S04E03 Dark Realm,Banter & Chill

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Good morning, Welcome to Banter with Richie B.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Live somewhere beyond the beaten path, beyond the whispers in
the woods and the stories around the fire lurks one
of the greatest mysteries of our time, Bigfoot. For decades,
legends have echoed through the forests, footprints left behind, sightings

(00:39):
that defy logic, and questions that demand answers. But this
isn't just folklore. This is a call to investigate, to explore,
and to uncover the truth. Banter with Richie B isn't
just another show. It's a community of movement, a hub
for genuine research, real conversations, and boots on the ground discovery.

(01:04):
Every episode dives deep into evidence, expert interviews, filled investigations,
and the drive to seek what others say is impossible.
If you believe in asking questions, if you're ready to
get your boots dirty, and if you think the unknown
deserves more than just a passing glance, then follow Banner

(01:26):
with Richie B. Stay informed, stay sharp, and maybe just
maybe be the one who finds the truth hiding in
the trees.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I love you, baby Jack. I want you guys to
keep climbing. I love you Mama, or just going to
get us out of here, because that's what he does.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yes, let's good morning, Welcome to Banter with Richie Bee live.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
These Yep, there was something going on here.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Behind us after the trees were fucking moving everywhere. Yeah, bro,
goosebumps mad at you with me? We looked this way.
It was not like this. Welcome to Banter with Richie
be Yo. What's up everybody? Oh yeah, that's Riady back. Yeah,

(02:55):
we sit for a while. I'm live. We're gonna say, hijo.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Hey, what is up everybody?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
For some reason, I am extra fire up tonight. Could
have been those rock stars. I have no idea. I
don't advertise on this show. Anyways, back to.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
You, Bob.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Hey, listen, man, we got a kick ass show lined up.
We got a kick ass month lined up. I gotta
tell you, man, we got a cup more off after
these dudes. These dudes here, that's what we gotta call
them now. I think these dudes. Hey, these dudes here,
Doc Round TV is in the house. Whoa, let's go.
I'm pretty by up about that ship. Yeah, I got

(03:48):
a big lipper in the night. I don't really give
a shit. So yeah, so I'm gonna bring Wojo right
in and we're gonna get after it. Okay, we'll do
a little advertising, pop it off, talk about doc Realm,
and then we're gonna get a guest right in here,
and we're gonna talk about all kinds of things. Man.
That's the one thing I love about these dudes. Man,
they're so open minded, that down to earth. They're funny.

(04:09):
They enjoy life. You can tell they enjoy what they're doing.
Except Joe. Joe's a little bit of a mystery. But
we'll figure that out, you know what I mean. He
just kind of sinks down in his chair. He's like
what I was like, Hey, man, what's that? What what
you want? Well, that's the other two about them. We'll
figure this ship out. It's a mystery. So let's get
Wojoe in here and let's get to getting and we'll

(04:32):
talk about my outfit in short time, don't worry, very
short time. Waljo. Where'd you go? Wojo? Where'd you go?
Where'd you go? Where'd you go? Here?

Speaker 4 (04:42):
He is rich? Who's here tonight?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I don't even know their name? Steve, Mike and Bob
And they're from where Steve, Mike and Bob's house, dockroundmm.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
We're Feller's brother the Bomb.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm pope.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Look who we got. We got some power to night baby,
let's go all. I'm I'm fighting. That's right, I'm talking loud.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
My neighbors they love me.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Oh dude, I know your neighborhood's pretty tight. Man. They like,
what is that dude doing?

Speaker 7 (05:21):
Now?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
What is imagine if I hung out over your house
all the time? What a mess? Oh? What a f
Yeah right, What's like?

Speaker 4 (05:31):
What is this guy on? I though he's just on
Live baby, that's oh yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Like, yo, check it out. Man. First of all, as
you know, you can find us on doc Round TV.
Finish it, finish it. Every time I see that TV.
It doesn't matter when I say it. You always have
to say it. Remember always whips in the woods. Dude.
The other day, I waited. I'm like, he didn't say it.

Speaker 8 (05:55):
I had to say it because I'm hearing freak gets
something walking the hi guts.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
I get scared.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
We got we got thousands of thousands of people watching
our show.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
I know, so things are going on. Rich it's with BP.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Shoot, I'm telling you. Within the last month, less than
a month, we've had over eighty thousand views Out in
the Woods eighty point one thousand views.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Man, a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Man, it's all my feet feel every view. Like I
said in the group, right, the legs just hurting. No
check us out. Go over to doc realnd TV on
every Roku television all over the world, every Amazon fire
stick all over the world. Go get that four ninety
nine a month. You're gonna have all kinds of shit.
And I am going to drag these dudes, the dudes
up here because we got gonna do exclusive stuff for them.

(06:39):
I want to get out in the woods and it's
just doc Round TV, it Man, doc Round TV banter
and chill. That's what that's all about. Also, don't forget
to follow me on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, all big foot
banter with Richie b and of course YouTube. Hit that
notify button so you know when we're going in the woods,
when all the crazy shit happens. The structures we found

(06:59):
yesterday the biggest letter I've ever seen. I'm gonna pull
that up at some point tonight in the show and
ask the guys about it. You know what I mean,
Let's test some big Foot knowledge on these dudes, Let's
see what they got after we find out about them,
because I want you know, I love sharing our evidence
with our with our guests, but it's always about It's
about the guests too, you know what I mean. But
I don't want to make it about us, but I

(07:20):
kind of want their opinions. I want their thoughts and theories, right,
And so it's important to share with as many people
as you can openly and freely and see if you
can get different insights, you know what I mean. So
let's say hi to our family here, and that's what
that is what we got as a family.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
This is that's right?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Is our producer the first one in here to all right? Listen,
producer listen. Just like when you work some where you
can't be you can't be part of like the promotions,
you can't be the first one in here, right, I
mean I feel that fair? Right, this guy, Jay Lynch says,
I don't know what that guy is. We love you,

(07:57):
corn Bread, Kurt w Is in the house, w my sister,
my love. No, I love you Mary Newburgh You wrong?

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Mary?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Oh yeah, I tell you. I share the story with
Mary Knub. But a few times on this show right yep. Yeah, yeah,
like when I was like, like, next Sunday is twenty
eight years sober for me? Right?

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Congratulations?

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Man, Oh thank you, bro. Day at a time, we're
out there yet You're always wait till the day, but
thank you. Yep. Mary and her husband at the time, Steve.
I had nowhere to go. I was homeless, and you
know I'd go to their house and sleep on the
couch or you know, cause a ruckus some short at
some point, you know what I mean. But yeah, Mary
was always there for me, always, always always had an

(08:41):
open door. M uh Tyler for twenty man, what's up?
Tyler for twenty? What's up? I was going to behave
himself tonight.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Ty had to give him a ten second time out
last night.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, he overdosed on Fluffingota.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Look at this, Oh Danny man, check it brought check
it bro. This is for you Boo Ella's mbie.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I got goosebumps, bro with my hair standing up.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Uh yeah, what a gift. He's in the tent tonight. Man,
he's got some hawk leaves if you know, you know, yeah,
take out bigfoot Dwolf. Always good to see him. Always
love when he adds his insight. When we're live, Big
d big d wa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, Bro,

(09:29):
you're trying to get us kicked off YouTube. Can't yellow
Big d Well, big Foot do up big, I just
try to.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
I just listen. I'll say whatever I want to say.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Big d is me, Dude, the studio is gonna get
so fucking turned upside down and less than we're gonna
gonna like we're gonna have to put down plastic. Seriously,
Mantin's in the house, Mine's got mine's got all kinds
of things going on up there? What's up? Mighty mc fly,

(10:01):
You guys are tight. You get to call him Maddy.
I called him Maddy once. He said, don't call me mady.
You He told me it reminded him of the gym teacher,
and the gym teacher used to make him turn and cough.
And I said, Jim, teachers don't do that, and he
goes they don't. I said, oh, oh, oh, uncle Maddy cough,

(10:27):
Uncle Maddy.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Great to see him.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
So, yes, it is, yes, it is make me cry, bro,
I can feel it coming. So Denny, you mind if
I share just a little bit I want Denny to
come on the show and share a lot of the
story that we have. We have an amazing story in
connection with Denny. For me, it's been a gift in
part of my healing with losing my son. I don't

(10:55):
know if I can do this, dude, mm hmm, so
excuse me. I just wanted him to answer me if
it's okay. So, Danny lost his daughter to cancer and

(11:17):
she was ten and her name's Ella, and I've been
reluctant to bring it up without him because I want
to set things off, you know what I mean, because
it does come with PTSD. So, so September is is
childhood cancer, child cancer Awareness Month, right pediatric, as Denny

(11:40):
said right there, awareness month. So I want you all
to be aware of that. And then it's a thing,
you know what I mean, And people go through it
and people feel it. And we believe that his daughter,
Ella brought Denny to us, and we believe that that
she knows Jack. So it's a whole thing. And when
Denny comes on the show sometime, we'll share that remarkable

(12:02):
story with his no coincidences, and it'll blow your mind,
because it still blows my mind right down to both
of our friends. I posted, you know, the Q forty four.
Matt Quigley passed away about in twenty twenty. Yeah, and
he had a hot condition and he had a young
family and he's thirty eight. He was thirty eight and

(12:24):
I posted Q forty four and he's like, what's that
post about? So anyways, long story short. He's at the
grave of his friend who played softball like Matt did,
and his number is forty four. So it was pretty wild,
right guys. So yeah, so that's that's the story there.
So get out your gear, whatever you gotta do. Check

(12:45):
out hashtag Alazami, find out anything you can about it. Donations.
They work very closely. Him and his wife work very
closely with the Jimmy Fund. It's very important that we
all work together and surround and support one another. Okay,
So September is Pediatric cancer Awareness month, so be aware.
Please talk to people. You know what I mean, reach

(13:09):
out to people you know, be a voice, be ears,
listen you know what I mean. I love Denny Man.
Denny knows he'd call me three sixty five for life
man twenty four to seven. So I got through that
part of it. I don't know if I'll get through
when we sit down with him, because it's tough because
it does trigger things. But so yeah, Denny, we're here
with you, your wife, also your other daughter also, we're

(13:31):
here with you. You guys are not alone. We love
that you were brought to us. We love that you're
part of the family now. And thank you so much.
In Ella, thank you yep our brother man in Ella, yep, yep.
All right, cool, let's do this. Man. You guys wanna
you guys want to meet the dudes behind docround all

(13:52):
but one, by the way, I'm bad. We're gonna have separately.
He's like, he's like the Bobby Lee of Doc Realm TV.
They work together with the tech stuff, right, And we're
gonna have b. D. Morgan on. And he's Native Americans,
so he's gonna share a lot of stuff with us
about Bigfoot and things like that. So I'm gonna schedule
him on the show. But these are these are three

(14:12):
here are kind of the out front face of the
of the TV Doc Realm TV. We appreciate them for
having us on and welcoming them, welcoming us to Doc
Realm TV. And it's just it's been fun to be
part of it. We don't get to hang out with
them as much as I would like to because of
course we're all busy and uh so let's get these
guys in here and now let's have ourselves some fun.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Man.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
All right, Let's see who do I want first? Let's
see ladies first. Hey, what is no? That's a guy
hanging Hey, yeah, well twenty five, bro, that's nothing unusual.

(14:54):
Shut up, I'm gonna stretch your eyes out. Stop it.
Look look at look at it, look at them all.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
You know what's funny is when you guys were saying
where's he at and what's going on? I was in
the damn background listening to all the stuff you guys
were talking about. Remember that. I remember that.

Speaker 8 (15:18):
I was about to play your outside of the studio,
signing autographs and passing out T shirts.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
I'll be with you guys in just a minute.

Speaker 9 (15:25):
Just we had to go run in the backyard to
get away from the paparazzi.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
You know what, It's tough, man, It's tough, but you
know what, somebody's got to do it.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
No man, listen, I am this is long overdue, gentlemen,
long overdue. Boots on the ground is another thing that's
way long overdue because we're super excited to be part
of background TV. We always are. And let's say I
realize who you are now, Oh is that Sam?

Speaker 9 (15:53):
Well, that's because I made the comment in the in
the chat, I was like, give me Jim. Teachers aren't
supposed to do that, and now so violated.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Or excited?

Speaker 6 (16:04):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, yeah, my Jim teacher would have got quite a surprise.
I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
Hey, guys, before we get going the stuff that you
were talking about earlier with the T shirts and the
hats and all that, dark Rum TV wants to donate
a hundred bucks. So if you can let me know
how we can do that to support what you guys
got going on.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
So thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
Man, message us, message us, and so I can get
the link or whatever we want to give back as well.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
So thank you so much. I appreciate that it was
funny because it was just kind of impromptu. I had
this wicked vibe about it tonight, and I remember I
was thinking about it all day and I went over
to my well, my clothes came out of the wash
and stuff, and I'm going through them, and I'm like,
I held it up and I went, oh my god,
all right, that's what I'm feeling, so boom, And I
talked to Wojoe. I said, I'm wearing my geat tonight

(16:57):
and He's like, I'm in and here we are. So no,
thank you so much for that, man, Thank you so
much for that, Jester, Denny. If you still out there, Danny,
shoot me as something on Messenger so I can let
them know exactly where they can donate to Ela Zamie
and cancer research, childhood cancer research. So thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Well, we'll get some shirts and and whatever. I'll probably
wear the shirt white doesn't he used to look good
on the on the Big Boy. But I'll definitely wear
it and support it for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Hey, man, looks good in the kid You're gonna be
You're gonna have more.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
Paparazzi from about here down.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
So yeah, there's a reason for that. I cropped that
ship out on purpose.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Right edit, right, let's for me. Man just got just
like me. You gotta gotta face for radio. I get it, brother,
I get it.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, because don't fit in the screen. Look at the
size of that thing. Jesus, what is like what the hell,
because that's you three to get together and it's I mean,
I know BD. So when I'm forgetting him, we're leaving
him out, I'm gonna have a show just famin. You
guys suggested it that he deserves.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
Yeah, he needs his own show because he BD is
just an amazing individual full of a ton of different knowledge,
and I think with having the three of us dim
Rod's on here with him, we'd be we would definitely
be taking a lot away from him. He needs he
needs his own Uh, he needs his own spot with

(18:30):
you guys, because he is absolutely amazing and actually pretty
much the the brains behind what makes Dark Realm TV
work on a daily basis.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
I feel that I do and I have. I've been
blessed with my second producer, Sam you can see on
the side here. Uh. Sam's the one that makes your
thumbnails and makes your guest merciaal that we have all
that stuff. She's the one who does all She's so
super talented.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
And that was badass by the way.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, yeah, bads, Well you'll walk you know, you walk
up to it as a guest, you know, But like
I tell everybody else as well, if you're out there
and you want something like the guest merciall for for
your podcast or for whatever you might be doing. I
don't know. You can whatever creative mind you have, Sam
you can reach out to and and that's what she does.
So it's her business and her company, and that's what

(19:22):
she does, and she will. She'll make you up whatever
you want. She might make you up two or three
different versions. See which one you like, but you gotta
pay up, sucker.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, she's badass. So I'm glad you guys enjoyed that.
Beneo's here for all the way from Australia. Let's see
that's gonna be bagging on him by next summer. Hell yeah,
that's right. Bojo's working on it.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Man.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
He's looking slender and we've listen, we've run him in
the freaking ground. Have you seen? Our lives are constant, man,
We've been banging out our lives like crazy. And uh yeah, man,
I can't I can't help but not get chubby again.
I'm just like just like dwindling away my after mind.
I think the other day it was uh what two
and a half miles one of the one of the
ones we just did. But absolutely insane. But the woods

(20:07):
just keep you going.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
The woods were just like little kids. Every time you
turn a corner there's another treasure. You're like, what the
hell is going on out here?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
You know?

Speaker 7 (20:15):
That's that's the way Joe is too. He's a hell
of them Whisman.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, Joe ain't doing it busy.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
Joe's like baby. Joe's like baby Yoda. We got to
put him in the backpack and then we take him
out of the woods.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
And everything, you know, right, So, so, so what is Joe?
What is it? You don't like the woods? Is that
what's happening?

Speaker 7 (20:35):
I am?

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I am.

Speaker 9 (20:37):
I am strictly a city boy.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
I don't are you afraid of what might be in
the woods? Fighters?

Speaker 9 (20:44):
I don't say spiders.

Speaker 8 (20:46):
You don't like spiders, Cubs on goonies, I hate natscha, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Pretty much. So the other day, you're gonna like this.
The other day we were we were researching and there
was some commotion in this area. So we went to
fall up on it and I had my phone on them.
You know, you get distracted. I took one step, you know,
those beautiful web spiders, and the spiders is right in
the middle of it, hey, right in the nose, dude,
I hit a dead center, went around my head and

(21:12):
I felt Spider's ass on my nose.

Speaker 9 (21:15):
The paramedics would have found me right there.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah. I was like, I was like, I was like,
come on, girl to it. Get that little spider booty go. No, sir,
you would have loved that. That would have been sick.

Speaker 9 (21:31):
So, dude, I don't even like daddy long legs, like
really piss on that. No, No, yeah, I want to
hear a grown You want to hear a grown man
scream like a little bit, get me around the spik.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
We just want to see you in a Spider Man costume.
That's what's going on. That's what Richie's implying.

Speaker 9 (21:51):
Folks on Sundays over OnlyFans.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Wow, well that just got good.

Speaker 9 (22:07):
Better, Jason better get the check book out tonight.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
Hey brother, they'll say my show, Ricky, she's got to
get the check book out. He had us on.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
So, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
So for once, for once, it's not our well it's
gonna say for once, it's not our show, so I
don't have to get the check book out. Those those
guys got to get the check book out.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, I know, they're like, what do we do now?
Someone actually invited us to the podcast. I'm so confused.
I know it never happens. Hey, listen, you got listen.
You gotta understand one thing when you you know, you
guys go live and you do your thing well, Jason,
not so much lately. But anyways, that's a whole different story.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
I got something for you.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
You got a fisherman here. No, it's it's a lot.
It's a lot when you bring the energy like you
guys do. And then me and Wojo have already like
that's what I was saying. I was sitting there thinking,
oh my god, every top like topics gonna be everywhere.
So I'm like, so I gotta like reel it in,
you know what I mean, trying to you know, maintain it.

(23:14):
So a lot of people probably don't know handle well.
For one, three guests at once, right, and then three
guests that have so much going on because there's so
much I want to ask you guys and and find
out right.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
And you you got the list of questions that we
don't answer or anything, right.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, No, I got that's that's bro. You already sent
me a picture. Relax, I know, I know exactly what
it looks like.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
So you got you got multiple pictures right as I
said multiple.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
No, that was Jay. He sent me like eighty two self.
He wanted me to post him for you. Make sure
you look Yeah, you want to make sure you look good? Yeah,
there it is. I don't want I'm talking about Oh
let's be Aria smile something like that. So yeah, it's so.
My thing is this when it comes to you guys.
And I don't research nobody ever, everything's organic. I just
asked the questions. The show takes on its own identity.

(24:08):
I don't try to force any issues, you know. And
I started thinking and that for me as a person, say,
I'm sitting with you guys, and you're at an event,
and you're at a doc Roun event. Now I want
to see the TV stuff for the app and all that,
how it works and all the stuff that's on it.
But in my mind, and it's always been like this
my whole life, how do you three become friends? And

(24:29):
then we'll add bed in a minute, but how do
you three become friends?

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Like?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
How does who? Who is their initiator?

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Here?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Is there a middleman? Did you grow up together? I
mean it doesn't. Joe looks like he's twelve just because
of his height. But but you know what I mean, like,
how does that happen? Does anybody want to take the
lead on that and tell me how.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
We'll let We'll let the old the old man in
the group. That's how that happens.

Speaker 7 (24:55):
Jay, It's one Joe's fault.

Speaker 10 (24:59):
I'm Joe sixteen seventeen years ago went to an open
investigation at the location.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
He was there hosting it.

Speaker 10 (25:07):
I was not even skeptic guys of disbeliever all together,
so I was dismissing. It was all get out and
we sat on the front portion until like seven thirty
the next morning. Him, the other guy that's with him,
good friends, Rob Brian Hensley, asked me a question, So
if you say you don't believe this sous, well, I've
never seen any proof of it.

Speaker 7 (25:22):
He says, So you hunt and fish. I said, yeah,
he goes see you go fishing all day and you
don't catch any fish.

Speaker 10 (25:27):
I said, it's happening because so now fish didn't exist
because you didn't experience him. And that opened up my
mind and Joe and I became quick friends and we've
stayed in contact in. About three weeks later, Jason came
to the same location because it was open for investigations
to be booked and stuff, and Jason had booked it
to come in and investigate, and I gotten so involved

(25:49):
in that I was there every single weekend with any
team that would allow me. And he got so wrapped
up that I actually moved into the location for almost
five years and helped with all the investigations, and we
just kept contact and kept learning from and they kept
asking questions. And that's that's one of the things that
we've always done, all three of us. We we work
with people. We want people to ask questions, whether they're

(26:09):
new in the fielden in the field for years. We're
all about helping in learning for each other. And that's
how it all started, and we continue that and just
keep it going. Best beard, Thanks dude.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
I never have good beard. Oh my God, Jesus, big sex.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
There we go, there we there we go.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
Getting that beard going because i'metting old and fat.

Speaker 9 (26:33):
Get out.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
So you took the words out of my mouth because
I was just gonna, was just getting ready to say
getting and you were like getting.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
I'm like, oh, listen, listen to God, I'll tell you.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
Said, listen to They're bost two hundred pounds, show off
a little skinny winch.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I know, I know we've got to get to that
pot about you because I thought of that as well.
I've been through all that, not at that magnitude, but
it's been brutal, like with weight loss and things like that,
and it's it's it's crazy, man, I get up to
two forty eight or above, I have to go on
hot medicine. I had grandfathers who died on both sides
of my family of massive hot attacks. So I went

(27:13):
on hot high blood pressure medicine. And then I went
on a sabbatical. I went to two oh seven and
I was like no, And now I'm like high two twenties.
I'm making sure I go down, you know what I mean.
But no, that's great.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
Yeah, so shit, I was four hundred at one time.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
One hundred yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I'm going to get
to that absolutely because it all you know, like I said,
I love Doc Round TV. I love all you do.
But when I started talking to people, I want to
know you guys personally, right, It's important to me. You know,
I can read somebody like when we started talking about
you know, banter Richie b being on Doc Realm. I

(27:47):
like even j I picked up right on, like how
you guys were like us, like what Jay just said
and everybody else I will vouch for this. Wojo and
I are all about questions, all about doing all that
respectfully and just having a good time. And that's that's
really how you can learn things and and find things,
you know, research things. That's how you do it, right.

Speaker 10 (28:05):
Yeah, So absolutely so Joe and and Jay, how do
you find Jason? Jason came to that same location and
we kind of met up, and then of course I
was the middle man. Then I introduced those two and
and we just like I said, over the years, we've
just always supported one another. Joe's and I'm in southern Ohio,
Jose in northern Ohio, or Jason's in northern Ohio.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
Jason or Joe's prout in Wisconsin.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
But we all you don't have to excuse him. He's old.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
Yeah I'm too.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
That was that was some old ass delivery right now.
He's an up a bitching get off my lawn. So
I'm an old hill lace.

Speaker 10 (28:46):
I said, Well, Joe's out yonder and Jason's on up
here with the northern aggression people that didn't like the
Southern people.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
So.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
That's not true.

Speaker 8 (28:54):
Yeah yeah, Jaco, when you going were you coming into
this group? Were you were a skeptic or were your investigator?

Speaker 6 (29:03):
So I've always pretty much been a skeptic. I've got
almost thirty years of law enforcement experience, so I bring
that to investigating and that to the to the team
as well. But I've always been more skeptic and right
along with Joe. Joe actually created his whole thing with
skeptical edge. So we all we all want to figure

(29:29):
things out. We always have questions. We always delve into
why this happened or why this, why this did this,
or why this did that, or why you had this
experience or whatever. But we just all clicked. I mean
we did. We we all clicked years ago and we've
just stuck by each other. We've all been through the ringer,
We've all been drugged through the mud one hundred damn times.

(29:52):
Because we don't we don't play the games. We don't
you know, we're not on one side of the other.
We're just doing our thing. We stick together, and you know,
that's it's a it's a brotherhood. Honest to god, it's
a it's a brotherhood. And that's why we've why we've
done this. And it's kind of funny because Jay and I,

(30:13):
Joe's been doing podcasts. He did uh professional radio for
a while. Jay's been doing podcasts forever in a day.
That's why I ride these guys's coat tails, because I
really wasn't doing the podcast that much. Jay and I
started a podcast years ago and we we were like,
who do we want to have on for our first guest, Like,

(30:33):
you know what, let's bring Joe on. We have Joe
on for our guest, and we'll just you know, we'll
start there. Well, Joe's been on the show ever since
the first guest. He just became the third guy on
the show, and we just ran with it. So that's
why we started doing Stirring the Pot and Dark Roam
Radio and all that is just we just we we
pushed the envelope. We push each other. We're not afraid

(30:56):
to answer any questions. We're not afraid to have any
guest on. We're not afraid to have anybody on that
wants to talk on different topics and whatever, whether it
be political stuff, religious stuff, all the taboo shit. Well,
oh am I allowed to say that. I'm sorry.

Speaker 9 (31:11):
Sit yeah, all right, talking about the Godzilla three thousand.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Right, I mean, and we do, I mean we do.
We play off of each other. We do a lot
of different fun shit together. We raise a lot of
money for a lot of different things, eating challenges. When
we travel and do conventions, we donate stuff. We you know,
we bring Boding the Bigfoot, we bring Dougie the dog Man.
We made a whole Jezebel, which is Annabelle's third lost

(31:39):
cousin from Kentucky. We found her in a shitter Now
she's our shitter house demon. We travel all over the
place with a lot of different things, but always always
always having fun, bringing laughter, bringing comedy, bringing all that
to every place we go, and honestly, god, we just
have a good time where that's what we're all about.

(32:00):
There for the kids, getting there for families.

Speaker 9 (32:02):
You know, he's got brought me back into the field.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
I had.

Speaker 9 (32:06):
I had walked away from this ship show years ago.
Shut up, I did, but uh he did.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
Well. His walk is is like a because he's four
foot three, so his walk is kind of like a
like a really fast you know.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
He saw a spider at the location, right, That's what happened.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
He's like, ask him, ask him, ask him what location
and whatever brought him back into it.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (32:35):
Well, and I walked. You know, I've been I've been
doing paranormal since two thousand and early on in the years,
there was a lot of a lot of ship a
lot of you know, the whole paranormal turf wars, and
you can't go to this location because that's our team's location.
And back in the day, I was, I'm a lot

(32:57):
more reserved.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I was.

Speaker 9 (32:59):
I was one of the the bad boys of the
paranormal because I didn't care. I'd call you out, I
would say whatever. I don't know how I've never been
banned from anything like Jason does.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
But uh.

Speaker 9 (33:13):
And I just finally got too tired of it, and
and uh so I walked away, walked away. And uh,
I did go and help someone up in Wisconsin on
one one little case at a location, and I had
been previously. And then I was like, all right, cool,
I'm done whatever, and get talking with these two knuckleheads.

(33:36):
And uh they were putting on an event out in
Toledo at the Collingwood Arts Center and I'm like, you
know what, I'm gonna go hang out for the weekend,
go see my see my buddies and those bastards. And
here I am again like so like, I was so

(33:58):
content too, man like, I mean, because I was to
the point, you know, not now my kids are grown,
but you know my kids growing up, I was never around.
I mean I was gone three weekends a month, uh,
traveling anywhere from Salem, Gati's, all over and uh. And
don't get me wrong, it was a lot of fun.
Met some great people, fought with a lot of great people,

(34:21):
you know, the whole that that kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 (34:23):
It's called a mockery by some people.

Speaker 9 (34:25):
Yeah, I've been called a mockery by quote friends and
and stuff. And that's fine, you know each shit and
I but uh, heckery, tell me, yeah I did. I
designed the shirt, uh because of this person. And it's
kind of kind of like the Jack Daniels logo and

(34:45):
it's you know, skeptical edged TV making a mockery. In
the Paranormal True Story, Joe, I almost wore tonight.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
You should have.

Speaker 9 (34:54):
But but yes, I I I went out there for
the weekend, hung out with them, fell in love with
the location, had an experience at said location, and here
I am, that was it. You were back in it,
here I am.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Isn't it?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Isn't it crazy how that passion gets triggered, and it
gets triggered in different levels. For me, when I had
my experience in my backyard over and over and over
and over and over again for years, and it kept
happening and kept happening, and I had a gifting stumped
the whole nine yard trying to communicate everything, and I
was so I was already passionate. But then, you know,

(35:33):
when I lost my son in twenty two, you know,
after going through some grieving time, I was kind of like,
you know, you got to get up and fight or
die type of failing. So I was like, you know,
he's watching me right now. I got to get up.
So I got up and I started the podcast. I
called Bobby Leaves, I want to start a podcast, and
she was so pumped and everything got thrown together. Next man,
I was in front of the camera going hide like

(35:53):
it was just that fast, And I realized when I
got done with my first podcast, man, I had that
that rush, that adrenaline rush that you get like because
I did paranormal. I don't know if you guys aware that,
but I had a team for ten years and it
was all family members and we used to go out
and do all kinds of like around the local area
for people, and we practice in the cemetery. Then we
go to people's houses when we got to call all

(36:15):
that stuff and oh, thank you, Beno. And then you know,
the passion went up a different level, right like you
come off the I came off the tea, off the screen,
and I was like, yeah, that was frigging like I
got it out. Like I told everybody I believed in Bigfoot.
I told him he was in my back you know,
running around my backyard. You know, I finally said it.
You know, I have to sleep with it in my
head anymore, you know. And and and then all of

(36:37):
a sudden, it was like, all right, what do I
do next? And then boom, I hit the woods. That's
what I do next. Boots on the ground, right, bang, right,
then I get a co host.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Bang.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Then I'm in the woods with my co host who's
now my research and buddy bang. We're all all and
the passion just keeps going. Cuck putu. And then you
realize this is it, this is this is this is
part of my life. Now, it's a part of my life,
like my favorite column, my favorite calm, my favorite music.
This is a part of my life. And it's like,
I love it. I got all the people on the side.
Love them guys, you know, like everybody they come up

(37:07):
with us in the woods. They're all researchers in their
own right. Just by looking through the camera, you know
what I mean, it's freaking awesome. No, that's that's awesome. Well,
I'm glad you guys got together. So when when darc
Realm TV comes up, you guys sit down and say, hey,
we got to go to another level, like kind of
like what I'll just explain to you because that's what
I went to another level with. Lie, what are you

(37:27):
laughing at when you guys naked? When you talked about it, it's.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
It's well, yeah, but naked naked in a bad.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Cheetos all right? That makes sense. So what Dark Realm was.

Speaker 10 (37:41):
It came around over a long period of time because
and the parandlemas you will know, and and the cryptic fields.
If you want to know certain networks all that stuff,
you have to have so many followers. You have to
have this views on stuff. And we've always heard all
these years while we were doing Jason for over twenty,
Joe for over twenty, me for about sixteen seventeen, I
wish there was a place that I could put myself.

(38:01):
I wish the place I do with my things, And
it was always Joe actually got invited to join another
network that's out there, and they found out that he
didn't have the followers viewers, so they told him no.

Speaker 9 (38:11):
After they invited, these guys actually sought me out and
approached me. And I won't say who they are.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I don't worry. Jason. Yeah, there's a lot of lube involved,
tons of loops.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
Yeah, we're talking about the we're talking about the para normal, right.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's like the Olympics,
but different.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
Like yeah, they I like, I like gold flicks. I
like old flicks when you sit around and watch them.
Never mind, go ahead, go ahead, Joe. I'm sorry, Yeah,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Back to the loop, Joe, back to the back to
the lube.

Speaker 9 (38:53):
So but no, like they so they people came out
asked me about it, and I wasn't because at the
time I was doing some YouTube stuff here and there,
and I was like, all right, well, well how many
followers do you have? And I'm like, you know, gross,
you know type of thing, and it turned into well
have you been on TV? No, America's Most Wanted. But

(39:13):
that's about it, right, So you know, I'm firmer than
that episode. I'm like, does porn Hub count?

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Like? But yes, fluffer right, what a landing.

Speaker 9 (39:36):
So so I went back to these guys and I'm like, hey, man,
catch this ship, you know, yeah, and it just kind
of like, you know what, screw it, let's let's do
it like we have about.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
It for years.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
Yeah, we've been for four or five years.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
And we saw that.

Speaker 9 (39:55):
And like Jay said, you know, we've been doing conventions
for for years, and you know, we've met every level
of investigator, film or whatever you.

Speaker 7 (40:04):
Want to call it, YouTuber whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 9 (40:09):
Everyone was like, man, I I wish, you know, I
I wish we could you know, film our stuff and
put it somewhere. But we've never been on TV and
we don't have this and that, and and it's like, yeah,
I know, it sucks. And then we did that for
years and then, like I said, with this, we were
finally like, you know what, let's just shoot or get
off the pot.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's great. And did you need you know,
do you need to go looking for a tech guy
or did you already know bd?

Speaker 7 (40:36):
Oh we already need bed but Jills thirty OUs our
tech guy.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (40:41):
And then oh yeah I was. I was like, okay,
you know, I do all this streaming stuff and whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Did you need to need a step stool to get
to the computer? I did, I did.

Speaker 6 (40:55):
See see you don't know right now, but right now
his feet are doing this and they are damn it.
But so he could never he could never be in
an episode of Boot the Ground unless we actually said
you might have a backpack.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Ouch. Uh, no offense, go ahead, that everything makes everything better?
Heyf you no offense? That's crazy. So you were in
charge of attack and then you probably well with this stuff.
I noticed you get to a level that you've got
to no no, no, again, no offense. But it's just like,

(41:33):
you know, some of this stuff gets crazy that you
have to get into. You got a lot of ship.
You guys got to go. It is unreal.

Speaker 9 (41:39):
I sat there on the couch one night and uh,
you know, and I'm not yeah, and and my legs
were not touching the ground but his.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Turd like Dragon of across. Oh yeah, it's a different
kind of bands tonight, folks.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Boy.

Speaker 9 (41:56):
But uh, you know, my my wife and I we
were sitting on the co and we were, you know,
looking up stuff, and she found this thing how to
start her rocue channel. And it was like a video
and I had like fifteen or fourteen fifteen parts to it,
and I got to like the second part of the
video and I was like, no, no way, Like what
the hell is that? And my wife's like, well, You're

(42:19):
gonna have to learn to write code and I'm like, no,
not at all. That's a little different my Yeah, this
is not obs and this is not you know, twitch, Like, no,
I can't. So I went back to these guys and
I'm like, sorry, guys, I failed. There's no way I
can do this.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
So yeah, that's all right. Let you hey listen, you
know your limits, right. Yeah, that's like when I called
I called about a podcast. I did the same thing.
I was looking up how to start a podcast, you
know what I mean. And I looked it up and
it says you're way too fucking sup and call somebody,
you know what I mean. I was like, oh, thank
you for that, because as soon as I come back,
I have wicked add right set. It's been on better

(42:58):
medication and it's more under control. But anyways, that's a
different story. So I was like, you see, like ten
things at once. You're like, all these thoughts come to
your head. You're like, uh, and you freeze up, you
lock up. That's what it does, you know what I mean?
And I knew Bobby Lee's was a techie, and I
was like, listen, man, I got to start a podcast.
And she was like, I was waiting for this phone call.

(43:18):
You're gonna be awesome at this. And I'm like, damn,
what are you talking about? Like she just knew more
about it than me and how it worked and I
didn't understand any of it, but thank God for her
and now Sam, I mean, I got an all star team.
I'm lucky. Man. You got it too, Man, you got
you guys. See that's the crazy part about you. We
are you seeing this? These guys think just like we do.
With their research and with their overall view of what

(43:42):
they're doing right their research that they're doing the paranormal
or whatever it might be. They're so open minded and
they all gel together. It's kind of like the squad
that we have. It's almost like looking in the mirror,
except we're just slightly taller than Joe.

Speaker 8 (43:54):
Imagine that those guys were getting it together like every weekend.
I mean, good god, I can't imagine it would be.

Speaker 9 (44:01):
It would be horrible if we all live.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I would send some divorce papers coming.

Speaker 8 (44:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
That's a lot of right there.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, I got that too. Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 10 (44:14):
To have people around Jack, you said a good team,
because like we're where one of us feels that they
have no more about it something like that.

Speaker 7 (44:21):
The other two just kind of step back and say, dude,
you're in charge, you take the league. We're here to
do whatever you need.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
To help you do it.

Speaker 7 (44:26):
Love it, We don't. There's no ego to it. There's
no animosities. There's no I'm in charge, your second, your third.
We're all in this together.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Really, we're doing this.

Speaker 10 (44:35):
To build something, not for us, for the communities. It's
not about building our own egos and all this stuff.
It's it's about Dark Realm TV, it's about Dark Realm game,
it's about Dark Road Radio. We want to build things
for people to be able to share their their experiences
and their stuff.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Without having to worry about it, and put it on
the largest platforms in the world.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
Yeah, that's that's That's what I really wanted to hit on,
is the fact that we we all have jobs, we
all have you know, our our nine to five or whatever,
nine to nine, nine to nine whatever. We built this
and basically in twenty twenty four, the beginning of twenty
twenty four, the three of us were like, you know what,

(45:15):
this year, we need to put up a shut up
because we've talked about starting this. We've talked about this,
and then other things happen and we put it on
the back burner, and then we don't, and then we
hear the same the same talks. You know, God, I wish,
God I wish. Then we start talking about it again
and then they just put on the back burner for
something else. So the beginning of twenty twenty four, we
were like, you know what, this is it we don't

(45:36):
need to We either need to fucking do it or
we're never going to do it, period. So surround yourself
with good people, good things happen. That's exactly what we did.
Reached out to a couple of different people that are
it savvy, that can do code, that can do all
that stuff. Sat down with Bead and said, because I'd
worked with Bed, I've known b D a long long time,

(45:56):
sat down with him and said, hey, look this is
what we're trying to do. You think this is possible.
He was like, well, let me check it out. And
them guys like, yeah, well I can, yeah, I can probably, Yep,
I can do this, Yep, I can do that. What
else do you want to do? I'm like, okay, well
fucking time out, okay, because we need to we all
need to talk about this. So we all started talking

(46:16):
about it, and that was the thing. It was like,
all right, we want to do this. What is it
going to take? It takes a whole lot of time,
It takes a whole lot of money, It takes a
whole lot of dedication, it takes a whole lot of
It's a labor of love.

Speaker 7 (46:32):
Some fast little fingers ay.

Speaker 8 (46:42):
But that's I mean, that's great because you guys, you know,
like for me, I played I've known Richie for like
twenty five twenty five plus, he is and I know
I believe me even like playing softball with it against him,
I should I still shake my head. I'm like, man,
this guy's up an aggravating piece of you know, he

(47:03):
likes to get onto people's skin.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Then I got onto my skin and I laugh at him.

Speaker 8 (47:07):
I'm like, Jesus Christ, kid, I go, this guy can't
slow down. But I know how Richie rolls. That's why
I respected him and loved him for it, right, And
then he had the podcast and I'm like, I called
him up and I go, hey, dude, you know again
he was just on my team and whatever, and I go,
what do you got go on? He goes, I got
big for my back guy, frank Annie, here you do
and he goes, no, I do. And and that's how

(47:30):
he brought me along.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
He called me up.

Speaker 8 (47:32):
He goes, hey, you want to go on an investigation.
So I was at boat aline skeptic, but I was
always been in a treat by uposed paranormal and Bigfoot,
and I like, I want to see what you're just seeing.
And so you know the thing about Richie was is
that you know, he keep an open mind or whatever.
So he wasn't telling me anything going on in the woods.
I've been a hunter all my life, so I know

(47:54):
being on the woods what it's like, you know, you know,
pants down in your ankles and just like hey, you
know nature, you know.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
But anyways, but in time, No, no, I've been a
long time and I'm not with my pants down around
my ankle.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Oh you got to know real soon, don't you worry? Anyways?

Speaker 4 (48:10):
Back to yeah, but but I mean, you know rich
But again, rich was like my associated friend, and he
didn't tell me.

Speaker 8 (48:27):
Anything about bigfoot happening in his yet he kept it
as his secret, and I respect him for that and
being going out with him on that investigation and seeing
what I was seeing and you're like in that rabbits hole.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Now I've been going out with him ever since.

Speaker 8 (48:43):
And then he brought me as a co host, which
I still, uh, you know, regret and appreciate.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
So no offense.

Speaker 8 (48:56):
But the thing about Richie is is that he's like
everything is like me and you. It's like fifty to fifty.
You know, we work together and we don't. We don't
neither one of us take a charge like you know,
you know, I always respect Richie because it's it's his podcast.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
You know. He goes no, no, no, it's me and you.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
We worked we work it out together.

Speaker 8 (49:17):
And now going on the woods and you know, we
share ideas of our investigations.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
How are we to start it? Where we're to go?
And you know what, we just go on that women.
We just have fun.

Speaker 8 (49:30):
And that's that's the greatest thing. Is it's great to
like go out in the woods and have fun with
my friend here and and the audience out here. And
all I can say is it's it's so humbling and
you just have so much fun and you get to
enjoy yourselves.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
And we go out every weekend. So I respect you
guys what you guys do.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
Even though you guys are different locations and you guys
are brothers, and including BD, he's like the poor horseman.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
You know.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
But we have we we definitely we have We have
a good team. We have Beady Morgan, we have Gary,
we have Dave. There's six of us that that work
together well to run this whole thing. You know, we
have a production company as well that we that we
do a lot of stuff with. We do a lot
of filming, We do a lot of that kind of
stuff too, So it all plays hand in hand. And

(50:22):
like Jay said, earlier and even Joe. There's no egos here.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
We don't.

Speaker 6 (50:27):
We all work together. We're all brothers. We all put
this thing together. And like I said, we we built
it for everybody else. We built it for everybody to
have a platform, because it's I'm telling you, at one
point in time when we first started this, we all

(50:47):
kind of said to each other, we ship like, are
we ready for this? Because it's not like running the
YouTube channel. It's not like running that kind of stuff.
And again not to take anything away from YouTube content
guys and all that. I mean that's you still have
to do all that, but running a network that streams
on Roku, Amazon Fire. We also tossed around Apple. We're

(51:12):
tossing around some different apps that you can download on
your phones. I mean, there's a lot of things. But
every everybody also once they're once, they're cut. So Roku
once theirs, Amazon wants theirs, Apple wants, you know what
I mean. So it's it's building the subscribers. It's building that,
but also being able to put out content, which I

(51:36):
am extremely excited about it. I know these guys are too.
Since November when we launched of last year, we have
had brand new content out weekly since November of last
year and continue to put out brand new content. This
last week. We put out new content every day of

(51:57):
the week. So what that tells us as a network
is that we are trusted enough with people that want
to put content on our network that trust us to
do that. And you know, I don't want to like
I don't want to get off topic, but there's a

(52:18):
lot of things, a lot of questions that we get,
like who owns the content once it comes to your network,
and who owns this? And who owns that? And you
guys can can vouch you own your own content. We
don't own anything. We don't take rights to any of it.
We don't want the right stan any of it. We
want to give you the platform to put your stuff
out so that everybody across the world who has Roku

(52:42):
and Amazon Fire can download that Dark Realm TV app
on that platform and watch you in their living room.
We want that for you, guys. We want to help
people grow. We want people to see the average you know,
every day, people that are putting in the work, putting
in the stuff, putting boots on the ground every Thursday,

(53:05):
you know what I mean. That's why we built it
at the end of the day, was to give everybody
the opportunity to come on Dark Round TV, put their
content out there and uh and and be a part
of it. And that's it's growing. It's growing leaps and bounds.
Were extremely excited about it. But we are always looking
for more shows, more people. So if you guys are

(53:29):
out there and have something, and you edit it and
you put it together, I mean, let us know if
you want to be a part of it.

Speaker 10 (53:36):
Yeah, and we're uping for everything, not just turn home
on Bigfoot, any kind of cryptid, urban legend, urban exploration, UFO.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
U a P, alien abduction, you name it TD if.

Speaker 10 (53:50):
If you're horror movie maker and you you've made some
horror movies, scary movies, always give me a hard time
how I say.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
That word.

Speaker 6 (53:58):
Scar myself.

Speaker 10 (54:05):
Anyway, if you make those time mabies and you you
would like to get it out there and stuff and
you will put it up where people can actually see it.
We have a thing about That's all part of it.
That's why the log the slogan is where fear is.
If it's scary, we want it.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
We want to be a part of one percent and
and and what they say is exactly true, exactly real,
and and they're open minded like I had. We talked
about you know, I was going on and then it
was like I was thinking, I'm like, well, why don't
we have a consistent show night. So I presented that

(54:39):
and said, hey, how about every Thursday at this time
whatever the case might be, and boom, it was done,
and every Thursday you can find us on on doc
Roun TV Bojo. Every time I say that you have
to say, you have to.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Even figures you got to bring it up. I almost like.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Exploded, well no, you and fucking season saying.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Job, I'm trying.

Speaker 6 (55:12):
Job one job, one job, No, he's got two.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Boom, but shut up.

Speaker 9 (55:21):
I will say that this this has grown beyond but
what we expected. You know, obviously it was a slow start,
you know, and we're just like, oh, okay, that's all right,
you know whatever, it'll grow, it'll grow. And then it
was like, yeah, I've still been adding water to it.
It's not working, but help.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
That don't help. That's opposite, it.

Speaker 9 (55:43):
Doesn't, it doesn't. But I was like, okay, whatever, and
then it was like in like a week or two period,
it was like we were getting messages and next thing,
you know, we're on all these like zoom calls and
it was like, oh ship. And then finally it was
like one night it kind of hit me and I
called them when we were talking and I'm like, guys, man, like,

(56:07):
are we ready for this? Because this is like, not
to take anyone else's phrase, but like this is kind
of going to the next level. And it was like
and we're like, you know what, screw it, strap on it.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (56:22):
Just like just like and just like Joe said, with
zoom calls and uh, Richie being Richie being whoa you
guys gonna test if you ever if if you want
to put on a show on our network and you
want to, you've got a ton of questions because obviously
mostly everybody does. We'll do zoom calls. My god, we

(56:43):
did two or three zoom calls with you guys before
you guys came on the network, answering whatever questions you
had and and just you know, because we want to
get to know you as well.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
But you know, we we don't.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
We have an open book. There's nothing that we're that
we're doing here other than trying to build a platform
and whatever for everybody.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Our goal.

Speaker 6 (57:06):
Our goal was to get enough subscribers so that the
channel paid for itself, and we're we're almost there. We
would love to be able to get it to where,
you know, you guys have a convention out east and
you want to go, Hey, we'll take some of that
money and we'll toss it to that convention and pay

(57:29):
for your weekend there at the convention sponsored by Dark
round TV. Guys check out, you know, check out these guys,
or check out this team or that team. That's our
goal with the money that comes in that we would
make off of off the network. Right now, we're basically

(57:49):
just sustaining with what it costs to run a month
with the subscriptions that we have.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
I didn't.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
Do it if I was more consistent. I do make
up and speaking stories.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
You know.

Speaker 10 (58:04):
The thing that's the thing about being with Dark Realm,
you when if you if you put an episode up
and you'll put another episode up for two weeks, three weeks, whatever.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
We understand that everybody has a life. Well that's that's
the good thing in our network.

Speaker 10 (58:16):
We don't have a demand that you have to put
this episodes up, this also and things like that because
we understand that everybody has a life, they.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Do things outside of this. Nobody's nobody's making a living,
do this and get paid to do.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
This all the time. So that's why we we we
open up to everybody.

Speaker 10 (58:30):
You have to build George Channel, build George style and
it will change as you go. As you do it,
you're gonna progress and decide you want to change this way,
you will do that way, and that allows you to
see your progression stuff. It's not about you have to
be consistent. You have your show every week. If you
can't great, if you can't.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Cool, that's what we have.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
We have. We have two shows that we that we
run weekly and that is add the request of the
shows they which you know Richie being woes. They were like, hey,
we want to do Boots on the Ground. We want
to do it every Thursday.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
Done.

Speaker 6 (59:05):
We would love to have. We would love we were
gonna We're going to dedicate Thursdays to Boots on the Ground.
You keep giving it to us like they do because
their content is great, guys, I mean, honest to god,
content is great.

Speaker 7 (59:19):
Watching it on TV. Reader, I'm always got it home.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
I I mean, I I do need I love you,
I love you guys his logo, I need a T shirt.

Speaker 7 (59:27):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
You're your guys, your guys' shows and the stuff that
you guys do in the podcast because you guys are
doing so much. It's it's amazing content and we are
we're honored to put it out there for you guys weekly.
The other weekly show we have is Wednesdays. We call
it Wrestling Wednesdays. It's in humane, in Humane Championship Race

(59:51):
Wrestling i c W. We put them out every week
they requested it.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
Absolutely. If you have content, enough content that you want
to give me a show and say, hey, I want
to give you content weekly, whatever, I'll dedicate it Tuesday
for you, or a Monday for you, or a Thursday
for you. That's that's fine. We built this for you.
We want to put this stuff out for you guys.
So if you have that much content and you have

(01:00:18):
that much stuff going on to where you want it
out on a weekly basis, that is not a problem.
If you have two or three shows where you want it,
you want to put it out quarterly, that's no problem either.
We will put it out when you give it to us.
It's a very simple upload to a to a cloud.
We pull it off the cloud, or we I say

(01:00:39):
we Brian pulls it off and puts it and puts
it on Roku in Amazon. We if you want to
do two shows, that's perfect. We'll do two shows a
year and we'll put it out there. It's it's giving
you the platform so that you have millions, potentially millions

(01:01:00):
and millions of people watching your shows. The thing is,
we need to keep pushing subscriptions, subscribers to get more
out there so that we can get we can get
out there more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
That's that's the thing that's awesome. And if you want
to do something like that in order to help this
grow with this good group of guys, absolutely grab that.
Grab it because you might say, yeah, you know you
guys know, like the guys on the side, like what
you're saying right now is basically an echo of what
I say on my lives. We've built a community and
that's what we want. We want a community. And everybody

(01:01:34):
on the side should have tested this and could have
tested this, and hopefully they do that. They we include
them in our investigations. We encourage them to be pot
of our team. We give them credit for their ideas,
We're not like, oh, thank god I thought of that.
Shut up a little screen guy, you know what I mean.
It's not like that. It's like, yo, so so and
so told us to try that. Let's try that. So

(01:01:55):
we go and try that idea. And now they get
to see their idea and they're part of the team.
They're a virtual research team. So I have more eyes,
more ears. They can play it back and watch it.
We have a Spocky from Spocky's Paranormal. His daughter's getting
married today tonight, whenever it is. They're on the West.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
Congratulations to her.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Congratulations he made their wedding bands at a titanium.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
For unbelievable, unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
We want we want to give a shout out to
Spocky out there. Congratulations to you and your family. My man,
you're a good dad, great dad and a great man.
So appreciate you. Brother. He'll go back during our lives
and cut it up real quick and look at hey,
it's in the messenger. I think I got something. Oh hey, no,
I wasn't able to pick up that audio. And he's
like a part of it. And then you got the
moderators that are coming in right and and Sam's from

(01:02:40):
Sam's Pretty Paranormal. Elder Elder, I saw you here by
the way, Elder Medicine, Bear Claus. He kind of gives
us that American guidance, uh, different, different words we can
use when we're trying to communicate screws. We've had big
foot like right up on us. I mean, they're right
a great day of moving around. We could feel them,
and we whenever you hear us start talking to them,
that's because we know they're close where we're like, hey,
it's okay, you know what I mean, it's all right,

(01:03:02):
you know, and we and we'll use some words, you know,
and and Elder kind of guides us. And and then
like new people like Kirk come in and they big
time supportive. And you know, now he's a moderator. He
was terrible at it. Last night was his first night.
He was horrible. Oh my god, oh my god. You know,
some guy was talking about being on a shipter or
something like that, and and Kirk comes flying and goes,
oh yeah, three hundred seconds timed out.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Richie checked this out, which he's like, you know, still
yelling at Kirk. Kirk today, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
So listen to let me if you come on the
Lives use Vogel language, talk about taking deuces on toilets,
you're gonna get three hundred seconds. Get it. Don't even dare, which.

Speaker 7 (01:03:46):
Means I'm going to get banned.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
Sometimes I would have I would never be able to
be on if if he banned me for for language.
But when you're talking about what you're also talking about,
we are the only network that actually as Native American
content on the network, and the reason being obviously bad

(01:04:08):
is part of the Native American community and all that.
But going back to working with everybody, a lot of
the networks and a lot of other platforms when dealing
with the Native American community, they made demands on them
and said, well, we want all of this. Well, as

(01:04:29):
you guys know, there's some stuff that the Native American
community won't film, they don't want put out there filming
or pictures or whatever. And basically all these other networks
were like, well, if we can't have all of it,
we don't want any of it. Dark Realm TV was like,
we will post and put out whatever you want to

(01:04:50):
put out there, and we'll give you that platform to
do that. And they were like, oh my god, like yes, please,
And again that was all ilitated with BD because you know,
he's there's a trust. There's a trust with Dark Realm
TV with the Native American community. The short that was

(01:05:11):
just put up this last week was again part of
the Native American community that trust us. And that's what
is I think the most satisfying for us is the trust,
the trust that we continue to have from all the
groups Paranormal, Crypti, UFO, Urban Legend, all that stuff, and

(01:05:34):
the indie filmmakers and the podcasters you know we have
obviously we have you guys on we have podcasts from
all over the world on Dark Realm TV. And it's
the trust. It's the trust that people are instilling in
us to be able to put out their content so
that everybody else can see their stuff. Is what is

(01:05:55):
satisfying to us that we're doing the right thing.

Speaker 10 (01:06:00):
And Bear claud just said it's true, but we have
naty laws and that's the thing about that the other
networks wouldn't recognize that we one hundred percent recognize that
there is everyone is welcome on Dark Realm TV and
their beliefs. We only have a few rules. You'll bash
nobody else. We will not tolerate anybody bashing anybody else
in your episode or anything else. You won't talk bad

(01:06:20):
about people to degrade them. And we put up with
no hate speech whatsoever. Everybody is welcome here whatsoever. I mean,
can we pick on each other, We write each other
backside like crazy, give each other hell, but we never whatever,
bash any other community. There's you cannot do that on
our network. That's pretty much our only things. You're free

(01:06:41):
to do what you want to do. You're free to
film your style, You're free to edit your style. It
is your content. But we will not take hate speech.
We will not tolerate bashing other people. We want to
tolerate bashing other locations.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
If you have those things, you can do.

Speaker 7 (01:06:56):
That, you do it on your own thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
You don't do it on here, not with our network
and whatever. And that's the thing. And what I was
saying about curtis you're definitely allowed to swear in my lives.
I mean, I'm the I'm pretty vulgar at times, and
I have to apologize to the ladies often so my
mother's in heaven going really Richard, But no, my point
was mine too, is like, oh my god, what happened here?

(01:07:19):
Good lord, you bother, you know what happens.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
But she was she was a Catholic school teacher, so
I know she was like, oh Lord Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
You're working over time. Sorry, mom, But my point was
on Thursday nights. Yeah, we're on there, but it's not
just us, guys. You get to see us anyways. Go
on doc Round TV and see all the other stuff
that we're talking about. The Wednesday night wrestling, right and
and what you guys that quit synopsis in your head
or a list in your head of what you actually

(01:07:49):
have on your network? Do you even at this point, No,
because you've got a lot come in, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
I mean as far as as far as shows, I mean,
we've got a We've got a ton, And that's actually
the the hard part about running the network is loading
the shows and getting people on and then getting new
stuff and running. So, I mean, we have a ton
of different paranormal shows. We definitely have the Bigfoot shows.

(01:08:19):
We would love to have more UFO content, So if
you have UFO content or shows or anything like that,
we would love. We are going to get a few
more indie films here in the next week or two.
We also run a lot of the old classic horror movies,

(01:08:40):
which I love that shit, I love that ship. But
you know, and then the podcast we have a ton
of different podcasts on there. We got Animal, We've got
you Guys, We've got Spooky Japan. I mean, we've got
a ton of different different stuff. So our channel basically

(01:09:03):
is the Netflix of where Fear lives, and it has
a ton of different listing. It has a ton of
different stuff. If you have some if you have a company,
or you have a hundred location, or you have something
like that and want to be a sponsor. Right now,
we are doing a one hundred dollars sponsor for the year.
We will upload your logo on the on the app.

(01:09:28):
It is the first thing that pops up when you
click on the app. We will run your logo. So
if your logo, your contact information, whatever, if you want
to add a video to it, it'd be two fifty.
But that two fifty runs for the year on our network.
It's cheap advertising. It's it's you know again, we try

(01:09:50):
to make this as affordable as possible. With the four
ninety nine a month or forty nine ninety nine for
the year. If you do the yearly subscription. You're basically
getting two mo. It's free. Plus we actually give you
seven day trial to go ahead and check out the
check out the channel, so you still have to click

(01:10:11):
on it. You still have to say yes, I want
to do the monthly or the yearly whatever, but nothing
will be charged for that first seven days. So we'll
give you seven days to look at our content, see
if this is what you like, see if this is
what you what you want to see, and then it'll
go into automatically charging that your payment information. But we

(01:10:33):
want you to feel comfortable. And it's not for everybody.
People get on there be like this isn't it. I
totally get it. Thanks for giving us an opportunity, Thanks
for trying us out. Like I said, seven days is
on us. And you know, but I guarantee you once
you get on there and start checking it out, you'll stay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Yeah, you're gonna find You're gonna find something that you
like this. This is too much on that so vast.
I mean you got to go just go check it out.
Like you said, jump on the seven day trial. Check
it out, man, have a good time with it. Check
out all the other stuff, man. Yeah, not just wrestling, though,
what kind of wrestling?

Speaker 6 (01:11:17):
Inhumane? Inhumane?

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
They beat the snot out of each other with all
kinds of different items, and.

Speaker 6 (01:11:29):
See, here's the thing, here's the thing. So you know
what we're going to be next week. We are going
to be at uh Scared City Productions Hian Nation three Kergold, Arkansas. Now,
dark Age is part of Inhumane Championship Wrestling, and they've

(01:11:51):
called out dark Realm TV. You guys believe that ship
like they're calling us out and they're saying that they're
actually gonna change the name from Darkroom V the dark
Age TV by the time they're done with us. Now
we're going to Paragold, Arkansas with the high On Nation
with Santiago Cirillo and a bunch of the other guys,
and we're gonna show the dark Age just exactly who's

(01:12:16):
behind dark Realm TV. So dark Age, if you're watching this,
we're bringing, We're bringing it, and we're whooping that ass,
who whooping that ass.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Whoop that ass, Whoop that ass, whoop that ass. Just
a beatbox time.

Speaker 6 (01:12:41):
That was definitely that was definitely East Coast style.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Brother for sure, no doubt. Man, That's how we roll,
right Jason, tell me this because a lot of people
that are probably watching don't realize that you're an actor
and that you've been in some movies. Right, how many
movies you've been in? And and and is it basic?
What was it? What? What? What is the the genres?

(01:13:04):
That's the word I'm looking for that that you do
as far as acting goes horror.

Speaker 6 (01:13:16):
Not to be confused with my only Fans page.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
That's horror also, but go ahead. It is.

Speaker 6 (01:13:26):
Like he has a cookie, right, No, No, it's it's
the majority of it's all indie, indie films. I've done
a lot over the years with Lost Bastards Productions, just
a lot of different production companies. Most of the movies

(01:13:46):
that I'm in right now are streaming on like h
to Be Amazon a big one right now. Never Blink
by the Booth Brothers is on every single platform. I'm
It's like DirecTV, Spectrum, Apple, all the all the big ones.
I'm in it that much. But I'm still in it, right,

(01:14:08):
I'm still in it. No, but I honestly it's all
indie horror. Usually I've done probably the past ten plus
years I've been involved in god probably fifteen or twenty
different films. I love it. It's uh, it's a lot
of different. It's it's a lot of fun. It gets

(01:14:30):
me out of my day to day stuff here And uh,
that's why of these guys always call me Hollywood. It's
I haven't been in any Hollywood flicks. I haven't been
in anything like that. But yeah, yeah, I've made a
lot of connections and friends over the biggest one, the
biggest one I can say to do with, Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
I'm sorry, Hey, we'll get you in the film.

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
But my my brother, my brother, my brother Scott, my
brother Scott Tepperman from Ghost Centers International. He's also part
of Lost Bastards Productions. Him and Jim O'Rear and started
that production company years ago, and we have built the
Cool Summer Franchise which is out on to be Amazon

(01:15:22):
all the all that fowsome. It's on that as well,
but we have I helped produce and I actually am
one of the main characters in that franchise. And we've
had my wife be or my wife, my wife Tanya
is in the house, my wife on film, Beatrice Buppley,

(01:15:45):
who's Amanda Krueger, Freddy Krueger's mom, and I barn Elms
Street five. We've had Santiago Sorillo was Julio on and
Walking Dead. He's been in UH three and four. We
just had Courtney Gaines who was My Children of the Corn.
We had Rochelle Davis who was Sarah from The Crow.
We've had John Dougan who was Grandpa in the original

(01:16:08):
Leather Face. We've had Foolisha Rose who was in sleep
Away Camp, Terrifier two, Terrifier three, now.

Speaker 9 (01:16:15):
You know, Hollywood, Yeah, we've had.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
I can't I can't see him to get this damn
common off the screen. Well, I think I think it's stuck.
It stuck.

Speaker 6 (01:16:28):
I've done. I've done the movies with Todd Bridges, Robert Lozardo,
Betsy Rue, Mark Price who was Skippy from Family Ties,
just all in that lost Bastard's genre. Like I said,
Never Blink is on a ton of different streaming platforms.
That's a Booth Brother production which I helped facilitate, which

(01:16:50):
most of it was filmed here in Toledo at the
Collingwood Arts Center, which I also helped do all the
paranormal stuff there and all the conventions. Just you know,
I love to get back to the community here and
I love to bring people in, which is why we
do the conventions every year and and that kind of stuff.

(01:17:11):
But yeah, acting has been something fun for me over
the past ten plus years. And like I said, I've
there's I think there's five or six on two B
and Amazon, Fowsome, you know, and all the other big
streaming networks. But it's it's just it's fun for me.
I enjoy it. There's a lot of different challenges with

(01:17:33):
acting and things like that, but I I love doing it.

Speaker 9 (01:17:38):
And that's why we write his coattails.

Speaker 7 (01:17:40):
And I could say that I was in a my
centennial play back in nineteen seventy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Six, Jesus shit, and just think he was and just
think he was fifty then yeah, right, you know, and and.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
Richie were in a movie. We were who we were
called the Hidden.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
We were okay, yeah us Hide?

Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
Were you Sam?

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Yeah? So so yeah, so Sam, That's what I was
gonna say. Well, one thing that Woe pointed on. He
told me that Joe was actually in The Wizard of
Ows Is that true?

Speaker 10 (01:18:14):
It was?

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
He he was.

Speaker 6 (01:18:15):
If you're looking at the town when they're when they're
tracing around the Ruby Slipper, he's the fourth one back
on the left. He's also in Waka.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:30):
Yeah, Joe do it for him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
He's the woman.

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
I know. He can't do the whole thing because he's
he's understirred guidelines where he can't sing the whole song
because then he gets fined. But he can he can
do the h.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
That's all he can do the background. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Right, So I would produce Sam is in Mallet two.
And I believe Sam me if I'm wrong, your husband
and yourself get murdered gruesomely. She she dies very well.
If you need anybody to die in a.

Speaker 6 (01:19:08):
Movie, we're always looking for people to die.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Sam should die amazingly. Guys, get over to Uh well,
I think it's on Prime. She said, Mallet too, and
watch Sam die. It's amazing. It's just a gruesome, bloody,
gory death.

Speaker 6 (01:19:27):
It's just amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
So yeah, she's she's very talented, and I would love
I'm getting this vision. I speak to you as creators.
You know how this goes, right, you getting these little
seeds in your head as the words. Yeah. So I
would love Sam to go on back Round TV, even
if it's like twice a month, right, and have spooky
stories with Sam, and Sam comes in and narrate. She
narrates all my videos. Your your guest, Merciall is her

(01:19:51):
voice and that. Yeah, and she has she has a
whole series of different and Sam, don't act like you
don't have enough content, because you do. She has content
where she tells spooky stories about like the crackling fire
screen you or something perfect for doc Realm TV. I think, great, Yeah,
I think we need to get an hour producers, Sam
over to doc Realm TV to have her own time

(01:20:12):
on that. And like I said, to build up, maybe
it's once a month, twice a month, you know, you
have whatever peky stories with Sam and then and then boom,
maybe she kicks off and goes even further. So there
you go. Done.

Speaker 10 (01:20:23):
Because I am the old man here, that's true. I
still believe and I think that storytellers are a dying art.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
It really is.

Speaker 7 (01:20:31):
Yeah, you said, because I was a kid growing up.
I remember my dad d well, Joe.

Speaker 6 (01:20:39):
It started. It started with the chisel and then went
to the pigeon, and then it went.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
To the radio.

Speaker 7 (01:20:44):
But I like Joe, we spent I like, well, Joe,
I grew up hunting and fish.

Speaker 10 (01:20:48):
I grew up in the woods, my family farm and stuff,
and it was always a big bonfire every night and
people telling stories. You're on the fire and that that
kind of communication is a dying art. So to have
one that likes to tell the stories and to narrate
him and bring it to life is an amazing thing
to me.

Speaker 7 (01:21:05):
And to have something like that on the network. I'm
with you, Richie, I think you'd be a great.

Speaker 6 (01:21:11):
And think and think about this. Because we just had
our very good front Eric who runs Uncomfortable podcast. He
was wanting to put a bunch of stuff on, but
some of his stuff doesn't have video, and I'm like,
you know, we were all like, we don't care because
how many people get home from work turn the TV on.

(01:21:33):
I turn it on and then and then go into
the kitchen and start making food or cooking or whatever.
So you're listening, you're listening to what's on the TV,
but you're not paying attention to the actual shit that's
happening on TV. Well why not why not do that?
Why why not have a podcast where it's just audio?
Why not have somebody that's doing a book or whatever

(01:21:57):
in the background with the crackling fire or whatever. So
you click on that, the crackling fires on your TV
and you're listening to somebody tell the story as you're
cooking dinner, or as you're preparing stuff, or as you're whatever.
That's absolutely we will put your content just on the network.

Speaker 10 (01:22:15):
With every urban legend, there's always a nugget of the
truth of where it all started. Is finding that nuggetive truth,
which makes it the investigation part.

Speaker 7 (01:22:24):
Of it so much more enjoyable.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
It's it's a lot of fun. My next line of
question for you guys, right, you know, I know you've
done paranormal Have you ever ever ever been out research
and soasquatch or anything else any type.

Speaker 6 (01:22:39):
Of Jay's the only one. I mean, I've been out
having fun with it. But if you're talking like true
research kind of stuff, Jay's the only one. Jay was
part of the one of the founding fathers of the
North American dog Man Project and all that shit. Well,
I can say founding fathers because he's that old to
be a founding.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Yeah, North American dog Man Project, Is that what you said?

Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
Yeah, it's an organization that was started, oh god, ten
years ago. Uh, is one of the He's been a
big Bigfoot in.

Speaker 10 (01:23:14):
The big vi community. He's a huge researcher in the
big Foot community. Joddy Cook, He's wrote like seventeen books
on bigfoot. He's a retired US Army UH. But he
started got a hold of me and some others, and
then we started what was called the North American dog
Man Project because dog man has been increased in sightings.
And we had a research team called the dog Boys
and had our logo, and I was the tracker because
I grew up in the hunting and fish and all

(01:23:35):
other things. And we travel around the area, especially in Ohio, Kentucky,
went to the land between the Lakes and other places,
researching a lot on the dog man because you know,
the whole misconception whether a dog man is a is
a werewolf. It's a completely different creature. Werewolves changed with
the lunar cycle and the part human. Dog man's like
bigfoots that creature all the time. And like somebody said earlier,
there was some in the way back in the chat

(01:23:57):
that there were some more sunnings in the UK. So
it started out up with just North American dog Man
Project and this now went UH international and we have
we had chapters. I've had to check because I've not
been involved with him since we've been to dark Rum TV.
It's pretty busy with this. I've not had a chance
to keep over what's going with the group. But we
did have chapters in every single state of the Union.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
That's crazy. I was unaware of that because we're just
starting to get into like the dog Man thing, right, See,
Jody Cook is awesome and and so it's no, it's
been yeah, right, it's been. It's been kind of leading
to that with our research. Will Joe and I's research.
I don't know, at least, it's so many things.

Speaker 10 (01:24:36):
But see, I got when when I first got involved
with the big Foot community, I got in imagine that
I got in huge trouble. I had a bunch of
them just absolutely just tried your best to run me
out the paranormal. But I I came up with the theory.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
And just the theory.

Speaker 10 (01:24:53):
I'm like, look, we've all seen while all of us
older people have seen that Harry and the Hnderson's Okay,
Harry and the Henderson's remember, okay, he remember the movie.
At the end of that movie when they let Harry
go back to the woods as he's walking away, the
female steps up, and then the little child did put

(01:25:15):
steps up. You can't see that they were even there.
So I'm like, who's the saying interdimensional of that stuff?
Who's to say that it's not along the line of
the fay folk and they're always here and that and
when we because we're such destructive creatures of this planet,
that all these things will come known to us once
we start taking care of our planet again like we're
supposed to, once we start living harmoniously with our planet

(01:25:37):
like we're supposed to, and that they will all come
to the thing like we're trying to turn into fairies
and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
I'm like, no, I'm trying to give you another.

Speaker 10 (01:25:45):
Theory that they're always here and the whole reason why
we don't see them is because if I make a
proper Gilli.

Speaker 7 (01:25:50):
Suit, and I have to make it the right way
and make it to the right environment.

Speaker 10 (01:25:53):
That I'm in, you could be within a foot of
me and not know why was there as long as
I didn't move or make a sound. Right, that's us
imitating nature. So now you're telling me that nature can't
do it. Where do we get the idea from we're
imitating nature. Ye, so you're telling me that nature could
have their own creatures there that we don't know because
they don't want to know us.

Speaker 11 (01:26:13):
If they're if they are an intelligent creature, they know
how to destruct your work anything that that mexicst threat,
And we destroyed kill black bears are all and wolves
and all them were almost distored off this plant because
they were a threat to us.

Speaker 10 (01:26:26):
So if I would take it as a threat, I
would want to destroy it. According to the human species,
I wouldn't be found either.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
I was.

Speaker 9 (01:26:35):
I have ever been like ventured down no way?

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
What what is your percentage of believability? Joe on Bigfoot?
Be honest, It's okay. We're not here to impress nobody.
I mean, I mean look at.

Speaker 9 (01:26:48):
You, yeah right, you know, I kind of like when
I started the Paranormal I was like, okay, this is
all bullshit. Right then I had some things happened to
me that you know, I come from a law enforcement,
military background, so I mean I would go way out

(01:27:13):
of my way to try to prove something, you know,
try to prove it, you know, logical. And I got
to the point where there were some things happening that
like I I had no explanation none at all. Being
with these guys and and kind of getting a little
bit more hearing more about the whole Bigfoot and encryptid stuff.

(01:27:35):
I'm not going to completely dismiss it, but I am
a I got to see it to believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Percentage percentage, Joe, percentage numbers, come on, spit it out.
Almost said that for just me.

Speaker 7 (01:27:48):
I'll be bad guys.

Speaker 9 (01:27:48):
Twenty five thirty, don't well I was going to talk
about well, I'll talk about it anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
So twenty believability on Bigfoot? Ye, okay, all right, So
if it was around forty, you could have stayed right.
We'll bring them back.

Speaker 6 (01:28:09):
I'm gonna so. So I never you know, I obviously
you look at Bigfoot, you look at all that stuff.
I've never actually been out tracking and that kind of thing.
I've been snipe unting a few times, but never out
checking out checking out Bigfoot. Anyway, and Jay just left.
We were in Traverse City, Michigan years ago, kind of

(01:28:34):
years ago, probably five years ago. Had to have been
pre COVID, so maybe six years ago. We all went out,
couples went up for the weekend to have some line
and just get away and just do our thing. And
we were staying on a on a resort that had

(01:28:56):
like a little beach and then went out into the lake.
I kind of trolled out there. It was cold. I
trolled out there, you know. Jay was like, oh, come
out with you. So Jay started walking out with me.
There was nobody else out there. It was it was
in the colder season, so obviously the lake was not

(01:29:22):
comfortable water, if you will.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
And we walked out it.

Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
Was it would definitely shrivel left, left the phones, left
all that stuff. I didn't want to drop anything. We
got out quite a ways. My wife's on the beach.
Teresa's on the beach. You know, they're talking. Well, we
get out quite a long ways. So we walked out,

(01:29:50):
got up on a sand bar, walked over the sand bar,
kept going out a little bit. We're about chest I
but this is crystal clear water. And as we're walking,
you know, we're talking and bullshitting and whatever. And I
had looked down and in the sand in front of

(01:30:11):
me was a footprint about the size of my chest.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
And it was it was a.

Speaker 6 (01:30:25):
Like as if some big ass person would have stepped
into the sand in the water. Now, mind you. We
are chest high way out yeah, clear water. I looked
down and I'm like Jay, He's like, oh what the fuck.
I'm like, dude, what is this? And he looked down

(01:30:46):
and I looked down and like I said, it was
about chest wide, but it was a huge footprint in
the sand in the water, and we had walked just
a little bit farther and there was another one, and
it was, like I said, it was one of those

(01:31:06):
things where can I prove it? No? Did he and
I experience it?

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:31:12):
I didn't take my phone. He didn't take his phone
because we're out being dumb and cold ass weather, didn't
want to drop the ship. We're just out being stupid.
But it was enough to look at both of those
that were separated by quite a bit distance that it
was like, you know what, I don't know what made that,

(01:31:36):
and it was a perfect imprint in the sand that
I'm like, we are so far away from help and
with whatever is, I.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Don't you know, follow it?

Speaker 7 (01:31:52):
What we did try to follow it, trusted.

Speaker 6 (01:31:55):
Yeah, I mean it was.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
What was was the print though.

Speaker 8 (01:32:02):
You know, if it's cold out and you're on the sand,
you know, obviously sand is pretty pretty hard by Now,
what would you say that it.

Speaker 6 (01:32:09):
Just look just looking at it, it would be like
if if a human were to have stepped in the sand.

Speaker 7 (01:32:16):
And or wet mud, it had half dip into the
push and you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Weren't leaving, and you weren't leaving that mock it was.

Speaker 8 (01:32:28):
It was.

Speaker 6 (01:32:29):
It was as big as my chest, I mean I
wear I wear a size eleven and it was wide.
I mean it was. It was definitely not somebody that
was out there that had walked through that just decided
not to walk anymore because there was one and there
was two and then there wasn't anything else. So then

(01:32:50):
Jay and I started talking to you know, like when
would this have happened? Like how do we document it?
We can't, we don't have anything to take pictures, you know.
We talked a little bit, and then we actually turned
around and started heading back in because like I said,
we were we were out quite a way. As we
walked out, went over a sand dune and then kept
walking out again. So it wasn't like this area was

(01:33:14):
traveled by eight foot people that would just be out
there fucking walking around and the sand like it was
the biggest footprint I had ever seen my dad was
six seven, my uncle was six'. Nine like I've i've
obviously didn't get that from any of my. FAMILY i
got it from my mom's. Family but the footprint in

(01:33:39):
the sand was so clean and, clear but it was
so big that it wasn't even close to being anything
that we as humans would have. Left.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
Yeah, no that's and and that's you, know you talk
about the personal experiences person and being law. Enforcement now
what kind of law enforcement did you?

Speaker 8 (01:33:59):
Do?

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Ja?

Speaker 6 (01:34:00):
Jason right, NOW i am twenty nine years into The sheriff's.
DEPARTMENT i have done everything from booking to, courts to
warrant units to NOW i. Do i'm in the Sex
Offender Arson Violent Offender. UNIT i work a lot WITH

(01:34:22):
FBI Us Marshall's state or you know. That that's that's
WHAT i do, now.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Right And, joe did you mention that you were in law?
ENFORCEMENT i.

Speaker 9 (01:34:31):
WAS i was for a few years down In.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
Kentucky was it, Sheriff, no it was local. Local. Yeah
so SO i guess my point in asking that to
you guys, is AND i, SAY i preach us all
the time on my, lives the circumstantial evidence that we
have BECAUSE i got news for. Everybody we're in a
non scientific. Field everything you have is, circumstantial you know
WHAT i, Mean like there's, nothing there's nothing you have

(01:34:55):
unknown MAYBE dna somewhere you might. Have you, know you
have castings of prints and. Stuff and by the, way
rest in, Peace Jeff. Meldrerim thank you for all your
hard work on the big, community, brother but love to
your family and Now god speed my. BROTHER a lot
of good things. Man, so but that's all circumstantial. STUFF
i have a cabinet over here just jammed with. Stuff

(01:35:15):
AND i don't know if if you guys watch the,
show we give all peanut butter and, zingers and The
zinger rap is a torn open and the peanut butter
is wiped. Clean and you, know we have all these
things going. On we have recordings from a recorder up
underneath the magnetized of the. Chair we can hear them.
Conjugating we can hear them kind of almost communicating with each.
Other you can hear The zinger rap as, opening, right

(01:35:36):
and we know what's going. On but presented that circumstantial,
evidence whether you like it or. Not and and and
a personal experience is circumstantial. Evidence you can weed out. Hoaxes.
Man you know you've been trained to weed out hoaxes technically, hoaxes,
right liars and scumbags and, thieves, Right.

Speaker 6 (01:35:56):
And today that's The that's the thing is it's in.
Water it's in chest deep water out over a, sandbar
like There's it's not like it was in top tourist
season up by the shore where somebody could have taken.
Something this was way out for no damn. Reason what's

(01:36:18):
like we were out there in it just because we
were fucking dumb and being out in cold ass. Water
Because i'm, Like i'm gonna wait out in cold fucking.
Water jay's, like, well if you're gonna do, It i'm
gonna do.

Speaker 10 (01:36:28):
It, jason he likit of, clothes but he kept give
me a hard time by not being out there and
kept calling my. Assistance SO i just gave you my
pockets and went fully dressed and my jeans and boots and.

Speaker 9 (01:36:37):
EVERYTHING i wouldn't have been able to do. THAT i
would have had to have the little floaties.

Speaker 6 (01:36:41):
On my you'd have had. Floaties but LIKE i, said
how how clean it was in the sand and how
clear the water, Was And i'm just like, holy like holy, shit,
like this isn't like the.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
Messing with.

Speaker 8 (01:37:03):
Me But, JASON i, like if you've seen something like,
that did you get did you guys bother to, come you,
know back again and just you, know kind of do
a follow up and you know when it's better weather.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
And things like.

Speaker 6 (01:37:16):
That AND i HAVE I i would love TO i
had we we go out there a couple of times
a year for the line and all. That, yeah it's
so so Up Traverse city area and that kind of.
Stuff it's more of a touristy. Area and LIKE i,

(01:37:39):
said we we haven't been back up there for that, reason.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
AND i AND i.

Speaker 6 (01:37:44):
Don't and that was the other thing is there was
no way to mark that area for us to go
back and get the ship to go back out unless
we want somebody out there behind.

Speaker 7 (01:37:57):
The hotel or the abb that we're.

Speaker 10 (01:38:00):
Asked we had a general idea where it was, at
AND i would love to get back at travers, it
but to be able to do it without being interrupted
or having to fight a bunch of other, people we'd
have to go back about the same time of year
when most same civilized people are dumbassesn't out there waiting
in the, water right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Right and one THING i want to tell you is
we Have jason KENZIE i don't you know if you're
aware Of jason Kenzie h searchings for a sasquatch on
YouTube and stuff like. That he's out and.

Speaker 7 (01:38:25):
There's a couple of conferences At, Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Yeah, exactly and he's in he's In england right now
filming with our Buddy Ben kennerley and they're doing. Stuff
but one of the things that really got him going
was DURING covid they were on lockdown up In canada
And British columbia where he's, from and he was a
filmmaker and he was doing, uh nature animals and things like, that,
right and he wanted to get out into the woods

(01:38:51):
and he started using his drone and stuff for, footage
trying to get that crop footage or whatever that you
can use. Wherever and he goes over this, pond this
lake or whatever it. Was and when he got above,
it after looking at the video and, stuff the pond
had footprints all the way through. It but it was
like a regular, one like a Crystal now you're talking mountain, water,

(01:39:14):
right cold cold spring spring, water crystal.

Speaker 6 (01:39:16):
Clan but you can see it was like a.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Highway there was like AND i got the picture, somewhere
but all these prints were going like this all over the,
place and just because he was in a, drone he
could see. It and he's, like what the hell could
be walking in that?

Speaker 6 (01:39:29):
Water and that's and that's WHAT i said To. Jay i'm,
like what what big ass animal has made? These and
but the other part that really kind of fucked me
up was it just. Stopped there wasn't like any before,
it and there wasn't anything that we could, see you
know WHAT i, Mean there wasn't anything that we kind

(01:39:50):
of we kind of traped, back couldn't see anything before,
it couldn't see really anything as you would find it.
Something it was just a cup full of big ass
like it was almost like it was like fucking, yeah
and then. Left but there Wasn't we couldn't find anything before,
it we couldn't find anything after. It and THEN i

(01:40:13):
got to talking To jay And i'm, like whatever made
that is an extremely large, thing and it's just you
AND i out here hanging out in this fucking head
ass water like we're looking back at we're looking back
at our wives are on the, beasts like, nada were,
LIKE i have no, idea they have no idea what
we're doing out. Here i'm, like you know, WHAT i

(01:40:35):
guess probably we should maybe start making our way, back
BECAUSE i mean we waited out for what jay fucking twenty.
MINUTES i mean we were. Out we were, Out LIKE i,
said we went, out went over the, sand and then
went out more were.

Speaker 9 (01:40:52):
They were a little toy kid because if something would
have jumped out and got you, guys they would have
grabbed your phones and filmed.

Speaker 6 (01:40:58):
It that's, true would that we were we were out
so far jo that they wouldn't even they'd been, like,
oh where'd they? GO i don't understand why they're not?

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
There oh my, god that's so far. Away they look
like two Little joe's.

Speaker 6 (01:41:13):
Right and then they would have, been, well we got
their wallets and their, phones so, anyway, right we got
we got rooms and. Whatever so. Them but, yeah that's
that is honestly my one and. ONLY i, Mean i've

(01:41:36):
been walking through the woods and hurting seeing some dumb
ship over the years of hunting with my dad and
hunting with my cousins and all, that but never anything like.
That that was My that was my one and only like.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Like what what is?

Speaker 6 (01:41:53):
That and that's WHY i, said jam, Like, jay look
at the. Footprint he's like, Still i'm Like, jay, no, dude.
Seriously and he came. Over he was, like, YEAH i don't,
know uh what the funk that? Is because LIKE i,
said it, was it was it. Was it was substantially
larger than our and LIKE i, SAID i wear a

(01:42:14):
size eleven and it was substantially larger than.

Speaker 10 (01:42:19):
Language and talked about it passed away that his pictures
they showed me hold that they can't.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Ye it was it was like.

Speaker 7 (01:42:25):
That it was that perfect of a print in the.
Sand it's half the one that's deep into the.

Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
Sand SO i don't know where you're. At. Jay So,
jason does that help you have? Percentages and what where
do you? Land? No what are?

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
You?

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
Jason i'm? Sorry watch the.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
Show joe watched the, Show Bro.

Speaker 6 (01:42:48):
Bro jesus.

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
SMOKE i got my add going on.

Speaker 6 (01:42:55):
A Woes it's dark RUM tv with.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
The Lips, Jason, Jason, OH i you know WHAT i.

Speaker 6 (01:43:08):
Am after that, EXPERIENCE i. Am i'm a ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Guy.

Speaker 6 (01:43:13):
Man i'm good because there's there's there Is i'm all
about and and we are all about why would that?
Be what would have made? That if it would have
just been a little larger than my, Foot i'd have been, Like,
okay there was a bigger motherfucker out here walking around
in this in. Whatever it was so much bigger and

(01:43:38):
so much wider than an average. Footprint THAT i. Am
But i'm also the guy THAT i think it would
be silly to believe that we are the only things
walking or inhabiting this, earth whether it be extraterrestial uh,

(01:44:00):
uh you, know, bigfoot anything like. THAT i think that
there is enough energy and enough things, happening and enough
different dimensions on a daily basis anyways THAT i think
it would be silly for us to think that we're
the only ones hanging.

Speaker 10 (01:44:21):
Out but BUT i also say that that it's also
illness on our part because you, KNOW i use it
with with people with putting ON. Investi you, know you
say the WORD, orb most people are, like, oh, okay you,
know because naughty well And joe does.

Speaker 7 (01:44:35):
That that's the reaction to the majority of gifts as
you say AN.

Speaker 10 (01:44:37):
Orb AND i asked the people THAT i know that
are on them that are filmmakers and also ex for
some photography.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
And the older style came photography.

Speaker 10 (01:44:45):
Stuff i'm, like, so my question, is is you're saying
that absolutely none of these orbs could ever be, anything
that out of a million, orbs none could be. Nothing they,
said well one of them might, be so. Said, now
what you're telling me is it's not the fact that
they that none of them could possibly. Eatin it's effect
that you're too lazy or we're too arrogant to go
view one. Million so because if we don't want to

(01:45:05):
look at nine hundred, nine nine ninety nine that aren't,
anything we just dismissed them. All there's nothing to do with.
Effect there might be. Something there's everything with our arrogance
and our inability and patience to actually follow the, evidence
same as anything.

Speaker 9 (01:45:20):
Else, SEE i want AND i can want AND i
get something like that LIKE i. Have you, Know jason
And jay AND i have talked about it numerous. Times
it's just never been something THAT i have had that. Opportunity,
right you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Won't go in the, woods THOUGH i will if enough
people go with, Me i'll. Go i'll take, You, Okay i'll.

Speaker 6 (01:45:40):
GO i got, LOOK i GOT i got the. Backpack,
Joe i'll put you on the. BACKPACK i, mean walk
into the woods and we'll we'll take you. There my
thing has always been going off of What jay just.
Said you, know you do a lot of these, conventions
And i've been doing. Conventions we've all been doing conventions for.
Years and you always get the people that come up
and be, Like, HEY i want to show you a.

(01:46:01):
Video it's AN orb that went over my granddaughter's, head
and my mom had just passed two weeks, ago AND
i think it's my grandma or my mom or whatever
that's flying over my daughter or. WHATEVER i want you
to look at the. VIDEO i will look at the
video and THEN i will ask them, this what do

(01:46:24):
you think it? Is and if they, SAY i believe
that's my grandma protecting my daughter or, whatever then that's
exactly what it. Is how AM i going to tell
you that it's just a piece of dust or moisture or.
Whatever you walked through and kicked up some dust and

(01:46:46):
that flew Over and who AM i to tell you
that it isn't your grandma who it's not your, mother
it's not your, daughter it's not your, son it's not.
Whoever who AM i to tell you? That what do
you believe it. Is if you believe that it's your
mom or, whoever then that's who it.

Speaker 7 (01:47:05):
Is if it brings you that, piece and it brings
you Like, africa and you deserve that, moment you know.

Speaker 9 (01:47:09):
WHAT i had a turning point along those. LINES i
was doing a convention back WHEN i was With Zee Talk,
radio AND i don't remember where we, were but that
was back in my uh my heyday OF i.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
WAS i was.

Speaker 9 (01:47:27):
Ruthless people would show me quote evidence AND i tore it,
apart tore it. Apart and we were sitting at the
table and we watched this. Guy he had a big
yellow envelope and he's pulling out these photos and he
was going table to, table right AND i was, like oh,
boy here we, go you. Know and he's showing these

(01:47:47):
photos and people were kind of dismissing, him and he'd
put it back an envelope and he'd go to the
next paranormal group or, whatever and everyone's, like, oh, please,
please please don't come over, here Because joe sitting right,
here and sure as, ship here he comes and he's, like, hey,
uh you know you're in the paranormal. Field AND i said,

(01:48:08):
yes and he said do you mind IF i show
you some? Photos AND i AND i AND i was
such a dick at the. TIME i was, like, oh, yeah,
sure let me see what.

Speaker 6 (01:48:17):
You got did and you said out that you said
at the time.

Speaker 9 (01:48:21):
At the, time, yes, okay, yeah just just at that, time.

Speaker 6 (01:48:25):
At that, time at that.

Speaker 9 (01:48:27):
Time so now everyone that everyone that was around us
and with us at the, table they're now they're holding
their breath because they're, like oh, Man joe's gonna get
us kicked out of. Here and he pulls these pictures,
out and of course orbs in these, photos AND i
kind of rolled my eyes and, uh he, said, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
That's my that's my.

Speaker 9 (01:48:49):
Wife And i'm like in the photo WHERE i don't see,
her and he goes THE orb AND i, said oh,
okay and he, goes, yeah she, uh she just died of.
CANCER i want to say it was like within six.
Months and he, GOES i get these photos all the
time in the, house AND i JUST i feel deep

(01:49:12):
down that that's my. Wife my wife is still around.
Me AND i don't, know like it was like at that,
moment his heart grew ten times the, size, Right And i'm,
Like joe's heart Grew, yeah my heart and he's now everybody's,
like oh, shit oh my, god this is going to go.

(01:49:34):
Bad AND i did SOMETHING i had never, done AND
i looked right at the guy AND i was, like
so that's what that's what you wake up every, morning
that's what that's what makes you get through the day
and all. That and he, said, yeah it does like.
That that's that's How i've gotten through, this getting through this.
Morning AND i, said you know, what THEN i would

(01:49:57):
say one hundred you're, right and like you could have
heard a pin drop and everyone was like and he
was and he starts crying And i'm, like Oh, jesus
don't don't do. That and he was, like you know,
what thank. You he's, like you were the first person
that has actually made me feel better about showing people these.

(01:50:20):
Photos AND i was, like, well you, know what if
if that is what you, believe who AM i to
like what they? Said who AM i to tell you
that you're? Wrong you, know we don't know for, sure
which we, don't but you, know and exactly that guy
he was, like, man CAN i hug? You And i'm

(01:50:40):
like that's kind of pushing, it but you, KNOW i
gave this guy a. Hug he sat there and cried
on my shoulder for ten seconds or. Whatever he put
his photos, away shook my hand and went about his you,
know about the, convention and like EVERYONE i knew in
the area that the speechless and they were, like what

(01:51:01):
what was that all? About And i'm, like, again who
AM i to tell him that he's a goat? Nut,
LIKE i, mean if if that is what literally get you.

Speaker 6 (01:51:16):
What you just, said That's, joe That's joe's, words go.

Speaker 9 (01:51:20):
Nut that was one of my words from way back
in the.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
Day. Words first of, all.

Speaker 6 (01:51:28):
Not the, way not the, way not the Way, joe
not the Way joe spells.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
It. Nuts, well that's a list right there that you
just said is a complete horrors, show all? RIGHT i.

Speaker 6 (01:51:40):
AM i am going to print shirts out one of these.
Days it just says dot nut on it and that's.
It but But joe's, RIGHT i, Mean joe's. RIGHT i,
mean who who are we to tell you that that that's,
that that's not your. WIFE i, mean, honestly there's there's
there's so, much there's so, much there's so much stuff out.

(01:52:07):
There i'm just trying to bag my brother up BECAUSE
i mean it is.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
One there's just one for. Everybody, Okay So, Jason i'm,
sorry but my audience is absolutely enthrallednut.

Speaker 9 (01:52:24):
That that is WHAT i used to call people back
in my dickhead days.

Speaker 6 (01:52:30):
Yesterday he still does it, today like you, know it's
not just back in the. Day you, know it was
yesterday those.

Speaker 9 (01:52:37):
People in the the people back in the day with
in the paranormal field that everything was was. Paranormal you,
know every orb had smiley faces on. It, UH i
mean the whole the whole nine yards and. Everything that's
WHERE i started calling people goat, Nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:52:59):
Question And i'm sure you can do Many, YEAH i,
know can you? Can you can obviously pick up what
is a an orb in the picture to be front
to what is an?

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
Orb but what is a maybe like a you, know some,
dust a bog or a draft or all.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
That? Yeah, yeah do you believe it was an actual?

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
Awe you?

Speaker 9 (01:53:21):
KNOW i you, know obviously watch it. Investigating i've been
in plenty of basements and addicts and you, know So
i've seen all kinds of of dust and. Stuff, HONESTLY
I i WASN'T i wasn't one hundred convinced either way either.

(01:53:45):
Way but, AGAIN i wasn't going to shoot this guy
down and make this guy feel like ass based on my.
Opinion you know WHAT i mean It, now if would
have had wings on it and ship like, That i'd
have been, Like, okay come, on, Bud.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
BUT i mean, it it WAS i mean it was.

Speaker 9 (01:54:07):
Interesting and WHAT i thought was interesting about his photos is,
like you, know we've all seen DIFFERENT orb photos of
dust and stuff like.

Speaker 6 (01:54:17):
That this.

Speaker 9 (01:54:20):
It was almost like if you took that same QUOTE
orb image and pasted it on multiple, photos so like
there was no difference in that right right that THAT
i could see that one was his and you, know
and that's WHERE i was, like you know, what, MAN
I i can't tell, you LIKE i just can't can't do.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
It, WELL i.

Speaker 4 (01:54:42):
Commend you with the you know that you.

Speaker 8 (01:54:45):
Get you gave it a chance to have that open
mind and listen to his story behind the.

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
Picture.

Speaker 6 (01:54:53):
Yeah, well BUT i, mean, honestly, honestly who are we as,
investigators who are we to tell this man who believes
that this is his wife.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
That it's not it's not your that's.

Speaker 6 (01:55:07):
That's that's not that's not your. Wife it's just some
dust that that you picked up or. Whatever that's that's not,
me that's not. Me if you believe that your wife
is with you and you've captured your wife's energy or
aura or whatever in a, picture and you genuinely believe

(01:55:28):
that that's, her that's, her bro, LIKE i, don't that's
that's not my that's not my call to. Say it's.

Speaker 10 (01:55:39):
Circumstantial you cannot you cannot prove exactly what you said it.
Was you can't disprove disprove what his.

Speaker 7 (01:55:47):
Belief so it's all.

Speaker 8 (01:55:50):
Circumstantial so listening to that person talk and kind of,
like you, know you're getting a good read of the
story Which Joe joe was doing And i'm sure the,
guy you, know maybe it was like real nervous to.

Speaker 4 (01:56:05):
You, know talking about. It but you know you can
tell what someone's trying to b S u with the
story or.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
You, know so on and.

Speaker 6 (01:56:11):
So but HERE'S i, mean here's the. Thing you take
those photos around to all these different paranormal investigators and
a lot of them will be, like, no that's that's
dust and all that's. Automatic you're not you're not looking
at the whole. Picture look at the whole picture as
to what's being given to you and you it's to,

(01:56:33):
me it's arrogance that you think you know exactly what's
in that picture. Exactly there's you, know there's All i'm
a professional paranormal. Event there's no fucking. Professional there's professional
people in certain things that may And, Jay we've we've
talked about this a hundred times on different shows with professional.

(01:56:58):
Investigators you may be a professional with this piece of,
equipment but you're not a professional paranormal. Investigator you're you're
a you're a professional in, tracking or you're a professional
IN e M. F or you're a professional in. This
but there isn't anybody out there a professional paranormal investigator

(01:57:21):
that without a, DOUBT i can go to any place
AND i can talk to spirits AND i can do
this and, that AND i know exactly What I'm i'm
turning this on And i'm talking to these spirits And
I'm i'm a professional BULLSHIT i will call bullshit every
day of the. Week, yeah exactly. Exactly and there and

(01:57:43):
there's and there's a lot Of joe goat nuts out
there will do that ship and that's and that's what
that's what hinders us a lot in the paranormal community
because we all say, that and people are afraid to say.
It we'll all say. It it's it's it's. Bullshit so

(01:58:05):
you can't tell this guy that if he actually believes
that that's his wife in these pictures in his living room,
Whatever how are you going to, Say, no it's not
that's not your, wife, bro that's you walked through earlier
and you kicked up some dust and then you turned
around and you took that picture and it's just a,
dust a piece of, dust and that's not your. Wife

(01:58:26):
so go back to, bed, bro that's not like who.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
You know WHAT i?

Speaker 6 (01:58:32):
Mean who AM i.

Speaker 4 (01:58:34):
To tell?

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
You, yeah that's, above that's above on the spiritual. Scale
as just. Investigating it's one thing difference between you and another,
researcher you know WHAT i. Mean but when they present
it to you like, that you know WHAT i? Mean
did you hug?

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
Them?

Speaker 1 (01:58:47):
JOE i?

Speaker 7 (01:58:48):
DID i, Did And joe's not a touchy.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
PERSON i do not.

Speaker 4 (01:58:52):
Get was it like like a distant reach around or
it was a Good, no.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
It was it was a nose to belly button. Hug.

Speaker 6 (01:59:04):
Yeah. Right we've had, actually we've had a couple of
different experiences where when we were filming With. Bodine we
were out filming With bodine The. Bigfoot everybody Knows bodine The.
Bigfoot if you don't know about in The Bigfoot, god
please check him out On. Facebook he. Is, okay do

(01:59:28):
we need to fill a question BEFORE i talk about something?

Speaker 1 (01:59:31):
ELSE i, mean if you want, TO i just put
things up in it and we have fun with. It
you know WHAT i, Mean and you Can bodine and
then we can go to the. Question i'll take it,
Down i'll put it back. UP i don't know if
you've been watching the, Show. JASON i, mean we've only
been here for two, hours, sir this is not.

Speaker 6 (01:59:45):
New is somebody yelling at? ME i don't. Understand, okay
let's answer the goddamn. Question then a serious question for you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Guys i'm gonna ask him, Serious? Jason do you think?
Whatever not just taking someone's word to ensure that you
don't feel feed into something that could be false in some. Cases,
yes that's as serious AS i could answer that ship you.

Speaker 6 (02:00:20):
Were yelling at, me SO i didn't even understand the questions.
Myself the room.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Serious question because you think it might be better to
be cautious on just taking someone's word to to ensure
that you don't feed into something that could be. FALSE
i can CAN i slip off as a researcher answering,
this and then we can move for no disrespect. Intended
so What i'd like to do IS i like to

(02:00:55):
turn that into an educational type of. Research SO i would,
say depending on the, evidence let's go look here and
see if there's something else to, it or let's, go you,
know did this? Happen did you hear? This what came
along with that piece of? Evidence you? KNOW i, mean
have that conversation and say, HEY i would go, back
and then sometimes when you do, that they'll actually, say oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(02:01:17):
no there was something over here that was like what you're,
Saying and then you can start having, dialogue and Then
i'll recommend going back and do it a fall up
kind of Like wojo did with you guys to the
water that you never did you Do? Yahoos SO i.

Speaker 6 (02:01:31):
Can tell YOU i will NEVER i will never discount
or talk down on anybody's personal. Experience so if you
come to my table or you come to our table
and you want to discuss, SOMETHING i am never going
to belittle you were talked down on your. Experience, EVER

(02:01:52):
i wasn't. There so if you're talking to me about
your experience and you want my opinion on your, EXPERIENCE
i will take that experience as something AND i will
address that. Accordingly BUT i will never try to pick
apart or pick a piece of whatever and try to

(02:02:15):
belittle you or whatever on what one on what you're telling,
me BECAUSE i, honestly at the end of the, day
there's we're not gaining anything by. It we're not gaining
anything by you telling me something false for you to
get an answer from me that's, false so that we
can leave the table with answers that are. False SO

(02:02:38):
i WILL i will never not take anybody's experience or
anything from from what it. Is if you come and
talk to us about an, experience we will definitely take
that and address it. Accordingly But I'm i'm Not I'm
i'm not just gonna piece it. Together If i'm taking

(02:03:00):
what you said to me as, real And i'm going
to answer that as real AS i possibly can.

Speaker 8 (02:03:07):
CAN i just add it's a perfectly Said, jason because
once you once you, do like you, know you, lie
you set that precedent amongst yourself and your, team and
that's what you don't. Want and you just want to
be as truthful as you possibly. Can and you, know
sept those ask those, questions so on and so. FORTH i,

(02:03:27):
mean that's you, know and that's what we do in our.
Research and you know there are people like we put
up pictures or. Whatever people are, like there's no bigfoot
in the.

Speaker 4 (02:03:36):
Woods that is not. Bigfoot we didn't say it's bigfoot
or things like.

Speaker 8 (02:03:40):
That we just think we just show unnatural stuff that
things that you, know Be richie ten other guys can't.

Speaker 4 (02:03:47):
Do i'm telling. You and that's why you have that.

Speaker 8 (02:03:52):
Discussion meaning people in the outside should have these discussions
instead of just like shitting on you and saying there
is no big.

Speaker 4 (02:04:00):
Foot well, fine then you tell me why there's no.
Bigfoot does not explain to me why it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (02:04:05):
Exist but, see see.

Speaker 10 (02:04:07):
That's where that's Where i've taken things into a different.
Direction used to ALWAYS i see a lot of people
in the paranormal of the Crepet. Comunia all of them
are defensive of what they're experiencing and whether they're trying
to explain to people about things and people, say, executive
what you're.

Speaker 7 (02:04:18):
Saying, well that's not, true that's not, this or that's not.

Speaker 10 (02:04:20):
That every single, time the majority of the people in
my life That i've, Watched i've always, said, well you,
KNOW i can show you.

Speaker 1 (02:04:26):
THIS i can show That i've flipped the.

Speaker 10 (02:04:27):
SCRIPT i know exactly WHAT i, EXPERIENCED i know exactly
WHAT i, SAW i know exactly what my intelligence level,
is And i've explained to you WHAT i.

Speaker 7 (02:04:35):
Felt SO i asked, him are you are you saying
That i'm?

Speaker 1 (02:04:38):
Mine, Well i'm not saying that you're, mine.

Speaker 4 (02:04:40):
But it couldn't.

Speaker 7 (02:04:41):
Happen, well then show me how it could. HAPPEN i don't.

Speaker 10 (02:04:44):
Know it's no longer my burden to prove to you
WHAT i, experienced on WHAT i saw and WHAT i.
Did if you don't think it, happened show me how
it didn't prove. It then way you educate me on
WHERE i am, wrong because unless you can you can
prove to me That i'm, wrong then my experience.

Speaker 1 (02:05:01):
Wrong You're if you disagreeve about.

Speaker 7 (02:05:03):
That he proved you're now just discredit me and call
me a.

Speaker 1 (02:05:05):
Liar how much job to prove to?

Speaker 7 (02:05:07):
You it's your job now to disprove.

Speaker 1 (02:05:10):
ME i know WHAT i.

Speaker 10 (02:05:11):
WENT i stand on my, WORD i will stand on my,
INTEGRITY i will stand on my honor about, it AND
i will.

Speaker 6 (02:05:17):
Die on that.

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
HILL i had a friend of like forty years pull
this shit on me two weeks ago On, facebook AND
i put it up there and, said explain to me
why there isn't you know WHAT i, Mean explain to.
Me and then he's and basically his answer was the scientific,
thing and you, know and then it was, like you
might believe it, exists but it doesn't. Rich how the
fuck we? Do how the fuck we have in a

(02:05:37):
healthy debate with that, Sentence but, where how the fuck
where do we go from here except shutting up now
and just staring at each.

Speaker 7 (02:05:43):
Other where's the scientific proof that it doesn't?

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
Right exactly What joe? Says Where's.

Speaker 6 (02:05:51):
And that's what you guys were talking about earlier. Day with,
Fishing so you take somebody fishing that's never fished before
you go on, fish you throw worms out or bobbers or,
whatever and you throw them out for fucking four hours
and you don't catch any. Fish so then that person,
goes there's no fucking fish in that. Water, well then
you take them out the next day and you throw all.

(02:06:11):
In the first thing you threw out in the, morning
you're catching the big ass you, know eight foot fucking
catfish or whatever that's on the fucking and now it's,
like oh my, god It's but the day before it's, like,
well there's no fucking there's no there's no fish in that.
Water so it's, LIKE i Don't, yeah it's Like.

Speaker 7 (02:06:31):
I'm from reminded that we no longer have to prove our.
Evidence we know exactly what you're.

Speaker 10 (02:06:37):
Experienced AND i tell people all the time when we're
working with new, people if you the only way that
you can take this experience away from you is if
you allow them to take it from. You you know
what You're you're an, intelligent open, mind you freethinking human.
Being you know exactly what your, experienced and the only
way they can take it from you is you feel
danger gonna what you believe it make make give just

(02:06:59):
predit just that you don't give them the evidence of
the ammunition to do.

Speaker 7 (02:07:03):
That the burden proof is on them to sway. You
you didn't feel, this you didn't see, this you didn't hear.

Speaker 1 (02:07:08):
THAT i got NOTHING i know WHAT i. DID i.

Speaker 9 (02:07:13):
Used to have this argument with my favorite people in
the paranormal field psychics oh, boy, yeah and, boys.

Speaker 6 (02:07:25):
Oh look at look At I'm i'm having some.

Speaker 12 (02:07:28):
Problems but, anyway, sorry but but you know where they already,
know they have already, known.

Speaker 9 (02:07:41):
Were exactly, well you, Know AND i would try to
have debates with people like, that AND i would get
the the typical, Textbook, WELL i know what. HAPPENED i was,
THERE i know what. HAPPENED i talked to the, SPIRITS
i did, this and it's like, okay, Okay and then
what what really jaded me on it, was, well you

(02:08:05):
can read it in my. Book oh, no eat. Me, no,
like let's have a debate about, it you, know let's
let's talk about this and so it it just and
that's WHY i was always jaded when it came to that.
Topic but you, know like what they were saying when
it comes to cryptids Into, bigfoot, RIGHT i don't know.

(02:08:25):
ENOUGH i haven't been around it. ENOUGH i don't have
the experience to one hundred percent be, like oh, no
everyone's full of, shit it doesn't. Exist BUT i want, to,
LIKE i want to go out. THERE i want to
experience That, OH.

Speaker 6 (02:08:41):
I, KNOW i, know but you're you're going to have
to sleep intense with this, show and you're going to
have to actually.

Speaker 1 (02:08:47):
Do hot that's so.

Speaker 9 (02:08:50):
Hot why don't you just go out during the day
that go back?

Speaker 6 (02:08:53):
Home, no, no, no we need and And i'm telling
you an we're gonna Get we're gonna we're gonna come
out for an Extended we're gonna like A, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
sunday and we're gonna come. Out we're gonna camp on
your property and we're gonna be out there for three
or four. Days we're not coming back in to do.

(02:09:14):
Anything what's we're Going we're Gonna we're. Gonna we're gonna
do that shit on your. Property, Brother we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:09:22):
Mattress, yeah buy a. Car so the one THING i
want to touch on with what What jay was saying
when it comes to that, point because it was kind
of like my the PERSON i was talking, about know
him for forty, years streets to hold one yons And i'm,
like what do you you see me as a? Liar
LIKE i HAVE i ever told a story or seek
attention or you, know needed attention or needed friends like you,

(02:09:44):
KNOW i wanted to go, there but THEN i, went
you know, What i'm not even gonna go there because
he's already bypassed, that he's already gone past that he
knows who he's talking. About and he basically just called
me a you, know a liar And i'm delusional like you, said,
right And i'm, like you don't want there's no point
of having that calms. Station so we always say, this, right,
like for, instance look what's behind? Me, right and this
is What i'll show. You uh, here you, guys so

(02:10:07):
you see what's behind? Me, now these are't The zinger
rap as we leave on our gifting, chair every one
of them come back like. This there's no Claw, marx no,
scratchbox no, nothing no, rodents no, nothing, nothing nothing at
all that is torn open like Like Jay lynch was
about to eat. It you understand, that, Right jo right.

Speaker 7 (02:10:25):
Slam that son of?

Speaker 1 (02:10:26):
Us, yeah right, now think of, that right, now think of, that,
Right i'll Show. Zinger so that's, why but it, creates
it should create a respectful conversation of why in the
woods is this thing not torn a pot by a,
squirrel by a, possum by a, raccoon by anything that's out.
There we DON'T i don't want to hear about. Beer

(02:10:47):
shut up about the.

Speaker 7 (02:10:47):
Beer, no, no wait a, Minute i'm gonna ask some
questions on this topic right.

Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
HERE i wait TILL i get to the next. Picture
then you can because they're. Related yeah, Yeah, jay kind
of like your. Cousins and on the other side of,
it there's these what is that?

Speaker 6 (02:11:04):
Fingerprints an alter altar sound of my.

Speaker 9 (02:11:06):
Daughter, no it looks like.

Speaker 7 (02:11:08):
Fingerprints very.

Speaker 1 (02:11:10):
Good, okay you're getting good at. This OH i didn
get this for. Years well and look what's and look
what you been in the now you guys that have
been in the police force or whatever. Else maybe you've
done some investigations and all THAT i did?

Speaker 7 (02:11:24):
Fingerprinted all?

Speaker 1 (02:11:25):
Right do you know? What do you know what's unique
about these? Fingerprints Then i'm not trying to you, know
question your.

Speaker 7 (02:11:30):
You know thor straight lines are not even swirling right?

Speaker 6 (02:11:34):
There the?

Speaker 4 (02:11:37):
Man we got an next.

Speaker 1 (02:11:43):
This wait wait, wait, wait ye go back go back
to the first. Picture that is a twerka right. There
if you go back to the first.

Speaker 10 (02:11:53):
Picture when you picked the things up out of the
woods and you brought them, inside how did.

Speaker 9 (02:11:57):
You bring them?

Speaker 7 (02:11:58):
In what did you, did you?

Speaker 1 (02:11:59):
Sir all? Right so this is the beautiful pot of YouTube,
live is that?

Speaker 7 (02:12:03):
It?

Speaker 1 (02:12:04):
Yeah the beautiful pot about YouTube live IS i have
those fingerprints on YouTube live WHEN i found the, wrapper
the fingerprints that you that you, see AND i know
where you're going with, that my oils, Right, no that's
not Where i'm. Going all?

Speaker 10 (02:12:19):
Right, well then find you when you when you found
the wrapper in the, woods and when you when you
went to bring it back to your house or. Wherever
how when you picked it, up you probably picked up
by a corner and you probably put.

Speaker 7 (02:12:32):
Inside the sulfame bag or something like. That so it's
not just stick in your, pocket right?

Speaker 1 (02:12:37):
Yeah, no, no, no, no no, No so it. Goes
it goes either in a bag or in a, pocket
a specific pocket in my backpack or what we've been
doing is kind of AND i do have rubber. Gloves
not all the. Time i'm not SAYING i do all the,
time but Most AND i can't tell you this, here
but we'll put them right in the peanut butter of
jaws that is usually next to. Them we've been doing
that and putting the lids on. Them my thing, is but.

Speaker 10 (02:12:58):
Once you said you put it on the back or
something like. That that's What i'm asking because if you
look at the first one and how clean it, is
if it was an animal router or a bear or
something like, that you would have dirt smears all over
and everything. Else so if you put it in a,
pocket you could have ripped off the. Dirt but something
that would open it by not getting it. Dirty an
animal would have it ribbed over the ground and be,
muddy and a'll get out and be dirty as all

(02:13:19):
get out and have leaf fodder on it and everything,
else and that reference a lot cleans them like something
like a person or something that had manual dexterity open the.

Speaker 1 (02:13:28):
Wrapper, Correct that's What i'm looking, at. Right that's the
point of the rappers that we keep showing. People they're torn.
Open there's nothing else. There it's like you're, saying it's not.

Speaker 13 (02:13:38):
You.

Speaker 6 (02:13:38):
Do do you do trail cams or? Anything when you
say we do trail.

Speaker 1 (02:13:43):
Cams trail cams are very very very little little percentages
as far as success. Goes this picture here IS i
wanted to show is what comes from the the. Prints
it's the paint on the ingredient. Area see which way
AM i. Going so you got the ingredient area right,
here right and up, here so then if you look

(02:14:05):
back here you could see that's the white of. It
but the key is the key, is Like jay, said
there's no swirls in. These these these are not from
a from a. Person you could just tell that. None
nothing else, matters the fact that, biologically, right biology wise
or whatever you want to, say scientific if you, will

(02:14:28):
those are not of human. Nature this, straight, yeahses, Yes.

Speaker 8 (02:14:35):
AND i also add something after you've, Done, RICH i
suppose Go ahead'll let you do it, now all.

Speaker 4 (02:14:39):
Right So, rich can you kind of turn to your left.
Again what's the red.

Speaker 6 (02:14:47):
Heart that's what's the part of the.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
Wrapper that's the company, hostess all, right so the company host.

Speaker 4 (02:14:52):
Us all, right that whole.

Speaker 8 (02:14:53):
Area you see how it's kind of like faded and everything.
Else we ask you guys this. Too just popped them.

Speaker 1 (02:14:59):
On get out of. That.

Speaker 4 (02:15:03):
RICH i know how you are.

Speaker 8 (02:15:08):
If something was holding that for a period of, time
and would you, say, like you see how it's kind of.
Faded do you think it's because it's so much heat
drawn to that?

Speaker 6 (02:15:17):
Rapper it's the? Oils it would it would be the
Oils it would be the oils in the. Hands what
makes is what leaves the.

Speaker 14 (02:15:29):
Prints, Aye, aye it's Me. Joe, Joe, hey it's Me.
Joe IF i get a, word and that's why he's down.
Here what kind of bullshit show is?

Speaker 6 (02:15:40):
This SO i CAN i can tell you, That, richie
you need so you need three layers of, Gloves latex
gloves in order to not leave a fingerprint on. ANYTHING
i probably shouldn't be telling you this, anyways but, whatever

(02:16:01):
because the, oils so the oils seep through. Latex so
even if you were a pair of gloves and touch
and touch, anything you're still going to leave. Prince second
pair of latex, gloves you still Leave. Prince, third paral
late text. Clubs you don't leave.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
The.

Speaker 6 (02:16:21):
Oils so with fingerprints and all, that you leave the,
oils and that's what leaves The, prince which you can
then go back and swab obviously to get that kind of.
Stuff so there's definitely some kind of humanistic texture there

(02:16:42):
that left enough oils on the print to be able to.
Pull my question is what did you use to pull The.

Speaker 1 (02:16:50):
Prince we didn't pull them on all those were but
they're on. It but.

Speaker 6 (02:16:57):
How did you get the, prince is my.

Speaker 1 (02:16:59):
Question from the paint of the white to the paint
of the, blue it has nothing pulled. Whatsoever that's what
was on the on the wrapper WHEN i found, it
just like. That how did how did?

Speaker 6 (02:17:10):
You how did you pull? It how did you pull?

Speaker 1 (02:17:13):
It is my?

Speaker 13 (02:17:13):
QUESTION i didn't pull? It are we still talking? About
are we still talking about the? Prince i'm trying to
talk about the. Prince i'm not talking about So i'm.

Speaker 4 (02:17:24):
Not talking about About ritchie's.

Speaker 8 (02:17:27):
Head, okay you've see how everything's all, faded that's all,
white so that white it's probably still on the.

Speaker 4 (02:17:34):
Fingers went to the blue side where those prince fingers.

Speaker 7 (02:17:39):
Are hand and then touched the thing, again and the white.

Speaker 10 (02:17:42):
Transfers the white transfer from the rapper to the hand
and then from the hand to the, wrapper correct.

Speaker 6 (02:17:48):
White from The so you so you you took you
took the wrapper and then you and then you basically
edited that the take it to the blue to pull
the Like i'm trying to figure out how you pulled
the prince so that we can see the.

Speaker 1 (02:18:06):
Prince jason's a very smart, man but he's losing us.
Here could someone help me? Out joe Step. In, Please,
no he's.

Speaker 9 (02:18:13):
Not he's not saying that he pulled the. Prince, right
that's what was on the wrapper. Itself you're not pulling.
Prince you're not pulling the.

Speaker 10 (02:18:23):
Oil it's no different than putting your hand in paint
and then put your hand and put it over. Someplace
you take the paint, Here, hanford over there.

Speaker 6 (02:18:32):
Print i'm seeing what what?

Speaker 1 (02:18:34):
Is what?

Speaker 6 (02:18:35):
Is what's the? Blue? Then how did you make it?

Speaker 1 (02:18:40):
Paint, yeah there's it's part of the. Rapper the company
has a blue logo with the correct and the white
that came off by the ingredients where the ingredients is.
White you see it serving of food? Content what is
it contributes to a daily?

Speaker 4 (02:18:56):
Diet?

Speaker 1 (02:18:56):
Ball that area there has their paint on it from
nothing to do with me and whatever whatever opened this,
wrapper held it too long or whatever the case might have,
been ripped it open and the white transferred from the
ingredients area to the blue label.

Speaker 6 (02:19:14):
Area, okay so the blue is part of the rapper.

Speaker 1 (02:19:19):
Correct and the white and the white paint medience is
placed on. IT i see we saying like we drew
it at.

Speaker 6 (02:19:24):
Him, okay SO i thought like this half was the,
rapper this half was something that you pulled, off SO i,
OKAY i get it, Now. SUE i thought THE i
thought the blue was maybe an enhanced or whatever part
of the rapper that you like edited to pull the

(02:19:45):
print off. OF i get it. Now that's, OKAY i.
UNDERSTAND i understand. NOW i thought the blue part was
you editing this part of it to show more of the,
print as this part was just the regular wrapper.

Speaker 7 (02:20:01):
Transference?

Speaker 6 (02:20:02):
Okay is that?

Speaker 1 (02:20:05):
How this is exactly how we found the print in the? Woods?

Speaker 6 (02:20:08):
Okay, NO i get it.

Speaker 9 (02:20:13):
Stored a lot more than AND i do think it
would be a finger rather than.

Speaker 6 (02:20:22):
And i'm kind of, yeah very can you can you
go back to yeah this, morning then go back to
the other one that shows more of the yeah this
one and prints yeah this.

Speaker 1 (02:20:34):
One.

Speaker 6 (02:20:34):
Yeah so here YOU i, see, OKAY i see now
where the heart and the. Blue, OKAY i get it.
OUT i get. It and this ain't Sorry i'm. Stupid,
no you're not.

Speaker 1 (02:20:43):
Stupid, no, no you're trying to understand it through a,
picture which right understanding when we're staring there looking at, it,
go what's going? On this place is freaking? Nuts i'm all.

Speaker 4 (02:20:52):
Right So this is great because we have a couple
of cops.

Speaker 1 (02:20:54):
Here.

Speaker 8 (02:20:54):
Rich can you go back to that other that the
the other picture with the. PRINCE i have a question
about the prince to the right on the blue with
the label or.

Speaker 4 (02:21:05):
The one on, yeah the one on the Blok, okay this.

Speaker 6 (02:21:08):
One, yeah this is the one that got me because
you can definitely see a finger with the red. Heart
so this is. Okay NOW i see the bottom part
of it too with the black. One all, right NOW
i get, it all, right.

Speaker 1 (02:21:24):
So you get.

Speaker 6 (02:21:25):
IT i WAS i, Was, YEAH i was lost with
BECAUSE i THOUGHT i was just. Looking YEAH i. Am
i'm so. Stupid so my question to.

Speaker 8 (02:21:34):
You, Guys my question to you guys, is now you
look at the. Prince you see the the thick blue
line the, lines is that like a? Scar maybe look
if you had a scar on your thumb or.

Speaker 9 (02:21:48):
What and that's WHAT i was going to say is
WHY i thought it was a finger because if you
look at your finger and almost.

Speaker 6 (02:21:54):
Looking like it's doing, this you have that.

Speaker 9 (02:21:57):
Line, yeah it.

Speaker 6 (02:21:58):
Almost looks like it's doing. This so it's picking it
up with one finger and a bent. Finger so you
have your index finger and then you have your index.
Finger and then this is more of like so it's
like reaching down to scoop it with just your index finger.

Speaker 4 (02:22:19):
In this, position trying to rip.

Speaker 1 (02:22:20):
It, yeah that's it.

Speaker 6 (02:22:22):
Because because then look at the next. Part it almost
looks like another. Knuckle so it looks like one finger
is reaching down to pick it, up and the other
imprints are knuckles from the other part of the hand reaching,
down reaching down to pick it. Up that's what it
looks like to.

Speaker 1 (02:22:41):
Me think about, this get. It think about. This we
don't know what the line is are, like they could
be totally. Different we don't, know so they could have
double lines like, right you, know right near each. Other
we have no. Idea we know it. Similar we know it's, similar,
Right and it's like we pick up a pile of
poop out the, woods a three point seven, pounds, right

(02:23:01):
and some was missing when we came, back SO i
knew it was close to always get you every TIME
i thought it was animal from animal expedition. Files he
loves taco. Bell it might, be but it was like
almost four, pounds and and we did A google search
to a friend of. Us Tim vogel suggested. It he
goes why don't you google gorilla. Poop it's quite. Interesting

(02:23:25):
and he's not a. Guy he's the first One i'll tell.
You it's a. Bear even WHEN i tried to explain
to him we don't really have beer, here so it
was almost it was almost a perfect. Match so like
things like, that that's WHAT i, mean like they could
be slightly different things in there combined with you, know
perhaps a primate closer to a, gorilla, right and then

(02:23:45):
something something along the lines of. Us but the key
to me here is period point, blank is that we
show it To Jay lynch and he said something about.
HIM i didn't know you. DID i had no idea
you did. FINGERPRINTS i brought this piece of evidence out
because we had some law enforce. Background here was A
jay was a freaking trojan horse right. THERE i had no.
Idea and the first does.

Speaker 4 (02:24:08):
Printed yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:24:09):
Good but the beautiful pot is you picked up right
on exactly the ANSWER i was gonna give if you
didn't get. It they're not. Swirls the straight, lines.

Speaker 6 (02:24:19):
The lines and, it honest to, god it looks like
a finger and. Knuckles so the finger is on that
and the knuckles which which would be which would be
more of reaching down as a primitive instead of a,
human which would reach down on all all fingers to pick.

Speaker 4 (02:24:40):
Up, right because that's WHY i noticed those lines would.

Speaker 6 (02:24:43):
Be, yeah primitive would be one with a thumb and
knuckles would be hitting hitting that. Right and if, you
if you actually, look the finger with the knuckles almost
lines up adjacent to where where we would.

Speaker 1 (02:25:04):
Be, yeah, Seriously, yeah, no that's, Wild AND i think
you redeemed yourself after all that stupid ship you. Pulled,
YEAH i, was.

Speaker 6 (02:25:14):
Honest to, god it Was, YEAH i completely ADMIT i
was fucking. No but you've got it, now AND i love.

Speaker 1 (02:25:20):
THAT i didn't even considered that BECAUSE.

Speaker 6 (02:25:23):
I was kind of looking at it completely, different understanding
what you were you were uh putting out. There but,
YEAH i MEAN i get it out BECAUSE i thought
earlier it was like black and, white and then this
is the, blue and Now i'm more. Transferring you went.

Speaker 1 (02:25:39):
To, head you had cophead, going and you can get
it right to what you were used. To so the
point is, here, guys we just had this, discussion and
every other side that watched my live shows know what
how we think we just had respectful conversation and look
what we just discovered about the piece of evidence we

(02:26:00):
all found in the woods that we know was on.
It we've already seen, this it could have been born
you LIKE i already seen this piece. Happenings but through
respectful research and respectful, discussion we just discovered a few
things and we get some kind of. Confirmation think about
it through other people's, eyes don't. It don't be an
asshole to each.

Speaker 9 (02:26:18):
Other for, you.

Speaker 6 (02:26:21):
We actually we actually talked about, something that debated about
something that we disagreed for a, minute but we all came.
TOGETHER i want to add something TO i.

Speaker 9 (02:26:31):
Want to add something to you guys' side of the
fence on this. One, right this is From. Okay do
you ever think that maybe why you don't have a
like a better print or a full print is maybe
some of it's being blocked by fur her.

Speaker 1 (02:26:47):
Hair it's, well it's a very good point and it could.
Be and maybe it depends on maybe it depends on the.
Time He, yeah maybe they lose, here maybe they gain
him as he never do either. One and that's. It
and that's a. Great. See NOW i think you're up
to twenty because you said, that, right maybe. Thirty your
mind is thinking your mind is, thinking and that's the beautiful.

Speaker 6 (02:27:08):
Podcast but, SEE i mean here's the thing. Too if
you're if you're dealing with and in the like an
interdimensional being that can move from dimension to dimension or,
whatever and you're and you're dealing with that kind of,

(02:27:29):
thing maybe it won't leave what we think is a
print Like joe's, saying hair or, whatever or maybe it just.
Doesn't it doesn't transfer like we would see a. Transfer
we see a, transfer human. Transfer, well this isn't a human.

(02:27:50):
Transfer this is something. Different like AND i always WHEN
i talk about this, SHIP i always go back to
What jay AND i saw in the water, Traffick like
what made what made those? Footprints like there was something
out there that went through that fucking water that made

(02:28:10):
those footprints that nobody saw whenever it went. Through so
who AM i to, say ah does exist or doesn't?
Exist like obviously there was something there that made This
it Wasn't it wasn't, me it Wasn't, jay it wasn't
anybody around. There so what landed or what was there

(02:28:35):
that went through this water that made these prints for
us to see that then just disappeared that we couldn't
track anymore that has gone just like, this what reached
down and grabbed this wrapper that you actually have some
sort of print With that doesn't make, sense that doesn't

(02:28:58):
wrap around the whole human part of identity or?

Speaker 1 (02:29:04):
Whatever? What what what makes?

Speaker 6 (02:29:07):
That? LIKE i it's it's just it's. Amazing it's amazing to.
Me THAT'S i, mean it's it's out, there, Man it's
out there for, sure and it and it shows itself
and we just always dismiss it as, oh, well it
might have been something else or and that's fine if you.

(02:29:28):
Do but if you're really looking for, SOMETHING i, mean it's.
THERE i, mean this is that's that's that's pretty. Cool
ship there, Man thank.

Speaker 1 (02:29:37):
YOU i appreciate. THAT i appreciate. That and d who
says CAN dna be gotten from the prince because of the? Oils?
Possibly is that something that could have? Happened is that
ANY dna is that like a real tough pull it.

Speaker 7 (02:29:50):
Mount there with being oil from the. Palm it might
be too much of a trace, amount but it's.

Speaker 6 (02:29:55):
So what you would be what you'd be able to
do is to pull. Print BUT i don't think you'd
be able to PULL dna off that print because it's
it's on the, plastic so you'd be able to pull
the profile of the, print but you wouldn't be able
to pull actually pro OR dna off of off a.

Speaker 4 (02:30:16):
Footprint, AGAIN i think that you think that you'd.

Speaker 6 (02:30:21):
Be able to pull the ridges off the, print BUT
i don't believe you'd be able to PULL dna off
if there was, blood if there was spit or, saliva
there was hair or something like, that and then you'd
be able to pull THE dna off of. That but a,
print you would be able to pull the ridges and

(02:30:45):
you'd be able to do that to see if it matched.
Anything BUT i don't think there's ENOUGH dna there on
a print that you'd be able to pull off that
to be able to Identify.

Speaker 4 (02:30:55):
Richie show them that's crystal clear the.

Speaker 1 (02:31:00):
Peanut Butter, Joy, well it's not my background.

Speaker 10 (02:31:05):
Skin, cells but it had to have a larger mouse skin. Cells,
yeah the time, plastic it would not retain the skin.
Cells with the way we. Have he picked it up
and then put it inside of a bag or a
pocket you got transferred from. That you have too much
outside source now contamination that you probably wouldn't allow enough
skin cells to be.

Speaker 1 (02:31:24):
THERE i don't know which. ONE i have to where
we could reach, it Won, joe let me.

Speaker 4 (02:31:29):
See, yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:31:35):
We have to Get the bad thing about GETTING dn
samples from the poop is now you have to separate
what it.

Speaker 1 (02:31:41):
Ate no more.

Speaker 7 (02:31:43):
Carnivorous, no you're going to get THE dna from those.
Creatures also not.

Speaker 8 (02:31:46):
Happened, yeah IT'S i mean we have like one of
the so on the peanut butter. Jars our friend The Volgo,
Brothers tim told me to grab like some basoline you,
know don't know if you can in the apply it
around the peanut butter jar to try to get some
sort of like there's a picture to try to get,

(02:32:08):
there you, know the indigenous but also.

Speaker 1 (02:32:12):
You know the.

Speaker 8 (02:32:12):
Hair and this is the picture in the background is
what we believe is hair from the peanut butter. Jar
the following day and ever, Since i've been putting THE
i use bag bomb and it's been like, clean like
like clean as a, whistle the whole, jock clean inside and.

(02:32:36):
Outside but in this picture is my first time trying,
it and well what we believe it might.

Speaker 4 (02:32:44):
Be it's like a piece of hair wrapped around.

Speaker 10 (02:32:47):
It, Yeah i'm trying two pieces of HAIR i think
it's still be kind of hard to pull the less.

Speaker 7 (02:32:53):
Search that's not that much material to get stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:32:57):
From, No AND i THINK i think it all depends on.
Time AND i mean time is. Everything AND i THINK
i think My Mountain buck kind of brought it, up you,
know kind of depend on long it's, air it would be, inclusive.
Inconclusive but the good thing.

Speaker 10 (02:33:09):
About hair is this hair is a long of the
last things that actually decomposes over.

Speaker 7 (02:33:12):
Time, OH i mean looking in agreement stuff like. That
but the hair seems like it grows when it.

Speaker 10 (02:33:16):
Doesn't THIS i the hairs there long after skinner thing,
else sir, Fingernails so they last longer in decompositions than
what most things do with the human body or any.

Speaker 1 (02:33:29):
Animals, yeah. Exactly And i'm trying to.

Speaker 6 (02:33:32):
See i'm asking you, this, guys what what is what's
your best piece of evidence that you found on your
property as far as uh like bigfoot or, squatch, uh

(02:33:54):
the the uh the ice.

Speaker 1 (02:33:56):
Print it's pretty pretty. Amazing we have the small ice.
Print those hairs they're pretty they're pretty thick and. Pretty, Course,
YEAH i DON'T i have a. MICROSCOPE i gotta put
them on to see if there's a modula in the.
Middle if there's no, modula then it's more of an
apes don't have the medula like we. Do so, yeah

(02:34:18):
it's just they're very they're almost like they're almost like
pine straw. White, yeah they can BE i mean like your. Beard,
yeah like, yeah, yeah like a like an.

Speaker 4 (02:34:34):
Trying to look more Like moses by the. Moment.

Speaker 1 (02:34:37):
Yeah, NO i THINK i think the ice print is pretty.

Speaker 6 (02:34:40):
Amazing AND i think how far away from your house
was the ice print.

Speaker 1 (02:34:45):
Logo is pretty name. Amazing thank, You. BRO i appreciate.
That that's that's my, team, man that's my. Vision and
then my team comes together and then we Need, yeah
and and his name Is. Jackson he's named after my
Son jack And jack's Son. Jackson so And wojo gave us,
that gave him that, name AND i kind of had

(02:35:08):
the vision of, it and And Bobby lee built. Him
and then the eyes of WHAT i actually, saw oh,
yeah that was preaky man in the. Trees AND i
wasn't a. BELIEVER i wasn't buying the self illuminating eye.
Shit and then this guy showed up and he showed
me one eye like let me see like this and
then WHEN i didn't believe, him and then it was

(02:35:30):
LIKE i didn't believe, him and then he kind of
he kind of went like. THIS i, SAW i saw
motion like. This he looked down right at, me showed
me two eyes and then went right back up to
the tree to one. Eye AND i you hear me
on the live, going what the hell AM i looking?

Speaker 6 (02:35:44):
At?

Speaker 1 (02:35:44):
Wojo what the heck is going? ON i could not
believe my eyes WHAT i was dealing. With so that's
why those eyes of that, color because that's WHAT i.

Speaker 6 (02:35:51):
Saw and on on your on your, property do you
you camp out there a? Lot or do you just
go back to the? House and so, no, NO i
mean the.

Speaker 1 (02:36:00):
Property the property is now occupied by my first, wife
so we shared the. Property we've owned the property since
two thousand and two when we were married and, stuff
AND i was living. THERE i would hear things walking
around out. Back and if you know the, property the
property bottle next to my yad to a game trail
that walks right up to my yard right and there's
ninety four acres of conservation and one mile out there's

(02:36:21):
a major river. Away but before The granola people came
along and built the trail because they don't like to
get in their little fetzi's. Wet They, yeah, OKAY i
am the granola. People do you like my super? Room?
Yeah those guys's definition the good. Nuts, yeah go nutt
exactly before the goat. Nuts, yeah before the goat nuts came.

(02:36:43):
Along so you you only have one way in or a,
kayak and you had to know your way. In SO
i was hearing this walking, around and Then i'd hear,
snaps and Then i'd, hear you, know like from walking
on the, ground so you. COULD i got to so
good at. IT i could tell a difference WHEN i
stepped on something or when it was up here and.
Snapped it's a different. Sound AND i and this went

(02:37:06):
on for, years AND i kept, going what the? Hell
and it was mostly, daytime, daytime, daytime BECAUSE i wasn't
out there at night a. Lot it is pretty pretty,
freaky AND i didn't have a lot of friends over
to hang out and stuff like. That but one NIGHT i,
WAS i was out, THERE i had a little fire
goingers around ten. O clark was getting late and, UH
i was by. Myself everybody went in AND i sat hearing,
it And i'm going with them AND i go up

(02:37:27):
to the fence And i'm looking for a flashlight Or
i'm looking for a, headlamp AND i ain't seeing. Anything
and then all of a, sudden all of a, sudden
this fight a flight hits, me And i'm, like that
doesn't make, sense that's not. Normal SO i stopped backing.
Up AND i never douse a fire with. WATER i
always let it burn out to. Ash AND i doused
that bitch AND i went. INSIDE i was on. THAT
i was on my coach till three in the, morning
look at the, ceiling going what the fuck are be out?

(02:37:49):
There why is how are they doing? That and THEN
i then that some of the snaps got louder and,
bigger and Then i'm, going where's the strength to even do?
That and then the fire pit incident came two o'clock
in the, afternoon you, know Almost october Is september, Ish,
october no no, rain no, wind no, cloud beautiful bright sunny.
Day And i'm sweeping around that same fire, pit cleaning,

(02:38:10):
up AND i hear one pull just like, that And
i'm raking like, this AND i look up to my
right kind of diagonal like, this AND i see this
like forty foot elm, tree AND i got goosebumps up
and down my arms and this. TREE i watched this
tree come down at like forty miles an, hour sixty
miles an. Hour it got ripped to the ground AND

(02:38:31):
i watched. It but there's this thicket of bushes that
goes like this and they're about twelve feet, high and
my game trails in front of, it and then there's
a big clearing behind it before you go into the swamp.
Lands AND i, said oh my, god that's in that,
claar And i'm, thinking, Right SO i grab my. PHONE
i go AND i had already been dealing with this
thing for a. WHILE i, go come on where you?
At AND i held my phone out and you could

(02:38:52):
hear it through the thick the thicket that grat that
those BUSHES i was telling you. About you can hear
it on the on the, phone and it wasn't as
loud on my phone as it was in. Person it
goes like, that AND i jump back AND i, go
what the fuck was? That and you could hear. It
you can hear me saying this on the. Recording so
THEN i get this stupid, Man, jean AND i go, hey,

(02:39:15):
man listen. Up you know. This i'll respect. You you respect, Me,
DUDE i don't know what the hell. Happened i'm freaked,
out And i'm Now i'm putting my hands up And
i'm talking on, him and THEN i, go what are
you fucking? Doing it can see you and you can't see.

Speaker 13 (02:39:28):
It you.

Speaker 1 (02:39:28):
Moron you know WHAT i? Mean SO i stop backing,
up backing, up backing. Up NOW i have an acre of.
Grass So i'm up to the front of the acre
now by the road WHERE i felt, safe and my
hands go down on my knees like, this And i'm
looking at the. Ground I'm i'm honestly rethinking my, life
And i'm GOING i just put an intelligent response with
a guttural sound aimed directed at me and WHAT i

(02:39:52):
was saying to, it and it's all computing in my.
Head AND i have a good friend of, mine my fifth,
Son joshua was named after, him AND i call him.
Up he's a pre down In South. CAROLINA i, said,
BRO i GOT i need you to talk To god
for me BECAUSE i don't understand what just happened to.
Me i'm going to send you a, record a, video
AND i want you to see. It and he calls me.
Back he, goes, dude what was? That AND i, said

(02:40:13):
exactly WHAT i need you to talk To god. About thank.

Speaker 6 (02:40:15):
You it was.

Speaker 1 (02:40:17):
Absolutely my ball and that was. IT i was a.
RESEARCHER i needed to find out. NOW i went out
the next. DAY i had a whole. Video it's got
like eleven thousand views of my. YouTube it's the dumbest
video with a burned out friend of.

Speaker 6 (02:40:28):
Mine he's, going how's that?

Speaker 1 (02:40:30):
Happening? Anyways so you see this fresh pressure like el,
elmtree oak, tree whatever it, is and it's it's like
this stick around and it is completely shattered about eight
feet up and pulled to the. Ground and that was
it and that's what started.

Speaker 7 (02:40:45):
It.

Speaker 1 (02:40:45):
Man so that.

Speaker 6 (02:40:46):
Experience so if we if we come out with, you
are we going to be able to get the? Grounds
are we going to be able to stay? Neither or?
Two or what are? We what are we going to
do if we come out with?

Speaker 1 (02:40:56):
WELL i THINK i think as it, approaches Because I'm
i'm literally seven minutes from my research area right now
with my new. House RIGHT i still own that other.
House my first wife still lives, there and my older
kids live there and we can. Go is she gonna
let us go there any TIME i fucking, Want like

(02:41:17):
we're here With.

Speaker 6 (02:41:17):
Mitchie that ain't gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:41:20):
Help oh good by bang but Right, No but, now
the LIKE i, said The granola people built an area
that you can just pock and go. In it doesn't.
Matter so you can just.

Speaker 6 (02:41:29):
Go but if if we, can if we can access
your land and go back there and and stay for two,
like because WHAT i want to, do And joe's not
gonna like, it But jay is gonna love. It but
WHAT i want to do is go back and stay
there for like two or three days and not, leave
not leave the area. Whatsoever so find a camp, site

(02:41:50):
throw up a couple of, tents so that would be the. Other,
yeah we could build a build a, fire build a
fire or. Whatever and there's a problem just live.

Speaker 10 (02:41:58):
There there's a problem with that in my, opinion when
you're doing any kind of research along with this, lines
when you go in and you stay for a few,
hours you come back, out you tend to, disturb disturb
the environment, less and become a nuisance to the things
that are normally going on.

Speaker 7 (02:42:12):
There when you go in and you stay for a
long extended period of time like.

Speaker 10 (02:42:15):
That the animals know that you're not normally there and,
stuff and they change their pattern and they change their
habits and they avoid, you whether it be birds or,
whatever because they smell your scand you're smoking anything. Else
you now disturb the chance of being able to find
things more and catch for evidence because you're staying there
too long and for a few hours an. Out that's
your best front of attack because you don't disturb their,

(02:42:37):
environment you don't serve their normal patterns and normal.

Speaker 1 (02:42:39):
Beha, Well i'll tell. You let me explain. One, OH
i like low added some close up shit going.

Speaker 6 (02:42:46):
On, Really i'd SAY i. WOULDN'T i would think that
would be total. OPPOSITE i, mean if we go, investigate
if we do paranormal, shit and there's places where you
can run out the place for the whole entire, night
and you go and investigate.

Speaker 10 (02:43:01):
On that paranormal investigation style to to uh honeying and.
HONTING i found it all my. Life and and and
we ran trap. Lines you sent your trap stuff out
and then you go back because you went them to
follow the normal.

Speaker 7 (02:43:14):
Pattern that's why there's. Trails and then and the games
will follow the. Trails the predators will follow the.

Speaker 10 (02:43:19):
Game animals that and if you're there and if you're
saying stuff and you're putting out, smoke all that stuff
going to hear you talk anything, else they're going to
avoid you. More that's why people start getting trail camps
and things like. That then when they don't contend me their, environment, well.

Speaker 1 (02:43:33):
Let me let me explain something to, you right all,
right go. Ahead we are very very very very. Connected
kicked J. J i don't see him up?

Speaker 7 (02:43:42):
Here, GOOD i like being gone?

Speaker 1 (02:43:45):
Rude oh, There, no that ain't.

Speaker 6 (02:43:48):
HIM i MEAN i. DON'T i don't know that much about.

Speaker 1 (02:43:52):
Whatever i'll explain you.

Speaker 8 (02:43:53):
THAT i.

Speaker 6 (02:43:55):
WOULDN'T i would love to be able. To it's just
stay out to you know WHAT i, mean whether whether
we're investigating or. Not we can have some cameras, going
but just to sit, out have some bourbon or pop or,
whatever sit, around have a campfire and just bullshit and
listen to what's happening around. Us, RIGHT i think that

(02:44:17):
would that would be fun. Enough if if that's, not
if that's not something we could, do THEN i would
don't you.

Speaker 10 (02:44:25):
Can do if it's not something that's gonna be conducing
with trying to actually capture stuff with with active creatures
that are trying.

Speaker 15 (02:44:32):
To avoid, You they're going to know right where you're.
At they're not gonna go only come around because they
don't know. Us they're not like we're rich in woju
is that for all the. Time they don't have that
trusting confidence with. Us you don't have that interaction with, them.
Suf so it's gonna be a whole different ball.

Speaker 1 (02:44:43):
Game but the possibility is higher than normal because you're with,
us right and and what What jay is saying is absolutely.
True AND i even have to introduce the people That
i'm with a lot new. People i'll be, like these
are my. Friends it's, Okay and we've gotten plenty of,
activity and we've had new people come out with. Us
now we didn't stay, overnight so you, KNOW i want

(02:45:05):
to compare apples to. Apples but when you see stuff
like this in the, woods you, know and you're and
you're doing you're doing a thermal thermal image and you
hear a movement twenty to thirty feet from. You you
are with newer, People denny And, andy they kind of
know them a little, bit but not Like wojo AND
i and and then you put the thermal on it
and there's an image in the woods between the trees

(02:45:26):
that the possibility is still there because they Trust wojo AND.
I you, know they know they.

Speaker 6 (02:45:32):
Know, well then maybe maybe a night where maybe a
night where we spend the night and we run cameras all,
night and then the other times we go out with you.
GUYS i Just I'm i'm trying. TO i want to experience, it,
because LIKE i, SAID I I've I've i've, Hunted i've
done all. That obviously not at THE uh With jay

(02:45:56):
living on a farm and, whatever, Right BUT i grew
up my dad was an honor and my uncle's runners
LIKE i grew up, rabbit, pheasant, squirrel LIKE i was
in the. WOODS i get that part of. IT i
understand that part of. IT i never really went through bigfoot.
Research but then walking in the water and seeing that,
Ship i'm, Like, god, like this is LIKE i really want.

(02:46:20):
TO i want to be able to experience. More SO
i would think that being out in the woods and
being a part of all that you would be able
to experience. More If i'm, Wrong i'm, wrong then the
maybe one night we do, that and the other couple of,
knights and then another couple of nights we just you,

(02:46:41):
know continue to go out back and forth or whatever
and try to uh try to get some. Answers BUT
i would like to at least take take one night
and hang.

Speaker 4 (02:46:53):
Out and you're not, wrong.

Speaker 10 (02:46:55):
It's just an overnight is a total different. Thing that's
setting up a base camp for extend. Time extended time
thing is going to drive down your chances of having the.
Experience if you're just there for a, night then not
knowing that you're, there you can possibly head and walk
up on, you you walk upon. Them they they they're
not they know you're, there they know.

Speaker 7 (02:47:15):
You're sending anything, else and now they're going to avoid.

Speaker 5 (02:47:17):
You so.

Speaker 1 (02:47:19):
Extended period of.

Speaker 8 (02:47:20):
TIME i, Mean, Jay, jason just remember that going out,
there like well from me And, richie you, know this
is their at.

Speaker 4 (02:47:30):
Home SO.

Speaker 6 (02:47:33):
I, Understand, yeah because.

Speaker 8 (02:47:35):
That's one thing we're learning is it is there and
so and in time of our, research that's when it
started the gifting chains and give them the gifts and
uh blesting it with you, know with with tobacco.

Speaker 4 (02:47:50):
And things like.

Speaker 8 (02:47:50):
That we talked to them believe it or not that you,
know because we've been reaching out to other resources around
us to build this. Relationship because is that the gifting
chist says a. Lot, okay BECAUSE i got, Yeah so
what's your fucking? Point so the point, IS i mean

(02:48:11):
you gotta have the baby step what you're, SAYING i
mean you you, know just camping, there you.

Speaker 10 (02:48:17):
Know but THEN i, Said, sary can you plan it and? Try,
absolutely there's nobody in this. Discussion there's not possibilities and
ideas and theories and have a discussion what would.

Speaker 7 (02:48:26):
Be the best.

Speaker 1 (02:48:27):
PLANT i am gonna tell you all something right, now
And i'm gonna call it at one hundred. Percent if
you go out with ours and we sit around that
wherever we choose till two in the, morning say you're
gonna have an, experience and my mind without research. Area
i'm not saying any other research. Area we're here all
the fucking. Time you know.

Speaker 6 (02:48:48):
What's coming in and that's AND i AND i say
that all the. Time with The COLLINGWOOD i have a
personal attachment with The Callingwood Arts, center AND i tell every,
buddy let's walk around with, me or let's just walk
around and we'll we'll figure something. Out joe got his
jump at The Collingwood Arts, center walking around by himself

(02:49:11):
just hey, man just because he was, Like i'm gonna
take my. Camera i'm just gonna start walking. Around i'm, like,
dude walk, around walk around and ask. Questions he had
somebody come up behind him and say and he was, like,
Yep i'm back in. It this is this is this
is What i'm. Doing, YEAH i am attached to this
place to a. Fault, honestly it sucks me in AND i, would,

(02:49:39):
uh at one point in, Time i'm actually going to
do maybe uh, uh maybe a documentary about, it because
it is it has become so much a part of
my life that it's almost. Scary Then it's become so
much a part of my, life LIKE i need to be,

(02:49:59):
THERE i need to talk to, PEOPLE i need to
interact with whatsever in the. BUILDING i need to do
that kind of. Stuff so But I'M i Am i'm
not The i'm not The bigfoot. Researcher, so but hanging
out and trying to get, ANSWERS i would love to do,

(02:50:19):
that BUT i. DON'T i don't understand that that researcher
part of. It when it comes to the bigfoot that
kind of. Stuff so With jay saying in you guys saying,
IT i, MEAN i get, IT i understand. It but to,
ME i would be, like let's set up, camp let's
do three or four, days let's set up, tense let's

(02:50:39):
do all this. Shit and you guys are like, No i'm,
like damn.

Speaker 1 (02:50:42):
It that was gonna be.

Speaker 6 (02:50:43):
Fun but it comes to.

Speaker 1 (02:50:45):
A time and a. Point you got to know with,
this this is. Different this IS i was a paranormal,
investigator so and Now i'm a. Researcher, right some of
my skills set from the paranormal world comes into, bigfooting
like like validating things like THAT i don't shout out
WHAT i heard or WHAT i you know, SEE i
look over the wall joone and go what do you?
Hear and what do you? See so he can validate

(02:51:06):
WHAT i WHAT i. Experienced so you, know those types
of things will mix. In so with this type of
experience and like and Like cryptids ASKING i think the only.
ONE i think we got two nineties, Already, cryptids It's
joe that we need to have an. Experience what kind of,
Experience joe would you need to have to get to
ninety percent ninety, yeah would? You would you? Need all?

(02:51:27):
Right so let me give you a. List do you
need a treat to get pushed about twenty feet from
you and get? Snapped do you need something thrown at
you through the? Woods do you need to? Hear do
you need to get growled at twenty or forty feet?
Away do you need to maine if something gets thrown at?
Me oh, Yeah i'm. There, well, okay Then i'm going
to tell you something right. NOW i watch stuff get

(02:51:49):
come through the woods at. ME i watch, it AND
i watched it one night AND i looked up like
this and it came at, me and it was this
little round sphere and it came and it hit a
hit a, leaf and it landed next to, me about
ten feet from, me live on, YouTube in front of
everybody on the. Side and we went to find out
what the source. Was and we go around this little the,
trees and on the base of a, tree there's this

(02:52:11):
little lex made, right it's leaning up against the. Tree,
right not ninety, PERCENT i got. You but there's a
pile of these things that look like. Blueberries SO i
pick them up And i'm looking around for a blueberry. Bush,
Well andy's there and he picks. It he, goes, No,
rich those are, Grapes AND i, said, bro there's no
grapes around, here what are you talking. About so we
go over what about one hundred feet two hundred fet
away walls and there's all these, grapes these vine of

(02:52:35):
grapes going up these, trees and they're all stripped and
there's not one grape in that area that's tranced, down pushed,
down you, know smushmots in the mud. Everything and there's
no grapes over, there nothing on the, ground hardly anything
on the vines because they were getting thrown at. Us
AND i watched one get thrown at. Us and there's
other things in there that you would see and experience

(02:52:56):
that would probably get you to ninety. Percent but when
you get something thrown at, you it's different because they
could hit. You they just did.

Speaker 6 (02:53:03):
EXACTLY i JUST i WANTED i want to camp out
and experience that, ship you know WHAT i, Mean.

Speaker 1 (02:53:11):
Listen many night.

Speaker 4 (02:53:14):
Whatever but, yeah me personally about this, QUESTION i think
it's a great. QUESTION i probably wouldn't answer one until you.

Speaker 8 (02:53:20):
Guys come out, there AND i just like write it
and write it all down until the end of the.
Investigation it's like a. Checklist and Then i'll be like
this You alosi's question right, there.

Speaker 10 (02:53:36):
And i'm gonna have to, say and you're about to
be extremely open minded, too because you could be.

Speaker 7 (02:53:43):
Skeptical that's absolutely wonderful.

Speaker 10 (02:53:44):
And the best thing to be is always maintained some
form of, skepticism so that way you don't believe. Everything
but you also have to be very open mind because the,
woods with your experience in The, woods it's gonna be
a completely different experience for.

Speaker 1 (02:53:55):
You yeahletly. Different and What i'm gonna do before we go,
anyways is like sometimes like if it ain't just being,
wardrobe it's other people coming. IN i set my, intentions
you know WHAT i. Mean, Like i'll set my. Intentions
i'll do a little. Meditation i'll set my, intentions and
then WHEN i go in, there you might Think i'm,
nuts But i'll. Talk i'll talk to the woods And
i'll introduce you. Guys these are my. Friends they're, safe

(02:54:18):
they care about.

Speaker 6 (02:54:19):
IT i do, it AND i do it at The
collingwood every TIME i. THINK i do it at The.
Collingwood every TIME i take a new group through or,
WHATEVER i got a question For. JAIL i, INTRODUCE i
introduce the people to the location or. Whatever, hey these
are my, friends these are these are, this this is
that you can you, know feel free to interact with,

(02:54:41):
them feel free to. WHATEVER i do the. SAME i
do the same. THING i Just i've never really other
than LIKE i, said With, jay AND i have experienced
and WHATEVER i. AM i am wanting to experience stuff
in the, woods you know that kind of. THING i
got a questions From.

Speaker 7 (02:55:00):
If we get a chance to go up there to their, AREA.

Speaker 1 (02:55:04):
I will bring. ALONG i will bring.

Speaker 7 (02:55:08):
It, along the jar peanut butter and some, singers and
what do they like to put up the gifting? Chair
AND i want to set you.

Speaker 10 (02:55:16):
On a chair about ten or fifteen feet away from
the gifting chair, alone as long as you can't do the,
night to see if something comes up while you're, there
and see what's your.

Speaker 9 (02:55:26):
Experience, well, OKAY i understand your.

Speaker 1 (02:55:32):
Chair they're gonna they're gonna.

Speaker 6 (02:55:35):
Take a little joe off the gifting chair and be like.

Speaker 4 (02:55:39):
You gotta get out of my. Spot.

Speaker 6 (02:55:41):
Man but, no that's.

Speaker 9 (02:55:42):
RIGHT i understand that part of. It but and Here
i'm gonna be open. MINDED i don't think anything would
would come.

Speaker 6 (02:55:51):
Around there's only one way to find.

Speaker 1 (02:55:55):
Out, yeah let me tell you a little something about.
That you're gonna hear set song of movement and subtlety
type versions of. This it's everyone's we've been bluff. Charged
we've been in the doctor's thirty feet from our face
in my.

Speaker 9 (02:56:11):
BACK i would love that this thing went like, That
so that would be enough for. ME i would have
probably pete a.

Speaker 1 (02:56:18):
LITTLE i, did and, yeah like it's, okay it's okay
to peel a, little but just a.

Speaker 9 (02:56:22):
Little but putting something out and.

Speaker 1 (02:56:27):
Oh, yeah LIKE i don't think they would come, Though yeah,
EXACTLY i. Don't don't get me.

Speaker 8 (02:56:35):
Wrong they are, around you'll, hear, yeah but they won't
come Like, joe what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (02:56:41):
Here BUT i will say, This, joe.

Speaker 6 (02:56:43):
That's that's got to put it out.

Speaker 4 (02:56:45):
There Since i've been.

Speaker 8 (02:56:48):
On my first, investigation and that's over a year and
a half till, NOW i have not had one bad.
Investigation i've always got something every investigation, guaranteed which is
pretty damn, high Which i'm.

Speaker 4 (02:57:06):
Shocked but LIKE i, said you go go on in these.
Woods you know What i'll tell. You you cover with
an open.

Speaker 8 (02:57:12):
Mind believe, me you're, Gonna, yeah it's gonna it's gonna
blow your. Mind because we brought out other, different you,
know different friends Like andy And, denny our Friend, lisa
And i'll tell you from their.

Speaker 4 (02:57:24):
EXPERIENCES i can't you. Know they just look at us,
going oh my.

Speaker 6 (02:57:29):
God so let me, ask let me, ask let me
ask you. This so do you think that it's more
of an interdimensional kind of being or do you think
that it's just camouflaged and just, lives lives amongst lived amongst,
us but just camouflage itself with with. Nature do some

(02:57:50):
has some.

Speaker 1 (02:57:50):
Of them evolved perhaps into some kind of you, know
friendship with aliens and things like, that or whatever the
case might. Be anything is on the. Table but with
with our research and what we have in front of,
us and the fingerprints as you, saw and the food
that they eat and things like, THAT i go with
flesh and blood and that's Where i'm. At can the

(02:58:12):
research evolve and bring me to another? Place? Sure? Can
it already, Has but that part of IT i have
not experienced that into dimensional type?

Speaker 4 (02:58:21):
Proof?

Speaker 1 (02:58:22):
Right have you?

Speaker 6 (02:58:23):
Guys have you guys seen in your area that you
guys go out on your. Property have you seen more
like habitats built over the course of? Time and if,
so have you guys tried to put out a turil
cam so you can capture what's being built on your?

(02:58:44):
Property all, Right so.

Speaker 7 (02:58:45):
It hasn't been three hours in This i'm gonna have
to bounce.

Speaker 1 (02:58:48):
OUT i, KNOW i. Gotta i'm gonna Get i'm gonna
answer this. Question then we're gonna go, out get out
of here. Too but this is the LETTER a we
found the other. Day by the, way it's about twenty
feet up in a. Tree and that's.

Speaker 6 (02:58:58):
Fantaic that's that's. Amazing, Yeah and and that's.

Speaker 4 (02:59:01):
Amazing vultage is in diameter by the.

Speaker 1 (02:59:04):
Way, yeah to answer your question real, quickly we have
areas that we call the, college the, university the high,
school things like, that because it looks like all, well
it doesn't look like.

Speaker 4 (02:59:15):
It it.

Speaker 1 (02:59:16):
Is all the trees are manipulating in the different. Shapes
they're all both invent things like, that and they keep.
Growing they keep growing and. Growing so we think it's
a cumbination of a da trap and an educational. Spot
that's WHY i name them after. Schools we think they're
teaching the juveniles how to make, nineties how to make,
x's how to trap the, dea and, yes we have
a game camera and what's called the college right? Now,

(02:59:39):
okay so then they built SO i love. It it's,
ABSOLUTELY i JUST i, KNOW i just love. It where's
my structure folding you sound of a, bitch mountain.

Speaker 4 (02:59:48):
Box it's everywhere that the ecosystem.

Speaker 8 (02:59:51):
Is that's where you, know we believe you know, water you,
know food, source that's what they pick and where they
we don't, know but we know that the reports are
like everywhere all Of New, England, Ohio New jersey the largest.

Speaker 1 (03:00:09):
It, Yeah ohio is no, joke no.

Speaker 6 (03:00:12):
Cool and we're definitely we will definitely pick a long weekend.

Speaker 9 (03:00:16):
And come up and hang out with you guys and
uh and do.

Speaker 6 (03:00:20):
That and then what we what we want you guys
to do is then to come to us so that
we can take you down by Where jay's at and
we can run The jay's family land and all, that
and we can do some aroun Where i'm at right,
Now i'm searching too.

Speaker 7 (03:00:38):
Well known for over the years of dog man oh.

Speaker 1 (03:00:41):
Man, Okay i've headed that, way WHETHER i like it or, not.

Speaker 6 (03:00:46):
But, yeah see you guys and then we'll then you
guys come out and see. Us, yeah we'll do, uh
we'll do extended weekend out and you guys do extended
weekend back here and, uh and we'll do a. Lot,
uh we'll do it stuff and we.

Speaker 1 (03:01:02):
Will figure all that stuff. Out we're absolutely gonna make that.
Happen it has to. Happen it's gonna. Happen. Yeah the
POGESTION i have Is i'm seven minutes from. There we
can't right out in my backyard and get up and
leave it any time of the night to go over.
There you want to walk for a couple of hours
and go out there at two in the morning and
wait a little while and see what. Happens we can do.
That we can mix down for.

Speaker 7 (03:01:21):
It, yeah we can judge gets you and give him.

Speaker 1 (03:01:24):
AWAY i mean What, Yeah so this is real. Quick
this is The this is the top of the. A
the one on the left goes. Across now look at those, sticks.
Dude if that thing came straight, down it would smash
those little old. Sticks, yep it's it's lodged in between.
Them it was picked up like this and then slid
into Place it did not fall. There it's impossible to fall.

(03:01:46):
There look at The look at the branches above and
they're sticking way out over. It that's manipulation with, hands.
Folks that's. Interesting, yeah that's. THUMBS i said. It, yeah that's.

Speaker 6 (03:01:58):
Amazing, Joseph joseph.

Speaker 1 (03:02:03):
Awesome check it. Out this has been an absolute kick ass.
Episode thank you guys for being, Here thank you for
being so kind to us and open minded and. Fun
AND i just love. It, man we Love Doc REALM.
Tv we want to get more involved with. You thank.
You and Uh Bed's we're gonna find get bed on
here and get him next BECAUSE i have a lot
of questions to ask, him AND i KNOW i Know

(03:02:23):
edison Beer claw will have a lot of. Questions those
two will go back and. Forth, Right, yes that'll be pretty.
Amazing so you guys need to get over doc ROUND
tv with right now and subscribe.

Speaker 6 (03:02:38):
The whole.

Speaker 1 (03:02:38):
Year and it's not just. Us you already see. Us
we're YouTube. Live you get that for. FREE i get.
It but there's so many vast vast network you need
to go over and check our growing le, teams the
Other bigfoot, teams the other. Podcast go check those guys
out man one. Percent all, right let's do. This SO
i want to thank you. Guys i'll shoot you a.
MESSAGE i Asked danny where we could donate To ELA's.

(03:03:01):
Armie this Is, september it Is pediatric Cancer awareness, month
so please let's all be. Aware and, yeah absolutely.

Speaker 6 (03:03:12):
Like like LIKE i, said LIKE i said, earlier we
all WANT t, shirts we all want to Support Ella's,
army and well we'll do THE t shirts and then
we'll also donate one hundred dollars towards what whatever they've
they've got going. On so if somebody can send me
a link SO i can get SOME t shirts and

(03:03:35):
then donate as, well we'll definitely do that From Dark
ROAM tv uh where we're always we're always trying to give.
Back so and it's such a H i'm gonna get,
emotional So i'm Not i'm not even gonna it's a
it's a it's a very it's a very cool thing
and we uh we support that.

Speaker 1 (03:03:56):
One so thank you so, much man And. Deddy we're
blessed to have you in our. Lives AND i know
and you know and And wojoe knows now that our
children are together and they're watching out for each other
and they brought you to us and us to, you
and that's a blessing. Man thank you so. Much So
ella got your baby girl and Baby. Jack daddy loves

(03:04:18):
you AND i love you, Too. Mama so catch me on, TikTok,
Instagram facebook and. YouTube next week we have From Red
Dirt cryptids back again for the first time and over a.
Year by the, Way Brian, terrell, BABY i am fired
up to sit with, him. Dude he's an same type
of mentality and open minded, researcher doesn't shit, on nobody
shares his, information not a. Gatekeeper awesome. Dude so catch

(03:04:42):
us then and watch for those YouTube lives in the Woods.
Man eight thousand people have tuned into that and less
than a. Month where are you at wake? Up this
is Right and by the, Way, joe by the, way
normally did he grow three inches since being on the.
Show he's now at forty five. Percent thank you very.
MUCH i appreciate.

Speaker 4 (03:05:01):
It, beard that took about about a.

Speaker 8 (03:05:06):
Year it's getting thicker now after getting to hear about
our stories.

Speaker 1 (03:05:10):
Out in the. Woods he's a sexy. Mind he.

Speaker 4 (03:05:13):
Is he's a handsome.

Speaker 1 (03:05:13):
DUDE i got to catch.

Speaker 6 (03:05:15):
Up we're going to Do we're gonna do a lot
Of we're gonna do a lot of filming with you guys.

Speaker 1 (03:05:21):
Too, man, dude we are a good time and we
look great with no pants. On let's. Go why everybody
on the, side thank you so. Much you guys were
SO i love that they were so, talkative great, questions great,
attitudes great. People they're part of the Biggest Banto Richie
bee family and H i'm just gonna say, this, Well,
joe get us out of, here because that's what you. Do.

Speaker 8 (03:05:43):
Well thank, You thank you all for being on it
and Doc ROUND tv that which broke our record by
the way over three hours and five.

Speaker 4 (03:05:49):
Minutes because that's why we Are home of The.

Speaker 1 (03:05:53):
Bull let's go