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Awards season culminates with our passionate breakdown of the 2024 Oscars! We can't stop rewatching Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo's opening medley. Their journey from "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" through "Home" and finally "Defying Gravity" created a perfect tribute to the evolution of Oz stories throughout entertainment history.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bless you.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
God bless you.
Whoa Beautiful.
It wasn't a sneeze, it was aburp.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Oh, you had a little bubble held there in your throat
.
I sure did.
I love that you support the.
What are those brothers?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
The Paul brothers.
I wanted a Lonnie New, and thiswas all that was left, except
for Red Bull, which ew, althoughthere was one million flavors
of Red Bull there.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
They never stopped coming out with them.
I used to love the blue one.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I couldn't believe how many.
It was a whole case just of somany different colors.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well, that's why they don't have a Lonnie.
They got all the Red Bulls.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I freaking guess.
Welcome back to the alaspodcast with allison and alex.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm allison hey, I'm alex and it's the alas podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yep, and I don't know why.
I don't think I'll ever not beawkward and that's okay.
That can be my thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
So here's the always the bummer to this at us
recording on Mondays, or like usreleasing our episodes on
Mondays.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, is that like?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
every award show is always on a Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, are we done.
Now, though, are the Oscars theend, oh?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
okay.
Are the Oscars the end?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
No, we've had SAG Is it the end yeah.
We've had Emmys.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
BAFTAs.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
We've had Grammys.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
We've had the Brit Awards, of course, can't forget
those.
We covered those.
I feel like it's the end.
It might be the end.
Well, it's still.
It's just like now we'retalking about it, but it was
last week.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
But like.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I mean sound off in the comments.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I don't know, we would have to do an emergency,
we would have to change ourrelease date.
For that week or just in lifeor no, just in general, we would
have to move, we could do likelive streams I have thought
about that too, like try one atsome award show or something.
Yeah.
We could try for the Met Galaand watch the carpet and

(02:10):
everything and do a littlecommentary during the I don't
think it would necessarily needto be live, but we just record
ourselves watching it andimmediately edit and put out the
episode.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Could do that.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Either way, I'm going to talk about the Oscars.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, we have to.
I don't know what to do aboutit.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
First of, all, I would like to say that I held
true to the rumors that therewas going to be some sort of a
Wicked medley.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Oh, you did.
You said that.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Even though they were both like what are you?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
talking about.
Well, because I didn't thinkthat there was musical songs.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well, there wasn't really.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
There was two.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
There was three.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
We have Wicked or we had the opener.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, the opening.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
The James Bond tribute, oh, queen Latifah,
which I can't wait to talk about, that Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Okay, so let's just breeze through it.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Okay, breeze.
Well, I mean I just people are.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I don't know.
Listen, I have watched theopenings of the Oscars now at
least eight times.
Did watched the openings of theOscars now at least eight times
.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Did you cry?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
So much.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
So did I, and I didn't think I would.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I wasn't even sure if Wicked was going to be sung,
but just Ariana singingSomewhere Over the Rainbow.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, and she's singing it in her good voice.
She's singing it in her Arivoice, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
And the dress with the ruby slipper on the back.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
You mean she sung it in her ari voice as in, like her
uninfected singer?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
oh, I thought she didn't sing it.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh no, that was her pop vocals I thought that it was
more reserved than that therethere obviously it came through.
It wasn't glinda.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I thought it was her previous musical theater voice
oh, I just meant it sounded likeari, not glinda yes, I agree.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I just think it sounded like if you go back and
listen to her singing.
Except for that one time shesang something wicked at some uh
event and it was very thewizard and I at the wicked and
it was very poppy it was notgood.
That's why I was scared for herto be glinda.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
No, back in the day before that, her broadway voice
I feel like that was this wasmore of that than her full pop
like you know what's funny aboutthis real quick is that no
one's like you know how heralbum the one that just came out
no sweetener no, y'all it's Idon't know the names of the

(04:23):
albums, to be really honest Ilove the way, the one where she
has the song, the cover ofpopular and no one's like talked
about that like I didn't knowthat it existed duet where they
take the course of popular andshe, like, reimagines it and
it's, but it's the course ofpopular I've never heard that in
my life really no and the musicvideo is like her and this guy

(04:43):
end up like killing all thesepeople at a dinner party.
What yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
No, no one's talking about it and I didn't know about
it.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
And I'm like wait, why has no one talked about this
?
Like I loved that song, youshould listen to it.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
I will, I'll look it up.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
So that was amazing.
And then Cynthia, I was oh,it's gonna be a wizard of oz to
the whiz, then they are gonna dowicked.
Yeah, I was like they're doingall of the like, the iterations
of how this has progressed.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I haven't seen the whiz since I was very young, so
I didn't really.
I heard the song and I was likeI feel like I've heard this
song before, but I don't knowthe words.
I'm assuming it's from the whizwhat's crazy is we got two songs
from the whiz, yeah oh my gosh,yeah, um, so if you guys didn't
watch, which you might not have, so that's fine.
The show opened with Ariana andCynthia singing.

(05:29):
Ariana sang Somewhere Over theRainbow, cynthia sang what's the
name of the song Home, homefrom the Wiz.
And then they sang DefyingGravity, and I didn't start
crying until Defying Gravity,for some reason.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I started like tearing up during Somewhere Over
the Rainbow, and then, when Irealized what was happening,
when, when she turned her andwent, yeah, it's like, oh God,
here we go.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, but I and Cynthia saying effortlessly so
it was so beautiful, it wasfully live right.
Because, later on we get someunlive yeah.
It was fully, not on a live,but not live vocals it was live
as hell.
But yeah, it sounded justwondrous.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Oh, my God, I was so.
It was so good, it was so good.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, they looked great.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
They looked amazing.
And that's all and thenhonestly like the show for me in
general Was boring, Cringy.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Like there was so many uncomfortable moments.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
So many uncomfortable moments that I was like looking
away?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Do we go in order or do we cause?
I wrote things in order as theyhappened, but there is one part
that we have to talk about thatwas cringy Before you get to
that, and I know what it's goingto be.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's Amelia Perez when she sang the song.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Oh, my God, yes.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I think in general, conan o'brien not a great host,
which is weird because, like his, jokes were not landing every
like his whole monologue wasn'tlanding.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Actually there were some jokes that I I didn't laugh
lol, but I was like that's kindof like funny his, not his.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
So what's?
Here's how deep I am in thetaylor verse, so he did his like
I don't want to waste time,dance number, which, whatever,
that was a waste of time, but Ireckon I was like that's one of
taylor swift's dancers was oneof his dancers oh, wow and then,
um, nick paulie, who's the guythat did the dancing deadpool in
the movie.
I was like that looks, I wonderif that's him.

(07:24):
And and I looked and it is himwhich is like just a guy I
follow on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Got to portray that character and it was like a
funny number, but it's like why?
Yeah, I mean we got wicked inthe opening like just move on
with the show.
Yeah, three and a half threehour and 45 minute over other

(07:48):
comedians, I still I want theamy poehler, oh, I mean male
comedians, oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Jimmy fallon is really good, so I like jimmy,
but jimmy kimmel is a note forme.
I feel like I would like I likeconan over jimmy kimmel.
Yeah, and I don't know who else.
Billy, they should have hadbilly crystal, do it.
They brought him out and theymade a joke about it.
Then like let's, because he waspretty like I, like he looked.
First of all.
He looks so good.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
He looks better than he did on the shoot that I did
with him like eight years ago soyeah, something's going on and
meg ryan looked.
I know that's like later butshe looked so okay, go back, go
back.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Awkward moments so the next thing that I have down
is the james bond tribute.
I know that things happened inbetween there, but nothing
really.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
You've seen the substance now, right I have not.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I didn't get to it because at both times that we
were like we could watch thesubstance tonight.
Then we we got to nighttime andit was.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
We were both so tired and so all the spoilers of what
she looks like.
Were you like what the?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
no, I mean, I hadn't seen her yet, but I knew from
other things people saying thatshe gets decrepit at some point
decrepit understatement so Ithink the the visuals that I saw
does it get worse than that.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Okay, well, I'm not totally spoiled no, but the girl
for the james bond number, likeshe was doing that character in
the beginning.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I was confused as to is she in a James Bond movie
also?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Or is it just because I don't know if that's like a
nod to like, maybe she's in thenew series with Florence Pugh,
but then they haven't announcedwho James Bond is yet.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay Cause I was like why is she doing?
Why is she dancing?

Speaker 1 (09:20):
It was good, she was good, but that was from.
Like that's what she does inthe substance okay she's like
this dancer that like okay, thenit does make more sense there's
a strange tie-in in that regard, but I thought when they, when
it was the three of them, likeone, when I saw ray start
singing yeah, bless you, oh mygod thank you.
When I saw ray start singing, Iwas like, oh, they're gonna

(09:40):
give us a little of their newsong.
They didn't't.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Oh yeah, that was weird, and I thought there was.
I thought Billie was going tocome out.
I did too, because they didn'tsing her song.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
They didn't sing her song, but then Ray sang Adele's
song.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yes.
But I was like oh, it's alsolike why didn't Adele sing True?
She might turn, then maybe thethree of them are about to sing
their new single too.
Yeah, they didn't.

(10:13):
So lisa was amazing, but notlive.
No, not a single note was live,no, live, which that's very
k-pop too, like I don't.
I feel like a lot of k-popartists don't sing performer
super live.
Sometimes they do, sometimesthey don't.
I've had a very lisa filledweek because wait, had I gone to
her thing, what?
thing, okay, so you would know.
So after we get to oscar's talk, I will talk about that.
But I've had just a lisa filledweek with watching white lotus

(10:37):
and then, oh, I went to an eventand then this event.
So yeah, it was margaretqualley opened, then it went to
l Lisa singing and then Doja Cat, which she looked great.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Sounded great.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
And Ray sounded amazing, she's incredible.
I think that she's.
I'm glad that she's gettingrecognition now, Cause I feel
like she's been pretty not aswell known A little bit.
Yeah, Um so wow, so good Then.
Um so wow so good then, um Iwrote down.
We got to best supportingactress zoe saldano.

(11:08):
One and a little unhinged alittle bit kind of like the yes,
the screaming of the mommy wasa lot and I, I don't know, I
feel it lot.
I feel bad, but it was cringy.
Sorry, girly, it's okay andeveryone can be happy that their

(11:30):
mom is there with them.
Yeah, that was amazing, but thescreaming she like she scrimped
.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, she was beside herself, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Which I'm so happy for her.
I teared up, like I had tearsin my eyes, like it was
obviously very emotional and Iwas very happy for her, but I
just couldn't stop thinking ofthe mommy of it all.
Yeah so, but yeah, amazingspeech, beautiful, loved, uh
then.
And then now we're at bestoriginal song where they sang,

(12:05):
sang, amelia Perez, amelia Perez.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Amelia Perez.
Yes, they sang and it didn'tstop.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I thought if you, if you just sing, you know two,
three words as a send off, Ifeel like I would have been like
fine.
She didn't stop, that's fine.
It didn't stop.
It went on for like 15 secondsit was bad, it was really weird.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I had to look away.
I had to look away multipletimes during the show.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
What were other times ?

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I'm trying to remember the long speech that
was really hard for me to watch.
Oh, the couple that won bestforeign feature film.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And she couldn't read .

Speaker 1 (12:45):
He was like no, that's my section.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
She was like no, that's my section.
I actually didn't.
I, it didn't bother me thatmuch because they were foreign
and they were like we got herelike three hours ago and I feel
that they were very, um,frazzled, frazzled, so I didn't
think too hard about it, but butit was, it was, it was funny
and they could have just beenlike hey, one of us take it.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
And clearly not her Right.
No, not her.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
But yeah, and then uh , Queen Latifah singing Eason
down the road.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Wow, yep.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Somewhere in here I missed um writing down that uh
best supporting actor was KieranCulkin.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
That was uncomfortable as well.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
And I didn't.
I missed it.
So I must cause I admittedly Idid fast forward through some
things.
I watched the beginning liveand then I had to go to dinner
so I uh paused, and so then thismorning I finished it and I was
.
I was going forward on a fewthings, but good for him.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
So, yeah, he's on down the road.
It was a tribute to QuincyJones, which they also did, the
tribute at the Grammys, whichwas also long, but this wasn't
long, no it wasn't.
And I thought I mean long.
But this wasn't long.
No, it wasn't, and I thought Imean anytime I get to see queen
latifah perform I'm very happy,so good sounded so good, looked
beautiful um.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm always happy to hear her hasn't aged, looks the
same, just always looks she'sincredible.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I'm so yeah.
Uh, the dancing was really fun.
I need to look up who thechoreographer was, because I
really enjoyed the choreographyand I kept looking to see if I
recognize anyone.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I never do no, I did that's who you saw no, no, he
was in the opening number who'dyou see in that?
No, no, I just I mean, like yousaid, I never recognized, but I
did oh, you did.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yes, in general earlier in the show so, then,
best actress went to mikeymadison, and I've heard some
controversy over this same well,anora swept the oscars in a way
I was not expecting I knowbecause they didn't sweep in the
other shows, they got, they wonsome awards she won the bafta
for best actress I didn't knowthat it was a fully independent

(14:59):
film.
They only it took like.
They made it for like sixmillion dollars something yeah,
it's really expensive.
So as far as, movies go that'syeah Exciting for them.
I just can't ever see her asanything other than the yeah
Scream killer.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I can't, but I see her first as, once upon a time
in Hollywood, crazy Mansonfollower.
That like it's smashed.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, so I never finished that movie but I do
remember I didn't get to theManson part of the film, so I do
after.
I don't think I recognized herthen and then once I saw, cause
she was a bigger part in Scream,so her face sticks out to me
more in that, and then I think Isaw um once upon a time after I

(15:41):
had seen.
Scream.
Uh, so that's why I associateher more with Scream.
But her speech she was such asweetie Like I didn't.
I didn't picture her being justso tiny and reserved and like
soft-spoken and sweet, so Ithought that that was really
cute and sweet.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Demi didn't really react.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I know I thought for sure she was going to win.
Everyone did that.
That was really cute and sweet.
Demi didn't really react.
I know it's.
I thought for sure she wasgoing to win, or, um, just I
thought that Anora would havebeen last.
Like I could have seen Cynthiawhen, even though she didn't win
for other things, I could haveseen it, but I thought for sure
Demi was going to win.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
I feel like sidebar, that maybe the wicked they'll
like I'll get their props whenthe second one comes out, Cause
do you think that's?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
intentional that the academies like we'll get to them
next time, or was it just notan impactful movie.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
It could be strategy.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
It could be that because it's like didn't they
only win for what they won?
Three?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
categories three, but I don't remember what they all
were.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I'll look it up I meant to bring up a full list.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I do think they will get something for good, just
because I think it will, in thevoters' minds, be like wow, they
have done the work they did allthe press for movie one they
put in the work they performedat the Oscars.
Now let's give them something.
I also wonder if there's goingto be a new original song in the

(17:10):
second Wicked so that they canget a song nom.
Oh, something I hadn'tconsidered until thinking about
how they don't get to have asong nominated.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
What, okay?
Do they actually win this many,or is this what they were?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
They were nominated for 10.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh, so this is what they were nominated for.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
They won three Costume Production.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Production design is what I thought.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Production design costume the first black man to
win costume design was for.
Wicked.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
And something else.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
There was one other thing Best production design.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Hair and makeup.
Oh, some of these are namesthat I don't know which like of
course they had to win, thatthey built shiz yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
And it looked incredible.
So this must be a name ofsomething, name of someone that
I don't know, because what doyou mean?
I don, I'm only seeing the wordWicked twice.
So whatever else, oh no, thatwas production design.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Hey Siri.
What awards did Wicked win atthe Academy Awards?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Never mind.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
I can show them if you ask again.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Or maybe these aren't all the awards.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I just saw it together.
It was like Wicked winner ofthree Academy Awards.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
So anyway, Maybe it might just be someone's name,
and I'm not seeing the wordWicked, so I'm unsure.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Oh, like they won for this, yes.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
So best original score was the Brutalist.
Is that what we thought?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I mean again, I haven't seen it.
So you saw that brutalist wasgoing to like sweep the oscars,
which is why I kind of thoughtit would be that way and it
didn't mean that way.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
It didn't which was wild yes, so then best uh actor
was um.
What's his name?
Adrian brody.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, for the brutalist did you hear that they
like used ai to enhance hisaccent in that that movie in the
edit?
No, but that should be countedagainst him well, I just think
it should be known yeah, well, Imean it is known I, but it's
not like talked about.
Oh his his speech was annoyingas hell.
It was like dude, go.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
They've tried to play you off twice yeah, I saw
people being annoyed by that aswell, so best original song went
to um amelia perez, and I sawsome annoyance at that as well
that's the woman that.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
That's what we were talking about.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Oh sorry, yes, I just was.
I'm now.
I'm going back down the list tosee what I forgot.
Any big ones that I forgot tosay.
Original screenplay went to aNora.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Did Wicked win hair and makeup?
That might've been what it was.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
No, the substance.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh right.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Makeup and hairstyling.
That was good, though Bestsound went to Dune, which, like
honestly, I think we said thatright.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
We were like it's probably going to be something
like that.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
So yeah, and then we got to.
I said, yeah, meg Ryan andBilly Crystal looked great, and
then that was the end.
I thought that it was kind of aboring.
It was this year's award showswere kind of a boring show.
It was this year's award showswere kind of boring.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Is that because the movies were kind of boring.
No, no, I mean like Grammyswere kind of boring, like I
don't feel like there was.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Why do we?

Speaker 1 (20:34):
think that.
Why do we think they were likethat this year?
I don't know, maybe justrecovering from the strike is
still a thing.
No, it can't be.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, no, no one should have hosted the oscar,
who always does an amazing job.
Who and it's always funny neilpatrick harris.
Every time you host the oscars,it's perfect, he's a good host.
And then they can do moremusical things, because he's
actually good at that, correct,not like funny, yeah.
So yeah, that is the oscars wefinally got here, I'm exhausted

(21:04):
about it for so I'm exhausted byaward season, I'm.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
If it is really over, I think the next thing we have
to look forward to is, like thevmas, and that's just fun,
that's just fun.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, that's just a fun time, I do think miley's no
eyebrow look was a little yeahwork girl, though work it get it
.
So I, yeah, we're done.
But speaking of we're done,what was I gonna say?
I'm trying to look at my notesand I'm I wrote something down

(21:33):
that's.
I don't know what I'm trying tosay, but we didn't get to talk
last time, uh, because we hadpre-recorded about michelle
trachtenberg passing away havewe learned anything new since
then?

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I have not, but that was pretty shocking.
I mean she looked she had had aliver transplant pretty
recently.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, but she hadn't been public about why she needed
a liver transplant right, butyou could tell she looked
different.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Something was different about her look Kind of
emaciated.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, looking like pretty jaundiced.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Like.
So it makes sense that sheneeded that, but she wasn't
public about whatever herillness was, mm-hmm, so Nothing
new.
No, I'm trying to.
I see a headline that sayscause of death revealed but
mystery remains, so it'sprobably telling us nothing, but

(22:29):
I'll look.
Cause of death and manner ofdeath have officially been
released.
The medical examiner of NewYork City ruled the cause of
death as undetermined.
Okay, cool, but a lot of thespeculation was that her the
liver was rejected, like herbody had rejected the liver,

(22:50):
which is, I mean, I think, a bigthing that happens.
Yeah, her family declined anautopsy, so I guess we won't
know, but wouldn't, would theyjust say, like organ failure or
something.
I'm not sure 39, 39.
Harry, uh, harriet, the spygossip girl, ice princess, ice
princess wow the vampire slayeryes, a lot of uh her co-stars

(23:16):
put out, yeah, um statementswhich also blake lively did,
which was very brave of her andtime like such as this yeah,
also Gene Hackman passed away,that was wild his whole family
right, or was that someone else?
It was him and his wife and adog, but two dogs survived which

(23:39):
is interesting, but I wonderwhere they were, because the
initial thought was that theydied from carbon monoxide
poisoning.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
She was like face down in the bathroom with a
bunch of pills.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Oh, and he was in like a laundry room or something
.
Oh, so that right.
Where the pill like was it abunch of pills or was it like
she could have been like takingher medication and she passed
out.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
But why would she have passed out Cause?
Carbon monoxide kills you inyour sleep.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Well, if you're awake , then you would just pass out.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
No, you would get sick.
Like you would start gettingsick.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Oh, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Carbon monoxide poisoning.
When it hits you first, you'relike barfy and like headache and
dizzy.
But if you're asleep and ithits you, you just like fall
asleep, you just don't wake up.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yes, I know my sister .
When she was young, before Iwas born, and my mom, there was
like a carbon monoxide leak inour house and my sister woke up.
She woke up and was sick andshe went and woke up my mom and
I think they called my grandpaor something and he like told
them to get out of the house andso they ended up being fine,
but like definitely could have.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I might be wrong about Gene Hackman, though, I
thought I read something thatwas like very weird.
She was like kind of mummifiedwhat Her hands were mummified.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Like she wrapped, like they were wrapped In gauze.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
No, like they're starting to mummify.
I'm not trying to mummify.
She was actively trying tomummify herself.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I'm really sorry.
I'm all respect, but Idefinitely thought you meant she
was like her hands are wrappedin gauze.
Um, I don't know.
I'm trying to see if there'sany new headlines from the world
.
Uh oh, they tested negative forcarbon monoxide and no signs of

(25:32):
blunt force trauma.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Is it a duo-suo?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, but why wouldn't they be together?
If you're going to do that,hold hands.
Yeah, I don't know, I don'tknow, I guess we don't know.
I don't know.
Uh, I guess I guess we don'tknow right now, but I am
interested and if you guys havenever seen the movie Hoosiers,
you should watch it.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Hometown pride.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Hometown pride.
It's not my hometown but it is.
It is adjacent.
I can't get too into it, butthe here let me get into it
there's something about the, the.
The school that it's framedafter is called mylon high
school, which is a very smallschool, and the game that they

(26:19):
are in in the movie that's likethe pivotal game they were
actually playing marion Ibelieve in, like real life, that
they're marrying it after, butin the movie they make it a
different.
Okay, they, they have differentnames of schools, I see.
So I don't know.
Just a little side note youshould go watch it.
Sports, go hoosiers well, Iwent.

(26:41):
Did you get into this weekend?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
okay, I went to our friend emily had her birthday oh
yeah, and it was at this likecountry bar him.
I know you're listening um,this country bar hey, I know
you're listening this countrybar in Long Beach.
Let me just say First of all,emily gets there and she's like
I really was expecting a youngercrowd.
The younger crowd dideventually show up.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Okay, had she been there before.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
No, but Brian apparently used to go there a
lot in his college years, and sothat's how he knew about it a
lot in his college years, and sothat's how he knew about it.
Okay, it is.
So.
First of all, you know thoselike videos, those K K pop
videos, dance videos wherethey're just are playing music
in a park, and then, if thepeople know how the dance goes,
they just like run on and do it.
Yes, that is what line dancingis.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yes, I didn't realize .
Yes, I have a side.
I could not.
I had other plans that hadalready been planned before this
, so I couldn't go.
But three days prior I went toa different line dancing place,
so I'll talk about that after.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
But it was like they gave a lesson for one dance at 8
pm and we were all stillgetting drinks and stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
So we didn't get to participate.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
And then they have a floor where, if you know it, you
can dance on that floor.
If you just want to fuck around, you can go to this floor.
Yeah, and so we were just likeon the fuck around floor because
we could not, we did not learnand could not catch on to them.
There was a lot of like gulf ofamerica, hats and stuff like
that.
Like it was that vibe okay ofpeople, um.
And then okay, so our emily'sfriend trish, who I was at the

(28:05):
bacheloret of this, she was likefuck it, I'm gonna do the
electric slide.
A song comes on, she startsdoing the electric slide.
The gen zers, who have no ideawhat the electric slide is, jump
in and start like watching herto learn it.
She gets a whole floor ofpeople doing the electric slide
and we're just like, oh, my god,you could have done all the.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
The ones know the Cupid Shuffle.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I was hoping for the Hoedown Throwdown, but it didn't
come on.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
You could have just done the dance, though, cotton
Eye.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Joe, I was ready.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I don't know that one , really no, I just know the
song, I don't know the dance.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
There's a dance.
What's the?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
other one.
I'm thinking of the Cha-ChaSlide and the Cupid cupid shovel
cha-cha side cupid shovel.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
There's a third one that's like whipping nene.
Yes, sorry you can go.
It was a.
It was a cute little time.
It was a.
It was like a cash, only kindof place yeah huge um and in
long beach, but it was reallyfun and emily had a good time
and good.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
The place that I went was on the east side and stud
country no, it was called um.
It started in h was it more gay?
this one, yes it was more gay.
I don't know what it was called.
I can get it to you later, Ican put it in.
I can put it in the description, but it started with an h and
it was more gay.

(29:23):
The same thing they taught adance at 8, 30 one, and we did
it once and I was like, oh,they'll probably throw it in,
like in, you know, half hour, 45minutes, so that we can do it
again.
Didn't ever happen.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
They did it this place.
It was like 45 minutes doesn'tthat make sense?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
yeah, like we did it, we taught it, we did it once
full out with the music, andthen they were like okay, and
they moved on and I was like Ican't when it when it comes back
on.
I'm going to run out and didn'tdid not do it, so I was like,
well, that's kind of silly.
Um, I tried my hardest to pickup on them, but because they're

(30:03):
so the way that this bar was setup, it was like the stage and
then the dance floor and thenright behind that was the bar.
There was only a little spaceto walk, like a couple feet, so
most of the extra space was onthe sides and there was no fuck
around.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
No floor.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
It was like if you know the dance, you can be on
the dance floor.
If you don't and you're tryingto learn, no floor.
Okay, it was like if you knowthe dance, you can be on the
dance floor.
If you don't and you're tryingto learn, then you need to be on
the sides until you can learn.
And also, you couldn't havedrinks anywhere near.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, same.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So that was annoying to people that we were with
because it was like having adrink in your hand is like part
of the fun of being at a bar.
Yes, so that took out the fun,at least at the beginning, a
little bit.
but I was trying so hard to pickup on these dances and I would
get three-fourths of it, butthen because of the turning,
spinning and and directionchanging oh yeah it would take

(30:59):
me until the very end, and thenI would be like I got it, you
guys and I would like do what Icould, and then it was over and
that kept happening, and so Iwas like what am I supposed to
do here?
And then the one we learnednever came back on.
As we were leaving, they werestarting to teach another.
I think they taught one at 8,30 and one at 10.
So I guess you just have to goevery week for 10 weeks.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
So our observation was like the way people were
doing it is it's like you gowhen you hear your song, you set
your drink, your drink down.
You go up there, you do it, yougo back to your table.
Yeah, like you just go up whenyour song that you know is on
there.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
I guess, and in order to know it you have to go every
week.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Or just watch online.
Oh, true, because they're alllike specific, did you notice?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
I don't know how yours were, but, like we did,
one that I did end up picking upa little bit that was like
specific to the song, All theones that I believe were
specific to the song Because,like there were specific motions
to lyrics that were happeningand I was like, oh, so it's like
you can find them, learn themand then just go and have a time
and then be like I know thisone, Go do it and then get off
the floor.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
That's what people were doing.
They were going up and down andup and down, like, oh, this is
like a culture, this is a thingyou do it is.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
It is a culture, for sure it's not just like a, do it
once a year and go like yougotta really like no, if you are
in it, you have to be dedicatedto learning, which I, I guess,
like if it was a an event likethat, I would.
I could put in some work tolearn a couple of them, okay,
but it they definitely are nottrying to help you unless it is

(32:27):
the teaching moment.
Did yours do like partner, likecountry?
Two-step times, two-step it wastwo-step night.
Oh no, so it was like that wasthe majority of it.
That sucks, yeah, because itwas like slow.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
And the sound system was horrendous.
It was like not good.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I felt like I was in Footloose so I had a good time
in my head being in footloose,but it was very.
I want one that's like fullypop, because the one that I was
teaching when we were leavingwas to do a leap of levitating,
and I was like I wish that hadbeen the first one we learned.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
The vibe was cute.
It was like very what it wasyou know.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
And the food was very like it was just like.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
This is exactly what.
What you thought it was isexactly what it was.
I just wish they had a bettersound system.
Yeah, it was a good experience.
I wish I had been able to gowith you guys, but, um, I don't
know if it's something that I'minterested in being a part of.
Yeah, unless it is full poplike we're gonna try hip-hop
line dancing.
Give it to me.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, I don't and that exists now that I care, and
that's why we're gonna try studcountry.
Is that that?
Yes, what okay, well, let's go.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
It's like pop hip-hop line dancing wish I would have
known that that is something weshould try yes, and maybe we'll
try to learn a few before we'llhave we'll have a night yes,
where we watch a few of the mostpopular ones.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Just so we have like two or three in our back pocket.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Because it is kind of not as fun to not participate.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Correct, I agree and just watch.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, so okay, I like that.
Yeah, it's a fun thing to.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Plan yeah, that was on Friday.
And then you did you go?
No, that was on Friday, andthen you did you go.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
No, that was.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Saturday, did you on Sunday?
Huh, she did a yoga thing, ohshe did puppy yoga?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
No, I did not, so Sunday I just started packing or
was packing and then watch theOscars.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, so update.
I'm on a new workout journey.
At least for this month, I havepaused my CrossFit membership,
which is weird for me.
I know but I wanted to try.
What for one?
My back never gets a chance toheal my lower back, um, when I

(34:39):
do CrossFit, because there'salways some sort of movement
that involves lower back and itI don't.
I'm not injuring it, but it'snever fully healing.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
She's not bouncing back quickly.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
No, because I'm old.
So I wanted to give myself achance for that and I want to
work on my flexibility.
So I was like I'm gonna um goto yoga.
There's a place that I havegone a few times in studio city
that I enjoy.
It's small, it makes me notfeel they have hot.

(35:11):
They have like regular hot.
I feel like every place is thesame Probably.
I just feel very um relaxedthere, Like I don't feel like
I'm worried about people judgingme, Cause it's not a big box
place, it's like a small ownedplace.

(35:32):
So I have decided that at leastthis month I'm going to do that
.
I don't know, I might extendinto next month.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Are you doing this through like class pass?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
or class pass.
Yeah, so that's my journey andI'll let you guys know about
that, because a lot of my lowerback pain it could could be
fixed by, um, my regularstretching of my quad, uh,

(36:07):
muscles and stuff.
Because from what I've learnedfrom friends that are like
physical therapists and stuff, Ilike the muscles in front wrap
around to the back and sohopefully that will help and if
not, then I've promised Joshthat I will go to the doctor,
okay.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
So You're trying the natural way first.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yes, good, and I want to try out the whole, like
working out with lower, lowercortisol.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Like if that makes a difference.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
So I'll report back.
Dodgeball has started for me inmy other league, which I miss
you guys, and I'm sad that I'mnot gonna be able to play with
you guys well, yeah, that'sright, because, yeah, I forgot
you guys are starting, uh, thespring league in the other
league that we did.
I didn't think about this, butI couldn't have been able to

(37:04):
play anyway because Josh came tome with the cornhole league.
So I'm playing dodgeball andcornhole right now.
I can't believe how sporty.
I am Sports podcast um playingdodgeball with our old, our
original team we started with,but in a different league, and
then Josh and I are going toplay in a cornhole league, um,
and then Josh and I are going toplay in a cornhole league Um

(37:24):
Wednesday nights, because we'refrom Indiana and his friend um,
who's pregnant, can't playfootball anymore.
So she was like I want to dosomething.
And they found this cornholeleague and so she was like, oh,
you guys should play too.
So we were like we're pretty,we're pretty good at cornhole,
and we might as well dosomething like that, that's fun

(37:45):
so we're doing that.
But back to dodgeball.
That started this past week.
The week before we had like anintroduction thing.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
It wasn't like actually you played every team
for like a little bit yeah, sothis was our first actual game
did you get a cooter puncht-shirt no, there's no, we are
not doing any t-shirts for this.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
A lot of them that played for cooter have they're
just wearing their old shirts,but not uniformly, just like
whatever.
So this league is way moreserious and people are way
better.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
It's like the nicer gym though.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
It is, but I don't like it because the balls go
everywhere.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Right, it's a curtain divider, yeah, but I don't like
it because the balls goeverywhere.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Right, it's a curtain divider.
Yeah, cause at the the gym thatwe played out before, there is
a big net divider and thenthere's walls, and so the ball
is not going everywhere.
Like the ball can go behind theother side of the gym, you have
to run forever from ourtournament there to run, it goes
in the other other person'scourt and the game has to stop

(38:44):
like every five seconds, like itis not my favorite thing to do,
but every people are muchbetter.
There are way more people that,quote, play for team usa or
have played for team usadodgeball before, which does
actually exist.
When josh and I were in santabarb, we were randomly put on
ESPN and there was a full liketournament being played, so and

(39:09):
we watched it, so it does exist.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Is it played the same as our league, though Like?
The size of the teams and allof that.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Exactly the same, um, but people are way more serious
and better than me and I feellike I am the weakest player on
the team.
Oh, are you the newest no,there, actually is a guy on your
team harris is eris on yourteam?

Speaker 1 (39:32):
no, she's not no she wasn't part of cooter punch.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
No, she wasn't, she wasn't oh, they had just asked
her to play for that yeah no,she's not, um, but yeah, I feel
like there's me.
I'm not the newest.
There's a guy who I think thisis his first time.
There's a couple guys that arehis for their first time playing
.
One of them is just like areally athletic guy that he
plays volleyball and otherthings, so he is naturally just

(40:00):
picked it up quickly.
There's another guy who maybesame level, maybe a little bit
newer than me, so like hasn'tfully like gotten into it yet,
but I feel like I'm one of theweakest links, which is really
hard for me.
Yeah, but we'll see how it goes.
I didn't do much this past gamewell, I have nothing to report.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I want to come see one.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
You're always welcome .

Speaker 1 (40:26):
I went boxing.
I box every day, but on Friday,this past Friday, we were
joined by a celebrity, so I gotto box next to Mr Big from Sex
and the City.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Oh my gosh, that's, really cool.
He's also so tall and big.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
He's my height and he can hold his own.
He can really do it.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
It was his first class.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
He's on beat, thank God, and he was doing the like
floor work.
It was a box and lift class, sohe was like doing the whole
thing.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
His first time.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
His first time.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Ever yeah, or just for him there.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
When he didn't have wraps on his hands.
I was like does he know whathe's doing?
Then we started boxing.
Like he knew all thecombinations and the numbers and
I was like was he with anyoneor just just himself?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
we walked out to our cars together and I was like
good job.
He was like thanks, brother.
Oh my gosh, that's such a.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
So I immediately sent a message to angela and she was
like so she's already signed upfor friday's class.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Like I don't even care, I'm gonna go up to him.
What if you become really goodfriends with him?

Speaker 1 (41:22):
that would be funny.
He was kind of canceled.
That's why they killed him offthe show but I couldn't figure
out why it's okay.
It's okay, we don't have to getinto it, but he was very nice
to everyone.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Do I have to hate him or not?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I don't know but he did a great job.
He was a really good boxer andlike he looks exactly like
himself.
And what's funny is like I havejust started watching like old
movies, not old movies moviesthat I really enjoy, that I
haven't seen in a long time, andlast night I watched castaway,
which I haven't seen since like2003 yeah and he's in that movie
and I was like why, how heplays he mean he's a lot, but

(41:54):
yeah, I know, but it was justlike what I only think of what
is this?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
what is he doing?
That he?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
plays.
So bonnie hunt remarriesbecause she thinks tom hanks is
dead and he's her husband.
Also, like I don't know why, myrecollection this is such a
sidebar.
My recollection of that moviewas just like Island.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
But that's only like an hour of the movie.
The other hour and a half isthe before the Island and the
after the Island.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, I honestly that sounds like a good movie to
rewatch.
I haven't seen it in a like.
Oh yeah, this movie does havesubstance and like a good story
and it's sad as hell.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
It feels like something I would watch on an
airplane, like rewatch on anairplane.
There's a plane crash, youwould do that.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's why, yeah, I watched titanic the night before
I went on the first cruise.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I went on I watched titanic the other night too.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I'm just like, oh well, that's a given sure that
can be anytime at the day,anytime of the year.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I watched Notting Hill.
I'm just like on these oldermovie kicks, but anyway.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
so he was at boxing and Angela is stoked and I hope
he comes again on Friday so thatshe can see.
I'm going to ask him for apicture.
If you start coaching, maybehe'll come to your class.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I know I would.
I would probably reach outbecause he was standing.
We were at the same, we werenext to each was going off of me
when you couldn't see low um,which just gave me more
motivation to be extra good.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, I'm sure you are Thanks.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Well, speaking of older things, maybe I don't know
if this is a good transition,but this is kind of everything's
old news.
But have did you hear aboutDanielle official fighting with
Maitland on her podcast?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Danielle Fishel.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Danielle Fishel, who is Topanga from Boy in the.
World Fishel.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I thought her name was Danielle Fisher.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Hmm, no, it's O-T-H-E-L, f-i-s-h-e-l.
Huh, I did.
I did hear that on TikTok.
Yeah, so I have a question whydo you hate us, or something
like that?
That was crazy, so I have thepage six article.
I did.
I listened yeah but um somaitland plays.

(43:58):
What character, hello exitsean's girlfriend, right?
No, she's in porn, it's not hershe's the red haired oh yeah,
the porn actress yes, she was onDanielle's podcast called pod

(44:19):
meets world, which hate the nameI get.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I get that I get it, but she had to but she co-hosts
with writer strong and willfriedel.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, so I get it, but hate the name, yeah, and
yeah, she's just like do youhate us?
It was crazy so blunt andmaitland was like I know I don't
hate you, but you know, I thinkshe said I think that you hate
me because you wouldn't speak tome on Girl Meets World and that
was hurtful.
And Danielle's like Wait, didshe play a part on Girl?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Meets World.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I think that they all kind of came back and did
little.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Even though she was in porn.
I mean I'm glad I yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I don't think that I think that they all kind of did
little cameos so I I think thatpeople weren't.
Yeah, I didn't even know she didporn, so I don't know how well
known it was.
Maybe they were like, not thatmany people know.
And white chicks love yeah,that's another movie I need to
re-watch.
Um, so word said that shelearned that fishel had
unfriended her on facebook whenshe attempted to send her a
heartfelt message in 2013, whichis so funny.
Like you guys are, so 2013,adults relax.
And she said uh, danielle saidshe didn't, did not see the

(45:32):
message until 2022 when shetried to contact her about
coming on the episode of thepodcast.
And, like everyone, why are weon Facebook?
I think that you can ask aroundand get her contact from your
manager or her manager, orInstagram literally anything
else Like don't be so millennial, yeah, facebook.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Like relax.
And so then Ward said that shefelt official reaching out to
her was disingenuous, especiallyafter she felt disregarded on
the Girl Meets World set.
And she said you had anattitude about it, there was
something between us and Ididn't get it.
And danielle was like um, shebasically said she didn't

(46:16):
remember having an issue withher and she said that the girl
meets world set was a verydifficult set for her.
And so she was like I didn'tknow that you felt that way and
whatever, but the, the waythey're going back and forth is
so like yikes and it was justreally awkward.
And she said, let's put it thisway, the memories we have on

(46:39):
the set of boy meets world werenot the memories on set of Girl
Meets World.
And also, why was Girl MeetsWorld such a problem?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, wait why?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I don't know Like what was going on.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
So dramatic?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Be happy that you're back working.
Okay, it says Danielle broughtup how Ward has spoken badly of
the cast in past interviews.
Almost any time the podcast isin the news.
Oh, she's on, only the news.
Oh, she's on, yeah, only fanssaid that she didn't listen to
the podcast regularly becausethe hosts spew a lot of
negativity.
Danielle denied the claim,saying the same way you wrote in

(47:12):
your book about yourexperiences doesn't mean they're
negative.
They're just experiences.
So don't listen to the podcastregularly, but your overall
opinion is that we're negativeabout Michael and Ben on the
show.
Okay, and then she was likeyou're just grilling me to get
ratings and so like what is it?
Why are you on the podcast ifyou hate it I don't know.
I don't know whose side I'm on.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
I'm sure that the whole thing just feels dramatic
danielle comes to me like.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Looks like she could kind of be bitchy yeah but also,
why are you on this podcast ifyou hate it?
If do you hate us?
Because it seems like you do,yeah, and it seems like you just
came on to say that.
It feels like it felt like itsounded like she had been
building that up in her head.
Yeah, to be like, I'm gonna saythis when I'm on there, I'm

(47:54):
gonna bring it up, knowing thatit was gonna get headlines and
knowing that she was gonna be100 talked about.
It seems like it was contrivedor it seems like she planned it,
and also I think both thingscan be true.
I think danielle could havebeen a bitch to her and I think
that maitland could have plannedthe sabotage of do you hate us,
right?
Or the type thing oh no, Iguess danielle is the one that

(48:15):
said do you hate us?
oh sorry, yeah, it is sowhatever I just said actually
doesn't make sense, but hercoming on the podcast in general
if she feels weird about it.
It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Correct.
It feels like she can't say sayyou only wanted this for
ratings, because then why didyou do it?

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Why did you come on?
I don't know.
It seems really silly andreally childish, so both of them
probably just need to cool it.
Relax, that's the word of todayfor me.
Relax, relax, relax, zoe Sald,that's the word of today for me.
Relax, relax, relax, zoe sodana.
Yes, no, that's that's hard tosay she won her first oscar.

(48:52):
Okay, all right, I take it back, it's okay.
Well, the only other thing Ihave written down is do you have
thoughts on bethany frankl?

Speaker 1 (49:00):
who is that?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
in In general oh my gosh, real Housewives of New
York.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Oh, skinny Girl Wine, or whatever.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Skinny Girl.
I have thoughts on that.
I don't have thoughts on her.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I just wrote it down.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I just like wanted to talk because she makes 500,000
TikToks a day.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Oh, big conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Conspiracy theorist.
She's always eating caviar andtalking about the caviar.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
She's been on the drones happening and like that
was her thing.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
She's been on the drones.
She's always like yeah, she'salways eating caviar on crackers
and she'll.
She's like trying, she tries tobe so relatable.
Sometimes she's like I'm goingto the drugstore to buy
drugstore makeup because it'sjust as good as whatever.
And then she's like I gotturned away from Gucci because I
was like I looked disheveledand then she went back the next

(49:47):
day looking put together.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Big mistake.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Huge no, that energy for sure.
And then she'll be like anotherthing where she's trying to be
relatable and she's like I loveMcDonald's.
And then she's like the nextday eating caviar on a cracker
and it's whiplash.
But she makes 5 million TikToksa day and I just was seeing so
many in a row and I was like Ineed to talk about this, like

(50:14):
you are all over the place and Ifeel like she's a polarizing,
polarizing person.
But I also think that she is so.
She's so calculated but alsocomes off as not.
I don't, it's she.
I could it's confusing.
I could do a whole courselearning about what she's doing,

(50:36):
because it works for her.
She's making a lot of money,but also, are you okay?
Yeah, I have no thoughts, but Ihave so many thoughts, yeah,
and I just wanted to know if youwere locked in on bethany talk
like I am no, I'm sorry that'sokay.
That's all I mean.
I don't really have a lot.

(50:57):
I don't know what my thoughtsare, I just know that she's an
entity.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
There's something going on.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yes, she's a lot, and what is real and what is not
real.
I need someone to is it herdaughter that's that had the
viral sound no, oh no no no,that is uh from new jersey, that
is um oh yeah, I know you'retalking about.
I can picture that's so funnyyeah, no, but there was a weird

(51:26):
thing that happened with Bethanyand her daughter because they
were on vacation somewhere andthey were in like some sort of
gift shop and there was a dildolooking thing, that, or maybe a
food item or I don't knowsomething that was penis shaped
and her daughter and her werelike joking about it or she let

(51:46):
her daughter buy it and theinternet had a huge reaction to
this because she's a minor andBethany was like I, my daughter
and I talk very openly about sex, like I want her to not like
shy away from that and me alsoteach her you know proper ways

(52:09):
of talking about it andprotection, and I like I don't
want her to be scared to come tome if she has a boyfriend and
they want to have sex, likestuff like that.
So she's like we are open aboutthis, so it's.
I'm not going to pretend likeif something is shaped like a
penis, I'm not going to be like,oh, let's not look at that, so

(52:30):
it was a whole thing.
Um, so I thought that's, Ithought that's where you're
going with that question, but Idon't know.
She's just a enigma to me.
That's like what?
You're so rich you were on theReal Housewives of New York.
But you also tried to to comeoff as like the people's

(52:51):
princess and you, you do thingsthat aren't rich and oh, I'm
just like you.
I shop at TJ Maxx and I'm like,do you actually?
Because if you do, then thencool.
But if you're just pretendingso that people you come off
relatable, then I am annoyed,agreed, and I can't decide which

(53:13):
one it is, and I think that'swhy I needed to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
You're gonna have to do a little more, you're gonna
have to watch a little more butI don't think we'll ever know,
because I watch.
I see her every single day andshe's not on the show anymore,
so like no?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I don't think I'll ever know.
And she's a genius for that.
Yeah for sure.
Keep people guessing.
She refuses to be perceived shemakes me want to eat caviar,
but like do I?
I don't know.
Maybe, so anyway, BethanyWrinkle.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yes, girl.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yes, girl, Do you want to hear?
Do you have any more?
I don't you want to hear.
Do you have any any more?
I don't you want to hear thebirthdays for today?
I do well, my birthday wasyesterday, so happy birthday to
you, thank you, we're gonna goto disney yeah, we need to talk
about that later.
Bad bunny is 31, a baby, achild not that much younger than

(54:01):
us.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
But I just can't I thought he was our age I guess
Chuck Norris 85.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
A baby, I'm just kidding.
Emily Osment is 33.
Oh, okay.
Olivia Wild is 41.
Malika Hack, who is KhloeKardashian's best friend, Malika
.
Oh yeah, Malika 42, which Iwould just watch the episode of.
First of all, another podcastname I hate chloe in wonderland

(54:29):
didn't know that was a thing getout.
She just launched it like three, four weeks ago um hate in
wonderland, doesn't?
really roll wonderland hate it.
Yeah, uh, but I just watchedthe episode she had Malika and
Khadijah on and I actuallyreally enjoyed it.
Chloe is actually not bad atpodcasting.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
She's always, I thought, been a really good like
she's very eloquent, yeah, Goodat speaking, and interviewing
and also not so uptight Likethat episode.
Let's not forget, she hostedthe X Factor.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Lest us not forget.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah, let's not forget.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Um they not forget yeah, let's not forget.
Um they talked about their uh,past partying days and stupid
things they would do and likemen they would go home with.
Like it was very just like fungirly pop and I really enjoyed
it but, I hate the podcast name.
Okay, I don't know what itcould have been.
What's something off the top ofyour head?
I mean chloe talks.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
That's better to me chloe in la la land, like I
don't know why it was chloe inthousand oaks keeping up with
chloe chloe in hidden hills.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Keeping up with chloe chloe in calabasas that is
played out because we we stillhave not gotten um lamar and oh
right, which was keeping up withsports right, still has never
come out nope but side note, thedo you have?
you don't watch the kardashians,do you know?
So this new season started outwith chloe and lamar reuniting

(56:00):
for the first time in like yearsnine years or whatever, I don't
know a long time um at Malika'shouse and they she had stuff to
give him, some awards and somelike stuff from his mom that she
had still kept from when theybroke up.
And he is, he gets in there,he's like super late and she's

(56:23):
really annoyed at him.
And then he's like sweaty andso nervous and he doesn't know
what to say.
And then, when he warms up andhe chills out, then he just
starts calling her his wife andlike baby, and she's like I
don't know you anymore.
Stop calling me your wife.
We got divorced.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
And it's very much like he's in love with her still
, do they have a baby together?

Speaker 2 (56:47):
no, no that's not him , okay.
No, the baby is with um.
What is his name?

Speaker 1 (56:52):
tristan oh right, tristan, yeah and he.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
It's very apparent that he's in love with her still
and she's like yeah, I don'tknow you, and I did so many, I
wiped your butt when youcouldn't, so like I am looking
at you very differently thanyou're looking at me and
honestly they might be in game.
Maybe they should get backtogether if he really is a

(57:16):
different man, because honestly,the chemistry is still there.
Even though she was like don'tcall me your wife, it was still
like.
She was like rolling her eyesand I could be like I could see
them back together.
But he would.
He would have to be a hundredpercent reformed because she,
she can't have that in her life.
But anyway, malik is 42, andalso Khadija, for that matter,

(57:38):
yes, even though she wasn't onfamous birthdays and I am sorry
that is crazy.
Robin Thicke is 48.
Thought he was way older.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Me too, a hundred percent, john Hamm is 54.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Timbaland is 53.
Looks great.
Yeah, sharon Stone is 67.
Looks great.
Mod Sun oh 38.
Okay, no, I thought he wasyounger, to be be honest,
because he gives younger to me.
Oh yeah, honestly, he gives GenZ to me.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Yeah, I could see that, and he was with Bella
Feels like that.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, so he's 38.
Now we're into pop culturethings, speaking of Mikey
Madison, scream 6.
Is that?
No, she was in Scream 5.
Dang it that?
No, she was in Scream 5.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Dang it, that would have been crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
It would have been Scream 6 premiered in 2023.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Cute.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Series or movie.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
The series in 1997.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah, Michelle Trachenberg.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Oh my gosh, wow, wow.
Well, she didn't die on thisday.
That would have been crazier.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
No, correct, we, we were talking about her.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Yeah, and then the show 60 days in premiered in
2016, and have you ever watchedthat?

Speaker 1 (58:47):
I put that on here because what a crazy show yeah,
wait, that's the 90 day, fiance,no what 60 days in is where?

Speaker 2 (58:57):
oh sorry babe one sec 60 Days In is where regular
people go willingly into prisonfor 60 days to give information
to the guards and to the they goundercover.

(59:18):
Yeah, sorry they go undercover,but willingly.
Oh, okay, undercover, butwillingly okay, and they observe
what's happening in the uhwards in terms of uh
paraphernalia and cell phonesand gangs and all this stuff.
And then they, um, they theyprobably know now the the

(59:43):
inmates that are have are inthere for a long time.
I'm sure they've picked up onit now, but the original premise
was that they said they werefilming a documentary and that's
why there were cameras in there, and then they would cameras
and new people cameras and newpeople and they would pull
inmates for interviews.
So they would pull multiplepeople and they would pull the

(01:00:03):
person who's in there undercoverand then in the.
So they would pull multiplepeople and they would pull the
person who's in there undercoverand then in the interviews they
would tell them what's going onso that the wards and the
wardens and the police and allthese people know in real time
what shady stuff is going on.
It was risky and then if itgets too scary, they will pull

(01:00:24):
them, got it out.
So they're always monitoringthem.
But men, men and women andthere was a time where I was
really watching this show hardbecause it is so interesting
yeah, that is I feel like thethe female ones were way less
going on.
Okay, they would fight,sometimes argue, but I feel like

(01:00:46):
they're chilling way more themen Wild.
So, honestly, if you guys havenever watched, I recommend it's
pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
It's like an A&E show .

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Definitely, or TLC maybe, I'm not sure.
If you guys have never seen it,watch it.
I don't know if it's stillgoing, because the whole premise
is that people can't know thatthey're actually doing this show
.
So if they did it a bunch 2016now is so long ago that I don't
know now if they're like we'refilming a documentary If the

(01:01:18):
inmates would be like, yeah,right, no, you're not, who's the
snitch in here?
And we're gonna get you in themiddle of the night anyway,
that's that give it a watcheveryone give it a watch and
with that we are signing off forthis episode.
We uh?
Yesterday was my birthday again, so thank you all for the well

(01:01:42):
wishes that I'm assuming thatyou will be giving me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Some of them have already sent.
I saw on the video today.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I saw on the video today, some people have already
sent you well wishes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
I thought you had just like given away some secret
thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Oh you thought it wasn't recording.
I thought it wasn't, but it isOkay.
Everyone, I love you so muchand I will see you.
Oh, not just me, she loves youand she'll see you.
I forgot that it was a vlog fora second.
We will both collectively, seeyou next time.
Bye, bye, the A-list.