthing ever.
So if he does a royalty at 2x,you're okay, if he does it for,
should probably walk away.
But long story short, he has aninvestment group that would
like to purchase that.
There's other companies thathave stepped up that are
interested in purchasing ticktock.
One of them may be in theSeattle area.

(14:12):
I know that it's interested inthat.
So we'll see what happens.
And we'll just see what happens.
I do think tick tock will besold and I'm sure that it'll be
a big press and that there areDo you think it actually will be
sold, or concessions, becauseit's different.

Marc Gregoire (14:32):
So you know, I don't want to get too political.

Mike Gorday (14:34):
Yeah.

Marc Gregoire (14:35):
But the old administration, what they were
trying to do and their purposewas one direction yeah.
And the new one seems to be adifferent direction and what
they're trying to achieve.
The new one doesn't really seemto want to ban them.

Nathan Mumm (14:48):
I think they're just trying to gain something
different out of it either sellit to an american I think
they'll sell it, I think they'llpartner with I think they're
gonna have to sell it I, I don'tor get concessions, or get huge
concessions or huge paymentsbasically, it's a business
leverage deal, yes, andeverything's kind of business
leverage right now.
All right Well.
So Meta has made significantchanges on its controversial

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policies and moderation.
The company said in Januarythey would do away with fact
checkers and is now usingcommunity notes, just like the
platform X uses.
So those are all availablethere too.

Marc Gregoire (15:24):
All right Well let's go to story number four, I
love.
Are all available there too,All right, Well, let's go to
story number four.
I love that.
Do away with fact checkers,fact checkers, and just we'll do
community, whatever you thinkyou know it's.

Nathan Mumm (15:33):
And then you can put it out there.
Well, there you go.
Story number four in August2003, a platform that allowed
you to use voice calls from aphone number that included video
conferencing was created.
This was named sky peer-to-peernow known today as skype.

Ody (15:53):
So what's?

Nathan Mumm (15:53):
happening.
Microsoft bought skype.
The company uh has billions ofdownloads.
It says it has billions ofdownloads that have been used
for their real-timecommunications.
Now microsoft chief steveballmer was the individual that
actually helped put the dealtogether for microsoft to buy
skype now I know skype isn't asprevalent in my community

(16:15):
anymore, in the us, oh, but yousaid overseas.

Marc Gregoire (16:18):
There you gotta talk about that overseas.

Nathan Mumm (16:20):
So, uh, we have great friends that are in africa
and other other countries andcontinents across the world and
let me just tell you that it isvery important to use Skype in
the communication area therewith 2G, 3g type of technologies
maybe not at the 5G type ofareas to relay, to do delayed

(16:42):
video, and Skype was really goodon a slow connection, not
always having to stream thevideo.
So it's live and all themovements are there, but kind of
bits by bits, so you couldstill see the person, still see
information, share information,and it's a but is it waning
Cause when I travel abroad?

Marc Gregoire (16:58):
yeah, Um, I have seen a shift to a different app.
Well, we're going to talk aboutthat.
I wonder if it's the same appI'm seeing.

Nathan Mumm (17:06):
Okay, well, so Microsoft announced when Windows
11 came on out, its newoperating system.
That was never going to be outbecause Windows 10 was the last
operating system they were evergoing to release, but that
changed.
It said that Microsoft Teamswould be integrated by default,
while Skype for the first timewas not.
Now, teams have seen boost inpopularity during COVID pandemic

(17:31):
as people moved their work andpersonal meetings all online.
Microsoft wants to streamlineits free service to focus on
Microsoft Teams.
Skype users now have a choiceto move over to Microsoft Teams
or export their Skype data,including chats, contacts and
call histories, into a formatthat can be imported into
another tool.
For Skype customers who paidfor some features, I have paid
for credits.
I still have some credits,probably in my account.
I think there's like 100credits.
They need to use up theirservices before it officially

(17:55):
goes dark.

Marc Gregoire (17:57):
In the next couple months.

Nathan Mumm (17:59):
Here is what they're planning to do.

Marc Gregoire (18:00):
So I know I use Teams a lot, but I do that as
part of the integrated MicrosoftSuite, since I have Office 365.
The question is can you runTeams as a standalone?

Nathan Mumm (18:09):
app.
Oh, what options are available.
In a special segment of Saywhat, we explore new
alternatives to replace Skype.
So that's going to be our mainfeature today, and you might be
surprised at our number onesuggestion.
All of that will be in our nextsegment.
Here, mark, ooh, I'm excited,all right.
Well, that ends our toptechnology stories of the week.
Moving on, we have our Say whatsegment up next.

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All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts, we do itwith a sense of humor, in less
than 60 minutes and, of course,a little whiskey on the side.
Now programming.
Note from a listener in Canada.

Marc Gregoire (19:44):
Big James Bond fan Talking about checking the
facts.
Well programming note from alistener in Canada Big James
talking about checking the facts.

Nathan Mumm (19:47):
She noted.
This comes to us from.
What was her name here?
Judy, that's right.
Judy sent us an email.
I got two emails.
She's a big James Bond.
Who was the other one?
David was another individual,was David, that's correct.
So programming note that theinformation we had from
yahoocom's entertainment segmentthat they posted on there was

(20:12):
incorrect, so we cut and pastesome of our stories.
So when it's really technologywise and this was kind of, we're
going to say what happened.
So first, first of all, rogerMoore was born in London, uk,
and Daniel Craig was born inCheshire, england, uk, so both
of those on the segment shouldhave been that those were born
in the UK, so that this would belike the third or fourth person

(20:34):
in the UK that be the new JamesBond with Bezos information.
So we want to thank Judy forbringing this to our attention
and, trust me, the intern had todrink Trader Joe's Kentucky
bourbon whiskey selection One ofour worst ever all this week
for sending us that bad article.
That is torture, that wastorture, that was torture, that

(20:57):
was torture.
So we verify the facts and wedo it with a sense of humor, but
I would think that Yahoo nevermind.
So, yes, so we will make surefrom any other, especially our
uh segments.
On technology, we spend a lotof time digging into them, but I
just kind of overlooked, andyou know what she said.

Marc Gregoire (21:15):
He could just throw it in chat, gpt, and he
would have got your informationwell, well, if she listens to
the show, she also know chat gptspits out a lot of bad
information.

Nathan Mumm (21:22):
oh, that could that could have been I could have
just done the Yahoo articlethere you go All right.
Well, today, mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseur, is in
studio, as both in the main seatright now and, of course, as
our connoisseur of whiskey.
What do we have here today?
It looks like a Knob Creek, itis.
Tell me a little bit about it.

Marc Gregoire (21:40):
Single barrel, select bourbon.
It is the Seafood Fest 2024bottle Now from Knob Creek's
website store specific offeringsfrom a bourbon barrel
specifically chosen by yourlocal retailer through their
single barrel program.
Now this one is from theBallard Cut in Seattle,
washington.
It is bold and complex.
With vanilla, nuts and oak ithas a lingering, warm, full

(22:03):
flavor.
Now the company is Beam Suntory.
The distillation is Jim BeamDistillery in Claremont,
kentucky.
It is a straight bourbon.
This one is 10 years old.
It's 120 proof, 77% corn, 13%rye, 10% malted barley and the
price is about $70 for this typeof whiskey.

Nathan Mumm (22:24):
I actually like it already, so I'll tell you it's
pretty good.
So you know what?
I don't know if I'm going togive it a thumbs up or thumbs
down, but I am definitely veryinterested in taking a look at
what we have.

Marc Gregoire (22:36):
Yeah hopefully Mike can show up for the second
half of the show, because thiswas specifically brought in for
him and I know he likes thistype of profile.

Nathan Mumm (22:42):
Okay.

Marc Gregoire (22:45):
I'm excited to hear his take.
All right, that sounds good,all right now, please don't
forget to like and subscribe.
In addition, please comment.
Let us know if you have awhiskey you'd like us to review.
Drink responsibly, heaven canwait.

Nathan Mumm (22:54):
With our first whiskey tasting completed, let's
move on to our feature segment.
Today we have on our subjects,say what the alternatives to
skype say what all right,microsoft is officially shutting

(23:15):
down skype.
Rest in peace.
Even if you haven't used theapp in years, as possible.
Skype was your introductioninto the modern video chats.
The app made it easy to callfriends and family via video, no
matter where in the world youwere at.
As long as you had a stableinternet connection, you could
Skype.
The opportunity to see videoand have audio at the same time

(23:37):
was revolutionary and, as wetalked about, skype is going for
good.
Now, once Microsoft pulls theplug on Skype, legacy users will
need a new platform to turn to.
Microsoft will encourage you toswitch to Teams and, of course,
you can do that, but I believethere are better alternatives
out there with less friction andbetter to be used.
That's why platforms that workwith people's existing accounts

(23:58):
and platforms that are the bestout there.
We decided to go through themand talk about the top five.
Now there's, of course, manydifferent apps.
You can use Viber and Signal,which are really good to have
texting and call features, andthose are private, but I'm going
to try to actually go throughwhat I would consider the top
ones that most people have.
Now let me just tell you stayaway from Telegram unless you're

(24:19):
advanced with picking up scamsand can filter out the
provocative items that they sendto you, I'd probably stay away
from that platform.
So let's start, and I'm goingto start with number one.
Number one is Google Meet.
That's right If your goal is tofind the easiest video call
solution for the average personin your contact list.
Guess what Google Meet is it In2025, changes are high that the

(24:43):
person you're trying to reachhas already created a Google
account, whether that's a Gmailaccount, a YouTube account.
Most everybody Do.
You have a Gmail account, mike.

Mike Gorday (24:53):
I've got several Gmail accounts.
Okay.

Nathan Mumm (24:55):
So this is absolutely the ability to have,
like your Gmail account on there, and so it's easy to connect
with.
If somebody doesn't have aGoogle account, that is a
requirement that they go andcreate a free Gmail account.
Now it doesn't matter reallywhat platform you're on, whether
you're on a Mac, a PC, whetheryou're on an iOS device, an

(25:15):
Android device every single oneof them has the Google
applications installed.
Google Meet works on just aboutall devices.
It's free and, of course, youget some perks if you pay for
the higher plans, includinghigh-end HD quality video.
But the main issue with GoogleMeet, though, is that it's not
necessarily all that intuitive.

(25:35):
The service does seem to bemore of a business, professional
use than casual conversation,so it isn't necessarily the
ideal Skype replacement.
But but hey, for the fact thatit's free and have to have the
user option as meetings.
I wish they would just do,probably like google chat, but
they call it meetings.
On your application, you canstill talk to family members and

(25:56):
friends for free, but skype wasfree.
Well, skype was free, skype wasfree, and skype is no longer in
, since whether it's beingretired, so since it's, you know
, there is no alternative.
Skype was the best because youwere allowed to use it.
You could talk to anybody fromSkype to Skype, and then you
could even do Skype to a phonenumber, and so it's really going
to be a shame, but I canguarantee you one of these

(26:16):
people are going to pick up and,I believe, take the mantle
after Skype goes away.
Now here's a problem, thoughthere's a 60-minute limit on
calls at the time for free users, so right now, if you use it,
you can only talk for an hour,and then you have to disconnect
and you can't connect againwithin a four-hour window.

(26:37):
So if I want to talk to you fortwo hours, I'm going to have to
talk to you for the first hourof your time stop and then I'm
gonna have to come on back andget you the next hour.

Mike Gorday (26:50):
I feel like.
I feel like I can make aprediction here.
Well, what's that?
I, I bet you google that skypeis being retired so that all
these pay, pay for services canreplace it.

Nathan Mumm (26:54):
Well, that's right.
Well, google uh meet supportsvideo calls with up to 100
participants, just as skype did.
So I don't know if if on apersonal uh family get together,
I don't know if on a personalfamily get-together, I don't
know if you need 100 people, butif you need 100 people and your
family's that large, you canstill all meet with Google Meet.
That is our number onerecommendation.
Our second recommendation isWhatsApp.

(27:15):
Like Google, whatsapp'sinsanely popular around the
world.
If you're not using WhatsApp,someone you know probably is,
whatsapp standardizes gives yousome advantages.
Someone you know probably is,whatsapp standardizes gives you
some advantages.
With Google Meet, it has a verygood chance that you have a
person that has a video accountalready set up on WhatsApp.
Better yet, the app doesn'thave a time limit for calls, so
you can talk as long as you want.

(27:36):
So the reason WhatsApp isn't atthe very top of that list is
you know who's in charge ofWhatsApp, right, facebook.
So Meta's in charge of whatsapp, right, facebook.
So meta is in charge ofwhatsapp.
So that so they automaticallymove down there, because when
you're on your calls, they canactually use recording and
information that you chat fortheir building relationship

(27:57):
model for the individuals thatare on there, so not your.
Conversations are not private.
They are still a part of thesay what so that's right, that
is right, they're not.
They are not private.
They are still a part of thesay what?
So that's right, that is right,they're not, they are not
private and they always areavailable to be used.
Now they say that they do abetter job of not using that
information and necessarily sellit.
But it only holds 32 people.

(28:18):
So if you're in a large familymaybe, uh, you can't do this and
it doesn't have this 100 people, but it does have the video
option for calls and you canswitch between video.

Mike Gorday (28:25):
And it doesn't have this 100 people, but it does
have the video option for callsand you can switch between video
and audio very simply I'm sortof of the opinion that if you
have a family that has more than100 members, that you're not
going to be persons that usetechnology to get together
you're gonna probably all do abig potluck.

Nathan Mumm (28:40):
Is that what you're saying?

Mike Gorday (28:41):
I'm thinking yeah, I'm thinking barbecues and other
, other type of get togetheryeah, all right, well, bring
your own beer, types of thingsokay, well, number three on our
list.

Nathan Mumm (28:52):
Here we got facebook messenger.
If not one meta app, why notanother?
Facebook messenger has been theoption for facebook users for
years, simply because it's builtright into meta's flagship
social network.
Now, now I use this, my wifeand I communicate on this quite
a bit, so I do use this, butsometimes I don't check it for a

(29:13):
couple days, though, becauseMessenger is kind of an
integrated chat feature that'savailable there.
Facebook Messenger also doessupport video calls for up to 50
people through a feature calledRooms, but Meta has since
discontinued the option ofallowing that to be directly
taken in the consumer version,and it's the upgraded version

(29:33):
that you need to have for that.
Now there are no time limits onMessenger calls, so if you want
to have a conversation, you cantalk as long as you want, of
course, on the Facebook platform.
Now we're going to go to the.
That was number three, and myfourth selection would be
FaceTime.
So if you have an Apple accountyour person trying to chat with
somebody from an Apple accountyou can just FaceTime them.
Very simple to use.

(29:54):
Use this for my in-laws, fordifferent people If they have an
Apple device.
I have an Apple device we canconnect.
It does not work, though, fromApple to Google.
That is is the problem, and alot of people have Google
devices.
So if I was trying to get ahold of you, Mike, and I'm
trying to do a FaceTime,probably not going to work
because your main phone is what?

Mike Gorday (30:12):
It's an Android.

Nathan Mumm (30:13):
Yes, so that is the limitation.
Otherwise, though, it's greatto use, to communicate back and
forth and to have things go asneeded.
Now things get even trickier ifyou don't do that.
My next recommendation would beto use Microsoft Teams.
So, surprisingly, they want youto switch from Skype to Teams.

(30:34):
Teams is a platform that isvery difficult to use.
Odie just gave it a thumbs down.
Why did you get Odie jump inhere real quick?
Why did you give it a thumbsdown for Microsoft Teams?

Ody (30:43):
I just hate Teams.
You have to download a wholeseparate app for what is
essentially zoom.
Yeah, and it's not worth it.
It's not worth anythingmicrosoft related.

Nathan Mumm (30:55):
I've never really enjoyed, okay, oh wow, you hate.

Ody (30:56):
So like office 365.
You don't like that, no wow,okay, well, okay.

Nathan Mumm (31:00):
Well, let me just tell you teams is not easy to
use.
It's probably the mostdifficult.
It's also not accessible.
It's not accessible.
Well, if you have a Microsoftaccount and everybody has a
Microsoft account, right?
No, not really no.

Ody (31:13):
Everybody has a Gmail account.
Yeah, they don't have a liveaccount or they don't have an
app.
You know the whole internetmeme like oh, when you go into
Internet Explorer, you type inGoogle.
Internet Explorer, you type inGoogle.

Mike Gorday (31:23):
Yeah.

Ody (31:23):
You don't go to Internet Explorer, you don't go to
Internet.

Mike Gorday (31:25):
Explorer what I mean by that is if you're
somebody who uses an interpreter, teams does not work well with
that, because you can't pinthings and let it alone.

Nathan Mumm (31:38):
Oh, really Okay.
Well, this app does support upto 100 people, but you can chat
for 60 minutes at a time.
One-on-one chats are availablefor up to 30 hours at a time, so
if I want to do a one-on-onechat, I can do 30 hours, but if
I want to do three people, 60minutes is the limit on my free
account.
Now, if I have a businessaccount with Microsoft, I get

(32:00):
the time that's available there,but it is not very easy to use.
All right, my fifthrecommendation, and this is
because of cost.
And what am I Say?
What here?

Mike Gorday (32:14):
Cheap.

Nathan Mumm (32:15):
Frugal, frugal frugal.

Mike Gorday (32:16):
All right, it's Zoom.
That's just another word.

Nathan Mumm (32:18):
Now I actually use Zoom though in my day-to-day
life.
I have a Zoom account.
I pay $19 a month just for theoptions of having a nice video
conferencing device that I don'thave to have everybody connect
to.
Our production meeting used tobe done on Zoom.
We've now moved it over toMicrosoft Teams to try to do
that, but anytime I have anybodythat is not technical guess

(32:41):
what I always send them a Zoomlink, because it's much easier
to connect to.
You can connect directly fromthe web.
The problem, though, is theirfree version.
Their free version only givesyou 40 minutes to do a call, so
unless you're so, if you'retrying to have a conversation,
40 minutes is normally not well.
Maybe if you're talking tosomebody that you don't want to
talk to very long, it'd beplenty of time, but 40 minute

(33:03):
limits really are kind ofkilling zoom's free call
features.
But, as zoom attests to, theyhave 95% of their users on their
platform pay for their services, so I guess if you want to make
it free available for longerthan 60 minutes, that would help
out.
If you don't, zoom is probablygoing to continue to have their
$19 a month service to beavailable there.

(33:25):
Sure yeah.

Mike Gorday (33:26):
Yeah.

Nathan Mumm (33:27):
So my number one recommendation is a Google Meet
platform Available for freeWeb-based client.
You don't even have to downloadanything.
Odie, have you ever used GoogleMeet?
I mean because you're anti-team.
So have you used Google Meetanytime?

Ody (33:40):
No, no, like like years ago , you haven't used google do you
have used google meet mike?

Nathan Mumm (33:46):
no, okay, so we're gonna no I, I used zoom and you
like zoom I like zoom.

Mike Gorday (33:54):
I don't like paying for zoom, okay, uh, everybody
has to use teams in myorganization now because you
know they bought into thekool-aid.
Yeah, so now we use now, we useTeams.
You use Teams all the time.

Nathan Mumm (34:06):
Yeah.

Mike Gorday (34:06):
There you go.
And then I think somebody hereat the table switched us from
Zoom to Teams.
I know.

Marc Gregoire (34:13):
How dare they?

Mike Gorday (34:14):
Because you know, for some reason, for some,
unknown, for some unknown reason.

Nathan Mumm (34:19):
Stupid reason Because we all need to figure
out how to use the Microsoftsystems.
That's right, that.

Mike Gorday (34:23):
Figure out how to use the Microsoft systems.
That's right.

Nathan Mumm (34:25):
That's because we have a Microsoft Microsoft.
It took me a long time to moveto Teams from Zoom.

Ody (34:30):
Yeah, I wish we'd nip it in the bud, okay.

Nathan Mumm (34:33):
Well, that ends our segment.
Say what Next?
We have Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
All right, here's my questionto you, Mike.
From secret bases to governmentcover-ups, do you think our
government has secretssurrounding aliens and life

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outside our planet?

Mike Gorday (34:57):
Why are you asking me that question?

Nathan Mumm (34:58):
Well, this is going to continue on to the Nathan
Nuggets.
So this is all kind of buildingup from our story that we
talked about the secret bunkerand everything.

Mike Gorday (35:04):
Okay, you know everybody has a real thing about
this alien stuff, right?
Yeah, you know, if you watchancient aliens and that guy with
the hair, you know he's alwaystalking about this unexplained.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Does the government have secrets?

Mike Gorday (35:19):
uh, absolutely.
I believe the government hassecrets.
Do they have governmentgovernment secrets about aliens?
I don't know, you don't know.
You know if they probably, theyprobably do okay, but I can't
answer whether or not aliensexist on this planet.

Nathan Mumm (35:37):
If you think that they, if you think there's
secrets and they're covering itup, that means you must think
that there's life outside ourplanet.

Mike Gorday (35:44):
I think there's life outside our planet, but I'm
not convinced that life visitsour planet from other places.
Okay Right, so you know, Iwatch a lot of these programs at
times, and most of the evidencethat people get are difficult
to interpret, are difficult tointerpret.

(36:12):
Uh, also, the human brain likesto put patterns, knowing
patterns, on the thing.
So when we see something, wewant to attribute certain things
to it.
So we, we will.
We will convince ourselves thatwhat we saw was a flying saucer
rather than something else.
All right, well, all right,well, guess what?

Nathan Mumm (36:25):
we're gonna be talking about.

Mike Gorday (36:26):
I don't is this our ancient aliens?

Nathan Mumm (36:29):
well, yeah, I, I love watching that.
And then there's one with, uh,dan akroyd out there like, and
there's one with william shatner, I think it's.
There's a bunch of those out, Iknow there.

Mike Gorday (36:39):
I know it's, it's, it's a, it's a phenomenon, it's
like cryptozoology and all theseother things.
These, these are things that Ithink are fun to.
How are the pyramids?
The pyramids were built byhuman beings and ingenuity.
That's one of the problems withthese things with the aliens is
that it takes away from humaningenuity and intelligence.

(37:03):
The pyramids were built bypeople and intelligence.
The pyramids were built bypeople.
They weren't built by alienswith secret little rock moving
technology.
Okay, that makes sense.

Nathan Mumm (37:14):
Mike, thank you for that mesmerizing moment.
Up next we have this Week inTechnology.
Say what, now would be a greattime to enjoy a little whiskey
on the side, as we're going tobe doing so during the break.
You're listening to Tech TimeRadio with Nathan Mumm.
See you in a few minutes.

Mike Gorday (37:26):
Hey Mike, yo what's ?

Nathan Mumm (37:27):
up, hey.
So you know what?

Mike Gorday (37:32):
We need people to start liking our social media
page If you like our show, ifyou really like us you could use
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Is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon.
If you really like us, you canlike us at patreoncom, I butcher
the English language.

Nathan Mumm (37:47):
You know, you butcher the English language all
the time it's patreoncom,patreoncom.

Mike Gorday (37:53):
If you really like our show, you can subscribe to
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Nathan Mumm (37:58):
And you can visit us on that Facebook platform.
You know the one thatZuckerberg owns, the one that we
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Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
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You know what?
There's a trend here.

Mike Gorday (38:12):
It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech
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Nathan Mumm (38:19):
That's at Tech Time Radio.
Or you can find us on TikTok,and it's Tech Time Radio.
It's Tech Time Radio.

Mike Gorday (38:24):
Like and subscribe to our social media Like us
today we need you to like us.
Like us and subscribe.
That's it.

Nathan Mumm (38:31):
That's it.
It's that simple.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
And now let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm (38:39):
All right, we're going to our way back machine to
March 9th 1999.
Al Gore was misquoted as sayingI invented the internet.
No, he did.

Mike Gorday (38:50):
Well, hang on, let's talk about it.
The United States VicePresident.

Nathan Mumm (38:53):
Al Gore gives an interview on CNN's Late Edition
in which he states, quoteunquote during my service in the
United States Congress, I tookthe initiative in creating the
internet.
I took the initiative in movingforward a whole range of
initiatives that have proven tobe important to our country's
economic growth andenvironmental protection,

(39:14):
improvements in our educationalsystem.
This is the famous statementthat was then kind of misquoted
to say, and that he said that heinvented the internet, but that
was a big.
That was a big.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
That was probably the reason that he invented the
internet, but that was a big.

Nathan Mumm (39:25):
That was a big, I was probably.
The reason that he did not winthe election was well there was
also the lockbox there was.

Mike Gorday (39:32):
I don't know if you remember the lockbox.

Nathan Mumm (39:34):
You're going to put stuff in the lockbox, yeah, so
what I think he was trying tosay is that, during his time in
congress, he approved bills thatallowed people to do different
things, which which includedtechnology.
Sure but you know, you know,soundbites are soundbites.
Right, that's right.

Mike Gorday (39:50):
We want somebody who's going to stand up for the
rights of everybody and tell usthat you know he created the
internet.
That's right All right.

Nathan Mumm (39:57):
Well, that was this Week in Technology.
If you ever wanted to watchsome Tech Time history, with
over 230-plus weekly broadcastsspanning our four plus years of
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Whiskey Mumble.

Nathan Mumm (41:05):
All right.
All right For those that arejoining the show and you say
Mike just mesmerized and cameright into the deal.

Mike Gorday (41:12):
I don't think that was very mesmerizing, but
whatever All right, so he gotstuck in some traffic, is that?

Nathan Mumm (41:19):
I don't want to talk about it?
Okay, all right, there we go.
We're glad that you're here.
All right, let's talk about ourwhiskey though.
Let's talk about our whiskeythough.

Marc Gregoire (41:24):
Let's go right into that Well before we do that
, it's March 4th today.
Okay, and I love today, and Iknow Odie's going to jump in on
this one and laugh out loud.

Mike Gorday (41:32):
And she finds out what it is Sorry, laughing out
loud.

Nathan Mumm (41:40):
Today, Nathan, just for you, it's National Grammar
Day, oh wow.

Marc Gregoire (41:43):
So today we let our inner Nathan out for
National Grammar Day.

Ody (41:46):
Right after I roasted him once.

Mike Gorday (41:49):
Wait, did we let our inner Nathan out, or did we
put it in a lockbox?

Nathan Mumm (41:54):
Maybe you know what I created the internet.
Okay, all right.

Mike Gorday (41:59):
You created bad speaking.
Okay, there you go.

Marc Gregoire (42:01):
So the motto for today is it's not only a date,
it is an imperative.
March 4th, on March 4th, tospeak well, write well and help
others do the same.
So we at Tech Time Radio takethis seriously.
So we will not have NathanSpeak.
Another word for today there wego.

Mike Gorday (42:20):
Remember those commas, buddy, remember those
commas.

Nathan Mumm (42:23):
I use Grammarly.

Ody (42:25):
It don't matter what you use.
You can write thingsphonetically.
You're still going to mess itup.
Thank you guys.

Nathan Mumm (42:34):
I love my staff.

Mike Gorday (42:39):
Unlike Nathan Abraham.

Marc Gregoire (42:40):
Lincoln had an excellent grammar skill and used
them to craft eloquent speeches.
Now the name of Knob Creek payshomage to a small creek that
runs through President AbrahamLincoln's childhood home on the
Knob Creek Farm in Kentucky.
Okay, this name was chosen toevoke the simplicity and

(43:03):
hands-on craftsmanship typicalof pre-prohibition small batch
bourbon Now Jim Beam bourbons,are beloved in the whiskey
community.
Their profile generally doesnot align with my palate.
They tend to be very nutty,moving forward towards peanuts
and peanut butter, which is notmy jam.

Mike Gorday (43:18):
However, I saw what you did there it's not my jam
to get that peanut butter andjam.

Marc Gregoire (43:22):
Hopefully today's whiskey is like peanut butter
and jelly.
However, Knob Creek picksespecially.
I jammed to get that peanutbutter and jelly, so hopefully
today's whiskey is like peanutbutter and jelly.

Nathan Mumm (43:26):
Okay, all right.

Marc Gregoire (43:28):
However, knob Creek picks, especially picked
by Tommy from the Ballard Cut,have been delicious, and this is
no exception.
This is an easy drinking highproof bourbon, okay yeah.

Nathan Mumm (43:39):
I'm enjoying this.
Well, you know what Whiskey andtechnology are a great pairing,
just like streaming servicesand non-scipical commercials.

Mike Gorday (43:47):
Are you serious?
I'm still on this.
You just eat this like peanutbutter and jelly.

Nathan Mumm (43:50):
I know but I wanted to go back to.
I haven't ranted enough abouthaving to watch a 45-minute show
on a streaming service thattakes me an hour and 15 minutes
instead of the hour that itwould be on regular television.

Ody (44:02):
Have you thought about pirating instead?

Nathan Mumm (44:04):
hour that it would be on regular television have
you thought about piratinginstead.

Marc Gregoire (44:08):
Oh, that's a great idea.
Thanks, odie.
Wow, what do you mean?

Nathan Mumm (44:11):
The pirate king over there.
Has he thought of pirating?
That's like Odie.
Odie is like the hacker.
Odie works on the side for oneof those other type of places.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I'm sorry Wow.

Nathan Mumm (44:20):
Okay, all right.
Well, you know what Guys you'regoing to love this.
Let's get ready now for ourtechnology fail.
We are out of time.
Congratulations, you're afailure.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes, did I.

Nathan Mumm (44:39):
Yes, All right.
This week's technology failcomes to us from, for the first
time ever, Microsoft, yourbuddies.
Microsoft, Microsoft's co-pilotAI assistant, is exposing
contents of more than 20,000private GitHub repositories from
companies including Google,Intel, PayPal, IBM and many

(45:03):
others and of, of course,themselves.
Now these repositories belongto more than 16,000
organizations who originallyposted to GitHub as public
information, but then later theywent in and they set their
privacy to private, often afterdevelopers responsible realized
that they containedauthentication credentials
allowing unauthorized access tothe type of confidential data.

(45:26):
But months later, these privatepages remain available if you
go to Microsoft Copilot andsearch for them Now.
The AI security firm Lassodiscovered the behavior in the
second half of 2024.
After finding in January, theCopilot continued to store
private repositories and makethem available.
Lasso set out to measure howbig this problem really was

(45:50):
After discovering Microsoft wasexposing one of Lasso's own
private repositories.
The Lasso research traced theproblem back to a caching
mechanism in Bing.
The Microsoft search engineindexed the pages when they were
originally published as publicand then never bothered to
remove the entries from thepages when they were originally
published as public, and thennever bothered to remove the
entries from the pages when theywere turned to private later.

(46:10):
Since copilot uses bing as itsprimary search engine, the
private data was available inthe ai chatbot for everyone to
see.
So this is a I consider this adouble fail, so it's kind of a
double well, so it's also a failon people when you create your
repositories.
That's why it's a double fail.

Marc Gregoire (46:26):
It's kind of a double well, so it's also a fail
on people when you create yourrepositories.
That's why it's a double fail.
It's that is the.
You put it public.

Nathan Mumm (46:30):
It's technically public for that period of time,
and so what happened is none ofthe new data is out there, but
it's the old data that waspublicly available at the time
that it indexed it.
And then people were like, oops, guess what?
That's probably shouldn't bepublic, it should probably be
private.
But now dropbox does a good jobof this, because when you
create an actual folder withindropbox, it always has it

(46:51):
private by default.
So you have to actually go onin and make it public.
Github did not do that.
It does that now triple fail soit did not do that originally.

Mike Gorday (47:00):
When you would create a repository, it always
had it as public by default soyou have to go on, and then we
need to get al to come back andfix this stuff oh we do, don't
we that's right, okay.

Nathan Mumm (47:09):
Well, that was our technology fail.
Now we're going to head out toour last commercial break.
When we turn, we got a longtime topic all of you guys are
going to enjoy on the nathannugget.
Then, of course, we have ourpick of the day.
So sit back, raise a glass.
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Mike Gorday (47:29):
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Speaker 1 (47:49):
The book pository and more.
This is your nugget of the week.

Nathan Mumm (47:54):
All right, this is the nathan nugget.
Now some sci-fi tv shows havegotten better with time and
makes for a great rewatch.
I'm a big.
I've been watching this newshow called Paradise on Hulu
Unbelievable.
So guess what I decided to do?
I decided to go through andcreate a list of the eight most,
in my opinion, popular sci-fi.
I'm going to start with eight.

(48:14):
I'm going to move all the wayon down.
These are TV shows that youshould go out and rewatch that
are sci-fi related.
Now, I did not put the X-Filesin there, because that's kind of
a drama, sci-fi and mystery, sothat was eliminated from this
list and so people are going tobe like that's the best.

Marc Gregoire (48:32):
That would be number one, possibly, okay, so.

Nathan Mumm (48:34):
I have sci-fi and here we go, ready to go.
Number eight, warehouse 13.
From 2009 to 2014, a SecretService agent essentially goes
in and they are taking care ofWarehouse 13 in rural South
Dakota.
They find themselves a part ofa team of agents tasked with
tracking down and recoveringsupernatural artifacts to be

(48:56):
stored in the warehouse.
Now have you seen Warehouse 13,?
Mark or Mike?
Have you guys seen that show?

Mike Gorday (49:00):
Yep, all right, yep , it's a spinoff of Eureka.

Nathan Mumm (49:03):
Okay, did you like Warehouse 13?
Do you think it's a pretty goodsci-fi?

Mike Gorday (49:07):
show.
Yeah, I thought it was prettygood.

Nathan Mumm (49:08):
All right, mark.
Have you seen that?
Never even heard of it.
Okay, well, it should be onyour list.
Have you seen it, odie?
No, warehouse 13.
All right, now, we All right.
Miscalculation during awormhole jump leads a group of
friends and strangers to travelbetween alternate Earths.

(49:29):
So this is kind of like beforeMarvel decided to do the whole
multiverse using a handhelddevice with their own set of
rules.
They go and they take a look ateverything from when men ruled
the world and English won theRevolutionary War, all different
type of subjects that happenedor didn't happen in history, and
they explore each RevolutionaryWar, all different type of
subjects that happened or didn'thappen in history, and they
explore each of those items.
Sliders Now, this has JerryO'Connell in it.

(49:53):
It's got John Rias Davies, soit's got a pretty good group of
cast that's in there.
It was on for five seasons.
Have you seen that?

Mike Gorday (50:02):
Mike, I remember watching it way back, way back
when.
Did you seen that, Mike?
I remember watching it way backwhen Did you like it Sliders?
You know I'm going to sayprobably not, because I don't
have a lot of memories about it,mark, did you ever?

Nathan Mumm (50:15):
watch Sliders.
It was Quantum Leap.

Marc Gregoire (50:17):
It would have been probably almost my number
three or number four on the list, except for if you take the
last couple of seasons wherethey started changing the cast a
little bit and they had somedifferent writers.

Nathan Mumm (50:27):
Yeah they jumped the shark it was the first three
seasons are phenomenal and thelast two kind of struggled a bit
.

Marc Gregoire (50:34):
Their storylines remind me of a lot of Star
Trek's so that was seven.

Nathan Mumm (50:38):
Now we're going to six.
Tv show called Fringe from2008-2013 sci-fi regarding two
worlds and had olivia dunninghamwas the character walter bishop
and peter bishop their travelbetween both uh, our standard
universe and a parallel universe.
Leonard nimoy was a uh regularon that cast also.

(51:02):
It was was on for five seasons.
Came on out in 2008.
Did you ever watch the TV showFringe, mike?
Yeah, that was a pretty goodone.

Mike Gorday (51:11):
Pretty good Did you ever watch that, Mark I?

Nathan Mumm (51:12):
re-watched it.

Marc Gregoire (51:13):
I never got into it.

Nathan Mumm (51:14):
You never got into it.
All right, Odie, did you watchFringe?
See, these are all things thatyou're going to want to go home
and then add them to the queueof your list.

Mike Gorday (51:21):
All right, my next one.
That's a serious look ofcontempt over there?

Nathan Mumm (51:25):
Is he over there?
She was like yeah.

Mike Gorday (51:28):
F you dude.

Nathan Mumm (51:28):
All right, okay, the next one, third.

Marc Gregoire (51:35):
Rock from the Sun 1996 to 2001.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
All right, what that's?

Nathan Mumm (51:38):
not sci-fi.

Mike Gorday (51:39):
Well, it's a sitcom about extraterrestrials that
come on down and deal with.

Nathan Mumm (51:42):
So that is sci-fi.
It's aliens coming in.

Mike Gorday (51:43):
This was a really good show, but I'm not sure it
should be on this list.

Nathan Mumm (51:46):
You don't think it should be on this list.
Well, I think it's sci-fi-less.
It's a very good show.
It's a phenomenal showPhenomenal.
So it's a sci-fi show.
It's about aliens having todeal with people in America, in
the world, and how crazy we arecompared to their alien life
forms.
John lithgow was on it.
I mean a great cast, great cast.

(52:07):
So you watch that.
Jane curtin, yep, yeah, yeah,uh, uh.
Joseph gordon levitt was onthere too.
That's right, he was the kid hewas the kid.

Mike Gorday (52:18):
Yeah, that's right, all right okay here we go.

Nathan Mumm (52:20):
this is probably one of, I think, the all-time.
This is the largest episodic TVseries of all time for sci-fi
Episodic Episodic, because theywould do 24 episodes in a season
instead of just 10 or 12.

Mike Gorday (52:35):
This one's a big one.

Nathan Mumm (52:36):
Stargate SG-1 from 1997 to 2007.
All right, this had to do witha spinoff of the television
series.
No no no, no.

Mike Gorday (52:47):
Or the movie, oh the movie.

Nathan Mumm (52:48):
Oh, the movie.
Sorry, it came with the movie.
And then there was two otherspinoffs that happened from
Stargate SG-1 that were alsoother Stargate series.
Now, mark, did you watchStargate SG-1?

Marc Gregoire (52:58):
I've watched episodes Once again.
It's another one I can neverreally get into.

Mike Gorday (53:02):
Wow, I could never really get into.
Wow, wow, okay, mark, you haveto move on out the door there.

Nathan Mumm (53:08):
All right, this is one of my favorites.
This is number two on my list.

Marc Gregoire (53:11):
This is number two.

Nathan Mumm (53:12):
Well, no, this is not number two on my list, but
this is like Number two.
I have a couple that are comingup, but this is.
I'm still waiting for thereally good ones.
Well, hang on, they're comingon up here All right so.
Stargate was there.
Moving next on the list down,moving to number one.
Number one.
I think we will not have anydisagreement on it at all.
The next one I have moving uphere is Quantum Leap from 1989

(53:32):
to 1993.
It's number one?
No, it's not number one.

Marc Gregoire (53:37):
What number is that on your list?

Nathan Mumm (53:38):
This is number three.
This is number three.

Marc Gregoire (53:43):
Yeah, you're missing some.
Well, hang on.
This is number three.
Yeah, you're missing some.
Hang on.

Nathan Mumm (53:47):
This is number three this is what we got.
Quantum Leap Scott Bakula goes.

Marc Gregoire (53:49):
Well, that was phenomenal.
I mean, that's one of my twoall times.

Nathan Mumm (53:53):
Okay, so you're two all times.

Marc Gregoire (53:55):
That's half of my two.

Nathan Mumm (53:56):
all times it's half , your all Okay.
So you watched Quantum Leap,right, mike?
Yep, okay, and you like QuantumLeap, was that it?

Mike Gorday (54:04):
was pretty good yeah.

Nathan Mumm (54:05):
It's pretty good.

Mike Gorday (54:06):
I don't think it's number one yet.

Nathan Mumm (54:07):
It's old.
It is old Now.
They did a reboot of it on NBCfor two seasons and it was okay,
but it ended with a cliffhangerthat never finished, and so I'm
really kind of disappointed.
I think they thought they'dcome back for their third season
.

Mike Gorday (54:21):
They're going to come back and do a.
What's that movie?

Nathan Mumm (54:24):
A reboot, one A reboot or something.
All right, here we go.
Number two I think there'll besome controversy, but that's
okay.
Battlestar Galactica 2004 to2009.

Mike Gorday (54:36):
The remake.

Nathan Mumm (54:37):
Well, the remake was really good, but the
original was also very good.

Mike Gorday (54:42):
The original was good, but it was very campy, it
was very campy, it was verycampy.

Nathan Mumm (54:46):
It got campy really fast it did.
It started out really reallygood with the first season.
Actually, the first season ofthe original series was really
good too, and then it got intomore Buck Rogers-like type of
deal.

Mike Gorday (54:59):
That's the curse of 70s.
Sci-fi was camp.
You got that.

Marc Gregoire (55:05):
Yeah, your list is flawed.

Nathan Mumm (55:07):
Why is that?

Marc Gregoire (55:08):
Because you go to number one, which has to be
Star Trek.

Nathan Mumm (55:11):
We already know that, but where is?

Marc Gregoire (55:13):
Buck Rogers, as you just mentioned, he didn't
make my list.

Ody (55:16):
Where is?

Marc Gregoire (55:17):
Alf.

Nathan Mumm (55:17):
Where's Orville?
Oh, oh, okay.
Well, number one, here's numberone.
Nathan List sucks.
Star Trek the Next Generation1987 to 1994.

Marc Gregoire (55:31):
Oh, you limited it to one series, your list is
really flat.
The top five could have beenall the different series.
Oh the Star Trek, oh my gosh.

Nathan Mumm (55:40):
We all knew this was coming, so if you have
different, opinions, you need toput them in the comments on
YouTube, or you need to send usan email, just like Judy did, so
you can tell me what your topfive or your top ten list would
be.

Marc Gregoire (55:52):
You're going to get all the Star Wars people.

Nathan Mumm (55:56):
What Star Wars series is going to be good?
The Mandalorian has been okay,but it really dipped after the
Boba Fett series.

Ody (56:04):
The Clone Wars is a really good series.

Mike Gorday (56:07):
Yeah, the Clone Wars is really good.
Yeah, andor was really good.

Nathan Mumm (56:13):
I put Lost on there as well.
You put Lost as a sci-fi Lost,didn't even know.

Ody (56:18):
What do you mean?
They had time travel I neverknow yeah.

Nathan Mumm (56:23):
Lost was Lost.
Let me just tell you I havenever gone back and watched Lost
.
I own it and I purchased it andI've never watched it.
You know what I'm re-watching?

Mike Gorday (56:30):
Star Trek, the Next Generation.
Everybody got disappointed withthe big reveal at the end.
That was a say what moment,what?

Nathan Mumm (56:38):
Let's talk about this cast Star Trek the Next
Generation.
You had LeVar Barton, you hadBrent Spiner.

Mike Gorday (56:45):
You had Brent Spiner LeVar.

Nathan Mumm (56:45):
Burton Burton.
You had Brent Spiner, you hadWill Wheaton.
I mean everybody likes a littleWesley, right?

Mike Gorday (56:51):
A little.
Everybody hated Wesley Poor guyJonathan Frakes.

Nathan Mumm (56:54):
He's actually made a pretty good comeback.
Now Will Wheaton has.

Marc Gregoire (56:58):
Jonathan Frakes, patrick Stewart I love him.
He's a great director too, too,for some of their the best
episodes are usually directed byhim.

Nathan Mumm (57:05):
Marina Sertz, and the list goes on and on.
Remember, they even had the.
A-team guy, dwight, was onthere for a little bit.
The A-Team Murdoch guy was onthere, dwight, whatever his name
is.

Marc Gregoire (57:17):
Yeah, what happened to Twilight Zone?

Nathan Mumm (57:21):
I didn't make the list.
I'm not a big Twilight Zone.
How?

Ody (57:24):
are you not going to include Stranger Things?

Mike Gorday (57:28):
It's not on the list.

Ody (57:29):
This is specifically like old people.

Mike Gorday (57:31):
Man, you're getting roasted dude, you are getting
hooked.
This is Nathan's list.
Have you heard?
Thank you.
Thank you, Dr who.

Marc Gregoire (57:40):
You are so cooked buddy, did you do any research
or fact checking today?
These are all what.

Ody (57:44):
Did you do any research or fact checking today?
What about the Walking Dead?

Nathan Mumm (57:46):
Walking Dead isn't sci-fi.
What do you mean?
It's zombie, zombies aren'tsci-fi.

Ody (57:52):
So we're going specifically with Outer Space.

Marc Gregoire (57:55):
And then the one with why the most intense fan
following it's not big butintense Firefly.

Mike Gorday (58:01):
Yeah, where was Firefly?
Oh, dude, you're in troubledude, what about the 100?
Nathan, you're cooked man.
You're going to get a lot ofbacklash, come on.

Nathan Mumm (58:14):
Star Trek, the Next Generation, is number one.
Number two is BattlestarGalactica.
Number three is Quantum Leap.
These are solid.
Number four is Stargate SG-1.
How can you not say that those?

Mike Gorday (58:24):
are in the top list .

Nathan Mumm (58:26):
No, those are good, but you know you're already
rocked from the sun, but you'reso limited.

Mike Gorday (58:29):
Your absence of certain ones.
You've really stirred a pot onthis.

Nathan Mumm (58:33):
I'm rewatching Sliders right now.
It's actually really, reallygood I couldn't believe how good
it is.

Marc Gregoire (58:37):
I like Sliders on the list.
I love Sliders.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
And that's right and now our pick of the day for our
whiskey tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop all right.

Marc Gregoire (59:04):
Right, moving Nathan from the hot water to the
brown water.
Okay, so we are drinking KnobCreek single barrel select
bourbon.
This is the Seafood Fest 2024pick from the Ballard Cut.
It is 10 years old.
Jim Bean Distillery Straightbourbon, 120 proof Goes for
about $70.

Nathan Mumm (59:23):
All right, I am going to give it a thumbs up.
I like it.
Thumbs up for me, you like ittoo?

Mike Gorday (59:27):
Yeah it's really good.

Nathan Mumm (59:30):
So this is from your little bar that you hang
out in the Ballard area.
Is this from that guy?
Yep.

Marc Gregoire (59:35):
He does a pretty good job.
Probably the best whiskey barin the Seattle area Is it.
Now, is it the best whiskey?

Mike Gorday (59:46):
bar in the Pacific Northwest.
Yes, For me it is.
I've been to most of them.
I don't want to say all of them.

Marc Gregoire (59:51):
It's my top one.

Mike Gorday (59:54):
How many of them are reconstituted speakeasies?

Marc Gregoire (01:00:00):
One, two, two that I'm aware of, probably a
few others, that's cool.

Nathan Mumm (01:00:04):
We want to thank our listeners for joining the
program.
Listeners, we want to hear fromyou.
I want to hear your top fivelist of sci-fi shows.

Mike Gorday (01:00:11):
If you disagree with me make sure you put it in
there.
Roast them dude.

Nathan Mumm (01:00:13):
Roast them Send it to press at techtimeradiocom or
put those comments in theYouTube video so I can take a
look at them.
And You're wrong, you're wrong,you're wrong, you're wrong.
All right, well, we want totell everybody.
Thank you so much for listening.
That's right.
Remember, the science oftomorrow starts with the
technology of today.
See all you guys next weekLater.
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