Family, Freedom, and a Thriving Business: It's All Possible Featuring Brittney Hall

What if building a successful business didn't require sacrificing your family, freedom, or fulfillment? Brittany Hall has proven it's possible.

Brittany isn't just talking about balance she's living it. As co-founder and CEO of The Revenue Agency, she and her husband Ryan have created a thriving company while maintaining their priorities. Their secret? Integration rather than separation. 

The journey hasn't been without challenges. Brittany candidly shares how entrepreneurship "brings up everything about you that you could potentially have to work on," from imposter syndrome to comparison traps. Her advice when confidence wavers? Remember your past wins. "Confidence comes from all the times that you've won before. It's like a memory of success."

Rather than subscribing to hustle culture's demands, Brittany has intentionally designed her life around what matters most. Her mornings belong to family and self-care—no emails until 9 or 10 AM. She targets just five focused, productive work hours daily, creating boundaries that serve both her clients and her wellbeing. "I think you can actually do it in a way where you can have freedom and ease and relationships with the people in your life that matter most and make a lot of money."

Perhaps most refreshingly, Brittany speaks with remarkable honesty about maintaining intimacy in marriage while building a business together. She emphasizes communication, connection, and remembering that "creative energy is actually the same as sexual energy"—a reminder to reserve something for your relationship amid entrepreneurial demands.

Throughout our conversation, Brittany returns to authenticity as her guiding light. Whether parenting, leading her company, or navigating challenging business decisions, she remains true to herself. She's walked away from substantial income when the work environment didn't align with her values, demonstrating the courage required to build a life and business on your own terms.

Ready to rise into a version of success that honors both your ambition and your soul? This episode offers the blueprint you've been searching for. Listen, share with a friend who needs this message, and join the conversation by tagging @AriseWithAnita & @thebrittneyhall on Instagram with your biggest takeaway.

To Connect with or work with Brittney: 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebrittneyhall/

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Website: https://www.therevenueagency.com/

Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/47clDMpjiZRByVBuUTboYL?si=84d2eacf23a24e90 

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I’ll see you in the next episode. And until then… stay rising.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Rise With Anita podcast, the space
where soul meets strategy anddreams are no longer optional.
I'm your host, anitaKurdayan-Gurgis, a
transformational mindset coachand founder of the Her Method.
This show is for the woman whoknows she's meant for more, who
feels the call to rise higherbut sometimes feels trapped by
her old stories, patterns orcircumstances.

(00:22):
Here we don't just talk aboutgrowth, we embody it.
We activate the woman inside ofyou who leads, who creates, who
claims her next level.
You'll hear a mix of soulepisodes from me and interviews
with soul-driven leaders, thebest in their fields, who live
what they teach and rise byexample.
Each conversation is a catalystfor your next breakthrough.
You're not broken.

(00:43):
You're breaking through.
Let's go ahead and risetogether.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Welcome back to the Rise With Anina podcast episode.
On today's episode of thepodcast, I'm welcoming someone
who truly embodies what it lookslike to build a business with
both strategy and soul BrittanyHall.
Brittany isn't just theco-founder and CEO of the
revenue agency.
She's also one of a husband andwife team that has built

(01:12):
something really special.
Together with her husband, ryan, brittany has proven that you
can scale a business and growyour impact without sacrificing
what matters most your family,your freedom and your
fulfillment.
What I love about Brittany ishow she blends her sharp
business instincts with so muchheart.
She's a creative visionary, amarketing strategist and a
leader who has spent yearshelping brands clarify their

(01:34):
message, elevate their presenceand truly connect with people
they're meant to serve.
But beyond the titles and thestrategies, she's a woman who
deeply values integrity,alignment and building a life
that actually feels good fromthe inside out.
Whether she's coaching clients,co-hosting the Revenue Agency
podcast with Ryan, or raisingher family while running a
company, she's proof thatsuccess doesn't have to come at

(01:57):
the cost of your soul.
So today's conversation is morethan just business strategy.
It's about vision, values andwhat it means to rise into the
version of yourself who can holdboth ambition in alignment.
I cannot wait for you to meetthe radiant, grounded and
brilliant Brittany Hall.
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Thank you, wow, you know, I was like wow, who's she
talking about?
And then I'm like I haveactually accomplished a lot.
I'm like I did that.
Yeah, I'm like that's cool, canyou send that?
Thanks, new England.
Thank you for having me.

(02:35):
That seriously almost broughttears to my eyes.
I was like chill, girl chill.
But thank you, I'm so glad tobe here.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'm so glad to be here, I'm so glad to have you.
I mean, I feel like, withpodcast introductions is a
minute for me to like justshowcase how amazing you are to
you, because I feel like weoften forget who we are.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, you know, I think too, when you're building
a business which I do think,besides raising kids, is one of
the hardest things you can do,and I've been doing them
simultaneously but I think thatwe're really hard on ourselves
as entrepreneurs, and so it'sreally cool to hear somebody
kind of read off these thingsabout you and you can go yeah
like that's what I was.

(03:16):
Like.
I'm just sad because, you know,sometimes we need to remind
ourselves of who we are and whatwe've accomplished know
absolutely so.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Before we dive in, I always start off, and I think we
had this fun little tidbit whenyou did a post a couple of
weeks ago and it was what peoplestart before we get into, like,
what we do, what brings you joy, what is bringing you joy?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
you know this.
It's so funny because I'm notusually someone who leads about
like my kids Like it's just I'mlike obsessed with them.
But in conversation I usuallytalk about my titles before I
talk about my family.
You know, it's just part ofkind of like that personality, I
guess.
But my kids are bringing me aton of joy right now.
They're really fun ages.
They're almost 11.

(04:02):
My son will be 11 on Sunday andmy daughter's 13 and they're
super cool.
I'm because, you know, likewhen they're babies they're like
, they're cute and they're like,but they're they're.
They're a lot to take care ofand they're still a lot to take
care of and they get moreexpensive as they age.
But they're just involved insome really fun stuff and
they're really smart and funnyand I'm just like you guys are

(04:22):
really cool.
So my kids and my family likethat place that we're at right
now.
It's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Very cool.
I love that your answer wasabout family.
I feel like when I ask this,it's either some sort of like
travel answer, but a lot oftimes I get the family and I
think that's beautiful becauseit just shows you're integrating
.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yes, yeah.
My husband and I have workedreally hard for a while to
create a life that we areintegrated with our kids.
We can coach their sports, wecan be at everything, we can
volunteer at school, but we canalso build like a kick-ass
company.
So that was always our goal andyesterday I think it was like
at one o'clock I was like hey,my calendar for you want to go

(05:11):
swim me and like I can like hangout with my husband.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I'm like we are truly living like a fully integrated
life, so it's fun.
Yeah, I love that because, forme, I'm always just like, rather
than being in that place oflike hustle, hustle, hustle, I'm
learning to slow down and like,yeah, allow for the feminine to
kick in, which we can totallygo down that route as well.
But before we do, how to takeus to the beginning?
What shaped the woman andleader you are today?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I went through when I was young, like, say, like 13,
14, 15, like a, like a young,like adolescent girl, it was
very, very natural for me to bebold, to tell people what I
thought, to be just blatantlyhonest.
I probably didn't have a lot oftact, right, because I was
young, I hadn't learned that.
But then, in this latest season, I think it's been this
returning to who I trulyauthentically am, like the way
that I'm designed, because Iwent through these seasons as I

(06:12):
learned how to mentor people,build teams, build business,
getting into sales, where thepeople who I worked for or who
are leading me always wanted tokind of tell me who I should be.
And so in building thisbusiness, I feel like it's been
like a homecoming, in a kind oftell me who I should be.
And so in building thisbusiness, I feel like I've it's
been like a homecoming, in a wayof returning to who, like, I
authentically am.
So it's been this like crazyjourney, probably over 20 years,

(06:35):
of learning new things,unlearning things, forgiving
people, letting people go whoaren't serving me.
I mean that's like when I'mlike take me, take you to the
beginning.
I'm like girl, I don't think wehave long enough for that.
Like it has been a journey, soyeah, but I think that that

(06:56):
would be a good way to sum it up, like in the like most recent
times it's, there's had to be alot, like you said, like soul
work and forgiveness and graceand letting stuff go.
And yeah, it's been interesting.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I love that you brought that up because for me,
as I've been building thisbusiness, I have five months and
I realized a lot of people shyaway from entrepreneurship
because it brings up everythingabout you that you could
potentially have to work on.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Oh yes, I mean, it's like insecurity to the max,
imposter syndrome.
Why would somebody pay me?
Do I really know what I'm doing?
And then you see somebody popup on Instagram with a million
followers that's doing the samething as you and you're like who
am I?
You know it's, yeah, it'sdifficult, but then I think it's

(07:49):
like I said you have toremember who you are and what
you've accomplished.
I worked for a guy one time andhe was like you have like
confidence comes from all of thelike, all the times that you've
won before, like in the past.
It's like a memory of successand I was like that's brilliant.
And we forget that when we feellike we get told no, or stuff's

(08:11):
not building as fast as we want, or, you know, somebody lets us
down, we feel kind of it makesus insecure and doubt and fear
creeps in.
But we have to bring thatconfidence back and go no, no,
no, no, no.
I'm a winner.
And here's the memory of allthe times that I've won and I
think that it's that that getsyou through those seasons, you
know, because building abusiness is freaking hard.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Do you admit that?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
though oh yeah, anybody else that says otherwise
is lying.
Like most businesses failwithin the first year.
I mean, what's even thestatistic on podcasts People?
Usually they don't get pastnumber 10 because people quit.
They give up, and I really dothink that's.
The only way that you fail isby giving up, because when you
study people who have succeededand created a lot of success,

(08:57):
they've all experienced the samesetbacks, but they just didn't
give up.
They just didn't give up.
So I think it's really like adisservice for anybody in any
space to be like oh no, you justgot to like wake up at 5 am and
you'll be successful.
It's like uh-uh, no, that's notit.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Actually, I love that you went there.
So what does your ideal, likemorning routine, look like as a
mom, as a wife and anything thatyou carry?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, yeah, you know it's looked different throughout
.
You know throughout the years.
Right now, what it looks likeis I get up at 530, 545 in the
morning and I serve in themorning, I don't touch my bum, I
don't get into work.
I don't get into work untilprobably 9 or 10 am.

(09:47):
I don't start paying attentionto work, like it's my time and
my family's time.
Before that, like I got to getmyself right, get my house in
order, and so as a mom it lookslike waking up at 530 in the
morning.
My daughter is doing crosscountry where she has to be to
school at 645 in the morning forpractice.
I have three dogs that have tobe walked every day or else they
are annoying as all get out.

(10:08):
So like it serves me later towalk them in the morning and my
husband's like right there withme, like we're total partners in
life.
So, yeah, we get up, we walkour dog, then we get the kids up
and get them breakfast, we packlunches together, then we get
them off to school and then wehit the gym and and we do yoga
twice a week and then we lift atleast three days a week, do

(10:29):
lifting and cardio.
So we go to the gym together hedoes his thing, I do my thing
and then we come home and weattack the day from a business
perspective, but before thatit's family getting our mind
right and getting our body right.
Before that, it's familygetting our mind right and
getting our body right.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I love that Because it shows how you're actually
literally integrating.
You're not.
I hate that myth of when peoplesay it's a balance.
It's not a balance.
You just have to make the timeand integrate it into your life.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Otherwise, it's not going to work, yeah, and it's
boundaries and it'snon-negotiable.
And it's most of the time it'sboundaries with yourself of I'm
not going to check my email,it's 6 am, like I'm not doing
that because what that does alot of times is when you're
checking all that stuff beforeyou've really started your day
and like gotten your mind right,like I said, get your body

(11:22):
right and done the things thathave to be done, like if it's
family or whatnot.
You know everybody has differentresponsibilities but you almost
invite in this like anxiety,quirk anxiety, because it's like
I don't want to open up to anypotential issues or things that
I need to do for somebody untilI'm ready, and so it's having

(11:42):
those boundaries with yourselfand then what it does is it
creates boundaries within yourbusiness where people just know
she gets back to me around thistime every day and it's possible
and I've been in the seasonsit's I had to learn where I was
available to everybody all thetime and I had a boss that would
call me at 930 at night and Iwould be like I would answer and

(12:03):
I would talk to him for an hourand I wouldn't put my kids to
bed and Ryan would put them tobed instead of me, because I was
in a really unhealthyrelationship with this job.
So I think that when we startedour company, I was like I will
never do that again.
So I had to learn because I didit the wrong way first.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Beautiful.
I think that there's somethingI haven't done.
I haven't been that bad, butI've watched my mom be that bad
when she would have like herfirst hour of the morning be
phone call, making coffee,trying to get out the door, and
it'd be like the entire drivefrom home to school is literally

(12:44):
.
You on the phone with your boss.
You talk to him late, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, and as a kid, like you're like hello, and it's
not like it messed you up orwhatever, Right, you know, but
it's just it was probably anawareness that you had of like
you didn't love how that feltbecause your mom wasn't present
with you in the car, andprobably for her she's trying to
like get it done while she's inthe car and multitask, and I
think that as women, we've beentold that we can.

(13:11):
That's what we should be doing,right.
Like, oh yeah, you can haveyour kids and a high powered
career.
It's like it just creates a lotof sacrifice and it also
creates like a very big, likereactivity and I think,
energetically.
That's not like a great, Idon't want to live in that place
, like I've been there, I'vebeen there, but it's like this
reactive energy and then whathappens is you wake up and you

(13:33):
start your day in reaction.
It's very hard to get intocreativity if you started out
that way.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Beautiful, yeah.
So, as a wife, a mom and a CEO,how do you personally define
success beyond numbers?
Theses?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, you know it's funny because a lot of people
you know they want to makemillions or whatever that dollar
figure is.
And I want to make enough moneywhere I have ease in my life
and I can say yes to my kids andyes to experiences and travel
with them.
And you know that's really whatsuccess looks like for me.

(14:10):
I don't want to become a slaveto my business because it's
making a ton of money.
Where I'm now like me, all meand my husband talk about is
business right, like I don'twant to get into that.
So I think that if it reallycomes down to a schedule for me,
like if I can have my morningswith my kids and I can be the
one that takes them to schooland that I can be here when they

(14:33):
get home, but then that chunkin the middle of the day, that's
where I can serve my clients ata high level and get stuff done
and hit it hard and be greatfor those people for like those
four or five hours a day,because that's really like how I
want to work.
If I can do that and makeenough money to be able to also
have the lifestyle that I want,like that's success and I

(14:54):
actually believe it's possible.
I think that we've been sold,probably by some coach in the
industry or multiple coaches,you know, these like alpha male
types that are going to likeyell at their audiences, which I
can buy into that, because I'mkind of, I can have a lot of
masculine energy.

(15:14):
I just I think that's not,especially as a woman, and
especially if you have kids andyou're in that phase of your
life.
I don't think it's healthy andI don't think that you should
ever sacrifice the time withyour kids to make money.
I think that you can actuallydo it in a way where you can
have that freedom and ease andrelationships with the people in

(15:36):
your life that matter most andmake a lot of money.
I really truly believe that youcan design your life the way
you want it to.
So for me, that's what thatlooks like Work about five hours
a day, kick ass, be great, be agood mom and connect with my
husband.
You know so that when thesekids are out of the house, I'm
not like who the hell are you?
You know like that's the goal.
Right Is to like be in love andlike have them be your best

(15:59):
friend.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Like that's my goal anyway.
No, absolutely.
I think.
One thing I've noticed is a lotof people 10, especially after
they have children not that Ihave kids, so take this with a
grain of salt but what I'veobserved is a lot of people
won't put focus onto theirrelationship and then, by the
time that their kids are out ofthe house or moving into their
own adulthoods, yeah, they're atthis point where it's kind of
like bedmates rather than anactual relationship, totally.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, yeah, and that's I mean Ryan and I have
always been.
I mean, we've always we startedout dating.
We didn't start out as friends,we started out as like a
romantic relationship, but hereally is my very best friend,
and that's the thing too is likewhen you're building a business
with somebody, or even ifsomeone is an entrepreneur and
you're married and you're not inbusiness with your spouse or

(16:52):
partner or whatever, it'simportant that that person
supports you, because there aretimes when you're like am I
going crazy, you know?
Or like I mean too, as a womanryan and I were having this
conversation the other day, andthis is probably going so left
field, but it's like, as a woman, we have these hormone cycles
right and it affects our energyand our productivity and our

(17:14):
creativity.
And there was like last week, Iwas just like, oh my god, I'm
just so like, I'm tired, I'm notinspired, I don't feel like
doing anything, and men, theyoperate on a 24-hour clock.
So so he's like but we need tofind clients, we need to be
doing this, and I'm like I'mjust not like feeling it and
then, like, things switch thisweekend.
I'm like I'm back, you know,and it's like he has to be able

(17:35):
to like handle that right.
Where it's not one that take isa lot of communication, A lot
of communication, and I am a bigcommunicator and he's had to
learn and I have to accept theway that he processes and he's a
little slower to things than Iam.
But yeah, that's another thing.
It's a lot of work but it's funwork.

(17:56):
You know when you're with theright person.
It's like yeah, yeah, it'sinteresting, though.
I told him the other day I go,I wouldn't want to do it again,
like I mean I would do it withhim again if I was young, but I
was like if something everhappened to this, I was like I
don't think I'd do it.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done,
I'm done, I'm done.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I'm done, I'm.
So we are both in aconversation with each other.
It's like you know and you got,you just got to put an effort
with your person see.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
So actually, you pivoted me right into where I
wanted to take you, which was oh, look at that, how do you keep
your marriage thriving whilerunning a company?

Speaker 3 (18:40):
you.
How do you want me to go there?
Intimacy you've got, I mean,that is.
It's so funny.
I think that so many people aremissing that in their marriage
and me and my husband have beentogether 17 years, so not a
short amount of time, but not asoup.
No, we haven't been together 50years yet, you know, but that's
it.
I mean, I think likecommunication is important, but

(19:02):
I think that intimacy factor,like we, it's funny.
I always like I don't mindtalking about this stuff and
Ryan's much more private, butI'm like, oh man, if I posted
about this, like the real deal,on social media, like people
would probably be gangbustersfor it.
But you have to.
You got to have fun togetherand you have to laugh.

(19:23):
I think that people take thingstoo seriously.
Sometimes.
I think women have a way ofbecoming naggy to their partner
because they're not feelingsupported.
I think that's where that comesfrom.
And I think that men they think, well, I'm doing this and I'm
working, but then they're notsupporting their wives or making
an effort to like connect withher and make it feel seen.

(19:43):
And then you know, women arewomen, are like well, I don't
want to have sex with him.
And then the men are like well,she won't ever have sex with me
, and then it like breaks downfrom there.
I really think that's thedownfall of a lot of marriages.
So we make sure that we'reconnecting with each other like
often, and then everybody thatwe meet, I mean, sounds like

(20:05):
really simple.
But men are very simplecreatures and I think they have
to be coached lovingly by women.
I really do.
I think that it's years of likehey, like I mean you don't know
how many times I've talked to myhusband in our earlier years
where I'm like I need you toconnect with me here before I go
there, but men are likeinstantly ready to go there.

(20:25):
But it's like we need a littlebit more than that, you know.
And the thing too, which I'lladd, which I mean I could talk
about this all day long, but wedon't have to I remember reading
that like creative energy isactually the same as like sexual
energy, and so if you'reworking all the time and you're
getting all that energy out justin business and you don't have

(20:48):
any in reserve, that part ofyour life can definitely suffer.
And so it's important, I think,that, as you're to bring it
back to a business place is.
As you're building a business,it's important to keep some of
that reserved for your person,that you're not just like
putting it all out on the tablejust for work, like save a
little something for the peopleat home I love that you went

(21:11):
there and, yes, that was exactlythe type of answer I wanted,
because then, yeah, I talkedabout all I.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I don't filter on the podcast when I'm asking
questions, because I rather haveyour honest, yeah expression of
what makes things work.
Yeah, yeah, especially as asingle person who's like how do
I do this?
Like I, I desire to have it all.
Yeah, so it's like you have tolearn from people who are

(21:37):
actually making it work, yes,and you know what I would tell
women, because it's so funny.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I have a friend that she was like she has this
beautiful home with thisbeautiful like all all glass
shower.
And she's like, oh, but I'llnever like be in there in front
of my husband and I'm like whatyou have like multiple children
together.
Like what are you talking about?
Like you don't get naked infront of that, you know.
And she's like, no, she's likeI gained weight and blah, blah,
blah.
Any woman listening to this, mendon't care, they don't care.

(22:04):
There's still like 13-year-oldboys that are like boobs.
Like she's naked, like they'renot going.
Oh, my God, she has cellulite.
Like my body has been throughweight gain, weight loss, having
two kids.
Like, seriously, my husband hasloved me at all phases.
But if I all of a sudden waslike no, you can't see me naked,
I won't take my shirt off infront of you.

(22:25):
Like wah, wah, like be fun.
And like it's okay, like he'sgonna love you.
Like men are very simplecreatures.
They're like a light switch.
For real, they're very, verysimple.
And women are so complicatedthat we take our vantage point
and we put it on them and it'slike no, like they do not

(22:45):
operate like we do.
Like, the quicker you canunderstand that marriage becomes
pretty dang simple.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
It's very simple well , thank you, I should be taking
notes and like, yeah, replaying,and like, literally take notes,
because this is it's actuallynot very.
I'm starting to notice thatguys are so simple, like so
simple.
Why didn't you mean just that?

(23:14):
I literally meant that I'm likeyes, I mean I'm sitting here
thinking X, y equals MX plus B.
No, no, it's totally what Isaid is what I meant, and we're
done.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, no, they're like animals and I mean I don't.
I think and I love, I love men.
I'm not saying men are stupidat all, but like if my husband
was sitting next to me, he'd belike no, men are very simple.
They are very simple.
It doesn't mean they can'tevolve and grow with you and
change and open up to differentperspectives.
They have to be willing, though.
Like my husband has learned somuch just being married to me,

(23:49):
but he's always willing becausehe wants to understand me and he
wants us to have a greatrelationship.
So he also works hard and heholds a lot of space for me.
When I get nutty and intense andmad and I'm crying, like he's
like I got you, like he's sostrong for me, even though I'm
strong, he's really strong whenI need to just like go to pieces

(24:13):
, and then I pick myself up 30seconds later, I'm like, all
right, here we go, like go topieces, and then I pick myself
up 30 seconds later I'm like,all right, here we go, but it's
that's, I think, truly having apartner.
That is beautiful.
Thanks, yeah, I know we shouldbe speaking on stage about a
marriage.
No, you're sorry.
Yeah, so I've had this topic.
I love relationships.
I think that people make it toohard and I think they don't

(24:34):
talk.
I think that's the biggestthing is people don't talk about
stuff beautiful, so you've holda lot of hats.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
We've already touched on this.
Yeah, how do you hold all yourroles without losing yourself in
the process?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
yeah, and you know that's a good question and I'm
like I don't know if I have theright answer, but there is no
right answer.
Yeah, I'm like, how do I do itbecause I have the right answer
but there is no right answer.
Yeah, I'm like, how do I do it?
Because I have always, I think,probably one of my biggest like
core values in people that I dolife with and for myself.
It's very, very important that Ican be authentic with the

(25:10):
people that I'm around, so evenwith my kids and stuff.
It's not like I put this roleon of mom and then my
personality changes, like I keepit real with my kids because
authenticity is like at the core, who I am, that I don't want to
.
I don't ever want to pretend oralter myself For some reason.
That's just the way God made meis.

(25:31):
I'm very like everybody's herefor a purpose and meant to be
themselves.
So I'm not someone who, like,cleans it up in front of my kids
.
My kids know I keep it real.
They know that if they ask me aquestion, I'll tell them an
honest answer.
Like I might not, like I'll putit in like a way that I think
yeah, like receive it.
But same with my husband.
He could ask me what I think ofthings and I will tell him

(25:52):
authentically and honestly, andit's the same way that I show up
for my clients.
So, even though I have a lot ofdifferent roles that I play and
you know there might be acertain filter depending on who
the person is I'm alwaysBrittany first.
Like it's like what do I value?
Who am I?
Why is this important to me?
So, even though the hats mightswitch, I guess the personality

(26:15):
doesn't.
So it's makes it a little.
I don't know if that answers it, but I think that I mean, at
the just my core being likethat's who I am.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
So it just depends on , like, what role I'm filling at
the moment know what I lovethat you went there, because so,
as an assignment I kind of gavemyself a couple of weeks ago
was like I asked a few peoplelike okay, when you think of me,
what do you think of?
And it was partly because Iwanted to get clear on my brand,

(26:46):
but it was also just me wantingto see what my essence felt
like for people.
And when I realized the answerswere coming up almost identical
and these were people who havenot met each other.
They were from differentcircles.
Yeah, I was like, oh, I'm doingsomething right if I'm showing

(27:07):
up in different areas of life.
Yeah, authentically me, becauseat the end of the day, either
you're going to love me oryou're going to hate me.
But I'd rather it be becauseyou like my true self than me
conforming like a chameleon tobe in your box.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Exactly, yeah, exactly, and it's funny.
I've been talking to mydaughter about this and she's
very headstrong and veryscientific.
But you know, it's hard being ateenager and being in middle
school, because they think, well, but I want a friends and I
want to be in that group, butsometimes you have to change who
you are and be somebodydifferent to fit in with that

(27:43):
group, you know, and so we'vehad a lot of conversations, as
she's grown up, about like.
You know, though, if they don't, those people aren't for you,
and I think that too, likeraising kids, it's like teaching
them those things, becausesometimes we don't learn it till
we're an adult, and it's hard,and I think sometimes we still
have to learn it as an adult,you know, because making friends

(28:04):
as an adult isn't easy.
We're not forced to be in aclassroom with somebody for
hours to like have this abilityto make friends.
You know, it's like we meet upfor coffee and see if we like
each other.
Yeah, it takes more effort onceyou hit a certain age yeah, but
it's still awkward and weird andwe still have funny
insecurities and things, justlike kids do.
But yeah, I think that what'sthe point of life if you're not

(28:27):
gonna be who you were created tobe?
Because I do think we have thatinternal knowing and so that's
such a cool exercise to do, andI've done that, too, years and
the common denominators werepeople were like you.
What you see is what you getand you tell the truth, you know
, like you're authentic and it'slike that's good, because
that's really important to meand it's important for the

(28:49):
people that I interact with.
You know, it's like I don't wantto be around a bunch of
bullshit, you know.
And then it's like are youtelling the truth or are you
trying to be who I think youshould be?
You know, and so that's alwaysmy thing with anybody.
I'm like just tell me the truth, like you don't need to
sugarcoat it.
Just, it'd be so much easier,wouldn't everything be so much
easier?
People were just like, if yousay, if you propose something to

(29:10):
them like this, you know,coaching package, or whatever,
like we'll keep it.
You know, in that businessrealm, and people were just like
yeah, I'm in or no, I don'tlike that or yes, but I can't
afford it right now.
Can we do it next week?
Like that would just take allthe bullshit out of it, and like
the follow-up messages and thethis and the that.
It's like if people were justhonest, or like I just think

(29:33):
life would be so much easierbecause it would take out that
gain you know Exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
I think you just brought up something that I love
and I've been told sometimesthat I'm a little too direct.
And I'm just like, I'd ratherbe direct than bullshit with you
.
Yeah, nah.
So it's like, and that's justacross the board.
Regardless of whether it'sbusiness or how I speak to
people in my life, I'm just like, if I have a thought, you're

(30:00):
not getting the sugar-coatedversion, I will be nice about it
.
Usually I'm not.
I'm not someone who will beoutwardly like I'm going to call
you names, but like, yeah, Ihave an opinion, you're getting
the full opinion.
There's no sugarcoating it, andI think that generally, like, I

(30:20):
just you're right, I'm with youon the whole.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
I wish people would just say what they meant, versus
making me play a guessing gamewith you yeah, or reading into
it, you know, I think just somuch gets lost when people try
to have like an angle.
Or you know, and I know that'show the world works.
Like I've had to negotiate alot of stuff, you know it's like
, but, yeah, I mean that's evenlike you know and I know that's
how the world works.
Like I've had to negotiate alot of stuff, you know it's like
, but I mean that's even likeyou know, the most like basic
example would be like going tobuy a car, you know, and it's

(30:43):
like listen, like I don't wantto sit here for five hours and
do this.
Like you just tell me whereyou're at, I'll be completely
honest with you.
And like let's see if we canget come to an agreement.
Wouldn't it be great if datingwas that way, if?

Speaker 2 (30:58):
you know, like I mean , I would have me single if I
had that ease of being like,just like okay.
So are we doing this or not?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Right, yeah, I know, but it's like the warm up
process and I think it'sprobably hard for people like us
because, yeah, it's like, andespecially like in business,
because it's like, andespecially like in business,
because it's like, well, are youin or you're out, but like
there are certain types ofpeople that have to like warm up
ideas and they got to think andthey got to analyze and this
and that, and I'm like you'rewasting my time, you know.
But it's just that's the beautyand the suckiness, I guess, of

(31:34):
like doing life with people,because people are all very
different and we just have tolearn how to work with them.
Beautiful.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
So what rituals, practices or mindset shifts did
you have to keep yourselfanchored when life and business
both feel a bit too full?
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
So I have some practical and then I have some
like mindset.
So I have made it a practicenot to like overcommit myself,
like schedule wise, where I feelcompletely drained.
I will have one or two busydays, like calendar wise, and I
try to stack them at thebeginning of my week.
That helps with overwhelm.
And then I like I Fridays aremy light day.
I believe in fun Fridays.
I like Fridays are my light day.
I believe in fun Fridays.

(32:16):
I will do things in the morningbut I will not do anything after
that, cause I'm like by likeone o'clock on a Friday
everybody's checked out, likeeverybody's over it, like we're
wrapping up for the weekend.
So I stack my schedule acertain way and everything goes
on the calendar and I do notlook at the week ahead, I look
at tomorrow.
And then I mentally think whatdo I have to do tomorrow?

(32:37):
Got it?
So I can like mentally prepare.
I do not go past a day.
So there's that.
That's like on the practicalside.
And then there are times whenthings feel really overwhelming,
like emotionally, energetically, you know, and it seems like
when stuff hits.
It hits like multiple things hit, and it's like things hit, yeah

(32:57):
, and it's like what the hell?
And so I am a person of faith.
I do believe that when we're upto something big, the world
spirit whatever you want to callit tests us a little bit and I
always have to remind myselflike oh, I must be on to
something like that I'm gonnahave to push through.
Like I must be on the edge of abreakthrough.

(33:19):
Because if something like, ifall of this is coming at me, all
this resistance, all theseobstacles, like I'm on the
freaking edge of something.
So I got to push through.
And then just another, like it'sreally good to get into
gratitude.
And if you're like I'm totallyoverwhelmed, you got to shift
your energy.
You got to like get up, get outof your office, go for a walk,

(33:39):
go for a drive, listen to music,dance, sing like, work out,
like whatever you can do to likeshift your energy.
Or if you're like my mind is socrazy, like I do think you
should physically do somethingto kind of get in a different
state, but listen to ameditation, do gratitude, like
you have to know that you have ago-to to like shift your energy

(34:02):
when you're feeling like that.
So that's really important.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Beautiful and I love that you touched on like
actually getting into momentum.
Yeah, because a lot of times Ifeel like we can be very easily
guilted into staying in our ownlittle well, I call it pity
puddles.
Yeah, that's funny.
Yeah, right, because if, like,well, I don't want to feel good
right now, but how long are yougoing to allow yourself to sit

(34:29):
there and wallow on it?
I'm not saying you shouldn'tfeel, but like sometimes we just
kind of get up and do it.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, you shouldn't like, you shouldn't stay there
for too long.
I think that we shouldacknowledge our feelings, but I
think that a lot of times peopleget into the mud because they
let their emotions dictate theiraction.
You know, it's like, well, Idon't feel like it or I don't
feel, but the thing is is, ifyou get in motion and you get
into action, like I think you,sometimes you just got to pull
yourself out of like your ownbullshit because it's like you,

(35:00):
we don't like that's such a lowvibrational thing.
And then we get into blame andfeeling bad for ourselves and
becoming the victim.
And then what you can actuallydo, I think, is just shift into,
instead of being the victim,become the creator.
You know which?
If you haven't studied thedrama triangle, you probably
have, but it's like incredible,like drama versus empowerment,

(35:21):
and then you go, okay, like yougot to reset yourself and go
what is something I can do rightnow?
That's going to move the needleforward.
And sometimes it's freaking,taking a nap, like I mean, I'm
not saying you got to get crazyand go do like a marathon or
something, but sometimes it's.
You know what?
I've been sitting in my officefor three hours and I've been on
my phone all day, which bogsdown your brain, right, it's

(35:43):
like I'm going to put on myheadphones and I'm going to go
for a freaking walk and I'mgoing to look at all the beauty
that's all around me and thatright there can shift and then
you can get a really good ideaand then you can go act on it.
You know, but I think peopleget in this cycle where they're
like well, it's not working, butI'm gonna keep going.
It's like if it's not working,it's not working.
Like, do something else.
Yeah, yeah, pivot, there ispower in the pivot.

(36:08):
I tell people you can alwayschange your mind.
You don't like what you'redoing, do something different.
Not really that crazy, you know.
Like, do something else.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Shift All right.
So when you think about theBrittany who first started
leaving teens years ago, whatwould you tell her now, oh
goodness.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Ah, go easy on yourself.
I used to, and that noteverything's about me.
I think that one of thetoughest things about working
with people is conflict, and Ican be naturally a bulldozer,
and so you know how we talkedabout people who are a little
bit slower.
I think that I could probablyin the beginning days, I

(36:51):
probably bulldozed over peopleand I was always good about
taking personal responsibility.
But I think that if somebodydidn't respond to me right away
or if they weren't doing what Ithought they should be doing, I
took it really, really personaland I would remind that girl
like hey, you're doing a greatjob, keep going, but not

(37:13):
everything's about you and alsonot everything needs to be taken
care of right now, meaning thatlike if somebody wasn't happy
with me, I didn't have to try tosolve it right then, like I
could, you know, like take time,and that's, I think, one of the
hardest parts for me is, ofcourse, you want everybody to
like you.

(37:34):
You know which people might notget that right away from me,
because I'm pretty strong and,you know, confident and like
bold and all this stuff.
But it's also like I strugglewith that.
I'm like I don't want people tonot like me and I struggled
with a lot of that in thebeginning of leading teams.
But if I would have maybe beena little bit more involved in
that way, it probably would havebeen a little easier.

(37:55):
But that's what helped meevolve.
Right was like dealing with allthose kind of situations, but
that's such a beautiful answer,oh, thanks.
Yeah, I'm like I haven'tthought about a lot of this
stuff in a long time.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
It's like, oh, like reflecting on it, you know see,
this is why I don't providequestions in advance.
Yeah, I know, this is great.
This is great.
So you talk a lot aboutbuilding with integrity and
obviously relationships are hugefor you, especially with what
you do.
Can you share a time when youhad to choose your values over

(38:31):
easy money and what taught yougod?

Speaker 3 (38:33):
which time I've walked away from stuff that most
people probably be like why thehell did you do that?
Yeah, I mean probably the mostrecent thing.
Well, there was two in the lastcouple years where I mean, I
was making like five figuremonths, like not just ten
thousand dollars, like twentyplus thousand dollars a month,

(38:54):
which was a great income, and itwas at a time that our family
really needed that income, youknow, and I was selling for a
company, running a coachingcompany, and that was the one
where, like, my boss would callme late and I would talk to him
and I would always acquiesce tohim, but he also gave me a lot
of opportunities.
So there was so much that Ilearned, like it was such a

(39:16):
great experience, even thoughthe leaving was, you know, like
it was because I wasn't alignedanymore.
And so, you know, I was talkingearlier about always
authentically being me right,and I think that what that means
is that we honor ourselves whenwe go.
This isn't an alignment with me.

(39:36):
This is an alignment with who Iam, what I want to do, my
values.
This isn't an alignment with me.
This isn't an alignment withwho I am, what I want to do, my
values, and this doesn't meanyou just throw a fit and leave
when things aren't going yourway, because things aren't
always going to go your way.
But that one was he wanted tolike change my compensation and
all this.
And I was just like, am Ivalued here?

(39:57):
Because how I in a workrelationship, how I see value,
is how I'm compensated right,like it's an exchange of work
for money, like that's how thatworks.
You know you can't pay yourbills with like compliments.
So that was one that was toughto walk away from, because what
we had built over the course ofa year with that person was like

(40:20):
really incredible and verysuccessful and the best that
company had ever been.
And then I felt bad for leavingpeople behind on the team, like
.
I felt like this sense ofresponsibility, but then I had
to work through that and go.
That's not my stuff, that I'mnot responsible for them.
So that was challenging.
And then I went to a company.
I only stayed for five monthsbecause just the relationships

(40:44):
and the main dude was cool, buthe would also like freak out on
people and I was like, oh, likenot on me, because that would
not have gone well, but justsome really toxic relationships
in the office and like peoplethrowing each other under the
bus and like people lying andlike there's just so many weird
things that I was just like thisis not my vibe and I had a

(41:08):
wonderful salary at that place.
It was really cool to get paidevery two weeks, you know,
because when you're anentrepreneur, you're like I hope
that these people are going tostick around and continue paying
me, but they could also not.
But at a job, you know, andyou're on a salary, it's a
different story.
So, yeah, but that one, I wasjust like this is not who I am.

(41:29):
This is like I'm not seen aswith for my value.
I don't have a lot of authorityhere.
I don't think I can changethings and really truly like
when I was going through thatbecause we didn't have a plan, I
thought, man, if I could justshift the culture here, which is
putting my values on somebodyelse and that's not fair either,
because I'm like they'rerunning the company the way they
want to run it.

(41:49):
They're not running it the wayI would run it.
But really clearly in my head Ifelt like God told me go build
the business with the culturethat you want to be a part of,
and that is how the revenueagency was born.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
So yeah, I love that.
I love that it literally ledyou to actually doing your own
thing and I mean you're building.
Just as someone who's witnessedsome of the magic you guys
create, it is incredible to seethe culture and the way that you
guys interact with one another,and then also the way you're

(42:23):
there for your clients.
I just wanted to shout you outfor that.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Oh, thank you, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know we work
together on that level andthere's just certain standards
that we hold, and communicationis one of them, and we have a
really cool team.
We're like family, like friendslike and I mean, a lot of
families are dysfunctional.
So you know, we're not likethat, but we are like all we

(42:47):
have each other's backs, like wehave this sense of loyalty and
honesty with each other.
No-transcript to give you whatyou need from me, which that's

(43:18):
the relationship piece, right,and so it's not.
It doesn't just start like that, but you have to want to build
that and do the work to buildthat.
So it's been incredible.
I love what we have here, Ilove what we've created.
Like, every day, me and myhusband were like wow, like we
are walking in the dream that weonce had, you know.

(43:41):
So it's, it's fun.
It's fun.
It doesn't mean it's alwayseasy, but you know we're like,
okay, like this is what wewanted.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
We need to be grateful for where we're at.
I love your, just the way youhandle it and also, if you think
about it, we were talking a lotabout relationships on this
call podcast.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
It's done.
Whatever we're doing here,right fixed out, whatever we're
doing here right.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
It's kind of that aspect of like you have to give
what you, not what you need,what the other person needs, and
that's exactly.
Yeah, it doesn't matter if it'san intimate relationship or if
it's a business relationship.
You need to come up with theauthentic version of what
actually helps the person feelseen, heard and taken care of.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Absolutely yeah, and I think it's funny.
It's kind of become this liketheme right throughout our
conversation today.
But everything comes down torelationships, and when people
aren't great at relationships, Ithink business is going to be
hard and you're going to burnbridges.
You're going to have a lot ofmiscommunication and even when
things have gotten tense withclients, like maybe they had an

(44:52):
expectation or whatever I alwaysI don't, I don't usually
actually get heightened in thosesituations I go, ok, I think we
had some mismanagedexpectations, what did you think
we were supposed to be doing?
And then here's what I thoughtwe agreed to this, you know, and
it's like having thoseconversations and not having it

(45:13):
be like a big fight or anything,but like, okay, listen, we need
to reset and we need to havethese conversations Because
relationships, people, businessyou're going to have stuff where
things get lost in translation,where it's like, well, you said
this and that's what I thoughtyou meant, but it's like, well,

(45:34):
you said this and that's what Ithought you meant, but it's like
, oh, no, no, what I meant, whatyou know.
So there's just a lot of thatand I think at the base of all
of it is that if we can givepeople grace, you know, like,
like give people the benefit ofthe doubt that they're trying to
do their best that no one'sperfect, you know that and it it
just builds strongerrelationships and more loyalty
in business relationships.
I had one gal not long ago likewell, it was like she was like

(45:56):
picking on something that I'venever said is my strong suit and
I'm like I never said that thatwas like something that I'm
good at, like what are youtalking about?
And she was trying to kind oflike make a dig at me and I I
was like what are kind of likethat I should be doing my
business a certain way.
And I was like I didn't startmy own business to work for
myself so that I would do thingsI don't want to like do like we
have everything covered on ourteam, but it's like just because

(46:19):
I don't do that like doesn'tmean that I'm not great at what
I do, you know.
But it was like she wanted toput her stuff on me, that she
thought that I should be doingthis, and I was like I couldn't
do that and Ryan is.
This is where he's so strongand so great because I can be
the one I want people to thinkI'm good and be happy with me,
and we've had the best clientexperiences.
But every once in a while wegot like a curveball right and

(46:39):
he's like it's your business,you can say whatever the hell
you want, and he reminds me ofthat that I don't have.
Like hr, that's like, you know,I'm like shit, we don't have
any time to burn that.
Yeah, it's really incredible tohave him remind me of that.
Like you can say whatever youwant to say, like I'll always

(47:00):
have to deal with theconsequences of it, but he's
like you can be who you areauthentically and I'm like oh,
yeah, okay, that's okay, youknow.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I love that you went there.
I really love that you wentthere.
Oh, so, yeah, I have a questionfor you.
What mistakes do you often seeentrepreneurs make when they're
trying to grow, and what wouldyou have them focus on instead?

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Oh, the mistakes.
The mistakes.
I think people overcomplicategrowing a business.
Because if you think about,like at the most basic, basic
level, what does a business need?
It needs a customer.
That's it.
You need a customer, you needsomebody to pay you, and then

(47:45):
you need to do a great job,delivering whatever they paid
you for, and then they'll gotell people and you'll have like
a client which will give youmore confidence.
And that is how you build abusiness.
People think, oh, I needsomebody to do this and that and
this and that, and you knowwhat.
I do believe in reinvesting inyour business when you're at
that point.

(48:05):
But if you're not making a lotof money, in reinvesting in your
business when you're at thatpoint, but if you're not making
a lot of money, you need to gofreaking, find the money, like
at the very minimum, because ifyou have bills that you're
paying and you're paying otherpeople to help you build a
business, but you're notactually building the business,
now this becomes very stressful.
You resent the people you'repaying because you're
financially stressed out.
And that's what I think thatyou have to become good at sales

(48:30):
, which is really the skill isyou got to become a good
salesperson of yourself.
Sometimes it's easier to sellsomething else than to sell
ourselves because it comes backto that confidence piece.
But if you can even find for amoment that like passion and the
conviction, conviction is veryimportant when you're selling

(48:51):
something to somebody and as youdo it more and more, you'll
become more confident and it'llget easier.
But I think that people don'tput enough focus on that is that
like you gotta go sell andpeople are like but I had a
really great post.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
It's like okay the post don't likes, don't sell no,
they could.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
They could, you know, with other action, but it's
like you gotta move the needleevery day.
You gotta like be talking topeople about what you do every
single day.
You gotta be asking forreferrals every day.
You gotta be doinguncomfortable follow-up every
day, like that's the stuff andlike people are like, oh, but
I'm like, you know, like and youknow deferrals every day.
You got to be doinguncomfortable follow-up every
day, like that's the stuff andlike people are like, oh, but
I'm like, you know, like and youknow I will.
I coach social media.

(49:33):
I believe in social media, butit's like if you're spending
three hours making a reel butyou're not talking to potential
customers, you're you're notgoing to build a best, not very
fast anyways.
So Agreed.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah, okay.
So switching to build a bestnot very fast anyways.
So agreed, yeah, okay.
So switching gears a little bit, okay.
How do you, personally, staygrounded in your values while
running a fast-paced business?

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I think that, gosh, I mean it.
I'm like how I I think that itgoes back to like that
authenticity and also payingattention to your energy and
like those gut instincts thatyou get because I've closed
deals with people that, like Iknew I maybe shouldn't have
done's hard, like when you'rebuilding to not like you're

(50:28):
going to do that stuff in thebeginning, and so I think that
it's wanting to grow to a pointwhere you're like I get to
choose who I that I work with,the people that I want to work
with and the people thatappreciate me and value me and
are fun to work with.
I don't want to see a client'sname pop up in my email and get
anxiety Like I've done too muchof that, you know.

(50:50):
And oh my gosh, my battery islike 11, like great, so I'd uh,
yeah, I think that payingattention to those gut instincts
and not leaning into scarcityif you're just trying to close
deal for money, I think that'sone of the biggest pieces,
beautiful.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
What practices or rituals would you say help you
embody and look alignment as aleader, a mom and a woman?
Yeah, what?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
rituals or practices.
It's very important for me formy mental health to be active
every day, so I work out or walkor do something like that every
day.
And it's good for me to becreative outside of work.
So, like I enjoy my house, Ilike to decorate for the seasons
, I like to do those things, andI've also lately given myself

(51:39):
permission to read novels againinstead of just like personal
development books.
So I've been reading forenjoyment and when I have free
time and I'm like, is my workdone?
Did I?
Did I move the needle today?
Did I do what I needed to do?
And the answer is yes.
It's like, ok, like girl, dosomething for yourself, do
something you want to enjoy youknow Love that yeah, OK.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
So when you look back , what's been your biggest rise?

Speaker 3 (52:11):
not just in business, but who you are as a person.
Okay, I'm so sorry if this isgoing to completely mess this up
, but I have to like pluggedinto power.
Um, you're fine.
I'm like, oh my gosh, sorry,anita, I'm like the worst
podcast guest ever.
I'm like do you edit these?
You know I am too real life.
It's a real like.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Unfortunately, this is just we're going with it, you
know, because I'm the host.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
This is the real deal .
I'm like I just needed like mycord is literally not long
enough, so it's fine, but I'mreally glad because that was
starting to stress me out.
Okay, can you re-ask me thequestion one more time?

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Absolutely so I said when the question.
One more time absolutely so Isaid when you look back, what's
been your biggest rise, not justas a business owner but in who?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
you are, as a person, been my biggest rise by rise,
do you mean like all people uplevel?
Okay, yeah, you know what'scrazy.
This probably sounds like astupid answer, but stupid
answers ever.
You know what I it's funny.
I actually think making surethat you're taking care of your

(53:15):
body, I really like like thatbecause, okay, like personal
story, I have been heavy and Ihave been thin and I've been in
between and I've gone throughphases.
You know it's like I've had twokids, I've, you know, whatever.
You know, there's been like alot of different like health
things and body things that I'veendured throughout the years.

(53:37):
And so I think also, as I ageI'm almost 40, I'll be 40 in
like a year and a half, I thinkand you look great for your age.
Oh, thank you.
Uh, working out in Botox.
There you go, guys.
Yeah, there you have it.
There's the secret have sex,get Botox and work out.

(53:57):
But yeah, I think that likealways taking care of your body,
because that's where everythingstarts right, like your energy,
all of that.
Like it all comes back to justlike how much are you sleeping,
how much are you hydrating?
Are you eating healthy?
So that has always been tied tomy success levels actually is
like having a healthy body,because I've also been at the

(54:18):
places where, like, I didn'tfeel very healthy and my energy
was low.
I maybe got more headaches,like I didn't feel good about
myself, so I didn't want to beon camera, I didn't want to take
pictures, I didn't want to likedo those things which I would
tell anybody, like don't letthat stuff hold you back.
Like, just be authentic withwhere you are.
But I just know from like acreative perspective, like that

(54:39):
is something that has definitelyaffected my life at different
points, you know, and just myenergy and how I feel about
myself, because I think how wefeel about ourselves really does
impact everything.
So being physically healthy hasbeen a game changer in a lot of
ways, and I think that people,when they see people who are
healthy because it is so rare inour world they pay attention to

(55:01):
you differently.
You know they're like they mustlike be in order in some way.
Like when you see someone who'syou know they're like they must
like be in order in some way.
Like when you see someone who'syou know really fit, it's like
you just know that that personhas to have a level of
discipline, because you can'tfake that like that cannot.
You cannot fake that, you can'tborrow that, and so I think
that it's actually like a snapjudgment that people will make

(55:24):
you know, like taking you moreseriously.
You know, which sounds kindsuperficial, but I think it's
the world that we live inespecially as life gets hectic.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
That's when it's more important to be on that like.
I don't want to call it a grind, but on that grind of like.
I'm gonna make sure I'm stilleating right, I'm still gonna
take myself out physically andwhatnot, because it can take a
bad season and make it worse ifyou're not conscious yeah, yeah,
a hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
And I think that when we're busy we can go to
convenience a lot of times,which is like fast food or not
eating or whatever, and itreally truly does affect our
mind, everything, our energy,and that is how we are showing
up in the world.
So I mean it's funny because Iknow it seems kind of like a
simple, goofy answer.
It's not, like you know, reallyinspiring, but I do think that

(56:28):
it's really important to makesure that we're always taking
care of ourselves first.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Beautiful.
So if you could leave ourlisteners with one truth about
building a brand and a businessthat honors both their ambition
and their soul, what would it be?

Speaker 3 (56:46):
I would say to really like.
It goes back to thatauthenticity and I think that
you're going to see this reallybeing like, that edge that
certain businesses have is thatauthenticity and connection.
So I would say, do not try tobe anybody but you.
Sometimes we have to filterourselves a little bit, right,

(57:07):
because you know, even likewhere I live, it's like you know
I'm friends with my kids'sfriends, parents and their
coaches and things like that.
So I probably need to filtermyself a little bit, which I
always think.
Well, maybe if I didn't like,what would that be?
You know what would that belike, but I'd be wild, but I'd
be, you know, it would be metotally.

(57:27):
Yeah, I do.
But you know I live in texas,so you know people are like oh
my god, what did she say?
oh, she just say that it's minebut yeah, I think I'd say, like,
really tap into, like yourauthentic voice.
Do not ever post from a placeof caring what people think

(57:47):
about you.
Like be okay with who you areand where you're at, and like
the journey that you're on, andI think that that is like the
biggest thing and people willrelate to you, they will
appreciate you, they will followyou, because we live in a very
fake world and so when peoplesee something that's true and
honest, they will follow it andcling to it and and it's just
like a bug drawn to a light.

(58:09):
You know it's like oh, what'sthat?
Like I want to be near that.
I like that.
That feels good.
So, I just think, alwaysleading with authenticity, I
love that.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
And finally, before we get into our quickfire round
oh, oh, my gosh, what legacy doyou hope to leave, not just
through business?
But, through the way you live.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Yeah, I think it's funny.
Legacy is an interesting thingand everybody probably has a
different take on it, but Ithink probably the most
important thing is like, yes, Iwant to make a lot of money.
Yeah, I want to live a coollife.
I would love to leave peoplelike with when they think about
me.
They think you know, she taughtme this, she helped me break

(58:53):
through, or there was thismantra, this thing that she said
that always like got me through, like you know, when you're
thinking about the people out inthe world that you affect.
But the true legacy for me israising two amazing humans that
are going to be here on thisearth, hopefully, like after I'm
gone, and you know they willbecome parents and they will

(59:13):
have children, and that they'redoing good on this earth and
that they're authentic and thatthey are working in their gifts
and making the world a betterplace and making an impact.
Like I think that truly abetter place and making an
impact.
Like I think that truly, if mykids grew up and, you know, did

(59:36):
something like truly with theirgifts that God gave them, that
would be enough for me.
That is so beautiful.
Oh thanks, yeah, I just yeah.
You know how some parents arelike you should be a doctor
because they make a lot of money.
I'm, like, what do you feellike inclined to do?
Like what do you love?
Like that's really important tome that my kids, like I, don't
push them into something thatthey don't want to do because
they think they're supposed to.
You know.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Yeah, 100%.
As someone who is supposed tobe a lawyer.
We appreciate you.
No, sounds like a lot ofreading.
Yes, sounds like a lot ofreading, maybe news, so quick
fire round.
I was actually going to avoidasking you this first question
because I know you kind of havea personal development.

(01:00:16):
Book 8, oh, recent book you'veread that's changed your life
and it does not have to bepersonal development.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
I love personal development books.
I like to listen to them a lotof times because I think they're
so boring to read.
Oh gosh, probably my top threethat I can think of off the top
of my head instead of just one,because I don't want to commit
to that.
The first one I ever read wasthe Ideal Team Player by Patrick
Lincione, and that was a goodone.
When you're looking for, like,the type of people first that
you should be within anorganization and the type of

(01:00:49):
people you want to look topartner with, you want to look
for people who are humble,hungry and smart.
Also, jim Dethmer's 15Commitments of Conscious
Leadership talks about the dramatriangle and empowerment and
that that boring, boring, boringto read, incredible to listen
to and reference.
And then a very tiny littlebook that helped me with

(01:01:12):
discipline and when I needed itwas chop wood, carry water, and
it's like all of those, you gotto do the little things every
day.
You got to chop wood and carrywater every day yeah, beautiful,
yeah, where that this fads yourcurrent season.
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Please don't go full.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Annette, breakthrough , that's like I've been brought
on the edge of breakthrough andexpansion, and so I guess the
word would actually becommitment, staying committed,
beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Daily, non-negotiable that fuels your power.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Coffee Sing.
Oh yeah, For real.
You're mad when I sing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I'm not Song that instantly lifts your mood.
Ooh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
You know what's funny ?
I listen to a lot of reallyinappropriate rap when I work
out.
I also like this on GladiatorNot as much, probably anymore,
as I used to replay it, butthere's this line in this song.
As they couldn't fix me, Iaccepted it and then it's like I
became a gladiator and that'scool because it's like, yeah,
like the world says I should belike this, but like that's not

(01:02:22):
who I am, you know.
So it's kind of badass, lovethat and very you actually.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I know right a place in the world that makes you feel
most alive most alive.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
I really like being, I like the ocean, I like being
out in nature.
I think that it helps usconnect to our creator.
So, yeah, I like, I like a,like a beach which sounds like
it's funny because I don'treally love sand and I don't
really like to swim in the oceanbut I think that's the power
actually of the ocean, likebeing close to the ocean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah, Okay, best advice you've ever received in
one sentence, oh my God, I don'teven like people's advice.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Well, like, I really don't Like.
I'm such a different personthat if something helped me, do
I'm like I really don't like I'msuch a different person that if
something helped what to do,I'm like, no, I'm not doing that
.
Probably, ryan, when he saysyou know, when he's like you can
say whatever you want, likeyou're right, like if you yes, I
don't know if that's the bestadvice I've ever gotten, but
that's the quick, the thing thatcomes mind.

(01:03:25):
Gosh, like I I don't know ifI've ever had any like
groundbreaking advice thatsomebody's given me well I guess
that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I guess that's it.
Yeah, if you weren't doing,this work.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
What would you be doing?
Oh, I'd probably be an interiordesigner.
Actually I could.
I could see that, but I've doneit for people on the side a
little bit.
But yeah, like I'd, that'sprobably what I'd be doing, or
like a personal shopper or likea stylist or like something
visual and pretty like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Yeah, definitely could see that with the
aesthetic.
Yeah, like just the vibe, youressence.
There you go, yeah, yeah.
Morning person, or night owls,morning person One thing you
want women to stop apologizingfor being like saying what you
mean, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
it's like if somebody can't handle it, they can fuck
off.
Like you know, it's like it'snot your problem.
Yeah, it's like just freaking,like quit being small to make
others feel comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Beautiful way to end this podcast.
So if this conversation spoketo you, I invite you to take a
moment to reflect.
Where, on your own journey, canyou bring more of this balance
between ambition andenlightenment?
And, as always, thank you fortuning into the Rise With Anita
podcast.
Until next time, keep rising,keep leading with heart and keep
believing in the version of youwho is already becoming.

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