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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
So I call him the
Elvis of farmers because he's
such a rock star.
Sometimes you can just get sofocused on that and then lose
sight of the importance ofmaintaining really a really
healthy support system andfriendship.
This is the first time I'veactually walked alone as a
woman.
Commitment doesn't mean givingup your freedom.
I think for a lot of men, thatword is very scary.
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We're committed to seeing wherethis goes.
That's a matter of respect, butit's not about giving up your
freedom.
We also have to have a sense ofindependence and be able to take
care of ourselves.
To love our You know, so we canshare and love others, you know?
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SPEAKER_02 (01:05):
Welcome
SPEAKER_00 (01:22):
to The Basic Show.
We're here at this gorgeoussuite at the Maybourne Beverly
Hills and our very specialguest, Carol Christ, who is the
Former First Lady of Florida andan emerging documentary
filmmaker.
Welcome to The Basic Show,Carol.
Thank you, Victoria.
It's so wonderful to be herewith you.
You look wonderful.
I like your look.
Is it the Queen Bee vibes I'mgetting from your...
SPEAKER_02 (01:43):
Yes, it's really
interesting.
This is very special, thislittle sweater.
I saw it and I was attracted toit because of the bees and the
crowns.
And I'm all about I mean, myfilm we'll discuss in a bit, but
I'm very into, like, ourpollinators, our bees, our
butterflies.
And so, yeah, I was just kind offeeling that whole vibe with it.
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Yeah, you gave me the
SPEAKER_00 (02:06):
queen bee vibe.
Queen bee vibe, of course.
Yeah, so speaking of the planet,I know you're working on a very
special project calledRejuvenation Nation.
Give us a little bit of thebackground about the project,
about the film, and the peoplewho are involved in this
project.
Oh, how wonderful.
SPEAKER_02 (02:21):
Yes, it's really a
passion project of mine.
I've really been about nature,the environment, things that
have all about impact.
The work that I've been doingfor the last few years really
focused on anything with reallypositive social environmental
impact.
And then I just decided, gee, Ireally wanted to do something to
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sort of educate and advocate forpro-planet initiatives.
SPEAKER_01 (02:53):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02 (02:53):
in that there's so
much information out there and
all sorts of different words,and whether it's climate change,
global warming, or some believein it, some don't, too much
carbon, not enough carbon, orwhat have you.
And I said, well, I'd like toset about finding out what this
is all about.
So Rejuvenation Nation is adocumentary film all about
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sustainability, carbon capture,and regenerative agriculture.
And we focus on supporting USfarmers U.S.
soil health and optimizingAmerica's food system for the
health and wellness of allAmericans.
But it certainly is a globalissue and a global message.
And we set about doing this in avery fun, entertaining way.
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We certainly do face issues.
We have what I like to call acarbon crisis.
Others call it a climate crisis.
But I think it's more about theimbalance or sort of the We're
not aligned with the naturalorder of things, like too much
carbon up there, not enough downhere.
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And by working with andmimicking nature, we can
rejuvenate, restore, and rebuildour topsoil, our food system,
and really live in abundance
SPEAKER_00 (04:10):
and in health.
And everything connected, right?
Our human body is connected tonature.
I love how you mentioned in ourprevious conversations when we
had a little chat yesterday, Ilove what you said that the
soil...
is replicating what we havewithin our organism.
Can you expand a little bit onthat?
It was really,
SPEAKER_02 (04:27):
really fascinating.
Well, what's interesting, and byno means I'm no expert, I'm not
a scientist, I'm not a farmer,I'm not, you know, a guru by any
stretch of the imagination.
I'm simply a curious mind and a,you know, private citizen that
set out to learn and discover.
And what's so interesting issoil is really the lifeblood of
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life.
life on earth like it really isa living thing soil is alive
soil has you know like the rootsystem and the microbes and the
you know all thesemicroorganisms and how it works
and how nature it's just sofascinating but um really what
goes on in the soil and what weultimately put in our bodies we
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have the biome and then we havethe microbiome so if we are not
um taking care of our foodsource, ultimately that's going
to affect our own bodies.
So we need to be more mindful ofour farming practices.
And, you know, the intention isnot to...
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It's to be very inclusive
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and have
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a very positive,
uplifting message for everybody
to participate and want to learnand work together to solve
problems.
But...
There are ways, why I sayrejuvenationation, it's about
going back to the way thingswere and restoring our topsoil
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and our food system to the wayit was decades ago before, more
of the industrial commercializedfarming
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practice.
And it seems such a global issueand such a big mission you took
upon yourself.
And I know- Humbling, yeah.
It is a really big mission ifyou think about it, but great,
great cause that meant forlongevity- And I know you have
quite a few very interesting,influential people who are part
of the documentary.
Maybe we can talk and name a fewof them.
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I know you mentioned the Queenof Versailles is part of the
project.
SPEAKER_02 (06:28):
Speaking of royalty
and queens and crowns.
Yes, a dear friend of mine,Jackie Siegel.
She's wonderful.
Queen of Versailles.
She's had her own documentaryfilm and also her series.
She's got a wonderful family.
I've known her.
Jackie and her husband, David,for many years.
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Unfortunately, he recentlypassed away.
He was a tremendous leader,actually the king of the
timeshares globally, the numberone in the world, and brilliant
man, a tremendousphilanthropist, giving back,
helping others.
And yeah, so she and I gottogether.
It was sort of by chance, weended up filming at one of her
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resorts.
Her family, they own 20, I thinkit's 25 resorts around the
country.
And it's called WestgateResorts.
And there's a wonderful onecalled Westgate River Ranch, and
it's just north of Palm Beach.
And we filmed there, and it wasjust amazing.
We had a lot of fun, and it wasreally like out with nature and
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airboat rides.
It's like being out in the,going back into the wild west,
like the old western town withthe saloon and the rodeos.
And it was just a lot of fun.
And she's been a big supporter.
She is a through her foundation,Victoria's Voice, which I've
been involved with for a fewyears now, about saving lives in
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the name of her daughter, whoshe lost to addiction,
unfortunately.
But it's all about health,wellness, and focusing on
healing the earth and takingcare of our planet.
This is our home, but alsotaking care of one another in a
positive way.
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So she's been a great advocate,friend, and she has really
stepped up to help us with thefilm rollout and raising
awareness.
SPEAKER_00 (08:23):
Because they feel
and support your mission.
Yes.
Because what you do is very,very important.
Yes.
Including some of the farmersyou mentioned in Steve Groff,
right?
Yes.
Maybe a few people, Steve Grofand Zach Airdem.
Yes, yes.
Those amazing people.
Can you just give a few words?
What's the involvement inRejuvenation
SPEAKER_02 (08:42):
Nation?
Yeah, what's interesting issomeone like Zach Airdem, he is
a reality television host aswell.
His series is called Serving theHamptons.
It was on HBO.
And Zach and I have a personalhistory going back like over 20
years.
He has a tremendous Americanstory coming to this country
with nothing and buildinghimself now.
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He's just got an amazingrestaurant and real estate.
And he's just truly theembodiment of the American dream
and a friend.
And so we got together to talkabout the importance of
supporting local farmers,utilizing local produce and
healthy nutrient-dense foods onhis menu.
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And he's like the...
he has picture perfect health.
You know, he is just so healthy,so strong.
He works 24 hours a day.
I don't know how he does.
He's literally bionic because hetakes such good care of
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himself.
SPEAKER_02 (09:38):
But how that's such
a big priority.
So we worked with him on that.
And just a sweet, a friendsupporting us with that.
And my other dear friend formany years, Andy Saban, who is
also someone I go back a longtime with and I was supporting
the SOFO Gala, which is a bigpro-planet, pro-environment
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event in Bridgehampton everysummer.
And so I started working on thatin 2019.
And he really kind of opened myeyes to the importance.
I mean, it goes back, yes, Icare for nature.
And as a little girl growing up,I always felt really close and
connected to the ocean,particularly, and being just out
in nature with animals and justthe glory of it all and the
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magic of it all, but neverreally getting immersed myself
in the advocacy for it.
And so through Andy Saban, myinvolvement in that event kind
of evolved.
So he's a big supporter andadvocate for Rejuvenation
Nation.
So we're very blessed to havehim.
He's a global philanthropist,wonderful human being, all about
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helping others.
And finally, a new friend.
So I have old friends and somenew ones.
I've met a lot of new ones.
And one in particular, SteveGroff, he is a celebrity in his
own right.
He's a thought leader.
And I guess now it's a fifthgeneration farmer in Lancaster,
Pennsylvania.
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And I had consumed literallythousands of hours of content
online.
YouTube and every documentaryyou can think of and just doing
my own research and online.
And he was sort of a constantout there as someone who I just
thought, gee, you know, he'sreally interesting.
He knows everything aboutregenerative agriculture.
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And he really is.
He's a speaker.
He's an educator.
He's sort of on the circuit outthere really supporting other
farmers.
So I call him the Elvis offarmers because he's such a rock
star.
And he was just so gracious.
We filmed with him as well.
And he hosted a global summitwith people from around the
world and helped us on ourmission.
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So yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (11:54):
So Carol, you're so
busy.
You have all these connections.
You have these great people whoare supporting your mission,
which is amazing.
And I know you all over theplace.
You travel.
And you're a very, verysuccessful and aspirational
woman.
So with that being said...
How women like yourself find,you know, a match?
How women like yourself find aman who would be a pair with
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your character, energy, yoursuccess?
Can you share us your opinionabout, you know, dating, I
guess, in your 50s?
SPEAKER_02 (12:25):
Ah, I see.
Well, first of all, back at you,because you're a total rock
star.
You're so beautiful andfabulous, and we have our whole
history that we can get into ata future date.
But you're very sweet and verykind with your words.
Well, you know, it's complicatedbecause as a woman who married
at a very young age, I was in myearly 20s and I've been married
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twice.
I was basically married for 26
SPEAKER_01 (12:49):
years
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back to back.
And, you know, that was what Iknew.
I never really dated in thetraditional sense of the word
like kind of as a young girl andthen a little later in life.
And it's just that I've been sosort of busy dating.
With everything going on, ofcourse, we had COVID.
And then I was sort of launchingmy business at that time in 2019
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and all about capital with aconscience and hosting these
tech summits and things likethat.
And then it was challenging.
So it was really kind of new forme.
But the question was kind of,what do I look for?
I went, Well, here's what it is.
It's about maturity.
It's like coming into your ownand connecting with your true
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self and who I really am.
I think for a long time, I waspart of a couple and sort of
this sort of thing, which islike a meshing yourself and
really, you know, connectingyourself completely in every
aspect of your life.
It's just kind of like humanconnection.
SPEAKER_00 (13:51):
You kind of lose
SPEAKER_02 (13:52):
yourself, right, in
the relationship.
SPEAKER_00 (13:54):
Yeah.
You
SPEAKER_02 (13:54):
forget who you
really truly are, what you
personally like.
There you go.
So a lot of the time is spentlike, sure, you know, raising
kids and running a business orwhatever, but you become a true
team together.
And at least in my experience, Idon't know that it's everyone's
experience, sometimes you canjust get so focused on that and
then lose sight of theimportance of maintaining really
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a really healthy support systemand friendships and
relationships.
Male, female, all, you know,backgrounds and people who are
there for you and have yourback.
And because in this life, youdon't really know.
Life is complicated.
It's full of challenges.
And we just, there are noguarantees of anything.
So who is this
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Mr.
Right in your head?
Because obviously you'regorgeous.
You're successful.
You have beautiful, amazingenergy.
Feminine energy, very feminine.
I guess that's what most of theguys, no matter the age, looking
for.
But I feel nowadays we have thisreally messed up dating culture
where we are looking for thethings that we don't know we're
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looking for.
And men, older men, may belooking for something that they
don't even think what they'relooking for.
So in a sense, who is that Mr.
Right in your head?
Who would be a match for Carol?
SPEAKER_02 (15:11):
Right.
That's a great question.
I don't know.
When you figure it out, let meknow.
I'm not really sure.
I'm still exploring.
But yeah, you know, I've justbeen so consumed with this
project.
But to be perfectly honest, likenow on the other side of it, you
know, this has just been, youknow, you have to understand if
you're really intensely focusedon a project like you as an
entrepreneur, you'veaccomplished so much yourself,
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self-made and done so manyextraordinary things.
It's very, like, you need tofocus.
Like, when you know, okay, I'mready for love.
Like, I'm kind of really openand I'm going to make time for
that person.
And it's, I'm a really bigbeliever in, like, manifesting.
I'm a big believer in, like,connecting with the universe.
I mean, that's part of why Ilove being out in nature.
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It's sort of like your ownpersonal, I don't know,
connection to God or whatever,that higher power or just even
the universe, whatever yourbelief system is.
and really get to your essenceand your core of what you want
and need.
And ultimately, you gotta beyour own best friend, have your
own back, and you've got tobelieve in yourself and you've
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got to come from a mature place.
It's easy to get caught up inemotion and it's also easy to be
impatient, but it's just bynature, it's a numbers game.
I mean, I don't wanna say it's agame, but navigating life
certainly as a woman in her 50sout there in the dating world.
I mean, it's just a far smallerpool.
SPEAKER_00 (16:36):
Like when we're 20s
and 30s.
But you're already, you know, inthe circle of really successful,
a wealthy man.
So what's the problem or what'sthe issue maybe you personally
encountered, maybe notpersonally for yourself, but
maybe around your acquaintances,why it's so hard to find your
match?
Especially in your 50s, right?
We talked about the apps, right?
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So it's like, you're just kindof diving into this jungle,
right?
Of all kinds of you know, ourcharacteristics.
It's a good
SPEAKER_02 (17:04):
metaphor.
It's about the unknown anduncertainty and having to
navigate parts unknown, right?
So, I mean, it's a process.
It's something that I think, youknow, you have to have an open
mind.
You have to have an open heart.
You've got to be, you know, wetalked about guarding your
heart, protecting yourselfbefore you get to that stage,
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before you get carried away.
You really need to get to know aperson.
And these things take time.
And I feel at the very least,you know, the foundation is
friendship.
So we want to...
And I'm not telling you theseare things I focused on years
ago.
I'm saying this is something I'mcoming to understand and evolve
as a woman at this stage in mylife.
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And forward-looking, like a lotof the friends that I have are
typically older and some arewidowed or divorced or whatever
their life situation is.
And not necessarily expectedor...
whatever.
And, you know, you just reallykind of figure out, okay, I
thought for sure, you know, Idefinitely want to get married
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again.
I'm so traditional.
Like I want to be, you know,part of a couple, a unit.
And, you know, but it takes alot of time also as a woman to
get to a place where you'recomfortable going out to an
event, to a party, to a dinner.
And it's a lot, a bunch ofcouples and you're solo and they
got to be okay with that.
So it's, if you're not reallycomfortable being, I call it
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walking alone.
You know, this is the first timeI've actually walked alone as a
woman.
And it was certainlyuncomfortable for a while where
I was kind of likeself-conscious, like, oh, you
know, it's always coupleseverywhere.
But I'm really okay with it nowbecause I'm comfortable with
myself and I understand that itis a process.
And so that ideal man, okay,well, let's talk about the
basics, right?
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Yes, what does he have?
Let's do the checklist.
He's gotta be sweet.
He's gotta be kind.
I mean, he's gotta have a, agood heart, honesty,
SPEAKER_01 (18:57):
integrity.
We're not into the players.
I mean,
SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
God bless them.
We don't need to be judging thembecause who knows, they might
outgrow it and be okay.
But whatever floats your boat,like you don't know someone's
situation or story and, youknow, everybody's on their own
journey.
But I would say, I mean,intellect is very important.
I mean, people don't have to beformally educated.
I'm just saying what works forme.
Like people can do whateverworks for them.
Yeah, you need to find yourmatch.
Whether they like musicians orpoets or, you know, artists or
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whatever.
But I'm really interested inpeople who are very
conscientious.
They're educated, at leastknowing what's going on in the
world, caring about thecommunity they live in or the
world that we live in, and justbeing aligned with my values, I
think is...
He needs to be handsome, maybe.
Well, okay, we'll get to talkabout the physical.
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I'm a sucker for a good-lookingman.
I mean, what can I say?
He needs to be handsome.
So looks are good.
You know, we want somebody...
I think ultimately...
You know, it sounds cliche.
Somebody who takes care ofhimself,
SPEAKER_00 (19:56):
maybe, in a way,
right?
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (19:57):
Like, he doesn't
have to be movie star handsome,
but certainly, you know, health,wellness, fitness, being, you
know, conscientious of yourappearance, how you dress, how
you present.
I mean, it's just the businessof life, right?
You should show up and be yourbest self, I think.
And more importantly, beinghealthy.
You know, mentally healthy,physically healthy.
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You know, someone who...
ideally is nurturing.
Now, it doesn't necessarily meanphysically.
That could be emotionally.
It could be mentally supportive.
It could be spiritual.
Just most important, I thinkit's about a deep connection.
And I think in the process, Ithink if you go through it,
knowing that friendship
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is what matters
SPEAKER_02 (20:41):
at the end
SPEAKER_00 (20:41):
of the
SPEAKER_02 (20:41):
day,
SPEAKER_00 (20:41):
if you...
But that takes time, right?
Like things you talk about, veryimportant, but that...
doesn't come the first time youstart dating somebody, right?
Friendship, compassion,understanding, trust,
communication all comes withtime.
So how do you, first of all,find your match and see them in
instant, right?
And then you probably have tohave commitment issue towards
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each other to get to that point.
And I feel from talking to manydifferent women that the main
problem from the men's side isnot being wanted to be committed
to a relationship.
What do you think about that?
Do you think women tend to bemore committed than men?
Well,
SPEAKER_02 (21:19):
I can speak to that
for a moment, I think, given I
have many guy friends, many ofwhom are single and real friends
to me.
And I think people have amisconception, men have a
misconception.
I actually just talked aboutthis yesterday.
Commitment does not mean givingup your freedom.
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Being committed to anotherperson in a relationship,
meaning, okay, you get to knowthem the first couple days, you
kind of get to know them alittle bit, and then you're kind
of like, okay, I think we've hadsome dialogue.
I think we have compatibility.
I think it's just like soimportant.
You don't need to do the samethings necessarily or be
passionate about the samethings, but you're kind of
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compatible.
It sort of works together,right?
Yes.
And once you've identified thatand it seems that the person is
sincere and authentic and you'refeeling those vibes, well, then
I think that, you know,commitment to one another, like
if you get to that next level ofintimacy or whatever, it's sort
of an understanding like you'renot going to be running around
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dating 10 other people and I'mnot going to do that.
We're committed to seeing wherethis goes.
That's a matter of respect, butit's not about giving up your
freedom.
Right.
I think as a younger person, Ijust assumed, I guess it was
modeled for me in my house withmy mom.
She was traditional.
She immigrated here fromScotland, very old school
values, very traditionalhousehold.
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Her life was my, you know, herfamily and her husband and her
children.
And she's a classic housewife.
So, you know, but that's notnecessarily the situation in the
21st century.
I mean, the modern day.
women are encouraged to havetheir own careers and their own
interests and their own livesoutside.
And I just feel like freedomdoesn't mean, like commitment
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doesn't mean giving up yourfreedom.
I think for a lot of men, thatword is very scary, but it
SPEAKER_00 (23:12):
all boils down to
communication.
It probably feels fearfulbecause when the woman maybe
gives more initiative, so theguys kind of step back, does it
come back to the natural, youknow, basic instinct in the
nature world that the guy, needsto work for the female, right?
He needs to prove, you know, heis worthy.
Because as we spoke yesterday,when a woman is in a
relationship, she's willing togive everything, her time, her
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attention, her support, right?
But if she would give it toevery single guy she meets,
she's kind of wasting herenergy.
And if the guy is not reallyready to commit, it's kind of
going one way.
So is it maybe the...
The initiative shifted.
Maybe we need to give space andstep back and let the men prove
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themselves and make their firstmove and prove themselves before
you actually fully committed.
But I guess they get feared andscared as soon as the woman
shows a little bit of initiativeand say, okay, I mean, we've
been dating, seeing each otherfor six months.
Where's that ring?
So for the guys, they feeltrapped.
in the sense that it feels likethey need to make that decision
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first.
What do you think about that?
Yeah,
SPEAKER_02 (24:19):
well, I mean, it's
sort of the chicken or the egg,
like the Mexican standard.
It all goes down tocommunication.
I mean, all sorts of books havebeen written.
You know, men, women, they'rejust simply wired differently in
their DNA.
I'm learning that more and more.
But I think it's more likerespecting and understanding the
nature of women.
Like, safety and securitytypically are...
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our driving principles, justlike the, as maternal beings, as
women, that's what we sort ofseek out.
And men, naturally, you talkedabout like being a hunter and
going out and they like topursue and they like the chase.
I mean, that's not always thecase.
We can't make these kinds ofgeneralizations, but I think
generally you wanna feel whenyou're pursuing something
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perception that it has valueright like if something comes
too easy or someone doesn'treally let's say value
themselves and that's sensed Imean it's just in nature you
kind of feel the vibe of likeyou can call it desperation or
you can call it a little comingon a bit too strong or there are
many ways of saying but I thinkjust generally you know we could
speak to all differentgenerations of women whether
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they're in their I'm a totalwomen's advocate I mean
everything I've been through mylife I've been through some
stuff I've been through somethings and it is a gift in a way
if I can overcome that and getthrough that and use that to
help others.
And the wisdom and knowledgethat was not available to me
then, like if I only knew, thenI would have made so many
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different choices and I wouldhave probably spared myself a
lot of pain.
And so in the sense that I cando that for others and just sort
of at least presentpossibilities to consider before
going all in or whatever likejust always be your your own
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protector your own take care ofyourself and yes we want we're
all dependent we'reinterdependent as a society
humanity but we also have tohave a sense of independence and
be able to take care ofourselves to love ourselves
enough you know so we can shareand love others you know
SPEAKER_00 (26:30):
well that's actually
a great note to wrap up this
conversation, which I thinkshould definitely have to have
part two.
Oh, yeah.
We have to definitely dive inbecause it's a very interesting
topic.
It's very unprecedented rightnow.
A lot of women, especiallysuccessful women, face the same
issues and they want to find asupporting partner.
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But at the same time, becausethe standards are so high now,
because we have so much morefreedom to do what we do and
have hobbies and have businessesand be successful.
So finding the right partner isa little bit more challenging,
especially, you know, at thistime we have so much choice in a
sense, right?
But so many people still findingtheir own, you know, their true
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love and trying to find their,you know, forever love, forever
happy ending.
But thank you for sharing yourperspective, Carol.
Thank you for having
SPEAKER_02 (27:23):
me.
This is so wonderful and anhonor and I'm so proud of you
and so happy for you and tocelebrate this great success and
this journey for you andWhatever I can do to be
supportive, you know, to you.
Thank you.
Same here.
Female power, women power.
Absolutely.
We got to take care of eachother.
I mean, on a final note, women,you know, we need to get with
each other and stop thisnonsense of like backbiting.
Like we need to be united andhave compassion for each other
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and be kind to each other.
And because we need each other.
And we're already doing that.
So.
SPEAKER_00 (27:52):
Well, either way,
set a good example, right?
Yeah.
Well, thank you for coming toThe Basic Show.
And I'm looking forward for thepart two.
Absolutely.
Thank you, Carol.
Thank you.
Thank you.