MIKE RASHID: Mastering Mindset, Masculinity & Modern Power| EPISODE 8

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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
A person's breath, really the essence of your
spirit, the animating force oflife.
Because if you don't control it,you're out of control.
Everything that ever will be isnow.
Part of the brain that theamygdala is in is called the
limbic, the ancient part of thehuman brain.
Because as long as you're in theprocess of making it happen,
it's happening.

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The lioness hunts and the lion sleeps.

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Processed food is a buzzword.

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You cannot live off the grid.

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It's survival of the fitt.
Divorce yourself from thesystem.

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Easier said than done.
If

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you say it's not easy, it's not easy.

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Moving to Tokyo.

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Well, my pleasure is being able to provide.
To be divine is to be wise.
Consistency is the spirit or thebreath of success.
Steroids don't kill people.
That's a lie.
That's a myth.
Miseducation of the Americanmind.
What candy does to a child'smind, so does information.
My lifestyle was going to giveme guilt.

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You call yourself a professional badass?

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I train myself every day to make life My bitch.

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They say luxury is a lifestyle.
I say it's a mindset.
And this one comes with roomservice.
Here at The Mayborn, whereEuropean charm meets California
flair, I don't just check in, Ireset.
Because real power isn't loud.
It's knowing when to ghost thenoise and draft something far

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more lasting behind the scenes.
The Mayborn, Beverly Hills.

SPEAKER_02 (01:32):
Hi,

SPEAKER_00 (01:49):
Mike.
Hello.
Hi, welcome to The Basic Show.

SPEAKER_01 (01:52):
Thanks for having

SPEAKER_00 (01:52):
me.
Nice to have you.
Welcome, welcome.
Nice to be here.
Thank you for taking the timeout of your busy schedule.
Yes, ma'am.
Thank you.
And talk to me.
So my question is, are younervous right now?

SPEAKER_02 (02:02):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (02:03):
So I am a little bit nervous.
And when I was driving here, Iwas thinking, I would like to
ask you, what is the advice youcan give for people who
experience anxiety before goingon stage or before filming
something or if they have anyimportant project on that day?
How do you get rid of anxietyand calm yourself down?

SPEAKER_01 (02:22):
Just, like, quit and run home.
Don't do it.

SPEAKER_00 (02:25):
Don't do it?
No, you can't.
No, just

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breathe.
Breathe.
Breathe.
Like, breathing...
It's interesting because aperson's breath is really the
essence of your spirit.

SPEAKER_02 (02:38):
That's

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literally what spirit means, is breath.
If people want to look it up,the etymology of spirit is
spiritus, and it is Latin forbreath, right?
That animating force of life.
So if you have a body, there'sno breath in it, no oxygen, it's
not alive.
So that breath controlseverything, like your spirit is
everything about you.

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So what you do is just breathebefore you're going to do what
you're going to do when you'refeeling that anxiety.
Okay.
Five, six, seven of them,however many it take.
And you're literally, literallycalming down your heart rate,
you know, making those nervesjust calm down.

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See, people, there's so manyfunctions of the body happening
at once.

UNKNOWN (03:30):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (03:30):
But we got to like control it.
Because if you don't control it,you're out of control.
And you seem kind of chaotic andkind of nervous

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and

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anxious.
And here's what's interestingabout being anxious, like
anxiety.
So...
you have a part of the brain,this little, like a
cashew-shaped part of the braincalled the amygdala, right?
The amygdala is where our fearand anxiety comes from.
That was necessary for us beingsafe when we lived more

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primitively, like, you know, outin nature and had predators
after us.
We don't live in that time nomore, so we have to, like,
not...
use the amygdala to that degree.
Now, when people do use theamygdala a lot, it becomes
stronger and bigger in thebrain, that part of the brain,

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like a muscle.
So they will default to anxietya lot easier.
And they'll have anxietydisorders or whatever it's
called, or anger or rage, firingback at people, stuff like that.
When you're using that amygdalaa lot, it just gets stronger and

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stronger.
So you got to not do that.
And how do you not do that?
Breathe.
Just being conscious of it.

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You know, sometimes what I do, I don't know why it
works.
Every time I have an importantproject, I'm driving, I do three
loud claps in my car.
And I also make the sound like,I don't know why.
And I right away feel goosebumpsthroughout my body.
I don't know if it's connectingmy mind to my body and sort of,

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using the frequency to setmyself to that energetic field.
I don't know how to explainscientifically, but that works
for me.
I

SPEAKER_01 (05:20):
mean, it sounds scientific already.
You're taking control.
Whatever your ritual is, you'redoing it to settle yourself.
And that's essentially what youwant to do.

SPEAKER_00 (05:34):
That's really good advice.
So Mike, you are a professionalboxer, entrepreneur.
You're a very influential figurein culture.
You've achieved so much andyou've had so many important
transformations.
My first question, I guess,would be second question.

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How do you start your morning?
What's the first thing you didtoday in the morning?

SPEAKER_01 (05:59):
Well, typically how I start my morning is with a
prayer.

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And

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I sit still for a little while and then I go to
the gym.

SPEAKER_02 (06:11):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (06:12):
I train cardio.
sauna, shower, office.
That's my typical morningroutine.

SPEAKER_00 (06:18):
Every day?
So you don't have any cheatdays?

SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
Oh, well, there's days that I just stay in bed a
little longer.
Today I did.
Also, I did on Thursday.

SPEAKER_02 (06:28):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (06:28):
Thursday, every Thursday I have a lecture that I
give to my community, and it'sin the evening.
It's at 6.
And...
I had a friend that I flaked onearlier this week with a fuhuka
because I'd just be tired in theevening.
So Thursday I was veryintentional about let me get up
a little later and start my daya little later so I have energy

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in the evening and that's what Idid.
So yeah, every now and then it'sa little bit different.

SPEAKER_00 (06:56):
So how do you approach discipline in a way?
Do you believe you have to bedisciplined 24-7 or sometimes
you have to kind of cheat hereand there just to enjoy and
indulge?

SPEAKER_01 (07:08):
Yeah, I don't necessarily think that cheating
or not being disciplined is fun.
It's more fun to be disciplinedand to be on point.
Two, okay, so for one to likecheat, indulge, what is that?
Food, alcohol, whatever.
You're not going to feel thatgreat.

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That might feel cool in thatmoment, but you're not going to
feel good afterwards.
And you're doing more damage toyourself.
You're like investing insomething bad later.
Because how the human bodyworks, our bodies and mind is,
say for instance, a person isdehydrated and they have the
physical effects of dehydration.

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It's not because of right now,it's because of yesterday.
It takes a while for everythingto cascade properly in the body.
So you're drinking tonight, youwon't pay for it tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 (08:04):
Right?
So you see the bigger picture,right?
Always the bigger picture.
Always the

SPEAKER_01 (08:07):
bigger.
Yeah.
All right, so back to thatamygdala.
Yes.
All right, so the part of thebrain that the amygdala is in is
called the limbic, the limbicsystem.

SPEAKER_02 (08:16):
Okay.

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That's the ancient part of the human brain.
That's what all animals have,robust limbic system.
That's just survival, instincts,so on and so forth.
In the limbic system, there's noplanning.
It's like, what I need rightnow.
I'm hungry, I'm going to eatright now.
It's not, think about it, lionsdon't hunt and save.

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They hunt, kill, and then theygo hungry for a long, for
however long.
And most lions die ofstarvation.
People don't realize that.

SPEAKER_00 (08:45):
Can I correct you?
The lioness hunts and the lionsleeps.

SPEAKER_01 (08:50):
Okay.
Right.
Lions, when I say lion, I'mspeaking of

SPEAKER_00 (08:53):
men

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and women, but...
Male lions hunt as well.

SPEAKER_00 (08:56):
They do?

SPEAKER_01 (08:57):
Yes, they, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (08:58):
You don't think male lions...
I feel like they're just takingout everything.
The lioness hunts.

SPEAKER_01 (09:03):
Okay, that's okay.
But they do hunt as well.

SPEAKER_00 (09:06):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (09:07):
So they die.
Most of them die of starvationbecause they don't plan.
So a lion is a perfect exampleof just limbic energy.
A human is a perfect example offrontal lobe, a cerebral cortex
of not being instinctual, notdoing what you want to do just

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because you want to do it rightnow.
Plan.
We can exercise, right?
So we know that exercise willprolong our life, give us some
more quality of life.
We can do that.
Animals don't do cardio.
You know what I mean?
And I'm not saying animals arebad, but humans, we have so much
responsibility because We havethis high degree of intellect to

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where we have, you know, wewield magic, really, technology
and stuff like that.
So we got to be responsibleabout it.
We can, like, you know, we canextract nutrients from the earth
and put it in a pill to help usquicker.
So we got to be mindful abouthow we're doing that with
anything, you know, alcohol.

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Somebody figured out how to...
you know, extract, becausealcohol, everything is natural.
Everything comes from nature toan extent.
So somebody figured out how todistill that and have fun with
it.
But you got to be mindful aboutit.
So if we were all limbic, we'djust go crazy with everything.
And a lot of people do.
A lot of people indulge in food,pleasure.

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Those are the two killers, foodand

SPEAKER_00 (10:41):
pleasure.
So speaking of food, what arethe maybe top three things foods
that you would say should be inany person's diet and maybe
three outside of the fast foodthat we shouldn't be consuming
that's poison?

SPEAKER_01 (10:58):
Yeah, I can't say for every person because you got
to eat what you like.
Like, people should be eating,you know, healthy whole food
diets, but it's got to besomething that they enjoy
eating.
If not, it's not going to besustainable.
It's like somebody doing a crashdiet, lose a bunch of weight,

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but is that sustainable?
If it's not, then you're reallynot doing yourself that much of
a service.

SPEAKER_00 (11:26):
Right.
Well, salad is not enjoyable.
I haven't heard people saying,oh my God, I love salad, right?
Do you have any threeingredients that, let's say,
your specific diet?
Not ingredients, foods that youalways have in your fridge.

SPEAKER_01 (11:40):
I'm very basic.
Okay.
Basic.

SPEAKER_00 (11:43):
Welcome to the basic show.

SPEAKER_01 (11:45):
What I eat.
I love salmon.

SPEAKER_00 (11:47):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (11:47):
I love beef.
Rice, she cooks very good.
And I want the same thing everytime.
Some chunks of cubed steak.
Okay.
Some blackened salmon.
Okay.
rice uh avocado and somebroccolini

SPEAKER_00 (12:03):
yeah that makes sense because it's not processed
food right a lot of people justhave a lot of dressing and uh
ketchup and mayo things likethat your diet is very would you
say it's very clean in a sense

SPEAKER_01 (12:15):
i mean how do you determine how do you define
clean

SPEAKER_00 (12:18):
that it's not processed that it's not
processed food so it's prettymuch farm to table, so to say.
I mean, it's hard to say aboutsalmon because for me, I haven't
had fish for a while becauseit's hard to find wild Alaskan
salmon.
It's always farm raised.
And that's another thing how to,yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
Wherever you find farm raised, there's wild caught
as well.
Yeah, for the most part, I tryto do a little overly processed
as possible, but process is aloose term, you know?
Here's the thing, too.
People got to educate themselvesand be aware of buzzwords,
right?
Because processed food is abuzzword, right?

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And when I say processed food,what do you think of?

SPEAKER_00 (13:02):
I mean something in a can, you know, like tuna in a
can.
Do you

SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
know what that means, though, the processed
food?
of it being processed?

SPEAKER_00 (13:11):
Why is it considered processed?
Chemically processed, I guess,for the longevity of it, so it
stays longer in your fridge.
That's, to me, it's processed,because natural foods usually
spoils faster.
So I can go back from myexperience coming from Latvia,
the strawberry smell, and theyget bad, like in a week here,
you buy fruit, and it could stayfor a month in your fridge, so

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there must be something in it.
So to me, it's sort ofpesticides or some kind of
additives that they add for thefood to stay longer fresh but
not necessarily mean healthier

SPEAKER_01 (13:42):
for you.
Yes, ma'am.
So here's the thing.
It's a nuanced conversation thatshould be had, but people are
very...
They're very tethered tofeelings, to what they feel like
things should be or is.
So process is not inherentlybad.
Some stuff process is bad,right?

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But not everything.
Process literally means...
It's a silly word because...
packaging meat

SPEAKER_00 (14:12):
oh it means that's a

SPEAKER_01 (14:13):
process oh that's technically what processes
everything but then it can goall the way up to the
preservatives right uhgenetically modified right and
even that gmo is a buzzword thatwas yielded out because of
marketing gmo is not bad most ofthe food that we eat is

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genetically modified.
And it's not that people aredoing this to harm us.
We're doing this to give us,make this food more palatable
and enjoyable or for it not tospoil because we do shop in
bulk, right?
That's just the nature of oursociety, right?

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So these things are notinherently bad, but You know,
you have, look, we live in acapitalistic society and people
got to not be naive, right?
Capitalism reigns supreme.
So when you're going to WholeFoods and you're thinking it's
all,

SPEAKER_00 (15:10):
it's

SPEAKER_01 (15:11):
all

SPEAKER_00 (15:11):
great.
Organic.
They're just

SPEAKER_01 (15:12):
marketing to you, right?
They got organic plates, organict-shirts, a t-shirt, right?
Organic.
All right.
So and I know this fromexperience because we are in the
food slash supplement industry.
In order for one to be deemedorganic, you let the people know

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you pay a fee.
They give you the dates thatthey're going to come.
We'll be there in between thisdate and this date.
This is the checklist of whateverything has to be.
So that got to be it.
When we get there, you can dothat.
Have it ready for that for themwhen they come.
And when they leave, you go backto doing business as usual.
Nobody knows what's organic andwhat's not.

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We have to trust thesebusinesses.
And I don't trust nobody,especially when it comes to
money, because once again, oneissue with capitalism is you
have the fiduciary duty to makemore profits for your business.

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You have to do that.
So what does that mean?
So that means in food, you haveto make more margins on what
you're selling, right?
So your quality can't be thatgreat, right?
And that goes for everything.
When profit margins are the mostimportant metric, where's the

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quality going to be at?
It's going to go away becausehigh quality, high profit
margins do not go hand in hand.

SPEAKER_00 (16:44):
So what is the solution to that?
We cannot live off the grid,right?
How do we educate ourselves inunderstanding what is actually
organic, what is not?
How to make these decisions?

SPEAKER_01 (16:57):
Yes, ma'am.
Well, we have to have a degree.
I say I don't trust nobody, butIf I choose to buy organic fruit
or produce, I'm trusting thatit's organic, right?
But if it's not, I don't reallycare.
It's not that big of a deal.
Wash your fruit, right?
Because here's the thing.
We have, all right, so if wewere to go to the rainforest and

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eat a banana, we'd throw up.
We wouldn't even be able todigest it.

SPEAKER_00 (17:26):
That was my next question, right?
We're probably not event-builtright now.

SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
We are accustomed.
Our bodies have...
adapted and evolved to be ableto process food.
So we're fine.
The fact that the reason that weare such a robust species is
because we have the ability toadapt.
There were other human speciesthat existed before.
They died out because theycouldn't adapt to certain

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things.
And that's what You know in oneof the laws of nature is
survival of the fit right so andthat's like fit of our Bodily
systems and so on and so forthjust like a family or like you
know bunch of elephants mm-hmmone's born and that's a runt, he

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might not make it, right?
So the weaker of whateverspecies always kind of die out.

SPEAKER_00 (18:20):
So you're suggesting it's okay to go and accept the
modifications in food, or youthink we should sort of rebel in
a way that, okay, what's bestfor our bodies and make a
change?

SPEAKER_01 (18:33):
I think people should be mindful of what they
put in their bodies, for one.
Rebel, I guess you could saythat.
Or I like to say, divorceyourself from this culture, this
system, and come up with yourown.
So when it comes to food, youbeing very specific about what

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you're eating.
I'm a Muslim and we'represcribed to eat halal, to eat
a certain way.
And then my minister, myteacher, they're very specific
about Restricting it even more.
And I'm cool with that.
So, you know, having someguidelines, some rules

SPEAKER_02 (19:14):
will

SPEAKER_01 (19:15):
keep you good.
Right.
But if that's not the play foryou, being healthy and look,
maybe somebody can affordorganic.
Just still get the apples, stillget the veggies.
Right.
You know, so it's like.
Like I said, it's a nuancedconversation, just like water,
tap water.

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People talk about tap waterversus bottled water.
It's literally the same.
I've done the research.
Bottled water is not morecleaner than tap water, right?
Or whatever.
So it's just like in certainpoverty areas that's really bad,
it's not going to be that goodthere, right?
But mostly where we're at, youcould drink right out the

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faucet, it's fine.
And But these nuancedconversations people don't have
because why?
You're marketed to so heavy,right?
And water companies arebusinesses.

SPEAKER_00 (20:11):
It's interesting you mentioned apple and carrots, and
I remember movies back in theday.
You could see somebody walkingdown the scene just biting on a
carrot.
Right now, I don't remember anycommercial or any modern,
contemporary movie or film whereyou could see characters eating
fruits.
And we're surrounded by...
advertising, commercials, alltargeted with the purpose to

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consume, to sell.
And you don't see that anymorein media or in pop culture.
And when you said apple or acarrot, I'm like, I don't
remember last time I've seenanybody having an apple or
eating a carrot.

SPEAKER_01 (20:49):
Very true.
You got a good point there.
Yeah, this is a consumeristicsociety.
The average American family has$3,000 saved.
The average Japanese family,$30,000 saved.
We live in debt.

SPEAKER_00 (21:04):
Moving to Tokyo.
Nice.

SPEAKER_01 (21:07):
But yeah, so it's like the values here is upside
down.
It's so strange.
We live in a world.
We were talking about this lastnight.
None of us are asked to be born,right?
But once we get here, we got topay for food, pay for cool air,
pay for water.

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It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (21:29):
It's crazy.
I had similar conversations theother day.
I was thinking we all have theright to be happy.
We're all the species of thisuniverse.
But if you think about it,anywhere you go in the world,
you probably couldn't find landthat is free, right?
You couldn't come.
you know, like if I have a foxor a wolf, they come, this is my
place, this is my area, this ismy forest.

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Nowadays, I don't think there'sa spot in the world that hasn't
been visited by influencers orbelongs to somebody.
So if you think why universe andland belong to certain people,
how was that distributed, right,throughout the years?
And we forget that we do havethe right, right, we do have the
right clean air, clean food,space to live, right?

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But now we're enslaved byrestrictions in the system.
And speaking of that, can youmaybe expand about your concept
of modern slavery in the sensehow we are addicted or dependent
on the system and how hard it isto break out from it?

SPEAKER_01 (22:31):
Yes, ma'am.
People use the term slavery alittle too loose.
Because the literal definitionof slavery is for one to be held
captive and made to work forfree.
So unless that's what people aredoing, then it's not slavery.
Now, I think people do.
Well, I know that we exist inmatrices and systems that may

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not be ideal for each person.
For instance, you know, I have aconcept like for my children to
stay home until they're going toget married.
and not work a job,

SPEAKER_00 (23:06):
right?

SPEAKER_01 (23:07):
They're going to work.

SPEAKER_00 (23:10):
A lot of girls will be questioned.
Okay.
Have questions.

SPEAKER_01 (23:13):
Okay, so your job is to, if you're in school, this
school, right, working out, youhave something you got to study
outside of school that's notschool related.
And whatever you want to do inlife, your passion, work on
that, right?
So, and that's it.
Why?
I'll tell you.

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So I use my son as an example.
Okay.
He's the oldest.
He's

SPEAKER_00 (23:36):
19.
How old is your son?
19?
Okay.
So

SPEAKER_01 (23:38):
he actually works with me with one of the
businesses.

SPEAKER_02 (23:42):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (23:44):
But he spends most of his day working on his
passion and his craft.
He has to work out.
He has to read, right?
If we took an eight-hour chunkout of his day to go work for
whoever, Chick-fil-A, I don'tknow, whatever an 18-year-old
can get a job at, What is itfor?

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What is that little money thatthey're giving you going to do
for you?
I'm going to tell you whatyou're doing.
You are wasting valuable timeout of your days, the best time
of your life.
Because when you're young, youcan learn so much.
When a person is young, we'renot supposed to be working all
our lives.
But when you're young, you laythat foundation.

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You work hard, right?
But work at something that'sbenefiting you, not somebody
else, right?

SPEAKER_00 (24:33):
Do you think it benefits him or it's more of a
protection?
No.

SPEAKER_01 (24:38):
My way?

SPEAKER_00 (24:38):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
It's benefiting him.
I'll tell

SPEAKER_00 (24:41):
you why.

SPEAKER_01 (24:41):
If he's working eight hours a day, 40 hours a
week, flipping burgers, right?
It's not even a lot of money.
Let's say he had his own place.
So he's basically getting alittle bit of money to pay rent,
right?
for an apartment that's not hisdream home.
It's not even his home, just torest, to go back to work, to get

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money, to go back here to sleep,rest, and pay to sleep, to go
back and keep working for thatguy over there.
He's making him rich, right?
So he's working with the familybusiness.
He's making himself rich, right?
He has equity, right, for one.
But best of all, he's working onwhat he wants to do.
as well.
He's perfecting his craft.

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And, you know, we as parents,you know, we love our children.
We should try to set ourselvesup to be able to give our
children that space.
I know that's not everyone'sreality to be able to provide
that kind of space to where theydon't have to go out and do this
and do that.
But that's my thing, you know?
So, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (25:44):
Well, you've definitely done something right
because in my experience, mostof the kids that stay with their
parents, they like discipline.
They play video games or they goparty or, you know, they
procrastinate.
So, did you have to instillcertain mentality?
And was he rejecting it or hewas like, yes, that's exactly

(26:07):
what I want to do and followingyour...
Because I guess obviously it'scoming from you, right?
How did he perceive it?
Was there any rejection in asense?
No

SPEAKER_01 (26:15):
rejection.
He was a kid that wanted to playvideo games and then he grew out
of it.
I just think that when you arefocused and he's been working
out all his life, right?
When you're doing all thethings, your mind is working
properly.
So of course, Video games, cool.

(26:36):
It's an allure to that, but thenit goes away because he's
focused on progress.
He just is, literally.
I got to calm him down sometimebecause He feel like he should
be further along in lifealready.
Oh, that's great.
So I'm like, chill out.

SPEAKER_00 (26:51):
You're lucky.
I mean, you're definitely doingsomething right since I know a
man in their 40s is stillplaying video games and
procrastinating.

SPEAKER_01 (26:58):
Look, I wish I could play video games.
Video games is fun.
I just don't get nothing out ofit no more.
And I got other things to do.

SPEAKER_00 (27:04):
It's like pretending to live in...

SPEAKER_01 (27:06):
It's an escape.

SPEAKER_00 (27:07):
Escape.
Which

SPEAKER_01 (27:09):
people need, right?
But I find my escape indifferent things now.
You know, more creative waysand...
And I try to do it to where it'sstill going to benefit me, not
just waste time.

SPEAKER_00 (27:20):
Well, in one of your previous interviews or videos,
you mentioned you calledyourself a professional badass.
That was a long time ago.
I love that.
So you're doing so many things.
What is your favorite thing?
You have your businesses, you'rein athletics and sports, and you
also have this spirituality.
We're going to talk a little bitmore about your book.

(27:41):
What's your favorite thing as ofright now from all of the...
activities that you're a partof?

SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
That's a good question.
So five minutes ago, I wouldhave said, or 10 minutes ago, I
would have said my mentorshipprogram, right?
But I have to say it's mysupplement company because
that's the most lucrative forme.
And that's important because itallows me to give my family a

(28:11):
good life, right?
And that's what I'm tethered to.
You know, not fun, not pleasure.
Well, my pleasure is being ableto provide and protect.
So that's probably my favoriteright now.

SPEAKER_00 (28:24):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (28:25):
Until something else comes and topples that
financially.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
I briefly looked at your supplement companies.
You had one.
I don't know if it's not aflavor.
What's the correct word?
Something with mushrooms?
Can you tell me?
That's the part I want to learnmore about mushroom culture.
Can you tell us a few secrets oringredients or what the flavor
or taste is more beneficial,let's say, from your supplement

(28:55):
line?

SPEAKER_01 (28:56):
Well, the particular product you're talking about is
called Kinetic.
It's a pre-workout.
And pre-workouts give peopleanxiety.
They get them all jittered.
So what we did is we putfunctional mushrooms, not magic
mushrooms, not psilocybin,functional mushrooms.
It doesn't make you high.

(29:16):
They're called adaptogens.
And what it does is it mitigatesstress, mitigates anxiety.
And why that's beneficial for apre-workout, because a
pre-workout will have you uphere and then you crash.
So this one keeps you likeyou're elevated.
And you just go.
And the fade, it doesn't dropever.

(29:38):
It just fades later in the day.
You know what I mean?
So huge benefits to that.
So that's why we put themushrooms in kinetic.
We're the only people that haveever done that.

SPEAKER_00 (29:48):
Really?

SPEAKER_01 (29:48):
Yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_00 (29:49):
Oh, wow.
Yeah, that's the first thingthat caught my mind.
Like I haven't seen thatanywhere.
Amazing.
So let's talk a little bit abouthow you started, right?
So you are a two-time GoldenGlove.
gloves winner if we speak aboutboxing so what was the hardest
thing that you learned in boxingthat you still apply till this

(30:12):
day outside of the sports world

SPEAKER_01 (30:16):
hardest thing about boxing that i learned i don't
know i started so early thatnone of it was hard right You
know, just to be honest, it justgave me a lot of discipline at
an early age.
And when you just when you startas a kid, you don't realize, oh,
this is weird that you'rejogging.

(30:37):
You're 11 years old, jogging atsix in the morning.

SPEAKER_02 (30:39):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (30:40):
This is what you do.
And then you are so tethered tothat.
I was so tethered to my trainingbecause boxing is like it's a
sport.
It's a sport, but it's a sportthat.
The outcome is based on yourtraining, right?
Your running and so on and soforth.
So, you know, the type ofdiscipline that I developed with

(31:01):
that, it just set me up forlife, you know?
And it's still with me to thisday.
And I'm 48.
I started when I was 11, right?

SPEAKER_02 (31:09):
Wow.

SPEAKER_01 (31:10):
So, and that discipline has been with me my
entire life, you know?
So, yeah, but discipline is hardfor some people, right?
Because people, you know,they're not set up with that
when they're young.
And I got to thank my father forthat, like for real.
Me and my father go back andforth on a lot of things, but I

(31:31):
really appreciate the fact thathe put me in boxing at such an
early age.
And not just threw me in there,but like he was like guiding me.
And like my father would take meto like the park where the sand
is at.
And I had to sprint sand, dosand sprints.
He called it the sand pit.
like all kind of crazy stuff,like hiking up mountains and
stuff as a kid.

(31:52):
So he made me crazy at a earlyage, and it's just so deeply
ingrained in me.
And that, you know, one may lookat that as, oh, well, that's
just exercise.
That's very important.
It's very important, right?
For many reasons, right?
For one, Exercise, physical,mental is all the same, right?

(32:14):
This is one body here, right?
Our mind is not outside of ourbody.
It's right here.
And there's direct benefitscognitively and physiologically
in the brain from exercise,neurogenesis, a person's ability
to adapt to stress or mitigatestress, stress tolerance, right?
Emotional resilience, keepgoing, keep going, right?

(32:38):
Being, what's the word?
Consistent, right?
Consistency is the spirit or thebreath of success, for real.
Everybody I know that'ssuccessful is consistent.
They ain't got

SPEAKER_00 (32:50):
to be- You could be very talented, right?
But without being consistent,you might not go far.
Correct, correct.
And people who are consistentbut might not be as talented
will achieve better results.
That always happens,

SPEAKER_01 (33:01):
always happens.
So yeah, so yeah, thatdiscipline, powerful.

SPEAKER_00 (33:08):
So let me ask you this question.
So I think it's more for men andyou work in the supplement
industry.
There's good supplements and Iguess there's bad supplements
and enhancements.
So I want to ask your point ofview.
I don't know if you've heard in2026 in Las Vegas, there will be
enhanced games.
You heard about those?
So enhanced games where athletesare openly allowed and

(33:32):
encouraged to useperformance-enhanced drugs like
steroids and testosterone.
And they're going obviouslyagainst the traditional
standards from the Olympics.
What is your take on that?
Would you support that and say,yes, let's have it?
I

SPEAKER_01 (33:47):
think that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (33:48):
You think so?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
I want to see, if I'm going to pay money to see
some athletes, they better beway better than me.
That's entertainment, right?
A person, I'm of the mindsetthat I don't do drugs, but I'm
of the mindset that peopleshould be able to do drugs if
they want to.
It should be legal.
No one should be telling peoplewhat to do and what to put in
their bodies, right?

(34:11):
And, all right, so youmentioned, you said there's good
supplements, there's badenhancements.
What do you perceive as the badenhancements?

SPEAKER_00 (34:21):
That you have long-term side effects,
life-threatening side effects.
Well, if I'm not mistaking,there's a lot of accidental
death of athletes as theyinfluence their heart, they're
having heart attack or strokesor things like that, just
because, I mean, a lot ofbodybuilders from back in the
day, not in a good shape rightnow, and they have serious

(34:43):
health issues just because theyoverused certain supplements.
I don't know exact names, butI've heard examples of people
having like, I mean, in the gym,I've had a friend of a friend
who died on a treadmill justbecause he was using steroids.

(35:07):
No?
Tell me.
Give me the scientific point ofview.
If his autopsy said

SPEAKER_01 (35:11):
steroids killed him, then that's one thing, right?
Okay.
So, steroids is not asupplement?
It's highly improbable.
Okay.
Let's dig into this.

SPEAKER_00 (35:19):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (35:20):
All right.
So, once again, marketing,right?
Okay.
People are marketed to, right?
So, you have to really...
take it with a grain of saltwhenever they, the government,
deem something bad, right?
For instance, psychedelic drugs,right?
These were initially created fortherapeutic purposes.

(35:42):
People with depression, peoplewith anxiety, where traditional
medicine wasn't working, thisstuff would work, right?
And it wouldn't just work.
They wouldn't have symptoms forsix, seven months.
From LSD, when they were doingthe studies on that, People with
extreme depression and so on andso forth, two-day therapy,

(36:02):
right?
That means they're taking a lot,big doses with their therapist
for two days in a row, nosymptoms for six months, right?
But guess what?
That's not good for big pharmabecause big pharma needs you to
run out of pills every 30 daysso they can sell you more,
right?
So that's one of the reasons whythis was considered a Schedule

(36:23):
I.
They lied.
No therapeutic purposes allowed.
and highly addictive.
They use LSD to get people offof addiction from alcohol,
tobacco, illicit drugs, right?
Drugs that'll really kill

SPEAKER_00 (36:39):
you.

SPEAKER_01 (36:40):
So now let's talk about testosterone and hormone
replacement therapy, AKAsteroids.
Steroids is a part of regularmedicine.
It has been for a long time.
My grandma was on steroids.
She had a heart attack.
There's so many different usesfor steroids, for hormones.
Hormones are very important.
Now, when you see a 300-poundbodybuilder, if you don't know

(37:05):
what you're looking at, you'relike, this is crazy.
He's going to die.
A lot of these guys are superhealthy.
They do that.
This is not a way of life thatthey can do forever.
you got to understand nowthere's people that abuse it
right but let's talk about aprofessional bodybuilder what
you would see like who would bethe representation of steroids

(37:27):
most of those guys they have aperiod in which they they max
out they go hard they they setup their career and so on and so
forth and then when they retirethey stop right they may not
stop completely like thesteroids or hormone replacement
therapy But they take a lowerdose just for maintaining
health.
And this is something that'srecommended for men and women

(37:49):
after certain ages because yourhormone levels drop to a drastic
degree, not just because of age,but pollution, stress, so many
different things, processedfood, alcohol, whatever.
There are so many things thatare way worse that are super
legal, like alcohol, thatnobody, everybody, it's okay.

(38:10):
It's fine.
It's fine because it's legal,right?
But alcohol, you know how manypeople alcohol kills?
Okay, have you ever looked athow many people alcohol kill in
America versus steroids?

SPEAKER_00 (38:24):
What's the percentage?
You can't even

SPEAKER_01 (38:25):
compare it.
There's nothing here.

SPEAKER_00 (38:27):
So you're telling me there's more deaths?

SPEAKER_01 (38:29):
Steroids don't kill people.
That's a lie.
That's a myth.

SPEAKER_00 (38:33):
That's very controversial because every guy
I talk to, they say, oh, he's onsteroids.
It's bad for you.
What do you guys look

SPEAKER_01 (38:38):
like?

SPEAKER_00 (38:40):
Yeah, they don't look that.
They go to the gym.
The

SPEAKER_01 (38:42):
guys are saying this, right?

SPEAKER_00 (38:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (38:45):
What does he know?
You have to ask people, like,where are you getting this

SPEAKER_00 (38:49):
information from?
So you're telling me there's noside effects?

SPEAKER_01 (38:52):
Yes, there's side effects for anything, right?
If someone is abusingtestosterone,

SPEAKER_00 (38:57):
they

SPEAKER_01 (38:59):
can increase their blood pressure, right?

SPEAKER_00 (39:04):
Erectile dysfunction.

SPEAKER_01 (39:05):
Erectile dysfunction.
But if somebody has lowtestosterone, they have erectile
dysfunction and they have highblood pressure.

SPEAKER_02 (39:13):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (39:13):
Low testosterone is worse than high testosterone.
It's very dangerous, right?
You have emotional men, moody,no testosterone.
When a man is not activated andhis hormones are not aligned,
Well,

SPEAKER_00 (39:29):
yeah, but we're talking about extremes, right?
But say you would recommend, youwould advocate for using
steroids to become big andbulkier and stronger?

SPEAKER_01 (39:41):
No.
I advocate people doing whateverthey want to

SPEAKER_00 (39:44):
do.
Whatever they want to do.

SPEAKER_01 (39:45):
What do I think is healthy is this.
If you have symptoms of lowtestosterone, let's say you're
in a bad mood, you're lethargic,no energy, you have brain fog,
you can't get an erection,there's a lot of different
things, you should go to anendocrinologist or your doctor
and get your complete bloodpanel, which everybody should do

(40:09):
at least once or twice a year,and look at your markers, look
at your testosterone levels,right?
If they're If they're super lowand you have these symptoms,
then you should get ontreatment.

SPEAKER_00 (40:21):
Is there any natural way for men to increase their
testosterone without?

SPEAKER_01 (40:25):
100%.

SPEAKER_00 (40:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (40:26):
Yeah.
But they'll never be able to getit to where they can get it
exogenously.
That's just how the same withvitamin C.
You can never eat enough orangesto get the vitamin C that you
can get from a pill.

UNKNOWN (40:41):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (40:41):
What

SPEAKER_00 (40:42):
about the absorption of certain vitamins?
Do you believe that just bytaking a pill, it doesn't mean
you actually, your body willabsorb the nutrients, right?
There's a lot of chemicalprocesses, right?

SPEAKER_01 (40:54):
100%.
We kind of just leaped.
Yes.
That's okay.
But I'll touch on that.
So with my company, AmbrosiaCollective, we have certain
products that, you know, say,for instance, turmeric.

UNKNOWN (41:08):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
People buy turmeric all the time.
It does amazing things, right?
Actually, not the turmeric.
It's the cucumin, right?
Cucuminoid that's inside theturmeric.
So put it like this.
Cucuminoids are what acucuminoid to turmeric is what
vitamin C is to an orange.

(41:31):
That make sense?
The orange is not the healthything.
It's the vitamin C in it, right?
The orange is a carrier of thevitamin C.

SPEAKER_02 (41:39):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (41:39):
Turmeric is not really good for us or bad, it's
neutral, but it's thecucuminoids that's in it, the
cucumin that's in it, right?
That's the ingredient that helpsus, right?
So the antioxidants andeverything.
Now, the human body has a hardtime digesting that, right?
This is a fact.

(41:59):
94% of companies that sellturmeric, your body's absorbing
very little of it.
you're wasting, people arewasting their money.
We've done reports on it.
We've done our research andthere's a fix.
So we actually have a technologythat we employed on ours called
HydroKirk, which it fixes thatissue and it increases the

(42:27):
bioavailability of thecucuminoids of the turmeric so
that your body absorbs almostall of it.
And we even did a test.
We bought the most popular,turmeric brand and we got ours
and we did a test live one wefilmed it opened it up theirs it
just sits on top of the wateropen ours i

SPEAKER_00 (42:50):
have no disappointment because i hate
the taste of turmeric and i wasforcing myself to take a shot of
it and now you're telling me idid it for nothing

SPEAKER_01 (42:58):
even like you can't eat enough turmeric to get it
it's impossible you need Tumorcomes in roots, right?
It's funny because people willcomment, oh, I can just make a
tea.
Okay.
You're getting like that.

SPEAKER_00 (43:14):
It's more like a placebo.
It's a placebo.
It's

SPEAKER_01 (43:17):
in food coloring.
That's all it is,

SPEAKER_00 (43:19):
right?

SPEAKER_01 (43:20):
So technology, look, people have this thing, this
hatred, this self-hatred, right?
People hate themselves, right?
I'll tell you why.
Because they say it's man-made.
I'm like, what's wrong withthat?
we're men, humans, right,mankind, right?
What's wrong with us using ournatural minds to alchemize the

(43:41):
resources that we have at ourdisposal to make things better
for us?
What is wrong with that?
Do you not trust yourself,right?
Do you, you know, you thinkyou're not worthy of coming up
with these incredible inventionsor whatever?
Listen, humans, we, people,Everything is so nuanced.

(44:03):
Nature this, nature that.
I'm like, you know, pollution.
We're destroying the earth.
We can never destroy the earth.
We can destroy ourselves.
And if you love nature so much,go live in it.
Get out of the AC.
Leave the car.
Walk.
Ask a horse if you can ride onhim.
Good luck.
Keep yourself safe out there.

(44:25):
Stay warm.
Stay cool.
People, you know, they justtalk.
I

SPEAKER_00 (44:30):
think it comes from ignorance, right?
It

SPEAKER_01 (44:32):
sounds good,

SPEAKER_00 (44:33):
right?

SPEAKER_01 (44:34):
It sounds good to virtue signal to say steroids
kill people.
Oh, look at these guys, thesemuscles.

SPEAKER_00 (44:41):
Yeah, it's in the mainstream media everywhere.
That's like a common knowledge.

SPEAKER_01 (44:45):
Yeah, but it's a miseducation of the American
mind, right?
Most things that people aretaught is not factual.
We do not have a benevolentgovernment, right?
If y'all think that's the case,you're wrong, right?
These people are not moving withour best interests at heart.

(45:06):
It's all money, literally.
It's all money, right?
We have a military industrialcomplex, which is bad.
That means it's ideal for us tobe at war or have conflicts
going on all the time.
We have a prison industrialcomplex.
That means it's ideal forinmates to not get
rehabilitated, to keep thatrevolving door, right?

(45:29):
And then you have what's calleda Prussian school system.
Now, if anybody can researchthat, Google that.
This was...
Prussia's model back in theindustrial era, right?
And this was set up to be verysterile, very utilitarian, and

(45:52):
no creativity, no this, wearuniforms, sit in these lines,
30, 40 people, one leader,right?
Raise your hand, go to therestaurant, whatever, teaching
you how to be a good worker.
Because back then that was thevibe, industrial factories, so
on and so forth.
This is a tech age.

(46:12):
Why is that system still inplace?
It's an outdated system thatdoesn't teach people how to
really be smart.
It teaches people to work.

SPEAKER_00 (46:21):
Because it's not beneficial.
It's

SPEAKER_01 (46:22):
not beneficial

SPEAKER_00 (46:23):
to the people.
To the people, not for the

SPEAKER_01 (46:25):
individualities.
Right.
No creativity.
Zero.

SPEAKER_00 (46:29):
So let me ask you this.
Where do you gain yourknowledge?
Because obviously...
Regular folk get the knowledgefrom social media, from the
news, right?
What we see around us.
So what is your source?
Where do you get information?
I know you read a lot of books,but is there any resources you
can share with us?
Where to or which resources touse to educate ourselves?

SPEAKER_01 (46:54):
Me.
Me.
Listen, when I was young, therewas people like me that I was
drawn to.
I'm like, wow, I like whatthey're talking about.
And I tapped in, you know?
So I'm not saying like, yeah,you can say influencer, a
preacher or leader, whatever,they have influence over you.
Yes, I had my people, you know?

(47:16):
And so.
So

SPEAKER_00 (47:19):
who was your mentor in the beginning?
I know you spoke highly of yourmother who introduced you to
books and things like that.
So were there any otherinfluential people in your life
who really?
Outside

SPEAKER_01 (47:29):
of my parents.
Yes.
My spiritual father, his name isLouis Farrakhan.

SPEAKER_00 (47:35):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (47:36):
This is such an intelligent, eloquent, masculine
man.
He's like a leader.
And he taught me, love yourselfand have knowledge of yourself
and learn who you are.
You are special.
You don't grow up with peopletelling you that you're
powerful, you're mighty, you'reintelligent, right?

(47:57):
Especially being a black personin America, especially when I
was growing up.
Look, I went to Catholic school,right?
Think about how oppressive thisis to a black mind.
You go to a school, this is inNew York, so very Gothic
architecture, so scary.
Poor kid, right?
And all of the divine figuresare white.

(48:23):
All of them.
So you're like, where do we comeinto play?
Didn't they give you a bookabout slavery?

SPEAKER_02 (48:28):
It's

SPEAKER_01 (48:29):
like, what?
This sucks.
And you're not treated good,right?
So I had a leader that pulled meout of that.
You understand?
So I'm like, oh, oh, this isbullshit.
Oh, this is my history.
So I learned about myself at avery early age.

(48:49):
And, you know, it set off acascade of like amazing.
I'm amazing about everything.
Everything fascinates me.
I like learning abouteverything.
Right.
I don't have just a subject.
I like everything.

SPEAKER_00 (49:04):
So what was the first thing that your mentor
introduced you to that reallystarted shifting your mindset?

SPEAKER_01 (49:14):
It's not one thing.
And like I say, he's one, but myparents, like my mother, for
instance, Like I was into, whenI was a kid, I was into fighter
jets.
I was into dinosaurs.
I could tell you every dinosaurin detail.
Their names, you know,herbivore, carnivore, omnivore,

(49:35):
right?
I always had these differentinterests.
And then my grandmother wouldtake me to like The museums.
In New York, it's a lot ofculture there.
We went to the science museum.

SPEAKER_00 (49:46):
Is it the planetarium you mentioned?
Went

SPEAKER_01 (49:47):
to the planetarium.
That blew my mind.
And, you know, when I was a kid,we even went down to Florida to
NASA Space Center, to CapeCanaveral.
And this is before the IMAX wasopen to the public.
Because people just know it as amovie theater.
But the IMAX was for flightsimulation.
I got to see that as a kid.
So my mind was just like...

(50:09):
What candy does to a child'smind, so does information and
wisdom.

SPEAKER_00 (50:13):
Yeah, observing.
Everything's so much faster whenyou- But

SPEAKER_01 (50:16):
you got to expose these kids to this stuff.
I was exposed to it, so my brainwas going crazy.
And then I traveled a lot too asa kid because I boxed.
So that got me to travel.
So that opened up my mind to alot of things that a lot of kids
just didn't.
So yeah.
And I'm a weird guy because Iwas- You know, I have siblings,

(50:36):
but I was raised by myself.
So I was like the only kid.
So I just thought, I justthought a lot.
I thought for myself and readand drew and wrote stories and
stuff like that.
So I always had a very, I have avery active brain already,
right?
So me being exposed to thesedifferent things, it just made

(50:56):
me interested.

SPEAKER_00 (50:57):
Which brings me to my next question.
You went through, extremechallenges before, right?
You experienced homelessness andjail.
So what was your first step torebuilding your life from that?
Because I guess that was theturning point that shifted

(51:18):
everything for you.
What was that first step?

SPEAKER_01 (51:21):
Yes, ma'am.
All right.
So just a little backstory.
For a while, I got off my courseand I was, you know, engaging in
illegal activities to makemoney.
Activities that are legal now,but it was illegal back then,
right?
But I also was like fully likewearing that lifestyle, you

(51:45):
know, very authentic at whateverI did.
And there's a dichotomy becauseI was raised good.
I knew better.
So my conscience would always belike right here, like your
grandparents would be sodisappointed at you.
I would hear that all the time.
And so, I could never go so farwith certain things, but I was

(52:06):
still digging myself in adeeper, deeper hole because when
you know better, yourconsequences are worse, right?
So I'm digging myself, diggingmyself, and I'm like, damn, I
got to stop doing this.
So while I was in it, I wasalready trying to figure out an
exodus, but I didn't move fastenough, right?

(52:28):
And it just came in.
came and got me and there's abook that i read when i was
younger called disease right andit broke down what disease mean
dis-ease the removal of comfortof ease right and this book it
was very philosophical but itwas talking about how we will
attract a diseased situation tous to prevent something from

(52:50):
worse from happening like lateron and that's exactly what i did
i i my lifestyle was gonna giveme kilt or get me in a RICO
charge case or something likethat, right?
Because, you know, when you outthere moving in the streets and,
you know, you embodying, I wasjust real.

(53:12):
So I was intelligent so I couldmove right and I was making a
lot of money, but I was down tobe violent too, right?
And that makes other guysuncomfortable and people will
kill you out of fear, right?
So when you lead out as atyrant, Out of fear, you get
killed.
You lead out of love, you getprotected, you know?

(53:34):
And I was leading out of thatfear component.
So I was being a real American,the American way, you know?
So, you know, I embodied it andit was like, I was always
anxious.
I was always stressed.
I was always paranoid.
I didn't trust nobody.

(53:55):
I look at everybody like I'mtrying to figure out who you
are, right?
I'm looking everywhere, right?
My phone rang.
I just answered and just like,just listen.
Like, here's just paranoid,right?
It was street smart.
It was not fun, but it was notfun.
So then when everything came toa crescendo, I was kind of

(54:17):
relieved, even though I had along journey ahead of me.
I'm like, all right, well, thatchapter is done, you know?
And I closed that chapter.
part of that book and burnt it.
And then as I'm moving forward,I'm still not out the clear,
right?
Because now they're trying toput me in prison for a very,

(54:38):
very long time, right?
And just the way my mind worksis like, no, no thanks.
I'm not going to do that.
I don't want to do that.
So I'm trying to go through theprocess to see what we can work
out.
They wasn't being reasonable.
So I'm like, all right.
I gotta do this my own way.
And then I absconded and becamea fugitive.

(55:00):
I ran.
Didn't go far, but I ran.
And then I was really forced tolike rebuild my life, you know,
in a more constructive way witha solid foundation, because I
don't know how this got in myhead, but it was always
something that's like, don't bea loser.

(55:21):
Don't be a loser.
Don't be a loser.
And I had children, so I had toprovide.
So I started rebuilding my lifeand legally, and I was doing
that as a fugitive though.
So I'm doing all the goodthings, but there's an asterisk.

SPEAKER_00 (55:37):
It was like six years, right?
Seven years.
Seven years.
Which is

SPEAKER_01 (55:40):
kind of crazy, right?
So, and then...
Things got so big for me.
They like, what is this guydoing?
He's on social media.
So they came and got me.
And then I'm like, all right,here we go.
Now, another.
elevation of my life.
Now I'm glad I can stop lyingabout my past.

(56:02):
I wasn't really trying to lie topeople, but I was leading them
to think certain things.
Because when you're a fugitive,you're in a new place, you got
to have your story together.
Like, why are you here?
And I never said specificthings, but I made them feel
like this is where I'm comingfrom and why I'm here and so on
and so forth.
But that's still lying.

(56:25):
So I remember, I ain't gotta lieno more, I thought that the day
that they got me.
And then the U.S.
Marshals come when you're afugitive, and that's like the
bad boys.

SPEAKER_00 (56:37):
Wait, were you at home or were you in the gym?
No, I was in the gym.
It was in the gym?
Yeah.
In front of you?
No, it wasn't even a lot ofpeople there.

SPEAKER_01 (56:45):
And he was a gentleman, you know?
He respected me and he told meand, you know, I had to go
through the process, theadjudication process.
And so when you go on a run,whatever you are facing now is
more, is worse.
It's called an aggravatedcircumstance, right?
You made it worse.

(57:06):
So my bond was like way morelike everything.
So got to a position where Ibonded out.
I had the money to get like thebest attorney that you can get.
And I did that.
And This guy, he did his thing.
That is a friend for life now.
I check on him every now andthen.

(57:26):
So we beat it.
And then I really got to befree.
I was free then too, becauselook, I was facing a lot of time
and I had to go for sentencing.
And there was a chance that Iwould get this probation plea
that we accepted or I would getthe presumptive sentence would

(57:48):
have been like 10 or 15 years.
And I was prepared for the 10 or15 years.
That's the only way I could befree, right?
I can't be worried about that.
When I was younger, I wasworried.
That's why I went on the run.
But I got to the point wherelike, all right, no, I'm set up,
right?
The kid's going to be good.
I'm going to see them all thetime.

(58:08):
I'm at my mind right.
Y'all thought Malcolm X wassomething?
Wait till I get out.
Watch the studying and thediscipline I'm going to have in
there.
I was going to make it benefitme, right?
As a

SPEAKER_00 (58:22):
businessman, you are.
You already had a plan for

SPEAKER_01 (58:25):
that situation.

SPEAKER_00 (58:29):
But I can't imagine the change, right?
You're having a comfortablelife, and then you're in a
completely different, oppositeenvironment.
If you

SPEAKER_01 (58:36):
play in dirt, you get dirty.
You cannot...
We cry about it.
It's like, you know, you joinedthis organization.

SPEAKER_00 (58:47):
So how many years were you away?

SPEAKER_01 (58:50):
No years.
No years.
I beat it.

SPEAKER_00 (58:52):
Oh, you beat it?
Yeah.
Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_01 (58:53):
I was there a few months.

SPEAKER_00 (58:54):
A few months.
Oh, gotcha.
Okay.
Well, welcome back.

SPEAKER_01 (58:58):
You wouldn't do it.
I'd

SPEAKER_00 (58:59):
still be there.
I wasn't sure about thetimeline.

UNKNOWN (59:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (59:01):
Yeah, I'd still be here.
But no, I was prepared.
When I went for sentencing, Iwas okay.
I would have been all right withthat.
Because you can't beat me if I'mbummed out.

SPEAKER_00 (59:09):
I can only imagine the sense of freedom, right?
When he was behind you.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (59:14):
But I would have been free if I would have been
incarcerated.
I'd still be free.
You can trap my body.
You can't lock my mind.
No one can trap my mind.
And that's real power is whenyou're free right here.
So whatever happens to you, makeit happen for you.

SPEAKER_00 (59:34):
So what is the first thing you say in your mind to
feel that way?
Because it's easier said thandone.

SPEAKER_01 (59:39):
100%, you're

SPEAKER_00 (59:41):
right.
What is that thing that you tellyourself that gives you that
freedom?
Because it's not easy.

SPEAKER_01 (59:48):
Well, if you say it's not easy, it's not easy.
So I...
I train myself every day to makelife my bitch.
That's what I say, right?
For instance, if I'm working outand I'm going for a heavy lift,
I'm like, it's easy.
There's nothing.
I cite myself.

(01:00:08):
crazy to myself right and i getreal aggressive like on a bench
when i'm rocking i'm like giveme this fucking shit

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:14):
i've seen i've seen some of your older videos where
you were having this huge hammerand smashing on the tire you're
wearing like a gas mask and

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:23):
that was

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:23):
way back yeah i went all the way back i wanted to see
the first videos and thosevideos were really intense i'm
like wow this guy's crazy

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:31):
i have a little crazy yeah but now i listen You
gotta manhandle life or lifewill manhandle you.
That's how I see it.
So what's the first thing onecan do?
Well, first and foremost, let'stry not to put yourself in a
situation like that.

(01:00:52):
Let's try to make good decisionsso you're never in a bad
situation.
Because the bad situation thatpeople find themselves in is
always their fault, always.
And if you don't think so,That's a weak mentality because
you're blaming other people,right?
If you got to blame otherpeople, if anything good happens

(01:01:13):
to you, is it because of them oris it because of you, right?
So I don't blame nobody fornothing, right?
Whatever happens is supposed tohappen and I'm going to make the
best out of it.
And that's just how I see it.
I've trained myself to knowthat.
I don't believe it.
I know that that's reality.

(01:01:33):
Only good things happen to me.
I'm telling you right now, onlygood things happen to me.
You can lay out all of theevents of my life and be like,
oh, what about that?
I'll tell you how that was abeneficial situation to me.
Everything.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:49):
Do you believe it's manifestation?
Nope.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:52):
I don't believe nothing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:53):
Me neither.
I don't believe inmanifestation.
I

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:55):
don't believe anything.
I know what I know.
So

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:01):
let's speak about that.
You are a very wise man, and youuse the wisdom combined with
your life experiences, and youwrote a book, The Divine
Quintessence.
Yes, ma'am.
Can you tell us a little bitmore?
One, what is this book about?
And two, what really inspiredyou and motivated you to write a
book?

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:22):
Yes, ma'am.
I've always wanted to write abook and write books and write.
I write a lot.
I've always been a lot.
At my parents' house, I gotmovie scripts I wrote when I was
a kid.
Nothing happened with it, ofcourse, but

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:36):
I

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:37):
love writing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:38):
I

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:39):
just got a lot to say, and I don't say it all the
time, so I write it.
So I tried writing a book.
It started a long time ago, butI had no discipline with writing
a structured book.
I had so much stuff that Iwrote, but it was like in my
iPhone notes and silly stufflike that.

(01:03:01):
But for some reason, my motherascended in 2023.
And for some reason, I got superdisciplined right then to finish
a book.
And I did that.
So it took me about a year.
Did

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:14):
you set up a timeline for yourself?
I didn't.
That's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:17):
I just really wanted to get it done.
I really wanted to get it done.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:20):
You didn't tell yourself, like, in a month or in
three months.
Nah, nah.
You just knew you have to finishthis book no matter what.
Yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:27):
So, and I did it in a year.
But within that year, it wasn't,like, consistent.
It was, like, two days ofwriting.
And two days is a lot for me,right?
And then maybe nothing for aweek.
You know, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:41):
Intervals.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:44):
Correct.
So...
Yeah, I just got the disciplineto do it when she passed away.
Maybe it was her, like, allright, get this done.
What the book is, the book, thedivine quintessence.
Quintessence means fifthelement, fifth essence.
The quintessential, you everheard that before?
It's like the best of, right?

(01:04:05):
And the fifth element, peopledon't really talk about it, is
the best of the elements.
It's the fabric of the universe.
They used to call it the ether,right?
Now they call it dark matter.
So symbolically, I wanted to usethat for the book because what
the book is, is the best thatsomebody can ingest because it's
confidence.

(01:04:26):
It's like, it's making you, it'ssuggesting that you go inside
and trust yourself and see whoyou are and understand that you
have God in you, that you aredivine because you're taught
that you're not.
You're taught you're not.
You're taught that God is in theclouds and you're not there.

(01:04:48):
And he talked to people a longtime ago in the Bible, but he
don't talk to you.
He presented himself to them,but not you, right?
So this is what the fables thatpeople are taught.
So people have no confidence.
That's why people say man-made,like that's bad, right?
Like we are, what do I mean?

(01:05:09):
You're a man, right?
So, yeah.
So when you're able to step intothat divine acknowledgement, you
live a different type of life.
You have a different air aboutyou, right?
You are looked at as wise.
And thank you for saying thatbecause it is to be divine is to

(01:05:29):
be wise.
So it's not just saying it isdoing it is qualifying yourself
to be wise, right?
Like I tell people all the time,I don't get sick.
Well, I got to do the things tonot get sick.
I got to qualify myself to notget sick.
But that's for everything thatfalls under divine, divinity.
So that's what the book is.
It's like, yo, one thing I'vebeen good at, my professional

(01:05:53):
life, because I started out as apersonal trainer, was helping
people see how strong theyreally were.
Because people just doubtthemselves.
I was like, no, you're going todo it.
I know you can do this.
I'm going to stay here untilyou...
And they'd be like, wow.
So this is just another level ofthat.
intellectually, spiritually,physically too, because we get
into that in the book too,because it's all important.

(01:06:16):
And

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:16):
it sounds very scientific, and you speak so
eloquently, but I'm going toread out one passage, which I
liked, that is very practical.
So in one of the chapters yousaid, do this at once, teach one
lesson you have learned to ayounger man.
Mm-hmm.
Pass down your wisdom.
Read one book this month thatwill sharpen your mind.

(01:06:37):
Knowledge feeds wisdom.
Move with precision, notemotion.
Let every action be intentional.
I love how you also hadpractical advice in the book
that can be applicable ineveryday life.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:50):
Because

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:51):
sometimes I believe if you have a gift, you must
share it.
And I love when you say thatteach one lesson that you have
learned to a younger man.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:01):
Correct.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:02):
What is the last lesson you have taught somebody
recently?

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:09):
How to study.
How I study.
Okay.
So, like, the community that Ihave.
I'm big on studying, so I showthem how I do it.
Because it'll make it kind offun, right?
So, all right, the basic show.
I'm going to ask you, what doesthat mean?

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:27):
What it means, the basic show?
Mm-hmm.
Semantically or?

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:32):
I didn't give any footnotes.
I just said, what does it

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:34):
mean?
It means the basic show, but notordinary people.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:41):
Okay.
All right.
That's it?

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:43):
Well, yeah.
All

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:44):
right.
So what I do is this.
I'll break down every word.
The, basic, and show.
And I'll start out with what themeans.
Right?
And then I'll explain.
Do you know what the means?

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:59):
Tell me.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:00):
No, I'm asking you.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:03):
No.
I know in my sense, knowthyself.
I probably would connect theewith thyself, but I don't think
that I...
It's a

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:11):
definite article, right?
So my thing is this.
Why use a word if you don't knowwhat it really means, right?
So it just gives people thatlike...
that wherewithal to reallymaster information, okay?
Knowledge, they say knowledge ispower, but it's not.

(01:08:33):
It's potential.
Knowledge is power potential,right?
The application of wisdom withthat knowledge brings forth
understanding.
That's powerful.
Knowledge, wisdom,understanding, right?
Because knowledge is just words,just information, okay?
That's a great bit of whatever,but what are you going to do
with it?
That's like me telling you, youshouldn't drink alcohol and you

(01:08:56):
should eat healthy okay but areyou doing that right that's a
very small example simpleexample but it's literally that
the application of knowledge andwisdom is the understanding so
um anyway so

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:09):
what does that mean so how do you let's say if you
take the basic shell how wouldyou dissect it

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:15):
d is the definite article explaining um it is out
of all things being spoke of, ofthat moment, it's the most
important one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:26):
The, I am

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:27):
the, whatever.
So this is the,

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:31):
and then we

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:32):
have to go into basic.
I thought basic meant ordinary,I don't know.
I don't go by what

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:40):
I feel like things.
To me it's more back to thebasics.
I

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:42):
don't even go by to me.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:43):
Oh, I see, okay.
I'd rather

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:44):
go by it.
So if I was to break that down,I would look it up,

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:48):
right?
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:49):
And I wouldn't just look up the definition, but I'd
look up the etymology as well.
And then those two is reallytelling me what it means.
And the same with show.
So matter of fact, my notes inthe book, notes from the author,
is that, is me studying my studytemplate on the divine

(01:10:09):
quintessence.
And it breaks it down.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:12):
Your brain works in a freaky way.
But

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:16):
don't that seem like it should be normal?

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:18):
It does.
It's fascinating.
It's fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:21):
If we're going to use a word, we should be able to
completely break it down.
Understand.
I get it.
Exactly.
But we use words a lot of timesand we don't know what they
mean.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:32):
Well, I guess it also coming...
Do you speak...
Is English your only language oryou speak other languages?
I

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:40):
speak a little Arabic.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:42):
Arabic.
Okay.
So to me, obviously, when youspeak several languages...
every word means somethingdifferent in a different
language.
But I get what you're saying tounderstand the etymology, the
semantics, and also probablywords have certain power that
you use in your vocabulary.
And I think we talked about itearlier, which words to use in

(01:11:03):
your vocabulary and set yourenergy to that frequency, right?
Not to use the words that youdon't...
Don't use the words that youdon't want to live by, right?
Like we spoke about...
like treat me with respect or donot disrespect me, right, in a
sense.
So you have to, like you said,carry yourself already in a way

(01:11:27):
that you are respected bydefault.
I love that.
I still remember that.
I remember that.
I'm going to apply it every daynow.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:36):
Yeah, I think once when you can like, if I can like
open up, like show people, likeopen that door, like you see
that?
like just different ways ofthinking and looking at things
and so on and so forth, if thatdoor can stay pierced open long
enough and people can really seeit, they're going to be hooked,
right?
So, you know, and I'm like, itmakes sense, right?

(01:12:00):
They're like, yeah, like, ofcourse.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:02):
Well, let me ask you then this.
You speak so beautifully andyou're extremely successful, but
there are people who are stuckin the mediocrity, right?
They're stuck and they want to,but they can't.
can't get out so what is youradvice to get out of the matrix
what is the first thing you doto escape the matrix and make
that big change in your life

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:24):
okay what's a matrix

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:27):
to me it's the social conforms that you you
know have to be successful youhave to be you know accepted you
have to you want to have thingsthat you want but you can't you
want to have comfortablelifestyle but There's so many
games you have to play to reallyget there.

(01:12:48):
And a lot of people just stuck.
And I feel, especially in theentertainment industry, fashion
industry, very talented people,but they really cannot get out
of certain lifestyle they're in.
And they cannot really get tothat success level that they
aspire to be, where they aspireto be.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:06):
Okay, so I'm going to bring it back.
What's the matrix?

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:08):
Oh, what's the matrix?

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:10):
So this is what you did.
What?
You said, to me...
And that's the wrong answer,always.
Because I'm gonna explain whythis is important.
All right, part of us havingthis cerebral cortex, this
prefrontal cortex, right?
A lot of responsibility becausewe have, this gives us the

(01:13:30):
ability to have language, tohave a robust and vivid
imagination, to have empathy, todevelop societies, right?
So in that we develop rules.
For instance, a red light, itdoesn't make you stop, but we
agree that we should stop sothey can go and we don't have

(01:13:50):
accidents and die, right?
So we can have order instead ofchaos, right?
So it's the same with words.
We have a definition in thedictionary full of words, so we
should all agree that.
We do agree that that's what thewords mean, but when people say,
well, to me, then you're like,you're just making up something,

(01:14:12):
right?
And that can- I always make upstuff.
Everybody do, right?
Yeah.
But we should be conscious of itbecause when we're not, when
we're all sticking to what itmeans, we have more order, you
know?
And order is just the best casescenario.
So- with a matrix, how do theyescape the matrix?

(01:14:33):
Now, a matrix is a mathematicalsystem, right?
We just use it in colloquially,I can't say that word.
Well, in modern vernacular, weuse it for like a system, right?
And usually it's being used as asystem that's bad for you,
right?
And here's why.

(01:14:55):
They're on point with thatbecause the system, the American
system, is bad for most Americanpeople, right?
It's beneficial to the peoplecreating the system, right?
So how do you escape the system?
Create your own system.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:10):
Create your own system.
That's like being revolutionary.
That's like going against.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:14):
What's wrong with that?
What's wrong with a revolution?
What's wrong with a change?

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:19):
I guess if you accept that path, then you have
to be ready to sacrificeeverything A lot, right?
You're getting out of yourcomfort zone, right?
Being a revolutionary is aproblem.
Best case

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:29):
scenario.
That's the best case scenario.
Your comfort zone is a deathzone.
It's mundane life.
Nothing comes out of that.
It's safe.
Think about this.
I'm going to make this realridiculous.
If you go outside, you get hitby a car, right?
You know you're going to beparalyzed, right?
So just stay inside.
It's better to just stay inside.

(01:15:49):
Don't ever go outside, right?
It's the same thing.
Your comfort zone is a deathtrap.
It's dumb.
It's like, why are you livingbeing safe?

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:59):
So I guess if we kind of put labels on it, you
need to be courageous, getcourage, because the first thing
you need to do to get out ofyour comfort zone, it's not
comfortable, right?
It's not something you would dowith ease.
So be courageous, have no fear,maybe not be afraid to risk.
And then hopefully that will getyou out of the matrix, out of

(01:16:22):
that mediocrity.
Maybe you're not going toachieve your goals, but at least
you might get a few steps closerto your goal.
Is that right?

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:31):
Yeah, but I wouldn't maybe nothing.
I would just make it happen.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:35):
Make it

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:36):
happen.
Because you just said maybe youdon't achieve your goals, but
you're going to.
Because as long as you're in theprocess of making it happen,
it's happening.
Life is not a...
All right, so this is anotherthing that I don't know why
people don't look at life likethis, right?
People look at life as linearonly.
A to B.
Okay, two-dimensional, right?

(01:17:00):
How about quantum fields, right?
This exists.
And you look at all thepossibilities, right?
It's not just, oh, I made it.
What does that mean?
Once you get...
Let's say, let's use getting inshape as an example, right?

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:18):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:19):
I want to be 8% body fat, 200 pounds, whatever it is,
the metric.
Okay, you get there, now what?
You stop?
No.
As you're going along andprogressing, you're successful.
It's happening.
Because guess what?
Because when you get to that onepoint, you can't stop.
Because if you stop, you'regoing to digress.
So it's always a continuousprogression.

(01:17:41):
nonstop motion, right?
Because that's life.
Energy is not created ordestroyed.
It always is.
It just changed forms, right?
Everything that has ever existedin the past still is.
Everything that ever will be isnow.
Different forms.

(01:18:02):
Literally.
Think about the weight of theearth.
The earth weighs six sextilliontons, right?
Y'all can Google this.
Think about how many carsexisted in the early 1900s.
Not a lot, right?
Think about how many now.
A lot, right?
The way the earth does notchange.

(01:18:23):
These materials and these thingsare still here.
They're always here, right?
The weight of the dinosaurs isstill here, right?
We ain't dinosaurs.
So what I'm saying is peoplelook at things in a very...
basic way they got to open theirmind and like look at life for
what it is because life is justis is vivid as wild as it's not

(01:18:43):
safe right it's not safe andthen people i think about the
things that they tetherthemselves to you're not where
you want to be at in life rightyou want to escape this system
of this matrix what do you dowhat do you do well whatever
you're doing stop doing itbecause it's not working it's
that simple right and what isWhat am I talking about?

(01:19:03):
People are chasing pleasureonly.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:06):
They're looking for easy way out, for the pill to
take, for the easy solution.
They don't want to work or thinkabout it or make themselves
uncomfortable to get to thepoint.
So speaking of you, I'm surethere's so many young men aspire
to be like you.
And speaking of your goals, youmay have achieved and be the

(01:19:28):
dream for many.
So being at that point in yourlife, what is that next thing
for you?
You know, you wrote a book, youhave your businesses, you're
successful, you have beautifulfamily, you educate yourself,
you're in a great shape.
Is this, it feels like, okay,what more, what's the next thing
for you?
What is that next thing?
Yes, ma'am,

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:47):
marriage.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:48):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:49):
And, you know, growing my wealth to a degree to
where I could just give it away.
Just give all the money away.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:57):
I love that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:59):
Yo, my family hate when I say that, but I'm so
serious.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:02):
Well, isn't it the beauty of the circle of life?
You can't just hoard it, right?
You have to be able to.
Think about

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:12):
the people that you see.
And people idolize people onsocial media, right?
With the cars, with this.
Y'all ever be like, so?
What is that doing for you?
Nothing.
What good is a man with all themoney in the world if he's not
benefiting people?
Right.
So, yeah, I'm not that guy.

(01:20:33):
You know, I

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:34):
want

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:34):
to die with nothing.
Nothing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:37):
We came with nothing and we'll leave with nothing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:39):
And that's leaving with that's having everything.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:41):
You

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:42):
know, the Egyptians thought that they can take their
wealth with them into theafterlife.
OK.
The tomb raider just said this.
I'll take that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:53):
A little

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:54):
dusty mummy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:55):
That's true.
They

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:56):
even try to take their pets with them.
They're like, what are youdoing?

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:58):
Yeah, forget it.
The cats is in there.
Nowadays, yeah, all you can getaway is experiences, I guess,
and leaving something behind,which is probably legacy, and
you talked about it before.
So let's say 50 years from now,what do you think would be your
legacy?

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:16):
50 years from now, when I'm almost 100?
Yeah.
Oh, I don't know.
It's a lot.
That's a lot of time still.
That's a lot of time still.
But even right now, I mean, Ihave a book out.
And I have more that I want todo.
You know, tons of content thatis there.

(01:21:37):
And hopefully some of the peoplein my community are really
inspired by the things that I'vesaid.
Hopefully I've planted themseeds to where they're going to
be more impactful to me.
And that lives on.
but also my essence living onthrough my children excuse me
that's how we excuse me we haveimmortal life through our

(01:21:59):
progeny or through our works Ifour works were, we're able to
leave things behind and people,you know, can pick it up and
keep running with it.
That's how you live forever.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:10):
I personally don't believe in legacy because if you
think about it, no matter howbig of a pharaoh you were in
Egypt or ancient Greece, yearsfrom now, nobody's going to
remember your name.
Either you're a famous warrioror a soldier, which brought me
to the thoughts, maybe legacy,we overthink legacy.
Maybe legacy supposed to be inthe present moment and living it

(01:22:33):
the best way possible to be agood human being because nobody
really going to care about you,what you've done, or what you've
created, you know, 100, 500years from now.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:44):
That's interesting.
I see it differently.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:46):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:47):
I think people do remember you.

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:49):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:49):
When you are memorable after you have left,
ascended.
I mean, we talk about pharaohsnow.
And also, When you say legacy,I'm talking about wisdom.

(01:23:21):
I'm talking about systems thatwe've put in place for our
people, for our children, forour family, to where they can
have a good life and then makeit bigger, add on to it.
Because my family, just becauseof the way that black people was

(01:23:43):
introduced to this country, Youknow, we don't have a history of
legacy because it was cut offabout a few hundred years ago
and we had to start fresh.
So we start now and it startedwith my grandparents.
They left some seeds to teach myfather to teach me.
Now I'm putting systems inplace, right?
And I'm leaving tangiblesbehind.

(01:24:04):
So I'm the first in the familyto do that, right?
And my son, he's going to be waygreater than me, right?
Because he's a better personthan me already, right?
So he doesn't even realize howincredible.
I admire him.
I do.
I'm so fortunate that that's mykid.
So that's legacy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:27):
I mean, to me, sometimes it feels like you're
feeding your ego as well, right?
Because you're thinking you'recreating something greater,
right, to make yourself feelbetter.
But the way you say it, I seeyour point, right?
It's creating longevity, right?
It's passing your knowledge on.
to the next generation.
I

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:44):
can see how it can look like ego.
And part of me wants to say,what's the big deal with that?
What's so bad about that?
But I can honestly say for me,it's because I love them so
much.
I love my son so much.
I love my children so much andmy family.
It's not my ego.
Maybe it's my ego.
I love you so much that I wantto be the one to do this for

(01:25:05):
you.
But there's nobody else doingit, so I got to do it.
And you got to have it.
So that's love.
Is there some ego in there?
Sure, but I'm all right withthat too.
I don't think ego is necessarilybad.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:19):
I guess it's more coming from, for me personally,
from self-indulgence and a lotof people promote themselves
over the top and it's about me,me, me, me, me, right?
look at me, what I've done,follow me, you know, buy from
me.
It's kind of creates more, youknow, the consumerism part of
it, right?
It's just more of attention thatyou might not want to have.

(01:25:42):
So to me, in a sense, it mightbe more less about like we
talked about giving back.
It's more about what can I getfor myself?
That's how I saw it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:53):
That's how you saw what, though?

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:55):
Well, before I heard your opinion.

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:57):
Oh, you're saying that's how you saw me?
No, I didn't see.
Or legacy in general?

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:01):
Legacy in general, yes.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:05):
I'm sure.
Well, if it's for the persononly, then that's not a legacy.
It's a weird legacy, right?
But I think from my observation,it seems like when people leave
a legacy, it's pretty legit fortheir progenies, for their
offsprings, for their, or justpeople who tapped into them, you

(01:26:25):
know?

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:28):
Which brought me, so do you think you can leave the
legacy if you don't have anoffspring?

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:32):
100%.
Yes.
Yes.
Information, knowledge, wisdom,system.
Childless

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:40):
people.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:40):
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can adopt, right?
But even if you don't want itthat close to you, like let's
say I didn't have kids.

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:48):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:48):
I'm leaving books.
I have a whole blog, which isprobably more stuff than my
book.
So it's always stuff that you'recreating.
It don't even got to be thatbroad.
It could be people that you knowand you interact with.
There's a guy, Brother Muhammad,he passed away last year.
And this dude was the nicestdude I ever met.

(01:27:11):
I am...
a mean guy sometimes, right?
I'm just not

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:15):
always...
You look a little bitintimidating.
I'm not always super friendly,right?

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:18):
And there's times that I, you know, and I carry a
lot on me.
So we go to the gym and I'm likeupset about whatever.
And he's like, what's up, Mike?
I'm like, yeah, man, give me aminute.
Nothing that I can do can makehim like not happy and bubbly.
And he just wears me downwith...
good vibes and then i'm in agood mood because of him right

(01:27:41):
that's he left that's part ofhis legacy and everybody that
knows him knows him to be thatman he is such a positive dude
and there is a lot of value inthat right because i can i can
um accept my shortcomings and menot being super nice is a
shortcoming i i i own that andAnd I want to be nicer.

(01:28:05):
It's

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:05):
just hard.
What do you mean not super nice?
Like, give me an example.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:08):
I'm just not always the nicest person.
That's all.
I'm very straight to the point,dry.
I ignore people sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:15):
Maybe that's more like you're not fake.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:17):
Yeah, but it's still not nice.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:18):
Really?
We

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:19):
don't have to be.
There's a polite way of doingthings sometimes.
Look.
I'm not one to do therapy,right?
But I did sit with a therapistbefore and they were, she was
trying to, oh, trying to likemake me out to be like, I'm
like, nah, I know me, stop,right?
So I'm telling you, I know I'mnot nice sometimes.
So, and I think that that's notgood because people that I know

(01:28:43):
that are really nice, I lovethem.
I'm like, this is an awesomeperson.
Even the people that I think istoo nice to where it's fake,
like I don't like it, butthey're really genuinely like

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:53):
that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:54):
I see it, and then I really love them people.
Like, yeah, I want to be likethat.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:59):
Well, sometimes...
I'm

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:02):
sorry, but

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:03):
just to land that plane,

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:05):
Brother Muhammad, I don't think he had kids, but
that's a part of his legacy thathe left behind.
So I'm always mindful, like, benicer, be cool.
It's okay.
You know what

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:15):
I'm saying?
What I wanted to add, thatsometimes you don't know what's
going on inside the person'smind, because...
You can have the most nicest andsweetest person, but you don't
know what they're going through.
So it's what you're saying.
It's always be mindful as younever know.
what someone with a smile ontheir face today might be going
through right now.

(01:29:35):
That was just recently I saw onthe news and I forgot the name
of the girl.
She was rescuing foxes and thenshe experienced online bullying
and she committed suicidebecause of experiencing online
bullying.
And everybody saw her as a veryoutgoing, sweet, smiley
personality helping the wildanimals and then facing
something like, you know, beingbullied through the internet.

(01:29:58):
She took her own life.
So it's really sad.
So when you say, that you canimpact somebody just with a
smile or being positive, youshould reciprocate that because,
again, nobody knows whatanybody's going through at the
moment.

SPEAKER_02 (01:30:12):
Very

SPEAKER_00 (01:30:12):
true.
Well, to wrap it up, is thereany advice you would like to
give to young men, young womenwho are kind of on the
crossroads of their life andthey want to make the change in
their life but they're sort ofnot sure where should they
start?
What's the first three thingsyou can advise them to do?

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:34):
And that's not one that I wantto rush an answer to.
Take

SPEAKER_00 (01:30:40):
your time.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:41):
But I would say, I would start by praying.
Start with prayer, right?
Start with prayer.
And then from there, meditation,sitting in silence.
And meditation, like the type ofmeditation I do is called
mindfulness meditation, right?

(01:31:02):
And it's just nothing.
You're sitting there and you'renot thinking about nothing.
You find a focal point on thewall or you close your eyes and
you breathe, set a timer, startout for like three to five
minutes.
That's a long time to not donothing.
I can't do that.
I need to practice.
That's why you should.
I need to practice.
That's why you should.
So, and you start doing that.

(01:31:23):
And, you know, how I describethe benefits of it for me is I
have a GPS for my decisionmaking.
I'm never second guessing.
I need to do this.
I need to do that.
Right.
And, you know, we are inundatedwith information at all times.
Phone, people, this, that,whatever.

(01:31:44):
You owe it to yourself to turneverything off sometimes.
Right.
So that alone will give you somuch clarity on how you see
things.
Also, be mindful about how youeat.
Your mental and physical diethas everything to do with your

(01:32:06):
mood, your demeanor, how clearyou think, everything.
And yes, food affects that.
Your brain, people gotta realizethis, the brain is not a big, it
doesn't take up that much realestate.
But it consumes 40% of thecalories that you put in your
body.
So a good chunk, almost half theenergy is being consumed with

(01:32:28):
your brain, right?
So be mindful of the things youput in there because it's
affecting your thinking and yourability to think.
And the problem with a lot ofpeople is they don't think.
They're not thinking.

SPEAKER_00 (01:32:40):
I would think opposite, maybe what you don't
put in your body, because that'sa whole different topic, but you
talked a lot about fasting andstarvation sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:32:50):
That's part of it.
And, you know, try to dedicateone day to a 24-hour fast.
It's not that bad.
It's super nice.
Think about, so we do it onMondays.
So...
The cheat code is to eat earlyon Sunday, your last

SPEAKER_02 (01:33:09):
meal,

SPEAKER_01 (01:33:10):
five o'clock.
So then five o'clock on Monday,you eat.
If you're busy all day Monday,and then you eat at five, you're

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:16):
good.
A lot of in water, nothing?

SPEAKER_01 (01:33:18):
Yeah, water.

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:18):
Oh, you can drink water, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:33:21):
So, yeah, just because the physiological
benefits is voluminous, it's alot, but the psychological
benefits is heavy, is dope,right?
You feel a sense ofaccomplishment, which adds to
your confidence.
um your brain neurogenesisbegins right that happens with

(01:33:41):
meditation as well right youdevelop deeper empathy right um
just so many things it's acascade of positive things when
you meditate when you fast stufflike that so those things right
there oh and movement you don'tgot to be in the gym but just
walk look I walk on averageabout four miles a day before my

(01:34:04):
workout.
Sometimes I get up and I'm justkind of groggy.
My walk, I get like a runner'shigh while I'm walking and it's
low impact on the body.
It's something that you could doevery day.
It's not going to be bad foryour knees or whatever.
Burning calories in your brain,your blood is flowing all

(01:34:26):
throughout your body.
Your brain is working.
So just those little simplethings right there.
Those things right there, thebenefits are so profound.
And it's all free.
You don't have to pay nobodynothing to do that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:39):
So the best things in life are free.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34:41):
Sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:43):
Well, thank you for this interview.
insightful advice.
I'm sure everybody will benefitfrom that.
Thanks

SPEAKER_02 (01:34:50):
for having

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:50):
me.
Thank you for being on The BasicShow.
We had Mike Rashid King.
Yes, ma'am.
One of the most insightfulinterviews.
I made mental notes.
Okay.
Make adjustments in my life forthe better.
Thank you for this conversation.
Yes, ma'am.
And I wish you all the very bestin your future endeavors.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you.

UNKNOWN (01:35:11):
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