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(00:03):
Are you feeling stuck in yourcurrent clinical environment?
Do you want to make a change inyour nursing career but not sure
what to do next?
Exhausted, burnt out, and maybeeven ready for different
leadership?
I'm Bonnie Meadows, a BoardCenter 5 Clinical Nurse
Specialist, Influential Leader,Career Coach, and Well Being
Coach.
(00:24):
Being in the nursing andhealthcare profession since
2004, I have felt stuck andunsure about what was next for
me.
I wanted to be fulfilled in mypurpose, to have a voice at the
table, and to be a resource forothers.
I kept telling myself I wantedmore, but didn't have the
direction I needed.
(00:44):
Until I found Clarity and CareerGrowth Strategies for
Experienced Nurses like Me.
In this podcast, you will findsimple tactical steps that allow
you to gain the clarity you needsolutions for how to grow even
without supportive leadershipand guidelines for setting
boundaries at work so that youcan grow purposefully in your
(01:06):
career as a nurse with agraduate degree who makes a huge
impact in the profession.
So get ready to trade yourscrubs for yoga pants, pop in
those earbuds and let's chat.
Hello, and welcome back.
So excited to be back again.
To talk about a fresh topic ontoday.
(01:27):
I have a, um, pretty interestingtake as we are going into the
month of February.
And February not only is themonth of love, but it is also
black history month.
And I'm going to use Dr.
Martin Luther king Jr.
And Malcolm X as my two examplesin talking about leadership.
(01:51):
And so this concept came to me about sometime last year.
And.
I am.
Always on Twitter.
I'm usually just scrolling everyonce in a while.
I might say a little something,but there are a few people that
I follow.
Lots of people that I follow.
Some are nurses.
(02:13):
On Twitter.
And I typically follow a lot ofblack nurses on Twitter, or
maybe an maybe not a lot.
I mean, they just show up on myfeet.
And then if they have somethinginteresting that they're saying,
then I pretty much, I try tofollow them.
I look at their timeline and seewhat they've been talking about.
(02:33):
And if it's somewhat in thepositive arena, then I click and
follow them.
I will say one thing that wetend to deal with.
As black nurses.
And I know everyone that'slistening to this podcast is not
black.
So I am pretty much, the wholepodcast is not going to be about
that, but I do give you a peekinside our world of the way many
(02:58):
of us view it.
And so there are some of us asblack women or black nurses.
I'm going to say thatExperienced black nurses.
So we, um, I am still in thatrealm of how do you grow
professionally as an experiencednurse?
And a lot of that is leadership.
Many of you who are listening tothis podcast, you want to grow,
(03:19):
you are ambitious.
You want to do other thingsbesides work at the bedside.
You want to expand your reach.
And a lot of it has to do withyou want to grow in leadership.
John Maxwell gives me just atsuch a comforting definition of
leadership.
(03:39):
Because I have been inleadership since high school.
Captain of the cheerleadingsquad.
I reached up to Colonel, whichis like the highest rank in our
junior ROTC.
They don't give that out toeverybody.
And then held several leadershiproles when I was in college.
(04:00):
And then it just continues tospilled over.
Like when, when I was in highschool, you had to be invited to
go to leadership school.
And that's where I learned a lotof my training was in my junior
ROTC program.
Um, and it was air force, shoutout to air force.
Um, but I learned a lot in, inthat.
And back to John Maxwell, hegives the, give this definition
(04:24):
of leadership.
And he said that leadership isnot about a title.
But it's about your influence.
And if we think about Dr.
Martin Luther king, Jr.
And we think about.
Malcolm X.
Yes, they were leaders.
Dr.
Martin Luther king Jr.
He was a pastor.
And Malcolm X.
(04:44):
He was a leader in his.
Own right.
And, And the Islamic faith.
And.
And y'all.
If I get that wrong, pleaseforgive me.
Please forgive me.
Um, I am not going to be, I amgoing to be in general terms
here.
I am not going to be factualtoday.
So this is all opinion.
This is all just my thoughts.
Just to kind of get you thinkingabout.
(05:07):
Let's stay focused.
We are, I am here to get youthinking about what does
influence look like for you?
That is what this podcast isabout.
And so if we think about how Dr.
Martin Luther king Jr led.
His way of leading withinfluence was through love and
(05:28):
kindness.
They both had the same mission.
Martin Malcolm, same mission.
Generally.
They wanted.
Black people to be treatedequal.
Martin was probably a little bitbroader.
However, once Malcolm came backfrom Mecca, his definition
probably became a little bitbroader because he was exposed.
(05:52):
Two different ways of thinkingand a different understanding.
So just let that settle theirexposure.
Can give you a whole lot.
Sometimes it's not just aboutwhat credentials you have, but
it is what exposures.
That you've had in your career.
That you can put in your backpocket.
(06:13):
That will help you to grow.
And make an impact.
And so Martins method was byloving kindness.
You know, do unto others as youwould have them to do unto you?
This, that and the other.
Malcolm's method was by anymeans necessary.
Hands down.
They both had a heart for thepeople.
(06:33):
They both wanted justice forthose who were wronged.
And they both had a greatfollowing.
And we, as nurses who areambitious, who want to grow our
careers, we have a heart for ourpatients.
If you're listening to thispodcast, you more than likely
have a love for healthcare.
And you want to see it grow andyou want to see it flourish.
And you want.
(06:54):
To reduce the injustices thatare happening to our patients.
And you want to figure out waysto, to fix it.
And so I wanted to do a shortexploration on their influence
and the way they went about it.
So one thing they had in commonwas that they were both great
speakers.
I'm not saying that that's whatyou have to do, but let's just
(07:15):
state the obvious they weregreat speakers.
And I'm not saying that you haveto go out and start creating all
of these speeches and speakingto the masses and doing this,
that, and the other.
But you need to have anunderstanding of what, what is
it that I stand for?
And what can I speak on and howcan I hone?
(07:38):
That area of impact andinfluence.
What am I passionate about?
What more can I learn about it?
So that I can speak to it.
When someone needs an causepeople do need an opinion on
things.
It does need to be.
Factual.
Your opinion, like you areputting the pieces together
(08:00):
using your scientific method of,of these facts, say this, then
this is cause and effect ofthis.
This should happen.
Hypothesis, this, that, and theother.
And then pulling together thosethings to say, Here's what I
believe we need in healthcare inorder to.
Improve the care for ourpatients.
They both had a message placedin their hearts and others
(08:24):
resonated with that message.
So don't have a message topeople don't resonate with.
Like I said, Martins messageswas rooted in loving others and
treating them with kindnessregardless of how they treat
you.
Malcolm's message.
Like I said, it was by any meansnecessary.
It was.
On the front part of his, hiscareer, it was more so.
(08:45):
A put down of another area and Ilift up over another and I'm not
condoning that.
But I will tell you what I see.
On Twitter.
And sometimes a lot of timesit's with black nurses and
sometimes it's white nurses, orsometimes it's limited
everybody.
But we do this thing where we'reputting down another, just to
(09:05):
elevate another and it shouldn'thave to be that way.
You can elevate your own group,your own value.
Some go at it like hardcore,like they're going for your
neck.
When they come for you.
And then there are others whowill kind of weave it into
telling you you're wrong.
Others will flat out, tell youyou're wrong.
(09:26):
And then they'll tell you why.
So they'll beat you down to it.
And then others will just kindof lovingly say, well, you're
wrong.
I do, you know, and here's why.
I am a Martin.
Type of person.
I will tell you that you'rewrong, but I will do it in a
lovingly way.
And then.
If I don't feel like a you'regoing to receive the fact that
(09:46):
I'm telling you you're wrong,then I'm going to ask you enough
questions for you to think aboutwhether you are wrong or whether
you're right.
When I'm having a discussionwith someone who thinks totally
different from wet.
I think one, I am a sticklerabout standing on the facts and
to.
I'm not here to change yourmind.
(10:07):
my goal is to.
Get you to a point to whereyou're understanding where I'm
coming from, and then you canmake a decision as to whether
you want to change your mind ornot.
And so.
The point from this one is whatis your message?
What do you want to get out tothe world?
Where do you want to make thatimpact?
And then what is your stance?
(10:28):
On nursing and in healthcare.
What are those things that youbelieve.
Should be focused on in nursingand in health care.
That helps you to.
To solidify your value.
It helps your already valuablewith the knowledge that you
have.
It just takes a moment to sitand reflect.
(10:48):
People don't know who they arebecause they don't sit down and
reflect.
We fly off the handle and we dojust whatever, because we're not
sitting down to reflect.
But you end up getting yourselfin trouble along the way.
If you don't stop and think.
Number two.
They believed in getting in thefight.
(11:08):
But in different ways.
Martin's message was don't fightback with your fist and weapons.
But fight back with action andwith love talk, the talk.
And love them along the way.
Montgomery busboy caught.
Talk the talk, walk the wall.
Cause they weren't necessarilylike in a position to talk.
But they was walking the walk.
(11:30):
And that money did to walk him.
Of the loss of billions ofdollars from not riding on a
bus.
Take action.
In love.
Fight back with your dollar.
Malcolm's message was more sofive for what's right for Lou
yours.
And if they come for you, beprepared to fight back.
By any means necessary.
Let me tell you.
(11:51):
Both methods are effective.
And you actually need bothmethods in the fight.
Because I am a Martin type ofleader.
I actually do need a Malcolm onmy team.
It's like Steph Curry andDraymond green.
He needs to be the antagonist.
So Steph Curry can be who he is.
Because somebody got the ruffle,the feathers and not think.
(12:13):
That the team is soft.
Same way in healthcare.
If you've got somebody who islike a negative Nancy or a no,
but they do great work.
Listen to them.
Because they've got an opinionabout something.
And if they're really trying todo right about the patient,
it's, it's very appropriate foryou to listen.
And understand where they'recoming from and then y'all team
(12:35):
together.
To work on improving.
Your workplace.
Your hospital.
Your state work together.
That's what ended up happeningin the long run.
Malcolm and Martin startedworking together cause they're
like, we're better together thanapart.
That was my people.
I'm just like, go for it.
(12:55):
You push me hard enough.
And I'll come for you, butthat's not my initial, emo.
It's not.
And so.
You have to think about whichone do you want to be portrayed
as.
And be okay with that.
Do you want to be, the one whois able to win others over with
(13:15):
words?
Or do you want to win othersover by force?
By any means necessary.
Sometimes it takes by any meansnecessary.
I'm just going to tell you.
I probably use that maybe onceor twice in my life.
That's not my initial ammo, butif it's yours great.
Number three, last one.
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They both had influenced.
And like I said, at the top,Influence is leadership.
Leadership is influence.
It is not about your title.
There are plenty of people.
Who have a title?
And they don't have influence.
They don't have respect.
I'd rather have influence allday long.
(13:57):
Then for you to give me a title.
Actually, let me back that up.
I would rather have influenceand walk in the freedom.
To do.
What.
I've been called to do.
In an unconventional way.
Then to have a title.
But you micromanaged me.
(14:18):
At the CA whatever level.
I'm good on that.
I'm not knocking those titles.
I think those titles are great.
And you can have influence andbe in those titles at the same
time.
And they do give you someinfluence.
I do.
But just remember that justbecause you have the title.
Like that influence might bethere initially.
(14:40):
But if you're not reallyleading, then you lose it.
You lose the influence that youhave.
So it is better to build upyour, your leadership skills.
So that you can have influence.
Then for you to get a title andjust be like, oh, well y'all
should listen to me just becauseI am who I am.
What have you done?
(15:02):
And not even physically, likehow are you motivating the
people?
How are you supporting thepeople?
That's just like, and I've seenthis several times before.
Nurses will get a master'sdegree in nursing.
And then we'll apply for thesejobs that they've not.
The date.
They qualify for on paper.
(15:22):
But when they were at thebedside, they weren't doing
anything.
And I believe that even if youhave lots of kids there's always
something that you can beinvolved in that doesn't take
time outside of work.
If that is your struggle.
But you need to be building yourresume along the way.
So that when it is time for youto move forward, You've built
(15:45):
resources and influence in otherareas.
I will say.
I believe Martin's.
Message went further because hewas able to influence at a very
high level.
And politics and in government,He seemed.
And someone had said to me,before.
You are very accepting.
Uh, of, of people.
(16:06):
And I said, I am very acceptingof everyone because I believe
everyone is a human being.
I believe everyone.
Has a chance at growing atdoing, at being.
And everyone is valuable as ahuman being.
But just because you're.
X acceptable of everyone.
It doesn't mean you'reagreeable.
(16:27):
And I believe that that's thestance that Martin took.
He was accepting of everyonebecause he felt like every human
being.
It was valuable.
But it doesn't mean you have tobe agreeable and people mistake
acceptableness withagreeableness, two different
things.
But you can have influence.
In not being agreeable.
(16:48):
And that's what I'm.
Saying.
Take your stance.
Lead how you're going to lead,whether it'd be the Malcolm way
or the Martin way.
Let your goal be about themission, not the title.
So that you can have influence.
influence.
to be able to make impact.
People are less guarded when youlead with love.
So if you have a hard timeleading the Martin way and
(17:11):
you're, you're leading.
The Malcolm way.
Then partner.
With someone who is leading theMartin way.
Cause they need you too.
Work together.
You can be strong in yourstance.
Without strong arming someoneelse.
To convince them that your wayis right.
However, when the strong arm isneeded, you need to raise up.
raise up.
cause we need you.
(17:31):
I hope you.
enjoyed this podcast on today.
I really want you to considerand think about, are you a
Martin leader or are you aMalcolm leader and what are you
doing?
What is, what is your stance innursing and in healthcare?
What are those things that youtruly have a heart for believe
in?
Those are the things that makeup your personal, your
(17:52):
professional brand.
You can't be about everything.
So, what is that thing thatyou're going to hone in on?
And say, these are the fewthings that I choose.
To focus on as I build mycareer.
Because this is what I'velearned that I do.
I love about healthcare andnursing and where I feel like I
(18:14):
have the most passion aroundhim.
I am.
If you figure that out.
Let me know.
Thanks.
See you next time.
I hope you enjoyed today'sepisode.
If so, would you take 30 secondsand share it with another nurse
who may be unsure of where to gonext in their career, or maybe
(18:34):
need some career clarity?
Also, please leave a quickreview for the show on Apple
podcast.
It brings me so much joy and somuch encouragement to know this
podcast is helping you.
Now go get the career you wantand not the one you settle for.
And I'll meet you back here nextThursday for another episode.
(18:55):
See you soon!
Are you feeling stuck in yourcurrent clinical environment?
Do you want to make a change inyour nursing career but not sure
what to do next?
Exhausted, burnt out, and maybeeven ready for different
leadership?
I'm Bonnie Meadows, a BoardCenter 5 Clinical Nurse
Specialist, Influential Leader,Career Coach, and Well Being
Coach.
(00:24):
Being in the nursing andhealthcare profession since
2004, I have felt stuck andunsure about what was next for
me.
I wanted to be fulfilled in mypurpose, to have a voice at the
table, and to be a resource forothers.
I kept telling myself I wantedmore, but didn't have the
direction I needed.
(00:44):
Until I found Clarity and CareerGrowth Strategies for
Experienced Nurses like Me.
In this podcast, you will findsimple tactical steps that allow
you to gain the clarity you needsolutions for how to grow even
without supportive leadershipand guidelines for setting
boundaries at work so that youcan grow purposefully in your
(01:06):
career as a nurse with agraduate degree who makes a huge
impact in the profession.
So get ready to trade yourscrubs for yoga pants, pop in
those earbuds and let's chat.
Hello, and welcome back.
So excited to be back again.
To talk about a fresh topic ontoday.
(01:27):
I have a, um, pretty interestingtake as we are going into the
month of February.
And February not only is themonth of love, but it is also
black history month.
And I'm going to use Dr.
Martin Luther king Jr.
And Malcolm X as my two examplesin talking about leadership.
(01:51):
And so this concept came to me about sometime last year.
And.
I am.
Always on Twitter.
I'm usually just scrolling everyonce in a while.
I might say a little something,but there are a few people that
I follow.
Lots of people that I follow.
Some are nurses.
(02:13):
On Twitter.
And I typically follow a lot ofblack nurses on Twitter, or
maybe an maybe not a lot.
I mean, they just show up on myfeet.
And then if they have somethinginteresting that they're saying,
then I pretty much, I try tofollow them.
I look at their timeline and seewhat they've been talking about.
(02:33):
And if it's somewhat in thepositive arena, then I click and
follow them.
I will say one thing that wetend to deal with.
As black nurses.
And I know everyone that'slistening to this podcast is not
black.
So I am pretty much, the wholepodcast is not going to be about
that, but I do give you a peekinside our world of the way many
(02:58):
of us view it.
And so there are some of us asblack women or black nurses.
I'm going to say thatExperienced black nurses.
So we, um, I am still in thatrealm of how do you grow
professionally as an experiencednurse?
And a lot of that is leadership.
Many of you who are listening tothis podcast, you want to grow,
(03:19):
you are ambitious.
You want to do other thingsbesides work at the bedside.
You want to expand your reach.
And a lot of it has to do withyou want to grow in leadership.
John Maxwell gives me just atsuch a comforting definition of
leadership.
(03:39):
Because I have been inleadership since high school.
Captain of the cheerleadingsquad.
I reached up to Colonel, whichis like the highest rank in our
junior ROTC.
They don't give that out toeverybody.
And then held several leadershiproles when I was in college.
(04:00):
And then it just continues tospilled over.
Like when, when I was in highschool, you had to be invited to
go to leadership school.
And that's where I learned a lotof my training was in my junior
ROTC program.
Um, and it was air force, shoutout to air force.
Um, but I learned a lot in, inthat.
And back to John Maxwell, hegives the, give this definition
(04:24):
of leadership.
And he said that leadership isnot about a title.
But it's about your influence.
And if we think about Dr.
Martin Luther king, Jr.
And we think about.
Malcolm X.
Yes, they were leaders.
Dr.
Martin Luther king Jr.
He was a pastor.
And Malcolm X.
(04:44):
He was a leader in his.
Own right.
And, And the Islamic faith.
And.
And y'all.
If I get that wrong, pleaseforgive me.
Please forgive me.
Um, I am not going to be, I amgoing to be in general terms
here.
I am not going to be factualtoday.
So this is all opinion.
This is all just my thoughts.
Just to kind of get you thinkingabout.
(05:07):
Let's stay focused.
We are, I am here to get youthinking about what does
influence look like for you?
That is what this podcast isabout.
And so if we think about how Dr.
Martin Luther king Jr led.
His way of leading withinfluence was through love and
(05:28):
kindness.
They both had the same mission.
Martin Malcolm, same mission.
Generally.
They wanted.
Black people to be treatedequal.
Martin was probably a little bitbroader.
However, once Malcolm came backfrom Mecca, his definition
probably became a little bitbroader because he was exposed.
(05:52):
Two different ways of thinkingand a different understanding.
So just let that settle theirexposure.
Can give you a whole lot.
Sometimes it's not just aboutwhat credentials you have, but
it is what exposures.
That you've had in your career.
That you can put in your backpocket.
(06:13):
That will help you to grow.
And make an impact.
And so Martins method was byloving kindness.
You know, do unto others as youwould have them to do unto you?
This, that and the other.
Malcolm's method was by anymeans necessary.
Hands down.
They both had a heart for thepeople.
(06:33):
They both wanted justice forthose who were wronged.
And they both had a greatfollowing.
And we, as nurses who areambitious, who want to grow our
careers, we have a heart for ourpatients.
If you're listening to thispodcast, you more than likely
have a love for healthcare.
And you want to see it grow andyou want to see it flourish.
And you want.
(06:54):
To reduce the injustices thatare happening to our patients.
And you want to figure out waysto, to fix it.
And so I wanted to do a shortexploration on their influence
and the way they went about it.
So one thing they had in commonwas that they were both great
speakers.
I'm not saying that that's whatyou have to do, but let's just
(07:15):
state the obvious they weregreat speakers.
And I'm not saying that you haveto go out and start creating all
of these speeches and speakingto the masses and doing this,
that, and the other.
But you need to have anunderstanding of what, what is
it that I stand for?
And what can I speak on and howcan I hone?
(07:38):
That area of impact andinfluence.
What am I passionate about?
What more can I learn about it?
So that I can speak to it.
When someone needs an causepeople do need an opinion on
things.
It does need to be.
Factual.
Your opinion, like you areputting the pieces together
(08:00):
using your scientific method of,of these facts, say this, then
this is cause and effect ofthis.
This should happen.
Hypothesis, this, that, and theother.
And then pulling together thosethings to say, Here's what I
believe we need in healthcare inorder to.
Improve the care for ourpatients.
They both had a message placedin their hearts and others
(08:24):
resonated with that message.
So don't have a message topeople don't resonate with.
Like I said, Martins messageswas rooted in loving others and
treating them with kindnessregardless of how they treat
you.
Malcolm's message.
Like I said, it was by any meansnecessary.
It was.
On the front part of his, hiscareer, it was more so.
(08:45):
A put down of another area and Ilift up over another and I'm not
condoning that.
But I will tell you what I see.
On Twitter.
And sometimes a lot of timesit's with black nurses and
sometimes it's white nurses, orsometimes it's limited
everybody.
But we do this thing where we'reputting down another, just to
(09:05):
elevate another and it shouldn'thave to be that way.
You can elevate your own group,your own value.
Some go at it like hardcore,like they're going for your
neck.
When they come for you.
And then there are others whowill kind of weave it into
telling you you're wrong.
Others will flat out, tell youyou're wrong.
(09:26):
And then they'll tell you why.
So they'll beat you down to it.
And then others will just kindof lovingly say, well, you're
wrong.
I do, you know, and here's why.
I am a Martin.
Type of person.
I will tell you that you'rewrong, but I will do it in a
lovingly way.
And then.
If I don't feel like a you'regoing to receive the fact that
(09:46):
I'm telling you you're wrong,then I'm going to ask you enough
questions for you to think aboutwhether you are wrong or whether
you're right.
When I'm having a discussionwith someone who thinks totally
different from wet.
I think one, I am a sticklerabout standing on the facts and
to.
I'm not here to change yourmind.
(10:07):
my goal is to.
Get you to a point to whereyou're understanding where I'm
coming from, and then you canmake a decision as to whether
you want to change your mind ornot.
And so.
The point from this one is whatis your message?
What do you want to get out tothe world?
Where do you want to make thatimpact?
And then what is your stance?
(10:28):
On nursing and in healthcare.
What are those things that youbelieve.
Should be focused on in nursingand in health care.
That helps you to.
To solidify your value.
It helps your already valuablewith the knowledge that you
have.
It just takes a moment to sitand reflect.
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People don't know who they arebecause they don't sit down and
reflect.
We fly off the handle and we dojust whatever, because we're not
sitting down to reflect.
But you end up getting yourselfin trouble along the way.
If you don't stop and think.
Number two.
They believed in getting in thefight.
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But in different ways.
Martin's message was don't fightback with your fist and weapons.
But fight back with action andwith love talk, the talk.
And love them along the way.
Montgomery busboy caught.
Talk the talk, walk the wall.
Cause they weren't necessarilylike in a position to talk.
But they was walking the walk.
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And that money did to walk him.
Of the loss of billions ofdollars from not riding on a
bus.
Take action.
In love.
Fight back with your dollar.
Malcolm's message was more sofive for what's right for Lou
yours.
And if they come for you, beprepared to fight back.
By any means necessary.
Let me tell you.
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Both methods are effective.
And you actually need bothmethods in the fight.
Because I am a Martin type ofleader.
I actually do need a Malcolm onmy team.
It's like Steph Curry andDraymond green.
He needs to be the antagonist.
So Steph Curry can be who he is.
Because somebody got the ruffle,the feathers and not think.
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That the team is soft.
Same way in healthcare.
If you've got somebody who islike a negative Nancy or a no,
but they do great work.
Listen to them.
Because they've got an opinionabout something.
And if they're really trying todo right about the patient,
it's, it's very appropriate foryou to listen.
And understand where they'recoming from and then y'all team
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together.
To work on improving.
Your workplace.
Your hospital.
Your state work together.
That's what ended up happeningin the long run.
Malcolm and Martin startedworking together cause they're
like, we're better together thanapart.
That was my people.
I'm just like, go for it.
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You push me hard enough.
And I'll come for you, butthat's not my initial, emo.
It's not.
And so.
You have to think about whichone do you want to be portrayed
as.
And be okay with that.
Do you want to be, the one whois able to win others over with
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words?
Or do you want to win othersover by force?
By any means necessary.
Sometimes it takes by any meansnecessary.
I'm just going to tell you.
I probably use that maybe onceor twice in my life.
That's not my initial ammo, butif it's yours great.
Number three, last one.
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They both had influenced.
And like I said, at the top,Influence is leadership.
Leadership is influence.
It is not about your title.
There are plenty of people.
Who have a title?
And they don't have influence.
They don't have respect.
I'd rather have influence allday long.
(13:57):
Then for you to give me a title.
Actually, let me back that up.
I would rather have influenceand walk in the freedom.
To do.
What.
I've been called to do.
In an unconventional way.
Then to have a title.
But you micromanaged me.
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At the CA whatever level.
I'm good on that.
I'm not knocking those titles.
I think those titles are great.
And you can have influence andbe in those titles at the same
time.
And they do give you someinfluence.
I do.
But just remember that justbecause you have the title.
Like that influence might bethere initially.
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But if you're not reallyleading, then you lose it.
You lose the influence that youhave.
So it is better to build upyour, your leadership skills.
So that you can have influence.
Then for you to get a title andjust be like, oh, well y'all
should listen to me just becauseI am who I am.
What have you done?
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And not even physically, likehow are you motivating the
people?
How are you supporting thepeople?
That's just like, and I've seenthis several times before.
Nurses will get a master'sdegree in nursing.
And then we'll apply for thesejobs that they've not.
The date.
They qualify for on paper.
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But when they were at thebedside, they weren't doing
anything.
And I believe that even if youhave lots of kids there's always
something that you can beinvolved in that doesn't take
time outside of work.
If that is your struggle.
But you need to be building yourresume along the way.
So that when it is time for youto move forward, You've built
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resources and influence in otherareas.
I will say.
I believe Martin's.
Message went further because hewas able to influence at a very
high level.
And politics and in government,He seemed.
And someone had said to me,before.
You are very accepting.
Uh, of, of people.
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And I said, I am very acceptingof everyone because I believe
everyone is a human being.
I believe everyone.
Has a chance at growing atdoing, at being.
And everyone is valuable as ahuman being.
But just because you're.
X acceptable of everyone.
It doesn't mean you'reagreeable.
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And I believe that that's thestance that Martin took.
He was accepting of everyonebecause he felt like every human
being.
It was valuable.
But it doesn't mean you have tobe agreeable and people mistake
acceptableness withagreeableness, two different
things.
But you can have influence.
In not being agreeable.
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And that's what I'm.
Saying.
Take your stance.
Lead how you're going to lead,whether it'd be the Malcolm way
or the Martin way.
Let your goal be about themission, not the title.
So that you can have influence.
influence.
to be able to make impact.
People are less guarded when youlead with love.
So if you have a hard timeleading the Martin way and
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you're, you're leading.
The Malcolm way.
Then partner.
With someone who is leading theMartin way.
Cause they need you too.
Work together.
You can be strong in yourstance.
Without strong arming someoneelse.
To convince them that your wayis right.
However, when the strong arm isneeded, you need to raise up.
raise up.
cause we need you.
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I hope you.
enjoyed this podcast on today.
I really want you to considerand think about, are you a
Martin leader or are you aMalcolm leader and what are you
doing?
What is, what is your stance innursing and in healthcare?
What are those things that youtruly have a heart for believe
in?
Those are the things that makeup your personal, your
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professional brand.
You can't be about everything.
So, what is that thing thatyou're going to hone in on?
And say, these are the fewthings that I choose.
To focus on as I build mycareer.
Because this is what I'velearned that I do.
I love about healthcare andnursing and where I feel like I
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have the most passion aroundhim.
I am.
If you figure that out.
Let me know.
Thanks.
See you next time.
I hope you enjoyed today'sepisode.
If so, would you take 30 secondsand share it with another nurse
who may be unsure of where to gonext in their career, or maybe
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need some career clarity?
Also, please leave a quickreview for the show on Apple
podcast.
It brings me so much joy and somuch encouragement to know this
podcast is helping you.
Now go get the career you wantand not the one you settle for.
And I'll meet you back here nextThursday for another episode.
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See you soon!
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