March 27, 2025 • 43 mins
Katherine Martín-Fisher welcomes Jennifer Larsh to discuss her personal and professional journey, focusing on the role of nutritional microscopy in health. Jennifer explains the importance of cellular nutrition and health assessment, comparing healthy and unhealthy cells. They explore how water quality affects cellular health and the benefits of environmental and dietary changes. Jennifer shares client success stories and personal health challenges, emphasizing the power of small daily changes for improved health. The episode includes ways to connect with Jennifer, her final thoughts and advice, and Katherine's closing gratitude and call to action. A teaser for the upcoming episode wraps up the discussion.
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I am Catherine Martin Fisher, and I helpbusiness owners who have lost their vision
because they're struggling with cash flow,sales, marketing, which also affects their
company culture, by showing them to implementproven systems that increase their revenue by
30% in ninety days, and this allowing them toreignite the passion and that big dream that
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they started with.
So the reason that I started this podcast wasto celebrate businesses who have overcome
adversity and have come out on the other sideof it.
And I want you to know that you are not alone.
Good afternoon.
This is Catherine, your host with BeyondBusiness podcast, and I am just excited to have
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Jennifer Larsh with us here today.
So for the last twenty years, Jen's passion hasbeen sales, marketing, and leadership
development.
Her experience in physician practice marketing,pharmaceutical sales, and direct sales
leadership has led her to question the deeperroot cause of disease.
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So I this is a conversation that is just sonear and dear to my heart.
I love talking about some of the things that weneed to just know about disease, how it starts,
what it you know, just what happens on acellular level.
And I know that you have so many answers andand great tips to share with us, Jen Jennifer.
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So thank you.
Thank you so much for having me, Catherine.
I'm honored.
Really grateful to be here.
So, Jennifer, I would love for you to sharewith our audience how so I find it interesting
because you were in pharmaceutical sales,you've done all of these other things, but
you're now in a place where there had to havebeen something, some reason why you decided to
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dive deep and find out more about how it isthat disease even occurs in the body.
So let's talk a little bit about that.
Okay.
Awesome.
Yes, Catherine.
As you said, there there is, a couple littledefining moments in my life that actually led
me to make those deeper questions and reallywant to search for answers.
And it has to do with family members.
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My dad, was diagnosed with cancer in, 2016,and, of course, that was a huge shock to the
family.
No no one no one ever expects to to get that toget that diagnosis and call, even though,
unfortunately, it's very common these days.
And so that that is that was sort of the firstpiece of the puzzle where, you know, we did
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traditional, you know, therapies and and andand we went the route that most people go.
And after that, my dad still had cancer.
And so, you know, he was we were told evengoing to a second opinion, We were told that he
was going to, have to have, you know, a asurgery to move his bladder so that he could
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basically, you know, be cancer free.
And I you know, of course, I'm supporting mydad in every decision that he makes, but I just
felt I felt that there was something, like,intuitively that felt wrong about it.
And so I had asked him if he would be willingto work with a nutritionist.
I took him up to Staten Island to try to see ifwe could help boost his immune system.
I mean, again, I wasn't really I was inwellness a little bit, but I was I didn't have
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enough knowledge to to and this was my father.
You know what I mean?
I wanna be there as a support system.
I wanted to get really, really good, experienceand knowledge, from somebody who, you know, was
trained.
And so, we did that.
And then through through through that,experience, he ended up, she said, hey.
Absolutely.
I can help your father, but, you know, if youreally wanna know what your dad needs at the
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cellular level because, again, cancer cells,right, they're cells.
They're cells that have gone off their off thetracks and become pathogenic to us.
She She said, if you really wanna understandyour dad's cellular health, you should take him
to a woman who does this thing calledmicroscopy.
It's nutritional microscopy.
Then you can put together we can put a really,really specific plan for your father to help
his cells get healthy.
And I thought, well, that sounds amazing.
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Why haven't I ever heard of this before?
Like, that makes so much sense to me.
Right?
Like, you've got cancer cells, so the cells arenot working right.
How do we get, you know, the rest of the cellsbetter and healthy?
And so I took him to that that, lady, and Ilearned a lot, in that process.
And ended up, having my dad work with she's shereferred him to another, physician, and my dad
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worked with that woman.
And long story short, you know, my dad ended upbecoming cancer free.
And I was part of that process of watching himdo all the things and, you know, really
changing his diet significantly, reallyfocusing on what his body needed at the
cellular level, along with some other thingsthat the physician had, prescribed.
And it was it was mind blowing.
And yet it it intuitively, I felt, you know,that that that that was something that we were
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supposed to do, that our body was supposed tohave that ability.
And when I was selling pharmaceutical drugs,the ones I sold in particular, obviously,
there's place for medicine, but they were alllifestyle medication.
So they were things that people we know nowreally are having to do with lifestyle.
So it was, like, interesting.
You know what I mean?
To go from that to to then understanding, wow.
The body really can heal, but you have to bevery specific and and give it what it's asking
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for.
So that's really why, you know, I do what I do.
And then additionally, I I I ended up losing mymom in 2020.
And so that that part was hard because I tookher to a lot of specialists for a lot of
different things that didn't seem related atall.
But now looking back and understanding anddoing the work I do now and the training I've
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had and the doctors that I work with now, Iactually finally understand that a lot of the
all the things that she that was going on, theywere all part of one particular problem, and
that had to do with her cellular function.
And, you know, she I I lost her before, youknow, any of us could figure it out.
And so I always say, like, when I came backinto coaching, I took a year off after my mom
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died.
When I came back into coaching, I said, I'mgonna I'm gonna do something that actually
helps people take the guesswork out.
I said, because from a nutritional standpoint,the body can heal.
And so I just wanna be able to give more peopletime with people that they love.
So that's sort of the way I honor my mom.
I love that you're sharing that and you'resharing your heart because, you know, I, I lost
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my mom in 2022 and seeing every specialist thatyou could take them to over and over.
And and my mom was very much about nutrient youknow, like, the she was all about, alternative,
like, always looking for a cure alternativelyversus medically.
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And and this is not to say that there like yousaid, there is medical it's needed.
You have to have that.
You have to have those diagnosis yet.
But sometimes we need to look at the body as awhole, and sometimes we like, I love that you
use the word intuitively because sometimes weintuitively know that there's something more.
There's a reason why we have this disease thathas been created in the body and and it's at
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the cellular level.
So what would you just explain to our audiencewhen you say the cellular, not everybody
understands that.
So let's let's just dive deep into that.
What do you mean by the cellular level, and andhow do you how do you find out how what it is
that a person needs at that level?
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That's great.
So yeah.
So how I help a person understand what is atthe cellular level.
So I call it cellular nutrition.
Right?
So what does what does your individual bodyneed at the cellular level?
I use three parts of an assessment.
So people come into my office.
I have a a questionnaire that they, you know,obviously have prior.
They bring that in.
I always ask them to bring any other thingsthat are relevant, you know, other types of,
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medical doctors, holistic practitioners, youknow, chiropractors, pretty much anything
because I try to gather as much information aspossible so that, you know, some of that can
play into what we find when we do theassessment.
They come into the office and we use like Isaid so the nutrition microscopy is, I start
with a metabolic profile where I'm looking athow their body is is basically showing up in a
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metabolic way.
And and and, you know, we use, urine andsaliva, and we use, you know, blood pressure
readings.
We use a bunch of different things.
They also, you know, as prep preparation, I wastalking about them being willing to do a blood
sugar, a fasting blood sugar.
And most people have already done that beforeor if they're like, yeah.
Absolutely.
No problem.
I'll do a finger prick.
They they know what it is.
Most people have done a glucose video onthemselves.
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So as part of that process, after they do that,we actually end up taking, a little bit of the
blood, you know, after they do the glucose,and, we just put it right on the microscope
side.
So, you know, there's nothing.
There's you know, we don't do any blood draws.
Like I said, they just are willing to do thatto be able to see what's actually happening
under this high powered microscope.
And it's kind of fun because there's no youknow?
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It just is mind blowing when you see a person,and I put it up on the screen because I have a
big I have a TV screen, and so it goes frommicroscope to TV screen.
And they're like, oh my god.
Wait.
Is that, like, what are what is that?
That's my blood.
And there's nothing it literally goes from,like, their finger to this microscope slide to
there.
So it's there's nothing in between.
Whatever we see is what it is.
I always say the blood doesn't lie.
Right?
So whatever we see, that's actually happeningright now in their body.
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It's not being sent out.
It's not you know, it's just very interesting.
There's no reagents used, and it's justbeautiful.
It's this most it's a beautiful thing to seeour life force.
That's why that's why I need my my businesslife force, because there's an energetic of our
blood.
And we're able to, you know, look and see.
Again, the people who've been trained asmicroscopists, we're we're able to understand
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different things that we can see that maybeshouldn't be there or maybe the cells have
changed because the environment that they'reliving in is not as healthy as it should be.
Right?
Like in my dad's case, it had gone one way, butthere's other things that can happen.
Sometimes people are low in vitamin b twelveor, you know, folate or things like that.
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So we do that part.
We also do another layer, which is more likethe oxidative stress on the body, like how much
free radical damage has been occurring in theirbody and also for how long.
And so, again, we're able to, you know, takenote of that.
And then when I put all three of those piecestogether, so the metabolic piece where we're
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looking at the chemistry, the live where we'reactually seeing, like, what's happening right
now, you know, sitting there, and then also theoxidative like, how much oxidative stress has
happened to their body up until this point.
We're able to put together, a protocol, and,like, these are the things that are going on.
This is, like, the top priorities that we'dlike to look at fixing from a nutritional
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standpoint.
And then the nutrition is basically everythingfrom, you know, different kinds of foods to
when you're eating foods to how you're eatingfood to so I talk about cellular nutrition as
sunlight.
That is actually nutrition to our body.
Not not everyone understands that, but itactually is nutrition.
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Like, it actually feeds our body when we getsunlight, especially from a hormone standpoint.
It's movement.
It's breathing.
It's actually protecting yourself from there'sa lot of negative EMFs or there's a lot of
negative energies.
There's a lot of negative blue light.
So it's it's everything.
There's not just one thing, but what we do is,like I said, having those three pieces of the
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assessment helps us to really understand wheretheir cellular health is right now and the
protocols based on how to get that better, howto heal it.
And then we we we assess that too.
We don't just go, okay.
Let's let's let's do this, and then you'regood.
I work with them closely over sixteen weeks,and we do assessments along the way.
So we can actually see I mean, most people, bythe time they get to the second assessment,
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they're feeling better.
But to be able to see that internally theircellular function is changing and it's going in
a better direction is really huge for people,you know, because sometimes, you know, it's
hard to make changes.
Right?
Not everyone loves to make changes.
But when you can see that the work you'reputting in is actually doing something at that
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level and, I mean, I try to educate people thatcells are the building blocks of everything.
So when you can help them start to heal, you'regonna see healing in other aspects of your of
your organs or organ systems.
So, yeah, it's it's that's sort of the deepdive of, like, how we put together a particular
cellular health protocol for somebody.
It's based on their own thing.
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And I'm ahead.
Well, I love that you you're able to put thison a screen pretty much immediately and show
them.
So give us an example of what that would looklike, a healthy cell versus a not so healthy
cell and how you would be able to tell.
So, yeah, I have a really cool, slide that Iuse in my use in my presentations where it
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shows, you know, basically the a small snapshotof of the picture of of of your blood cells,
and the red blood cells are usually, you know,pretty round and uniform in size.
And then there's, you know, white blood cells.
If you can see them, sometimes what happens isa lot of times when people are cellular
dehydrated, and that can be not just water,like, meaning that they're not drinking enough,
like like, drinking my water.
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There's there can be cellular dehydration thatoccurs for other reasons, not just because
they're not getting enough water.
But if if cellular dehydration if you're seeingthat in a sample, what's gonna happen is all
the blood cells are congested.
We call it rouleaux, which is where they looklike stacked coins or what the next, like, sort
of the the, the next thing after that, which ispretty bad is when it's called aggregation.
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So they're all stuck together.
So, I mean, Catherine, you are, you know, anintelligent woman.
If you think about red blood cells and and howthey're supposed to work throughout the body
and they're supposed to go in and out ofdifferent, like, veins and capillaries, they
need to get oxygen right into the into thecells.
So they have to uptake oxygen, and they have todown regulate toxins.
If they're all stuck together, how effectivelyor efficiently can that happen?
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Right.
Not at all.
No.
Not at all.
There's no flow.
Very, very, very, very slowly and and and andeffectively.
And so I see that a lot because, you know, andthere's many different things that could be
causing that, which is why doing the otherpieces of the assessment helped me to hone in
really why is that happening?
Is it that they're just really dehydrated?
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Is there a digestive issue?
Are they really deficient in a bunch ofnutrients and minerals?
And so they just you know?
So, again, doing a lot of the pieces togetherhelps me to formulate a pretty good plan and
protocol.
And then, again, we assess.
We assess how that protocol is working.
If we need to change something, we changesomething.
Something.
We're not just gonna sit back and say, okay.
Good luck.
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So I wanna
I want our audience to understand.
Once you have assessed a person, what are someof the things that might be changes that they
would have to make in order for you when you goback to do an assessment again for their for
you to be able to see a considerabledifference.
Okay.
Yeah.
So some of the different things that I couldpotentially have a client use, like, for
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instance, if someone had that cellularaggregation
Mhmm.
Is that you know, I always talk about waterfirst because 70% of us were were water.
Right?
So that's an important thing.
But it's not just are you drinking enoughwater.
It's what kind of water are you drinking?
Are you drinking water that is not, that hasextra things in it that are they're cellular
toxins.
Right?
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Not not you're looking at so not everyonerealizes that they could be drinking a lot of
water, but if they're drinking a lot of waterthat has toxins that are putting an overload
right?
Remember we talked about, oxidative stress.
So if too many free radicals are coming inbecause you're drinking chugging water all day,
that's just causing more dysfunction at that atthat cellular level.
So we talk about water.
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It's really it's one of the number one things Iask them about.
What kind of water are you drinking?
Obviously, I'm quantifying how much are theydrinking if it's good water that they're
drinking.
A lot of people aren't drinking the best water.
Consider to be good water?
I I do wanna interject that.
So what I consider to be good water is, one ofthe things I learned when my dad had cancer was
she said about having a, zero gravity filter orsomething that's taking all the toxins out.
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So so I recommend a zero gravity filter.
I, myself, at my house has a has a reverseosmosis filter.
We've had it for six years, seven years sincebefore my daughter was born.
And so that takes out everything, like,everything.
All the everything bad that you don't want inyour water, and it actually takes even good
minerals out.
So you have to actually add minerals back in,like, you know, separately because you still
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need the right kind of minerals, but it itremoves everything.
So the zero gravity filter is similar in that.
It's just not an under the sink.
You know, usually, the RO machines are $3 or 4you know, they're they're pretty pricey, and
they stay in the house or, you know, attachedto your water system.
Whereas the the the ones that I recommend arethings that you can take with you if you move.
We have one at our like, at at we have, like, alittle property, so we have one there.
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So it's it's something that will it's, again,removing all the toxins, but you're still gonna
have to put in some of the, good minerals thatyou need.
They're trace minerals.
So there's these little trace mineral dropsthat I recommend that I that we get off of
Amazon.
But that's important because like I said, whenyou're trying to help someone reduce an
inflammatory load on their system and reduceoxidative stress on their system, you have to
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not keep adding in daily doses of water thathave things that you don't want
in there.
So if you're a, let's just say somebody in ouraudience that lives near a lot of farmland, and
would you say that and they've not tested theirwater.
Would you say that that might be one of thefirst places that they should look?
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That one of the first things they should maybelook into if they find that they have lots of
inflammation and for some some challenges thatthey're they might be going through health
wise?
Yes.
I do think that's like I said, it's reallyimportant because we do need to have a lot of
water.
We need to, you know, and I also talk to themwhen you have one of these filters, cooking
with it, you know, putting it in your fridge ifyou wanna have, you know, colder water.
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Like, it's important because you're you'reconsuming water all day.
I want people to consume water.
You know?
And depending on how active you are, you mightneed a lot more water, but it has to be good
water.
Because like I said, the whole point is tryingto reduce the inflammation load by reducing
extra toxins that could be coming into oursystem.
So water is important.
You know?
Obviously, air is important.
There's so many different things, but that's athat's one of the things I start with because
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I'm trying to understand how do we removethings from our environment that we have
control over.
We can't always control other things.
Like, obviously, if there's stuff in toxins in,you know, the air that we're breathing outside,
whatever, we can't control that, but we cancontrol what kind of water we're putting in to
our bodies.
Okay.
Alright.
Great.
And so once you're working with someone, do youhelp them with, like, how they're eating and,
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you know, things that they could change?
Like, does the testing that you do help you toidentify things that could be harmful that they
might be in you know, taking in?
Yes.
Absolutely.
And it's it's it's very interesting, you know,when you when you say, like, okay.
So, Jen, what kind of things are you when youtest that you can help them?
Maybe they're doing, like, everything wrong orthey think they're doing things right.
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And and, honestly, that's sort of how how mystory with trying to always look at at, you
know, how do I get healthy?
How to get healthy?
I was doing well, anyway, I was doing a lot ofdifferent things that were supposed to be
healthy, like working out all the time andeating, you know, organic grilled chicken
breasts and avocados and things.
But some of the foods that I was eating sosometimes people eat foods that are healthy,
like, they're deemed healthy, they'resuperfoods.
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But when they have a lot of inflammation, ifyou're trying to bring that down, you sometimes
have to remove things that are normally healthyfoods.
But if they're maybe not healthy for your bodyright now, you have to remove them.
And I always tell people if you really lovesomething, I'm not saying you have to remove
forever.
So our goal is to help your body heal so it canwork more optimally so that you can, you know,
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once in a while eat things that maybe are notnecessarily as great for you, but your body
knows how to handle it because it doesn't itthe toxic overload is is so much lessened that
one one offs here and there don't, you know,don't really maybe cause as much issues.
And I literally just had this conversation thismorning with a client, and they were saying
once a month, they come to they they they go toa certain area and they have this little lunch.
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And she was like, all the things on there are,like, stuff I should not be eating.
I said, you know what?
I think it's gonna be fine if one if today, aspart of your pilgrimage to doing the things you
do, that you have that sandwich with all thethings that you're not supposed to have on it
and your chips.
I said, because guess what?
Number one, we've been working together for acouple weeks.
I said, you've been doing so much to help bringthat toxic lowdown.
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I said, but the other thing too, there is thatthing about living.
You know?
Like, I don't want my people we have to dothings that obviously are aligning with helping
to build up our health on the inside, But italso shouldn't be that if that's something she
really enjoys once a month and she's doing allthis other stuff all the time to help her heal,
I said, don't even stress about it.
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I said the stress will be more of a issue thanjust eating it and enjoying it.
So, yeah, to, you know, to answer yourquestion, like, a lot of times people don't
always know until we sit down, and then they'relike, oh my gosh.
Like, I I just thought that that was healthybecause everyone says, like, that's a
superfood.
And I'm like, yeah.
Maybe a superfood and maybe for people who havegreat digestion, maybe it maybe it's great.
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I said, but if you don't, it's causing rightnow in your particular system more of an
inflammatory response than good.
So let's avoid that right now and try to workon healing the underlying, you know, digestive
insufficiency.
And then later on, add it back in here andthere to see how your body people start to
become very in tune to their bodies whenthey're working with me.
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It's pretty awesome to hear as we go through ithow in tune they become because they're
actually listening and seeing what the symptomsare because our body will tell us.
It really, really will.
And, you know, I love that you help peoplebecome much more aware and in tune with their
body because I think so many times we are justkinda going through the motions in life and
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you're super, super busy and you're not reallyyou're not really asking yourself questions as
to, you know, what is good for you.
You know, you think you're doing all the rightthings, but like you say, something that might
be considered a superfood could actually besomething that at the present moment in time,
based on where your cellular level is, could becausing you some challenges.
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So I like that you're able to help peoplenavigate through that period of time because
everything sometimes it's just a season.
Right?
And as you make those adjustments, then therecould be, you know, that it's just being the
season of helping the body to reset itself.
Yes.
And, so, alright, let's talk a little bitabout, a particular success story that you may
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have had or or or somebody who's just startedworking with you and just has this, like, wow
moment.
You know?
Can you can you think of anyone who would haveand would do not give me any late
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Well, I mean, there's definitely a dump a bunchof success stories linked to what I do.
But I'm thinking particularly of a client who,you know, we started working together.
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We we it was, you know, the the the firstassessment was there was some pretty serious
things that we were trying to work on from anutrition standpoint.
And she was gonna be going away or something.
So we had, like, three weeks, then she wasgonna wait for two weeks.
And then so I was like, well, let's just getstarted, and then, you know, you'll have your
vacation, whatever.
And I remember, like, the week before she wasleaving, so it was, like, the third week we
were working together, and she said, you know,I just I don't know if I can do this.
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Like, I just don't know if I can do this.
And I literally as I looked at her, I said, youalready are doing it.
You made a choice.
You made a decision.
You showed up, and you're doing the work.
And I said, and you know what?
I guarantee you, you're gonna have a bettertrip than you probably thought you were going
to because you're gonna be so much more aware,and you're not gonna be stressing about what
you're gonna, like, you know, gaining weight orall I said, you know, because people go away on
these trips.
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I said, you're gonna have a great time becauseyou already are aware of different things.
I said, and and you're gonna come back, andyou're gonna actually feel better.
And and when we come back in to do the the nextassessment, I said things already have shifted
for you.
And sure enough, they absolutely did.
And I remember her going to the net, and shegoes, I really didn't think I could do this,
but it actually was everything you said, Jen.
Like, you were already teaching me how to bemore aware of how foods are affecting me,
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making better choices knowing that certainthings don't make me feel as good, and I really
enjoyed my trip that much more.
And even if I ate something that, you know, Iknew might not be as as, beneficial to, like,
my overall, well-being, she said because Ididn't stress about it, I and I and it's like I
knew that I was already on the right track.
She said I really had a great time enjoyingthat two weeks away.
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And so, you know, again, sometimes people justdon't it's almost like they don't believe in
themselves, but that's part of why I love whatI do is because I my whole point is not just to
show you what's going on, but to empower youthat you have the ability to heal and you can
make little tiny, like, little changes.
But it's the consistency of making little tinychanges and following what your body's telling
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you to have huge results.
And her, I mean, her results when we did thefinal assessment were actually almost
astounding.
Like, I I was I always get such great progress,but it was probably one of the best progresses
that we'd ever had from a very, very, verylike, you know, there was a lot going on in
that first one.
And Mhmm.
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It was just amazing to see her feel her ownpower again and feel that she actually had
control to be able to do this.
And that to me is that's everything.
That is so oh my goodness.
I love I love these kind of conversations.
Give me just you know, I I do wanna talk alittle bit about, your dad and how that
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unfolded because that you know, so many timesyou get a diagnosis and you go into fear.
Right?
Because that's a pretty big word.
The c word is a really big word.
And, again, you know, we're not doctors.
We're not like I'm not a doctor.
I'm not.
So I the advice that is given here is this isall everybody has their own choices to make,
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and I love that we're able to make thosechoices of really looking at our body and
looking at it on that cellular level.
But while he was navigating through this,they're like, did you still went to the
doctors, you still went and got, you know,whatever scans or things?
Because you have to know what's going on withthe body, right, at all levels.
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Mhmm.
So what did that look like, and and how did howwas he because sometimes, you know, a loved one
could want something for you, but then how didhe navigate through that to be able to to be
aware, but also to want to, you know, look athis body in that manner.
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That's a great question of, you know, how didthat process look like.
And, again, like you said, I'm not a doctor.
I don't diagnose anything.
I don't treat anything.
I don't prevent anything.
In fact, I work with functional medicinedoctors.
I actually refer clients all the time todoctors that I know and trust that are also
aligned with, like, how do we look at rootcauses, how do we look at healing the body
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versus just managing things.
And so, that's why I love the doctors that I amyou know, that I refer to and because, again, I
stay in my lane with nutrition.
But as as you were asking, when we took my dadup there to New York to the nutritionist, you
know, right after that is when she said youshould see this person who does the microscopy
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so we really can put together, a really goodprotocol to help build your immune system up.
And at the time, my dad had already scheduledhis surgery to have the removal done.
So that was so, like, we had, like, I think,like, six or eight weeks before that happened.
So we were like, okay.
We have a short period of time to really, buildup the immune system so that we can have the
best outcomes.
Like, it was all already set to go.
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But I so I'm a I'm a believer.
I I I believe that, you know, that, again, godput us here, and he gave us these amazing
bodies, and he also gave reason to heal us.
So halfway through that process, the thesurgery got canceled and rescheduled because of
I think it was a higher power.
But bottom line is I believe that God wasorchestrating things behind the scenes.
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So halfway through, the surgery got canceledand then rescheduled.
So we had a little bit couple more weeks beforethat actually happened.
And he started working with that physician,again, a a a physician, not not around here.
And he didn't get any scans or anything becauseit was such a short period of time.
It wasn't like they were gonna do anything.
They knew that the surgery was gonna happen.
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It's that when they went in to do the biopsy afew days before the actual surgery, the
oncology urologist called us and said, Greg,we're canceling the surgery.
And we were like, oh, no.
Are you going out of the country again?
Because that's what happened the first time.
And he's like, no.
We don't have any cancer cells.
And we were like, wait.
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What?
I mean, it was we weren't none of us wereexpecting what happened with my dad to happen.
We just knew that we were on a good track forhelping him be healthier and for helping his
immune system because, you know, it wasobviously damaged by the the chemo treatments,
all the things he'd done before.
So we were just really trying to help buildrebuild him back.
So it was very shocking for that surgeon tosay, you know, we're gonna see you in three
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months and we're gonna do another biopsy scanbecause maybe, like, maybe this is just a
fluke.
But at that point, I believed that my dad hadbeen healed.
I believe that God had put different people inplace for that time and for that purpose.
And for whatever reason, he felt that my dadwas not going to have that surgery.
And that was, what, seven, eight years ago?
Eight years ago?
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So, yeah.
So my dad continued to, you know, again, workclosely with those doctors and get his his, you
know, when he went in for the scan down in JohnHopkins.
He was doing everything he was supposed to doon that end.
He was just also doing nutritional, and he wasexcited about it because he felt better.
He started to feel better.
Like, he had a lot of side effects from the thethe three months of chemo.
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So he started to feel better even in thosecouple weeks.
So it it made him feel good that he was doingsomething good for his body.
That's excellent.
You really help to get people to be, you know,not just aware, but on then by, you know, by
them doing some of those changes that you'reasking them to do and really working alongside
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with them, you are empowering them.
And that's beautiful because that's what peopleneed sometimes.
You need that purse that cheerleader that cansay, hey.
You can do this.
You can do this.
And and in the end, they wind up feelingbetter.
So thank you so much for all that you do toserve because it really is you know, I love in
the beginning when you said that you wanna givepeople more time and memories with their
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family.
And, you know, and that's important because somany times we're just not aware that we
actually can take charge of our own lives andour own health and be more responsible about
that.
So thank you.
Now, Jennifer, I want you to share, is thereanything that people could do that could be a a
takeaway that they take with them and say, whatcan I do to make a small change that could make
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a big difference in my life each day?
Okay.
So there's so many of them, but I'll just do,like, one of my number one things.
I think the sun is a total gift from god forhealing.
And the more that I research and the more that,you know, I'm learning because it's starting to
really become out there.
There's a lot more, studies and a lot moreproof showing that the sun truly is healing.
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There is it actually when you see the sun inthe morning within the first ninety minutes.
So, obviously, that's gonna change throughoutthe seasons.
Right?
It's gonna also change from, like, where youlive if you live close to the Equator.
But rule of thumb is I tell my clients and thisis something so, obviously, my protocols are
specific to different individuals.
But one thing that never changes because we'reall human beings, we all need the sun.
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So one thing that always is the same in everyprotocol is that people get outside for five to
ten minutes every morning within the firstninety minutes.
That's that's it.
And they don't stare at the sun.
It could be winter.
It could be raining.
They could just go out on a porch, you know,that's covered.
And they can be bundled up if it's snowing,but, like, just that five to ten minutes
consistently can help to set off a cascade ofhormones in their body that they need to be
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able to for their body to function moreproperly throughout the rest of the day.
So it, you know, it it doesn't sound like much,but, like, putting it in there as a routine is
just the big key.
Right?
And that's why, like I said, I work with peopleclosely because I help to make that a habit.
And I'd rather someone it's not about going outfor an hour on a Saturday morning.
It's about going out five to ten minutes everysingle day.
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It's that consistency of of basically syncingyour your body up to the circadian rhythm of
the of the universe of us of the sun.
And, you just start to feel better.
Like, you will start to see that you wanna goto bed more at the same time.
You wake up at the same time because your bodyis syncing up, and that is at a cellular level.
That literally is at a cellular level.
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So it makes a difference doing somethingconsistently versus doing it for a long period
on one particular day.
Correct.
Because our body needs to see that every day.
So standing outside for an hour, you know, on aSaturday, if you're just hanging out on a
Saturday, is it's good.
Don't get me wrong.
Of course, I'm gonna I'd be happy to have yououtside on a Saturday.
But if you're doing the five to ten minutesevery single morning consistently, week after
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week after week, that's where the that's whereyour body can actually sync up, and your
circadian rhythms can actually start to to beto, like I said, be more whole, right, and not
not fragmented.
A lot of us don't have good sleeping patterns.
We don't have good but our melatonin is notit's not gonna come out the way it needs to if
you're not getting that morning sun.
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It's it's just it it messes up the whole schemeof how our bodies hormonally are are are
supposed to work throughout the day.
Wow.
So then somebody who is not who's notscheduled, who's not a scheduled person, who
doesn't, like, at the same time get up everyday as the same time go to sleep every day, you
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know, that can mess up your your circadianrhythm.
Circadian rhythm's correct.
Yes.
And and, a %, we are supposed to be on a a flowof a twenty four hour that, like, our bodies
have a a switch that goes, you know, 24 is,like, twelve hours on, one way, twelve hours.
And so the hormones that are released and theway in which they're released, that cascade
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starts in the morning.
And that's why, like I say, ninety minutesbecause it is it you know, it can be crazy.
You know?
Again, time of seasons, you know, it might bedifferent in the summer where you can get up at
05:30 when the sun comes up and hang out for anhour or two before your kids wake up versus,
like, the school year, you know, it you have tochange some things around.
Now you may have to still wake up at 05:30, andprotect yourself with some blue blocking
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glasses, you know, some some amber blueblocking glasses.
And then at 07:10, right before you take yourkid to the school bus, walk outside for ten
minutes, you know what I mean, and have yourcoffee and then take your kid to school.
So it does take a little bit of playing around.
But, again, it's not when you think about thewhole scheme of your life, like, out of twenty
four hours, five to ten minutes a day to helpyour body work better so that you could have
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better health long term and be at all the kids'games and maybe be at your grandkids' games.
You know what I mean?
Like, I try to help people understand, like,what you're doing is it's it's it's building,
like, a cellular health well for you that youcan continue to have have the the life you want
and the and the longevity, the quality of lifethat you want for these couple little things
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that you're doing that really are not if youjust put them into your habits and just make
them part of who you are, that's, like, that'swhy I work with people for four months because
my whole goal is, like, educate them, empowerthem, and help them to start making those
decisions that after the time they that's justwho they are.
They just know that they're waking up, andsometime in those first ninety minutes, they're
gonna get a little bit of sun.
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Got it.
Wow.
This is this is really good.
So, Jennifer, I could talk to you all day long.
So what I do I would I would love for ouraudience to know, like, there is something that
resonated with me.
I just love this Jennifer lady, and I want towork with her and or I know somebody who really
needs her help.
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So how would they find you?
What would they what would be the first way inwhich that, you know, they would be able to get
in touch with you to be able to start workingwith you?
So even just ask questions.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I always set up a discovery call.
I really like to understand a little bit abouta person, like, what they want, maybe what
they've done in the past, you know, help themunderstand really what I do.
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I like to do a Zoom so they can see what I'myou know, I show them pictures, which is really
fun.
And, they can actually go right to my website,which is ww.lifeforceenergetics.com.
And it's so it's life and so e and then anothere.
So it kind of it's like two e's right next toeach other.
So sometimes people mess that up, but it's lifeforce energetics, also that with an x at the
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end, I x.
And so they can just go on there.
There is a form that says contact.
They also have my, my phone number on there.
And so, you know, I'm happy if someone calls meor, like I said, for them to do the contact
form, it'll come right to my email, and then Ican give them a call and set that that
discovery call up so I can understand, youknow, what it is that they're that they would
like to try to find out and uncover about them.
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And so what would you suggest if somebodyalready knows that they have some challenges
and that they, you know, they'd like to workwith you?
What would you suggest is the there's a formatin which they work with you.
So you had mentioned before something about,you know, working with somebody for four
months.
So are there different choices of how they workwith you, or is this pretty much this is what
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we set up or you it depends on what they need?
So there's two different, ways that I work withpeople.
They're still over four months because you needto have, the hundred and twenty days from like,
when you're working with a person from the livestandpoint, from the live blood cells to change
and to see that, to truly, like, see an actual,picture of what's happened.
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So it does a 20 life cycle.
So that's why it's over four months.
But the frequency in which people might workwith me, whether it's weekly or every other
weekly, that is gonna depend on what we uncoverduring the discovery call to see what level of
things they've already done.
You know what I mean?
Someone who might already be doing a lot ofthings but still not sure why they're not
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getting results.
Maybe they don't need to work with me asclosely.
You know what I mean?
Once they figure that out and we put theprotocol together, so that might be at every
other person like, in every other, week,client.
But most people end up just working really,really well with me when we do the the weekly.
They're getting so much more education.
They're getting the weekly support.
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And that's all virtual.
So people don't have to keep coming back intomy office.
They just need to be in my office for the threeassessments over those, four months of care.
Excellent.
Wow.
If there were anything you wanted to leave ouraudience with, I think that you've given us so
much.
But what would that be?
Is there anything else that you'd like to leavethem with?
If there's anything else that I can say, I justour bodies like, your body, all of our bodies
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have this absolutely amazing built in innateability to heal, And you're worth it.
Like, everybody's worth taking a little bit oftime to figure out what what's gonna be best
for their own personal health or their ownpersonal you know, like I said, the cellular
health that they that they for me, it's like,even if you even if you feel pretty good, but
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you just know that there's, you know, thingsthat may have happened to other people that you
love in your in your family history orwhatever, investing in in in understanding that
so that you have more time, like I said, and abetter quality of life.
To me, it's you know, people take care of theircars sometimes better than they take care of
their their own body.
And we we can buy a new car when it breaksdown, but we can't buy a new body.
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So, you know, I look at my daughter and I thinkto myself, you know, even if something gets
hard, I'm like, what am I doing this for?
Well, I'm doing it for her.
I wanna be around and have a lot of fun withher for the next eighty years, which will put
me at, like, a 20.
But I just feel like we're all worth it.
We're all worth taking some time to figure thatout so you can truly live.
Like I always say, sometimes you take a personfrom living in black and white to living in
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color, and that is amazing.
That is a great way to put that.
Taking a person from living in black and whiteto living in color, that's beautiful.
And you know what?
The information that you've given us today ispriceless.
And so I would love if our audience if any ofthis has resonated with you, that you just, you
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know, get in touch with Jennifer L'Arche and,you know, and again, just mention that website
one more time.
So it's lifeforceenergetics.com.
So lifeforce and then the wordenergeticswithanix@theend,uh,.com.
So pretty easy.
And like I said, just fill out the contactform.
I'm happy to get back to you and set that upand go from there.
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And do they have to wait a long time to get in?
Well, so I don't because because of howspecific and detailed my programs are, I don't
take a ton of clients on all at once, but Iusually take a few new ones on every other
month.
I stagger things.
And so it really will just depend.
Right?
You know what I mean?
So when we do the call, we'll talk about that.
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I'll let them know whether or not.
But, usually, even if I do the assessment, youknow what I mean, and then maybe we start two
weeks later, you know, that that's fine too.
But, again, I usually have that conversationwhenever I do the discovery calls to try to
figure out, first of all, like, what they'reyou know, sometimes people aren't ready right
away too.
So I might book them for, like, the followingmonth if they're going away or something, you
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know, someone this one lady said my daughter'sgetting married.
So, you know, it depends.
They need to also be ready and willing to dothe work.
So if there have other things going on, I wantit to be successful.
I wanna make sure that they're that they havethe time and energy to commit to to doing the
the health work.
Well, Jennifer, you can tell that you have acomplete passion for what you do.
And, again, I just wanna thank you so much foryour time today.
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You really have given us so much information,so thank you.
Thank you, Catherine.
I am so honored.
I connected with you, you know, from the firsttime we met, and I just am really grateful to
be able to share what I am so loving andpassionate about.
And, you know, maybe, like I said, if I canhelp one person have more time with people they
love, I then I've then I've done my work hereon this Earth.
So thank you.
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Well and so to our audience, you know, pleasereach out to Jennifer again.
And I'm just so grateful that everyone haslistened, to our time together.
And, again, this is Catherine, your host withthe Beyond Business podcast.
So grateful to have you with us here today.
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Well, if you made it to this point, then youmade it to the end, and you are my star.
And I just wanna thank you from the bottom ofmy heart.
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I am Catherine Martin Fisher, and I helpbusiness owners who have lost their vision
because they're struggling with cash flow,sales, marketing, which also affects their
company culture, by showing them to implementproven systems that increase their revenue by
30% in ninety days, and this allowing them toreignite the passion and that big dream that
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they started with.
So the reason that I started this podcast wasto celebrate businesses who have overcome
adversity and have come out on the other sideof it.
And I want you to know that you are not alone.
Good afternoon.
This is Catherine, your host with BeyondBusiness podcast, and I am just excited to have
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Jennifer Larsh with us here today.
So for the last twenty years, Jen's passion hasbeen sales, marketing, and leadership
development.
Her experience in physician practice marketing,pharmaceutical sales, and direct sales
leadership has led her to question the deeperroot cause of disease.
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So I this is a conversation that is just sonear and dear to my heart.
I love talking about some of the things that weneed to just know about disease, how it starts,
what it you know, just what happens on acellular level.
And I know that you have so many answers andand great tips to share with us, Jen Jennifer.
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So thank you.
Thank you so much for having me, Catherine.
I'm honored.
Really grateful to be here.
So, Jennifer, I would love for you to sharewith our audience how so I find it interesting
because you were in pharmaceutical sales,you've done all of these other things, but
you're now in a place where there had to havebeen something, some reason why you decided to
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dive deep and find out more about how it isthat disease even occurs in the body.
So let's talk a little bit about that.
Okay.
Awesome.
Yes, Catherine.
As you said, there there is, a couple littledefining moments in my life that actually led
me to make those deeper questions and reallywant to search for answers.
And it has to do with family members.
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My dad, was diagnosed with cancer in, 2016,and, of course, that was a huge shock to the
family.
No no one no one ever expects to to get that toget that diagnosis and call, even though,
unfortunately, it's very common these days.
And so that that is that was sort of the firstpiece of the puzzle where, you know, we did
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traditional, you know, therapies and and andand we went the route that most people go.
And after that, my dad still had cancer.
And so, you know, he was we were told evengoing to a second opinion, We were told that he
was going to, have to have, you know, a asurgery to move his bladder so that he could
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basically, you know, be cancer free.
And I you know, of course, I'm supporting mydad in every decision that he makes, but I just
felt I felt that there was something, like,intuitively that felt wrong about it.
And so I had asked him if he would be willingto work with a nutritionist.
I took him up to Staten Island to try to see ifwe could help boost his immune system.
I mean, again, I wasn't really I was inwellness a little bit, but I was I didn't have
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enough knowledge to to and this was my father.
You know what I mean?
I wanna be there as a support system.
I wanted to get really, really good, experienceand knowledge, from somebody who, you know, was
trained.
And so, we did that.
And then through through through that,experience, he ended up, she said, hey.
Absolutely.
I can help your father, but, you know, if youreally wanna know what your dad needs at the
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cellular level because, again, cancer cells,right, they're cells.
They're cells that have gone off their off thetracks and become pathogenic to us.
She She said, if you really wanna understandyour dad's cellular health, you should take him
to a woman who does this thing calledmicroscopy.
It's nutritional microscopy.
Then you can put together we can put a really,really specific plan for your father to help
his cells get healthy.
And I thought, well, that sounds amazing.
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Why haven't I ever heard of this before?
Like, that makes so much sense to me.
Right?
Like, you've got cancer cells, so the cells arenot working right.
How do we get, you know, the rest of the cellsbetter and healthy?
And so I took him to that that, lady, and Ilearned a lot, in that process.
And ended up, having my dad work with she's shereferred him to another, physician, and my dad
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worked with that woman.
And long story short, you know, my dad ended upbecoming cancer free.
And I was part of that process of watching himdo all the things and, you know, really
changing his diet significantly, reallyfocusing on what his body needed at the
cellular level, along with some other thingsthat the physician had, prescribed.
And it was it was mind blowing.
And yet it it intuitively, I felt, you know,that that that that was something that we were
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supposed to do, that our body was supposed tohave that ability.
And when I was selling pharmaceutical drugs,the ones I sold in particular, obviously,
there's place for medicine, but they were alllifestyle medication.
So they were things that people we know nowreally are having to do with lifestyle.
So it was, like, interesting.
You know what I mean?
To go from that to to then understanding, wow.
The body really can heal, but you have to bevery specific and and give it what it's asking
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for.
So that's really why, you know, I do what I do.
And then additionally, I I I ended up losing mymom in 2020.
And so that that part was hard because I tookher to a lot of specialists for a lot of
different things that didn't seem related atall.
But now looking back and understanding anddoing the work I do now and the training I've
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had and the doctors that I work with now, Iactually finally understand that a lot of the
all the things that she that was going on, theywere all part of one particular problem, and
that had to do with her cellular function.
And, you know, she I I lost her before, youknow, any of us could figure it out.
And so I always say, like, when I came backinto coaching, I took a year off after my mom
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died.
When I came back into coaching, I said, I'mgonna I'm gonna do something that actually
helps people take the guesswork out.
I said, because from a nutritional standpoint,the body can heal.
And so I just wanna be able to give more peopletime with people that they love.
So that's sort of the way I honor my mom.
I love that you're sharing that and you'resharing your heart because, you know, I, I lost
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my mom in 2022 and seeing every specialist thatyou could take them to over and over.
And and my mom was very much about nutrient youknow, like, the she was all about, alternative,
like, always looking for a cure alternativelyversus medically.
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And and this is not to say that there like yousaid, there is medical it's needed.
You have to have that.
You have to have those diagnosis yet.
But sometimes we need to look at the body as awhole, and sometimes we like, I love that you
use the word intuitively because sometimes weintuitively know that there's something more.
There's a reason why we have this disease thathas been created in the body and and it's at
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the cellular level.
So what would you just explain to our audiencewhen you say the cellular, not everybody
understands that.
So let's let's just dive deep into that.
What do you mean by the cellular level, and andhow do you how do you find out how what it is
that a person needs at that level?
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That's great.
So yeah.
So how I help a person understand what is atthe cellular level.
So I call it cellular nutrition.
Right?
So what does what does your individual bodyneed at the cellular level?
I use three parts of an assessment.
So people come into my office.
I have a a questionnaire that they, you know,obviously have prior.
They bring that in.
I always ask them to bring any other thingsthat are relevant, you know, other types of,
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medical doctors, holistic practitioners, youknow, chiropractors, pretty much anything
because I try to gather as much information aspossible so that, you know, some of that can
play into what we find when we do theassessment.
They come into the office and we use like Isaid so the nutrition microscopy is, I start
with a metabolic profile where I'm looking athow their body is is basically showing up in a
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metabolic way.
And and and, you know, we use, urine andsaliva, and we use, you know, blood pressure
readings.
We use a bunch of different things.
They also, you know, as prep preparation, I wastalking about them being willing to do a blood
sugar, a fasting blood sugar.
And most people have already done that beforeor if they're like, yeah.
Absolutely.
No problem.
I'll do a finger prick.
They they know what it is.
Most people have done a glucose video onthemselves.
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So as part of that process, after they do that,we actually end up taking, a little bit of the
blood, you know, after they do the glucose,and, we just put it right on the microscope
side.
So, you know, there's nothing.
There's you know, we don't do any blood draws.
Like I said, they just are willing to do thatto be able to see what's actually happening
under this high powered microscope.
And it's kind of fun because there's no youknow?
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It just is mind blowing when you see a person,and I put it up on the screen because I have a
big I have a TV screen, and so it goes frommicroscope to TV screen.
And they're like, oh my god.
Wait.
Is that, like, what are what is that?
That's my blood.
And there's nothing it literally goes from,like, their finger to this microscope slide to
there.
So it's there's nothing in between.
Whatever we see is what it is.
I always say the blood doesn't lie.
Right?
So whatever we see, that's actually happeningright now in their body.
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It's not being sent out.
It's not you know, it's just very interesting.
There's no reagents used, and it's justbeautiful.
It's this most it's a beautiful thing to seeour life force.
That's why that's why I need my my businesslife force, because there's an energetic of our
blood.
And we're able to, you know, look and see.
Again, the people who've been trained asmicroscopists, we're we're able to understand
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different things that we can see that maybeshouldn't be there or maybe the cells have
changed because the environment that they'reliving in is not as healthy as it should be.
Right?
Like in my dad's case, it had gone one way, butthere's other things that can happen.
Sometimes people are low in vitamin b twelveor, you know, folate or things like that.
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So we do that part.
We also do another layer, which is more likethe oxidative stress on the body, like how much
free radical damage has been occurring in theirbody and also for how long.
And so, again, we're able to, you know, takenote of that.
And then when I put all three of those piecestogether, so the metabolic piece where we're
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looking at the chemistry, the live where we'reactually seeing, like, what's happening right
now, you know, sitting there, and then also theoxidative like, how much oxidative stress has
happened to their body up until this point.
We're able to put together, a protocol, and,like, these are the things that are going on.
This is, like, the top priorities that we'dlike to look at fixing from a nutritional
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standpoint.
And then the nutrition is basically everythingfrom, you know, different kinds of foods to
when you're eating foods to how you're eatingfood to so I talk about cellular nutrition as
sunlight.
That is actually nutrition to our body.
Not not everyone understands that, but itactually is nutrition.
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Like, it actually feeds our body when we getsunlight, especially from a hormone standpoint.
It's movement.
It's breathing.
It's actually protecting yourself from there'sa lot of negative EMFs or there's a lot of
negative energies.
There's a lot of negative blue light.
So it's it's everything.
There's not just one thing, but what we do is,like I said, having those three pieces of the
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assessment helps us to really understand wheretheir cellular health is right now and the
protocols based on how to get that better, howto heal it.
And then we we we assess that too.
We don't just go, okay.
Let's let's let's do this, and then you'regood.
I work with them closely over sixteen weeks,and we do assessments along the way.
So we can actually see I mean, most people, bythe time they get to the second assessment,
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they're feeling better.
But to be able to see that internally theircellular function is changing and it's going in
a better direction is really huge for people,you know, because sometimes, you know, it's
hard to make changes.
Right?
Not everyone loves to make changes.
But when you can see that the work you'reputting in is actually doing something at that
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level and, I mean, I try to educate people thatcells are the building blocks of everything.
So when you can help them start to heal, you'regonna see healing in other aspects of your of
your organs or organ systems.
So, yeah, it's it's that's sort of the deepdive of, like, how we put together a particular
cellular health protocol for somebody.
It's based on their own thing.
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And I'm ahead.
Well, I love that you you're able to put thison a screen pretty much immediately and show
them.
So give us an example of what that would looklike, a healthy cell versus a not so healthy
cell and how you would be able to tell.
So, yeah, I have a really cool, slide that Iuse in my use in my presentations where it
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shows, you know, basically the a small snapshotof of the picture of of of your blood cells,
and the red blood cells are usually, you know,pretty round and uniform in size.
And then there's, you know, white blood cells.
If you can see them, sometimes what happens isa lot of times when people are cellular
dehydrated, and that can be not just water,like, meaning that they're not drinking enough,
like like, drinking my water.
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There's there can be cellular dehydration thatoccurs for other reasons, not just because
they're not getting enough water.
But if if cellular dehydration if you're seeingthat in a sample, what's gonna happen is all
the blood cells are congested.
We call it rouleaux, which is where they looklike stacked coins or what the next, like, sort
of the the, the next thing after that, which ispretty bad is when it's called aggregation.
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So they're all stuck together.
So, I mean, Catherine, you are, you know, anintelligent woman.
If you think about red blood cells and and howthey're supposed to work throughout the body
and they're supposed to go in and out ofdifferent, like, veins and capillaries, they
need to get oxygen right into the into thecells.
So they have to uptake oxygen, and they have todown regulate toxins.
If they're all stuck together, how effectivelyor efficiently can that happen?
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Right.
Not at all.
No.
Not at all.
There's no flow.
Very, very, very, very slowly and and and andeffectively.
And so I see that a lot because, you know, andthere's many different things that could be
causing that, which is why doing the otherpieces of the assessment helped me to hone in
really why is that happening?
Is it that they're just really dehydrated?
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Is there a digestive issue?
Are they really deficient in a bunch ofnutrients and minerals?
And so they just you know?
So, again, doing a lot of the pieces togetherhelps me to formulate a pretty good plan and
protocol.
And then, again, we assess.
We assess how that protocol is working.
If we need to change something, we changesomething.
Something.
We're not just gonna sit back and say, okay.
Good luck.
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So I wanna
I want our audience to understand.
Once you have assessed a person, what are someof the things that might be changes that they
would have to make in order for you when you goback to do an assessment again for their for
you to be able to see a considerabledifference.
Okay.
Yeah.
So some of the different things that I couldpotentially have a client use, like, for
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instance, if someone had that cellularaggregation
Mhmm.
Is that you know, I always talk about waterfirst because 70% of us were were water.
Right?
So that's an important thing.
But it's not just are you drinking enoughwater.
It's what kind of water are you drinking?
Are you drinking water that is not, that hasextra things in it that are they're cellular
toxins.
Right?
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Not not you're looking at so not everyonerealizes that they could be drinking a lot of
water, but if they're drinking a lot of waterthat has toxins that are putting an overload
right?
Remember we talked about, oxidative stress.
So if too many free radicals are coming inbecause you're drinking chugging water all day,
that's just causing more dysfunction at that atthat cellular level.
So we talk about water.
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It's really it's one of the number one things Iask them about.
What kind of water are you drinking?
Obviously, I'm quantifying how much are theydrinking if it's good water that they're
drinking.
A lot of people aren't drinking the best water.
Consider to be good water?
I I do wanna interject that.
So what I consider to be good water is, one ofthe things I learned when my dad had cancer was
she said about having a, zero gravity filter orsomething that's taking all the toxins out.
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So so I recommend a zero gravity filter.
I, myself, at my house has a has a reverseosmosis filter.
We've had it for six years, seven years sincebefore my daughter was born.
And so that takes out everything, like,everything.
All the everything bad that you don't want inyour water, and it actually takes even good
minerals out.
So you have to actually add minerals back in,like, you know, separately because you still
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need the right kind of minerals, but it itremoves everything.
So the zero gravity filter is similar in that.
It's just not an under the sink.
You know, usually, the RO machines are $3 or 4you know, they're they're pretty pricey, and
they stay in the house or, you know, attachedto your water system.
Whereas the the the ones that I recommend arethings that you can take with you if you move.
We have one at our like, at at we have, like, alittle property, so we have one there.
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So it's it's something that will it's, again,removing all the toxins, but you're still gonna
have to put in some of the, good minerals thatyou need.
They're trace minerals.
So there's these little trace mineral dropsthat I recommend that I that we get off of
Amazon.
But that's important because like I said, whenyou're trying to help someone reduce an
inflammatory load on their system and reduceoxidative stress on their system, you have to
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not keep adding in daily doses of water thathave things that you don't want
in there.
So if you're a, let's just say somebody in ouraudience that lives near a lot of farmland, and
would you say that and they've not tested theirwater.
Would you say that that might be one of thefirst places that they should look?
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That one of the first things they should maybelook into if they find that they have lots of
inflammation and for some some challenges thatthey're they might be going through health
wise?
Yes.
I do think that's like I said, it's reallyimportant because we do need to have a lot of
water.
We need to, you know, and I also talk to themwhen you have one of these filters, cooking
with it, you know, putting it in your fridge ifyou wanna have, you know, colder water.
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Like, it's important because you're you'reconsuming water all day.
I want people to consume water.
You know?
And depending on how active you are, you mightneed a lot more water, but it has to be good
water.
Because like I said, the whole point is tryingto reduce the inflammation load by reducing
extra toxins that could be coming into oursystem.
So water is important.
You know?
Obviously, air is important.
There's so many different things, but that's athat's one of the things I start with because
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I'm trying to understand how do we removethings from our environment that we have
control over.
We can't always control other things.
Like, obviously, if there's stuff in toxins in,you know, the air that we're breathing outside,
whatever, we can't control that, but we cancontrol what kind of water we're putting in to
our bodies.
Okay.
Alright.
Great.
And so once you're working with someone, do youhelp them with, like, how they're eating and,
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you know, things that they could change?
Like, does the testing that you do help you toidentify things that could be harmful that they
might be in you know, taking in?
Yes.
Absolutely.
And it's it's it's very interesting, you know,when you when you say, like, okay.
So, Jen, what kind of things are you when youtest that you can help them?
Maybe they're doing, like, everything wrong orthey think they're doing things right.
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And and, honestly, that's sort of how how mystory with trying to always look at at, you
know, how do I get healthy?
How to get healthy?
I was doing well, anyway, I was doing a lot ofdifferent things that were supposed to be
healthy, like working out all the time andeating, you know, organic grilled chicken
breasts and avocados and things.
But some of the foods that I was eating sosometimes people eat foods that are healthy,
like, they're deemed healthy, they'resuperfoods.
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But when they have a lot of inflammation, ifyou're trying to bring that down, you sometimes
have to remove things that are normally healthyfoods.
But if they're maybe not healthy for your bodyright now, you have to remove them.
And I always tell people if you really lovesomething, I'm not saying you have to remove
forever.
So our goal is to help your body heal so it canwork more optimally so that you can, you know,
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once in a while eat things that maybe are notnecessarily as great for you, but your body
knows how to handle it because it doesn't itthe toxic overload is is so much lessened that
one one offs here and there don't, you know,don't really maybe cause as much issues.
And I literally just had this conversation thismorning with a client, and they were saying
once a month, they come to they they they go toa certain area and they have this little lunch.
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And she was like, all the things on there are,like, stuff I should not be eating.
I said, you know what?
I think it's gonna be fine if one if today, aspart of your pilgrimage to doing the things you
do, that you have that sandwich with all thethings that you're not supposed to have on it
and your chips.
I said, because guess what?
Number one, we've been working together for acouple weeks.
I said, you've been doing so much to help bringthat toxic lowdown.
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I said, but the other thing too, there is thatthing about living.
You know?
Like, I don't want my people we have to dothings that obviously are aligning with helping
to build up our health on the inside, But italso shouldn't be that if that's something she
really enjoys once a month and she's doing allthis other stuff all the time to help her heal,
I said, don't even stress about it.
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I said the stress will be more of a issue thanjust eating it and enjoying it.
So, yeah, to, you know, to answer yourquestion, like, a lot of times people don't
always know until we sit down, and then they'relike, oh my gosh.
Like, I I just thought that that was healthybecause everyone says, like, that's a
superfood.
And I'm like, yeah.
Maybe a superfood and maybe for people who havegreat digestion, maybe it maybe it's great.
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I said, but if you don't, it's causing rightnow in your particular system more of an
inflammatory response than good.
So let's avoid that right now and try to workon healing the underlying, you know, digestive
insufficiency.
And then later on, add it back in here andthere to see how your body people start to
become very in tune to their bodies whenthey're working with me.
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It's pretty awesome to hear as we go through ithow in tune they become because they're
actually listening and seeing what the symptomsare because our body will tell us.
It really, really will.
And, you know, I love that you help peoplebecome much more aware and in tune with their
body because I think so many times we are justkinda going through the motions in life and
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you're super, super busy and you're not reallyyou're not really asking yourself questions as
to, you know, what is good for you.
You know, you think you're doing all the rightthings, but like you say, something that might
be considered a superfood could actually besomething that at the present moment in time,
based on where your cellular level is, could becausing you some challenges.
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So I like that you're able to help peoplenavigate through that period of time because
everything sometimes it's just a season.
Right?
And as you make those adjustments, then therecould be, you know, that it's just being the
season of helping the body to reset itself.
Yes.
And, so, alright, let's talk a little bitabout, a particular success story that you may
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have had or or or somebody who's just startedworking with you and just has this, like, wow
moment.
You know?
Can you can you think of anyone who would haveand would do not give me any late
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Well, I mean, there's definitely a dump a bunchof success stories linked to what I do.
But I'm thinking particularly of a client who,you know, we started working together.
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We we it was, you know, the the the firstassessment was there was some pretty serious
things that we were trying to work on from anutrition standpoint.
And she was gonna be going away or something.
So we had, like, three weeks, then she wasgonna wait for two weeks.
And then so I was like, well, let's just getstarted, and then, you know, you'll have your
vacation, whatever.
And I remember, like, the week before she wasleaving, so it was, like, the third week we
were working together, and she said, you know,I just I don't know if I can do this.
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Like, I just don't know if I can do this.
And I literally as I looked at her, I said, youalready are doing it.
You made a choice.
You made a decision.
You showed up, and you're doing the work.
And I said, and you know what?
I guarantee you, you're gonna have a bettertrip than you probably thought you were going
to because you're gonna be so much more aware,and you're not gonna be stressing about what
you're gonna, like, you know, gaining weight orall I said, you know, because people go away on
these trips.
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I said, you're gonna have a great time becauseyou already are aware of different things.
I said, and and you're gonna come back, andyou're gonna actually feel better.
And and when we come back in to do the the nextassessment, I said things already have shifted
for you.
And sure enough, they absolutely did.
And I remember her going to the net, and shegoes, I really didn't think I could do this,
but it actually was everything you said, Jen.
Like, you were already teaching me how to bemore aware of how foods are affecting me,
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making better choices knowing that certainthings don't make me feel as good, and I really
enjoyed my trip that much more.
And even if I ate something that, you know, Iknew might not be as as, beneficial to, like,
my overall, well-being, she said because Ididn't stress about it, I and I and it's like I
knew that I was already on the right track.
She said I really had a great time enjoyingthat two weeks away.
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And so, you know, again, sometimes people justdon't it's almost like they don't believe in
themselves, but that's part of why I love whatI do is because I my whole point is not just to
show you what's going on, but to empower youthat you have the ability to heal and you can
make little tiny, like, little changes.
But it's the consistency of making little tinychanges and following what your body's telling
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you to have huge results.
And her, I mean, her results when we did thefinal assessment were actually almost
astounding.
Like, I I was I always get such great progress,but it was probably one of the best progresses
that we'd ever had from a very, very, verylike, you know, there was a lot going on in
that first one.
And Mhmm.
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It was just amazing to see her feel her ownpower again and feel that she actually had
control to be able to do this.
And that to me is that's everything.
That is so oh my goodness.
I love I love these kind of conversations.
Give me just you know, I I do wanna talk alittle bit about, your dad and how that
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unfolded because that you know, so many timesyou get a diagnosis and you go into fear.
Right?
Because that's a pretty big word.
The c word is a really big word.
And, again, you know, we're not doctors.
We're not like I'm not a doctor.
I'm not.
So I the advice that is given here is this isall everybody has their own choices to make,
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and I love that we're able to make thosechoices of really looking at our body and
looking at it on that cellular level.
But while he was navigating through this,they're like, did you still went to the
doctors, you still went and got, you know,whatever scans or things?
Because you have to know what's going on withthe body, right, at all levels.
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Mhmm.
So what did that look like, and and how did howwas he because sometimes, you know, a loved one
could want something for you, but then how didhe navigate through that to be able to to be
aware, but also to want to, you know, look athis body in that manner.
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That's a great question of, you know, how didthat process look like.
And, again, like you said, I'm not a doctor.
I don't diagnose anything.
I don't treat anything.
I don't prevent anything.
In fact, I work with functional medicinedoctors.
I actually refer clients all the time todoctors that I know and trust that are also
aligned with, like, how do we look at rootcauses, how do we look at healing the body
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versus just managing things.
And so, that's why I love the doctors that I amyou know, that I refer to and because, again, I
stay in my lane with nutrition.
But as as you were asking, when we took my dadup there to New York to the nutritionist, you
know, right after that is when she said youshould see this person who does the microscopy
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so we really can put together, a really goodprotocol to help build your immune system up.
And at the time, my dad had already scheduledhis surgery to have the removal done.
So that was so, like, we had, like, I think,like, six or eight weeks before that happened.
So we were like, okay.
We have a short period of time to really, buildup the immune system so that we can have the
best outcomes.
Like, it was all already set to go.
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But I so I'm a I'm a believer.
I I I believe that, you know, that, again, godput us here, and he gave us these amazing
bodies, and he also gave reason to heal us.
So halfway through that process, the thesurgery got canceled and rescheduled because of
I think it was a higher power.
But bottom line is I believe that God wasorchestrating things behind the scenes.
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So halfway through, the surgery got canceledand then rescheduled.
So we had a little bit couple more weeks beforethat actually happened.
And he started working with that physician,again, a a a physician, not not around here.
And he didn't get any scans or anything becauseit was such a short period of time.
It wasn't like they were gonna do anything.
They knew that the surgery was gonna happen.
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It's that when they went in to do the biopsy afew days before the actual surgery, the
oncology urologist called us and said, Greg,we're canceling the surgery.
And we were like, oh, no.
Are you going out of the country again?
Because that's what happened the first time.
And he's like, no.
We don't have any cancer cells.
And we were like, wait.
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What?
I mean, it was we weren't none of us wereexpecting what happened with my dad to happen.
We just knew that we were on a good track forhelping him be healthier and for helping his
immune system because, you know, it wasobviously damaged by the the chemo treatments,
all the things he'd done before.
So we were just really trying to help buildrebuild him back.
So it was very shocking for that surgeon tosay, you know, we're gonna see you in three
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months and we're gonna do another biopsy scanbecause maybe, like, maybe this is just a
fluke.
But at that point, I believed that my dad hadbeen healed.
I believe that God had put different people inplace for that time and for that purpose.
And for whatever reason, he felt that my dadwas not going to have that surgery.
And that was, what, seven, eight years ago?
Eight years ago?
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So, yeah.
So my dad continued to, you know, again, workclosely with those doctors and get his his, you
know, when he went in for the scan down in JohnHopkins.
He was doing everything he was supposed to doon that end.
He was just also doing nutritional, and he wasexcited about it because he felt better.
He started to feel better.
Like, he had a lot of side effects from the thethe three months of chemo.
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So he started to feel better even in thosecouple weeks.
So it it made him feel good that he was doingsomething good for his body.
That's excellent.
You really help to get people to be, you know,not just aware, but on then by, you know, by
them doing some of those changes that you'reasking them to do and really working alongside
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with them, you are empowering them.
And that's beautiful because that's what peopleneed sometimes.
You need that purse that cheerleader that cansay, hey.
You can do this.
You can do this.
And and in the end, they wind up feelingbetter.
So thank you so much for all that you do toserve because it really is you know, I love in
the beginning when you said that you wanna givepeople more time and memories with their
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family.
And, you know, and that's important because somany times we're just not aware that we
actually can take charge of our own lives andour own health and be more responsible about
that.
So thank you.
Now, Jennifer, I want you to share, is thereanything that people could do that could be a a
takeaway that they take with them and say, whatcan I do to make a small change that could make
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a big difference in my life each day?
Okay.
So there's so many of them, but I'll just do,like, one of my number one things.
I think the sun is a total gift from god forhealing.
And the more that I research and the more that,you know, I'm learning because it's starting to
really become out there.
There's a lot more, studies and a lot moreproof showing that the sun truly is healing.
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There is it actually when you see the sun inthe morning within the first ninety minutes.
So, obviously, that's gonna change throughoutthe seasons.
Right?
It's gonna also change from, like, where youlive if you live close to the Equator.
But rule of thumb is I tell my clients and thisis something so, obviously, my protocols are
specific to different individuals.
But one thing that never changes because we'reall human beings, we all need the sun.
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So one thing that always is the same in everyprotocol is that people get outside for five to
ten minutes every morning within the firstninety minutes.
That's that's it.
And they don't stare at the sun.
It could be winter.
It could be raining.
They could just go out on a porch, you know,that's covered.
And they can be bundled up if it's snowing,but, like, just that five to ten minutes
consistently can help to set off a cascade ofhormones in their body that they need to be
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able to for their body to function moreproperly throughout the rest of the day.
So it, you know, it it doesn't sound like much,but, like, putting it in there as a routine is
just the big key.
Right?
And that's why, like I said, I work with peopleclosely because I help to make that a habit.
And I'd rather someone it's not about going outfor an hour on a Saturday morning.
It's about going out five to ten minutes everysingle day.
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It's that consistency of of basically syncingyour your body up to the circadian rhythm of
the of the universe of us of the sun.
And, you just start to feel better.
Like, you will start to see that you wanna goto bed more at the same time.
You wake up at the same time because your bodyis syncing up, and that is at a cellular level.
That literally is at a cellular level.
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So it makes a difference doing somethingconsistently versus doing it for a long period
on one particular day.
Correct.
Because our body needs to see that every day.
So standing outside for an hour, you know, on aSaturday, if you're just hanging out on a
Saturday, is it's good.
Don't get me wrong.
Of course, I'm gonna I'd be happy to have yououtside on a Saturday.
But if you're doing the five to ten minutesevery single morning consistently, week after
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week after week, that's where the that's whereyour body can actually sync up, and your
circadian rhythms can actually start to to beto, like I said, be more whole, right, and not
not fragmented.
A lot of us don't have good sleeping patterns.
We don't have good but our melatonin is notit's not gonna come out the way it needs to if
you're not getting that morning sun.
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It's it's just it it messes up the whole schemeof how our bodies hormonally are are are
supposed to work throughout the day.
Wow.
So then somebody who is not who's notscheduled, who's not a scheduled person, who
doesn't, like, at the same time get up everyday as the same time go to sleep every day, you
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know, that can mess up your your circadianrhythm.
Circadian rhythm's correct.
Yes.
And and, a %, we are supposed to be on a a flowof a twenty four hour that, like, our bodies
have a a switch that goes, you know, 24 is,like, twelve hours on, one way, twelve hours.
And so the hormones that are released and theway in which they're released, that cascade
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starts in the morning.
And that's why, like I say, ninety minutesbecause it is it you know, it can be crazy.
You know?
Again, time of seasons, you know, it might bedifferent in the summer where you can get up at
05:30 when the sun comes up and hang out for anhour or two before your kids wake up versus,
like, the school year, you know, it you have tochange some things around.
Now you may have to still wake up at 05:30, andprotect yourself with some blue blocking
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glasses, you know, some some amber blueblocking glasses.
And then at 07:10, right before you take yourkid to the school bus, walk outside for ten
minutes, you know what I mean, and have yourcoffee and then take your kid to school.
So it does take a little bit of playing around.
But, again, it's not when you think about thewhole scheme of your life, like, out of twenty
four hours, five to ten minutes a day to helpyour body work better so that you could have
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better health long term and be at all the kids'games and maybe be at your grandkids' games.
You know what I mean?
Like, I try to help people understand, like,what you're doing is it's it's it's building,
like, a cellular health well for you that youcan continue to have have the the life you want
and the and the longevity, the quality of lifethat you want for these couple little things
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that you're doing that really are not if youjust put them into your habits and just make
them part of who you are, that's, like, that'swhy I work with people for four months because
my whole goal is, like, educate them, empowerthem, and help them to start making those
decisions that after the time they that's justwho they are.
They just know that they're waking up, andsometime in those first ninety minutes, they're
gonna get a little bit of sun.
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Got it.
Wow.
This is this is really good.
So, Jennifer, I could talk to you all day long.
So what I do I would I would love for ouraudience to know, like, there is something that
resonated with me.
I just love this Jennifer lady, and I want towork with her and or I know somebody who really
needs her help.
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So how would they find you?
What would they what would be the first way inwhich that, you know, they would be able to get
in touch with you to be able to start workingwith you?
So even just ask questions.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I always set up a discovery call.
I really like to understand a little bit abouta person, like, what they want, maybe what
they've done in the past, you know, help themunderstand really what I do.
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I like to do a Zoom so they can see what I'myou know, I show them pictures, which is really
fun.
And, they can actually go right to my website,which is ww.lifeforceenergetics.com.
And it's so it's life and so e and then anothere.
So it kind of it's like two e's right next toeach other.
So sometimes people mess that up, but it's lifeforce energetics, also that with an x at the
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end, I x.
And so they can just go on there.
There is a form that says contact.
They also have my, my phone number on there.
And so, you know, I'm happy if someone calls meor, like I said, for them to do the contact
form, it'll come right to my email, and then Ican give them a call and set that that
discovery call up so I can understand, youknow, what it is that they're that they would
like to try to find out and uncover about them.
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And so what would you suggest if somebodyalready knows that they have some challenges
and that they, you know, they'd like to workwith you?
What would you suggest is the there's a formatin which they work with you.
So you had mentioned before something about,you know, working with somebody for four
months.
So are there different choices of how they workwith you, or is this pretty much this is what
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we set up or you it depends on what they need?
So there's two different, ways that I work withpeople.
They're still over four months because you needto have, the hundred and twenty days from like,
when you're working with a person from the livestandpoint, from the live blood cells to change
and to see that, to truly, like, see an actual,picture of what's happened.
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So it does a 20 life cycle.
So that's why it's over four months.
But the frequency in which people might workwith me, whether it's weekly or every other
weekly, that is gonna depend on what we uncoverduring the discovery call to see what level of
things they've already done.
You know what I mean?
Someone who might already be doing a lot ofthings but still not sure why they're not
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getting results.
Maybe they don't need to work with me asclosely.
You know what I mean?
Once they figure that out and we put theprotocol together, so that might be at every
other person like, in every other, week,client.
But most people end up just working really,really well with me when we do the the weekly.
They're getting so much more education.
They're getting the weekly support.
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And that's all virtual.
So people don't have to keep coming back intomy office.
They just need to be in my office for the threeassessments over those, four months of care.
Excellent.
Wow.
If there were anything you wanted to leave ouraudience with, I think that you've given us so
much.
But what would that be?
Is there anything else that you'd like to leavethem with?
If there's anything else that I can say, I justour bodies like, your body, all of our bodies
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have this absolutely amazing built in innateability to heal, And you're worth it.
Like, everybody's worth taking a little bit oftime to figure out what what's gonna be best
for their own personal health or their ownpersonal you know, like I said, the cellular
health that they that they for me, it's like,even if you even if you feel pretty good, but
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you just know that there's, you know, thingsthat may have happened to other people that you
love in your in your family history orwhatever, investing in in in understanding that
so that you have more time, like I said, and abetter quality of life.
To me, it's you know, people take care of theircars sometimes better than they take care of
their their own body.
And we we can buy a new car when it breaksdown, but we can't buy a new body.
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So, you know, I look at my daughter and I thinkto myself, you know, even if something gets
hard, I'm like, what am I doing this for?
Well, I'm doing it for her.
I wanna be around and have a lot of fun withher for the next eighty years, which will put
me at, like, a 20.
But I just feel like we're all worth it.
We're all worth taking some time to figure thatout so you can truly live.
Like I always say, sometimes you take a personfrom living in black and white to living in
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color, and that is amazing.
That is a great way to put that.
Taking a person from living in black and whiteto living in color, that's beautiful.
And you know what?
The information that you've given us today ispriceless.
And so I would love if our audience if any ofthis has resonated with you, that you just, you
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know, get in touch with Jennifer L'Arche and,you know, and again, just mention that website
one more time.
So it's lifeforceenergetics.com.
So lifeforce and then the wordenergeticswithanix@theend,uh,.com.
So pretty easy.
And like I said, just fill out the contactform.
I'm happy to get back to you and set that upand go from there.
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And do they have to wait a long time to get in?
Well, so I don't because because of howspecific and detailed my programs are, I don't
take a ton of clients on all at once, but Iusually take a few new ones on every other
month.
I stagger things.
And so it really will just depend.
Right?
You know what I mean?
So when we do the call, we'll talk about that.
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I'll let them know whether or not.
But, usually, even if I do the assessment, youknow what I mean, and then maybe we start two
weeks later, you know, that that's fine too.
But, again, I usually have that conversationwhenever I do the discovery calls to try to
figure out, first of all, like, what they'reyou know, sometimes people aren't ready right
away too.
So I might book them for, like, the followingmonth if they're going away or something, you
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know, someone this one lady said my daughter'sgetting married.
So, you know, it depends.
They need to also be ready and willing to dothe work.
So if there have other things going on, I wantit to be successful.
I wanna make sure that they're that they havethe time and energy to commit to to doing the
the health work.
Well, Jennifer, you can tell that you have acomplete passion for what you do.
And, again, I just wanna thank you so much foryour time today.
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You really have given us so much information,so thank you.
Thank you, Catherine.
I am so honored.
I connected with you, you know, from the firsttime we met, and I just am really grateful to
be able to share what I am so loving andpassionate about.
And, you know, maybe, like I said, if I canhelp one person have more time with people they
love, I then I've then I've done my work hereon this Earth.
So thank you.
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Well and so to our audience, you know, pleasereach out to Jennifer again.
And I'm just so grateful that everyone haslistened, to our time together.
And, again, this is Catherine, your host withthe Beyond Business podcast.
So grateful to have you with us here today.
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Well, if you made it to this point, then youmade it to the end, and you are my star.
And I just wanna thank you from the bottom ofmy heart.
I hope that you enjoyed the conversation withtoday's guest.
And if you did, please leave us a review onApple Podcasts and Spotify and share this
episode with others who may be interested inthis topic.
Also, please feel free to let us know whattopics you'd like to see covered in future
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episodes.
Get in touch in the comments or in RocketGrowth's social media platforms.
To have conversations with me, my booking linkis in the comments.
See you next week for all for a all newepisode.
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