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February 17, 2024 60 mins

Welcome to The Awaken Podcast, hosted by Natasja Pelgrom. Join us on an exploration of profound topics encompassing self-discovery, conscious leadership, and personal growth. After a brief hiatus, Natasja returns with fresh insights and a renewed sense of purpose.

Through solo episodes and engaging discussions, we'll embark on a journey that blends ancestral wisdom with modern self-leadership principles. You'll uncover valuable tools to navigate life's complexities, embrace moments of stillness, and work towards manifesting your dream life.

Natasja's guiding quote, "The work is rewarded by the gifts you receive in silence," sets the tone for this transformative season. In this episode, Natasja embarks on a deep dive with Jeanine Souren a clinical psychologist and co-founder of the Experiential Training Institute  exploring the topic: 'Psychedelic Treatment, and the Insights from Therapeutic Landscapes' Join us for a profound exploration  on The Awaken Podcast.

Meet Jeanine Souren
She is a clinical psychologist and sexologist with specialities in trauma, couples and families. She is the co-founder of Experiential Training Institute and also runs a private practice where she works with international clients, offering regular as well as psychedelic assisted sessions.

In this episode Jeanine discusses:

  • Journeying as a therapist into psychedelic treatment.
  • The mindset needed to navigate the diverse mental landscapes.
  • No matter how much you prepare someone, it's always a unique experience.
  • Preparation and integration as a holistic process, encompassing goals and values.
  • Utilizing constellation work alongside psychedelic facilitation.
  • Comparing MDMA and Psilocybin: different types of facilitation for different contexts.
  • Contrasting group therapy with individual sessions in psychedelic work.
  • Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) is not always suitable for psychedelics.
  • Addressing the theme of "Nothing happened" in psychedelic experiences.
  • Recognizing the importance of set and setting, including family dynamics.
  • Exploring the potential for deepening connections through psychedelic experiences.
  • Providing psychedelic practitioner training for academic professionals.
  • Integrating rites of passage into personal work for space holders and practitioners, while witnessing clients' experiences.
  • Incorporating psychedelic therapy into family and couples therapy, including intimacy and sexual therapy.


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