S03E16 The Elder, The Dogman, and The Ci'Tanya

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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the woods and the stories around the fire lurks one
of the greatest mysteries of our time, Bigfoot. For decades,
legends have echoed through the forests, footprints left behind, sightings

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Speaker 1 (01:37):
I love you, baby Jack. I want you guys to
keep climbing.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I love you Mama, or just gonna get his out
of here, because that's what he does.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yes, let's go.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Good morning. Welcome to Banter with Richie Bee Live these Yep,
there is something going on here behind us. After the
trees were fucking moving everywhere. Yeah, bro goosebumps mad at

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you with me? We looked this way. It was not
like this. Welcome to Banter with Richie Bee. Yo.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
What's up everybody? Oh yeah, that's righty back. Yeah for
a while.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm live. Look at that. Say hijo boom, boom and boom.
What's up?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Oh that's Wojo's pot. He's supposed to say boom something
like that. Whoa hey, just in the nick of time.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's right, Jim. Welcome the Banter, Richard be Live. We
are here.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Things are good. I got my co host on the side.
Our guest has arrived. Excellent, excellent. I think our flight
was late. Just kidding. Thank you, everybody. Welcome the Banter,
Richard Be Live. It is Saturday at six pm, he said.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Time.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
This is when we all like to party and have
a good time. Welcome everybody on the side. We're gonna
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Speaker 1 (04:07):
Absolutely that too.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
By the way, there's a lots absolutely going on, Jim,
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Speaker 1 (04:24):
It is absolutely kick ass.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Let's get the co host in here right now so
we can say hi because the comments are going crazy.
I see some new faces out there too, faces as
in names.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Because I can't really see faces. Just in case you didn't.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Know, tonight, we are here with Elder Medicine bear Claw.
That's right, absolutely, super, super excited, super I don't know,
I'm just we just love her man. She's just an
amazing human being. And we're gonna learn a little bit
more about Bigfoot and you know, from the native inside, right,

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so we've learned a lot and we want to share
it with you. The different names, the different you know,
types of this, I don't know, I've heard a bunch
of different names you know. I got a couple of
questions for her as well. So let's get Woju in
here and say hi to everybody because the chat is burning.
It is on fire, and Elder please sit tight for
a few minutes. Enjoy the grapes in the back in

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the green room. Thank you, fresh grapes. Wojo picked them.
He's good like that.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
And just back from picking grapes. My co host, the
Wojo is here tonight.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
Hey, Hi, Hey, oh oh, I'm sorry, okay, yet day.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
What's happening all?

Speaker 6 (05:40):
And hey, how you doing, Britchie? Yes, I did practice. Yeah,
I did practice. Picked in grapes, so I hope Elder's
enjoying them.

Speaker 7 (05:49):
Sorry, I woke up, Darren, I get that bull rock
to your house? Here, fool, where's he at? Where's Darren at?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hello? Derek, say hello to everything you make up on?
Yet good? Say hello? Here he is? Where is he?
Where is he? That's my right there? What's man face?
My brother? Like? No, you look great. Just waking up

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in the morning. I'd curl up next to you. Yeah,
he's got his favorite cologne and he's got it is
to go. Yeah, let's go up.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
You want to see hid the people on the side
because the thing's on fire and we gotta hurry up,
and we're I can't.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I can't keep up. It's crazy. I just I tell
you what. I love it. I love it. I love it,
I love it. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I don't care if there's five people watching, as long
as they're all talking and joining the hell out of themselves.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I don't worry about numbers. I just worry about happiness.
It's just all about being happy and de who was
the first one? And what's up? Do who?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
And let's see what's up? Hello, Griff, how you doing.
I'm trying to see that. Hey Griff, she's got me curious.
Ooh shoots, I'm hitting them buttons again that I shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Michelle is here.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Hello Michelle, Hello, Hello Michelle Oche.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
My lifelong friend, Miss Mary Newbert love you. Mary.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh very Spocky is here. Don't forget to smash that
like button. You heard the man hit the like button.
Please let the rest of the world know that way here.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Let me go a lot of hellos to each other.
I just love that stuff, dude.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
That's what we're all about too.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
If I if I miss you. It's because I'm do
who we said? Hi?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, okay, they're.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
All talking Sam. Sam's here, fresh from the grocery store
by the way.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
Hey, Richie, I wonder if she broke any eggs or
squish the bred Oh no, I wonder.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
If she actually got her groceries.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I mean, there was a rumor that she was at
the grocery store waiting in the line where they had
they delivered up to your number, like a slot fourteen
or whatever, and she just drove away without them because
the Banter Richie B podcast was on. I'm just saying
that's just a rumor, but that might or may or
may not have happened, you know what I mean. Let's

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see so, Yeah, Sam's here. That is our producer. Yeah,
Griff's getting to know people.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I like that a lot.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Spocky on the other one, Okay, okay, and what's up CP,
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Man?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Welcome to the show. Welcome to the Banter Richie B.
Fo Yeah to do oh. I checked out the podcast
we recently on Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yep, Spocky, Oh boy, Spocky's got Spocky's Paranormal Outdoors doing
some podcasts talking some bigfoot talking some ghosts.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Levon is here. Hello, Lavon, Hey Levon, how you doing?
All right?

Speaker 3 (08:40):
I gotta pick I gotta pick up the pace because
I know they're talking.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So many people talking right now. I love it, man,
I like, well, Ye, Damian Smith's here? What's up? Damien?
What was it just yet?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Last night when we did our Friday IM PROMPTU live man,
we had five hundred and eighteen comments or something.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
You know. Yeah, it's very interactive, man.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
It's awesome on a Friday night, just hanging out with
friends and lifting each other up.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Cast is hair? What's up your Winka's up there? Bro?
Let's see all right? I think I got everybody. Patrick Doyle,
what's up? Patrick Doyle? How you doing? How you doing? Hey?
What's going on? Patrick?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Jean Tukesberry's hair the one of the only miss that's right.
Your picture is your at you drew it? Well, that
is freaking cool.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah. If you see see the picture, Rich, it is
pretty cool. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'm gonna I'm gonna get bbup to get all up
in that and check it out. Almost squashed my bread.
Oh no, things of life. Oh Cep says. It usually
hides in the shadows. So you've been here before. You
just that's fine. I'm glad you stepped out.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I hope he made you feel comfortable in older enough
to do that, you know, because you know my story
goes is I had sasquatch experiences in my backyard eight years.
I didn't want to say nothing, the same type of thing, right,
just kind of sat in the background.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Something trigger me boom. You know you brought me in
the shadows. Yeah, and then I brought you out of
the shadows. Boy, you look way better in the shadows,
by the way.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
So anyways, yeah, so tonight we're about to sit down
with elder mother a medicine vehicle. I always want to
say mother because she's she kind of mothers us sometimes.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah she does. I'm sure she's nodding. Yeah, you know.
Super amazing And we're gonna get into all the different things.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
That she makes, the the the jewelry that she makes,
the smudge kids that she makes, the medicine bags that
she makes for protection, uh for.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Us to wear.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
We go into the woods and it's just been amazing.
And I want you guys to see this and be
part of this and enjoy this. Ask your questions. Uh
being respectful, obviously, we are speaking with an elder of
the Native American.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I'm bleeding.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Sorry, I cut myself working on my car and I
just was hit my hand and I'm bleeding. There's something
with my hands tonight. You notice that I don't know
what it is. I'm a little nervous energy or something.
I don't usually get nervous, but I get elder here,
So let's let's stop talking. Let's get elder in. Let's
sit down and enjoy ourselves. Let's have fun. Now elder
is here. Out of respect for alder, I want everybody

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to put their pants back on. Okay, all right, so
let's do that, all right, And elder, are you ready
wave your hands like this?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
If you're ready, wave your hands and I love it.
And here she is. Everybody welcome Elder medicine be a claw,
hands reaching out.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Hello, dance okay, hell yeah? Hey, greeting excellent?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
How did you like Wojo's opening? Did he do good?

Speaker 5 (12:00):
She tried?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I did. I was trying to grid you. You're surprised
with her insufficiency inefficiency. You're probably don't like this. Oh no, well, Joe, no,
I love it. How are you today.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
I'm good. I'm very high spirit today, high energy. I
do have a visitor back here, so those who have
good eyes you might catch her. She is around me.
Oh mine, you come here, and they're very much welcome.
They've been following me more over forty five years.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
And that's some of the stuff I want to get
into because well, first of all, we obviously know that
she or he you said she she Yeah, so she's
a fan of the Banter Richie podcast, clearly right.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, We're gonna know him real shortly. We gotta know
it quickly. So so, and this is the thing. And
it's funny because I don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Sometimes when you sit down with certain people, like the
people that you don't know, you kind of I don't
research nothing.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I like to add lib.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I like the natural expressions and reactions. Well, Joe takes
notes and he has some great questions and adds such
a great balance.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
To this, you know what I mean. And uh, excuse me,
High Country Road Cryptids, welcome to Panther Richie b. This
is the new faces in there. Tight. It must be you.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Everybody's saying hi to you on the side by the way.
And I want you to feel that love and hip.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
Means thank you, and create means and blackfoot and we
will say more love and we can do kohe, which
is also an hole in patchy. So many of us,

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we usually try to say welcome, greetings. Oki. You know,
I have a list since you said you wanted to
know native names, so I was trying to write them
all down. When I was speaking with the other council members,
they said, it's fine that we can communicate with other humans,

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but don't give out our sacred things.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Me.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
I still want you to learn and know. And this
is what I thought to help those two understand when
you are out there learning about our indigenous ways.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
So yeah, and we try.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
I mean, I mean you know that, and I'm sure
you've won't be you're here because you feel the respect
from us and everybody around us, and we try to
be very and our I think the way we do things,
you know, it's very respectful. You know what I mean,
And I'm sure you'd be the first one to tell
us if we weren't.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
When I use the mic, it because my mic I
haven't set to a certain language when I'm doing meetings
zoom meetings, and uh, sometimes I'll type something else and
my bones wall doing that.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
So yes, yes, my friend Denny wants to know. Was
that when he says who was in the room? Was
it your spirit guide? Would you explain?

Speaker 5 (15:44):
Orpa is orpa is my uh my clan from Blackfoot
res she's here, she has been uh okay met sasquatch Yep.
She is a five toe, she is reddish brown. She

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is ten feet tall and the size of the sixteen.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Interesting.

Speaker 6 (16:14):
Interesting, So Richie, I don't mean to cut in front
of you, but yeah, she described you know what that
sounds like the love black Cave.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'm just saying. So we've got to get to that. Yeah,
that's that's that's jumping right to the bottom of the Oh.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I'm sorry. Oh no, I love it. I think it's
a great distal. Sorry, stop that, non no, because it's guys. Yes,
not not to me. I mean, what would you apologize
to me for.

Speaker 8 (16:44):
It's just it's respectful respect, you know if all those
in here I be saying something else.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
No, let's be honest to you. Just be yourself.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Oh, believe me, Mama ring Feather was a lie. She
is my godmother and she would come at least three
times a month here from Canada, and she her mouth,
her potty mouth.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Patrick Doyle want, I'll.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Do you Richie?

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, oh well, okay, I would let her all do
be because I am a gentleman. So is she over
Patrick Doyle says? Patrick Doyle wants to know if she
is over your left shoulder? Yes, okay, yes, Patrick, good observation.
And what I'm sorry? What is her name again?

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Okay? B a or that is so cool, dude.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
If I knew this stuff before, I have seven kids,
they would all be named like Uba and and Sitanya,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Like I would have so much fun with it. Is beautiful,
all right.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
So, so you're of the black the Blackfoot tribe in
California or was there another location that you were?

Speaker 5 (18:08):
There is a Blackfoot tribe that is in Wyoming. That's
where I'm a religion from. But I was born here
in the state's uh Nevada.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
That's all okay, Okay, my.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Manuche she said that we weren't going to live on
the reds, that I wanted me to have a better education.
But Manush's grandmother and manash Is mother, so they they said, no,
you're not going to collect from the government. You're going
to learn to work and supply for yourself and your family.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
I think that's amazing. And and now what happened? How
does one all right? And it might be a little
naiete of me. I don't know this stuff. And this
is why one of the reasons why I could wait
to sit down and talk to you, and the beautiful
pot about this conversation is tomorrow we get to celebrate
Mother's Day and and you are one of the five
ladies in the My My mom My mom a in

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the month of May, and that we have dedicated this
whole month to Mother's.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Day and all the mothers all around the world. And
it's so nice that we get to sit with you
and and have this conversation because I get to learn
a different perspective.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Perhaps of Mother's Day. No maybe, Yeah, so we'll get
to that as well. But Happy Mother's Day to all
the mother's out day. Because I'm not gonna I'm not
going to see you tomorrow, so I'll say it now
and I'll say it again later.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Is that is that? Is that a train? Oh? I
thought I was bad.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
I thought I think that sounds like a coal burner.
Is that a coal burning train sounds like a coal burner?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
How does one a train.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
To the right of me? And then I got a
canal that connects like a y on the left of me.
Then I have our cornfields is like a U and
I meet the houses in the middle because we were
in a mobile home park and they stay in the
Dell state inside the corn but mine. She comes in

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my patio.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Oh interested, So can I ask you?

Speaker 3 (20:27):
I just want to get to a little bit of
the Blackfoot and Native Americans and things like that.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
How does one And then I'm going to go right
into the big Foot? How does one become? You know?
How are you blessed to be an elder? Like? How
does that happen?

Speaker 5 (20:39):
I am the youngest that I know of, and it
was by boat because I did tracting with Chief Red Hawk,
which is another mentor like a father to me and
my Ring Feather. I had thirty eight tribal nations vote

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me in and I started tracking. When I was five,
I did my first dare killed at fide and earn
up the respect more and more. And when I turned twenty,
I was learning to become a medicine.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Moment interesting, So you had your first bear kill at five. Yeah,
I was like, I heard it. I heard it loud
and clear. But I was like, huh.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
And that's a sign of building up the respect amongst
the others, right, the other tribes, all right, because that's.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
How I got my name.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Oh right, understood it?

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
A medicine beveh claw right? Okay?

Speaker 3 (21:44):
And and and then when you come come to the
for the vote. You guys have the vote, right, And
now are there things and I'm not asking particulars, are
there things beyond that vote that make you in other words,
secrets or again I'm not asking about them, I'm just asking,

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is that what happens?

Speaker 5 (22:06):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Interesting? Interesting. So there's things that you have about your
tribe and about your history that you get to keep
and then share when the time is right or allowed,
so to speak, one is allowed to speak.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Yes, I'm also an attorney for our tribal nations, which
is over five hundred tribals.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Wow, you are the attorney for your tribal nation too.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
You are sign the papers in case they are trying
to get their home and their property. There's a lot
of government I can't go to in details, but yes,
I do a lot of that help them either with
law or trying to do with government, trying to receive

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the income that they are all to. If they are
mixed with other nationalities, there is a possible chance you
can collect So I help to do that.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Interesting, why you know, And that's the best part. This
is what I love about interviewing and being an interview right, well, Joe, because.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, you do a great job.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Oh like that didn't mean that, but thank you, because
you know, my mind is constantly going up to the
point of the interview, right. Like I said, I don't
research or nothing. I just want to know organically things, right.
I want to learn things organically and have a reaction
like everybody else gets to have a reaction, right. And
and when I'm sitting here leading up to yours, I'm going, man, like,

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we're gonna talk about Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
We got plenty of time. Obviously it's a long show.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
But it's like I kind of want to know because
if I know the ins and outs, not deep in again,
disrespectful ends, but if I know something of your background,
in the tribe's background, then I can understand why the
Sasquatch time was a Stania's uh name you use as well,

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is so respected and revered and understood in your way,
whereas to if I just sit here talking about Bigfoot,
then I'm gonna kind of go backwards after every sentence
when you blow my mind with something, I'll be like,
wait a minute, time o't But it's funny because and
it's organic, because nothing's written down. But so when you're
a young girl, and have you always lived in where

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you are now or you did you grow up?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Did you?

Speaker 3 (24:29):
I think you said you were your tribes from Wyoming
and you were born here Arizona where you are now?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Did I say Arizona, I met Novada? You mean, yeah,
that's what I meant.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I always get those two mixed up. I even did an.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Elementary my mother at the time. My mother was it
was time to pop out. Le' say what was that?
The lucky Noveda arena Noveda So okay, all right, So
that wabbled around with the family, back and forth, back

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and forth.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
And I mean, I because I think that's just amazing.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
So when you all right, so when you're coming through now,
when you're a young girl, and this is where we
get into big Foot and stuff, and maybe it goes
with what Damian Smith wants to know when when you're
a young girl, what happened to me?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
What do you do to me?

Speaker 3 (25:24):
I'm back, when you're a young girl and you start
talking about you know, Sitanya and all that stuff, how
prevalent in your upbringing?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Is it? Meaning? Do they talk to you about it?
As soon as you can understand? Is that? When?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Is that when the conversation is I'm gonna say su
squatch for everybody else so they don't get confuse as
to what we're talking about.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
So when when I was seven, I got my first
sight and it was a female and she is the
one that is behind me and she is also It
took time and trust and patience, and they said, once

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you have sight, and you keep having that communication as
you're walking mother Earth and there is many entities of
the creatures out there, but you would be marked so

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and if you are gifted with that mark, that means
you are titled to speak to them and they will
speak back, which is true. I have the marketing of
three other clans, so they do who she is. And
they all told me when things are going to change,

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let your community know, and I do. This is what
I do on my life. Change is coming, Maraene is
coming flooded, is coming? Birth rate for coming?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Mhm and like what so what with what Damien says
to Damon asks about uh do you believe he calls
him Sassy? He's from uh you know, I think you
know Damien from the live events he's out in Scotland.
Do you believe Sassy is an alien or evolved guardian
of the Earth that attracts UFO activity? Is that because
he's seeing that there's a connection that obviously the correlation

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is is out of space?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Is there anything you could say that comment.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
Satangas I don't like the star people. They are considered
the second of giants. So the star watchers, what we
say down here on Mother Earth is the star people,
but they live among us here. They will communicate with

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the orquatch, big flips. There is times where they are
telling us what other star people are doing.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
So all right, so well that there's something that's very interesting.
So I'm sorry, well I'll get you into but I'm
just she got my mind.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
No, no, no, I'm really intrigued that I'm on zoom
got my mind going.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
So you could draw information from the sungas stungas and
and and go to them kind of like like guides
in a sense where Okay.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
I'll tell you this, Richard. Yeah, you have a female
that is in your backyard. She has been following you
since you're about twelve.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Oh that's mind blowing. Okay, go ahead, yep.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
And she's always on the left side of your backyard.
She says that in her time. I'm sorry, this is
what I gotta say, she says. And hard times you hurt,
but you challenge yourself on it.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Interesting. Yeah, that's correct.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
Did you do go out there? You open your door
and you say she says, you're very loud.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, she's right.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
The twelve year old is interesting because that's when I
believe I had my first experience, but it was in
another state. That's what the crazy pot is about that.
So yeah, that the twelve year old is is definitely
what I thought.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
I saw you, know what I mean, and then you
because you had eye contact, it.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Was they got goosebumps. It was quite startling.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
And I remember being a young boy on the side
of this mountain and doing this, and that's what I did,
and I ran like a bad words, very fast.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I ran very fast. How are you. Well, that's for
you to know.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
So would you because this is one thing I've always
felt about myself. Would you feel feel as if so
by saying that, actually you would feel as if I'm
mocked in a sense? You are, yeah, because I have
felt that for a long time. And I've been a
sensitive my whole life, so I've dealt with a lot

(30:24):
of different different things.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
You know, she has tried to communicate with you, and
this is why she says to hug the trees. Mm hmm.
And there's times you're you know, you say you need
to hug a tree. This is what she's trying to
tell you.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, you're right, yep, No, that's that's well, that's I'm
honored to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I really am honored.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
And I've had uh so many times where I'm you know,
that spot when you don't know and you're clouded by
the human activity in the world, and you questioned things,
but you also know down and here you know what
I mean, what is you know?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
What what is true?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
You know? And I've been in those situations like, for instance,
when I was out in the woods that day and
I was meditating, and I remember hearing.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
I control the animals. And it's a it's a sentence
I'll never.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Forget because it was in my mind's eye because I'm
a sensitive so I know how to use a mind's eye,
and and it was I control the animals.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
It was a direct response to me communicating.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
So but to go out and just tell somebody that
at the you know, let's say that at the grocery
store like Sam did today and just be like, oh,
by the way, in my mind's eye, Bigfoot says that
they control the animals, you know what I mean, Like
they'll just be like, okay, white white jacket on Aisle seven.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Now, how right?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
So But but speaking of that, though, how how do
you deal with some of those things now? Because because
when I speak what I hear from you, I the
stand wo do you understands the respects and likes? But
not all of humanity is the same way.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
So they're not open minded. You have to have an
open mind when you're entering the forests of the woods,
because you have no control there. You're going to have
to rely on Mother Earth and what is your surroundings.
So there will always be your guardian angel is always
going to be around. Everyone has a guardian angel. Right now,

(32:28):
when you are entering the forest or the woods and
you're up high, then if you're hearing things and then
all of a sudden you feel something touch you, and
then all of a sudden you got goosebumps and you're like, oh,
like you got shocked, and you're like, you're freaking out.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Do that.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
That's the most thing to do, is filled fear, scared,
and nervous, because they can sense it. Any entities, any
cryptos in, all animals can kill you. I can feel
you from ten miles twenty miles.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Interesting. Interesting, And we've been there before because I'm Bojo.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
You know, I've gone up to a location before we've
even gone into the woods or anything like that, and
I've told you exactly what I'm feeling, and then boom,
we have something like that. Ojo's experienced me say that
stuff out loud?

Speaker 1 (33:23):
How old? Yeah, well, the time that we got spooped.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
But before that, see Richies usual when he's talking to
you all, I'm usually like a few feet ahead of hum,
so I can't hear the conversation. But at one point
I did hear him say that you know, something's watching us,
and I thought I heard something. I'm like where, and
you'll show me the general direction and I'll be like, no,
I don't hear nothing. And then as we continue on

(33:55):
into our journey through the woods, and all of a sudden,
you know, the trees.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Out of shaken. You know, you can hear them.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
Yeah, And I just sat there like what Richie's like,
stands to the left. He did say to the left
before it all happened, because I just looked at him
like this, And then all of a sudden, I just
heard the first crack of a brand and I can
just see everything shake.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Now I'm just trying to like what I'm waiting for,
you know, some some something to come out of the woods.
It's just shaking. You can hear the snaps. But at
the same time that's going on, because he's just like,
you know, like, wow, I'm hearing another one to my
right at one o'clock, I'm hearing the same thing movement.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
I go, I think we got two of them, rich
and it's it's it's pretty exhilarating. And then we we
try to stay calm, and yet you can still hear them.
You know, they're low to the ground and you could
put you can tell there must be crawling or something.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I could. I could. I was like telling them, hitch,
I still hear the snaps.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
I will say this because I noticed there has been
a lot of questions in your live or when you're
like alive. Now, do they go on all fours? Yes,
because they will to blend in with the bush the tree,

(35:29):
and sometimes they will cloak in the tree and you
can just see the outline of the face.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Right right, and that's you know.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Have you seen the video of Ozma are from our
game camera with the with the two lights that are
moving around together, but you can't see anything else. I'll
put it up a little bit for everybody to check
it out again and and we'll get your take on that,
because I'm kind of interested to see your perspective on that.
Uh bear claw, is there a bigfoot around that you
could see? I don't know if you're here. Earlier she

(36:01):
mentioned she had a I don't know what that The
question pertains to Tim. That's Tim from Ohio Bigfoot Researches.
Everybody please check out Ohio Bigfoot Research. Is Tim Geott
his wife Renee Gayat will be part of My Mamma
in May. This amazing lineup of very very amazing Bigfoot ladies,
the Ladies of Bigfoot. She will be here on the

(36:23):
thirty first. She is the our anchor. Let's go very exciting.
So I don't know what he's pertaining through there, Like
I think it's what you said earlier. Is there a
bigfoot around that you can see? He's asking?

Speaker 5 (36:36):
No, she's here. She gets along with my clan from
the border of Nevada in California.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Now, when you say your clan, how how do you
get Now do you get your clan by going there physically?
Or do you get your clan by telling it? Okay,
so it's physical being there, Okay, I do both.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
When you guys are out there, I'm out there in
the tree.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
My husband knows not to bother me because my body
lives up and I do it for many channels. I'll
say three o'clock towards the left.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Oh yeah, you do. She does twenty ft tr right
what with? Oh yeah, she gets us a few times.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
I have a question, ma, So Richie's marked elder elder
excuse me, sorry, Mama, Like I did I know she's
just so everybody?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, So, well, Richie's mark what am I considered? Am
I like a am I like a circle? What am I?
Because I'm out there too, and I'm you know, never
been into a situation like this, Ben Mark, But.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
You aren't recognized because you you have really believed in
them for long, but you know there's something out there.
Rachie will have a red mark. This is how you know.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Through their eyes. You're saying, I'll have a red mark
through their eyes.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
Now you have a red mark on your body.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
I do right now somewhere.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Mh.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
I'm like, Chie, it's not a sniper, it's it's not
that red beam on you like that. But no, I
think it's amazing. And obviously I'm honored by that. And
I have felt that before because you know, and one
of the first investigators I went out in my backyard
with to help me kind of guide me research wise.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
And.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Said it to me on the way out, and he said,
I think they hear because of you. And that's such
a profound statement that I had never imagined anybody would
ever say to me. And I didn't really know what
he meant until I became more of a researcher. Right,
He says, I think they had because of you. They
know that you respect them, and they know that you
know they're comfortable with you. And it was funny because

(39:17):
I didn't tell him about the relationship pot that I
had with hoss Watches in my backyard because I literally
would go that. People ask me why, you know what,
some people don't like believe in knocking and some people
don't believe in whooping and all that stuff, And I
think it's up to them out there, not up to me.
And when I walked out in my backyard, I would

(39:38):
hear a knock way off in the distance, and after
the fifth time, I picked up a stick. After the
fifth time, not fifth knock, but the fifth time I
went out my backyard and I heard a knock, I
grabbed one.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
I knocked back. I was like, yeah, do you like that,
you know? And then bang, I got one back and
I went, oh, they like that.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
So then I started It was like, I'm knew when
I came out was to announce my presence to them,
and so I came out, and out of respect for them,
I hit a tree with it and then boom, I'd
get a soft knock way off in the distance or
over here, and I would know where they were positioned,
and I'd be like, I go about my day.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I'd wave to the wood day, you know what I mean,
and and just stop raking, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
And and I think it's I think to add to
your story, Rich, It's more it's an understanding. It's like
it's a good name of a bad neighbor, like a
of an acknowledgment.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
Yeah, I will say this, you're close, You're very close.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, but I will.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Say this there the dog man is more close to you.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Oh okay, that's gonna hurt a little bit.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
They're not bad.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
There.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
They run with the satangas. Yeah, we have heard many channels.
They don't.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
They do.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
We have a tribal that I cannot say the name understood,
but they honor the satangas. And there's always a dog
man with that satanga.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
I guess that would make sense. And it's not that
that dog man likes you more than Yeah, you know
I'm saying that.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
Why they would you be careful when you're going further out,
especially when I do say more to the left about
twenty feet that was our last your last life. And
that's when I hadn't also mentioned that because that's where
he was. He was standing up by the tree where

(41:50):
you had lit the ladder over there.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Oh oh yeah, yeah. Do you want to be a
hug or anything? Or is it just like no hugs
for you, bro, no hugs for you. I guess I
get no hugs. No, no hugs. The dog man is
gonna lick your face.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
So but but you know what's funny was because when
I first thought at all this, there wasn't a lot
of dog man stuff, right, well, lot of a lot
of dogs.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
There wasn't a lot I should say, not stuff, but
knowledge of dog man. So therefore it wasn't spoken of.
And that's just what a.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Decade ago, you know what I mean. But yet they
had to have been running alongside with them forever. And then.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
It's they're more like the protection even they will stay
and keep the boundary for the young juveniles. Yes, so
they're very, very protected. And there they say, oh, well,

(42:52):
how do you know? Well, I do know, and I
can't really say because there are our laws, the native laws.
But I do say when they are around, and one
will stay. And this is why I say, when you
go out and investigate, don't wear no cologne, don't wear
no deorderant, because that will attract them.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
And when you say attract them, though, in what kind
of a way rambunctious way? Or will they make love
to Wojo? Well, elder, I have to say it.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
I know.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
He's like, oh no, they won't get their attention in
a negative way. They might then if.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
They they'll get your your body oil it already releases
the scent. So but this is how I knew when
I watched you guys the first couple of times, and
I said, whoa, don't they see the dogman over there standing?

(43:58):
And my husband asked me, well, what do you do
when I don't bother me? I'm going to the room now.
He said, okay, and I sit. And I was getting there,
and you had a young boy with you, Richie, And
then there was another gentleman, and Waljo was going closer

(44:20):
towards where the college is yep, and right there you
had just passed the dog And I'm like, this one
seems very calm. I wonder if he likes him or
he feels that he can relate to Waldo. Right. So well,

(44:42):
just like that, I was trying, because you know what,
even if you have dog sent in you, they was
sent to interesting.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
So and Damien is again, you know, Damien, do they
cloak through genetics or do they alter our perc option
by different means?

Speaker 5 (45:06):
They do cloak when it is really necessary.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Gotcha? Gotcha? Gotcha? All right?

Speaker 3 (45:12):
So they but they can do that from within themselves.
It's nothing that they alter us with, right, gotcha understood?
Oh Ohio says just uh. He wants to know if
there's one around him. In other words, are you mocked him?
Is that what you're asking?

Speaker 5 (45:28):
If he's marked for Doug Man Bigfoot?

Speaker 1 (45:32):
He's very much in the Bigfoot very much.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
I'm marked, but I can't see him because I'm not
there to feel and I try not to go in
feel the people, right right, I asked theas you know,
don't be aggressive because some there there are some that

(45:59):
are very aggressive in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, That's what I'm kind of learning. And this leads
me to part of the question too.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Now, I've always had this theory that they're all over
the world, and I've had this theory that they're very
much like humans, and that they they look different in
different geographical locations, different diets, things like that make them big, small, wide, thick,
you know, whatever, it might be the colors are different
that they got to blend with, you know, like a

(46:29):
maybe more yetty's, so to speak, the white because of.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
The like.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
Or more dark gray with highlight white. That's how we see.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Them understood, understood, And that's what I've always felt that
that geographically it makes a difference, just like it does
with humans. And I have always felt that, well not
always I as I've learned and grown as a researcher,
I feel there's a higher being slash primitive human.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Mixed into them. Yeah, okay, all right, so how do
you so, how would you explain them?

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Like growing up?

Speaker 3 (47:15):
How we that's a great question growing up, you know,
you're you're within your tribe. You're having this conversation. Do
they do they teach that stuff?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Like in in school? Like what do you learn about
this just on the side by the campfire? Like how
does that happen?

Speaker 5 (47:32):
Sit in your backyard with the bonfire, allow nature to
take his course.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Understood, understood.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
So it goes with like the hunting lessons and the
tracking lessons and oh, by the way, just be aware this.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Is what else is out here? But they can are they?

Speaker 5 (47:50):
When you're tracking bears out DearS, moose. Now, there's different
kinds of bears bears, right, so you have to look
find out what is that print? Oh okay, that looks
like an olk? Or isn't it olk? Or is it

(48:11):
something else? Now, if you are wanting to know what entities,
there are many different ones now, and they will also
look like the same print as a deer or a
wolf or not as much as a moose because I

(48:32):
don't see them, but I've been told and I fizzy
about that one. But when you are out there and
the windlows, it's the same thing when you look for
their prints. So this is the windlows is what you

(48:53):
really have to look for. The dog man does protect humans.
And I'm going to say this again American people, because
a windlow can take your breath away just as much
as an it. And I'm us Indigenous natives are not
allowed to say the word and if you do, then

(49:17):
you're misbehaving our laws. Even from the elders. You have
to get permission from five elders to speak of a name.
Every channel that I've helped, I mean I've helped over
five hundred and I've had about three hundred and some

(49:40):
sponsored children underneath to teach them everything, but that it
when you are whistling at night, you're calling it to
come out from underneath mother Earth.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Okay, no, no, I And that's you know, because it's
funny because I've had that happen that that's happened to
me in my backyard where I've heard that direct, abrupt whistle,
and Mojo actually has heard it as well.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
They also mimic the same thing the wngolows shape shifters.
It's they. They will mimic a crying baby, a scream
sounding like a woman in heat.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
M so.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
And that's one of my questions, and one of the questions.
I think someone else that was asking it too. I
think it was probably Damien. Again, I'm sorry, I'm just
had to catch up to the chat when they're mimicking
oh do well? First of all, do the does subsquatch
mimic different animals and things like that?

Speaker 5 (50:51):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Okay, and doing that, I'm sorry. Good.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
The squirrels and robbins and what peckers, they're the ones
that will let humans know about the satangas or subsquatch.
Bigfoot uh ship shapo. These are own names called bigfoots.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Mm hmm and are they Are they mimicing to get
our attention? Are they talking to one another? Are they
mimicing to kind of distract us to look left and then.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
To distract distract you and to get the other clan
I'll say, or satangas to communicate and then you can
hear them chatter.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
M yeah, I've heard that.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
Because also too, they can pick up on a person's
fear or anger or like if they're trying to hunt them, right,
And this is how they'll communicate, and they'll have either
it will either be a dog man or it could

(52:09):
be a sanga on the other side of you guys.
Because you guys are so focused over here, you're not
worrying about what's behind you. Right, then that's when they
distract you. And then you're turning around and there they go.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Yeah, but you can remember too not sometimes they can't
cloak to get in. They can get in the tree
fast and then go to the other tree and you're not.
You guys are not like looking up or whatever. Right,
Everybody usually like just looking down. But if you look up,
they make nests in the trees.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
MM. Interesting. It's when Marty upfront, Marty came I did
look up up in the tree line, and I can
see the shine, the eye shine, and I just I
just kept peeking and I go, do I see something
up in the tree And I know because it kept

(53:12):
like doing this and I don't think and owl, well,
you know, peek back and forth.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
I know they move around a little bit, but not
the way the glow I was seeing was shifting. And
then it then, as I told him, it disappeared. But
as I'm looking at you now I have great vision,
a periphial vision, I saw another eye shine to my
left wretch, which was on the main path on the

(53:39):
left side of the woods.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
If we were to head back, and I go, there's
one right there. And then that's when we heard that,
you know, and you know when they do make calls
like that and what have you?

Speaker 6 (53:56):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (53:58):
I don't know, maybe the happy I mean, why would
they like, you know, it's almost like revealing themselves right there.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Okay, let me I'll say this. When you guys go off,
turnariy all the equipment off, you get more action. They
do not like to be on camera usually what I do,
and believe me, I don't really take pictures because I

(54:27):
have I have it all in my mind. They'll give
me a vision to see if I need to. When
you are not even ready to go live or whatever,
they'll drain your batteries your cameras really fast. Even as
you put the other batteries in, it's drained. So you

(54:51):
might as well leave it off. Try to communicate with them,
and then you hear sometimes I get a lot of
question emails. Can they understand English? Yes they can, I
am going to say it, yes, can't. Do they understand
other languages? Yes they do? Do they have their own language?

(55:16):
Of course? Now if you hear them talk and there's
no sound around you, you'll hear some words that are
in English.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
M hmm. Yeah, I've I've heard I've heard chatow where
it's sort of like humans were in the woods. I mean,
how many times have we said that? Wojo, We've been
way out there. I'm like, is that people out here
with us? We've literally heard yeah, Like, I'm like, is it?

Speaker 3 (55:43):
And we're out in the middle of nothing, nobody, nobody
has a reason to go out there. And not saying
that we haven't been in places where as humans, but
I've heard in places where I'm like, is that another
human idea with us, like literally could hear other people talking,
is what we would say. It's not like other people
talking like we've said that. People have probably heard us
on the live say it.

Speaker 8 (56:02):
And also different frequencies too rich, like meaning that the
higher pitch it just sounds more female.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Is remember we're like female.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, it seems to be a lot of
that is with the female as well.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
And you know, and the experience that I had with
them talking back and forth.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
They were eighty feet but I say eighty feet from us,
but it seemed a lot even closer than that.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
But there was two of them talking, one on each
side of us.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
And throughout this investigation, I kept saying, I kept doing this,
and I'm going like this because at by very edge
of my hair, and I could hear the crumbling of
the leaves, you know, like they were moving real slow
with us.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
And I kept doing this.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I kept staying up out here, and I remember being
afraid to say anything because I didn't want to be
the big foot, big foot, bigfoot guy. But I knew
what I was hearing, man, I was locked in. I
knew what I was hearing. And then when we got
done and we packed our stuff up. As you said,
all electronics won way, and this one started talking and

(57:05):
he was like it was a Claire language. It was,
you know, just trying to imitate a little bit of
what they were saying. And then that one stopped. And
then a much bigger one on my left picked up
where that one had left off and like answered him,
like replied to that other one who Josh and I went,
we were frozen. And then the second one, the one

(57:28):
that spoke first spoke, picked up again, but this time
when it was done talking, made this loud click like
a tree knock.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Oh well we oh right here. I think Tim said
that he saw that over your right shoulder. Oh, I
see you can almost see energy.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
Movement the outline when their cloak and when they're that
is what you'll see.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I see, I see that a lot. I see a lot.
So that brings me. That brings me to this real
quick right click this up. Yeah, I hit that like button.
If you guys are watching the show, was sitting here
with the elder medicine.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Bailey Claw of the Blackfoot tribe, and we are learning
some Native American side of Sasquatch, Satanga, Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
However you want to say it now.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
I have a quick question before I bring up this
this video. I want to show everybody again and have
get your take on it.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Just simple, just simple. How do I say friend? Because
I say it in my life, I want to say
it in yours. There we go.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
I had wrote many names down for you. Yes, okay,
ohho dance. I only here to visit you. Now I'm
going to say in my language, in pre oho.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
I in.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
I got to learn to visit my friend.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Oh see, I want to do that. While we're on
the subject of languages, Rich, I'm sorry, I do have
a question. So of course we do have an audio
of them speaking.

Speaker 6 (59:29):
Now, if we are trying to mimic of how they
were talking, is that disrespecting them by any by any means.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Or just or is it just a good communication way
to communicate.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
They have communicate with you. You just don't understand what
they're saying.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
I got to record this, baky no, and I I
feel that they have and we've even picked them up
on on on the record of without us there. But
uh then we go back sometimes during after our lives
and we listened to and I'm like, dude, is that
we'll hear that chatter.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Oh right that I'm going to say this. You know
how you guys were showing to stick with the peanut butter.
They do that. They each get a twig.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
And yeah, and we leave them a twig. And that's
the crazy thing. They stored it away to where they
could get it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
They knew the one that you were looking for. You
better look in the tree.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
It's like there, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
There's another one in the tree because there's three of
them all right, so there's two that one that we
have found.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
There is one long ago missing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
Yeah, that's the big male.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Oh yeah, the big meal is he's the one with
the red eyes. That freaked me out, you know what
I mean. Oh, let's see red eyes. Well, something looked
red to me. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
I was looking up at some red eyes, like this
guy behind me, this dude here. It was some of
these right here. I was looking at it because we
always try to figure out the color, like I see
yellowish green with a little bit of you. We've seen that,
we've seen the white, and I've actually seen the white
transform into a yellow and then yeah and a light green.
And then when I looked up, I looked up to

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the left. That's over here is what I saw. And
I went those red dude, and I went like this,
and I was trying. I was trying to convince myself.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
Sure's not the dougman that Oh boy, oh boy, she
did it again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Yeap, she did it again.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
And so when I looked up to the left, I
watched the head move like this, yeah, just like that,
as if to say, yeah, yeah, what you're thinking is true, buddy,
And I was like, what, Like, I really I freaked
out a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
I gotta be honest with you. I did, and I
don't freak out much.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
I'm pretty calm under pressure, and in a lot of
situations I've better. I've had paranorl experiences where ghosts were
like right here, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
So I've had all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
So that stuff, I've always been the one with the calmness, right,
doesn't mean I don't yell at what the F is
that on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
My lives, because I do. Hey, John, how are you?
Thank you for being here? So I got to learn
that sentence that you just said over and over again.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
So I wonder if you go on Messenger, you can
hit that little microphone thing and you can record your.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Ye, because I have to say.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
It over and over again in order to you know something,
we got to practice. I mean you know that, you know, Hi, Henry,
what Henry says, they have no neck?

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
They don't. They don't have no neck. Okay, Henry question
a year and a half ago, and Mini Channels says, oh,
yeah he had a neck and eat.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
No. No, I didn't say I saw a neck and
I saw a head.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
Yeah, but I'm just clarifying.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Oh no, I'm clarifying with Henry. You got that, Henry,
I'm clarifying with you, Henry.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Yeah, because that that that's all I said. I you know,
I said, it's funny that you say that, because this
is organically happening right now. I literally said, even on
the live like I just saw a whole head turn.
That's all I said. I never said, hey, I saw
a head.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
It was it was like this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
The whole thing just moved like that. It was all
one piece, like almost.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
It was crazy, crazy, And that's why I think maybe
if it was a dog man, I don't know, but
I'm telling you what I saw was like a bowling ball.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
And when you want to water a tree, make sure
you kind of scuffle in the bottom. So you just
marking someone else's territory and they went back and dated again.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Oh wojoe, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
I'm in like I'm in La La land right now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Well, yeah, you can get in La La land really quick.
Let's see what did Breed just say? Hy Breede?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
By the way, I don't think I said to Breathe
did I say breath? No? She was here before and
I saw her. Come on? What what is real though? Sorry? Ma?
Sorry sorry Ma? Is real though? I don't know what
that means.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
The ones, Leven says, the ones I have seen no neck.
Oh this is getting very very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
This is what I love.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
This is May I just have the floor for forty seconds,
probably longer because I'm gonna telling you this is what
I love. This is the don't be a gatekeeper stuff
that I talk about. And this is why I tell you,
don't be a gate keeper, don't hang around gate keepers?
Is non't need to Okay, because when you come here

(01:05:02):
and you have people being respectful and having conversation, I'm
hearing elders say there's no neck. Henry says there's no neck,
probably because he talked to elder, and they learned together.
And now he's seen them so and then someone else, Levonn,
who who was a seasoned researcher as well. The ones
I've seen have no neck. Now, if Levaughn was a gatekeeper,

(01:05:25):
we would have less information.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
That is huge. That is huge.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
This is why as researches and as people in general,
we should share things respectfully with one another, whether you
believe or don't believe. If you don't believe this, shut
up and listen, you know what I mean. If you
can't say something nice, don't say at all. You know,
But it's very very important in a research field like
this when we're trying to find out the things, you know,

(01:05:49):
Like I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Don't want to just I do you know they're here?
I do you know? They're real?

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
And I'm not worry about that. I want to learn
things about them. I want to know what we can
do to be better.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
What they you know, how they live and things like that.
Like I just have all those questions. It's just like
the Jane Goodall theory. I just want to sit down.
I wish I could sit down with them face to
face by the fire and have a chit chat and
find out what's going on.

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
Don't be surprised they do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Oh I at this point, I wouldn't be surprised about nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Now, oh, I'm gonna bring up that video real quick
and then I want everybody to check it out. Okay,
So this video, if you're new, here, is from our
game camera. I'm gonna play the original and then I'm
gonna zoom in for you. So I'll play the original
twice and then I'll zoom in and then we're gonna
get elder medicine bear clause.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Take on it all right, So here, enjoy this as
we sit on the side. So this is our game
camera looking out to the woods. Watch your right, ye

(01:07:03):
accident on Luca, the little skinny tree on the right.
Right here, the little skinny gray tree on the right,
right to the left, bat see what you're looking at? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Mm hmmm, we do that as well, Levon. Yes, okay,
I'm fine with you too, using my meets and all.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
So so there you go. So you saw that, and
now I'm gonna do a zooming shot. I have.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Let me go over here to video storage and I'm
gonna click on this and then i'm gonna bring it
up to your close. So there's that skinny tree again.
So if you're new and you haven't seen this video,
this is on a game camera that we have at
about I think it was two thirty six am.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Are we in trouble? What do we do?

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Bojo? Did it?

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
Now? Meet community?

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Bigfoot? Bend, Hey, Dodger, what's up?

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Yeah, notice this separation between I'm just gonna call them
eyes the eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
It almost looks like there's a blink, and they don't.
They don't move. They move together.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
They move together simultaneously with distance and with curiosity and intellect.
See how it goes down, comes back up and then
slowly scans right. And then that's when the video stops,
which stinks because I can only get so much video
off this satellite camera.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
I wish I could just watch the whole video.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
So I came uh and said to Waldron, I'm like, dude,
do we have like a cloaking bigfoot here that has
eye shine because of the ir and doesn't realize that
it doesn't have the soul.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
Now, they can cloak majority of their body and their
their head and their eyes can be going. But you
have a juvenile on the right and the left is
an adult.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
You take like the right eye the right dot. Like
when you say that, like like it looks like one
like it would be a big Oh. I see, I
see that in the background. I always picked that up
in the background the end. You pick that up in
the background in the end. More Joe, Watch the right one. Yeah,

(01:09:21):
watch it, Watch it right right as it comes past
the tree. Right, yeah, right there, you see the light
like it goes. Yeah, you see how it looks like.
It looks like a flashlight like it's going back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Right, it looks look behind it though, it looks like
a shadow peeking out from that tree. That's what gets
me sometimes. Watch that's where I have to control myself.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I see
what you mean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Because we saw we saw it as one big head
connected with the eyes, you know what I mean looking around?

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
Also true when you have when everybody tell us to
all the channels that work where to helped, and they
tell me, don't give them the information. I'm going to
give it to them. They will move your chem how
you saying you're credit, They move it so the other

(01:10:26):
ones will cross by ha, so something.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
They will move it we've had this, we've had this,
but we had this happen and.

Speaker 8 (01:10:39):
We we we had the gifting chair at a different
spot before this one right now, and we moved the
cameras in different heights, different spots, and we noticed that
the landscape looks a little bit different, and I go,
did it move this camera?

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Because you can hear like tapping sounds.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
Like they're behind the camera tapping just kind of you know, curiosity,
but you could tell that it must have.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
It just moved just enough. And what's amazing is that
they still got the gifts yep at the chair and
it didn't show anything.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
Okay, when you go back, see if there is three
more little ones prints, and also see if there is
a print on the chair leg on the back one,
the back right, So if.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
You're looking at the chair, the back right leg, see
if there's a print on that. And they've been messing
around with the back of that chair a lot lately lately,
underneath the chair.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
And then to find when we found this last pick
that they used first foot, the other one was buried
underneath it and we didn't know it was there for
months and well maybe yeah, maybe two months, right, And.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
I've seen eyes a few times during cloaking. Excellent, that's interesting, John,
thank you, and.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
I apologize. The Zinger rapper that you guys were missing. Yeah,
it's across that little creek. Yeah, it looks it looks
like the tree. It looks like it's dead. It's stuck
on there and it's kind of high. So look up.
If you guys happen to go back there, they might

(01:12:36):
move it now I say it, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
That's off diagonal to the right. I know what's one
she's talking about, because we were there well pretty.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
Much when we saw the Rich the girl our rapper
in that Yeah, the bedding area.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
You're talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
I'm sorry, Sorry, Rich there's a tree that's kind of
like the kind of like in the middle of the
creek and it slopes all the rich. Yeah, I know
a certain tree, and I wonder if she's talking about picture.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
We probably pictured the same tree. Dude. Yes, you know
what I'm talking about. You go across from that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
That's where the the granola bar wrapper that we totally
forgot that we even have that out there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
But I mean, I do want to.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
Picking up all wrappers and extras that I know you
guys have picked up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Yes, Yes, we try to do our best, and we've
actually do an investigation with a trash bag on our
belt loop and actually picking up from the other meatheads
that they don't like it. Yeah, they don't care, you know,
I know they don't. And every time I see it,
I say it, I'm like, I I've even said it
on the line. I feel like I should apologize these
guys for a foolish humans.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
But what is uh Matt talking about?

Speaker 9 (01:13:50):
Wojoh, he's probably talking so with that, remember when I
started with the guy encounter across the creek where we
you know, the area that the juveniles stepped in, excuse me,
not stepped in that where the juvenile was Okay, where
the game camera is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Right across from the game camera, there is a tree
that you can see to the far right of and
that's where we found the compression of the eighteen inch
by eight and a quarter inch right right by the creek,
right which is which is the same one we just

(01:14:30):
looked at the other day that I got the scammers.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
That's it's the same print, yes, but this is in
the post in a different spot right in front of it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
So if you go across from ock camera. If you
the game camera, A remember that bad there's a big
pine tree. That's where we thought. So if you were hit,
remember Matt was across the the bruck, right by the
the game camera. If you kind of come around ound

(01:15:01):
and look right directly at him, the print was right there,
right right. But he's emphasizing that we missed it. I think, well,
I think as we were there doing the guy accounting,
but we we never noticed it because I don't think
we really went that close to the creek. More so Matt, Well,
we were doing it more observed of what's around the

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tree area that the juveniles.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
What I'm saying is what I'm saying is we got
to get him out to investigate with us again and
then beat him up and duct tape him to a
tree for being a wise ass. And then after we're done,
we throw him back in the back in the brook. Yeah,
back in the brook, and then we load up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Yeah. So how do you like that? Matt?

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
And I didn't put the two together with the same
size prints we just found with Jess.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
I'm telling you, it's it's amazing. Like when he found that,
I was like, oh my god, how can I you know, oh, because.

Speaker 5 (01:15:59):
We if you take a female with you, please always
keep your head on the squibble.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Oh I do, yep. And but why what's the main
I keep Rich close to me? We were looking at
other things, bree, researches and athletes. Yeah, clearly, clearly.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
What's the main reason when when it's about females, what
what are we trying to protect them from?

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Besides wo Joe?

Speaker 5 (01:16:32):
Males will take males Like how that's when I said
when I told you stay close to Sam.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Because Brandy Brandy Brandy.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
Okay, oh yes, it was ghost girl. You're right, yes, Wow,
that's why I asked. Was she wearing any fume?

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
That was that was Joe because I could smell the perfume.
And if I can smell it, then they can. And
then they're like, they're like they can challenge you. I'm
not saying they'll take her, but you're like, you're in
their territory. They're like, oh, you're you're a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Yes, I will my woman. So I'm not gonna She
singles ahead, I'm not challenging your eight feet, Leave me
my woman and take my wo Joe? All right, he comes.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
I will say this. They do laugh when you're joking
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
I'm a bit of a clown. Yeah, yeah, that we
we tend to, yeah, find no matter where we are.

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
Have you ever heard how they.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Laughed now they laugh? Well, we might really like like
I'm kind of a sometimes you might think there's a wops, Rich,
and it's probably them laughing. That's like when I fell
on top of you on the ice. Yeahs clarifying when

(01:18:28):
they were laughing. She brought that up. She said that laugh. No,
I know what she's getting that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:32):
Yeah, and then she goes, by the way, you have
two of them, one to your left, what to your right?
And we just got a whoop on the left. And remember, Rich,
I told you there's something walking to the right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Yes, And how does she know that?

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
Yeah, because that one diagle out was out a little
ways and Max picked up on it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Remember Max kind of snapped his head around, was like whoa.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Yes, they were definitely laughing at us, bro, mainly you
for falling on top of me after I had already fallen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
You know what I mean. Yeah, that hurt too, Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
So they laugh so they laughed like butt head, Yeah,
that little a little goofy cast. Yeah, they're probably a
little goofy. I mean you think you got a big
set of lungs. You don't always get to control it
when it's in a certain you know thing, a certain position, right,
like you go like Santa, Like Santa Claus got big lungs.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
So all right, so that's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:19:28):
So listen, have you heard my call?

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Oh wait, what do you mean? Wait a minute?

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Time out rooted? Is this Are you surprising me with something?
Because no one said that you were going to do
a call, like like a like a uh a sosquatch call,
like like this is great, you'd be quiet just because
everybody loves wo Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Is this a trick? Is somebody tricking me? Are you
gonna wait? Are you gonna? Is this for you?

Speaker 5 (01:20:00):
You watched My Lives and I went on investigation at
uh my sponsored son, who I named him Sanga. I
did my call before I entered. I prayed and put
down tobacco. I could hear them all running, and he

(01:20:23):
was like already And he's like, oh my god, I
can hear them running for you, and they did my call?

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Is a dude?

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Why why was your husband going to start cleaning something?
If you did it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:48):
Again already looking out the window and goes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Oh, that is powerful. Though, that's powerful. Now, how did
you get that call? Did you hear that before? Was
it something that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
In other words, because we've heard on recording that when
you see us, do the ha because we have that
on recording and it sounds what we do. So we
try to talk back to them at a respect you
know what I mean? I think Wojo was asking that earlier.
If they see that as respectful or marketing.

Speaker 5 (01:21:23):
Yet, no, they don't see it as a market It's
a show of respect. I've been doing mine since I
was ten.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Mm. Really you've been doing that call to that same call,
same call?

Speaker 5 (01:21:40):
Has in changed?

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Rich you can do that. I know you can't. That
is on your whoops.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
You know, yeah, you can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
I could do what she did.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
I would have to hear it again though, and we
don't want her husband acumen. So no disrespect for no
disrespect sir? Maybe no, no, So all right now you've
got to cut the audio and record it and play
it to sassy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
That's not a bad idea. Do we have permission to
use your voice if we record it and play in
the woods? Sure? Oh good, I want thank you? Then
they're gonna say, you're not a woman, so what are
you doing? And I'll be like, have you see these humans?

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
I'm anything I want to be, so I'll play whatever
I damn well please, No, it'll be fine if I
think if it's from us and they know, they know
we're respectful and we're not bringing people even people in
that aren't or bringing them back if they are, they.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Oh, I bet you they'll know your call.

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
Because I've never been there and I've never been in
Michigan before, and they all came running.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Really, so you watch.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
If you watch My Life, My Last Life and the
Great Big Outdoors bigg A Ka Songa, you can hear
he does a good loud whoop and I can do
one too. But I don't do that because I don't.

(01:23:16):
I'd rather do be respectful my way because I've been
learned since i was young.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Right, Yeah, no question on the on the calls, like
you know, there are different calls, the whoops and then
the the Ohio howl, which I tend to do. What's
the difference. I mean, I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:23:43):
One is more the man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Like powering.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
Those are the aggressive, which is that's Ohio. There's Ohio.
And then West Virginia and it goes down to you guys,
and then it comes back.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
But you.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
There are like four clans in your your area, your
whole area spread to your state.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
M h.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
All right, so that well that was the other thing
about asking you too. So when you've got the how
many clans did you say that you associate with four?

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
It is four? Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
And and now that you don't, now that you haven't
seen them physically, you you can kind of is it mine?

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Would you call it? Mind speak? Like? How would you now?

Speaker 5 (01:24:34):
I see her? She show like when I was in Michigan,
she came, she came in the room and they were
kind of like scared because you can hear the way
they stomped, the way they walk. It's like a heavy stomp.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Oh we had that thumbs. Yeah, when.

Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
Things are too heavy and overwhelmed with me, she'll come
like maybe ten feet and she'll speak to me. I'm
when I speak her, I do sign language and she'll
speaks back. A lot of the Satangas Sekubu, they all

(01:25:19):
do Si language.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Well that's I know a little bit too.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
Well, that's interesting because we have I don't know if
you know Ernie Davio Ernie Davio an experience in Granville, Massachusetts.
He's a guest speaker at the Cobble Mountain Credit Festival.
He's a very good friend of Oz.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
I love him.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
We speak to him personally, you know, he calls us
and stuff. And he had an experience where he was
hunting deer and apparently he ran into a couple of
them that were hunting deer as well, in the same
deer and he looked to his left and there was
a big guy standing right there at the tree. And
the big guy like he thought, he thought he would

(01:26:00):
have to defend himself, and the big guy did one
one thing that stood out mainly was that he kept
slapping his own hand at him, and he felt it
was if this sasquatch was telling him that he was
human like him, like he had skin like him, you know,
this skin like you. And then he used other sign languages,
different hands. He calls him hand signals, I think, so

(01:26:25):
that they were speaking with their hands. And he actually
a lot of that he keeps. He's he's drawn. He
went to he hired like an artist to draw the
signals that he was given by this sasquatch. So he's
an amazing, amazing guy. So uh Carble Mountain Crete Festival.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
He'll be there. What's this? This is?

Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
People?

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Oh? People? Also? Is it isn't a sign language?

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
We know?

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
It's Sam thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Yeah yeah, same yeah so mountains?

Speaker 5 (01:27:01):
Oh yeah crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Is that what they say?

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
Everything the communications I do with them and a lot
of my relatives, different tribals, they all do that too.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Oh well, you speak pretty fluent then well Joe, you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Well Jo Bojo called themselves crazy. I said you look beautiful?
Uh too? Comments up?

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
All right? Oh two comments up? Well I get you know,
pretty excited? Is there?

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Oh wait all right, let me take a couple of
questions real quick, and then I want to I want
to show up some people the pictures that you have.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Is there a way you can learn to see them?
Like through meditation, sam ass?

Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
If your heart is pure, they will show themselves to you.
And again, like I said, it takes a lot of
patient and a lot of trust me us, then they'll
show you bysically maybe fifteen yards ten yards or like

(01:28:10):
my klane we hear in Nevada in California, when we park,
we go up and we sit and might bring gifts
for them. My husband's not much of a fan. He's
scared way back. But I will eat what I give them.

(01:28:32):
I take a bite of everyone, show it to eat.
But sometimes what I do is do a two liter
of seven up or sprite, freeze it, cut it open,
put it in a zipap bag with other fruits and
a little bit of water, and then I put back

(01:28:52):
in the freezer, put it in my bag that keeps
it cold. And when I'm up there, I carry that
backpack with lots of in it to keep it frozen.
I'll break it out right there and.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
You pack of lunch basically for them and share it
with them. That's very interesting. Damie wants to if you
could show us how to greet sassy and say we
mean no harm and not like vot.

Speaker 5 (01:29:20):
To greet them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Yeah, like say sign language, oh and no harm. Now
what you just say? Can you say it as you
do it so.

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
We can ah, I bring love?

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Oh yeah, oh I like to see.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
I like that better than we come no harm just
so you know that wojo no offense WLD I'm sorry,
different ways without the singers. Yeah, so we got to learn, well,
this is a good way to do it because obviously
we've heard of that. And again this is we go
back to the gatekeeping stuff. Ernie Davio, she has his story,
she's sharing her knowledge. They coincide with with one another.

(01:30:01):
They have you understand that gives it more.

Speaker 5 (01:30:04):
It's every clan on this on Mother Earth is very different.
Every researcher that wants to understand them. I want to
have some kind of communication, and it's how you present
it to them. I need to carry a gun when

(01:30:27):
I go out there. I carry a machete knife, but
never a gun. Or sometimes I don't carry nothing, because
I I to him, I come here with no horr.
I come to visit, but I go when I do
want to take a picture. I like to have a picture.
If you allow me, I appreciate it. If you don't,

(01:30:49):
it's okay. But every time I happen to take it,
allowed me and I caught it, and then I would
diffuse it in white or in different colors to sea,
so that way have something to show. So no one says, oh,
you're right. But I don't need to prove anything to anybody,
not even my tribal, like I said, or any other tribal.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Right, yeah, and that's you know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
And it's funny because I even just did a post
this morning about me and with me on it saying,
I forget exactly what I said, Oh, Bigfoot is real,
And basically I don't care if you believe it or not.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Whether you believe or not, I don't care, and I'm
not trying to be mean about it. I'm just trying
to cement that fact.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
That that's how I feel because these are my experiences
that I've been gifted and I'm truly grateful for them.
And even my podcast had come out through tragedy and
passion after losing my baby Jack, and if it wasn't
for him kind of pushing me out that door to say,
hey Dad, you don't go this is how you're gonna heal.

(01:31:57):
This is gonna be therapeutic for you. Go go into
the woods and find what you've been dealing with for
all these years. Now, go get your answers and then
share them with everybody. And that's what I've done, and
I got to be honest with you. It's it's life
changing for me and for the positive and sometimes I
think that's why they came, you know what I mean.

(01:32:17):
I think that's what it was supposed to be written
as you know what I mean. And I'm just living
my path, you know what I mean. So I'm truly blessed.
And like Tim, Tim Gayott says that he had seen
twenty what do you say, twenty big foots in like
six dog men, So yeah, yeah, he's had a lot
of experience with them as well. And I think in
some cases, you know, well, if not all you are

(01:32:39):
chosen and you are allowed, and it's not because we're
out looking, or it's not because we you know, I've
done all the.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Game camera things. I've had all these crazy things on
game cameras. I know how they work.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
Obviously, there's something with intellect on the other side that
doesn't want you to see it and has the ability
of making sure you don't that I do know if
I'm talking as a researcher on Mother Earth with my
feet grounded and being over here talking as somebody who
believes as them being a higher power and a higher
strength or you know, a higher frequency or whatever it

(01:33:13):
might be, I can honestly say that from both sides
of that fence that I just said to you. I
can honestly say that because I've had both experiences, so
it's pretty wild stuff. Now do you have any And
I don't want to put you in a spot the
way it might have to. Now, let's just ask you

(01:33:35):
within the Blackfoot community, Blackfoot tribe, and through the Elders
council all that stuff, has anybody had any that again
that you can share?

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
Obviously, I'm not trying to dig for things that you shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Nobody beats around a corner. Who says that nobody beats
around a corner being polite? So is there anything violent
that you guys have ever learned about it certain Stania,
Bigfoot sasquatch, that has ever happened within the Bigfoot, Blackfoot tribe.

Speaker 5 (01:34:07):
Folkalore in the community.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Yes, yeah, can you share? No? No, that's see, that's
what I was getting at. See I got the answer.
They call them like rogue rogue sasquatch? Is that what
they the bad ones? There's anything bad big you know Bigfoot.

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
Sleep aggressive ones. You have to be careful with the
aggressive ones. Now, most activity is from eleven to six am.
You will get activity from six pm to ten. But
this is where they had their teaching the older juvenals

(01:34:55):
with with the dog Man and an adult. But from
the other times when you are mixing with say aggressive
came from Oregon to come to your neck of the woods,

(01:35:17):
then there's gonna be a battle because it's claiming territorial.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:35:26):
And if Americans or human beings are in the middle,
you will know then there, especially if it's near a
campsite a lake, because then you will hear it like
the loudness of them, because they're all different.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Mhm.

Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
They will pick up a big old tree and throw
it at them.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Right, Jordan Richard, there's I'm sorry, two things I want
to cover before the end of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
One are you familiar. I think we've talked about this
little before. I've been what I believe is zap twice, Yes,
four times. Well I was gonna say, okay, I was
going to say I know of twice in another time.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
Okay. So anyway, she answered my question for me again.
So two of them pretty severely. And the reason why
I knew that it was that type of thing because
the symptoms were exactly the same. Yes, I know, is
that bear root?

Speaker 5 (01:36:35):
Bear root?

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
I see, I'm learning though it's in my back.

Speaker 5 (01:36:39):
You get it up in the mountains. You've got. It's
hard to find. Okay, people sell it, and I'm hurtful
that they do that because it's sacred understood. This can
help you from your help with your lungs, your digestion
system helps you if you have a cough, a headache,

(01:37:05):
if you're zapped, because when you get zach, you're confused,
like I know where I'm at, but I don't recognize
it or what am I doing? Uh? Why am I alive?

Speaker 10 (01:37:22):
Take a bite yep, yep, just a little bite, just
a little bit, yeah, and do you swallow it?

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Chew it up and swallow all right.

Speaker 5 (01:37:38):
It kind of dissolves, It kind of dissolves in your mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 5 (01:37:42):
I also then you can take a bite of the
apple that if you're greeting them, take a drink of
water or a hard candy, right, yeah, so you don't
continue having that taste in your mouth. What it does
it it sends it to your brain cells. Okay, all right,
I'm away. What just happened? Did I get confused? Did
I get zap? And this is why I tell people

(01:38:06):
I had my protection medicine bag which I had to
ask permission, and a lot of them different tribals say
no because they're not native. Well they could be a
little bit native, but I just believe that you need
to have something to protect you as you were in
the forest or the woods. Yes, and what I put

(01:38:28):
in my bag is very sacred and I do it
for everything, right, So I pray over the bags. This
is why I said give me a week because I'm praying,
and if another elder comes in, I asked him or
her to help me pray over.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
It, right right, Yeah, No, we have our protection bags
and we're super super happy to have them, and we
put up your link on a few different places. So
if you guys are interested in a protection bag, if
you're out in the woods doing some soasquatch research or
whatever might be doing, uh, paranormal stuff, whatever it might be,

(01:39:03):
you can definitely reach out to Elder Medicine bah Claw
and she can explain to you exactly how all that works,
address and numbers and all that stuff. So make sure
you reach out to her if you want to protection bags.
Blessed by herself as an elder and like as she
just shared with you other elders as well. So also

(01:39:24):
the smudge kit that she sent is absolutely amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
Yeah, let me see see this. Let me see this
smudgie kit I got, Oh, I got pictures. I want
to share everybody, So.

Speaker 6 (01:39:38):
A real quick I noticed that there was a question
Doug's a badger if they are telepathic?

Speaker 5 (01:39:47):
Yes, yes they are. Like I said in the beginning
when we started, they can read you before you enter.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Mm hm oh yeah, oh yeah, we've been noticing that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
Yeah, we've again, we've experienced that. And I'm not afraid
to say anything because, like I said, I I've been
a sensitive my whole life, so I don't mind just
talking about it. I don't get so afraid, especially when
it's with somebody I'm comfortable with, like Woodrome'm like, whoa bro, you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
Know what I mean? Like that, I definitely could feel
that vibe, you know what I mean. So here's my
smudge kit right here. Everybody check it out. Cool shale, right?
I love the color that show? Is your color? That
are they?

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
All?

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
That color?

Speaker 5 (01:40:39):
Are green? Summer green? Blue?

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
Oh yeah, I love that one green.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
Brown, green, brown, and purple.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Yeah. No, that one's beautiful. I like that One's perfect
for me. What type of sage are we using?

Speaker 5 (01:40:54):
That is wild white sage?

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
Wild white sage. I have a protection bag from Elder.
Oh it's cool CP awesome. Yeah, we have OZ as well.
And I've only made the mistake of the mistake of
not wearing it twice and got yelled at on the lives,
which is really good for me. Usually usual, usually make

(01:41:17):
five mistakes before I put what I'm supposed to do.
So let's see easy place to contact. Oh, there you go,
Spocky's paranormal Thank you very much. Elder Medicine vehicle right
there on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
Also, she also makes beautiful jewelry. Awesome jewelry. Yeah, awesome jewelry.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
Yep, yep, we had some here. It's pretty amazing. When
you have to win, it's come to life and it's
not your own. Makes me chuckle. Right right, something shakes
you awake. I call that shakes you awake. It's amazing.
Well we gotta get let me see, yeah, let me
put this in.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
Well you're doing that, rich Denny o'donald has a question. Uh,
thank you. Actually, just I'm going to throw it at down.
Go ahead. What about Poplo Santos wood to smudge? Can
you ask her?

Speaker 5 (01:42:13):
Yeah? Why did she say I'm sorry?

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
Uh? Pablo Santos wood to smudge. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 5 (01:42:20):
That is for that entity's evil negativity. You can win.
If you're gonna smudge your home with it, you can
make sure you do it clockwise and say a prayer
to the Creator and Mother Earth and give them the
power from them to you to pray over your home, car, animal,

(01:42:43):
or yourself or or someone close to you. I when
I smudge, I smashed my doors, my mirrors, because mirrors
are all sup portals.

Speaker 10 (01:42:51):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:42:51):
Yes, marriage, You've got to be very careful with I've had.
I had one years ago. It was so every time
I went in that room, that marriage just screamed at me.
I swear to it. You just knew it was bad.
Mirrors are very important. So if you're not familiar with
the paranormal world and things like that and smudgeon.

Speaker 5 (01:43:11):
And things, spirits come through those.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
Yes, yeah, I agree one hundred percent.

Speaker 8 (01:43:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
Damien has a question.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
He says, we have stories of Sassy kidnapping people that
would cause what would cause Sassy to do this? If
they are taught we are danger, dangerous and not to
have contact with us, or is that I wouldn't think.

Speaker 5 (01:43:31):
Many people put out and say that they're missing. Now me,
myself and some of the elders in different tribal believe
that they're not missing from them. They would lead into
something else. But people like American people will say because
they always like to talk bad about the natives, and

(01:43:54):
they also like to talk bad about Satango's bigfoot, they say, oh,
they might take your chicken or the eggs. But I
don't believe they were harmed. I've never heard any from
the elders when I was learning telling me they have

(01:44:17):
told me that many men and women have been lost
and there wood and they would mind them were to
be knocked out, so they carry it closer to an
entrance or familiar area. But many people people, and I

(01:44:40):
do that on my life. People say many things thinking
that it's true or false, just to say they want
to harm you. Again aggressive ones. What they'll do is
throw a rock at you or give you a deep

(01:45:03):
horse grunt for you to claim it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
Well, did you say a horse grunt? Is that what
you said? No, I thought you said horse grunt like
a horse grunt. No, say again if you hear them grunt.
I thought you said horse grun.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
I thought you said I thought we were in trouble
because we got grunted at like a horse one time
in the woods.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
That might have been something different. No, I'm serious, I'm like,
wait what, sorry, Elder Levon, what do you? What? Is
Levon mad about? What happened? Speak to us. We're here
for you. Hugger everybody, hug lots of hugs.

Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
Hey, guys, don't don't be a picking on my community.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Who's who's picking on? That's what That's what I think
that when Elda was telling the story, Oh, I don't know,
miss I must have missed something. I don't think. I
don't think Levon. Yeah, I grow on my I grow
my sage my son. No, I don't say anything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Those are also my accounts reported that people are hurt
and saved or helped by Bigfoot uh good and bad
in every community. Pulps like the rogue, sasquatch like Wodrow
brought up uh waiting three months for the seeds to say.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
So that's him growing his own. Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
When I hear the deep grunt, I just say, yeah,
I heard you, and nothing happens. Ah okay, gotcha. No,
I thought you were upset about something. I like, so,
what's up Graham. Uh, yeah, No, I didn't see anybody
picking on anybody, was it?

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
I didn't. I must have missed something. Did Did you
see something else that I should know about?

Speaker 5 (01:46:57):
I felt, Oh, that's saying I can. I can feel
even as fast as it's going, I can you feel.
But you remember, there's a lot of misunderstanding people.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
There is, there is, But I don't I don't think
we have anybody here that would ever ever do anything
but respect your community, yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
And anything that you have to say.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
So I think with what you were saying, I think
brought it up where you know where people whether they
believe it in it in that way or not. So
what I say is this, and I said it before.
I think it was last night on the live that
we're getting your perspective from this. You know, and you
know how Wojo and I feel about you, and you

(01:47:50):
know your experience and respect that we have for you.

Speaker 5 (01:47:53):
So there are many sang there's and there are many
Just do communicate and trade.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
Interesting, if if.

Speaker 5 (01:48:09):
You have been with your klan for many, many years,
they would trade things with you. They would bring you
wild stage from somewhere. They'll make vines into dolls or
like a necklace. Yep, yep, they might leave you rocks

(01:48:33):
that are shaped into a heart.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
Oh yeah, well we got a little story about that, now,
don't we, mister Wojo. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
One, we have one on a gifted chair. I think
you might have saw the last Live It was turned.
It was turned perfectly like at three o'clock, say on
the clock. It was like shaped like a hot and
then it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Was like it's just a half turn, that's all. It was,
yea half a turn because we had the old picture.

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
And then we were looking at the gifted chair the
way it is and I go, Richie, look, yep, I
just the Rock movie.

Speaker 1 (01:49:04):
It just it just turned, just a little shift. But
we also have an emblem, you know, you know it's
got the I Love you sign and it's and he's
got of his arm like twelve o'clock. But he or
she grabbed the emblem and turned it without moving it
like this, just turned it so it was three o'clock.

(01:49:27):
And then I find that very interesting. Yeah, very interesting.
Good night, Bree, Thank you for coming by. Thank you.
Oh I'm sorry. One one last question before uh let
you back on, is uh do they have like a
like an artistic trait.

Speaker 6 (01:49:46):
You know, it just seemed very like, you know, like
stackings of things, and you mean autistic.

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
What did I say autistic? It's autistic. I'm sorry. Yeah,
it's a big difference. They either. I'm sorry. I am
so like glued to her. That's why I'm just like,
I'm just like I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:50:06):
In my.

Speaker 6 (01:50:09):
And it's respect and it's learning. I feel like I'm
being you know, she's the teacher, you know, and understanding.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:50:16):
I've mentioned this many times, even in my own video.
They do many different directions, stacking rocks, sticks, sticks, making
like a cross, and an X on the ground. Now

(01:50:40):
X on the grounds. Those means you're welcome, m hm,
so many other big exes. You have to be careful
because those can become portals. Don't go underneath them if
you touch them. Just make sure you're not feeling any
other energy because that's how they will attach to you

(01:51:04):
or your equipment.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
Interesting because Max just brought up something about an X
last investigation.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
He said, Dad, there's another X on the ground over there. Yes,
yes he did, Yeah, he said that to me. We
need to work again.

Speaker 5 (01:51:21):
When you go back again, they're across the little creek,
they'll be it'll be different. Now there's something new.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
Oh I'm sorry, do hoop. That's a great point. So
in what we call the parley in a river, then
there's an X. Yeah, so you know that X. Why
was that X taken down?

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Why would they do that?

Speaker 5 (01:51:48):
Because they won? The klan is moving through a different area,
it has a higher power. Then they move it and
put a different X.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
Is that rich.

Speaker 5 (01:52:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
That would Yeah, this is what this is like, yeah
house rich Oh yeah, no, I know. This is what
happens though.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
When you learn things like this and you put it
together with your own stories, you start picking it apot
and going I'm thinking of you now, man.

Speaker 1 (01:52:19):
I'm like, so that would make sense because this happened.

Speaker 5 (01:52:23):
Richie had two axes in his backyard.

Speaker 4 (01:52:26):
I did, I did.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
They took one down, and I don't know where the
other one is. Actually I think that one's down as
well now that I think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
So one last thing too, rich the dream Richie had
a dream catcher back Yeah, wagon whale dream catcher. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:52:43):
They like dream catchers. I trade with them. Yeah, men,
well I brought one out here.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
Yeah yeah, it's like a half half of the dream catchers.
What I have on the beautiful arts touch.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
I'll not get into why I'm asking, but I really
appreciate your translation.

Speaker 5 (01:53:07):
Yeah, and that's took Chrise and the green feathers. What
I do is is like we light them up, diem
bring them back everything. When I make the drinkcatchers, the
chokers headband that Sparky has, and I even gave him

(01:53:30):
an extra.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
One, you are amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
I uh, I pray as I'm making them.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Yes, yep, amazing stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:53:42):
The feather fans the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
I love it. And then.

Speaker 5 (01:53:49):
This is sal you like crystal, which helps take away
the negativity, the evil, the bad spirit. It's and you
can use it as smudging.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Mmm. Oh yeah, they're good for smudging too. You're right.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
Sam has an X on the ground by her gift
and stump, and further out there's a big X. It's
like they don't want me to go past that big X,
but I can welcome around the gift and stump.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
That's what she's interpreted as.

Speaker 5 (01:54:20):
Yes, she's hers. She should have one more X and
it's not as large as the one that she's talking about.
There will be another one more to the left equdd

(01:54:42):
and that not always a portal, but to stay out
of that clans area.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Oh see this is yeah, see that this starts mapping
out everything in the head. I'm mapping it all out now,
a map and out. So we have more plans than
we thought.

Speaker 5 (01:55:03):
People want to challenge me on things, and I tell
them don't challenge me because then you're going to look
like a fool.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
I love it. But one question we hear like humming,
What is the what is the humming? Is it is they?
Is it harmony? Is it a portal?

Speaker 4 (01:55:26):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
What is We hear this like.

Speaker 5 (01:55:32):
You hear that?

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
What is it?

Speaker 5 (01:55:39):
They're they're communicating with.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
You, Richie.

Speaker 5 (01:55:47):
Sometimes you don't pay attention and they're doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
Yes, that's like Richie. The other one it's a little
bit different. It sounds like electricity, but again that's a formula.

Speaker 6 (01:55:58):
Like like Richie did say to me, he goes, wo Joe,
he goes, it sounds like electricity. There's a different hum okay,
and Richie goes, I think this is this is their
way of communication has to be.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
I go, that's possible, and that makes so much sense.
Thank you for it for that, Matt. That vision ants
are right there. My brother, he's watching. That's awesome. Do
you know the phrase or word or name arts touch?
Oh T S T O C H take good money

(01:56:32):
in the trunk? Yeah? Is that a Is there a name?
Is that?

Speaker 3 (01:56:38):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Do you know what that means? A friend of mine's.

Speaker 5 (01:56:40):
Asking many people. Many of the satanas have names like
Jonathan John right, mhm, Matt. Women's are also different, but
that would be like a medicine man or a medicine woman.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Oh, interesting, Graham, there you go. Yeah, and Spocky pulled
up some information for you as well. Michelle says, Memorrow
Day weekend, I'm going to eastern Oregon with my son
and granddaughter. We are going to look for bigfoot near
the reservoir. There have been several sightings. They're awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:57:16):
It has Yeah, this is like a very teachable moment here,
Like I'm really blessed that you're here because especially about
the exes that we're understanding, because do you who the
Texas Twister?

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Sorry do you.

Speaker 6 (01:57:34):
Trying to like map out like why we would have
all these exes? But this makes a lot of sense,
And thank you for answering these questions.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Oh they're huge. Yeah, what's the biggest clan count you've
come across so far. Oh, great question.

Speaker 5 (01:57:51):
Yeah, twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:57:54):
Twenty five interesting, Yes, yeah, I I think I've been
down with four. I know that, and then now there's
two others, so I'm thinking six.

Speaker 5 (01:58:05):
No, you have ten.

Speaker 4 (01:58:08):
More than that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
I know, but I'm not putting the two locations together.
I was talking. It's still the same vicinity that I know.
They're all in the same spot. Dude, got my mind
going everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:58:21):
Now, I got to know.

Speaker 6 (01:58:23):
In the morning, bro, everything everywhere, it's coming back, and
it's I'll be up to three in the morning matching
all the everything that she said up with all my exit.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
No, not my ax. I shouldn't say that's ex structure structures.

Speaker 5 (01:58:42):
Let me ask your question, what do you know about structures? Cheapy?

Speaker 3 (01:58:49):
What do I know about structures? M hm, I don't
know what well, I mean, what could I have a
proved that I know? But I know what I know
on the inside. I feel that the structures that I've
run into, obviously i've all had meaning. I think some
of them. I think they use for many different things.
I don't think there's just not necessarily a clan tag.

(01:59:10):
I think that's definitely one of them. I think it's
used for hunting, gaming, water direction. I think they you
find structures in areas like the college and things like
that because they're teaching their young how to do it
and it's just a it's a massive area. I think
some of them are traps for the for the game,
so where they can, yeah, choke points where they can

(01:59:32):
teach the young how to how to how to hunt.
There's I think there's many different things with structures.

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
I truly do.

Speaker 3 (01:59:38):
I don't think there's one thing was structures. I think
they all have different meanings. I mean, the dream Catcher
had nothing to do with hunting. The dream Catcher had
to me, had nothing to do with hunting, and everything
to do with hello, we're beautiful, you know what I mean,
Because that's just how what I felt. And with the
with the ex is, you know, you're welcome, but we
don't really want you over here. And I was like,

(02:00:00):
that's fine, but you know, I'm probably still gonna go
over there because you know me, you know what I mean.
And I had a good understanding about that, you know
what I mean. So and now I take it as
certain people aren't allowed over there, but I am just.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
So we know how am I doing?

Speaker 5 (02:00:17):
You're doing awesome?

Speaker 6 (02:00:20):
So I think we might so the letter A that
we see, that's the name of Dick when possible, because
we try to figure that out because we see the
letter A.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
Yeah, but you said the quiet pot out loud, Yeah,
the A the anarchy, Yeah, that's what we call it.
We're like, look at that because remember back in the
eighties they used to put it all back on the
denims patches. It looks I was like, dude, that thing
looks just like it. And we have this thirty foot
long like tree just balanced on this little small than

(02:00:55):
my pinky nib and I go over to the street
and go like this and it just rocks.

Speaker 1 (02:01:00):
I'm like, how do they do that? It's crazy? Well,
real quick. Nice, thank you for being around, Levon, and
take care. We'll hope to like we'll chat soon. Oh,
Levonn's leaving. She's going to go into the store. I'm
about to go into the store. I will catch you
all later, Love you all, and good night. We love
you too. Levon.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
Thank you so much for being here and having an
input because it's huge. We love that when everybody's you know,
we're an interactive podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
We want everybody to share. I don't get to every question.
I try to come to me and.

Speaker 5 (02:01:31):
Ask me questions and shares pictures. Many people do, but
I do not share. Don't speak of him. But unless
they ask me, you know, then I will tell you
what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:01:43):
Well, she's pretty awesome. So why did you ask me
about structures? You're just curious that where my head was out.
Oh that's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (02:01:53):
No, because there's new structures in your area.

Speaker 3 (02:01:57):
Oh, they are so busy over there right now. I
used to Yeah, these are also cool. Guys, reach out
to reach out to uh elder, please and get yourself
some beautiful beaded jewelry and all blessed.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
Everything's blessed. Yeah, just.

Speaker 5 (02:02:14):
Different earrings too.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
Yes, and I believe I have some coming in the mail.

Speaker 5 (02:02:18):
Right You have a necklace that I want you to give.
Gift them don't know it's from me.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
You can tell them, Oh that's a great idea. That's
so cool. And we're going to play your video your
your call. Yeah, so that's really cool. So we've got
a lot of wonderful things tonight. This has been absolutely awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:02:42):
You didn't put down tobacco.

Speaker 1 (02:02:46):
What I do. I just I did put some tobacco down.
Was it two investigations ago? Yeah, we gotta put some
down this time too.

Speaker 5 (02:02:56):
When we go back, what.

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
Yeah, you did, rich She's that's just scaring me right now.
I don't encourage her. I'm not encouraging because she already knew. Listen,
I have to say that. I have to say this
that one day I'm showing every I was showing everybody.

Speaker 6 (02:03:18):
Through Richie Swann on a live investigation of these structures
and explaining about structures, and then you know, I hear
him the I go, Richie, Okay, he just gave me
the wave, so I understood what he was doing, and
and you know, alde Bear Club comes on, and then
she asked, Richie.

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
Why were we hug at the tree? I'm like, how
did she know? Ye camera out here following us. Yes,
I was blown away. It was so funny that day.
I remember that was funny as hell.

Speaker 5 (02:03:50):
Dude. I want to who's this lady? Who's this lady?
And she even knows what I'm doing, and we're.

Speaker 3 (02:03:58):
I'm gonna stay on for a few one minutes because
we are a little bit over the time, but I
just want to bring up some of your pictures, if
you could.

Speaker 5 (02:04:04):
Explain this one is over in Wyoming, Wyoming by the
Res Black Pete Res. This is about fifty miles from it, all.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
Right, And this is now what particular? Is this a
sasquatch that you know of? Is this Paul? Is who
Paul Paul?

Speaker 3 (02:04:29):
And is he he kind of looks a little like
translution in a sense. I don't know if that's just
the old picture. But is he revealing himself to you
in a sense.

Speaker 1 (02:04:37):
Or is he just standing there full physical He's letting
me know that he is there. Yeah, that's interesting. I
love that. I love that.

Speaker 3 (02:04:48):
And there's a couple of other ones in here that
really stood out to me real quick, Hang on a minute, Damien.
They seem to have a hierarchy and chain of command. Yeah,
Graham's been having some crazy stuff at his house and
he's been sharing some information.

Speaker 1 (02:05:01):
I've been trust you.

Speaker 5 (02:05:03):
Like I said, they will show their full body and
communicate with you.

Speaker 1 (02:05:08):
Yes, Yeah, And we're getting to a lot of those
parts as we go forward. Again.

Speaker 3 (02:05:12):
My only hindrance at this point, like we all talked about,
is the phone, the camera, and maybe a little bit
of wojo.

Speaker 1 (02:05:19):
So I love you, bro, No, that's all.

Speaker 3 (02:05:27):
But that's all right. They know yo, either you do
or you don't. But Wojo's coming with me. That's just
the way it's gonna be.

Speaker 6 (02:05:33):
So's it's all about love and it's and you know
it and again like and I totally.

Speaker 1 (02:05:39):
Agree with Richie's. It's just it's a passion and love
between Wow. Yeah, yeah, what's going on here? Elder? Here?
This is Orba, that's yours.

Speaker 5 (02:05:55):
That's mine.

Speaker 1 (02:05:56):
Yep. It looks like he's got a little gray No, no, no,
she that's Oba.

Speaker 5 (02:06:03):
I's why she told me you're gonna mess up already.

Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
Sorry, well but I hope you love me. That's awesome.
I'm gonna watch you get all right.

Speaker 3 (02:06:15):
Listen, we're gonna bring tobacco, We're gonna have to do
all kinds of things.

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
He's he doesn't know any better. He's a sweet man. No,
So this is this is your that's all right. But
you see you see the front. I know what you
are pointing out though it's very animated through here.

Speaker 4 (02:06:36):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:06:37):
Is it more than one in this picture? Or is
she got her arms up.

Speaker 5 (02:06:40):
Or like there's too oh yeah, and there's the dog
that is I think on the bottom right.

Speaker 3 (02:06:50):
Oh, I see what you're saying. Oh yeah, down bottom right. Yes,
Oh he's peeking his face in.

Speaker 1 (02:06:59):
Yes, that is crystal clear though, see it, Wojo?

Speaker 5 (02:07:02):
Y the other's uh juvenile is on her left.

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
Yeah, I saw that. Yep. I can see the darkness
over there, and the right looks like there's something standing there.

Speaker 3 (02:07:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:07:14):
Yeah. But then you go down there you can see
the face.

Speaker 3 (02:07:17):
Dude, Oh my goodness, she's got a gray beard, Dodd says,
I think so, yeah, yeah she does.

Speaker 1 (02:07:23):
That's what.

Speaker 3 (02:07:24):
That's what Wojo was trying to point out about him
and I and I and I saved him. I saved
his life. You're lucky, because no, she does. Well, they listen,
they know, they know where where we're at on the inside.
They know that we're not We're not We're not in
this for any other reason.

Speaker 1 (02:07:44):
Than to meet them.

Speaker 3 (02:07:46):
Yes, I you know, I feel obligated to everybody on
the side and everybody here and even elder you know,
just because I've met all you guys through my YouTube
lives and stuff and and my podcast, but the YouTube lives,
we've got to know each other or a lot. And
now I feel obligated to bring that to them. And
I don't mean to be disrespectful to Sasquatch, but they

(02:08:08):
know that as well.

Speaker 1 (02:08:09):
So they know I'm kind of in between a rock
and a hard place, you know what I mean. So
I feel loyal. I'm a loyal guy. I was at
home home, you know, on the streets when I was fourteen.
Loyalty was everything you had. It was your blood.

Speaker 3 (02:08:21):
So I'm loyal to you guys, you know. And I'm
sure Blackfoot tribe understands that as well.

Speaker 1 (02:08:25):
You know you're loyal. You know, loyalty is there well.

Speaker 5 (02:08:28):
As a tribals, I will say, we all have differences
in believing and some say, well, you know, why do
you want to speak with the creatures out there?

Speaker 1 (02:08:44):
Right?

Speaker 5 (02:08:44):
What is it that you can't understand?

Speaker 3 (02:08:48):
Mm hmm, yeah, well a little different they look, physical
attributes are so different. Yeah, they are very different. They're
not They're not a cookie cutter animal type theory. Just
a blue jay as a blue jay as a blue jay.

Speaker 1 (02:09:01):
It's just not like that. I've tried to I've tried
to explain it to a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (02:09:05):
It's just not the case, right, And that's why we
can't be gay keepers and that's why we need to
share this information, because they are a lot like us
in a sense, and they actually understand us. You know,
we just need you know, I would like to understand
them more.

Speaker 1 (02:09:20):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (02:09:21):
In this picture, elder, What am I seeing? What am
I looking for here? Because I'm having trouble picking anything out?

Speaker 4 (02:09:27):
I see it.

Speaker 5 (02:09:30):
This is in Michigan, Battle, Michigan. This is where CP
took this picture. This is Orbou kneeling down. And this
is a color of her. She's redish han, reddish brown.
But when you incuse it in black and white, she
comes darker.

Speaker 3 (02:09:49):
Oh gotcha, got you? So you can pull it out.
So is she in the middle of this picture or
the left? Okay, all right, the middle? I'm seeing something
in there.

Speaker 1 (02:09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:09:57):
I think if I looked at it and studied it
long her and I apologize I didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:10:01):
I got eighty three kids. One day I'll be studied,
trust me for the longevity of you all. You're welcome, all.

Speaker 5 (02:10:14):
Right, And then they do welcome her there in his
hot spot. Again. I got a lot and lots of
entertainment from them.

Speaker 3 (02:10:26):
So no, I think it's amazing. And and when she
could come in like that so so what people are saying.
They are more so dimensional. They can move.

Speaker 5 (02:10:37):
That's her ten feet black and white again, difusion.

Speaker 3 (02:10:41):
Oh this picture here you mean yeah, I think it's
crazy how it is. I'm like looking at it going on.
I don't even that's why I was. I could see
your breast.

Speaker 5 (02:10:52):
I always say, oh, you got big guns like me,
and I hear that because that's how like, yeah, yeah,
when you go when you men go uh boom, and
I'm like my husband says, oh, don't don't go to
do it, don't do it. Yeah, I got another one

(02:11:21):
on this side too.

Speaker 1 (02:11:22):
Oh I got the double. I love it. Look like
at dogs. A badger is trying to say, did I
see a breast in one of the one of the
one of the pictures? Right, but the first word, the
first I'm sorry, can I see your breast? Okay, Broy,

(02:11:49):
I just showed your breast. You're good.

Speaker 3 (02:11:54):
I love Typo the best man. Thank you for being
a good sport. I don't let anybody ride for free tickets.
Always when you get on this train, one hundred percent,
watch yourself. Well, I think the pictures are amazing. I
think you're amazing. Obviously You're part of our family and
we just love you and love having you, and it's
been such an honor to sit and talk with you

(02:12:14):
and get a little more in depth.

Speaker 1 (02:12:17):
And I think it's something that's so.

Speaker 3 (02:12:21):
It can go so it can go on almost forever,
like a just forever like so in other words, we
should just sit down again sometime and do this again
and kind of continue where we've left off, because there's
so much more.

Speaker 1 (02:12:32):
I want to know. Not that kind of joke.

Speaker 3 (02:12:36):
Yeah, you ain't been a fan long then, mister badger.
I've been up on this chair spinning around in my boxes,
trust me. But no, thank you for that, Badge, And no,
I appreciate you being a good sport. I just think
that we could go on and on and on and
have great conversation about this and tie it all in
together with what I've been experiencing, uh long before Ojoe

(02:13:00):
even here, and you know, on my own, I get
to look back and reflect at all the things I
had questions about, and you've answered a bunch of those tonight. Yeah,
it's it's very big for me, and I feel I'm
on a journey with all my new friends and all
my new family. But also with my son, and now
my mom has this being is gonna be my first

(02:13:21):
Mother's Day without my mama, and I'm I gotta try.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
To get used to that, but I never will be.

Speaker 5 (02:13:27):
But I will say.

Speaker 1 (02:13:31):
Chigan, Yeah, oh, I will say that.

Speaker 5 (02:13:36):
She is saying they are fine. She speak loud.

Speaker 1 (02:13:47):
Yeah, she was.

Speaker 3 (02:13:47):
She could be well, mainly with me. Yeah, a lot
of Richard David, you know what I mean, because I
kind of.

Speaker 5 (02:13:54):
Go off the road, she says, would be fine. I'm
always with you. We are, she says, tomorrow it's just
another Jay.

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:14:05):
Who your mother is?

Speaker 1 (02:14:07):
Yeah, Oh yeah, that's her. She's my Italian mama. She
don't thank you for that? Yeah, thank you so much.
And it's gonna be don't worry.

Speaker 5 (02:14:21):
You need your mama, says, you need to calm down.

Speaker 1 (02:14:27):
Especially especially lately.

Speaker 3 (02:14:29):
Your mama is right. One hundred thousand million percent m yep. Absolutely,
so thank you for that. No, we appreciate that. And
tonight's been an absolute honor and a privilege and more
than hi thing. We're privileged in order to have you

(02:14:50):
on our YouTube lives. We're honored to have you as
part of the band family. And I just can't thank
you enough for being here, and please tell your husband.
We said thank you as well, because yes, I'm with
you as well.

Speaker 5 (02:15:03):
And the people, the kids. He told the kids, mama
has a has a broadcast to a chance, So we're
not going to the beach. Yeah, guys out on the
beach in Santa Cruz. But he said, okay, we'll wait tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:15:20):
Yeah, we'll wait till two hours now on Mother's Day.

Speaker 3 (02:15:24):
Yeah, he's got dishes to do, so don't worry about that,
all right, I know, no disrespect.

Speaker 1 (02:15:32):
But into the eldest, many blessings, you know, thank you
for believing us here.

Speaker 5 (02:15:43):
I'm already go to people texts. They came down.

Speaker 3 (02:15:46):
Okay, well, thank you to all the elders, into the
account members for letting us borrow this amazing human being
for a while. And we thank you enough. I hope
was respectful and for you guys. Sometimes he goes off
the rail a little bit. I'm the calm one.

Speaker 5 (02:16:05):
No one once at the comedian one is very loud.

Speaker 1 (02:16:14):
Once the comedian one's loud.

Speaker 4 (02:16:17):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (02:16:18):
I couldn't even keep a straight face. But thank you
so much for being here.

Speaker 3 (02:16:20):
We're gonna we're gonna get moving on and I want
to wish happy Mother's Day to everybody else here.

Speaker 5 (02:16:29):
Quiet too many and to the men to raise their
children without the mother.

Speaker 1 (02:16:36):
Yes exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:16:38):
I used to get Happy Mother's Day every year from
my friends, so Ben, they had done that. And now
you have an amazing woman who is an amazing mom
to all our kids and kids that on hers, but
you treat them like they are and she's amazing, and
I'm truly blessed. I hope you guys have that in
your life. I certainly do, and I'm truly really blessed.

(02:17:00):
So I want to wish everybody a very happy Mother's
Day tomorrow. To my mom up in heaven, thank you
and I love you. And to Wojo's mom, Mojo, say
something your mom all the way here before we go.

Speaker 1 (02:17:11):
No, mom, Yeah, You're always with us and my mother.
All I can say is that the memories and it's
always here. So like I said, for everybody, love to
kiss your mom, Listen to my mom. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:17:26):
Rich how angry you are with your mother or your
father and what differences they have with the other family.
She is your mother. You have to forgive, forget one mother.
You can always have many stepmother.

Speaker 1 (02:17:45):
You know exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:17:47):
When I was a young kid on the streets, I
had many feelings and they were all amazing. Happy Mother's
Day to Mama pat up there in heaven too. She
was a woman that taught me many many things. She
even taught me how to eat at a proper day
in her at a restaurant with the forks in order
and the knives and how to take them in because
I was going on a very expensive date and she
taught me all that stuff. So I'm truly, truly blessed

(02:18:09):
for the mothers that God has given me, and of
course my mom.

Speaker 1 (02:18:14):
With a lot of shit, But I love you.

Speaker 3 (02:18:18):
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Speaker 1 (02:18:40):
Is that what it is? Okay? Do you remember the
name of that? Yeah? I think yeah, I'm sorry, just
messing with you, dude.

Speaker 3 (02:18:55):
Make sure you tune in for the continuation of My
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down with them all and on her Mother's Day and
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for being here. Elder you can find her. We've posted
her links many times. You want, you will anywhere in
particular you want them to.

Speaker 5 (02:19:46):
Check you out, Email me or Facebook.

Speaker 3 (02:19:52):
Yep, Facebook all all Elder Medicine, bear Claw yeah yeah,
and YouTube. Make sure you hit the notified button on
her YouTube because she she kind of jumps in and
out and likes to have a good time on YouTube,
so make sure you tune in on her on her
channel as well. Wojo's gonna get us out of here
on this beautiful Mother's Day Eve, because that's what Wojo does.

Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
Yeah, no kid, Hey listen, I had it doing Richie.
I had to get Richie. But hey listen, eldm Mama,
just stick around for five minutes. I have some I
want to ask you anyways, Love you guys, Hey, and Olie,
is you and Richie get in on this. Remember we

(02:20:34):
are home.

Speaker 4 (02:20:35):
Of the boom.

Speaker 1 (02:20:37):
Let's go. Thank you, Happy mother Day.

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