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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is a headgum podcast. Hi guys, I'm aga wodem
and welcome to Thanks Dad. I was raised by a
single mom and I don't have a relationship with my dad,
and I don't think I'm ever gonna have a relationship
with my dad because he has gone ahead and died
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and that's crazy gets me every time and gets my
guests every time. So on this podcast, I'm sitting down
with father figers who are old enough to be my
dad or are just dads themselves. In this case, I
don't think Bobby's old enough to be my dad and
he's just a dad. Oh that's gonna fuck your career
(00:45):
saying you're age. Oh my gosh. I'll get to ask
the questions I've always wanted to ask a dad, like
how do I know the guy I'm dating is right
for me? Can you teach me to change a tire
on the car I don't have yet? Can you go
with me to buy that car so that I don't
get bamboozled by a car salesman? Is that still a
thing in modern times? Do you think car salesmen are
(01:06):
still bamboozling women.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Every day, every every every second of every day. They
are okay.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh, that's oh, and that is that's right. They think
they are. They think they've got the one of Okay. Anyway, guys,
you just heard the voice of my Dad for the Day.
You know my next guest friend. Movies like Inside Out,
IF and Brother Nature, The show Me, Myself and I
and His ninth season run on Saturday Night Live. My Kid, Frankly,
please welcome my Dad for the Day. Bobby moynihan.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Hello, daughter, it's me. Dad died too.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Your dad died as well? Oh no, oh my gosh.
There's there are so many things out here that can
kill us. And the piece of advice I'm going to
ask you about at the end kind of touches on death,
because I end every episode asking my dad for the
day a piece of advice that I think dads know.
And if you don't know, you better pretend you know
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what you're talking about. Act like an authority figure, and yeah,
I will heed your advice. Okay, Bobby, you had a
dad he passed. Can you tell me what he was like? Nope,
I gotta go, Okay, Dark, I'll see you later. Guys, Yes,
of course. Uh my father was.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
How long do we have all the.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Time in the world. Fred not this is what this
entire podcast is about, My dear.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That that's crazy. Uh, it's funny when you say that.
It's like, I feel like I've said this a million times.
But now that I am, I'm a father of two.
Now I have a seven year old and a one
year old, and I have a very very different view
of my father, like from before, from after the seven
year old, after the one year old, Like it keeps changing, right,
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but right now I feel like I have a for
the first time, I have the most realistic vision of
who he like. When someone asked me that question, I
go like, Okay, my dad was a hard working kid.
His mother passed away when he was very young, so
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he didn't have that, and his dad was a fireman
who was always working, So a lot of stuff going
on there. Don't think I really realized all of that
until much later in life, like that side of it.
And he had an epilepsy and he was an alcoholic,
so the two things you can't do is drink or drive.
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And in his life he owned a gas station and
a liquor store.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Oh wow, perfect setup for an improv scene. Yeah, I
feel like, oh gosh, so Where did your dad grow up?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Uh, Brooks, I.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Didn't realize you were New York. You've got New York
blood in you.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh yeah, I grew up. I've lived there in Mahawaii.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So you say his mom pass away he was younger.
You have a different view of him now that you
are a father. You had a different view this with
the seven year old, with your one year old. What
was your view of him when you were young? What
was your relationship like with him?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Just trying to impress dad, just wanting Dad's attention. Dad
was very hard working, worked at the liquor store, a
very big Giants fan.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Uh wore Phil Simms. I don't think i've well, I
mean like I had. I'm trying to be funny, but
it was very rare to see him outside of a
Phil Simms New York Giants jersey. He had multiple He
wore it to both my high school graduation and my sister,
Like he just wore that was a thing of like
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Kevin Smith, Like, where's like hockey jersey?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, he was like that. Okay, what were the things
you would do to try to impress him when you
were younger.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
That's the first time in forty seven years. I ever
compared my father to Kevin Smith. I just want that
to be on record. It's a good comparison. It paints
a picture. I will say. Immediately, I'm like, oh, okay,
got it. I understand the opposite of me. I look
exactly like Kevin Smith. I played Kevin Smith on as
I know my father opposite. He looked like he was
six foot tall. He was six feet big, irish, white hair,
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like like a Chevy Chase almost, but bigger, like if
Chevy Chase lived in the Bronx. Yeah, and wasn't severely racist.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Okay, got to know your dad wasn't a racist? Okay,
well he.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Grew up sure my dad. I always said, drunk uncle
is pretty much the idea was just like, hey, I'm
not racist, but I don't have the right terminology. That
was the whole interested in. I mean like, I mean, well,
I mean well, it's like that was that was that
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was that was that he grew up in that time. Unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Okay, did you feel like you were close to your
dad growing up? Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And no, Like I don't think I realized what was
happening a much later. Like I was just like dad
what's up? And he was just like, get the fuck
out of here, like kind of like I'm tired, like
you know, like it was. It was a lot of that,
but uh, we we yes, we were we were no no, no,
absolutely no.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Okay, yeah you don't listen, he's not here. I'm not
gonna tell on you.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I honestly just want to know what it was like.
I'm so fascinated by dads and people's relationships with them,
given I didn't have a relationship with my dad, So
I'm like, yeah, what was it like for you?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I mean, you say you were trying to impress that
that's why were perfect for SNL.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah. I think everyone who works at SNL has daddy issues.
Maybe that's not fair because maybe I can't speak for
all of Mike. I don't know everyone who works there.
It doesn't hurt relationship. Yeah, daddy issues is very helpful.
It's I feel like Lauren knows how to pick them.
I'm trying to understand. So, your your dad was sort
of Kevin Smith or Chevy Cha.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
My dad was like Irish Irish Catholic, six foot tall,
Irish Catholic ext went into the Marines because this was
my dad. His father got remarried to a woman right
around when he was graduating high school, and he didn't know.
He found out at high school graduation. It was kind
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of like hey, I've been dating this woman. We are
now married. And my father went, great, I'm going to
the Marines. Oh bye, okay, yeah, join the Marines. Got
the tattoos and all this stuff. And a week later
they were like, you have epilepsy. You can't be a marine.
And he was like all right, and out of the Marines.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Y back home, back home, out of the marine, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Funny like and like this and like this is like
stuff like now like now at forty seven, I go,
how did that happen? How did that work? How did
you get out? Like what was the thing that did
they see? You have a seizure? But I'll never be
able to ask.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Right, I mean, there's so many questions we won't be
able to ask her. Do you believe in heaven or hell?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I I was. I was raised Catholic, and now I
believe in like the movie Soul.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Okay, yeah yeah, Jamie Foxx, Like I just go, like
I think there's like soul, got it?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Kind of right, like there's a place where your soul it's.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
From and like and it goes back to yes.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And everything is just kind of smooth jazz.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That would be really nice if I were.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Coco Anything By Anything, Heaven by Pixar, I'm down with
You're like I believe that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So was your dad particularly strict then if you grew
up Catholic?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't know what strict was the right word? Uh,
that wasn't it. We went to church because like it
was almost like they were like, we gotta go to
church because we have to. Like it was like they
hated it too, Like they were just they were I
think that was the part of parenting. They were like
the one thing you gotta do is what Jesus says. Okay,
Like you don't got to listen to me, asshole, but
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you got to listen to Christ.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Like it was like that right right, Okay, it.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Was more of a threat and like he was like
a like just like an authority figure above my father.
Like that was it. I went to Catholic school, I
went to all that shit.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Okay, what were some of the ways you did connect
with your dad?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Jesus?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Damn, you really wish you would have read the email.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, no, uh, I figured it was this. It's just
it's never easy to talk about. I'm just glad I'm
not weeping. No.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh, by the way, if you weep, I will probably weep.
You wouldn't be the first one on this podcast to
weep a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I get it. I just saw the SNL documentary, which
is like every ninety percent of the stuff I'm in,
I'm weeping, and I'm like, oh Jesus Christ, Poppy, what
did you do to yourself? No, Honestly, like I don't
know how to answer that question, but like I will
say this, Like when I was thirteen years old, I
worked full time in his liquor store, like helping customers,
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running the cash register. Like I learned how to drive
really early because I was literally making deliveries, so driving illegally,
illegally driving okay, father hammered in the liquor store, hammered,
Oh my gosh, yeah, and I'm driving around deliver I
delivered once to I believe were to like Richard Pryor's house.
(10:07):
Oh wow, lived in Nurseshelle. Like I had no idea
who he was, but like it was just yeah, one
hundred millions of those stories. I was delivering alcohol between
the ages of like sixteen, fifteen, sixteen seventeen, like not
of age, yeah right, and and like New Year's Eve
slammed selling champagne to drunk adults at fifteen.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Okay, what a life. You grew up fast. I grew
up very fast. Do you think that made your dad
proud ultimately, like that you were helping the family business
and stepping up to do the thing that he probably
shouldn't have been doing. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I think I made him proud in weird ways, like
the are other weird ways. Uh, I was funny, I was.
He was funny, he was uh, he was sarcastic. It
was it was that he was like he was a
good he was a good guy. But I'm realizing now
he's just a big stupid boy. His mommy died when
he was young, and he never had that and he
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spent the rest of his life drunk and thinking about
it and had probably had kids like too young and
dealt with that the rest of his life. Like that
never occurred to me, that he was never like an adult.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah. Do you feel like you're having that realization in
real time? Right? Now right. Yeah, It's it's fascinating the
moment you realize your parents are and you are a
parent now, but you realize your parents are just little
girls and little boys who have kids, and some more mature,
some less mature, depending on the tools they have in
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their toolkit and depending on what their life experience is life,
and depending on how safe they felt to emote, even
frankly like and it continues to be a light bulb
moment for me even in my relationship with my mom,
who's fantastic and I think did a great job raising
me and my siblings. But I'm like, oh my gosh,
just a girl who had some kids and is truck.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Did your mom get to do the Mother's Day Show?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah? She did the Mother's Day Show twice.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That's the best.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, And it's really really special. But it's also nerve
wracking because I'm like, I'm at work. It's like bring
your mom to work day, and you're kind of like, well,
this place stresses me out plenty.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Live television for nine years. That was the most nervous
I ever was. Was that much?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah? I think so too. I'm most on edge both
of those episodes. I'm like most on Edge, and I
remember one of my castmates my first time being around
for a Mother's Day episode where their moms were coming.
One of my castmates was like, I'm so stressed. I
just don't want my mom to like go off the
rails on air, just kind of not say what's on
the cards. And in that moment that was a more
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senior cast member, I was like, Oh good, I'm not alone.
I don't know that I'm worried my mom's going to
go off the rails. But it's just like having my
mom do this thing that is so outside of her
element and her frankly ability, and then it's being broadcast
to the entire country and then lives online for the
world is so yeah. It's so anxiety inducing and a
job that's already yeah, stressful.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
In retrospect, it was fun. I was terrified. I'm sweating,
I'm terrified. I'm terrified, and my mom is locked and
oh wow, like ready to go. I said some jokes.
She definitely said something she was She went like okay,
like she definitely like improvised a tiny little bit, okay,
And I was like, in retrospect, I'm like, nice, mom,
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Like you took it. And I'm good, good for you,
Good for you mom. Yeah, And she met Reese Witherspoon
and then and then for the rest of her life
because my mom passed away. Also only referred to who
as Reese.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Okay, because they're friends now first name basis.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I was talking at recent eight h I'm going to
see Reese Witherspoon tomorrow and I cannot wait to tell
her she was the kindest to my mother.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
That's incredible. Was your dad proud of you going into
comedy since he was a funny guy.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yes, I think yes. I think I can answer that
and say yes, he was proud in his own way,
Like I have said this in interviews and it's true.
Like I told my father I got SNL and he
was like, you got health insurance and I said, yeah, congratulations,
like like that was like it was more like I
get it. He the Hollywood, like that whole side of
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it is not him. He's like, yeah, he came to
SNL once it was Eli Manning hosted Okay because he
wanted to meet Eli Manning because he was on the Giants,
and he literally met him and he was like, you're good,
but your brother's better, and don't get hurt like like
and treated him like fucking garbage.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, you know, you got to give it up to
the adults for not giving a fuck. Honestly, there's something
about that. But okay.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
He asked my dad, he said, you want me to
sign My dad was wearing a Peyton Manning or Eli
Manning jersey and he goes, you want me to sign
that jersey? He goes no, Like he looked at him, like,
why you want to write on it? I paid a
hund booksman, this fucking idiot, Like it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
That's kind of cool. Your parents were very cool, not nonchalant.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
My dad was like Italian Popeye. So yeah, okay, and
he was irish.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
The picture is getting clearer clear because it's getting clear
and clear. You're doing a good job here of painting
his picture. So when he's like, cool, you have health insurance,
you understand then in that moment that he's proud of you.
Sounds like potentially a man of few words.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Loves his sports, yeah, loves to entertain, love to sing, like,
really loved music, was very like had like for like
a stupid Bronx guy. His favorites were like Lucciano Pavarotti,
like he loved with the three tenors. Oh, once he
found that, like he was like, this is music like
and he loved. He listened to like Frank Sina, a
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lot of Frank Sinatra, a lot of like old jazz,
and like classical music. He had like a CD collection
that he took very very seriously. Yea, because he enjoyed
music a great deal. He loved to saying to himself
when he was a kid, he was in like the choir.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Oh that's incredible. Weird, weird the plot twist for me
because as you're painting the picture, I remember I said,
the picture's dining clearer. Now I'm like, oh, any things
I love that?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, dollar heart, nickel brain. I feel like now I
can say that about him, like, you know, like good guy,
but yeah, a little damage.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Uh sure, we're all getting messed up. And I also
tend to think that no matter how much knowledge we
have now about the ways parenting impacts a child and
the person they become, I'm like, I want to have
kids one day. I'm like, and I'm sure they're going
to mess him up somehow, even with all my well, no.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Matter what you will, it's more just I feel like
going into parenting, I was terrified and like you think
it's gonna get easier, And now I'm a different kind
of terrified, which is when you realize everything you learned
doesn't matter right and all it is, especially I mean
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like and also, to be honest, it's easier to talk
to you in a way because we should have launch
for the sole reason of like, we can speak to
each other on two different languages, which is a parent
who's died and snol. Like it's two exclusive clubs you
don't you want to be in, but it sucks sometimes. Yes,
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it's just a fascinating I.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Think about it. I truly do think about this often
where I'm like, I read things about parenting just because
I'm curious, and even having gone to therapy myself, and
it's not mind too. Therapy is not so intense. Please
what are you saying? Please?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
No? No, no. I just realized remember the point I
was trying to make, which is now I go It's
just parenting to me is just preparing them for when
I'm gone, because that's all that life is, is adults
dealing with the person who taught them how to would
be an adult is gone. Like now, that just feels like, Oh,
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all I got to do is make sure that they're
gonna just not drink themselves stupid when I'm gone, because
they don't know how to do anything for themselves, right,
because I think that's what happened in my debt.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Okay, yes, well then do you think that? Do you
think that your dad then did prepare you for his absence?
Would you say he did?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
No, not in any way? Uh? Well, but but I
was prepared. He didn't prepare me, but the things he
did prepared me because I spent most of my childhood
fearing that he was going to die. There were multiple
times I was in the hospital like this is it?
Say you're goodbye? Oh no, he made it. Okay, well
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I'm happy this time the sixth time. It's a little annoying.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Uh And you start to get that though in college
before cell phones. Mm hmm. Come home, he's not going
to make it. He's in the hospital, he's not going
to make it. Drove all the way home, going I
gotta get a suit, and he's fine, and you're like,
fucking I drove, I.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Drove two hours for this shit. Can he please just go?
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Like that starts to happen. So it prepared. When he died,
like it was like, oh no, way, this time it
really happened. Oh shit, Like that was it was a
little you know like that.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Did you ever think of him as sort of resilient
though in some sense, given that he had all these
scares but then would still make it through it.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah. Yeah, but like I used to think it was
a skill, and he thought it was a skill. He
was a prout, like you know, like you could hit
me in a face with a two by floor, I'll
get up and walk away, like you know, like like
it's like, yeah, that's great. You know professional wrestlers do
that too, but then they take the mask off and
they have to deal with their lives.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, you don't have to take the pain.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
It doesn't need to go this way. This is not
the route we have to take. So then it's like, unintentionally,
as a result of just how he was living his life,
you do feel like you were prepared. It wasn't like
a function of him sitting you down and going these
are the values I want to instill in you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
No, I had an alcoholic father who, yeah, pickled himself,
his whole life and worsened his injuries in his inside
of him slowly until until it until it killed him. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, did you feel scared of him? I know you
were scared of the situation in him going, but you
felt scared of him too.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, I guess I should. I was scared of him,
But I'm I'm one of the lucky ones that like
it was never like he never hit me, like you know,
like it wasn't like it was it was mentally and
fit like you know, abusive, but never physically, So like that's.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Good, right, right, Like that's a positive, I guess, And
but scared in the fact of like walking out, like okay, back,
different because he's around or or and different because he's
around and drunk.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Okay, did it feel like then you were closer to
your mom? Is that someone you felt like? Oh yeah, yeah,
you felt that nurturing sense from.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Dad died a couple of months after my first daughter
was born, and it felt like he was waiting for it.
It felt like he was waiting he saw her and
then like he gave up and then six months later,
out of nowhere, watching Rup Paul's drag Race midnight with
my wife get a phone call, Mom, I'm gonna I'm
gonna an ambulance in New York. I'm in LA. I'm
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like what yeah, And she's like, I just wanted to
say I love you. And I'm like, oh, no, what yeah? What?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
No, that was.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
The last time I talked to her. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh, I'm sorry, Bobby, that is It's okay. You didn't well, no,
I didn't, but yeah, well you claimed to have done
one of them at the beginning of the night. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I didn't say anything about the second. I would never
murder my mother. I wouldn't even jump.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It sounds like a sweetie. So now you understand parenting
to be preparing your children in a sense for when
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you're not here. To add more to that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yes, I go like I see things with the first
even with the first daughter, compared to the second daughter,
you start to like, you just act different. The first daughter,
I was putting my nose, my finger under her nose
when she was sleeping, make sure she was still breathing,
like you know what I mean. Like it's like you're
so like my god of my conduct, like you know
what I mean? Like, And the second kid, my wife
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jokes around like, well, I'll walk in the room, like
I'll get scared because I forget that she's here, Like yeah,
like it's like it's just it's just literally just easier
because you've done it before, like and like even just that,
you go like, Okay, I've been a parent for a
couple of years and we have a bit of an
age gap at seven and one, so like we had
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some time to relax. We had a pandemic to raise
a kid, and then we had an actor strike to
raise the second kid. And yeah, it's been nice. I've
spent more time with both my daughters and my father
spent with me in his entire life, right, Like, yeah,
it's different.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Does that make you feel like you're doing something right then,
because I feel like I hear parents talk about their
guilt all the time and they feel like they're doing
things wrong and they have no idea if they're doing
it right. But does at least getting to spend more
time than your dad spent with you with your daughters
make you feel like, Okay, well this feels right.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I feel like I could confidently say I'm doing better
but not right all the.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Time, Like I mean I guess, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
There's well It's also like the thing that really sucks
about parenting is like focusing on like, Okay, what I
got to do is like I have to I have
to be more strict with her, and I got to
tell her, like you must finish all your chicken nuggets.
And you're doing this while you're looking at your phone.
You're thinking this while you're looking at your phone, and
you're realizing that what you're doing is you're imprinting that
(23:31):
you don't give a shit because you're just on your phone.
Like it's more like what's really important is putting your
phone down, yeah, and being present. Like it's just like
you there's little things like you don't even know you're doing,
and then all of a sudden they do it back.
It's like having the giving birth the mirrors.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, isn't that. I just imagine that is so bizarre
because I imagine being a parent, you become hyper aware of
your own behaviors, so such as like saying you need
to finish your chicken nuggets while you're on the phone.
Do I hear that? I'm kind of like, yeah, you're
letting her know she has to eat her dinner. But
you happen to be on your phone. But you're right
that there might be some messaging in that that, like,
(24:05):
I don't really give a shit about about this interaction.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
No one says you're going to spend ten years fending
off a child who knows all your tricks but doesn't
know how to use them yet, that makes sense. So
you're just looking at someone who's doing it wrong, going,
you son of a bitch.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Taught you that, but you have no idea, Like you're
just like it's crazy. It's like watching a bank robbery
that you did and don't remember.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, do you put a lot of pressure on yourself then,
knowing that your children are mirrors in that way? Now
that you have a seven year old, for instance, before
the one year old was here and you're spending time
in the pandemic, do you feel like you're putting a
lot of pressure on yourself during that period less?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Now I'm easier letting dumb shit go. I mean, like
I know now and can say like I'm very dramatic,
and I can I am so someone who finds it
easy to play the victim and may even cause problems
to be the victim of.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And this did you learn this in therapy.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Uh, I learned it more from just watching my kids
do it right back to me and going, man, all right,
but but yes, that therapy didn't hurt, you know what
I mean, like but but yeah, but like, but it's
also that it's it's you spend a lot of years
being embarrassed by that, being embarrassed like, oh my god,
(25:28):
how did I do that? For so? I mean, I
wish I could go back to SNL first day and go, hey, guys, sorry,
I'm back. I learned some things about something out, I
figured something out, and I larned. I would that that's it.
I would walk in there every day and go hi, Laurie, mean,
because that's what I wanted to do and I should
(25:49):
have done it, But instead I went in every day
going hello.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Sir, oh boy, you know hey, yes, yes, huh yes,
the quickest little tangentle exchange. I mean, it doesn't have
to be quick. But now I'm just that comment you
made about how you might have showed up at SNL
differently the way you were showing up at SNL you
believe is a function of what.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Survival. I mean, just it was. It was nine years
of Please don't take this away from me.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Did you feel scared that you would not get another job?
Or was SNL just your dream?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It's just stupid. It's fucking insane. It's crazy to love
something your whole to be a comedy fan and love
something your whole life and look up to it and
it and it to be a cultural phenomen like it's
part of it's one of the things. It's one of
the things, and then all of a sudden, you're there.
(26:44):
I used to it's this sentence, it's this sentence. After
my first year. I said this sentence to my mom.
She was like, was it the summer after my first year?
And like, you're everyone's different, Every person in your life
is different. You're different, everyone has changed. And my mom said,
what's wrong? Like you seem down kind of thing. And
I was just like, I don't know how to explain
(27:06):
this to you, mom. I was on a mechanical bowl
with Tom Hanks left.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Bobby. I mean, I really do want to get lunch
with you about the SNL of it all, because and
the dead parent of it all. Because you're supposed to
be elated, but it's such a gosh, it's such whiplash too.
It's such it's it's such an emotional whiplash, I think
being on SNL, which is an incredible opportunity. Not complaining,
(27:36):
but yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
It's also like my view of SNL when I was
on it. I was also there for the fortieth, so
I know a little bit of what you're going through
right now. I can't imagine what it's like being there
for the fiftieth. I can't imagine because I was there
for the fortieth.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
What did you pick up on in the fortieth What
were the vibes?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Well, everything changed before there was a before and after.
There was two before and afters for me at SNL
when Seth left and the fortieth, and like they were
kind of close to each other, like but like too
as far as like when I first got there, Amy
and Darryl were still there and like Shoemaker and like
it was still old SNL or or what at that
(28:17):
time was considered old SNL, the Kristin era, the Kristen
Bill Hayter and the era, you know, the that era.
I came into the tail end of that and started
kind of the me Tarn Vanessa, that Jay Farrow that era.
So I saw this switch, this change where kind of
people left and well, people who had worked there for
(28:38):
forty years were gone, and it was bringing in kind
of the new era. I remember like we were never
in digital shorts, and by the time I left, I
was rarely rehearsing because we were shooting for twenty four
hours straight, you know. So like I saw like a
different I saw the transition. I feel like I was
there in a transitional period. So the fortieth for me
(28:59):
was like space camp. Like it was like it was nuts.
But I can't imagine ramped up for the fifty. Like
even just even just being around in California, it has
changed my life. My wife was in Wicked on Broadway
and I'm on Snel and we went. It's like our
house is filled with insane trauma right now. We went
(29:20):
to city Walk the other day, and city Walk, the
entirety of Universal City Walk is just Saturday Night Live
and Wicked.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It was wild. I did, by the way, I did
buy this at a city Walk and you're on it.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I'm on it? What is it? Where?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
What right?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Mug at CityWalk? Oh my gosh, I'm next to Bobby
on the Oh my snel mug from city Walk drunk uncle.
That is incredible. Gosh, now this is a dad podcast, but.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Oh yeah, we just made it ANML podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. It's like it's like
you did boot camp. You did the same boot camp
I did, and we.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Were both in the same war.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yes, and so we have to go remember that. Gosh.
I have so many questions now I've been my trauma
has kicked in, and I like, did you have your
first child at what point in your tenure at SNL
is after you left SNL after Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Okay, yeah, I couldn't have done both. I would have died.
I would have exploded. I watched Bill Hater have a
kid in the middle of SNL and like, saw what
it did to him or like, so just the different
people he like, it's you just don't sleep anyway if
you're on SNL. So I can't imagine both. Yeah, got
married and had a kid within a year of getting
(30:42):
off of SNL, and uh, seven year old and then
we did I yeah, yeah, now we have one year old.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
You did IVF and you have a one year old.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I was gonna say we did IVF. It took a while.
We didn't kind of like stalled during pandemic and now
then it worked and here.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, when you were on SNL and it was sort
of like that energy of please don't take this away,
please don't take this away. Was your desire to get
married and be a dad any part of your decision
to leave or what was that?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Like, I mean, it's funny in retrospect now I think
back and I go, I met my wife like a
couple weeks before I got SNL, okay, And when I
got S and L, I called my mom and then
I called her and like we had gone on like
a couple days, like it was like we're but like
I think I just knew, and like we dated all
(31:33):
throughout SNL. At one point in the middle of SNL,
we were like she kind of she was on Broadway,
so it was like every like we never saw we
tried to see each other whenever we could, and and
she kind of went like, we're we either have to
get married, like what are we doing? And I went
like we can't do this, and we broke up for
a little while, but it very much it very much
felt like we were both going like we have to
(31:55):
break up with this because this is too much, and
the second we did, we went like, oh man, okay,
so when we get back together, we'll get married, Like,
let's just wait a little while so we don't look
like idiots. Yeah, and that's that's like what it felt like.
And we got back together and we've been together ever
since and got married. The second we had like a day.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Off during the time you were dating and you were
on SNL, she was on Broadway. Obviously time is limited.
Was Monday night your date night?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yes, very much, so like Monday was a big deal
for us. It was Monday was our Sunday.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Okay, yep, I don't I know it. That's the day
every SNL person is going on dates much Monday Mondays.
It's Mondays. So when you guys decided to have your
first child, which seems like it happened pretty much right away,
did you feel ready to be a parent, Like, did
you feel like this is something I'm ready to do
or was was it a function of this is the
(32:46):
time to do it?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
No? It looking back, it's very much SNL prepared me
for it in the sense of like, well, we're going
live and there's nothing you can do about it. Like,
so that's kind of read like that was it eleven
thirty all the time with a kid eleven That's like
you take the kid that you give birth and then
you get downstairs and you go like, okay, we got
to put this thing in a car like that literally,
(33:10):
like the first time it hits you is the car
right home where you're like, so, no one, I'm just
no one's gonna help. I'm allowed to pick this thing
and like it's crazy. It's a crazy realization where you
go like, oh, but I think that's yeah. I was
about to do another SNL thing. I'll stop talking about
SNL and' only talk about You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
To talk about SNL as much as you want, and
I want listeners to know this is truly what happens,
and somehow all roads lead back to SNL even if
you weren't on SNL. I feel like somehow I'd be
talking to someone about SNL right now.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I said it in that documentary It Seth when I
got the show. The night I got the showeth Except
said congratulations, You'll never talk about anything else for the
rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Seth is so brilliant and wonderful. The best I wasn't
obviously there when he was head writer. But I've heard
so many wonderful tales of his time as a leader
there and wish I could have been there.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah. I hope he gets it. I hope he inherits
the show.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Agree with you? Yeah, that would be really cool because
only good things. Okay, so you felt like it was
like being on SNL We're going to go Live. Did
anyone give you any advice that was particularly helpful to
you in parenting, whether it be in the baby phase
or once your kids can talk face Did anyone say
anything that you're like that was good advice? And I've
used it.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Juliel White, Steve Rkle, Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Love Twiss, unexpected, Okay, keep going.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Uh it's not the best advice. It's just whenever someone
asked me that question, I love to see their reaction
when I say, Juliel White told me, Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
What did Jhaliel say? What did Rkle say? Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
He's a good dad. He he was talking to his
daughter and he was very specifically going no, no, no, no no.
Are you hurt or are you injured?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Explain this to me?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Do we are you hurt? Are you in pain? Or
are we making a trip to the hospital, like the
difference between hurt and injured, and explaining that quickly was
very I don't know why, it just it just hit me.
It just hit me like it was written in a movie.
I went like, I'm gonna remember that always. I don't
know why, but I'm going to and have you used it?
(35:12):
Oh a billion times? A billion times? And because he
said it and it just well it Also it's a
good parenting tool because it kind of snaps your kid
into reality because igo we were on us and know
we're very dramatic. So like my daughter, my daughter bangs
her knee a tiny pit and it's it's like it's
(35:33):
bloody murder. So you go, are you hurt or are
you injured? And they hear what they hear is I
don't want to put down the iPad and go to
the hospital. I'm fine. Sorry, Sorry, I was being a little.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Did I really love that? Because I'm gonna be honest.
When you first said that, Jaliel taught you that are
you hurt or are you injured? I was like, what's
the difference? And I'm like, now I really understand the
specificity of that.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
That's why I bring it up because it is a
great thing.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Are you hurt or are you injured? In my ass
wants to go The answer is yes, but in like no,
you need to pick one and they mean different things,
and one means we're gonna go to the hospital. How
many trips to the hospital have you been saved with
that question? Do you believe a few?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But we had a real trip to the hospital that
changed everything. She my daughter broke her arm when she
was three, and that made everything very real and so like.
But also like, this is a terrible thing to say,
but it's like I never broke a bone when I
was a kid, and she broke her arm when she
was three, and she's fucking tougher for it.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Oh wow wow. It's kind of like I'm not condoning violence.
I feel like, if you've ever gotten beaten up, it
does something, like, you know, does something for you.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It's a shitty thing to say. Never would have said
this before I had two kids. Times you need to
get punched in the fucking face.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Okay, I believe it too. I agree with that. By
the way, I backpedal on what I said about I
don't condone violence. If I was running for office, that's
my I don't condone violence, but honestly, I do believe
sometimes you need to get.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
That's how you learn in life, not to get punched
in the face, get punched in the face when you
do dumb shit.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I agree. If Bobby says it, then I feel like
I can be honest and say I agree. Also, I've
never broken a bone, and I'm going to knock on.
I don't have woo to knock on, so I knock
on marble. This is marble, but marble columns. You're surrounded
by marble columns. Not this happens to be a marble table.
I promise it's all the marble ized.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
She's shitting in a porcelain tumb full of raspberries.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I hope this is okay, Bobby, I hope this isn't
too much.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
But she's in a business suit. But there's a lot
of raspberries exactly.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
That's okay. And that's a character. I'm gonna put that
one in my back poppies. Maybe people will like that one.
But I gosh, I can only imagine having a child
break an arm. Did you and anyway feel guilt? Okay?
And then what happened?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Man, it's not guilt it's just this. I can see
the look in my mother's eye of like, oh my God,
all I want is to take everything bad that's happening
to you right away from you right now, and I can't.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Hm. Would you call that top three most overwhelming feelings
in this life?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Parents? Death, realizing that your kids are going to go
through it? Those two and when and when Jane Lynch
had one of my sketches cut on as a killer.
I still want a killer to this deck.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Okay, I am going to ask about that sketch, But
what you say, would you realize that your kids are
going to go through it, meaning like have a rough
time in life or they're going.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
To experience I'm going to join it someday and just knowing,
just knowing what I know now, it's just like, oh man,
why did I have a kid?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Why did you do? Did? Why would you say you
did it? Actually? Bobby? Why would you well?
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Because because of the ninety nine point billion percent other
time when it's absolutely wonderful and it's it, every fiber
of your being just goes there they are.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Did you suspect you would be a good dad?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I suspected I would be a fun dad. But not
a good dad, and I am a fun dad and
that's pretty good dad.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Are you a disciplinarian at all?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Oh no, let your wife be the bad guy. I
think it's more like right or wrong than discipline. But
I think I have a disciplined problem, like my my daughter.
It's like sneaking treats, you know what I mean, Like
you have an arfter trunklate, you know what I mean?
Like or like I collect I'm a collector, Like I've
(39:34):
never thrown anything away in my life, So I like
I have a problem of like, hey, we're only getting
ten things this time, honey, Like you know what I mean.
Like I grew up poor and because of SNL, like
you know, because of the my daughter has a very
different life than I did. And we're not billion billionaires.
But like you know, like it's like when I think
about like I was buying used g I Joe's and
(39:57):
now and my daughter likes something, I'm like, here's the
entire you need all ten? You can't have just two. Yeah,
that's my fault. And now I have to curb. And
I realize now especially with the second kid, like we
don't have to buy toys for the second kid, because
we bought all of the toys for the first first one.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
What will you say if your second one says I
want my own stuff. I'm starting to realize these are
all hand me downs? Are you gonna go?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Okay, I'm gonna look her in the eyes like I'm not.
What I'm not gonna do is with my father could go, hey,
shut the fuck up. I don't know fucking figure it out,
So I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna go I
completely understand that what we should do is probably donate
(40:41):
these to some kids who need them, So that'll be fun.
Let's do that together instead of looking at an iPad.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Right, I love that.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
And also, maybe we do some stuff around the house,
or we figure out some fun things to do, or
maybe you can make some art for an allowance, something creative.
What do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
We can work up and buy some new toys. But
when we do, we get one, and it's got to
be a special one. And I have to remind myself
that because that's not how I lived, clearly, not at all.
I see as you see my childhood behind me, my
SNL jersey.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Oh boy, do you worry about spoiling your kids because
your upbringing is different from theirs.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Constantly. Yeah, I grew up in east Chester, New York.
They are growing up in California. My this this got
me the other day, and I'm not ashamed to say
it because I got to remember by myself. My daughter's
in first grade and said where friends said, I'm going
to the movies, and she said, is it the premiere?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Oh yeah, a little Hollywood girl.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Well well no, not a Hollywood girl at all, but
but we took her. I'm in inside out and I'm
inside out too, and we took her to the movie
and it was the premiere and we never took her
were premiere before, so it was just but it was
just that, it was just like just that one sent
I went.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Like, well, is it the premiere? And are you dressing up?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
And but do you know what I was picture? It's
on a three?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Where's where's the red carpet? I mean, I guess there
is red carpet at the movies, but there's no seamless Yeah,
a god, I get a seamless Bobby. You do sound
like a fun dad. I feel like if I could
pick a dad, i'd go, yeah, well, I have chosen
you as my dad for the day. I want to
ask really fast before I get into this dad vice
advice piece where I ask you for a piece of advice,
(42:39):
the Jane Lynch sketch. What was it? And tell me
the story, because I have my own version of the
Jane Lynch sketch. It wasn't Jane Lynch, but please do tell.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
It was a sketch that I had tried to get
on for a while to the point where like, no
one told me you weren't supposed to fucking pan stuff
in multiple times when I first got there, and I
kind of did. And and it was a sketch called
Party for Burrow. Please look it up on the database. Okay, okay,
with Jane Lynch. I was a nine hundred pound man
(43:14):
who was having a party, a party at his house
because he had reached his goal weight of six hundred pounds.
And they built a big body on a chair and
I had my head poking through it. Yeah, And Jane
Lynch was my very normal wife. And there was a
lot of very normal suburban people at this party, and
(43:36):
they were all having a party, and Jane Lynch did
all the talking, was like, hey, everybody thanks for coming, Burrow,
and they were like she was like, and thank you
for coming, and she told the whole story like I
just told you, and she would go, is it that right, Burrow,
and I would go yeah, and I just never said
anything except eh, and I never moved and they all
went into a different room to play twister and you
(43:58):
could hear fun having and I just sat there. It
was dark and weird. Keenan looked like a grandpa. But
then it was like, are my wheat dealer's here? And
it was Keenan. He was like, good to be here, man,
And it was just very weird and stupid, and it
was never going to get on again. And it made
it to dress and it got in the show and
(44:20):
it was the sketch after dress, I mean after update,
my favorite spot, Like why.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Is that your favorite spot?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Because everyone's like, all right, last.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Year actually okay, great, okay, great.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
It's like a fun spot that or the last sketch
of the night is my two favorite places to bit
oh wow, okay, okay, Flora uped it, but uh and
I walk in and it's fucking in and like I
looked at Seth and Seth was like, I can't believe
it either, buddy, And we're doing the read and we're
starting to get close to update and we're starting to
(44:52):
get notes and Jeff Blake just creeps up to the board,
takes the card, pulls it down, puts another card up,
and it just says Susie ormand show oh, and it
was like a political sketch where Jane Lynch was playing
Susie ormand the kind of tank or didn't whatever, I
don't remember how it did to be on it.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Do you think you can be honest? You're like it
kind of tanked because you.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Don't know what's tanked because I will I should see
it again and go, oh no, it didn't actually.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Okay that feeling when you're like mine is better, Mine
is better than the one you chose.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, you're trying to tell me that party for Burrow
like you know, like I was, and it got taken
off in the middle of that like it was in
and that had never happened in my nine years there
where they had made a decision and then renegged and
she just kind of leaned over and whispered, sorry, Susie
Orman's a friend of mine. Ah, And I was like devastated,
(45:46):
and it never got on and thats it.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Just went away Man party for Burrow.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, I keep it. Seth brought it up once on
to do it on Second Chance Theater and I was
just like, not even there. It doesn't even deserve to
be there.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
That would have been fun. I now want. I'm gonna
go look it up on the database. And also shout
out to Jeff Blake. You're remembering it was him who
took the car. We love Jeff Blake and the best
guy ever at snl Okay. I'm gonna end this by
asking you a piece of da advice, which is what
I do on every episode. I have a dad for
the day. You have been a fantastic dad. My piece
(46:24):
of advice, And this is why I was saying it
kind of relates to death. How do I articulate this, Dad?
I'm nervous because I'm getting in real time with you.
But in terms of savings, how much savings is the
right amount of savings? Would you say, Dad? Because I
oftentime with savings, go, what am I saving this for? Yes,
an emergency maybe if I have a gold in mind.
(46:46):
But I also could die tonight.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Save very different, very different. I would even say, from
like a couple of weeks ago. I've changed this before
the fires even okay, okay, which is save everything and
put it in a bank. You don't need anything I
have of this. I have a collecting I like to
collect things. I have a lot of stuff. I stole
so many props from Snel it's stupid.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Some un jail this man.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Oh yes, easily. The fortieth anniversary was me walking around
stealing things whenever Dana Carvey would put them down.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
I'm gonna take that, thank you, and this as well.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
I have his drumsticks from Wade and Garth. I literally
wear it within reach. Yeah, save everything, None of this
shit matters. I collected my whole life, and now I'm
in the process of like selling everything and just going
like I enjoyed it. I enjoy I loved it, but
like it's all like now it's just I go like,
I don't do anything unless it's for those kids, because
(47:48):
like I just everything. I'm gonna get dark for.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
A second, please please be real.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Losing both of your parents within six months of each other,
after leaving Saturday Night Live for nine years, getting married,
and having a baby, it was a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah,
in one year, and just even the physical task of
(48:16):
which I did solely alone, of cleaning out my childhood
apartment of everything that my mother and father owned, and
going like, this is all garbage. Yesterday it was their stuff.
Today it's garbage.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
So one man's trash is not necessarily another man's treasure.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
One man's man's tresch is also another man's trash.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Sometimes, so like it's like that, It's like it's it's
also like I want to lessen the amount of work
they have to like when I die, I want them
to go like, oh, he set it up for us.
It was nice, like because my parents did not do that.
I paid a lot of stuff off right, you know,
it was it was it was you matter.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
The things you do matter, right, and that is a
big lesson. Do you have a will?
Speaker 2 (49:09):
A couple?
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Okay, all right? Just one? Just okay, I don't know
what the I said. You could have told me you
had a hundred, and I would be like, I don't
know anything about them, and I should maybe get one.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Or I should and I don't know one for each identity.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Okay, Okay, I'm talking to Bobby tomorrow with Bibby. Yeah,
even in terms of stuff, like I'm not We get
so many things gifted to us, which is really cool
and people want us to you know, that press the
pr thing of it all, and I try to give
it away as much as I can because I'm like,
I don't need all of this stuff, and so I
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do a pretty good job with like actual stuff and
not hoarding. But then I'll do a good job of
like purging. But then I'll look up and I go, oh,
my gosh, I have a lot of stuff again, somehow,
despite having purged a year and a half ago and
giving things away that I'm gifted, and you just look
around and you go, this is so much stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Asnel enhanced the collecting too, because I was as somebody
who likes to collect things. And then you would wear
a T shirt during good nights and someone would go, hey,
you like this, and then they would send you cases
of this stuff, and then you're like, oh no, and
like and then your house is filled with stuff and
you're like.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yeah, that's exactly right. You go, I'm so glad you
clocked that I wore the thing and that I like
the thing, but I don't know that I need more
of the thing. It's just me.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
I want it. I don't need it, but I want it.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah. Sure, But even in terms of like financial savings,
it's kind of the root of my question. My money
comes to mind. I'm like, I should just have a
thick ass savings account.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
You think that, And this is just the truth. I
worked at a pizzeria Uno on Central Avenue and Yonkers.
I was a bartender for many, many years, and I
really just I was good at it, and I really
just try to assume no matter how many times I'm
on a mechanical bull with Tom Hanks, I could be
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bartending a pizzeria Uno again tomorrow so easily and be
fine with it.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Okay, that's where I need to be. Christ Okay, I
like this mentality less is more like some sense.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, it's it's Uh. Life is really fun and confusing
and complicated, and you can make it that way or
you can make and yeah, or you what's my other option?
Am I heard around I injured? What's what were you
going to say? My other option is oh, are you hurting? Oh?
My other no, my other advice that I heard as
a parent.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
You mean no, no, no, no no, but you were
you were saying life is really fun, and you could
it could be complicated, or you can make it that
way or or.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
I think no, no, no, I think right now, it's
that it's either you either are a victim or you're
or you're being the victim. And knowing when you're being
the victim because it's easier is a huge thing that
I didn't really fully understand. And we'll look back on
this podcast in a month and go, oh god, I
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thought I knew what I was talking about. It's just
that it's that it's you. Never there's always a bigger fish. Yeah, always, always, always, always.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Can I just ask one more thing, which is a
bit unconventional because at this point you've given me all
the advice. You've been a fantastic dad. Thank you for
telling me your tales of fatherhood. When you described though
you're leaving SNL after nine years and losing both parents
within six months of each other, getting married, having a kid,
and that short amount of time, Bobby, I felt attention
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on my end and I didn't live it, but I
know the SNL of it and how challenging that decision
may be, and how much you put your heart and
energy into that place, and how emotionally taxing SNL can be,
which a lot of people wouldn't quite understand unless they
worked there and understand how that machine works and how
what keeps that place together. Do you feel like you've
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come down from all of that in some sense, all
of that that that year you just described, have you
properly exhaled yet?
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Well? I could say this honestly now in the moment
because I'm a little bit more present than usual, which
is it was starting to happen, it was starting, I
was starting to calm down, and then the fiftieth it's
been like the fiftieth has like kicked up so much stuff.
When the fiftieth is over, that's I feel like the
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real healing begins. Then. Well, also, I'm just excited. I'm
I'm I haven't heard anything about I just can't wait
to go watch and be proud and then go home.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah. Yeah, that'll be fun and I think I think
it'll be very special. Pre fortieth post fortieth This is
my second post Dad Vice question. Pre fortieth post fortieth.
The difference for you energetically there you alluded to that it.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Felt like ramping up to something, and then it felt
very much like Okay, Now we just got to make
it to the fiftieth.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Oh wow, okay, okay, like.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
It just the the wave, Well, it was harder to
come keep coming in like season forty one.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yes, got it, Okay, got it. Yeah, thats fifty one
is gonna be harder. Well, some might say different and different.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
It'll be completely different because you're it's a different show
because the fifty it's over.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah, some might say the fiftieth is hard. Oh yeah,
you know, I can't. I don't know who would say that. Okay, Well,
thank you so much, Bobby. You have been an incredible
dad for the day. Thank you for letting me be
your daughter. Please you have a thought.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
I do the last thing just because it's literally the
best dad advice I've ever gotten, and it works. The
only thing you need when you're a father and you're traveling,
The only thing you need to bring is Painter's tape.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
Blue.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
They know that blue Painter's tape. Yes, you can make
baby gates out of it that are almost indestructible and
they don't hurt kids. You can make toys out of tape.
You could do anything with Painter's tape. Okay, you can
make you can tape off sections of hotel rooms anything.
It's okay, that's baby Gates being crucial. Wh gave you
that advice?
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I don't remember, but I should thank them because it's
the truth.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Okay, that's good piece of advice. That's very solid. I'll
keep that one. Dear to me. I'll be a mom someday, God,
and I will have my painters tape on me. Thank
you so much. Do I want to plug anything, dad, Bobby? Bobby?
Speaker 2 (55:17):
Sure check. I got a children's book called not All
Sheep Are Boring? You can get on the computer love Uh.
You can check out Loafy and Lightning Wolves or animated series.
I mean, I'm on YouTube. That's it for now. Oh
and I got a podcast called whom Me with the
Batman on Comedy Bang Bang CBB Presents, where I play
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Batman and I interviewed.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
I love it. I love it. Shout out to Scott Ackerman.
Another another one has been my dad. Yeah, my god, Bobby,
thank you You've been wonderful. Thank you so much for
doing this. And let's get lunch for you.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Such a bust.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Definitely thanks. Dad is a head gum created and hosted
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