#32 Paratruther- Live from Hanger 18 with Mr. Anderson

What if America's financial future is more precarious than we've been led to believe? Join us as we question the trajectory of the nation's economy, drawing insights from Pat Buchanan's 2011 book "Suicide of a Superpower" and examining the stark contrasts between then and now. With Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen's oversight of a significant portion of U.S. national debt, we ponder the implications for America's survival into 2025. This episode also tackles the challenges of broadcasting from the Hangar 18 studios amidst technical hiccups, ensuring a lively exchange of ideas and reflections on the shifting political and economic landscapes.

Our pop culture conversations take a humorous twist as we send well-wishes to Chris Graves and correct some amusing movie mix-ups. From debunking myths around Friday the 13th to exploring the curious lore surrounding the Knights Templar, we promise an engaging blend of history and Hollywood anecdotes. Listen in as we share personal experiences and historical narratives, connecting the past with the present in a captivating and light-hearted dialogue that honors both fact and fiction.

As we journey through history, the symbolism of the number 13 unfolds in surprising ways, from its infamous reputation to its deeper cultural significance. We explore the mysterious connections between numerology, mythology, and secret societies, delving into tales of the Knights Templar and the controversies surrounding figures like Jacques de Molay. With insights into modern secretive orders and geopolitical tensions, we navigate a world of mystery drones, nuclear concerns, and controversial public figures with laughter and thought-provoking storytelling. Discover a world where ancient secrets meet modern revolutions, all wrapped up in a show you won't want to miss.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Thank you for watching.
We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to
another episode of Paratrooper.
I am your host, tony Arterburn,broadcasting live from Hanger,
deep in the heart of Texas,along with my co-pilot and
co-host, beans the Brave, and MrAnderson is also here with his
brain.
His brain couldn't solve theissue with all of our tech,

(02:04):
though, so I appreciate thathe's got his headphones halfway
on.
I can't use them.
I can't hear the sound, so it'dbe great if somebody in the
chat would let us know thatwe're coming through five by
five.
I'm not used to doing a podcastor a radio show without my
headset on.
Yeah, do you want me to turnmine off?

(02:27):
No, you're good.
All right, let me uh make surewe're live everywhere.
Okay, all right, seems, itseems to be that we're live.
Uh, we wanted to talk about, uh, friday the 13th, which just
passed, and a lot of peopledon't realize the history that's
behind that, and I knew that ifI gave the task to Mr Anderson,

(02:50):
he would show up with somenotes.
They're copious.
He's got like three or fourpages, maybe that entire booklet
.
It looks like the notebook fromthe movie Seven.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
It's all written backwards.
It's really a pain to read.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
On the fly over on it's you wrote it back.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Where's my?
Mirror got disappearing ink now, this is all I have.
It reminds me of the water boy,remember when he takes the, the
coach's green notebook.
Yes, you just take this from me.
Next 30 years I can't function.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh man, well, we're back live in the Hangar 18
studios and it's been a while.
And I would say, you know, wedid spend a little bit on
getting some sophisticatedequipment and half of it works.
So we're 50%.
Good, this year works, you're50% on that.

(03:42):
I can't even wear the headsetbecause it doesn't seem to work
at all, and these are brand new,by the way.
So, thanks, free trade.
Where are they made?
But you know where they're madeelsewhere, wherever, wherever
that is.
But all right, folks, let me.
I'm gonna check the the chat.
We're streaming live on rumbleon the americaugged channel, as
well as rockfincom on theAmerica Unplugged channel, and I

(04:07):
will do my best to ensure thatthe audio is continuing to be
okay.
You can hear me, right, I?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
can hear you.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
great I'm making sure I'm flying without my normal
instruments.
I can just see that my voice iscoming through here on the mic.
So I think we're okay.
Let me stop this screen here.
Yeah, I think we're okay.
Let me stop this screen here.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, I think we're good, all right, as good as
we're gonna be okay.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
So it is sunday, december 15th, 2024.
This year's about to give upthe ghost.
We're gonna have a a brand newyear coming up, and that's
exciting because, uh, there'sI've talked about this a lot,
but back in 2011, at the end ofthe year, right around this same

(04:52):
time uh, I was kind of at acrossroads of deciding when I
was going to get into mediabecause it's something I always
wanted to do how I was going todo it, and I was severely broke.
I didn't have many resources orconnections and I was going to
start from scratch, and I wasreading a book by Pat Buchanan

(05:15):
and it was called Suicide of aSuperpower and the subtitle was
Will America Survive to 2025?
, and it talked about all theexistential things that were
affecting us at that time, andit seems quaint now you look
back at it.
I think our debt was somewherearound hovering around $10
trillion.
We're going to hit $40 prettysoon, yes, and we're about to

(05:35):
hit $40 trillion.
We go a trillion dollars indebt every 90 days.
It took us 200 years to getthere to $1 trillion, and now
it's every 90 days.
I don't know if you saw thisstory, but Janet Yellen said she
was sorry, did you see thisstory?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
For being a lizard.
Her tongue came out.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
She said she was sorry because if you look at the
stats, she has presided over46% of all the debt ever created
by the United States governmentas Treasury Secretary in the
last four years.
Folks, and she's very sorry.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's about yeah, it's 15, almost $16 trillion in what
we, and that's not evencounting the unfunded
liabilities.
But she's sorry and uh, I Ithought that was just a sign of
the times why would she evenacknowledge it?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
maybe just a thumb or nose at you?
What good is an apology at thispoint?
It's irrelevant.
I mean, I don't even know whatyou do with 40 trillion debt.
I think you just keep spending.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, you keep spending until you don't you
kill.
You can't anymore.
Um, you inflate your way out ofall the issues.
And I think, as I rememberlistening to that book and
reading the book because I'vealways loved Buchanan One of his
books, the Death of the West itreally changed like how I look
at reality and history andpolitics.
And I read that book on my wayhome from my tour in Iraq on my

(07:04):
third foreign war and I've spokeabout it at length, but that
was like a follow-up to theDeath of the West.
And even he said in that bookthat came out in 2011,.
He's like we're in a differentcountry than when the Death of
the West came out.
Well, we're in a completelydifferent world and reality than
we were in 2011.
And the question still remainswill America survive to 2025?

(07:28):
I mean, so much of us that havebeen paying attention, we would
say that a great deal of therepublic didn't survive into
2025, that a lot of thoseinstitutions and things that we
took for granted having normalcybias is absolutely
cataclysmically changed andwe're looking at a completely

(07:50):
different reality.
So that's coming up.
We have a lot of greatparatroothers and radio shows
and podcasts and interviewscoming up for 2025, and we
appreciate everybody who's stuckwith us so far.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, the other thing you were commenting on before
the show is how strangeeverything seems.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
You know, this past year has seemed very surreal,
and I don't know if I've madepeace with it.
I still sense it.
It just doesn't have the samegrip on me that it did initially
, because it's I don't knowseeing things with renewed eyes
or a new perspective isexhausting.
I wouldn't want to be renewedall the time.
To be honest, it makes youcircle about, almost lose your

(08:31):
wits about things that feltnormal that you grew complacent
to you.
Look at totally different.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I feel like the lady on the plane all the time.
You know that MF-er isn't real.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
And she apologized.
Remember yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I thought that was unfortunate.
I think whenever you go througha meltdown like that and you
call out a shape-shifting lizardperson in the back of the plane
, I think you double down andyou just stick with it.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I know you start a podcast.
It was Janet Yellen.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know, but she's talking.
Janet real, yellen's not real,but the debt is fake people with
real consequences.
So, all right, um, I'm gonna bechecking the comments and uh,
megan maureen says on twitter,says that uh, and thanks, megan.
She says that we have greatmovie references.
Did you do we make it?
Did I lose that?
We know well, the water boy oh,it's water boy, chris graves.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Gotta give a shout out to chris graves.
We.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
We can't do better than chris graves with movie
references that guy's a no,he'll tell you about the time he
met wes craven and they hadlunch and they had that moment
yeah where they locked eyes eyeswas cravings like I had that
same idea.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Get out of my head it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Uh, he's that.
Yeah, chris has so manyhollywood like pop culture
conspiracy references.
Really nobody, no, has.
Uh, you know I have lots ofreferences.
Mine is a hodgepodge, but hisis just.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I mean, it's very intricate and mine has little
pockets that I overemphasize tomake it seem like I know more
than I do, but he really is, canleapfrog from any which way.
And, uh, I got him once on thephone this past week.
He was like I didn't know thatoh, yes, that's.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
That's pretty rare.
Yeah, that's a compliment, buta prayer for Chris.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Right now, as he's going through recovery, Sounds
like he's in high spirits.
I saw in some of the commentswhen y'all did America Unplugged
yesterday that you know here'sthe number if you want to call
him.
Unfortunately he doesn't havehis phone wallet or anything
like that, so you kind of haveto call the hospital.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
We're working on something right now for after
the holidays and everybody willbe able to chip in.
I'm talking to Billy RayValentine and others.
Well, we're going to announcesomething, do a kind of a
special for for Chris anddetails to be announced.
So stick around.
I know a lot of people here wemiss Chris on the show.
It's not.
It's not really a paratrooperwithout Chris.

(11:02):
It's not.
We do our our best.
The mix of stuff that he throwsin there, it makes the show
just so much more funny too, andI get a lot of good compliments
on that I don't know if he'smessing with us, but sometimes
he'll throw something in like abuffet.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes, or I hate regis, he's the antagonist.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yes, the regis philbin was the antichrist.
Now I?
I didn't have that on my bingocard, it wasn't even like in the
top one million, and then hejust throws that out there.
He sticks with it.
He didn't back off of it.
He's like I just don't like him.
I'm doubling down, I'm likehe's dead.
Chris, you don't have to dothat For now.
Tony, all right, well, I'll seeyour, uh, your seven notes

(11:44):
there.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I don't even know it's, it's all random.
I mean, we're gonna start withfriday the 13th well, I just
think it's important.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
so this is paratrooper and we're.
This is what you do.
We do a little bit of topicalstuff and we'll do the headlines
, um, but also a little deep,like a little cul-de-sac of
historical, hidden history,things that you don't know,
because when you're growing upyou think, well, friday the 13th
is unlucky and they made themovie about it with Jason

(12:14):
Voorhees, he's out of CrystalLake, you got that whole thing
and that's what you think of.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
but that's not really where any of that comes from no
, because Jamie Lee Curtis is inthat too right, okay.
And I was telling you about her.
There are a lot of unfoundedallegations that she was born a
hermaphrodite and I'm not sayingshe was, but before I really
got interested in this littlearea of conspiratorial things.

(12:40):
When I was a teenager I had afriend and his father was a
doctor, really good doctor.
He was a ER nurse for a longtime, then became a surgeon,
very specialized surgeon.
But he was telling me I don'teven know how it came up, maybe
it was Friday the 13th but hesaid he knew the doctor who
actually performed the surgerywhen she was born and asked her

(13:00):
parents like what do you want usto get rid of?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well, I think I know that's crazy, and this is where
having Chris Graves would behandy.
I don't believe she was inFriday the 13th.
I think you're thinking ofHalloween.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
You're thinking of Michael.
I am Michael.
Myers had the Shatner mask.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I am, I'm so glad.
After we got a compliment abouther Movie references.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Ew, I'm so bad, you know that's a.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
After we got a compliment about our Movie
references.
Well, this is.
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I'm channeling Chris right now, his stream of
consciousness, and we'retethered.
I knew he was going to get meback, but yeah, jamie Lee Curtis
was in Halloween, that's right,and Michael Myers wears I don't
know.
This is another.
It's a shatner mask.
You know he's supposed to be.
You know that it's supposed tobe william shatner.
Yeah it's like it's a stretchedout william shatner mask,

(13:48):
because they were just lowbudget um what's he saying?
They've got uh, uh, and it was.
It was friday the 13th hockeymask.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, different, different mask I haven't seen
either of those movies in solong.
But the other weird thing abouther I remember a couple years
ago where she was showing offher new table that she had
acquired from some movie set.
She was like look, how nice itis.
And everybody was like forgetthe table.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
What's that?
What's that weird John Podestastyle art studio that you have?
Why is that kid stuffed inluggage?
Now you've still got a JamieLee Curtis tattoo, right.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
This is.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Friday the 13th it's wrong.
Dang it.
I loved you on Friday the 13th.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
No regerts.
Oh, I got it wrong.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
You got it wrong.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Chris, if you're listening, we're bombing.
We need your help.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Bill Burr says, if you can bomb one time and then
you stick with it, that meansmaybe you're meant to do it, so
we'll see.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well, I bombed many times.
I bombed many times and that'sokay, it's not going to be my
worst show.
It's like I watched somethingwith patten oswald once and he
was like, hey, I'm not afraid of, uh, having a bad show.
He's you know why?
Because he tells you his worstshow that he ever did and it's
just horrendous.
You know like where he had likefood poisoning on stage and

(15:19):
like you know what bill burrswas?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
just a quick detour.
He was on a cruise and hedidn't want to do it.
He told his agent I don't thinkthey're going to like me on the
cruise.
The type of people that go oncruises aren't going to like my
humor.
And this was a long time.
He was young, so he said I hadthis terrible, awful feeling
before I went up the first time.
But I was coming to the stageand there was a guy still on

(15:41):
stage singing and if you'rehappy and you know it, clap your
hands.
And they clapped.
This is gonna be awful, realbad yeah, that's real bad.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
So you're gonna read the room.
That's a bad room to walk into.
If you've got any sort ofcomedy, that's not clap your
hands, anything if you're notdoing a puppet show after that,
so screwed.
You're so screwed, all right.
So we, you know classicalreferences and so this is the
history.
This is something I've talkedabout this before.

(16:13):
I know, like randomly, the lastshow I ever did on info wars and
this is weird with me I alwaysI kind of know things, you know,
know, like sometimes, like Iremember going into that was
Friday, the 13th of 2020.
And I went into the InfoWarsstudio.
It was like 5 am and I don'tneed to frame this, but I took a

(16:36):
picture of the studio.
It was just me and the securityguard there, cause I was
hosting for David Knight and I'mlike I don't think I'll ever be
back and it wasn't a decisionthat I was going to make, but I
was like I just don't think I'llever see it again.
And turns out that was true andthat whole year, you know,
david Knight had been talkingabout how Trump had signed the

(16:56):
executive order to lock thecountry down for the emergency
order.
You know the executive orderthat declared you know
COVID-1984, the whole thing andbasically put Fauci in charge of
the country.
That was on Friday, the 13th ofMarch of 2020.
So it was always brought up andthen I just happened to be on, I
brought up this history on thatlast show that I was on, on

(17:19):
InfoWars, and so really you gotto go back to the year.
It was 1307.
And so really you got to goback to the year.

(17:47):
It's 1307.
And you have the Order of theKnights Templar, who they have,
this order where they're goingto protect the road into
Jerusalem, and then theysupposedly had control of what
was left of King Solomon'stemple and you know all the holy
of holies, all that stuff, andthey have the relics and
everything else and they startto keep everything in their
order, so, like, if one dies,they bequeath their, their
fortune and everything they haveto the order.

(18:08):
It keeps on going in perpetuity.
Then they start lending moneyand they start becoming more and
more powerful and so by 1307you have, like kings and the
pope are uh at odds with the.
the knightsar and the leader ofthe Templars was Jacques de
Molay, and you go, basically,look across the continent of

(18:31):
Europe.
You've got this very powerfulorganization that is the first
of its kind, and it has leverageover the monarchies, and so the
King of France, philip the Fair, and Clement V, which were the
Pope they both have an ordersimultaneously across Europe.

(18:52):
They arrest and they kill agreat many of the Knights
Templars.
A lot of arrests, though,because they wanted them to
confess their sins.
They had them.
I don't know if you want to gointo this, but there was a lot
of accusations that theyworshiped the severed head of
John the Baptist and they wereanti-Christian and all these
other things.
If you look at it from theangle of we owe these guys money

(19:14):
, you know, or they haveleverage over us, then that's
just a PR propaganda you knowhow did they keep the head?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Wasn't it Herod's wife that wanted his head?
Well think about it.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's— it's 1099 plus.
I know you don't have the head,yeah, it's a silly proposition,
but back then that was what wasthrown out there.
I want to give you some timebecause I have a lot just off
memory of what happened toJacques de Molay, but this was
Friday, the 13th October 1307.

(19:48):
Simultaneous arrest and adismantling of the Knights
Templar, and we'll talk aboutkind of the aftermath of where
they went, where they ended up.
But what did you have?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
So up the same vein really.
So after they arrested him, hewas the 23rd leader right and
the final one of the KnightsTemplar and eventually they did
burn him on a pyre and it wasapparently wet so it would
prolong it and while he wasdying they did it in front of
Notre Dame Cathedral.

(20:19):
He cursed them, king Philip andalso the Pope, and supposedly
said they'd die within a yearand, funny enough, the Pope
ended up dying about a monthafter that and then the king
ended up dying after suffering astroke on a hunting expedition
within the same year, somethinglike eight months later.

(20:40):
So that really did happen,which is very odd.
But through that I think you'dprobably know this.
After the Knights Templar kindof dissolved, there were
surviving members and otherfactions that went elsewhere.
But I think I read that theJesuits were actually
established as an order toprotect the Pope shortly after

(21:02):
that.
And then I think you have someoffshoots of Masonry right when
in Masons I think you have tobelieve.
It doesn't matter which God,but you have to believe in a
higher power, whereas if you'rea Jesuit you have to believe in
you know God of the Bibleaccording to Christianity

(21:32):
mythology, for instance Nordicmythology that talks about this
dinner party where there were 12Nordic gods and Loki ended up
storming the party and he wasthe 13th uninvited guest and he
was the you know, the god oftrickery.
Right, he was the trickster.
Jordan Peterson would probablyhave a field day with Loki and
you're younger than archetypeTrickster.
But what was that god's name?

(21:52):
Balder?
I don't even think I'mpronouncing it correctly, but
it's B-A-L-D-R.
He was kind of the god of joy,ecstasy and good things, and so
Loki actually shot him with thebow and arrow at this party and
killed him, and because of thatthe world unraveled.
So 13 was subscribed as having abad number, and so lots of

(22:14):
other people point to the LastSupper.
They're 13, and it's like.
But it's Jesus and his apostles, yes, but the 13th was Judas,
right?
And apparently that dinnerhappened right before Friday,
correct, right?
And so again Friday and thenthe 13th.
So it's interesting.
In Christianity, 12 is oftenexplained as a number of
perfection or completion, likeyou, think about the 12 tribes

(22:36):
of Israel, think about the 12disciples.
Then there's other weirdlyweird worldly things like 12
months in the calendar, 12 signsof the zodiac, right, and
that's why some people saidthink 13 is a bad number.
I mean, I don't practice tarot,but I believe the number 13
that card is is death right.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
They don't even like the number 13 so there's, they
skip the floors on hotels a lotof times.
That that's interesting.
We what's weird about thecalendar?
And it's, the two months wereadded and that's july and august
.
July is julius for juliuscaesar.
August is for augustus, rightnow, because if you look at it

(23:19):
like october, oct is eight, sothat's supposed to be the eighth
month, and deca december isright, right, so I'm wondering
if they, when they added that Imean that's the, is that the
Gregorian?
That's the Julian calendar,isn't it?
There's two, there's aGregorian and a Julian calendar.
I'm going to have to.
And of course, you talk aboutthe French Revolution, which you
know we'll get to that, becausethat has a little bit to do

(23:41):
with what happened in 1307,actually, and they changed the
calendar, so that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, but other people think 13 is a good number
.
Like in Judaism, you celebrateyour bar mitzvah on your 13th
birthday right.
Right, and they also don't likethe 12 signs of the zodiac.
So they think 13 usurps thatthey like that number.
And actually I read when thenation-state of Israel was in
1408, the temporary government,it had 13 members, 13 colonies,

(24:13):
13 colonies.
You just have weird events likeApollo 13, right, there's
another 13 reference there, butit's weird.
I mean you can start seeingthis stuff everywhere.
I mean I don't remember themovie, the number 21.
I think I saw it alone 23.
There you go, second moviereference, but I don't.
I think I saw it.
23.
23, there you go, second moviereference, but I don't even

(24:34):
think I.
I don't even think I saw thatone.
Um, but he doesn't, he justunravel because he starts seeing
the number everywhere.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Jim carrey's character yeah, well, you can.
Was it pythagoras who said thateverything was numbers?
You know, um, but then you havethe same as a pre-socratic
philosopher.
Then you had thales, who saideverything was water.
So which one is it?
Is it what numbers and water?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
see, you don't have to believe in numerology, but a
lot of people making decisionsat high places they believe in
numerology and it's important tothem and that's why you see the
numbers coinciding so oftenwith particular events that
might not be good events.
Another thing I wanted to pivotback to because I hadn't seen it
before, but when I was doing alittle bit of research or

(25:16):
reading whatever you want tocall it, for the episode
somebody was talking about whenJacques was actually burned
alive in front of Notre Dame,that Paris was actually
something like per or par ISIS.
It was a or par ISIS.
It was a reference to ISIS.
And so actually in Notre Damethe Knights Templar had been

(25:40):
storing all their gold and theirsilver and all the spoils of
war or whatnot in the catacombsof Notre Dame.
But after this decree in 1307and the death of the Templars,
including Jacques de Molay, theytook all of that and then they
put the skulls and the bones ofall the Knights Templar they
killed in those catacombs.
And that's where you kind ofget this idea of skull and bones

(26:01):
in that society.
It's actually hearkening backto what happened.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
It's funny You're like this, these kind of
conversations, where I'm live onair in front of thousands of
people.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I messed up.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
I started to remember stuff and I just haven't
thought about.
In years.
There was a book that came outI read it when I was in Iraq,
and this is 20 plus years ago.
There was a book about Jacquesde Molay and his execution.
And he wasn't just burned aliveat the stake, they tortured him
, they actually crucified him ona door.
Well lay and his execution.
And they he wasn't just burnedand alive at the stake and they
tortured him, they actuallycrucified him on a door well,

(26:33):
it's like seven years later.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, they actually killed him.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, after the decree is 1314 okay, yeah, so
they, he went through like somehorrendous.
They actually crucified him ona door inside, I think, one of
the castles or one of thecathedrals or whatever it was.
The author and I want to saythe guy's name was Christopher
Knight and the book was calledthe Second Messiah, and what his

(26:58):
thesis was him and his partnerthat wrote about it was that
Jacques de Molay, the imprint onthe Shroud of Turin was
actually de Molay, because ofthe way that the wounds were and
like the dating of the shroudand all the rest of that stuff.
I'm not saying that's the case,right, just saying like that
they made a whole book out of itand that's when I learned about

(27:21):
, um, how much he went throughafter he was imprisoned and
tortured and made to confide allthe stuff, and then then he,
like you said, he cursed thePope, he cursed the King of
France, and that's where you getthe mythos like the origin
story of modern secret societiesspanning out of that that were

(27:44):
really kind of the cornerstoneto what you would conceive of as
the Enlightenment.
You had the Masonic Order and,of course, the Knights Templar
and a lot of people think that,oh well, the Masonic Order
started in 1717 in England, butactually it predates that, I
think, right around the timethat the Templars were destroyed

(28:05):
.
You had these masonry guildsthat had built all those Gothic
cathedrals and had like a lot ofnot they, they kept the
knowledge unto themselves sothey could only have their
people working on thisarchitecture.
So they kind of fuse the twothings together well, it makes
sense too.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
I mean, that's kind of your, your resume, or your cv
, so to speak.
Back then, how do?
How do I know that you're goodat this job?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Right, right.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
You're part of this order or this fraternity?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, they like fuse, the two things, in my opinion,
because you go back and you lookat something like Roslyn Chapel
in Scotland and there's allthese references to like, if you
like they have also.
They have like things that werein the New World that you know
hadn't been discovered yet,supposedly like corn, like maize
, and things that are etched onthe walls from like the 13th

(28:57):
century, so they had made it tothe new world.
I think it's like explorers,you know, since that's you've
seen the movie National Treasure.
It's kind of that same thing.
You talk about the Nicolas Cage, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
He's going to steal the.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Declaration.
The declaration, that's what itis.
It's kind of it's kind of thesame thing, but a bunch of rug
rats.
If you look in rosalind chapelthere's all these references to
like masonic um rites andrituals um that predate masonry.
So I think a a lot of that justkind of fused together and the

(29:34):
Masonic order really is theKnights Templar and so on,
because you can become a KnightsTemplar today.
Right, it's called the YorkRite.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Once you become a.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Mason, you can apply to become a Knights Templar,
which is just ceremonial.
Nobody's guarding the road toJerusalem anymore.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
You don't get access to I forget his name, I think
the leader of it.
Now he says he attests thatthey have the remains of Mary
Magdalene and Jesus' offspringand things like this, but
they'll never show it.
Oh yeah, he said we're justwaiting for the right time and
then we'll reveal it to theworld.
I don't even know how to dothat.

(30:09):
Here's John the Baptist's head.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
It's still preserved.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
That's interesting, but when you do this, what the
King of France did and what thePope did, I mean to argue the
other point of view.
You're almost advocating forthe need for secrecy, to an
extent, if you're, if you'repart of these fraternal
organizations, because that'swhat happens and that's what
struck me.
It was seven years after thatdecree that they finally burned

(30:41):
him alive.
Like what were they doing tohim all that time?
And you just said it torturinghim.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
They tortured him and , like I said, there's an office
, there's like a split and youyou refer to the monarchy and
those who control, like thefamilies that ruled over Europe
and really the world, the knownworld at the time it's referred
to as the Ancien Regime.
The ancient regime right.
These bloodlines and otherthings and the new offshoots,

(31:06):
and that's Novus Ordo Sorclorum,ladies and gentlemen, it's a
new order for the ages.
It's on your dollar bill.
Novus ordus or chloram, ladiesand gentlemen, it's a new order
for the ages.
It's on your dollar bill.
That's what the enlightenmentthat splinter.
You know where you haveself-governance and as opposed
to the monarchies, as opposed tothe king and um the, the french
revolution and I've spokenabout this many times like the

(31:27):
american revolution, my opinion,was a conservative revolt.
So that's the opposite of arevolution to make something
that never was.
The American Revolution wastrying to restore
self-governance, the Magna Cartathat had been in practice for
centuries in England, and theBritish Empire became an empire,

(31:48):
which is they becameimperialist, they started ruling
over their subjects.
They had colonies and thecolonists I forget.
I think it was Edward Gibbonwho wrote the Decline and Fall
of the Roman Empire.
He was like cautioning people.
He's like hey, do you realizehow many books the colonists
order?
They're very educated.
These are self-educated people.

(32:09):
They understand history, theyunderstand law and they have no
rights.
So the American Revolution was arestoration, in my opinion, if
you look at everything, becauseit wasn't a giant bloodletting,
whereas the French Revolutionand that's where I think in our
line of work, when you're inalternative media and you talk

(32:29):
about secret societies or ruleby secrecy, some of these
societies and some of theunderpinning of that is actually
pretty bloody.
Where you get the FrenchRevolution, it's totally
different.
They have the reign of terror.
They almost murdered ThomasPaine.
It was only by accident thatthe guy who wrote Common Sense
and the Rights of man wasn'tguillotined.

(32:49):
They put the wrong mark on hisdoor in the Bastille.
He was supposed to get his headchopped off, so they just
killed everybody.
They reset the churches, tookout all the relics, called it
the Church of Reason, theyreburied people and it's just
this giant bloodletting.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
One example I always give about this stark difference
, and Mark Levin, to his credit,has said this for a very long
time they couldn't have beenmore dissimilar, the two
revolutions.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
But he says it like that Shut up, you idiot.
He said it not give me adifference.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Johnny, our patriot.
He called you that.
I wish I could have thatrecording.
We need to put it as your voice.
But you have that famousdepiction of george washington
crossing the delaware rightright and that's associated with
the battle of trenton, and theconditions were astronomically
terrible.

(33:40):
I mean, an unprecedented numberof soldiers didn't even have
shoes and it's it's freezingoutside.
So they cross it.
They push these cannons formiles.
People who are writing about itlater said you could see like
the tracks of blood from theirfeet.
I mean they were verydetermined They'd been pushed
too far but anyways they won.
But all the German mercenarieswho were hired on behalf of the

(34:01):
British to fight, they let themgo.
The French would haveslaughtered them Right.
It's totally different than ourrevolution, the French
Revolution.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Totally different.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
I remember reading Tell of Two Cities.
I forget which chapter it wasback in high school.
I haven't read it since then.
But there's just one chapter Ithink is called the Grindstone.
It's just dedicated todescribing how they're
sharpening you know for theguillotine, basically sharpening
the blades for it.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, let's tell the story about Jacques de Molay.
Apparently and this you fastforward to 1789 plus 1790s.
It's the height of the FrenchRevolution and they're
guillotining everybody and theycut off the head of King Louis

(34:49):
XVI.
Supposedly someone ran from thecrowd and when his head fell
into the basket, they, he puthis fingers into the neck and
put, held his hand up and allthe blood running down his hand.
It says jacques de mole, thouart avenged yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
So like think about, the is the count of saint
germain.
He's still around.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
I told you royal family, but it's funny, you know
, will durant talks about thisthough too.
If you look at the 19th century,which was bloody, you know that
starts out.
You know the 18th of the 18thcentury, of the american
revolution, french revolution,birth of the illuminati, all the
rest, and then the 19th centuryof napoleon.
So you throw off these monarchs, you have these emperor, like

(35:33):
napoleon takes charge.
You have these revolutionsgoing on, all this bloodletting,
but at the end of every, aftereverything's exhausted, it
returns, the bourbon kings, theyall return, and will durant has
that famous line that they hadlearned nothing and forgotten
nothing, right?
So, basically, like equilibrium, until you have the bankers'
wars of World War, I really thecataclysm of the 20th century,

(35:56):
modern technology, all thatstuff.
So all this history plays intowhere we are right now, like
even, I mean, the shaping ofnations, the shaping of finance,
just how history is taught,everything.
So if you have a little bit ofthis, if you've enjoyed this
conference, because we talkabout, I mean, we're doing like

(36:18):
Well, I just wanted to say aboutit.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Lots of people are superstitious about these sorts
of things and I'm notsuperstitious, but I'm a little.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I knew you were going to say that I'm not
superstitious, but I'm a little.
I knew you were going to saythat I'm a little superstitious.
I love that line from theOffice.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
That's very good, very good, but yeah, that's when
these things really run thedanger of taking over.
Consuming you is when you lendtoo much credence to them, right
?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, I mean, things really only have the power that
you assign them, and that's thekey.
You know, none of these things.
There really isn't anythingsuch, in my opinion, as magic.
Um, it's kind of like arthur cclark talked about.
It's like any advancedtechnology would be
indistinguishable from magic.
So you have things liketechnology, but real to me, and

(37:03):
I've met gifted people and Iknow that it's just.
They have a very powerfulsubconscious mind which is your
gift from god.
So, like a lot of things thatyou assign value to, um, they're
not.
They're not magical in myopinion.
I think they're just.
That is the divine.
You know, you're recognizingthat there's a pattern in things
, whether you're talking about,you know, we you could call like

(37:25):
life on this planet, which, bythe way, reality, and I've been
as far as me being on the earth.
I'm almost 45.
I'll be 45 years old on the26th.
It is so strange that I made itthis far because I see stuff
and it's just like I know thatit's.
You know, I know that we're,that I'm still tethered to.

(37:48):
You know my timeline and I'velived this life, but everything
is surreal.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
We've talked about this many times.
I mean, I saw you over at yourfamily's house a couple of weeks
ago and just went.
Are you, do you think?
Are you getting the samefeeling that I do?
It's just, what are you doing?
You're doing it.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
No, I'm with you, man , especially as you get older
and you start tracing thingsback and how many years it was,
and well, it was this many yearsuntil I learned this, and it's
weird.
It makes you really carefullyconsider what you're doing with
your time, what you're doingwith your life, what purpose
there is or what purpose thereisn't.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well, that's the existential question and that
and why I want to have theseconversations.
You know I've been on radiosince 2013, and I just announced
earlier that I'm leaving alltraditional conservative talk
radio.
I reached the end game Likethere's nowhere to go.

(38:49):
Salem, right, yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I just what was it?
They just wanted to do that onetest, see.
If you float, refuse to play,said you're out here I think I
know where you're going withthis uh no, why is?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
this.
I think I know where you'regoing.
Um, no, I just, it is we.
We gotta bypass normal thoughtchannels, I think, to like get a
grasp on actually what'shappening, if that makes sense,
and I I was feeling boxed inlike there just wasn't.
The audience has changed andthe the makeup.
I learned a lot from radio.

(39:21):
I used to, like you.
We were talking about marklevin.
I used to follow mark levin onweeknights.
Down in san antonio there's astation called Freedom 1160.
I'd come on right afterwardsand learned a lot, but I'd
really prefer doing this show.
I mean, there's really this isour networks and we're not
constrained by time.
We just try to put together.

(39:43):
You know, I promise you, if youtune in today, you learn
something.
I mean, this is a lot of deepdive, history and fun.
This is the stuff I listen to.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, I learned some things.
Did you learn something Aboutmovies?

Speaker 2 (39:56):
I learned what you didn't know Like the movie seven
we're going to get to thecomments here.
If you guys have a comment oryou want to interject or have a
question, I'm going to go to thecomments on rock, fin and
rumble.
Uh, anything that's on Twitter,I'll get to that.
Uh, so be sure, and, and, uh,and, and join in.
We'd love to hear from you.
Uh, eventually, and I don'tknow if I need to have like a, a

(40:20):
return all this stuff that Ibought, this equipment we this
is funny we set this up and I'mlike it never properly works.
We try to do this with chrislast time and it was like an
echo in it or something, and Idon't know how they did that
episode.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I thought before we listened to it I can't be that
bad.
It's pretty bad.
It was real bad, yeah it wasreal bad.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
um, all right.
So 1307 folks, friday, the 13thOctober, jacques de Molay, the
Knights Templar, and that is nowsomething you can't unlearn.
So anytime that comes up andpeople give you some kind of pop
culture reference, it goes waydeeper than that and you're
supposed to think of that asthink about that.
You're supposed to think that'sunlucky.

(41:04):
Who put that in your head,right?
What faction put that as far asan unlucky?
I don't see it as an unluckyday for me.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Luck is what you make your own luck.
That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
All right, so I'm going to go to comments here.
Do you want to talk about thedrones?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, so I found a couple articles on Zero Hedge.
I sent too, but I'll admit it,I was dead wrong, I think, about
what these drones are.
I thought Grubhub was testing anew delivery service for Chris
Christie, but apparently it'sworse than that, Tony, I mean
that's not disproven.

(41:45):
That's not disproven.
It would take an army.
Gosh that guy.
Do you remember that one timehe got in that cubs fans face at
the baseball game?
I don't remember.
I think he was holding a bigsalad, but I bet if you went in
that salad, that decoy, youwould have found a bunch of hot
dogs.
Yeah, he's just yelling at thisguy I had a friend of mine he's
such an unlikable person.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
That story reminds me .
This is like this.
This is the fun stream ofconsciousness that you get on
Paratrooper when Mr Andersonjoins me.
I had a friend of mine I was inthe Army with and a super smart
guy.
His dad was a psychiatrist andhis older brother.
They were at the baseball gameand it was in Maryland.
They were at the baseball gameand Ted Kennedy Senator.

(42:28):
You know Ted Teddy he shows upand he's like two rows down from
him so they can see the back ofhis head.
There's Ted Kennedy there, andso anytime that the crowd would
get quiet, this guy's brotherwould just yell down there and
go, ted, what aboutChappaquiddick?

(42:51):
And like it's just embarrassingthe entire, like he's sitting
there drinking, you know that'swhat's so funny, though seven
dollar beers and, like you know,gets a little tipsy and just
kept and they finally had to.
They removed.
I think they got ted and movedhim, like moved him to another
place because he just kept doingit like well, didn't they?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
didn't?
They always refer to him as theline of the senate, right?
I always think of, like the,the cowardly line.
Oh, I love hecklers like that.
You're mentioning one to mewhen you went to the award show,
right a?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
year.
Oh yeah, the american libertyawards, wow about rudy giuliani
yeah, oh, man, man, there was.
There was a guy I hope I meethim again one of the funniest
people, unintentionally one ofthe funniest people I'd ever
seen in my life, because they,you know the american liberty
awards they they put up, youknow, they're like.
I think one of them was like,and every time they'd mention

(43:43):
trump they'd say and donaldtrump, and he go, he did the
vaccine, like and he would just,and he's a kid, like, he was
with a, he had a you know prettygirlfriend and she's mortified
and he's, you know, he's, he'stwo or three drinks in.
I'm sitting next to dr petermccullough and, by the way, that
that show people just keptpassing out like, like and and

(44:06):
you have peter mccullough, like,like administer help literally,
and people like we have a guyjust stand up and just fall over
and then so like suddenlypassing out, and then I look
over and it's hot in there.
You know, it was a little itwas august of 23 and, by the way
, the people that put that on isgreat folks and and rachel ray
and every you know, and frankcavanaugh and I I was the one of

(44:28):
the only sponsors.
I would sponsor it again, butit was funny because they were
just putting up nominations.
So people have been nominated.
They nominate Trump, theynominate Rudy Giuliani, so they
put up Best Legal Bulldog andthey put up Rudy Giuliani and
the guy next to me and he goes,he did 9-11.
And then I just looked at him,just kind of crack a smile and

(44:51):
look back and he looks at me andgoes right, you know, like he
just couldn't quite grasp, likethe entire.
I think they don't want you toyell at the stage at the
nominations, but the guy'sgirlfriend mortified and one of
the funniest things I've everseen in my life.
I don't know why did that makeme laugh?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
because it's so out of place.
But it's what you want toscream about, that.
I mean so the so many of thenominees like rudy giuliani, or
you're talking about trump.
It's like, what about all thebad things?
Are we going to hold them toaccount for any of the bad
things?

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I just so that guy he has the youngian archetype
trickster you gotta say it withthat canadian, you gotta I, you
gotta.
You gotta say it in a way youhave to, you have to really
bring yourself to that placewhere you're you're jordan

(45:45):
peterson, almost crying oh, just, I really like jordan peterson,
by the way, though he's.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
He's said a lot of things that have helped me.
He's a very smart guy, I likehim, but yeah uh, so this is uh
zero hedge.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
The new theory is that new york or new jersey
drone sightings may be nuclearsniffers.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Okay, following airmail, nyc radiation levels,
nuclear sniffers um, it camefrom a guy who is a founder of
an aerospace company thatspecializes in military drones.
So from my notes it's all inthe article.
By the way, his name is paulkrugman and he says that he knew

(46:30):
somebody who was in the higherechelons of government who said
a couple months ago they laidhands on a nuke that was in
ukraine, left over, I guess,from the um soviet era yeah, the
soviet era that was beingtransported here, and so he's
and lots of other people havesaid it there was some
supposedly RF engineer which isa little bit different than a

(46:52):
material physicist or somethinglike that named Jersey Futures,
who since deleted his account onX.
It's kind of confirming whatthis guy, paul Krugman, was
saying, which is basically thesedrones are so large.
One of the reasons they're solarge is because they have these
cryo coolers, and so the reasonyou have cryo coolers is there
are certain materials that theyuse for detecting certain colors
of light, and so if you'retalking about radiation from a

(47:15):
nuke, you're going to be moreinterested in things like gamma
ray stuff, so stuff that'sbeyond blue, like very far, like
much more energy.
Right, is a way to understandthat, and they use this material
called germanium, but forgermanium to be very effective
and actually notice thesesignals, you have to have a
large signal to noise ratio, andso, basically, if you cool

(47:38):
these materials down, that noisesimple way of explaining it
goes away.
But these cryo coolers arelarge.
You're talking about coolingthings down to not you know, way
below freezing with a vacuum onthem, and so he said that's.
Another reason that they'rehovering so low is they're
trying to detect trace amountsof this and apparently that

(47:58):
something like this happened in2019 and 20, where there are
these onslaught of drones thatwere seen around Colorado,
nebraska, which was pretty neara lot of the sightings a
Minuteman missile sight, Iremember this, and it's a
similar thing.
So that's what those drones aretypically used for and that's
why they're so large.
Another reason that they'relarge is because they have these

(48:20):
very large horn antennas, sofor millimeter wave comms back
and forth, and they kind ofstructure them in a grid so
they're communicating with eachother, almost acting like a
larger array of things.
Okay, but just because that'swhat they're used for doesn't
mean that's what they're doingright now, and so lots of people
think this.
That article does a much betterjob of explaining it than I am,

(48:44):
but it's just a PSYOP preparingus for things, because
apparently there is this FAAreauthorization act of 2018
that's set to expire December20th this year, and so they're
going to vote and convene forthis bill and try to get it to
pass very soon and it's kind ofone step above that.

(49:05):
So more surveillance for thesekind of unmanned aerial
surveillance drones and thingslike that.
So they're trying to stirthings up to spook people a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
I'm going to go out on a limb and say your synopsis
of that article was probably oneof the smartest, I think, in
podcasting, so you're going togive you a raise.
How so?
I've, I think, in podcasting,so I'm gonna give you're gonna
give you a raise.
How so?
I just thought this is this, isthis is why this is your, I
brought mr.
Anderson into this show as ascientist and I wouldn't have

(49:38):
been able to explain it that way, but I know you read the
article but you you obviouslydigested that in a way.
So let's go back to the nuclearsniffer thing.
So we talking about a nuke thatwas transplanted.
We're not talking about abroken arrow.
A broken arrow is thenomenclature for a nuclear

(50:00):
weapon that's fallen out of thehands.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I don't think so.
I think there will.
Maybe I don't know.
Usually they would usesomething like this at a large
port to sniff out dirty bombs orsomething like that.
So that's why New Jersey wouldbe one, new York City would be
another.
Apparently, a lot of people.
There's this site called GeigerCounter World Map and the

(50:22):
counts are up.
So what does that mean?
A count?
So it's like counts per minuteof things associated with
nuclear weapons, elements thatare radiatively decaying, that
you can detect.
So it's up.
But even when you see thesenumbers, it's like what do they
mean?
Like if you gave me a granitecountertop and a Geiger counter,
I'd say it's up.
So they don't put a lot ofthese numbers into perspective.

(50:46):
But apparently in New York Citythe numbers, compared to where
they usually are, are elevated,and that helps lend some
credence to the idea that theymight be trying to sniff out
where one of these things are.
I don't really believe it.
I think it's just a bunch ofsmoke and mirrors.
It's a psyop to get everybodyriled up.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
And there was another article before the one that I
sent you.
So what is that new bill called?
It's called Counter UASAuthority Security, safety and
Reauthorization Act of 2024.
Just in time to reauthorizeOrwellian law.
Yes, that was the original oneI came across a couple of days
ago.

(51:26):
So increased surveillancebecause, again, the one that was
passed in 2018 set to expireand then, all of a sudden, you
see all of this and peoplemaking a commotion, a fuss about
it.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
It's multifaceted, and when I say I'm going to give
you a raise, I mean I'm goingto get you headphones with both
speakers.
Okay, nothing but the best youpromise.
I can't even use my headphones.
You're going to get twospeakers.
We're going to start with that.
Take care of the troops.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
It's phones.
You're gonna get two speakers.
We're gonna start with thattake care of the troops.
Uh, like he smacked me in theface, like my phone around just
cover your eye.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Um, now, that's interesting.
I obviously these areoperations that are deep state
in nature shadow government.
Um, you kind of go back to tomclancy's writings, the sum of
all fears, like that's ascenario East Coast, a nuke
that's loosed, you knowsomething like that, and they

(52:22):
could be setting the stage foreven something as bizarre as
like a false flag that wasstopped, and then we have to
investigate how that it got here, which would create that.
Never happens.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Right, like even Kirby was saying he goes y'all
need to exercise some commonsense.
If there was a real threat,we'd send F-35s out there to
investigate.
I was like, yeah, like you didon 9-11.
I'm sure you would.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
So on the ball, yeah, Literally letting millions of
people crawl across our borderwe don't know who the hell they
are with all sorts ofbackgrounds, and you know I mean
with criminal intent Not all ofthem, but obviously a big chunk
.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
It could be something to hamstring the incoming
administration too.
I mean the timing, just look atthe timing.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
It's very convenient for what was mentioned about
what they're going to try topass fairly soon and then the
incoming administration it justarrogance of the ruling class
and those in charge right nowand that will continue to be in

(53:36):
charge, like the embedded, thecontinuity of the deep state.
These people are nuts.
I mean, they're firingBritish-made and American-made
missiles.
By the way, this is the firsttime this has ever happened,
folks.
I mean I know that I don't havea teleprompter in front of me
and I didn't go to an Ivy Leagueschool so I could properly
write an article for the Councilon Foreign Relations, but I

(53:58):
happen to know something.
No, nothing like this has everhappened.
If you know anything about theCold War, we always fought proxy
wars.
No nation that has ever held onthat had nuclear weapons held
on, that had nuclear weapons Ifthey had nuclear weapons in
their possession.
No nation state has ever beenattacked by another nation state

(54:25):
with nuclear weapons.
And that Rubicon was crossedweeks ago.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
We'd be fired really quickly.
But I'm not pro-Putin oranything like that, but I think
they've demonstrated atremendous amount of restraint
with you know the pipelines andeverybody knew we did it or we
were a part of it then we blewit up ourselves yeah, everybody
knew that.
What?
Just to escalate the situation?

(54:50):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
yeah, kubono, who benefits?
You know?
Just ask the question like what?
How does r Russia benefit fromit?
Sabotaging itself?
Right, not really, by the way.
Those kind of false flags dohappen, but not in the context
of what was going on.
In what was that?
2022 into 2022?
Yeah, absolutely, and they wantyou to buy this stuff and, yeah
, the great restraint.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
And even with this reauthorization act.
I mean, you kind of touched onhow I felt Okay, don't vote for
it.
Let's say a majority, do not.
We're just going to dosomething anyways and then blame
you for it, like if these arethe monsters in charge who are
pulling all the strings.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Well, they definitely .
You got to go back to somethinglike Operation Northwoods.
All right, this was the JointChiefs of Staff under Kennedy.
Kennedy absolutely said this isI don't know what you all are
even thinking Like, he shot thatdown really quickly, but that
was, that was the precursor towhat you would see on 9-11.
I mean, northwoods was and itwas authorized by the Joint
Chiefs of Staff.

(55:49):
The only reason you know aboutit is because they did a data
dump in 1994 following the filmby Oliver Stone, jfk, and there
was a big push to declassifydocuments.
They just happened to get inthe data dump where back in 1962
, cuban Missile Crisis era theyhad the Joint Chiefs set up an
operation, again Northwoods,where they were going to hijack

(56:11):
aircraft.
They would do it remotely, theywould make it look like it was
the cubans.
Then they would fire bomb orbomb places in florida and
elsewhere, basically creating afly it into buildings, like they
had the whole thing like laidout and it was something that
you would see later in.
And you know modern operationsand you know modern operations

(56:32):
and you know false flag eventsand so we know that to be true
and again, you're the samepeople that they're firing.
Us and British made long rangemissiles from Ukraine.
You know T-shirt man's pushingthe buttons and they're sending
them into sovereign Russianterritory.
That's absolutely insane.
You don't have to be arussophile or love Russia or

(56:54):
anything like you, just look atthat and go, wow, we have no
off-ramps for peace.
It's absolutely maddening.
When we were young, they usedto have things called summits
and there was like you hadmeetings, and they don't even do
that anymore.
So I think these people arepsychopathic.
They want a war and hopefullycooler heads prevail, like this

(57:16):
country.
We've got some real issues withthat ilk.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, I don't know what the new administration will
do.
One of the other articles isnot worth looking at in its
entirety.
It's really just a you know, asimple summary in the headline.
But Matt Gaetz is starting ashow on One American News and it
just made me laugh that Ithought here he was and he was
going to be on a special councilor lead some special council to

(57:42):
investigate all these nefariousactors, and it's like no, he's
the new Liz Wheeler.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Is he going to do it live from the Truman Show house?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
That's where I got Chris.
He didn't know that that's true, yeah, chris didn't.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
That's where I got Chris.
He didn't know that that's true, yeah, yeah, chris didn't.
That's the one thing Chrisdidn't know and she framed that.
It's all in my refrigerator.
She framed the transcript.
It might be one of the lastones you get.
All right, let me go to thecomments real quick.
Yeah, I just.
I mean, we'll keep covering thedrone deal, but that is
something that's going on.
Let's go to rockfincom.
All right, I saw this comment.

(58:17):
It's from Annika.
What's your last name, annika?
See if you can get that namethere.
Mr Anderson, you see that lastname, annika Smith.
Can you do that?

Speaker 1 (58:34):
I can't see it.
It's kind of a glancing angle.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
I just don't want to mispronounce it.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Chess wheel Okay.
You made me mispronounce it.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
That's why he's going to get a headphone.
I get another raise she saidand she's talking about the the
shirt that I wore on um tinfoilhat said I love your verginia
t-shirt, mr tony, uh, a greekamerican from both byzantine man

(59:09):
, you have to man you.
It's hard for me to to read theuh and that you're trying to
like break down cyrillic too andlike.
That's where it all goes down.
So I'm terrible at this, but shetalked about my shirt.
It's the Verghina Sun and Ilooked up the sign and seal of
Alexander the Great and Ithought that would be a cool

(59:29):
shirt to wear.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
I thought you were going to wear the black sun.
No, thank you, mr Andersonerson.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Thank you thank you so much.
I appreciate that.
That's uh for immortalizing me.
Um, but thank you, anna, thatreally means a lot.
Um, that's a rocky usa evening.
Tony, mr and Amanda King.
Yay, finally caught a live one.
Can we get Paratrooper t-shirts?

(59:59):
And that's from Amanda King.
Yes, you can we have aParatrooper t-shirts and it
should be live to get before theholiday.
I'm trying, but I do have them.
If you want to email me yoursize and would you like one, we
can send you a picture and getthat out to you.
I'm just working on theshopping cart.
We have Rocky USA.

(01:00:20):
Dustin Helm is in the chat.
I appreciate everybody.
You know these are coolconversations to have and what a
great crew.
Yeah, we want to do these showslike more often.
Billy's coming up soon, billyRay Valentine with his program.
That'll be live in about 25minutes.

(01:00:42):
So we're going to get off herein a second.
But I just wanted to recognizethe chat and I'm working on my
equipment here so I can actuallyread your comments and this is
not as easy as it looks, so I'mlike on my laptop broadcasting.
But, yeah, thank you so much.
Um, let's see.
Yeah, we got some good chatover at rocky usa 33 he likes mr

(01:01:06):
anderson.
I get more comments on mranderson like hey, you might
like tony, but you'll love mranderson.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
I'm like hmm, well, people are like that, guy can do
it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Is it just you?
Are you hyping over there?
Hey, shut that old guy up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Give him a raise and a set of headphones.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Fun episode and we'll be back next week live 4 pm
Usually it's about 4 pm, isabout uh 4 pm central time, 5 pm
eastern, and I have some showsplanned uh for the year.
That'll be kind of like this wewon't be live, though we'll um,
mr anderson and myself we'regonna do some deep dives and
have some guests on.
We're working on the studio.
As you can see, um and uh, it'sgonna be 2025.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
We're gonna have a lot of podcasts going on yeah,
we haven't done a real deep divein a long time, so that'll be
good.

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Yes, we should do a goodChristmas one.
We should do one.
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Maybe I may do a live stream.
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Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Yeah Next time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Headphones, proper mic.
I'm going to do everything.
We put it together, though, soI appreciate all of you and take
care of each other and, in theinformation war, be a
paratrooper.
See you next time.