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May 6, 2025 • 37 mins

Join DeShawn Snow and Skido in this enlightening episode of Ten Steps Ahead, where they dive deep into the nuances of relationships, personal growth, and navigating life's challenges. From discussing the importance of vulnerability in relationships to the complexities of balancing career and family, this episode is packed with insightful conversations and real-life experiences. Discover how Skido's journey from behind-the-scenes to being front-facing has shaped his perspective and how DeShawn is on a transformative wellness journey. Tune in for authentic dialogue, laughter, and relatable stories that remind us all that we are in this together. Don't forget to subscribe for more episodes!

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DeShawn (00:22):
Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of 10 Steps
Ahead. I'm your girl, DeShawnSnow, and we got

Skido (00:28):
Skido in the buildings. 10 Steps Ahead. Love that name,
man. I love

DeShawn (00:32):
it too.

Skido (00:32):
I love it, man. That's how I'm moving this game.

DeShawn (00:35):
How you doing?

Skido (00:35):
Man, I'm doing good, D. How are you?

DeShawn (00:37):
I'm doing well. I'm doing well.

Skido (00:39):
Last episode was crazy.

DeShawn (00:40):
It was crazy.

Skido (00:41):
I know we got a little deep a little bit. We're trying
to get

DeShawn (00:44):
it all out of it's good. You helped peel back the
layers. That's why I love doingthis with you because I'm so
comfortable with you anyway.

Skido (00:50):
Okay.

DeShawn (00:50):
You know, because anybody else, I wouldn't

Skido (00:52):
I believe

DeShawn (00:53):
be giving them anything.

Skido (00:54):
I'm I'm happy to

DeShawn (00:55):
be So you're my big brother and I know that you love
me, so

Skido (00:57):
Absolutely.

DeShawn (00:58):
Just coming from a place

Skido (00:58):
of I want you good, and I'm thankful we wanted to do
this podcast.

DeShawn (01:02):
Absolutely. You

Skido (01:03):
know, I'm not into that Hollywood shit too much, but I'm
around But

DeShawn (01:06):
now you're starting to get Yeah. And that's what we
could talk start it off with,you're starting to become in
front of the cameras. So, you'vealways worked behind the scenes,
putting people together, makingplays, putting deals together.
So now, you found yourself in acouple, like, fantastic
opportunities Yes. And it startit's causing you to become
forward facing.

Skido (01:27):
Yes.

DeShawn (01:28):
Public facing.

Skido (01:28):
Yes.

DeShawn (01:29):
So how is that transition, and and do you like
it?

Skido (01:35):
It's uncomfortable Yeah. Because I like to be
comfortable. And me outside yourcomfort zone. I I could go in
the front of a room and doanything and leave. The
uncomfortable is me being in theforefront and then everybody
coming around me Mhmm.
Because they want something orthey need to go some you know, I
like to I don't like that. Ilike to do be at my own pace.

(01:59):
Mhmm. I'm gonna be honest withyou. I I'm more I can be in a
room and tear it up, but I'mquick wanna go home.
Yeah. I go you know, events I goto, you know, meet parties. I
have this thing. I'm gonnaconfess it now since I'm about
to go on the forefront. So, whenI would go to events, I had this
thing.
Maybe I could use it. I wouldgo, y'all invite me? Yo, Skip,

(02:19):
why you never come to events?The red carpets and all that.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'll come.
And I would go, so I would do acircle and what up? What up? And
let everybody see me, and then Igo out the back door.

DeShawn (02:29):
There you go.

Skido (02:29):
I've been doing that for years. But because it's like
you're there, and I'm there fora check. Mhmm. Because the thing
that's on my mind is my kids.And then I'm always been like
that, you know, driven likethat.
Mhmm. Coming from zero andnothing.

DeShawn (02:42):
Right.

Skido (02:43):
And don't know how to turn that off. But let's share
it today. I I I'm learning howto balance it because in my
driven, I lost a lot. Right. Ilost.
Been in relationships, in andout of relationships, and I was,
you know, in in

DeShawn (03:00):
Because of your priorities. No.

Skido (03:01):
It's because I'm I don't because of the trauma of having
nothing Mhmm. And no stability

DeShawn (03:06):
mindset.

Skido (03:07):
I wanted I knew to sacrifice is to lose. Right. But
we sacrifice Time. It ain'tabout me no more. So, it's about
what I'm gonna leave for mydaughter and my son and all
that.
And, yeah, I missed out on a lotof stuff, but that was the
sacrifice of trying to besuccessful. Mhmm. The hours you
put in the travel and all ofthat, you know, and then that

(03:29):
hurt me. Yeah. So at the sametime, I I needed to took a long
time, but I had it was nobalance.
Yeah. And then you go intorelationships or let marriage
and it don't work because itdoesn't match my who I am.

DeShawn (03:43):
Have you ever been you have

Skido (03:44):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've been. Oh, you've been married?
Yeah. We could go there. Youtrying go there? I didn't know
that. Second last episode.
No.

DeShawn (03:49):
No. But I I honestly didn't know you've been married.

Skido (03:51):
Yeah. I've been married, man.

DeShawn (03:53):
How long were you married?

Skido (03:53):
I wasn't in it.

DeShawn (03:54):
Was it till your

Skido (03:56):
No. It was yeah. I'm a sound crazy because y'all think
it ain't what it is,

DeShawn (04:00):
but Okay.

Skido (04:00):
I got I got

DeShawn (04:01):
We want the tea.

Skido (04:02):
You want yeah. So I've been married twice. What?

DeShawn (04:06):
How do I not

Skido (04:07):
know this? But one was a real one. The other one was
suicide mission.

DeShawn (04:11):
What does that mean?

Skido (04:12):
I I didn't it was I was stupid. You know? I got married
because it was a girl thathappened and not that I I'm a
keep it a hundred. I we had ababy out of this situation

DeShawn (04:27):
Okay.

Skido (04:27):
But I love my children, but I didn't know her. You feel

DeShawn (04:31):
me? So you wanted to do the right thing.

Skido (04:32):
But then I wanted to do the right thing because at that
time, I tried to I wanted to tryto find you know, go to church
and do so she knew how tomanipulate the situation.
Uh-huh. But she knew I didn'tlove her. She knew a situation
where I'm keeping the baby. Ican't tell a woman what to keep
or not keep.
Right. So I'm like, oh, snap. Idon't know you. So but, if
you're gonna do it, then I'mgonna be a dad. But, know, I I

(04:55):
don't know you.
You know, we'd be in thosesituations, which is my
irresponsibility, of course. Butat that time, that was one of
the the worst, and I'm not gonnasay anything. But I don't speak

DeShawn (05:05):
against Oh, you can't say that's okay. I wouldn't even
ask you to.

Skido (05:08):
No. I the my baby's mom my kid's mom. I got two. But but
I now want no matter how bad itwas and toxic, she's still my
mother to my kids. So IAbsolutely.
Learned to reverse that, and Idon't I have nothing bad to say
about her because I still lovemy children, and that's their
mother.

DeShawn (05:28):
So how long were you married both times?

Skido (05:30):
That was the longest one was the that one was years. It
was Years. Four, five years. Butit was in and out leaving, and I
only kept coming back because ofmy son.

DeShawn (05:38):
Leaving, meaning leaving the marriage?

Skido (05:40):
I was in and out. I was traveling. Was doing it because
I wasn't in it. So because Iknew I didn't love her, it was
that it was it was

DeShawn (05:46):
And you didn't grow to love her?

Skido (05:47):
No. I couldn't. It was because I had loved somebody
else. Oh. But before that butshe was driven.
So it was a long it's a longstory.

DeShawn (05:53):
It's a triangle?

Skido (05:54):
Yeah. No. Triangle. It was before. She left

DeShawn (05:57):
to be

Skido (05:59):
career driven.

DeShawn (06:00):
Okay.

Skido (06:00):
And and I got prior, like, what's up? Because I was a
different dude back then. Youknow what I'm saying? You know,
God has changed me around indifferent ways. But I was
driven, and she left to do acareer in New York.
And I was like, well, if youleave it, you leave. But at that
same time, she didn't reallyleave. She went to New York and
she was hanging out with mymother. I didn't know all of
this. I was so stubborn, and Ihad a situation, and they did a

(06:22):
surprise party for me one timein New York, and I had my
business, this gym business, thefirst gym in Edgewater, Florida.
You know, I was learning when Igot to Florida, all these great
things started happening to me,working my way up. And when I
went to New York, and theysurprised, and she was there,
her mink coat, she was rich and,you know, beautiful and Italian,
and she was my mother, lovedher, she's Puerto Rican. But I

(06:44):
didn't know, I was like and thenthe girl I was with, she was
just riding up to New York withme to chill. It was just a
friend, I didn't touch her. Sowhen I said, yo, come upstairs,
I was surprised she's standingthere.
So I see my ex, and she's like,Yeah, we're coming home. I'll be
with your mother, and I'll youknow, I said, I don't know what
you're talking about.

DeShawn (07:02):
Oh, so you was

Skido (07:03):
in your And didn't even say it. I was so prideful. I'm
gonna tell you this dumb story.I said, my mother looked at me,
my mama ain't here till shesaid, Come here, mosquito. What
are you doing?
Because I don't know who you'retalking about. You're being hard
headed and you're gonna mess up.Don't do it. But I was so hurt
from her leaving. Oh.
At that moment, I wasn't hearingnothing. So in that moment, I
was mad and I I just let her,like, I don't know. So she was

DeShawn (07:26):
So you fumbled?

Skido (07:27):
Yeah. I fumbled because I was acting hard headed. Yeah.
And my mother knew what you'retalking about. And my cousin
Tony, who you meet, he's crazy.

DeShawn (07:33):
Yeah. Love Tony.

Skido (07:34):
You know, he's like, yo. Because she was rich or
whatever. She's like, because Idon't care about money and I
don't care about she's like,he's like, yo, we out the hood.
It's because. He's like,hilarious.
You know, Tony. Yeah. Like,because, I don't care about
that. I got a girl. Andeverybody's looking at her.
We never heard of this girl, butI just used that to her So,

DeShawn (07:50):
was that the second wife, the girl you was talking
about?

Skido (07:52):
Yeah. That's the one. The last one I had was I messed that
up. That was the one mydaughter, Rose. She

DeShawn (07:58):
was a

Skido (07:59):
good woman.

DeShawn (08:00):
But now, so now you're not married, but you are in

Skido (08:03):
a I'm in a great relationship.

DeShawn (08:05):
Yeah. I love Mia.

Skido (08:06):
This this you know, I don't know why I'm on here.
Don't want her to get emotionalshit. But at the end of the day,
she she we was friends, but ittook a break because I had my
youngest son, it was like it'slike you said, a traditional
generational curse. Mhmm. And Isaw myself from my last one, son
Mateo, you know, that's my baby,he's six, that I'm doing this

(08:29):
pattern of getting intorelationships, and and then I
have a kid, and they'd be like,yo, but then I love kids.
Yeah. So I'm like but after thatdidn't work out, because I was
still driven and she was used tobeing she needed somebody home,
like a nine to five, that's notme. Yeah. So, me being gone, she
just couldn't take that. And itjust happened.

(08:50):
She's a great mother

DeShawn (08:51):
Mhmm.

Skido (08:51):
School teacher. So, that's my I said, okay, this got
that's it. So, I went I went Idid a what we call that? I'm
sorry.

DeShawn (08:59):
Fast.

Skido (09:00):
I did a fast, and then I I was celibate celibate. That's
the word? Mhmm. Yeah. Fast.
I did that for a year a year,and then at that time, when I
didn't no sex, no nothing, thisshit started to go, my business.
This shit was crazy. But I was

DeShawn (09:17):
so locked

Skido (09:19):
in that it was it was like, I didn't the time wasn't I
didn't see time or concentratedon sex. Because I didn't want to
just lay with nobody no more.

DeShawn (09:28):
Mhmm.

Skido (09:28):
Because when you do that shit, it pulls something out of
you, which we call it a soultie. Yes. That's why people are
acting crazy because they'resleeping around all these
different people. Facts. You'repulling for her craziness, he's
pulling for so every soul youlay down with is becoming part
of you.
And what happens is you startacting a fool. That's why people
can't get out of that.

DeShawn (09:46):
Yeah. That's a cycle.

Skido (09:47):
So, I had to fast. So, when I fast, I eliminate. And I
said, God, the next person youbring in my life, please let it
be the one, because I'm offdriven, it gotta make sense.
Mhmm. And then I just went off afad for a year.
In that time, Mia was already wewas all friends, So, we already
knew each other, and it justhappened organically. Know what
I'm saying?

DeShawn (10:06):
That's the best. Was But

Skido (10:10):
I'm still off balance. I'm hard to deal with. Say
things, and I think it's I thinkI got I know I do, I got a lot
of trauma, everybody know that.I confess it. I know they said
that CTE when football plays andall, I got that too, I know I
got that I got a lot of stuff.
So, my impulses of how I talk,you could be offended. But I'm

(10:31):
really it's nothing, it's justat that moment

DeShawn (10:33):
It's a program.

Skido (10:34):
It's just something I'm trying to

DeShawn (10:36):
Break.

Skido (10:36):
Break, but I can't control it. And then but I don't
like to be messed with, I don'tlike to be I like my own way
sometimes, and, you know, littlethings. So it's So

DeShawn (10:45):
you gotta be a special person to deal

Skido (10:47):
with You gotta be different. You gotta have a
personality, and you can't besensitive with me. But when you
hear me, you'll laugh like,dude, what the f did you just
say to me? I'm like, listen, didI you talk too much. So I'll
just say things, people like, inthe middle of a conversation,
and I'll be like, is she like,are you listening to me?
I'm like, no, because my youburning my ears, man. I can't

(11:08):
focus. So you usually try to besensitive to those things. So
she cracks up. So and there's alot of things, you know, we
battled and stuff.
But I did you know, one time,she'll tell a story, I left her.
I left because she was she wasbothering me while I was trying
to eat my strawberry puff.Right? So, I'm eating my puff.

(11:28):
This is true story.
You guys are my family. So I'meating my puff, and we getting
along with each other. It'scute. Now, this friend's thing
is different. She's like this.
So she got this little expensivecouch, real expensive. So you
know the puff stuff drops on

DeShawn (11:41):
the Oh, her couch. Does she get charged You

Skido (11:43):
know, I start wiping it. I got manners. You know, I'm
wiping it. And she's like, sothis is what we're doing? I'm
like, what?
She's like, so you're just gonnawipe it? So I'm like, I don't
know this side of her. I'm like,man, I'm sorry. I'm trying to
enjoy this puck because when I'mhungry, I'm off. You know, I
gotta eat.

DeShawn (12:00):
Yes. I know.

Skido (12:00):
Don't bother me when I'm eating. Let me eat before we do
anything. So she wiping. I'mlike, damn, being so nice. You
know, I'm I'm real cool.
Like, what's that? That's Yeah,you're real cool. But it is,
it's very expensive, know whatI'm And she just went into this
little thing. Now

DeShawn (12:13):
It could have been a trigger.

Skido (12:15):
One yeah. But that trigger's got nothing to do.
Don't bring that trigger shit tome. And I cut, I said, oh, okay.
She started talking, all of asudden, she started going,
that's me.
I'll act like you ain't there.I'm good at that shit. I looked
at her, said, really? I enjoyedmy puff. I ate the rest of that
thing.
It was crumming. I'm wiping it,and I got quiet. And this was at

(12:35):
the beginning, and she's like,you know, she okay, okay. She
just you know, sometimes. Isaid, didn't I tell you don't
mess with me?
Don't I'm not I'm different. I'mnot that I'm a good dude, but
you can't do it with I can't Idon't know how to do that. Yeah.
So, fast forward, she did it,and the next day I didn't say
nothing the whole day, and I satthere, and my plane was at 5PM.

(12:58):
I went to the airport at 11:00.

DeShawn (13:00):
In a morning?

Skido (13:00):
She goes, Can I take you to the airport? Know, the next
day you act like you're not in anormal. I'm like, no. So you're
just gonna go to the airport andwait in there for six hours?
Absolutely.
To get the hell away from you.That's keto. I don't give a shit
about none of that shit. I didthat. In her mind so I'm
thinking I'm back in the labchilling.
So I guess she's like, how canthis thing did grow. She's

(13:23):
calling her friends and allthat. That's what she's telling
me. Yeah. She said this and shesaid, they were like, Mia, he
don't give a shit who you are,what you got.
Because she's a powerfulattorney, she's money you got,
man's a man. He sent over thecocoa puff, the strawberry puff,
I'm out of here. He ain't withthat shit. And that's what

(13:44):
you've been looking for. Heain't gonna tolerate that shit
because iron sharpens iron.
Yeah. And that's what we do. Youknow what I'm saying? And and
and in that case, I left and Itried to get rid of her, and she
made a call, and she said, knowwhat And five days she it was
five days later, she thought Iwas gonna call her. I'm done.
She called myself.

DeShawn (14:03):
Just like that.

Skido (14:03):
Oh, you didn't call me because I'm done. And then
that's what happened. And thenshe came and got me and

DeShawn (14:10):
The rest of the

Skido (14:11):
she said, okay. Can I come see you? Said, nah. I was
trying to cut her off. She waslike, she was weaving, ducking
and weaving.
I'm trying I don't think it'sgonna work. She flew down the
next day, she put you know howy'all do? Y'all put on a little
bodysuit and shit, you know,came all sexy, all her hair
done. I said, what kind of catwoman shit is this going on? She
came out the thing like agoddess.

(14:31):
I'm like, alright. We can talk.And then I I I've been with her
ever since.

DeShawn (14:35):
Oh, man. That's beautiful.

Skido (14:37):
Yeah. I sit on that. But it's more crazy. But we're going
through our trials andtribulations.

DeShawn (14:41):
It's learning.

Skido (14:42):
It's communication. She's hard. She been through shit with
bullshit people and a lot ofstuff she's hurt from. Mhmm. And
then I'm I'm Skeeto.
Because I'm like, y'all don'tcompare me to that and who they
are.

DeShawn (14:53):
That's true.

Skido (14:53):
I'm not and when you start doing that, it

DeShawn (14:55):
offends Skeeto.

Skido (14:56):
But I had to bring the offensive down.

DeShawn (14:58):
Yeah. Because that person I learned

Skido (14:59):
to be a little bit more sensitive.

DeShawn (15:01):
And graceful.

Skido (15:01):
That's the stuff I've been working. Yeah. Being more
sensitive to people.

DeShawn (15:05):
And so did you find that she had a guard up? Because
I know you always say, I have aguard up.

Skido (15:09):
She said she didn't, and then when she got triggered, it
would come up. But I would butI'm such a real person, I don't
hold nothing in my head. Ican't, it'll build up, I go
crazy. So I'm like, you do. Soshe'll argue with it, like how
you was dancing around the otherday, and I'll go

DeShawn (15:22):
I'll some dancing.

Skido (15:23):
No, no, you know, kick know what I'm talking about,
what you want me? But I I'm likethis, no, that's what it is. And
I'm not gonna I'm not scared totell you anything because it's
real, it's in front of me. Yeah.And then she couldn't face that
to the point where she's, I'mokay, when you wasn't okay.

DeShawn (15:38):
Yeah.

Skido (15:39):
So, she broke that. Yeah. She started breaking up.

DeShawn (15:41):
So she started feeling comfortable and she trusted you
and all that and let the guarddown.

Skido (15:44):
Yeah. People took advantage of her, people used to
you know, that happens. And andyou know that, and that hurt
her. Yeah. And she was hurt.
And that how we deal withouthurt, we try to bury and say we
okay when it's a lie.

DeShawn (15:54):
Well, it takes a long time.

Skido (15:55):
It takes a long time. So, we went through our things, but
she could deal with me, and myfamily loves her. She went to
the wedding, had Puerto Ricanand black on both sides, and
they came telling me, don't messit up. My family's just like me,
the girls are stronger than thedudes, you know what I'm saying?
And I was like, what?
I didn't even she's like, don'tmess with me. Love Mia. So, that
was a good sign. My kids loveher, and she she she's and I met

(16:18):
her Her family's beautiful. AndI needed a family oriented
person because I'm really aboutfamily.
Yeah. I'm really about family.And then when I'm your friend, I
treat you like family. Yep. Thatpeople know me, you know, on
that note.

DeShawn (16:30):
So, because we were you and I were talking about, like,
as you say, I'm rough around theedges. Mhmm. I see myself as
refined. But you said and Idon't think I have my guard up,
but you say that I do, or yousay that you can because

Skido (16:45):
you asked me. I didn't start

DeShawn (16:47):
talking about No, said something to Yes. Because I
always come to you. Yeah.Because I ask you the questions
like, well, what's what is thisguy thinking, what does this
mean? Because I can't figure itout.
And I ask you, because you aman, and I know you'll tell me
the truth, and you tell me thetruth.

Skido (17:00):
Well, what you mean by so you have these situations, what
you mean? What you mean, whatthis mean?

DeShawn (17:04):
Well, like, we were talking about.

Skido (17:05):
No. Now, forget what we talking about. Yeah. What they
what what was he talking about?What was he

DeShawn (17:09):
No, but you were saying that I have a guard up. Mhmm.
And I feel that I don't have aguard up. Okay. So, you tell me,
like, why do you sense that Ihave a guard up?
Because I feel like, remember Itold you, I feel like, if I'm
smiling and, you know, that'slike invite, I'm inviting you,
like, to say You

Skido (17:24):
know the same with you ever see somebody smile at you
and they're looking at you likethey hate you?

DeShawn (17:29):
But are you saying

Skido (17:29):
That that it's tough I could do this. That's that.

DeShawn (17:32):
That's what I'm doing? That's

Skido (17:34):
because you just you just try to use your teeth to block
everything else. And you gotbeautiful teeth, but what we
feel as men is one anotherthing.

DeShawn (17:43):
So I'm excluding

Skido (17:44):
blocking what's on you. You know what I'm saying? You
got your beauty from theoutside, but it's it's almost
it's not like it's fake, it'slike it's rough. It's like
something you hiding. It's it'ssomething as a man, we have
different instincts.

DeShawn (17:57):
Mhmm.

Skido (17:58):
So it's like it's like, what the fuck is going on?
What's wrong with her? I see herTV shining, she's beautiful, but
she got still a look of a cold,like like, if you mess with me,
I'll bust you on your knee, like

DeShawn (18:10):
That's that's what I'm giving.

Skido (18:12):
I told you that. You wanna keep it real. What you
talking about?

DeShawn (18:15):
Because I just can't see myself giving that.

Skido (18:16):
And I think that that part is a lot of women out there
like that. Not that you ready,but you gotta there's there's
still a a kind of a wall, ashield up.

DeShawn (18:25):
Like, try

Skido (18:26):
So so men, they feel some men, I don't give a shit. Some
people, they're good men thatare strong like me that don't
care, could fight through thewall. But that's like not a lot.

DeShawn (18:35):
It's not a lot because it's not like it's a lot of

Skido (18:37):
people. But you with that wall, it's gonna be like, well,
you get them on eggshellsalmost. Even though you're
showing your teeth, they stillfeeling that. It don't feel
comfortable for them to keep togo over. I'm not saying you keep
thinking it's you, but that'sthe one part I could say I feel.

DeShawn (18:52):
Yeah. No, so that's helpful because I wasn't aware
of that. Like, I feel like Idon't have a wall. I feel like I
do I feel like I'm open.

Skido (19:02):
Okay. You can feel what you want. Tell me what it is.

DeShawn (19:04):
I feel like that I am open, though. Yeah. You know
what saying?

Skido (19:07):
What you're doing, you're feeling it, but you But

DeShawn (19:11):
I'm not exuding it, so I don't really know how to
change So

Skido (19:13):
you ask me, as your brother, you go, Yo, Ski, tell
me from that perspective, thenI'm giving you from the man's
perspective what I feel and see.So I'm like, it ain't make it
ain't make a lot of you thinkall men are confident.

DeShawn (19:26):
Not all men are Yeah, that's what I'm interested. You
said, you'll you'll tackle thewall or whatever. Like, I'm I'm
not that's what I want, somebodyI mean, I don't want to give up
the wall. I mean, I don't wantto have a wall up, so I will
figure out figure that out.

Skido (19:39):
I know. No. What it is is what you want might not be the
same thing. Like, you know,everything you ask for is that
God's gonna bring you what youyou can say what you want, but
he's gonna give you what youneed.

DeShawn (19:48):
Right.

Skido (19:48):
But you gotta define what you know, if start putting
people in categories and youstart, oh, well, want that oh,
that's not right. I'm gonna dothis. You're it's already like
it's too much. Mhmm. So, youknow, in the midst of that, it's
too much.
Man, feel that. It's just toomuch. It's heavy on Yeah. You
give a look. You got this look,d.
When you look, that look. Thatthat look to the side. My mother

(20:11):
used to give me that look. Ithought I was in trouble. Right?
She was like, but that was adifferent look. That look, I'm a
bust you in your mouth if yousay another word. You got that
no, that's what my mother usedto have that look. But you got
that look where you could betalking to somebody and you just
lean and you don't see it. Thatmight be the Detroit in you.
I don't know.

DeShawn (20:27):
No. Maybe because I am like, it depends on what they're
saying, I guess. Yeah. If I seepast the BS.

Skido (20:33):
Yeah. But it's cool. You know, it's just you just

DeShawn (20:34):
I wanna work on that.

Skido (20:35):
Yeah. Because I don't want And you're doing good. I
wanna

DeShawn (20:37):
be open.

Skido (20:38):
Yeah. You're doing good. I feel like I have Yeah. You're
around good people. You gotsupport.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying?But everything is good.

DeShawn (20:44):
Okay.

Skido (20:45):
Yeah, man. But, you know, let's get to this topics and

DeShawn (20:47):
stuff, man.

Skido (20:48):
Let's ride this

DeShawn (20:48):
So let's talk about some hot topics. What about I
know I mean, we're not gonna begiving a lot of names, but
clearly you are, like,everybody's man, you know what
I'm saying? In terms of, like,celebrity, you know, everybody's
your boy, you've got

Skido (21:00):
this Not everybody, but I know

DeShawn (21:01):
you're for most part, all the major people, you're in
the behind the scenes orwhatever. So, let's talk about
some of the stuff that's goingon

Skido (21:08):
in The

DeShawn (21:09):
thing going on? Okay. What do you I know you're real
good with Rock Nation.

Skido (21:13):
Okay. Yeah.

DeShawn (21:15):
It felt

Skido (21:15):
It's like family, like, it's they're good people.

DeShawn (21:17):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you think about so
Kanye, you know, clearly he'soff his meds. Uh-huh.
So I guess he was talking aboutJay Z and Beyonce's kids, which
is always a no no, you nevertalk about somebody's kids.
Mhmm. How do you feel aboutthat? Because do you because you
you know, that's family.

Skido (21:31):
So Yeah. Well, that's how Jay feel about that at the end
of the day. Me? I I I don't playthat. I clear all that up on,
you know, I don't play don'tever play with me with my kids.
Right. All bets are off. Sothat's things you don't do.
There's things you don't playwith people's family, their
mother, you know, you don't dothat. I don't care what meds

(21:52):
he's on.
He's doing this thing forattention. Me personally, on
sight, he getting knocked out.Not I don't play like that. And
then you bringing me back to awhole and everybody know, do not
play with me like that. So Iknow but Jay gotta watch.
I know Jay probably sayingon-site, I wanna punch him in
his mouth, but but he's an icon,he gotta watch it. You know what

(22:13):
I'm saying? And Kanye knowsthat. And Kanye's a genius, and
I love Kanye. I love all see howI clear that up?
It's not about hate. Mhmm. Butdon't play like that. Mhmm.
Because when people were playingwith your kids, you went off.

DeShawn (22:25):
Yeah.

Skido (22:26):
So now you twisting it, you're being a hypocrite. So
it's and I like, I love hisgenius. God bless him. I hope
God delivers him. But don'tdon't do what you don't want
done to your kids.

DeShawn (22:35):
Right.

Skido (22:36):
And that's the line you don't cross, and there's no
coming back for it.

DeShawn (22:38):
There's no grace.

Skido (22:40):
There's no which are you crazy? You don't play with you
don't know

DeShawn (22:43):
what you're dealing No, I'm kids crossing the line.

Skido (22:44):
You understand?

DeShawn (22:45):
Okay. Alright. So, tell me about because, you know, we
kind of talked about this. Idon't know about it. Big U?
Something about somebody gottapay money when they come to LA?
What's all that about?

Skido (22:56):
What's going on with the thing with Big U? I don't

DeShawn (22:59):
know him,

Skido (22:59):
but he's out the LA?

DeShawn (23:00):
Yes. It says somebody gotta check-in. The athletes and
stuff gotta check-in. I like, Inever

Skido (23:06):
heard of that. You never heard of checking in? No. Yeah.
Didn't.

DeShawn (23:08):
Like, I don't think my ex checked in.

Skido (23:11):
Why would you think your man's gonna tell you, I gotta
check-in with another man?There's some things men ain't
gonna tell their women.

DeShawn (23:17):
Yeah. I just never heard

Skido (23:18):
Like, check-in is in LA, they have this thing. I never I
don't know what that is to me.To me, I don't go by those
rules.

DeShawn (23:25):
Right.

Skido (23:25):
Not that I'm not tough or none. I just don't move like
that. But these basketballplayers and these athletes that
wanna be tough and they wannaclaim blood, and this is when
they get trapped in it. Nowyou're dealing with some real
gangsters out there. So sinceyou wanna represent my set, now
you gotta pay a fee.
You understand? Oh, Chris, youare blood? Oh, little Wayne, you

(23:45):
are blood. You see how theycatching them. This is this is
something I'm saying, this islive.
Mhmm. But I know these people.You know what I'm saying? Mhmm.
I know Chico Brown, and they'refrom These are friends of mine.
Don't associate with that, butthese are my people. I know the
rules. There's rules in LA,there's rules in New York,
there's rules in Chicago. And ifyou claim it sets and gangs, and

(24:07):
they're going to bring you inthat gang, oh, you cutting a
check. That's why you see thesecelebrities and athletes running
around like tough guys, butthey're paying the fee.
They're not going to tell youthat, that's called checking.
And when these rappers go tothese shows, they they extort
who they could extort. Notsaying they got everybody like
that. Yeah. You ain't got no Jaylike that.
You ain't got no Fat Joe likethat. Right. Because they they

(24:29):
get down like everybody else wasaround them. I know that. You
know what I'm saying?
You ain't gotta have me. I'llget down as different. There's
you ain't checking me. But thesewannabes, and they wanna be
down, and they wanna claim bloodand crips and blues and reds and
blacks, you gotta pay a fee forthat.

DeShawn (24:45):
I didn't even because I heard about it, but I was like,
that sound like a movie.

Skido (24:48):
No. That's for real. That's going down now. If Big U
ain't gonna do it, it's gonna besomebody else doing it. Got
Because there's always somebodytrying to be something they're
not, and that's when you'll betrapped in your own circle.

DeShawn (24:58):
Facts.

Skido (24:58):
And that's what goes on with these celebrities and
rappers. They wanna be aroundkillers when they're not a
killer.

DeShawn (25:19):
Gonna be forward facing in front of the camera. Yeah.
And so so to speak, camera. Buthow do you how do you handle
when people who was you'realways giving love, showing
love, supporting, and then nowthat you're in front, for the
people that's not supporting.

Skido (25:35):
Oh, that's gonna happen. But the thing I love about me
and people that know me, I don'tlive for people, because they
don't there's and I'm not sayingthis in a bad I'm not a people
pleaser. Yeah. I'm zero that.Even my me and said, oh my god,
you're really the opposite ofthat.
But I don't so what what I don'tI don't have I don't have a

(25:55):
people pleaser mentality, sonothing doesn't bother me. I
expect what people are gonna do.You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
With success comes love andhate.
But either way, I still don'tcare. Mhmm. Skeeto's still gonna
do Skeeto. Yeah. Long as it'snot personal with me or you
messing with my family, it'scool.
You know what saying?

DeShawn (26:12):
But what if it's somebody's close? I mean, you
wouldn't hurt your Yeah. Yeah.

Skido (26:16):
That that's their insecurity and don't spirits,
they deal with jealousy, envy,strife. Those are demons in
them. I don't deal entertain thedevil like that.

DeShawn (26:24):
But do you get hurt? I guess maybe because

Skido (26:25):
you're a I'm not built like that.

DeShawn (26:27):
Yeah.

Skido (26:27):
That's the other thing. I don't get hurt, but I'm I'm
learning to be sensitive.

DeShawn (26:31):
Okay.

Skido (26:32):
You know I'm saying? So, what bothers you don't bother
me. What hurts him don't hurtme. Mhmm. Because I'm it's like
that.
Now, if you personally attackingme, you coming at me, then
that's a different situation I'ma deal with you like. But when
you freedom to speak across thestreet, okay, he's over there.
He's on the Internet. Can'tcontrol what you can't control.

DeShawn (26:51):
Yeah. No, that's a good way.

Skido (26:53):
You know

DeShawn (26:53):
I'm saying? I'm looking at things.

Skido (26:54):
That's just how I am. God bless America.

DeShawn (26:56):
Amen. So, also, what's big about you, and I see it all
the time, is like the power ofrelationships.

Skido (27:03):
Yeah. Yeah.

DeShawn (27:04):
I think a lot of people don't realize, you know, they
want what's in front of them,they don't see the big picture.
Yeah. And sometimes it's notabout, like, the deal that's
right there on the table, it'sabout establishing a
relationship

Skido (27:15):
Absolutely.

DeShawn (27:15):
And all of that. So speak to how you've gotten all
your success because of yourrelationships, or how you
utilize relationships.

Skido (27:23):
I think relationship I I move like that. So if I take a
relationship, you know, I'mhelping people. You know, like,
if it's let's say Even value.I'm becoming an athlete or
something, I'm there. Sometimes,no matter how good you are,
somebody's always thinkingsomething wrong.
Why are you doing this? What doyou want? I get that, because
people take advantage it. I'mnot that. So, I I I kind of show

(27:45):
them before I do anything.
Let me show you what I do, thenwe'll talk about whatever later.
Because then when you show themand how you move, it's more of a
trust understanding. Mhmm. Youknow what saying? So, I like to

DeShawn (27:55):
So, it's not just talk.

Skido (27:56):
I don't do all the talk, I bring them straight to the
table. Mhmm. And then, that talkis different after you do that.
Like, ski, a lot of people wastalking, but you did it. That's
what put me in this position,now that I'm saying I'm coming
out, being a stellar this newshoe that's coming out, this new
croc that's about to hit theairwaves this And all I can't
the next episode's gonna becrazy.
When I tell you who's lined upwith it, the celebrities that's

(28:19):
part of this shoe, this Japanesedesigner that came, first thing
I did, I said, this is out ofhere. So I feel like I'm I'm
part of the new group likeFacebook and Bill Gates, you
know that circle? I said, God, Imust have did something right,
because now I got this Japanesedesigner who who I'm now his
right hand man. Was hisconsultant becoming a CEO. It

(28:40):
leads like that.
And that's from putting on thework and giving my heart to
everybody through the years. Ifeel it's just my time. And
you're reaping it. And I'mreaping

DeShawn (28:47):
Mhmm. This is your takeover phase.

Skido (28:49):
This is my takeover thing. You know what saying? And
on that note, just like you,with your takeover thing, I just
want you to you know, me, youworking on what's what's you
working on? You know, the thingsyou was telling me about. Tell
me about that.
See, I'm hype but see me, I'malways feeling it and I always
wanna hear it too. That'sbecause it makes me happy to see
other people happy. But tell me,you're new and approved self,

(29:09):
slim rock. You're on your cutripped. I'm like

DeShawn (29:12):
I'm big on this wellness journey, because, know,
for about thirteen months, I wasI've lost about fifty fifty one
pounds. Wow. A little bit morethan 50 pounds. But, you know,
my all my numbers were throughthe roof, like my blood
pressure, my cholesterol, hadabnormal EKG and all this stuff.
You know, EJ just got married.

Skido (29:28):
Okay.

DeShawn (29:29):
So I knew he was getting married, and was like,
you know, I wanna have somegrandkids and all of that, so I
gotta take this serious. So mymotivation if your why is big
enough, you'll endure anyhow. Somy why was my health. I've been
up and down in weight all thetime my whole life. So but this
time, you know, my why isstronger.
So I went on this journey, and Ilove it. And so now, I'm at the

(29:51):
maintaining stage, but now I'mbuilding and I'm doing my core
you know, I'm strengthening mycore and all that. But what I'm
doing is trying to inspireothers. So, I think by sharing
my journey, they're beinginspired by it to do to make
changes for themselves as well.So, it's not about being a size,
it's just about being the mosthealthiest you can be.
Okay.

Skido (30:08):
And it's

DeShawn (30:08):
not about being skinny, it's about being strong. So I'm
big into the weight training andall that. So I'm gonna do these
exclusive workout meetups, thesewellness retreats. Like, I'm I'm
all in on it, because I thinkhealth is wealth. Okay.
And really mind, body, soul.

Skido (30:20):
Okay. So what so and then okay. So all of that, and then
we go into so you preppingyourself for your new man, and
you're like

DeShawn (30:28):
Yeah. Always. Always. Yeah. So I I feel I am a wife.
Mhmm. You know what I'm saying?I don't know why I've not been
married yet again. But I think

Skido (30:37):
Well, this is why we're

DeShawn (30:38):
not say anything. All these reasons why. In my mind, I
don't know, but I guess there'sreasons. But that's okay. God
has the right person for me, theright timing.

Skido (30:48):
So let me ask you something. You and your boss
things and all that. What areyou look mean, besides the
health of wealth, which ishealthy, because people be
unbalanced based on how they'reeating and doing that. That's
true. Right?
But you got some business thingsand some ideas and shows that
you're creating that's gonna Oh,yeah. For sure. Mhmm. You know,
talk about that. What's I mean,you got some ideas I know you
got because you've been on thereality show.
Constantly pitch. I got

DeShawn (31:09):
a lot of ideas Yeah. That's coming. Real estate
because I'm in real estate,know, I'm a global real estate
adviser, so I got a lot ofthings that we're pitching. So
you'll hopefully see me on thestage. But it's all about
lifestyle and wellness.

Skido (31:20):
Okay.

DeShawn (31:21):
Everything relating to that.

Skido (31:22):
So you got your you got so I'm gonna ask you something.
Okay. So you got we in a sportsgame. Your son plays football,
right? Yep.
And I and I've been working witha lot of NFL young kids coming
out, and I'm trying to teachthem how to be CEOs and brands
because they only know football.How do you get them for the next
level? All the politics in theindustry is the same as the
sports. Absolutely. I mean, it'sbad.

(31:42):
You know what it is. How do youprotect them? What do you think
about that?

DeShawn (31:45):
So he's really, really close with his father. Okay. And
so, like, I'm not even involvedin that aspect of it. Okay. I
they he that is his right handman, so Okay.
He doesn't share most most ofit, but I know he has a good
head on his shoulders. Darius isvery driven. So even though he
has another year left ofeligibility, he already has his

(32:05):
master's. Wow. So he graduatedwith his undergrad in three
years and then got his master'stwo years later.
Wow. This is his last season. Hehad that injury, so this is he's
back and he's healthy, so thisis his year, so we're excited
about it. But, Darius is veryfocused, he's, he's had a strong
foundation as far as his faithand all of that, so he'll be
fine. But he's moving in thosethings now, So I know he's

(32:28):
dealing with the with the NILand all that

Skido (32:30):
Oh, yeah.

DeShawn (32:30):
And the politics of it all.

Skido (32:31):
Okay. So dad's teasing me

DeShawn (32:33):
Dad is like, I can't even get

Skido (32:34):
in because they have I got it. I that. You mom, that's
cool. But he he been in thegame, so that's good.

DeShawn (32:39):
Yeah. So I'll be trying to

Skido (32:40):
find You know what I wanted to ask you? I know I'm
not we're not political here.

DeShawn (32:43):
Mhmm. Absolutely.

Skido (32:44):
But, what do you feel about our new president, Donald
Trump?

DeShawn (32:46):
I don't feel anything. I don't I don't what like, so my
family like, we have these groupchats and they I have two people
in my family, they would go downa rabbit hole always sending all
this stuff. I'm like, yo, y'allset your own group chat with
that, because it's just he's toomuch. Okay. I don't I don't
agree with the stuff he's a lotof stuff he's doing.
So, I mean, but I do realize Ido need to pay attention so I

(33:07):
can know what's going on, but Ijust I can't even stand to look
at him. Don't even watch him.

Skido (33:12):
I got you. I I I like Donald Trump.

DeShawn (33:15):
You do?

Skido (33:15):
Yeah. I do. I like him. Not the crazy stuff. Yeah.
This is this is

DeShawn (33:20):
the What about all this cutting department education and
all that

Skido (33:23):
other stuff? Let me let me give you the breakdown

DeShawn (33:24):
of Headstart.

Skido (33:25):
Of how why I like Donald Trump. Okay. Let's go back

DeShawn (33:28):
Okay.

Skido (33:28):
To 911, where I'm in New York City. Right?

DeShawn (33:31):
That's right. Okay.

Skido (33:32):
So I have friends and family that friends that have
friends that have died in So yougotta picture this. So when that
when when the terrorist attackhit New York, it was the most
saddest lost thing in the world.I can see the Twin Towers from
my grandmother's house on 128Allen Street in New York City. I
grew up on that fire escapewatching that in rainy days.

(33:53):
When people would jump in thefire and holding hands and and
hitting the floor, it washorrible.

DeShawn (33:58):
Yeah.

Skido (33:58):
It made me so angry. But at that time, it was a lot of
politics with differentpresidents. I felt that was very
bold by these other countries.And I felt our presidents are
more negotiating with them,being nice, and the other
countries don't respect us. AndI know, I think they've all been
too soft, and that's why theywere able to do all this

(34:20):
terrorist attack.
They crossed lines and then diddeals with these people. I'm not
jumping the gun. So now, I knowDonald's off, he's a
billionaire. I liked him beforehe was a president because
people thought he was funny, hewas straight out. You don't tell
him what to do.
Mhmm. But when I see him monkeygripping that, walking in the
thing and pushing that dudebehind him, man, get behind me.

(34:42):
Strong arming them otherleaders, that's a different
that's America coming back. NotI'm not I'm not in agreeing on
his ways, but we're not soft.Mhmm.
They crossed lines. They've beencrossing lines with other
presidents. Donald's stoppingall that. You ain't gonna come
do what you wanna do and I wishyou would. We've always been the
toughest in the country.
We became the softest. So meprotecting what's mine, my

(35:06):
country

DeShawn (35:06):
No.

Skido (35:07):
Hold is that. Now, do I agree with a lot of crazy?
Donald just say crazy stuff, butdo I like how the when the other
country and president thinktwice before they mess with us
Mhmm. Because they know Donaldis gonna go will get in their
ass. That's the part I like.

DeShawn (35:22):
Okay.

Skido (35:23):
You feel me? To protect us. See, y'all caught up in
rights and wrongs, but theysending terrorist attacks trying
to kill us. So y'all caught upon the little things, and
Donald's like, man, get behindme. You see him in them things.
He said, what's wrong withDonald? He tripping, he pushing
the president, grabbing theirhands like that? That's like man
up type. You're not gonna dowhat you're gonna do with the
mother presidents. I wish youwould do something.

(35:45):
That's the part I love aboutDonald. Now, the other stuff,
I'm like, needs it. He crazy.But protecting us, and and on
that right, of these peoplecrossing lines, I'm still mad
about that nine one one.

DeShawn (35:57):
Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that

Skido (35:59):
you No, even that's for us. It ain't just New York. For
sure. That's for all of us. Youknow what I'm saying?
That hit our economy. That thatwas a mark.

DeShawn (36:06):
I remember it.

Skido (36:07):
We don't give a shit about y'all. They they never
crossed that much line over. Wedidn't you know, I'm not saying
nothing's wrong or right. Theywas they hit the maker. Yeah.
And that was you what I'msaying? So down that part.

DeShawn (36:20):
Okay.

Skido (36:20):
You know what I'm saying? But we got a lot of stuff.

DeShawn (36:22):
Real good.

Skido (36:22):
Yes. This is the warm up thing, but when we're get one or
two more episodes, when we getthese guests coming, these
celebrities, it's gonna becrazy.

DeShawn (36:30):
Crazy, crazy. Because we're all about you know, we
want the stories behind thestories. Yes. And we're all
about because our journeys aredifferent, but it's still the
same, and we're all aboutrestoration and redemption.

Skido (36:40):
Yeah.

DeShawn (36:40):
So And there's power in relationships.

Skido (36:42):
Yeah. And I like where you at right now.

DeShawn (36:44):
Thank you.

Skido (36:45):
You strong. You all

DeShawn (36:45):
nailed it. I'm open too. Right? So that's what I
like. Can tell me.

Skido (36:48):
It works perfect for us. So we able to be ourselves, talk
real talk. We getting ready forthe guests.

DeShawn (36:55):
That's right.

Skido (36:55):
So we're doing the warm up before the guests, and I
think that's gonna be amazing.10 Steps Ahead.

DeShawn (37:00):
10 Steps Ahead. I can't Alright. We'll catch you guys on
the next episode. Stay We're

Skido (37:05):
going to 10 Steps Ahead. It's a brand new show. We're
kill it,

DeShawn (37:08):
D. Alright.

Skido (37:08):
It's my sis right here. That's what's

DeShawn (37:10):
up. Loving life.

Skido (37:11):
Love, that's what's up. Skeetles in the building. Let's
go.

DeShawn (37:14):
In the building.
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An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.

The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.

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