Behind the Scenes of Coastal Comic Con: What to Expect This Year!

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Welcome Mr.
Donald Brock Jr.
To the program.
Again, everybody knows whoDonald is.

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Somewhat of a regular.
Yeah, you.
Ultimately, if we gave outrings or like championship belts
or something, Five Timersrobes, you.
You.
You'd have at least five times club.
Yeah, we're gonna starthanding out robes for.
For coming on the show as many times.
So.
Yeah.
So consider yourself a memberof the five Timers club.

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I think it's been five times,hasn't it?
One, two.
It's probably close to it.
If not, definitely four.
If not five.
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We're going to get into it.
So Donald Brock Jr.
Is here because March 1st and2nd at the Wilmington Convention

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center in Wilmington, NorthCarolina is the second Coastal Comic
Con and we're excited.
I want to introduce DonaldBrock Jr.
Who is the captain of theship, the tip of the spear, the point
guard, the maestro of theorchestra, the QB one, the puppet
master, the pilot of theplane, the shepherd among sheep,
the lead duck, the canary in acoal mine.

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Fuck up.
Good God.
Donald Brock Jr.
Is the coordinator of the 2025Coastal Comic Con.
Again, March 1st and 2nd,taking place this year at the Wilmington
Convention center inWilmington, North Carolina.
Look, I, I had Chat GPTproduce most of those.
I didn't know some of thosewere a thing.
The canary in the coal mine.

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If Brock falls over, leave.
Yeah, exactly.
The canary is the first onethat dies.
I don't want to be the canary.
Wow.
Savage, that's.
Okay, look, so ultimately,because Zach and I have now done
Soda City Comic Con, which isalways an awesome event, first of

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all, I want, what are some ofthe differences between Coastal Comic
Con and Soda City Comic Con?
Besides location?
I mean, that, that might bethe biggest difference.
Okay.
I mean, you know, when, whenyou've, when you've got a formula
that works, you know, why, whychange it?
Yeah, don't disagree at all.
I mean, you know, we have.

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I'll just kind of walk throughthe building in my mind.
You know, we have the retrovideo game room.
Okay.
We have, you know, an exhibithall full of exhibitors and artists
and our celebrity guests.
We have the VR villa, which isa cool, fun thing and is always changing
and having new, new titlesbeing brought online.

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We have our panel room.
And this year we're bringingin a, like a board game room.
Like a traditional boardgaming room with like, what do you
call it?
I don't know if RPG is theright word, but like tabletop.
Tabletop, I guess, yeah.
Warhammer, 40K.
The Dungeons and Dragons.

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Yeah, traditional board games.
I mean, when I think oftraditional board games, I think
of games like, I don't know,Clue, Candyland, Monopoly.
But I mean, obviously theSettlers of Catan, you know, there's
all sorts of board games.
So we're gonna check out a two.
Day Coastal Comic Con DNDcampaign just to see what's happening.
That, that would be a lot of,A lot of time that you spend.

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I don't want to say wastedtime, but that's not, not my thing.
But it'd be a lot of time thatyou invest in a D and D campaign.
My son plays.
We can figure it out.
Yeah, I'm not going to knock it.
My son, My son does D and Dand my daughter also does D and D
at their middle school.
So, you know, that's, that'sgreat that they're doing those extra
activities.
Well, of course you do.

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In your mom's basement, right?
Yeah, my mom had a basement.
That's where we'd be, Brian.
Well, I mean, I have watchedStranger Things.
That's exactly where theyplayed in their mom's basement in
1984 or whatever.
So.
Yeah, that's fair.
But you know, it.
It's similar to.
To.
To Soda City.
And so, you know, we.
We've.
We've created a formula thatwe think works.

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It's fun.
We feel like it's great valuefor what people pay.
You can spend the day therejust doing all sorts of fun things.
And it's in Wilmington, whichis a great, great coastal city that.
Yeah, my favorite beach isWilmington Beach.
Ish.
Inches of snow today, which isvery fun.
I saw pictures earlier onFacebook like Myrtle beach was covered

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in snow.
Charleston is blanketed in snow.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah.
That all these, These coastalareas, these coastal cities are just
got more snow than we got.
It's.
It's.
Yeah, we got a little bit,which was.
Okay.
Yeah.
Some reason where we liveseems to suffer from the dry patch
of air.
So when the snow gets here, itgets over us, it starts falling and

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then it just evaporatesthrough Virga.
Yeah.
When it's time for rain, it's like.
You get all the rain.
Yeah.
Have fun with that.
Yeah.
And then it gets hot.
We get our own natural saunas outside.
Yep.
Well, it's going to be March in.
In Wilmington.
Like, great weather.
The event.
Event last year was the sameperiod of time, right?
It was the same weekend.

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Yeah, it was effectively.
Yeah.
Like even that last.
The very last weekend inFebruary that bled into March, I
think it was February 28th,March 1st or something like that.
Or maybe March two and three.
I don't know.
I don't have a calendar infront of me.
Yeah.
If anyone's interested, theycan look back.
But.
But no, you're absolutely correct.
Like that.
That is a perfect time of year.
We're done.
We're basically done withwinter and we're moving into spring.

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One of the things that alwayslooms for Soda City Comic Con is
that the fact that it's at the.
It's middle of the end ofAugust, the first year we went.
So the first year that we didComic Con was two years ago.
And I didn't think it was tooterribly hot.
It was warm outside, butpeople that were in the lines didn't

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seem too uncomfortable andnobody was passing out, so everything
was good, man.
This past Comic Con.
So to City Comic Con inColumbia, the weather was unbelievable.
Like, the highs were only inthe upper 70s for mid August.
Well, it was.
Yeah, it was.
It was great weather this past year.
I think the prior Year wasalso really nice weather.
We've only had one weekendwhere it was just, like, scalding

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hot.
And I'll.
I'll give a.
A shout out in a stick tap or whatever.
Ring the bells, whatever youguys have for our crew.
I like the stick tap.
Yeah, the stick tap.
Yep.
Big hurricanes fan, if anybodydoesn't know, but there we go.
Yeah.
But, you know, our.
Our staff has just done agreat job in really streamlining

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admissions and getting peoplethrough the door in a very timely
manner so that you're notstuck outside for multiple hours
in the heat.
I mean, there have.
When it's been so hot thatwe've actually, you know, brought
in fans that we've set upalong the way that would just move
some air.
But for the most part, itseems like the gods have smiled upon
all the.
The nerds that gather for popculture weekend in Colombia and have

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blessed us with nice weather.
Of course.
Of course, you know, thisweek, this.
This year, it'll rain on usbecause, you know, no good deed goes
no good.
No good deed goes unpunished.
But exactly.
Yeah, I'm not going to adhereto that.
It's going to be beautiful weather.
We're talking about coast.
So let's start with CoastalComic Con.
Coastal Comic Con is gonna beperfect way tickets are available
now.
You can go to coastal comiccon.com to get your tickets.

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That and I definitely.
So.
So some of the vendors thatare coming are some of the vendors
that are going to be there in Wilmington.
Are they some of the samevendors that we see in Columbia?
We do get some crossover.
You know, we.
I like to think that we run afun and successful event for the
attendees and for the vendors,for artists.

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So when we launched this eventlast year, and I can say that because
it is 20.
When we did launch it lastyear, there was a lot of interest
from our Rolodex, as you liketo say, in the prior conversation
of vendors and artists.
So they're more than happy tokind of follow us, you know, there.

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I know there are other showsout there that kind of, you know,
tour all over the country.
Let's speak, so to speak.
And they have vendors thatliterally, that's what they do.
They just do all theseparticular shows.
I'm not going to necessarilymention any names.
It doesn't matter.
But there are a lot of vendors who.
Who have told me personally,they said they'll say, brock, you
know, whenever you do a show,I'm gonna do your show.

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I don't care where it is.
We're gonna do your show.
We think you do a great job.
And that.
That, you know, hearingsomething like that just, you know,
gives you like, you know, warms.
Gives you a little warmthinside on.
On a cold.
I think we're included inthat, right?
Sure.
Do we?
No matter where you do yourshow, Brock, it could be hell.

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We will be there.
Well, we.
So it doesn't really matter.
We'll broadcast from hell atsome point.
Yeah, like that's a place.
That exists.
Welcome to Michigan.
Yeah, so I've been.
Do you have any.
Sorry.
Can you tell us the guests so far?
Well, yeah, we've announcedall our guests.

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Leslie, I've got missing.
Oh, yeah, so.
So we know six.
So I was writing some downbecause I'm trying to line up some,
like, different interviews forlocal radio up there.
One thing that I findinteresting about Wilmington, that.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Local radio up there.
Yeah, we are worldwide.

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Man, you would not believe ourGerman audience.
You wouldn't believe ourWilmington, North Carolina audience,
which I am a hometown team fan of.
I have family there and everything.
So they're listening.
They're going to listen tothis broadcast?
Absolutely.
They do.
Are they going to come to the event?
I'll send them to.
I'll send them right there toshut the whole thing down.

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I'm just kidding.
Well, that's.
Well, we actually have acouple staff, so he's probably buddies
with.
With our poll.
We have a poll.
Is your.
Is your.
Is your family Wilmington?
Wpd.
Okay, well, I'm sure I'm Ask.
Ask him if he knows PaulRasputt the next time.
I will.
Yeah.
Ask Paul Finesse.
Jamie King.
I'm sure he does.
They all.
They all know each other.
It's like one big fraternity.

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Who would.
Who would have guessed?
So it is.
So the guest.
Yes, Cal DOD is coming back.
Matthew Wason.
And.
Matthew Watterson is bestknown for voicing Magneto on X Men
97.
Cal dot is best known forvoicing Wolverine on X Men, the first
iteration of the fox show.

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And 92.
Yeah, they call it 92, but Ithink that's what, 94.
Yeah.
And then.
Yeah.
And then relaunched in the newX Men 97.
A new guest we're bringing isRoss Marcand, who voices Xavier,
Professor Xavier and Apocalypse.
And he plays Aaron on the Walking.

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Dead and Red Skull, Avengers,Infinity War.
And he also.
I was talking to him the otherday on the phone.
He was telling me like hedoes, like Ultron on what if or.
I don't know.
He does he does.
He does a bunch of James Spader.
If James Spader is not thereto do Ultron, it is Ross Marquan.
And he also does the best BradPitt impression, which I did not

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know is the thing.
He does a lot of impressions.
Yeah, it's.
He is.
He is fantastic.
Zach sent me.
Zach sent me a reel of himdoing, like, all of the impressions
that he does, but they're allganging up on him like it's an intervention,
and they're basically askinghim to stop doing them.
But he is.
So he.
My favorite was the Harrison Ford.
Knock it off.

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So good.
Ross Marquand is a big get.
Like, Matthew.
Nice guy.
Yeah.
Matthew Watterson is.
Is honestly from one of the show.
Favorites from best interviews.
I mean, like, I think the onlyreason that we couldn't get Cal Dodd
was just because Cal Dodd'sline was consistently long.

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Like, everybody wanted to talkto Wolverine, and Matthew Watterson's
line was super long all thetime, too.
But we just happened to find,like, he came back from a break and
we, you know, they halted thelines for us.
He was.
He was.
Go see him at Coastal, like,because he was.
He was such a fun interview,and he was honest with every question

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we gave him, and he was jokingaround sometimes with us.
Just what a fantastic dude.
It was the quality of just,you know, they.
They certainly recognizethemselves as they're sitting behind
a table, they're there signingautographs and taking money for.
For autographs and photos andthings like that.
But they're all just so unbelievable.
Like, everyone that you've hadso far that.

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That I've experienced has beenso down to earth.
I will tell you this.
My.
As much as I love meetingMatthew Watterson, Michael Bell was
the best.
Like, this dude had shit on everyone.
The stories.
The stories he was justtelling, talking to me and Zach about,

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like, his experiences with.
With this guy or.
Or the things that he did hereor MASH or whatever.
Like, it was.
It was such a really coolexperience to just get to talk to
somebody who.
I.
I didn't know who Michael Bellwas, but I.
But, you know, we saw.
We had an availability to gotalk to him, and.
And.
And he just talked to us for,like, what, half an hour?

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Zach.
And he would tell us stories.
Like, he's like, you know what?
I know what.
I told him off.
Like, we were just like, what.
When he was doing.
And then it was Cal.
No, the guy.
The.
The.
The king.
King.
King.
Ezekiel from the Walking Dead.
Yeah.

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He corrected me.
It was fun.
Kari Payton was just standing there.
He had already wrapped up.
We didn't really have enoughtime to get his attention a whole
lot.
And.
And so I thought, hey, I justwalked over until I was like, hey,
if you have any time tomorrow, can.
Can we stop by and talk to you?
He was like.
He's like, talk.
You know, he's like, absolutely.
And they're like, all right,we'll see you tomorrow.
And then he just kept talkingto us, and it just went on.

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Unfortunately, we didn'trecord it.
We still don't have a lot ofthat released even yet.
No.
Yeah, I have stuff withWatterson and with Ghee and let's
see, Storm, I have stuff with.
He's from Brazil, but he'sactually also a South Carolinian

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lander.
Yeah, Lander.
Lander.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I mean, you.
You.
You guys have a really.
A really talented way of.
Of getting a whole.
Or I guess getting thesepeople to.
To come to the shows.
Is there.
Well, okay, so Sam Witwer'sgonna be there.
Of course.
Sam Wit were the voice ofDarth Maul.

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Yeah, he was a good guy.
We've got.
Matthew Wood's gonna be there,who's the voice of General.
General Grievous as well as the.
What are the.
What are the battle dro dots?
Battle droids.
Well, he also plays.
People don't really realize this.
He also plays Bib Fortuna andthe book of Boba Fett and maybe.
Maybe Mandalorian or something.

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I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, they're all theother ones, but yeah, it's.
It.
It's.
It's just.
It's really cool.
So.
And then Kate, Sam Whitwort,and Matthew Wood, they do all the
backup voices for every Star Wars.
Oh, yeah.
Like, they are.
It's funny, like, Sam Witweris so integrated into the Star wars

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universe that he has beenknown to correct.
Like Dave Filoni and peoplelike that.
Yeah, in.
In there, they're laying outthe story.
He's like, well, wait a minute.
No, that can't happen becausethis has already happened, and this
has already happened.
And they're like, oh, you're right.
Like, this guy's a Sith, so hewouldn't do that.
Yeah, we can talk about.
We can talk about some ofthese things offline because I have
some thoughts on.

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On some of this.
But he's.
He's extremely brilliant whenit comes to the Star wars universe.
Matthew Wood is just.
He's just.
He's been nominated for, Ithink, four Academy Awards for, like,
sound editing and stuff like that.
I don't think he's won one,which is kind of.
You would think that, but youthink you would have.
But.
Yeah, he's, you know, he'svery good at what he does.

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They're very good at their trades.
Yeah, it's.
It's.
It's.
It's a really cool lineup thatyou have so far, and I know there
are more coming.
Is there any that you can tellus tonight that will release next
week with this episode?
Oh, crap.
We're live on YouTube and.
Oh, that's.
No, that doesn't.
That doesn't matter.
I mean, as of right now, therearen't any additional plan to guests.

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That doesn't mean.
And this.
This always seems to happen.
That doesn't mean thatsomebody won't fall and fall into
our laps, because it seems tohappen every year where there's,
you know, we're.
Okay, we've kind of goteverything taken care of, and then
somebody comes knocking on thedoor, and we're like, we can work
in.
So there is the possibilitywe're somewhat limited in.

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In size.
The.
The exhibit.
The.
The venue in Wilmington is smaller.
Okay.
And it's one floor, and it'sgot really long concourses.
I don't.
I.
I just.
I look.
I look.
They call them concourses.
We would call them hallways.

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It's a baseball stadium.
No, it's not a baseball stadium.
But it's just weird, though.
It's the way a lot of thesevenues were not designed with events
like this in mind.
They just weren't.
So you.
You work with what you have.
Right?
So, you know, we're.
We're limited in.

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In what we can do.
You'll see when you.
You'll see when you come there.
Yeah.
So I assume you guys are stillplanning to come, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I.
I am definitely gonna be there.
I'll be there for at least a day.
Yeah.
My.
Barring any pregnant wife with twins.

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Oh, oh, oh, yeah.
Brock, did you know Zach'swife is pregnant with.
Okay.
I mean, I don't think aboutit, but.
Yeah, I remember somebody hadtold me that.
Nor should you.
Yeah, it's not me.
It's not me, so I'm good.
That's one less thing I haveto worry about.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
No, I'll be there at least fora day.
And then the thing is, drivingthree hours back to Columbia will

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be a thing.
So maybe a day and a night.
And then see.
Check in that night and seehow it's going.
And then.
Well, you say you have familythere, so you should have a place
to stay.
I could.
I literally could.
Family.
I'm saying wherever Barrett's staying.
And the hotel better be just.
I was.
Whatever.
I was just gonna let.
I was gonna let Zach be thelittle spoon and I could do that.

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Let's do that.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I got fussed at forcalling you guys fat last time, so
I'm not gonna do that anymore.
So y'all can work outwhichever spoons you want to be.
I just know that if you'reboth in the same bed, it will be
warm and comfy.
That's.
I've lost 30 pounds, so therewe are.
You know what?
I'm working on losing someweight too.
Come on down.

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I'm coming.
I did want to bring up, too,with Matthew Wood, the other non
Star wars thing that I need totalk to him about.
So that'll be the next topic.
And he does like to talk to him.
He will talk to you.
He likes to talk.
There Will Be Blood is my alltime favorite movie.
And he.
He was nominated for bestsound editing on that movie.

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I don't know if you've everseen it, but how do you.
How do you cut all the perfectlines that come out of that movie?
I drink your milkshake.
Me and my Sean H.W.
well, oil men.
You see me, you know, me as oilman.
It's.
It's the most quotable movieof all time.
Like, for me, like, if you'veseen it, I love it that I have to
talk to him about that.
He's like, no one talks aboutThere Will Be Blood.

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I.
I'd be surprised if people do.
That's a hell.
And then he also.
It's a hell story there, Zach.
I haven't seen that movie, soI guess I'll have to check it out.
That's crazy.
Who's in it?
Daniel Day Lewis.
Yes.
Paul Dano.
Those are your big two drops.
And have you ever seen Gangsin New York?
Yeah.
Okay, so.

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So it's.
It's long time ago, but yes.
So it almost feels kind oflike the same way the story's being
told, but instead of it beingabout, you know, the being a gang
lord or whatever in New Yorkand, you know, early, early, early
years, it's about basicallyfinding oil in.
In like.

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Yeah, I think it's a Texas orOklahoma or something like that.
And Daniel Day Lewis ischaracter is.
Basically just a monsterThomas Anderson film.
Like if that, you know, I might.
Have actually seen that nowbecause when you, when you first
said there will be what I'mthinking, oh, you got some stupid
ass vampire movie.
And then, and then, you know, I'm.

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I actually might.
It would have been this moviehad to be 15 or 20 years ago, right?
I mean.
Yeah, 2000.
2006.
Five or six.
Almost 20 years ago.
Was that when like Daniel DayLewis is at his height because of
last.
The Mohegans and stuff like that?
Like when he was like one ofthe IT actors.
This was after.
But he like 10 years after last.

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I think he had done Lincoln orhe was doing like it.
Look, Daniel Day Lewis onlycomes out of.
Out of retirement for likevery specific roles and it's always
having to drag him out ofretirement because he retires after
every single movie he does.
Paul Thomas Anderson also didlike Boogie Nights.
So it's that kind of surrealweirdness to it.
Yeah, it's kind of like I put.

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Paul Thomas Anderson on thatpedestal like Tarantino, you know,
to expect out of a Tarantino film.
If you're going to go see PaulThomas Anderson, you.
You kind of know what you'regoing to get.
The point of all that was thatMatthew Wood did the sound, was the.
Sound editor for that and wasnominated for Academy Award for that.
Another one.
I don't think he's won any ofhis nominations, sadly, but I think

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that.
Even the movie won BestPicture, I believe.
I think, I think you're right.
I think it did.
Best leading actor in aleading role.
That was the.
I think There Will Be Bloodwas the same.
Was.
Was that the same year that nocountry for Old Men came out?
Like I want to say it was.
It may have.
Same year.
I don't remember exactly, but close.
Fantastic movies.

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Best cinematography.
Academy award.
Yeah, 1.
At least 1.
2.
I think one of the.
One of the.
And for me, the exciting thingis, is I have become such a fan.
I've watched the X Men 97series three times now.
Really?
Oh.
And I.
Yeah, just.
Just because it's so well done.
Like the story is acombination of several of the different

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comic book storylines from theX Men series.
But it's.
It's just so well done.
And then the way that in someof the episodes they kind of.
They switch back and forthbetween how they're presenting it.
So the.
And, And Sorry, Zach, spoilers.
So the last.
He still hasn't watched it yet.
I have.
I watched it.

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Okay.
Okay.
So.
So the scene where Wolverine'sgetting at the adamantium pulled
out.
Which is from the FatalAttraction comic.
That one, that one has more ofa very Japanese sort of style to
it in.
So they switch betweendifferent genres in the series.
But, but, so I.
Anyway, I've become a much, amuch bigger fan of the X Men 97 series

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as I've watched it several times.
And the whole time I'mwatching, I was like, I was like,
I was.
I was 15ft away from Cal Dad.
I was 15ft away from Wolverineand didn't go over there and say
hello to him, but I stood nextto Magneto the whole time.
And now it looks like I'm onthe bad side.
But I guess Magneto's a semigood guy this series.

(26:02):
That's funny because that'swhy I finished it too.
I was like, Magneto.
There he goes.
He was right.
Hearing these people.
He was right, right.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
So the, as far as, as far asthe, the Coastal Comic Con, one of
the, one of the expectations Ithink that Zach and I have is that

(26:23):
with the vendors that aregoing to be there this time, I guess
for this year, is it stillsort of set up the same way?
Do you have comic book vendorsnext to artists and how it's spread
out?
Yeah, this particular floorplan is everybody's just kind of
interwoven.
There's not necessarily anartist alley where it's clearly defined

(26:44):
that these are vendors andthese are artists.
Everybody's in a 10 by 10 and,you know, we highly encourage everybody
to explore the exhibit hallmultiple times because you just,
you, you may walk by somethingand not really paying attention.
Then you walk by like, ooh,you know, something catches your
eye.
So, you know, it's, it's abigger exhibit hall than in Columbia,

(27:08):
but all the other ancillaryrooms, like I said, it's a smaller
venue as a whole.
So, you know, there's about100 and I don't know, 15 or so 120,
you know, 10 by 10 booths inthe, in the, in the.
Excuse me.
In the exhibit hall.
We've got our celebrities inthere in the back.
So, you know, we, we encourage.

(27:28):
I've got to find you a placefor you guys.
I don't know where I'll put you.
Yet, but we don't need a table.
We'll roam.
You can roam, but if you want to.
But if you want to film andmaybe, you know, yeah, we can film.
We can do something.
But you get a place to sitthem down in person and just be like,
give us a.

(27:49):
Why are you, like, doing this?
Get it just get some one onone time for two seconds.
Well, and here's the good newsabout our production setup now is
that we've, we've actuallyupgraded our equipment to the point
now where we can be much more mobile.
We have lapel microphones thatwe can put on people that we can
hook up directly to a cameraand record the entire thing without

(28:09):
any audio loss or having no microphones.
In the end, just everybody's.
Yeah, it's become, it's becomea much easier thing for us to do
and get quality video, videoand audio out of it.
So I'm excited about the factthat we'll be able to do that this
time around.
Okay, cool.
As, as well as Myrtle beachand, and Columbia.
I think ultimately it's goingto be.

(28:31):
And, and we can go live if,if, if that's request, you know,
if, if that's available and wecan do that then, then we'll go live
on all the social media justso that people will know that, that
Coastal Comic Con is going on.
Also.
Those of you watching liveright now, coastal comiccon.com,
you can get tickets right now.
Plan your whole weekend, you know.

(28:52):
Yeah.
Come to Wilmington.
Wilmington, absolutely.
And that's what's fun becausewe have evolved so much since Columbia,
the last Comic Con inColumbia, to the following on TikTok
that's happening to thetechnology that we have.
It's funny how many stepswe've taken because holding the mics,
that was so hard to rememberbeing all right, who's doing what

(29:13):
real quick.
But the lapel mics, that workperfect, we've tested those.
That's going to be great.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
Let me see, what else, whatelse do we have to discuss as far
as Comic Con?
Because, you know, CoastalComic Con, March 1st and 2nd, Wilmington,
North Carolina, WilmingtonConvention Center.
This year we're going to.
Definitely we've got, afterthat is August, where we'll have

(29:37):
the Soda City Comic Con whereinformation will start coming out
around later, later thisspring in the summer, and then Myrtle
Beach, Boardwalk Comic Con.
So there's three this year.
This will be the first yearthat you have three in a row.
Well, three.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're gonna do one at Dirty Myrtle.
It's gonna be fun.

(29:57):
Well, it's, it's, it's awfullycold Myrtle right now.
So.
Yeah, it'll be nice.
That, that, that's gonna be,that'll be an interesting one because
we have over a hundredthousand square feet to fill up.
And so this, this one, Myrtlebeach will be by far be the largest,
probably 2x relative to theother venues.
So that one will be fun.

(30:18):
It'll, it'll be interesting tosee what we, what we do down there.
Working on a floor plan, I'm assuming.
Sorry, go ahead, Brock.
Sorry.
No, I'm, I'm thinking out loud.
Really.
No, I was just saying I'massuming the Myrtle beach that garners
attention.
People know Myrtle beach.
Whether.
I remember going to Californiaand they had brochures to go to Myrtle
Beach.
And I was like, what?

(30:39):
Yeah, no lie.
I was like, why?
Look, I think that's one thatcan be pretty big.
I don't think you should havea problem.
I'm gonna say this too.
Myrtle beach is one of thegreatest places to go in October
because October is just afteroff the top season, whatever they
call it, season peak.
Yep.
And the, and the cost ofhotels is less expensive.

(31:01):
It's not, it's not that bad.
No, it's not bad because our,our kids, we, we, we either go to,
we either go to Charlotte fortheir birthday or we go to Myrtle
beach and you know, just, youknow, because.
Of the cost, we'll get, we'llgive, I'll give a cheap plug for
Myrtle Beach.
It's been a long time sinceI've been to Myrtle Beach.
When we went down there,talking to them about bringing this

(31:21):
event down there, we, we didget a tour.
You know, some people arelike, oh, that's funny.
You got a tour of Myrtle Beach.
But Myrtle beach is not thesame Myrtle Beach I remember when
I was 12 years old, whichwould have been 30 years ago.
Yeah, I say that, I say thatlike I'm super old.
But anywho, it's, it's, it's different.
It, it's Ori county.

(31:42):
And Myrtle beach is one of thefastest growing areas in South Carolina
because a lot of people fromup north and in the Midwest, you
know, they've sold theirplaces, especially with the advent
of remote work.
They've sold their places,they've moved down.
They want a, a milder climate.
Although they're probablysitting there kicking themselves
today and be like, what the is this?

(32:02):
But it's an outlier.
Yeah, it is, it is.
I mean, you know, we get herein Columbia or Blythewood, you know,
wherever.
Lexington, where you guys arelike, we get snow what, once every
five, seven years?
No, not even, not even thatfrequently of good snow.
We might get, you know, wemight get some flakes, but a good
snow, you know, five Everyfive or seven years, you know, the
Myrtle beach gets it, youknow, I don't know, once a.

(32:23):
Every other decade maybe orsomething like that.
So, yeah, it's an hour exactly.
But they're not going to getany snow in October and it's going
to be nice weather.
It's, it's, you know, they,they've really transitioned away
from that dirty Myrtle lookand reputation and it's extremely
family friendly.
There's so much to do.

(32:43):
We went, we walked on the boardwalk.
We, they got us, put us onthat Ferris wheel that's on the beach.
I am absolutely terrified of heights.
Steve and Rebecca made fun ofme the entire time.
I didn't like it at all.
But yeah, there's, there'sjust so much to do.
It's like you said, it's very affordable.

(33:05):
Lots of great restaurants,lots of activities.
You can come to Comic Con, youcan go sit on the beach in the evenings.
You know, you can walk around.
It's just, it's just a lot to do.
You know, you can park and walk.
It's become very walkable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Boardwalk, all that, the arcade.
And they're continuing to expand.
They're continuing to expandthe boardwalk.
I think it's maybe a littleover a mile, but they're looking

(33:27):
to continue to add to thatover, you know, the next decade or
so.
It's, it's really becoming akind of a hot spot in South Carolina
where it used to be, not.
Didn't have the greatest reputation.
Might not have been thecleanest city, but they've really
cleaned it up.
They really have.
And right after peak is agreat time.
Yeah, for sure.
One of my favorite things todo, I went about like three years

(33:48):
ago, I think, but go wait tilllike 9:00, go down to the pier, walk
out on the pier, go all theway down.
It's just kind of that refreshing.
Like, like you're almost,you're just in the ocean a little
bit getting all that.
People are fishing.
Check out what they're catching.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a shark.
Yeah, that's great.
Yeah.
Comforting.
Yeah.
So, so for, for Coastal Comiccon coming up March 1st and 2nd in

(34:09):
Wilmington is.
Have, have we, have we filledup the number of vendor spots available?
Yeah, 100.
Yep, 100.
That's exciting.
But we're, but we're, we, wewill encourage anybody.
If you want to be considered,send us an email.
The email address isinfoastalcomicon.com I'm the one
that monitors that email.
We put you on Our email listwhere we send out notifications for

(34:33):
new events.
We, we are in the process ofsoliciting for Soda City right now.
It's our 10 year anniversaryor this is our 10th show.
So we're gonna, we're gonna dosomething big.
I don't know quite what it is yet.
We're gonna do some coolthings this year.
We're always taking suggestions.
So if people want to send us suggestions.
Infodacitycomicon.com we use alot of the same emails infoardwalk

(34:53):
comic con so it's not hard tofind us.
I'm excited about the 10thanniversary of the Soda City Comic
Con too because I have someideas that I'll email in, but.
Here we go.
I knew there was a catch.
Well, no, I'll just say one of them.
I think that it'd be reallyneat to have like either on the weekend
of, or maybe the, maybeleading up to the event, but like

(35:18):
an event before the Comic Con,whether it's, whether it's a DJ or
karaoke or something likethat, before the event in the name
of Soda City Comic Con.
But in line sort of with thatis, is there anything that's currently
maybe in the cooking phase ofevents or anything that might be

(35:40):
going on in Wilmington Prioror during the Comic Con?
Well, as we normally do at allour events, we do have a children's
cosplay contest and that'sSunday afternoon.
There is a strong possibilitythat we will do an adult cosplay
contest or 16 and over.
Let's just say young adult toolder adult.

(36:02):
I don't really know what youcall young adult to adult.
That doesn't.
That sounds weird, but thenumber, the number of, the number
of Captain Old Man, CaptainAmerica that's going to show up,
I think that'd be great.
We are looking at doing anadult cosplay contest this year.
I think it's going to happen.
Don't, don't put, put it downon your calendar that it's going

(36:25):
to happen.
But there's been some talkabout that.
There has been talk aboutbringing you back the adult complex
cosplay contest to Soda City.
We have potentially we'rethinking about maybe having an after
hours event at Soda City this year.
Maybe a concert that would be free.
You just have to reserve the tickets.

(36:47):
First come, first serve.
Yeah, really cool.
There's a couple of differentthings that we're trying to figure
out how we could, what wecould pull it off.
The logistics of in thesevarious cities because the more participation
we can get from localbusinesses, the more buy in we can
get.

(37:07):
Just want to remind everybody,Coastal Comic Con is coming up in
Wilmington, North Carolina,March 1st and 2nd at the Wilmington
Convention Center.
You can Visit coastal comiccon.com for tickets now.
You can also see a lineup ofall the guests that are going to
be there.
Do we have the vendors out?
Vendor map out?
Well, my computer's in theshop and I plan to do that this week,
but hopefully I should get itback by the end of the week and then.

(37:29):
Yeah, I'll get that out there.
Well, the important part isthat it actually says it's sold out.
So I think, I think that'sfantastic for the second.
Was it sold out last year?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
See, that's.
I know it's you really, it's.
It's Brock.
It's Brock.
I know he's going to place.
You think he's running here?

(37:50):
That is, that is.
I.
Look, we're excited about itand we look forward to being there
and participating and drivingyour crowds wild with our, our talent.
Well, I'll tell you this, thecrowd in Wilmington, we didn't exactly
know what to expect year one.
Obviously, we felt that therewas an opportunity in Wilmington.

(38:11):
And my partner Steve lives in Wilmington.
He actually technically livesin Belleville, which is right across
the river.
But it's, you know, it is Wilmington.
There's all those, you know,kind of like Columbia has Blythewood
and Lexington and ChapinForest Ache or stuff like that.
You know, all these little,little communities in and around
the metro area.
But we didn't know what to expect.

(38:35):
And the crowd in Wilmingtonlast year was extremely diverse.
We had, you know, very youngkids up to.
We saw two older ladies thatprobably were in their late 70s,
if not 80s, if not older,walking around.
And so, you know, you sayyou're going to wow the crowd with
your antics.
Like, it's a very diverse crowd.

(38:58):
I'm excited.
It's fun in the women in thecity of Wilmington.
It's one of the older citiesin the country.
It's very walkable.
There's a great downtown area.
Once you're kind of downthere, you can literally just park
and walk, you know, kind oflike Charleston, but, you know, it's
kind of like Charleston, I.
Guess Wilmington's the best.

(39:18):
That was always growing up.
Our preferred beach destination.
I love that.
Yeah.
And I spent, I, I, throughoutmy younger adult age, I spent, we
spent weekends or we, wewould, we would rent houses out on
Oak island and then come intoWilmington for some of the nightlife.
Yeah.
But it's a cool town.

(39:40):
A lot of history.
Yep.
Your Wrightsville beach orCarolina Beach.
Just fun.
Yep.
So very cool.
Again, everyone, check outcoastal comic con.com.
that's where you're going tofind tickets and details about the
Coastal Comic con coming upMarch 1st and 2nd at the Wilmington
Convention Center.
I don't want to let you gowithout talking a little bit about
what is going on in Blythewood.

(40:01):
We have the manufacturingplant for Scouts to electric vehicles
that has kicked off.
That's now in full swing.
Oh, yeah.
How, how.
How long?
And for people that don'tknow, Scout, of course, used to produce
before.
I guess they retired their product.
Their.
Their product.
But the, the ScoutInternational truck was one of the
most epic vehicles.

(40:22):
You could drive almost anywhere.
When you watch DiscoveryChannel movies or videos from like
the 70s, 80s, 60s, whatever.
Like, if you watch any ofthese old documentaries, you.
What you see them drivingaround in is these Scout internationals.
And now Scout has chosen SouthCarolina and Blythewood specifically
to have a manufacturing plantwhere they're going to be producing

(40:42):
two brand new electric vehicles.
And if you haven't seen them,check them out on YouTube.
There are plenty of people outthere doing reviews of these two
new vehicles and I thinkthey're fantastic.
And I'm hoping I'd like one.
Yes.
I mean that when.
When the one or two of thefirst ones roll off the line that,
that Brock can get us in to anoperations manager that will let
us do an episode from insideof one of the Scout vehicles.

(41:05):
I think that'd be pretty.
We'll see.
I'm just saying.
I think.
I think that that would be apretty cool thing to do.
And honestly, if I, if I could afford.
Actually, I don't thinkthey're going to be all that.
That all that expensive.
They're not like, they'reepically expensive electric vehicles.
I guess it depends on yourdefinition of expensive.

(41:27):
Less than a cyber truck.
Probably a Ford Lightning areaof damn, Barrett.
Everything's almost.
Most vehicles are less than a cybertruck.
Those.
I'm.
I'm not really keen on those.
So.
My house at one point was lessthan a cyber truck.
My first house that I boughtwas less than a cyber truck.
Yeah.
But they, they are really cool vehicles.
You had an SUV and you have a truck.

(41:47):
And I'm excited that Scoutchose South Carolina.
I know they, they came herefor some of the tax breaks and incentives
and things like that, but.
But it's good for South Carolina.
I can't.
I think that when it came to.
Because did you have, did youor did your predecessors have anything
with presenting to Scout whythey should come to Blythewood?

(42:07):
No, not, not directly.
The town that was more of acounty and state thing.
I think the Richland countyeconomic development and the state
commerce kind of took the leadon that because the property that
Scouts being built on is ownedby the county.
The economic development owned.
Bought that property.
So, you know, I, I have workedwith some members on, on that committee

(42:32):
or that.
It's not a committee.
That's not the right word.
I guess it's a subsidiary.
It's just a, It's adepartment, I guess, within the county
government.
Although there's.
I believe they're.
I think they're dissolving itand they're going to create some
sort of public privatepartnership type entity now.
Okay, but you know, when,when, when the industrial park where

(42:55):
Scout is currently locatedwas, was originally drawn up, the
idea was to have like 25different sites and they were going
to build like a, like a poorpad and build like a spec building,
you know, with the 150,200,000 square feet, something like
that.
And they had a couple ofcompanies that were interested in
coming.
A couple of them fell through.
Doesn't really matter at this point.

(43:15):
It's all water under the bridge.
But, you know, then they.
Scout was looking for, for a place.
I think there was a site inMississippi and maybe one in Kentucky
to what.
What they were looking at.
And you know, a lot of peoplehave complained about, oh, you know,
the state sold out the state.
The taxpayers are paying for this.
If we didn't, they, theywouldn't be here.

(43:37):
So, you know, my businesspartner always tells me, you got
to spend money to make money.
Yeah, yeah, it holds true.
And yeah, you know, SouthCarolina put up, we put up a significant
incentives, infrastructure incentives.
They're building a newinterchange, they're widening roads.
They're, you know, we'reputting in the infrastructure which
Blythewood needed anyways.

(43:58):
I guess Zach's gone, butBlackwood needed it anyways because
the Northeast is just, it'sjust growing leaps and bounds.
And the, the critics will say,well, this is just going to add to
the growth in the Northeast.
Maybe it might speed it up,but people are going to come in this
direction just because we havegood schools, we have a good quality
of life.

(44:19):
You know, all your servicesare up.
So, you know, now you've gotjobs that can cater to the people
that are living Here.
The great thing about amanufacturer and an employer like
Scout is that you can find 60,70, $80,000 jobs, you know, out of
high school with a little bitof technical training that you didn't

(44:39):
have before.
And if you think about it, youknow, if you just do some simple
math, if you have 4,000 jobsthat pay an average of $60,000, I
mean, that's almost a quarterof a billion dollars right there.
Yeah.
Annually.
Annually.
Not just, oh, one time.
So it really does put a lotof, put a lot of money back into
the local economy, the state economy.

(45:00):
And it, it will ultimately bea good thing.
Again, people are not thrilledabout it.
Oh, you've destroyed thissleepy little town.
Well, Blythewood was a sleepylittle community until i77 cut it
in half.
Either in the, it's eitherlate 70s or early 80s when 77 came
through.
It's only a matter of time.
Development follows interstate states.
Don't be surprised when this happens.

(45:22):
And you know, if people don'tlike it, we, for the most part, we
live in a free country.
I mean, I'm not telling themthat to pack up their bags and move,
but they have that option.
Your property's gonna be worth more.
Yeah.
And you're not, you're not wrong.
You know, the, the idea that,that Scout could have gone to any
one of those other sites, theycould have gone to another state.
I think there was either 30something or 40 something other sites

(45:45):
that were actively hoarding them.
I mean, you don't land ainternational vehicle manufacturer
every day.
And their lead investor is Volkswagen.
Everybody knows this.
And they're like one of thetop five or six employers in the
world.
And if you hear all the, oh,they're laying off people.
This, that and the other.
Well, yeah, you know,economies are cyclical.

(46:06):
You have your booms and yourbusts, but they know what they're
doing.
So this isn't some fly bynight operation.
I think that it's, I thinkthat it's good for South Carolina.
I think it's good for Blythewood.
And I'm excited for itbecause, you know, I ultimately that's,
that's one of the things that,you know, when I first moved here,
I was part of an organizationthat moved here and created, you

(46:27):
know, 3,000, 4,000 jobs inWest Columbia.
I worked for NCR.
NCR promised to bring jobs and.
But NCR is a software company.
They, they used to behardware, but they're, they were
a software company.
And the problem with softwarecompanies like that coming to South
Carolina is that it doesn'ttake anything for them to pack up
and leave.

(46:47):
And a company likeInternational Scout coming or Scout.
Sorry, Scout coming in, youknow, there is a foundation that
cannot be abandoned withoutunbelievable cost to themselves in
this situation.
And, and so basically what'shappened is now Scout has invested
in South Carolina, their future.

(47:07):
And, and they've done itbecause South Carolina has companies
like Lockheed Martin, we'vegot companies like BMW that are here
in, you know, whether it's inGreenville or in Charleston.
Yeah, Boeing, Volvo's here.
I mean, this is a, this is astate that is friendly to these large
companies.
And, and, you know, you'regoing to get your naysayers that
say that, you know, it's,it's, it's hurting the economy, it's
hurting, it's hurting the, thetraditional South Carolinians that

(47:29):
have been here for generationsand, and whatever.
But it's like, look, that hurtis going to be felt everywhere by
everything.
What's going to happen regardless.
Well, Barrett, I mean, if youreally want to think about it, a
traditional South Carolinianis not a very wealthy individual.
They're just not true.
They're just not.
So if you want to stay livingin that socioeconomic level, then

(47:51):
you're welcome to do that.
But there are other, there areothers that don't, that want a better
life for themselves, for theirchildren, for their children's children.
And the only way you're goingto get that is if you innovate and
bring in employers that aregoing to be able to help people rise
up.
You know, this could be, thiscould change, be, be a generational
change for a lot of people,because you can work.

(48:13):
And again, there's nothingwrong with people who work in the
service industry or they workin jobs that pay 15, 16, $17 an hour.
But imagine if you can learn askill and double your hourly wage
with insurance and retirementand benefits, all the other benefits.
Like, why would, why wouldanybody be opposed to that?

(48:37):
Like, you're improvingthousands of people's lives and it's
not.
I feel like I'm on a, youknow, speaking tour for Scout.
Scout has their problems.
Don't you know, it's not, it'snot walking down the yellow brick
road to find the wizard, andthe wizard has all the answers.
Because there's.
If you, you told us, you toldme earlier that you spend a lot of

(48:58):
time watching the SCTV feed atthe Journal Assembly.
Yeah, there's, there are some,there are some issues that are going
to Come down the path probablythis year with Scout, and, you know,
that's for the journalassembly to decide.
I have my opinions.
It's not my place to expressthem necessarily, unless I was asked
by somebody.
But you're not asking, so I'mnot telling.

(49:20):
But, you know, I forgot.
I forget where I was going.
But.
Well, it's.
It.
It has a lot to do with the.
The.
Basically.
It's.
It's.
It's about.
I think, for.
For a lot of people, it'sabout how is this going to affect
my daily life and where.
Where is.
You know, it's the town count.
You have.

(49:41):
Where I was going.
Okay, go ahead.
Go for it.
No, I'm just saying, like, youknow, how's it gonna affect my life?
Well, it might not like me personally.
It probably won't affect me directly.
I'm probably not gonna go workfor Scout, which is fine.
One of my kids might, though.
You don't know, Maybe one ofthem becomes a civil engineer or
a mechanical engineer.

(50:01):
You know, maybe one of myneighbor's kids.
There's plenty of kids thatare in my.
That live in the neighborhoodthat I live in.
Even though we have 50 houses,there's plenty of kids.
Maybe one of them goes to workfor Scout.
They don't have to go to Charleston.
They don't have to go to Charlotte.
They don't have to go toGreenville or a major city on the
east coast to find a goodquality job, an innovating job.
Because, you know, automobilemanufacturing is always innovating.

(50:23):
And what I was going to sayis, you know, Scout will impact thousands
of lives.
You know, they're going tohire 4,000 plus people eventually
when they ramp up into three shifts.
But it's not just the jobsthat Scout creates.
It's the jobs that Scoutbrings with them, like Scout, the
Scout plant.
They're not.
And I say this, they're notactually manufacturing vehicles.

(50:46):
They're assembling vehicles.
Right?
They're getting all the partsand they're putting them all together
to make a vehicle.
Vehicle.
But they don't make the parts there.
They make the parts all overthe place.
And you have these OEMsuppliers, and they're also going
to create jobs because there'ssomebody making the headlights, there's
somebody making the batteries,which, you know.

(51:06):
Oh, they're electricbatteries, whatever.
There's somebody that makesthe, you know, Michelin might make
the tires, or they get themfrom somebody else.
Every component that goes intothat vehicle is.
Is made somewhere else.
So, yeah, all those are jobs.
And they're probably not goingto be too far away because as you
know, if you're making aproduct and you're a thousand miles
away, you got to get it to theassembly plant that if you're shipping

(51:29):
something a thousand miles,that costs you some money, but if
you're only shipping at 20miles, that's so much better.
So there's going to be a lotof jobs that are created.
I call them ancillary jobs.
They're the support for themanufacture for the assembly plant.
Yeah.
And.
Well.
And what else is it going todo just for the region in general?
Because when you bring in.
When you bring in somethinglike this, like.

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Because I lived in Atlantawhen Ford was building the Taurus
in Dorville, and the number ofpeople that were, like you said,
three shifts, the number ofpeople that work there, the amount
of support that, that, thatthat plant provided for the Doraville
shambly Tucker area, and thenumber of people that said, oh, yeah,
like they worked there, theirneighbors worked there.

(52:13):
And it be.
It was a, it was hugecommunity, you know, spread out,
of course, but it was, it wasa huge community that supported help.
We.
We.
Ford became one of thesponsors of the, the.
The high school football teamsand the baseball teams and things
like that.
So there were.
There were so many littlebenefits that seem.
That seem minuscule when youlook at them one by one, but then

(52:35):
you find out, oh, the team had bought.
Didn't have to buy theiruniforms this year, which normally
falls on the parents.
The team.
The team's uniforms were paidfor by Ford.
So, you know, these are allthese little things that I don't
think people always recognizethat are the benefits to having a
major corporation likeVolkswagen Scout come in to a situation

(52:56):
like this.
Not that, not that Blythewoodneeded the help, but Blythewood,
I think the opportunity forBlythewood to become a better.
And this is going to offendpeople, but a better version of Harbison
or Irmo is totally there.
As far as, as far as growthfor Blythewood, is there, Is there

(53:18):
anything that's been discussedor anything that you all have seen
from the county or from thecity council or the town council
portion of it that, that, thatmight be in the works that could
be discussed at all.
I mean, not, not really simplybecause the.
The town of Blythewood ispretty well developed.

(53:39):
Like, there aren't a lot oflarge parcels in town that are lacking
development.
I mean, you know, there's acouple of them that may be 60, 80
acres, but nothing, no,nothing big.
Oh.
Most of what surroundsBlythewood is unincorporated Richland
County.
So I say that to preface bysaying like, you know, you know,

(54:01):
we can only.
We only have a say in whathappens within the town limits, right?
Yes.
So if Blythewood wants tocontinue to grow, then we've got
to annex, which there's prosand cons to that.
And it's not as simple as justknocking on somebody's door say,
hey, we're going to annex you.
You know, there's a couple ofprocedures or methods.
I guess that's the better word.

(54:21):
Here's your muffins.
Yeah.
You know what?
You know, there's more to itthan just, you know, sending somebody
a letter say, hey, do you wantto annex into the town?
They can.
They can choose to, but there.
There have been a couple ofother businesses that I've heard
that may be willing to.
To come here.

(54:42):
I don't want to.
I don't know if I'm at libertyto say about it because it may not
materialize.
But, you know, when you bringin a large employer like that, you
are going to have businessesthat follow there.
There will probably.
They'll probably at some pointbe another hotel.
They'll probably be a hotel onthe other side.
I live on the.
The.
If you're riding up 77, Iguess that would be the east side

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of Blythe.
The west side is where Scout is.
I live on the east side.
I suspect there'll be a hotelon that west side.
I suspect at some point we'llget another grocery store.
You know, there will probablybe some sort of recreational outside
of golf in town, you know, acouple of additional restaurants,
maybe some additional shopping.
Where's that going to be?

(55:26):
I don't know.
It could just be a Killian,you know, still be it Killian.
But.
But you know, when BMW locatedin Greer.
I mean, look at.
Look at.
Look at Greer and Taylor's andSimpsonville and.
And, you know, t.
Travelers Rest and Malden andall those little communities.
I mean, they all grew up andit's all thanks to BMW.

(55:49):
So, yeah, you know, Blythewoodshould be the same.
Well, I'll.
Kudos to the job that you and.
And the other council membersand Mayor Sloan are doing in Blythe
Wood, because from theperspective of someone that lives
in le.
And don't get me wrong, Idon't have any issue.
I don't.
I don't have any real, like,concrete issues.
With anything going on in thetown of Lexington.

(56:10):
I don't live in Lexington.
I don't live in the town ofWest Columbia.
I live halfway between the two.
But I have a relationship withthe mayor of West Columbia, and I
have a relationship with someof the people that are on in the
council in Lexington andsometimes now.
Now Mayor Tim's fantastic inWest Columbia.
I know him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But Lexington, sometimes Iquestion maybe some of the decisions

(56:34):
that get made.
Mayor Tim is very upward andupfront about the decisions that
are being made from a.
From a city council for West Columbia.
Their meetings are completelyopen, and you can have.
You can get in touch withalmost any.
Almost any of them, any.
Anytime you need.
But, you know, Blythewood isone of those communities where, you
know, if I.

(56:54):
If I didn't want to live thisclose to the airport because my job
was there at.
When I moved here, Blythe wasone of the places that I probably
would have considered moving.
I'm not going to move becauseI don't want to buy.
I don't want to.
I don't want to buy another house.
I don't want to have theresponsibility of a mortgage anymore.
Now that that's all done with,it's just.
It's better for me to stayuntil I die.

(57:15):
But so.
So again, just.
I think the job that you alldo in Blythewood and the things that
I read in the state or in thePost and Courier of the things that
go on in Blythwood, I thinkyou guys are doing a good job, and
I.
I think you should patyourself on the back.
So the only other thing I wasgoing to say is like, look, anybody
that's watching this episode,I know that I just want to put it

(57:38):
out there because we havegained a fairly substantial number
of followers and subscribershere in the last few weeks.
Donald Brock is not one of theliberal Democrats that we normally
get on this show.
Donald Brock, to me, is moremiddle of the road, potentially libertarian,
adjacent to Democrat andRepublican and, And.

(58:03):
And these are the kind ofpeople that we would really like
to get on our show to talkabout the stuff that's going on around
in Columbia.
You know, we'd like theopportunity to have guests that,
that.
That have differing opinionsfrom us, because if Brock has a different
opinion, he will tell me.
Yeah, I'm.
I'm pretty active.
I.
I lack some tack every now and then.

(58:24):
I was gonna say it usuallycomes with being punched right in
the ear, but it's.
Well, I mean, you Know, you,you said you used the word liberal
Democrat.
I, I, I, I would not labelmyself a Democrat.
I, if I had to pick a party, Iwould probably say Republican.
And I say that by prefacingthat I don't like what the party

(58:45):
is.
So if somebody says, oh,you're a Republican.
You're a big fan of Trump.
No, I wouldn't say I'm a bigfan of Trump.
I don't hate everything thatTrump wants to do.
I mean, I'm not going to, youknow, bullshit around, be like, oh,
yeah, Trump's the Antichrist.
No, I don't think Trump's the Antichrist.
Trump's just a man, and thecountry spoke.

(59:05):
And, you know, we've got fouryears to deal with it.
I mean, it could be shorter.
I mean, he could die.
I don't know.
But he's, he'll be the oldestpresident if he serves out his full
term that we've ever had.
Bad, you know, so somethingcould happen.
You know, who knows?
I don't, I, you know, Icertainly don't would think that
anybody would try to shoot him.
I think that was the.
If you want to find a way tomotivate a political base, try to

(59:26):
assassinate the leader.
And then what I was, I'mtrying to remember where I was.
Oh, I was in Charleston that,that Saturday when that happened.
I remember this.
And somebody sent me a text orcalled me and said, hey, did you
see that?
Somebody tried to kill Trump.
And the first words out of mymouth was, well, this election's
over.
That's it.
Yeah, that was it, that day.

(59:47):
It was in July, I think, ifI'm not mistaken, that was the day
that, in my opinion, he wonthe race because it fired it.
You want to light a fire undersome of these people's asses, that's
the way to do it.
I, I got a very similar textbecause I, I think I was watching
a Braves baseball game, and Igot a text message.
I think it was from Zach back.

(01:00:07):
And he sent me a message.
He said, dude, are youwatching the news?
Or maybe it was Leroy, but itsaid, dude, are you watching the
news?
And I was like, I was like, no.
What's up?
He said, he said, somebodyshot at Trump.
And I said, and my, withouteven thinking, all I texted back
was, well, that's convenient.
Because, because ultimatelythe stars aligned.
You know, it was.

(01:00:28):
And, you know, I don't, Idon't necessarily believe that there
was any pre planning on it.
I think this was just a kidwho had felt Disenfranchised, didn't
have any friends and decidedhe wanted to make a name for himself
by doing it.
And ultimately it didn'treally work because no one, if you
just ask someone on the streetthat knows that it happened, they

(01:00:50):
can't tell you what his name was.
He was a 22 year old kid thatwas basically stuck in his parents
bedroom and didn't really haveanything going on.
His parents were Trump supporters.
They bought some seven oreight signs to, to go to his campaign,
that, that show, you know,that were all strung in front of
their front, his front, theirfront yard.
And this was a kid that, thatif it had been Biden, he shot at

(01:01:13):
Biden.
It didn't matter who it was,it didn't have anything to do with
politics.
It was about trying to make aname of himself and, and ultimately
it failed.
Yeah, and there's, there'sabsolutely no room for violence related
to politics.
You don't have to like thePresident, you don't have to like
the Vice President, theCongress, you know, Supreme Court

(01:01:34):
justices, whomever, butthere's, there's, there would be,
there's no reason for anybodyto ever go out and, and try to end
someone's life because you, Idon't know, feel either, like you
said, feel disenfranchised oryou feel bad or you felt like life's
dealt you, dealt you a bad hand.
Like there's, there's, I'mnot, we're not trying to, you know,
give a, you know, I don'tknow, a speech for encouraging people

(01:01:59):
to get therapy or whatever.
But.
Yeah, yeah, it's not a TED Talk.
But at the same time, like,you know, people, people gotta wake
up.
And, and yeah, like if you'reunhappy about the election, okay,
you know, it's okay.
You know, there were, therewere the same people that are happy
today were extremely unhappyfour years ago and they, and they

(01:02:20):
got through with it.
You know, do I think that somethings happened, you know, approximately
four years ago that they'vekind of decided to forgive and try
to forget and all that stuff?
Yeah.
You know, the J6ers, as theycall them, not thrilled about that,
but I will, I will.
So, so my opinion on that waswe all knew that Donald Trump was

(01:02:42):
going to pardon them becauseit was a campaign, it was a campaign
prompt.
Yes.
Don't be upset about it.
Yeah.
There cannot be shock aboutthe fact that he fulfilled a promise.
Did he?
And ultimately I saw thesigning because they, they aired,
they aired it in front of a,they Well, I, or I saw the executive

(01:03:02):
orders being signed and thenwhat they do, like, he.
Signs and then he'll hold itup like this.
Like he's showing off like a baby.
Like, hey, look at this.
Like, and he cares, you know, I.
Wonder, I wonder if we havethat to look forward to.
For every bill that he signsinto law and every executive order,
don't they.
Sign like four or fivedifferent copies and they hand people
pins and.

(01:03:22):
Yeah, but they don't usually.
They don't usually rent out anarena for, for, for 20,000 people
to stand there and watch.
I want to.
Is that, Is that what they did?
I'm completely.
So he held a rally to signexecutive orders, and he signed them
and held them up.
They all cheered in his, in his.
Defense, it was, it was a, itwould have been.
I don't think they would havedone that originally.

(01:03:44):
I think they would haveoriginally signed.
He would have signed executiveorders in the President's room at,
at, at the Capitol.
That's where it would havetaken place for a lot of that.
That.
But I think because thedecision was made to move the inauguration
indoors there for people thatwould have been on the parade or
people that would havepotentially been in on the Mall for

(01:04:05):
the inauguration, they didn'tget to be there for it.
So they held a smaller venueat the arena, which only holds like
20,000, like maybe standingroom only 21,000.
But it's a, it's a muchsmaller facility.
And.
But yeah, so what they did wasthey brought a desk out and had him
signing executive orders.
And there was a, the, the,the, his, his.

(01:04:27):
What do they call it, hisgroomer or whatever it is, the person
that stands next to him andtells him what this is for and whatnot.
It was.
And they didn't sign all theexecutive orders there.
They did.
They just did some of thebigger ones that were going to draw
a lot of emotion out of the crowd.
It was entertaining to watch.
But, you know, I, I'm, I'm nota Trump fan.

(01:04:49):
I just, I just exist in thisTrump world.
Old.
Well, you know, but no oneshould be surprised at any of this
stuff.
Yeah, he, he's an entertainerat the end of the day.
You know, I mean, he, and he'sbuilt and he's made himself quite
a, quite a fortune on businessdeals, real estate deals and providing

(01:05:10):
entertainment, and he's reallycaptured a segment of, of the country
that just believes in, in whathe says and what he stands for.
And again, again, there weresome Trump policies that he enacted
from 20, from 6, 17, I guess,to 21 or whatever that I thought
were just fine.

(01:05:31):
But I'll also take the sameposition of there was stuff that
Biden did that I.
That I thought was fine.
There's stuff Obama did,there's stuff George Bush did that
I have no problem with.
You know, you're not gonna.
You're not gonna.
There's no such thing as aperfect candidate.
Right?
Right.
There's not a candidate that'sgonna make 100% of the people 100%
happy 100% of the time.
Time.
This just doesn't exist.
You just have to ask yourself.

(01:05:51):
I think I was with somefriends down in Atlanta, and this
was before the election,because I think one of the things
that I think both.
I think this was certainly oneof the things that Trump on the campaign
was.
Was talking about is he wouldask people like, is, is your life
better now than it was fouryears ago?
And honestly, I.
Contrary to what people wantto say about inflation and this,

(01:06:12):
that, and the other, I thinkfor most people, the answer is yes,
their lives are better.
My life was better.
My life is better today thanit was four years ago.
The stock market continues to increase.
I'm employed.
We have successful businesses.
You know, people have morecontrol over the.
The positives and negatives intheir daily life than the federal
government ever will, 100%.

(01:06:34):
And they got.
And sometimes you just got toget off your ass and just get going,
because the only person that'sgoing to really help you is you.
Yeah, I think.
I think when I look at myreaction to some of the things that
happened in 2017, I haveevolved from that to recognize that,
look, some of the things thatI disagreed with aren't necessarily.

(01:06:56):
And some of it is because someof the policies sometimes seem like
they are specifically designedjust to disenfranchise somebody.
Do we have an immigrationproblem here in the United States?
We don't do.
We don't have a perfect border situation.
We don't have a perfectimmigration system.
And so I agree that is a problem.

(01:07:18):
Are we handling it the waythat I think we should?
No, because ultimately, whenit comes to immigration, we as the
United States are a dying country.
If we don't have immigrantscoming to our country, do they need
to come here legally, 100% inorder to get them here legally?
We need to do better about theimmigration system we have in place.
That means more judges tosecure the border.

(01:07:40):
We need more border enforcement.
Well, I don't know that.
I don't know that wallsactually fix anything.
But, you know, that's, that's,I'm not an engineer that, A civil
engineer that can wrap my headaround that.
No, but, you know, but we'vegone from one extreme to the next,
so, you know, and somewhere inbetween is the answer.
Yeah.

(01:08:00):
Ultimately, Congress needs tocome up with a solution, and Congress
isn't.
Congress isn't doing anything.
Since when has Congress evercome up with a viable solution for
anything?
The 60s?
Well, yeah, the Civil RightsMove act or the, the, you know, equality.
You know, that was, that wassort of a big deal.
But then we went right intothe Vietnam War, so mistakes were

(01:08:24):
made, you know.
Well, but no person is perfect.
No Congress is perfect.
No government's going to be perfect.
You know, people critic,people criticize this country all
the time.
And I just kind of want to belike, like, well, where else would
you rather go?
Yeah, where else can you goand have the same opportunities like
you have opportunity.

(01:08:45):
It's not anybody else's faultif you don't take advantage of the
opportunities that, that, thatare, you're presented.
It's not really given, it's presented.
And if you choose not to takeadvantage of it, yet you sit around
and complain.
Because woe is me.
Everything.
You know, I don't, I don'tget, you know.
Well, I, I, I don't reallyfeel that bad for you because, you

(01:09:08):
know, Steve and I started abusiness and we didn't know what
the hell was going to happenwith it.
We didn't know if it was goingto be successful.
We put in a lot of time, effort.
You put in resources.
It takes away from your family.
I mean, when you, when you runyour own business in this country,
like, you work 24 7, ifsomething happens, like you, you,
you know.

(01:09:28):
Yeah.
With, like your podcast, like,if you don't do it, nobody else is
going to do it for you.
Yeah.
You know, it's the same thingwith, with an event or starting a
company, like, you know, people.
And I don't want to knock,like my kids and your kids and, you
know, a younger generation,but there's, you know, of course

(01:09:50):
people are going to lovehearing this, but this is, this is
the, this is the segment ofthe program, ladies and gentlemen,
where we get to express ouropinions and we're not judged.
Quit judging us.
Yeah, yeah.
This is not, this is not theopinions of Soda City Comic Con or
the town of Blackfoot or anything.
These are my opinions and Iown them.
You can hold the All AboutNothing podcast accountable for Them.

(01:10:11):
No, no, no, no, no, no.
But, but, you know, we gotta,we gotta get past this entitlement
that a lot of people and a lotof Americans, and it might not just
be Americans.
The only reason I say Americais because that's who I'm exposed
to every day.
Day.
Right.
But a lot of people just havesome, like, like, I deserve this,
I deserve that.
Or I should have this, Ishould have that.

(01:10:32):
Just because, just because,you know, either I'm born or whatever.
Like, you know, we, you know, people.
There'S a, there's a sense ofprivilege that people feel that.
Privilege.
Yeah.
And it's, it's got to end.
Like, one thing, like, youknow, we can go back into politics.
Trump is.
Because I don't think anyonecan say that Trump is not pro America.

(01:10:55):
I think that'd be a hardargument that they say, oh, he's
in love with Vladimir Putin.
I don't buy that.
I think that's some pomp and show.
That's what the media wantsyou to think or one side of the media
wants you to think.
I think he just wants to be apart of the club.
Well, he's the leader of the club.
He don't have to be a part ofthe club.
He's the leader.

(01:11:15):
Yeah, but I think he wantsthem to like him.
I think I, I think that, Ithink that's, that is because if
I'm.
The president of the UnitedStates, nobody has to like me.
Well, and that's you and me.
Yeah.
You don't have to like me.
But, but I have, I haveexperienced Donald Trump in person
at radio conventions that wedid when he was doing Celebrity Apprentice.

(01:11:37):
This is the, and, and it's not.
He is, he is not.
That dis.
The images that you saw of himsitting next to Obama at Carter's
funeral, General, that isDonald Trump.
Donald Trump is, Donald Trumpis a guy that wants people to like
him at the surface.
This is, this is him as an individual.
He wants people to like him.
He wants people to like him.

(01:11:58):
He wants to be a part of the group.
He wants to be included.
And ultimately, theRepublicans have figured out with
Donald Trump, if they justcontinue to feed in that ego now,
it diverts, it gets sidelinedby the fact that he already has an
ego go.
But, but they know that theycan control him in a lot of ways

(01:12:19):
because all they have to do isjust tell him everything.
J.D.
vance stands there.
J.D.
vance is, is, I, I, I, Idon't, I don't particularly like
some of his politics But Irecognize the dude is a fantastic
actor because he will standright there behind Trump and it doesn't
matter what comes out ofTrump's mouth, he is going to applaud
it every single time.

(01:12:39):
And, and, and that isessentially how the Republicans were
able to court Donald Trump andthen Donald Trump took over.
So, you know, but, but I'lljust say in person, on a, on a, Watching
him interact with the peoplethat I worked with at radio stations
with, genuinely one of themost friendly individuals you could

(01:13:01):
potentially meet.
He would, if, if, if, if youneeded a chair, he'd make sure somebody
got a chair.
Care.
Like, genuinely very friendly.
The guy that I see saying thestuff that he does on True Social,
that's a different guy.
I am that.
That's our president.
It's a different platform.
He's talking to a different base.
Yeah.

(01:13:21):
A different audience.
Like, you know, I, I suspectthat most of these national politicians,
if you got, if you kind of satthem down one on one, you're going
to get a different personbecause when the cameras are on versus
the cameras are off.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't.
Again, you might not, might not.
Like you said, you might notagree with all his policies.
But I mean, there are somethat you get, you know, people very

(01:13:43):
much like, yeah, okay, that,that's common sense.
That makes sense.
You know, America first.
Let's make stuff in thiscountry, you know, let's bring jobs
back to this country that havebeen lost and stuff like that.
Everybody would be like, yeah,we should do that.
No problem.
Yeah.
Which, which ultimately isTrump and Biden agreeing on the same
thing.
Let's bring the, let's bringthe jobs back to the United States.
The.
Biden did the same thing.

(01:14:04):
The CHIPS act brought job theUnited States.
Like, these are things thatBiden did.
But, but if you get, if youtell that to somebody, if you say,
say that, well, I supportDonald Trump because he wants to
bring jobs back to the United States.
Well, Biden did that.
Biden, Biden's administrationbrought jobs back to the United States.
I mean, we produce the chipsnow that have lowered the cost of
vehicles in the country.

(01:14:24):
So, you know, it's, it's.
Well, we learned during COVIDthat, you know, you need to have
the important parts of, ofthese vehicles and other, other.
Used cars became ultimatelythe thing that people were trying
to buy the most because wedidn't have new vehicles being produced

(01:14:45):
because we didn't have the chips.
The, the, the, the demand justwasn't there.
Yeah, I think TaiwanSemiconductor is actually now building
a mega site I think in Arizona.
That was part of the CHIPS Act.
Well, that was.
They also identified that as apotential national security risk
because if China decides totake over Taiwan and then they take.

(01:15:06):
They basically confiscate allthe businesses, then we're relying
on Taiwan to get our chips and.
Yeah.
Anyway, so.
But yeah, well, there's alwaysgoing to be that potential threat
of some security risk to.
You know, the whole ideabehind TikTok being a security risk,
national security risk is, youknow, I assume have.
I've.
I've read through the, theTikTok agreement, terms of terms

(01:15:30):
of service agreement, the sameas I've read through the Facebook.
I haven't because honestly I,I don't care.
I mean.
But I do recognize when itcomes to.
And this is nothing againstTikTok, but it's.
But I do recognize that thereis potentially an issue with TikTok
when it comes to a security,national security because we, I know,

(01:15:51):
know that members of ourmilitary, members of the government,
you know, people that work forthe federal government, they cannot
have TikTok on their phonesbecause of that attachment between
ByteDance, tick tock and theCommunist party of China.
So.
So I recognize that there is apotential security risk.
What I wish they do is I wishthat Congress would just come out

(01:16:13):
and tell, you know, they'vemade a law.
They've.
They've banned it as, as a, asa law.
So just tell us what it was.
Just, just inform us andbecause it's not giving anything
away that China doesn'tpotentially know.
Yeah, they know where they're.
They know where they'recrossing the line.
Just tell us.
That's.
That's my biggest issue.
Yeah.
With that whole thing.

(01:16:33):
But anyway.
All right, we digressed enough.
I, I can, I can smell dinner cooking.
I gotta go get something toeat too.
So I'll just do this.
Make sure.
Check out co coastal comiccon.com coastal comic con is going
to be a Wilmington, NorthCarolina at the Wilmington Convention
Center March 1st and 2nd.
Again, coastalcomicon.com fortickets and more information.

(01:16:54):
You'll be Sam.
Sam Witwer is going to be there.
Matthew Wood, Cal Dodd,Matthew Watterson, Caitlin Robot,
Robrock and Ross Marquan.
A fantastic lineup ofcelebrities to be there.
I am very excited.
I am really thankful to you,Brock, for dragging us along.
I know it's been kicking andscreaming sometimes, but you.

(01:17:15):
You seem to absorb the painpretty well.
Anything else you want to saybefore we get out of here?
No, I tell you What?
I'll.
I'll make an interesting offer.
If any of the viewers of thispodcast come to the event and they
find me and introducethemselves and tell me that they

(01:17:36):
saw this podcast, I will givethem a T shirt for the event.
A free T shirt from the event.
It's very cool.
How.
How will you know it's me?
I will probably be the onlyone running around in a hockey jersey,
so you'll see me in a CarolinaHurricanes hockey jersey because
I'm giving up a weekend.
They have a.
They have a Saturday and aSunday game at home in Raleigh that

(01:17:57):
weekend.
They're playing the Oilers andthe Flames, and I really want to
go, but I can't go, obviously, Saturday.
So I'll be.
I'll be probably listening tothe game in my ear during the day.
But if anybody sees me andthey come up and say, I saw you on
the All About Nothing podcast,you don't put a plant out there.
Let it.
Let it be, and we'll let ithappen organically.

(01:18:18):
It'll happen organically.
And then I'll give every.
I'll give that person a free Tshirt to the event from the event.
Okay.
All right.
That doesn't mean that I can'treplay this clip over and over.
You can.
You.
You can replay it.
Yeah, look, I'm not getting afree T shirt, but it's at the.
It's at the end of the podcast.
So they got to watch throughthe whole thing, correct?
They got to watch the whole thing.
Oh, all right.

(01:18:38):
Yeah, go ahead.
Go.
No, I was gonna wrap it up.
You go ahead.
No, no, I just say, like, you.
You and Zach were mentioningearlier that you have all these interviews
and all this other stuff.
I want to get that.
I want you to give that to meso I can put it on our YouTube page
so we can get you more views.
I can do that.
Yes, please do.
Please do.
Please do.
It's.
It's.
It's all audio, but.
But I'll.
I'll put it on a background,so I'll give you video of that.
So we do.

(01:18:58):
We transferred all that stuff.
I can give you.
I can give you segments aswell to that you can put on the Instagram
and the Facebook and stuff that.
You know, just little.
Little clips.
Perfect.
Thank you very much.
Donald Brock Jr.
Of the.
The coordinator of the SodaCity Comic Con, Coastal Comic Con,
and Boardwalk Comic Con.
You can check out all of their.
Their websites for information.
But the big one coming upagain, Coastal Comic Con, March 1st

(01:19:20):
and 2nd at Neumann WilmingtonConvention center in Wilmington,
NC.
Please go get tickets becausethis is gonna be a phenomenal event.
We want to see a big crowd,come out and have a really good time.
So again, thank you very muchDonald Brock for being on the show
that is going to do it forepisode number 239.
Thank you very much for listening.
Links to past episodes,podcast platforms, merchandise, social

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media are all available at ourwebsite theallaboutnothing.com if
you think about our financialmodel giving away free content, my
mouth is starting to slip.
If you think our financialmodel of giving away free content
and entertainment is silly andyou're in the giving mood, why not
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Members get early access tothis episode as well as exclusive
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Linksavailable@theallaboutnothing.com thank
you again Donald Brock forbeing on.
Thank you very much everybodyfor listening.
You all stay safe, be kind andhave a great week week and keep your
hands to yourself.
All right Barrett thanks buddy.
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