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Hi, I'm Susie Garden
and this is the Ageless and
Awesome podcast.
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Hello, gorgeous one, andwelcome to this week's episode
of the Ageless and Awesomepodcast.
I'm this gosh.
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How do I start this week'sepisode, the topic I'm going to
be exploring today.
It can be a little bitconfronting, it can be a little
bit scary, and that is not myintention.
My intention is to educate,because when we have knowledge,
we can make better decisions.
So I just wanted to put thatlittle disclaimer there, because
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some of the stuff I'm going totalk about is essentially what
I'm going to be talking about.
Sounds kind of boring, but it'sactually very interesting.
Is endocrine disruptingchemicals?
All right Now, when I first didmy training in natural medicine
and I learned all about thesekind of chemicals, I actually
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thought it was a little bit ofoverkill.
I thought it was I don't knowif I'd use the word a scam.
But I actually didn't think itwas real because I had such a
long history in the conventionalmedicine side of things and it
had never really been mentionedin any of the circles that I was
in, and so I just thought itwas a bit of an overkill or a
bit dramatic, because I you knowsome of the, I guess, behaviors
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you sometimes see in thenatural health world can be a
little bit out there, but oftensome of that out there stuff
ends up being true anyway, whichis kind of interesting to me.
But anywho, that's not where Iwant to go today.
So what I wanted to talk aboutwas endocrine disrupting
chemicals.
These can also be known asxenoestrogens, that's with an X,
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x-e-n-o, estrogens, and theseare essentially substances in
the environment.
So that can be in the air, itcan be in the soil, water supply
, food sources, personal careproducts and other sort of
manufactured products.
And these chemicals, these EDCslet's call them, can interfere
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with the normal function of yourbody's endocrine system.
I'm going to explain what thatis in a minute, and the thing is
these chemicals come from manydifferent sources.
People can be exposed in anumber of different ways, even
on a daily basis, because thisis we're talking about.
You know, pollution in the airwe breathe, additives in the
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food we eat, and it's not evenjust processed foods that these
additives might be in.
This could be in things likeour veggies, our meats, our fish
, because they get exposed.
If it's fish through the ocean,we know that.
I think we all know, don't we?
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That a lot of our big pelagicfish they've got a lot of heavy
metals in them and you do needto be careful with how much of
that you eat.
I think most of us know that ifthe soils are contaminated with
some of these chemicals, thenthat's going to come up through
the food chain.
So it's not just processedfoods, it actually is even whole
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foods that can contain theseendocrine-disrupting chemicals,
even the water we drink.
I went to a talk last Fridaywith a gastroenterologist and he
was saying around 90% of thewater that gets tested has at
least, at the very least, tracesof glyphosate, which is Roundup
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, if you're familiar with thatbrand.
So we're taking that in ifwe're not filtering the water.
And these EDCs can also enterthe body through the skin,
through the products that we puton our skin.
So when you think about it formost of us on a daily basis.
We're probably exposed onmultiple different pathways into
our bodies, and this is why itcan be a bit scary.
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But don't worry, I'm going totell you some things you can do
to help.
So what's the endocrine system?
I guess that's important.
So the endocrine system, it'slike this network of glands and
organs that produce and storeand secrete hormones.
So they're like reallyimportant, particularly for
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women in perimenopause,menopause, for younger women,
teenagers, anyone that is goingthrough changing their hormones.
In particular, it's reallyimportant.
Pregnant women.
It's really important Generallyin our bodies when we're going
through change.
So that's growth.
So kids, for example, gothrough a lot of change.
That's when the endocrinesystem gets involved at a higher
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level and that's where you canget problems if you're not
looking after your endocrinesystem.
So when everything'sfunctioning really well, the
endocrine system works with theother systems in your body.
So you know, that's why aholistic approach is really
important, because all of thisis interconnected and so the
endocrine system works withthese other systems to regulate
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the body's healthy developmentand function throughout our
entire life.
And so when these endocrinedisrupting chemicals are coming
on board in the numbers thatthey are these days.
They can interfere with thatnormal function of the glands
and organs that produce, storeand secrete hormones.
So super important that we havean awareness of what is going
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on so that we can do somethingabout it.
So what these EDCs endocrinedisrupting chemicals do, so
they're either chemicals ontheir own or they're mixtures of
chemicals that interfere withthe way the body's hormones work
.
So some of them are what wecall hormone memetics, or they
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mimic the hormones and they cantrick the body into thinking
they are hormones, right.
And then other EDCs block ournatural hormones from doing what
we need them to do.
Others can increase or decreasethe levels of hormones in the
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blood by affecting how they'remade, how they're broken down,
how they're stored in the body.
And finally, other EDCs,because there's a whole bunch of
different groups of these orclasses of these, so other ones
can change how sensitive ourbodies are to different hormones
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.
And the thing is, we know fromresearch that these EDCs can
disrupt many different hormonesand that's why they've been
linked to things likealterations in sperm quality,
for example, and fertility,therefore abnormalities in the
sex organs, endometriosis.
There seems to be a link therepotentially early puberty.
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I was talking to mysister-in-law on the weekend.
She was saying now that theaverage age of puberty or young
girls getting their periods, islike 10, which is pretty
outrageous.
Altered nervous system function, problems with immune function,
certain cancers, respiratoryproblems, metabolic issues which
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is where that's where I like toplay Diabetes, obesity some of
these EDCs are actually calledobesogens.
I think I've got that rightObesogens.
I think it's obesogens actually, so we're going to talk about
that too.
But also cardiovascularproblems.
They can interfere with growth.
So I was mentioning with kidsbefore, neurological learning,
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disabilities and so much more.
Again, I know this sounds scaryand that's not my intention.
My intention is to help youwork with our environment so
that we can protect ourselveswherever possible.
All right, I know it's scary, Iknow when I learned about these
things in uni, I was like Ithink part of my skepticism was
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probably because I didn't wantto believe it, because it is a
little, you know, overwhelmingwhen you first hear about it.
So some of the sources of thesecommon EDCs are things like I
mean, I say industrial chemicalsand you might think, well,
that's not me, how do I havehave?
I don't work in a factory, howdo I have access to industrial
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chemicals.
But the thing is, theseindustrial chemicals and
pesticides can leach into soiland groundwater.
They can make their way intothe food chain by building up in
fish, as I mentioned before,other animals, and also,
therefore, they're getting intopeople.
Non-organic produce can havepesticide residues.
Some consumer products containthese EDCs or they're packaged
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in containers that can leachEDCs, and things like fabrics
treated with flame retardants,cosmetics, body creams, products
with fragrances Hopefully I'llremember to tell you my story
with fragrance, antibacterialsoaps.
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That's a really interesting onebecause of the rise of the use
of those Processed foods.
I think that's fairly obviousbecause we all know that many of
us have sensitivities to someof the additives and
preservatives in processed foods, things like MSG, things like
red food coloring, that kind ofthing.
So we know that trace elementsof those little additives can
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impact our behavior, impact oursleep, give us headaches,
migraines, et cetera.
But they can have other effectsthat you may not necessarily
associate with that particularpreservative or additive.
So I think most of us wouldthink, okay, processed foods, we
kind of know they're not thatgood for us, but some of them
are quite delicious.
Some of them are disgusting,but some of them are quite
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delicious, so you know.
But yeah, these processed foodscan accumulate traces of EDCs
that leach out of the materialsthat are used in making them,
manufacturing them, processingthem, transporting them, when
they're stored.
Household dust household dustcan contain EDC such as lead,
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flame retardants and PCBs, whichis another chemical from
weathering kind of constructionmaterials or furniture,
particularly if you're an oldhouse.
I think gosh, I mean it'd haveto be pretty old paint in
Australia to still have lead init.
But that was certainly aproblem back in the day,
certainly in my lifetime.
So that was certainly a problemback in the day, certainly in
my lifetime.
So that's something.
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Also if you're in a really oldhouse that hasn't been painted
for like a long, long decades,then there could still be traces
of lead in the home in the dust.
So it's really kind ofimportant to be aware of this
and I mean I've got a list oflike some of these chemicals and
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where you might find them.
It's pretty easy to find thisinformation too.
By the way, this is not secret.
This is pretty easy to find ina quick Google search.
If you're sort of a little bitskeptical about it, feel free
Google away.
There's a lot on reputablescientific websites on the
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Endocrinology Association, inclinical papers.
So that's where I'm getting myinformation from.
On top of what I've alreadylearned, I wanted to do a little
update for myself and, as youknow, I do have the Radiant
Reset Hormone Detox Program forperimenopausal women, but really
anybody could do this.
And yeah, when you kind of lookat the list of things, that you
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probably have them in yourhouse and so when you know about
it, you can get rid of them oryou can limit your intake of
them.
The kind of things that we knowand in terms of how these EDCs
impact the body I mentionedbefore, like neurological and
behavioral changes, I thinkwe've all kind of, I think,
heard that you know people'sparticularly kids', behavior can
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be impacted by these sorts ofadditives to food.
But it's also the chemicals andI guess I'll talk to my story I
mentioned before with perfumes.
When I did my, when I was at unistudying nutrition and
naturopathy, I decided, afterlearning about all of this stuff
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, to stop using perfume.
So, like I'm, I don't haveperfume, I don't have perfumed
personal care products, anythinglike that, and this is what I'm
loving, I guess, over the lastoh gosh, probably well over 10
years now.
The rise of using essentialoils and things like that in
products has meant that youdon't have to go without the
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beautiful smells, becausethere's so many great
alternatives to using chemicalladen perfumes.
But I really noticed myselfwhen I stopped using and I was
using some pretty popular kindof perfumes, good quality stuff,
I won't mention names.
But when I stopped using it andI don't know how long it took
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my migraines I used to havequite regularly.
They all went away.
And I don't know how long ittook.
My migraines I used to havequite regularly, they all went
away.
Now I don't know if it's theperfume, but I think it's
probably more than a coincidence.
I feel like my mood improved,my ability to handle stress
improved and what I now know isbecause I still have some of
this leftover perfume right,because I don't want to throw it
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out because it's so expensive,but like it's really old now, so
I probably should throw it out.
But when I put it on which isprobably only a couple of times
a year to me now it smellschemical.
Even though I can still smellthe smell of the perfume, it
actually makes my body just go.
Oh, I don't want to wear this.
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I think my body now innatelyknows this is not good.
I shouldn't be having this onmy body.
And now what I tend to do isI'll spray it on my clothes or
I'll spray it in my hair, justso it's not actually on my skin,
cause I started feeling alittle bit kind of weird about
it.
So yeah, that's my story withperfume.
So I'd highly recommend even ifyou want to test it for
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yourself, even if you want totest it.
I reckon if you went like eightweeks without putting on just
perfume, particularly if you useit every single day, I think
you'll really notice, when youspray yourself again with it,
the smell and pick up some ofthat chemical stuff and you
might even notice someimprovements in your own mood.
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If you get migraines, you maynotice an improvement there.
You may notice an improvementin your cycle if you still have
one.
So I'd be really interested tosee if people are willing to do
that.
Get back to me, message me atSusie Garden Wellness or my
email, hello at susiegardencom.
I'd love to know if you noticea difference.
Anyway, getting back onto someof these impacts of EDCs in the
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body, so some have been linkedto obesity and type 2 diabetes.
We know that some industrialchemicals and flame retardants
can interfere with thyroidfunction.
We know that thyroid problemsare real, very, very common over
40, sometimes younger.
Common over 40, sometimesyounger.
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We know that fertility isdeclining, particularly in
younger people, and there issome theories around maybe it's
because of the massive amount ofexposure to chemicals that
people under 30 have hadthroughout their entire life
that that could be acontributing factor.
Also, cancer there's definitely.
We know that exposure to theseestrogen mimicking kind of
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chemicals can promote breast andprostate cancer growth and or
interfere with hormonal cancertherapy.
That's not a theory, we knowthat.
And we know that prenatalexposure to some of these EDCs
may alter mammary glanddevelopment and increase breast
cancer risk later in life.
So that's fact, that's not justtheory.
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So that's the kind of sort ofscary stuff.
Other thing is if you alreadyhave a hormonal imbalance right,
if you already have a medicalcondition or you have, you know
you have terrible PMS or youhave any other sort of hormonal
condition or imbalance thatyou're going to be potentially
particularly vulnerable to theseEDCs.
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So you know, most of theresearch has been on estrogen,
androgen and thyroid disruptionright, because it's probably the
most easy to detect in the past, but now we have evidence that
other hormone systems are being,you know, impacted, including
insulin systems that's for thepancreas, that's an endocrine
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organ Oxytocin and vasopressin.
So these are important forcertain medical conditions.
I'm not going to go into that.
If you have these issues, youknow what I'm talking about.
And so if you have diabetes, ifyou have cardiovascular disease
, if you have an endocrinecondition, you probably should
be getting as many of these EDCsout of your life as you can.
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And the thing is that you mightthink, oh, surely the
government is protecting me.
I was really shocked, and a lotof the data I'm reading is from
America.
But I was really shocked thatin one of the articles I read
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and this was on the Endocrine Ithink it's the Endocrine Society
, the Endocrine Association ofAmerica, and so this is what the
endocrinologists they aremembers of this association,
that's their professionalassociation and they were saying
that in the United States theyhave very loose policies, way
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looser than Europe, way looserthan Japan.
And it was really interestingwhat the comment have not kept
up with the science and we arewoefully inadequate to protect
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and are sorry, woefullyinadequate to protect public
health Compared to most othercountries, us policies covering
EDCs are lax to non-existent,and there does not appear to be
any appetite for reform anytimesoon.
Thus often, products made forthe EU and Japan, for example,
are often less toxic than thesame products made for the US
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because of the differentregulations.
It's very interesting, and thething is, this is not an
insurmountable problem.
The science tells us that we'retalking about hundreds of
chemicals, not thousands, okay,and even though hundreds sounds
like a lot, if policy was put inplace it could be better
managed.
However, it's really, at themoment, reliant on manufacturers
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to voluntarily make the move tomove away from things like BPA,
for example.
We already know about BPA inlike, and I think it's really
difficult now to get BPA inbaby's bottles and things like
that, like it used to be.
But I think you'll still find,if you're buying like tinned
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foods I buy, you know, tinnedtomatoes, tinned veggies, tinned
lentils, et cetera If they areplastic lined tins, which they
are if they don't actually sayBPA free, they've probably got
BPA in them.
So that could be a problem.
It could be leaking into thatfood, which is not great.
So the thing is, as I mentioned, I don't want you to panic.
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I don't want you to be reallyscared about this because
there's some really easy thingsyou can do to help reduce your
exposure.
And some of the things and Italk about this in the Radiant
Reset program is things likereally simple, like when you buy
new clothing and particularlysheets, towels, that sort of
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stuff that you know that sheetsin particular, because you're in
there for eight hours, right,and I know it's really tempting
when you buy new sheets, justpop them straight on the bed.
But you will notice, right thatwhen you get those sheets the
first time, they're beautifullycrisp, no kind of wrinkles in
them, and then you wash them andthen you'll be more likely to
get wrinkles.
And it's because they use thesechemicals to keep those sheets
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looking good in the packaging.
So you'll buy them right.
A lot of this is all aboutgetting you to buy it because it
looks good.
So washing sheets before youuse them critical the majority
of clothing unless it's organic.
That's why you're seeingorganic cotton sheets and
organic clothing and that kindof thing.
It's because it's not going tohave all those chemicals on them
.
I would still be washing themif it's the first use,
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particularly if they've beenwrapped in plastic, things like
using fragrance-free productswherever you can, or if they're.
This is the thing.
Essential oils great If it's notthe actual essential oil, if
it's just natural fragrance orwhatever.
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I'd just put a little questionmark there.
So essential oils are great forthe most part.
Not ingesting them I wouldnever, ever recommend ingesting
them unless you're under apractitioner and I'm talking
like a qualified degreequalified practitioner, not an
essential oil salespersonBecause there's a lot of damage
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you can do with ingestingessential oils.
Anyway, that's another topicfor another podcast.
Yeah, so fragrance-freeproducts, but also natural
products wherever possible.
Limiting your use of plasticfood containers and I've been
using for years now, glass foodcontainers.
Now they do have a plastic lid.
It's really hard to get a goodseal without that plastic lid,
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but just make sure the food isnot touching that plastic lid if
you're reheating, and thenyou'll be okay.
Buying organic wherever possibleNow there is you may have heard
of the dirty dozen and theclean 15.
So the dirty dozen are the mostheavily pesticided foods and
the clean 15 are the least.
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So I know buying organic can beproblematic just from a supply
point of view, from a cost pointof view as well.
So if you can buy organic,that's great.
If you're limited, then go andhave a look.
Just Google clean 15, dirtydozen 2024, because they update
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it every single year becauseobviously things change.
So that's a really cool thingto be able to do is to get an
updated list every single yearso that you know how to spend
your money and your food budget.
Um, yeah, if you can limit youruse of canned foods or look for
the BPA-free sign they tend tobe more the tins that you would
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buy at an organic shop or ahealth food shop, particularly
if you have a hormonal problemor if you're perimenopausal I'd
highly recommend it.
Also, avoiding soaps andcleaners with antibacterial
chemicals, soaps and cleanerswith antibacterial chemicals,
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and also invest in a highquality water filter so that
you're actually getting goodchemical free water.
Also, things like if you canavoid toxic cookware, so you'll
see it like PFAS, pfas freecookware would be ideal.
Like PFAS, pfas free cookwarewould be ideal.
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Um, but yeah, just trying tokeep your products as natural as
possible and the good thingnews is, a lot of that is very
cost-effective to use naturalproducts.
It can be very easy to find, um, good quality natural products
that aren't super expensive.
So what else?
Ah, okay.
So another thing is looking atyour detox pathways.
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So, as well as avoiding thechemicals as much as possible,
supporting your body's ownnatural detox processes will
help to get rid of thosechemicals that are already in
your body.
So the most, I guess, commonveggies that are fantastic for
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supporting particularly theliver.
The liver does a lot of theheavy lifting when it comes to
detoxing the body, because evensome of your other organs of
detoxification for example, thelymphatic system almost
everything is going to shiftthings back into the liver to
get rid of.
So foods, what we callcruciferous veggies and they're
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things that contain sulfur,because sulfur is one of the
molecules that your body, yourliver, rather needs to do it
support its detox processes.
So you're looking at thingslike you're and you know, just
pick from these ones that youlike.
You don't have to eat foods youdon't like Brussels sprouts,
kale, spinach, silverbeet,garlic, onions, gosh, so many
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things.
If you Google cruciferousveggies or cruciferous foods,
you'll come up with a lot ofthem.
Also, things that can help arethe foods that are high in
antioxidants.
So all your dark colored fruitsand veggies are fantastic.
Things like apples are reallyhigh in antioxidants.
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They're also good prebiotics.
That is fantastic.
Also looking after your guthealth.
So, because when the liver doesdetox, the those toxins are
going out in the fecal pathway.
So you want to make sure you'removing your bowels frequently
and so making sure you've gotgood prebiotic foods in your
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diet.
Making sure that your guthealth is optimal.
If you're getting bloatingregularly, it probably means you
need your gut health looked at.
If you've got chronic abdominalkind of discomfort or pain
reflux, for example, or ifyou've got diarrhea, if you've
got chronic constipation andyou're just constantly taking
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laxative type products to clearyour bowel and you're becoming
quite dependent on that, naturalhealth practitioners can help.
So reach out.
I work with people all over theworld and help them with all of
this sort of stuff.
Under the confines often of theGLOW protocol, because there's
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a fair emphasis on gut health inthat.
But yeah, it's super importantto support your detox pathways.
And another aspect of that isdrinking lots of water, and I
probably talk about this almostevery week, I reckon.
But 35 mils per kilo of bodyweight is ideal, maxing out at
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around four liters.
Okay.
Now, obviously, if you havecardiac issues or if you have
kidney issues.
There may be some limitationsthere.
This is never individualizedadvice.
This is all general and foreducational purposes, okay, so
just be mindful of that that itmay not be appropriate for you
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as an individual some of thisstuff I'm talking about.
So always check in with yourhealthcare practitioner, or if
you want to become one of myclients, then you can do that as
well.
So, yeah, I think that'spossibly all I want to talk
about.
I guess I probably just want todive a little bit into these
obesogens.
So these obesogens I love thisword.
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I don't know why, but I do sothere's, if you can Google that,
that word is O-B-E-S-O-G-E-N-Sobesogens.
So these are endocrinedisrupting chemicals.
They're specific ones that thatare obesogens not all of them
are obesogens and they promotefat buildup and cause weight
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gain.
And again, these are thingslike your pesticides, your
herbicides, your householdproducts, your industrial
chemicals that come in throughthe water and through the food
chain plastics, some detergents,flame retardants and personal
care products.
The same sort of things come up, and they've used animal models
.
They've looked at groups ofpeople that show that these
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products and foods for some ofthem are causing hormone issues
and in this particular case,they're causing obesity, and so
this is really important.
The other thing, just as anaside, something like when
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people work with me and loseweight, right, and they're often
losing significant amounts ofweight and you know, even a kilo
a week.
A kilo if you've ever seen amodel of a fat, a kilo of fat,
rather it looks it's about thesize of a standard loaf of bread
that you get at the supermarket.
You know that's a kilo of fat,pretty decent, right.
And if you're losing I meanoften in the first couple of
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weeks of my program, people aredetoxing they can lose two to
three kilos a week, sometimesnot everyone, but sometimes, and
that's a lot, right, and yourliver is processing that.
But, interestingly, they've doneresearch on people undergoing
weight loss, specificallylooking at what's going on when
people are releasing this kindof fat tissue.
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What's going on in the blood?
Are there toxins in the blood?
What's going on in the blood?
Are there toxins in the blood?
What's going on?
Because we know that the fattissue stores toxins.
I don't think I mentioned thatyet in this podcast, but when
the body doesn't really knowwhat to do with something like a
toxin, it'll chuck it in thefat tissue, because the fat
tissue is generally stable,right, and it'll just kind of
deal with it later.
Fat tissue is generally stable,right, and it'll just kind of
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deal with it later.
So they've done blood testing inresearch conditions in people
that are on weight loss programsand they have found, yes,
absolutely, they do get a risein heavy metal levels in their
blood.
They also get increase inestrogen, because we know that
when we have excess fat tissuethat can store estrogen, it can
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act as its own little kind ofendocrine organ, actually, and
so and it can impact things likewhen we're looking at obesogens
specifically, it can impactwhat's the word?
It disrupt hormones such as ourleptin and our ghrelin, and
they're our hunger and satietyhormones.
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So that can also contribute tothe weight gain, because it's
driving people to eat more, morethan they need, because you're
just always feeling hungry,never feeling sated.
So, yeah, I just thought I'dadd that little bit on about the
obesogens.
So I hope this has been helpful.
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As I mentioned, there's a lotyou can do to protect yourself.
So, in terms of just avoidingthose chemicals, but also the
things you can do to supportyour body drinking water, making
sure your gut's working well,making sure you're getting
enough prebiotic foods, which isfiber and supporting your liver
health, um, so yeah, if youhave questions or concerns,
please let me know.
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You can message me at SusieGarden Wellness.
You can email me hello atsusiegardencom If you want to
book in for a pre-screening call.
If you're thinking no, I'dreally need an overhaul, then
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I'll be back on Thursday withQ&A.
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