Oxygen, Light, and Healing: How EWOT Is Changing Recovery for Chronic Illness and Aging | Ep. 294 - The Aging Well Podcast

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Is it possible that oxygen and light hold the key to healing
chronic illness, restoring energy, and aging well without
pharmaceuticals? Welcome to the Aging World
podcast, where we explore the science stories and strategies
that help us live longer, healthier, and more purposeful
lives. I'm your host Doctor Jeff
Armstrong, an exercise physiologist with a passion for
making science simple and life better as we age.

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Today's guest is Brad Pacelli, founder of 1000 Roads, an
organization built on the beliefthat healing should be
effective, safe, and accessible.After facing a cascade of
serious health issues, autoimmune arthritis, Lyme
disease, and even cancer, Brad discovered that traditional
treatments weren't enough. He turned to exercise with
oxygen therapy and red light therapy, not just to manage

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symptoms, but to reclaim his energy, clarity and mobility.
Frustrated with the lack of quality systems on the market,
he built his own and in doing so, launched a movement.
Today, Brad empowers others withpractical tools and knowledge to
support recovery, vitality, and aging well.
Brad, welcome to the Aging Well podcast.

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Let's have you take it back to the beginning.
What led you down this path of alternative healing?
Oh, man, yeah, that was so. It was 15 years ago or so now.
My whole life I'd had all sorts of like weird medical things
that would happen to me, had some strange autoimmune stuff,

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and then had all these like kindof symptoms and issues that
would kind of blink in and out of my life.
But then I would go see a doctor.
They would give me maybe a name to it, but it just, it never
really went anywhere. There was number treatment that
necessary and it kind of just went away on its own and that
was just fine and good. I moved on with my life until

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the autoimmunity became autoimmune arthritis and then I
started to take all sorts of progressively powerful immune
modulants or probably immune suppressants is probably a more
appropriate word. And they would work for a while
and then when they stopped working, I would be even sicker,
even more sick. Excuse me.

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So and so eventually that the stopping point was the one of
the side effects of some of these medications is they have a
higher risk of cancer and one ofthose cancers is Melanoma.
And I developed Melanoma and young father, father of young

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children rather. And so I went back to my
rheumatologist and I said, well,geez, I've got cancer, what do
we do? Obviously I can't do these meds.
And he says, no, we'll just try a different one.
Maybe it will react differently.And I looked at the 1 he wanted
me to take and, you know, side effect was Melanoma.
And the likelihood of getting Melanoma again once you've had

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it is incredibly high. And so it felt like playing with
fire as I started to read about it.
And so I needed, you know, I kind of said to the doc, I said,
well, gosh, it feels like eitherI die of painful death of this
autoimmune arthritis or I die ofcancer.
And I like, is there a third waythere?
Is there something else I can do?

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And he said, you know, excuse me, I forgot to turn my phone.
So he said to me, you know, no, no, I think we're going to be
fine. And I didn't feel fine.
So I started to do my research, and I started to look for
another way out, a third path forward, if you will.
And I tried all sorts of things for several years.
I was not doing very well. I was continuing to get worse.

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And I mean, I tried just about anything you could think of.
And then lo and behold, I moved to the Dallas area and I got a
new Doctor. And after about a year of
meeting with him, he recommendedI'd try to do exercise with
oxygen therapy. He actually said, you know,
you're really sick. And we kind of, like, have tried

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all the big guns and nothing's working for you.
So I recommend you either do hyperbaric oxygen or exercise
with oxygen therapy, which I hadnever heard of.
I'd heard of hyperbaric, but I'dnever heard of E Watt.
And so that that was really kindof a turning point for me.
So for those who are unfamiliar and you know, we were talking

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before we started recording, this is actually my dissertation
title so I'm somewhat familiar with it.
But what exactly is exercise with oxygen therapy and how does
it work? Yeah, yeah, most your listeners
are probably like I was on that day.
What is this thing? I've never heard of it and it's
exercise with oxygen therapy actually is a pretty close

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cousin to hyperbaric oxygen, so I'll use that as a comparison
point. So in hyperbaric oxygen, you
would enter a tube and they would pump it full of oxygen
while under increased pressure. And that increased pressure will
push more oxygen through your lung membrane and into your
blood and not just your red blood cells that normally carry

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oxygen because those are pretty much at capacity.
If you were to put like a pulse oximeter on your on your finger,
measure your red blood cell capacity, you'd note that you're
probably close to 99% to capacity.
So not a lot of room in the blood for more oxygen.
But under high pressures and hyperbaric, it actually pushes
oxygen into the blood plasma. So ewat works a little bit the

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same way. Instead of using pressure to
push more oxygen through our lung membrane, we use
cardiovascular exercise to pull more oxygen through.
And so when you're exercising, your body immediately recognizes
that it's kind of in an oxygen deficit It's it's not it does
not have enough oxygen to do theexercise because oxygen is the

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core ingredient, if you will, that helps our cells produce
energy apartment and so ATP excuse me.
And so when it recognizes that it it doesn't have enough it,
you start doing different things.
You start breathing more deeply and your lung membrane fins to

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allow more oxygen to pass through parts of your, your
circulatory system that are in contact with your lungs that
normally aren't in use. And it recruits those
capillaries to allow a greater gas exchange.
And then of course, your heart'sbeating faster and deeper and
your blood vessels are dilating.So we effectively are are

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hijacking all of these physiological changes that occur
during exercise when your body'sthirsting for the oxygen and we
feed you near pure oxygen, 93% oxygen.
And so in in a 15 minute sessionof doing cardiovascular exercise
while breathing from this mask, you can bring in as much oxygen

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to your body as you would take it in about 12 to 14 hours in a
normal day. It's a massive amount of oxygen
and and it's equivalent to aboutan hour and a half in a hard
shell hyperbaric chamber. Not the soft shells that you
might see people like LeBron James or others doing in their
home, but the hard shell ones that you have to go to a

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doctor's office to do. So it's 90 minutes, and a hard
shell is about equivalent to 15 minutes.
So you kind of answered the question ahead in regards to how
the two compare hyperbaric oxygen therapy versus Ewok.
But are there any other benefitsor big plus signs for the
accessibility of one versus the other?

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Yeah, there's so many. So there's several benefits of
EWA beyond hyperbaric #1 Hyperbaric is incredibly
expensive. If you went to a doctor's office
to do a session, it might cost you 400, it might cost you $750
a session. So this is something that's very
affordable. Number 2 is, as I mentioned, it

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takes 90 minutes in a hard shellchamber, plus time to pressurize
it, depressurize it, time to getto and from the doctor's office,
etcetera. To do one of these sessions.
For most folks, we're probably talking in the range of three
hours, which you could do for a couple weeks, but you really
can't do that continuously. That's not accessible to most
folks, both financially, climatecommitment, but this is

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something you can do in 15 minutes in your own home.
All you need is a piece of cardio equipment and an E Watt
system and you can do it. And for my research, you also
get the benefit of the exercise itself too, because you can do
more exercise under hyperoxic conditions and you can in kind

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of normoxic conditions. Or you know, as most people are
aware, if you go to altitude, you're not going to be able to
get as much oxygen. So we're really kind of
reversing the effect of being ataltitude and going down to sea
level. We're now going from sea level
down even lower. And so, yeah, I think this is
really fascinating cause for me,you know, looking at the
exercises, OK, there really enough practicality there, but I

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didn't have the brain waves enough yet at that moment 30
years ago to think, OK, well, this has a therapeutic benefit.
And so how does this over saturation of the oxygen in the
blood system during movement help to enhance healing?
Yeah, you're right. And I don't want to, I don't
want to skip past that point. I think you bring up something

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really good, which is one of thehuge benefits of it is you're
doing it while you're exercising.
So you're getting all the benefits of exercise and as
we're about to go into, you're going to actually improve your
exercise capacity. So it's very synergistic, both
help each other and it's a very powerful combination.

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So as I mentioned, when you're breathing this oxygen while
you're exercising, it's not justflooding your red blood cells,
which are pretty close to capacity.
It's also bringing you into yourblood plasma.
Now, blood plasma is greater than 1000 times smaller than a

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red blood cell. And this is important because
plasma can get to parts of your body that red blood cells can't
get to. And what happens to all of us as
we age? We get something that is now
called inflammation. This theoretically, this belief
that, you know, it's inevitable we're all going to get more and

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more inflamed as we get older. And so this inflammation is
happening all over the body and inside the capillaries, some of
which are thinner than a human hair.
This, it causes swelling. The inflammation obviously
causes swelling and it can causethe capillary to swell shut.
So now you've got this capillarythat's swole swollen shut and no

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red blood cells can get through.And so all the cells downstream
that are supposed to be fed by this capillary, they're now not
getting oxygen. And they go from what's called
aerobic respiration, which is where the cells produce energy
using oxygen, to what's called anaerobic respiration, where
they burn glucose without oxygen.

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Now, the problem with that is anaerobic respiration produces
about 5% of the amount of energythat aerobic respiration
produces. So now if you can imagine you're
a cell and you've gone from 100%energy down to 5%, all of a
sudden you're in survival mode in all non essential functions

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cease to occur. And that includes things like
taking the trash out, removing metabolic waste and other
toxins. But it's worse still because
when you're using anaerobic respiration, you produce a
massive amount of metabolic waste, including things like
lactic acid. Anytime you've worked out and
you're sore the neck two days later, that's a buildup of

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lactic acid from anaerobic respiration.
During those exercises, your cells ran out of oxygen.
They switched to anaerobic respiration and produced this
lactic acid. And now your body needs to work
to both remove the lactic acid and repair the damage it's
causing to the cells. But if it remains anaerobic, it
just lets it sit in the cells and continue to harm it.

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So when we do E Wat first, the very first thing that happens is
the blood plasma is able to passthrough those blockages in the
capillaries and start feeding oxygen to these downstream
cells. And the next thing it does is it
creates an anti-inflammatory effect on the lining of these

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red blood cells. They're called endothelial
cells. The lining, that's its swelling
and it causes them to open back up.
So now you're done doing ewat and your red blood cells are
also able to feed those downstream cells.
So like to dimensionalize this for people, every year has the

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age of 25, your body loses 1% ofthe ability to utilize oxygen,
which doesn't mean very much at 26.
But by the time you get to say age 50, you've just lost 25% of
your oxygen utilization capacity.
And so you can imagine now you've got all these cells that
are starved. And that's why as we age, we

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have more inflammation, we we feel lower and energy status, we
think less clearly and we have alot more medical challenges.
Is is largely due to this drop in oxygen utilization.
And in the 1960s and 70s, there was a gentleman named Van Arden

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who did a bunch of research on hyperoxic training, as as you
call it and as it's known in science or what we call EWA
exercise with oxygen therapy. And what he found was he was
able to reverse this oxygen loss, this inflammation in the
capillaries and reestablish blood flow.
So #1 and this is huge is it causes this anti-inflammatory

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effect that has benefits all throughout the body and
particularly in reversing aging in the circulatory system.
But then doctor, when you all ofa sudden these cells come back
online and they're, they're utilizing aerobic respiration
and they're, they're getting up to full power, if you will,
again, they can start to detoxify, right?

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They can start dumping all thesetoxins they've built up inside.
And so ewat helps you detoxify in several different ways. 1 is
what I just described, giving the cells the oxygen they need
so that they can detoxify. Second, people don't know this,
but our biggest detoxification organ is actually our lungs. 70%

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of all the toxins in our body actually exit through our lungs.
So obviously ewat's helping us there.
And then the third way is when your body is trying to detox
from just about anything, it uses oxygen to what's called
oxidize or breakdown these chemicals into smaller chemicals
that our elimination organs can handle, whether that be our

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kidneys, our liver, our intestines.
And so oxygen is at the core of breaking these things down to
digestible chunks that our body can remove.
And so, so Ewod's benefits are it's very anti-inflammatory,
it's anti aging in the circulatory system, it's
detoxifying. And then of course it helps

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with, it helps with clarity of thought.
Our brain has is about 2% of ourbody weight and uses about 20%
of our oxygen. So obviously giving it the fuel
it needs improves short term memory, improves clear
headedness. It's it also helps with just

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general energy and sleep. And the sleep one kind of
surprises folks because they think if you're being energized,
maybe it's going to keep you up.But there's a lot of research
that shows your, your sleep status and quality of sleep is
linked to your the oxygen statusof your body.
And then the other one that's not really so well spoken about
is that oxygen is very anti cancer.

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So cancer cells thrive in low oxygen environments.
And so when you when your body starts to have this
inflammation, that's why the cancer rates also increase as we
get older. They thrive in this
inflammation. And what's the medical term for
low oxygen is hypoxia or a hypoxic environment, as you

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know. And so in these hypoxic
environments, that's where cancer thrives.
It uses hypoxia to metastasize and it uses, and there's just so
much research on this that showsthat the survival rate of people
with cancer is directly correlated to the oxygen status
of the tube. So when we have good oxygen, we

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can stop cancer at its root and we can actually help to reverse
some of the cancer as well. And for our listeners and
viewers who might be thinking, well, just breathe high 100%
oxygen and it's going to give meall these benefits.
My one of my mentors when I was at the University of Toledo and,
and unfortunately, we didn't connect all these dots back
then, but Michael Flynn was verymuch into exercise immunology.

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And one of the last papers he wrote before he retired, they
coined the term inflam inactivity, which is a mouthful
to say, but it was kind of building off of the the premise
of the, you know, immuno inactive or was.
Immuno aging, Yeah. Gosh, like it's kind of like
immunosenicence, yeah. But they put, you know, they

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connected the dots with, you know, that it's not only just
the fact that our immune system begins to decline as we age,
we're also much more inactive. And that inactivity leads to
further complications within the, the, our medical health.
And so that combination of the exercise and the oxygen reaps
even further benefits that people are probably less aware

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of. Yeah, and you can even speak to
some of the the benefits of the oxygen with the exercise and
what it does for folks, ease of exercise and then their their
capacity to exercise etcetera. What were your experiences?
Yeah, I I should have gone back and reread through my
dissertation because that was like 27 years ago.
But he's. Lying.

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It's only 10 years ago. No, it was 27 years ago, just
over 27 years now. I think I graduated in 98.
I forget the exact numbers. We did see a significant
increase in work capacity with the oxygen and we only used 85%.
So we didn't go. I think that was what we used.

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So we didn't go quite as high asyou said, 93%, that's right.
I would hypothesize would give you even greater work capacity
capacity. So if you're doing that greater
amount of work, you're able to provide a greater stimulus to
your body to be able to adapt. And so you're getting better
exercise benefit. And now I'm learning that you

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even get that greater healing benefit within the body, which I
would suspect also for an athletic population would help
with muscle recovery and everything else.
And so this is fascinating stufffor me.
And I got to tell you right now,this will be played for my
students next year's, you know, have the opportunity in classes.
I keep feeding them all this information I get from this, the

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Aging Well podcast. So I'm excited about this.
Yeah. And I'll tell you like, so we
have a lot of our customers cometo us with chronic illness and
chronic health conditions. Some of them are just looking
for anti aging benefits. And obviously you can see the
crossover between those two. And we'll have folks who are not

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well enough to exercise when they start and they'll be
surprised at how much easier it is to exercise when they put the
mask on and how much more they can do on day one.
But then how quickly their ability to exercise goes up and
up and up. And.
I'll share my personal story on that is when I started doing

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this, I was exercising and I hadlike a commercial grade
elliptical that I've had foreverand it has 20 levels of
resistance and I was already doing it at like a resistance of
12, which is pretty stiff. Most folks if they weren't
training on it all the time, they big wow, this is kind of
tough, but you know, I've been doing it for years.
So your your body just kind of habituates and I started doing E

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Watt, you know, a couple months and I'm like 12.
This is nothing, you know, and it's gotta be 13 and 14 and 15.
And today I use that elliptical machine at a resistance of 17
out of 20, which is ridiculous. If anyone were to try to do it,
they're designed to have 20 levels.
But no one has actually using itup there.
And it's not like I'm working any harder.

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It's just, you know, your body is able to do this.
And so it's, it's pretty amazing.
And to your point, there's so much research on improvements in
VO2 Max and improvements on recovery because as we were
talking about lactic acid beforelactic acid, you need to get
that out of your body quickly because it's causing more damage

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and more work to repair. And so the first thing is to get
lactic acid out of the body, youneed to oxidize it.
And so when you oxidize it, it actually creates more energy.
And so bringing in that extra oxygen helps remove it as
quickly as possible. But then it also you need energy
to repair. And so obviously the, the, the

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limiting factor to energy in oursociety isn't food.
We can look around and I'll recognize that it's oxygen.
And so when you're able to feed your body more oxygen, you're
able to repair faster. And it creates the creation of
new mitochondria, which are the little energy factories in our
cells. And so you produce more

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mitochondria in each one of yourcells, and they're new and
they're youthful. And so they're able to produce
more energy because the body hadthe energy to invest in new
mitochondria. And how long does this the
increase in oxygen in the systemlast after an exercise session?
Well, it'll last for several hours, but the benefits last
well beyond that. So I had mentioned Van Arden who

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discovered this. So he took some elderly folks
and he had them do, I believe just like 3-2 or three sessions
of EWA. And he, he looked at their, the
blockages in their capillaries and then he brought them back
several weeks later and those blockages were still opened up.
So there was this persistent benefit.
And so the oxygen status of all those cells downstream never

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went back to where they were before this started.
And so the great thing about E Wat is it gives you this
immediate bump, It gives you this enduring sort of bump.
And then there's this third layer, which is you'll continue
to see incremental benefits withit.
For me, I saw incremental benefits into my third year,
which is kind of shocking. If you think you're doing the

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same exercise routine every day,you'd think, oh, by six months
my body is used to it and it is what it is.
But that wasn't the case. I kept seeing new benefits and
it was like, it was pretty amazing.
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Yeah. And it would seem like even

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though maybe the oxygen content goes down a little bit more, I
mean, for those that understand,you know, oxygen saturation in
the blood hemoglobin is rarely any higher than 9698%.
So if we're boosting that a little bit better, we have a
greater capacity over the long haul to continue to kind of

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utilize the oxygen that we're already carrying in our blood.
That's right, absolutely. So this is cool stuff.
I'm, I'm geeking out on the Physiology here.
Let's shift gears a little bit. You also work with red light
therapy as well. How does this fit into the
picture, and how do these two therapies complement one
another? That's a great question.
So red lights, interesting. I think more people have heard

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of it. So you know, if you think about
red light, if you think about usancestrally, we spent a lot of
time outdoors and the sun is full spectrum, everything from
UV to infrared. And over the years we've moved
indoors and as we moved indoors,we've actually filtered out all

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the Reds. We filtered out the Reds because
they're not very good at illumination and they actually
produce heat, so they're not very energy efficient.
So we focus most of our lightingindoors on the yellows and the
Blues. And so this leaves our bodies
naturally at a deficit for red light and, and infrared light.
And So what happens there is those two are, are very powerful

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groups of wavelengths because when those thing, when those
wavelengths hit our cells, they actually instruct our
mitochondria to to utilize more oxygen to pull more oxygen in
and thus produce more energy. And so all of the benefits that
you read about red lights, whether it's improved collagen

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and wrinkles or improved healingor recovery or so many benefits
at their at their base, it's allabout producing more energy in
the mitochondria, like increasing mitochondria demand
for oxygen. And so now you can see where
these two link up. The link is oxygen.
So when you're doing ewat, you are flooding your body like the

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Max capacity in a situation where your body is
physiologically primed to take as much oxygen as possible and
deliver it as efficiently as possible because of all those
physiological changes we spoke about.
So it's a massive increase in supply.
And then you do any Watt sessionand then you go and do a red

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light session and now you're taking your mitochondria and
you're stimulating oxygen to manfrom them.
So you're causing all of the mitochondria to actually bring
as much of that oxygen in and produce as much ATP as far as
possible. And, and so all of a sudden now
your cells have more energy. And of course, energy isn't just

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about you and I feeling awake and alert energy for a skin
cell. And then it has more energy.
Oh, produce more collagen for a heart cell.
It'll, it'll do what it's supposed to do for a liver.
Each one of our cells has a purpose and it can do its own
thing when it, when it has the appropriate amount of energy.
So we're optimizing them and it's a really fascinating

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synergy. It's kind of one of those 1 + 1
= 3 scenarios where when you do E Wat, well for most folks, the
the right order of operations isyou do, you do E Wat and then
you do red light therapy right afterwards.
For folks who are going for athletic performance, we
actually reverse that. So if you're going for athletic

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performance, right before you'regoing to do your athletics,
right before you're going to do your E Watt session, we have
you, you do a red light session.And so particularly you want to
focus on those muscles you're going to be using because all of
a sudden now those muscles are bringing in more oxygen and
they're thirsting for oxygen. And then you jump on your
exercise equipment and start doing E Watt and now you're

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flooding it. And so it's primed and ready.
So those mitochondria are awake and you know, at operating at
110% so to speak and you're, you're feeding them the oxygen
they need to stay at that level.So from an athletic standpoint,
how, how does this kind of further work into their training
and adaptation? Because that was one of the
limitations I saw that when I was looking at hyperoxic

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training was that it's a little bit more difficult for an
athlete to to train because mostathletics are not sitting on a
bike or on a treadmill. They're going to be outdoors and
moving around. Obviously it helps to benefit
it. How would you use it in
conjunction with the exercise training?
Yeah, that's great question. So if we're if we're working

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with an athlete, what I generally recommend is there's a
few different ways to use it. One, obviously it can greatly
improve your endurance. It can increase your power
output. And two, it helps with recovery
and so, so if you're going to try to now I mentioned to you
for instance, my personal experience, I went from using

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resistance 12 to resistance 17. It feels the same to me.
I'm just able to produce more power.
My VO2 Max is increased, et cetera, et cetera.
Now there are times when I'll goget on my elliptical and not use
the oxygen and I can still do itat a 17.
So this increase in capabilitiesis not limited.

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Your body trains and now your muscles and your cardiovascular
system are used to that level ofactivity.
Your glycogen stores adjust appropriately, et cetera.
So what I generally recommend isfor athletes to, if you're
looking for endurance, to use ittwo ways.
One is seek out an endurance session while you're using the
oxygen and you want to do that at least one time, but up to

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let's say three to five times a week.
Make that part of your training where you're pushing hard with
the oxygen because it's going toallow you to push more and that
will transfer to when you don't have the mask on.
The second way I recommend people use it is for recovery.
So after you've, let's say you're a marathon runner and you
went out and did a long run, when you come home, don't go,

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don't go in and shower. Take 15 minutes and go do E Wat.
You don't need a you don't need to bust it really hard.
You just want to get on there ata moderate pace to kind of keep
your blood flowing and just get the oxygen in to help blast out
all that lactic acid and give your cells the energy they need
to recover. Help all the muscles and all the

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other body parts recover from that exercise.
And like for me, I'll lift weights a couple days a week and
afterwards I'll do, I'll do an Ewok session.
And it still kind of surprises me.
I never ever get sore. Even like if I miss a week or
two because I'm traveling for work or something, I don't get

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sore. And like when I was 28, if I
missed a week or two, I was sore.
But it's literally just the Physiology of the oxygen
clearing out all of the lactic acid in your body.
So for athletes training, if you're training for endurance,
it's a great thing to use at theend of your kind of your long
runs or your your long rides or whatever you're doing.

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If you're going for, if you're like a weightlifter and you're
looking to increase your gains there, I recommend you you bolt
it right on after you get done with your weightlifting session.
I know for me, I was kind of shocked like how much my, my
lifting went up because my goal isn't to, to like lift a ton of
weight. It's just kind of like I'm, I'm

(31:38):
in a time box. And so I want to be, I want to
be exhausted when I get to that 10th repetition sort of thing.
So as soon as I'm going to 15, I'm throwing more weight on the
bar to bring it back down to 10 because I don't have time in my
life to spend all day doing it. And I was kind of shocked at my
how much the more I was lifting after, you know, I was like,
this is kind of crazy at my age to be like seeing gains.

(32:00):
It wasn't really my goal. So I I definitely recommend both
of those scenarios depending on what your goal is.
Yeah, it's all about stimulus and recovery.
And it sounds like this kind of hits both of them.
You can get a greater stimulus, but it's also promoting greater
recoverability. That's right.
So yeah, I don't know how I missed all this stuff for so
many years, but. Well.

(32:22):
Learning late life. Well, the this is one of my
favorite quotes is from a doctornamed Arthur Guyton.
He wrote the medical textbook called Medical Physiology, and
it's what every medical doctor is used for the last 75 years.
He wrote in the 1950s and it's still the number one book.

(32:42):
So, you know, an expert in the area.
And he says at the root of all disease is lack of oxygen.
And so it, that's really it whenyou get to it, we have, we're
helping so many people with chronic health conditions, and
I'm talking cancer, cognitive decline, autoimmune conditions,

(33:04):
long COVID, Lyme disease, just so many things even like
concussions is CTE recovery. And it's, it's simply because
when you restore oxygenation to all the parts of your body that
need it, they actually have the energy in the body is just such
an incredible, an incredible, I'll call it a machine, but I
think that's kind of a downplaying it's beauty and it's

(33:27):
a, you know, and it's wonder. But when you give it all of the
fuel it needs, it can and will regenerate and repair.
I still have my copy of Guyton Master textbook.
That was an awesome textbook. Is Donuts awesome textbook?
You don't just read it when you're when you're lying awake
at night. No, no, I haven't.
I should pull it out. I mean, you've got some of the,

(33:47):
you know, I'm constantly having to reference different things in
Physiology because I'm trying tolike continue to grow and, and
having this, the Aging Well podcast has really broadened my
scope of kind of my understanding of exercise
Physiology and how we apply things.
You know, we started really withfour pillars that I kind of

(34:09):
determined from teaching path ofPhysiology and exercise, and
that's exercise, eating a healthy diet, maintaining
healthy body composition and notsmoking, all of which involve
oxygen. And you know, that was kind of
the premise. If you did those things, you're
going to be healthy. And we've since added sleep
hygiene and I kind of really think that that in recovery is

(34:30):
probably even more important. And it kind of goes back to
really what you're doing with the, the E Watt and then the the
the six now is purposeful socialconnections, which is unrelated
really physiologically, but it gives us that whole
biomechanical psychosocial pieceof exercise performance.
But you know, the E Wat is really kind of hitting all those

(34:53):
boxes. You know, it's going to allow
you to exercise more effectively.
It's going to allow you maybe more effective use of the
nutrients that you bring into your body.
It's going to allow you to recover more effectively, sleep
better. And it's also going to help you
metabolize that and build muscleto where you're improving body

(35:16):
composition. So yeah, this is this is cool
stuff. And I, I hope our listeners are
like, wow, this is awesome. Like I'm geeking out over it.
So. You know what's great about it
too? I'll be like, what's really cool
about it is at the end of the day, it's just oxygen.
Like it's just oxygen. And like, you know, there's,
there's not a whole lot to worryabout with it.

(35:36):
Now there are generally like there's two risks with oxygen. 1
is it's, it's not flammable, butit is an accelerant, meaning
like if there's a fire, it can make it burn hotter and faster.
So, and that's pretty easy to remedy.
You just don't keep this thing near any gas appliances sort of
thing, right? You just don't put it next to
your water heater or your stuff and don't smoke around it sort

(35:58):
of thing, which hopefully, if you're getting it, hopefully
you're not smoking anyhow, right?
The other general risk with oxygen is something called
oxygen toxicity. So if you were sitting on the
couch and just breathing pure oxygen and you were day in, day
out, by the time you got to the second and third day, you could
develop something called oxygen toxicity.

(36:19):
And so that's actually one of the cool things about ewat is
you actually can't get oxygen toxicity because you're
producing them. To your point, and this is the
synergies of exercise, you're producing a massive amount of
carbon dioxide when you exercise.
And carbon dioxide isn't just a waste gas, but it actually helps
keep the appropriate balance of oxygen and carbon dioxide in the

(36:43):
blood. And the carbon dioxide works is
basically a pressurizer in the blood in the circulatory system
to drive that oxygen out of the circulatory system and into the
tissues. Because so there's really, as I
was tell folks, there's really no risk with doing EWA.
And the so you could never get oxygen toxicity #1 if you did

(37:05):
ewat forever. But there's a second fail safe,
which is we offer, you know, theway ewat is done is you use this
large reservoir that is 1000 liters large, which is a lot of
oxygen, teen hours of oxygen, but 14 hours of oxygen isn't
enough to get oxygen toxicity either.
And so if you use the whole reservoir, you're still not near
that. And that was kind of the thing

(37:26):
for me on the journey was like, like, what's the harm in this?
You know, like the fall back is I've done absolutely nothing bad
for my body. And on the upside is I'm I'm
probably doing something incredibly helpful for it in
which I was. So I find that that's something
that's really kind of reassuringfor me is like, hey, this is
only this is I'm just using something natural and it's just

(37:46):
helps me, you know, perform better so.
Yeah, yeah. Worst case scenario is you get
fit. That's the biggest So what are
the side effects to E Watt? Well, body, you know, body fat
loss improve VO2 Max, improve cell function, reduce risk of
cancers. And save and take your cardio

(38:07):
session from 30 minutes down to 15.
So there's no. Yeah, that's a time factor too.
And we've we've learned too that, you know, shorter bouts of
higher intensity exercise are aseffective, if not more effective
in terms of maintaining body composition and improving via 2
Max so. That's right, the hormatic
effect, right? You put a stressor on the body

(38:29):
and it has to respond. So how high of intensity do
people typically go? I mean, do you have I mean, I'm
sure you're unhealthy. Individuals are probably doing
really low steady stage moving some, but do you have athletes
that are kind of even hitting into that?
And I don't you I won't use the air quotes around Tabata here
that they're actually doing the a true on Tabata type of session

(38:50):
where they're going, you know, Super Mac Mall for the, you
know, 8 bouts of 20 seconds on 10 seconds off.
Yes. So you know, we have people
using in all sorts of different ways.
So to your point, the very sick,they're starting out where they
can and as their endurance improves, they increase.
For the vast majority of folks, I tell them to target somewhere

(39:11):
between like 70 to 80% of their theoretical Max heart rate.
And that's kind of like a ceiling.
And the reason is for people whoare looking for general
longevity, health and Wellness or recovering from an illness,
we don't want to overwork the body and beat it down.
This is about kind of steady as it goes sort of thing.
And but keep raising that ceiling until you get to about

(39:33):
70 or 80 if you can, that's great.
That's a real sweet spot for a lot of folks.
But then if you're an athlete trying to, you know, maximize
performance, yes, we, you know, this is, this is a tool that's
going to allow you to go further, harder, faster, sort of
so to speak. And so we have folks, you know,
they'll get on and they'll just gun it, so to speak.

(39:54):
And it can be, it can either be circuits or, you know, they can
just gun it for as long as they can gun it and see what, what
can they keep their Max tempo atfor that 15 minutes sort of
thing. So it really depends and of
course it depends like what yourgoals are, you know, if you're
in high school and you're looking and you're looking to
get the best, you know, 200 meter dash time or 400 meter

(40:16):
dash time, then circuits. Certainly if you're, you know,
if you're someone who's looking to do the mile, then you might
be looking for something that's a slightly less intense but
longer duration because we want to build up the, the muscle
ability to do those sorts of things.
So, but whatever it is, this is going to allow you to train that
much harder and get more benefits out of the training.

(40:37):
And you can use it with basically any kind of stationary
exercise. So bike, elliptical, treadmill,
as long as you're within proximity of the bag.
And I think as I looked at the specifications of the system,
you have a pretty long hose attached to the bag as well,
right? That's right.
So it comes with 10 feet of hose.
So the equipment should be, you know, your face needs to be

(40:59):
within 10 feet of the equipment.However, we also sell a hose
extension kit which can get you to 20 feet, you know, so that if
you want to put it on the other side of the room sort of thing,
you can. And sometimes folks are doing
rowers, there's something want that they just, they got a hose,
they're gonna be traveling back and forth.
They just feel more comfortable with it.
But yeah, you can do anything and I really recommend if you're

(41:21):
going to do Ewa, I think the secret is the piece of equipment
you're most and here's why. The the secret sauce to Ewa and
the magic happens like a lot of things in life when you do it
consistently over time. I mentioned I felt incremental
benefits into the third year. So whenever I'm talking to to

(41:41):
customers or potential customers, my goal is for them
to get through those first threeyears doing it.
So don't go find and a piece of equipment that you think might
be 10% better, but on week 6, you're like, I'm done with it.
Find the thing that you're like,yeah, this is this is my of the
things I can do, this is my favorite.
Yeah, I teach my students that the answer to the question,
what's the best cardio equipment?

(42:02):
It's the piece of equipment thatyou're going to use, enjoy using
and use consistently. That's right.
Doesn't matter. I mean, treadmill bike it all.
It all stimulates the heart. That's right.
And if and if you want to mix itup and use different ones,
that's great too. It's that's great for a variety
of so we have folks coming at itfrom all angles.

(42:23):
So is there anybody who should not be doing EWAT training?
Yes, definitely. So the main group of people who
should definitely not do EWAT training are those who are not
healthy enough for exercise. All of the major risks around E
water are exactly the same as those for exercise.
So if you're not healthy enough,you've got a heart condition

(42:43):
that precludes you or blood pressure or reasons that the
doctor, whatever reason, if yourdoctor says you shouldn't be
doing exercise, don't do it. You know, other than that, for
the rest of us, obviously there's times we shouldn't do
it. If you're super sick, just rest,
you know, don't go out there andgo bang out, you know, see
sessions like lay down, let yourbody, you know, recover from

(43:04):
what it's dealing with and then get back at it sort of thing.
By and large, no, I mean pretty much this is most of the vast
majority of the population can do this and we'll see great
benefits. So if somebody is sick and
shouldn't be exercising, can they get some benefit from just
simply kind of connecting themselves up to the system,
sitting down for about 15 minutes and just breathing the

(43:25):
oxygen? Sure, you, you'll, I would say
you'll get something like, let'scall it 5% of the benefit from
just breathing the oxygen. And of course, what I do warn
folks is don't sit for three days and breathe the oxygen.
That is a risk, right? But if you, if you want to sit
down and breathe it for 15 minutes or you want to breathe
it for even an hour or two, that's perfectly fine.
It'll probably help clear up your head.

(43:46):
As we mentioned, your red blood cells are pretty much at
capacity, but there is a little bit of room both on the red
blood cells and if you're breathing it, a little bit of it
will get into the blood plasma and that's where you'll get some
benefits from it. But it it, it's like a 5% sort
of. Thing and have you gotten into
like cardiac rehabilitation centers, pulmonary centers and

(44:08):
things like that? Are they kind of buying into the
idea of E Wat? Well, we're, we haven't really
gotten into any of them. I do know that there are some,
there is some pulmonary folks that are doing research on E Wat
for long COVID. So we do see some of that
happening out there and I'm excited to see some of that.

(44:30):
I believe that's at the University of Dayton, isn't it?
Sure, but sounds good. Yeah, I believe inside the
University of Dayton that they're they're doing that.
So I was thinking out loud. And so there is some research
and I'm excited to see how that turns out.
You know, we are, you know, we are helping a lot of folks with
these conditions. So we see it.

(44:51):
We've got folks with COPD who are using it and that's it's
pretty common. There's a lot of folks in
medical centers that use exercise with supplemental
oxygen for COPD as well. So for COPD, for folks with long
COVID or exercise intolerance, where they they quickly tire and

(45:12):
they can't do exercise for a variety of reasons.
Sometimes that's COVID, sometimes that's other health
conditions. So can you share any kind of
interesting success stories of people that you've had use the
system from 1000 roads? Yeah, sure.
We had a gentleman who was stage4 cancer who was using it and

(45:34):
told he was never gonna walk again and he came back and wrote
us nine months later and told ushe was walking 6 miles and he
was super excited and he is getting his life back.
I had another gentleman who was a tax accountant and he came to
us and he was having all sorts of brain fog and he couldn't

(45:55):
know tax accounting and brain fog just don't mix.
And he had had several concussions in his life.
So he was having brain fog and he was having anger management
issues that come along with likethe CTA, CTE sort of stuff.
And so he came to us and he was basically barely functioning.

(46:16):
And after he was one of these folks who just responded on the
first session, in his first session, he was like, you know,
I was like, Oh my God, my head was clear for the rest of that
afternoon. Like I haven't felt this way in
years. And the next day he went back to
the feeling the way he was. So he, he did several sessions.
You know, after, after a handfulof sessions, he was noticing
that the benefits lasted. He was doing like every other

(46:37):
day. He was noticing the benefits
would last into the second day. And you know, within just a
couple weeks span, he started toget to that point where he was
clear headed in between sessionsand like, he was like, I'm
operating. This is amazing.
And he had to, this was in the DFW, Dallas, Fort Worth area and
he had a leaving for business and go to Florida.

(46:59):
And he came back and told me this story where he was like
looking up oxygen bars online trying to figure out how to get
an oxygen, you know, fixing his time there because he was afraid
he was going to start slipping backwards sort of thing.
But you know, he got to the, youknow, it allowed his brain to
function normally and begin the healing process.
And, you know, so that was amazing.

(47:20):
And I just hear so many of them every day.
We've got folks who have Lyme disease and they were, you know,
basically bedridden and they might have started started doing
this standing on like a vibration plate or just doing
stretching because or a little pedal bike will in the chair.
And then they're coming back to us and talking about how they're
getting their quality of life. And those are always the most

(47:40):
rewarding conversations I have every every week is when I get
to have one of those and just hear about folks.
So and then there's my own, you know, the most important one to
me is I got my life back. I was in real bad shape.
I can't even tell you it was real.
The thing, the thoughts that were going through my head and
what my future was going to looklike and what was going to

(48:01):
happen to my family when I became too disabled to work.
Yeah, that's, that's a real darkplace to be, you know, and you
know, and then you get to the other side of it after there's
so many years, you don't think there will ever be another side.
And you know that then I'm I'm running this company for one
part at a time. I was working full time in in

(48:22):
the corporate world and running this company and I was my
children's assistant wrestling coach and, you know, all these
things. And it was like, it was shocking
to me. I was like, I never really worry
about running out of energy, youknow, like, sometimes I feel
overwhelmed, but, you know, but as is life.
But like that, I could have never imagined that there were

(48:43):
times when I was just faking it at work and hiding in my office
and hoping no one noticed and like, trying not say anything in
a meeting because I couldn't even access my thoughts clearly.
So yeah, there's there's a lot of really cool, powerful
stories. So you're a wrestler.
That's another good reason to like you there.
You go. So despite my height, I was a

(49:03):
wrestler in high school and my son was a He placed fourth at
heavyweight at 2:20 his senior years.
Wow. Yeah, almost wrestled in
college, but he decided to kind of go a different pathways.
Good for him, yeah. So love the sport of wrestling.
I do too and I do too it'll it'll test your metal for
certain. So you mentioned a part of your
mission is to make healing accessible and safe.

(49:26):
What does that look like in practice?
Yeah, You know, so when I was very sick, I got this diagnosis
of Lyme disease and Lyme disease, there's not a lot of
treatment options in traditionalmedicine.
And so once you kind of get that, you kind of feel like
you've been dropped in a forest you've never been in and you
just need to find your own way out.
No one's no one's coming for you.

(49:47):
And it's, you got to figure it out yourself.
And then there were a lot of what I would call unscrupulous
people along the way who would offer to help me try things, You
know, give me 25,000. You can try this or 40,000 for
this, or you should go over to Germany and try this thing for
100,000 or down. And it just kind of felt, I
always tell folks, it kind of felt like you were bleeding and

(50:08):
dropped in the water and there are sharks circling around, you
know, And that was kind of, thatwas part of that really tough
emotional period. And when I realized I was
getting better, a doctor recommended I start making these
for his patient when he started seeing the turn in me.
And I hadn't considered it before.
And then when I went home and thought about it some more and I
was like, I would love to make aa brand that was kind of a

(50:30):
fighter for folks dealing with chronic health challenges and we
could make this affordable to folks.
So when I first started looking into E Wat in order to buy an E
watch system, they were somewhere between 5000 and
$25,000. And that was another one of
those where I just, and I didn'treally believe in the
manufacturers. What they were saying just

(50:52):
seemed like a lot of marketing hyperbole and I just didn't feel
good about. So I ended up making my own.
And so I wanted to create a company where one, we try to
bring some of the science forward.
And if you go to our website, welist a lot of the research, not
all of it. They don't always have time to
go come through and find the latest and greatest, but we have
a lot of research on it. We try to talk science first,

(51:14):
not marketing and hyperbole first.
And we, our other idea was thesecompanies, they have a high
price and so the market is smallbecause they're selling to
chiropractors clinics and medical places and recovery
places. But if we brought the price
down, then we could allow peopleto buy it and put it in their
home. And as I mentioned, the real

(51:36):
benefits are consistency over time.
So if you had something in your home and you could do it in just
15 minutes a day, so many more people, this would open up the
market for so many more people to do.
And so that was really our goal is put science first, make a
quality product that was affordable and just try to be
straightforward and speak the truth to people because as you

(51:57):
know, like oxygen is so incredibly powerful and so
important to our bodies. And like, it doesn't need any
marketing hyperbole. It really doesn't.
The there's enough science behind what it does that if you
just let open it up and share itwith people and and make it
accessible so they don't need a pH D to understand it, then I

(52:18):
think more and more people be interested.
Yeah, if you think oxygen isn't beneficial, just try holding
your breath. That's right.
That's absolutely right. So for listeners and viewers
though, that might still be a little bit skeptical, especially
of all the biohacking trends that are out there.
And we poo poo biohacking on this podcast a lot.
How do you help people distinguish the hype from the

(52:40):
helpful? Yeah, You know, here's what I'd
say the, the, the, the, the thing you got to watch out for.
So what's here's what I I think is great about biohacking.
Biohacking. They're pushing the envelope on
what is possible for humans. They're looking for what things
offer benefit and what is possible.
And, and I kind of view these folks as kind of astronauts.

(53:01):
They're out in the outer edge ofour solar system trying to help
see what are the outer limits ofour solar solar system.
And I think in humanity, it's great to have people who are
dreaming big, thinking big and helping push those limits
because some of those things will come back and be beneficial
tools for for the vast majority of folks.
I do come at it a little different in that I come at it

(53:24):
from someone who's been through a chronic health scare.
And so my goal is to make thingsthat are accessible to people
and like, if I was telling you to try these 27 different
things, plus do these 58 different supplements, plus, you
know, like when you're, I live that like when I was chronically

(53:45):
I'll, I was trying everything and you know, someone said you
should try this other thing and I would add it to my protocol
and I'd add one more thing. And then you finally find that
you're like, you're taking up 8 or 12 hours of your day doing
all this stuff and you're like, this is then you just say, I
can't do it. And then you just want to throw
it all the way because you just like, you'd rather feel
miserable in your bed than like spending all day doing all these

(54:05):
different things. And so I'm looking for things
that are like, hey, what are simple things that folks can do
that they can actually fit into their lives when they've got a
job, they've got a family, they've got obligations, they
might be sick and not have the full wherewithal and capacity
and energy to do all the things that they might have if they
were in a healthier state of mind.

(54:26):
And so that's kind of where we come at it a little bit
different is like, I want thingsthat the everyday person can do
and they can do it consistently and see great benefit.
And so that's what we look for when we're looking for something
that helps folks. Right.
And what innovations or researchdevelopments are you most
excited about in this space? Well, you know, I was, I, I'd

(54:49):
say in the E Watt space itself, What I'm, I think I was tell
folks, we don't, we sell Coca-Cola, we sell a Coke can.
What I mean by that is there's nothing we sell that's magic.
The oxygen is the magic and it'salready in your room.
You're breathing it right now. All we're doing is purifying it
and collecting it and making it available.
And I don't think there's a whole lot of technology or

(55:12):
wizardry that's needed there. We actually make our systems
very simple, like it's a physical switch you turn on.
It's not a, you know, you don't have to download an app and
figure because if you're sick and you have brain fog or you're
busy, no one wants to. Like not everyone wants to learn
a whole new ecosystem just to dothe thing.
Can I just do the thing, so to speak?
But Red Light is really interesting because I feel like

(55:35):
there's a lot of new research onwhat it can do.
I think there's more research coming out of what oxygen can
do. And I'm more excited about what
pushing the envelope on seeing all of the benefits of it
because I don't think we fully realize it.
I think as you're seeing, we're seeing more and more benefits
from different, if you will, wavelengths of red and infrared

(55:56):
and different ways they can helpour body and how they work
synergistically. And that gets me excited.
And I think the biggest innovation in the Wellness space
in general is just access to information.
The access to information is exploding.
So when I was looking at starting EWA a decade ago, you

(56:17):
know, like there was nothing outthere, just a few companies
selling it and whatever they wanted to tell me that was it.
Like that's where you found yourinformation from the people who
wanted like, and there were no customer reviews.
There were. But now folks are going on to
Reddit and Facebook groups and on so various social media
channels. And we've tried to do that too.

(56:38):
One of the things I've tried to do to make our company more
transparent is like, we have reviews on site.
So if you want to hear like morestories about customers, I want
you to hear customers. And we have some, there's some
really amazing stories and some of those reviews that I really
love or it tells a bit of it andI know a bit more.
So everything you know, when I read, I actually know the full
story and worse than these folkswere, It's more about the

(57:01):
transparency and people. It's not about, it's not just
about companies sharing something.
It's also about people being able to learn from various
expertise and getting more of that information out there.
And that's the part I'm more excited about because I think
that's how we're finding out about so many more technologies
than were available even to mostfolks five years ago.
So. So what advice would you give to

(57:23):
someone who feels stuck in theirhealth journey right now or is
overwhelmed by a chronic illness?
So #1 for folks with chronic illness, the biggest and most
important thing is it has nothing to do with anything
anyone can sell you. It has to do with spirituality
and it has to do with not losinghope.
And so I have been down into thedeepest ends of that tunnel that

(57:45):
you can go and feeling the lightdim and don't believe for one
second that your body can't repair itself and you can't find
a way out. But you do have to be dedicated
in your practice of finding it and you have to be gentle on
yourself and forgiving of yourself and you just have to
keep working. That would be my biggest thing

(58:06):
to someone who feels stuck in their health journey.
I would say habits, habits, habits, Atomic habits, small
habits. The things we do, we 90% of our
life is on autopilot. So I'll give you an example is a
few years ago, I play guitar a little bit here and there and I

(58:26):
was learning this this song I liked on guitar.
And whenever I try to learn a new song, it takes like, all of
my brain capacity. Like, you feel like you have to
be a genius just to play some ofthese things.
Like, this is impossible. How would someone ever play
this? And, you know, I was showing my
young daughter this and I was saying, see, I'm like, I'm
struggling to do this, but I want you to watch this because

(58:47):
by tomorrow, I'll be able to talk to you while I'm doing it
because now it's on autopilot. I don't even know what I'm
doing. I couldn't even tell you what my
fingers are doing. They're just doing it.
But we're like that too. We're like that with the foods
we eat. We might get hungry and
brainlessly go into the kitchen and eat something.
So if you can interrupt that pattern and go eat something
different and start a new pattern, you'll find in a few

(59:07):
weeks that's the new pattern. If it's you're not exercising
For me, my trick when I first, when I got out of college, I was
very overweight. I'd let myself get very
overweight and I stopped exercising while I was studying
abroad and I decided it was timeto get back into exercise.
And I remember what I used to tell myself was I'd just tell

(59:29):
myself, you don't have to exercise.
You, you have to go to the gym today.
Whatever you do there, I don't care if you do the full
exercise. You do a little bit, You just
walk around, talk. But you got to go.
And I knew once I because I didn't, you know, maybe didn't
want to go. I bet you have to go.
You don't have to do anything once you get there.
But yeah. And then I'd get myself there
and you're like, OK, once you'rethere, you're like ready and to
do it. But you were dreading it.
And I just, you know, there's things you don't have to like.

(59:50):
So that was one of them. If you're really sick, I would
recommend look into look into oxygen.
You know, there you don't have to, there's a variety of
different modalities, but it is really powerful.
It is a really powerful healing agent and recovery agent, and it
will do so much for your Wellness, especially if you find
time to do it consistently everyweek.

(01:00:13):
So Speaking of doing things consistently every week, what
are you doing now personally to age well?
Yep. I do a variety of things.
I still do E Wat I do it five days a week.
I lift weights twice a week as Imentioned because those are
important. Physical activity is super
important. I definitely prioritize sleep

(01:00:34):
important. I drink a lot of clean water
because I believe in that. I changed my diet considerably.
I joke when I was trying to get over Lyme.
I did a lot of things, and my joke at the time was I basically
gave up anything that brought joy to my life.
I was on a very restrictive diet.
I gave up. I didn't drink much, but I gave
up drinking alcohol at all. I gave up coffee.

(01:00:59):
I gave up sugar. At one point I was just eating
vegetables and meats. I've since loosened up on that
and eat other things, but I don't eat a whole lot of grains.
I find my body does better without grains.
And now I'll drink green tea because that's my cheat on.
I can still get caffeine, so take that doctor.
I'm not drinking your coffee, which is I think has a lot of

(01:01:24):
benefits. And obviously I do ewa.
I do my red light and I sleep ongrounding sheets too.
I think those are really cool. I love these things that are
that are so take small time commitment, right?
So grounding sheet I have to layin my bed anyhow, I might as
well get some benefits from they're sometimes called

(01:01:44):
grounding, sometimes called earthing sheets.
I'll also drink hydrogen water. So hydrogens are a great
antioxidant. And so hey, I'm going to drink
my water anyhow. I might as well, you know, it
doesn't take me much energy to push a button on a little
generator. So I love these little, if you
will, little hacks you can do that take up very little energy

(01:02:05):
and time. And for me, like my cardio
session I mentioned went from 30minutes to 15.
So I gave myself 15 minutes. So, so to me, it's all about how
do you optimize your time? Because you know, I still have
kids that are in school and, andit's incredible.
It's incredible, you know, the American Society, how we do fill
in every nook and cranny of timewith things to be done.

(01:02:28):
And so all of us are pressed fortime now.
Yeah, it's amazing. And and we have so many people.
Their excuse to not exercise is time.
I tell my students is the biggest load of BS.
Yeah, you know you can always find a time.
Just I'm looking at the time youwaste.
I got up. My answer is I do it first thing
in the morning because I, I knowif I wait till later in the day,

(01:02:48):
things will happen. There'll be an emergency.
I have to put out a fire. So I get up.
So unfortunately my wake time is, it's already calculated in,
you know, if I had to get the kids to school earlier, then I
have to wake up earlier because I have to get it done.
I can get it done. So awesome.
So where can people learn more or try E Watt for themselves?
So you can learn more about E Watt on our site.

(01:03:11):
Excuse me, it's 1000 roads.com all spelled out ONETHOUSANDROA
ds.com. We also, if you go to our
YouTube channel, which is 1000 Roads HQ, we, we are launching
movies every week to talk about ewat and red light and the

(01:03:32):
science behind it and the protocols, etc.
So a lot of great information onthat.
If you want to try it, there's likely someone near you that's
offering it as a service. And that's a, that's a great way
to put your, you know, put your toe in the water.
You can search ewat near me, that's ewot.
So exercise with oxygen therapy.You can search near you and find

(01:03:54):
providers. A lot of times it's in
chiropractors clinics, recovery centers, doctors offices,
etcetera. Well, is there anything we
missed talking about today? I don't.
Know we covered. A lot.
We covered a lot. Yeah, we.
Did. We could go a lot deeper into
the Physiology, but I don't think probably 99% of our
listeners really care that much about the Physiology.

(01:04:15):
You. And I could geek out on it for
certain. Yeah.
So hey, I just want to thank youfor coming on today and, and
sharing this information and kind of kicking me in the butt
for what I didn't recognize 30 years ago.
But I'm glad somebody grabbed onto that information and is doing
so much with it. And you know, we'll share all

(01:04:37):
the links to, you know, your website, your different pages
and get people connected with you and with your company.
And I just thank you for coming on and just keep doing what
you're doing, keep aging well. Thank you so much.
I appreciate you having me on today, Doctor.
Welcome. Thank you for listening.
I hope you benefited from today's podcast and until next

(01:04:58):
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advice. Doctor Armstrong is a PhD
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(01:05:44):
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