S03E13 The Vogel Brothers and Brandy Samson- Boots on the Ground Investigation and Evidence Found!

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Good morning, Welcome to Banter with Richie Bee Live.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
These hots yep, there was something going on.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Here behind us after the trees were fucking moving everywhere. Yeah,
bro goosebumps mad at you with me? We looked this way.
It was not like this. Welcome to Banter with Richie Bee. Yo.

(00:44):
What's up everybody? Oh? Yeah, that's Riady back. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
We sit for a while.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh I'm live. Look at that? Say hi, won't.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
What's up everybody? What's happening? Walk with the banter? Would
Richie be live? Why?

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Top?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Hey? Listen? Complete buckery with technology all of a sudden.
I don't know what it is. It could because we
got ghost girl backstage messing with things. I don't know
all that vibe, you know what I mean. Something's going on.
Something's going on. Wojo's having trouble with his phone, and
I'm trying to upload the new commercial that we are
going to premiere tonight on this show right now. Oh,

(01:40):
let's see. Oh, I don't know. I don't know if
he wants to. Oh, I don't know if Wojo's in
and on? Should we check and say hi with Wojo?
Hang on? Should I just keep talking without him for
a little while. Let's let him think that he's still broken.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Don't do him.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
He's not in a good mood.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
Let's see, well, Joe, yo, yo yo, what's happened to everybody?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Hey, I'm back, I'm on and we at home with
a ball would have budged something out? Yeah, yeah, no,
Ronald has nothing to do with that. Thank you, sir.
That's very nice. Here, you're we're not boomers, boomers, the
generation before you, buddy, it's before us, bud. We're not boomers. Okay,

(02:28):
we're not even boomer kids. So shut up, good up.
Let's say hello to everybody except Ron and get this
show started because we got to kick ask yo. Tonight
an absolute insane show. I will go over everything that's
gonna take place tonight after we say hello to everybody
except Ron. Did I emphasize that enough? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
My friend?

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Wow, look at people I don't know? Are they I
don't really see.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
A lot of people, Ron cast, Damien, Yeah, experience.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
A lot more. I'm telling you, something's wrong. Something is
going on today. We did do a live today. They
had over two thousand people viewing. By the way, if
you miss that though, well that's just on you all. Right,
and we actually have a video from the game camera
tonight we're gonna share with you. Guys, we're gonna analyze
it together. So if you are not on this show tonight,

(03:24):
boohoo you you've made a mistake.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
And of course, Big Daddy Andy, Hey buddy.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
I'm gonna say hi, chill out, man, what are you
the boss? Now?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Oh no, we covered everybody because it's like a weird day.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Dude, what a wacky day? All right? So as I
as I say, hello, Big Andy, welcome to the show.
How's that? Did I do good? Co host? Did I
do good? You're late dude? And as soon as he
did it, you knew what was gonna happen because this
guy was gonna jump right on you.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh yeah, rocking Ron.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I took care of it.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I took care yeah, boy by let's see Damien's here
and what's up, Damien.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Let's go on.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
My friend from Scotland, Bye Bud Scotland, the one the
only Jean.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Tewksbury JT in the Hiszy.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Wow, that was quick JT in the Hiszy. Huh.

Speaker 6 (04:40):
Yeah, she's been busy, a lot of Bobcat sightings everywhere.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, well, listen. They knew, they knew she was around,
and they knew. They knew as soon as she came
on the show, they knew what was up. And they're like, oh,
she's on the bank, she's on the band to Richie
b Show. We all ought to show our faces and
make put her to work, you know what I mean? Yeah, boy,
Martin's here all the way from New Hampshire.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Brother has Hampshire all the way from Texas?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Do?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Who is in the house? Hello?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Do?

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Who Ah?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
This year is the one of the only the Texas Twister.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, so listen, a couple of things I gotta get
to because I've been being responsible and writing things down
I'm supposed to say on my show. It's a new
Richie Bee. Is this amazing? Aren't you proud of me?
I'm shocked? Yeah, well that too. But anyways, but the
first thing we're gonna do is we're gonna explain tonight's
show to you, Okay, myself, The Woejoe, Ghost Girl, Slash

(05:40):
Brandy and the Vogel brothers Tim and Eric came down
from Western Over and down from Western mass and they
went into our research area with us. Eric second time,
Tim's first time, and I'm gonna tell you, man, it
has been. It was. It was a feel good, epic

(06:01):
type episode, right, like I don't know, it just felt good, man,
it was. All the vibes were just amazing, you know
what I mean. Like I came out of there like
buy it up? Right? I think we all did. Everybody.
We came back to the house. We have pizza and coffee.
Oh de wood.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
I do not know.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'd have to look at the analytics. That's an interesting question.
You did take a lot of people out of there.
I'll tell you that there was a yelling in the woods.
Yeah who Yeah, I was. I was a little pissed
about that one comment. I didn't really like that at all.
All right, So Eric, I see you, Tim, I see you.
Everybody Sit tight. We have the crew from that investigation

(06:42):
here tonight. Because I it was such a top notch
investigation that I felt that we had to put something
together as fresh and possible as we as fast as
we could in order to have the conversation about what
took place and and you know, just kind of go

(07:03):
over like you know, what research should be right and
how you should research and it's not that we're writing
the book on it. I'm not saying that. What I'm
saying is that we got along. We had different views,
we treated each other with respect. We had great conversation,

(07:26):
great dialogue, even you know, debate, respectfully debated things. It
was awesome. We had the Devil's Advocate, you know, back
and forth. It just it led to so many more
things and only validates my theory on that. Okay, it
was awesome. So but first I want to mention the

(07:48):
new Richie b That's right, Jim, Doc Realm TV. Baby.
We are worldwide on doc Realm TV, which means you
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Because Doc Realm TV is where Wojo's Frozen, where Fear

(08:12):
lives he is. You got to check out Doc Realm
TV everybody and stay tuned. By the way, we have
the world premiere of a very new commercial. We're going
to advertise with a commercial. I wanted a commercial. I
said something to our amazingly talented miss Sam from Sam's
Pretty Paranormal, our producer okay, who now is flying to

(08:37):
Las Vegas to get her diploma for doing what she
loves and that's creation, digital creation. So she we want
to congratulate her and send our love on our very
best and save travels police. She made a commercial. I
said something. I wanted a commercial, Sam. What do you
think about that?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Oh, I'm on it.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Check it out. You know, just amazing, just talent. The
talent is crazy with her.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
But you all think about it. By the way, I'm
gonna go on the craps table.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Oh it was that supposed to be Sam. That was
a horrible Sam impression.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Horrible it was.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
It was so bad. There was nothing you just whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I but you that, Sam? Sorry, I know you're up
there flying.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Sorry yep. Ron Ron likes to come on my show
and ridicule me and insult me the whole time. That's
what that. That's what ron Ron gets his favorite pizza, right,
He hides from his hurricanes and he gets on banter
Richie beat his ship on me. That's what he does.
Thank you love you.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Teen two Fairy says, can't wait to hit what you
guys found and did in the rece I got a
couple of things sitting right over here that we found.
That's all I'm gonna say about that right now. So
you shut out to Sam from Sam's Pretty Paranormal, You're
right to you. Congratulations man, much love never never enough
love for her. But right now I want to play

(10:02):
something for my buddy. You owns a local tap room,
and I thought it was cool and fitting for our
show obviously, and it's got no sound because the monetization thing.
He has a song that plays with it. I didn't
add any to it. I could probably play music while
it plays, but I'm not going to get weird on you.
So it's called Here we Go. This is called forty

(10:27):
second Brew Company, Kingston, Massachusetts. Now watch here comes wait
for her. Oh yeah, who's that guy? Locals drink like
a local. Locals light from forty second Brew Company coming soon.
Merch too her pretty good? Right there? You go check

(10:49):
it out. Believe it's it says seventy seven Summer Street
is where it's located in Kingston, So make sure you
go over there and check that out. If you're in
the local area, please you tell a Banta with Richie
b said, you won't get you anything good. It'll probably
cost you more for a bit, but still just say it. Oh,
where are we here? We are? So we got all
that done? Right? How about we bring up our guests

(11:12):
and we go out we talk about Sam's commercial, right,
because we're gonna talk about the Chime and Fair Farm. Right.
Charm and Fair Farm is June twenty first and twenty
second in New Hampshire. I'm the MC of that. You're
with me, you're the co host, so you're you're you're
the MC squid. How's that pretty good?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Right?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
You like that? You say I did that? Run get
on him. He knows I love him. Don't let him
fully stop him. We broke up years ago alone. And
the other thing is you gotta remember too. We got
a merch store out there with actual banter Richie B
quotes now and they're pretty cool shirts which I haven't
seen in the QS section. I have to go into
the store to see. We have to upload him in

(11:48):
the re stream, I guess, and put him in here
so we can see him. So we'll do that for
next week. But right now, if let's see let me
let me throw this up for a minute. That's the
Merchy store q Waco. Please feel free to check out
the shirts we got kids shirts, we got collectible stickers,

(12:08):
we got the Wojo says boom, zip up. And now
we have Richie b big book that says, that's right,
your back to you, Bob. That's like baby. That was
a gift from the Wojo in Miss Jessica. Jessica's doing
very well. And not only that, I want you guys
to watch coming in May, my amazing fiance. I like

(12:33):
saying it like that, Miss Jessica. She is opening in
her own online store. So I'm gonna announce it now,
but we'll have you'll see the premiere of it on
the twenty fourth, which is Jack, you know, on Jack's birthday.
I mean twenty fourth, That's not true, the twenty fourth

(12:53):
of this month. I forgot what month I was in.
It's April, right, yeah, it April. So come in this
week you'll see there's a store coming out. It's dedicated
to Deck and I'm gonna probably let her tell you
more about that, but just keep an eye out for that.
It's all about infante death and and different things like

(13:15):
that and how to deal with it. And you know,
it's therapeutic for her to do. And she sits down
and she makes amazing designs and puts on the inner
daughter KK jumps in and does her helps out too,
and it's just a great form of therapy, just sitting
there creating. So so keep an eye out for that.
We'll announce that as we go forward. Let's bring up
our guests. Ladies first, Let's see ladies first. I do it,

(13:40):
I do it. Hey, I got him, I got him good.
Tim knows that one. That's why I did try it
on toast Gone. Now hellics somewhere ish pots of non

(14:09):
ish ghost girl.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Ghost that welcome on the show.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Let's get running along something like that. Thank you for
being here. We're gonna bring up the Vogels because I
gotta tell you, man, that investigation we had was insane
and it was so fun, and the chemistry between us
all was just so it was magic. I just was

(14:40):
on a high for days and I still kind of am.
So let's bring up the Vogels here. Let's see, I'm
gonna let's bring up Yeah, let's bring up Tim. Hey,
Tim Vogel, Why why did you say Tim and Eric
on your thing? You didn't you change you name to
Tim and Eric?

Speaker 8 (14:56):
Hey, that's what it is, That's what it is okay,
you actually do something else tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Oh, I guess you do. Okay, Okay, Tim, that's all everybody,
Tim and Eric with just Tim and now and now
Eric she is with there girl.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
Hey yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Let's see what we got. Welcome everybody to banter, Richie b.
It's good to have all of you. I'm very excited
to have this conversation because we had an amazing investigation
and we're gonna get into it further. But we're gonna
play Sam's commercial first. I want you guys to see.
It's gonna premiere right here worldwide, baby, and I just

(15:49):
think it's I think it's such an awesome commercial. And
then we're gonna talk about that awesome investigation. So without
any further ado, everybody just sit tight. Let's see. I'm
going to bring up the commercial. Let's see. Make sure
it's on the right line. I want to make sure
it's at the beginning the commercial for Banta with Richie Bet.

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Speaker 1 (17:50):
I love you, baby Jack. I want you guys to
keep climbing. I love you, mama. Or just going to
get his out of here because that's what he does.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yes on the phone, let's go, whoa baby, dude is?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
That is?

Speaker 8 (18:26):
That's crazy?

Speaker 5 (18:27):
That's all right, dude.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
She one out of percent nailed it, like this just
a vision. And we even had a meeting after she
was done with her first her first uh like rendition
of it and then and then like we just had
a conversation. Wasn't like oh you need to add this.
We were just talking and and Wojo cut was like,
oh what if we did this? And we're just we're

(18:51):
just to Yahoo saying ship we don't even know as possible.
So we're just like, you know what I mean, And
Sam's like Sam's like, oh yeah, oh that's a great idea.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Twenty minutes later it's done, you know what I mean.
I'm like, oh my god, she did it. She really
did it. And then to see it, it was like,
oh my god, that's exactly what we've been envisioned. It
was like she did it.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
She's amazing.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
She's an amazing talent, right, and she's so dedicated, in
loyal and part of the family. And it's just like,
you know, we all we all get off the we
all get off like the restream together after a me
and we're like love you man, good, I love you too.
All right later, you know what I mean. It's just
like it's just like such a good vibe. Man, It's
just such a good vibe. And that's and and that
that kind of helps me kind of slide right into

(19:35):
the investigation because that's what we had the day in
the woods. Was that good vibe, right, guys, like right,
Brandy like the vibe.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
It was intense. It was sore and.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Brandy the other one I kind of want to start
with because we're all kind of old veterans at this right,
especially those two on the bottom.

Speaker 10 (19:51):
Holy shit, hey guys, yeah, those guys, those guys were
those guys were researching dinosaurs. Yeah, yeah, a bigfoot sores
back then.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
But no, but it was I mean from your from
your point of view. Let's just get right into it.
And I got some visual stuff that I didn't I
didn't bust out all the pictures and upload the pictures.
But I have those two lovely things sitting right over there,
dry and gentlemen. But we talked about it's not gonna
be well, no, completely bust them off. I'm just afraid
to because the vocals. Don't you touch or I'll kill you,

(20:29):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
You can check them now, you can check them see
if they're drying yet.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Pretty rush them off in a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
We're gonna I'm gonna pull them out and and kind
of show everybody what we found in the woods. And
then we have that.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Then we have that footage.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
From our camera game camera from what two nights ago,
and I've looked it over. I've looked at it over
a hundred times in different variations and and different saturations
and different contrasts and different filters and and all these
different things, and I Wow, you'll see what I mean

(21:08):
in a minute.

Speaker 8 (21:08):
Yeah, that's definitely uh interesting.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
We will Well, let's we'll get to that video. Slow down, now,
let's get to the rookie. Let's get to the rookie now. Brady,
am I am I safe in saying that that was
your Well, you went out with Wojo and I two
days prior, Yeah, and helped us set up the gift
and chair again after it was you found your snow No,
your snowballs was the second time, because you put your

(21:36):
snowballs the first time, right, Yes, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
The snowballs were the first time because I I wanted
to try a little experiment to see if the marshmallow
would help.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Us out a little bit. Right, Fingerprints and stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Right and doesn't like snowballs. I love, I love, I love,
I love them all. I mean, that's that's you know,
that's why I'm on That's why I'm on a diet pill. Anyways,
that's besides the point. So my question to you is
when you when you first go out there and you've
done paranormal investigations, right, yeah, right, and that's kind of

(22:10):
your thing because you know your ghost girl. So when
you go out into the woods like this, in that
particularly in the research area that we're in, how do
you feel when you get out there? Like what do
you are you looking around? Are you listening? Are you
doing both? Like? What are you trying to take in?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (22:25):
Well, the first thing going out and having this be
like my first investigation, like squatching, I had to shut
off like the paranormal, the ghost side, because just being
on those grounds, it was like being bombarded by Native
American spirits, extra trestrial stuff.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
There was there's tons on this land.

Speaker 7 (22:45):
But walking into it, the second I would say I
stepped out of the vehicle, it was like.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Intent. It was very welcoming too for me.

Speaker 7 (22:59):
I could feel it right off the bat and the
second we were walking in just like two minutes to
the left. There was my first experience where it went
completely calm, and all I could say was that I
saw the trees. It was like something was excited that
we were there and like rushed past us and just
bent the trees in and nothing else moved, and you

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could just feel it and see it, and that was
a way to start.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I was like, Oh, my god, is incredible. It's heavy too.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
It's very heavy for someone like me that's extremely sensitive.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it's funny because I get
that sometime and Woojo and I obviously been doing research
together by ourselves most of the time, and I'll be like, oh,
my chest is heavy, Like I could feel the different
energies in there on the different days, and I get that.
You know, so people that I'm sensitives are not used
to that conversation. It sounds strange or weird or whatever

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the case might be, but you you really have to
live it to understand it in a sense and or
believe it is that that's what we feel. Because it's hot,
you can't really, I can't take it and throw it
at you and let you wear it. You know what,
I mean, but when you when you do wear it,
it's real. It's palatable. As I say, right, I guess
it's a good good term for it.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
You know. Listen, all I have to say is I
ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
When I went in, because I've never done any bigfoot research,
I had, like you know, we all have like that
little bit of like hesitant, like is this real? You know,
But the second I stepped on the ground and I
had that experience in the two days of being with
you guys, it this stuff is real and they are real,

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and it's like, it's incredible.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
It's a blessing.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
It's an honor to be out there, to have them
communicate back, it's you.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Know, yeah, no, I think I think it's key too
to have people from different walks of life, right, and
different experiences throughout life, you know, and and to have
people you know, you got to be first of all,
you've got to be grounded, right. You can't run around
and just say everything's big foot. You just can't do that.
That's that's one thing I learned that very young into

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this because I was just like okay, what I was
more like, what is happening? Like, what is happening. Like
I couldn't believe the noise my woods were making, you
know what I mean, Like, I'm like, what is that?
What is that? What is walking around at eleven o'clock
and like snapping trees? I know, my woods. You can't
just walk out there, you know what I mean. There's
no headlamps, there's no flashlights, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
So yeah, I got a quick question though for ghost Girl.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
Ghost Girl, when you when you're in the woods and
you know, being a fan watching on you know, on
TV and what have you. Now you're out in the woods,
how how would you explain like in just one, you know,
one or two words to the folks out there that.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Finally being in these woods with us and.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
It's real life being there.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Was just.

Speaker 7 (26:06):
Saying was like, you have to be here to like
truly like feel it watching you guys. You guys do
amazing shows, but to be there, there's no there's no
experience like it.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
You just have to you have to at least do
it once.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
Like I I've had a permanent high since I've been
on those grounds.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
It's you know, yea.

Speaker 8 (26:30):
Now, this is the Bridgewater Triangle right on that ground
is within the triangle.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, so that that area. I'm sorry not to cut
you off, that area sometimes becomes debated. So since you
brought it up, that area sometimes becomes debated because it's
supposedly on the edge of the triangle. But my thing
about the triangle is that again the name, and I'm
grateful that they brought it up, let's put it that way.

(27:00):
I just don't think it was from somebody that's not
from there, so they don't know there. So to me,
if you name something, you know, the Plymouth Triangle, you know,
maybe all of Plymouth should be in it. I'm just
saying that's just me so that area.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
But you can make a point now.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
But I just wanted to point that out that that
area is of debate because it's on the edge, is
what they say. It's yeah, but it's right. But but
my point is, and me and many other researchers have
had this conversation about the triangle, the triangle should be
much broader, you know. And and again, if you're gonna

(27:37):
name it after a town, you should probably have the
whole town in there. That's that's just all I'm saying,
you know what I mean, It's like, you know, I
don't know, it's just kind of weird to me. But yeah,
the energy there is I think was your point, Tim, Sorry.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's within you know, within that area.
I don't think they were picking and choosing. I don't
believe fences were involved or anything like that. Yeah, right,
you know, in the amy, it was probably within the
scope of those boundaries. Those things were said. So this year,
that there, and that there, and that's that, and now
we've got so many more things that have happened, and

(28:11):
it broadened that triangle. Uh, you know, is it maybe
something to be talked about in the cryptid world? Broaden
the trio?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Maybe?

Speaker 8 (28:20):
But I'm sure that when I believe Lauren had coined
that term, I think it was Lauren Coleman. Yeah, you know,
it was probably within those parameters at that given time.
And so today it's just take it for what it's worth.
I say, it's you know, close enough. I wouldn't even
consider it, you know. The energy is the thing.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Right right, and I don't consider it anything. But and
it's like it's like they say, there's a lot of UFOs,
I do there right, a lot of sightings in the
Bridgewater triangle. I'm like, well, how the do you think
the UFO got that just came straight down to the triangle. No,
he comes in and out of the triangle, don't he.
I mean, I mean there's a good chance, right, I mean,
there's probably a good chance he flew on one side,

(29:04):
hit the triangle. Everybody sorry, and he flew on the
other side. And then they started somewhere else. So settle down,
you know what I mean. But so that's that's my point.
And and and again I'm grateful that it was even
talked about, and I'm grateful that I happened to purchase
a home you know, in it, you know what I mean.
And grateful I've had my experiences and the beautiful pot

(29:25):
about this area of research, Brandy. And you didn't get
a chance to get over to the property, but that
we got to the research area that we're in that
you stood in because of my property and following structures
and following activity and then and reading a map and
trying to figure out ways they would get to different places.
And we went to like five places before we got

(29:47):
to there. I kept saying, we got to get into that,
we got to get into there, And oh, I think
I dude, just pull right in. I'm like, I don't
know if we can do that. You know, remember that
conversation which you know what I mean, like when we
were kind of picking it up hot. So in my
my my thing is this. During that investigation, I saw
two things change, right, well, I saw I saw a

(30:10):
new person come in. You know, I'm gonna I ask
this question for I'm sorry, I'm jumping around attle bit.
Damien has a question. I don't want to be remissed
it how much does the location energy different from ghost
hunting to sassy hunting since your energy is alien to
the area, does it rub off kind of like goosebumps
type of failing Brandy?

Speaker 7 (30:27):
Yeah, it was definitely a different experience because of the
nature of it and the beings that are around it.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Was it was it was definitely way different, Damien.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, And and Claude asked about me.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I have to say, actually it was.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
It was more intense than Do.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
You think that's because and I feel the same way.
That's you got me asking a question. Now, do you
think that's because it's of the earth and of the
spiritual world?

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Because I could kind of feel both. Right, you feel
your feet as much as you can feel it in
you're hot and soul. I mean, it's just it covers
all boundaries, I guess, and all all elements of your body.
Everybody has to remember one thing, A proven scientific fact
is that we are energy. That's a proven scientific fact.
That's just no doubt about it. I mean, we carry
electricity with us. It's just the way it is. I'm sorry, say.

Speaker 8 (31:22):
Good, that's how we work.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I mean, you can see Eric doesn't have much of
it right now, but you know what I mean. It's
kind of twenty v but you know, we have to
understand that. And it's perfectly plausible that we're dealing with
an entity or creature or a primitive human or whatever

(31:46):
is that's on a different frequency. And I don't think
that's a crazy thing to say, you know what I mean.
So when you're on a different frequency, much like a
psychic or medium, whether you believe or not, I've experienced them.
I believe, and that that's up to you to determine
it for yourself. They operate off of different frequencies. Since
it's sensitive. People like Brandy and I we offerate. We

(32:07):
operate off of different frequencies. Why can't a prival him
human being operate off a different frequency and have different abilities.
So that's kind of like the wu that we talked
about last week, and it's the same same thing here.
And and like Brandy just brought up, you know, it's palatable.
You could feel it in every different way and I
agree with that. And even Wojo, someone that that doesn't

(32:29):
have those sensitivities, has gone in and ooh the energy
is different today and everybody's heard him say that right
on YouTube live. So it's not that that's you know,
I'm gonna get Eric involved here because he's sitting back chilling.
Is he away? Oh? There someone holding a mirror under
his nose? Please? Yeah? But for somebody that's that's you know,

(32:52):
talked about bigfoot, uh and Claude. I'll get to that
answer in a second, because I'm kind of the one
that's been in the triangle probably the most and can
answer that for you. Brother, you did you feel do
you feel a different energy or the same energy when
you're looking for a flesh and blood big Foot type
creature or whatever the case might be. I'm just saying
I'm not telling you what you believe. I'm just saying

(33:14):
that you know that you go out to your house
and wherever you guys go, and you go out to
your area. When you go out there and then you
come to this area, do you is it a different
energy or is it just another day in the office? Like,
how does that feel to you?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (33:33):
Did you get that mirror? Didn't somebody get the mirror?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Mirror?

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Rich?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Can you like put on the closed caption so that
they can read it?

Speaker 5 (33:49):
I just got to say, is w t F It's
about the same for me. There was definitely some different
things out there, But the energy wise, I think the
only time that I really have felt that is when
I actually saw it. You saw when you when I
saw mine, that's how That's how I did something.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
But how was the energy?

Speaker 5 (34:15):
The energy was a lot higher that day?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Do you wait? But do you mean you mean excitement
energy or do you mean like you felt something like
felt something?

Speaker 5 (34:26):
Ohel The energy The excitement came after, right, But there
was definitely a change in the air when I saw mine.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
Oh that's very interesting, more like a high alert, like
there's so much like you're seeing yeah like this, hey
check this out, check this out.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
Yeah, it was almost like a like a six or
seven cents kicked in and it was like something was there,
something was off, but you could feel it, yeah, or
at least I could.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Interesting. Yes, see I I didn't expect that coming from you.
That's that's cool. So no, I'm being honest, you know
what I mean. That's I mean you got to look
at to look at it, to see from other people's perspective.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
I mean Tim and I have Tim and I have
gone out and we've had a lot of a lot
of things happen, a lot of encounters happened. But you know,
I don't know if if if the if the energy
level had changed on that it really changed when we
saw it. We saw it in October Mountain. I had
a change there. But when I saw it in a

(35:30):
Savoy is when I really felt the energy. Wow, you know,
and then afterwards it was excitement energy.

Speaker 11 (35:36):
But so's I'm sorry rich, also too rich is that
it just proves that these folks are all of us
really with this energy.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
It doesn't matter rain, snow is shine, yeah, like who
are yeah? And like Tim told us a long time ago,
you you you you see more like a lot going
on while it's raining though, you know, Oh, I brought.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
That rain brought some stuff around for us, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Every time that we've counter it's been I remember that
conversation To answer claude question, I have not seen the
actual campfire as they talk about in the triangle, but
I have seen the lights the orbs.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
In the triangle.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, I've seen the orbs and they disappear and they
dance around, and yeah, it's pretty spooky, man. I've seen
that with a long pathway with a it has like
a canopy about seven feet high of these trees that
come over the path like this, and it's like a tunnel.
You can look right to the horizon. I don't know
how long far away. You just keep walking and the

(36:43):
horizon gets further away. And I remember it was right
around dusk, and I could see him doing this little
dance and I'm like, oh my god. And I've heard
the Native American drums in the triangle. That was pretty freaky.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
That was like.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Wait, I'm like in the middle of nowhere and I'm like, wait,
what is that? And then you listen and you can't
hear the rhythm at first, you can only hear the noise,
and then you stop and really focus, and.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
He had I actually think I heard that the first
time I was with you guys, I kept saying, I'm like,
I'm hearing this like drumming noise.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, and I've heard it at my house before too.
As a matter of fact, my house has has a
lot of that energy there as well.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
So uh, I want to You know, Eric and I
were working on the Appalachian Trail one day, oh boy, Connecticut,
and when he could fog amer and we had off
in the distance, we heard drumming. And as we kept
hiking and hiking and hiking, this this noise got close,

(37:41):
you know, louder louder, closer, closer, And it was this
dude out there with dreads and he was, you know,
boom boom, boom boom, doing this thing sitting on Race
Mountain in Connecticut. And he was by himself, completely by himself,
carried is all these drums up there? You know it
looked like, you know, a shirt, but would all the
drums really was up there? Dooley, do you know all

(38:03):
this stuff? And me and Erica are like, what is
going on? And this is out you know, we're you know,
there's nothing going on. And then then we ran across
this guy and we used to work on the trail,
so I mean, a stranger things have happened, and I'm
just putting it out there. It's just not that they
they weren't whatever you're hearing. I'm just saying, sometimes it's

(38:24):
people in the woods.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Sometimes sometimes it's just people in the woods.

Speaker 8 (38:33):
It was a trip, you know, it's just you know,
you hear this beat in the woods and it was
just like, well, this is strange, and you know, we're
thinking all kinds of weird stuff. You know, the UFO
is coming down or great, you know it was.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
I answered question, well, yeah, he asked me what affected
me the most while I was there?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Well, okay, what what is that?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I was apped?

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Like real good, she feels she was apped everybody, Yeah,
who needs apt music.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
I think that was like the most intense experience out
They're just the feeling.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Of actually being stabbed back.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
And then just the pressure on the head in my
body where I was just kind of numb and I
almost wanted to go to my knees. And then I
noticed looking around there was a lot of like markings
and stuff with the asterisks.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
By mockings, do you mean glyphs on the ground glyphs. Yes, yes,
I remember you pointing them out to us, and.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
The axes were intense.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Set your energy after you left the woods, Yeah, did
you feel it?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yeah, it was with me for a few days.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, it actually I.

Speaker 7 (39:51):
Think with me, I'm still recovering from all the intense investigation.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
It's it is so awful. You know. You get those
the ones that are just crazy right today was kind
of chill, but still really good hot. You know, boots
on the ground research, right, and that's the difference, right,
And then you get those ones that are boots on
the ground research with and everybody's on in rhythm, everybody's
in tune with each other, everybody's working together to get

(40:19):
to the common goal. And that's some of the things,
like I brought up in the opening too, was you know,
all of us just really really really really like like
bonded in a sense as researches, and we're very open
minded to talk and teach and explore and open our minds.
And I gotta say two things I was gonna say

(40:40):
earlier that I noticed bringing up this topic and this
conversation and feeling calm, like chet Nichol says, we feel
totally calm in our area. I'm very excitable, so it's
hot for me ever to really feel calm. I don't
know if you guys notice that, but I know what
Chet's saying as far as feeling safe in a sense
that we're okay, you know what I mean. But I
got to say the two things I really noticed because

(41:01):
I hadn't been out with Brandy before. Obviously she's new
at this and and this portion of it. But a
great research nonetheless, so you know, like even like talking
like Jeene Tewksbury and stuff, watching the things she does
to research, and and you know, watching like what what
what Brandy brings to the table, and and you know,
you could research in many different ways, right, or many
different things and in many different ways, you know what

(41:25):
I mean. So we all researched very well together. But
the two things I really liked the most. I had
never seen Tim smile that much. I had never seen
I had never seen Tim willingly kind of debate his
own kind of mind in a sense too, and open

(41:46):
it kind of like your mind opened a little bit
further that day, Tim, I thought that was really awesome.
And then to watch Eric not just wait for us
to point things out or walk up the things. He
was bringing us up to things and showing us as
far as structures.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
And we were a good team out there.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah. And well, I just think that we felt so
loose and away from judge, judgment, and and we were
completely free of any any ridicule or anything like that
that we deal with in all our fields that we do,
all our fields of research that we do. I think
we all knew that we were just in a complete
comfort zone.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
You know, I learned so.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Much from Tim. It was incredible.

Speaker 7 (42:27):
I mean the knowledge that I have about trees and
everything now is.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Like, what like what you learned from them?

Speaker 8 (42:36):
I didn't tell you there was going to be a test.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
My bad, We're gonna find out that you learned from Tim.
The trees.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
I think we were talking now.

Speaker 7 (42:46):
We were talking about how you say it like when
a branch comes off.

Speaker 8 (42:50):
And the way it grows.

Speaker 7 (42:53):
I always thought it was just a tree growing like that,
but I didn't know it was basically like new life
from a broken branch.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Right. Yeah, Well I love that stuff though, Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
Tim, you'll get uh.

Speaker 8 (43:06):
And after I showed it to you, how many more
do we see?

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
A lot?

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Right?

Speaker 8 (43:11):
So once you know what you're looking for, you kind
of pick it up and okay, okay, it's not so
it's it's a I'm not saying, I'm not downplaying or anything.
What I'm saying is a fact, and this is how
it works. We just got a wicked, wicked thunderstorm here.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
I don't know it.

Speaker 8 (43:31):
Yeah, that's a lake anyway, that's cool. So anyway, the tree,
you get a tree on the hillside, it bends over
in a storm. Now it's growing sideways the tree, the
tree end gets damaged in some way, the main trunk
dies off or the tree decides to shut that branch off,

(43:51):
and then the first branch that comes up off of
that leaning tree becomes the new trunk. And in fifteen years,
twenty years, as I showed you that tree branch, the
main tree that fell now has a branch going straight up.
This part rots off, becomes part of the ground, and
you'll see a terminal scab right around it. It's a
terminal end. Sometimes the row it's rotted out and you'll

(44:15):
see a little bits of ends of it. But generally
the first branch takes off. Sometimes the second branch is
as well, and they'll take off and it'll look like
an L branch and it's oh, well it's a Native
American turn signal or something like that. Well, this tree
is less than sixty years old. And I don't know
what Native American tribe is up there bending these things

(44:36):
like this, but that's what we're led to belief. And
I'm just saying there's a natural occurrence to a lot
of stuff. And it just puts you know, it's time
in the seat, time and a seat getting educated. Tom
Wessel's guy up there Antioch up in New Hampshire. Awesome guy,
is you know a conservationist old history tree, these transformations

(45:02):
tree tree transformation from all growth to new growth back.
So it's just a transitional forest. So much to learn
out there, and that kind of gives you the foundation.
So when you walk through those woods, you could say, oh,
well that's how that happened. That's not in the question
mark anymore. Oh that's potentially how that. So you could

(45:23):
you kind of just weed out the nonsense. And then
you start to look at particulars and you know, there's
thirteen hundred acres in my backyard here, Well, maybe a
couple are gonna blow down now, but.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
You know.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
So, so I'm gonna have xes and structures and not structures.
I'm gonna have tons of potential exes. And for me,
it's which one is of value, which one is communication?
Which one am I supposed to be looking at That's
how I'm looking at it. I am probably looking at
it completely wrong. I'm not looking at it through a

(46:03):
big big foot eye or in that scope. I'm looking
at it because I see it all the time. So
for me, the exes have to be significant. Structures have
to be significant, meaning more than one potential. You know,
you'll get trees that will break and they'll fall. And

(46:24):
I just had a fifty mile an hour wind gust
out here. All those trees are blown around like this.
If one of those trees fall while the branches like this,
the next part goes like this. All of a sudden,
you've got an eight inch tree that's woven into branches
eight feet high. How did that happen? Oh my gosh,
I just had a fifty mile an hour sixty hour gust.

(46:45):
That could explain that, So it doesn't. My point is
it has to be significant, you know, And I have
to be able to say, like when we had our
Bigfoot experience in New York. I could tell you every
mammal it wasn't right, you know. So you once you
get to that point, you're explained everything away. Now you're

(47:08):
in the realm of holy crap, this this is really
potentially a Bigfoot. And I've I've taken twisted branches out
of the woods and brought them home. We've we've had Yeah,
our eyes have been opened, probably more so since we've
been working with you guys and listening to other people

(47:31):
that you've brought on with structures. So you just can't
kick it to the curb because you're you're just taking
that whole component out of research. And there's too many
people out there that do wood structures. They just want
to throw sticks at me right now for saying I
think there's weird.

Speaker 7 (47:53):
With hoots question that I was completely shot with.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Sorryoak.

Speaker 7 (48:01):
I actually witnessed cloaking with them, and that's where I explained,
Oh my god, have you seen Harry Potter when he
puts the cloak over and he disappears.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
That bubble that is created in the movie.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
That's what I saw surrounding Ritchie when I first went
in that day.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yep, I remember that conversation like did you see that?

Speaker 3 (48:21):
And he's like, yep, he feels it. That was that
was intense for me, that was that was right here.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
I see it a lot in there. And and so
to answer that question two with d whu and uh
the energy being different from one side of the creek
to the other, and I think I think you could
feel that. And like Eric, Eric was going to mention
the tunnel, and then I have a question for both
the Vogels real quick, what were you going to say
about the tunnel? Eric?

Speaker 5 (48:50):
Well, you know, for for me, I'm gonna I have
a tough time with stick structures, like Tim was saying,
you know, because we've got so many of them. But
that tunnel, for me, that that that was a tough
one to look at and try to and try to
explain that, you know, I mean, because they just don't
fall in lock in or in lock in place like that. Yep,

(49:14):
I would have thought they would have. But that was
I mean, that was a tunnel. There was no doubt
about it.

Speaker 8 (49:19):
That's one of those things that we put in the
significant and it really quits in like all right, So
this one we're gonna look at a little closer, you know.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
So, so my question of both of you, now that
you've you know, discussed the sticks a little bit, what
do you think of the college that was nuts?

Speaker 8 (49:45):
That was with all the pushing stuff, the broken trees,
and ye, yeah, that was. That was and you know,
you can't even say it was like a microburst because
it was so random a microburst section, yeah, and that
was yeah, yeah, there was no directionals. There was just

(50:07):
kind of when you know, yeah, yeah, And as I
had mentioned, you know, in in certain areas when you
get really thick growth, you look at the environmental factor.
There's a lot of pine trees, lack of sunlight, high roots, systems, water,

(50:29):
things like that that they could be exposed to root rots, blights,
things like that. But to have you know, the whole
system would be shut down, you know what I mean,
the whole place would be dying, dying off. And there
was plenty of good trees in there, you know, you
know what I mean. If it was a diseased area,
I don't know how it's just hitting a certain few,

(50:51):
but maybe I don't I don't know, Maybe after a
certain while, a disease pops in and the trees that
were prior to that, they're not effected. There's an environmental factors,
But I don't know that was a weird place.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
There's a weird place, yeah, yes, and it's different for sure.
There was a lot more activity in there now than
the first time I went with you.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yes, yes, there, yes, and that's the stuff that and
that's cool because that's the stuff. But that's the stuff
you could see though, the changes in the place, And
you have to understand to yeah, to reiterate the fact
that we're in there and we know what generally what
the place looks like, and we know where things should
be and shouldn't be right, and so when you see

(51:38):
that change and you were there forty eight hours ago
and it was sunny and you know, and no wind
and everything else, and so whether automatically gets thrown out,
you know, time gets thrown out, right, so you already
know that that wasn't there. So there now, mind you
in that area there that we were standing at the college,
there's another one called the university went over my property
would call the high school. So there's these certain areas

(52:03):
and someone I forget what was on the live set.
At best, it's like a Dan trap and when we're
in there, you can see the desk at all over
the place. You know, the deer is still crossing through there,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
And you could also see where it looked like there
was one where they were corralling them into a certain
section where where they were you know, where everything was
kind of laid down and they were if you were
a deer and you were pushing them, you'd push them
right through this little tunnel area, you know, a little
squeezed in section.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
I noticed that when we were in there.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (52:39):
And if you saw I think he's talking about rich
the other side of the polished the boat.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Yeah, it was wide and it just narrowed right down, you.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Know, and then you see the holly tree.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
And then like I told you, I go you see
it like you know with Tim and and Richie.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
And then like and I just said, just like check
just check out where you are.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Do you think of this?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
And then it's like it's like fenced, like it's just
one chlor.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Yeah, it's almost like like it was purposely built up.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
Yeah, Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
It gives a different perspective to structures though, if you
can because people say then what would the reason be, Well, food.

Speaker 8 (53:19):
That's me and that guy, right, throw that guy.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I'll throw sticks at you.

Speaker 8 (53:25):
And if we're talking, we're having a conversation. That means
we have to see it ourselves. So we have to
hear it, right, So we're not going to be able
to hear a wood structure. I'm not going to be
able to hear an X, So I have to be
able to see it.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
So I have to.

Speaker 8 (53:40):
It has to be relevant to me in a big
foot world sense, to to to mean something, whether it's
stay away, go away, you know, buy it, why or whatever.
And if you don't know what you're looking at, you know,
for me, I could show you a ten of them
out here. Didn't mean that it's not by a bigfoot.

(54:01):
What I'm saying is, I just don't know. It has
to be relevant. They have to be able to decipher
which one is which, right, and you gotta be.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
More than one. Well, yeah, you know, has to be
more than one big foot, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
But I think we've proven that.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
What's I haven't, But I think we've kind of proven.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
That with the different shoe sizes, right, so.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
So that that you've got going.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Yeah, that we've well documented the different foot sizes. So
but you know, it's very refreshing to hear that, because
this is the point that I'm trying to make as
far as research. You guys have been doing this a
lot longer than me, you know what I mean, And
a lot longer than Wojo and and uh Brandy, and
you know, to understand after all these years that the

(54:46):
passions there that you're willing to kind of come down
from where you've been comfortable, right, and to be open
about it and say, hey, listen, you know some things
are changing for me, and some things are changing for
me because I'm communicating with other researchers that have other
beliefs or other theories, will call them right, not beliefs.
Everything that we've done is based off of documentation. Everything

(55:09):
that we've done is based off of hard work and
in the woods and every theory that we've come up with,
and the biggest theory with the structures is a source
of food, a way of hunting, a way of killing.
And if you add that element to this, it's a
whole different ballgame. It's a whole different ballgame because now

(55:30):
it's not just a clan mocker or they're over there's water,
or over there's a food path or a food source.
If you actually look at it as oh my god,
that could be something. How they're corralling, how they're trapping,
how they're changing the direction of their food source, how
they're making their food sauce. Stop and think while they
get their legs broken and dragged off to be eaten.
If you stop thinking of it like that, because we

(55:50):
all go to the grocery store, it becomes a different animal.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
How about when we were how about when we stood there,
we saw those two prints overlooking the deer betting.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Yes, that's yes, they slipped off the right.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Yeah, it was like a little a little like a
long stick like this big in the in the compost.
And there were these two hillmocks side by side like yeah,
you can see that, and one had a little bit more.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
And they was standing there and right over you could
see deer beds like they were just sitting there watching
the deer beds.

Speaker 8 (56:30):
And that's the that went by. To be honest, I
don't if I'm a deer, I'm not gonna let a
big foot get that close and watch me.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Maybe maybe if he popped in.

Speaker 8 (56:42):
That's a hard that's a I think it was there
was something was there. Definitely had tracks there, But in reality,
I don't think it was watching the deer. It might
have smelt them later on. I don't think a deer
is going to give him that opportunity to be right
there and say hey, I mean.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
I could be.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
You could be right.

Speaker 7 (57:07):
Yeah, they were right up on us and we couldn't
see them, but we could feel them.

Speaker 8 (57:11):
I know where where those tracks were. I was the
guy up in the front checking out all the deer poop, saying, no,
here's some, here's some, here's some, here's something. Ye on
the farm. Every time you got up a cow that
they'd poop and pee, right, they do. Every time a
deer gets up just about they're gonna poop and pete,

(57:32):
and that's what they do. They're leaving a scent behind.
And these probably just walked up, scared them off, and
now they've left all this fresh scent and now he's
just checking it out. And that's why we got those
two cool heel tracks. I just you know, could be
a whole nother situation. They could have been sitting there, yeah,

(57:54):
but they could have been.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
No. I agree with what you're saying, but never us.
They were looking at those beds, whether.

Speaker 5 (58:03):
The other.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yeah, maybe they're looking at them and checking them out
and making nothing's in there. Okay, I'm moving on to
the next. You know, maybe maybe that's.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
One way or the other.

Speaker 8 (58:11):
Something would have done, you know, because I would have
body slammed him if I was a big foot. That's deer,
that's dinner.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Yeah, right, And.

Speaker 8 (58:21):
Then you got exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yeah, the cool thing is too, Eric right, had just
further down.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
Yeah, but the following those you know, he kept saying
about the white the white sticks on the ground, watching
the compressions.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
It's like a trackway, like, you know, we're following the trackway.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
And then you showed me, and then I just looked
around and then that's when I looked over the creek,
and that's when we found we forgot completely about the granolas.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
So again it's it's just following.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
The league, you know. Yeah, exactly, exactly, one real quick thing, Claude.
I believe there was documentation of it being well, curse
can't be really documented, but it was cursed because of
what you said. The colonists were mean and nasty and

(59:16):
all that stuff. So plus the war, the war has
a lot of a lot of bloodshed. King Philip's War.
We lost brand. That's right, Jim. We got Brandy down
on the floor. She's not much of a drinker, folks.
She had herself a sip and there she went. But

(59:36):
what's up, Darren Doe? Welcome to the show. I just
made a rhyme and I didn't even know to meet you. Yeah,
he was on a live today, I believe. Thank you
very much. I appreciate the compliment. The lives have been huge,
right real quick, because we've been talking an awful lot
about that c l O A K word cloak, something

(59:58):
that I have not been able to get in into
in my head, kind of like the sticks and the
structures and all that stuff. And but again I remain
I remain open minded. I have had an experience that
I've shared on this show with my daughter and I
and if she's still here, I could have her come
tell you the story. Mind blowing and then and then

(01:00:21):
what the hell is that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Was that you? Oh? And and then we get we
get some footage on a on a game camera that
I would like I would like to share with the audience.
And if Claude's still here and and I don't know
if Chet's still here, and you know, if everybody can
kind of give some input on this, it would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
I'm not saying it's anything.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
I'm just yeah, this is wicked interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Has Tim seen this yet?

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
I don't know. It's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
All right, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you
the full version first. All right, I'm gonna give you
the original, and then I cropped it so you can
see exactly up close what's going on. So all right,
so here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Oh and have your headphones. Headphones on it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Yeah, get headphones on and listen closely because the listening
coinciding with what we're looking at now. Mind you. The
game camera is up about eight feet on a tree
and it aims over a brook into this area where
we've had a lot of noise, a lot of them
around and like you know, sounds and it goes out,

(01:01:30):
I don't know it put a cup on her feet
or whatever. That's where we were standing where the hailmarks were,
basically right. So I'm gonna play this right now, and
I just want your input again. Nobody's claiming anything. This
is straight from our game camera. The dates right there.
It's all time stamps four seventeen twenty six. I think
ninety one forty four degrees right, So hey, I'm gonna

(01:01:54):
bring it up. I'll try to make it as big
as I can.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
That's big.

Speaker 8 (01:02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Pay attention to the right hand corner, upper right, upper right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
Yeah, on the right hand side. Look for the glow
three quarters of the way up.

Speaker 8 (01:02:12):
Oh yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Oh yeah, there it is right there. That's what get you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Boom. I see too in the branch.

Speaker 8 (01:02:28):
Yeah, I hear. But no, well just let it move.
See if it's blinks or kind of kind of gets
up again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Pay very close. Nope, that's not true. Pay close attention everybody. Yep,
right there. Did you see it?

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
It doesn't blink, it just moves.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Nope. Two of them right there, coming.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Up right there, right there, let's right at you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Now, what everybody sees that? Right?

Speaker 8 (01:03:11):
I see two bright lights right there, two right objects.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
They moved together, right, Yes, they moved together. They moved together.
They're not two separate orbs. They together at the same time.
And just as it crosses that branch, you watch the
one on the left, it flickers, yeah, like it blinks,
almost like a blank righty, I just I didn't want to. Yeah,

(01:03:38):
I have a close up of this. Everybody looks down.

Speaker 10 (01:03:44):
Yeah right here, yeah, right there, you see the blank.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
Yeah blank, he is.

Speaker 8 (01:03:55):
Weird in front of the tree. In front of it,
I mean in back of it. It's like a darker,
shattered shaded tree.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
That's distance right, yeah, right there something there, and there's
a width between them, yes, exactly. The width is huge, dude,
Thank you for bringing that up. That's when I was
bringing up the close up and then gosh, so just
everybody just shut up with down up ova down up,

(01:04:33):
same distance. Ah that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Mm hm, yep, that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
We went there today and we determined that it was
eight and a half feet up approximate about eight eight
and a half. We thought seven at first, but then
we realized that this branch in front of you is
up way higher than what I thought originally.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Yeah, it's it's a saplings, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
And the fact that they move exactly at the same time,
like it's not two things.

Speaker 12 (01:05:05):
It's towards the end, it's like a shadow on the left,
that's see that right there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Right in between with that, it's right eye towards the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Watch.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
That's like a shadow and.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Watch it following it all the way because it's moving intelligently.
It seems like it's looking down looking up. Yep, it's
kind of just moving.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
It's not sure about that camera A little.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Right, a little bob and weave right. So I just
have trouble because I'm not of the cloaking party at
this point in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
It's gotta be cloaking even.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
At night. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Yeah, that's that's intense, Richie.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Can you can you use them?

Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
I was trying to figure out maybe someone had a
headlamp and they're looking up and down like that, but
there's no there's no light and shadows created by a headlamp.
You'd see it in the trees. You see a headlamp shadow.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
And unfortunately with this this footage because I again I
went way in to superimpose it. I mean, I could
have done it at different distances and had ten videos,
right and uh, but I didn't. But if you look,
even the one on the right, you can almost it
almost has this little black circle in the middle like
a off to the bottom left of it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
It looks like it goes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I don't know, see. Look the one on the left
is key because there is a flicker that's like a blink.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
Yeah, it looks like it goes in front of that sapling.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Yeah, it goes I think there's a no, I think
it's behind it, and it goes between them. It's a
between look as opposed to.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
The line.

Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
You look, you can see a shadow around the eyes again,
that bubble like I've got.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
To say that, like shadowy bubble, that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:01):
Cloaking because, believe it or not, it's like a little
pixelution that you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Can see someone on the top of the eyes or
like a forehead would be. It changes like a shadow.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
Don't move. They stayed the same distance apart.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
And that's huge.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
Yeah, that's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
That's a huge point. So I'll go back to the
original one more time because this is to me, Oh
there it is good. Fine, look at that. Good, Look
at that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
That's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
They're moving.

Speaker 8 (01:07:36):
Guess you really has to find out what that distance.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Is just right of the eyes.

Speaker 8 (01:07:41):
Yeah, that to me, it looks large. It looks like
it's you've got if you stop it right there, you've
got one, two, three, four branches right that are coming
up within within that scope of eyes. Granted distance could
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Pretty wide, Ritchie, pretty big head.

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
Uh So in the far right corner, Okay, I know
it's dark, but there's a it's a big thick pine tree, right, Rich,
can we agree.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah, off to the very far right of the frame,
all right.

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
And then that's when you know, so that you know,
Matt found this big compression.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Yeah, and it's right, it's like right with that is
right there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Every ran the MF and the Geiger in there and
got readings.

Speaker 8 (01:08:31):
The only other thing I could say is that there's
it seems let's say thickly settled in there with branches,
and I see no other movement. You know, even if
it was cloaked, you would think that there would be movement.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:08:44):
If he's wearing the you know, the shroud of Goran
or whatever, and he goes in there and you brush
up against a branch, the branch would move.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
I'm not seeing it.

Speaker 8 (01:08:54):
It's almost like two micro orbs or something, but but
furies or something. And I'm not even going to go
with a faery. I would say two white orbs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I don't know how to get, yeah, the same distance
and move at the same time. So that's for me.
With all the olds I've ever seen in my life
and recorded and documented. I've never seen them in synchronicity.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
But it seems like is it goes up and down
towards the end as it's moving, because don't forget the
it kind of like the eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Or whatever we're looking at.

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
It's kind of a little bit on a slant towards
the end, and it looks like it's pulling away right there.

Speaker 8 (01:09:36):
So where does it go from here? Where does it terminate?
Does it just disappear?

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Well, that's the hot pot is that when you get
these videos that you request them from the satellite because
it's a satellite set up, so you only get fifteen seconds, right,
And I'm trying to find a way to get more
time on it because it snaps a shot and then
you request a video because it's satellite. It's not just

(01:10:01):
recording to movement, which sucks because I would have loved
to see thirty seconds of it. But yeah, right right,
But was sticking with the program with the camera. It's
not something that I've ever been picked up.

Speaker 8 (01:10:13):
Some anomalies, for sure, I have just because of the space.
It seems like I have a hard time with eyes
and the cloaking piece because there's nothing else moving. But
I don't know if that means anything, but I think if.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
You go into the Vocals Messenger the videos in there,
and if you take it and widen it and bring
it closer to the screen tim and just look at
the ground and stare. And for me, I've been over
this video about I Am approximately one hundred and fifty times,
and different various types of colors and gone class saturations,

(01:10:53):
and it's you know, different things. You can move too
close and get pixelated everything, or you can move it,
you know, like where it is. And if you watch
you could actually see flickers of shadow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Especially well I married. I married this on my sixty
five inch.

Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
TV, and I had it zoomed all the way. I
had it like a different angle zooms of the picture,
and I'll tell you very closely, you can see alterations
like a like a shadow of some sort.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
I can't explain it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
It looked like there's something like he was saying that
a pine tree off to the right, there's there's almost movement.
So if you go in and kind of pick through
this video, it's in the Vogel Brothers Messenger, you can
check it out yourself. And look, and I've looked at
the left side and the right side, and the downside
and the upside, like every bit of this frame. I've
picked a pot completely and but it's pretty me. Yeah,

(01:11:49):
for me, there's not a lot there for anything else.
At the distance, the moving at the same time, the curiosity,
the intellect, you know, it's there. You know what I mean,
because you kind of got that like.

Speaker 7 (01:12:03):
Motion, you know what I mean as a spiritual person
that works with the paranormal lot and like entities and
all that. When you look at this video, you don't
only just see I feel like I can feel the energy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
I feel energy from like live videos and stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:12:20):
There's absolutely something there, like of another world, whatever it is,
it's it's there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
There's like, no, it's just light or something. It's it's
something a being.

Speaker 8 (01:12:32):
You and I were talking quite a bit during the day,
and you were you were picking up these other vibes
that were out there, these vibes that you were picking up.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
I had a female, a Native American woman with me
the whole time we were walking around.

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:12:47):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying, maybe that's the energy things
and you're capturing it on that video.

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
Yeah, you know. I I I just the whole.

Speaker 8 (01:12:58):
I'm more in the camp of an ORB, a micro orb,
dust on a lens or something. But no, I I
get it. I would be more of an ORB than
I would have bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not of the orb. I've never
seen an ORB like that in all the years that
I've experienced. And I'm not on a I'm not I'm
not on the I'm not on the orge.

Speaker 8 (01:13:22):
We saw, We're huge. I'm just saying this might be the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Yeah, in my experience, they don't move at the same time,
and in my experience, you're dealing with a stationary lens
that does not move. So to have any kind of
reflection that's moving around like this and doing that doing it, yeah,
it has to be done on the other side of it.
So I I agree. It's absolutely not an ORB. I
don't know. I'm not saying I know what it is.

(01:13:47):
I'm just saying it fits all the criteria of the
self looming, illuminating eyes that Wojo and I have experienced
in the woods. It has the distance between the eyes
that people talk about so frequently. So can I please
say that wild.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Well, what's the audience thing are.

Speaker 6 (01:14:06):
They Well, I mean, I mean it's a droots because
he says, well, it could be it could be pixels.
But really, I mean you're talking about you know, this
whole picture. Everything is fine. Just when you watch just
thee whatever we're looking at it, it's not like it's

(01:14:27):
quite pixelating, but it's it's just like it's like a
shadow splash like look, I don't know, like uh, like
the was the rich Predator, you know, it's it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Yeah, and and and and the pixelation theory is you know,
all theories are good theories, guys. This is we're not
saying anything as scientific. We're just saying, you know, a
lot of pixelation comes from movement. So there's nothing moving it.
It's moving. That's the difference. So when you're on my
phone and you see pixelation, yeah, it could be connection, right,

(01:15:04):
which clearly we have a good connection because the picture
is great here exactly, it could be movement. And there
is a shadow on the right. There is a shadow
on the right. I have seen that, so look into
a little bit further through messenger. So anyways, it's a
great discussion. It comes up in the cloak and theory uh,

(01:15:26):
something that I'm not completely abound with, And I've had
an experience of something running towards me and not being
able to see it me and my daughter when she
was like fifteen, sixteen whatever it was. But that's an
experience that I've had that I didn't share with anybody
for a long time. But this show and all my
new friends have helped me kind of come out of
that and talk about it. So I'm not afraid of

(01:15:47):
any anybody's ridicule. You have to remember, I lost the
son at birth, so there's something you can say that
will hurt my fucking failing trust me. So that has
helped me immensely, you know what I mean. So that
has helped me so much to be able to share
my thoughts and theories people and not be afraid of that.
I'm not afraid, So don't ye know that's that's not
even part of the topic.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
That's what it's all About's come together and you know,
given our own opinion, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Right and looks look on aside a little bit. Borgo's
brother Matt season thirty two year investigator of the paranormal
not in orb uh Claude. Orbs are typically round typically
correct strains. They both seem to have corners like a rectangle.
I checked it. Even the high it was about eight
foot six inches high with no branches that space. The

(01:16:34):
branches are not around the area of the eyes. No,
they're behind it. M I know. Jason Bender, Hello, Jason
bet Hello Wisconsin. Have you told George Nori about your
citing the Bigfoot Deluxe? They talk about Bigfoot and coast.
I don't know if that's an advertisement or a question. Sorry,
no disrespect. Uh. The Ohio Bigfoot Researchers Tim says that
is eyeglow, that they do something that one of our

(01:16:57):
guests come in may experience. Renee Gayhat has experienced that.
And I saw the video and it looked exactly like
Wojo and I saw a load of the ground self illuminating.
I mean, I get, I get yeah, I get, I
get load of the ground eye shine with a with
a raccoon. I get that. It's load to the ground.
This is not eye shine, it's self illuminating. There was

(01:17:20):
no lights on these things. They were looking right back
at it. And that's the bottom line. That is reality.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
I might have another possible theory. I'm just gonna throw
it out there, so take it for whatever it's worth.
Here we go.

Speaker 6 (01:17:34):
So where that big tree is, you can see how
the eyes are kind.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Of like not perfectly straight, but just a little bit
of an angle.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
But that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I'm just wondering if.

Speaker 6 (01:17:49):
They could be possibly out of the picture, but maybe
like the guys are reflecting on the screen, it's a possibility.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:17:59):
I ad on an angle where we can't see the
body because he's further maybe further out of the picture,
but he's in the angle where the eyes where the
eyes ray towards the angle of the camera, because the
camera's like a parrot, you know, it's it's a yep
be at you, and we're just seeing those glows moving

(01:18:23):
while he's out of the picture.

Speaker 8 (01:18:25):
The only thing in Bigfooting I think we haven't experienced
is eye shine. We've had the not you know, you
run the gamtlet of what is out there that people
have experienced. We've we've had a lot of experiences in
over twenty years, just twenty years, so we've experienced a lot.
I've never experienced. I've never experienced the eye shine. I've

(01:18:46):
seen it in other animals, different things like that. I'm
not clueless. I understand that. I listen to other people
that have seen it. They say it's self illuminating, so
I get that. But when they do see it, they
generally say they're as big as reflectors, and they're they're
they're red or sometimes green or yellowish.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Grew.

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
Yeah, and that's that has all.

Speaker 8 (01:19:12):
That's a whole nother science project talking about eyes and
eye shine. But but these looked to me, they look small.
That's why I called it a micro or Obviously it's
not a fan of orbs, it's you know, but these
look small, and to me it didn't fit the bill
of large reflective or red or something like. That doesn't

(01:19:36):
mean all big foots have to have red eyes. I'm
just saying, if we're running consistency or patterns, I see
more red and I think maybe green or yellowish in
tones of eyes. I've never I'm not gonna say i've
never heard it. I just didn't didn't strike a bell
or a thing with me when I'm I'm looking at

(01:19:56):
two white dots going, you know, kind of like so
when I with the you know, self illuminating red big
eyes like your guy behind you, using patterns and from
what other people are saying.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
What I want to add right now, and I'll be
Tim Gayhead.

Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
I know you're on here, and and Richie obviously because
we've seen the same thing that as a whole you
see a big glow, but the closer they get.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
You start to see the dots.

Speaker 6 (01:20:30):
Okay, I'm just I'm just saying that they're out of
the picture. The glow is out there, but they're close
enough where you can see, you know, those two dots,
which is the might be some sort of eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Again, I'm not a professional when it comes to beams
of the eye light, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
Anyway, I don't know if it's like a possible reflection
at the camera to you know, follow it the way
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
It's it's just weird.

Speaker 8 (01:21:00):
It's a stationary camera. Richie's got that nailed, you know.
I mean, it's a stationary camera looking out and there's
two things out there, so they're emitting the light. That's
a given. It's just really small white lights is what
I'm looking at, as opposed to you know, reflect their
looking red eyes. And that's when when I've heard people

(01:21:23):
talk about eyeshine and Bigfoot in particular, large red or
greenish eyes something to that effect. I haven't seen that
knocking it. I'm just saying that right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
I'm going to help you with that right now, because
I have seen all the above. I've seen the white.
I've seen yellow and green, definitely yellow and green was
one of the was the one I saw the most
of that yellow green. I call it a hue. And
then the big red ones that I talked about, those
were the only time I saw the red. I've seen
now the ones that look red, but it could have been,

(01:21:56):
you know, my eyes playing with me for I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:21:58):
Color is all light, Yeah, it's gonna be emitting that color.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Those whites were different.

Speaker 5 (01:22:05):
The ones that are around, Yeah, the ones that we're
looking at aren't round. That's kind of throwing me off.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
They might be on an angle. Then it's not dead on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
They have to be round. Why do they have to
be round?

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Well, why would they Why would they be on an
angle or a rectangle?

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
My eyes on round, my eyes on round? Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:22:31):
Just from reports, you know, large round red eyes. As
a general, twenty of people have seen the Bigfoot right there,
and they got big round eyes, and you know, so
I'm not gonna you know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
I'm stuck. I'm gonna be honest, I'm stuck. I've seen
it one hundred and fifty times, Abot, and I just
every time I look at it, I'm like, what is
this Like, I'm just stuck.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
I'm stuck.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
That's all I'm saying is I'm stuck.

Speaker 8 (01:22:56):
So that's that's that's that's fine your research. You're supposed
to be stuck. That's what keeps you going, right, So
it doesn't always have to have an answer. I'm just
saying to me, I'm not seeing big red, big for
the eyes and they seem little white. I call them
micro orbs before I even knew what I was looking at,

(01:23:18):
and that's kind of what I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
So, but are we only seeing a section of the eye?
Are we seeing the whole eye? I mean, I have
no you know what I mean, Like, do I zoom in.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
And until you have the film looked at, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
A section of the eye, Richie.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
I mean, that's what I'm stuking.

Speaker 6 (01:23:36):
Or do we think that the light how light reflects
off the camera?

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
You know?

Speaker 8 (01:23:42):
Also, if we're talking cloaking, cloaking is disguising. We're seeing
through this thing. I don't know if it's you know,
like a mirror reflecting cloaking, or if if if it's
you know, translucent hair, you know, if it's a bigfoot.
They talk and I just you know, was Charlie Charlie
Raymond down in Kentucky. We're just having a conversation on

(01:24:05):
his show about translucent hair and cloaking and things like that,
how hair refraction and light refraction and blah blah blah.
You're looking straight through this thing at the trees behind
it as well. So I don't know what the cloaking
means or the definition of it is, but you're clearly

(01:24:26):
seeing between these things, I believe, And so I don't
know if cloaking is the right word. I don't know.
Right right, you got two white things that are really misting.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
No, right, I got wait wait, because with what you
guys are saying right now, you've got my researcher brain going.
Are we sitting there as something staring at the camera
cloaked out? And then the I light comes on and
actually makes it into a reflective and not a self
illuminating because why would it self illuminate if.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
It was trying to hide? So maybe the IYI light.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Turned it into animal shine as opposed to what it's
used to doing and changes the color and the shape
and everything else of the eye. Think about it like
it's just sitting there thinking it's safe, and then all
of a sudden it gets hit with eye.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
It looks like it thinks it's safe. I'm not even
noticing the camera, just watching around it.

Speaker 8 (01:25:16):
But I don't know if the eye movement shows quizzical,
you know, like right, if I get that, I get that,
but I'm looking between the eyes, I'm looking straight between
them and seeing the tree and seeing the tree. I
don't understand the cloaking component. If it's losing it's you know,

(01:25:38):
ghost girl, you're gonna have a ghost. You put your
sheet on, you got something in front of you, You're
hiding your cloaking, right, I don't know. I'm just putting
it out there. That's why out there in this world
that are going to be watching this video saying, dude,
you can see right through it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
What about that?

Speaker 8 (01:25:55):
And I'm like, well, yeah, you get.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
But what do we But what do we really know
about a cloaking bigfoot? Is it?

Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
We have no idea, right, so we don't know right
from one I think.

Speaker 8 (01:26:11):
Weird light that you know the camera bro.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Ojo you in this camera, you cherk.

Speaker 8 (01:26:18):
I told you out there they.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Put out five more.

Speaker 6 (01:26:23):
How's that this is?

Speaker 5 (01:26:30):
Because like this really opened your eyes to it?

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
All right? Time out real quick, bree, Happy birthday to
six year old baby boy? Happy birthday? What's his name?
We'll get a shout out. Let's go. Damien wants to
see it again. Now see we talked about it enough.
They want to see it again. You want to see it,
spidy boy, Happy.

Speaker 6 (01:26:52):
Birthday, Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
T be look at all? What crazy big for people
to one place?

Speaker 11 (01:27:04):
Hey all all right, so hold on's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Here, wait a minute, wait a minute. Stop. You're right,
I'm thinking the same thing. Yes, stop that ship were
like boyfriend and girlfriend ship?

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Thanks girl friend?

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Oh hey girl?

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
No middle rightish, well flickers right here, I'm telling you
it flickers right there. Won Joe to sing? Now, birthday,
Happy birthday to.

Speaker 13 (01:27:42):
Birth awful, thank you, thank you very little, thank you
very little.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
I'm glad you walk.

Speaker 8 (01:28:00):
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
All right.

Speaker 8 (01:28:01):
Time about this is the collector's edition. Collector's edition.

Speaker 5 (01:28:04):
Keep it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
I know that's gonna end up on one of my promotions.
I'm gonna be pissed.

Speaker 6 (01:28:08):
We'll likely find out a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Time out. Time out t KB TKB TKB, Tennessee, Kentucky, Bigfoot.
Can you watch this? This is our game camera, I
mean our trail camera, nine thirty one pm on the seventeenth,
forty four degrees and I want you to look at
that little white see the little white dot. I'm just
gonna get to the point a little bit to the
left of that skinny tree. I want you to watch
that little white dot. Keep keep watching it. Wait a minute,

(01:28:39):
Wait a minute, two white dots. Careful you get right
flickers right there. Eric, Can you see that it looks
like it's blinking.

Speaker 5 (01:28:51):
It does. Yeah, yeah, I didn't see that blink the
left one blink.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
That's nine thirty at night.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Went on out there, dude, I mean we've been out there,
but no, this is coming to my phone. I looked
at it and then I sent for the video, and
then Wojo called me and said, dude, did you see
that video?

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
I'm like, oh, yes, sir.

Speaker 8 (01:29:12):
Just for clarification for people looking at this, what's behind that?
This is all woods behind it. There's no house, no road, No,
there's no ambient traffic. Lights got in nothing like this
is all this is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
There's a this is way over here off to the right.
It's in the total. It's this is aimed. This is
aimed basically where the huts are. The huts are about
a half a mile from these dots and they're directly
behind it ended the pitch black darkness. Rich, can you
show the whole clip?

Speaker 8 (01:29:43):
This is the whole I was even going to go
with like a spiderweb with a couple of drops of
dew on it and floating.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Through and right now this is the whole clip.

Speaker 8 (01:29:51):
This is It doesn't go like that, you know, showing
up and gravity doesn't let it do that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Listen if you wojo all right, So to answer your question,
this clip, this clip is what we get from our
satellite camera. We have to we have to request the clip.
We got pictures taken and because it's satellite, we have
to push a button. It's through a subscription and then

(01:30:22):
they send you the clip of the photo that you want.
So they give you a fifteen second clip. This is
what was sent to the phone when I requested a
video of it of my show, of my show of
my picture. So this is the picture that went off randomly.
This went off by motion. And again, if you have

(01:30:42):
your headset on, you can hear movement. We keep forgeting,
we didn't talk about that part of this. Okay, let
me crank the vall.

Speaker 5 (01:30:49):
Yeah, you can hear like the clicking or the knocking.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
No, not forget the knocking. Man, listen to you can
hear leaves. If you have a headset headphones, you can
hear stuff moving in the leaves. Everybody, what the hell's

(01:31:17):
going on at that house? It's all I hear. So
get on your own damn headphones and you can listen
to it. Because I can't hear it here, but I
can hear it on my on my phone. When I
listened to it, I have daytime.

Speaker 8 (01:31:33):
And the other cool thing is you say it's motion censored, correct,
So something set it off. Something set it off.

Speaker 5 (01:31:42):
So the range is.

Speaker 8 (01:31:44):
A rich whatever your range is, you should be able
to go back to that almost find that because you
got a couple of marker trees right there, boom boom boom.
Can you could kind of paste it off and see
what is in that general lear is see if there
was something a footprint like the deer, you know that
thing standing over the deer.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Yeah, you know, we found we found that's what we
were saying earlier. We found an impression in the leaves.
This is an area that you guys stood and this
is right near those hailmocks.

Speaker 8 (01:32:14):
Oh, the betting area.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
The deer bed is off to the right of that
tree on the right side. It's off.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Yeah, that's about fifty adds away maybe less.

Speaker 5 (01:32:25):
That all makes sense now, don't it.

Speaker 8 (01:32:27):
Yeah, we continue moving that thing.

Speaker 5 (01:32:30):
Just put it in motion again.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
I can move it around all I want.

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
Yeah, I mean it could have been standing there.

Speaker 8 (01:32:40):
See I'm looking at the big pine tree in the middle,
the dark pine tree, and it also has a white
spot on it, but it's not moving. Oh I see, yeah,
right in the middle of the screen, that big pine
the dark Yeah, yeah, I think there's a light spot
on it, but it's it's not moving with the rest

(01:33:01):
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
I think that's a bud on a tree. It is.

Speaker 6 (01:33:06):
I've been in these, so that pine tree is if
he just like, go more to the right about an
engine your screen. There's a little white dot there to
and it never moved. I've been watching him.

Speaker 8 (01:33:19):
What makes your brain and well, that's what I'm saying,
now you can go back to that tree, find that dot,
and you're going to be in the vicinity of these eyeballs.
You're gonna be able to see if something was physically there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Yes, it's right now water. The brook is right below
the camera. The brook is right below the camera t KB.
The creekers below the ball. Yes, Matt knows.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Anything there because it leaves an odor. Definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Well, I mean it's not always because yeah, no, but
I gotta be honest with For years when I investigated
by myself, I never got an order, and then with Wojo,
I had my first order. Looks like a right.

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
Mountain. Yeah, you had only the odor once t KB.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Are you seeing just one daughter two dots?

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Because I think a sprite wouldn't simultaneously move with two dots.
It was one dot, Yeah, it's a sprink. Yeah. If
it was one dot, then I would be more. Yeah.
If you zoom in, there seems to be a doc
line that runs through the center of both Oh yeah,

(01:34:32):
oh well that's significant. Now the close up I have
you have to a stand. You lose something because you're
you're you're or a watcher. That's what someone else said.
By the way, I think it was maybe it was
Matt so because it's close, you lose a little bit,
but you could see the dots, so you know, meaning
you get more probably drag or pixelation.

Speaker 8 (01:34:53):
Yeah, and there's I mean there's shadow movement behind those
dots moving as well, you know, like on the right.
I don't know if it's just dark pixels and something
is shadowing. In other words, those shadows should be the same.
They shouldn't move right moving should be those white things,
and there is clearly black shadowing. When that right one moves,

(01:35:17):
you can see grave matters like like disrupt.

Speaker 6 (01:35:23):
I'm seeing it the left eye, which is something right
in the very top you can see change a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:35:31):
I don't know if it's it's waiting.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Wow for dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Probably it's you see how it gets.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
I think if anything you're dealing if I'm gonna say,
oh my god, I can't believe if you're dealing with
a cloaking the I like surprise the eyes. That's all
I'm gonna say. I don't think the like cloaking. How
can you cloak eyes? Right? Maybe the self illuminating the
obviously they can off and on, because to me, that's
more documented than anything. The self louting eyes. I mean,

(01:36:07):
we could talk about that all over the world, all
over the country wherever they found. But to have them
off and then the ile light flashes and catches him
because he's standing there cloak, then his eyes would show
up like this. That's what I'm seeing. That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
I think my eyes is gonna fall out. I think
my AST's gonna fall Jesus. Like Richie said, the big.

Speaker 8 (01:36:31):
Question is why can I see between them and see
in the background.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
We don't know what they do when they cloak.

Speaker 5 (01:36:37):
You're right, yeah, you can see what's behind it, so.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
Right, some of it's some of it's in front of it,
just to be fair, but I can still see behind it.

Speaker 8 (01:36:45):
Oh yeah, no, there's three dimensional value and it's right
in between the bright little twigs and the darker ones
in the back.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Approximately eight we approximately eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
But like you said, it's yeah, they're in they're intellectual.
They're looking that. It's up, it's down, it's over, it's
it's doing this the thing that they talk about. It's
it's doing the thing that they talk about. How many
times has this been reported? How many times? How many
times it's been reported for the dawn of time that
I've been around fifty three years, I know it looks

(01:37:18):
more like thirty three, thank you. Yeah, so look at
but just watch watch it goes down, goes up down.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
It's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
It's it's look at it right evidence, look at it moving.

Speaker 6 (01:37:35):
But it seems like late is like dragging from behind
it something else.

Speaker 8 (01:37:40):
Like catching it, like tracing. It's like leaving a tracer
behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
Yes, yes, listen, it's it's an insane piece of footage
that you talked about, because that very well, honestly, honestly,
if we're going to talk percentages, it's a toss up
that literally could be a cloaking bigfoot before you've very eyes.
I'm sorry, I don't there's a possibility. The fact that

(01:38:05):
there's even a possibility is inside.

Speaker 6 (01:38:07):
Yes, I'm kind of like, yeah, I don't know what
to think. I mean, we had a guy encounter and
I went right towards the big pine tree that's dark
to the far right, and it kind of goes up
a hill.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
And then comes down.

Speaker 6 (01:38:26):
It's like a little hump and that meter just went
right to the red for like maybe like two seconds,
and I just I just couldn't believe the I don't know,
and then the compression was coming towards the camera where that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Tree is on the slope of a hill.

Speaker 6 (01:38:48):
I got eighteen you know, approximately eighteen inches by like
eight a little over each.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
Post, which would be fitting for the sun place that
we determined around eight eight and a half. TKB says
he can see legs in that, and I wish he
was here so he could draw it, because it's driving
me freaking nuts. It should be noted that they're not
the same size, at least from our perspective. Well, it
should be noted too that again, we don't know nothing
about a cloaking bigfoot, and an eye light on a

(01:39:16):
cloaking bigfoot could give an eyeshine as opposed to self illumination.
To me, that says a totally different thing, because I
can hit Wojo in the eyes with a flashlight and
his eyes will go almost skinny up and down or
whacky or wonky, or whenever they move, they can turn
it into a different shape. Whenever they blink, they can
be a different shape. Listen, if anything, is a very

(01:39:37):
very interesting piece of footage, and the most interesting thing
that I've ever gone off a stupid camera.

Speaker 8 (01:39:43):
Wojo did you have Bojoe o Joe.

Speaker 5 (01:39:47):
Good work.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:39:50):
I just want to I want to know, yes, I
did purchase this camera, and I want to thank this
guy down here, misteric.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Volgol, for telling me to buy that. So that's Eric's idea.

Speaker 6 (01:40:01):
Wow, I'm just wondering now, Okay, if if rich I
wonder that in the future, what we're gonna probably do
is maybe get two more it kind of cone, have
a like a cone area, So where this camera is,

(01:40:23):
you're gonna probably like have another camera maybe, I don't know, Like.

Speaker 8 (01:40:29):
The boom there it is. It's the one you want,
absolutely all the one, the one who's looking yeah, just kids,
the one who's just just his buddy pushed him and
he fell over. That's the one you're gonna catch.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Can't we bring this back to blood and flesh and
blood for a moment? Please? Can we?

Speaker 8 (01:40:55):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Can't wait? Is everybody good with that? All right?

Speaker 5 (01:40:59):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
It's still gonna be cleaned up because see, I true
to my word. I kept the pine needles and everything
on it. Right, I'm gonna flake it off with a paintbrush.
And this is what was found that day. During the investigation.
With these incredible researching I had the privilege of researching
with we found what appears to be a mess in

(01:41:26):
the mud. I would call it a trackway, but not
a very neat and clean track way. One went this way,
two went that way, different sizes, fourteen by seven, twelve
by six. Pretty amazing stuff that day. And the beautiful
pot was one. If you watch a live you'll see it.

(01:41:47):
One went across the road and stepped right in the
middle and it was like an explosion of tan beige
type colored All right, Geene mean, I like you you
stop that stuff way to go erric cross And you
could tell by the weight when it landed, it splatted
all the muddo and yeah, and it was that's the thing.

(01:42:10):
I love you could. This is my theory on this
and I said it while we were on the live.
This is heavy by the way that mud was hit
directly straight down. There was no heel first toe. It
was stepped off over by where those behind the calls right,
there's a little bit of a hypea and it came

(01:42:30):
off and went straight down. And it's the theory of
how they walk right in the straight line and when
they land when they're walking correctly on crown.

Speaker 8 (01:42:40):
You could clearly see it by the cast off from
the step. Yes, it was. The cast off tells exactly
how that step was placed.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
No slippage though. Then that's my point that they hit right,
that the hips come out boom like this, where you know,
we're just like they're more like.

Speaker 8 (01:43:01):
Well, we're heel toe type of a person. We're walking
with her heel first, heel heel toe and this year clean?
Yeah yeah, what.

Speaker 5 (01:43:13):
How did that to.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
The right? Yeah, yeah, I haven't looked at it. You
you told me not to. You told me to wait
fucking years. You remember you said you were like, wait
five years before you clean it.

Speaker 14 (01:43:25):
You said, wait five years. I to the vocals, okay,
you said five years. My son has to be ten
before I could clean it. That's what you said, miss
the camera.

Speaker 5 (01:43:35):
Boy, I think that's I think.

Speaker 8 (01:43:39):
I will say this, hey, I will say this. It
was a cool track way, although convoluted a little messy.
Those tracks taking the track, those tracks in particular stood
out because of the depth and the cast off, and

(01:44:00):
it clearly showed a sub surface cast off, which is
two different colors.

Speaker 5 (01:44:04):
You had the.

Speaker 8 (01:44:05):
Black humous mud on top maybe and then that clay
sand base maybe the clay.

Speaker 5 (01:44:12):
Underneath that came up as well. So that walk through the.

Speaker 7 (01:44:16):
Water, right into the water, that print.

Speaker 5 (01:44:22):
You could almost see the well marks in the front.

Speaker 6 (01:44:25):
It was almost I was about to tell you Eric
that we went by today. You think you met the
first print that was the real good one. Yeah, that
me and rich and walked by. My brother walked by
this today. And those toes are still there.

Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
Yeah, remember you said the prints still there. I actually
did a three.

Speaker 5 (01:44:43):
D st so that'll be awesome. So that hopefully that
cast actually picked that print up.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
So and actually Brandy took a picture of you peeling
it up and it looked awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Yeah, absolutely, and.

Speaker 5 (01:44:58):
Just clean it off, take your time, clean it off,
and I bet you that will come out really good.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
When can I do that?

Speaker 5 (01:45:04):
That hydro cow? So that was that was that was good.
It was nice and thin.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
When can I do that? When can I clean them?

Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
You can clean start cleaning them anytime.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
Yes, yeah, I said, yeah, oh sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:45:24):
You can feel if it's dry or not.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Yeah, it's dry, trust me, it's fu.

Speaker 5 (01:45:29):
Yeah, you can feel. That's hydro cow. So that should
be pretty dry and.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
You're right, it smells just so well, I'm just it
fucking stinks. Oh there been They've been people that have
been people that put out twenty four in the area
and couldn't get one picture of them. They had them
in a grid so nothing could get by them without
a picture. Yes, and that's a camera, he gross, And
that's a camera that he's speaking of it. We've had

(01:45:55):
one thirty yards from our gifted chair and the food
was gone and not one damn picture. Whoa Joe Rich
you got to get the dumb one.

Speaker 5 (01:46:05):
He's like, He's like, they can't camera. You got it
on different angles.

Speaker 8 (01:46:13):
And next time we get we're going to take a
camera and buried in the ground, put some bark over
it and do one of these deals and then get
one upside down top version.

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
That's weird. Has that man been in my bedroom? Crazy man? Well, listen,
I I just want to I want to. I want
to do this to cap off an amazing investigation, because
this is part of it is sitting down and talking
about it and sitting down and share it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
And now you know, Brandy had to go, but we.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Get to come back to the house and again Jessica
had the house looking mint, and we got pizza and
Tim I I recently found out, Well thank you for
the pizza. Tim, That's what I'm gonna say. I don't
want to get any further than that, so but yeah,
thank you. So we had pizza and coffee, and I

(01:47:07):
got to tell you it was one time years ago
I was stuck in an International Scout truck right full
we'll drive and we sat there for like five of us, dudes,
rocking that thing, yelling pizza and beer, pizza and beer,
trying to get that thing stuck, and the section of
the of the New Hampshire Mud wouldn't let go. We
had to get towed out eventually, but we walked six

(01:47:29):
miles back home. And I don't drink. I got to
drink in September twenty first, nineteen ninety seven, but back then,
the best flavor I ever had was pizza and beer
that night when we got home, and I got to
tell you, with a cold, rainy day full of excitement
and chaos, that pizza and coffee was delicious, wasn't it.

(01:47:51):
And I heard someone say that, really, I think it
was Wojo that really hit home. Did that hit it
hit the spot? Didn't hit the spot and we got
to have a good conversation. Uh oh man.

Speaker 6 (01:48:09):
You know the funny thing is we're eating pizza. Ghost
Girl Texas texted me she's already like home and she's
already gone to bed.

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
She was goddamn rookie.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
A lot of energy.

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
Yeah. Yeah, those boys had a three hour ride. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
Oh, rich you know what this is. Oh so we
forgot to add about that audio of that camera. I'm sorry,
get the back up a little bit on those.

Speaker 6 (01:48:39):
Eyes in the you can hear in the background you
can hear footsteps going. You know, you can hear the snaps.
It's like, have your footsteps, something's walking.

Speaker 5 (01:48:50):
I want.

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
Eric and Tim have the video. I think Brandy does
two at this point. Have the video. If you are
hot the banter, Richie Bee Live Messenger crew, I will
put that video in there and you can listen to
it as well. And you can hear the footsteps. So again,
we are not gatekeepers. We've had we've had we've had
the footage and we wanted to make sure it was

(01:49:15):
worthy enough to present to you. That's what we don't do,
you know what I mean. We had a great time chat.
Thank you for stopping by me and you have a
good evening. Friend. I can't wait to get you and
James on on the show as well, because I I'm
dying to hear about you guys's research and excellent researcher
both year. Thank you very much. Chet So yeah, Seelanda Claude,

(01:49:38):
nice security work today? Do you who? Do you? Who
kicked ass today? By the way, she's a moderator on
the live and we had we had some pretty nasty
dudes come in one where I kind of lost a
little bit and might get hit with a monetization penalty,
but I don't give a ship. He said some pretty
shitty things to me, so I can be way shittier
than you. Remember that, oh show, Oh yeah so so.

(01:50:06):
But upon closing this evening, I'm gonna play the I
want to play our commercial again that Sam made. I
think it's just that awesome and I want to commend
her for her work. And i'd say hard work, but
she makes it look so easy, man. She just makes
it look so easy. She's currently getting her diploma right
out in Vegas. I don't know exactly the time schedule

(01:50:28):
of it. Does everyone on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
She just landed at six fifty one.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
In Vegas, so she's getting diploma. Does everyone here on
their shows have their own channels? So yeah, so I
always promote and I did at the beginning of the show.
The Cobble Mountain Credit Festival by the Vogel brothers, Tim
and Eric Vogel have the Cable Mountain Critic Project. So
I want you to go over and follow them on
their Facebook page Cobble c O B B L E

(01:50:56):
Mounting Mountain, Mountain Jeeps, Yeah Festival, and make sure you
follow them on that page. All right, And the Credit
Project has a Facebook as well, Right, isn't that two separate?
So there's two separate facebooks. One is the Carble Mountain
Credit Project. This all helps children get back out in
the woods and relearn about wildlife and relearn about uh.

(01:51:20):
I say relearned, because we've all forgotten this path. And
it's sad too many kids, including mine, on screen doing
different you know, things like that as opposed to putting
boots on getting an ass out. Unlike Mannix, he gets
his ass out, so he gets.

Speaker 8 (01:51:35):
Screened without their education or out the education.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
Yes, so then they're here to educate, so yes, great question,
Please do that and Brandy. Where can they find you at?

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
It's finding me on Facebook or Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
And and and and Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
I'm building the ghost Girl. Yes, you'll see ghost Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
Just see ghost Girl. All right, just see ghost Girl.
Just you know you know what bro? How about it
is googlerr bro. All right, got Brandy, I got Y
Sampson on faced Brandy, I got you, I got you,
I got you. Ohio Bigfoot research is on YouTube. Yeah,
everybody on the right side. Whenever you guys want to
put it in your comments your pages. Again, we're not gatekeepers.

(01:52:20):
I will click the button. Everybody can see it. I
share around here. I don't care about what anybody else does.
That ain't what I do. And also on Facebook, Ohio
Bigfoot researchers. Please check them out. Dammian, what do you
got going on? Anything good? So going forward as ghost
Girl crypto converted or will the new skills carry forward
for future investigations? I think she's added it to her repertoire.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Yes, it's added absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Do you you gotta see the commercial one more time?
Don't just walk off whatever you feel like? This is
our damn show.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
Do you the Texas Twister? Here you go?

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
Do band? Richard Be commercial by Sam Hunting aka Sam
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Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
I love your baby Jackson, I want you guys to
keep climbing. I love your mama, or just gonna get
his out of here because that's what he does.

Speaker 5 (01:54:35):
Yes, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
Keep climbing, baby.

Speaker 4 (01:54:57):
That's badass.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
I just love that man. What that is just amazing.
So we're gonna put that out there for everybody to
share it. Hopefully please share it, you know, bring some
awareness to what we're doing, what this movement is all about.
This isn't just about research. It's about researching with you,
with them, with all of us together, as you've seen
here tonight, not just a collaboration, but a family and

(01:55:20):
a teamwork type mentality. Not afraid to say what's on
your mind, not afraid to share what your beliefs or
thoughts are. This is a complete safe zone from anybody
shitting on your research, or your theories and thoughts, your
hypotheses however you want to look at them. You are
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(01:55:41):
mean the other guy has to believe or even like
what you do. It's just this is what we do.
Because you hear things and you go, oh shit, you
just maybe think of something you saw it here tonight
through conversation, through the quest for facts. You heard it
here tonight. I had to stop and think. I went,
oh my god, maybe that's it. Maybe that's a cloak
bigfoot with an ir light that hit the eyes and

(01:56:02):
then not self illuminating. Maybe that's the case that would
that happen here tonight through conversation with fellow researches. That's
what you should be doing. Get some other researchers in
your area, open everybody's eyes together and hear them out,
and that's how we're gonna find the answers to these mysteries.
You know. Again, I want to say thank you to
Sam from Sam's Pretty Paranormal. Not just Sam's from Sam's

(01:56:24):
Pretty Paranormal, but our producer, dammit, and our family member.
We love her very much. We're super excited for her.
We're going to congratulate her on her diploma, and we
are the luckiest show on the planet to have her.
Trust me, you've seen it right there that commercials she made.
I want to thank everybody on the side for being
here tonight. Thank you for all your participation. This is
your podcast as well, not just Olurys Live when we're

(01:56:48):
in the woods. That's your investigation too. Come look through
our camera, put on your headphones, put it up on
the sixty five inch TV or whatever you got, and
walk around with us and discover things with us, your
discovery as well. I truly believe that, and I truly
have told you that, and I've shown you that. So
thank you to the Vogel Brothers for being here. Follow

(01:57:09):
the cable mounted credit festival page get there right away.
June seven, twenty five. Oh my god, it's approaching.

Speaker 8 (01:57:15):
That's what do we do.

Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
I get to beat a bunch of researchers that I
just love and respect that I'm just super pumped about.

Speaker 5 (01:57:26):
That's going to be awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
Oh thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Is there anything you want to say here? Like, what
do you need? Do you guys need vendors? I've been
watching advertising for that. You want? You got an email?

Speaker 5 (01:57:36):
I want to shut up. We always use vendors.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
Say the email again, you're gonna send it to Wow, I'll.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
Forget it anyway. Yeah, the vendors. We're pretty full on speakers.

Speaker 8 (01:57:56):
I've got requests from all over the country for speakers.
We're we're good with speakers and that that's awesome. It's awesome.
That people want to share their story like that. But
we're we're heavy on speakers.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
I could use, uh, like.

Speaker 8 (01:58:12):
Somebody that makes fry do maybe some Italian.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
That kind.

Speaker 5 (01:58:19):
We got an acoustic band coming in, so we've got
we've got some really cool things that are going to
be there. But we can always use more vendors.

Speaker 1 (01:58:27):
All right, So vendors, you've heard it there, get over
to that Facebook page. Tell your friends if they are vendors.
New York area, Connecticut area.

Speaker 8 (01:58:34):
We're only going to get it through Wild Guy, through Eric.
Everybody else's boot crap out there. Why amazed at the scammers?

Speaker 5 (01:58:41):
Oh, sign up?

Speaker 8 (01:58:41):
They hijack our post and you know, if you're sharing
our post out there, check it once in a while.
Eric is the only one that's booking that can do booking.
Everybody else they jump on and say, oh, we're still
looking for vendors. They're scamming me. It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:58:57):
It's like a full time job just going through.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
Welcome to the.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
Mid Shows, Welcome to the Big Show.

Speaker 6 (01:59:04):
What is the what is the email addressed wild.

Speaker 5 (01:59:07):
Guy at yahoo dot com?

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
So wild nide so the wild Guide with no pants
is the wrong one? There, I got an email from
the other thing.

Speaker 8 (01:59:16):
That's a different one.

Speaker 1 (01:59:17):
Oh different. Okay, yeah, I thought he was a ween of.
I thought he was a wiener.

Speaker 6 (01:59:32):
Who knows, baby, being rich might show up with some cowbo.

Speaker 5 (01:59:37):
What you're gonna end up with?

Speaker 14 (01:59:39):
Follow me on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube.

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Hit the like, subscribe and notify so you know when
we're going live. Baby, all right, we are out of here.
I love you, Mama, I love you, Mama. I love
your baby.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:59:51):
Thank you so much for everything. Take us out of here, Brandy,
thank you for being here.

Speaker 5 (01:59:55):
Ghost girl, you rock.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Everybody have them keep climbing, won't you get us a here?

Speaker 4 (02:00:00):
It's nuts.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
Hey by the merch everybody, thanks for being on you.
We love you, and hey, we our home.

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