S03E17 Mary Fabian: Author, TV Star, and Bigfoot Witness!

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Live somewhere beyond the beaten path, beyond the whispers in
the woods and the stories around the fire lurks one
of the greatest mysteries of our time, Bigfoot. For decades,
legends have echoed through the forests, footprints left behind, sightings

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the trees.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I love you, baby Jack. I want you guys to
keep climbing.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I love you Mama, or just gonna get us out of here,
because that's what he does.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yes, let's go.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Eh, good morning. Welcome to Banter with Richie Bee Live.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
These yep, there was something going on here behind us
after the trees were fucking moving everywhere. Yeah, bro, goosebumps,
mad at you with me? We looked this way. It
was not like this. Welcome to Banter with Richie Be. Yo.

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What's up everybody? Oh yeah, that's right back. Yeah, we
hit for a while. I'm live. Look at that.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Say hi Wojo, good evening, ha ha ha, what's up everybody.
Welcome to Banter with Richie b Live. We are continuing

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My Mama and May with another amazing lady researcher. I
am super pumped to have our guest here tonight. Miss Mary,
maybe it's missus ask I guess Mary Fabian's here. What's happening? Everybody?
Welcome to the show. And it would not be Saturday
Night on Banter Richie be without.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Some technical bs. That's right.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Jim Radio voices early, whatever radio voice comes early, you
know there's something going on.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
A Wojo has come in.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
I had this big dream of grandeur, right, I was
gonna have Wojo host the whole show, and I was
gonna be the co host, right because he had reached
out to Mary and had liked her stuff and all
that stuff and asked her come on our show, and.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
It was kind of his thing. So I was like, yo, man,
how about I got an idea? Right? Well, well, technology
says otherwise, because he can hear I can hear him,
but he can't hear me, which is probably a good
thing if you think about it, if you think, let's
all right, he came in. I don't know if he
can hear us.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Let's try it. Hang on, can you hear me? He
cannot hear me. Your phone's terrible and you should wear
a hat. I can say all kinds of things. Oh,
can you do it like that and just hear a sound?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh? I can hear you all right? Hang on a minut,
let me see something? All right? Hang on, it's high. Nope,
audio only is on for wojo. Are you there? Nope?
I can't even do that.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, he so a he's having an issue anyways where
we can hear him, but he can hear us. I
thought it fixed his audio and can issue it in
just a minute.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Ago. Is it still messed up? Yeah, he cannot. He
cannot hear me, but we can hear him. I don't
even know if he's still here. Actually you might have
just left. But hey, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Technology does what technology does. Anyways, let's do a little
rundown everybody. We're gonna do a little advertising. We're gonna
get miss Mary in here, and Mojo will work things out. Matt,
if you could reach out to him and help him out,
that'd be great. Let's do our thing right, the Banter family.
And again, I showed you guys the other night what
I found on Mary's page, and it said exactly the

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way we believe in doing research. And that's what made
me so happy and excited. Not that I wasn't already.
I'm always happy and excited, but when I read that,
and I'm like, oh my god, that's exactly how we think.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
You don't have to think like me to be my friend.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
I'm open at everybody, but it sure is refreshing when
you're in this field and you're doing this research to
have somebody believe in being happy, believe in having fun,
believe in sharing. So we're gonna get We're gonna hear
all about all her adventures.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I got, I got some photos she sent in. Uh.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
We're gonna go over her book. Uh, she's an author
and we're gonna check all that stuff out. But if
you are out there right now, I'm gonna bring up
the Carble Mountain Criti Festival July seventh, that's coming up quickly,
June seventh.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Excuse me, it's coming up quickly.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
And woed you and I a guest speaker is there
and I'm gonna be roaming around question and have a
conversation with everybody. It's gonna be an amazing event. It's
for a great, great cause to get the kids back outdoors.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
Man.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
All that any money raise goes into the children that
you know wilderness projects. Uh did different types of things.
Tim can tell you. I've read it over to you
a thousand times. Get them away from those screens and
get them out in the woods. So that's what that is.
We're super excited to be on the guest list, the
guest speaker list on June seventh, Carble Mountain Credi Festival

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and Russell, Massachusetts. Please join us if you cannot be
there physically. I've told hundred times click that notify button.
On my YouTube and you will be therelive. The next
event after that that we will be actual hosting mcs
of is the Charm and Fair Farm on June twenty
first and twenty second and Candy and New Hampshire. We

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will be running around causing all kinds of chaos as
you know how it goes, especially when we get out
into the wilderness together, right natural habitat as they say.
I was gonna bring Wojo.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
In and.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Have him say hi to the guests, but I got
I got a new co host tonight.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Would you guys like to meet her.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Mary buckle up. This is how it goes on this show,
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All right, so thank you so much. Let's just bring
it our guests and oh wait, Wojo's here. Hang on
one second, We're gonna do a test Test one two.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Sorry man, oh it's amazing. Listen, this is exactly the
way we do our show.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
It's funny because this stuff is almost not expected technically, but.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Part of me.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Ehree, right, So let me bring my new co host
in because Wojo was just fired, and Mary, you might
come in now. Way you're here, you don't have to
say me. I could just ramble all night, but I
would love to have you come in. So welcome everybody,
Mary Fabian, please.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Thank you, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 8 (09:09):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Was that amazing that that.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Was a nice introduction.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
You're gonna learn very fast on how we do things
around here. It's kind of like, you know, you're getting
that drill, you know what I mean. So, yeah, we're
very laid back. We have a lot of fun. I mean,
we're not We don't worry about being professional, but we're
not jerks, you know what I mean. So I mean,
look what we all go out in the wood running
around and looking for you know, it's not exactly a
professional thing.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Right, let's say hi to way you want. This is
my new co host. He comes on a podcast. It
look what's happening? Oh I'm not even and I'm not
even shy about it. Here we go.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
You ready, let's go up to the top. We gotta
hide a ghost girl. That's our friend Brandy. She's been
out big footing with us. Mary Neubert, I've known forever.
Love you Mary. We'll go down the list here, down
the list down. Oh, Big Andy's in the house. Hi,
Big Andy, Big Andy. Sam.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
That's one of our producers right here.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Okay, so we got Sam as our producer and Bobby
Lee is the co founder and executive producer of the show.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
And they're awesome. These people.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
You don't do you I'm gonna get already getting into interviewing.
I can't help myself. But it's like it's like it's
like our family. These people, like if they go on
our lives and YouTube, do you have a lot of
that that you find?

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Yeah, I have a lot of steady people who come
onto my podcast, And uh, it's wonderful because we know
each other. We've been researching together. You know a lot
of them live out in down in Alabama and so
on and so forth, but Tennessee, and but you know,

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we we love each other. We all support one each other.

Speaker 7 (11:05):
Isn't that amazing?

Speaker 5 (11:05):
And it's funny because I heard you hesitate when you
wouldn't call them followers. Right, that's what you hesitated at,
right you you kind of stop like I have people
that follow me, but you. But that's what that's what
other people say, but you, I do the same thing.
I don't say that.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
It's weird. I stop and I'm like, these are just
my people. These are my friends.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (11:25):
They are you know, we're all friends.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
I love it. This is uh Wojo's brother Matt. He's
the one hopefully going to rescue you uz tonight with Wojo.
You know, because Mary's just smiles of this take over
the show. These guys want to listen to me for.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
This is Oh Ben, what's up? Buddy?

Speaker 5 (11:41):
Ben is from the UK? Oh yeah, he's awesome, man,
he's awesome.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
He he's amazing, amazing talent with technology.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Jean Tewksbury. Do you ever hear of Jean Tewksbury ghost
from the Ghost Cat?

Speaker 6 (11:56):
No, I've heard of Tewksbury. Isn't that a town or something?

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Oh that's very good, Mary, Mary's done her Massachusetts homework.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yes, Tewkesberry is a town in Massachusetts. You are right.
And the funny thing is it's up by the main
border basically.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Oh, and Gina's out of Maine and she was researching
big cats when they said that they were kind of
extinct up in Maine and they're out there and she's like, oh, no,
I saw one and she she's listen, this is she's
been doing this a while now, and she's sticking to
her guns and uh. And she's become a sasquatch bigfoot
researcher as well.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
Awesome.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
Oh, she's amazing, So I love having her. She's been
on our show as well. She says hello to you, Hello. Oh,
and here is de whot de Hoot's another one, de
who's out of Texas. She's she goes on our YouTube
Live Adventures with Us a lot and tells me what
to do right and keeps me in line, right de
hoot d d who?

Speaker 6 (12:47):
And what part of Texas is? Uh?

Speaker 1 (12:50):
She got? She got? She gonna correct me, but I'll
let her tell you that way. I don't mess it up.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
What part of Texas you out? Again?

Speaker 5 (12:56):
I I have it too in my head and maybe Austin.
I'm gonna say Austin and get yelled at uh. Sam
says hello to you, Mary. Hello, Martin's yeah, my boy Martin.
I met Martin out of New Hampshire.

Speaker 9 (13:11):
He's had all kinds of things happening on his property
as well, and he was listening to my show and
now become friends. You've been out researching with us twice.
I'm gonna go to his place and hang out. He's
got my whole family.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
You know.

Speaker 9 (13:24):
Cool, I'm Martin. He has welcome Mary, and thank you
for the lady.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Oh. Goostrow called him Marsian. Hey, Mashian.

Speaker 9 (13:35):
OKAYI County Austin area.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
I I yeah, I don't think I've been through that area.
I've been to Texas a couple of times, but I
don't think I know as a matter of fact. No,
I've been to San Antonio and I've been along the
Red River uh huh Houston area. But that's about it.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
When we go out in our lives, it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
I have people from I think it want, France, India, Russia, Scotland, UK,
a lot from the UK, A lot of the UK guys.
Oh yeah, it's all over the world. It's crazy. Crazy.
I have someone to come in with these different languages,
I'm sorry, I don't understand you because you put that
in English, you know, and sometimes they do and sometimes
they don't. But yeah, it's been pretty nuts we've had.

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We were out there one time and we came out
of the woods. It was a Sunday afternoon. I was like, Wojo,
look at this. He's like what I said. We almost
had five thousand viewers like.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Watching us live in the woods, and it was a
great investigation. We have a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
But we have like six people here like they're moderators,
the little Wrench, and they'll stop because some people just
come in and they have nothing to do and they
just want to mess with it, you know how it is, right, Yes, yeah, pay.
So what I'm gonna do is let me see if
we is probably getting some help. So I apologize for
not having Wojo, and I apologize you're stuck with.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Me, that's fine. I'm just gonna I hope to speak
with Wojo also, Yes.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I hope you do.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Wojo is an amazing human being and I've known him
for twenty something years and he was watching my show.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
It was just me doing my show, and I.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Enjoyed that and he took a great interest in what
was happening, and my executive producer was supposed to come
on an investigation and her and her son got COVID
or whatever it was, and I think it was COVID.
So I called him up because he had so much
interest and I'd known him from softball for many years,
and I said, hey, do you want to come on?
I want to do a show called, you know, Bigfoot

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and with a fan and he's like, yeah, I'd love
to impromptu. The very next morning, we're out in north
central Massachusetts looking for Bigfoot and it was me just saying, hey,
you look, you tell me what you see. You've hunted
for many years. And he came back and he was
astonished with the things that we were seeing.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
He was blown away. And time went on.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
And I said, I think I need a co host,
you know what I mean. I don't know if I
needed one. I just felt like it was the right
thing and it just clicked and here we are. It's
been great, and he's a fan favorite. And I'm just
you know, I'm just the guy, you know me, you
know what I mean, just just the guy. So no,
he's amazing, and I hope we get that squared away.

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Because that would be that would be a bummer. So
I want to I want to pull up something. Let's
pull up your book. Okay, okay, because I got some questions.
Oh where is it, Richard? I got some question? Let
me see. I'm in my drive here. This is what
this is, restream. This is what you got to do.

Speaker 8 (16:33):
Right, Okay, I can hold it up.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Oh yeah, well yeah you can hold it up too. Right.

Speaker 8 (16:39):
Well it's backwards, I think, but oh it could be backwards.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
Yeah yeah, I see the view I see is backwards.
I don't know what the audience.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I got you, Mary, I got you Mary. Oh yeah
it is backwards. That is funny.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Huh. So so Mary, you're from Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yes, and you you you? And this is what I'm saying.
I'm gonna jump around a little bit. This is what
I do. I add lib, I don't. I don't. I
do some research. I don't go crazy.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
I just want to learn about you as a person,
like we're just hanging out by the fire.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
That's my goal.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
And I just that way it's more genuine and organic
and I just I just love it.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
So I'm in now.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
I'm fascinated with you in a sense where I'm looking
at your book right here. What I've learned about Bigfoot
fifty years in counting?

Speaker 8 (17:23):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (17:24):
What where did it stop? Though? So where do you go? Like?
Is it your backyard like my story? Is it a
TV show that triggers it? Like? What made you think
of Bigfoot?

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Well, my very first sighting was whenever I was eleven
years old. Oh, and it started there, And it wasn't
quite in my backyard. It was I lived on a
on a farm at that time, and I was hiking

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out along the gas line trail at the back of
the property and crossed the road and I was heading
out to a friend's house and I just saw a bigfoot.
He came out of the woods to my right, crossed

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over the trail that I was walking on, and he
stopped and looked at me, and then he just continued on. Wow,
that was really about it.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
So you're eleven years old, yes, And how far away
would you say he was from you? Which is a
basic question, but I'm curious.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Let's see, Well, Western Pennsylvania is basically like West Virginia,
where it's all hills and hollers. And I was standing
on a hill and in between us was the holler.
So maybe about maybe fifty fifty yards at.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
The mon you could see things.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
And so was it like a big guy, yes, like
a big man.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
Well, at that time I thought it was a man
wearing a black fur coat.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Makes sense, right, But it.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
Was the month of May and it was warm, so
it didn't make sense why he was wearing a fur coat.
But you know, to me, that's what it was, and
facially he is. You know, what confused me was that

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he looked similar to the Neanderthals that you would see,
you know, like on TV or something. You know, he
had you know, the low brow ridge and paler skin.
I think it had like a grayish tone to it.

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But you know, it was to an eleven year old mind,
it was a very large man wearing a black fur coat.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
So that's just amazing. And you caught and you and
you connected with the eyes.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Yeah, so you got he went like that to you,
so to speak, and you would just like and looked
right at him.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Yeah, I looked right at him. I didn't feel any
fear or anything. He didn't do anything to scare me.
He just stopped, looked at me and then just continued
on into the field on the other side.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
That's wild. Now have you ever before getting to your
other sightings, like if you saw that one I've asked
this before, would you would you have? I don't know,
would you ever like if you saw him again, would
you be able to say that.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
Was him from fifty years ago?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
No? But I mean, like the features. I'm just thinking
like features of them? Do you think? All right?

Speaker 5 (21:24):
So here's all right, let me get a little more
in depth in that. It's kind of a throw in question.
But yeah, so do you feel they all look different?

Speaker 8 (21:31):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I as well, So I feel that primitive human. Right,
how do you is that you kind of feel that?
I mean you like primitive humans?

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Yes, up to a point yesh.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, so mixture then you think.

Speaker 8 (21:47):
Mixture, definite mixture.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I have to agree with that because what I've done,
I haven't had that experience. So that's all right. I
have seen them.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Run by and go that way, I have, I have
and all these other experiences I have not had that
forty fifty foot high. My name is Rich, nice to
meet you. Please don't kill me. That's you know, That's
what I'm looking for. But you know what is funny
is I don't get that feeling as well. I'm not afraid.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
I don't have that, you know what I mean? That's
that's that's fear. I think I just saw Waldre Mind
if I try call bringing Waldo one again?

Speaker 6 (22:19):
Yeah, that's your show?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
What's your show? Mary? Stop it? Welcome to Banta with
Mary Fabian wojoe?

Speaker 7 (22:30):
What is going?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Why?

Speaker 7 (22:31):
Is my face frozen?

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (22:34):
What he disappeared?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I did that? He thinks he did? Is your face frozen?

Speaker 7 (22:42):
I'm frozen?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
No not. I can see you. Can you hear us?

Speaker 7 (22:47):
I can hear you guys, But my face you know
it's all right? Hello, Hello, Welcome to Bita with Richie B.
Welcome Mary Fabium.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yes, their hold of the poop.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
And by the way, you know what now now I'm
in crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
I'm be crazy. Mo, get out of the way. I'm
that Oh my god? What doing?

Speaker 7 (23:07):
There's a big here? Hey? Everybody say hello, you're on worldwide? No,
Lie said hello to everybody.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Big party. Where my backyard here?

Speaker 7 (23:23):
We'll talk about in the channel. All right, Yes, So
welcome to Benn with Richie.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
B Live and color and.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
All right back with the show. How you doing he's.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Having a party. Is that because Mary Fabian's here? You
threw a party?

Speaker 7 (23:37):
Oh it's women's mouth. Mary Fabian's on. Let's get this
show on the road.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Oh my god, Well everybody's here. See that.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
You see.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
You see what happens to here? Mary? You see my
vibe and his vibe. You see what's going on?

Speaker 7 (23:53):
Him full of vibe right now. You should have heard
me off the radio.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
We heard something there.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, Mary, Mary, you should tell him what we did
to him and he doesn't know.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Go ahead, what what we did here?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah? What did we do to him? We brought him up?

Speaker 6 (24:09):
And what did these Oh yeah, he both up and
then all you said was the F word.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
That's normal.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
We clicked the button. You go right there. You didn't
even know you were live worldwide exactly.

Speaker 7 (24:31):
Well, the world's I'm here, welcome on the show. How
you doing, dude?

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Great to see your face, good to hear your voice.
My god, oh man, you Matt said you heard him on?

Speaker 7 (24:47):
Uh yeah, I called mad I can tell I had
him on speaking and he's like, oh boy, all of
my town next door.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
That's where he lives over that, I bet, I bet. Well.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Anyways, we're way to go, So I I got Mary's
book up on the screen.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
I'm fascinated with Mary yourself.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
I don't know if you heard about our first encounter,
but it was amazing and eleven years old.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
And then you know, how many how many settings have
you had altogether?

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Mary?

Speaker 6 (25:15):
I have seen five individuals, but one of them I've
seen three times.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Well that's kind of like what I was asking, Like,
you know, you know it's the same one, right, So
like yeah, like when I see you, I'm like, oh,
I recognize that face, it's Mary Fabian.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Is it kind of like that? Yes, that's amazing. So
why do you feel that you get to see them
five times? Say? Right?

Speaker 5 (25:39):
You know, think about it, right, and a lot of
people don't seen their whole lives and they look forever. Right,
do you feel chosen or mocked or you know? How
ever you explain that, I know that There.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Are different theories as to that. Some say that you
know only if you have Native American blood in you
then you have a better chance of seeing them. Or
another theory is if you are tagged or zapped hit

(26:14):
within for a sound, that your DNA is changed and
they can oh they tag you.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
In other words, is that the second time we've heard that, Wojo. Yeah, yeah, Mark, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
So I've been zapped on a few occasions, yeah, to
where I was in bed for exactly the same amount
of time both times three to four days. The first time,
Wojo was freaking out, like calling people trying to get
help because I went to my doctor, go blood work.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
The whole I'm like, this is it. I'm done. This
is the end, my only friend, the end.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Like I thought it was over. I'm saying bye to
my family. Like none of it made sense. And it
was right after we had the experience where they ran.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
One of them ran white bios on the left and
I had called it before. I said, I hear something
to my left.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
We got up boom, and I look up and I
just could see the back kind of I got a
black shirt on today, so I could kind of do it.
I just saw her kind of do this and do that,
and it was like like almost pushing the trees behind
him in order to like hide himself better.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
As he ran. It was crazy.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
So I you know, if you pick up a Rubbel
Welcome Matt, and you see that, that's about what I saw.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I didn't see like strands up here and I'm not
I'm not a bullshit. I tell you what I saw.
That's what I saw. But I was like, you know,
and then boom.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Within twenty four hours, I was on my in my bed,
curled up in the fetal position, and three orful amazement
by and he calls me, Hey, I googled it, like,
talked about your symptoms.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
He's really into this, you know.

Speaker 9 (27:46):
And he talked to the Volgo brothers a few other people,
and Hey, what he was explaining was I was back,
and that it happened twice to me in Lo and
behold they were right around.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I think the second one was when they ran by
his so I got I was there three or four days,
same exact feeling, same exact amount. It was brutal.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Now have you been zapped numerous times? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:12):
That is that the symptoms.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
Maybe they different people are are in different ways, and
I know others who are affected that badly, such as you.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
But for me, excuse me.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Sometimes I will get a migraine. Sometimes I get an
upset stomach. Sometimes I feel dizzy and disoriented. Uh, just
different different things.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
Yeah, like heavy chested, like like you feel like you
squeezing your chest.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
You feel your ears.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Are ringing yep.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Yeah, intense pressure in my head sometimes just like your
head is being squeezed.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Wojo had that out out on the field for the
first time, I think like two investigations ago.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Wojo. Yeah, that was pretty crazy, right, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
And well, because I don't know, it's just planning. Everything's normal,
and I'm you know, Richie's on live and he's a
about maybe like twenty hours ahead of me, and then
all of a sudden I could the ring and then
it just got louder through my right ear, and then
both ears are going crazy.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
And then I was feeling like like this nauseous and
and my chest was squeezing.

Speaker 7 (29:30):
And I got Richie. You know, I was explaining to
him of what's going on because it just happened. It's
that fast. I just said, just stop meditating and you know,
talk to him and what have you and and believe
it or not, you know, I was just meditating, like, hey,
I'm your friend, you know, we come no harm, and

(29:51):
and it started like just going away, and I'm like,
you got hidden me, like it just like went away,
like I had the goosebumps.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, you you were crazy that day, Like I'm not
using him saying anything. And then all of a sudden
he's like rich, rich Rich, and I'm like what and
he's like he's telling me all the symptoms. I'm like,
he's doing it right in the woods, and I'm like,
this is weird because he's never had anything like that.
So I was kind of taken aback by that as well.
So I believe that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
And what I.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
Experienced was a thing, And everybody like yourself that I
speak to, was it's a thing.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Yeah. How is that possible? Do you feel that that
would put them.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
On a different frequency than us because we're all energy, right?

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Uh yeah? Although they can do it, there's other animals
who can do it, who can right right?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
A giraffe, for instance, A giraffe, I said, not always
blows my mind. A giraffe as infrasound.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
Yeah, turkeys, tigers, tigers use it to dissorient, pray yep.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I think I think it's crazy. I think it's the
whole idea of it's just.

Speaker 6 (31:02):
Not so science is what I tell people. It's not paranormal,
it's not what you call wu, it's actual science. A
scientist from NASA discovered the Bigfoot puts out infrasound. He
was working on infrasound experiments with the Space Shuttle at

(31:30):
that point in time, and he noticed that his co
workers were reacting in a way similar to what he's
experienced with his fellow Bigfoot researchers, and so he made
up his own primitive infrasound detector at that time, took

(31:53):
it out with them into an active area and pointed
it towards where the Bigfoot were, how you know, whenever
they were putting out infrasound. And yeah, he discovered.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I think, yeah, no, that I mean, think about that.
And that's one thing I try to explain to it
that we had a whole show about that in a
sense where I was talking about infra sound and all
the different animals that use the infrasound and like you said,
and I didn't put it close. I don't put things in.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
You know, eloquently or anything for me, but you know,
the way you said it was so crystal, Claire, that
that simple.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's science. That's the scientific part of this. Infrasound is
something that animals that we know of use And I'm
not saying he's a total animal I'm just saying he
has in for sound. That definitely is the case.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
We had our whole team in a circle as we
were leaving one day, talking and we weren't close to
being out, but we were out close enough and we
were all talking, and then all of a sudden, we
all stopped at once.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Is that you, wojo, that's one way.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
That is one way to get yourself kicked out of the.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
No, I don't know what that is to me. Yeah, listen,
it's the show. This is where it goes, Mary. But
we we literally felt a vibration come through the whole crowd.
There was six of us, I think it was about
I think it was six, and we're all standing and
everybody at the same time look almost to the center
of the circle at each other like did you just

(33:19):
feel that? We didn't just feel it.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
We heard a hum and it came through the whole
crowd and we all hit it at once, And I
thought that was awesome piece of evidence because it's all
personal experience. But there's everybody at the same time, and
you can again we're on our live and I'm going like,
that's why I love about YouTube live because it's unedited,
uncut no bs, right, So it's all right there.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
You can't sit there and manipulate.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
Anything because you're experiencing it with us and you can
watch our natural reaction as these things happen. What I
want to do is I want to get to your book,
because I want to get to your pictures. And then
we're going to end it with your book as well,
because I think it's important that everybody finds where they
knows where they can find your book? Where can we
find you? But it's called What I've Learned About Bigfoot
Fifty Yearsn't Counting by author Mary M. Fabian. And then

(34:05):
I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions about your
big your book.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
But where can they find it?

Speaker 6 (34:09):
You can find it on Amazon. Just type in Mary
Fabian and the word Bigfoot and it'll it'll pop right up.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I think that that's awesome. So when did you write
this book?

Speaker 6 (34:23):
But three years ago? Three years ago, three years ago?

Speaker 5 (34:27):
And and what in one sentence can you tell me
what you've learned about Bigfoot?

Speaker 6 (34:37):
My sentence basically is I'm still learning.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yeah, Well, you know, I think that's an amazing answer,
and that's an honest answer, and I love it. And
that's that's what it is, right, Yeah, I mean, and
you've and you've had five visual encounters and you're still learning.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
And that's the beauty of it. It doesn't go away, right.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
Because yeah, you're you're always learning, you're always adapting. And
the thing is you have to be adaptable with bigfoot,
you know, with learning about them, because you know, whenever
you first start out, and you may think, okay, you know,
they're flesh and blood creature and that's that, you know,

(35:17):
and because that's why I was, they were an animal
or a primitive harmined and that was that. But time
and experience goes by and you experience other things that
they do, and it's then it becomes okay, there's a

(35:39):
little bit more to this than just you know, flesh
and blood animal. Although they are flesh and blood, they
are more also.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
You know, it's funny, is it's amazing? What again with
what you said, Well, Joe, you've been in the experiences
with me. We have we have absolutely moved in those
directs that you just listed basically where you're adaptable to
the situation, adaptable to the evidence that you are presented.
You have to be you have like the self illuminating

(36:12):
eyes that you know, excuse me, some of the woo
and all that, you know, all those different things that
I was just like, no, I know what I heard
of my woods. It was walking around.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
It's got legs, you know, it did this just like
a living animal type thing, you know, uh, primate, you
know all that stuff. And I have cane so far,
you know, away from that moment that I just shared
with you that and I'm okay with it because it
is adapting with the evidence that we have found. And

(36:41):
wo Joe, speaking for yourself, you feel that same way
because we've had this discussion, right.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
Yeah, absolutely, it's it's it's all also the context of everything.
Every situation you know, between we hear the wukes going
back and forth, or tree knocks or actually like the humming,
the whistles, the movement, and you know, you get adapted

(37:10):
to all this. And I just feel like this brotherhood, sisterhood,
you know, relationship because we were constantly going back to
the same area. I mean, I have no reason to
go anywhere else because we know there's a lot of
areas that are being a tree structures so and so.

(37:32):
But I'll tell you it is it's it's it's just
so awesome too to build this relationship as of like
our gifting chair, what they're doing. But I know some
people don't like leaving out gifts, but we don't live
near by there, so but my point is is like
leaving out certain rocks and them going into the peanut

(37:57):
butter jar and and flipping the rock up. The rock
was on top of the jar the peanut butter on it,
including the stick that he uses. We went to our
last investigation, we found the gar on the ground, but
the rock, the flat side was flipped upside down. I

(38:17):
didn't eat the chair. And you also have the cover
that was cover up elder and and so it's it's
just it's like a relationship. Like they moved one of
the rocks and they took it to a spot where
they grabbed the peanut the zinger and they ate it
right by this brook.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
But they left the rock on top of a back
to say, hey, that was me, thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Yeah, We've got a lot of things out of the
gifted area, and and we've had recorders there, you know,
to record them. You can hear them, you can hear
their footsteps, you can hear the sounds. They make you
get to learn things, kind of like a Jane Goodall theory. Yes,
because I'm not I'm not into no bodies or not.
I don't care about that crap. I don't want to
hear nothing about that stuff. It's it's terrible. But Jane

(39:05):
Goodall did it with the mountain gorillas.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
You know, she didn't go in there with a gun
and shoot him and bring them back and investigate them
or research them.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Although she did not feed them, she did not They
learned very quickly not to put food out. When because
I one of the primatologists who works with Jane Goodall
and trained with her in Africa. It's a good friend
of mine, and he said that they learned very very

(39:33):
quickly to not put food out because that changes the
way that they react to you. They become something else.
You change their behavior, their their nature and how they
react to you, rather than just the way that they

(39:56):
are as a natural creature. And so you know, they don't.
In fact, they're highly discouraged not to put food out.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
Yeah, and we've heard and we've heard that before. And
everybody is free to say anything, you know what I mean.
And I even with the theory that you have. It's
completely acceptable and understandable and makes great makes great sense
when I, like I said, when I first did it,
I was a complete newbie. I mean it was a rookie,
rookie move that I probably shouldn't have done because I
didn't know what I was dealing with. Could have been

(40:29):
a black bear, ripped me out, and even where's my cookies?
Fool have no idea? And all that stuff is acceptable
and understandable, and I've been through all of that stuff. However,
with what we're dealing with, we don't We don't know
it's a mountain gorilla and it's going to react like
a mountain gorilla.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
We don't know that. I feel it's way more intelligent.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
I've had a lot of different things on recorders come
up to where there was intellect and even language. Not
having my fifty foot experience, I have had had a
seventy five to eighty foot vocalization conversation between two of
them cool one with Dave mccullor from UH he's an
investigator in our area.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
He was with me, and then there was an author.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
That was doing a chapter on me, so to speak,
and we sat there listening to them talk to each other,
and it was loud, it was abrupt, it was about us,
and at the end of the sentence they let out
this loud It was a chess pop. It wasn't a
It sounded like almost like a knock, but it was
definitely a chess pop because I knew where they were located,
and there was no there were more into those stick

(41:34):
bushes that I was telling you about. There wasn't nothing
grab a perfect stick and hit a perfect tree.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
It just wasn't gonna happen. So I knew it was
a like that.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
At the end of a sentence, the other one picked
up where that one left off, bigger, deeper voice, had
a language, Oh wy, tell go, and then when he
got done, he did that loud pop and that was it.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Conversation was over.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
It was amazing, and I didn't realize how big that
was at the time until I to people that have
seen them and said, I've never heard them talk. That's crazy, dude,
Yeah crazy, you saw them forty feet away. Any fear,
you know, we all want on the other guy's got.
So I guess my point is, in a sense, we
don't know what that behavior would change when it comes
to them scientifically at this point, percentage wise, you're probably

(42:21):
closer than we are. You're probably closer to what the
answer would be than these two schmucks in the woods
looking at me looking to make friends with the angertoals.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Well, you learn by doing, and you make mistakes and
you make strides, and you learn what to do and
what not to do. What I just go by how
I was trained by my mentor and and so that's

(42:54):
the way that I go. Plus, it was more instinctive
on my part that one was coming on my home
all the time, and it was frustrating. But you know,
everyone kept telling me, oh, go put a peanut butter
jarrow for them, That's what everybody else does, And you know,

(43:15):
it just felt wrong to me. It felt disrespectful, and
so I never did.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Yeah, I think what we did, what we did it
for was in the name of research and to eliminate
the possibilities of other creatures. So if I put marbles
and stuff up and they moved around, then it could
be many things.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Right.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
If I put a jab up that has to be
opened and there's no claw or teeth bocks, it tells
me something needs a thumb in order to open it
more than likely. Right, Yeah, then if I leave a
stick there and they use that stick, and I have
proof that they've used that stick by what's in the
peanut butter and what's on the stick, what I find it.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Now, I've eliminated a lot of things.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
Well, there are other animals who can and will open
a peanut butter jar a raccoon, surprisingly can.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
They say that? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Yeah, but I think with them they'll leave a lot
of mocking and stuff like that with their claws and
teeth trying to get it open, as opposed to big
dude just quip you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
So, but yeah, that is a discussion we've all had.
And that's the beautiful thing about our lives. Mary.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
We have this conversation right there. Everybody all over the world.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Has given us input about what raccoons and different animals
and what do you have in your you know, and
your girls do this and we have great conversations about it.
And that's what I love about it because we all
get to learn together.

Speaker 8 (44:37):
You know, Yeah, you do, you really do.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
I'm sorry, I'm curious. Now, what do you use on
your gift themselves?

Speaker 6 (44:46):
Uh? I usually just leave uh, rocks or feathers. Yeah,
and that's about it. Sometimes enough.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
And then have you had add like like our producer
Sam is the same way. She's leaving the trinkets and
things like that. And we're kind of watching her. And
she was our first guest on My MoMA and May
and so she has a lot of cool things going
on in her area. So we've been watching how she
does that. You know what I mean, what kind of

(45:19):
results have you gotten from that?

Speaker 6 (45:20):
Do you have one feathers in return?

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Interesting? I love it.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
So we've had feathers there for a while, Joe and
they they really haven't messed with the feathers too much
right now.

Speaker 7 (45:33):
You know, my brother had a couple of hot feathers
tied together and left it there.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
And yeah, ye, so he just hung it up by.

Speaker 7 (45:42):
A little little twig, just you know, to them and
and hasn't been touched.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
But it's there. It's there, and it's there, and it's yeah,
it is out of respect.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
And we've done that and we have like you see
on the side, Elder Hi, everybody on the side. Sorry,
I'm just in enjoying this conversation and you're part of it.
Elder medicineveh Claus.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
She's someone that has also guided those with a lot
of different things.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
Ok.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
And I'm sure she feels the same way about the food,
but it's you know, she has given us other ways
to show respect.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Scent does like tobacco and stuff to spray, so all
kinds of cool things like that.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
So we do try to do our best to keep
it real, but try to gather be researchers in a
way to where we can get information that I guess is.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
You know the percentages. I play the percentages a lot. Okay,
like structures, how do you feel those structures?

Speaker 6 (46:37):
It depends on the structure, But you really have to
study it correct because I, in my humble opinion, I
think that ninety nine percent are naturally made, you know,
like for wind or snowload or something like that. But
then the other ones, once you study them, then you

(47:00):
and see that they've obviously obviously been manipulated, and and
then you have to make sure and study them a
little bit more and to make sure that, uh, it's not
possible for a human to have made something like that.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
We we we have timplogol On here.

Speaker 7 (47:26):
You see the name Tim and air blogo a part
of the COLO project, and you and Richie happen to
be out in western mass into the area and to
do some researching out there. And and obviously the landscapes
are a lot different in the mountains and different landscapes,

(47:46):
different trees, higher.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Trees, so on and so forth.

Speaker 7 (47:50):
And we have a discussion with them about tree structures
and things like that, and and believe it or not,
they flat out weren't, you know, into the tree structures,
like some are not ety tree structures, which is fine.
And the only thing is it's just in our area,
which is like more woodland flatter. You know, I've been

(48:13):
on the woods most of my life, but I've never
seen how certain structures that we find, how they're like
tied together, intertwining barely, like on knots of trees, these
twenty five thirty foot xes that are like just touching,
like I said, like little knots from the pine trees,
just put it to place. But all the other the

(48:38):
dead branches are not like broken off, meaning it's it's
not like slamming where you have like physics, velocity, distance
and all that, Like you don't see breaks. Scout scrape
box of the bark things like that, and if it
was human, well, first of all, it's kind of crazy
out the middle of the woods. But you you know,

(49:01):
you probably would find a bunch of big hands everywhere,
camp fire nearby something.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Know that there's not a lot of humans in this.

Speaker 7 (49:07):
Certain area that are like, you know, trying to manipulate trees.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
But yeah, so.

Speaker 7 (49:16):
On the structures themselves, especially a gifting sums while Sam
she gets small axes by her gifting stuff. Each team
small little sticks of axes on the ground. Yeah, the
gifting children, and it's like a sign of respect. Do
you get that in your area?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (49:36):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
We'll get the the different uh, primarily in the one
area that we hit up on a steady basis the
bigfoot there, they'll uh they'll take saplings and they'll tie

(49:58):
and intertwine that tips together or else still tie them
onto a hunting stand. Yeah, to block you so that
you're not climbing up into the stand, you know, so
like a barrier.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
You know, we got a story about those. You'll talk
about that one.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Oh my god, No, you're right, it's crazy. Well, I've
always been a big structure guy.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
And the reason why I have been because I found
some pretty elaborate stuff on my property.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
That made zero sense. And one of them is called
the dream Catcher. And if I can find a picture,
I'll show it to you. But this is more about
you than me. But so I became a structured person
where I started what I and it's kind of what
you said.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
I always tell everybody start at the top. Start with
it being.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
Weather, yeah, and eliminate as you go, so your percentages
of it being weather go down, not your percentage of
it being a structure go up, because you're all gonna
end up Bigfoot, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
And you didn't.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
No one ever watched big make nothing stop it. I
ain't never seen him make it. But I have to
be honest. I have sat there and when there is
no way the magic Whirlwind did that. You know what
I mean, right, And I get in that and it's
it is. Scientifically, it's nothing. Pictures are very difficult to
prove anything.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
You've really got to.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Be standing there to follow it and see where it goes.
Like you said, watch them intertwine and stuff. If you
even get a picture of that in the twining, it's
still tough to present as a picture.

Speaker 6 (51:29):
It really is. And unless you really get a good
angle at it where you can see where it's sort
of like django or pickup sticks, you know, where they're
all intertwined, you know, like you were saying, Lo Joe,
you know, it's amazing, you know. But the thing is,

(51:51):
you know, I always I never say, you know, once
you work down, okay, that it's not whether it's not human,
it's not this and not that. What else are you
left with? Well, possible, it's possible bigfoot. It's possible that

(52:11):
it's something. But since you haven't seen it directly making
that structure, you know, with your own eyes, you don't
know what exactly made it, it's only possible that it
was bigfoot because yeah, they've got opposable thumbs, right, pretty strong.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yes, yes, well that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
And like we're talking about the hunted his chair up
in the woods and up in the tree, and we've
gone by this particular area a bunch of times and
we've seen his little hunting thing and he's got his
little reflectives and he's got his game camera over the
chain to a tree and all that stuff, and we
go buy it. It was with my brother and stuff,

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and it was fine. We went by it again like
a couple of weeks later, and there was all these
nineties like something, and it was all aimed towards the chair.
One of it came from behind the tree into the
back of the of the ladder that goes up to
the chair.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
And I said, look at dude's trying to tell him.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
To get the patty, and that's what he's trying to say,
you know, But everybody you would bring that up.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Then that's the first time I have somebody actually bring
that up.

Speaker 7 (53:19):
Where very dis imagined. Like you know, you look at
this uh you know, you just look at this coned
area and it's like nice and flat, like just beautiful open,
you know, and and then you look to your left,
it's like, uh, you know the tree. But like Richie said,
next thing, you know, this whole area just like blow

(53:39):
like someone dropped the bomb, especially especially right by his area.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Oh yeah, game camera.

Speaker 7 (53:47):
I mean you're gonna see the stackings of the trees,
like you know, these thirty five foot tree stacked like
it just never seen anything like it.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
It's always this.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
Area is wild and one of the things I found
And I don't know how you feel about x'es, and
I don't mean xes, I mean the actual letter x
uh and the tree. I've had some of those that
have been pretty elaborate to that forty feet in this
they're on two little trees, like at the top, kind
of leaning on them crazy, right, and then something goes
straight across the middle of it, like in the.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Back, and you look up and you can't see it.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
It didn't plink go down the tree and all the
branches would have broke right.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
And then there's this other type of X that I
have found now only twice.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
And I got I got a picture I'm gonna show
you and see if you think of it, if you
don't mind. And then I got some pictures of yours
we're gonna share as well. Okay, so hey, let's see
if we Oh, there it is.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
So do you see this X right here?

Speaker 6 (54:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
All right?

Speaker 5 (54:44):
So the cool thing about this AX I'm gonna see,
just because the picture might come up small, this is
what I call an interlocking X. So one side of
this AX is on the back of the tree, the
other side is on the front of the tree, and
the same with the other one that crosses it.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Okay, so mother to me, Mother Nature is not going
to do that. It's not going to happen.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
I mean, it's a very I'll give it one percent
to be fair and stay scientific, but you don't have
to agree.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
That's pretty low, right.

Speaker 8 (55:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
So, and it's only the second one I've ever found.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
I found one of my property years ago, and we
just found this one a month and a half ago,
maybe on our in our research area.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
But that's something there.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
I think that you know the extent of the science
of it, right, because it isn't science, so you have
to try to get as close as possible. And I
think with this one here, I'm like, dude, there's no
interlocking x's are just crazy, you know what I mean.
So I just wanted to share that with you.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (55:39):
We have a lot of fun stuff you would enjoy
yourself out here, except for the peanut.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
But except for the peanut butter. That was that was
Wojo's idea.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
Sorry about that, Mary freaking Wojo told I told you
not to do that.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Dude. I'm like, let's do peanut butter.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
I know, you know, it's funny because we've had we've
had so many back and force about that and We've
had so many back and force about the game camera,
even and I'm not a game camera guy, because I
did the game camera game on my game trail, and
I know something was going on because I have a
I have a picture that I don't always present to
the world because it is it could be controversial, it

(56:23):
doesn't hold much, but I believe it reached around and
set the camera off and left the trail of his
the hair.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
You can to me, you can.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
See the hair and the split ends in the hair
and it's and it's illuminated white. Okay, And that's what
I have for a picture, and that's what I believe
it is. And I didn't share it with anybody because
I was always so scared, always so scared to be wrong,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
So the hair color, that's that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
It could because of a light kind of popped it off,
but it was I'll show it to you on the
maybe on the side, but everybody's gonna yell at me to.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Show them and even though you've seen it before.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
So yeah, so it's really cool. But so here's the
trick with the game camera. They have played with me
on that damn game camera. I couldn't tell you any time.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
And I got flanked twice going to get the car.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Have you ever been flanked? Oh? Yes, yeah right. And
I tried to explain to people flanking is very nerve wracking. Yes,
I felt safe, like I'm going to live, but I'm
scared shitless part of me.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
But I was.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
And I went out there one time. It was one here,
one here, and I'm like, okay, let me just get
this car up here real quick. And I put in
my pocket and I back out down the game trail,
you know what I mean. And I come back the
next day and the game trails blocked off with a
pile of broken fresh chaplains and thorns.

Speaker 8 (57:41):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
They've now changed my game trail.

Speaker 8 (57:43):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
And they're like, no, no, you're not going to do that,
no more, sir, That's what they were like. And then
I got, Then I got, and then I got triple flanked. Triangle, yeah,
triangle two all front one behind me. I put my
hands up. I health communication at this point. Yeah, I'm
gonna leave. Guys. This isn't very nice to surround me.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
A voice it with the manager later, but I gotta
go that way and dude's got to move, and that's
what I said, Yeah, and hand to God, he moved.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
Yeah. So it's the best thing to speak to them
and let them know your intentions as well as they
hand signals, because yeah, they will understand both.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
They understood and that's what blew my mind.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
That's another thing I didn't talk about until I met
Ernie Davio and I think you must know.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
Er.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah, amazing story. Ernie absolutely yes, and and his hand signals.
And when I told him that story, he was like bingo,
And I'm like, I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
I just did it out of you know, respect. I
felt that was being respectful by showing them I had nothing.
And you know, as Wold you would say, we come
no harm, whatever the hell that was. But ah, that's
what he yelled out to big full one time with
Bigfoot's running around us. If we have two of them
running around, does and what wo Jo does? He grabs
a wrapper thinga zing as he holds him up to
the sky and goes.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
We come no harm. That's what happened.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Mary, here's your friend that's on YouTube Live Mary the
whole world start.

Speaker 7 (59:13):
I'm sitting there talking on Richie's like you said, what
like to my left, and you can they're still moving.
You can hear the snaps and everything of rich They're
still here holding up the singer like this. I'm like, oh,
if you're still here, and uh.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
I'm the one with I'm the one with the zingers
kill them.

Speaker 7 (59:36):
Yeah, And they whistled back and going, I think we
better go.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
No.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
It was pretty wild, but that's that's what happened to me.
So the game camera game became crazy. But this we moved.
This game came around a dozen times and we kept
moving high low over.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Here's a question I got for you. Does Mary? Oh,
what's this? Does Mary have? Fine? Let's see this.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
She gets more into action when you're exiting your area. Interesting,
see who believes we do?

Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
I don't know. It's if I'm by myself then yes.
If I'm with other researchers then though, did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
You say by yourself?

Speaker 8 (01:00:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Oh boy, you go by yourself?

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Yes, that is.

Speaker 7 (01:00:24):
Amazing, including about entering them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
That's amazing. She goes by herself. I won't even go
by myself. I almost wanted to go by myself. Well, really, fine,
go ahead, go by yourself. Whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
No, I had to stick by rule number one, never
go alone.

Speaker 6 (01:00:42):
I know, I break my own rule.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
All right, so we're even. We feed them peanut butter
and you go alone.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Yeah, yeah, I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
That's for you. Wojo, I got it. We're good. Well
I think that. So when you go alone, you is
it away from your property alone? Or are you on
your property? And go oh wow?

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
Yeah yeah, so what Well, people go hiking all the time,
so I understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
But we know what we're going out there for.

Speaker 8 (01:01:13):
Yes, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Do you believe in what what nots and woops? While
you're out there by yourself? You do any of that stuff?
Are you? Just listen?

Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
God? No, I learned my lesson do tell the one time,
when was it twenty thirteen something like that, someone had
mentioned to me about a TV show that was gone,

(01:01:42):
the Not Finding big Foot TV show, And they were
telling me how they do whoops and they bang on
trees and so on and so forth, And I though, oh, okay, well,
what the heck, I'll try that. And so I and
a couple of miles from home and did a couple

(01:02:04):
of whoks and nothing happened. Didn't hear anything in reply,
And you know, I waited around for a little bit.
Nothing happened. I went back home. Two thirty in the morning.
I woke up to something banging on the wall of

(01:02:27):
my home right behind my head. And then something banged
on the other wall, and then something else banged on
the other wall, and another one, and then something smaller
running across the roof. And this went on for about
a half an hour. And my husband, God bless him,

(01:02:50):
was deeply sleeping right.

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
Next to me.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
He would not wake up. But he worked construction, and
he worked long hours, you know, getting up at three
o'clock in the morning and or four o'clock and working
until seven o'clock at night.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
And yeah, so yeah, so he was all cold. So
you feel that this was associated with.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
Oh yeah, apparently. All I can figure is I had
crossed the line and I probably went up into their
territory and they felt that I was trespassing or I
crossed some line somehow, some way, and they were telling

(01:03:40):
me about it. They were most definitely letting me know.
And and so from then on, I'll whistle sometimes, but
that's about it. I don't bang on trees, you know,
I won't do whoops or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
I think I'm sorry. I think that's amazing because I've learned.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
I've met almost fifty fifty with this discussion, and I
think it's based on everybody's own experiences as opposed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
To the written rule.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
I came out of my house after a while, and
I've told you and building a relationship, and I would
hear a tree knock, one knock, and I went and
then it would happen and happen, and I go, oh
my god, they're telling the other ones.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
I'm coming out of my damn house now. So I
put two and two together. So I went out there
one day and I said, okay, you want to knock
on a tree, I'll knock on a tree. So I did.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
I knocked on a tree after they knocked, and then
everything went silent, and I said, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
They didn't come get me or anything. So the next
day I didn't hear a knock, so I walked over
to the tree and I went boom, and I knocked
on the tree that nice echo, crystal knock, and son
of a bitch.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Within five minutes, I got a knock back. And we
did this back and forth for six to eight months.
All the time.

Speaker 6 (01:05:04):
Do you ever hear whistles or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I got them.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
We have them recorded. Yeah, okay, yeah, we have them recorded.
We had one run by us. I fought a print.
I smelled dear p. It was the only time I
don't really smell much. And then all of a sudden,
lately i'd.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Been smelling stuff and I go, oh, that smells like
really strong dair yurin, you know. And I looked down
and there's a print in the mud. I lifted this
big fern leaf to show Wojo. I said, Wojoe, come
on over here. I said, oh, there's that smell. And
He's like what I can smell? And then it went
away and then I went, oh shit. And then it
came back and I'm like, oh shit.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
That means it's moving. So I said, dude, it keeps going,
coming and going. He's like uh oh. And then fifty
sixty feet behind us.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Through the woods, bullet fast bang bang bang, And you
just turn around like a goosebumps right now telling you
the story. And I turn around.

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
I'm like, oh, you know, and you react. And then
I looked at Wojo and I said, he the thing,
you know. He quieted right down and went in the
corner and hunkered. And then I said to Wojo, I go, now,
they're gonna have to come get them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
And he goes, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
And was sitting there, and like twenty seconds later we
hear this long elongated whistle come through the woods and
I went there it is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
So I because then you then you go what the
hell's up? And do over here. It's like it's a
game that they play, and I've been in this game before.

Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
Oh yeah, I got.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
A question about that incident actually, now that I think
about it. Yeah, a house away which was like free
football fields away. A dog started backing, but he didn't
bock when I screamed and yelled, he didn't bock.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
When this thing ran through the woods. That was louder
than my yell. I think.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
Do you think they have a way, like with the
infrasound the trigger that dog to kind of distract us
too there?

Speaker 6 (01:06:59):
Yeah, they probably, who knows, they may have hit it
with him for sound or else. He's learned from experience, uh,
to fear them, which is a good thing because they'll
kill dogs. You know, mine has had her own experience
with them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
You know, while I was going to ask you about that,
because you send pictures of your dog. Yeah, so when
you say you go alone, do you go with your dog?

Speaker 6 (01:07:27):
Sometimes? Although not anymore. She's absolutely terrified of them and
I'm not going to put her through.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
So she's been so she's been there when they're around. Yes,
any of your sightings as you seen.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
I think she probably saw it, but I didn't you
know at that that one time that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
One can we have to be your dog? Please excuse me, puppy.
And what's her name?

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
Her name is Shanade, like the singer like O'Connor.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Yes, oh, interesting, you like Sinad O'Connor.

Speaker 8 (01:08:10):
No, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
She sounds like when someone asked me if I like wo. No,
he's my co host.

Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
It's the meaning of the name that I and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
What may I ask? Is it too personal? I'm not
trying to know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
She's a border Collie and so I looked up a
Celtic name Scottish name and uh, her name means God's
gracious blessing O and uh she No, I'm not going

(01:08:47):
to get into it. It's that's something that's really personal.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Yeah, I know that's what I said to you. That's
why I said you didn't have to but thank you
for at that point, thank you just the name, just
her name be it's her name, not the singer.

Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
That is Shineade.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Yes, Hello, it's beautiful.

Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
And I took I sent that photo because it's where
she saw her big foot. Uh you see where those
trees are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
At the open.

Speaker 6 (01:09:20):
Yeah, she was standing there, just at the edge of
the campsite. She had squatted down the peak and I
saw her turn her head because she must have seen
something below her. That's a bluff right there, And immediately

(01:09:42):
she jumped up and ran straight to me, paniced, look
in her eyes, her tail tucked, and she was just shaking.
So I unhooked her from her lead and put her
in my truck where you know, I knew she would
be safe.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Yeah, and there's no need to put her through that.
She did the big foot. I think she meant geographically,
that's a bluff.

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
Yeah, there's a bluff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Yeah, we've had bluff charges. Actually out of.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
You have because it's out to give you a halflare
That one, though, did not make a sound at all.

Speaker 6 (01:10:22):
Nope, this was a juvenile and he was doing it
to divert my attention from another one that was crawling
up behind me, and I'm trying to divide my attention
because I knew exactly what he was doing, and uh
and dug one out that one crowd up underneath my truck,

(01:10:46):
and so I stood next to the wheel of my
truck so he wouldn't grab my foot. But I couldn't
move from the area because there was a disabled lady
with me and I wasn't going to leave her.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
What did I just hear? That's absolutely astounding. So that
is so well, No, because it's scientific proof of what
we just discussed about. The diversion tactics, the flanking, all
that stuff is real. Yeah, at that time, you know
one hundred percent that there's a low crawling, right obviously

(01:11:26):
has to be.

Speaker 5 (01:11:26):
Is that you think it's the spider crawl, a belly crawl.
You probably didn't get to look too much.

Speaker 6 (01:11:31):
No, I really didn't see it, but I smelled him
underneath my truck.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
So you knew he was there.

Speaker 6 (01:11:37):
I absolutely know he was there.

Speaker 5 (01:11:39):
Well, yeah, that's correct, And you position yourself safely behind
your wheels so we can't grab your ankle. Think of
that thought process. Wojo ah. No, Like I'm jumping up
in the bed of the truck if there's not a
camera on the back, like I'm out of there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I'm like, I'm like a I'm telling you, I'd be
on a chair. Like it was a failed moment. Gotta go.

Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
It's like you used to see in the old WB cartoons.
Quick question dream the dreams interpret of Miss d d
She's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Please everybody follow her on YouTube. Question for you, Question
for your guest? Has she ever had a dream that
connected to a future Bigfoot experience or maybe with information
after an investigation?

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
Interesting?

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Love this audience, Go ahead, my people.

Speaker 6 (01:12:28):
Interesting question. Not not that I can think about, although
I have dreamt of them. Uh I don't think that
I really dreamt of anything that connected with a uh
an experience that I've had, at least so far.

Speaker 5 (01:12:53):
Have you Have you had those sketchy dreams after had
an encounter? Because I had the first time it happened
to me, And maybe it was just the excitement of it,
you know, with an experience, not like aciting like yours.
But I was doing those gray, black, flashy dreams afterwards,
and I didn't realize what it was. I just thought
I was excited. Someone else shared the story with me

(01:13:15):
about them having their encounter and then when they went
home it wasn't just exciting. They kind of got woken
up like they're experiencing the creature all over again, like
it was real in a sense. And like I said,
it could be just because it's so imprinted on your brain.
Could But I've had those flashy dreams after experiences. Even
when I was apped, I remember kind of waking up
like a whon. And I don't usually do that, you

(01:13:37):
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Type of dream A spiritual type.

Speaker 7 (01:13:42):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:13:47):
Sometimes maybe they're still trying to connect you one way
or another, and that the memory in the back of
your head is trying to process when you're sleeping.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
And then you know, d D.

Speaker 7 (01:13:56):
If you're on here, you know what I just said,
does the work?

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
Yeah, so yeah, DDI's a dream interpret exactly as she says.
She helps you set your intent before bed, things like that,
and she's absolutely amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
We've been on her show and she's she's just amazing.
She's just awesome. We have so many awesome people on
the side, friends, you.

Speaker 7 (01:14:19):
Know, friends, resources.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Fellow investigators.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Because I actually did a show one time with all
the people that come out of my live investigations as
the guests, because they were the virtual researches and they
research with us. They put headphones on, they watch us
on the screens, they see things, and they interpret things
differently too as well.

Speaker 6 (01:14:39):
Right, they're invaluable.

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
We have to keep in mind too though they're gonna
be they're using a frequency because.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Hey, pretty girl, she need is it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Wojo scare her.

Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
Need?

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
It's okay, he's your big teddy beer. We cut a
lot of time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Don't worry. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
So, But but they also have the gift of the
frequency through the phone and stuff too. And I always
think I always wondered that because I was a paranormal
investigator for many years okay before this, and and the
frequencies on the phones can help them more so than us. Really,
when we're out in the woods, you know, we don't
hear what they hear, or we don't hear it like
they hear it. And they have even told us and

(01:15:24):
correct me if I'm wrong, O Joe. They've even told
us that they heard humming or infra sound when we didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
Okay, yeah, that would come across something like that a
little bit clearer right through the microphone.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Cool theory though, right, and here I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
That's why we teach, That's why we talk to him
about being like you're one of us, like you are
prot of We have more ears, more eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
We're a team. Like let's do this together, like let's go,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:15:51):
And another thing is that, uh, I know a lot
of my or a few of my audience. They some
of them are disabled and so disabled that they you know,
one lady, she's bed bound, but they still want to
be part of it. And this is one way you
know that they are a part of it. You know,

(01:16:14):
they can't walk out in the woods, they can't hike
and or for whatever reason. But this way they're a
part of it. They're an important part huge.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
You're right, I lot, dude. She thinks just like us,
except the peanut butter thing and the going alone thing.
Hey we're ninety friends. We're good.

Speaker 10 (01:16:40):
Yes in well, dogs Okay, there are times that we
do here like you know, the wooves and like right
by with the dogs.

Speaker 7 (01:16:52):
These dogs dogs from a distance, but you can there's
like two of them, but you can hear four. The
other two are just like it's like antagonizing it they
do we I mean I never those four dogs. I mean,
you like bark so loud, and so how I keep
telling Richie they're gonna kill over because they've given them

(01:17:14):
in front of them and you can hear the difference
on the pitches and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Well, well, can I.

Speaker 5 (01:17:19):
Let me add to that, because to clarify, when we
come out where we're parked, there's another whole tree line
on the other side, it's huge, and there's a house
up here and they have their yard.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Lit up like a city.

Speaker 8 (01:17:33):
Okay, and in front of us.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
There's a reason for that.

Speaker 6 (01:17:36):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:17:38):
On top of that, I found a friend of mine
was telling me, oh, I cast a track over here
from friends of mine on the on the river.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
And I so, really, where is it?

Speaker 5 (01:17:47):
And then he had I had sent him where the
research area was with a pin on the map, and
he sends me one back and his pin was like seventy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Five yards from where I was standing, and I'm like
and I'm like, hey, at least we're nowhere in the
right area.

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
And in twenty twenty one he cast a print on
the bank of the river and it was this house
was having the issues.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
But to clarify that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
Evening we heard classic woops from that tree line it was,
and then the dogs are going and I said, oh
my god. That's when we sated, learning that these guys
are actually messing with their dogs to the point where
they're calling electricians. They got posts with big lights on them.
That ain't something you just hang in your backyard for

(01:18:32):
a cookout. There's a reason for that. And it's a
very safe, beautiful area.

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
Yeah. Friends of mine down south they call those booger lights.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Oh I love that. See, I always loved it. Boogers.
They called me wood boogers. Yep, yeah, Matt.

Speaker 5 (01:18:49):
Matt got a question, place is Mary, Have you ever
had a sasquatch dro something at or tour with you?
We had that experience and I could see both adults
who threw the large rocks and the juvenile waiting towards
us in the river. That's one thing he was freaked
out about that night.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Wo Joe. So we were out in this area called
the Folly. The reason why it's called the Farley it's
something like, you know, not as beautiful and wonderful as
your shnade, but we we we call it the Farley
because it's down by the river.

Speaker 8 (01:19:19):
Okay, yes, one up my guts.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
So that's why.

Speaker 9 (01:19:26):
So we have a little areas obviously ribe it, and
all supposed to know what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
When we're talking, all our friends on the side. Down
by the river, we go and step over a log.
I did.

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
I was in front, like a you know, meeting, I'm
the leader, scared little kiddy cat, and all of a sudden,
from bloom, we heard this this explosion in the water,
and it was followed by the blue and the splash,
so like a beaver sliding in which I've heard many times.
It was from above, this type of thing blue and

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you could almost hear it going to the bottom of
the river.

Speaker 7 (01:20:03):
Nothing heavy, four times and it goes down their you know,
coming back up that bush.

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
You know, nothing heavy. I was in the military and
it was like live fire. It was like we were
under attack. So I had taken a step over the
log and that's when it happened. Jump back into Woo's
arms like that, you know what I mean, like save me.
It freaked me out pretty bad. And there was a
bunch of us sitting there and it went off four times.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Ritchie, what did you do? Richie? I said, I just
stepped over the damn log We just I stepped over Richie.
Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (01:20:37):
Have you seen the movie Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Yeah, I've seen it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:41):
Remember the part Weregandolf says you shall not pass.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Yes, yes, yes, yes. We took that hint very well
respectfully to them, and we even spoke to them. We
even we were.

Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
Like, okay, easy man, easy, we're good. We're back up,
little bit. We didn't mean to bother you. It's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
Do you think you know?

Speaker 5 (01:21:03):
We learned a lot from Ernie Dabo different hand signals
and things to use, and we use them. We've actually
recorded what we sent out to a linguist through Tim
Vogel and his brother Eric, who know we're linguist.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
That came back, and of course he's not gonna say, yeah,
that's big foot.

Speaker 5 (01:21:19):
He's gonna say that that those our vocals, those are
based on some kind of dialogue, some kind of words,
and it is a guttural vocal sound.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
That's the best he can do.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
So you know, ninety eight percent of you know, again,
he's not gonna say it's big foot. But when we
go out in the woods, wojos go ha, and then
I'll go because that's what we heard on our recorder, okay,
and we have gotten amazing results from this, Like these
two idiots, know how these two idiots, you know, we
talk to each other, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Like, you know, you look at these two idiots trying
to talk like us again.

Speaker 5 (01:21:51):
You know, and then they'll start with a double soft
double tap. You have experience of soft double taps, and
they're almost where you question.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Yourself, did I hear that?

Speaker 8 (01:22:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Well this tabe we did this. He went black and
it's on recording.

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
It's actually on TikTok and and I went brap back
and then all of a sudden you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Hear tap tap and then you hear tap tap. They
were they were communicating right forth with it.

Speaker 7 (01:22:18):
Where Richie was. Richie was like ahead of me, but
again wild right. It was like maybe after when Richie
said blah blah about like fifteen second delay TKB love
you pal.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
I know I was watching and I think I missed him,
love you bro.

Speaker 7 (01:22:35):
Yeah, so you can hear the tap tap and then
like another like maybe twenty seconds to my left tap tap.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
I go, oh boy.

Speaker 7 (01:22:44):
And we sat there I don't know how many minutes,
but they you can just hear like, you know, the
tapping going on and we're trying to communicate.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
It was just fascinating. Yeah, it was pretty It was
pretty awesome those double taps because you can here to
move too. I mean like, well that's the key, right, yeah, No,
that's the key.

Speaker 5 (01:23:04):
So you've had the double tap right now? Now, question
when a these other things have happened? Right when you
have these sites? You've had five sidings. Yeah, during those
five sidings, can you tell us anything scientific that we
were not scientific? But say, like we've all talked about
to confirm the evidence of say the double tap, of
say the you know, something that goes with is associated

(01:23:26):
with Bigfoot. Has any of those things ever had happen
to you or was it just a sighting when they're like, Yo,
what's up Mary? And they keep rolling out you know
what I mean, They're smoking a fatty, they having a fire,
they drink a beers, like, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Talk to me?

Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
I gotta know, Well, yeah, I don't recall any particular
taps or vocals or anything like that at the time.
On the most part, they were, you know, except for
my first one. The rest of them were maybe a

(01:24:03):
little bit further out, but yeah, still unmistakable as to
what they were, except for the one that is right
around here where I live. Him I've seen well, the
first sighting of him was maybe seventy five yards out,

(01:24:24):
and then the second and third time that I saw him,
he was maybe around fifteen to twenty feet away from me.
But then this was late at night and I could
barely make him out in the moonlight, but I knew
what it was that I was looking at. But now

(01:24:44):
he was quiet and just he was deer hunting.

Speaker 5 (01:24:48):
Oh interesting, And that's you know, that's the funny thing
is that blows my mind right, Like you just said,
they're so quiet.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Yeah, we got the reporter to get.

Speaker 6 (01:25:02):
I can't hear you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
What happened anything? Hello there?

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
Yeah, I can hear you, just that you were.

Speaker 5 (01:25:10):
Like, I don't know what happened. I think Moojo did
something to my stuff to make himself look better.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
No, but I was amazed by we they're quiet because
we had a recorder we put up underneath the gift
and chair. I almost felt like I was betraying them
and they were gonna kill me for it. But anyways,
so we had the recorder under there one comes up.
We have sounds of footsteps. You can hear the pads.
You know it's bipedal, you know it's big. And the

(01:25:39):
dude just chills out, and I'm like, is.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
He still there? I mean, these things supposed to be huge?
How come I can't hear him? And then all of
a sudden, like fifteen twenty minutes of silence, you hear
them stop opening things? What the hell? And then he
goes quiet again, and then you hear him eating it
and you can almost hear him any healing like that. Okay,
then silence again, and it's like fifteen minutes. I'm telling you,

(01:26:05):
headphones like this, I can't hear nothing. Yeah, that's still
for like twenty minutes, okay, and then all of a sudden,
I hear the honey jaws get jingled. We gave them
honey too. Don't be mad, Mary, and shit, I shouldn't
have said that one were coming back. We have a

(01:26:26):
bigfoot grocery store in the woods. He's disgusted with us.
Can you fear them honey to you? As it's natural?

Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
Yes, yes it is. It's from the area and natural.

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
Yeah, Ojo's idea, butter, But you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
Could hear them inhal in the honey and tapping the glass.

Speaker 6 (01:26:51):
Very cool.

Speaker 5 (01:26:51):
We have this on recording and it was funny because
we sat I sat there listening to it and I
was like, oh my god, I felt like Jane Goodall.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
But I'm not there. I'm learning about things through research
that they have these tendencies and techniques.

Speaker 6 (01:27:07):
Very primate.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Like I'd have to agree with that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
Yeah, that's that's the one thing that kind of keeps
me going that way. But I'm like, the intelligence, and
do you think they cloak?

Speaker 6 (01:27:21):
It's possible, or it's possible that because of the qualities
of their hair that they refraction of the sun. Who knows.
I don't know, because their hair is hollow.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
And that's in my picture.

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
That's how I figured it out that because there was
no moderna medulla.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Yeah, it's not in there in the picture.

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
And I took that picture and I compared it to
primates and humans and all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
Yeah, that's why I said. You know, whenever you mentioned
that the hair color, I thought, interesting, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:28:07):
It's pretty wild, dark brown, and then that reflection of
the sun turned.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
All But but you know, with the IR two of
my game camera that night, it made it like a
microscopte microscope to where you were microscopically looking at this.
And I tried telling everybody, follow the white strands. There's
there's split ends on them. Yeah, there's fraid ends, like
they're afraid.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
It's not what's come on, guys, help me out you like,
I'm like losing my mind. It was just so amazing,
such amazing stuff. You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:28:38):
It really is? It truly is?

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Mary? Well, there's actually a few questions. Do you want?
So what we found were manipulated huts. Oh oh hi,
pretty girl.

Speaker 7 (01:28:52):
Also one of the huts is amph you can see
a prince that we met, and we found bones nearby.
Now do you have anything similar like that where like
a huttish like like out in central Mass We found
four of them, like it was like a hotel and

(01:29:13):
where the pine trees were manipulated, going like this three
sides and they pulled extra uh branches off the pine
tree from its not based on top to keep it down.
And Richie went in there underneath and it was like
about was it rich six seven feet?

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:29:33):
Yeah, I would say it was about six feet deep
and nine feet long because I was full stretched arms toes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Everything I didn't get.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
I didn't get a lot of smell out of it
or anything like that. People have asked me that stuff
and and but you could tell it was an impression.
And I got some pretty graphic pictures of it to
where it was almost three D effect where you could
see the dip in the three because I used Scanniverse.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Do you use Scanni?

Speaker 6 (01:29:54):
Versatile said no, there's a an app on your phone.
I can't remember what it's called.

Speaker 5 (01:30:01):
Light It's light r Yeah, like a light on they
but because we use a scan verse, but I think
the light on one would be a good idea too. Oh,
I didn't even see Bojo. This is why we talked
to Mary exactly what I told you. I told you,
I told you we should have talked to me like
it's Women's month. It's great to pick you know their
their research and you know how how they do things.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
But going back to those huts is that, you know,
manipulation whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:30:31):
I'm not going around going as bigfoot, but I found
that very interesting. So I took pictures of the have
you and so we have resources and I have a
friend of mine that that works for the Forestry Department uh,
at the University of Georgia and down to the south,
you know, if there's any evasive bugs.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
That's destroying the trees or whatever. That's what he studies.
So I keep showing him.

Speaker 7 (01:30:53):
All sorts of like pictures and especially these huts, and
he's like, wojo, I've never seen anything like that. I'm
in the woods all the time, like for twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
He goes, I don't know what's.

Speaker 7 (01:31:03):
Going on in Massachusetts, but these pictures are absolutely, like incredible.
So have you seen like any sort of like type
of like manipulation of like hut like and any evidence
of like prints or bones around it.

Speaker 6 (01:31:21):
Yeah, what I've seen is more of the I guess
you could call it tpee types where there's tree branches
or sticks leaned up against the tree or yeah, basically

(01:31:41):
leaning up against a tree or a fallen tree or
something like that, where it creates more of a blind
rather than a hut.

Speaker 5 (01:31:53):
Yeah, you know, because the ones that we have seen
and we see the laurels, you know, around the wet
air is. We had one, well, we have a group
of three or four and this is right in our
research area hare in the Bridgewater, trying a way he
was talking was north central mass And we have my
very first print, this lump of junk that I made

(01:32:16):
my first time.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
The poor thing, I ruined it. Anyways, whatever, I kept
it because it was ods when we got it and
we made the print. But anyway, so we've come a
long way since then. But we also.

Speaker 5 (01:32:27):
Found through Scanaverse another hail print that was in the
ground in pete moss and mud, and it kind of
led to this group of laurels that you would see
them all bent, but they were open on the inside
and they actually had little exits on the back and
the back was all water wetland. We found a bonaf

(01:32:48):
front that it was about a seventeen eighteen inch print
in the leaves, the most profound one I've ever seen
in compost ever. And my whole area's compost was in
this hut. And stupid me, I think I missed a
good chance here because I went back there and there's
a branch about six feet up. It goes like it's
a laurel. It goes like this, and then one goes

(01:33:09):
straight up from that like this.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
And there was a mushroom pulled from the ground with
the roots and dirt hanging on it and the cap
and the cap was balanced on that stick right above
my head.

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
It happened stem. Yeah, and I looked up and I went,
oh my god, I got pictures of it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
It was a gift. I think I blew it with
a gift. I think it was a gift and I
just missed it.

Speaker 6 (01:33:32):
How high was it?

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
How high it's about there's about six feet up. It
wasn't crazy, but it was pulled from the ground in place,
and the cool pot was the cap was placed beyond
the one that stood up. So here's this and the
cap was wrapped around this one, and the stem ran
down the laurel go in that way. It looked like
it was placed just looked on that stick and then laid.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Across the laurel. But interesting, it was exactly right. How
many times you end up saying that, No, many.

Speaker 6 (01:34:03):
Have a lot of times whenever with Bigfoot.

Speaker 8 (01:34:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:34:07):
Interesting, yeah, a lot of interest and stuff. So I
got some let's see unknown cryptive. What's happening? Good evening everyone.
I believe the hall monitors of the woods when there
is a lot of developing going on, and that's why
they're attracted to those areas and try to run people off.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
I disagree. Welcome to the show, sir.

Speaker 6 (01:34:29):
Yeah, they'll they'll mess with the machines, with the construction
machines and so on. In fact, whenever we were building
our home, I kept an eye around the foundation, the
loose dirt because I figured, you know, there's a chance
that they may come by here, because I had seen

(01:34:50):
a lot of sign in the area before we moved here,
and so I figured, well, you never know, they may
come on the product pretty well, lo and behold, Yeah,
I found footprints in the dirt on the foundation.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
That's crazy. I hear that, Sir Patrick, I hear it too.
What is that? It sounds like like peeper is a locust?

Speaker 6 (01:35:14):
Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
What what is that?

Speaker 7 (01:35:19):
I don't know?

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
And not me.

Speaker 7 (01:35:23):
So Richie Mary, excuse me, uh, I know, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
What was his name? Unknown? Equipted? I mean that's a
great question because of when you talk about like equipment
and things like that. Well, there's a.

Speaker 7 (01:35:36):
Junk yard nearby, and this general, this gentleman has a
bunch of equipment out there. But we're the gifting chair
is about one hundred yards away. This is like about
maybe like a forty five foot stacking of trees that's
probably about a little over three almost four feet high

(01:35:56):
with the letter X there, And I said, just you know,
things like that, you know that are just right by,
you know, a junk yard. I mean, I totally agree.
I think that they you know, like unencrypted, like un
known cryptid excuse me, that's like we there's some paths

(01:36:16):
and there were times that someone had a quad out
there and we can we heard it for the first
time and I'm like, oh Jesus, who's riding that around here?
And then the following not even like three days later, Rich,
you know, you got a big, huge tree right smack
in the middle, pushed. I mean it looked like because

(01:36:37):
the explosion. I mean, this is a very healthy tree,
probably like over twenty twenty five inches in diameter pushed.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
That's a ninety degree right smack in the middle of
the of the pathway. And there's other spots where they
were pushovers. And I find that kind of amazing that
yeah they are. The said that's your home.

Speaker 6 (01:37:00):
That's yeah, exactly, that's what it is. And funny how
so many trees fall just across the path.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
Yeah, we've had this conversation. I won't, Joe, So I'm sorry.
What was that? Goreg Mary say again.

Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
It's funny how those trees seem to always fall across
the paths. Are our footpaths or trails?

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Yeah? Or the locust is gone, that's distracted, like what
is happening? What is happening tonight? What is going on?
To come on this block cast is usually nuts, but
this is like, this is backwards and sideways. And I
almost said notts, I shouldn't say that. So anyways, we've

(01:37:49):
had this conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:37:51):
So what they did to my beautiful land, Mary, with
that preservation and conservation land, they they decided to make
pass through it because everybody has a right to the land, Okay,
which is fine. Yeah, but we don't cut down fresh
trees to do that. We go around those fresh trees,
so we wear bigger boots. I don't agree with that
one hundred percent. And we've since filed a grievance because

(01:38:15):
of that. Not only that they entered our property and
took about twenty feet of it out with them, yeah,
without surveying, apparently because I own that land and I
wasn't happy about them being there in the first place.
But you know, so I said to Wojo, I said,
oh my, dudes, aren't gonna like this. And he was
philly new and I'm risking sounding like a loon, and

(01:38:36):
I'm like, I'm like, they're gonna be trees all across
his path. Watch next time we come out here, I
promise you, dude, we go back there. The trail has
a sign on it saying close for construction.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
I said, watch bro with him, Me and him a
hopscotch and over all these trees. And I'm like, nice job, dudes.
You know, I'm so psyched because I love those woods.
They're sacred to me. Yes, I don't want people in
them like that. Just walk through the damn woods. You
don't need a path five boats, Jesus.

Speaker 7 (01:39:06):
You don't need people like jogging into the woods like
this one guy we saw like jogging, like, get out
of here, you guys, really, I mean, there's plenty of roads,
there's plenty of tracks around towns, and you picked this
area to like chop it up and just just to
run around into the into the woods. Very was fascinating.
Is this one part that we call like the bed

(01:39:29):
zone of the of the path. Uh, it's like a
football field. The one corner of this football field ever
ever gets touched, you should have seen like everything was
just like all across the path like a rich what
the hell? Just like the whole I'm talking about a

(01:39:49):
good If I was gonna do like a survey of
an area of maybe like fifty ads around they destroyed,
I wouldn't believe.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Like they bought the path. They were not. I knew
they weren't going to be happy, you know what I mean.
I've been so that was placed into a tree. Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah you all right? So when when you go on,
how far away are you from civilization? On average?

Speaker 6 (01:40:16):
Say, it depends on where I'm going. But the Alleghanty
National Forest, Uh, civilization is maybe uh an actual town
maybe twenty miles.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
So and Alleghany is very haunted places the Allegate was it?
The Alleghany is a psychiatric hospel or something that was
out there?

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
Oh that yeah, yeah, that's down in West Virginia.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
Oh that's right, yeah yeah yeah, But it's very, very,
very haunted. And that name Alleghany kind of comes with it.
And you're in the Alleghany Forest, that's scary, so scary,
so but I guess my point is this, we haven't
gone back to my property a lot, because, like I
just said, there's been a lot of human activity now,
and you know that takes away from the evidence. You
can't you have to now account that into a tree

(01:41:12):
break right now, You're gonna be like humans are out here.
When I had my experiences, there was nothing, nobody, never
ever out there. I had owned this property cent o two,
and it started ramping up around I'm gonna say, oh five,
o six, oh seven, And it could have even happened
right when I got there, but I was too ignorant
to realize what was happening around me and didn't think
much of it because it took a while for it

(01:41:33):
to build up to where it was like, oh, that
must be something, you know, and then here I am.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Years later.

Speaker 5 (01:41:39):
It was about eight years where I really started having
my interactions with them, and then I'd lost a son
in twenty twenty two. He was still born. And I
always tell this, he gave me my inspiration. He helped
me follow my passions. He helped me kind of get
up at a out of the phrase the fetal position,
off my bed and live again. And this is why

(01:42:00):
I started my podcast was to honor him and that
thank you, and it was aw But it's so therapeutic
and it's so amazing because I feel chosen. Yes, do
you feel chosen by them?

Speaker 8 (01:42:12):
Yes? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:42:13):
Crazy And that's you kind of touched on one of
the reasons why I named Shinaide because I lost my
son in twenty seventeen and I just yeah, about six
months later, you know, I needed something to cuddle, I

(01:42:35):
needed to mother something, and so I got her.

Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
Well, that's amazing, and I'm sorry for your loss as well,
and thank you for going there.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
I didn't hope. I don't feel forced at that.

Speaker 5 (01:42:47):
I just I'm very open about this and I've spoken
a lot on my show, and I think it's therapeutic
to sit down with people like yourself and talk about
our passion and our love for what we're doing.

Speaker 8 (01:42:56):
Yeah. It helps, It honestly does.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:43:00):
You know, just going out, you know, into the woods alone,
you know, it's uh, I find my peace there. I
go out and I find myself more open to God,
to pray, and you know, I'm a Christian with a
very deep faith, and it's just it brings me closer

(01:43:25):
to God.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
I love it. I love it and I've said it
to wo Jo. Great, I'm sorry, Oh no, no, no,
go ahead.

Speaker 11 (01:43:32):
Rich Also and prayer, uh, you know, praying and kind
of just you know, God's beautiful world, even though it is,
you know, saveings trying to ruin it for everybody we know.

Speaker 7 (01:43:45):
But all saying is it's it's the beauty it gives you,
you know, thank you Mary. It just gives you a
lot of I'm sorry, I'm just thinking of a lot
of things like how I feel it gives you just
piece and.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
It's good that you pray. Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:44:04):
And I said that to Wojo a few times where
I'm just having and he said it to me, like
we just need to go touch the touch the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
We need to be near the trees, you know what
I mean. It's it's different.

Speaker 5 (01:44:14):
It's when you get out there, like I feel closer
to Jack and and I know Jack's with me, and uh,
we always have that hawk experience out there because we
know it's Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
And it's been amazing. I've talked to the locust is
a back.

Speaker 6 (01:44:31):
Yeah I heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
What are you up to? Dude?

Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
But so I just I just I'm so grateful for
that you sharing that and our thoughts and love and
prayer with you. And I know how obviously, I know
how difficult it is, and but it's amazing to turn
that around. And when I when I lifted myself up
off the mat, I said, oh my god, he's looking
at me right now, he can see his daddy.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
I got goosebumps. I don't want to cry.

Speaker 5 (01:44:56):
And I said, I don't want him to see me
like this. I want him to be proud of his day.
And I said, all right, son, I'm gonna make you proud.
And I could almost hear him saying, dad, Dad, tell
him the story. You know, you know, do what you're
passionate about, share your story. And I knew what he
was talking about. And I said, you know what, I'm
gonna do that. And I called Bobby Lee, my executive
producer and co founder of this and I said, Bobby Lee, I.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
Want to start a podcast. She's like, I've been waiting
for this phone call. You're perfect for a podcast. You're nuts.
Let's go, you know, And And all of a sudden,
I had, within twenty four hours, I had green screens
and computers and all this artwork and I'm like, what
the hell is going on? And I was slammed down
in a chair and make up and Laurie, let's go action.
You know, it was just nuts. And I noticed once I.

Speaker 7 (01:45:39):
Got in front of the camera wound and there you're
looking at him right now.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
What But but it was just like once I got
in front of it and I was done with my
first show, I was like, oh my god, I felt
so good. Yep, like it just felt so good man.
And I was like, thank you too.

Speaker 5 (01:45:55):
You'll hear me tonight at the end of the show
when I talk about baby Jack and thank him.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
And but yeah, it's amazing and so wow. Either investigations,
I mean, we look forward to going out to be
with them and just you know what, it's a good
I don't know, meditation good, you know, just to be
out there. And it's just that's why I look forward to,

(01:46:18):
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:46:20):
But Mary, one thing I wanted to ask you, I
think you who would ask a long time how about
night investigations?

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
Oh yeah, good question. Let's talk about you. Have you
done any night investigations? And if so, oh yeah, I
got proof. Yeah We've got plenty of that.

Speaker 6 (01:46:36):
Oh yes, yeah, I've been on quite a few of them. Yeah,
there's uh well, although this one came from a camera
game camera, it's a live stream and uh yeah, that
one came from the game camera from it's called the

(01:46:58):
Bigfoot live Stream Project and there's an app on both
Android and Apple that you can download it and it's
just a live stream of As a matter of fact,
it's our research area.

Speaker 5 (01:47:17):
And so they did something totally separate, but it happened
to be in your research area.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
Yes, that's awesome, dude.

Speaker 6 (01:47:23):
Oh, it's just an added dimension. You know that this
gentleman from Texas approached us because he knew that, you know,
our he had heard about our area and he's he
begged you know that to put up you know, these

(01:47:44):
cameras on there. And of course we had to go
you know the property owners. Uh it's an elderly couple.
So you know, we had to approach them very carefully, respectfully,
and you know, I I said, don't push them, you know,
just will present the facts to them, you know, let

(01:48:05):
them know what's going on. That your privacy will not
be affected.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
So so you're saying you went up to an elderly couple.

Speaker 5 (01:48:17):
And you delicately told them that this big full of God.

Speaker 6 (01:48:22):
They told they approached me.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Oh so they've had experiences.

Speaker 6 (01:48:27):
Oh goodness, Yeah, it's amazing. They bought this property about
twenty years ago and they moved into the house. There
was still furniture in the house, there were still dishes
on the table. So whoever owned that house before them

(01:48:49):
left in a hurry. This is a very active area.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Wow. So and everybody locally understands the problem.

Speaker 6 (01:49:00):
Yeah, they Yeah, this couple approached me at a conference
that I was hosting, and they asked me to come
and you know, check it out. And so I did,
and I brought in a couple other friends, a friend,
a couple of friends from Canada, and we checked it

(01:49:23):
over and yeah, they got Definitely they've got activity. And
so we've we've brought up photos, you know, those photos
from the camera and a couple other ones that I
didn't include. Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
That's awesome. But so everybody's working together, yes.

Speaker 6 (01:49:52):
Yeah, And whoever watches this live stream, you know, it's
twenty four to seven, and so if they spot something,
they can push the button that says right on the screen,
it says report a sighting, and you push that button
and it'll tag that time stamp, your time stamped at

(01:50:15):
particular spot, and so it can be checked out, you know,
by another researcher.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:50:23):
I think that's incredibly smart and brilliant in something that
I've discussed with Wojo about but not in that format.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:50:31):
It's uh, this guy, he's uh, the guy in charge
of this. He's looking for other properties throughout the United States.
So if if you're interested in it, you know, contact you,
you know, excuse me, offline and arrange for you to

(01:50:53):
speak with him.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
I think it'd be an interesting conversation. You need to
take another ship. We'll wait for you.

Speaker 5 (01:50:59):
Voto is going to Sting anyways. Yeah, hey, we'll jump
show Mary how you sing?

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
Oh see a way for the music? All right?

Speaker 12 (01:51:13):
So maryaciously what if that's you widow.

Speaker 6 (01:51:28):
Very white.

Speaker 7 (01:51:30):
Before?

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
Oh yeah, too funny? That was actual?

Speaker 8 (01:51:42):
All right?

Speaker 7 (01:51:43):
So Mary, Like, we did our first night investigation in
the same and when we went out there, we didn't
know what to do. We were just so like, okay,
we're going out on a night investigation. We're so excited.
But then you started hearing like distant like growls, and
then all of a sudden, the branches a snap it ah,

(01:52:07):
and we just sat there frozen, like, oh my god,
something's really angry. But you can't see anything, no lights,
no nothing. And then there were times that you hear
like little like owls and someone something trying to intimidate owls,
and another one trying to intimidate a deal, like like
a faon at like that. I'm like, no, that's not
a deal.

Speaker 5 (01:52:26):
Imitate, imitates, not intimidate, But yeah, you want some of
this owl boy?

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
That was a fun time, man.

Speaker 13 (01:52:36):
Miss our next investigation, we went we went out and
we and that was getting dark out and we didn't
expect another night investigation.

Speaker 7 (01:52:48):
So Richie had the only flashlight. Now I walked away
from Richie in part of the group, and I'm on
the main path and I can hear a movement on
my left, it's my right, and so I decided because
we were to walk right out right out of the woods,
and we had about one hundred less than one hundred
yards left, and so I decided to turn to each

(01:53:09):
every time I heard a sound, I gave him like
you know, Ernie's he had signals hey, this and that
as we were walking out, just like before we walk
out of the woods all of a sudden, what is
what are we looking at? And we just saw shines
of light like they had to be about five of them,

(01:53:32):
five six of them, Yeah, one of them, which will
tell you that that was tall.

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
No. No, So what what he's referring to is the
the woo of the self illuminating eyes.

Speaker 5 (01:53:47):
They talk about have you ever experienced like what's behind
me on the wall?

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
Where is your believability on that?

Speaker 5 (01:53:53):
And percentage wise and and have you ever experienced it
or vice versa.

Speaker 6 (01:54:00):
Yes, I've experienced it. And my personal theory is that
I don't know. I try to go things through things logically,
and uh, unless you're deep in a cave, there is
always ambient light always, and so there's and it's possible reflecting.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
She's just like me, wo Joe.

Speaker 5 (01:54:37):
It's like you're talking to me, I swear to you,
and I know what I saw, and I'm still where
Mary is.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
Right because I'm like, I'm like, well, yeah, it's.

Speaker 6 (01:54:46):
Always possible about the self illuminating who knows like.

Speaker 7 (01:54:53):
Owls to the ground, like low to the ground, like raccoons.
I'm just thinking any animal if you it's like the
eye shine that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
It wasn't shine, but what particularly shine? This is what's
got me so stumped.

Speaker 5 (01:55:08):
And why are our boy Jackson up here? Bojo named
him jack my son Jackson and he's got his red eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
That's what I saw. That is what I saw.

Speaker 5 (01:55:18):
And there's about eleven feet up here, and they were
all talking about the other sets, and I'm like, well,
you know, there is a house over there. I'm with you, Mary,
there is lights coming off the pocket here. You know,
I'm looking for things because I go to the logical instantly.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
That's it. I'm like, I don't oh yeah, I don't care.
That must have been a wrecked home. You know.

Speaker 5 (01:55:37):
I'm not trying to be an idiot, but I'm trying
not to be like big for big for Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
I want to learn and I want to process slowly.

Speaker 5 (01:55:45):
And this thing, Mary, whatever it was, I was looking
around taking it all in. I got it on live YouTube,
and I look up to my left eleven feet or
so up and there's one of those like you see
right now with my head and a way and then
all of a sudden, Mary, dude must have known. I
swear it was like he knew what I was thinking.

(01:56:06):
And he said, I'm gonna blow this suck as mine.
That was my nineteen seventy swear word. Was that pretty good?

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
So it is?

Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
So then you go, sorry, Mary, I got a d D.
I didn't tell you that before the show. I probably
should have.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
So then all of a sudden, he goes to the
tree like this, he.

Speaker 8 (01:56:21):
Goes yep, okay, yep, and then two.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
Appear, and the way he did it, what am I hearing?
What was that? What is going on today? Did you
hear that?

Speaker 6 (01:56:36):
And now the peepers are back?

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:56:38):
I heard I heard that. Yeah, they're following us.

Speaker 5 (01:56:43):
Anyways, So then all of a sudden, all of a sudden,
it was almost like it was looking down at me,
like the eyes went like this.

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
I said eyes. That didn't mean to say eyes. The
lights went like.

Speaker 5 (01:56:53):
This right, and then it slowly went back to where
it was back up and there was one.

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
And I sat there like this, going what did I
just experience?

Speaker 5 (01:57:05):
And I'm a logical man, and I'm trying to process,
and I'm trying to ravel it in and I'm trying
to wrap it up, and I'm trying to tuck it
in my pocket and.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
Shut my mouth and all the way home.

Speaker 4 (01:57:14):
I'm going.

Speaker 5 (01:57:16):
I'm a of the earth, blood flesh, primitive primate. This
is not supposed to be happening. Yeah, this is not
supposed to be We put a game camera thirty yards
directly aimed at the chair. Everything was gone and there
was nothing on the game camera.

Speaker 6 (01:57:36):
Was there any interference in the camera?

Speaker 5 (01:57:39):
And oh, well, let me tell you something about the
interferance member when they ran by us.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
I told you about that on the left. And I'm
over here with my live YouTube and I go there.
He is right there, It's right there, And all of
a sudden, I look at my screen. They go you,
screen's black. Ask him? They were all here.

Speaker 5 (01:57:52):
Everybody on the right was here. Dhood see him? All
they were like you. Screen went black and.

Speaker 9 (01:57:57):
I was looking at a frozy looking at a frozen screen.
Didn't realize it of my imagery in front of me,
but I was not rolling.

Speaker 5 (01:58:08):
Yeah, so I had to clear out of YouTube and
then go back into YouTube.

Speaker 6 (01:58:13):
Yeah you know what causes it? Talk to infrasound.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
Dang, Well, back to INFRACID. I knew it was unbelievable.
Deliver have my phone.

Speaker 6 (01:58:22):
The arm and by has done experiments and I had
to dig for this. I had to dig pretty deep.
But the infrasound will interfere with electronics. It'll drain batteries, just.

Speaker 8 (01:58:36):
Like the MF Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:58:38):
We've had that happen, yeah, big time, And it was inverted.

Speaker 7 (01:58:42):
Inverted.

Speaker 5 (01:58:43):
It flipped his phone camera around to where we're looking
at his chest, and I go, bro. Right after that incident, like.

Speaker 7 (01:58:49):
Go pro and then you know, I have a facing
out towards you know, towards the towards the woods. I
got the audio, but all of a sudden, like everything's
inverted into my chests. I go, no way, I go,
I what just happened because we're trying to like look
at the picture. I go, Ritchie, I'm telling you it
was not it was not invert. It was outverted. No way,

(01:59:11):
but at least I got the sound. But the sound
on there, it's it's that loud where we're talking over
like sixty seventy feet. It have to be loud that
my phone picked up on it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. And for them to say
that to me, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 5 (01:59:27):
The whole all my friends on the right, everybody that
you see there right now, was there.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
And they hear you know, they heard my reaction to
me yelling like I was yelling. I was like, whoa,
I know I should be like I hear something, Let's
see what happens next, But no, not me. I'm like,
daren you are I found you? You know what I mean?
Like I win?

Speaker 5 (01:59:49):
You know, I just I get so excited as I
am right now having this conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
Just reliving it is amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:59:55):
And then have you throw something out like that is
amazing too, because you're scientifically of research this the area
and we need answers because we're going through this.

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
And who do you tell? Right? Who do you talk?

Speaker 6 (02:00:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
Yeah, no, I know I didn't get them because my
camera went black. Yeah you of course. Okay, guys lying again?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (02:00:17):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
Yeah, oh there is.

Speaker 6 (02:00:22):
But yeah, I've gone on lots of night investigations, and uh,
I think the most memorable one would be from a
research trip that we took out to Oklahoma, YEP. And
uh we were with a group of there were about

(02:00:43):
fourteen of us all together, and we we were there
for a week and uh, everybody except for one person,
saw at least one big foot that that entire week. Wow,
it was fantastic. Oklahoma is an amazing state. It's amazingly active.

Speaker 5 (02:01:10):
Do you know Brian Terrell? Do you know Brian Terrell
Terrell from Red Dirt Cryptids.

Speaker 8 (02:01:17):
No, I don't think so look him up.

Speaker 5 (02:01:19):
Great man, great investigator, great research out of Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
Amazing dude.

Speaker 5 (02:01:24):
If you ever have anything you want to know about Oklahoma,
you'll put your right direction. Not a gatekeeper, total share
of Yeah. I love that, dude. That's the people we
love to hang with.

Speaker 1 (02:01:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:01:33):
I was with Tim Kumbo Baker who is in charge
of it, and Chuck Schabs from Oklahoma, and quite a
few other ones. Really great, great group of guys and ladies.
But the one evening we were in an area nicknamed Purgatory.

Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
Oh boy, ye your first mistake, Mary.

Speaker 6 (02:02:04):
I had heard about it. I had heard quite a
bit about it, so I was excited to go there. Uh,
Danny O'Donnell, I was not in the area X, although
I have been near there.

Speaker 5 (02:02:20):
Denny coming up with some Benny, I've.

Speaker 6 (02:02:24):
Been near there, but this was in the southern Oklahoma
and uh near near an a darko. And what happened
that evening was h Tim Baker combo. He was experimenting

(02:02:45):
with a new technique, and this technique involved blowing on
an instrument, and the particular sound that this instrument makes
is once you reach this particular frequency, particular pitch and volume,

(02:03:16):
it is absolutely irresistible to the bigfoot. They have to respond.
They have to yes, Henry, Yes, Henry, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:03:35):
We have very smart Listen, the people we have here
are amazing. They're all so into this and they have
a ton of plethora of knowledge. That's my word of
the night, it's plethora.

Speaker 6 (02:03:46):
Yeah. Koombo was the very first one.

Speaker 8 (02:03:50):
To use this car Wow.

Speaker 6 (02:03:53):
Wow, it was the first one. And I highly advise
you no matter exactly, Henry, it is it's biblical. And
so that's your first warning as to this instrument. It's
biblical and the results that you get are extremely dangerous.

(02:04:17):
I cannot stress that enough. That we were in a
group of fourteen, and that was for a reason. That
was for safety, because believe me, if we were in
a smaller group, we would have been ripped apart. There
were three big foot that responded to that call. Each

(02:04:38):
one was in totally opposite directions, maybe three or four
miles out, and they responded by roaring, just you could
tell they were pissed, really, and they came in running.
They were hot and heavy, roaring all the way. And

(02:05:01):
here we are. We're the fourteen of us, well really
thirteen of us, huddled together. My sister was still on
the truck just totally OBLIVI oblivious as to what was
going on, thank god. But we heard them coming in

(02:05:25):
and they stopped about fifty yards out, and you know,
this was red room midnight. We could see shadows moving around,
you know, in the bushes. We could hear them. But
whenever they came in that close, they were quiet. But

(02:05:47):
you know, we could tell they were moving around, but
they didn't come any closer. And the impression in Koombo
and I have spoken about this quite a bit. The
impression that we got was they were waiting for another signal,
which they did not get and thank god because it

(02:06:11):
would have been Book of Revelations level.

Speaker 3 (02:06:15):
So.

Speaker 5 (02:06:16):
So, but when you're going into this, does does does
the gentleman understand that that irritates or what is the
what is the reasoning of it?

Speaker 6 (02:06:24):
Is the show far it's to call them during the
last days.

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
Okay, so they get worked up because they are they
thinking it's the last days.

Speaker 6 (02:06:34):
Yeah, that's why they stopped and waited, because there's a
second call that they did not leave. And uh, that
the only one that will blow that show far at
whatever particular pitch that they'll get at that time.

Speaker 1 (02:06:55):
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (02:06:56):
But it's destruction time. That's whenever everyone who's left on
the earth will be ripped apartner.

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think
we're doing that.

Speaker 8 (02:07:10):
Watch No, please don't no, No.

Speaker 5 (02:07:13):
There's no no, there is no need for please, miss Mary,
there is no need.

Speaker 6 (02:07:18):
Yeah, because there's you know, once Tim, you know Koombo
started talking about the show far, a lot of foolish
people out there talking about, oh I have to go
out and grab the show far now, and so yeah,
they'll get a response, you know, and maybe they a

(02:07:42):
call to arms. Yeah. But like I said, you are
playing with powers beyond your comprehension and I cannot say
it anymore stressfully than that. You know, It's it's something

(02:08:04):
that I highly advise.

Speaker 5 (02:08:06):
Not to fool with, right, Yeah, no, And we're not
ones the fool with things, Peter, Butter is our limit
to be honest with you?

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
Maybe some honey once in a while.

Speaker 5 (02:08:15):
But we're not going we're not going that crazy, you
know what I mean? Yeah, No, And that's a good
point that you bring up. And and and you know,
when you are doing this, if you're out there, you
know understand what you're doing, you know. And there's times
where we're on the edge, we feel where we've kind
of gone beyond it a little bit, but we try
to learn from them and then communicate with them.

Speaker 1 (02:08:38):
What do we do? What happened?

Speaker 6 (02:08:40):
Dreams interpreter She had a dream like that?

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
Oh? Sorry? Where was it? You had a dream like that? Wow?
Well with the chaufa? Is that what she's talking about?

Speaker 6 (02:08:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
Come on, man, interesting, it's just scaring me. Yeah, dude,
we've gone all over the place tonight.

Speaker 5 (02:09:03):
This has been crazy. You've actually run over nine minutes.
I could run. I mean, who's the boss?

Speaker 1 (02:09:07):
Really? Just Wojoe? Nobody listens to him, you know what
I mean? Now, I want to listen to wo Joe myself. Listen.

Speaker 5 (02:09:16):
I I just I love that. I love this whole conversation.
I just I love the open mindedness of it. This
is is huge for me. I just think it's so
important as you do it was a lion coming from
the sky and my dream, and then others followed, all right,
I'm out, I'm leaving Waloe, close out the show, gotta go,

(02:09:40):
I'm done.

Speaker 6 (02:09:41):
Fascinating.

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
She's amazing. Yes, that's I really love her. Respect her.
She's amazed.

Speaker 6 (02:09:49):
She thought was a lion.

Speaker 8 (02:09:51):
Okay, okay, yeah, okay, I see that.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
I see where we're going with this.

Speaker 5 (02:09:57):
I got Mary fabius pictures I'm trying to look or
your I had it that amazing logo of yours.

Speaker 6 (02:10:04):
Oh Richard, I said, you don't God knows how many
photos A lot.

Speaker 1 (02:10:10):
Well, I was going through them and they kept coming
in separately, but they'd go into an email or Google
drive that I didn't have permission to.

Speaker 5 (02:10:16):
So I was pulling out the ones that it let
me let me do. But I gotta be honest with you,
no offense. But I don't need a picture to sit
down and have a great conversation with you.

Speaker 1 (02:10:25):
I am very very very very very happy with this,
this whole interview and your openness and honesty and just amazing.

Speaker 6 (02:10:33):
I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:10:34):
I love that. I just love just yeah. Goodbye, Tim.
Try not to cut off your other foot. If you
want to get rid of the other foot, put a
show fire in your mouth and go on the woods. No,
not really, just kidding. The opinions of the show is
not But I could do a fast talking thing for
my for my show, for the show. Wojo, don't believe

(02:10:57):
anything this idiot says.

Speaker 6 (02:10:59):
I can continue from that story from that night after
nothing happened, and eventually the Bigfoot went away, and we
waited around a little bit longer, nothing happened. So we figured, well,
it's twelve thirty at night. We've got three hour drive

(02:11:21):
back to camp, so it was time for us to go.
So we pulled out in our caravan of seven vehicles,
and we pulled out on and can't remember what highway
it was. It's heading towards Anadarko and one of the

(02:11:44):
vehicles was having problems running. I don't know what engine
troubles he was having, but we we all pulled over
into the parking lot of a casino and so we're
sitting there and everybody else, you know, went over to

(02:12:05):
the guy you know that's having problems with his truck
and they're helping him with his truck. Well, the four
of us in our friend's truck. We were retired. We said,
heck with that, we're just going to stay in here.
So I was sitting behind the driver and my sister

(02:12:26):
was sitting next to me on the passenger side. Chuck
Schaubs was in the front passenger's seat, and the driver
and my sister. Both of them were fairly inexperienced. It
didn't matter where we were. You know, as soon as

(02:12:47):
we would stop, they would get on their phones and
start texting or playing on their phones or whatever. You know. Anyway,
their face was in their phones. They're not aware of
their surroundings. Right, Whereas Chuck and I were more experienced.
We know that no matter where you're at, you always

(02:13:09):
maintain situational awareness. And you know, we're looking out the
windows now. Mind you were in the parking lot of
a casino, and all of a sudden I noticed I
saw a movement. A bigfoot came running out between the

(02:13:34):
two buildings, the casino and the building next door, ran
across the brightly lit parking lot, through the pickup trucks,
across the highway and into the woods on the other side.
Chuck said, did you see that? And I said yeah,

(02:13:55):
and my sister and the driver, you know, they got
their heads up out of they're found and said what
what what happened?

Speaker 1 (02:14:03):
OUCHU?

Speaker 6 (02:14:09):
So yeah, Chuck and I a little bit later, we're
comparing notes, and you know, I asked him, how long
do you think it took? You estimate it took for
him to run that distance? And uh, Chuck and I
both agreed right around three seconds. And off hand, I
can't remember how how many yards that is? That it

(02:14:32):
because I looked on Google worth and measured the distance.
So I took the time three seconds along with the distance,
and so I was able to estimate just about how
fast he was running. And I always ask everyone, I say,

(02:14:54):
take a guess, Yeah he was, mind you, he was
running full out across that parking lot. And take a guess.
How fast do you think they can run?

Speaker 1 (02:15:09):
Oh a bigfoot?

Speaker 8 (02:15:11):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (02:15:11):
Four whow Oh my god, that's a great question. I
don't know, because I got the woo in my brain too.
I could say realistically forty five miles an hour or
wooed out at sixty five.

Speaker 1 (02:15:26):
Yeah, what's wrong with that? I think it's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (02:15:29):
Same guess anyone from.

Speaker 5 (02:15:31):
The audience, anybody for the audience, You got to guess
at how fast big Foot can run, Henry.

Speaker 6 (02:15:37):
Henry says fifty to fifty five. Okay, okay, all right,
Henry's the closest. I figure fifty two miles an hour?

Speaker 1 (02:15:48):
Oh man, fifty two?

Speaker 5 (02:15:52):
So oh because he said fifty all right, so I
was at forty five, all right, he got me by
five whatever, Henry, No, I agree, No, I mean I
think that's realistic. I mean, think about what creatures can run,
cheaters or whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:16:05):
You don't know, however you want to look at it.

Speaker 5 (02:16:07):
But there's other creatures besides just cats that can run fast,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:16:12):
I think that's interesting. His heck, now, how do I
say again? How you deciphered all that numbers?

Speaker 6 (02:16:17):
Okay? Three seconds? It took him to run from point
A to point B. Okay, from the casino building where
I first spotted him, right where he went into the woods, okay,
and versus the time well or the distance you know

(02:16:40):
from the yeah, the time three seconds and the distance
from the casino across.

Speaker 1 (02:16:53):
But trying to talk science, there, whoa Joe who's texting
you that? That goes boing?

Speaker 6 (02:17:00):
Like?

Speaker 1 (02:17:01):
Who does that idea?

Speaker 7 (02:17:02):
I'm looking at mirror because I'm like, I'm just like
picturing all this.

Speaker 5 (02:17:06):
I am toe and then all of a sudden, this
big boy comes flying out. Well, so you did the distance,
So basically you did the the you know the picture,
and yeah, fifty two miles an hour. That's nuts And
it sounds about right from what I had rumbling by
me in the woods. Yeah, the way that thing picked
up pace and then went dead silent.

Speaker 7 (02:17:37):
What is going on?

Speaker 8 (02:17:42):
What's a miracle?

Speaker 1 (02:17:44):
Like?

Speaker 5 (02:17:44):
Yeah, why are you? Why are you playing with a
show fire in you're living room?

Speaker 8 (02:17:49):
I just kidding.

Speaker 1 (02:17:49):
I don't sound like that, but it was like biblical
music coming from my pants because skin.

Speaker 6 (02:17:58):
There isujah.

Speaker 1 (02:18:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm like, oh my god, what is
wrong with you? Oh? Back, I want to back. Amanda
said hi to you Mary and that she loves you.

Speaker 6 (02:18:10):
Oh, thank you, Amanda.

Speaker 5 (02:18:11):
High you know who that is obviously Amanda's crazy life channel.

Speaker 1 (02:18:17):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (02:18:18):
I just wanted to make sure I pointed that all
I think that was. That's amazing. The whole whole idea.
Just track it to a trail. They have at least
a six foot stride full. Yeah, we've measured anywhere from
you know, for the smaller ones, mid fifties and all
the way up to seventy three for a stride, and
that doesn't mean that's even accurate.

Speaker 1 (02:18:36):
Could be bigger than that.

Speaker 6 (02:18:37):
So depending on how fast they're running and right.

Speaker 5 (02:18:41):
How right, what pace they're going at right, But the
biggest stride I've ever seen was seventy three.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
I'm sixty nine inches at.

Speaker 5 (02:18:48):
Four, so you're you know, you're right around you're right
around six feet, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (02:18:53):
And then whenever they leap, they can leap some pretty
good distances fifteen twenty thirty feet.

Speaker 8 (02:19:06):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:19:06):
That's why I tell people, you know, who say, oh,
they go out in the woods or out in the field,
the following their tracks, and their tracks just stop, and
I say, well, they can backtrack, and they will backtrack
on their own trail. But also you have to extend
your search out to thirty forty feet right from that footprint,

(02:19:31):
from that last footprint, because they can leap, they'll stop,
and then they'll leap out just to evade you, because
they know they're being followed.

Speaker 5 (02:19:41):
Right, they know that you're going to track their print
or whatever the case might be. And that's one good
thing that a lot of people don't talk about it.
They always go, oh, there's only one print, tell me
about that. And I've caught them taken a right or left. Yeah,
I've caught We've definitely measured that. We actually have one
with the Volger brothers that had a rocket it and
you could almost see the ball of the toe pivoted

(02:20:02):
on the rock and broke it free from the dirt
as it stepped into tall grass. So those types of
things you can track and figure out if you're very
careful and you know, you know, work together right and
be calm and cool and collected. But to think about
them leaping is something that.

Speaker 1 (02:20:18):
Isn't really talked about a lot, you know what I mean,
It really isn't.

Speaker 5 (02:20:22):
But it's a great possibility. I think it makes sense
that that's the problem. A lot of the world don't
want to make sense no more.

Speaker 1 (02:20:29):
They think we're the crazy. Was what's that that was?

Speaker 6 (02:20:33):
You know?

Speaker 7 (02:20:33):
I you know, I shut I got a deer, Okay,
But what happened was is that I know that.

Speaker 1 (02:20:40):
Was a long time ago. No more.

Speaker 7 (02:20:42):
But I'm just saying about a deer or how a
deer can just is it a full run? How they
can go like straight to like a ninety degree angle,
take a huge leap about approximately maybe like fifteen fifteen
feet jump fifteen foot jump, maybe a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (02:21:02):
You know.

Speaker 7 (02:21:03):
Again, now you've got like, you know, creatures out there
that are like about eight feet tall. They can you know,
they can do anything with that. Yeah, and I believe
that they you know, do cover their tracks, you know,
by grabbing like branches and just kind of you know,
try to hide their prints, knowing that people like that's
got coming out.

Speaker 1 (02:21:21):
And yeah, I'm saying hello.

Speaker 7 (02:21:23):
Sometimes you know there are those prints that we find
that Yeah, you find the one print, where's the rest.

Speaker 6 (02:21:30):
Yeah, they'll brush out their their tracks too, in the
we were talking gravel or or in the dirt. Yeah,
it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:21:39):
Yeah, we just talked about this. We just had a
conversation with a couple of things that you were brought up.

Speaker 6 (02:21:44):
Yeah, mister Duffy made a comment, I'm not a TV star.
I've appeared, but I've on TV, but I'm not hardly
a TV star.

Speaker 7 (02:22:00):
Issue. You're on the Bantom of Richie Be podcast, so
you are a superstar all right?

Speaker 1 (02:22:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (02:22:10):
Yeah, thanks uh and and for some of the other
newbies on here, really appreciate you guys being here.

Speaker 7 (02:22:21):
And in this conversation with Mary.

Speaker 1 (02:22:26):
Oh my god, allright, how to get rid of the
meat head? So anyways, I'm a TV star haha, take that, dummy? Yes, yes,
moving on, goodbye. I don't know what my admins were,
but I got it. Sure, Yeah, thanks, you beat me

(02:22:47):
to it. She is, all right, what a meathead? Listen.

Speaker 5 (02:22:51):
If you've got nothing better than do, then come on
a podcast and say stupid things on a Saturday night.
Perhaps you ought to go look in the mirror and
rethink a whole process.

Speaker 6 (02:23:03):
If that's worse that we hear tonight, then that's good.

Speaker 1 (02:23:06):
We did good. We did good.

Speaker 5 (02:23:09):
So this is what I'm gonna do because I was
checking out some of your your page by the way, okay, okay, have.

Speaker 1 (02:23:18):
You ever been on TV? Though?

Speaker 8 (02:23:20):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:23:20):
What do you want?

Speaker 6 (02:23:22):
I was on Not Finding big Foot TV show?

Speaker 1 (02:23:26):
Did you say not Finding?

Speaker 4 (02:23:30):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (02:23:32):
Wait wait wait wait okay that sounds like something kind
of stuck in your car a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:23:37):
Then, so you're the same way as I am when
it comes to that.

Speaker 6 (02:23:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:23:44):
Yeah, we don't talk those full letters around here.

Speaker 6 (02:23:48):
I was in uh let me see. The episode was
paranormal Squatchativity and I think it was in March twenty fifteen,
and I only appeared. I did not speak. I only

(02:24:09):
appeared in the episode. I was in the town hall,
sitting right next to the microphone, so every time someone
came up to the microphone, there I was. So I
appeared on camera more than anybody else.

Speaker 1 (02:24:25):
Yeah, you know, it's funny because we we we did
a taping for Expedition X, so yeah, not too long ago,
so we haven't heard. I mean, we don't know what's
going to.

Speaker 6 (02:24:35):
Go on with that.

Speaker 1 (02:24:35):
But I wasn't very friendly when the director was trying
to direct me into saying and things that I wasn't
gonna say. Oh, you should say that there was a
giant bipedal Bigfoot that was, you know, chasing you with
a knife and a show far you know what I mean.
And I'm like, I'm not going to say that, dude,
three times to the point where the actor had to
jump in and go he's not saying that.

Speaker 5 (02:24:57):
Yeah, he's a researcher. He's not going to go there.
And that's what I said. I don't give a shit,
I don't care, go away, I'm good. I was reluctant
to even be here. I thought it would be you know,
fun and exciting for my friends. But I'm not going
to change my life. This is my life, this is
my passion and my life, and I'm not going to
do a few because you've got a camera in front.

Speaker 1 (02:25:17):
Of me and go yay, you know what I mean?
There we go, I got I got more trolls in here. Richie.
You're a fragile little baby.

Speaker 5 (02:25:24):
If you couldn't handle me talking in the four dude,
what are you talking about? I don't have an ego, sir.
You obviously have not watched my show. If you're going
to be rude to my guests, I don't care what
your name is, then you need to beat feet. And
I don't care who you are or where you're from
or whatever. Have a good day and keep climbing. Friend,

(02:25:45):
Oh that was weird. He got lost.

Speaker 1 (02:25:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:25:48):
If he thinks that this is ego, he's ego and
power and money hungry people out there in this field.
It's sad.

Speaker 1 (02:26:05):
Yep, it sounds like to me, Mary, it sounds like
another It's just.

Speaker 5 (02:26:10):
It could be ugly out there, right, And I tell
everybody all the time, I'm broke, man, I'm not doing
this to make money. I'm trying to find out what
the hell happened to me in my backyard.

Speaker 4 (02:26:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:26:20):
Really, it's that's all I'm trying to do.

Speaker 6 (02:26:22):
You're not going to get rich.

Speaker 1 (02:26:23):
There's no rich here. And if I'm going to try
to pick anything, it's not going to be big Foot. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:26:27):
Between the gear, you know, you're all your electronics and
the travel and everything else. You're in the hole.

Speaker 1 (02:26:35):
Oh it's so funny. And they act like I like,
I like, I want, you know, or fame or something.
I love that one.

Speaker 5 (02:26:41):
You want fame, so you come on my podcast and
poop on my head and now I'm famous? Like, seriously,
you think I want to deal with that. I got
seven kids, dude, I'm busy. I ain't got time for
your crap, you know what I mean, Like like go away,
you know, yeah, louse my check.

Speaker 6 (02:26:56):
If I wanted to be on some of the very
large podcast I could have been, I turned them down
right because I don't want to have I don't want
to have the name. I don't want to be out there.
I turned down ninety percent of the invitations that I get.

Speaker 5 (02:27:17):
Yeah, and I'm glad you didn't turn this one down
because Wojo is magical.

Speaker 6 (02:27:22):
Well you must have said something that struck me just
the right way or hit me right at the right time,
because yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:27:29):
I love it. I know, I seriously love this interview.
And I am way over and I do got to
go help with the children, so you know, because I.

Speaker 5 (02:27:37):
Don't have a butler because I'm poor, shut up, and
I get a snoring dog over here. I mean, so
you always have a dog every time that snoring dog
shows up on like Bigfoot.

Speaker 6 (02:27:51):
Yeah, and my dog's going to push me off the chair.

Speaker 1 (02:27:55):
Yeah, well she's amazing. So check this out, everybody pets
Evania Bigfoot Project. I see you in here, twenty.

Speaker 5 (02:28:01):
Thous and followers, members or however you say. I love
this is the thing that stuck out the most. And
if you're part of my show and part of the
banter with Richie B. Crewe and family, respect, help share knowledge, learn,
learn more, and have fun. I think you've heard that phrase,
maybe not verbatim, but you get the picture here, folks.

(02:28:24):
This is why I'm so excited here. This is exactly
how we think around here. That other nonsense that we
just saw that that is not how we do things.

Speaker 1 (02:28:34):
So what is all that. Oh, that's my Facebook.

Speaker 5 (02:28:38):
So I was looking at you picture and it went
off and all my family showed up, like the hell
are you doing here?

Speaker 1 (02:28:45):
Get out of here? I thought I was on Mary's page.
Where's Mary's page? I want to see it. Oh, there
it is. This is the homepage and you're so.

Speaker 6 (02:28:56):
It's twenty dollars plus five dollars ship and get on
my group on Facebook to order. That's really about the
best way to contact me. Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project.

Speaker 8 (02:29:11):
I'm the founder, Yes you are.

Speaker 5 (02:29:15):
She's the founder of this very big project and page.
I think it's amazing. An author as well, not an actor,
not a TV star, but appeared in the show one
one episode more than anybody. Remember that I just told
off a director and probably be on any show.

Speaker 1 (02:29:35):
I was nice.

Speaker 5 (02:29:36):
I just was like, no, not doing it. But anyways,
I just think this has been an amazing show. We
got to know you personally, and I thank you again
for that, for sharing that.

Speaker 1 (02:29:44):
I know how it can be. Maybe that's why we're.

Speaker 8 (02:29:47):
Here together tonight, so I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (02:29:51):
Maybe there's two little friends up there talking going, hey, dude,
I have an idea. So I think that'd be pretty amazing.
So this has been pretty epic interview for me. Absolutely
the exact I think the epitome of what I wanted
to do this month to honor my mother who I
lost in August to Alzheimer's in dementia, dementia, and this

(02:30:14):
has been very therapeutic for me, and I'm looking forward
to seeing and hearing from you again and hopefully maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:30:21):
We get to work together.

Speaker 8 (02:30:23):
I hope, so.

Speaker 5 (02:30:24):
I think that would be amazing because I got to
tell you something. It's totally different when you're out in
those woods and you're being a researcher, and it's awesome
because we've gotten so close and made so many friends.
I want to thank you for being here tonight. It
was an absolute honor and pleasure. I want to send
kudos to my friend Wojo and co host from finding you.

Speaker 1 (02:30:46):
And convincing you, yes, you are one of the seven percent. Well,
if you watch Mary's podcast, Monkey Wrench, Yes, I'll tell
you she's got amazing guests on that, and I'll tell
you and all her and all the followers on there
are just like really really knowledgeable, just like our group PM, Like.

Speaker 6 (02:31:09):
Yeah they are. Yes, My podcast is on every Wednesday
evening seven thirty Eastern Standard time, and it's through the
Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project channel. You channel, but I call it
the podcast is the Monkey Wench w e n c A.

Speaker 1 (02:31:31):
Yes, not Wrench.

Speaker 6 (02:31:32):
I knew that Wench podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:31:35):
Great, now you dropped a few percentages. Damn, what night
and what night and what time? Sorry?

Speaker 5 (02:31:46):
I want to cut you off. I didn't want to
stay on that subject. What night and what time? Say
it again?

Speaker 6 (02:31:49):
Wednesday, seven thirty pm Eastern Standard time.

Speaker 1 (02:31:54):
Monkey Wench? Yes, she named it after Wojo. So tune
in Wednesday seven thirty Easter time to the Monkey Wench
on YouTube.

Speaker 5 (02:32:08):
And it's the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project YouTube channel. Yes, so
I'm gonna make sure we're following each other and I'm
liking him. Subscribe it.

Speaker 1 (02:32:17):
I think I am already, but if you're not, please
get over there, like and subscribe support that podcast. Here's
some more amazing stories from Mary.

Speaker 5 (02:32:26):
Go over and become a member of the Facebook page
as well that I shared with you and all my
family members I apparently shared with you. You were just
an absolute pleasure, Ron, Thank you for that. Everybody on
the side. You guys are all amazing. I had an
amazing time, and this is what I'm talking about. Mary
right here has been therapeutic for all those precious things

(02:32:48):
in life. This is therapy, and sitting with you was
absolutely want of the scent therapeutic tonight. Thank you and spiritual.
I really, I really mean that with all my lot.
Thank you, and I just want to do this and
the show like this. Obviously, follow me on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook,
all banter, Richie B like it, subscribe to the YouTube channel,
hit the notified button because guess what, folks, we have

(02:33:10):
not been out to the gift and Chair in a
little while. But tomorrow at three pm Eastern time, the Wojo,
myself and perhaps a few guests you don't know about
yet are coming out live on YouTube tomorrow on a
Sunday afternoon at three pm to do go back into
our research area that we miss so much.

Speaker 1 (02:33:29):
And need so greatly.

Speaker 5 (02:33:30):
So please join us live on YouTube tomorrow, like a
subscribe to the YouTube channel. I want to say, I
love you, baby Jack, I love you Mama. Thank you
so much, Wojo. I want you to take us out
of here all.

Speaker 7 (02:33:42):
Right, Richard, Hey, thank you all for being on here
into your folks, we love you, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:33:48):
Bye.

Speaker 7 (02:33:48):
We get some cool merch. By the merch, and by
the way, we are home. Oh boom, let's go see
you guys again.

Speaker 1 (02:33:59):
I'm Mary

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