S03E18 Brooke Moreland: Skunk Ape of the Florida Everglades

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Good morning, Welcome to pant with Richie BE.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Live somewhere beyond the beaten path, beyond the whispers in
the woods and the stories around the fire lurks one
of the greatest mysteries of our time, Bigfoot. For decades,
legends have echoed through the forests, footprints left behind, sightings

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that defy logic, and questions that demand answers. But this
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maybe be the one who finds the truth hiding in
the trees.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I love you, baby Jackson. I want you guys to
keep climbing. I love your mama, or just gonna get
us out of here, because that's what he does.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yes, let's go.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Good morning. Welcome to Banter with Richie Bee Live.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
The yep, there was something going on here.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Behind us after.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
The trees were fucking moving everywhere.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, bro goosebumps, mad at you with me?

Speaker 4 (02:42):
We looked this way. It was not like this.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Welcome to Banter with Richie Bee.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Yo, what's up everybody? Oh yeah, that's righty back, Yeah
we sh.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I'm live. Look at that. Say hioe.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Yo, what's up everybody? And walk on the band to
a Richie Be Live. That's right, Jim, Hey, how's everybody
doing tonight? I am fired up? I am so fired up.
We are continuing the my Mama in May month with
another brilliant lady researcher.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
This particular lady researcher is in Florida, and we all
know what's down there.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
If you're in the Bigfoot, it is the probably the
cousin of Bigfoot. I'll just say, the cousin of Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Skunkcape. I love the Skunk Cape.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
Stories is a great old video of the skunk Cape,
which I think is pretty genuine.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
That's just me but but very brave, very bra I
found out she doesn't wear snake boots. That's weird. Oh,
I gotta tell you, they got some designer snake boots.
I want to wear snake boots when I'm up here,
you know what I mean. But think about it, Florida, Florida,
Florida is like pretty much you know, it's Australia, let's
face it. But so check it out. Man, listen up.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
We are gonna have war Joe come in and we're
gonna go We're gonna do a little advertiseing, a little Hello,
a little solam Obama ding dong, and then we are
gonna bring the one the only Brooke Moulin in from
Doc Florida podcast too. By the way, the girl does
all kinds of things.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Man. So when I when we watch like.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
People like Wojo has picked a few guests, and I've
picked a few guests, and you watch them and you
just sometimes you kind of get that connection where you're like,
oh that's pretty cool. Oh that's different. Oh I didn't
think of that. Oh you do that too, And that's
kind of the situation here. So I was super pumped
to have her here, and I'm glad she's here tonight,
So let's get the show started. Let's bring in our

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co host so we can high hi to everybody on
the side the side. All right, sorry, I've had like
eighty two rockstars my bad. Let me get Waldja here,
maybe eighty three, one for each kid on.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh there he is.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Hey, Happy Saturday. Everybody. Welcome to the Home of the Boat.
Very excited today, rich.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
You know I am. I am as well.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
You know I have a big birthday party I'm getting
ready for for my two year old. Yes, the old
guy's got a two year old and whatever. Don't want
to hear it. Talk to God anyways. So I got
the bouncy house outside, which is one of the people
I'm an advertised for, by the way, because they were
absolutely kick cast to me and very grateful for him.
And so it's people coming. So you know what happens

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when people are coming. Even if you're the neatest personal world,
there's always something to do, right And I live in
and basically an amusement park is what I live in.
I live in an amusement park. There's people everywhere, you
know what I mean. Only one dog that's good. He's
only like that big and real hair, small poops.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
It's all I asked for all that stuff part of me,
but all that stuff so.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
A trade, No zero chance in that happened. Well, I'm
allergic to dog here, so that's one of the things
that you know. And it stinks because I had a
dog I used to love and I'd be like pett.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
And you're like, k a good girl, Bady, good girl.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
I feel like a whimp, but it is what it is.
I just don't want to get all the time, you know.
So anyway, so you got lots to do. I've been
working hot around the house, working hot down the in
the basement area, which is really a full basement with
pool table and video game areas and bedrooms and living
rooms in a gym and.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Podcast studio so it has all this stuff. So I
have lots to do.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Enough about me, Let's talk about me, all right.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
So check it out, man, Let's say hi to everybody
on the side and then we'll do some advertising because
they're all saying how to each other, so we know
what happens when this happens.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
All the way back.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Oh, it's chaos.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
I love them all, though there's not there's not one here.
I don't love so go back to the top is fight?
It was first it was g G Ghost Girls in
the house.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Ghost Girl?

Speaker 6 (07:01):
And then Ron was a close second. By the way,
we have not seen Ron. He's been off and on
a little bit lately. I hope everything's well down there
in sunny Florida. My boy motting up in New Hampshire.
He's got a lot of business going on up there
with the Sasquatches.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Let's see Henry's here. What's up?

Speaker 6 (07:17):
Henry Bigfoot research at BFR. That's what that means. Everybody's wondering, MK, Ultra,
what's up? MK? I should have a cool name like that,
Richie b Ultra MK.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I think like high. I sound like I'm high octane
if I'm like.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
That, you know, or maybe like Richie like but not
so late.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Oh yeah, wow?

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Oh look who's here? Legendary, the one, the only for Maine.
Jane Tewksberry's in the house and she's a guest speaker
at a few different places. We're gonna see her a
couple of times this summer. Bro, I'm so excited. I'm
gonna tell you where you could hear Jean speaks. Let's see, hello,
this is Ron again. Hello everyone else. I'm getting tired

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of saying hello everyone.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
Yeah, Ron's back all right. Let me see. I can't
stand this. They give you this little thing the slide
with It's so stupid.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Uh but up up uh bex the mk Damian Smith,
what's up? Welcome from Scotland, Edinburgh, Scottland, all the servicemen
and women their families the weekend. We appreciate you all absolutely,
thank you.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
A lot of my brothers and sisters I lost absolutely yeah,
I love them all.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
And Matthew Bean is one of them.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
He's right from the area and Pembroke and I played
ball with him, used to mow my lawn.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
He's a good dude.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
And we lost him in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Irack. That's a mess. But love you, brother. So in
a bunch of others. Bigfoot World, Cryptids, the Paranormal Central Florida,
Good Evening.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
That is a lot to say, the names. It's the
Paranormal Central Florida, Good Evening. Uh, Denny Denny is here,
Denny Forrest Monsters.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
That's that's nice and simple, like monster Forest Monsters. That's right.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
Gim all right, we're only brooked sitting too long because
you know, she's a very busy person.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
So Saturday night young ladies. Yeah, but it's Saturdays.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
She's a young lady.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
You want to hang out with us too old?

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Yeah, you know, like I mean, even if you are
talking skunkcake, skuncake, skuncake, no, min, I'm not talking about.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Shut up. Yeah. So check us on a Dark Realm TV.
We are on every Roku television, every Amazon fire stick
all over the world. Get your subscription from them please.
I think it's like four a month and you get
all kinds of extras.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
This summer, we will be.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
Doing an exclusive with them. I am super pumped about that.
I want they're gonna come up. We're gonna do something
live and happen. And they do have a lot of
our live investigation as well that we've been posting. I
think it's every Tuesday night we're on over there.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
So I asked them for a specific time to make
it like a TV show type thing. So make sure
you check them out.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Carble Mounted Critter Festival is June seventh, that's coming up.
It's like two weeks away, dude. Oh my god, it's
two weeks away. I gotta get ready. I gotta pack
my snake boots, my Versace snake boots, my guccis, and
I seeing my guccies, my Gucci crocs.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Are you kidding? Uh? Yeah, right, just give me some crocs.
I'm out.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
So that's duoge seventh and Russell, Massachusetts, out west.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Stop yelling tonight? Well do you're so mad? I right?

Speaker 6 (10:44):
So yeah, So we will be there as guest speakers.
We're gonna roam around and meet people.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
If you can.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
Again I've said it all the time, please go over
to the Facebook and hit the follow Please please please
hit the fallout the Carble Mounted Criti Festival facebook page.
As many followers, the better. The more names you get.
You worked at Algorithm, You help the people out that
cause all that any money made on that goes to
wilderness pro programs for youth. I mean that's if you're

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into this, what we do, this is exactly why you
probably should be doing it, really, and this is what
these guys are doing. So they're trying to get these
programs funded and help these kids get away from the
screen and get their butts outside. So Carbon Mounted Critifest
June seventh, Russell, Massachusetts and also Chime and Fair Farm.
Wojo and myself are the mcs of that. We will

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be hosting that event up in Candy in New Hampshire
on the twenty first and twenty second of June.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
We will be all over.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
We have guest speakers, We'll have contests for call, you know,
the old calling contests. I'm gonna mix something in there.
I'm gonna go for like a whoop contest, something different,
right and also real quick before I get broke up here,
I want to.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
I want to go overs. I want anybody that's local
or you know, in the air.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
I don't know exactly how far they go, but they
have all different types of location. Busy Beach Jumpers located
at two ten Ssex Street, Whitman, Massachusetts. The phone number
seven eight one four four seven eighty three hundred Busy
Bee Jumpers. They hooked me up. They came in, they
set up my jumper. So fast, so cool, so clean,
so happy, boom bang done. Price was right awesome. Check

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out my boy Mickey mattel over there and make sure
that you get your jumper from them.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Guys.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
Busy Bee jumpers seven eight one four four seven eighty
three hundred. You tell them Richie B sent you, and
they'll probably chode you more. All right, you're welcome also
forty second brew in Kingston, Massachusetts, seventy seven Summer Street.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Get over there and have yourself a I think it's
like a big foot hill or something.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
Right, Yeah, these guys are already starting off with their stuff, man,
so we gotta hurry up and get a guest in here.
We're gonna get so far behind on these comments because
you know what Damian smissing here. Stern stuff up with
his brilliance. And I saw when Florida said something.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I want to go beat. But let's get Brooke Morland
in here. Please? Is that alright with you?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Joe absolutely bring her in.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
And everybody noticed the natural radio voice. I'm very jealous,
but I'll get over it.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
She is. Go ahead, Hello.

Speaker 7 (13:13):
Brooke, Hello, how's it going?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah? Yeah, I'm a child, sorry, he a bit of
a kid. How are you? Are you okay with all
this nonsense? I I spew you good? You okay?

Speaker 7 (13:25):
I guess I'll have to be We're here, and I
just kidding.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
No, No, you can just click on.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
Sorry, I'm getting a call.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
No hate that one.

Speaker 8 (13:39):
No goodness, No, I'm very excited to be here. Thank
you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh no, it's Arono. I'm super pumped to have you.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
And like I said, I was, we were talking a
little bit in the back. I don't do I don't
do deep research on my guests. I love to add lib.
I love the organic kind of direction the interview can
take the conversation. It's really not an interview. We're all
going to have an interview here, right, and it's just
so organic. But some of the things you were doing
down in Florida were absolutely cool. For one, the whole dynamic.

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You're a younger lady. You're out in the woods, you're out,
got an eat bike.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I do, got a knee bike.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
You got to eat bike going no snake boots. She's
in a swamp and you're looking for a skunky and
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
This girl nuts, Like is he crazy? So I had
to go like looking around someone.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
Then I found out you had a podcast, right, I
believe you record and then and then you upload and
do that, right yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Then you do like digital you know, so he involves
digital creation.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
Right yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Got digital creation as well. So then I'm going, wow,
this is cool. So you got a lot of different dynamics.
And then what do I see last week on Facebook?

Speaker 7 (14:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Oh, I'm got all right this this this might be
a little bit of a of a curve ball.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
And I apologize.

Speaker 7 (14:56):
You sing oh I do you?

Speaker 6 (14:59):
You sing yeah? And you sing well. I was like,
all right, wait is that the that's the podcast? Skit
Skunk Cape, Electric Ride and No Snake Boot Swamp right right, and.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Al a sudden, you just sang this song and I'm like,
and it had so much.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
Meaning and had meaning to it. I thought it was
beautiful meaning. And I was just like, all right.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
I'm done. I don't even know what to do now.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
I just let you run my show. I'm gonna sit
back here and just do nothing. Anyways, I was very
very impressed and very honored. We're very honored to have
you here. So and and you know, it's a it's
a steep contrast to having Wojo here, you know what
I mean? Yea, Wojo Wojo were snake boots. We don't
have like snakes, you know what I mean. He goes

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out in a forest, he won't go near a swamp.
He pedals, he doesn't have any bike. He can't sing right,
you can't write wojo.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, I'm terrible.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
I didn't say that, you said it. I just to
check out one thing someone said over. Oh I got
the issue a fine for the length of that name.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Oh, MK says he gotta.

Speaker 6 (16:08):
He got to issue a five for the length of
the name Bigfoot, World, crypt and Central Southwest Paranormal Florida
Research Teams.

Speaker 8 (16:14):
Hey, so we might be done, but I'm actually affiliated
with that group.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
I was waiting for this because when I saw it,
we don't have a lot of Central Florida folks hanging
around these pots, you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (16:28):
Yeah, I was gonna say, hey, don't dog on the
don't dog on our team here.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
No, I listen, listen, I love it. I love it. Well,
that's the beauty of doing this, right.

Speaker 8 (16:38):
Yeah. And it's like, like she said, you got to
cover it all because a lot of times Bigfoot and
the paranormal do blur and the lines cross sometimes, so
you got to get it all in there.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah. That's absolutely a great point.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
And and and you see a lot of that right
because I kind of started out like someone told me
I had a niche when I started, right, or a
niche depends on what from me and my executive producer
Bobby Leagi about this all the time. She says it's
a niche, and in her way she's correct, but I'm,
you know, from the Boston area, so we make up
our own words.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
It's a niche. So anyways, but I but I was
in the paranormal.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
I'm into the UFOs, I'm into everything, you know, But
it just so happens. I have so much activity with
Sasquatch that I've just been Sasquatch, and I'm okay with that.
I'm fine with as long as we're having fun. That's
all I care about. Eric Vogel's here. By the way,
Eric Vogels here, It was Tim here. I don't know
if I missed Tim Animals here.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, Tim, Tim's in here.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
Oh hi Tim, Tim and Eric Vogel from the Carbon
Mounted Credit Festival. So let's just get rolling here, okay.
Anybody on the side, you got questions.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I want to I want to see all that conversation
flying up and down, guys. I want you to have fun.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
I want to enjoy yourselves and ask broke a bunch
of great questions and have just have fun or just
listen or whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Man, this is an.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
Absolutely interactive podcast, So if you guys want to jump
in and ask some questions, you surely can.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
All right, what is it? What's that? Is? Dehudier? Yet?
So how do you get started with all that stuff
with bigfooting?

Speaker 7 (18:15):
How did I get into that?

Speaker 1 (18:16):
You know?

Speaker 6 (18:17):
Yeah, like how do you how do you get up
one day and you're like, look for bigfoot?

Speaker 8 (18:22):
That's a good question. It was a slippery slope. I'll
tell anybody. I think, like we can all agree because
we're all here that bigfoot is not something I think
people go into like halfway. I feel like people get
involved with it and then it becomes almost like an
obsession almost, And I think that's.

Speaker 7 (18:40):
What happened with me.

Speaker 8 (18:41):
I've always been really into mysteries unsolved and just all
the strange and weird things that this world has to offer,
and so I was already I think predisposed in that sense.
And I've always loved outdoors and hiking. And I think
my nanny, she had a sighting here in Florida back
in the seventies. So you have that like trifecta that

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was there. And then, like I said, I already loved
going outdoors, so it was kind of just bridging the
gap between something I already loved doing, but just doing
it with like more focus and intention, and I just
got into it. I'm like, you know, I was like
listening to podcasts and different things and thinking about my
nanny's story, and I'm that kind of a person. I
want to be boots on the ground. I want to

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figure it out for myself. I wanted to have a
sighting so I could see it. And even though I
already believed, I think we all want that class a
to say, Okay, I've seen this thing myself and it's undeniable.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
So that's kind of how it all happened.

Speaker 8 (19:40):
And then I got to go to my first Bigfoot conference,
which I recommend anybody to do. We have it every
year here in Florida in O'calla, and I went the
first time and there was a dinner beforehand, so I
got to meet some great people. I meet some connections,
and then from there it just snowballed into the awesomeness

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that it is today. And now I'm on almost every weekend,
and yeah, here we are.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
No, it's snowballs, like crazy, don't it? Because I just
I called Bobby Lee one day and everybody kind of
knows my story.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
You know.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
I had a I needed some passion to get up
off the mat, so to speak, and I said, I
want to start a podcast and she was like, oh
my god, I've been waiting for this call.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
You're perfect for this, you know.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
And next you know, I had green screens, computers and
all this stuff in there, and I'm like, what that's
going on? And I'm setting up, you know, going up,
squatching and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
And it does.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
It's snowballs, And I think that's a great way to
put it in this particular research field. But when you
said your grandmother nanny or yeah, had had a sighting
in the seventies, she did. So you're let me try
to draw a picture here if you don't mind. So

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how do you hear from nanny or do you hear
from your parents? Or do you hear through the grapevine
that nanny saw us? Like were you when you first
heard that first of all?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh god, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (21:04):
I was probably I was probably younger, But it was
something that we talked about you know, periodically, you know,
through life, and it was from her.

Speaker 7 (21:13):
Yeah, she was very casual with it.

Speaker 8 (21:15):
We would sit and play Mexican Train dominoes on her
back porch and she'd be smoking her sick and just
we were just have the best time. She was from
Virginia and she drove this like Lincoln and she was
just all around badass. She kept like darts in the
trunk and she was just like the coolest lady that
I ever knew. She was awesome, and she actually passed

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away this January. Yeah, and even in her old age,
like we would talk about it and she like when
we were talking pre show about what got you into
it in your sighting and you're like, oh, it's taking
me back there, the same thing would happen to her
with the PTSD of the event, and yeah, she definitely

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she was aired by it. It freaked her out and
it would you could see just like the look on
her face change when she started talking about it.

Speaker 6 (22:06):
Yeah, so she kind of gets lit up like like
like kind of like I was talking in the back
room and you kind.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Of get all like buy it up.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
Yeah, Yeah, she was freaked out. I think she was
scared more than anything really.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, so it startled.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
Now was that the only sighting. It never came back,
She never saw it again. Was she curious to go
out and look for herself. No, I know she was scared,
but you know, I'm scared too, But it drew me
to it, you.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Know, right right.

Speaker 8 (22:29):
No, she never went out searching for it. And what
happened to her is she was a paper delivery driver.
So when you're delivering newspapers, you have to be out
really super early in the morning, and so she started
parking her truck really close to the house because in
the community, again this is fresh development, all of the
logs that had been stacked up, they would come out

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and they'd be thrown around like matches in the morning,
and everyone would be on edge, like weird things like
that were happening, and it was like they everyone was
already on edge in the community. So she said that
she started parking the truck closer because they didn't know
what was out there doing this. And one morning, sure enough,
she gets in the truck and she goes off and
this thing chases her, and she said it ran up

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to like forty five miles an hour, and she recalls
this just awful stench and odor that it had, and
it just really freaked out. She was really scared because
it's like at that point, you know, you're trying to
drive away and you're.

Speaker 7 (23:24):
Still not safe. This thing is keeping pace.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
And so yeah, wow, that's quite a story, right right.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Well, Joe, Yeah, that's pretty frightening me. He has stories
around the country people being chased up to like forty
five miles per hour. I mean, yeah, all shapes and sizes,
but I don't care someone like running after you at
that speed. I'd be like, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, no, that that's crazy. And I did well.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
I loved well.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
I love that story, and I love how it's kind
of become your story in a sense, right, Like you've
taken in that, you've taken it in her honor and
and kind of made it your own and you share
it right.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Let me. I don't usually jump into questions too early,
but I'm going to real quick if you don't mind,
real quick.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
And son, no disrespect made with the names. It's just
the mainstream too, so people know what you're talking about.
So no disrespect made to your people, by the way, brother,
So for me, the difference between the skunk skunk cape,
So because Damian asked there earlier and Sasquatch himself. I
think it's shared geographical because of food sauce and things

(24:39):
like that. Like I have a patch of skunk cabbage
in my backyard and those things get picked and they
end up spawning twice in a year. They're only supposed
to be once, So I know something's taking them in.
Isn't a little deer max, you know what I mean.
I've watched them for years happen. So I think that
the skunkcake it's itself. The reason why I bring that
up is the food sources are different, and they're a

(25:01):
little bit more stealthy, a little more skinny, a little
more ripped.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
We're the ones that you see in the northeast.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
Ohio or whatever, the big burley type dudes that walk
around you know which way to the beach type of thing,
and you know, stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
I mean, would you agree that that would be the difference.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Yeah, No, I believe so.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
And I think some of the coloring is different too,
So I did see in the comments that they were
talking about like.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
The amber color that orangish color.

Speaker 8 (25:27):
I think that the skun capes are a little bit
smaller than what's reported in other areas for sure. And
then personally, and this is a personal opinion, I don't
think that there is as aggressive as they are in
some other regions. I think that they're mostly benign here.
Not to say that somebody maybe if they were too

(25:48):
close to a family unit or something like that, couldn't
experience some aggression, But I think that they are a
little bit more chill here, and they're a little smaller
than what you're hearing reported in other places like Ohio
or the Pacific Northwest, where they're a lot larger. Sometimes
they're black or gray and pretty big. Here there, they're
around that, you know, six to eight feet range, and

(26:10):
not quite as tall as some of the.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
Other reports throughout the country.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Interesting.

Speaker 8 (26:15):
Yeah, if you talk to some people too, some people
will say that the feet are a little different, that
they have four toes or something like that. So some
people heard that, Yeah, I've heard about tracks like that here.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
Yeah, I heard they're a lot more slender and the
heils a lot more slender. For instance, Like here, we've
had we deal with like some of the hills are
like seven and a half inches wide the hill And yeah,
look one seven and a quarter I think it was,
and then the top was like eight something and that
was the seventeen and a half to eighteen inch one

(26:50):
we have. That's daddy, and then we have a sixteen
but whatever. But the heels I actually have, it's not
in here to my I got a show to do.
But in my evidence case, we have one. We walked
up on it in an area where we believe they
take shelter once in a while.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
We call them the hots. And there was a hail
right in Pete Moss.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
So I did it you have? Do you use a
scanner app at all? By the way, And I use scannerverse,
so I use scanner verse on it. And it's an
amazing hail. But that one's over seven inches wide. And
that's a big dude, because my my hail in uh,
when I'm wearing my boots are three and a quarter
and I'm in eleven and a half. So I don't
have I don't have small feet, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
So you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
So, uh, it's definitely interesting the characteristics of them, you
know what I mean. And and by the way, I
do want to get back to Nanny a little bit.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm not telling her yet.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
Okay the line man.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
But no, I just I fight it so intriguing him
when I talk to people.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
That's why I love the organic pots of the interviews,
because I didn't have no clue about that. It's not
like it's placid all over your stuff, you know. And
I just think it's such a great dynamic of it.
And I'm here in a sense where I carry on
the inspiration. I lost the son, we lost the sun
at birth and a couple of years back, baby Jack,
and that's kind of my young man.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Why is that not in the picture. Someone messed with
my camera. I'm telling you, whoa Joe, dude.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
I you know, I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, you feel my pit? What's you drinking?

Speaker 7 (28:22):
It's sweet tea?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Of course, it's sweet tea. Why wouldn't it be sweet tea.
I had a place in North Carolina for seven years.
That's all I drank was sweet tea. You're kidding me.

Speaker 7 (28:31):
It's it's not just any sweet tea. It's public's diet
sweet tea.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
So oh it's specific. Yeah, no teeter or nothing like
that has to be publics.

Speaker 7 (28:42):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Oh man, do you guys have sheets down in Florida.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
No, we do not terrible.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
That's terrible. Sheets is my absolute favorite place.

Speaker 7 (28:53):
We've got wa wahs.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Oh wah wahs are everywhere, right.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
Do you think that's for the drunk people at two
am to come in and to make that sound?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
They should play a real of that, because you know
they got them.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
They walk up to that thing and they're all hammed,
like wawa you know me like everybody just yelling that
stupid thing out, you know what I mean, like act
like fools, you know, buying a bunch of junk. You
know it has to else would they have that name?
It makes no sense if everybody knows the history of
that name. Please get back to me.

Speaker 8 (29:21):
I think it's actually about the goose, the geese. It's
their logo, so like I think it's like the sound
that the goose bake.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Serious right now?

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah, it's freaking awesome.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
I mean, is that a theory that you made up?
Or is this something that could be?

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Can we research it?

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Can we research where the name wa wah came?

Speaker 7 (29:44):
Fye?

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Let us know, I know none of my producers a
hand anite. I don't see Sam anywhere. Bobby Lee's stuck
on a beach somewhere in a subaru.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
It's wah wah.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
I never heard a goose, geese, gospeling, whatever you want
to call them. Make that noise. Hi, Bristol, Hi, how
are you man?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
So?

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah? So I just got thrown off of that. That's
not even right.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
That's an easy one too. How am myself thrown off
by that?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
What you have been to a waa uh? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Once?

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Really?

Speaker 6 (30:20):
Was it drunk at two in the morning yelling wahah
uh no?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
No, no, no interesting?

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Actually I do have friends that live in Okalla. Is
Mojo still around Mojo's Bar and grill?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (30:36):
I don't know, there's.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Got other things to do. You think she goes out
hanging out at a bar and grill.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Know, I've got a knee bike and she's riding.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Around swamps looking for a stonecap bro.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
And when you're not doing that, she's creating things digitally,
running a podcast.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
And singing and hanging out at wah wah.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
In the public for the specialty. I mean, come on, guy,
I think.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
It still exists.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Where is it?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
What did you see that?

Speaker 7 (31:08):
A bigfoot world?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
She said, yes, oh you oh, you throughout? Oh you see.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
She's dropping names.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
That's not fair.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
So she Bigfoot World says, oh I live in Ocala
national o'calla National Forests. All right, so here we go.
Thank you for bringing that up. Big Foot World kryptis
Central Florida. I'm gonna do that like thirty times tonight.
Bigfoot World cryptis. All right, We're gonna have a contest
at the end of the show saying five times in
a row without messing up, and you win. H banter,

(31:39):
richie be sock just the left one.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
God, that's a great contest.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I think.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
So.

Speaker 6 (31:49):
So is that is that the area you go out
and do you go out to the national forest or
you go to swamps?

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Like, is there a specific research area that you have?
Let's put it that way.

Speaker 7 (31:58):
Okay, So there is, and you don't have to be
too specific. I was gonna say, I don't mean to
disappoint anyone.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
No no, no, no, no, no no no no no.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
You know what I mean, what research is.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
We can say this because we already know what goes
without saying but area, So I will.

Speaker 8 (32:12):
Say, I do investigate in Okalla. So that's a huge place.
So that really you can't that's fine. We'll fine figure
anything out. There because it's so huge. But there are
other places that I research that are a little bit
closer to where I'm at. That is kind of like
my main research area. I try to get up to
Okala and see my friends up there at least once
a month, and we've got a trip coming up. But

(32:34):
we we do do research up there. But I go
all over Florida too. I've been up to the Panhandle
and there's just so many good places here, Like that's
one of the best parts about Florida is that not
only do we have a lot of bigfoot activity, there's
paranormal activity, and Florida's just got so many great places
to choose from.

Speaker 7 (32:54):
We're really lucky.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Here, No, it does. And I lived in Lakeland for
years when it was actually kind of nice.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
But I lived like a golf course down there or something.
I don't know, but it was interesting, but I wasn't
so much into this. It was more my paranormal days.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
And some of the oldest abandoned run down bend there
Forever place is just extra creepy there.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I don't know what it is. I don't know. I
think it's I'm gonna throw something out there.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
My theory was because Florida's so saturated with water, it
had more electricity, so because it's a conductor. So I
always say to people, man, you just get there's something
different about Florida at night, for one, which would lead
to the theory that could be possibly true because it's moist.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
And it was just crazy.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
I went into a place and I've never ever left
a place where I was like, all right, I gotta
got out of here.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I was always like, something comes up to me. I'd
be like, Okay, how you doing. My name's rich Man,
Nice to meet you, you know what I mean. They're like, Oh,
I'm a dead demon. I'm gonna step up you with
a knife. I'm like, that's where you are, you know
what I mean. But this one particular place, I can't
remember where it was. It was just kind of a
fly by night type of thing. I went in there.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
I had maybe p recorder when they're playing and did
a live feedback, and they knew my name and it
was very shop, very like, and I just had that
fight a flight kicking.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Moto really Oto really right right.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
At the peak of my story, you get buying, buying,
buying on you.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
He's on his phone.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
I love the guy.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
But anyways, go ahead, Jo we Jo. You never told
me you ever go ghost.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Hunting before I had to text me love you too.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
No, have you ever gone ghost hunting? Settle Down? Have
you ever gone ghost hunting? Your brothers do?

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yes, yes, my brother's yeah. They did a lot of
ghosts something now their paranormal investigators, Oh my god, back
in early nineties, and some of them. Like the pictures
that they bring, it's just like wild and actually, what
the was it Saint Augustine in the pictures in the
I think he showed you a couple of pictures here

(35:01):
and outside that was at the church in the playground area,
and you can can see the figure right there. Pretty
wild stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Pretty wild stuff. For what are you going to say?

Speaker 8 (35:12):
No, I think that Florida, to your point of the
water being a conductor. I also think we're on limestone,
and that's a huge thing in the metaphysical.

Speaker 7 (35:21):
Realm as well.

Speaker 8 (35:24):
So I think that there's just the perfect storm here
and much of Florida is on a lay line, and
we have those energy vortexts and all that fun stuff here.
I mean, we have Coral Castle, Cassadaga, all built with
the idea of the lay lines and Earth's energy in mind.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, yeah, no, you're right, And a lot of the buildings,
like you said, were built with that, with stuff like
that also, and not.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
Only that, Florida has a lot of history. You think
that you have to have history of the United States.
You got to come to the Northeast because it was
the first ones. Blah blah blah. I got news for you, folks.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
There was a lot more things discovered besides that hebble
over in Plymouth. That's so disappointing.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
Saint Augustine is the worlds are not the world.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Excuse me, our world.

Speaker 8 (36:08):
Yeah, the new World, oldest city, the oldest city here
in America.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
And people don't realize that because you associated with new
buildings and developments and people.

Speaker 8 (36:17):
And yeah, but you're right though, I know everyone's mind
goes to Plymouth and the Mayflower, but actually, you know,
Saint Augustine was around long before that.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Wait, long time, yes, long time, you're right, And and
and a lot of it was built, like you say,
limestone and things like that. So yeah, that's a great point. Yeah,
I think I think all of it combined. Flora's just
loaded with energy, crazy energy. Do you know anything about
Mayaka photo Mayaca?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
I say, what did I say? Wrong?

Speaker 7 (36:44):
I say, Mayaka, You're from Boston, so you said it?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Perfect? Wow the case you guys, you win.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
No.

Speaker 8 (36:56):
So Mayaca is a really cool place. That was one
of the very first places I did start investigating when
I moved to Florida. And there is this really cool
video that's out of Mayaca where it's this like field
that is over this water and you can see this
skunk cape running. I mean to me, I think it's legit.
And I just love that area and the energy down there.

Speaker 7 (37:19):
Is so good.

Speaker 8 (37:20):
It's got this giant, you know, state park there, but
there's also so much farmland and it's very rural out there,
so a lot of private property.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
And I just got back from an investigation.

Speaker 8 (37:32):
There's a piece of land down there called Crowley and
it's they say it's not associated with Aleister Crowley, but
I feel like that's still up for debate. Yeah, but
it's one hundred and ninety one of private acre, private
conservation used for educational purposes and things like that, and
it is it butts up to Mayaca, and we had

(37:52):
a little bit of activity when we were there. There's
also like these haunted houses that are on there, the
original standing buildings from the Crowley family. Yeah, and we
did a paranormal investigation in that house there. But yeah,
Mayaca is awesome, great, great area.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Is Denny? Is that what Denny's talking about? That?

Speaker 6 (38:11):
But you said you said a video, He said a photo.
You Oh, oh, I curious because I'm wanting one wonder
if he meant the video the video you're talking about
that dude owns the property and it was great debate
with the town.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Is that the same one?

Speaker 7 (38:25):
Different one?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
So okay?

Speaker 8 (38:26):
Well, okay, so you know, I know what he's talking about.
There is this photo and I think you can find
it around on Reddit, and there's like a pal meadow
and then there's like the skunk ape but it looks very.

Speaker 7 (38:39):
I don't know, like a demonic monkey.

Speaker 8 (38:41):
Type of thing and it's kind of like like that
that's what it looks like. And then there is an
Everglades video that was taken by Dave Sheieley down on
his area, and there's also a Mayaca video.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
So wow, Okay, so I'm trying to figure all right,
so I was getting them, you know, which one I'm
talking talking about though, with the gentleman that has been around.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
It's the most famous one.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
Real, that's gotta be. Yeah, that's got to be probably
Shieli's footage.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, that's the one you said you believe is legit.
H Is that what you were talking about or no?

Speaker 8 (39:12):
No, I was talking about the one from out of Mayaca.
There is a video out of out of Mayaca State
Park that is pretty compelling.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Oh I see it. Hang on, yeah, I think I
got this all right video? Oh there it is?

Speaker 6 (39:27):
Oh I know that one, yeah, two thousand okay, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
And the one wait now they brought up Dave Sheeley though,
is that the same? I'm so confused.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
This is the one I'm talking about, the one where
he's just walking through the tall grass Okay, in a swamp,
you know what.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
I'm talking about?

Speaker 7 (39:47):
Yeah? I think that one's from the Everglades.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
Yeah, definitely from the Everglades. Yeah, this has been around forever.
It's from two.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
Thousand, right, that's probably the one.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yep? Yeah that guy?

Speaker 8 (39:59):
Oh yeah yeah, from my arms only.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
So so that isn't the Mayaca that you're talking about.
Why did they bring me to that? When I part
when I specifically asked for Mayaca. Why are people so
mean to me?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Oh? There it is?

Speaker 6 (40:11):
Hang on, Oh is this the one with the fan
looking thing in front of them?

Speaker 7 (40:17):
I think that's the picture one?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Is that? What is that called?

Speaker 7 (40:21):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (40:22):
I nailed it.

Speaker 8 (40:25):
You're gonna get your Florida badge by the end of
this episode.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yes, Oh yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, what is that? Do you think you believe that
that's legit?

Speaker 7 (40:36):
I mean, it's pretty freaky, It is.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
Pretty freaky, but it looks I mean, I wish you
would stand up because it looks a lot like primate,
which brings me to this now that.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I don't know I have a d D. It brings
me everywhere all the time. So I was like, I was,
I was thinking of this question primate primitive human? Both?

Speaker 8 (40:59):
Oh so I definitely, I personally am not in the
primate camp. But if I if I come across some
evidence or my work takes me someplace else, I'm pretty
open minded and I've I've made that a blanket that
I go where the data takes me. And if I'm
presented with something that challenges my own theories or opinions,
I will change my mind or opinion. But I I

(41:22):
personally really like the human hybrid theory of it, you know,
the giants of old and some of that. That's my
own personal favorite favorite theory. But I always keep it
up in mind to listening to what other people have
to say and what they think, because I mean, they
have some pretty good arguments for you know, gigantipithecus and

(41:43):
other things.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, I've left that building. If I have left that building,
no offense anybody that stays in that building, that's perfectly fine. MK.
That is my fault. I've confused everybody.

Speaker 6 (41:56):
Welcome to Bata with richieb Live Well nowhere up and
down is by the time you leave it. But no,
I feel the same way. And Wojo Wojo loves the giants,
right woj oh.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Yeah, the Lovelock Cave of the history of the Payoutte Indians,
and it's pretty bizarre, especially that when they captured the
female giants, supposedly they made them, and you kind of
wonder how that coincides. Bigfoot dark here between like eight

(42:32):
to ten feet tall, you know, maybe back you know,
they thought they were building their own army back then.
But I just find that pretty fascinating with the whole
giant theory of around here in Massachusetts. They've been finding
a lot of the tombstones everywhere.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Giants.

Speaker 8 (42:53):
Yeah, well yeah, and you guys have the mountains. I mean,
we have mounds here too, but you guys have a
lot of mound activity up there also a.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Lot of mound activity. Yes, a lot of mound activity.
We don't know the history of that. Everybody associated it
to the Native American culture, you know, the society that
was here long before us. And the giants are definitely
a real thing, I think, you know, I mean the bones.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
But also, and I've said this forever, like we've been
on the woods the other day. We were just out yesterday.
The ferns are like almost up to here on me.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
Not that I'm super tall, but still when I was
a kid, they would be down to my shins and
I'd run through the ferns. And now they're huge again, right, which,
why would you have huge dinosaurs, huge birds, huge plants,
huge bugs, huge snakes, huge fish, and small humans with
little toothpicks trying to.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Kill them all.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
It doesn't make any freaking sense.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
I don't want to hear about the land mass connecting crap,
all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
I don't want to hear about any of that stuff,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (43:49):
I'm more like what you just said, I believe, and
not only that as one thing I liked. Wherever my
research would take me is basically what you said. And
that's the beauty if you are doing this, that mindset
is perfect because whether you like it or not, the
research is going to take you off of what you
probably thought you knew.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
Yeah, no, that's very true, just saying right.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
Because we have frequencies thin thing I think there are
a higher frequency than you and I are right, so
unless you're a psychic or medium. Now, psychic or mediums
are also on a higher frequency than someone that doesn't
have that type of sensitivity.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Would you agree?

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Right?

Speaker 6 (44:27):
So why can't a primitive bigfoot be on a higher
frequency the medium or psychic?

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Why can't they?

Speaker 6 (44:33):
And then Damien talked about cloaking and we've had experiences
with the.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Self illudinating illuminating.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
Oh talk to me, I have too.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
Yeah, we have footage of it, and I was pretty
freaked out about it. And that's why his eyes look
like they do, because that's what I saw in the woods.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yeah, and he was really tall.

Speaker 8 (44:56):
No, I've also seen the self elimination of the eyes.
And to answer, I saw a question in the chat
that said, what color do you see more? The colors
that I've seen are red and white. Those have been
the colors that I've come in contact with.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
I'd have to agree with that, and we I had
a white with ones I was seeing is white with
a greenish shoe.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I think you know, Wojo was there for that. The
only time I've ever seen the red, I wasn't.

Speaker 6 (45:25):
Wojo was onto this before I was, and I just
wasn't there yet, you know what I mean. And I
said to him, I'm just not here yet. You know
what I mean. I'm just I just have to have
more experiences with things and really build up this this
type of belief, even with what was happening to me
in my backyard in the woods, even with having him
run by ors at sixty feet and watching the black
you know, of the back or whatever run through the

(45:45):
trees and I can almost see him pushing the trees
behind him, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
What I mean.

Speaker 6 (45:48):
But it wasn't a forty foot high My name's rich encounter.
So you and I are a law along the same
lines as that as well. I need a high five
from the dude, you know what I mean to really
get to that hundred, right, and the self illuminating eyes
when we were walking out the path, they were, but
we also knew that there were houses off in a distance,

(46:09):
so you're being very cautious, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
But there was too many.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
There was like eight of them, and I'm like, there's
not eight houses, would you know all the stunts that
we would be able to see. And then there's a
crust of a hill that goes up and then that
was a factor, and then there's all the forest that's
a factor.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
So I'm sitting here like looking around really trying to assess.

Speaker 6 (46:28):
I had my phone out because I do YouTube live
all the time with everybody on the side too, and.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I just was I don't know if I was grabbing it. It
wasn't really sticking.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
To me, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
I was like, what is going on here? And you know,
Woldes was like they could have be eyes. I said,
I'm not saying that word. I'm not gonna say that word.
Those lights, you know what I mean. I just wasn't
there And lo and behold, I looked up to my
left up here just weren't like this why, I don't know,
just went up like this and about he was about
fifty feet from us.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
We know the tree because we know our researcher.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
Our nook and cranny research area, kind of like what
you were saying before, those little nooks and crannies that
you own that you have in your head that you
know everything about. Right, And I see this one red
just like you see behind me right now, see the
one And I sat there staring at it, going why
is there a red light up in that tree? Like
ten feet up?

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, and he's on a hill, so it's more like
twelve feet right. So I stopped. I'm doing this, and
I see the one eye, the one eye now, the
one light, and I'm going, why is that one red?

Speaker 7 (47:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (47:30):
That's interesting. I have a very similar story about.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Oh it's it's getting creepy, man.

Speaker 7 (47:35):
But with the singular light. So that's something I got
to tell you about.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
All right, cool, because I'm going to tell you what
happened after you tell me what happened with you.

Speaker 7 (47:43):
Okay, cool?

Speaker 8 (47:44):
So I did have Okay, So I was on a
scouting trip for a BFO expedition that was going to
happen in February, and we were in it was November,
and we were up scouting in the Panhandle, looking for
spots and investigating and things like that. So that's where
I had my encounter where I saw the two eyes.

(48:06):
They were up in the tree, probably about eight nine
feet up. I'd seen them. Then I wound up shining
my flashlight and I made contact with it and I
got that up down, up, down motion and then it
was gone. So I'd already seen something there. Now, fast
forward to the expedition in February, we had gone back

(48:28):
to the same location to a spot that we had
already scouted, and it was really cool because in the
woods there was this like natural bowl that kind of
went down and it was all clear, and he had
these tall pines.

Speaker 7 (48:38):
It's We're like, okay, this is perfect.

Speaker 8 (48:40):
So we set out some firewood and things like that,
and then we came back at night time and we
were just going to sit light a fire, hang out,
do some provocations, see if we had any activity we
were going to do, like you know, sending people out
and things like that. And we'd broken up into small
groups everybody had radios and everybody had their own spot,
and where we were, there's like a river, and basically

(49:02):
where I had seen the eyes was right over here,
and then we're here and the river's there, so all
really close in the same area. And when I had
seen the eyes in November, I was with two other people,
but I was the only one who had seen it.
Now fast forward, we're in February and I'm sitting there
and all of a sudden, I see this red light

(49:26):
and I'm like, oh God, not a gun, right, So
I'm like, guys, look at that.

Speaker 7 (49:30):
And there's nobody back there like where we are.

Speaker 8 (49:33):
I can't even stress how much people do not go
to this particular area. We were completely alone and I
see this light and I shout to the other people
who were there, and then they turned and they saw it,
and we observed it. It was under ten seconds, but
we got to see it, and we're watching it and
it kind of like lowers and then it's gone.

Speaker 7 (49:53):
But remember we're.

Speaker 8 (49:54):
Kind of in that bowl, so something could potentially come
and view us without feeling like it's going to be
exposed or anything like that. And there was absolutely nothing
back there, no other groups no other people, so that
was pretty freaky. That was pretty freaky, right, And it
was a singular red light, so I just had to yeah, no.

Speaker 6 (50:11):
I appreciate that. And it had that like motion where
it does this, yeah you know. And and what happened
with me was and it's I still wasn't getting it
like you just got it when you saw that, right,
so you were like, all right, hey, guys, look at this.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I still wasn't there.

Speaker 6 (50:26):
And I swear and I'm not trying to get weird
on everybody, but it was like the thing wanted to say,
oh yeah, I got something for you.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
And it just it went like this.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
This is what I remember and I can still see
it as I'm telling you, and it went like this,
and then there were two of them, just says like this,
two eyes right and then and then there were two
eyes like this, and it looked right at me and
then went right back up to where it was and
back to one. And I said, I said to and

(50:55):
I'm on my YouTube live, I'm like, is that a
head or neck?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
At me?

Speaker 6 (50:59):
Like I was just and I go it just it
just showed me that it had a head and that
it was proving to me what I thought it was.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
It was.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
There was no ifans or doubts about it any further
at that moment, self luring eyes with intelligence moved or
look right at me and went right back up to
where it was to.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
It was one eye. Again, absolutely blew my mind.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
And the other cool thing was that same night we
were getting lit up on the on this path, I
heard movement as these guys were all kind of freaking
out over the lights and the eyes, you know, like
talking discussing it, right, And I heard movement back here
on my left. So I look and this something just

(51:42):
kind of dots behind the tree. It's nighttime, and so
I thought it was a firefly, but it was it
was cold, and it wasn't firefly season. But again my
mind searches for the rational, right, so I'm like, oh,
maybe that was a firefly, So I think it was.
The next investigation wasn't long after that. It was a
couple of days. Maybe We went back out there and

(52:02):
I went down by that tree. It was kind of
mess with my head a little bit, but I went
around it and to the bottom and we casted what
we believe is a handprint, and it was down a hill,
but the tree was right here, and then I and
then off to its right, there was another impression right
right roach and the leaves right and Mojo saw that

(52:25):
one right roach.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Yeah, so we want to look like and it was dark,
you know, but the following day the leaves fell on it,
and which is like where is it? I go, well,
is it right here? He goes, No, I thought it
was high, but then I'm looking at goll, what's this compression?
So we moved the leaves. Well, we believe because there's
a hill right in front that you believe that like
it had its hand down, but it had his knee

(52:48):
down and it's kind of doing this, So that's why it.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Was peeking out. All made sense.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Oh that's why because Richie's like, dude, what are those
of those light up flies? Call it five flies? He goes,
I just saw one, there, goes again. I just looked
at that. I was I thought it was a yeah.
I mean look, I know we kind of like see
we were like kind of like freaking out, but but
I could hear the noise back then, you know, slamming

(53:14):
on the breaking of the little snaps of the twigs there.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
But yeah, it was freaked out.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
But it's probably a squat of his position with the
knee down and everything.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Yeah, and when we cashed the hand, it was like
in the end of the earth.

Speaker 6 (53:27):
It was in like it was reached into the compost,
deep into the hill and kind of pulled itself up
with that.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
You could almost see the curl in the finger.

Speaker 7 (53:36):
That's interesting.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
My one of my research partners, Marion Her, a family
member of hers had a sighting on their property and
this was the second time that this family member had
seen this guncap. This is here in Florida, and now
the second time. When you said handprint, I was like,
I got excited because he was riding on this dirt

(54:00):
bike trail and doing jumps and things like that, and
he looks over and he sees a skun gape watching
him while he's taking the jumps and everything and all
of it.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
But when he.

Speaker 8 (54:11):
Catches his eyes with it, it goes down just as
you're saying, it goes down, So of course he runs off.
He wound up grabbing her and somebody else and they
wound up going to check this thing out. And I
actually have a picture of it. I'll send it to you,
and I think it's on my Facebook. It's also or
Instagram if people want to check that out too. It
was in the dirt and she clearly got this like

(54:33):
picture of this giant handprint, and then there were these
I'm trying to remember it right now. I think it's
like the Paul Meadows. When you rip them up the
root balls are edible, I think they call it. You
can make cabbage and like stew and stuff like that
out of it. And so these things had been shredded
and eaten, like some of them was eating a snag

(54:54):
just watching him ride and that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (54:59):
You know, it's funny because skunk patch that I was
telling you about the skunk cabbage patch, and that's why
I think the skunk ape smells like a lot like
like a skunk because I think that's a lot of
its diet down there, to be honest with you. But
they pull them up, yeah, and they eat the book,
well they eat all of it really, but I know
it's not like they are nibbling the top of the leaves,
you know what I mean. So that's interesting because same

(55:21):
kind of mentality.

Speaker 8 (55:22):
Right, Yeah, And Bigfoot World they also got a casting
of a handprint from one of the areas that they
research in as well.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Really interesting. I got a questions.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Damien Smith. Damien's a dude from Scotland.
He's one of those thinkers and he says, with being female,
do you feel you attract more male sassy or do
females show more interest?

Speaker 7 (55:47):
Oh that's a great question.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah, have you had an incident close enough to tell?

Speaker 8 (55:53):
I mean, no, I have not, but I will say
there have been times. There has been a time on
that same expedition where we heard this howl just go out,
this crazy howl, and to me it sounded more female.
But that's the only time that I really like could say,
oh that sounds like a like a female squatch. Other

(56:14):
than that, I have no way of, you know, determining
the gender. I haven't gotten that close to see.

Speaker 6 (56:20):
Yeah, Wojo tell all right, Wojo, Bojo's dying chomping at
the bitch.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Is your dog snoring yet, Wojo, I ticked the dog out.
It's dog snore.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
So sometimes in the show, I'm sitting you thinking I'm
here at VPS, it's just his dog snoring. Pick it
up on the microphone. But Wojo tell her about the
female thing. We were talking about Tim Gahawk picked it
off from Ohio Big four.

Speaker 9 (56:44):
He was kind of on top of it. I think
it was one of our lives, right, yeah, it was
h Yeah, it was one of our lives. I think
it was like me, you and Sky and out of
the woods and we're hearing woops whatever.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
But then you hear like a very female less high
pitched who right, and.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Then you hear like a.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
I don't know, it's like it was like a different
like a childish pitch. Yeah, and then well and then
well will it sounds like a family of three, you know,
We're sitting there like whacking each other, like, dude, this
sounds like three of them. We get that a lot
on our recordings. It's just crazy out there.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
Right, and that's what we So what we do is
when we do our lives, do you do any lives
out there and have audience and like people like watching it?
So we do lives Like we did a live yesterday.
It was like eight thousand and six hundred and twenty
something viewed.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
It was crazy.

Speaker 7 (57:44):
Here's the reason. Part of it is a lot of
the places I go have no cell signal.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
That's a good point.

Speaker 8 (57:50):
Did Yeah, yeah, oh my god, especially when I do
researching in the Panhandle has been by far the worst
place for signal. I mean even at our campground nothing.
Uh so you kind of got to make sure you're
prepared and you got what you got, you know, and
you're ready, you're right. Even even in THEKLA and our

(58:12):
other research area, it can be pretty spotty out there.
I mean there's only sometimes patches of places.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
So I don't go.

Speaker 8 (58:19):
I don't go live a lot because a lot of
like I said, a lot of places we go, the
signal is just horrible. So our phones are purely decoration
and and there for pictures and videos and audio and
things like that.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
But excellent, Oh here we go Android or Apple Apple,
Yeah booth, dude, we gotta stop mocking these and and
like keeping score. Bro, there's an Android donkey down below.
Come on, come on, dude, it's a freaking tablet. You're
on a tablet. You're on a goddamn tablet.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
That's all it is.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
I'm on a computer, your tablet like a little kids
can play ABC mouse on Yaws for like three minutes
before it runs out of memory.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Shut up, all right. Anyways, different trees, different soils, what
have you up here? We get a lot of tree structures,
a lot of manipulations of huts, so on and so forth.
Have you encountered any like manipulations of the forest or

(59:21):
the swamp areas?

Speaker 7 (59:22):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (59:24):
We come across some pretty interesting structures here, for sure.
We've seen some pretty cool ones. Not sure exactly what
they mean, but beautiful arches. We've come with these trees
that are clearly pinned down or other trees that have
are what we think are not natural breaks that have
been kind of put together. Yeah, we do come across those,

(59:46):
and we we there does seem to be a correlation
with that and activity we've noticed, right, you just.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
Callow the trail. Yeah, what we have is like a
lot of sap wicks tied up on and so forth.
But what's amazing is that we have like a lot
of deadwoods, like pine trees with the knots you know,
that stick out, and it's amazing that they make these
like thirty foot x's and it's just like barey, you know,

(01:00:16):
against those trees. But nothing's broken, you know what I
You know, what we study is you know, any structures whatever,
like any you know, uh, scrapes on the on the
bark anything like that, and it's just perfectly placed. I
mean it's almost like a like you got autistic traits
in there, like you're just so perfect of what you're doing.

Speaker 7 (01:00:37):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Yeah. And it doesn't one good point wardro brough up
a long time ago.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
I mean, some of these trees fall on this little
twig that it's leaning on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
The little twig would have broken and it would just
go right through it and down to the ground. How
is it leaning on there?

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
If it fell that far away and it's like a
thirty forty foot tree, right, it's what like physics? I
mean you have you have, We don't physics on my show.
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
You know if they come down whirlywoods, they gonna make them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Yes, that's right. If it falls at a thirty degree angle,
my Algief Space Mudgety tour, you know what I mean? Like,
I just can't. Yeah, I got you. Physics makes sense,
you're right.

Speaker 6 (01:01:16):
But the one thing, if you think Layman's terms, if
that falls, it's gonna break that damn small dried ass
up pine twig. Absolutely, Why is it laying on it
and the thing's not broken if it fell right before
we go too far away from the eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Would you mind if I showed you a video of
what we caught.

Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
Our game camera. Oh, I'd love to see it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
I'm gonna show you two versions of it. I'm gonna
show you one from the natural distance that it came from,
and then I zoomed it in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Would you like to do that? Let's play a game?

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Yeah, dude?

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
Oh wait, hang on, yeah, let's see. Yeah, here we go.
Hang on, it's not the video. Hang on, I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:02:06):
Getting it, relaxed, I have a video intro video. Is
the animal still here? By the way, he's got a
show on tonight, don'ty all right? Check it out. Here
we go. See if you can find.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
It on your own.

Speaker 7 (01:02:23):
Oh gosh, no pressure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
No pressure at all. I'm a player.

Speaker 7 (01:02:32):
I think I see it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Okay, okay, ready, I'll do it. It's going again. You're ready.
H Actually, I'll love it too. Watch it.

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
It's over towards the right correct.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Yes, yes, okay, and there's two Oh yes, now watch
keep watching. It's got a loop.

Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
It's got a loop for you so you can do
a research investigation right here with us. Determination tell me
the characteristics of it and why it makes it so unique.

Speaker 8 (01:03:10):
I think what makes it unique is that it seems
that they're moving in parallel. Instead of maybe being two
separate things, I think it's just one big thing because
it's not like ones moving then the other one's moving.
They appear to be moving in tandem.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
You are exactly on the same thought line.

Speaker 7 (01:03:28):
And it's pretty big.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
Correct And and and this brings up to the question
about I guess cloaking, because when we got this footage,
I just I have to order the videos. It's a satellite,
so when I see something, I got to request it,
you know. So I just requested it because I had
no explanation for anything. And then this started moving, and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Then I was like, oh my god, will Joy call me?

Speaker 6 (01:03:52):
Like, rach you got to check that out, you know, Yes,
the dove, the bleaky uh yeah one side, Watch the
left one, Watch the left one right about here?

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Mm hmmm is that like it flashes?

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
You see it flash yep?

Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
Right, So when we look at at this and remember
the same characteristics of the movement that we just shared.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
You told me about your.

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
Story with the eye right where it's kind of just
moving a little bit and it has that little curious
movement about itself.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
It has all the things that you talk about when
it's associated to to sasquatch, really does, and it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Right, So watch this. I'll bring it up close for
you if you're ready. You naeled it, you naeled it
right and ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
And that's why I like to do things organically because
it's like we're not trying to you know, we didn't
have this conversation backstage.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
I just presented this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Yea now, and it's great to get other researchers point
of view to some of our evidence. You know, is
that wild or.

Speaker 7 (01:04:58):
What that's freak?

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
That is wild?

Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
Now, this is about sixty feet from our camera, so
to speak.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
You say, yeah, uh just what's just what's that right eye?
Still that little shadow ship? Yeah, it's pretty well.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
Uh no, no you you you at your show. No, No,
I'm just gonna hang out for ten minutes. I'm leaving,
all right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
No, So so right with that that area is there's
actually a big pine tree right across from this creek.
And we didn't find a big depression of eight of
the eighteen eighteen inches by eight and a quarter.

Speaker 6 (01:05:44):
Yep, yeah, yeah, so that you know, context is everything,
And I mean, I'm I've been pushing that theory for
a while now. Context contact context, right, because it's not
fair to present something to somebody that's a researcher and
not at least give some context.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
You know, I wanted you to.

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
See, say what you were seeing organically, and then have
the discussion of context. So yeah, so to me, it
has the same motions they talk about, like it's kind
of curious.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Maybe it was cloaking And then I.

Speaker 7 (01:06:12):
Was thinking, yeah, that's I'll cross my mind too, right, like.

Speaker 6 (01:06:16):
Maybe what I'm what I was thinking was this it's
not the self illuminating eyes. This is actually eyes shine, right,
because they're in a cloak and the eye outo lights
hitting them and maybe they just don't know that that's
what happens if you're hit with an eye on when
you're cloaking, they might think that they're safe.

Speaker 8 (01:06:32):
Yeah, or go for it do to how wide it
seems to be. What if that's like the head and
like you said, maybe you're getting something showing you the
size of the head and you're getting yes that yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:06:48):
And that's the distance of the eyes apot from one another, right, yeah, no,
one undred percent that I totally agree with. But the
cloaking thing, again, it's one of those things where I'm
not totally there yet, you know what I mean. But
I'm fine things as I go through my research with
the term that you use so eloquently earlier, and I
agree one hundred percent that that's where the research takes.

Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
You places, right, Yeah, no, it definitely does.

Speaker 6 (01:07:13):
And this is one of the things that fall under
that umbrella for me that staring at this over and
over again, I'm going, dude, like seriously, like you said,
they're moving in unison. You know, there's separated a pot
equally throughout the whole video, and uh yeah, it's pretty amazing.
It's a pretty cool piece of footage for me, and

(01:07:35):
it to present it to other researches and get your
input is huge.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Right. Let's see, Oh so structures, So you are you're
good with structures?

Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
Oh yeah, we come across them all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:07:51):
Do you name your structures the types of them?

Speaker 8 (01:07:55):
Well, yeah, so you know x's arches, coiners.

Speaker 7 (01:08:01):
Things like that.

Speaker 8 (01:08:02):
We didn't came across one that was like A and
an X all in one.

Speaker 7 (01:08:08):
Uh that those are kind of like a triangle.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Woe love this girl already happened.

Speaker 7 (01:08:16):
Yesterday, Yes, came across one.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
I'm gonna get it right now. I can't believe you
just said that. I knew you were going to say
something profound. Just how exactly how she described it to
a t dude. That's Crazy's talk about Brooker.

Speaker 7 (01:08:33):
Now I need to find the picture and send it
to you real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
He called you.

Speaker 7 (01:08:42):
I've been called worse.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
That's fine, light Brooker.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Hang on.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
That is amazing. Good job, Joe.

Speaker 7 (01:08:50):
This is actually I'll send you structure. My girl, Kathy
bigfoot World. We found this together.

Speaker 8 (01:08:58):
When we were out in best and I'll send you
a couple of pictures from different angles, because when you
looked at it and then we found this like pine
cone that wasn't just like fell there, it was like
shoved in.

Speaker 7 (01:09:11):
And she has video on.

Speaker 8 (01:09:12):
Her YouTube of that day that we were out investigating
and she was like, go see if this is like
just fallen in there or not. And when I went
to go grab it, it was like shoved in there.

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
No, we have something very similar to that, and I
have them with mushrooms as well.

Speaker 7 (01:09:28):
Oh that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Oh yes, it is awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:09:32):
This is so mushrooms.

Speaker 6 (01:09:33):
Yeah, so where I told you when we got that
heel in the pete moss with a hots are inside.
And we have a picture of one of the most
profound compost footage foot Prince Richard speak footprints I had
ever seen. It was the big guy in this hut
that we suspected that where they would stay in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Sure enough, there was this footprint. And then next time
we went back.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
Or two times later, we went back and on this
their laurels mostly and the and the laurel have a
lot of branches that break off of it and stuff.
And there was a mushroom that was pulled from the ground.
You could still see the dirt and root on it.
It went like this, and this is the branch right
this right, and the top of the mushroom was hooked
on the branch that went straight up and then the

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stem went down the shape of the branch that was
parallel like this. It was hooked on that branch as
if to say here I am dude.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
And I was like, all right, let me let me
see it. I see what you got.

Speaker 7 (01:10:31):
Let's see. I sent it to you. I don't know
if this is easier, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
No, no, no, no, I know I'm gonna show. I think
I could pull it up.

Speaker 7 (01:10:37):
I'm just doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
I'm not a digital creator like I have. I have
two producers to run my show, all right, because that's
how crazy my brain gets, all right, And I love
them both daily. They're awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Hang on one second, I've learned one last thing on
the Oh no, no, no, you call her Brooker. Now
you made up the name. You live with it, Brooker.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
So shine, So I purposely stayed when we were leaving.
We had, you know, our team leave and coluding Ritchie
and they were cut. They would go out the driveway
and take a right while we have these I shines,
you know, right there by the by the road. And
you can see when they were leaving, two of them,

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you know, the heads just turned like just at the
same time, turned and looked at me. I'm like, all right,
thank you, time to time for me to go joy
enjoy your peanut butter, because we left them like streets
and stuff like, have a nice day. I'm like, but
it isn't of the shine. It's just bizarre. It's so

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bright it is.

Speaker 8 (01:11:47):
And especially when you see it for the first time,
I think it's definitely changed the way that I look
at things for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
Yeah, but it's proven like that that they are there. Well,
whatever is there? Actually?

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
And watch Richie. He was the last one to leave.
I'm like, oh my god, they're watching him leave and
then they turned back to me. I'm like, that is bizarre.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
So I'm gonna show you. I'm going to bring up one. Oh,
there it is. I'm going to show you one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Here. I gotta go back in and get him.

Speaker 6 (01:12:17):
Because it's re stream and I didn't set up like
a because we had doing this live. So this this,
this is something that I've only found twice in almost
ten years of research. And this let mean it's kind
of highlighted, but if you pick it out anyways, what
it is?

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Excuse me?

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
What's so? What's so intriguing about this X.

Speaker 7 (01:12:40):
Jimming in real quick?

Speaker 8 (01:12:44):
Well, from what I can see, it looks like perhaps
that the bark is missing from those areas close.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
But now it's absolutely profound. They profound.

Speaker 7 (01:12:55):
You found a hamprint on it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
No, it's into walking, it's into I see that. Well, yeah,
one side goes front of the tree.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
The other guy's side goes back of the tree and
both have only found two of these.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Ever, is that crazy?

Speaker 7 (01:13:09):
That's pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
That's crazy, man, Mother nature, don't do that. No, magic,
whirly winds are not interlocking xes in the trees.

Speaker 6 (01:13:17):
People, not happening. Isn't that beautiful? I love it so much.
I can stare at it all day. I'm so weird.
All right, moving on?

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Oh wait, you guys still here? I thought you left?
All right? Here we go, Uh, here we go, Here
we go, here we go.

Speaker 6 (01:13:31):
Check it out, check it out, check it out. Boom boom,
Wait where Brooks go? Brook Brooks hit me. I just
looked at it. They have to do it again. Oh no,
I don't. I found you fool.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
All here we go talking to the others. This is
and this is in Florida right here.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
Guys see that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Wow, it's got the A shape, but it has a
little extra for the X.

Speaker 8 (01:13:53):
Yeah, and right in the middle of there, up at
the top. It's hard to see, but that other tree
is like wedged in there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Yeah, it's like a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:14:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:14:03):
And that's from one side of it. So you see,
we've got the X, this A, this triangle and then
on the other side where the rest of the tree
is how it's wedged in there like almost like a fork.
We we found that that pine cone shoved in there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
I love it, man, I love it. And we had
another mushroom. I found two mushrooms.

Speaker 6 (01:14:25):
The other one I found, remember wolves, I had to
climb a tree to get it. Yeah, it was a
ground mushroom and it was on a structure, but it
was like fifteen feet up the tree on the side,
hooked onto a branch.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
And I said, dude, come on, man, how's that get there?

Speaker 6 (01:14:37):
That that's start. That ain't happening, mister squirrel, ain't doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Stop. I'm not listening to that crap. I think that
school as hell.

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
And I want to welcome the one the only elder
medicine vehiclear Isse. Welcome, Welcome Oki. Oh. She helped us
kind of talk to the Satanas with native tongue so
to speak. So it helps yep.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
And and she's yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:15:05):
She's been very well like, very helpful in guiding us
and helping us. She makes amazing smudge kids. And wait, wait,
I got it. Medicine bag bag of protection right there.
Need your stuff, It's all in there, and it's blessed
by the elders. So reach out to Elder Medicine veh
Clar and she will hook you up. Oh she's amazing,

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she's amazing, great, great help. She's been amazing for us.
But we have found these types of things like this,
and and you know, one o the things speaking of language,
and we'll get to the vocal part of this whole thing,
but one thing to think about, well before we get there.
We actually had a recording that we sent out to
a linguist and he said it was a he said
it was words. He said, you know, a language, so

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to speak, gutt a role the whole nine yards. And
so we've been using that language to yell back out
to the woods.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
And we've gotten responses from it.

Speaker 8 (01:15:58):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
It's crazy interesting like that. And that's what we heard
on the recording.

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
And we've gotten soft taps and we had a like
a juvenile type scream from the behind us.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
It was crazy. It's all live on YouTube. Everybody can
watch it. I don't record and then come out of
the woods. I literally you can see and hand things.
It's not always easy to hear. I don't have top
notch equipment, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:16:21):
But but Anyways, we'll get to that. But I love structure.
I think it's awesome. What do you think that woj
Yeah that it almost looks like remember that letter A.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Wait wait wait wait wait, I'm getting to it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Oh boy, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Getting to it. I worked hot on this.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Would it's like A like about eighteen inches in diameter.

Speaker 6 (01:16:40):
No, this one from yesterday. Yes, Look at the the
bottom of the A is off the ground. It's actually
off the ground, and it looked like an A. But
if you go up top, that's an X too.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:16:53):
And you have the vertical one going across yeah, or horizontal?
Oh god, don't come for me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
No, she's figured us out.

Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
Early dyslexic.

Speaker 6 (01:17:04):
You could be whatever you want to be on the
banter RICHI Me podcast, Trust Me, Trust Me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Isn't that cool?

Speaker 7 (01:17:09):
Though?

Speaker 6 (01:17:10):
But the A with the X and we just found
that yesterday. We just saw that yesterday. We were super
excited about it. A has some meaning in their folks.
He has some kind of meaning, and we know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
X does so well.

Speaker 8 (01:17:22):
I did an interview with Barnaby Jones and he does
research out of Wisconsin, and he said that they and
I was like, I need to try this next time
a mountain just to kind of see and so you
should try to We'll see if it works. He had
found a structure and he said it was kind of
like a map to the game trails in the area,
and he when he would follow it, it led him

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to another structure and then to another structure. But he
said it kind of happened in this one particular area.
He tried to replicate that same kind of thought process
experiment in another spot and didn't have the same type
of results. I've yet to try it, but I'd love
to give it a go, just to see because it's interesting.
And then we were kind of chatting to see, like
what does it mean? Does it mean different things for

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different families or tribes of them or regions. Are the
meetings behind these structures vary from place to place?

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
I you know, and that's a great question too.

Speaker 6 (01:18:18):
But all right, so I've been on I've been big
on structures for a long time, and I've been i
guess associated with other researchers that have been around a
long time and you know, have climbed a pretty big
mountain and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
So when I came in and I was this new.

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
Guy, and I'm like, yeah, structures you know are real,
you know, and they're like, yeah, okay, all scientific type
people blah blah blah, And I'm like, so I would
say my argum would be, how can you be scientific
in a non scientific field?

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
It didn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 6 (01:18:49):
We have some science, yes, but it's not directly correlated
or tied to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Or connected to Bigfoot. It's unknown.

Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
We all know what it is, we all have a
good failing on what that is, but we can again,
can't just say it's scientific, right. So to me, these
structures are and what we've had conversations with. Wojo and
I have had a lot of conversations. That's why we
make a great team. Wojo hunted for many years and
we can stand there and look at something and have
this discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
We think there's a number of reasons.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
Definitely regional, Definitely, clans, definitely communication, water this way, food
sauce that way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
All that's true.

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
But we have areas where we call the college, the university,
the high school, the elementary school, like different areas where
it's a smaller area but everything's just shattered, just sticks everywhere.
And we believe it's a combination of a da trap.
We think it's a combination of teaching their young how
to make these structures, so nothing has bach on it

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and it's all unexplainable, up and down, over and under
crazy stuff, right, So we believe there's a combination of that.
We believe that a lot of it is food source.
So a da is running down the game trail and
then you changed it up, dere automatically stops and does this,
and when the dear does that, he ends.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Up getting his little legs shattered and carried off.

Speaker 6 (01:20:07):
And I have many shattered bones around my studio here
with marrow like taken out of them, and they're shattered
like snapped, fractured, broken in half.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
No marrow.

Speaker 6 (01:20:18):
There's no animals up here that do that. Nothing, And
there's no teeth puncture wounds like it's, you know, something
trying to rip it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
It is this snap.

Speaker 6 (01:20:27):
So a lot of the theory is the forearm across
the legs, pick it up, carry it's dead, it's over it,
pot he's done. So you know stuff like that. You know,
So the structures and play a very important part. I
think at all that stuff and I don't know, well,
Joe and I wet'll sit there talking all day about them.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
It's funny because what's the new game camera right.

Speaker 6 (01:20:53):
Is in the college what we call the college, right,
so we keep a game camera out there. Obviously you
can see that. You can't really see a lot of
college here, but we changed we keep moving on game
camera around. So that's one of the big things. So vocals,
have you have you picked up on any vocals and
things like that while you're out there?

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Have you have you recorded any Have you heard any?

Speaker 7 (01:21:18):
What any vocals?

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Yeah? Like what types of sounds are you hearing? Do
you believe in mimics?

Speaker 7 (01:21:23):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
I do you do? Okay, all right, go ahead, I
want to hear this.

Speaker 8 (01:21:27):
Yeah, no, I definitely do. So I have had some
experience with vocals, Like we were talking about that really
crazy how that we got one time when we were
out researching that was at a nighttime investigation and one
of the guys I was with had, you know, like

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the old pop guns. He had one of these, and
we knew some other researchers were coming and they were
going to post up like down the road. So he
was like, listen, let's go ahead and try to do
a provocation before they get here, Like because we were
on this expedition and they were going to be setting up,
and so we thought it got out and we're like,
went right into it. We're like, all right, let's do it,

(01:22:08):
and so he lets it off, pop pop pop, three pops,
and then no sooner did he do that, we get
this like blood curling howl scream in response. And then
once we got that howl, all of a sudden, it
set off the coyotes. So two very different things. And
then the rest of the night we had major activity

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happen from really basically that point on. But it was
good that we did it because then after we got
that owl, no joke, like forty five seconds later, they
come barreling down the road and we can hear them.
They have their windows down and they're like talking and
jamming and everything. So we were so happy that we
did it when we did, because we got back that response.
So I have heard those howls, and then we also

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have heard things, and I know a lot of people
are on the fence about it, things that sound like.

Speaker 7 (01:22:57):
Owls, but.

Speaker 8 (01:23:00):
Not sure, you know, crazy quite, you know, they sound
like owls, but they're different.

Speaker 6 (01:23:06):
Watching our shows and not telling us woa Joe, that
is absolutely crazy, dude.

Speaker 8 (01:23:15):
Yeah, or you know, And I think it's interesting too
because still with like you know, they say, like the
wood knocks, I like to enjoy the conversation that that
could also be just from their mouths, that they could
be popping, yeah, something withinside them.

Speaker 7 (01:23:31):
Because here's the thing.

Speaker 8 (01:23:31):
You're not always going to find a tree that you
can get that Louisville slugger crack from. So when we're
talking vocals, I almost feel like those would knocks fall
into that category. And if that's the case, we've also
gotten those back in responses to different provocations that we

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try to do correct.

Speaker 6 (01:23:53):
So all right, so you sound more and more like
me as this interview goes on. It's very weird. Warjow
is it weird? Oh my god, dude, it's so weird.
So I'm gonna tell you a story.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
MK.

Speaker 6 (01:24:03):
We're not on stream, Yeah, we're on restream. So no,
it is not that easy in this case, but thank
you for your input sir, enjoy the beverages.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 6 (01:24:14):
So in my backyard, I I gained a little bit attention.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
I guess as time went on and.

Speaker 6 (01:24:22):
People came out to investigate but I was very cautious
about it because I had kid's growing up there and
you know all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
It's my odd you know.

Speaker 6 (01:24:29):
So anyways, I was very selective about who I brought
out there. So one gentleman he was associated with a
full letter place and a local page as well, and
very nice dude, and we're actually gonna be doing some
speaking side by side with him and stuff as we
this summer, and so very knowledgeable, lots of years of experience.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
So he came out with us.

Speaker 6 (01:24:50):
And I had an author and I guess you could
say some of the historian of the Bridgewater Triangle area
that wanted to do a chapter in her book about myself.
So so we went out to my property and I
showed him, and the whole time we're out there, I
kept hearing like this little crunching. Like my hearing is ridiculous,
but I kept hearing this crunching, and it was always
in their formation. They always have this formation, and if

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there's a third one, it's a triangle. He's right at
the point. So I kept going, hey, you guys, hear that,
you know, And I'm like, oh, this.

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
Dude's gonna think I'm the bigfoot, bigfoot, bigfoot guy, you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Know what I mean. But I knew what I was hearing.
I'm not you know, I know I'm locked in. I
knew I was hearing. So I've showed them all the structures,
all the areas and stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:25:29):
Long story showed we do about a two hour investigation
research in my backyard.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
We're coming back. Take all that gear off. I put
it on the ground.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
We're at the end of my game trip where that
opening is, where that tree got staffed I told you about, right.
So I have my phone in my hoodie pocket and
we're sitting there, we're talking, and I hear that crunch again,
and then he goes, what.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
Kind of duck is that duck? I've been here for years, man,
I ain't never heard no duck out here. Has that
forest duck?

Speaker 6 (01:25:56):
You know what I mean? Kind of funny, you know?
And and then all of a sudden, you hear it.
There was one over here. And he goes and he
made he made this, uh the Samurai conversation. He went, oh, watch,
I bought you something like that, right, just you know,
I can't say it exactly, but that's what it sounded like.
And then he stopped and we all went like frozen.

(01:26:18):
And then there was one off to the left. He
did it, but he was bigger, and he said something different.
He was like, oh, bough Josh like that. And now
we're like, I'm reaching for my phone and I'm going
they're close.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
I'm you know, and my dad. If I pull this.

Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
Thing out and they don't know what it is or
whatever the case might be, or will the experience stop? Right,
So the first one picked back up instead of going
back to them. Now here's why I agree with you
one in your last theory about the knocking song. When
it got done the second time, the one off the right,
and mind you, their formation was exactly as I heard

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them throughout the investigation.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
So this guy went back. He goes, oh, what.

Speaker 6 (01:27:00):
Ya, And then there was this loud like a like
a pop, but to me, I associated it with a
chest pop a not a tree knock.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:27:10):
So then the second one had picked up after that
like a period so to speak, and said it, and
then he did it at the end of his second sentence,
and it was it sounded like a tree knock. But
I knew where they were located. It's my back yard.
I know this place there was no perfect tree. There
was no perfect Louisville sluga. There was nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
It had to be a physical vocal sound for that
to be done.

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
And I remember looking up at Dave and David at
the time was like like the like this, like what
the hell would.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
We just hear?

Speaker 6 (01:27:40):
And He's an experienced, seasoned guy, and I'm like, dude,
is that the Sierra sounds?

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Is that the Sierra sounds?

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
I kept saying it to him, that's a Sierra sounds
And he goes, he goes, He goes, I think it's
time for us to go because they were really close,
so we backed out.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
You know. I waved to the woods like a crazy person.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Thank you, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:27:57):
And he goes, I think the hare because of you, bro,
I said, what are you talking about? He goes, I
think they hear because of you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
He goes.

Speaker 6 (01:28:03):
You respect them, they they respect you. I'm telling you,
you just don't get that tight.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
He goes.

Speaker 6 (01:28:08):
I have people that see them all the time that
I look as. They call the Knowers. One of the
worst phrases ever. It's kind of like squatchy, you know,
those two words drive me nuts. But they said they've
never heard him talk before and that my experience was
crazier than nails, And I'm like, come on, dude, that's
but it was.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
It was pretty nuts.

Speaker 6 (01:28:28):
But so I'm as a one researcher to another, I've
just proven your theory to you that that no, no, seriously,
that happened to me. Yeah, and I know they were
in a bush and there was no tree for them
to knock on. Yeah, next time you hear that, that's
what you're hearing. I'm telling you you're right off of
the distance. Yeah, I get it. You know, they do both,

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you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (01:28:53):
And I heard people seeing them hit rocks and things
like that, so they do utilize different things. I think
that there is some of that it is coming from
their bodies.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
It's spought on. You're absolutely spot on.

Speaker 6 (01:29:07):
And like I said, I experienced it in that way.
And you know when people see it and they're like,
I'm a knower, you know what I mean? Well, I
heard it, and I guess I'm a knowher when it
comes to the sound in the language, because I've heard
it like up close and personal. Yeah, you know, have
you ever been have you ever been surrounded, say, flanked

(01:29:28):
like that type of experience? Scary like that where you
feel like maybe you know, you're a little nervous, so
to speak.

Speaker 7 (01:29:34):
No, not in that sense.

Speaker 8 (01:29:35):
I have been places where I've gotten bad feelings.

Speaker 7 (01:29:38):
But even when we were out.

Speaker 8 (01:29:41):
With with our group, you know, Bigfoot World, there was
a time in which that we were in the forest,
were and we're doing this investigation in this really like
off the beaten path area, and we kept getting like
a smell, and so that was interesting because that's another thing.
Even if you're just out in the woods, you're hiking,

(01:30:02):
you need to be aware of what animals are out
there and what smells that they put out because and
look behind you, because I mean, we have panthers here, bobcats,
things like that, and they could totally jump out and
attack you.

Speaker 7 (01:30:16):
Same thing with coyotes or bears or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:30:18):
So you just have to be aware because there's other
things out there besides Bigfoot that you need to be
prepared for.

Speaker 7 (01:30:25):
Something happens.

Speaker 8 (01:30:26):
So we're picking up on the smell. Kathy and I
were smelling it the rest of the group, but we
were kind of in the front, and so I think
by the time maybe it got down that way, it
may be dissipated.

Speaker 7 (01:30:40):
But We're continuing on and we.

Speaker 8 (01:30:42):
Have this smell that we keep getting whiffs of, and
then we go off trail and we're checking out some things,
and that's when one of our researchers heard it pop
over here, heard like two cracks, and then another one
over here to and so it's getting dark. We're having

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these these things happen. We're hearing those wood knocks, air quotes,
and we're.

Speaker 7 (01:31:09):
Having all of this stuff happen. And then we wind up.

Speaker 8 (01:31:11):
Sitting there for a little while and then going back
to leave the area, and the smell is back again.
We keep catching with of this just disgusting odor, like
urine mixed with I don't know, it's just a really nasty,
nasty smell.

Speaker 7 (01:31:27):
So that might be the only time I.

Speaker 8 (01:31:29):
Could say, like maybe I've experienced we've experienced maybe being
flanked or followed by something, but that was really interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:31:38):
That same exact again, that same exact thing has happened
to us, and it's it's been in my backyard. And
Wojo when he first came along, he asked me, you know,
you have to get the smell, and I'm like, nah,
I never really smell anything, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
And I never thought of that.

Speaker 6 (01:31:49):
And you always hear about that awful musty dog, wet
dog smell blah blah blah. Yeah, And we were in
my backyard and I got this really really strong old
urine smell.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
It was nasty.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
It's nasty.

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
And we went in there one time at dusk and
we were.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Just having a day and I'm like, dude, we need
some nature. Let's just go turn this around. And we
walk in and went nar a path.

Speaker 6 (01:32:14):
I remember I lifted it was billy light out and
I lifted the firm because I saw it was all composts,
but this pot was doc mud. So that's I've learned
what to look for walking through compost constantly. And I
looked down and I go, dude, that's a print. And
I moved the fern like this and I went it
hit me. That smell hit me, and I said I
was calling wooju and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Dude, smell.

Speaker 6 (01:32:35):
I could smell it. I got that smell. You know,
I'm trying to tell them. And it went away instantly,
and I went, oh shit, and I knew what was
to happen. I knew I was gonna smell it again.
And sure enough, I smelled it again and I'm like, oh,
it's back. And just as soon as I said that,
it must what seconds later, oh something like that. I

(01:32:56):
can't remember exactly, but it was close to when I
finished that sentence. Yeah, the woods blew up about sixty
feet behind us. Something's running through the woods, massive, smashing trees,
crunching things, and you and I just stand up and go,
what off? I just screamed, what that's.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
My It's kind of my thing.

Speaker 6 (01:33:17):
I should get a copyright when I'm out there, dude,
that's squat's work. I can't help, but you're supposed to
be quiet so you can collect evidence.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
All here is what off? Ye don't know what it
is as so at the breakage, I mean that's what
like goes through you. You can feel that energy because
you can for heavy like footprints just slamming down. And
then yeah, silence, total silence. I'm like, what does that created?

(01:33:46):
All that chaos? The whole like tree line shaken, and
then it just that was it?

Speaker 6 (01:33:52):
Yeah, and then you hear And then I look at
Wodro and I go, now they're gonna come for him,
and he looks at me, he goes, what do you mean,
and then again like ten seconds, lady, he had this
whistle come through the woods as long as a train,
and I look right at him and I.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Go, well, there they are.

Speaker 8 (01:34:15):
You said, you're in that Bennington Triangle area, so that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
Bridgewater BRIDGEWA yeah, okay, you're in Vermont.

Speaker 8 (01:34:21):
With that, I was gonna say, yeah, that's Vermont Bridge Bridgewater.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Have you never had whistles?

Speaker 8 (01:34:28):
I know of other folks who have. I haven't experienced
ating whistles myself personally.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:34:33):
Yeah, it's a distraction tactic to get their little buddy
out of trouble that he just got himself caught up in,
you know what I mean. So you go like this
and then he gets to move. And how about infrasound?
How do you feel about in forsound?

Speaker 8 (01:34:47):
I love the theory of infrasound. I just had a
BFO investigator on Marcia Clark. She was with the USGS
for a long time and has been with the BFRO
for gosh, I don't know, probably at least two decades
if not more, and she does a lot of work
with that. She's got some awesome equipment and she's been

(01:35:07):
monitoring the responses that will happen when we're experiencing activity.
She's looking at the monitor and it shows infrasound. And
it's really interesting because I think some people are affected
by it. I saw somebody asked if I had ever
been zapped. I have not, but I know of other

(01:35:29):
people who have been that could have possibly been a
victim of that infrasound. So I think that that's how
it comes into play, is that they are able to
admit it and focus it on certain people or things.

Speaker 7 (01:35:43):
I don't know why. And yeah, I think it's I know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
I think that's great. And it's funny because you touched
on all this. I feel like I'm on your show,
am I on top floor, on the top floor the podcast?
What's going on here? All right? Somebody playing tricks on
me here?

Speaker 6 (01:35:59):
No, it's amazing, and because there's a lot of similarities
and interest in and experience and that's great. And yes,
I've been zapped and.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
I believe it now. I didn't believe it at first.

Speaker 6 (01:36:11):
Again, it was something that I had to really have
happened to me and get used to to the point
where I went to my doctor and.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Got blood work done.

Speaker 7 (01:36:19):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
It lasted between three and four days. I was on
my bed.

Speaker 6 (01:36:23):
I could have moved, And Wojo literally googled it finally
and was like, dude, you got to talk to the
Volgel brothers. I think he was zapped. And I'm like,
I'm like, I don't know, you think so I could
have moved. I could have moved. Was in bad I
was immobilizers hot to even get to the doctor to
get my blood work. And you know, no fevers, no
throwing up, like it was.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
Just no energy.

Speaker 6 (01:36:42):
It was I was on nothing zero, perfectly healthy, one
hundred percent healthy human. And it was right around the
time the thing ran by us. And then lo and
behold it happened again. Twice something's run by us, and
twice I was hit, and twice I was in my bed.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
For three to four days and couldn't move.

Speaker 6 (01:37:01):
And the second time was like, yeah, well I'm app
I'll see in a couple of days, like literally like
it just the same exact symptoms, the same exact time frame.
It was so crazy, man, And then Wojo experienced it
in the woods not too long ago, right, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
Well, actually yesterday was the most recent one.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
Oh yeah, you talked about that, Yes, I forgot about that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:21):
I'm sorry, it wasn't so sensitive to your feelings.

Speaker 4 (01:37:28):
Okay, this is weird.

Speaker 10 (01:37:29):
No, we have a gifting chair and where we were,
you know, we heard you know, something from a distance,
and that's when Elders said like, yeah, there's something to
your left.

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
And that's when it just hit me, like whoa, like
you just your chest, that's every the air, everything just
feels heavy. I don't know, it's like vertigo. Like I'm
just like trying to like focus and you can't focus.
So the medicine bag that we received, it's gonna the route,
you know, you just take a bite and he actually,

(01:38:03):
it does work. I didn't take it immediately. I took
it today because I was still. I was at work
today and I'm.

Speaker 11 (01:38:11):
Like, why am I like stumbling everywhere like I'm still
I don't know. Yeah, so I took a bite of
this route. Actually, once it's dissolved into you, it's feeling better.
But I'll tell you this stuff is real. And while
we're on topic, have you ever had any.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
Accounts of humming?

Speaker 7 (01:38:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Oh, we have it on recording.

Speaker 7 (01:38:36):
But that's so interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
Yeah, it is. It is like actually I think we
have two of them, two separate incidents of that we
do we do.

Speaker 6 (01:38:46):
And the second one I believe, well, the I think
it was the first or second it was with the
whole boots on the ground investigation. Yes, second that we
had in the woods. We were taking a break before
we left. Was he like to do quiet listening research too?
You do the new We do everything. When somebody says, oh,
you shouldn't do this, when we do that, when we
shouldn't do this, yeah, we do that too, and you
shouldn't do this.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Well, we do all of it. We do every bit
of it. And ones you do like, the ones you
don't like, the ones you agree with, the ones you
don't agree with.

Speaker 6 (01:39:11):
We do all of it. Because again, folks were in
a non scientific field. So nothing is right, nothing is wrong.
Just don't be an asshole, that's all. Just don't be
disrespectful to the woods, don't be disrespectful to the creatures,
don't be disrespectful to other researchers.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
Just don't be an asshole. That's all and nothing. There's
nothing wrong with what you're doing.

Speaker 6 (01:39:29):
If you want to light your ass on fire and
put it out with water, whole bigfoot comes over, I
don't know, whatever the hell you want to do. I
don't give a shit. There's nothing wrong in this that
you can do except be an asshole.

Speaker 4 (01:39:39):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:39:40):
And we're all standing there discussing in a circle. And
I literally it was crazy because was it five of us?

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Are six the Wojes?

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
Is he well, Joe? Five or six of us there
at that time?

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
You awake? Yeah, there's about six of us, Thank you, sir.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
Brook.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Do you see them drift off?

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
I thought I thought he went to sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
I thought it was his android.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
People like, it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Go with restreaming toilet water. No, I'm just messing with you.

Speaker 6 (01:40:14):
So there was like six of us and we were
in a circle, and I'll just tell you what I
heard and felt.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
Well, let's put this way. I heard exactly what I felt.
Does that sound weird?

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
It was?

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
It was.

Speaker 6 (01:40:27):
It was like like and it and it went from
one side of we were in a circle, and went
from one side of circle to the other, and it
came from that side, and everybody, six of us looked
over that way and then we all looked back into
the circle went did.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
You guys hear that?

Speaker 6 (01:40:40):
And I felt it, you know what I mean, like
all of them? I no, I felt it too, but
we didn't know what to say first. Did you hear
and feel that?

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:40:47):
It just seems odd, right, But it was a reaction
out of six researchers for.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
The same thing.

Speaker 7 (01:40:52):
It reverberated through you all through it.

Speaker 6 (01:40:54):
And then the one we played back, I heard it
in a different way that he heard it, but it
came out on the record both ways.

Speaker 7 (01:41:01):
Did you were you able to see what hurts that
was in?

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
Oh, that's a great question. No, we didn't do that,
David Woch, Why what's your theory?

Speaker 7 (01:41:09):
I just was curious.

Speaker 8 (01:41:12):
I'd be interested to know what frequency came through because
certain ones are and I do it every night. I
listen to certain frequency music at night because it's healing
and it helps with your body and your cells and stuff.
So I was just kind of curious, what because I mean,
frequency wars are a thing. I mean they our government
has technology like look into Havana syndrome. That one's really interesting.

(01:41:36):
It's not big, but related, but it's really interesting. And
Havana syndrome is essentially what happened done in Cuba at
our embassy. Different workers who worked at the United States Embassy,
they were all reporting these zapped like symptoms and they
were hearing this hum and this humming thing. So they
realized that there's potentially this technology that can direct it's

(01:42:00):
basically almost like a direct energy weapon, but with that
hum and with that frequency, and you can weaponize certain frequencies.
When you look at water and the frequencies around it.
That's why the things we say curious specific frequency and
it's it's charged. I would be really curious if you
were able to see just you know what that came
through us and then and then look that up and

(01:42:21):
see you know what that correlates.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Do. Yeah, No, I think that's brilliant.

Speaker 6 (01:42:25):
I think that's brilliant because I do have an app
you can put that in and it shows the hurts
stuff like that, because well all of them do really
as far as the eight goes.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
But I think that's a brilliant idea.

Speaker 6 (01:42:36):
And for such a young person, I'm pretty surprised at
how where your mind goes, you know what I mean.
Sorry to bring up age, but no, seriously, because it
takes a long No, no, it takes a long time
sometimes too.

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
You know, you get your experiences. When you get your experience,
I think it nanny gave it to you. Really.

Speaker 7 (01:42:52):
Yeah, but I love learning.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
I can see that.

Speaker 8 (01:42:56):
I don't I don't think. I don't think I'm ever fulfilled.
So I love learning about all kinds of things. And
the more you know, the more you know, and you
don't know what you don't know. And then I always say,
like with this field, once you find out one thing,
it only gives you ten more questions to look into.
So I'm constantly constantly learning, and I think that's a

(01:43:16):
that's a big part of it is you have to
be willing to learn and be willing to you know.

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
Be patient, Yeah, be patient, and change your learning as
you go, right, change the knowledge, change the.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
Knowledge that you gain. And don't be stubborn on your
on your theories, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:43:30):
And exactly don't stay in echo chambers. You have to
be willing to listen to you know, a wide variety
of thoughts and opinions and research for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:43:42):
Yeah, so yeah, you're right, you're right on with that.
And you know, it kind of leads me to a
couple of things. Because you've got such a vast mind
and sense. What is your favorite piece of evidence you
ever collected?

Speaker 8 (01:43:52):
Ready, my favorite piece of evidence I ever collected besides
my sighting. I would have to say some footprints I
found in our research area.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
Okay. And when was your sighting?

Speaker 7 (01:44:05):
My sighting was the last November, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
And was it in your research area?

Speaker 3 (01:44:10):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
Why does that happen like that?

Speaker 7 (01:44:12):
Probably three or four hundred miles.

Speaker 8 (01:44:14):
Away, but still in Florida, but just very far right right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
And you said it was a little ways away from.

Speaker 7 (01:44:23):
You, right, mm hmm. Yeah, I was up in the
Panhandle when I had my sighting.

Speaker 6 (01:44:27):
Yeah, right, And but but I mean it was a
little distance away from your your eyes. In other words,
you didn't get the forty fourth high five that.

Speaker 8 (01:44:34):
I want, right exactly, but in hindsight, it actually it
was pretty close.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
But yeah, so so what all right?

Speaker 6 (01:44:43):
So what was the most distinct feature that you picked
out during your sighting?

Speaker 8 (01:44:47):
During the sighting was the size of the eyes? They
were huge, Yeah, they were huge.

Speaker 7 (01:44:52):
And then the motion.

Speaker 8 (01:44:55):
Of how it went up down up down in this
just a really unnatural, really the fast, freaky way.

Speaker 7 (01:45:03):
It was so creepy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
All right. See that's when you said that earlier.

Speaker 6 (01:45:08):
I wasn't putting that together because but now that we've
had this conversation. I put it together because the movement
all right, So I didn't have I don't have a
no doubter, right, So, but what I saw going through
the woods had weird. It was like, like I said,
it looked like it almost was reaching behind itself and
bringing the little trees to cover it, not to grab momentum.

(01:45:30):
It wouldn't care if it just ran straight through it,
but it was almost side to side and it was
like a I tell her, but it's like a welcome mat,
the black rubber welcome mats.

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
That's all I really saw. It was that, but I
could tell like there was.

Speaker 6 (01:45:42):
Something swinging and then the trees were kind of flopping
an extra hide.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
Like this behind it. And it's funny because do you
find the more you get away from it?

Speaker 6 (01:45:50):
And I think that's the same for everybody, the more
detail you get, right, So, did you get more detail
out of your sighting further away from it or up
close to it?

Speaker 8 (01:45:59):
Everything happened really quickly and we were pretty close to it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:02):
Right, So, but what I'm saying is in the moment,
did you collect all that detail or did you were
you able to decipher and get more detail a week
later at home.

Speaker 7 (01:46:14):
I think.

Speaker 8 (01:46:15):
Actually I got more detail once kind of talking to
other researchers, and I did go back immediately to the
camp and I tried to draw what I saw on
my you know, on my notes app just really quick
while it was fresh in my mind. And it is
interesting because I think in that moment, the adrenaline does
kick in. But my friend Maryan, who was there with me,

(01:46:36):
she was like, because I said, at one point when
I had seen the lights, I was like, are we
back at the camp already? Like you said you knew
some people had lived back there, and You're like, is
that their house?

Speaker 7 (01:46:45):
So I was really confused and I didn't even remember.

Speaker 8 (01:46:47):
But at one point I guess she said, I said,
are those headlights? Because that's how bright it was. And
this is kind of my really crappy drawing that I did,
But this is the gentleman who was in front of
the trail, and then these were the eyes that we saw,
and then these were the trees and that's kind of
the trail going.

Speaker 6 (01:47:05):
So okay, So and that's what you saw, and so
you're not an.

Speaker 7 (01:47:10):
Honest well I mean maybe not not on my.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
I bet you are. I bet she is, dude, hold on,
here we go. Yeah, here it is.

Speaker 7 (01:47:23):
I do have this really wicked skull that I painted once.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
Oh my god, see that. I love it. That's good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
And when did you have?

Speaker 6 (01:47:33):
No, No, when did you discover you could sing? Is
that a whole life thing?

Speaker 7 (01:47:37):
Probably since I was a kid, just because you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
Were singing as a kid, and then on so many
went whoa wait a minute?

Speaker 7 (01:47:44):
Yeah? And then you know my mother, she was very
encouraging of it.

Speaker 8 (01:47:49):
I actually tried out for American Idol when I was
like sixteen. But it's nothing like what you see on TV.
I think I had dreams of being a singer of
like a rock star, before being like a big foot.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
Really yeah, play instruments?

Speaker 7 (01:48:04):
No, I just sing this sing same favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
Song to sing?

Speaker 7 (01:48:08):
Oh god, you know the one.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
There's always the one. Everybody else just depends on the day.
I just Saturday night at six o'clock. What's your favorite
song to sing? Now?

Speaker 7 (01:48:20):
All right, well here's a good one. Uh Devil Like
Me by Rainbow Kitton Surprise, All right, give me some
Oh gosh, right now.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
That nobody's watching, just.

Speaker 7 (01:48:32):
Does this was a Bigfoot show? That's the voice?

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
No, you know what's funny?

Speaker 6 (01:48:38):
I love talking to humans and we have a lot
of bigfoot conversation, we always do.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
But I like to know the researcher and how they think,
you know, like.

Speaker 6 (01:48:46):
Gary Fabian last week, she had a very personal story
with us, and I just love it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
I just love being friends with people.

Speaker 6 (01:48:51):
And I think it's amazing that it adds to the talent, right,
it adds to the person, it adds to the research
or when you see these other them and I just
think it's important.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
And you saw it, and your voice is kick ass.
And my daughter is an amazing singer and she was
in mass art up in Boston.

Speaker 6 (01:49:08):
She's an artist as well, and she's just insane. The
girl's insane. And we actually went up to it wasn't
American Idol What's the Voice? No, it wasn't American Idol
in Boston, but she was thirteen, so she was too
young really, but they got to listen to her and
she did amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
So yeah, I just love it. What's your what's your
favorite song to do? Again?

Speaker 7 (01:49:29):
That's awesome? I said Devil Like Me by Rainbow Kitten
Surprise you.

Speaker 6 (01:49:34):
Can you can you give us like one verse of it?
Oh God, I don't mind putting me on the spot.
I won't apologize, so woo will I wouldn't. I wouldn't do.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
That to you.

Speaker 7 (01:49:47):
I would all right, let's see seven six, five, four
three two one.

Speaker 8 (01:49:53):
Everybody's got name, everybody's gotten number.

Speaker 7 (01:49:58):
Seven six, three friends five for the tube bus. There's
too much and we're only one of it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
That is badass, dude, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
Oh seriously, this is what I thought. I'm like, Yeah,
just sing this.

Speaker 6 (01:50:14):
I got pictures of her by I can't buy, and
she just busts it out and and and she has.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
Those little fears.

Speaker 6 (01:50:19):
Yeah, but you guys already know what you can do,
and you just break through it, right and just somebody
just do that and just have that tone and and
just have fun with it. I so wish I could
do that. I do wish I could do that. That
is such a true truth. The truest of gifts is singing.
I don't care what anybody says.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
Men. You can you can draw you want, you can
run around a little in the woods, look for big Foot.
You can be a digital creator. But when you can sing, man,
it's just different.

Speaker 8 (01:50:45):
Singing is the best I put on a lot of
good car concerts these days.

Speaker 6 (01:50:50):
Right, you should do YouTube live in the in the car, Yeah,
and just put it you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Get you would get like a million viewers. Oh, it
would be so and then you get the ones stop
saying while you're driving you got to cause an accident.

Speaker 7 (01:51:03):
Yeah, well it'll be like that carpool karaoke.

Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
Yeah, yes, yes, but different but.

Speaker 8 (01:51:08):
Different but big foot related. We only sing bigfoot related songs.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
Around the songs. Yeah, that would be epic. Dude.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
Now oops. Also, I'm sure you do what you do
whoops out in the woods.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
I do.

Speaker 8 (01:51:27):
I do, And you know what's funny is and well,
now that I do podcasting, I'm trying not to. I'm
trying to save my voice. I know that sounds crazy,
but I do do whoops. And we were out with
this group and uh, the guy Jeff, who was with
me when I had this sighting, he knew that I
that I do whoops and have done like hows and

(01:51:48):
stuff before. And I'm like we were walking a live like,
so is anybody gonna do a do a call?

Speaker 7 (01:51:54):
And he was like, we'll writing on you and I
was like, oh damn it. So he's like take it away.
Oh god, no, what my neighbors would kill me.

Speaker 4 (01:52:06):
Really love it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
So did you ever think of sitting out in the
woods and just singing?

Speaker 8 (01:52:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:52:14):
I actually have had. That's something we're thinking about.

Speaker 6 (01:52:20):
Yeah, so listen, you got to get one of those
little little ring bulls, the music bowls.

Speaker 7 (01:52:24):
We have it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:25):
We do that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:26):
Damn, this is a vibe, man, this is a vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
I'm telling you, girl, my.

Speaker 7 (01:52:30):
Girl Kathy, shout out to her again. I'm telling you,
she gets that. And I've tried it.

Speaker 8 (01:52:36):
We had this camp out and we were doing it
and I was trying like hell to get this singing
bowl to go and I couldn't do it.

Speaker 7 (01:52:41):
She gets it.

Speaker 8 (01:52:43):
She is cranking it. I mean just it's it's fantastic.
The way that she can get that thing going is awesome.
So yeah, we utilize that.

Speaker 6 (01:52:51):
Yeah, but I think if you mixed that in with
your voice, yeah and singing that kind of you know
what you gotta look.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
I mean, I think you got a little bluesy sound
to you, right, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:53:01):
I think like alternative, Yeah, yeah you could.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
I think you could have a little bit of both
and be bored aligned with it.

Speaker 6 (01:53:05):
But I think my point is you could take anything
and just kind of stream it, you know what I mean,
where it's just kind of flowing, you know, I think
that flow would attract well.

Speaker 8 (01:53:13):
And like you were saying, with humming, kind of like
that ohs and oohs and things.

Speaker 7 (01:53:19):
Yeah, I just thought us.

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
Something, Yeah, let's compare frequencies.

Speaker 6 (01:53:24):
What if we get the humming frequency and then we
compare it to your singing frequency.

Speaker 7 (01:53:28):
That'd be cool. Or I even think some of the
indigenous songs.

Speaker 8 (01:53:32):
And things would be interesting to learn, or maybe like
an old Viking song, who knows?

Speaker 4 (01:53:36):
Switch it up?

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Do you think you're associated with the Vikings?

Speaker 7 (01:53:39):
Could be do you never know? You know who knows?

Speaker 4 (01:53:43):
Well?

Speaker 8 (01:53:43):
I say they find rooms or yeah, yeah, things like that,
So anything's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
No, I'm a Viking, nice templar guy.

Speaker 4 (01:53:51):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (01:53:52):
Yeah, oh my god, that's I'm obsessed. I'm just like
I can't, I won't move. It's like little kid watching Bluey.
It's just it's just a mess. It's a mess in here.

Speaker 4 (01:54:01):
What were you gonna sayjo Oh No, I was just saying,
like the indigenous.

Speaker 8 (01:54:07):
Flu Yeah, well, that's that's one thing that we've we've done,
and that was the night that we had that red.

Speaker 7 (01:54:16):
For lack of light, eyeshine whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:54:19):
A girl who was with us, she had downloaded some
uh you know, Native American flutes, and it's so funny
because it was like playing this really kind of chill
flute music and then all of a sudden, I guess,
the track flipped and now all of a sudden we
had like war song come on.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
Cut off killed.

Speaker 7 (01:54:39):
Well, I think I don't know how they got on there.

Speaker 6 (01:54:41):
Yeah, No, I think it's funny because we just tried
Mary Fabian on from Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project and she's amazing, amazing,
amazing story and she talked about the show far and Right,
and it was and they one of them got wasn't
just said the guy got attacked was really aggressive after
hearing the show far and so don't.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
Don't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:55:05):
But I think the elegant sounds line up with maybe
what you're going to get.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
And as a result, it's the end of days.

Speaker 4 (01:55:12):
And that's when they all when they play that, all
the Bigfoots all respond and coming right to you. And
and what she says, that guy blew that flute one
more time and he probably would have ripped us apart.

Speaker 8 (01:55:25):
Well, and that's what's the tough part, and I do
see some folks arguments on it, on doing provocations is
that we don't know what we're saying and we don't
know how they are anticipating it and receiving it. So
that is a really good point.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:55:42):
I've heard some people who are very adamant no, no yelling,
no anything, which I get.

Speaker 6 (01:55:48):
Yeah, and we get the same thing with with our
gift and chair because we leave food and stuff like that.
But we, in my I think everybody's research areas are
kind of different, you know what I mean, So.

Speaker 7 (01:55:56):
We everybody has a different approach.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
Yeah, we do. We do.

Speaker 6 (01:55:59):
And I started out with gifting, like I said, almost
a decade ago. I don't I got a piece of
liking back for a gift and when it first happened,
and it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
Was really really awesome. So I believe in doing all
that stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:56:10):
And I think as long again, as long as we're
being respectful, you know, when yelling, Hey, yeah bro, you
know what I mean, We're not doing stupid you know,
Boston language and stuff out in the woods, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:56:21):
You got to be nice out there. Ask them where
they packed their cave? Is it in the havin yard.

Speaker 6 (01:56:27):
You know what I mean, stuff like that, you know,
but I think it's essential, So so real quick before
we go, because it's late and I don't want to
keep you and you're gonna go in Florida and be
like over to over to what's the name of the place,
Mojo's barring grill?

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
Is that what he said? Mojo?

Speaker 6 (01:56:43):
That's right, Jo, I gotta head out over to Mojo's
borrowed grill when nobody goes.

Speaker 1 (01:56:49):
No more, nobody knows your name?

Speaker 6 (01:56:50):
Back to you, Susan, Sorry, so so no, what is it?

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
What is before we leave? What is uh? Brook?

Speaker 6 (01:57:01):
Bolan's favorite technique to use to try to get skunk
gype to notice where you are or big.

Speaker 8 (01:57:08):
I think just talking and being yourself. I think that
they're very curious. One of my favorite things to do
is find a good location scouted out and then come
back at night and post up, do a small fire
and just kind of be yourself, be normal, be curious,
and they will come out there.

Speaker 6 (01:57:26):
So you just you light a fire after doc and
with no snake boots on, but you'll have you'll have
a gun.

Speaker 7 (01:57:34):
Oh yeah, I care.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
Yeah, She's like, yeah, he's a southern girl.

Speaker 1 (01:57:37):
He's packing and you do you have a friend, like
somebody with you? Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm never alone.

Speaker 6 (01:57:44):
All right, So she knows the rule never alone, right,
She's packing heat for the other ones, because all kinds
out of the animals down there, you have to.

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
You go and light a fire and you just sit
and talk and see if they come in.

Speaker 8 (01:57:55):
Sometimes things like that, yeah, or just you know, just
conducting yourself in a really them away because we've heard
things while we've been talking, and then we'll get quiet
and the activity will stop. And then once you start
talking again, that's when you start to hear the hows
or the tree breaks and things like that. So you
got to just be natural and not act like you're

(01:58:16):
out there searching. I think if you put yourself like, okay,
you have a base camp. Maybe you're camping out there
and you have your base camp, but if you're going
somewhere different, they anticipate us to be at campgrounds and stuff.
I still think that they're curious, but when you're going
into their areas and you're doing things, they're like, wait
a minute, why are they here. They're not supposed to
be here.

Speaker 7 (01:58:35):
This is late.

Speaker 8 (01:58:36):
What are these crazy people doing what's happening. I think
they're very curious creatures, so putting yourself in their environment
is number one.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
Yeah, I think it's great.

Speaker 6 (01:58:45):
I think Bojo, you and I are complete whimps because
we go out into a pretty little forest. We don't
have any of the animals that she deals with. Okay,
we haven't been out at night yet. I mean no,
not yet, but overnight we need to do it over
and broadcast it live.

Speaker 4 (01:59:02):
Have you done overnights?

Speaker 1 (01:59:03):
Overnights?

Speaker 7 (01:59:04):
Oh yeah, Oh my god, dude. Yeah, and we do
cowboy camping a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
What the hell you just throw something down and lay down.

Speaker 7 (01:59:12):
Oh well, cowboy camping.

Speaker 8 (01:59:14):
You know, essentially I could bring a chair, or you
could bring a hammock or something that laid down on
and you stay out all night long.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
She opened up an old can of beans with that
little weird can.

Speaker 7 (01:59:24):
Honestly, I listen, tell the truth.

Speaker 8 (01:59:27):
I know that's what I was gonna say, because I
know if people have been on camp outs with me,
sometimes I've just opened up like a can of chili
and eat.

Speaker 7 (01:59:34):
It and they'll be like, do you want to heat
that up? I'm like, no, I'm fine. I used to
eat spaghettios just right out of the can.

Speaker 4 (01:59:39):
R I all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:59:40):
I love those stupid things that I can't That's how.

Speaker 4 (01:59:42):
I eat them cold spaghettios. I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
I gotta even like to waste my time eating them up.

Speaker 4 (01:59:46):
And so you're gonna heat that up?

Speaker 7 (01:59:48):
I'm like, no, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:59:50):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:59:50):
So she must have a cowboy hat on everything, cause
that's like old school billy the kids ship open up
a can of beans and just sit to eat by
the fire, you know, saying right boch oh, yeah, it's
getting doc at Wojo's house. All right, cool, So I'm
gonna let you go. But I want to know. I
want the world to know everybody worldwide.

Speaker 1 (02:00:07):
That's right, worldwide, baby doc Round TV. Sorry, busted a
no commercial. We upload the Spotify ihet it's all everywhere.
Everybody's gonna everybody's Where do they find you?

Speaker 8 (02:00:18):
Well, they can find me at all the same places.
Just look up a Dark Florida Podcasts. Wherever you listen
to podcasts, we are there. And if you want to
interact with me or the show, feel free to give
me a follow. I'm pretty active over on Instagram at
Dark Florida podcast You can see all the behind the
scenes stuff that I'm getting into and my research and
boots on the ground stuff that I've got going on.

(02:00:39):
And I am over at Facebook. I have a dark
Flori to group, so feel free to interact over there.

Speaker 6 (02:00:44):
Also, Yep, Instagram. Instagram, you'll see a lot of cool,
Like you'll get an idea of what she's actually doing. Yeah,
because that's what I did when I was like.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
Oh, wait, what the hell you doing? Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:00:54):
What the hell? Oh? Oh she is a docot. Get
out of it, girl, You know what I mean? Girl,
you got to go, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (02:01:03):
Like, it's crazy. Do you have a specific day or
night when you do your podcast? I know you record
an upload, so do you have a night when you
upload them or just.

Speaker 8 (02:01:10):
Well, lately I've been releasing them on Thursdays, so Thursday
seems to be the day.

Speaker 4 (02:01:15):
Okay, cool, But well, if they're following.

Speaker 7 (02:01:17):
You, he's gotten pretty consistent with Thursdays.

Speaker 6 (02:01:20):
Yeah, And if they're following you, they're gonna know because
you're gonna say, hey, a new episode's coming up about
the drop blah blah blah, So everybody will know where
to find you. So that's awesome. So let me end
by saying this blew my mind. It blew my mind.
The similarities in the research, the research starts, daries techniques,
blew my mind. Absolutely. I just appreciate you. Thank you

(02:01:41):
for singing for us a little bit, so are you.
Wojo put you on the spot. He didn't mean to
do that. He'll never do it again. I'll have a
talk a little about that.

Speaker 4 (02:01:48):
This is ridiculous, Wojo.

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
No.

Speaker 6 (02:01:50):
I just wanted to hear it because I think it
was awesome, and the world should hear it because I
think it's a gift.

Speaker 1 (02:01:54):
So thank you for joining us side on bant Richie.
Everybody on the side having.

Speaker 6 (02:02:04):
Billy No No, I think it was Chillian beans anyways,
but everybody on the side, it was awesome tonight. I
saw you guys all conversing with each other, so I
didn't get to a ton of questions because I noticed
you guys were enjoying each other's company.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
And that's really what this podcast is all about.

Speaker 6 (02:02:18):
This is about the community that Wojo and I and
all my producer and everybody on the side has created.

Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
We want a nice, happy, safe community.

Speaker 6 (02:02:25):
We all can just have some fun and get to
know each other and become friends and come up with
new ideas.

Speaker 1 (02:02:29):
Right, So follow me on.

Speaker 6 (02:02:30):
TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube all banter with Richie B.
Hit that Notify I button on the YouTube channel because
you will come out in the woods with us. And
last what we have eight six hundred and twenty people
and then I think before that was like five thousand
and three thousand. A lot of people are getting involved, man,
and it's just awesome. So I want you to be
part of that. So make sure you hit that notify

(02:02:52):
button and check out our techniques and have fun with it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:54):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:02:55):
Brooke Moreland was an absolute gift tonight. As Wojo would say,
thank you for being here once again, and I love
you baby Jack, I love you Mama, and I want
Waljoe to get his out of here because basically that's
what he does.

Speaker 4 (02:03:06):
Hey, thank you all for being on here. Thank you Brooker. Hey,
we love you guys, and yes we are at home
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