Rewiring the Brain After a Dementia Diagnosis w/ Dr. Robb Kelly | The Aging Well Podcast | Ep. 293 - The Aging Well Podcast

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:02):
A diagnosis like dementia can shake the foundation of
everything we thought we knew about our health, our identity,
our future. But what if there's more to the
story than decline? What if even after the
diagnosis, there is still room for growth, connection, and
healing? Welcome to the Aging Well
Podcast, where we explore the science stories and strategies

(00:23):
behind living a longer, healthier, and more purposeful
life. I am your host, Doctor Jeff
Armstrong, an exercise physiologist with a passion for
making science simple and life better as we age.
My guest today is Doctor Rob Kelly, a world renowned expert
in recovery and behavioral transformation who also works
with individuals diagnosed with dementia to restore hope and

(00:44):
improve quality of life through neuroscience, trauma resolution,
and somatic tools. With decades of experience in
psychology, behavioral science, and addiction recovery, Doctor
Kelly is uniquely positioned to help people, especially older
adults, reconnect with their brains, their bodies, and their
stories. This conversation goes far

(01:05):
beyond symptom management. It's about honoring the whole
person, exploring what is still possible, and finding purpose
even in uncertain territory. It's a conversation that might
just change the way you think about dementia and help you or
someone you love take the next step toward aging well.
The Aging Well podcast encourages informed decision

(01:27):
making and always consult your physician and scientific
literature when making decisionsabout your health.
Doctor Rob, welcome to the AgingWell podcast.
You were a guest on my other podcast that we have a spiritual
problem podcast. And I would just I'll link the
guests that, you know, the, the listeners and the viewers to
that particular episode so they can get a little bit more of

(01:48):
your back story from that. So we can just kind of dive into
the topic that we want to talk about today.
And so you've spent much of yourcareer working with trauma
addiction and, and brain rewiring.
In fact, we know you as the Gordon Ramsay of addiction
therapy. So what led you to begin working
with dementia patients? We we have this software.

(02:09):
It's called 9 dimensional subliminal messaging software
and basically what it is it's you wear headphones and a
blackout mask and you lie down in a chair.
Take it nice and easy and the subliminal messages you can't
hear and then the rest is like you think you are following the

(02:31):
voice and the music, which is awesome.
Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely awesome, but there's
a lot more going on in the background and the stuff going
on in the background. What we found is that the
different levels and vibration will change in the in the body,
which is absolutely awesome because we, we found out that we
can not only treat addiction, but we can also treat anxiety,

(02:56):
depression, PTSD. So we've actually been as bold
to say that we can cure any kindof addiction and we can arrest
the alcoholism. So that's what we had to start
with, which we were absolutely over the moon, as you can
imagine with that. And then I don't know why, but

(03:17):
you know, one day I'm like, I wonder what else this would do,
you know, if we really kind of looked into it and that's what
we did. We started looking at the brain
waves. We started looking at different
kinds of the, the energy levels and the, the sound experience,
which is layers of, you know, channels and, and 9 dimensional

(03:37):
immerses you into this state of being able to change the brain
wave tones and it's kind of isochronic way where you don't
know it's happening. So the 432 Hertz, which is a
harmonic tuning of the brain. We found that, you know, it's,
this is miraculous. We've got, we've got to find
something else. So one day I'm in my restaurant

(04:00):
next door and we got talking to a lady there and then she went
on to tell us that she has dementia, onset dementia.
And I'm like, well, we have thisstuff and she's, I want to come
in and try it. So I've tried everywhere.
I've spent hundreds of thousandseverywhere else, you know, So we
have it tested at a local clinic, which is well respected
clinic. We brought her in and we did

(04:21):
three months solid, every secondof this stuff.
And then we had to test it againindependently and they found
there was a 13% increase in shocks.
And so we're like, what? And then we took a couple of
more on because we advertised itand the same thing happened.
So we're in early research stages and we are talking to

(04:43):
Robert Kennedy right now through, you know, Gareth
Brecker, who's a good friend of mine.
So we're going to see what happens, but we're excited that
we can do that now. As well as that I tried it
myself, so I got go on it regularly.
We have medical grade red light therapy, photomodulation helmet
and waistband that we use. And my memory's coming back.

(05:05):
I can remember, you know, I can remember like 10 years ago, but
what I did three days ago, I waslike, ah, what did I do?
That's come back, which is whichis amazing.
So we're really excited about this.
You know, we're, we're always try and push boundaries.
We're always right. Well, you can't do this.
Says who? You can't cure addiction.
Says who? You know, and we're like, yeah,
we can't. We can't.
We can't. The brain's so fascinating.

(05:26):
And what we found as well with our trials and research is that
brain cells don't die. You know, you heard that alcohol
kills brain cells. That's not true.
Sure. Short term memory dementia
kills. That's not true.
We found it to the contrary, that they go into a Gray area or
a Gray state, but they can be revived with the stuff that
we're using. So.
Yeah. We're excited, yes.

(05:46):
A lot of people think that dementia is is purely
degenerative disease. But from your perspective,
what's missing in that narrativethen?
Well, what we think's in this, in this thing is with the
binaural beats and stuff like that, we use the, the brands of,
you know, the harmonic differences between the
vibration and the frequency Is it revives, revives that the,

(06:07):
the, the what was called grey area or dead cells to other
people that we can actually reconnect them is what we, I
have a great video that I show when I'm explaining just in
general how we can re change andre pattern brains and new neural
pathways instead of old neural pathways.
It's a great, fascinating video of actually a camera in

(06:28):
somebody's head. Well, so we think that's what it
is. You know, short term memory.
I mean, Alzheimer's is diabetes three.
America is the only place that refuses to call it.
It is 3, but it's a lot to do with the sugar and, you know,
stuff like that, which kills us on a day basis.
And you will be not I'm sure, you know, but the people
watching, listening, you'll be aghast of how much sugar you're

(06:50):
consuming on a daily basis, especially when we're doing the
diet Cokes and you know, we're doing the McDonald's this and
the Starbucks this. It's like horrific.
You know, you get, you get the Starbucks, you know, Kappa
mocha, whatever. And then you start to look at
the ingredients in that, which Starbucks don't really want you
to know. It's there's about 20 spoonfuls

(07:11):
of sugar in, in that concoction of coffee that you're consuming
every day. So no wonder it's a bit of a
pick me up. You see people think that coffee
is a stimulant. Coffee is not a stimulant.
It does block out the tide cellsin the brain.
So you you're more awake ish, but it's not a stimulant.
So what makes us even leave our coffee in the morning?
It's all the sugar that's going into that.

(07:32):
And that's how Starbucks makes aliving, unfortunately.
And most of our food industry islike that with, you know, you
deal with addiction. And, you know, when we think of
addiction, we're always thinkingalcohol and drugs.
But you were a nation that is addicted to the foods that we
are eating, particularly sugars and even some of the fats and
just the the chemicals and the things that they put in all our

(07:54):
food is just ridiculous. It is, I mean, you, I, we did,
we did an experiment in a local supermarket on ATV show and it
was amazing. So we went into the show with
cameras blazing and we walked upto the health part of the, the,
the supermarket. First of all, if your

(08:16):
supermarket or store as a healthsection, what the Hell's the
rest of the food in there? That's all I'm saying about
that. But we went in, we, we, we took
a very, very well known brand ofhealth bar, which was, you know,
best selling. And on the packet when you could
see and the things had 9 grams of protein, 0.
What are you going to think? That's awesome from my family.

(08:38):
I'm going to buy a bunch of those that we're going to eat.
Then we spun the package round. The first ingredient was canola
oil. The second ingredient was
sunflower oil. So let me tell you a little
story about the oils that are killing us.
There's only four things we should be coconut, olive and
avocado and the good grass fed butter or ghee.

(08:58):
They're the only four oils we should be using.
So the sunflower oils and all that rancid oils that we eat
goes back into the day when Rockefeller of all people, his
company supplied all the oil to the the locomotive industries.
So there was, you know, they made a great living off that.
And, you know, as as the cars came in and the trains went out,

(09:18):
less and less oil was needed because not only you don't need
gallons now, you just need a little bit in the car to make it
run. So he would come up with a
genius idea and he created like a health board around him.
And he convinced them to convince the public that these
oils were very good to cook in. They were healthy.
I mean, you look at, I don't know, sunflower oil like God, it

(09:42):
sounds amazing. And then you look, you look at
the ingredients and that's what's, that's what's part of
what's killing us. You know, like I said, coconut
oil, avocado and a good grass fed butter or ghee is all that's
needed. The rest are not needed.
We can't, we can't methylate thesunflower oils.
So in the body as a whole, when we eat something, it's never

(10:02):
used in the source that we eat it.
It has to be methylated into thesource that the human body can
use. With the rancid oils and the
food industry and the GMO and the plastic food we have, the
food that we eat is not being methylated.
And everyone's different, by theway, but there's most foods we
can't methylate. If we can't methylate into the

(10:23):
source that we need, that becomes a deficiency.
The deficiency causes the cancerthe day that are there that are
there. And people are astounded when we
tell them that because, yeah, wehave research to back that up.
They say you've got to be staying away from this stuff.
All kinds of sugars are described in different kind.
Aspirin. And really, it's more addictive

(10:43):
than cocaine, you know, And they've got all these words tied
up so you don't really know whatyou're eating.
But, you know, if you just want to eat a little bit healthier,
just turn the package around. And the crazy thing is, Jeff,
there's always an alternative onthe same shelf somewhere,
probably by a brand you've neverheard of.
But it's always best to look at what, what are we eating?

(11:04):
You know, popcorn. Oh my God.
It's just, you know, Bob, Bob Bob's nice and healthy, but
skinny. I'll make sure I don't laugh
with it. Skinny, Skinny popcorn.
OK. Yeah.
OK. Then we're not talking about
that. It's like Diet Coke probably
doing more damage than than the regular Coke, you know, without,
with all the crazy stuff that's in it.

(11:24):
McDonald's fries. Why is there only four
ingredients in England at McDonald's with the fries?
And there's like 22 ingredients in America with the fries.
What? It doesn't it doesn't make sense
as a human being, but it makes sense as a business that this
fries over here can last about ayear without even having nothing
on it. You put a McDonald's hamburger

(11:45):
or beef burger or cheeseburger out into the sun outside.
Not one insect Ant or anything will touch that.
They won't do it. And and you've seen the
experiments while they leave it in the in the the colored, you
know, for like a year, you take it out.
There's nothing wrong with them,not even the bread as moulded.
So, yeah, we're, we're not very good when it comes to eating in

(12:07):
this country. And, and he always like to
preface that with, I'm American guys, I might sound different,
but I, I came over here 20 yearsago and I became a full citizen
and I'm very proud of that. So when I say America, I'm not
saying as an English guy, look at that.
No, I'm saying as an American that we need to do better.
You know, we really do. If you're enjoying the Aging

(12:27):
Well podcast, be sure to like, subscribe or follow on your
favorite platform so you will never miss an episode.
And if you find our conversations helpful, please
share the podcast with a friend because aging is something we're
all doing and we're better at doing it together.
And support our guests in this podcast financially by visiting
the affiliate links in the episode description below.
And use the links or codes provided for discounts on

(12:49):
products we have vetted and feelcomfortable recommending to our
valued viewers and listeners. Thank you.
And now back to the podcast. Yeah, it always blows me away
that, you know, we talk about, you know, the healthiest diets
like the Mediterranean diet, theNordic diet, all these diets.
Why is the American diet not at the top of the list?
Instead, we call it the StandardAmerican Diet, which the acronym

(13:10):
is SAD, which is a very appropriate acronym diet.
Now we, we are the bread basket of the world, apparently.
And yet we have the worst food and we're just corrupting the
food intakes of the rest of the world.
And we've gotten off the topic alittle bit here.
So that's going to get back to neuroplasticity a little bit in
dementia. I mean, obviously, you know, we

(13:32):
can really go off on what is causing many of these problems,
but since the problems are here,we need to work on kind of
helping to fix them and and to help people that are diagnosed
with dementia. And so you talk a lot about
neuroplasticity and rewiring of the brain.
And this is possible even with the diagnosis like dementia

(13:53):
every. Onset, yeah, we've, we've only
tested early onset. We, we need our medical doctor
comes in, we, we need support from that if we go any deeper.
So what we've done is hey, earlyonset or just been diagnosed,
let's see what we can do. And we've had great response and

(14:14):
the full turn around, like I said, for short term memory, but
we have to trial that over at least 12 months.
We've only been doing it four months right now, five months.
So we need to fully do the full research on this properly.
We're going to start that next month before we can present and
go, hey, I think we're on to something here.
But you, you can hear if you do,if you do use Google's searches,

(14:34):
that there's thousands of peopleout there that agree with me,
doctors, medical doctors that are going, hey, this, you know,
dementia can be reversed. So they're a bit ahead of us, I
think. But yeah, we, if we hear of
anything that's happened, we go research it ourselves because
there's so much lies and stuff on the Internet, you don't know
what to believe. So we never quote anybody.
Well, this research was no, we do our own so that we're fully

(14:57):
responsible for it. Sometimes it's a good thing and
sometimes it's a bad thing of sticking yourself out there.
But you know me, Jeff, that's what I do for a living.
And the loudmouth and the guy that curses if you don't, if you
don't do as you're told in the office.
And I'm the aggressive guy that just wants to live, you know, I
don't care about your feelings. I'm not here to, you know, to
make you feel all fluffy and warm.

(15:18):
That's what therapists are thought.
I'm here to tell you how you feel while we get you.
Well, because your brain is fighting against you and wants
to kill you and make you look like an accident, that's for
sure. So we really need to, you know,
go in more depth with this as well as the other stuff that
we've done. But what we're excited about is
because you've had so much stress with all the other side
problems, the depression and anxiety addiction is we're

(15:39):
excited that this will follow suit.
So there's nobody, there's nowhere in the world that do
what we do. We have a 98% success rate.
First, a couple of things aroundthat.
First of all, you have to pass an assessment.
Secondly, the family needs to come on board as well because
when the family comes on board, the illness or the let's say

(15:59):
alcohol or dinner or whatever itis goes up by 42% alone.
And we're the only company that offer you a money back guarantee
if if you relapse or get depressed or anything like that
whilst following our continued programme of course.
So yeah, it's we like to think of ourselves as game changers
because I have that, I have thatall or all or nothing mentality.
And most people who have psych problems do once we clear that

(16:22):
stuff up, it's either we're going to do it or we're not, you
know, as a pregnant or you're not.
And there's no middle ground. It's like I'm going to try, you
know, and people so kind, I mean, you can't just can't just
do anything with a mentality. Why open a restaurant next door
with no experience whatsoever inrestaurants?
Not nobody had me, me and my sister with partners.
We started it's 18 months and it's thriving.

(16:44):
You know, we truly believe that you can do whatever you wanted,
but we, we keep waiting. We keep waiting for this, you
know, next week I'm going to do this.
It's like, stop waiting, guys. You know how much time?
I'm 64 now. So if we go by the average age,
let's say 7564 now something, I've got 11 more birthdays left.
That's all I have. And when you put it into that

(17:06):
context, you realise that why are you waiting for any, what
permission are you waiting for? You know, get up, pull away a
little bit from medical doctors and definitely pharmaceutical
and look at what the alternativeis.
Because once you start taking medication and again psych, if
you have heart problems not talking to you psych, you'll be
amazed how the body and brain can heal itself when we're

(17:28):
taking the natural thought that's out there available to.
And I would argue as a physiologist that the Physiology
can heal itself as well. Yeah, 100 percent, 100%.
We've we've traced everything like I say and you know, over,
over the interview podcast, it has been trial and research.
We never say, well, we think we can now let's trial, research it

(17:48):
spent over $1,000,000 in the last 10 years researching and
trialing stuff that we want to take to the government and, and
you know, higher places than us because like I say, we're game
changers. So yeah, we're, we're a true
believer in that. You know, that was a, that was
AI think one might have been a Chinese knee surgeon.
And you can, you can Google thisguys.
This is what got me a couple of things got me going on.

(18:10):
Wow. And this was one of them.
Is he, he was a knee surgeon andhe brought like 5 patients, 6
patients in and they told them that they're going to have a
free knee operation and they allhad bad knees or at least one
bad knee and that two of them would be kind of the placebo
effect. And, and there was like, yeah,
we'd love to do it. And they're talking about what
they didn't tell the patients were they were going to cut the

(18:31):
knee in the placebo guys, but not do anything, just stitch it
back up again. The four guys that had the knee
surgery should have been normal,but two of them weren't because
they might have thought they might have got the placebo.
And the two guys that had the placebo, they didn't do
anything, works fine for the rest of their lives.
Explain that to me. Yeah, it's all here.
We're not using a brain and the mind and, you know, power that

(18:54):
we have like we should. We don't give the body time to
heal. It's like we stuff it with false
medication and harmful medication.
I mean, if you go to the, if yougo to the doctor and he gives
you a pill, look at what that covers.
It covers about 20 elements where it's good for depression
and psych and schizophrenia. And what the hell am I taking?
You know, there are times that people come here and they go,

(19:17):
Doctor Rob, I'm so depressed. Are you?
Oh God, I'm sorry. How long you been depressed?
I've got three years. I just, okay.
Do you take medication? Yeah, the doctor's got me on,
blah, blah, blah. When do you think it's going to
kick in? Because it's been three years
now, you've been three years you've been taking it and you're
still depressed. So once we start putting foreign
stuff into our body, you know, pharmaceuticals that we don't
know what the side report is or the the health negative benefits

(19:41):
across that, then we don't standa chance of getting well.
And again, I'm talking about heart problems, take your
medication, get well. I'm talking about has anybody
ever listen carefully, guys? Has anybody ever taking a pill
from the doctor? It's cured your ailment and you
never have to take the pill again.
Yeah, I didn't think so. Yeah, it's the second time I've
heard that on this podcast. You know, medicine really

(20:03):
doesn't cure anything. It just essentially puts a
Band-Aid on the the symptoms. I will not take a headache.
I will charge my wife crazy. She is American, Texas.
I'm getting a headache. Hey, I've got some blah blah for
you. It's like, no, I'm not going to
take it. Why?
Well, it's masking up why I havethe headache.
I need to know why I have the headache.
Not taking something to mask it because it might get worse and I
don't feel it. So there are no pain receptors

(20:25):
in the brain. So how do we get headache if
there's no pain receptors in thebrain?
Well, the brain is covered by what's caused like a skin called
a Dora. When it expands and decreases,
that's where the pain comes. That's full of pain receptors.
So when I get a headache, something's happened, it's had a
smaller or bigger than it shouldand the pain is caused there.
I want to know why I don't want to take something to cover it.

(20:47):
Why am I having headaches? And there's always something
like like a water, like a bears,this vitamin and this, you know,
stuff like that. It's always causing always.
But you're going to be careful. The vitamins you take.
Most vitamins are filled with cyanide.
You know you've got to go for, you know the good stuff.
You've got to turn the bottle around and look, you're going to
go for the natural stuff, you know the organic stuff.

(21:10):
And you'll see a difference in your health.
And Whole Foods is probably evena better start there.
Whole. Foods is good, but it's not as
good as you think it is. That was our late.
We're also going to say that we're studying that right now.
Yeah, we're studying all these health people.
Health foods is amazing. There's a couple of items that's
turned out to be really bad for you.
So as a whole, yeah, but not, not a lot of people can go, can

(21:32):
afford to go to whole fields forthe shopping.
I mean, you're talking about $100 at Walmart and $300.00.
But you just have to be sensible.
That's all you need one day, youknow, don't have that packaged
freezer stuff that you've been having all take a break, you
know, have some salads, you know, make sure it's all
organic. It's hate that word organic, but
it's, it's so true. Like $2.00 a month organic.

(21:53):
Your body will thank you. But be careful again about
organic. There's different levels of
organic. 1 needs this much, 1 needs and one needs this much of
soil on top of it. So you're surrounded with these
things that ain't killing us andit's hard to take the stuff that
doesn't. You've got to really search for
it. So let's get back to to
cognitive decline. How does unresolved trauma play

(22:16):
into cognitive decline later in life?
Where is the gateway drug? You know, now I was on with
somebody yesterday. I was I was presenting TO66 or
700 medical students and that that question came up and the
decline is slow, but sure, that's for sure.

(22:36):
Ask me the question again. I've just something just came in
that somebody texted me over there.
I don't need to do with that. Just ask me the question again.
I'm sorry. So when we look at kind of
unresolved trauma, what role does that play in cognitive
decline? I'm so sorry, Jeff.
Yeah, so sorry. Go away with that.
I'm not Cambian. Yeah, that's OK.
We're talking cognitive decline.It's perfectly appropriate to
forget what I said. When it's brilliant, yeah.

(22:58):
So it, I mean, it's hard to say when it first died, but it's
basically we look at the brain, we look at the recall memory, we
look at the anti a singular cortex, we look at the
hypothalamus, we look at the theamygdala.
You can't set the ventral medal prefrontal cortex out of that,
of course, and the hippocampus. They all play a role in what
happens under certain circumstances where the

(23:21):
cognitive decline is then part of the brain and not getting
what they need to get. So the brain is very the brain
is very demanding on that body. There's a little tiny cellar
back in the tongue, can't remember the name right now, but
when he wants sugar, it demands sugar from the body and it will
strip it from everywhere, absolutely everywhere.
So we've got to make sure that we are eating again.

(23:42):
It comes back to the eating stuff.
When a part of the brain becomesoveractive or underactive, it's
like that. Let's cover the hippocampus.
So the hippocampus, it starts with chronic anxiety.
So then we go back to childhood trauma and we look at what is
childhood trauma. So for a normal person,
childhood trauma could be a divorce, could be, you know, a

(24:02):
car accident or something. But with most people with
addiction problems were more sensitive to it to a trauma that
thought in the past it was really terrible like a car
crash. We have to go deeper than that.
And and what we found is with certain people or the brains
with depression and stuff like that in the family become very

(24:23):
sensitive. So the trauma could be well,
here's one of my trauma, me and my brother still in the kitchen
table, 891011 years old. She's mum walks in and she said
to both of us, get down at that table, get down before your dad
gets in. That's what she said and I heard
well he jumps down my brother. I got something different you
know at that table is what I. So when we look at the

(24:44):
difference between a normal brain and brain coming from
traumatic backgrounds. So a measurement and learning
behaviour can be passed down when it comes to depression, for
instance. So then what we do is we go
forward. That challenge of trauma is
always there so we retrain the brain around that child of
trauma. So for instance, if I'm a young
girl growing up in a house wherethe father's alcoholic and comes

(25:07):
home two or three times a week and gets into a fist fight with
mom, and then the next day you get up and he's sober, I love
you. Oh yeah, I love.
Sorry, but no, it's okay. She believes that's love.
She believes violence equals love and vice versa.
So when she goes into a teen, she will attract the same guy
that ends up beating her or becoming some kind of addict or
alcoholic. I mean, they already are, but

(25:28):
they she will attract that because their behaviour's the
same. So dementia again, passed down,
childhood trauma passed down, any kind of psych problem passed
down is what we found. So certain parts of the brain
like love, for instance, affection, someone who's been
through the, the child with the father, they don't know not to
seek that. So when they don't seek that or

(25:50):
deserve that adoration or anything from the parents,
caregivers or friends, friends, any kind of validation, then
that part of the brain becomes under accident and that can
cause all kinds of problems. So we always have to look in
most illnesses with psych, if not all, we always have to go
back and find out what's going on.
Now, the bad thing about that isit's stored in the subconscious

(26:11):
brain. It's not stored in the
conscious. So the 24 hours at a time you
hear around a A is not an A a thing. 24 hours at a time means
the brain, certain parts of the brain reset every 24 hours.
So if 300 neural pathways die every day, what are we replacing
them with? And it has to be totally new
behaviour. Otherwise the basal ganglia is
our repetition strength and confirms like a pilot needs

(26:32):
10,000 hours in the air before it becomes a working part of the
mind. With childhood trauma, it only
has to go around a couple of times before it comes a working
part of the mind. And when I say the working part
of the mind, what that means, it's immediate reaction to self
sabotage. So like when you go to the
doctor and perhaps you're on theknee, you can't stop that.
It doesn't need your reactions. It's the same thing with this
thought patterns. It becomes that you're going to

(26:53):
live in self sabotaging most of your life because so we have to
use certain tools like the 90, the brain spotting, the
modulation units and stuff like that, NLP, lots of subliminal
messaging to pull that subconscious trauma out.
And once we do that work, the patient is free and free
thinking and can recover from those things they have in life.

(27:15):
What are? Some of the most common
emotional patterns or limiting beliefs that you see in clients
with dementia after they receivea diagnosis.
Well, all of them are scared. They're absolutely terrified.
When we're terrified, we're in fear.
We can't. We don't work well within fear,
OK? We just don't work well.
Human beings are not meant to bein fear 24 hours a day.

(27:36):
But the way the world is today, most people are, so they operate
on this fear. While we're in fear.
You cannot heal because you fight or flight all the time and
all the energy is spent on, you know, the worrying.
Now there's depression, now you're panicking and every
certain one day goes into another and you don't know what
to do. And no wonder the brain declines
because we're telling it to. So we go back to the mind and

(27:57):
the brain again. So the idea is to get the
patient out of panic mode, out of fear, and with subliminal
messaging, which basically meansI'm going to plant certain words
or phrases in your head without you knowing.
There becomes a light at the endof the tunnel.
Why in that stage, if I told you, if I told you you had psych
illness without sounding affordable, I don't know, ear

(28:19):
infection. If I told you that you had this
or you went to this pool, you'reswimming around, it was dirty,
you're going to get it. You're going to get an ear
infection. You'll get an ear infection
because the more I tell you that, the more you're going to
believe that. So the brain and the mind, mind
over matter. Mind is where it happens.
It controls the brain, the matter, then then that will
happen. And it's crazy how we've seen

(28:41):
that over the years happen. And it's like if you're given
like how come the body can go into a doctor's feeling great
and you get a diagnosis that's not good and you come out
feeling terrible. The body's still the same.
The mind's still the same. When you walked in 10 minutes
late, you walk out feeling terrible.
It's because we've heard bad news, and we react to that bad
news by jumping straight into fear.
So we don't look at anything pertaining to sight rationally

(29:03):
today. That's also cause for decline.
While we're in fight or flight, the body cannot heal.
While we're in fight or flight, the body cannot get better
because it refuses to hear anything else apart from the bad
news. So I spoke at a meeting seven
years ago. It was 1000 people in
California, 999 said I was fantastic and one person said I

(29:24):
was terrible. Have a guess who I concentrated
on for the next three months? The one guy that means that I
still have trauma that I have never uncovered.
So I had to go back in and do that trauma around that.
What happened to me? You know, it's, it's crazy that
here goes right back to the childhood trauma that you had.
And of course, we normalized my trauma.

(29:46):
Just because you get molested bythe priest does not make you,
you know, don't you ever come back to this house and talk
about the priest? How dare you talk about so I
never spoke about it. It became normal.
It became normalized and again with the trauma, that's what
happens these days and going back 30 years before that was a
little different. But we sit on them traumas and
we do nothing with it. If you ever seen a deer get

(30:08):
getting hit by a car that doesn't die as you hit it, it'll
stop for a second on the ground and then it'll stand up after a
few seconds. What it does next is miraculous.
It will shake violently for one or two seconds and it runs on.
What's that shaking about? That's the trauma.
He shook it off and now he moveson.
That dare may cross the same Rd.at the same time tomorrow I get

(30:28):
hit by the same car because he has no recollection of that
because it was dealt with there on the spot.
We don't do that now. There are certain techniques we
we teach our patients to do. It deals with the trauma there
and then because once we start stuffing that subconscious
brain, when the prefrontal cortex says give me an answer
because that's his job. Give me an answer right now to
this problem. Give me a solution right now.

(30:50):
It comes up with the solution rapidly in milliseconds.
The only problem being it doesn't have to be the correct
solution to that problem. And, and that's where we find
the problem is, is most, most people living in fear, like an
Alzheimer's patient has just been told, or you know, somebody
with an illness just been told. We jump straight to fear.
That means that everything that your prefrontal cortex shouts at

(31:13):
is coming straight from the subconscious.
But when you get your ideas fromthe subconscious brain, you
always want to come in for the conscious, for healing.
You always need to be coming from a conscious brain that to
move forward in life and treat from the inside out, not the
outside. And always doesn't always save
us. You've got to do it from the
inside. I want to circle back to some of
these techniques here in a moment, but you got me thinking

(31:34):
of a question. You know, you're talking about
kind of the trauma, the anxiety and all these things leading
into how the brain is functioning.
Do you think, and again, this isgoing to be purely speculative
because I know you probably haven't done the research in it
yet, but do you think it's possible that much of our
dementia that we're seeing in our aging population is stemming

(31:54):
from the anxiety that we feel, that we're being told that as
you get older, these are the things that are going to happen
to you. Dementia is dementia is
inevitable. Maybe you had a family member
who had dementia and so you think I have the genetics for
this. It's inevitable, it's going to
happen. 100% We did a little research around that.
We wanted to, we've done a few, a few things around that.
But when we're being told or treated by others like families,

(32:18):
like dementia in the family, well, one day you'll get it,
you'll get it, you'll get it, you'll get it, believe it or
not. Well, that can't be true.
It's true. It's what we tell each other,
especially illnesses or anythingpertaining to that.
Especially if it's in the familywith genetics and epigenetics
going on there, then there's likely you're going to get it.
Whereas if you don't know your parents and, and they suffer

(32:39):
from dementia, you'll probably never get dementia because you
don't know your parents. So you don't linger on that.
We went to a school back in the,what was it 80s, maybe, maybe
90s when when I graduated. And he was a best friend of mine
that was a head teacher and headmaster, which is like the
principal over here. And we asked him could we do a
research, a test, research on the children.

(32:59):
And he cleared it with the board.
And people are excited because what we told him is we can pick
the top three of your 9 to 11 year olds.
That's going to change the worldand be brilliant and all that
stuff. And he said that's impossible
and we said can we try it? And he said yeah, the board was
excited. So we went in to the school the
next day and went and handed outthe next 20 pupils.

(33:20):
Oh, between 8:00 and 9:00, 11/12, I can't remember.
They did the test. It was about 1520 minute test
exam. We took all the papers round and
we said to the headmaster, we'llbe back tomorrow.
So the next day we come back andwe said, hey, we've done all the
testing and research. We've done all the China on
this. We sat up all night doing this.
And here's your top three. Johnny.
Johnny. Yeah, Johnny Smith.

(33:40):
Are you sure? Johnny's kind of at the back of
the class right now? Well, that's what he's telling
us and he's never wrong. We tried and tested loads of
times and there's the gym in andthere's whatever the other girl
was a kind of a Sandy or something.
So we told them the top three that are geniuses.
They said we'll be back in a year's time to to monitor the
results. And the idea is we couldn't have
contact with him. So he's a friend of mine, but we

(34:01):
couldn't have contact or definitely not talk about talk
about it. And then we went back a year to
the day and the headmaster was waiting for us at the door.
And as we're approaching, he's like, Rob, how did you know?
And like what, how did you know?This is we've got to call the
government, we've got to do something.
They said absolutely, absolutely.
What the test, the test is. Where'd you get a test from?
Test. It's coming to test all the
time. And then we'd signed down and we

(34:23):
said, hey, how's our three pupils doing?
Oh my God, I, I don't know how you did it.
I mean, you know Johnny Brilliant, he's top of the
class. How did you know?
How did you know? And we said, well, we didn't
know because when we left here, we threw all the papers away in
the local trash and we picked 3 random numbers out, three random
children out. And because we told you there

(34:44):
were geniuses, so you treated them like geniuses.
So they become geniuses and that's kind of how their mind
works. You'll pick up if people treat
us this way, we'll become that way.
If people treat us, we're the next in line because of dementia
is that it's touched everything.We're going to get that 100% get
it where it's a way of changing around to make sure that we
steer away and have less chance of getting that.

(35:07):
Like I said, it's we're still inearly stages, but it's proven to
be true that if we're told oftenenough, we believe, no matter
what it is, we believe it. And like I say, you come out of
the doctors, you've been in there 3 minutes, your whole
body's changed because it's giveyou some.
Like my mum was told, Misses Kelly, we need to get you to
chemo straight, like you have cancer, you have breast cancer.
Then she says no. She said look, if you don't take

(35:28):
it, you've got four months to live.
That's what the doctor told her.She had the mastectomy the next
month but she won't take any radiation or anything, any
chemotherapy. She says no, her basis was I'd
rather live six months quality life than two years in pain
every day because back in the day is to make so sick.
She lived never 29 years after that guy because you know, she

(35:51):
kept saying to herself Jeff thisbullshit.
He don't know what he's talking about.
I'm not got cancer. I don't always talking about and
she God's got me and kept finishing this and she staunchly
believed that and so should it come.
That's amazing what the brain can do.
So we're not aware of it or we don't want to be because it
sounds hocus pocus. It sounds like surely if I think
there's dinner, 100% man, 100%. So we cure stuff.

(36:13):
You know, when you take the medication for sake, all bets
are off. There are there are more black
box medicines on the market now for site than any other illness
to the human body. And if you don't know what black
box medicine is, guys, it's basically in layman's terms, a
company that's going to get suedin a few years time for the
medication that's killing people.
So what specific techniques do you find most useful for

(36:37):
dementia patients? The breath box that we have.
Is the 90 stuff we, we find thatwell, because we've done all
three on them. It's hard to point out.
Well, we, we do the 90, we do the modulation units on the head
and the stomach and we do the subliminal messaging.
They're the three that we've done all the time on, on
dementia patients. Subliminal messaging is very

(37:00):
powerful. It's, it's a way of planting
words and sentences and stuff like that in the patient's brain
without them knowing. So we kind of play a little
trick when they come on board. We and I know myself sounds
silly to guys listening, but we research them.
We research any patient that comes in, but if they're really
bad, we're researching and you're on the face ball.

(37:20):
You just, you know, research like crazy on social media and
you find out that the guy comingin or one of these women who
came in a real patient, her and her husband was into the Dallas
Cowboys because we're in Texas and she was crazy over at season
tickets. He travelled to Dallas every.
It's just crazy every two weeks to watch them.
They got halfway blind seats. I don't know what that means,

(37:41):
but that's what you keep tellingme.
So when when the we have a bit of a big car park outside when
the car was parked, I should getout there towards this.
We have a hedge outside like a abrush outside and and we stock a
Dallas Cowboys cop in there so that you could just see it, but
you can't see it just there. So it was here and the doorbell

(38:03):
to get here because it's unlocked facility was there.
And so subliminally she's seen it.
When she comes in and sits in reception, the Dallas Cowboys
are playing on the big screen. When the assistant comes out or
the therapist comes out to greetthem, she's wearing a Dallas
Cowboy wristband or something. Again, very subtle that the

(38:23):
brains picking up on especially the mind.
So by the time she walks into the, the, the therapy sessions,
uh, her mind and her body is already free that she's let her
guard down. We have something in common.
She feels at home now. We can get to the subliminal
brain because if you subliminal mind, if you come in like you do

(38:43):
to get therapy or whatever, you'll stick.
You've got a shower, you got your best clothes on, you know
you're all there. You're defensive because you
don't know what's going to come by these techniques that we use.
The defence has gone as the familiarity between all three of
us. It's like, wow.
And if you'll come into my room and there'll be something Dallas
Cowboys or Redskin, wherever it is.
And that that's how we start thesessions are.

(39:04):
So we've got a 90. We have 52 programs for 52
different stuff. And then a red light.
We have 32 programs. And basically it's, it's a
medical grade red light therapy,which which can change
directions and heal and all thatgreat stuff.
And it's proven to be true. But we also have a waistband
that they put on that's also flashing red lights.

(39:26):
So this flashes, the stomach thing flashes and I got asked a
couple of months ago why, why why the waistband?
If it's in the head, why the waistband and and the the answer
is simple for chemicals are needed every day to be happy.
Dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin and dolphin that everyone knows
that most people know. What most people don't know is

(39:46):
the two big ones are serotonin and dopamine are created in the
stomach. So we need to address the
stomach as well as the head. So between them two or three
methods, that's where we're finding our.
Results. So you kind of talked about
these subliminal messaging and your basic coaching approach.
Do you modify it in any way for people who are suffering memory
loss, confusion or people with language difficulties?

(40:09):
We've not got that far yet. That will be our our next Ave.
to go down. We still want to keep all the
psych stuff we do, but I'm intrigued by this.
My parents died of that. My wife's parents died of
Alzheimer's. It's like, you know, it's one of
them illnesses that you, you getor over a period of time it
increases, but nobody could cureit.

(40:31):
So nobody's really interested init.
And it might sound harsh. You get Alzheimer's, you watch
your insurance company change that policy.
You know, doctors all suggest this, this, this medication
because it keeps the pharmaceutical companies rich.
But what are they doing for you?And The thing is, there's not
many people out there. There's probably a few thousand
like me who's got and there's medical doctors that kind of
probably do more research with it, with the the machines and

(40:54):
stuff that they've got. But we found the same result in
America, unfortunately, to get somebody, well, it's not
profitable, you know, for the sticking medication rest of
life. We're good Sticking treatment,
certain, we're good stick him ina hospital.
But do we actually go down and look at the disease and quality?
Like we don't really around thatbecause most doctors kind of
give up. God bless them.
You know, they're not doctors, not here to research medical

(41:16):
doctors to treat people, do no harm.
And most medications help a lot,you know, millions of people,
which is good. So when you get down to the
addiction, you get a depression,you get down to, you know, the
outside. And this is like nobody's gone
down that route because right now it's not profitable.
It's like depression. What the first thing we do, we
run to the doctor and get some depressments.
Depression in the Medical Dictionary of the USA says that

(41:39):
depression equals like a serotonin.
Why aren't we asking why my serotonin is low before I go to
the doctor's? That's all we're saying to
people, our methods and ways andstuff.
We can take that, enhance that and once we start doing that,
the body will heal a lot quickerthan the normal weight never
heals relation. It just keeps you like the
depression may as well just keepyou uneven.
It's never going to be 10 out of10 every day, but you're 7.

(42:02):
You know, I'm OK, I'm good, I can, I can.
Why not ten? Why don't you have a great day
every day like millions of people like us do, but it's just
not possible, says who? That's learned behaviour.
That's that's limited beliefs that you learnt from your family
and friends, teachers growing up.
It's 100% possible. I don't believe you.
What good for you. I'm here to convince you.
I'm here to look at our stories and look at the life we lead

(42:23):
today. And really to people who haven't
been able to touch one by one over the years, it's like you
either believe and you come aboard and get well, or you
don't. And I don't know what happens to
you, but I have 11 birthdays left and I keep going back to
that to shock people. What do you know what I mean?
If you're 60 years old, you have15 birthdays left.
It's not a lot of time. Why are you waiting?

(42:44):
Why are you concentrating on this illness you've got when you
can pull away from that shit? Live your life today Because if
it's your last day with oh, I hate that saying, well, let's
look at it. So three parts of the brain
reset the 24 hours. So yesterday doesn't matter,
Tomorrow's doesn't matter, anxiety tomorrow, depression
yesterday. We want to live in the past or
future. You know, I don't think I paid a

(43:05):
mortgage, you know, in December.What?
But we do that as human beings because we're taught to do that.
Wait till your father. Babies are born with two fears,
the fear of falling and the fearof loud noises.
The rest of them are made if youdon't do that, wait till your
father gets home. If you don't pass it.
It's all fear that we don't needis bullshit and we have to pull
away from that. We don't operate under fair.
You get the guy at work, you know.

(43:26):
Monday morning, boss comes in. Jeremy, I need that report by
Friday, 12:00. Yeah, boss, I got it.
Doesn't do it Monday, of course.Loads of time Tuesday and
Wednesday's playing golf, forgets all about it.
Thursday comes back in when I dothat report before I go home,
Forgets about it, goes home. Friday morning, wakes up.
Now he's really scared because if he doesn't get in, it could
be a job. So he gets to work like 6:00 AM,
frantically bashes away at his keyboard.

(43:47):
He's sweating, he's drinking coffee.
And at 5 minutes to 12, he presses send.
And you know what he tells himself?
I work well under nobody works well under pressure.
If you don't believe me when you, when you hit 40, come and
see me. You're probably not 18.
We do not work well under pressure.
There's no reason for pressure. The pressure and the, the the
anxiety is the inability to manage one's day.

(44:10):
That's all it is. You know, if you would have done
it in a planned routine program,which the brain and the mind
loves, it thrives on that. Include oxygen to that in
massive events in the morning and you'll be the peak practice
when you carry on and do the rest of the stuff and live life
and find out who you really are.Our identity is taken away with
marriages with work with you know, become, you know, blah

(44:33):
blah of this company. I'm the CEO of I'm the all it's
not you. The only thing, the only thing
you've got in common with the other people.
They're my family. No ones your freaking family.
Are you kidding me? They're not your family.
You walk around for 8 hours a day on the same carpet.
That's it. So getting validation from you
know you need accommodation fromyourself.
It's great to hear it, don't getme wrong, but all this stuff

(44:55):
feeds in to a healthy life. The belief system, the the
family system, the the childhoodtrauma, the behaviour who you
hang around with today has a huge effect on if I hang around
9 depressed people, I'm going tobecome the 10.
Oh, that, that's not possible. What research did we do?
The research we did was how ninepeople could change one in

(45:17):
minutes. And now one person can't change
nine people. So it's important who we hang
around. So we, we had nine actors come
into the reception waiting room and their, their, their thing
was you get $100, drink a cup ofcoffee, come in, sit down.
Here's the instruction. And the instruction was every
453045 seconds a buzzer would go.
When the buzzer goes, everybody stand up two seconds, 3 seconds,

(45:39):
sit back down again as if as if it was normal.
And the patient come in free, free of charge.
When they do this, this day, she's kind of a friend of ours.
Very exciting. Thank you, doctor Rob.
She come in and she sat down. So there's 10 people in the
waiting room that the, the, the the scientific research was, was
ready to go. And then I'm actor stood up and
she's on her phone and she looksat the phone.

(45:59):
Everyone knows we have cameras in there.
She looks at the phone and she went back to her phone.
Everyone sat down, Everyone stood up.
Now phone goes in a lap and she's looking around and this
guy stood up. Everyone sits down. 3rd buzzer,
which equals about four minutes.She start with it, she start up
with everybody else and she sat down with it, which we thought
I'd see that. Then we called the actors in as
if there were patients 1 by 1 and she was the only person left

(46:22):
in the waiting and she stood up.You can't change the people
around you, but you can change the people around you if you
feel it each other. If you have a friend that has a
silly saying, if you hang aroundand long enough, you're going to
say that saying and then kick yourself.
Can't believe I said that. Learned behavior.
And then they're in part of the brain that we thrive on.
Unfortunately, when we're toddlers, that's when we learn
the basics of who to trust and who not to trust.

(46:43):
So mom says don't put your hand on the fire or the the hot
stove, it'll burn you when we doand it burns us.
So what does? What does a child learn?
Whatever mom tells me is the truth.
I have to do what mom tells me when we leave the house and grow
up through school that that belief system stays with us and
what people tell us is the truthuntil we realise 9 or 10 times
not. So if the truth around you is 9

(47:04):
depressed people, you'll become the 10th.
I'm going to challenge you on having only 11 birthdays to go.
Oh definitely, definitely. I'm living to 100.
I'm never going to retire because my space it what is the
retired from? So the desk talking to people
most of the day. It's like, yeah, I, I, I truly
believe that, but. So you involve more than just

(47:24):
the patient. I mean, you're big about
bringing family into your therapy sessions and in
treatment of your patients. What role do caregivers play in
this whole process and how do you go about supporting them
when you're working with dementia patients?
And again, I know you're pretty young in terms of the the
therapy that you're doing, but how do you perform?
The therapy we do in Alzheimer's, the same therapy

(47:47):
kind, well, practically the sametherapy we do in addict alcohol.
So let, let me, let me run alcoholism.
But this is I will find it's thesame in dementia patients and
Alzheimer's when a patient comeson board who's suffering from
alcoholism, when we insist or hecomes on seven days a week, one
hour a day, 90 days done, get out of here and never want to
see you again. It's a quick fix.

(48:07):
We found out that the family systems in treatment sense and
stuff like that is to bring the family in once a month and bash
the alcoholic bash the you know,dad, you're a when you do this,
you make us feel that. And we said to ourselves, ha,
that's not the way to do it. You know, we've especially me,
I've heard all the bashing and some of the kids of a former

(48:28):
life. So what we did is we insist that
the wife or anybody over the ageof 18 takes part in this and
they have to do 2 days a week, whether it's one hour a day, 2
hours a week, 8 hours a month, they have to do that.
If they don't, we will not take on the patient because what we
found is when they both do theirwork because usually it's the

(48:49):
wife, God bless him. You know, it's nothing to do
with me. His problem, he better sort it
out and I'm leaving. And we say what about your
PTSDI? Don't.
I don't suffer any trauma. Well, answer me this, Mrs.
Smith, why do you allow your husband to come home two or
three nights so we can get into a fistfight with you in front of
your children? And of course, the tears start.
It's like both swim to your own rafts.
That's how I explain it. And we'll pull you in together,

(49:11):
all of you into a safe place. So stats on that is when the
family take place with their ownwork, where the husband is doing
his work, the success right alone goes up by 42.
That's one of the reasons we have a 98% success right, kind
of money back guarantee. It's like we've got this right.
But you have to understand, and we're sure it's going to be the

(49:31):
same with short term memory lossis when the family understand
and do their work because as a caregiver it's draining.
As a caregiver, there's lots of trauma there just on its own.
Stuff you're not supposed looking after your parents.
And there's some stuff you don'thave to see.
The mind is like PTSD. That's what you get.
And we did research on PTSD. We did research on caregivers

(49:56):
and housewives or husbands in analcoholic or dementia house.
We tested their PTSD levels and a soldier coming back from
Afghanistan, you've seen action and the PTSD levels are just the
same. So you don't know as a caregiver
what you go through, but you're taking on a lot.
It's affecting you in a terribleway in your body and the mind
and the brain are affected everysingle day by this and you need

(50:20):
to do your work around that. Otherwise you're both going to
go under them. But we missed that out.
Caregivers, I get paid for doingthis.
These therapists and coaches andpsychologists, every time you
see somebody on a regular basis,they take a piece of you away.
If you don't replace that, you see with the 300 neural pathways
dying every day, if I go home and take work home with me, then

(50:41):
300 newer pathways are not new ones, the old ones.
So then I start acting out or behave well.
If I'm acting out or behaviour today, it's not all its current
behaviour and when the current patterning and behaviour takes
tell them be right back to square 1 and people don't think
about that. We have in Dallas before we
moved, we used to have feel goodFridays where I would pay for
all the stuff and all the patients to go out next with

(51:03):
each other. Gonna have your nails done,
hair. Don't just go and do something
amazing. You know, there's like, I don't
know, couple of $1000 go and do it.
The, the, the success rate with the company alone and up by 11%
just on that feel Good Friday. It was insane because now they
try to cramp 5 days of work intofour days.
So now everyone's pushing the same way.
And Friday's that relaxing day when we take care of ourselves.

(51:25):
It's little things like that that we've done to research
healing. It's all about can you be a 10
out of 10 every day course? You can.
Can you permanently heal from depression and stuff?
Like of course you can. You can cure it.
There's a cure. There's no cure of alcoholism
because it's predisposition. We're born that way.
But everything else I truly believe when it comes to site we
can cure. So for someone who's just

(51:47):
received that dementia diagnosis, what message would
you want them to hear first? I would say dialogue to the
partner or if you haven't got a partner to family or something
like that, sit down and and talkabout it.
But but try and try and be sensible because when I tell you
this, it might bring you a little bit more safer to the
thought patterns around the third leading cause of death in

(52:07):
the USA is the medical printer. So when you hear that, you kind
of have to rethink. OK, he's told me this, but is
that true? He's had 10 minutes to tell me
this. I've had a little research.
I had an X-ray and come up with this.
It doesn't mean that can't be reversed.
It doesn't mean at all. So there's always hope.
Try not to get into fit. I know it's horrible when you

(52:27):
receive that, but fair is not our best friend.
You know, dialogue with somebodyelse and then research somebody
like Gary Brecker, who's one of my best friends.
Research what he's up to. BRECKA is turning the world on
its head right now, and a lot ofpeople don't like it about what
we can take and what we can eat and what we can, you know, to
reverse Alzheimer's, to reverse,you know, all these illnesses.

(52:51):
So do you research into that? Stay positive because there's
always a way out of this. But if you get into fair and
negativity and all that stuff and go down, start to get
depressed, it's going to kill you quicker than you think it
is. And I'd hate to see that happen.
So find out the truth of what you're suffering from.
What does Alzheimer's mean? What does it mean?
It's like alcoholism is not about alcohol.

(53:11):
Dementia is not about, you know,you've got to look at what it
means. What's happening in your brain
that's caused you? Do you need to change your diet?
Do you need to have complete sugar free?
Do you need to take this, this, this?
Do you need to get active? All of the above you need to do
now. Will it work in everyone?
We don't know. We're not that far advanced, but
the people that we have seen, we've changed their activities

(53:31):
around. We keep them busy all day and we
have like 69 year old patient here plays tennis on a regular
basis. She's never played tennis before
in her life. New York pathways, new
activities get so exciting stopsset on depressed knowing she's
going to die outside. You know, all this stuff is just
it works guys. You know, now again, when it

(53:52):
comes to anything to do with psych, we are the guys when it
comes to Alzheimer's dementia, we're early in mind.
We're three or four men saying, So what I'm saying is following
the research we've done and the results we have so far is that
there's always belief and there's always, you know, they
stand on since there's always part this and you fall into it.
So it becomes full dementia. And there's got to be sensible

(54:13):
that we have, we have, we have two people in my offices, my
wife and another girl that she knows.
And they, they take phone calls every day of parents whose wives
or husbands who's suffering thatthey can get free advice.
So you can always call, never going to charge, never going to
convert your impatient. God bless you.

(54:34):
We love you, but we don't want you unless you fully want to
come here. But we don't do this.
But you know, please call this number.
Come on, get on our way. We don't do it for that.
If we can hear one person a day,Jeff, while we're doing this,
our job is done. I believe in God just because of
the spiritual experience I neverused to on the streets and got
me off the streets because you know what, He's not going to ask
me when he gets to heaven. He's not going to ask me how

(54:55):
much was that house you left him?
That car's me. How much was that car up?
Not going to ask me that. It's going to ask me one thing.
How many people did you help? That's what I was going to ask
me. I believe not only do I want a
big number, that's the reason I get up every morning, because I
bless somebody monitoring every day.
I know people can't do that. I'm blessed enough to do that,
but I'd rather have. I'd rather put a smile on their
face and it's sitting in the safe for another 12 months and I

(55:17):
compliment 3 people and I'm alsosending them subliminal
messages. Everyone said it's the best
place in the world to work. It probably isn't, but we make
them feel that way. Therefore, the brain takes that
on. I have, I honestly have members
of staff, the special one, we'rein Dallas calling me up on a
Sunday night saying can they getin early?
What time are you in? I need to get in.
Move that into all kinds of psych illnesses and you can get

(55:40):
can get wow, positivity thinkingbecomes if you can, if you can
visualize healing and you're taking the right stuff and
you're active at a 10 times, it's probably going to happen.
We tell every man over the age of 50 to lift weight, you've got
to be lifting weights. I don't care what it is.
I have two sets of dumbbells in my in my yard.
I move around every day with these.
I think I'm the healthiest and more active 64 year old that

(56:02):
I've ever seen because when I look at people my age, I can't
Do I look like that, Janet? No, you don't look like that for
a homeless guy on the streets that died twice.
It's not about transformation, but the reason why I do this
today is to pass this transformation on and go, Hey,
it's not as gloom and doing out there as people.
Legitimately, you want to stop 60% of your problems and your
anxiety in seconds. Turn the TV off, stop watching

(56:25):
the news. It doesn't really affect us.
Think well, such and such amazing government and down,
down, down, down. What have they done for you
personally? Well, I don't get into politics.
What has anybody knocked on my daughter from the government?
Give me $1,000,000 check. No, what I realized is nobody's
coming. So to me, you know, so I don't
get into that. I think I've always found one

(56:46):
another. Sorry guys, it doesn't make a
difference. All the gas has gone up.
Like guys, at the end of the day, live your freaking life.
Take the chances, you know, Never not take a chance.
You miss 100% of the goals that you don't take 100% of.
Penalty kicks you don't take. You miss 100, Take them.
What's the worst kind of Well, I'm I'm scared, Doctor Rob, in
case I fail, don't speak to JK Rowling.

(57:07):
She failed more times than any other author.
She was blatantly told several years ago to go home on the
project, Be a mom. Stop being silly about this
writing stuff because you'll never write a book in your life.
Really. What did she do?
I. Remember, it's really Potter.
Is she a Potter? Pottery.
I don't know. Something like that.
Yeah, I think I've heard of Harry Potter.

(57:28):
Yeah. Did they make some movies about
that? Yeah.
I think so, yeah. Underground movies?
Oh, no, they went to a billion dollars.
Yeah, and that's the one. So when you receive something
off somebody, it doesn't make it's true.
You know when you receive bank, it doesn't make it true.
Just because you're offended by something does not make that
offence sick. It's you being offended by it.
It's you being told bad news from your doctor doesn't make it

(57:51):
true. What makes it true is your
reaction to that news. You see, you can't hurt me or
nobody can hurt me by calling the names of nothing unless they
put my perspective on that. So if you call me an old fool,
if I feel oh, Oh yeah, yeah, I kind of, I get upset what you
said, but if I don't put my perspective on that, who gives a
shit what you say? I don't care what you say about

(58:12):
me. I've stopped that years ago and
that in his own healed a lot of stuff in my body.
I'm just not caring and it's really hard not to care.
Don't you know, 9 out of 10 people I well, he said that I
don't really care. Unfortunately, it's human
behaviour and the way we hear things to the central nervous
system and Charles Trong. The idea is to pull away from
that and realise the truth. Always go to the soul, Jimmy.

(58:34):
You know, he said to you, I saidthis.
This is about you, man. I know it's true.
What's Johnny doing? Oh, he's moved back home with
his parents. Why?
His second marriage has failed. Does he see his kids now?
Where is it? Oh, he's in the spare bedroom of
his mom's and he's telling you stuff about me, about me failing
or something. You know, first of all, why do
you, why did he feel comfortabletelling you?
That's my first question to you,Jimmy, exactly.

(58:57):
Why have you related to me? It's like everybody out there,
guys, is jealous of what you've got, but nobody's jealous how we
got here. And that's the problem with
society today. See, back in my day, the
keyboard warriors didn't exist. If you insulted someone, you got
a smack in the mouth. Kind of heals a lot of them
keyboard warriors. And I think that's a Mike Tyson
thing that I think we should bring that back.
With every bad comment, there should be an address and a phone

(59:18):
number for that comment and I'llsort the stuff out.
Yeah, we could just start complimenting people more.
Keep reflecting back to the interview I did with you on We
Have a Spiritual Problem podcast, and you talked about
how you you could change somebody's day in their life
just by simply complimenting on their sneakers. 2 words.

(59:38):
Nice sneakers. That's it.
And God, I can't change the world.
Yeah. Who's told you that?
Who's put that there? We change the world every day,
you know. Yeah, nice knickers, that's all
it takes. Man, I tried an experiment from
that in the following term. I had all the students in my
classes before we started class,they had to turn to two people
in the class and give them a compliment and then to receive a
compliment. Beautiful.

(59:59):
And it worked pretty well. I mean they, they were a little
bit apprehensive at 1st and overtime they kind of.
I didn't have to really push it as much, but they were like,
come on, let's just get into class.
You don't have to keep telling us to do this every day.
But you notice they would come in and they'd just start, Yeah,
commenting on things the. Guys that found that hard to do
are guys that are still suffering from childhood trauma

(01:00:21):
because we cannot accept a compliment because it was never
validated or approved in the house we grew up in.
My dad never says well well done.
My nervous. My dad would never, you know,
validate me for anything. I did some pretty cool things
when I when I was a youngster because of that all or nothing
brain. But yeah, it's the hardest, the
hardest 2 words in the world forAlcoholics and addicts or

(01:00:42):
depressed people. It's so hard.
God, that's a nice shit you've got and robbed.
Just something I bought, you know, I just, I've had it years.
I just threw it on. Why is he a price tag on the
back of the collar? Oh, but it's like we'd never
want to say thank you. I'll just bought this.
Yes, thank you. That's all you got to say.
But it's very hard to do. But once you get it, it's a lot
easier, man. All these little things that
make life easier. According to the hospital, you

(01:01:03):
have to take these drugs. It says who, who's challenging
this status quo allows. And there's millions of me out
there that are going, you know, something I'm going to shout as
hard as we can and as large as we can for the biggest platforms
that we can get on whilst keeping our feet in the trenches
and looking, keeping our heads in the clowns.
It's like we're not going away, you know, and as we go through

(01:01:23):
more and more people, I have a room, a huge room to bottom in
cards that people thank you cards that people have sat on.
It's like if you do a few of thethings that we've talked about
today, it will make make a change in your life.
It's the smallest thing. You know, if you get up in the
morning and you do the same old things.
I always put my left shoe on 1stand I'm getting dressed.
Try putting your right shoe on 1st.

(01:01:44):
That'll make it. Try putting your right shoe.
Let me know how you go on. Thank you.
Kind of answer my last question I had for you is what your take
home message would be for individuals and families who are
confronted with a dementia diagnosis.
I think come together as a team,come together as a family, come
together as, you know, if it's friends you've got or whatever,
come together as a team because you can't handle this on your

(01:02:05):
own. You know, when it's real early
stages, like there's nothing really wrong with your memory,
but it's going to completely deteriorate.
But right there, if you come as a team, there's power in teams,
there's power in people around you that are always lifting you
up, are always validating you, and vice versa.
Is your change into this anotherperson?
Because at the end of the day, we want to be liked.

(01:02:26):
We want to be loved by people. That we did some trials and
tests in the Hunt prison in Texas that they still, you know,
sentenced to death over here. And what we found over several
years that most of the people that hit the chair or the needle
was insane because the isolationand no identity.
You know, when COVID, we took our identity off us and we

(01:02:46):
isolated ourselves at home. It's the same with death row.
Don't isolate you hurt any news,Don't keep it to yourself.
I don't want to upset the family.
Bullshit. It's not about you not coming
together as a team, working as ateam and God willing, you'll
stay alive for a lot longer thanyou should have.
Doing stuff we're not supposed to do as human beings, pushing
the boundaries, pushing the overlook.
See how far you can. I was in a little office in

(01:03:07):
Dallas when I started this. I kept pushing the envelope
before I am now, but I couldn't have done it on my own and need
these people around me to keep lifting and believing.
It's very hard to believe that you're going to get well.
It's very hard. I heard, I heard someone on the
Internet and it's I'm going to call somebody and I very rarely
do that. I said you've only really got
two things to worry. I'm like, what are you healthy?

(01:03:28):
And if you're healthy right now,even if it's been diagnosed, but
you're healthy right now, you'vegot nothing to worry about.
You've got two things to worry about.
Am I going to get better in the house?
I'm going to get worse. You're going to get better in
the house. You've got nothing to worry If
you're going to get worse, you've got 2 choices to work.
I'm going to a hospital or I'm going to an insanity asylum.
If you're going to insanity asylum and you're out the next
day, you're going to worry aboutif you go into hospital, you've

(01:03:49):
got two things to worry about. Am I going to live or am I going
to die? If you're going to live, you
don't have to worry about if you're going to die.
You've got 2 choices. Do we go to heaven or do we go
to hell? It's only two choices all the
time guys. That's all it is.
Drop the fear, drop the multiplechoices that you need to take.
There's only two and enjoy life and you never know or we never

(01:04:09):
know how powerful the mind is. If you're determined to get
well, if you're determined to restore short term memories with
the help of people like us, thenit will happen.
We've never seen it not happen in other psych illnesses and
ailments that we've treated. I don't know where else to go
with this. I think we have just ended on a
really high point. But I want to ask you, you know,
is there anything we've not talked about today that you
wanted to make sure a message you get through to our viewers

(01:04:31):
and listeners? No.
The only thing I would say is iswe've started a non profit the
Rob Kelly nonprofit.org. We're going to use that money
for the Alzheimer's and dementiaand stuff like that.
We want to really try and back that up.
So if you've got a dollar, stickit in there.
If you haven't, let me know. I'll send you a dollar or two.

(01:04:53):
But yeah, just if you come across it, great.
If you don't, just be. Well, guys, I'm sure we've
touched at least one person. Today is going to change and
that's all I wanted make my day.It's only 1111 here, so I'm
going to have a fantastic day because of this podcast and
especially in you, Jeff, you're amazing.
I appreciate that. You're amazing too.
I love having you on this podcast.
I'm looking forward to having you back on.

(01:05:14):
Let's kind of plan on getting you back on here down the road a
little bit when you have a little bit more data and the
work that you're doing. And we'll share that with our
audience and keep promoting whatyou're doing.
And just, I love what you're doing and just keep shaking the
the box a little bit and keep aging well.
Thank you very. Thank you for listening.

(01:05:36):
Hope you benefited from today's podcast and until next time,
keep aging well.

All Episodes

Rewiring the Brain After a Dementia Diagnosis w/ Dr. Robb Kelly | The Aging Well Podcast | Ep. 293

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

Cardiac Cowboys

The Joe Rogan Experience

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Rewiring the Brain After a Dementia Diagnosis w/ Dr. Robb Kelly | The Aging Well Podcast | Ep. 293