E374 | How to Get Through to Incredibly Stubborn People

We’ve all been hit by it.

It seemingly comes out of nowhere—a misunderstanding or argument we never saw coming. One moment you’re having a discussion, the next you're blindsided by resistance, vitriol, or passive-aggressive blowback. Where did it come from? Why did something small suddenly feel so personal?

Here’s the truth: it’s rarely about the thing—it’s about what the thing represents. Control. Trust. Identity. Relevance. Fear. A loss of autonomy. There’s always something else simmering under the surface. And if you want to be effective in high-stakes conversations or high-pressure environments, you have to be able to read those underlying signals, not just bulldoze with logic.

In this episode Brett unpacks exactly how to do that and covers:

• How to diagnose the real reason behind someone’s resistance
• Why linking your message to their character is more effective than chasing compliance
• How to foster autonomy by making it feel like their idea
• Why perception, not logic, is the real engine of influence and leadership
• What drives people to defend their identity and internal narrative at all costs

🎯 This episode dives deep into what drives behavior, yours and theirs. Take our free quiz at artofcoaching.com/whatdrivesyou to uncover what really makes people tick.

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Writer’s Workshop – Put Pen to Paper

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Email [e-mail] mention the Writer’s Workshop you heard about on the podcast and let’s start filling the page!

Related Episodes:

E202 | Why Facts and Logic Don't Change Our Minds 

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