In the first half of this engaging two-part conversation, Tom and Tim Dosch catch up with their longtime friend and industry leader Jason Baker, co-founder of Baker Katz, to talk about what’s really going on in the retail real estate market across Texas.
With over 20 years of experience in tenant representation, development, and investment strategy, Jason shares real-world insights on how the retail scene has shifted, especially post-COVID, and what’s coming next for Houston, DFW, and beyond. From rising construction costs to the ongoing growth of H-E-B and Costco, he breaks it all down with both a big-picture perspective and practical takeaways for real estate pros, operators, and investors.
Tune in now and don't miss Part 2, where Jason opens up about the personal side, leadership lessons, adoption, faith, and how to build a life that goes beyond just work.
Key Takeaways
Retail’s rebound: Why post-COVID demand has surprised many, and what it means for brick-and-mortar in 2025 and beyond
Omnichannel is here to stay: How successful retailers are combining physical stores with digital convenience
Restaurant realities: Sales are strong, but rising costs are compressing margins, what operators need to know
Grocery market shifts: H-E-B’s rapid growth in DFW and what it signals for competitors like Kroger and Tom Thumb
Smart development strategy: Why retail construction is paused now, but expected to pick up again in 2026
Lessons in partnership: How Jason and co-founder Kenneth Katz have built a 20-year business relationship rooted in trust and complementary strengths
Disciplined investing: Why understanding tenant demand has helped Baker Katz navigate cycles with confidence
In This Episode:
[00:00:52] Who is Jason Baker? A closer look at his background and role in shaping Houston retail real estate
[00:08:42] E-commerce vs. in-store: why the real story is more complex than it seems
[00:15:27] Inside the restaurant business: top-line growth vs. shrinking margins
[00:20:08] H-E-B’s market dominance, and why their DFW expansion changes the game
[00:24:30] H-E-B vs Costco business models
[00:31:06] The importance of culture and being good listeners to customers
[00:32:17] The retail development outlook: why patience and strategy matter
[00:35:39] The early days: how Jason helped pioneer tenant rep brokerage in Texas.
[00:39:11] Jason's partnership with Kenneth and the value of partnerships
[00:44:53] Leaving well: lessons in honoring mentors and transitioning with integrity
[00:46:47] The origin of Baker Katz’s investment philosophy, and how it continues to evolve
[00:51:07] Investing with a long view: balancing upside potential with downside protection.
[00:54:04] Part 2 preview
Resources and Links
Podcast
Jason Baker
Tom Dosch
Tim Dosch
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.