The battle for AI dominance takes a dramatic turn as the Department of Justice abandons its push for Google to divest from artificial intelligence firms like Anthropic. While still pursuing Chrome browser divestiture, this strategic shift acknowledges the complex balance between antitrust enforcement and maintaining America's competitive edge in the rapidly evolving AI landscape.
Customer manipulation tactics come under fire with HP's now-abandoned policy of forcing callers to wait 15 minutes before speaking with support staff. This deliberate friction point—designed to push users toward digital support channels—exemplifies how companies use pain-pleasure dynamics to shape consumer behavior, similar to streaming services increasing ad frequency to drive premium subscriptions.
Breaking language barriers might soon become as simple as sharing an earbud. The innovative Monoise PG2 translation earbuds offer real-time translation of over 100 languages directly into users' ears, potentially transforming international travel and diverse workplaces despite practical concerns about sharing earpieces with strangers.
The scientific frontier brings both wonder and warning. Colossal Lab's woolly mammoth revival project advances with scientists creating "woolly mice" to test mammoth gene sequences. Meanwhile, the integrity of research faces threats from fraudulent studies contaminating even reputable journals—a problem magnified as AI systems train on potentially flawed research, creating a dangerous feedback loop of misinformation.
Medical technology leaps forward with Forest Neurotech's non-invasive brain implant that uses targeted ultrasound to treat anxiety and depression without penetrating brain tissue. This breakthrough represents a significant advancement over competitors like Neuralink, potentially offering less invasive options for neurological treatment.
Join us as we navigate these fascinating intersections of technology, ethics, and innovation while enjoying our whiskey pick of the week, Smokey Hill Barrel Proof bourbon—powerful but perhaps not worth its premium price tag.
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Now on today's show Now on today's show.
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Welcome to Tech Time Radio, where we explore
this week's hottest tech buzz.
Now the Department of Justicemakes headlines with a major
move in the AI space andGoogle's Chrome browser.
We're going to break into thatas our main story of the day.
Gwen Way returns with a can'tmiss gadget and gear segment
while we dive into thegroundbreaking brain chip trials
in a SpaceX rocket mishap.
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Now scientists are teasing aJurassic style comeback, hp
shakes up its policies andYouTube reveals a new
subscription tier Plus.
Of course, we have our guest,james Riddle, who joins the show
, so he's going to be addinginto more of the information on
the medical technology side.
In addition, we have ourstandard features and a possible
Nathan Nugget and, of course,our pick of the day whiskey
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tasting.
To see if our selected whiskeypick is zero, one or two thumbs
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But now it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
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Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:48):
All right, story number one Last Friday, the US
Department of Justice abandonedits proposal to mandate the
Alphabet's Google divestmentinto artificial intelligent
firms, including a competitor toOpenAI with Anthropic let's go
to Corinne Westland for more onthis story.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Google will no longer be required to sell its
investments in artificialintelligence startups like
Anthropic as a remedy for itsmonopoly on internet search,
according to a revisedDepartment of Justice proposal.
It now notes that forcingGoogle to sell its Anthropix day
could cause unintendedconsequences in the evolving AI
space.
The DOJ is still recommendingthat Google be forced to divest
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its Chrome browser, despite thecompany's entreaties to the new
administration for a lessaggressive stance.
Have fun with all the whiskeyon the show today.
Back to you guys in the studio.
Nathan Mumm (03:45):
All right.
The Department of Justice,along with 38 state attorney
generals, is still pursuing, ofcourse, the court order that
would require Google to divestits Chrome browser and implement
other strategies to addresswhat the judge have deemed a
monopoly in Google's enterprise.
But a Google spokesman statedthat the broad proposal goes far
beyond the court's ruling andwould negatively impact
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consumers, the economy and, ofcourse, the national security in
the United States.
Google holds a minority stakein Anthropic that is valued at
over billions of dollars.
Losing the investment could puta disadvantage to the company
compared to OpenAI and its newpartner partner, microsoft, as
noted by Anthropic in a Februarycourt statement.
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Now prosecutors provided newevidence since their draft
recommendations in November oflast year, indicating that
prohibiting Google from AIinvestments might lead to an
unforeseen effect in theevolving AI sector.
As mentioned in the finalproposal on Friday, they also
requested that Google notify thegovernment about any future
generative AI investments.
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Now this significant case isamong several US antitrust
lawsuits targeting big techfirms.
Apple, meta Platforms andAmazoncom are also accused of
sustaining illegal monopolieswithin their market.
Now, since the Trump election,google has argued that the
Department of Justice approachin this case could cripple its
competitiveness in the AI space,therefore endangering America's
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global economy and technologyleadership.
So it's very interesting.
Let's kind of talk about this alittle bit, mike.
So we have Google that was toldthat they had to break up their
Chrome browser.
Now, all of a sudden, they'resaying that they want to stay
competitive in the AI world.
Microsoft just investedmillions of dollars into the
going public stock of OpenAI andChatGPT.
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Do you think that this reprievefor Google, allowing them to
stay competitive in the AImarket, is good for the US
economy, or what are youthinking?
Mike Gorday (05:44):
on this.
If I were an economist, I'dprobably have a good answer for
that, but I'm not Okay.
And your feeling, though?
My feeling on it is well.
We all know how I feel about AI, so I kind of like who cares,
who cares?
Nathan Mumm (06:00):
Okay, okay.
Well, we'll see what Googledoes on this.
Mike Gorday (06:04):
Now anthropic.
Now, I guess the biggestproblem here is if, if they
think that them losing theirstake in anthropic is going to
jeopardize american internalsecurity.
Uh, that raises some questionsin my brain about okay, what are
they doing?
That would jeopardize security.
Nathan Mumm (06:27):
Well, that's the T2 Skynet stuff that they're
worried about if they don't havethe market on that.
Yeah okay, whatever.
Well, it's going to beinteresting to see what happens
here, because this is kind ofthe antitrust breakup like
Microsoft had back in the early90s type of deal.
Mike Gorday (06:42):
It's evident that we have several players in this
space that have an overbalanceof whatever market they're in.
Marc Gregoire (06:56):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (06:56):
Right, yep, and we're seeing this more and more
as we have these other companiestrying to come into these
spaces and they're not beingallowed to do so.
There you go.
Nathan Mumm (07:09):
You know I can't wait for your story, story
number two.
We talked about this in ourpre-show event.
This is going to be somethingthat you are really excited
about.
Mike Gorday (07:17):
Yeah, okay, what do ?
Nathan Mumm (07:18):
we got going on Story number two here, Mike.
Mike Gorday (07:20):
Okay, did you know that HP yes, hewitt Packard,
hewitt Packard, hewitt Packardhas a 15-minute wait time policy
for people who call in forassistance?
Nathan Mumm (07:31):
Well, explain that to me.
It's a 15-minute policy.
What does that mean?
They?
Mike Gorday (07:35):
answer within 15 minutes.
That means that if you call HPor you try to contact HP and get
a live person to help you outwith you, know whatever, maybe
your printer's not working orwhatever yeah, person to help
you out with you, know, whatever, maybe your printer's not
working or whatever yeah, uh,you have to wait a mandatory
period of 15 minutes before theywill allow you to start talking
to a real person.
Nathan Mumm (07:54):
oh, my word did you know that I well, I only found
out about it when we did thestory, but I did not know that.
You know what that?
That irritates me, because youknow I I have waited on call
with companies like ringCentraland other companies and I'll
just wait and wait, and wait.
Mike Gorday (08:09):
I believe that this is a standard operating
procedure.
Okay, they do this so that thecustomer is forced to look other
places, like their FAQ pages ortheir stupid chat bot things,
which I don't know if you, youknow, if you play that game like
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, for instance, I did this, uh,what was it?
The other day I was, I was onsomething and I tried to get on
their chat bot and, uh, it waslike not working, oh wow, and I
couldn't find any, anyalternative numbers to this.
I mean, this is one of thebiggest frustrating things.
However, hp inc last weekabruptly ditched its mandatory
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15 minute wait time that itposes on customers dialing up as
a telephone based support teamdue to initial feedback initial
feedback, I guess.
I guess a lot of people calledHP and waited 15 minutes and
then blessed them out for havingthem wait.
Okay, this came into force forfolks phoning up to call center
(09:18):
but were soon went down like alead balloon internally at HP
when some staff on the frontline, unhappy that they were
having to deal with a decisiontaken by management who didn't
have to directly interact withcustomers, left hanging on the
telephone for 15 minutes.
Now HP has abandoned thispolicy, but it does not say if
it might return again.
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Hp started to play a recordedmessage to punters ringing up as
call centers that warned of alonger wait time of 15 minutes
and apologized for theinconvenience which we all we
all know this, this littlemessage that comes in right yep,
we're sorry, we're experiencingmore than usual traffic.
Okay, yep, okay, uh.
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Hp decided the twoinconvenience customers
deliberately to make them giveup and use online support, and
we talked about this.
We talked about this at ourproduction meeting.
This is one of the ways thatcompanies really manipulate the
customer by using pain pleasure.
Nathan Mumm (10:21):
Yeah, they're hoping that you leave, if you're
.
If your issue is not, yeah,they don't urgent that's right.
Mike Gorday (10:26):
They don't want you to.
They don't want you to be onthe phone, they want to.
They want you to solve yourproblem by using and and I don't
know how you feel about lookingat faqs, but I they never
answer the question that I, thatI so I, I try faq first and
then I try chatbot.
Nathan Mumm (10:43):
So if I've now gone and I and I do actually
sometimes chatbot first even,and I like the chat, even though
I know it may be an indiaperson, but I like to initiate
that way I only call if I'vealready exhausted going to their
website and searching forsomething.
I already taken their faqprocess, so, having me wait
another 15 minutes and duringthe study I did a little bit
(11:04):
more research Do you realizethat 40% of people leave after
five minutes?
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Yeah, so when you're on a phone call, so they're
they're hoping you drop off andthat you're not.
Mike Gorday (11:14):
That patient and you're just going to deal with
it.
This is the.
This is the effect of applying.
This is this is technically,this is painful and human beings
beings don't like pain, so weavoid it.
Uh, so, by this is this isexactly the same thing.
Nathan Mumm (11:32):
That's being applied to streaming services,
where all the commercials we'vetalked about it yeah, uh, the
commercials that they're gonnabe talking, if we get to the
nathan that good about youtube,to house now a new premium
standard that gets that gets ridof almost all the ads.
Mike Gorday (11:48):
I really 799 youtube, youtube, but not all of
them it doesn't matter, it'sthe worst because, because it's
so irritating, uh, dealing withdealing with their interruptions
that it forces people to reallyconsider paying the money to
get rid of it.
Nathan Mumm (12:04):
It does, and it's a cash grab.
Yes.
Mike Gorday (12:06):
And I really think this is one of the things that
people should really stand upagainst.
But you know, okay.
Anyway, in a memo to staff, hpsaid the wait time for each
customer is set to 15 minutes.
Notice, the expected wait timeis mentioned only at the
beginning of the call.
It was absolutely intended totest people's patient.
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It was all about encouragingmore digital adoption by nudging
customers to go online.
And this is again.
You see that word nudge.
Yeah, this is the wrong way ofusing nudge.
Nathan Mumm (12:38):
So why don't you just say hey, if you're trying
to get done quicker, we'llanswer it as soon as possible.
You can find these available.
Instead of just making it soyou listen to music, why
wouldn't you just advertise thatin your call?
Waiting thing.
Mike Gorday (12:51):
Well, because why would you reveal that?
That's the reason.
Nathan Mumm (12:55):
Well, I mean, because if you say that two or
three times by minute seven andI quit, I may actually then, if
I hang up, go and take a look.
Well, I don't.
It's all based on cast,actually does that.
So I know which is actually.
I have used it.
Mike Gorday (13:08):
I cannot stand, okay.
So you know, I'm one of thosepeople that as the older I get,
the less time I want somethingwasted.
That that's across the board,okay.
So if I have a problem with myxfinity yeah, and I am forced to
call Xfinity by the time I getto somebody I am so angry that
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it becomes not about my problemwith Xfinity, it becomes my
problem about how Xfinityhandles my problems.
Anyway, Tech Time.
Radio asked HP for a comment,but it's probably going to take
more than 15 minutes for aresponse to Ching Ching.
Nathan Mumm (13:46):
All right Story.
Number three Get out your spaceumbrella as SpaceX rocket
explodes.
Let's talk about this.
Have you ever thought abouthaving an umbrella to protect
you from space debris?
Well, a SpaceX rocket explodedshortly after its launch from
Texas last week, groundingflights and triggering warnings
about falling space debris.
Mike Gorday (14:05):
now spacex confirmed the uncrewed ship had
suffered a rapid, unscheduleddisassembly wow, that's a
blowout, that's a euphemism,that that really puts it in
perspective suffered anexplosion during its ascent into
space and lost contact with theground.
Nathan Mumm (14:21):
a massive space x starship, the largest rocket
ever created, spun out ofcontrol shortly after its launch
.
No injuries or damage have beenreported, but images from the
Caribbean Sea Islands nationsshow fiery debris raining from
the sky.
Furry debris, furry debris.
Mike Gorday (14:41):
That was the eighth mission.
That was who was on the thingwith a bunch of furries.
Nathan Mumm (14:44):
That's right To test the rocket and consecutive
failure.
So they're 0 for 2 right now.
What happens when you go 0 for3?
You just buy yourself a newrocket.
All right, as always, successcomes from what we learn.
This is what they said, andtoday's flight will offer
additional lessons to improveStarship's reliability, said a
spokesperson at SpaceX.
(15:04):
The statement says debrisshould have fallen within a
pre-planned area and the rocketdid not contain any toxic
material.
So that's bs, so it's not toxic.
Mike Gorday (15:15):
And there's a it's probably biodegradable too.
Nathan Mumm (15:17):
I'm sure that's right, so so when do you get for
launching a rocket?
When do you get a pre-plannedarea to just dispose of your
waste?
I mean, so you can if it justblows up in a certain area
that's okay.
Mike Gorday (15:28):
Yeah, no, I mean, you can pretty much tell where
things are going to fall if youknow the projection, how many
times it's?
Nathan Mumm (15:34):
blown up before.
Okay.
The company also included anemail and phone number for those
who believe they found anyremnants of the craft.
So I guess if I I foundsomething, I can contact them
with an email and they'll comeon out with a bunch of FBI
agents.
Mike Gorday (15:48):
They'll come out and get the stuff that's
non-toxic.
That's right, okay.
Nathan Mumm (15:53):
Well, that ends our top technology stories of the
week.
Moving on, we have our gadgetsand gear, gal Gwenway on the
show up next and, of course, wehave our guest, James Riddle,
back with an update on thejourney to bring back the Willie
Mammoth.
We're listening to Tech Timewith Nathan Mumm.
See you at the commercial break.
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Nathan Mumm (17:00):
Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm.
Wow, our weekly show covers thetop technology subjects without
a political agenda.
We verify the facts and we doit with a sense of humor, in
less than 60 minutes.
And, of course, a littlewhiskey on the side.
Wow, that whiskey has got abite.
Today.
Mark Redwire, our whiskeyconnoisseur, is back and tell us
what we are drinking today.
Marc Gregoire (17:23):
Today you are drinking Smokeye Hill Barrel
Proof, so it has a kick if it'sthe first whiskey of the day.
It is.
Now from Smokeye Hill's website, straight from the barrel.
Four-grain bourbon deliversunmatched aroma and taste.
In its most unadulterated form,it is crafted with a
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Robust vanilla, caramelizedbrown sugar, honey, nougat, rich
tobacco, leather and oak.
Mike Gorday (17:52):
Yeah, it tastes like super sweet turpentine.
Nathan Mumm (17:56):
Boy, it's got a bite.
So now you said this is ourfirst whiskey of the day, it's a
bite.
So how many whiskeys have youbeen drinking today?
Is it not as big of a bite forMr Gregoire?
Marc Gregoire (18:05):
Well, no, it's my first whiskey of the day but my
palate's a little bit moreaccustomed to the higher proof
bourbons.
Okay, but it's still, I have tosip it very slowly.
The first few sips.
Mike Gorday (18:17):
Is this a high corn ?
Well, let's talk about that.
Marc Gregoire (18:20):
All right this is a hazelwood spirits company.
Um, it's distilled.
It's actually distilled frommgp, but it's barreled in
colorado springs.
Colorado, it is straightbourbon.
Five plus years.
It's 134.2 proof.
They have different batches.
Wow, this particular batch is.
Mike Gorday (18:39):
I think this is one of the highest proof whiskeys
we've had on.
Marc Gregoire (18:42):
It's pretty close the highest we've ever had was
138 or 139.
Okay, wow.
And then the mash bill.
It's an unknown mash bill.
In terms of the percentages,mike's, I can't answer that, but
I can tell you what the fourgrains are in there.
Okay, it's blue corn, yellowcorn, rye and malted barley blue
(19:02):
corn corn.
Nathan Mumm (19:03):
Is there a different taste from blue?
Marc Gregoire (19:04):
corn yes, there is.
Nathan Mumm (19:05):
Okay, okay.
Marc Gregoire (19:07):
And it goes for $90 a bottle.
All right, it's got a bite.
Now don't forget to like andsubscribe.
In addition, please comment,let us know if you have a
whiskey you want us to review.
Drink responsibly, becauseheaven can wait, that's right,
all right.
Nathan Mumm (19:29):
Well, with our whiskey tasting completed, let's
move on to our feature segment.
Today we got gwen way joiningthe show.
She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a
game board.
Wow, that is a lot of proofgame board geek in the evenings,
as well as a producer of techtime, radio and our gadgets and
gear.
Gal.
Let's get ready to bring her upon our comcast video stream to
start our next segment what'snew in our gadgets and gear.
All right, gwen, let me tellyou Woo-wee, be careful driving
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with this whiskey.
Gwen Way (19:51):
Anything that gets that much of a reaction off the
first sip Wow.
Nathan Mumm (19:55):
Well, it's 160 proof, right.
Mike Gorday (19:57):
No, what does it say?
It's 134.
Nathan Mumm (20:00):
134.
Sorry, 134.
Well, it could be.
Yeah, You're not buzzing yetbuddy, I'm not buzzing, yet I
will be Unless you werepartaking before.
Mike Gorday (20:08):
Until we get to James.
Speaker 9 (20:09):
I'll be like, hey, how are you doing, james?
Nathan Mumm (20:12):
All right, gwen, we always love having you on the
show.
Now tell us a little bit aboutyourself for any of our new
listeners.
Tell us what you do in your dayjob and what you're doing for
us today.
Gwen Way (20:23):
Certainly, certainly.
I've got about a quartercentury of technical experience
at this point and have dug intocybersecurity.
It's fascinating, it's toughand it's super important.
So anybody out there whodoesn't care about it, maybe you
should start.
That's right.
Absolutely Cybersecurity.
You know what?
We need to be a little bit moreaggressive.
Nathan Mumm (20:43):
I don't know why we're not aggressive against
Russia out there.
Who doesn't care about it?
Uh, maybe you should start.
That's right absolute cybersecurity.
You know what?
And we need to be a little bitmore aggressive.
I don't know why we're notaggressive against russia right
now, but that was another wholesegment, all right, so tell us,
gwen, you have a new gadget forus.
What do you have for thelisteners today?
Gwen Way (20:57):
Well, you know, a couple months back we did a
translator app that you couldget that would allow you to
download translations and talkon the fly, on the go.
I've got something like thatthat also gives a little bit of
added benefit.
Okay, so this gadget is calledthe Monoise pg3 or pg2, excuse
(21:22):
me.
It's available on kickstarterand it's a combination of a
headset, so earphones that alsoconnect to an app on your phone
to allow for some translation soit would translate directly
into your ear all right, so itgoes.
Nathan Mumm (21:38):
Oh, your cat's joining us.
She is there, you go okay, so,so, so it's called it's m-o-n,
so o-i-s-e, so mo, m-o.
Noise is what I.
I kind of got it taken care of,so explain us this translation
aspect of it.
So there are regular earbudsfirst off, right?
So there are okay.
Gwen Way (22:00):
You can connect to your iPad, you can listen to
movies on an airplane any of thenormal things.
(22:26):
What?
This does, is it combines?
Nathan Mumm (22:28):
all of that functionality with an
application on your phone thatuses chat GPT to translate and
also record, so you can save.
Okay, we like that.
Thank goodness they mostly knowEnglish, but there were a
couple of times when we went offthe beaten path and in some of
the smaller cities and we wouldgo to a restaurant and we really
couldn't translate.
So we had to type ininformation into Google
Translate and then we had toshow them what it was and then
they would talk back and thenTranslate didn't work very well.
(22:50):
This has the opportunity to dowhat uniquely on translations?
Gwen Way (22:56):
This is actually really cool because you can
split the headset, you can haveone earpiece in your ear, you
can hand it to somebody else andthen they're actually going to
hear what you're saying in theirlanguage.
And you'll hear what they'resaying in your language In real
time.
Nathan Mumm (23:13):
In real time In real time.
So if I'm having a conversationwith somebody now, I guess the
only barrier is having to getthat person to put the earpiece
in their ear convince them toput it in yeah, so that would be
the the biggest part of.
You know, that's a little gross, that's what I know.
I kind of think that's a littlebarrier of entry.
Right, there is is a here yougo, put this in your ear after
you just kind of a litmus test?
(23:36):
yeah don't ignore that littleyellow wax build up there, it's
no big deal, just put it intoyour ear.
But let's say you pulled it outgenerically from the device.
I think it'd probably workreally well, right?
And you say here you go, putone, one piece in the other
piece in, and then we just havea regular conversation in
english and it's translating itto them in the earpiece itself
(23:56):
correct, and and I mean they'vegot a deal where you can buy two
of them so you could keep onefor, you know, use just working
with somebody else and use theother for the rest of your
normal use, ah, okay.
Well, let's talk about pricingand let's talk about backers,
right?
So that's the next thing.
So great, great technology.
I would probably myself beinterested in this, especially
(24:19):
with that trip that we just didto Japan.
This would have been nice,especially if you could have had
some conversations on thetrains and community
transportation, which isphenomenal over there.
Now you can kind of find outwhat's going on.
So tell us what the prices is,where the backers are, where
this is from Hopefully it's areliable.
I've backed one of theseprojects still and I'm still
(24:40):
waiting to hear from them, sowe'll see what happens.
What do we got here?
Gwen Way (24:43):
Some of them.
Well, it's definitely a UnitedStates-based product, so you've
got that in your pocket.
They're sitting at just over260 backers.
We still have until March 27th,so if any of our listeners want
to purchase this, they can goout and grab it.
They're sitting at right around$26,000 earned of $2,000
(25:09):
requested and to this point, youcan still get one of the super
early bird specials and pick upa pair of these for $99.
Nathan Mumm (25:19):
That's not bad for a headset the 99 bucks on a
price that you have there.
So the next question of course,comes that we ask you all the
time Is this something thatyou're looking to back yourself?
Gwen Way (25:33):
I may already have backed it.
Nathan Mumm (25:34):
Did you already back it?
Okay, I did I did.
Gwen Way (25:37):
This is something you know.
My husband and I like to travel.
This just makes sense as a wayto do that and be able to
understand what's happeningaround us.
Nathan Mumm (25:46):
All right, mike, would you get a pair of these
headsets if you're traveling?
Mike Gorday (25:49):
No, no, okay.
Nathan Mumm (25:51):
Is the barrier of entry for you.
Would it be the sharing of theearpiece?
No, I be the sharing of theearpiece.
Uh, no, I just don't trust chatgpt to translate everything
that I'm saying.
That makes sense, you know.
You know we're getting close toa universal, a universal
communicator from star trek.
You know that, yeah I'm realsure I was all of a sudden.
(26:12):
You just put on a little pinand you're gonna hear it one way
and what happens?
Mike Gorday (26:16):
what happens when it can't understand local
dialects?
What happens then?
Nathan Mumm (26:21):
How many languages does it say you support Gwen.
How many does it have?
Mike Gorday (26:25):
Over a hundred Over a hundred languages, but those
are base languages, they're notdialectical.
You're right, true.
Nathan Mumm (26:32):
So if I go into the interior of Japan, like Bohunk
over here, or even Louisiana, oreven Louisiana, the interior of
japan, like like uh bohunk overhere.
Or even louisiana, or evenlouisiana.
Mike Gorday (26:45):
Yeah, yeah, from english to english.
You may struggle, you may, youmay end up, you may end up using
words that even the chat gptdoesn't know, so it might spit
out translations that are arefunny or not very funny.
Nathan Mumm (26:56):
Yeah, well, at least least it's using ChatGPT
instead of DeepSeek, because ifit was DeepSeek, you can have
everything.
All of a sudden.
You'd have a communication andthe thing you'd be saying China
is the best out of whateverthing that you do.
Mike Gorday (27:06):
Well, you know, this is actually one of the ways
that I can get on board.
The AI train is with this typeof stuff, but until it's tested
enough to work well in all thesesituations, it's still a
problem for me.
Nathan Mumm (27:26):
Now I'm just reviewing this.
I guess I was dogging onDeepSeek, but I guess it also
works on DeepSeek R1.
Gwen Way (27:34):
It can use.
Nathan Mumm (27:35):
So I guess if you want to have the Chinese
filtered AI stuff, you could putit in there too.
Mike Gorday (27:39):
Well then it's going to just run around saying
I'm sorry, I don't have theability to talk about that.
That's right, it's like where'sthe bathroom?
Gwen Way (27:47):
I'm sorry, just ask me about Chinese history, you'll
be okay, where's the bathroom?
Mike Gorday (27:50):
I'm sorry.
Marc Gregoire (27:57):
I don't know where.
They wouldn't come with onecompanion over-the-ear speaker
microphone to hand out, which isa lot of people.
Would be much easier to handthat to them.
I'm not going to hand an earbudto a stranger.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
You're not thinking about the portability of it.
Marc Gregoire (28:13):
You can have these tiny little ones.
Mike Gorday (28:16):
You can get really handy alcohol wipes to hand out
with it exactly.
Marc Gregoire (28:22):
I don't want to waste my alcohol mike?
Mike Gorday (28:24):
oh, that's right.
Well, you're not supposed to besucking on those whiskey.
That's right all right, butthat that does bring up an
option you know what you knowwhat gpt didn't come up with.
Nathan Mumm (28:36):
That, that's right you know, we need to come up
with our, our own tech timeversion of this, because I
totally agree, I think theearbud part is the limit of
having that to give to somebody,even if it was coming out of
the container and I say, hereyou go, put it on your ear.
But if you had in a way thatyou could put like one of the
like the jaw, what do you?
(28:56):
want Like sophomoric andchildish ways of of dealing with
things.
They have those jaw speakersyou kind of just put on the
outside and you can still hearit through your bone density.
Now, if you had something likethat where you could just kind
of put it around, but I guessnot portable.
Marc Gregoire (29:10):
So I guess you know what we're trying to just
to solve a uh yeah, I'm excited,I'm like mike, I'm a hesitant
now, but I'm really lookingforward to these as they develop
, because it's not just forpersonal use, for traveling for
vacation.
This is a strong.
Companies can use this forbusinesses.
Mike Gorday (29:26):
It would be great for businesses.
We're actually having a and youcould watch foreign movies
without the subtitles.
Nathan Mumm (29:32):
I have a doubt about that.
That actually is worth it rightthere.
I hate reading movies, so if Icould actually listen to it.
Mike Gorday (29:39):
Somehow I find it difficult to believe that you
actually watch foreign movies.
Wow, you know most foreignmovies you can go.
Gwen Way (29:45):
We just have sold Nathan on it Most foreign movies
.
Marc Gregoire (29:47):
You can go and they have a different English
track that you can turn on oh,do you really?
Mike Gorday (29:51):
Yeah, they could dub them.
Marc Gregoire (29:53):
But businesses are looking at we're looking
into it at our business for ourplant floors.
But businesses are looking atwe're looking into it at our
business for our plant floors?
Yeah, Because we have a lot ofdifferent.
Nathan Mumm (30:01):
Like Hispanic, spanish.
Marc Gregoire (30:01):
Vietnamese.
There's a lot of differenteclectic people and so Eclectic
people, not eclectic people.
Nathan Mumm (30:10):
No Diversity, you're very diversified.
There you go, thank you.
Mike Gorday (30:13):
Okay, and that's why we needed to understand what
we're talking about.
Yeah, Exactly.
Okay.
Gwen Way (30:20):
Will it translate for ourselves I?
Mike Gorday (30:22):
don't think it translates stupid.
Wow, okay, all right.
Nathan Mumm (30:28):
Well, all right.
Gwen, where can people find outmore information about you?
If they wanted to find youonline, when could they go?
Gwen Way (30:35):
You know, linkedin is going to always be the best
place to track me down.
Or, if you want to and areinterested in all of the hosts
here at tech time radio, go toour facebook page that's right.
Nathan Mumm (30:48):
Or you can join even our tech timers facebook
group right, and you're incharge of that.
So if you want to talk withgwen directly, you can just get
on that and be ready to go.
All right, gwen, we thank youso much for being a part of the
show.
We'll see you in a month.
Gwen Way (31:00):
Sounds good.
Thank you all.
Nathan Mumm (31:01):
All right, now that ends our segment Gadgets and
Gear Up.
Next, we have this Week inTechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so during thebreak.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
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Speaker 1 (32:22):
And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (32:27):
All right, we're going back to March 15th 1995.
Kevin Metnick, the hacker, wasarrested.
Oh, you have a little pin infront of you there, odie.
It says free Kevin.
You're going to understand whatthe story is about.
So, computer hacker KevinMetnick was arrested.
At the time he was the mostwanted computer criminal in the
United States.
He then worked as a computersecurity consultant of Metnick
(32:52):
Security Consulting LLC, acomputer security consultancy,
which is also known to be partof a company called KnowBe4, a
provider of integrated platformand security awareness training
and simulated phishing tests.
He sadly passed away on July 16, 2023 from cancer.
Now, interesting point here, alittle bit off the script that I
(33:12):
have here, is there's manydebate.
There was a whole campaign whenKevin was in prison.
It was called Free Kevin and itwas a bunch of people that were
saying that computer hackersshouldn't be hold to the same
standard as some of the securityprocesses were for enemy of the
state and other aspects ofhacking.
(33:33):
Kevin Metnick is known as thegodfather or the main person of
hacking in the 80s and 90s.
But my question for everybodythat's listening today is the
computer hacker that gets caughtas good as the computer hacker
(33:54):
that does not get caught.
Hacker that does not get caught.
So that's been an ongoingconversation on the dark web and
other places where KevinMetnick is known as kind of the
big name that was arrested andhe was this great hacker.
But if you get caught, doesthat mean you're as good as
somebody else or does that meanthat you didn't completely have
your tracks covered?
So just think about that.
(34:15):
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Speaker 1 (35:18):
The segment we've been waiting all week for mark's
whiskey mumble I have a bone topick with you.
Nathan Mumm (35:30):
All right, last year or last week's um uh day,
uh, the grammar day I I got alot of ribbon online for that.
So let me just tell you, we'retrying to be really positive now
, so hopefully we're not doingan additional ribbon.
Mike Gorday (35:46):
I'm positive that you don't grammar well.
Marc Gregoire (35:49):
So March 11th, I am positive you have never
celebrated this day.
Okay, what is this NationalOrganize your Home Office Day?
Mike Gorday (36:00):
Oh, wow.
Nathan Mumm (36:01):
Wow, wow, wow.
Oh, look at that, is it?
Speaker 9 (36:05):
true.
Look around, well, you know,his whiskey thing looks pretty
organized, yeah, but he didn'tdo that?
Mike Gorday (36:13):
Oh, that's right.
Marc Gregoire (36:14):
That's also not a home office thing.
Your wife organized the bar sheprobably did Yep.
Mike Gorday (36:22):
She probably did.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
She did, she did.
Marc Gregoire (36:24):
Now, just so you know what this day is about,
since you have no clue on it.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Nathan Okay Wow.
Marc Gregoire (36:29):
This is a day to clean up the mess that's
accumulated in your home officesand to establish a productivity
and healthy working environmentat home.
If establish a productivity andhealthy working environment at
home.
If you've been putting offorganizing your files and
clearing that tiny area whereyou work every day, now is the
time to do it, nathan.
Mike Gorday (36:46):
You know that's a little wrong-sided there, buddy.
Nathan Mumm (36:49):
Thank you, Mike.
You're defending me.
I haven't had this happen in awhile.
I appreciate that yeah.
Mike Gorday (36:54):
I'm on board with that, because I have a
disorganized area.
Okay, if my area is tooorganized, it freaks me out.
I have to have a disorganizedarea in order for me to work.
Marc Gregoire (37:04):
Sounds like you need some counseling, mike no,
that's not how it works allright, okay, tell us about the
whiskey different way oforganizing, that's right.
well, let me tell you about somepeople that are highly
organized.
All right, arizona's legendarySmoke Hill area Okay, during the
era of American Prohibition,smoke Eye Hill and its
surrounding emerged as asecluded haven for bootleggers.
(37:26):
Here they crafted and distilledtheir illicit spirits,
attracting a clientele thatextended to the glamour of
Hollywood.
Legend has it that aProhibition agent with ties to
the area would discreetly tipoff the community about their
arrival.
In response, the moonshiners ofSmoke Eye Hill and the
surrounding areas hung bells onthe necks of roaming mules as a
(37:46):
way to warn of lawmen roundingthe bend.
Oh, okay.
Nathan Mumm (37:51):
So the mule would run and then the bell would go
off.
Marc Gregoire (37:53):
Yeah, exactly so when they heard the bell going
off, they knew the law was close.
Okay, okay, that's cool, it'spretty organized, yeah, now this
bottle that we are drinkingtoday has become known to the
whiskey community when it camein first place at an award event
, and that same event was GeorgeT Stagg, a highly prized and
allocated bottle from BuffaloTrace.
(38:14):
Because of this Smoke Eye hasbecome known as the Stag Killer.
Let me tell you here and now itis not Okay.
It doesn't even beat out StagJunior, which is now just called
Stag, which is the baby bottleto George T Stag.
Now don't get me wrong this isa decent pour of whiskey.
However, for the price, Ishould not be getting a hit of
(38:37):
ethanol or as said turpentineand grain, I get a little green
which I think comes from thatblue corn.
Is that what, the blue corn?
Nathan Mumm (38:42):
tastes, because I haven't heard, I haven't tasted
that necessarily before.
Marc Gregoire (38:45):
Very often yeah, it's also only five years
roughly.
It needs more time too to ageout some of that grain.
Now, when this bottle is done,that's it for me.
You know, unless they come outwith some higher aged, I would
give it another try.
Try, but it's good.
But for 90 bucks.
Nathan Mumm (38:59):
I've had way better for 50 and 49 and in in other
areas, but I don't know.
I I I'm on the fence of it's athumbs down.
I think I'm probably going totrend a little bit down, but
we'll see what happens.
Marc Gregoire (39:12):
Like that'd be tough for me.
I don't know if I'd actuallygive it a thumbs down personally
.
I just know for the price and Ican usually pick up a regular
stag for a little bit less.
Okay, Well, okay.
Nathan Mumm (39:24):
Would you drink this on a porch in the middle of
the summertime, mr Gorday?
Yeah, okay, all right.
Okay, there you go, all right.
Well, whiskey and technology agreat pairing, just like James
Riddle and our technologyupdates in the medical field.
Now we're going to move on toour next segment.
Speaker 9 (39:40):
You like that?
Nathan Mumm (39:41):
There you go.
James has been a longtimecontributor to the program.
James is our special guest hereto talk about what's going on
in the medical research andinnovation.
He has spent the last 25 yearsworking in clinical research
fields and lends his expertiseto our audience to help break
down what's going on in theworld of research.
You can also follow him onLinkedIn.
Let's start our next segmentwith James Riddle.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts
with our tech time radio expertJames Riddle.
Nathan Mumm (40:12):
All right, james.
Welcome to our show today.
James Riddle (40:16):
Greetings, gentlemen, All right Hi.
Nathan Mumm (40:18):
James.
So let me just tell you, didyou hear that we had an Arizona
comment about the whiskey rightas we lead into our?
Are you calling us from Arizona?
Is that where you're calling infrom us?
James Riddle (40:28):
I happen to be here in the sunny desert
southwest.
Okay, it has been very nice sofar this spring, that's to be
sure.
Nathan Mumm (40:38):
Well, we go from See it's technically winter.
Mike Gorday (40:40):
See, that's.
What's nice about Arizona isthat he gets to enjoy spring
weather while we're enjoying notspring weather.
Nathan Mumm (40:47):
Yeah, we got two people here because Mike was
from Arizona.
He grew up there and raisedthere.
Mike Gorday (40:53):
So you still want to go back there?
I miss the Arizona winters.
Okay, there you go.
Nathan Mumm (40:57):
All right, well, let's move on here.
Glad to have you back on theshow.
Tell us a little bit aboutyourself for any of the new
listeners and maybe join theprogram.
James Riddle (41:05):
So I've been a longtime friend of the show,
been around doing clinical andmedical research activities for
goodness better part of aquarter century, and appreciate
being able to come on and talkabout new and innovative stuff.
Nathan Mumm (41:21):
All right, so let's go.
Story number one here.
Scientists are breeding mice ontheir journey to bring back the
mammoth.
Now we talked about this in ourjurassic park segment with
james on episode 7 or 70 airingin october 16.
So if you want to go and talkabout the first part of this, go
back and take a look on YouTubefor episode 70.
(41:42):
Now James explain to us what isgoing on with this mice in the
journey to bring back the woollymammoth.
James Riddle (41:50):
Yeah, so definitely worth going back and
listening to the prior episode.
The folks at Colossal Lab andBiosciences they've come a fair
bit along in their quest torecreate and bring back the
woolly mammoth.
Okay, the basic premise of thisis it's a little bit of
Jurassic Park, a little bit ofenvironmental recreation and the
(42:13):
like, but in essence whatthey're trying to do is they've
got some woolly mammoth DNA thatthey found laying around on the
tundra somewhere.
I don't know exactly where theygot it, but they've got enough
of it that they think they canuse genetic engineering to
recreate the woolly mammoth,bring it back, put it out on the
plains, let it roam around.
You know, maybe give us somewoolly mammoth burgers or
(42:35):
something.
I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (42:37):
All right.
So how do mice factor into this?
It was very interesting to see.
What.
Does mice have Anything to dowith a pretty small rodent
versus a large mammal?
What do we have going on here?
James Riddle (42:53):
Genes are complicated and it does take a
little bit of trial and error totinker around with the woolly
mammoth DNA to see if you'regoing to be able to create a
viable live organism.
And much like most medicalresearch, that starts off from
the lab and then before it getsto humans there's some animal
testing.
Usually it's from lab mice, andso what the folks at Colossal
(43:17):
have done here, they've takentheir genetically engineered
woolly mammoth embryos and theyhave figured out a way to gene
transfer that into a mouse, andwhat they're trying to perfect
(43:43):
is what we picked up on forpurposes of this particular
segment.
Speaker 9 (43:46):
All right, so, so so.
Nathan Mumm (43:49):
Mice are used in lots of testing.
Did they put a DNA sequenceinside the mice?
How do they make them be sofurry?
And a part of this process?
James Riddle (44:03):
Yeah, so they've spliced some of the woolly
mammoth genes into the mouse,and so the mouse is.
I guess you would call it awoolly mouth, Okay there you go.
Nathan Mumm (44:14):
It's going to be like alien.
Mike Gorday (44:15):
It's going to pop out a little tiny mammoth.
Nathan Mumm (44:18):
We're going to start selling those down at the
local pet store.
It's like a mouse with a Okay.
Never mind.
James Riddle (44:25):
You probably aren't going to see those at
your local pet store anytimesoon the folks who are
responsible in doing geneediting and creating transgenic
strains of animals.
They tend to keep those out ofthe population, so you don't get
little Stuart Littles drivingall over that's what I was
exactly thinking about?
Nathan Mumm (44:45):
All right, all right.
Our second item here fakestudies are slowing life-saving
medical research, all right.
So there's fraudsters that aregetting rich, and it looks like
crooks are not just stealingyour information through
phishing attempts, but they'renow actually penetrating the
medical field.
James, tell me a little bitabout what this article talks
(45:09):
about regarding fake papers andwhat's going on in the industry
here.
James Riddle (45:21):
Yeah.
So if you've been around in theclinical research or medical
research, even just research ingeneral, the way that you
advance your career is you getpublished right.
Some people hear the termpublish or perish.
Well, if you don't publish,there's a tendency to indeed
perish your career and you findyourself doing something else.
Mike Gorday (45:39):
If your research doesn't work quite right, yeah.
James Riddle (45:46):
So what's been going on is that, as there's
been more and more pressure todevelop new and innovative
things and the pace of researchis accelerating, not
surprisingly some people arefudging their results, and the
detection mechanism for beingable to get into a published
(46:06):
journal is that you get thejournal editors reviewing your
paper and they're supposed to beable to detect fraud or maybe
fabricated information.
Well, it's hard to detect, andthere's enough of it out there
that it does impede futureresearch, and so it also has the
(46:29):
added implication I know howmuch you all love chat GPT.
Well, if you go out to chat GPT, guess what it learns on.
Nathan Mumm (46:35):
It learns on that scientific literature.
Mike Gorday (46:37):
And if it's fake, then it's one of my biggest
problems with chat.
James Riddle (46:44):
GPT off of the scientific literature what to
say about the current state ofaffairs on some scientific
question?
And you get also this garbagethat is out there, and so there
is a and garbage begets garbage,because then of course, if you
(47:05):
want to create a new study, yougo to chat GPT or Gemini and you
ask it what's the scientificliterature say about the current
state of this and that?
And then you start to recreatethe project for something that
wasn't even right in the firstplace.
So it is a problem.
Uh, it's not unique to theresearch universe, uh, but it
does tend to creep in, uh, whenyou get into this publish or
(47:27):
perish model so are these.
Mike Gorday (47:29):
Are these papers penetrating the established and
qualified journals and researchnets?
Or is this the thing wherethey're actually publishing
through a backdoor publisher andlooking like a peer-reviewed
system?
James Riddle (47:48):
Yes to both.
Yes to both.
You're more likely to be ableto put questionable science into
journals that don't have asolid peer review.
But if you go and look at theretraction history that's in the
news article, it's tens ofthousands of papers being
(48:09):
retracted from reputablejournals.
Wow, now, it's a small fractionof the millions of papers that
get published each year, butstill it's enough that it's a
problem.
Marc Gregoire (48:22):
James.
What's the end game on that forthem Money?
James Riddle (48:26):
You mean as far as the end game for faking your?
Speaker 4 (48:30):
data is the famous eating on anything else.
James Riddle (48:33):
Right, you get done faster, you don't have to
put in the effort, you don'thave to perhaps publish results
that don't prove your hypothesis.
Marc Gregoire (48:43):
So it's more researchers and scientists
taking shortcuts, trying topromote themselves versus
something malicious likecybersecurity, it's a
degradation of the scientificmethod.
Mike Gorday (48:52):
Okay.
James Riddle (48:56):
And it's pervasive enough to get mentioned in the
news.
It's been a problem forever,but it's exacerbated by the AI
learning models, where thelearning models are learning
from things that they don't knowaren't right.
Nathan Mumm (49:07):
And see, I guess that's a huge problem.
Where a discerning scientistmight be able to detect that a
particular paper had, uh,something that might be
questionable because as youcreate a large language model
for chat, gpt, and then all of asudden you have china with deep
sea, go and steal thatinformation.
If they don't, because theydon't go back to the most
current large language model,they go to the one that they
(49:27):
published with the information.
So if they don't go back to thenewest information and you have
that language model with allthose fake papers, now you know
you may have something that willbe completely false.
That is proven in one or two orthree different versions of AI
systems that are out there.
Mike Gorday (49:44):
Yeah, but this is also compounded by the brutal,
dark side of research science.
Okay, all right, all right.
Nathan Mumm (49:53):
Okay, well, let's see, james, that we're gonna
have to be drinking even moreafter that.
All right, last question that Ihave here the uk plans for
human trials on the world's mostadvanced brain chip for anxiety
and depression.
Uh, what is this chip going todo and what's going on with this
?
This is, this is exciting.
I've been watching severanceseason two, so tell me a little
bit about what we got going onhere.
James Riddle (50:15):
Yeah, so if you're a Severance fan, this will
resonate.
Speaker 9 (50:17):
Okay.
James Riddle (50:20):
After the down article we talked about with the
fake papers, this one'sactually super cool.
And so the folks at ForestNeurotech have devised a new
type of brain implant that usestargeted ultrasound to change
your behavior and your mood, andit's being researched over in
the UK right now with theNational Health Service.
(50:41):
And unlike most of the otherneuro implants you've heard
Neuralink from Elon Musk and allthat this one doesn't have to
penetrate into your brain matterin order to work.
It sits inside the skull and ituses a brain computer interface
and what it does is it usestargeted ultrasound in various
(51:01):
parts of your brain to changeyour mood and your behavior less
invasive way to impact people'shealth rather than drugs or
surgeries or implantable brainimplants.
If you've ever been to theSeattle Science Center, I
(51:24):
suspect that many of thelisteners in the Seattle area
have.
They have this game there whereyou put on a cap and then the
person on the other side of thetable puts on a cap and you
basically think the ball acrossto the other side of the table.
That's using this basictechnology, although the folks
at forest neurotech have figuredout how to make it really small
and more, much more accurateand put it inside, in underneath
(51:48):
the skull, but not in yourbrain matter super cool all
right, oh great, that's a hugeleap in technology over musk,
yeah yeah, well, yeah, it wouldbe, because if you don't have to
go in and start attaching stuffto the skull itself and you
just put it underneath, thatwould be perfect or crash
rockets all right days are outof time.
Nathan Mumm (52:07):
Tell us how people can get in touch with you
offline after the show.
We got to have you back becausewe have one subject that we
didn't get to talk about.
That, I think, would make greatfor our next time.
James Riddle (52:16):
How can people?
Nathan Mumm (52:17):
contact you.
James Riddle (52:19):
You can connect with me on LinkedIn.
Just go look me up there.
That's where I do all of mysocial media stuff.
Nathan Mumm (52:27):
James thanks for being a part of the show.
If you want to go back and hearall about the Woolly mammoth,
you can go to episode 70, airedon october 16th 2021, and find
out what we got going on forthere.
We thank james so much yeahhe's.
Marc Gregoire (52:38):
He's one of my all-time favorite guests you
have we like james.
Nathan Mumm (52:42):
James is fantastic, so all right.
Well, now we're going to moveright now into our uh last
commercial break.
When we come on back, we haveour nathan nugget.
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Mike Bad YouTube, all right, mrGregoire, would you do that?
No, no, all right, neitherwould I.
So best of luck for your guys'non-premium ad music.
Whatever you're trying to do,all right, let's now move on to
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our pick of the day whiskeytasting.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Gregoire (54:11):
What we are sipping on today is Smokeye Hill
Barrel Proof.
It is a straight bourbon, fiveplus years.
This one, this batch, is 134.2proof.
It's a mash bill of four grains, with one of them being blue
corn, and it is $90.
Nathan Mumm (54:27):
All right, and we think the blue corn adds to that
little kind of turpentine taste, not the turpentine, more of
the grainy, the grainy sweettaste.
All right.
Well, I'm going to give it athumbs down.
Wow, you know what?
The price point.
If I throw in the price pointin there, I just think there's a
whole lot better that I'vetasted.
And I don't know if I would SeeI would have a $50 bottle of
(54:49):
something I enjoy, versus a $90bottle is something I wouldn't.
So I'm saying thumbs down.
What are you going to go with,Mr Gorday?
Marc Gregoire (54:55):
I'm going to give it a thumbs up.
Okay, I agree with both of you.
So without the price it'dprobably be a thumbs up for me,
okay, but with the price it goesthumbs down.
It goes thumbs down, all right.
Nathan Mumm (55:12):
Well, there you show, so it should be great
segments for everybody to talkabout.
Mike, we're about out of time.
We want to thank our listenersfor joining the program.
Listeners, we want to hear fromyou, so visit us at
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Now on today's show Now on today's show.
Nathan Mumm (01:50):
Welcome to Tech Time Radio, where we explore
this week's hottest tech buzz.
Now the Department of Justicemakes headlines with a major
move in the AI space andGoogle's Chrome browser.
We're going to break into thatas our main story of the day.
Gwen Way returns with a can'tmiss gadget and gear segment
while we dive into thegroundbreaking brain chip trials
in a SpaceX rocket mishap.
(02:12):
Now scientists are teasing aJurassic style comeback, hp
shakes up its policies andYouTube reveals a new
subscription tier Plus.
Of course, we have our guest,james Riddle, who joins the show
, so he's going to be addinginto more of the information on
the medical technology side.
In addition, we have ourstandard features and a possible
Nathan Nugget and, of course,our pick of the day whiskey
(02:33):
tasting.
To see if our selected whiskeypick is zero, one or two thumbs
up at the end of the show.
But now it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:48):
All right, story number one Last Friday, the US
Department of Justice abandonedits proposal to mandate the
Alphabet's Google divestmentinto artificial intelligent
firms, including a competitor toOpenAI with Anthropic let's go
to Corinne Westland for more onthis story.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Google will no longer be required to sell its
investments in artificialintelligence startups like
Anthropic as a remedy for itsmonopoly on internet search,
according to a revisedDepartment of Justice proposal.
It now notes that forcingGoogle to sell its Anthropix day
could cause unintendedconsequences in the evolving AI
space.
The DOJ is still recommendingthat Google be forced to divest
(03:32):
its Chrome browser, despite thecompany's entreaties to the new
administration for a lessaggressive stance.
Have fun with all the whiskeyon the show today.
Back to you guys in the studio.
Nathan Mumm (03:45):
All right.
The Department of Justice,along with 38 state attorney
generals, is still pursuing, ofcourse, the court order that
would require Google to divestits Chrome browser and implement
other strategies to addresswhat the judge have deemed a
monopoly in Google's enterprise.
But a Google spokesman statedthat the broad proposal goes far
beyond the court's ruling andwould negatively impact
(04:07):
consumers, the economy and, ofcourse, the national security in
the United States.
Google holds a minority stakein Anthropic that is valued at
over billions of dollars.
Losing the investment could puta disadvantage to the company
compared to OpenAI and its newpartner partner, microsoft, as
noted by Anthropic in a Februarycourt statement.
(04:28):
Now prosecutors provided newevidence since their draft
recommendations in November oflast year, indicating that
prohibiting Google from AIinvestments might lead to an
unforeseen effect in theevolving AI sector.
As mentioned in the finalproposal on Friday, they also
requested that Google notify thegovernment about any future
generative AI investments.
(04:49):
Now this significant case isamong several US antitrust
lawsuits targeting big techfirms.
Apple, meta Platforms andAmazoncom are also accused of
sustaining illegal monopolieswithin their market.
Now, since the Trump election,google has argued that the
Department of Justice approachin this case could cripple its
competitiveness in the AI space,therefore endangering America's
(05:11):
global economy and technologyleadership.
So it's very interesting.
Let's kind of talk about this alittle bit, mike.
So we have Google that was toldthat they had to break up their
Chrome browser.
Now, all of a sudden, they'resaying that they want to stay
competitive in the AI world.
Microsoft just investedmillions of dollars into the
going public stock of OpenAI andChatGPT.
(05:35):
Do you think that this reprievefor Google, allowing them to
stay competitive in the AImarket, is good for the US
economy, or what are youthinking?
Mike Gorday (05:44):
on this.
If I were an economist, I'dprobably have a good answer for
that, but I'm not Okay.
And your feeling, though?
My feeling on it is well.
We all know how I feel about AI, so I kind of like who cares,
who cares?
Nathan Mumm (06:00):
Okay, okay.
Well, we'll see what Googledoes on this.
Mike Gorday (06:04):
Now anthropic.
Now, I guess the biggestproblem here is if, if they
think that them losing theirstake in anthropic is going to
jeopardize american internalsecurity.
Uh, that raises some questionsin my brain about okay, what are
they doing?
That would jeopardize security.
Nathan Mumm (06:27):
Well, that's the T2 Skynet stuff that they're
worried about if they don't havethe market on that.
Yeah okay, whatever.
Well, it's going to beinteresting to see what happens
here, because this is kind ofthe antitrust breakup like
Microsoft had back in the early90s type of deal.
Mike Gorday (06:42):
It's evident that we have several players in this
space that have an overbalanceof whatever market they're in.
Marc Gregoire (06:56):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (06:56):
Right, yep, and we're seeing this more and more
as we have these other companiestrying to come into these
spaces and they're not beingallowed to do so.
There you go.
Nathan Mumm (07:09):
You know I can't wait for your story, story
number two.
We talked about this in ourpre-show event.
This is going to be somethingthat you are really excited
about.
Mike Gorday (07:17):
Yeah, okay, what do ?
Nathan Mumm (07:18):
we got going on Story number two here, Mike.
Mike Gorday (07:20):
Okay, did you know that HP yes, hewitt Packard,
hewitt Packard, hewitt Packardhas a 15-minute wait time policy
for people who call in forassistance?
Nathan Mumm (07:31):
Well, explain that to me.
It's a 15-minute policy.
What does that mean?
They?
Mike Gorday (07:35):
answer within 15 minutes.
That means that if you call HPor you try to contact HP and get
a live person to help you outwith you, know whatever, maybe
your printer's not working orwhatever yeah, person to help
you out with you, know, whatever, maybe your printer's not
working or whatever yeah, uh,you have to wait a mandatory
period of 15 minutes before theywill allow you to start talking
to a real person.
Nathan Mumm (07:54):
oh, my word did you know that I well, I only found
out about it when we did thestory, but I did not know that.
You know what that?
That irritates me, because youknow I I have waited on call
with companies like ringCentraland other companies and I'll
just wait and wait, and wait.
Mike Gorday (08:09):
I believe that this is a standard operating
procedure.
Okay, they do this so that thecustomer is forced to look other
places, like their FAQ pages ortheir stupid chat bot things,
which I don't know if you, youknow, if you play that game like
(08:30):
, for instance, I did this, uh,what was it?
The other day I was, I was onsomething and I tried to get on
their chat bot and, uh, it waslike not working, oh wow, and I
couldn't find any, anyalternative numbers to this.
I mean, this is one of thebiggest frustrating things.
However, hp inc last weekabruptly ditched its mandatory
(08:54):
15 minute wait time that itposes on customers dialing up as
a telephone based support teamdue to initial feedback initial
feedback, I guess.
I guess a lot of people calledHP and waited 15 minutes and
then blessed them out for havingthem wait.
Okay, this came into force forfolks phoning up to call center
(09:18):
but were soon went down like alead balloon internally at HP
when some staff on the frontline, unhappy that they were
having to deal with a decisiontaken by management who didn't
have to directly interact withcustomers, left hanging on the
telephone for 15 minutes.
Now HP has abandoned thispolicy, but it does not say if
it might return again.
(09:38):
Hp started to play a recordedmessage to punters ringing up as
call centers that warned of alonger wait time of 15 minutes
and apologized for theinconvenience which we all we
all know this, this littlemessage that comes in right yep,
we're sorry, we're experiencingmore than usual traffic.
Okay, yep, okay, uh.
(09:59):
Hp decided the twoinconvenience customers
deliberately to make them giveup and use online support, and
we talked about this.
We talked about this at ourproduction meeting.
This is one of the ways thatcompanies really manipulate the
customer by using pain pleasure.
Nathan Mumm (10:21):
Yeah, they're hoping that you leave, if you're
.
If your issue is not, yeah,they don't urgent that's right.
Mike Gorday (10:26):
They don't want you to.
They don't want you to be onthe phone, they want to.
They want you to solve yourproblem by using and and I don't
know how you feel about lookingat faqs, but I they never
answer the question that I, thatI so I, I try faq first and
then I try chatbot.
Nathan Mumm (10:43):
So if I've now gone and I and I do actually
sometimes chatbot first even,and I like the chat, even though
I know it may be an indiaperson, but I like to initiate
that way I only call if I'vealready exhausted going to their
website and searching forsomething.
I already taken their faqprocess, so, having me wait
another 15 minutes and duringthe study I did a little bit
(11:04):
more research Do you realizethat 40% of people leave after
five minutes?
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Yeah, so when you're on a phone call, so they're
they're hoping you drop off andthat you're not.
Mike Gorday (11:14):
That patient and you're just going to deal with
it.
This is the.
This is the effect of applying.
This is this is technically,this is painful and human beings
beings don't like pain, so weavoid it.
Uh, so, by this is this isexactly the same thing.
Nathan Mumm (11:32):
That's being applied to streaming services,
where all the commercials we'vetalked about it yeah, uh, the
commercials that they're gonnabe talking, if we get to the
nathan that good about youtube,to house now a new premium
standard that gets that gets ridof almost all the ads.
Mike Gorday (11:48):
I really 799 youtube, youtube, but not all of
them it doesn't matter, it'sthe worst because, because it's
so irritating, uh, dealing withdealing with their interruptions
that it forces people to reallyconsider paying the money to
get rid of it.
Nathan Mumm (12:04):
It does, and it's a cash grab.
Yes.
Mike Gorday (12:06):
And I really think this is one of the things that
people should really stand upagainst.
But you know, okay.
Anyway, in a memo to staff, hpsaid the wait time for each
customer is set to 15 minutes.
Notice, the expected wait timeis mentioned only at the
beginning of the call.
It was absolutely intended totest people's patient.
(12:26):
It was all about encouragingmore digital adoption by nudging
customers to go online.
And this is again.
You see that word nudge.
Yeah, this is the wrong way ofusing nudge.
Nathan Mumm (12:38):
So why don't you just say hey, if you're trying
to get done quicker, we'llanswer it as soon as possible.
You can find these available.
Instead of just making it soyou listen to music, why
wouldn't you just advertise thatin your call?
Waiting thing.
Mike Gorday (12:51):
Well, because why would you reveal that?
That's the reason.
Nathan Mumm (12:55):
Well, I mean, because if you say that two or
three times by minute seven andI quit, I may actually then, if
I hang up, go and take a look.
Well, I don't.
It's all based on cast,actually does that.
So I know which is actually.
I have used it.
Mike Gorday (13:08):
I cannot stand, okay.
So you know, I'm one of thosepeople that as the older I get,
the less time I want somethingwasted.
That that's across the board,okay.
So if I have a problem with myxfinity yeah, and I am forced to
call Xfinity by the time I getto somebody I am so angry that
(13:29):
it becomes not about my problemwith Xfinity, it becomes my
problem about how Xfinityhandles my problems.
Anyway, Tech Time.
Radio asked HP for a comment,but it's probably going to take
more than 15 minutes for aresponse to Ching Ching.
Nathan Mumm (13:46):
All right Story.
Number three Get out your spaceumbrella as SpaceX rocket
explodes.
Let's talk about this.
Have you ever thought abouthaving an umbrella to protect
you from space debris?
Well, a SpaceX rocket explodedshortly after its launch from
Texas last week, groundingflights and triggering warnings
about falling space debris.
Mike Gorday (14:05):
now spacex confirmed the uncrewed ship had
suffered a rapid, unscheduleddisassembly wow, that's a
blowout, that's a euphemism,that that really puts it in
perspective suffered anexplosion during its ascent into
space and lost contact with theground.
Nathan Mumm (14:21):
a massive space x starship, the largest rocket
ever created, spun out ofcontrol shortly after its launch
.
No injuries or damage have beenreported, but images from the
Caribbean Sea Islands nationsshow fiery debris raining from
the sky.
Furry debris, furry debris.
Mike Gorday (14:41):
That was the eighth mission.
That was who was on the thingwith a bunch of furries.
Nathan Mumm (14:44):
That's right To test the rocket and consecutive
failure.
So they're 0 for 2 right now.
What happens when you go 0 for3?
You just buy yourself a newrocket.
All right, as always, successcomes from what we learn.
This is what they said, andtoday's flight will offer
additional lessons to improveStarship's reliability, said a
spokesperson at SpaceX.
(15:04):
The statement says debrisshould have fallen within a
pre-planned area and the rocketdid not contain any toxic
material.
So that's bs, so it's not toxic.
Mike Gorday (15:15):
And there's a it's probably biodegradable too.
Nathan Mumm (15:17):
I'm sure that's right, so so when do you get for
launching a rocket?
When do you get a pre-plannedarea to just dispose of your
waste?
I mean, so you can if it justblows up in a certain area
that's okay.
Mike Gorday (15:28):
Yeah, no, I mean, you can pretty much tell where
things are going to fall if youknow the projection, how many
times it's?
Nathan Mumm (15:34):
blown up before.
Okay.
The company also included anemail and phone number for those
who believe they found anyremnants of the craft.
So I guess if I I foundsomething, I can contact them
with an email and they'll comeon out with a bunch of FBI
agents.
Mike Gorday (15:48):
They'll come out and get the stuff that's
non-toxic.
That's right, okay.
Nathan Mumm (15:53):
Well, that ends our top technology stories of the
week.
Moving on, we have our gadgetsand gear, gal Gwenway on the
show up next and, of course, wehave our guest, James Riddle,
back with an update on thejourney to bring back the Willie
Mammoth.
We're listening to Tech Timewith Nathan Mumm.
See you at the commercial break.
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We verify the facts and we doit with a sense of humor, in
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And, of course, a littlewhiskey on the side.
Wow, that whiskey has got abite.
Today.
Mark Redwire, our whiskeyconnoisseur, is back and tell us
what we are drinking today.
Marc Gregoire (17:23):
Today you are drinking Smokeye Hill Barrel
Proof, so it has a kick if it'sthe first whiskey of the day.
It is.
Now from Smokeye Hill's website, straight from the barrel.
Four-grain bourbon deliversunmatched aroma and taste.
In its most unadulterated form,it is crafted with a
proprietary mash, resulting in abold, full-flavored whiskey,
(17:47):
Robust vanilla, caramelizedbrown sugar, honey, nougat, rich
tobacco, leather and oak.
Mike Gorday (17:52):
Yeah, it tastes like super sweet turpentine.
Nathan Mumm (17:56):
Boy, it's got a bite.
So now you said this is ourfirst whiskey of the day, it's a
bite.
So how many whiskeys have youbeen drinking today?
Is it not as big of a bite forMr Gregoire?
Marc Gregoire (18:05):
Well, no, it's my first whiskey of the day but my
palate's a little bit moreaccustomed to the higher proof
bourbons.
Okay, but it's still, I have tosip it very slowly.
The first few sips.
Mike Gorday (18:17):
Is this a high corn ?
Well, let's talk about that.
Marc Gregoire (18:20):
All right this is a hazelwood spirits company.
Um, it's distilled.
It's actually distilled frommgp, but it's barreled in
colorado springs.
Colorado, it is straightbourbon.
Five plus years.
It's 134.2 proof.
They have different batches.
Wow, this particular batch is.
Mike Gorday (18:39):
I think this is one of the highest proof whiskeys
we've had on.
Marc Gregoire (18:42):
It's pretty close the highest we've ever had was
138 or 139.
Okay, wow.
And then the mash bill.
It's an unknown mash bill.
In terms of the percentages,mike's, I can't answer that, but
I can tell you what the fourgrains are in there.
Okay, it's blue corn, yellowcorn, rye and malted barley blue
(19:02):
corn corn.
Nathan Mumm (19:03):
Is there a different taste from blue?
Marc Gregoire (19:04):
corn yes, there is.
Nathan Mumm (19:05):
Okay, okay.
Marc Gregoire (19:07):
And it goes for $90 a bottle.
All right, it's got a bite.
Now don't forget to like andsubscribe.
In addition, please comment,let us know if you have a
whiskey you want us to review.
Drink responsibly, becauseheaven can wait, that's right,
all right.
Nathan Mumm (19:29):
Well, with our whiskey tasting completed, let's
move on to our feature segment.
Today we got gwen way joiningthe show.
She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a
game board.
Wow, that is a lot of proofgame board geek in the evenings,
as well as a producer of techtime, radio and our gadgets and
gear.
Gal.
Let's get ready to bring her upon our comcast video stream to
start our next segment what'snew in our gadgets and gear.
All right, gwen, let me tellyou Woo-wee, be careful driving
(19:49):
with this whiskey.
Gwen Way (19:51):
Anything that gets that much of a reaction off the
first sip Wow.
Nathan Mumm (19:55):
Well, it's 160 proof, right.
Mike Gorday (19:57):
No, what does it say?
It's 134.
Nathan Mumm (20:00):
134.
Sorry, 134.
Well, it could be.
Yeah, You're not buzzing yetbuddy, I'm not buzzing, yet I
will be Unless you werepartaking before.
Mike Gorday (20:08):
Until we get to James.
Speaker 9 (20:09):
I'll be like, hey, how are you doing, james?
Nathan Mumm (20:12):
All right, gwen, we always love having you on the
show.
Now tell us a little bit aboutyourself for any of our new
listeners.
Tell us what you do in your dayjob and what you're doing for
us today.
Gwen Way (20:23):
Certainly, certainly.
I've got about a quartercentury of technical experience
at this point and have dug intocybersecurity.
It's fascinating, it's toughand it's super important.
So anybody out there whodoesn't care about it, maybe you
should start.
That's right.
Absolutely Cybersecurity.
You know what?
We need to be a little bit moreaggressive.
Nathan Mumm (20:43):
I don't know why we're not aggressive against
Russia out there.
Who doesn't care about it?
Uh, maybe you should start.
That's right absolute cybersecurity.
You know what?
And we need to be a little bitmore aggressive.
I don't know why we're notaggressive against russia right
now, but that was another wholesegment, all right, so tell us,
gwen, you have a new gadget forus.
What do you have for thelisteners today?
Gwen Way (20:57):
Well, you know, a couple months back we did a
translator app that you couldget that would allow you to
download translations and talkon the fly, on the go.
I've got something like thatthat also gives a little bit of
added benefit.
Okay, so this gadget is calledthe Monoise pg3 or pg2, excuse
(21:22):
me.
It's available on kickstarterand it's a combination of a
headset, so earphones that alsoconnect to an app on your phone
to allow for some translation soit would translate directly
into your ear all right, so itgoes.
Nathan Mumm (21:38):
Oh, your cat's joining us.
She is there, you go okay, so,so, so it's called it's m-o-n,
so o-i-s-e, so mo, m-o.
Noise is what I.
I kind of got it taken care of,so explain us this translation
aspect of it.
So there are regular earbudsfirst off, right?
So there are okay.
Gwen Way (22:00):
You can connect to your iPad, you can listen to
movies on an airplane any of thenormal things.
(22:26):
What?
This does, is it combines?
Nathan Mumm (22:28):
all of that functionality with an
application on your phone thatuses chat GPT to translate and
also record, so you can save.
Okay, we like that.
Thank goodness they mostly knowEnglish, but there were a
couple of times when we went offthe beaten path and in some of
the smaller cities and we wouldgo to a restaurant and we really
couldn't translate.
So we had to type ininformation into Google
Translate and then we had toshow them what it was and then
they would talk back and thenTranslate didn't work very well.
(22:50):
This has the opportunity to dowhat uniquely on translations?
Gwen Way (22:56):
This is actually really cool because you can
split the headset, you can haveone earpiece in your ear, you
can hand it to somebody else andthen they're actually going to
hear what you're saying in theirlanguage.
And you'll hear what they'resaying in your language In real
time.
Nathan Mumm (23:13):
In real time In real time.
So if I'm having a conversationwith somebody now, I guess the
only barrier is having to getthat person to put the earpiece
in their ear convince them toput it in yeah, so that would be
the the biggest part of.
You know, that's a little gross, that's what I know.
I kind of think that's a littlebarrier of entry.
Right, there is is a here yougo, put this in your ear after
you just kind of a litmus test?
(23:36):
yeah don't ignore that littleyellow wax build up there, it's
no big deal, just put it intoyour ear.
But let's say you pulled it outgenerically from the device.
I think it'd probably workreally well, right?
And you say here you go, putone, one piece in the other
piece in, and then we just havea regular conversation in
english and it's translating itto them in the earpiece itself
(23:56):
correct, and and I mean they'vegot a deal where you can buy two
of them so you could keep onefor, you know, use just working
with somebody else and use theother for the rest of your
normal use, ah, okay.
Well, let's talk about pricingand let's talk about backers,
right?
So that's the next thing.
So great, great technology.
I would probably myself beinterested in this, especially
(24:19):
with that trip that we just didto Japan.
This would have been nice,especially if you could have had
some conversations on thetrains and community
transportation, which isphenomenal over there.
Now you can kind of find outwhat's going on.
So tell us what the prices is,where the backers are, where
this is from Hopefully it's areliable.
I've backed one of theseprojects still and I'm still
(24:40):
waiting to hear from them, sowe'll see what happens.
What do we got here?
Gwen Way (24:43):
Some of them.
Well, it's definitely a UnitedStates-based product, so you've
got that in your pocket.
They're sitting at just over260 backers.
We still have until March 27th,so if any of our listeners want
to purchase this, they can goout and grab it.
They're sitting at right around$26,000 earned of $2,000
(25:09):
requested and to this point, youcan still get one of the super
early bird specials and pick upa pair of these for $99.
Nathan Mumm (25:19):
That's not bad for a headset the 99 bucks on a
price that you have there.
So the next question of course,comes that we ask you all the
time Is this something thatyou're looking to back yourself?
Gwen Way (25:33):
I may already have backed it.
Nathan Mumm (25:34):
Did you already back it?
Okay, I did I did.
Gwen Way (25:37):
This is something you know.
My husband and I like to travel.
This just makes sense as a wayto do that and be able to
understand what's happeningaround us.
Nathan Mumm (25:46):
All right, mike, would you get a pair of these
headsets if you're traveling?
Mike Gorday (25:49):
No, no, okay.
Nathan Mumm (25:51):
Is the barrier of entry for you.
Would it be the sharing of theearpiece?
No, I be the sharing of theearpiece.
Uh, no, I just don't trust chatgpt to translate everything
that I'm saying.
That makes sense, you know.
You know we're getting close toa universal, a universal
communicator from star trek.
You know that, yeah I'm realsure I was all of a sudden.
(26:12):
You just put on a little pinand you're gonna hear it one way
and what happens?
Mike Gorday (26:16):
what happens when it can't understand local
dialects?
What happens then?
Nathan Mumm (26:21):
How many languages does it say you support Gwen.
How many does it have?
Mike Gorday (26:25):
Over a hundred Over a hundred languages, but those
are base languages, they're notdialectical.
You're right, true.
Nathan Mumm (26:32):
So if I go into the interior of Japan, like Bohunk
over here, or even Louisiana, oreven Louisiana, the interior of
japan, like like uh bohunk overhere.
Or even louisiana, or evenlouisiana.
Mike Gorday (26:45):
Yeah, yeah, from english to english.
You may struggle, you may, youmay end up, you may end up using
words that even the chat gptdoesn't know, so it might spit
out translations that are arefunny or not very funny.
Nathan Mumm (26:56):
Yeah, well, at least least it's using ChatGPT
instead of DeepSeek, because ifit was DeepSeek, you can have
everything.
All of a sudden.
You'd have a communication andthe thing you'd be saying China
is the best out of whateverthing that you do.
Mike Gorday (27:06):
Well, you know, this is actually one of the ways
that I can get on board.
The AI train is with this typeof stuff, but until it's tested
enough to work well in all thesesituations, it's still a
problem for me.
Nathan Mumm (27:26):
Now I'm just reviewing this.
I guess I was dogging onDeepSeek, but I guess it also
works on DeepSeek R1.
Gwen Way (27:34):
It can use.
Nathan Mumm (27:35):
So I guess if you want to have the Chinese
filtered AI stuff, you could putit in there too.
Mike Gorday (27:39):
Well then it's going to just run around saying
I'm sorry, I don't have theability to talk about that.
That's right, it's like where'sthe bathroom?
Gwen Way (27:47):
I'm sorry, just ask me about Chinese history, you'll
be okay, where's the bathroom?
Mike Gorday (27:50):
I'm sorry.
Marc Gregoire (27:57):
I don't know where.
They wouldn't come with onecompanion over-the-ear speaker
microphone to hand out, which isa lot of people.
Would be much easier to handthat to them.
I'm not going to hand an earbudto a stranger.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
You're not thinking about the portability of it.
Marc Gregoire (28:13):
You can have these tiny little ones.
Mike Gorday (28:16):
You can get really handy alcohol wipes to hand out
with it exactly.
Marc Gregoire (28:22):
I don't want to waste my alcohol mike?
Mike Gorday (28:24):
oh, that's right.
Well, you're not supposed to besucking on those whiskey.
That's right all right, butthat that does bring up an
option you know what you knowwhat gpt didn't come up with.
Nathan Mumm (28:36):
That, that's right you know, we need to come up
with our, our own tech timeversion of this, because I
totally agree, I think theearbud part is the limit of
having that to give to somebody,even if it was coming out of
the container and I say, hereyou go, put it on your ear.
But if you had in a way thatyou could put like one of the
like the jaw, what do you?
(28:56):
want Like sophomoric andchildish ways of of dealing with
things.
They have those jaw speakersyou kind of just put on the
outside and you can still hearit through your bone density.
Now, if you had something likethat where you could just kind
of put it around, but I guessnot portable.
Marc Gregoire (29:10):
So I guess you know what we're trying to just
to solve a uh yeah, I'm excited,I'm like mike, I'm a hesitant
now, but I'm really lookingforward to these as they develop
, because it's not just forpersonal use, for traveling for
vacation.
This is a strong.
Companies can use this forbusinesses.
Mike Gorday (29:26):
It would be great for businesses.
We're actually having a and youcould watch foreign movies
without the subtitles.
Nathan Mumm (29:32):
I have a doubt about that.
That actually is worth it rightthere.
I hate reading movies, so if Icould actually listen to it.
Mike Gorday (29:39):
Somehow I find it difficult to believe that you
actually watch foreign movies.
Wow, you know most foreignmovies you can go.
Gwen Way (29:45):
We just have sold Nathan on it Most foreign movies
.
Marc Gregoire (29:47):
You can go and they have a different English
track that you can turn on oh,do you really?
Mike Gorday (29:51):
Yeah, they could dub them.
Marc Gregoire (29:53):
But businesses are looking at we're looking
into it at our business for ourplant floors.
But businesses are looking atwe're looking into it at our
business for our plant floors?
Yeah, Because we have a lot ofdifferent.
Nathan Mumm (30:01):
Like Hispanic, spanish.
Marc Gregoire (30:01):
Vietnamese.
There's a lot of differenteclectic people and so Eclectic
people, not eclectic people.
Nathan Mumm (30:10):
No Diversity, you're very diversified.
There you go, thank you.
Mike Gorday (30:13):
Okay, and that's why we needed to understand what
we're talking about.
Yeah, Exactly.
Okay.
Gwen Way (30:20):
Will it translate for ourselves I?
Mike Gorday (30:22):
don't think it translates stupid.
Wow, okay, all right.
Nathan Mumm (30:28):
Well, all right.
Gwen, where can people find outmore information about you?
If they wanted to find youonline, when could they go?
Gwen Way (30:35):
You know, linkedin is going to always be the best
place to track me down.
Or, if you want to and areinterested in all of the hosts
here at tech time radio, go toour facebook page that's right.
Nathan Mumm (30:48):
Or you can join even our tech timers facebook
group right, and you're incharge of that.
So if you want to talk withgwen directly, you can just get
on that and be ready to go.
All right, gwen, we thank youso much for being a part of the
show.
We'll see you in a month.
Gwen Way (31:00):
Sounds good.
Thank you all.
Nathan Mumm (31:01):
All right, now that ends our segment Gadgets and
Gear Up.
Next, we have this Week inTechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so during thebreak.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
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And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (32:27):
All right, we're going back to March 15th 1995.
Kevin Metnick, the hacker, wasarrested.
Oh, you have a little pin infront of you there, odie.
It says free Kevin.
You're going to understand whatthe story is about.
So, computer hacker KevinMetnick was arrested.
At the time he was the mostwanted computer criminal in the
United States.
He then worked as a computersecurity consultant of Metnick
(32:52):
Security Consulting LLC, acomputer security consultancy,
which is also known to be partof a company called KnowBe4, a
provider of integrated platformand security awareness training
and simulated phishing tests.
He sadly passed away on July 16, 2023 from cancer.
Now, interesting point here, alittle bit off the script that I
(33:12):
have here, is there's manydebate.
There was a whole campaign whenKevin was in prison.
It was called Free Kevin and itwas a bunch of people that were
saying that computer hackersshouldn't be hold to the same
standard as some of the securityprocesses were for enemy of the
state and other aspects ofhacking.
(33:33):
Kevin Metnick is known as thegodfather or the main person of
hacking in the 80s and 90s.
But my question for everybodythat's listening today is the
computer hacker that gets caughtas good as the computer hacker
(33:54):
that does not get caught.
Hacker that does not get caught.
So that's been an ongoingconversation on the dark web and
other places where KevinMetnick is known as kind of the
big name that was arrested andhe was this great hacker.
But if you get caught, doesthat mean you're as good as
somebody else or does that meanthat you didn't completely have
your tracks covered?
So just think about that.
(34:15):
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Speaker 1 (35:18):
The segment we've been waiting all week for mark's
whiskey mumble I have a bone topick with you.
Nathan Mumm (35:30):
All right, last year or last week's um uh day,
uh, the grammar day I I got alot of ribbon online for that.
So let me just tell you, we'retrying to be really positive now
, so hopefully we're not doingan additional ribbon.
Mike Gorday (35:46):
I'm positive that you don't grammar well.
Marc Gregoire (35:49):
So March 11th, I am positive you have never
celebrated this day.
Okay, what is this NationalOrganize your Home Office Day?
Mike Gorday (36:00):
Oh, wow.
Nathan Mumm (36:01):
Wow, wow, wow.
Oh, look at that, is it?
Speaker 9 (36:05):
true.
Look around, well, you know,his whiskey thing looks pretty
organized, yeah, but he didn'tdo that?
Mike Gorday (36:13):
Oh, that's right.
Marc Gregoire (36:14):
That's also not a home office thing.
Your wife organized the bar sheprobably did Yep.
Mike Gorday (36:22):
She probably did.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
She did, she did.
Marc Gregoire (36:24):
Now, just so you know what this day is about,
since you have no clue on it.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Nathan Okay Wow.
Marc Gregoire (36:29):
This is a day to clean up the mess that's
accumulated in your home officesand to establish a productivity
and healthy working environmentat home.
If establish a productivity andhealthy working environment at
home.
If you've been putting offorganizing your files and
clearing that tiny area whereyou work every day, now is the
time to do it, nathan.
Mike Gorday (36:46):
You know that's a little wrong-sided there, buddy.
Nathan Mumm (36:49):
Thank you, Mike.
You're defending me.
I haven't had this happen in awhile.
I appreciate that yeah.
Mike Gorday (36:54):
I'm on board with that, because I have a
disorganized area.
Okay, if my area is tooorganized, it freaks me out.
I have to have a disorganizedarea in order for me to work.
Marc Gregoire (37:04):
Sounds like you need some counseling, mike no,
that's not how it works allright, okay, tell us about the
whiskey different way oforganizing, that's right.
well, let me tell you about somepeople that are highly
organized.
All right, arizona's legendarySmoke Hill area Okay, during the
era of American Prohibition,smoke Eye Hill and its
surrounding emerged as asecluded haven for bootleggers.
(37:26):
Here they crafted and distilledtheir illicit spirits,
attracting a clientele thatextended to the glamour of
Hollywood.
Legend has it that aProhibition agent with ties to
the area would discreetly tipoff the community about their
arrival.
In response, the moonshiners ofSmoke Eye Hill and the
surrounding areas hung bells onthe necks of roaming mules as a
(37:46):
way to warn of lawmen roundingthe bend.
Oh, okay.
Nathan Mumm (37:51):
So the mule would run and then the bell would go
off.
Marc Gregoire (37:53):
Yeah, exactly so when they heard the bell going
off, they knew the law was close.
Okay, okay, that's cool, it'spretty organized, yeah, now this
bottle that we are drinkingtoday has become known to the
whiskey community when it camein first place at an award event
, and that same event was GeorgeT Stagg, a highly prized and
allocated bottle from BuffaloTrace.
(38:14):
Because of this Smoke Eye hasbecome known as the Stag Killer.
Let me tell you here and now itis not Okay.
It doesn't even beat out StagJunior, which is now just called
Stag, which is the baby bottleto George T Stag.
Now don't get me wrong this isa decent pour of whiskey.
However, for the price, Ishould not be getting a hit of
(38:37):
ethanol or as said turpentineand grain, I get a little green
which I think comes from thatblue corn.
Is that what, the blue corn?
Nathan Mumm (38:42):
tastes, because I haven't heard, I haven't tasted
that necessarily before.
Marc Gregoire (38:45):
Very often yeah, it's also only five years
roughly.
It needs more time too to ageout some of that grain.
Now, when this bottle is done,that's it for me.
You know, unless they come outwith some higher aged, I would
give it another try.
Try, but it's good.
But for 90 bucks.
Nathan Mumm (38:59):
I've had way better for 50 and 49 and in in other
areas, but I don't know.
I I I'm on the fence of it's athumbs down.
I think I'm probably going totrend a little bit down, but
we'll see what happens.
Marc Gregoire (39:12):
Like that'd be tough for me.
I don't know if I'd actuallygive it a thumbs down personally
.
I just know for the price and Ican usually pick up a regular
stag for a little bit less.
Okay, Well, okay.
Nathan Mumm (39:24):
Would you drink this on a porch in the middle of
the summertime, mr Gorday?
Yeah, okay, all right.
Okay, there you go, all right.
Well, whiskey and technology agreat pairing, just like James
Riddle and our technologyupdates in the medical field.
Now we're going to move on toour next segment.
Speaker 9 (39:40):
You like that?
Nathan Mumm (39:41):
There you go.
James has been a longtimecontributor to the program.
James is our special guest hereto talk about what's going on
in the medical research andinnovation.
He has spent the last 25 yearsworking in clinical research
fields and lends his expertiseto our audience to help break
down what's going on in theworld of research.
You can also follow him onLinkedIn.
Let's start our next segmentwith James Riddle.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts
with our tech time radio expertJames Riddle.
Nathan Mumm (40:12):
All right, james.
Welcome to our show today.
James Riddle (40:16):
Greetings, gentlemen, All right Hi.
Nathan Mumm (40:18):
James.
So let me just tell you, didyou hear that we had an Arizona
comment about the whiskey rightas we lead into our?
Are you calling us from Arizona?
Is that where you're calling infrom us?
James Riddle (40:28):
I happen to be here in the sunny desert
southwest.
Okay, it has been very nice sofar this spring, that's to be
sure.
Nathan Mumm (40:38):
Well, we go from See it's technically winter.
Mike Gorday (40:40):
See, that's.
What's nice about Arizona isthat he gets to enjoy spring
weather while we're enjoying notspring weather.
Nathan Mumm (40:47):
Yeah, we got two people here because Mike was
from Arizona.
He grew up there and raisedthere.
Mike Gorday (40:53):
So you still want to go back there?
I miss the Arizona winters.
Okay, there you go.
Nathan Mumm (40:57):
All right, well, let's move on here.
Glad to have you back on theshow.
Tell us a little bit aboutyourself for any of the new
listeners and maybe join theprogram.
James Riddle (41:05):
So I've been a longtime friend of the show,
been around doing clinical andmedical research activities for
goodness better part of aquarter century, and appreciate
being able to come on and talkabout new and innovative stuff.
Nathan Mumm (41:21):
All right, so let's go.
Story number one here.
Scientists are breeding mice ontheir journey to bring back the
mammoth.
Now we talked about this in ourjurassic park segment with
james on episode 7 or 70 airingin october 16.
So if you want to go and talkabout the first part of this, go
back and take a look on YouTubefor episode 70.
(41:42):
Now James explain to us what isgoing on with this mice in the
journey to bring back the woollymammoth.
James Riddle (41:50):
Yeah, so definitely worth going back and
listening to the prior episode.
The folks at Colossal Lab andBiosciences they've come a fair
bit along in their quest torecreate and bring back the
woolly mammoth.
Okay, the basic premise of thisis it's a little bit of
Jurassic Park, a little bit ofenvironmental recreation and the
(42:13):
like, but in essence whatthey're trying to do is they've
got some woolly mammoth DNA thatthey found laying around on the
tundra somewhere.
I don't know exactly where theygot it, but they've got enough
of it that they think they canuse genetic engineering to
recreate the woolly mammoth,bring it back, put it out on the
plains, let it roam around.
You know, maybe give us somewoolly mammoth burgers or
(42:35):
something.
I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (42:37):
All right.
So how do mice factor into this?
It was very interesting to see.
What.
Does mice have Anything to dowith a pretty small rodent
versus a large mammal?
What do we have going on here?
James Riddle (42:53):
Genes are complicated and it does take a
little bit of trial and error totinker around with the woolly
mammoth DNA to see if you'regoing to be able to create a
viable live organism.
And much like most medicalresearch, that starts off from
the lab and then before it getsto humans there's some animal
testing.
Usually it's from lab mice, andso what the folks at Colossal
(43:17):
have done here, they've takentheir genetically engineered
woolly mammoth embryos and theyhave figured out a way to gene
transfer that into a mouse, andwhat they're trying to perfect
(43:43):
is what we picked up on forpurposes of this particular
segment.
Speaker 9 (43:46):
All right, so, so so.
Nathan Mumm (43:49):
Mice are used in lots of testing.
Did they put a DNA sequenceinside the mice?
How do they make them be sofurry?
And a part of this process?
James Riddle (44:03):
Yeah, so they've spliced some of the woolly
mammoth genes into the mouse,and so the mouse is.
I guess you would call it awoolly mouth, Okay there you go.
Nathan Mumm (44:14):
It's going to be like alien.
Mike Gorday (44:15):
It's going to pop out a little tiny mammoth.
Nathan Mumm (44:18):
We're going to start selling those down at the
local pet store.
It's like a mouse with a Okay.
Never mind.
James Riddle (44:25):
You probably aren't going to see those at
your local pet store anytimesoon the folks who are
responsible in doing geneediting and creating transgenic
strains of animals.
They tend to keep those out ofthe population, so you don't get
little Stuart Littles drivingall over that's what I was
exactly thinking about?
Nathan Mumm (44:45):
All right, all right.
Our second item here fakestudies are slowing life-saving
medical research, all right.
So there's fraudsters that aregetting rich, and it looks like
crooks are not just stealingyour information through
phishing attempts, but they'renow actually penetrating the
medical field.
James, tell me a little bitabout what this article talks
(45:09):
about regarding fake papers andwhat's going on in the industry
here.
James Riddle (45:21):
Yeah.
So if you've been around in theclinical research or medical
research, even just research ingeneral, the way that you
advance your career is you getpublished right.
Some people hear the termpublish or perish.
Well, if you don't publish,there's a tendency to indeed
perish your career and you findyourself doing something else.
Mike Gorday (45:39):
If your research doesn't work quite right, yeah.
James Riddle (45:46):
So what's been going on is that, as there's
been more and more pressure todevelop new and innovative
things and the pace of researchis accelerating, not
surprisingly some people arefudging their results, and the
detection mechanism for beingable to get into a published
(46:06):
journal is that you get thejournal editors reviewing your
paper and they're supposed to beable to detect fraud or maybe
fabricated information.
Well, it's hard to detect, andthere's enough of it out there
that it does impede futureresearch, and so it also has the
(46:29):
added implication I know howmuch you all love chat GPT.
Well, if you go out to chat GPT, guess what it learns on.
Nathan Mumm (46:35):
It learns on that scientific literature.
Mike Gorday (46:37):
And if it's fake, then it's one of my biggest
problems with chat.
James Riddle (46:44):
GPT off of the scientific literature what to
say about the current state ofaffairs on some scientific
question?
And you get also this garbagethat is out there, and so there
is a and garbage begets garbage,because then of course, if you
(47:05):
want to create a new study, yougo to chat GPT or Gemini and you
ask it what's the scientificliterature say about the current
state of this and that?
And then you start to recreatethe project for something that
wasn't even right in the firstplace.
So it is a problem.
Uh, it's not unique to theresearch universe, uh, but it
does tend to creep in, uh, whenyou get into this publish or
(47:27):
perish model so are these.
Mike Gorday (47:29):
Are these papers penetrating the established and
qualified journals and researchnets?
Or is this the thing wherethey're actually publishing
through a backdoor publisher andlooking like a peer-reviewed
system?
James Riddle (47:48):
Yes to both.
Yes to both.
You're more likely to be ableto put questionable science into
journals that don't have asolid peer review.
But if you go and look at theretraction history that's in the
news article, it's tens ofthousands of papers being
(48:09):
retracted from reputablejournals.
Wow, now, it's a small fractionof the millions of papers that
get published each year, butstill it's enough that it's a
problem.
Marc Gregoire (48:22):
James.
What's the end game on that forthem Money?
James Riddle (48:26):
You mean as far as the end game for faking your?
Speaker 4 (48:30):
data is the famous eating on anything else.
James Riddle (48:33):
Right, you get done faster, you don't have to
put in the effort, you don'thave to perhaps publish results
that don't prove your hypothesis.
Marc Gregoire (48:43):
So it's more researchers and scientists
taking shortcuts, trying topromote themselves versus
something malicious likecybersecurity, it's a
degradation of the scientificmethod.
Mike Gorday (48:52):
Okay.
James Riddle (48:56):
And it's pervasive enough to get mentioned in the
news.
It's been a problem forever,but it's exacerbated by the AI
learning models, where thelearning models are learning
from things that they don't knowaren't right.
Nathan Mumm (49:07):
And see, I guess that's a huge problem.
Where a discerning scientistmight be able to detect that a
particular paper had, uh,something that might be
questionable because as youcreate a large language model
for chat, gpt, and then all of asudden you have china with deep
sea, go and steal thatinformation.
If they don't, because theydon't go back to the most
current large language model,they go to the one that they
(49:27):
published with the information.
So if they don't go back to thenewest information and you have
that language model with allthose fake papers, now you know
you may have something that willbe completely false.
That is proven in one or two orthree different versions of AI
systems that are out there.
Mike Gorday (49:44):
Yeah, but this is also compounded by the brutal,
dark side of research science.
Okay, all right, all right.
Nathan Mumm (49:53):
Okay, well, let's see, james, that we're gonna
have to be drinking even moreafter that.
All right, last question that Ihave here the uk plans for
human trials on the world's mostadvanced brain chip for anxiety
and depression.
Uh, what is this chip going todo and what's going on with this
?
This is, this is exciting.
I've been watching severanceseason two, so tell me a little
bit about what we got going onhere.
James Riddle (50:15):
Yeah, so if you're a Severance fan, this will
resonate.
Speaker 9 (50:17):
Okay.
James Riddle (50:20):
After the down article we talked about with the
fake papers, this one'sactually super cool.
And so the folks at ForestNeurotech have devised a new
type of brain implant that usestargeted ultrasound to change
your behavior and your mood, andit's being researched over in
the UK right now with theNational Health Service.
(50:41):
And unlike most of the otherneuro implants you've heard
Neuralink from Elon Musk and allthat this one doesn't have to
penetrate into your brain matterin order to work.
It sits inside the skull and ituses a brain computer interface
and what it does is it usestargeted ultrasound in various
(51:01):
parts of your brain to changeyour mood and your behavior less
invasive way to impact people'shealth rather than drugs or
surgeries or implantable brainimplants.
If you've ever been to theSeattle Science Center, I
(51:24):
suspect that many of thelisteners in the Seattle area
have.
They have this game there whereyou put on a cap and then the
person on the other side of thetable puts on a cap and you
basically think the ball acrossto the other side of the table.
That's using this basictechnology, although the folks
at forest neurotech have figuredout how to make it really small
and more, much more accurateand put it inside, in underneath
(51:48):
the skull, but not in yourbrain matter super cool all
right, oh great, that's a hugeleap in technology over musk,
yeah yeah, well, yeah, it wouldbe, because if you don't have to
go in and start attaching stuffto the skull itself and you
just put it underneath, thatwould be perfect or crash
rockets all right days are outof time.
Nathan Mumm (52:07):
Tell us how people can get in touch with you
offline after the show.
We got to have you back becausewe have one subject that we
didn't get to talk about.
That, I think, would make greatfor our next time.
James Riddle (52:16):
How can people?
Nathan Mumm (52:17):
contact you.
James Riddle (52:19):
You can connect with me on LinkedIn.
Just go look me up there.
That's where I do all of mysocial media stuff.
Nathan Mumm (52:27):
James thanks for being a part of the show.
If you want to go back and hearall about the Woolly mammoth,
you can go to episode 70, airedon october 16th 2021, and find
out what we got going on forthere.
We thank james so much yeahhe's.
Marc Gregoire (52:38):
He's one of my all-time favorite guests you
have we like james.
Nathan Mumm (52:42):
James is fantastic, so all right.
Well, now we're going to moveright now into our uh last
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Whatever you're trying to do,all right, let's now move on to
(54:00):
our pick of the day whiskeytasting.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Gregoire (54:11):
What we are sipping on today is Smokeye Hill
Barrel Proof.
It is a straight bourbon, fiveplus years.
This one, this batch, is 134.2proof.
It's a mash bill of four grains, with one of them being blue
corn, and it is $90.
Nathan Mumm (54:27):
All right, and we think the blue corn adds to that
little kind of turpentine taste, not the turpentine, more of
the grainy, the grainy sweettaste.
All right.
Well, I'm going to give it athumbs down.
Wow, you know what?
The price point.
If I throw in the price pointin there, I just think there's a
whole lot better that I'vetasted.
And I don't know if I would SeeI would have a $50 bottle of
(54:49):
something I enjoy, versus a $90bottle is something I wouldn't.
So I'm saying thumbs down.
What are you going to go with,Mr Gorday?
Marc Gregoire (54:55):
I'm going to give it a thumbs up.
Okay, I agree with both of you.
So without the price it'dprobably be a thumbs up for me,
okay, but with the price it goesthumbs down.
It goes thumbs down, all right.
Nathan Mumm (55:12):
Well, there you show, so it should be great
segments for everybody to talkabout.
Mike, we're about out of time.
We want to thank our listenersfor joining the program.
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