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Uber's rollout of Waymo autonomous vehicles in Austin marks an exciting milestone in driverless technology, but our analysis reveals persistent safety concerns these companies would rather you didn't focus on. With Waymo expanding beyond its controlled testing environments into everyday transportation, we explore what this means for passenger safety and the future of mobility.

When Roblox CEO Dave Baszucki told concerned parents they simply shouldn't let their kids use his platform if they're worried about safety, we were stunned. With 80 million daily users (40% under age 13), this hands-off approach to platform safety reveals how even spaces designed primarily for children can prioritize growth over protection. Our cybersecurity expert, Nick Espinosa, joins us to unpack this shocking stance and what it means for digital parenting.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Mike Gorday (00:37):
Okay, that was awkward.

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Speaker 1 (01:38):
Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm (01:42):
All right.
Today on Tech Time Radio, weunravel the secrets and uncover
whispers of the unknown.
A peculiar glitch in theMicrosoft Outlook has surfaced.
Is it a bug or is it somethingelse?
The dynamic project codenameKeenan has tech insiders buzzing
.
Could it redefine the gamingbattlefield?
Speaking of games, microsoft'slatest AI for games teases a

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future that feels almost toogood to be true.
Now, our guest today is NickEspinosa.
He's going to be exploring theshadows that linger as North
Korean spyware creeps intounexpected places.

Mike Gorday (02:16):
Did you watch a horror movie this weekend or
something what?

Nathan Mumm (02:19):
is this Then a curious move by Mark Zuckerberg
in China raises unsettlingquestions about power and
influence.
Finally, a tale from the pastthe birth of the first battery
reminds us of how innovationshapes destiny.
What lies beneath these stories?
Stay tuned and find out.

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I've been watching a whole bunchof Severance season two you
know what you know you got tomake a story about nothing and
then make a whole bunch ofunique things Season 2.
So you know what?
You've got to make a storyabout nothing and then make a
whole bunch of unique thingsabout nothing, and then have it
all come together and millionsof people will watch it.
And that's what a successful TVshow is.

Mike Gorday (02:53):
Have you been watching Severance Season 2?
No, I don't watch it.
I don't have that service, soyou get no answer.

Nathan Mumm (02:59):
So it is like Lost on steroids, where you go to
seasons four of loss where likemakes no sense.

Mike Gorday (03:05):
You got flash forwards, individual stuff, okay
so that's I thought and youthought that would be the great
way to start today's show is bytalking nothing about nothing
that's right.

Nathan Mumm (03:14):
That's right, it just sounded.
It sounded really mysterious,though, didn't it okay, not
really it sounded.

Mike Gorday (03:20):
It sounded like you were reaching for something
okay well, oh, is that we?

Nathan Mumm (03:23):
is that what I want to reach to no no, no, no, Okay
, all right.
In addition, we have ourstandard features, including
Mike's mesmerizing moment, ourtechnology fail the week and a
possible Nathan nugget and, ofcourse, our pick of the day
whiskey tastings to see if ourwhiskey picks gets through on
our monthly challenge.
So Mark will be in here to gothrough.
So we got lots of alcohol todrink today.
What do you think about that?

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That's great.

Ody (03:46):
That always makes for a good show yeah.

Nathan Mumm (03:48):
That makes for a good show.
All right, you know what?
Let's not keep our guestswaiting.
Let's move on now to the latestheadlines in the world of
technology.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm (04:02):
All right Story.
Number one Uber riders inAustin can be paired up with
Waymo autonomous vehicles.
Let's go to Crenn Westland formore on this story.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
We've been delighted at the positive feedback from
our Waymo One riders to date andwe can't wait to bring the
comfort, convenience and safetyof the Waymo driver to cities,
in partnership with Uber.
Waymo's mission is to be theworld's most trusted driver and
we're excited to launch thisexpanded network and operations
partnership with Uber in Austinand Atlanta to bring the
benefits of fully autonomousdriving to more riders, said

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Takedra Mawakana, co-ceo ofWaymo.
This is going to be aninteresting combo.
You know it could be worse theycould be driving Teslas around.

Mike Gorday (04:51):
Back to you guys in the studio.
Oh wow, corinne wesley got inthere with a little uh humor
there all right, let's talkabout that.

Nathan Mumm (04:54):
Sure, all right.
Uh, uber riders in austin cannow pair up with waymo
autonomous vehicles.

Mike Gorday (04:58):
Remember, isn't waymo, the, the, the car that
like couldn't drive through the,the parking lot where the guy
kept on going in the circle,that couldn't drive through the
parking lot where the guy kepton going in the circle that we
talked about.

Nathan Mumm (05:07):
That was a big social sensation.
Yeah, but it was also the onethat wrecked a bunch of stuff in
Arizona because of constructionzones, yeah, and is also
failing in San Francisco too.
I really need to do that let'sgo to Austin.

Mike Gorday (05:21):
I really need to do that.

Nathan Mumm (05:23):
Nothing's better than when you get on yourber app
and you now have the option tochoose an autonomous driving uh
individual from the companywaymo.
So just think about all theselucky people that are now able
to access driverless vehicles.
In austin, texas, now uber saysthat texas city is requiring.
They have uber x, uber green,uber comfort, uber comfort
electric, and now you can opt infor the potential match.

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They have Uber X, uber Green,uber Comfort, uber Comfort
Electric, and now you can opt infor the potential match of one
of the electric Jaguar one-pacevehicles.
If it's available, there is noadditional cost.
So if you actually have anopportunity, I only use Uber.

Mike Gorday (05:59):
I do Uber X.

Nathan Mumm (06:01):
Did you know that there was Uber Comfort and Uber
Comfort Electric?
Yeah, there's so many of these.
Now you know how much I an Uber.

Mike Gorday (06:04):
Comfort and Uber Comfort Electric.
Yeah, no, I don't.
There's so many of these now.
You know how much I use Uber,how much Like no, never.

Nathan Mumm (06:10):
I use it when I travel, but I did not know that
there was now fiveclassifications For those who
choose to go driverless.
When Waymo arrives, you'll beable to unlock the vehicle, open
the trunk and begin the tripfrom the Uber app directly.
Currently, austin users cantravel anywhere within the
city's 35-square-mile radius.
If any issue comes up, ofcourse, you have your 24x7

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customer support that'savailable both inside the car
and through the Uber app.
Safety has long been theforefront of the company.
For Waymo, which reached themilestone of surpassing 25
million miles on the road lastyear and 5 million rides, four
millions of those were in 2024,totaling 1 million hours on the
road.
The Mountain View,california-based company claims

(06:56):
it has helped avoid more than 6million kilograms of carbon
dioxide emissions.
So there you go.

Mike Gorday (07:03):
Well, that's nice yeah yeah, let's applaud For
those who want a better chanceof getting a Waymo RoboTaxi.

Nathan Mumm (07:11):
Uber suggests going into the rider's preference
selection and opting in throughthe settings there.
While Austin was just announced, uber and Waymo are already
working on expansion to Atlantasoon as employees are currently
testing the integrated programthere to see if it can be
successful in their currentlocations, including San
Francisco, phoenix and LosAngeles.

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There you go.

Mike Gorday (07:34):
Thank you for using Johnny cab.
There you go.

Nathan Mumm (07:37):
Oh well, I don't know about this.
I mean, I we had Phil Hennessyback on the time when we talked
about this.
So if you do look at thelocations, these are San
Francisco, phoenix, los Angeles.
None of them have snow, that'spredominant, except for Atlanta
will now.
So I don't know what's going tohappen with Atlanta.

Mike Gorday (07:54):
Everybody gets snow at some point.
So you know that's always aconcern, because now they can't
see the designations on theroads, I mean remember a couple,
was it last year, the yearbefore, when Texas got this like
week-long blizzard?

Nathan Mumm (08:09):
Yeah.

Mike Gorday (08:09):
And what's his name ?
Like took off, yeah, and theyhad to like make wood out of
fireplace from the side, yeah,so, yeah, the fact that they're
saying it doesn't get snow, well, that's a lie, yeah, I mean, it
doesn't get snow Well, that's alie.
Yeah, well, that's interesting.
I mean, it doesn't get snowoften, but even you know, I'm
from Arizona, so we got snow andice.

Nathan Mumm (08:31):
You know, I just want the flying car.
Let's just go right to theflying car.

Mike Gorday (08:34):
I'll have somebody drive the flying car, I just
want to go there Until eithereverybody is in one of these
things or you know it's justgonna be, what are you gonna say
?

Nathan Mumm (08:45):
I'm not gonna.
Oh, he's anxious, what he'ssaying I have two things.

Ody (08:48):
One for the customer service that's available 24 7.
Do you think they have to wait15 minutes before they actually
speak to somebody and then?
Two if you, if we can't evenget autonomous vehicles in check
, what makes you think we'reanywhere closer to humans
driving flying vehicles?
Well, I don't you know what'reanywhere closer to humans
driving flying vehicles well, Idon't you know what well that's
a.

Nathan Mumm (09:07):
That's from nathan I want the flying vehicles and
I'll take those.
With somebody driving it for me, I'll be okay with that, but
somebody yeah.
Well, okay, just think of alicense to be that driver.
Hybrid vehicle I would sign upfor that, that would be a job.

Ody (09:22):
She's like, she's, she's excited, yes well people are
licensed now and they drive likeidiots so, so, nothing better.

Nathan Mumm (09:31):
When you get in a car, wreck up and up in the air,
what happens?
You fall to the ground.

Mike Gorday (09:36):
Yeah, you know, I think, I think I think you took
a little bit too much away fromthe star wars prequels, did I?
Yeah, you know it's not goingto be that ordered, okay, all
right, all right, you know what?

Nathan Mumm (09:48):
I can't wait for story number two here.
Mike, you're up, though.
Let's talk about this.

Mike Gorday (09:52):
Let's talk about okay, do you know what roblox is
?
I, I, I do, I do a little bit,yes, okay.
So, if you don't know, uh,roblox is a gaming platform for
kids that are predominantly, youknow, 8 to 12.

Nathan Mumm (10:07):
Okay.
So it's kind of like aMinecraft type of knockoff.

Mike Gorday (10:11):
Yeah, kind of.
It's like this really low-gradegraphic thing.
My kids played it for a while.
It was like a little shootergame.
Okay, I don't know what they donow, but I hear about it.
But at any rate, for parentswho are worried about their
children being on Roblox andgetting bullied or groomed which

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has been some of the concernsRoblox's CEO came to the rescue
and let them know what to do.
Oh, okay, what can we do tohelp that he?
He said just don't let yourkids get on roblox.
What yep, the ceo said that theyep okay the site, which is most

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popular among young gamers aged8 to 12, yeah, has been dogged
by claims of some children beingexposed to explicit or harmful
content through his games.
Alongside multiple reportedallegations of bullying and
grooming, its co-founder, ceo,dave Bazzucchi, insisted that
the company is vigilant inprotecting its users and pointed

(11:18):
out that tens of millions ofpeople have amazing experience
on the site.
And when asked what his messageto parents who don't want their
children on the platform, hebasically said my first message
to me if you're not comfortable,don't let your kids be on
Roblox.

Nathan Mumm (11:34):
Doesn't that kind of go against advertising to try
to build your platform?

Mike Gorday (11:37):
Well, you know there is.
I see I see part of the point.
You know, you know, um, we talkabout this quite a bit.
Uh, one of the ways of curbingthese types of problems is, you
know, don't use them, okay.
So us-based roblox is one ofthe world's largest game
platforms, with more monthlyusers than the nintendo switch

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and sony playstation combinedwow, that's a lot in 2024, it
averaged more than 80 millionplayers per day, roughly 40% of
them below the age of 13.
Its vast empire includes some 40million user-generated games
and experience.

Nathan Mumm (12:14):
She said 80 million players per day.

Mike Gorday (12:17):
Yeah, that's what it says.
Oh my word wow that's a lot ofplayers.
The CEO says he remainsconfident in roblox's safety
tools and this just insists yeah, the firm goes above and beyond
to keep its users safe, whichyou know everybody does like but
if you're really worried aboutit, just don't have your kids
play it.

(12:37):
Yeah, okay he basically says wewatch for bullying, we watch for
harassment, we filter all ofthose kind of things and I would
say, behind the scenes, theanalysis goes all the way to, if
necessary, reaching out to lawenforcement okay players who
choose not to display what hecalls civility can face
temporary timeouts and longerbans.
You know that that works allthe time, and roblox puts your

(12:58):
kid in the corner.

Nathan Mumm (13:00):
Puts your kid in the corner, is that you're
gonna're going to do Timeout?

Mike Gorday (13:02):
Okay, robux claims to analyze all communications
that pass between members on theplatform.
So you know, that's a littlesus.
Okay, that's a little suspect.
If you have 80 million peopleplaying on this thing and
they're chatting and talking toeach other, there's no way
you're, there's no way you're, Idon't.

Nathan Mumm (13:23):
Unless just someone reports somebody.

Mike Gorday (13:25):
Well, you know they're using more advanced AI
systems and stuff.
But you know, hey.

Nathan Mumm (13:29):
I'm sure that's working out well for them.

Mike Gorday (13:32):
Yeah, that's like you know, Xbox does this too on
certain games that.

Nathan Mumm (13:36):
I play.
Yeah, did you get banned?

Mike Gorday (13:41):
Did you in the chat features where if you type a
series of letters it will blockit out of the chat.
Right, okay, uh, but likeprofanities and certain.
Well, you would think no but youcould type certain things like
the t-h-e yeah, and it'll blockthe entire sentence up because

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he puts the in there, okay.
So, yeah, it works really good.
All All right.
In November of last year,under-13s were banned from
sending direct messages and alsofrom playing in Hangout
Experience, which features chatsbetween players.
Mr Bazooki admits there's a.
Why are CEO names just reallyout there, bazooki?

Nathan Mumm (14:27):
Bazooki, because he got teased so much in school
that he figured out that he hadto go be a.
Ceo of a company.
There you go, yeah.

Mike Gorday (14:32):
Admits that.
He admits that there's adelicate balance between
encouraging friendships betweenyoung people and blocking
opportunities before them tocome to harm.
But he says he is confidentthat Roblox can manage both.
He describes his job as alittle like having the
opportunity he had a long timeago when he was designing the
magic kingdom okay, so he workedat disney.

Nathan Mumm (14:55):
Huh, yeah, yeah, I think he did well, I don't know.

Mike Gorday (14:57):
This sounds like an al gore thing, uh, does it?

Nathan Mumm (15:01):
yeah he designed the magic kingdom I actually I
think walt did that, didn't wellactually do that?
Well, I don't know before hepassed away I'm pretty sure you
did.

Mike Gorday (15:09):
I thought so, but you know okay okay, whatever.
So anyway, he is focusing onroblox's ongoing evolution into
a metaverse style experiencewhere people go about their
daily lives in a virtual worldin avatar form.
All right, asked to describeroblox roblox in three words, he

(15:29):
replies the future ofcommunication.
That's four words.

Nathan Mumm (15:33):
Well, you wrote three words Actually.
No, that's what he did.
He actually responded.
When he was asked to describeRoblox, he responded the future
of communication.

Mike Gorday (15:43):
So if you're concerned, which is, I mean,
that's valid.

Marc Gregoire (15:47):
Yeah.

Mike Gorday (15:48):
If you're concerned about your child doing it,
don't let him play Roblox.
Okay, that's cool.

Nathan Mumm (15:54):
Let him play Minecraft instead.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
Yeah, let him play Minecraft.
Yeah, Minecraft.

Mike Gorday (15:58):
I don't think you can chat and contact each other
in.

Nathan Mumm (16:00):
Minecraft, you cannot.

Mike Gorday (16:01):
You know, the funny thing is that that's his.
He's like eh, don't worry aboutit hey, if you don't like it,
just go go that that that tellsyou his his sort of customer
service he's made.

Nathan Mumm (16:12):
He's made millions.

Mike Gorday (16:13):
He's like man, that's all right, go someplace
you don't like it, go, uh, getout, get on out of here all
right.

Nathan Mumm (16:19):
Can't you wait for story number three?
Here's what we got.
Microsoft says oops on acurrent bug feature.
Or is it a way to have peoplemove forward?
The button to restore classicoutlook is broken.
Uh, or is it a way to havepeople move forward?
The button to restore classicOutlook is broken.
Or is it a way to force you anupgrade?
Microsoft is investigating aknown issue that causes the new
Outlook email client to crashwhen the user clicks go to the

(16:40):
classic Outlook button.
I've actually experienced thismyself.
So if you get the new version,they're trying to upgrade to the
new version of Outlook and thengives you this little switch
button at the very top and itsays you can go back.
If you do that, best of luck,because it's going to crash your
Outlook and you're going tohave problems doing that For
Microsoft are they really intodoing hinky stuff like this?
They kind of want to force theirusers in a non-aggressive way.

(17:04):
So this is thepassive-aggressive way to get
you.

Mike Gorday (17:05):
I mean they totally said that we were going to have
Windows 10 forever, and youknow suddenly Windows 11 came
out.

Nathan Mumm (17:12):
I'm on Windows 11.
Yeah, me too, okay.
So some users reported that thego back to classic Outlook
button and the new Outlook forWindows does not open and they
have to go to a support articleon how to download classic
Outlook for Windows.
The company said on WednesdayWell, looking into the issue,
redmond also provides affectedwith a temporary workaround

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which requires them to installthe classic client by clicking a
store link in the Microsoftstore to reload it.
Now those who want to switchback can download the standalone
Outlook classic, as long asyou're on a Windows platform but
don't have a Mac, because ifyou do that and move from the
classic version to the newversion, there is no going back

(17:58):
ever.
All right, now if you are onWindows Server 2016 or Windows
Server 2019, don't be using theclassic Outlook, because it will
do what they consider a controlalt delete, which means it will
reboot the server when you tryto actually launch the app.
So if you want to get yourserver up and running and you
want to do a clean reinstall,all you got to do is go back and
install the classic outlook,launch it and see what happens
now.
Is this a coincidence orthey're making some trouble so

(18:19):
that it's so bad to move back tothe old outlook.
You just move on.

Mike Gorday (18:23):
Yeah, I'm, I'm thinking maybe this is a really
good way to see if there's goingto be a lot of complaining
about it.
If there's too much, they canbe like oh, it was just a bug,
it was just a bug, but if not,they're like hey, okay, we're
just going to go forward.
That's right, you know, we'vebeen talking to Dave Buzucki.
He says if you don't like it,just don't use it, that's right.

Nathan Mumm (18:46):
That is our top technology stories of the week.
When we return, nick Espinosafrom Security Fanatics will join
the show.
What cybercrime do we have toworry about today, and is AI
going to take over the world?
We'll find out next.
You're listening to Tech Timewith Nathan Mumm.
See you after the commercialbreak.

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All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts, we do itwith a sense of humor, in less
than 60 minutes and, of course,with a little whiskey on the
side.
But today Mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseur, is back.
He has our monthly tradition.
Mark explain what we do withthe Whiskey Month tasting to all

(20:11):
of our new listeners.

Marc Gregoire (20:13):
Yeah.
So today we're doing the 2024Flavor Advent Calendar Round 3.
So we're using the 2024 FlavorWhiskey Advent Calendar with 24
remarkable whiskeys to use forour year-long blind whiskey
competition to see which oneNathan and Mike like best.
So everybody, please come alongfor the ride once every month.

(20:33):
While they uncover new tastesand train their senses to become
true connoisseurs, today isround three, where they will
choose their winner to move onto the semifinals.
If they disagree, of course, Iam the deciding vote.
Now, while you drink your fourwhiskeys, I'm going to fill
people in a little bit aboutsome whiskey, okay.
So today our samples aredifferent types of whiskeys.

(20:54):
What is whiskey?
It's defined as spiritsdistilled from fermented mash of
grain at less than 95% alcoholby volume so that's 190 proof
Having the taste, aroma andcharacteristics generally
attributed to whiskey andbottled at not less than 80
proof.
Now, according to the tax andtrade bureau, there are no fewer

(21:14):
than 41 different categories ofspirits that are legally
whiskey in the united states.
Okay to be bourbon, forinstance, additional
specifications need to be met,such as made in the us 51, age
in a new chart, oak container,etc.
Therefore, all bourbon iswhiskey, but not all whiskey is
bourbon.
So how are your four tastingtoday?

Nathan Mumm (21:38):
I had one that I think tasted like turpentine,
and the other three I'm actuallypretty good with.

Mike Gorday (21:42):
All right.

Nathan Mumm (21:43):
What did you think, Mike?

Mike Gorday (21:45):
All of them taste pretty good to me.

Nathan Mumm (21:46):
Did they taste pretty good?
How about this one right here?

Mike Gorday (21:49):
This is our tall glass the tall glass what do you
think that that fell?

Nathan Mumm (21:52):
in the third place.
Okay, that's, that was kind ofmy lowest of the deals and I
actually kind of started outwith the the heavy uh drinking
of this bad boy right here.

Marc Gregoire (22:01):
I kind of like that one, but it was a little
and to give you guys a hint,none of these whiskeys are from
the us.

Mike Gorday (22:06):
Really, that's correct, are they Asian?

Marc Gregoire (22:10):
Oh, they're throughout the world.

Mike Gorday (22:12):
Oh, okay, okay, All right, all right.
I know one was tasted very likeit was from Japan.

Marc Gregoire (22:19):
One of them was Japanese.
Which one was that?

Nathan Mumm (22:22):
This one right here .
This one right here.

Marc Gregoire (22:24):
Is that the one in the Glencairn?
Is that correct?
No, oh, glencairn, is thatcorrect?
No, yeah.

Nathan Mumm (22:30):
Okay, I can't forget what I said.
Then how about this one?

Mike Gorday (22:34):
No, how about this?

Marc Gregoire (22:35):
one.
No it was the one I don't like.

Nathan Mumm (22:43):
It was this one, I hear.
We just have to re-edit theshow there so we can say that it
was the first one.
Alright, well, I can't wait forus to taste more.
Japan is pretty much out of therunning.
All right, with our firstwhiskey tasting completed, let's
move on to our feature segment.
Today, our technology expert,nick Espinosa, is joining the
show.
Nick is an expert incybersecurity and network
infrastructure.
He has consulted with clientsranging from small business to

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the Fortune 100 level.
In 1998, at the age of 19, nickfounded Windy City Networks,
which was later acquired in 2015.
He then created SecurityFanatics, where he's the chief
security fanatic.
We welcome Nick to the Comcastvideo stream to start our next
segment.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts
With our tech time radio expert,Nick Espinoza.

Nathan Mumm (23:30):
All right, nick.
Welcome back to the show.
Now tell a little bit aboutyourself to any of our new
listeners that are joining theprogram.

Nick Espinosa (23:36):
Yeah, yeah, hey guys, hey guys, and first things
first Mike Severance is awesome, so he needs to watch it,
doesn't he I?
Can't stop watching it.
Also, I will say that Waymoalso, they've gotten like 600
tickets in San Francisco forparking and stuff.
So take that for what it'sworth.
But yes, I am Nick Espinosa,the chief security fanatic of

(23:57):
Security Fanatics, and I amsolely here to guard Nathan's
American chickens from Chinesesurveillance.

Ody (24:03):
There you go.

Nick Espinosa (24:05):
That's my whole thing.

Mike Gorday (24:06):
But yes, I thought you were into all that stuff.
Was that the surveillance stuff, whole?
Thing?
But yes, I thought you wereinto all that stuff?

Nathan Mumm (24:11):
Was that the surveillance stuff?
Actually, you know what?
I do have a live stream for ourchickens.
We that we put up, which isactually ran by Russian people
that are just broadcasting andprobably grabbing a lot of
information from us.
There you go.
All right, a lot from yourchicken, there you go.
I do like my chickens a lot.
We do a whole bunch coming,I'll tell you.
With the egg crisis right now,our chickens are doing fine,
yeah.

Nick Espinosa (24:31):
Yeah, that gold right there, that gold in your
backyard, that's right.

Nathan Mumm (24:34):
All right, Nick, let's talk.
North Korea has been busy.
All right, we have some Androidspyware that has slipped into
Google Play.
Can you explain a little bitabout what is happening with our
friends from North Korea?

Nick Espinosa (24:44):
Yeah, first things first.
I believe it's pronounced bestKorea, according to them, so
just throwing that out there.
But, yes, you're 100% right.
We are talking about what iscalled an APT or Advanced
Persistent Threat Group that isessentially being tracked, and
they're known as SCARCRAFT orAPT 37.
And they've essentially beenoperating since 2012.
And they really haven't focusedon this kind of work before.

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They focused on a couple ofcountries in Asia, middle East,
eastern Europe, et cetera, etcetera, and now they're
deploying malware, and so thisis obviously a huge thing.
As you mentioned, they've beeninfecting Android devices,
essentially with malwareintended to spy on both Korean
and English speakers.
Now, this malware is known asCoSpy and it was essentially

(25:27):
found by Look security and theythought they spotted this in the
google play store, infectingthird-party uh apps as well as
third-party app stores as well.
And here we are and it isgathering a ton, a metric ton,
of sensitive data because, well,spies got a spy right.
So we are talking.
If it gets into your phone calllogs, text messages, files,

(25:49):
audio screenshots, your location, a whole bunch of stuff.
It's kind of akin, uh, to thepegasus talking if it gets into
your phone call logs, textmessages, files, audio
screenshots your location, awhole bunch of stuff.
It's kind of akin to thePegasus infection on Apple, but
it's not as persistent.
Now this malware has beenembedded into bogus utility apps
, and so some of these apps havetitles like File Manager, which
sucks, because I love that oneI'm just kidding, all right and

(26:10):
also like Software UpdateUtility and something called
Kakao Security, which I'mguessing is focusing on Korea,
and this is all according toLookout.
Google has taken this down, buteven though Google has taken
down all these known infectedapps and updated their threat
databases for this, there'sstill a lot of people out there
that still have them on theirphones and are running these

(26:31):
things that, quite frankly, youshould be listening to tech time
radio, you know what?

Nathan Mumm (26:36):
So here's we have a question, because people say
well, you know what, I can'tfind it in the store any longer
and I removed it from my device,so I don't have to worry about
it.
Is that really true?
It just because you remove theapp that was once installed, or
it's no longer in the store,does that clean your phone from
these Android spyware?

Nick Espinosa (26:57):
No, no, no.
This isn't like Flappy Bird,where you're just removing it
and it's innocuous and all thatkind of stuff and you can never
get it back.
What a lot of malware does issideload other things.
So in other words, you get thisthere, it starts phoning home
and it starts downloading andevading permissions and
installing other apps, othertypes of infections as well, to
maintain persistence, akaadvanced persistent threat

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persistence, so you can removefile manager or whatever else
it's called, and you may stillbe infected.
It's a huge problem that we'vegot, which is why on Android, we
third-party antiviral solutionsthat will basically scan and
check all apps, all files, etcetera, et cetera, so you don't
have to necessarily wipe andredo your phone, which
unfortunately happens in a lotof cases.

Mike Gorday (27:40):
Do you have a recommendation for which app to
use?

Nick Espinosa (27:46):
Are we talking brands?

Mike Gorday (27:47):
Yeah, I'm sure Avast is not one of them.

Nick Espinosa (27:51):
Well, I guess I'll skip that recommendation
then.
No, so the one that's beenconsistently good over years.
There's a German outfit I cannever remember their name, but
every month they test all themajor Android antivirus
solutions and in the top three,consistently, year over year or
month over month, I should sayhas been Bitdefender.
And so Bitdefender has actuallybeen really solid on Android,

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and so if you've got an Android,they've got a free version and
they got one for like 14 bucksor something like that, but
either way, that's good.
Interestingly enough,virustotal also has an app as
well that you can go ahead anddownload for free.
That will go ahead and scan allof your apps against the
VirusTotal database, and I'm abig fan of that.
Perfect.

Nathan Mumm (28:31):
That's great, All right, Now let's continue on.
Mark Zuckerberg was caughtbending over backwards, and to
help well, that's I'm sorry, Washe bending over backwards?
No, no to placate the Chinese,to the point where he deleted a
Facebook profile.
What's going on here, nick?
Let's talk about this.

Nick Espinosa (28:50):
Yeah, and in obvious news Mark Zuckerberg is
a terrible human being there yougo.

Marc Gregoire (28:54):
That's my opinion officially.

Nick Espinosa (28:55):
I don't think that's news, nick, yeah, and for
the record, this radio show isabout to go from open bar to a
12-step program, literally Inthe next four to five months,
that's right.
So here's what this is.
Zuckerberg essentially waswilling to go to just the
absolute, insane lengths to bothcensor content and shut down
political dissent on Facebook,and this was basically a failed

(29:18):
attempt to get the approval ofthe Chinese Communist Party,
because he really, really,really wanted Facebook in China,
world's largest population oftech users right Now.
This complaint was leveled by aformer employee, sarah Wynn
Williams.
She worked basically on a teamhandling the China policy for
Facebook, aka Meta, andessentially wrote a book that

(29:38):
made Meta show up in court withan army of lawyers to basically
get it stopped from beingdistributed and also to stop her
from promoting it.
And literally, like two daysago, the court said yes, you get
a temporary injunction, meta.
So Sarah has to shut up,unfortunately, and her book
can't be distributed at thismoment, which really, really
sucks.
So with that, here we are, and,for the record, I mean she's

(30:01):
doing the cyber lord's work here, so I'm a big fan.
Wynne Williams, for the record,alleged that Meta was so
desperately trying to get in theChina's market that it offered
some of the most insane,horrific surveillance things
that you would never want anyAmerican company to do.
So they were Meta FacebookZuckerberg was going to give the
ruling party the ability tooversee all social media content

(30:23):
appearing in China and crushingdissent opinions.
They also were going to build acustomized censorship system
just for China in 2015 and planto install a chief editor that
essentially, basically couldlook at things like social
unrest, shut down sites, allthis kind of stuff.
And, for the record, that chiefeditor would not have been a

(30:44):
Facebook employee.
It would have been a member ofthe Chinese Communist Party that
essentially ran the entirecensorship program.
We are talking about going ontoa free and open platform saying
something negative about China.
Get them in square, it's aboutwhatever, and they're able to
shut it down and then go arresttheir citizen.
It's absolutely nuts.
Zuckerberg also agreed to crackdown on the account of a

(31:06):
high-profile Chinese dissidentliving in the United States.
The Communist Party wanted himto essentially kill the Facebook
profile and pages of thisdissident here living here in
the United States, and he did it.
And then they told Facebook,said we don't know what happened
, must have been a glitch, blah,blah, blah, so like.
So this is absolutely nuts.

(31:27):
And then when, when Facebookand Zuckerberg were actually
asked about all of these effortsto enter China, facebook
executives, uh, executives, uhjust repeatedly, and I quote,
stonewalled and providednon-responsive or misleading
information and quote toinvestors and American
regulators.
So he's a terrible human being.
And you're also talking to theguy that did a video years ago

(31:49):
that went viral, called it'sTime to Put Mark Zuckerberg in
Jail.
So ask me what I really think.

Mike Gorday (31:54):
So Zuck is simping to China to get his platform
over there because Facebook isfor Meta?
Yeah, he was, because Meta ison the way out.

Nick Espinosa (32:06):
Yeah, yeah, and he pulled an Eric Cartman for
the record too, because whathappened was China told him to
go pound sand and he said I'lldo what I want.
And then he basically went infront of the American public
media Congress whatever and saidChina's like the worst place
ever for censorship andeverything else, when he was
more than willing to do it.

Mike Gorday (32:25):
Was this before or after he gave?
Gave a million dollars to thetrump campaign, or you mean the
inauguration I think it was allbefore.
This is all before, okay so nowhe's sucking back up, sucking
back up to the us government.

Nathan Mumm (32:40):
So all I say is that we've talked about this
before.
You know what we would love foryou to join tech time radio on
blue sky, our social mediaplatform that we're pushing
pretty heavily right now, causeyou know what?
There's a lot of great things.
I know it's kind of more of anequivalent to an X replacement,
but I think the social mediablue sky can continue to grow.
So find us there on tech timeradio.

(33:01):
Do you have a blue sky accountthere and also a Nick?

Nick Espinosa (33:04):
At Nick a ESP.

Nathan Mumm (33:06):
Oh, there you go at Nick.

Nick Espinosa (33:07):
AESP.
Oh, there you go and it'sverified, so maybe it's my
website now.
Okay, there you go, but eitherway, I have a verified Blue Sky
account.

Nathan Mumm (33:13):
Perfect, All right.
A new study shows that AIsearch engines are horribly
inaccurate.
Now we've covered this also.
So Mike is going to be soexcited today because he's been
saying this forever.
Explain to us your feedback onthis, because we kind of
communicated back and forth onthis a bit.

Nick Espinosa (33:31):
Yeah, yeah.
So this one is well I mean inan obvious news right.
So the Tao Center for DigitalJournalism recently basically
challenged eight AI searchengines to a test, and we're
talking about the heavy hittersof basically the search engines
here.
So ChatGPT, search forPerplexity and Perplexity, pro

(33:51):
Gemini from Google, deepseeksearch, the pro-China AI that
they released to the world, elonMusk's Grok 2 and Grok 3 search
engine, microsoft Copilot, andall that, and they tested them
for accuracy and they basicallyrecorded how frequently the
tools refused to answer as well.
So could it actually answer thequestion or tell you it
couldn't, or does it just answereverything?

(34:11):
Or you know, hey, is itanswering and how accurate is it
?
And so, by virtue of that,their testing criteria was
pretty solid.
But let's dive into the results,because I don't think you want
me speaking for 20 minutes ontheir actual testing criteria
and the results.
For the record, they ain'tgreat.
So, other than both versions ofperplexity, the AI did terribly
Collectively, on average, theywere inaccurate 60% of the time.

(34:35):
Meaning every time you wereasking it as a search engine,
something, 6 out of 10 times youweren't getting something
accurate, whether it waspartially or fully inaccurate.
That's insane.
Now the problem that we havehere and Mike can speak to this
as well is the psychology behindthis, at least on the human
side, is that we, as humans,tend to take these results as

(34:55):
authoritative.
And so if it is basicallysucking up Russian
disinformation you know which Idid a podcast on that like a
week ago and spitting it backout to you like the chat GPTs of
the world tend to do thatyou're taking that as gospel
because, quite frankly, it seemsauthoritative like a standard
Google search does.
Oh, and for the record, chatGPT would answer every flippant

(35:16):
question it was asked, even ifit didn't have an answer,
compared to Microsoft's copilot,which only answered 96 out of
the 200 questions that it wasasked, so less than half.
But I would rather have an AIsay I don't know how to answer
that than straight up lie to me,you know, and that's the thing,
those narcissist AIs.
There it is.
There it is, but the worst ofit, the worst of it by far, was

(35:40):
El Capitan de Doge's AI Grok.
You know that was the worst.
Like 94% of the time it wasinaccurate.
So take that for what it'sworth.
But here we are.

Nathan Mumm (35:51):
You can go back to last week's episode with James,
and he said that too right hesaid, all the medical journals
that are being submitted areinaccurate.
So now, all of a sudden, thelarge language model has
inaccurate information on themedical side of things, and then
that becomes just fact, eventhough it was never
peer-reviewed or anything tothat.

Mike Gorday (36:07):
Yeah, it sort of brings up the question.
You know, if one of them isoutlandishly out of touch, where
is it feeding its informationfrom?

Nick Espinosa (36:19):
Right.
Well, in the case of Gemini, itwas getting it from the onion,
because it told all of ushealth-wise to eat a rock a day
back six months ago, or whatever, you know, did you have
something to?

Nathan Mumm (36:30):
say mark, it looked like you were gonna say okay,
all right, okay.
Last but not least, we're gonnaend on a high note.
All right.
The federal workers at thegeneral service administration,
known as the gsa, have beenreplaced by a chat bot from the
doge group that has been calledno better than an intern.
Explain this story to us, nick.

Nick Espinosa (36:49):
Yeah, yeah, so this one's absolutely I don't
even know what to do.
We all know that Doge isbasically taking a chainsaw per
Elon Musk to governmentdepartments, and so what we're
talking about is the GeneralServices Administration, or GSA.
Doge basically has given 1,500employees access to a chatbot, a
proprietary chatbot called GSAI.

(37:11):
Now, apparently, this wasrushed out the door by Doge with
the intention of deploying itacross the entire agency, and
it's supposed to be like asupport staff with doing general
tasks, so Doge sent an internalmemo that was obtained by Wired
, the publication, and GSAemployees were told that, when
it comes to what they could dowith GSAI, the options were
endless, and that endless listwas draft emails, create talking

(37:34):
points, summarize text, writecode.
That is considered endless.
So employees, though and here'sthe other thing that is
bewildering is that employeeswere also given essentially a
major caveat about how theycould use it.
They could put no non-publicinformation or controlled,
unclassified information that's,information that's sensitive

(37:54):
but doesn't rise to the standardof classified can be shared
with it.
So it's deeply sensitive,internal, not for public
consumption, and that's likehalf their job, given what the
GSA does, and so that's a hugeproblem, which deeply limits
this.
Basically, staffers are alsocalling it janky, quote unquote
and basically as good as anintern, with generic and

(38:15):
guessable answers.
So if I ask ChatGPT to write mea default template and I get
generic answers, that's whatthis thing is doing.
And so if they're looking atthis to essentially which was in
beta mode, for the record, elonMusk did not create this.
This had been developedinteragency for years by the GSA
and it was still kind of jankyand they just deployed it and
said, ah, this will replace theworkers.

(38:37):
No, it just doesn't work thatway.
We're not there yet.

Mike Gorday (38:41):
Well, that's unfortunate.
They could have had the Grokplatform.

Marc Gregoire (38:45):
Yeah, very unfortunate.

Nathan Mumm (38:49):
Alright, nick, we could go on for five hours, all
right.
Thank you for coming on theshow.
It's always a pleasure to talkwith you.
Please tell our listeners howthey can connect with you
outside of our show.

Nick Espinosa (38:57):
Yeah, well, outside of watching Nathan's
Chicken Coop feed you can findme on Blue Sky Also, axel,
though I don't really doanything there anymore at Nick
AESP.
Linkedin slash Nick Espinosa.
Youtube slash Nick Espinosa.
Come say hi.

Nathan Mumm (39:12):
There you go.
Oh, thank you so much.
Tech Time Radio enjoys ourmonthly conversations with Nick.
Good thing, I brought in extrawhiskey today, that's right, all
right, okay, that ends our Askthe Expert with Nick Espinosa.
Now we have our Mike'sMesmerizing Moment.
Welcome to Mike's MesmerizingMoment.

(39:33):
What does Mike have to saytoday?
All right, mike, we're a littlebit out of time, but I still
want to hear what you say onthis.
What type of guardrails shoulda game company catering to
younger?

Mike Gorday (39:49):
audience have in them.
Not having them at all, nothaving not having things where
you know this is.
This is a hard one because wetalk about this stuff all the
time, right?
So the the whole thing is basedon their ability to communicate
.
Yep, so the guardrail shouldactually be that they can't

(40:11):
communicate to each other.

Nathan Mumm (40:13):
So do like.

Mike Gorday (40:13):
Minecraft, which, yeah, like Minecraft, which is,
you know, counterintuitive towhat brings in the money for
these things and why people liketo get online.
You know, we spend a lot oftime substituting real life for
virtual life, and part of thatis being able to communicate
with the people you're playingwith.

Marc Gregoire (40:32):
Okay.

Mike Gorday (40:32):
Right, so, but on the other hand, we have this
persistent problem where badactors can come into the system
and bully or groom or dowhatever they're doing because
they have access tocommunication and bully or groom
or do whatever they're doingbecause they have access to
communication.
And when you have, when youhave access to that point to
point communication, you can,you can get information about

(40:54):
people that makes themvulnerable to, you know, uh,
manipulation.
So so remove chat, that wouldbe, that would be, but they're
not going to do that becausethen that that takes away the
experience.
And I guarantee if, if, roblo,that would be, but they're not
going to do that, because thenthat takes away the experience.

Nathan Mumm (41:14):
And I guarantee if Roblox did that for instance, if
they took away all the chatfeatures and ability to
communicate, they wouldn't have80 million users.

Mike Gorday (41:16):
No, they would drop substantially because that's
what we're doing with our.
We're allowing in our societytoday is our children to
communicate with people invirtual life instead of in real
life.
So it creates a huge problemthere you go.

Nathan Mumm (41:35):
All right, Mike.
Thank you for that mesmerizingmoment.
Up next we have this Week inTechnology, so now would be a
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The creation of the firstbattery Alessandro Volta sends a
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of London, describing hiselectric pile.
This is the first device thatcould be a form of steady flow
of electricity, now recognizedas the first practical battery.

(43:21):
The entire reason Volta createdthe device was to prove another
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Luigi galvani had incorrectlytold people he believed the frog
muscles could generateelectricity.
Volta did not believe that thefrog legs were the process of
the electricity, so he set outto prove him wrong regardless.

(43:42):
Within mere weeks, theimportance of this first battery
was realized, which allowedmany further scientific
advancements to be possible,such as electrochemistry.
Recognized for the importanceof his work, the electric unit
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Nathan Mumm (45:06):
All right, what do we got going on?

Marc Gregoire (45:08):
today.
You've been practicing todayalready throughout the show.
Uh-huh, oh, what do we gotgoing on today, mark, you've
been practicing today alreadythroughout the show Uh-huh, oh,
what's that?

Nathan Mumm (45:15):
It's Awkward Moments Day, oh, wow, okay, all
right.

Marc Gregoire (45:17):
So some things are just better out in the open.
And Awkward Moments Day is yourchance to embrace those
embarrassing or awkward momentsfrom your past and laugh about
them.
So human history is filled withthese, from Isaac Newton
incorrectly predicting the endof the world several times to
Ariana Grande getting caught oncamera licking a donut at a
bakery before putting it back.

Nathan Mumm (45:36):
Oh, wow, I did not know that.

Marc Gregoire (45:37):
If you're one of those people, today's your day I
need to search that out on theinternet.
I'm sure Odie's heard of it,Odie have you heard of Ariana
Grande?

Mike Gorday (45:50):
I think Ariana, I'm sure odie's heard of it.
Oh, do you have you heard ofariana grande?
I think is.
I think ariana grande was theone in this uh interview when
they asked what her favoritedish was and she was like, oh,
it's a coffee cup no, that's,that's demi lovato oh, is that,
demi lovato?

Ody (45:58):
oh I love a mug, oh like okay, there you go so what is
all?

Mike Gorday (46:03):
wings anyone?

Marc Gregoire (46:05):
what's awkward today is we have some whiskeys
that are probably not in ourflavor profile.
Here are four whiskeys that weare tasting today.
So number one, which is in thetall glass, is from japan.
It's a japanese whiskey.
It's 86 proof, 100 maltedbarley and $50.

(46:26):
Okay, and it's called Seik SatoShiki.
It is Shiki.

Nathan Mumm (46:31):
It's very Shiki, alright Awkward.
Very awkward.

Marc Gregoire (46:37):
In the Glencairn we have the Irishman the Harvest
, so this is an Irish whiskey.
It is 80 proof, 100% maltedbarley, but it is a blend of 70%
aged single malt and 30% singlepot still, and it's $37.
In the beer glass is StarwardNovo single malt.

(46:59):
So this is from Australia andit's three years old.
It is 82 proof, 100% maltedbarley, but it's aged in wine
barrels.
It's $40.
Okay, and then in the rocksglass you have high and wicked
number seven, four square.
This is from Ireland, it's anIrish whiskey but it's

(47:21):
interesting, it's 95% corn, fivemalted barley, and it's aged
and finished in rum barrels.

Nathan Mumm (47:30):
Oh, and it's $80.
That's this one right here.
Yes, it is.
Yeah, I like that.
It's all gone.
You see that that disappearedquickly.

Mike Gorday (47:36):
Yeah, you had more liquor in your cups than I did.

Marc Gregoire (47:39):
Did I yeah?

Nathan Mumm (47:39):
Do we?

Marc Gregoire (47:40):
have a clear number one between you two.

Nathan Mumm (47:42):
We're going to have to wait for the pick of the day
.
Well, I kind of need to,because if I got to choose,
alright.

Marc Gregoire (47:46):
Alright, gotta leave it to the time.

Mike Gorday (47:47):
if I have to be the tiebreaker, my leading one is
the Australian whiskey.

Nathan Mumm (47:51):
I'm pretty close on that too.

Mike Gorday (47:53):
That's my leader.

Marc Gregoire (47:54):
I can be on that too.
Alright, I'll have to tastethem in a.
It's in here, okay, alright.

Nathan Mumm (48:00):
Whiskey and technology are a great pairing,
just like the NCAA basketballtournament and springtime
weather.
Now let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week,
brought to us by elite executiveservicemen, technology experts
to help you out of a technologyfail.
We are out of time.
Congratulations, You're afailure.

Speaker 8 (48:18):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes, did I.

Nathan Mumm (48:26):
Yes, all right.
So my technology fail is goingto go right into the Nathan
Nuggets, because they're kind ofthe same things.
Guess what we got here.
You know what?
Microsoft is developing an AIto help me cheat at video games.
It's not the Konami code withthe up up, down down, left right
code, but Microsoft is makingCopilot AI to assist with gamers
.
Now, it hasn't released yet andI'm already putting it on a

(48:50):
failure.
Microsoft announced the pendingavailability of Copilot for
Gaming and AI-powered assistancethat it helps you as you walk
through and play the games.
Microsoft boasts that it canhelp folks download and launch
games, solving theever-a-problem of hitting a
single button to say downloadright, don't get me started on
this.
Here we go.
I guess it's really difficultto hit the green button and say
download, but I guess it canhelp me solve that problem.

(49:12):
Now.
What it also does is that itruns on a second screen so it
can actually help you out as youplay the game itself.
It's discord.
That's what kind of it is.
Now the demos have showedcopilot, enabling cheats in
minecraft and with a bot.
Telling a player where tocrafting material could be fine.
You can think of it also asanswering questions or if you're

(49:32):
in a mystery game, it'll tellyou, go over to the bottom left
hand corner and click on thisand you'll find your item there
yeah, let's, let's, let's takeall the mystery out of it.
So let's remove the game aspectof playing a game and let's just
have it so I can do a click andfeel taken care of.

Mike Gorday (49:47):
Why don't we just, you know, get rid of the
middleman and let Copilot playthe game for me?

Nathan Mumm (49:53):
Well, you know what I'm thinking about Madden
football, right?
So I'm not very good.
I love playing Madden football.
Well, these kids nowadays areso quick on it.

Mike Gorday (50:03):
If I could get it to cheat on that and I wouldn't.

Nathan Mumm (50:05):
I all of a sudden it says you want to bring up
your dime defense and you needto do this.
I'd be like, yeah, so I don'tknow.
I'm kind of torn.

Mike Gorday (50:12):
I think it's the stupidest idea ever well you
know if I can win a tournamentwith it.
If you're an online gamer, youalready know that cheating is
rampant in most games, so whynot add another one that is
state sponsored?
That's right all right.

Nathan Mumm (50:24):
Well, you know what ?
Let's go right now intospeaking of Microsoft, into the
Nathan Nugget.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
This is your Nugget of the Week.

Nathan Mumm (50:31):
All right, this is big news, all right, microsoft
is going to enter the handheldgame market.
No.
Xbox appears to have somethingon the works with a branding.
According to Windows Centrallast week, the device is
codenamed Kenan.
It's more PC-focused than theSteam Deck, but it's going to be

(50:52):
a portable device that will beproduced and possibly available
at the end in the fall month of2025.
Microsoft did not respond torequests for confirmation.
Xbox Phil Spencer, the mainchief, has previously discussed
creating a gaming handheld xxbox switch.
So so so this is what we know.

(51:13):
I got some insider informationbecause I've used to work at a
company called microsoft.
Um, so let me just tell youwhat we got.
I it looks like the tech timebelieves that either asus or
dell is the primary Microsoftpartner for this endeavor.
Windows has been negative forhandhelds, and the idea is to
create a new experience thatwould be able to compete with

(51:36):
what you consider the NintendoSwitch.
Right now, you could be able toplay games online.
Now, microsoft's spent a lot oftime with their entertainment
platforms coming on out with theability to stream games on
hosted servers, and this toolmay be the unit that allows you
to use the xbox cloud gamingplatform and the xbox play
anywhere platform.
So you don't need to haveanything on your device you

(51:58):
connect to a server that'shosted in the cloud and you play
your games that way.
Now I think that this will beannounced sometime nearing the
Summer Games Fest, which is inMay or June of this year, where
they will actually announce, asa company, that they're coming
on out with this portable device.

Mike Gorday (52:17):
Yeah, I feel like that's not going to work very
well.

Nathan Mumm (52:20):
Is what the target price?

Mike Gorday (52:21):
is $500 for this.

Nathan Mumm (52:23):
So the idea is they think that this will be kind of
like the Microsoft Series S.
That's more than a console.
Well, Xbox is also planning oncoming out with some new home
consoles.
So you know the Series X that'savailable there.
They expect next year to haveanother home device Series C.
That's what they may have.
All right, are you ready tohead over to Microsoft and have

(52:46):
your Nintendo Switch replaced?

Mike Gorday (52:47):
Yes, or no, I don't know over to Microsoft and have
your Nintendo Switch replaced,yes or no?
I don't know.
It's funny to me that businessis like hey, you know, we have
this part of the market and thensomebody comes over here and
puts this thing in and they gotthat part of the market and it
works, yeah.
And then they're like we wantthis part of the market too, so
we're going to develop a thingthat's gonna take this guy out.

(53:08):
Yeah, od, are you gonna?

Nathan Mumm (53:09):
replace your switch with a hell no no yeah, what do
you?

Mike Gorday (53:14):
what's what's?

Ody (53:14):
truly, I truly do not like playing on my xbox okay even
when I had one.
Okay, I'm I.
I much prefer the playstationor the nintendo.

Speaker 8 (53:26):
Like the, the Nintendo is my go-to.
But, now you can get out of ahandheld no I don't like the
functionality.

Ody (53:33):
I haven't seen it yet, obviously, but if it's anything
like Xbox, I don't like it.

Mike Gorday (53:46):
I was asking.
Odie, what she thought the Xboxversion of Animal Crossing
would be, would it not be?

Nathan Mumm (53:50):
like Sims Microsoft Zoo With animals.
Okay, you know what?

Ody (53:57):
There we go.
I'd love to see that and thenhave it be a technology fail for
when the Switch 2 comes out,because that'd be hilarious.
That would be Failure afterfailure.

Nathan Mumm (54:06):
Let's now move to our pick of the day whiskey
tasting.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.

Nathan Mumm (54:18):
All right, Mike.
What are you saying?
You're leading out here withthe taste.

Mike Gorday (54:21):
My lead is the Irish whiskey.

Marc Gregoire (54:25):
Okay, hang on, hang on the lead.
Oh, no, no, no, that's theAustralian, yeah, that's the
Australian.

Mike Gorday (54:31):
And then the Irish is second, and then I have the
Japanese third and the what wasthe last one?
Irish finish and rum barrels.
Irish finish and rum barrels.

Nathan Mumm (54:43):
So you're saying that this is your first
Australian?

Mike Gorday (54:45):
The Australian is my pick.

Nathan Mumm (54:47):
Well, actually, A is Canadian.
What is the down under forAustralia?

Marc Gregoire (54:52):
I don't know Cracky Mate.
I don't know Cracky.

Mike Gorday (54:54):
Mate, there you go All right, I need to watch a
little bit Cracky Mate.

Nathan Mumm (54:58):
Crocky, crocky, crikey, it's Crikey.

Mike Gorday (55:02):
It's Crikey.
Okay, my cracky Cracky.
Cracky is something you get onthe corner.

Marc Gregoire (55:09):
That was awkward, nathan.
All right, that's a littleawkward people, awkward day.

Nathan Mumm (55:16):
I'm between these two, also Awkward life.

Marc Gregoire (55:18):
So you're between the Irish whiskey, the true
Irish whiskey, and what's theother one glass that you?

Speaker 8 (55:25):
have.

Marc Gregoire (55:27):
The Australian On the Australian All right.

Mike Gorday (55:32):
Just pick the Australian, just so you can say
Cracky again.

Ody (55:36):
Do the placements matter, or is it just the number one?

Nathan Mumm (55:39):
Just the number one .

Ody (55:40):
Okay.

Nathan Mumm (55:41):
You know what?
I can go with the Australianfor number one Cracky, I can go.
The one and two are so close toeach other.
The only one I really don'twant is the japanese one.

Marc Gregoire (55:50):
so all right.
Well, so you guys are movingforward.
Starward nova single malt fromaustralia, finished in wine
barrels okay that was my numberfour.

Nathan Mumm (55:59):
That was the worst one for me okay, oh, you're not
a wall, you're not a maltwhiskey.

Marc Gregoire (56:04):
Well, a lot of these are malt, but that was,
that was the worst of malt mixedin with the worst of wine.
Really yeah oh, but I'm notpicking, okay my number one of
these was the uh, high-endwicked, the one finished.
The irish finished in rum.
Is that this one right here?

Nathan Mumm (56:19):
yes, in the rocks.
Oh, I kind of like this one too, though, so I was okay, that
was my number one.

Marc Gregoire (56:23):
My number two was the straight irish because that
was kind of neutral.
Okay me, because the pot stillkind of adds a little fun in
there.
The Japanese was very grainforward malty, but I was fine on
that, more so than theAustralian one, all right.

Speaker 8 (56:38):
You guys picked the wrong one.

Marc Gregoire (56:40):
You guys are not becoming connoisseurs, uh-oh.

Nathan Mumm (56:42):
But that's okay, it's your competition.
Mark's getting all mad at us.
No, Actually this is not really.

Marc Gregoire (56:48):
This one was one that I didn't really want to
pick a winner because, like yousaid, they're all really, except
for the four-square one, whichis 95% corn.
It's not in my wheelhouse.

Nathan Mumm (56:58):
We do want to thank our listeners for joining the
program.
Listeners, we want to hear fromyou.
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