May 12, 2025 • 48 mins
Katherine Martín-Fisher welcomes Rochel Marie Lawson to discuss her journey from nursing to entrepreneurship and her embrace of Ayurveda. Rochel shares insights into her successful venture, Blissful Living, and the holistic treatments it offers. She talks about her inspiration for a healthcare career, the benefits of Ayurveda, and her transition from telecommunications to healthcare. The episode also covers her authorship, the Brave, Bold, Unstoppable Women's Summit, and support for women veterans. Rochelle emphasizes health and well-being, discusses her podcast journey, and offers ways to connect with her work, concluding with goal setting and intentions.
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I am Katherine Martín-Fisher, and I helpbusiness owners who have lost their vision
because they're struggling with cash flow,sales, marketing, which also affects their
company culture, by showing them to implementproven systems that increase their revenue by
30% in 90 days, and this allowing them toreignite the passion and that big dream that
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they started with.
So the reason that I started this podcast wasto celebrate businesses who have overcome
adversity and have come out on the other sideof it.
And I want you to know that you are not alone.
Good afternoon.
This is Katherine, your host with "The BeyondBusiness Podcast," and I'm excited to introduce
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you to Rochel Marie Lawson.
And so let's let's just hear a little bit aboutRochel.
Sorry.
She is a dynamic and successful entrepreneur, abeacon of inspiration for women, and a force in
the telecommunications installation industry asthe CEO of All Day Cable Inc, the first
woman-owned minority-owned telecommunicationsinstallation company in the United States and
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the visionary president and founder of BlissfulLiving for You.
Rochel has not only made a substantial impacton the business landscape, but has also touched
the lives of countless women.
How has she done that?
Well, from Silicon Valley top 50 women-ownedbusiness, Rochel has carved her path with
visionary leadership, persistent dedication,and unwavering commitment to her clients'
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goals.
And we are gonna unfold some of this, but she'salso the queen of fabulous, feeling fabulous.
She's also a multiple business owner, RN, AHP,and dream lifestyle transformational
facilitator.
Celebrated author with multiple number onebestsellers on Amazon, and her creation of the
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Brave, Bold, Unstoppable Women's Summit hasbecome a platform for women to unlock the life
of their dreams.
Now I know that that was a lot, but I justfelt, Rochel, that we needed to hear that so
that we understood who we are speaking totoday.
So I'm so excited to introduce you to ouraudience.
Oh, it's a pleasure to be here.
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Thank you for having me.
So you have had many successes and many, Imean, this has been a complete unfolding.
I would love for our audience to hear just alittle bit about how your early life
experiences actually put you where you aretoday and what you're doing and that passion
that you have for what you're doing today.
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So my early life experiences, I would say,definitely trained me for me to be that queen
of feeling fabulous, that bold, unstoppablechick.
Because in my generation of kids, I was theonly granddaughter on both sides of my family.
So I grew up playing with a, you know, ofcourse, a lot of boys.
I have a brother.
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My cousins were back in the day, we all gottogether so much, the families that, you know,
they became they're like your brothers and, youknow, your extended brothers.
Right?
So it's more than cousins or your brother.
You see them all the time, every holiday,weekend, whatever.
And so, being this little girl amongst all thatboy male energy, I was bossy.
I was tenacious.
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If you told me I couldn't do something, I wasalways like, watch me.
I was very tough, but I was a very, very skinnylittle girl, but I was very, very tough.
And so I think just growing up in andparticularly in the neighborhood that I grew up
in, it wasn't the best, so to speak.
It's particularly when I I wanna say when I wasin elementary school.
It wasn't the best neighborhood.
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So there was a lot of things going on that yousee and you just kinda absorb as a kid.
You don't really know what's going on, but youyou learn, you hear, you listen, you know, and
you play.
Right?
And so I think with all of that, me, strivingto be successful, there was no doubt in my mind
that I was gonna be successful.
And I remember being a little girl saying, I'mgonna grow up and I'm gonna be the boss of my
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company and I'm gonna have employees, and I'mgonna be able to work anywhere in the world.
Now this is decades before we even hadcomputers, let alone the Internet.
But I knew one day that I wanted to be theboss, and I wanted to make a lot of money—still
working on that part.
But I wanted to be able to work anywhere in theworld, and I definitely wanted to help people
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that I felt like how I was as a little girl togrow up and be that brave, bold, unstoppable
person as an adult.
So that's how I got here.
That's awesome.
Now you're an RN, but you also do some thingswith your way in which to, you know, whether it
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be healing or modalities and things that youuse.
So I'd love to talk a little bit about that,okay?
And how you were able to navigate that withwhat you were doing
as an RN.
Okay.
So I am an RN.
I've gone on my 35th year of being a licensedRN.
I'm licensed in multiple states.
My background is emergency room trauma medicineand flight nursing.
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Nationally certified as an emergency room nurseand nationally certified as a trauma nurse and
a mobile intensive care nurse.
Anything you can get when it came to my area ofexpertise certification-wise, I got.
And so I've seen the good, the bad, and thevery ugly of, one, when things happen to you
beyond your control; two, when people don'ttake care of themselves; and three, when the
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health care system fails the patient.
And so over that course of my journey of beingan entrepreneur, starting a company in a very
male-dominated industry, my first company, Iactually had a journey with my own health and
well-being where I suffered for 17 years.
And it was through holistic medicine that I wasable to heal myself in nine months after
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suffering for 17 years.
So as a journey, it unfolded for me as anentrepreneur, what I noticed was women, we
always put ourselves last.
I gotta take care of my husband.
I gotta take care of my kids.
I gotta take care of my mom, my dad, my dog, mycat, you know, my auntie, whoever.
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I'll take care of me at the end of the day.
And then at the end of the day, we're too tiredto take care of ourselves.
So we go back to this routine again of takingcare of everybody.
I'll take care of myself later.
It never happens.
And from the result of that, things begin todevelop in us that we start negating.
We don't pay attention to that little pain inyour back, you know, that little nagging
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headache that comes on every day at 3:00.
I realized that in order for women to be ableto not only have the life of their dreams, that
whatever that definition is for you, but to beable to live the life of their dreams, we have
to put ourselves first.
And the priorities for us need to be ourwellness, our wisdom, our mindset, because
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without the right mindset, you can't doanything successfully, and our wealth so that
we can be prepared for retirement as well asleave a financial legacy for our future
generations.
So how do you help women?
You've had quite a journey.
And how do you help to give them thisinformation that you have?
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Like because, I mean, you've had some things goon even with your own health, right?
So let's talk a little bit about that and howyou were able to navigate and figure some
things out for yourself, and how do we helpothers to get this information so that they
understand what to do.
Okay.
So how I was able to help myself?
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First of all, I'm gonna backtrack.
My 17-year journey began, from what they nowhave diagnosed just this year as traumatic
stress syndrome in children.
And what I know as an RN is that wherever yourbody is the weakest, when you're under intense
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stress, that part of your body will beattacked.
So your immune system will not work effectivelyon that aspect of your body.
So for me, I had four very traumaticexperiences that I went through at the age of 8
that set me up for a 17-year journey of seeingprobably 100 physicians in Northern California.
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I grew up in Palo Alto, California, in SiliconValley, and having things done to me at a very
young age because they couldn't figure out whatwas wrong with me.
Lo and behold, on that journey, you know, theywere quick to give me a prescription, which
never worked because you can't you can'tprescribe something if you don't know what
you're prescribing it for.
Right?
So, on that journey, I started as I startedaging, I was introduced into I was very
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competitive.
Remember the girl, like, competing with theboys.
But I was introduced to affirmations andmeditation.
Very simple visionary visualization stuff, but,you know, it was it was really interesting.
And then, during my teenage years, I stoppedeating fast food.
I started, you know, saving my money to getmassages, and I started experimenting with
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herbs and giving myself facials.
I saw I had no acne when I was a teen.
And then my girlfriend started coming over.
I started giving them facials and clearing uptheir acne.
I had no idea what I was doing, but it wasworking, right?
And so over the course of these 25 years, youknow, once I became educated as a Western
medicine RN and had that knowledge behind me,what I realized was two things.
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One, I knew my diagnosis.
And, two, I knew I needed to do somethingbecause I was in excruciating pain every day.
And I had been faking it for so many years thatit was daunting, and I was very tired.
So my normal day started.
I was meditating, and I got this download.
And I say it's a divine download, a DD, so tospeak, like double D's.
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But I got this divine download.
And, in the download, it was things that I havebeen learning over the course of my 17 years,
but it was in a sequence.
And I was at my wit's end, so I said, you knowwhat?
I'm just gonna try it.
I will start writing stuff down.
It was nine steps.
These nine steps became the game changers tocompletely transform my life in nine months.
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I began incorporating the nine steps on a dailybasis.
By week three, I wasn't waking up with painevery day.
I wasn't waking up with so much pain that Iwanted to just stab myself in the abdomen to
let cold air hit my abdomen.
Right?
Mhmm.
Internally.
By week, by month three, well, you know, myskin—I mean, my skin looked more radiant.
Even though I didn't have acne, I kinda hadthis, like, dull, lifeless complexion.
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It became more radiant.
Long story short, by nine months, I wascompletely healed.
No pain, no side effects, no medication.
And here's the bewitching thing.
I knew what I had.
So as a registered nurse, I knew I had ableeding ulcer.
I knew that I had an ulcer that became sotraumatizing to my internal organ digestive
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system that it had not only set up an ulcer andpenetrated through the lining of my stomach, it
began to get to the very, very deep layers.
And so I was having this bleeding occurring inmy stool in various areas that I didn't even
know about, you know, I didn't even know about.
So I had low blood, you know, low hemoglobin,low red blood count.
It was attributed to my menstrual cycle, but itwas attributed to this bleeding ulcer.
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So in nine months, I was completely healed.
The amazing thing was I found out that what Iwas practicing was this discipline called
Ayurveda that had been originated in Indiaabout 5,000 years ago.
And so, of course, I had to go back to school,get an advanced degree in that and I began
incorporating that into everything I do, evenwith my patients, I had an emergency room.
I would have them do meditation breathingexercises, but they would do it and they would
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either get home, go home if they were havingany kind of cardiac issues or respiratory
issues, they would calm down or stress-related.
It was amazing that these patients would comeback to me in the middle of the night because I
worked the night shift and tell me that what Ishared with them changed their life.
And that's when I knew I was onto something.
So I'm here to report to you, holistic medicinedoes work.
You can use it in conjunction with Westernmedicine.
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I have been on no medications probably sincethe age of, what, 15.
I did have to take iron pills when I waspregnant with my children.
But other than that and so that's been, whoo,about well, a long time.
About 50-something years.
I haven't been on any medication in I'll say40.
We'll say 40.
But, it's just amazing.
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And so when I first opened Blissful Living forYou, it opened up as a holistic spa.
And I was I did a treatment.
I do a treatment called the Bliss Therapytreatment, which is really yummy.
And I had clientele, a very exclusive clientelefrom all over Northern California, San
Francisco Bay Area coming to my spa for thesetreatments, anywhere from professional athletes
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to CEO of major corporations in Silicon Valley.
And, and that's when I knew it was a gamechanger.
What I had the little bit of knowledge that Ihad, because there's just still so much I I
need to learn and can learn, but the little bitof knowledge I have helps me to have people
that really are ready to transform theirwellness, wisdom, and wealth to do that so they
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can have and live the life of their dreams.
So was your inspiration to become a nurse, wasthat born because of you having some health
issues, or is that something that's justcompletely separate?
So my inspiration to become a nurse was I'vealways been a caretaker.
I think, again, being the only girl.
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So my brother had very severe asthma when wewere growing up, and he's four years younger
than me.
So whenever we were at a cousin's, auntie's,uncle's, grandma's, you know, house, it never
failed he would have an asthma attack.
And I was the only one besides my mom who knewhow to take care of him.
Okay?
That was just my first instance.
But to be honest, I wanted to be a nurse when Iwas little.
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But as I grew up, I kinda got pushed intobusiness or other things that I was really good
at in school.
So here's the thing.
When I started that telecommunicationsinstallation company, it was because I couldn't
get hired as an electrical engineer in SiliconValley.
Because I couldn't get hired as an electricalengineer in Silicon Valley after interviewing
with every major electronics firm, over 20, whowould tell me, "We would love to hire you, but
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you gotta be working around men your father'sage.
So until we can figure out how to make themcomfortable, we can't hire you yet." This is
the late '80s.
What does a girl from the hood go back to do?
You either go negative or you go positive.
My positive was I went back to school and gotanother degree, which was a nursing degree.
And it just so happens that when I was inschool, I loved it.
I really have a gift.
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I can see illness in people that is not alwaysdetected.
So I loved it.
And when I graduated, the only job—oh, I wantedto be a labor and delivery nurse and deliver
babies, but the only job opening was in theemergency department.
And I got in there, and I absolutely loved itbecause I got to take care of—I got to deliver
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babies in the backseat of cars, the way totaking care of very, you know, our very frail
and elderly people and everything in between.
And I think it was just a rewarding career.
It is rewarding.
But in the essence of that, it allowed me tohelp people that I was able to touch some
lives, and these people would come back andtell me.
And that just made me realize that I am in mypurpose.
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I'm in my purpose.
So I love, you know, when you talk aboutintuition and the divine and divine download.
Now everybody doesn't understand what thatmeans.
So explain that to our audience because I justlove that, you know, because, you know, some
women as women, we're intuitive anyway, but ifwe listen to ourselves, if we listen to our
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bodies, we can actually, you know, gatherinformation, and we know what's right for us.
But so many people aren't in touch with that.
So tell us a little bit about how you helpwomen get in touch with that part of them.
So the beautiful thing about how I help womento get in touch with that part of themselves is
by utilizing Ayurveda.
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The beautiful thing about Ayurveda, which kindof differentiates it from Western medicine,
which is what we practice mostly around theworld but definitely here in the United States,
is that it treats you as your own uniqueessence that you are.
So within Ayurveda, there are three main bodytypes or what they're called doshas.
There's vata, pitta, and kapha.
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When you know what you are, then you get tounderstand better why things may be out of
balance within you and how to correct thoseimbalances.
Right?
So for instance, I'm a pitta, which means I'mfull of fire, full of fire.
And, yes, I am full of fire.
But that was one of the reasons why when I havethose four traumatic stress things, your
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digestive system is heat.
It's fire.
At that time, I'm a little kid.
I'm not knowing how to process any kind ofstress.
Right?
And so because I'm full of fire and I was thin,that fire became imbalanced in my digestive
system.
It became raging, so raging that it was burningthrough my stomach lining.
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So once I figured that out, then it was like,okay.
You gotta treat the imbalance, and how youtreat the imbalance is doing the opposite
thing.
So, of course, you have fire, you gotta coolthe fire down.
If you're water or you're full of air, yougotta ground and stabilize that so that it
flows.
If you're full of earth and you get stuck allthe time, you gotta get moving.
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So you need a little heat and a little water toa little air to get you moving.
So the three main doshas, pitta is comprised offire, vata is comprised of air and ether, and
kapha is comprised of earth and water.
So with those elements, I pinpoint for thewoman or the person that I'm working with what
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their predominant dosha is.
And this is another beautiful thing about it.
It's created the moment that little egg insideyour mommy says, yeah, daddy's sperm.
Come on in.
Let's make this baby.
The moment that that sperm enters the egg,that's when your unique essence is created.
And identical twins don't even have the samecomposition or the same dosha makeup.
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Maybe similar, but they don't have the same.
So when you learn what your unique essence is,you can learn how to recognize when you're out
of balance, where you need some adjustments,where you need some additional assistance, and
then you can incorporate things to help bringyour imbalances back into balance.
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Me being intuitive just helps.
I was this little girl that I used to be withmy grandmother and so I can see things.
I can see illnesses, and I just have thisknowing, and it's called claircognizance.
I just know, and I also just feel.
And so, when I was a little girl with mygrandmother, I'd be with her friends.
I'd be like, oh, she's sick, and you're gonnadie.
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And, you know, there's something wrong withyour heart.
You know?
And, she would tell me, you can't tell peoplethat.
But she knew the gift I had because I think shehad it.
She said, you can't tell people that.
So one day, I told her friend something, andshe said, if you do that one more time, I'm
gonna spank your butt.
And so I stopped doing it, but when I became anurse, it really—I mean, I used it throughout
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my life, but when I became a nurse, it reallyamplified because I could see things that the
doctors couldn't see.
And I would tell them, you need to do this testor do this X-ray or let's run this blood test
or no.
It's not the heart.
I think it's an electrical component.
Let's do some, you know?
And pretty soon, it got to be known no matterwhat hospital I've worked at.
If you couldn't figure it out, go ask Rochel tosee your patient.
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And, you know, just following her guidance.
And if y'all can't figure it out together,then, you know, definitely patient.
But I think just that gift, again, we traveldown a path, and sometimes we have a lot of
detours.
Like, my first degree was in communications,then engineering and, you know, electrical
engineering.
And then I became an RN, and then I got an MBAfrom UCLA.
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And then I, you know, became a, like, Ayurvedicnurse practitioner, which I think of as that.
But, you know, it was like all of these toolsor all of this information that I gathered in
my degrees, my various studies in education,have led me to where I am today.
And I utilize all of that, the engineering mindof me, you know, the innovative and being
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creative to be able to see something thatpeople can't see, to have the wisdom of Western
medicine and Eastern medicine and be able tocombine them together.
One of the favorite things I like to do iscreate a detoxification plan because in order
to get rid of all that stuff that we picked up,we gotta detoxify our mind, bodies, and spirit.
And so I love doing that for people because itallows me to cater specifically to their needs
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of what I see, and then the results they haveare amazing.
What did you let you know, because you it's sointeresting all of the different, you know,
ways you've gone.
How did you when you were doing thetelecommunications, how did
that unfold where you, you know, wind up in thehealthcare industry and all of that where, yes,
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I know that you couldn't get a job, but I findit interesting that you started in
telecommunications and learning, then getting adegree in there.
And so what led you to get that degree, and howdid you utilize that within everything?
Because you just mentioned how, you know, eachpiece that's all been part and, you know, we
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have all these detours.
I would love to hear because it's just sointeresting.
Somebody who's in the healthcare industry whostarted out with having a degree in
communication.
So, the communications degree was the firstdegree I got when I went off to college at 16.
I wanted to be a broadcast journalist.
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I wanted to be like a Connie Chung back in the'50s, right?
I worked at this TV station in San Diego.
And when I graduated, I was ready to get infront of the camera, and they told me, honey,
we don't have any positions for broadcastjournalists that look like you.
Well, I had already been married for two years,so I went back up to Northern California.
And my husband was in engineering school, so Iwas like, you know, hey.
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Let me see what I can do.
So I went to engineering school.
I was able to challenge a lot of things, and Igot right in where they were at.
And I was able to graduate, like, in a year anda half with an electrical engineering degree.
And thought I was gonna be that engineer inSilicon Valley, but nope.
And so went back to school and got the nursingdegree.
But what happened was I was actually working asan RN at night at the trauma center, and my
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husband had got a job out of engineeringschool.
This new industry called telecommunications.
And, basically, it was installing phones.
Remember the phones on the wall with the cord?
You hope you had a cord long enough to walkaround the house.
Right?
I remember when they went cordless, but it wasbasically installing the wiring like that for
businesses back in the day.
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And so I wasn't we were passing ships.
I'm coming home in the morning.
He's leaving to go to work.
And so it got to the point where the company hewas working for, the customers only wanted him.
So I said, oh, we can start our own business.
And that's how it came about.
So I started the business.
I said I would stay and work nights, you know,so that we can have benefits and definitely
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have some money to come in to pay the rent andthe cable and the, you know, the bills, the
groceries, stuff like basic stuff.
Right?
But the business took off within two weeks.
We had a very large financial institution thatwas our client.
We became the number one preferred vendor andstill have them as a client today.
We had seven of the big accounting firms in SanFrancisco that became our clients.
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So the business took off.
And I'm still the CEO, a majority shareholderof that corporation.
I still work that business.
But, again, I just think gathering of all thatknowledge and the various components helped me.
Like, you know, starting first of all, goingback to the cousins.
I have to give them props because they reallyprepped this girl to be the queen.
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Right?
But, you know, it just made sense.
I would start a company in a male-dominatedindustry, the first one in the United States,
and also came up against some I don't know whoyou think you are playing in a big good old
boys network.
We're gonna do anything we can to make sureyou're out of business.
We guarantee you're gonna be out of business intwo years.
I was told that at an event when I wasprobably, like, 23 years old.
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And I sat there with my arms crossed because,you know, I'm used to dealing with the males.
And I said to myself, they don't know whothey're dealing with.
Watch me.
Even if I don't like what I'm doing, I'm goingto succeed because now I have to prove to them
that you can't bully a woman because of yourfear.
Right?
And so it was game on.
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And in six years, I took that company to be thetop one in the top 50 women-owned businesses in
Silicon Valley.
But it was, I just said, divinely, the path wasjust lit.
It was it was lit for me, and it was my choiceto whether follow the path of light or to veer
off.
I mean, you know, it's our lives.
Right?
Fortunately, I just followed that path.
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And so here I am, you know, a successfulwoman-owned business for 34 years.
Here I am, the best nurse you could ever havefor emergency room or any kind of medicine for
35 years.
And so I get to say I get to stroke mymasculine side with my telecom business.
All my employees except for one are males onthat side, and then I get to stroke my feminine
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side of my caring, nurturing, compassion,helping women to really understand the value of
taking care of themselves.
So I get to stroke my feminine side and givethe gift back to both, you know, to both
genders or, you know, male and female,masculine and feminine, whatever you identify
with.
Yeah.
I love that you share that because our earlylife experiences really do form us.
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So I'm the oldest and the only girl with fivebrothers.
And I get exactly what you're talking about.
I mean, they and I had mostly a large amount ofmale cousins.
Mhmm.
And this is just a great conversation aboutjust how we build that strong backbone so that
we can be out, in many cases, a male-dominatedindustry and be able to still be able to
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succeed.
And so kudos to you.
So with that, I wanna make sure that we talkabout your book because I feel like the title
of one of your books, it's The Brave, The Bold,The Beautiful.
Is that the
Is that this one?
There well, that one as well.
The Unstoppable, Unstoppable Woman, and then wehave one.
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That well, all of them.
And I love the word unstoppable because you aresomeone who's unstoppable.
But the Brave, Bold, and Unstoppable Women'sSummit, that's what it is.
Okay.
But all of the titles of your books are just arepresentation of just who you are and what you
offer the world, and I just love that.
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So these summits, tell me a little bit aboutthe summit.
So the summits are for women entrepreneurs andprofessional career women striving to get to
the C-suite.
And it really is about building a sustainablebusiness and expanding your empire as a queen.
When you think about some of the mostsuccessful women that are in these top Fortune
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billion-dollar companies.
Right?
They really have learned along the way how tonot only just have a business, but to build a
business, make that business that they'rebuilding sustainable, and then in in you know,
expand their empires.
So the summits came about from, basically, it'smy daughter's fault.
She had heard a lot of my Me Too stories overthe years of her growing up.
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And so in 2019, when all the Me Too storieswere coming out, a lot of those stories were my
stories.
You know?
Got hired because I had pretty legs for a legalfirm.
Had no idea anything about law except for yougo to jail if you're doing crime.
You know what I mean?
And if you you need doing crime, you need anattorney.
Right?
But, I mean, just a lot of those kind ofstories.
And so I was like, okay.
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I've done a lot of things.
I've sat on, you know, board of directors ofvery health care organizations, major health
care organizations in California.
I've served as presidents of women-ownedbusiness organizations.
I've spoken on Capitol Hill three times.
I've done a lot of stuff.
And so I'm like, okay.
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I'm at a point in my life where I wanna embraceand give back to women, striving to be the best
they can be.
So the Brave, Bold, Unstoppable Women summitscame about.
I was holding them in six cities across theU.S.
But the other thing was I relocated fromCalifornia to San Antonio, Texas, the majority
of the time.
And that's Military City USA.
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I realized, I don't see our women veterans.
You see the men, they got them on their truck.
They got hats.
You know, they've got shirts, but you don't seeany women.
Here it is, Military City USA.
Every military base is here.
Why don't we see our women?
Then I looked on TV.
Won't see the women veterans on TV either.
Oh, girl.
When you hear the word veteran, you think of aman.
Like, I have nieces that served in DesertStorm.
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One of my best friends is the first AfricanAmerican female combat pilot.
I have another friend that was a helicopterpilot.
I have ladies that have served, but we do nothear their stories.
So I wanted to make sure that I include theseladies that reached out to our organization in
California.
And the Women Veterans Alliance told me toshare.
I'm like, hey.
I got this event.
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I wanna donate money.
How can I help our women veterans?
Can you tell me what they need?
And she told me it broke my heart.
And so part of the proceeds from the Brave,Bold, Unstoppable Women's Summit goes to
supporting our women veterans to help them havea better transition from military to civilian
life.
It is completely different for the ladies.
They lose their complete support system, andsome of them end up homeless.
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And so in order for me to fulfill my goal or mydream of helping women, we can't leave any
women behind.
So my motto is we can go so much further, evenif it's a bunch of us, than if I do it by
myself.
Yeah.
I might get there faster, but it's like theturtle and the rabbit.
You know, the turtle took his time.
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He covered the bases.
He made sure he had everything taken care of.
The rabbit was just trying to get to the goal.
You know?
And the turtle ends up winning and being moreimpactful than the rabbit.
And so that's what I wanna be.
I wanna be that turtle that embraces everywoman.
If you wanna do something, girl, you don't haveto apologize for whatever it is you wanna do.
Just go out there.
You got a support group, a sisterhood, a brave,bold, and other unstoppable women, and we'll
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lift you up and help you and help you get towhere you wanna be.
We just have to know what you need.
And so that's how the Brave, Bold, UnstoppableWomen's Summit came about, and that's what we
do.
We just share wisdom on how to have a fabulouscommunity, make deep heartfelt connections in
that community, and then learn to collaborateto cover that wealth pillar component so that
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you can have sustainable wealth to pass on toyour family.
So what I love is that throughout your journey,you have found a need and you fill it.
And that's just beautiful.
And so by you allowing your light, you'reyou're being bold, you're being brave, you're
being courageous, and be you know, and anddoing all of the skill sets that you have been
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able to to learn and not just learn, but, youknow, just your accolades are just incredible.
But what you're doing is you're literallyallowing your light to shine in order to give
others permission to let their light shinebecause you're a beautiful example.
How did you become an author on top of all ofthese other things that you do to serve?
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So how I became an author is actually reallyfunny.
I was approached back in February 2010 to havea podcast.
What is that?
Right?
February 2010.
What?
But it was a new thing.
And I don't know how these people found me, butit was this new thing that can have a 30-minute
show.
And so I was like, oh, this would be a greatway to talk about Ayurveda.
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So my first book, "Intro to Holistic HealthAyurveda Style," came from excerpts of that
podcast way back in February 2010.
It became a little best-selling book, and it'sstill available today.
But that began my journey.
Now all throughout my schooling, growing up asa little girl in college, I thought I was here,
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you're such a good writer.
You're such a good writer.
If you can just tighten up the grammar stuff,you'll be a phenomenal writer.
But I just like to write.
I was a little girl that always had a diary.
I still do today.
It's called journaling.
It's the adult word for having a diary back,you know, when we were kids, girls.
Right?
But I've always liked to write.
I have so much stuff written.
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And so it just kinda evolves.
It's like, I need to get this wisdom out.
I need to share it.
It may not be for everyone, but it isdefinitely gonna be for someone.
And I'm just hoping that my words of wisdomhelp them to have a more blissful journey, not
to make the mistakes I made, you know, tocircumvent some of those challenges, to learn
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from others, and to know the importance of thegreatest asset, which is your health and
well-being.
Without health and well-being, we can't doanything.
And back in the day, I had a patient twice.
One time, he came to me when he was diagnosed,and this patient probably was one of the
richest men in the world at that time.
And we just kinda established this bond.
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I kept it real, you know, took good care of himand stuff.
Well, three years later, I happened just to bepulling a shift to keep my license up, and he
came in asking for me, but he was dying thistime.
I happened to work.
I wasn't even assigned to that team, but I gotswitched.
And I walked in, and he gave me this great bighug.
And, you know, he said, I was so happy thatwhen I came in, you're here.
He goes, as you know, I'm dying.
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I'm having some issues.
Everybody around the world knew this.
And he said, I wish I was like you.
I wish I would have valued my health andwell-being, but instead, I valued growing my
company.
I valued being a visionary.
I valued creating new technology.
And I told him that was his gift.
That was his gift to the world.
He said, but I would give all of that up.
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I would give all my money to you if I could beas healthy and well and radiant and sassy as
you are.
And I was like, well, let's just try it.
Let's try this experiment.
But it was so cute.
He gave me this big hug and, you know, may herest in peace, but it was just amazing.
So when he passed away, those words, you know,really stuck.
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Here I was, I was talking to one of the richestmen in the world.
He was my patient.
He came in asking for me, and he left me withthat message.
Why did he leave me with that message?
Why did he come and ask for me?
Why was I working that particular night when Iwould only work maybe once a month at that
time?
Right?
And it was because what I later realized wasthe divine was talking through him to me, and
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the message I need to share with everyone isthat your health and well-being is your
greatest asset.
You can't buy your health and well-being.
This man was dying.
I'm sure if he could've bought his health andwell-being, he would've given up all his money.
Mhmm.
You can't buy your health and well-being whenyou lose it.
And so it's important to pay attention to youand to put yourself first because then when
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you're healthy and well, you can make all themoney in the world you want to as long as you
don't circumvent that and get in your way.
But you can make all the money work in theworld you want to.
And so yeah, it's just a beautiful, beautifulcareer, and it continues even though I'm not in
a clinical setting anymore.
It continues to be beautiful.
I still hear from some patients every now andthen, they'll surf what did you, scroll me, not
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scroll me.
But, anyways, they will stalk me on Facebookand send me—it's cute, though, because I
appreciate it because they're still doing whatI shared with them, and they've expanded and
really are, you know, healthy and thriving.
So this is more of my heart.
So because you shared, you know, just having apatient in that situation, what do you want to
be known?
The queen of philanthropists.
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I want—I wanna be known for—I think I really ama kind, giving person.
I don't always come across that way dependingon a particular setting because that fire is
like a volcano sometimes.
Sometimes she doesn't wanna behave.
Right?
And sometimes she doesn't need to behavebecause she needs to put people in check.
But I just wanna be known for someone thatwants to—wanted to help others to live and have
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their best life.
You know, some people equate having, you know,all the fancy things of driving a Range Rover
and living in the big house in the perfectneighborhood and, you know, having money in the
bank, but they're not healthy and well andthey're not happy.
And then others understand that I'm not—I maybe broke.
I may not have a—I may not even have a car.
I may live in the hood, but I'm happy.
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I would like those things, but I'm happy.
You know what I mean?
I'm flowing.
And so having and living the life of yourdreams is two different things.
Having the materialistic things, yes, it'sbeautiful.
But living it where you wake up and you'rejoyful every single day, you find peace.
You're able to be grateful.
Even if you stub your toe or, you know, you geta ticket, you're grateful.
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Right?
And you appreciate the goodness and all thelessons in people that may cross your path.
Good, bad, or indifferent.
There's a lesson and there's an experiencewe're supposed to take from every one of our
interactions.
And so when you have the life of your dreams,you're able to understand that, embrace that,
and actually, it elevates your health andwell-being even more because you're not
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stressing over the stupid stuff.
Right.
Why?
You already have that, and you're living thelife of your dreams.
Why stress over what so and so says about you?
Who cares what they say?
Who cares?
As long as you live your best life and you'rebeing kind and doing kindness for others and
not being evil and taking away from and beingnasty to others, hey.
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You know what you're supposed to do.
So if our audience wanted to get in touch withyou, find you, what would be the best way for
them to do that?
Guess what?
If they wanna get in touch with me and theycan't find me, it's because they ain't looking.
But I'm on Facebook.
I'm on Instagram.
I'm on LinkedIn.
I'm on X.
I think a little bit of Snapchat.
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I think that's it.
But, you know, I have my podcast.
Of those platforms, are you Rochel MarieLawson?
Is that how they find
it?
I mean, they're gonna be Rochel Marie Lawson orRochel Lawson.
You can Google me.
You know?
I'll pop up.
You'll see my face.
Yeah.
And I'm everywhere.
Now that piece we did talk about, your podcast.
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What are your hopes, because, you know, youstarted doing this in February 2010.
Well, you did a podcast in February 2010, whichturned into a book, and you've been able to now
really be a voice out there in the industry.
So what are your hopes with your podcast as faras your messaging?
What what do you love most about doing that?
I love most about doing the podcast because,again, we talk about the topics of wellness,
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wisdom, or wealth.
Right?
And I've had some amazing guests on there.
I've had, you know, heads of medical schoolsfor very prominent universities, gurus, tech
visionaries, moneymakers, just about some everyjob.
Famous people, famous athletes, famousrecording artists.
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If I said their songs, you would know, youknow, talk about their journey as well.
But it's beautiful because everybody comes witha different message no matter which pillar
we're focusing on.
The messages always contain nuggets of goldthat people listening to or watching us can
take and incorporate in their livesimmediately.
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And it just helps to amplify the wisdom outthere about wellness, wisdom, and wealth and
what we should be doing and how we're meant tolive our lives.
And when you fall in line with that, it becomesbeautiful.
So all my guests, just like I said, they bringnuggets of gold with anywhere from real estate
investment to detoxification.
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Love it.
So I want to just thank you so much.
You have given us so many nuggets.
If there were anything you wanted to leave thisaudience with, what would that be?
So I would say, start your day with anaffirmation and then create an intention for
that affirmation.
Because then you set yourself up with theenergy in the day that is the dominant energy.
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For instance, when you wake up before you evenhop out of bed to go pee, you know?
But when you wake up, when you open your eyes,you can say something like, I'm open to
receiving miracles today.
May my life unfold in a beautiful way.
I intend to do that by smiling at everyone Icome in contact with today, even the people I
don't know.
Okay?
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Something simple as that.
Get up, do your normal routine, get off, dowhatever you need to do for the day.
But because you started the day with anaffirmation and an intention, you will have
moments and opportunities within your day thatwill allow you to remember that affirmation and
to set out and complete that intention.
And so if you do that every single day, everysingle day, not only will you make an impact on
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people's lives that you don't even know about,you'll make an impact on your own life for the
better, and you will have a beautiful journeyas you travel down your path to bliss.
Wow, Rochel.
Thank you so much for that.
I love that.
Setting that intention right when you wake upin the morning before you hit the ground
running, and that is just so beautiful.
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I'm gonna be honest with you.
I feel that everyone who comes into your spaceis blessed and is able to just take that, you
know what I mean, just takes a smile.
Right?
And you're just a woman who's bold, who'sbrave, who's courageous, and I can feel that
just from this podcast and this time that we'vegotten to share and get to know each other.
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So I just want to thank you and thank you forsharing all of this with our audience.
I'm just grateful that you were here today.
Thank you, Rochel.
Thank you for having me.
It's been a pleasure.
I really loved our conversation and, of course,you're adorable.
So yeah.
Thank you.
Recognize queen.
Okay.
I'm a be bad.
But, you know, queens recognize queens, girl,and you're a queen.
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So, of course, I don't recognize that you'rebrave, bold, unstoppable queen.
But it's not that you got caramel-colored skinlike me, and we're luscious and cute and
beautiful, smart and all that stuff.
It's just because you're queen.
So
Let me tell you.
If every woman woke up in the morning and justsaid that to themselves in the mirror, wow.
What an amazing world we would have all aroundus.
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Right?
Yep.
And, you know, that's something that they cando.
But, you know, if you're a woman, you wake up,say, I'm a queen, and today, I intentionally am
going to act like a queen.
I'm a command my empire, whatever it is.
And then get up, go look at yourself in themirror, like, yeah.
Even though you may look all sleepy, I'm aqueen.
A queen.
I'm a queen.
That is beautiful.
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I just thank you so much.
I know that our audience is just truly gonnaenjoy our time together.
And so, again, this is Katherine, your hostwith The Beyond Business Podcast.
We are signing off with Rochel Marie Lawson,and I'm just so excited for you to just reach
out to Rochel and just go ahead and just have achat and, you know, meet up on social media or
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wherever you can find her.
So thank you so much, Rochel.
Thank you.
Okay.
Please stop.
Yes.
No?
We are not.
Are we still recording?
It's stopping.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You can't who do you think you're talking to?
But you know what?
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For one, I think we're strong women, right?
Because we grew up around boys, so you kindaknow how they navigate.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, there's so much stuff I learned aboutdealing with men, or just males in general,
that helps me to navigate.
Like, even when just going out looking for ahoney or whatever.
You know?
I could always tell when somebody was gamingme.
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You know what I mean?
Man, you can't game a gamer.
Right?
You know?
And so, and then just not I think we're not assensitive.
Yeah.
Right.
Yep.
Yep.
Football, whatever.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
It's so you know?
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I'm like, there's nothing that a woman or a mancan do to me that's gonna break me down.
Yeah.
You may stop me for a little bit.
Yeah.
I may need to take some time to recover to getthings together, but you're not stopping me
forever.
Wait a minute.
I'm gonna say you may slow me down as I getthings together, but I'm never going to let
someone external to me, male or female, stop mefrom doing something that, one, I wanna do and
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two, that I know I'm supposed to do.
So and if that means honking in the horn andcussing people out in traffic, I got you.
Found me a ride or die.
There we go.
My love is in New York.
So, you know, I should and people say, youshould've grown up in New York.
They're like, yeah.
I probably should've because I've definitelygot New York flavor for sure.
For sure.
It's the Puerto Rican in me, but I'm not reallyPuerto Rican.
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But people always think so people always thinkI'm Puerto Rican when I speak Spanish.
And I'm like, they're like, actually, when thehair is blonde blonder.
Yeah.
Mhmm.
So my dad was my dad's Sicilian, and then mymom's side is Black Irish, Scottish, Native but
mainly, I wanna say Black Irish, Scottish.
But I, you know, I grew up in San Jose,California.
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I used to be a cholo back in the chola back inthe day.
Heck of a lot of lowriders back in the daybecause San Jose was the lowrider capital of
the nation at that time.
And then my dad, when my dad and my mom gotdivorced, he married a Mexican lady.
And, so I had three Mexican stepbrothers.
But, also, I took Spanish in school.
I took it from seventh grade through twelfthgrade.
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So I know.
I know.
I know.
Right.
I I had friends who are like, I don'tunderstand it.
I mean, I can I can understand?
I can't speak it.
I'm like, well, how do you understand and notbe able to speak?
The beautiful thing was I used it for aboutmaybe eight years when I graduated from high
school.
I didn't really, you know, I wasn't dialoguingwith anybody.
And then when I became a nurse working intrauma and, you know, I was working in the hood
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trauma centers.
It helped because I was able to pick it.
I would say I may not remember how to sayeverything, but I would add, you know,
whatever.
And they'd be like, oh, I'm like and they'd belike, how do you know so much Spanish?
And I'm like, well, I took it in school.
I don't know that much.
But it comes back to places, you know, when Ispeak it more, of course.
And if I have a few shots of tequila, girl,that makes me wanna fight now.
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So I I gotta stay away from this tequila.
You're welcome.
No worries.
No worries.
No worries.
No worries.
Let's stay connected because, if you, like, goto the website, particularly, like, the one
thing you do is go to the website and take thatdosha quiz and then figure out what your dosha
is.
But, yeah, I have stuff on the website.
And then, you know, people can sign up for asession.
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It's called an Ayurvedic strategictransformation discovery session.
But it's a session.
We talk about, you know, what their predominantdosha is, some of the imbalances that they may
have, you know, areas that they wanna change.
And then I give them some guidance on what theyneed to do, what they need to implement,
whether it's business, you know, wellnessversus wealth, whatever, that fits in alignment
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with their unique essence.
And
Well, if you made it to this point, then youmade it to the end, and you are my star.
And I just wanna thank you from the bottom ofmy heart.
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And if you did, please leave us a review onApple Podcasts and Spotify and share this
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See you next week for an all-new episode.
I am Katherine Martín-Fisher, and I helpbusiness owners who have lost their vision
because they're struggling with cash flow,sales, marketing, which also affects their
company culture, by showing them to implementproven systems that increase their revenue by
30% in 90 days, and this allowing them toreignite the passion and that big dream that
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they started with.
So the reason that I started this podcast wasto celebrate businesses who have overcome
adversity and have come out on the other sideof it.
And I want you to know that you are not alone.
Good afternoon.
This is Katherine, your host with "The BeyondBusiness Podcast," and I'm excited to introduce
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you to Rochel Marie Lawson.
And so let's let's just hear a little bit aboutRochel.
Sorry.
She is a dynamic and successful entrepreneur, abeacon of inspiration for women, and a force in
the telecommunications installation industry asthe CEO of All Day Cable Inc, the first
woman-owned minority-owned telecommunicationsinstallation company in the United States and
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the visionary president and founder of BlissfulLiving for You.
Rochel has not only made a substantial impacton the business landscape, but has also touched
the lives of countless women.
How has she done that?
Well, from Silicon Valley top 50 women-ownedbusiness, Rochel has carved her path with
visionary leadership, persistent dedication,and unwavering commitment to her clients'
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goals.
And we are gonna unfold some of this, but she'salso the queen of fabulous, feeling fabulous.
She's also a multiple business owner, RN, AHP,and dream lifestyle transformational
facilitator.
Celebrated author with multiple number onebestsellers on Amazon, and her creation of the
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Brave, Bold, Unstoppable Women's Summit hasbecome a platform for women to unlock the life
of their dreams.
Now I know that that was a lot, but I justfelt, Rochel, that we needed to hear that so
that we understood who we are speaking totoday.
So I'm so excited to introduce you to ouraudience.
Oh, it's a pleasure to be here.
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Thank you for having me.
So you have had many successes and many, Imean, this has been a complete unfolding.
I would love for our audience to hear just alittle bit about how your early life
experiences actually put you where you aretoday and what you're doing and that passion
that you have for what you're doing today.
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So my early life experiences, I would say,definitely trained me for me to be that queen
of feeling fabulous, that bold, unstoppablechick.
Because in my generation of kids, I was theonly granddaughter on both sides of my family.
So I grew up playing with a, you know, ofcourse, a lot of boys.
I have a brother.
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My cousins were back in the day, we all gottogether so much, the families that, you know,
they became they're like your brothers and, youknow, your extended brothers.
Right?
So it's more than cousins or your brother.
You see them all the time, every holiday,weekend, whatever.
And so, being this little girl amongst all thatboy male energy, I was bossy.
I was tenacious.
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If you told me I couldn't do something, I wasalways like, watch me.
I was very tough, but I was a very, very skinnylittle girl, but I was very, very tough.
And so I think just growing up in andparticularly in the neighborhood that I grew up
in, it wasn't the best, so to speak.
It's particularly when I I wanna say when I wasin elementary school.
It wasn't the best neighborhood.
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So there was a lot of things going on that yousee and you just kinda absorb as a kid.
You don't really know what's going on, but youyou learn, you hear, you listen, you know, and
you play.
Right?
And so I think with all of that, me, strivingto be successful, there was no doubt in my mind
that I was gonna be successful.
And I remember being a little girl saying, I'mgonna grow up and I'm gonna be the boss of my
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company and I'm gonna have employees, and I'mgonna be able to work anywhere in the world.
Now this is decades before we even hadcomputers, let alone the Internet.
But I knew one day that I wanted to be theboss, and I wanted to make a lot of money—still
working on that part.
But I wanted to be able to work anywhere in theworld, and I definitely wanted to help people
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that I felt like how I was as a little girl togrow up and be that brave, bold, unstoppable
person as an adult.
So that's how I got here.
That's awesome.
Now you're an RN, but you also do some thingswith your way in which to, you know, whether it
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be healing or modalities and things that youuse.
So I'd love to talk a little bit about that,okay?
And how you were able to navigate that withwhat you were doing
as an RN.
Okay.
So I am an RN.
I've gone on my 35th year of being a licensedRN.
I'm licensed in multiple states.
My background is emergency room trauma medicineand flight nursing.
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Nationally certified as an emergency room nurseand nationally certified as a trauma nurse and
a mobile intensive care nurse.
Anything you can get when it came to my area ofexpertise certification-wise, I got.
And so I've seen the good, the bad, and thevery ugly of, one, when things happen to you
beyond your control; two, when people don'ttake care of themselves; and three, when the
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health care system fails the patient.
And so over that course of my journey of beingan entrepreneur, starting a company in a very
male-dominated industry, my first company, Iactually had a journey with my own health and
well-being where I suffered for 17 years.
And it was through holistic medicine that I wasable to heal myself in nine months after
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suffering for 17 years.
So as a journey, it unfolded for me as anentrepreneur, what I noticed was women, we
always put ourselves last.
I gotta take care of my husband.
I gotta take care of my kids.
I gotta take care of my mom, my dad, my dog, mycat, you know, my auntie, whoever.
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I'll take care of me at the end of the day.
And then at the end of the day, we're too tiredto take care of ourselves.
So we go back to this routine again of takingcare of everybody.
I'll take care of myself later.
It never happens.
And from the result of that, things begin todevelop in us that we start negating.
We don't pay attention to that little pain inyour back, you know, that little nagging
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headache that comes on every day at 3:00.
I realized that in order for women to be ableto not only have the life of their dreams, that
whatever that definition is for you, but to beable to live the life of their dreams, we have
to put ourselves first.
And the priorities for us need to be ourwellness, our wisdom, our mindset, because
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without the right mindset, you can't doanything successfully, and our wealth so that
we can be prepared for retirement as well asleave a financial legacy for our future
generations.
So how do you help women?
You've had quite a journey.
And how do you help to give them thisinformation that you have?
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Like because, I mean, you've had some things goon even with your own health, right?
So let's talk a little bit about that and howyou were able to navigate and figure some
things out for yourself, and how do we helpothers to get this information so that they
understand what to do.
Okay.
So how I was able to help myself?
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First of all, I'm gonna backtrack.
My 17-year journey began, from what they nowhave diagnosed just this year as traumatic
stress syndrome in children.
And what I know as an RN is that wherever yourbody is the weakest, when you're under intense
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stress, that part of your body will beattacked.
So your immune system will not work effectivelyon that aspect of your body.
So for me, I had four very traumaticexperiences that I went through at the age of 8
that set me up for a 17-year journey of seeingprobably 100 physicians in Northern California.
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I grew up in Palo Alto, California, in SiliconValley, and having things done to me at a very
young age because they couldn't figure out whatwas wrong with me.
Lo and behold, on that journey, you know, theywere quick to give me a prescription, which
never worked because you can't you can'tprescribe something if you don't know what
you're prescribing it for.
Right?
So, on that journey, I started as I startedaging, I was introduced into I was very
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competitive.
Remember the girl, like, competing with theboys.
But I was introduced to affirmations andmeditation.
Very simple visionary visualization stuff, but,you know, it was it was really interesting.
And then, during my teenage years, I stoppedeating fast food.
I started, you know, saving my money to getmassages, and I started experimenting with
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herbs and giving myself facials.
I saw I had no acne when I was a teen.
And then my girlfriend started coming over.
I started giving them facials and clearing uptheir acne.
I had no idea what I was doing, but it wasworking, right?
And so over the course of these 25 years, youknow, once I became educated as a Western
medicine RN and had that knowledge behind me,what I realized was two things.
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One, I knew my diagnosis.
And, two, I knew I needed to do somethingbecause I was in excruciating pain every day.
And I had been faking it for so many years thatit was daunting, and I was very tired.
So my normal day started.
I was meditating, and I got this download.
And I say it's a divine download, a DD, so tospeak, like double D's.
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But I got this divine download.
And, in the download, it was things that I havebeen learning over the course of my 17 years,
but it was in a sequence.
And I was at my wit's end, so I said, you knowwhat?
I'm just gonna try it.
I will start writing stuff down.
It was nine steps.
These nine steps became the game changers tocompletely transform my life in nine months.
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I began incorporating the nine steps on a dailybasis.
By week three, I wasn't waking up with painevery day.
I wasn't waking up with so much pain that Iwanted to just stab myself in the abdomen to
let cold air hit my abdomen.
Right?
Mhmm.
Internally.
By week, by month three, well, you know, myskin—I mean, my skin looked more radiant.
Even though I didn't have acne, I kinda hadthis, like, dull, lifeless complexion.
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It became more radiant.
Long story short, by nine months, I wascompletely healed.
No pain, no side effects, no medication.
And here's the bewitching thing.
I knew what I had.
So as a registered nurse, I knew I had ableeding ulcer.
I knew that I had an ulcer that became sotraumatizing to my internal organ digestive
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system that it had not only set up an ulcer andpenetrated through the lining of my stomach, it
began to get to the very, very deep layers.
And so I was having this bleeding occurring inmy stool in various areas that I didn't even
know about, you know, I didn't even know about.
So I had low blood, you know, low hemoglobin,low red blood count.
It was attributed to my menstrual cycle, but itwas attributed to this bleeding ulcer.
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So in nine months, I was completely healed.
The amazing thing was I found out that what Iwas practicing was this discipline called
Ayurveda that had been originated in Indiaabout 5,000 years ago.
And so, of course, I had to go back to school,get an advanced degree in that and I began
incorporating that into everything I do, evenwith my patients, I had an emergency room.
I would have them do meditation breathingexercises, but they would do it and they would
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either get home, go home if they were havingany kind of cardiac issues or respiratory
issues, they would calm down or stress-related.
It was amazing that these patients would comeback to me in the middle of the night because I
worked the night shift and tell me that what Ishared with them changed their life.
And that's when I knew I was onto something.
So I'm here to report to you, holistic medicinedoes work.
You can use it in conjunction with Westernmedicine.
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I have been on no medications probably sincethe age of, what, 15.
I did have to take iron pills when I waspregnant with my children.
But other than that and so that's been, whoo,about well, a long time.
About 50-something years.
I haven't been on any medication in I'll say40.
We'll say 40.
But, it's just amazing.
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And so when I first opened Blissful Living forYou, it opened up as a holistic spa.
And I was I did a treatment.
I do a treatment called the Bliss Therapytreatment, which is really yummy.
And I had clientele, a very exclusive clientelefrom all over Northern California, San
Francisco Bay Area coming to my spa for thesetreatments, anywhere from professional athletes
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to CEO of major corporations in Silicon Valley.
And, and that's when I knew it was a gamechanger.
What I had the little bit of knowledge that Ihad, because there's just still so much I I
need to learn and can learn, but the little bitof knowledge I have helps me to have people
that really are ready to transform theirwellness, wisdom, and wealth to do that so they
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can have and live the life of their dreams.
So was your inspiration to become a nurse, wasthat born because of you having some health
issues, or is that something that's justcompletely separate?
So my inspiration to become a nurse was I'vealways been a caretaker.
I think, again, being the only girl.
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So my brother had very severe asthma when wewere growing up, and he's four years younger
than me.
So whenever we were at a cousin's, auntie's,uncle's, grandma's, you know, house, it never
failed he would have an asthma attack.
And I was the only one besides my mom who knewhow to take care of him.
Okay?
That was just my first instance.
But to be honest, I wanted to be a nurse when Iwas little.
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But as I grew up, I kinda got pushed intobusiness or other things that I was really good
at in school.
So here's the thing.
When I started that telecommunicationsinstallation company, it was because I couldn't
get hired as an electrical engineer in SiliconValley.
Because I couldn't get hired as an electricalengineer in Silicon Valley after interviewing
with every major electronics firm, over 20, whowould tell me, "We would love to hire you, but
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you gotta be working around men your father'sage.
So until we can figure out how to make themcomfortable, we can't hire you yet." This is
the late '80s.
What does a girl from the hood go back to do?
You either go negative or you go positive.
My positive was I went back to school and gotanother degree, which was a nursing degree.
And it just so happens that when I was inschool, I loved it.
I really have a gift.
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I can see illness in people that is not alwaysdetected.
So I loved it.
And when I graduated, the only job—oh, I wantedto be a labor and delivery nurse and deliver
babies, but the only job opening was in theemergency department.
And I got in there, and I absolutely loved itbecause I got to take care of—I got to deliver
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babies in the backseat of cars, the way totaking care of very, you know, our very frail
and elderly people and everything in between.
And I think it was just a rewarding career.
It is rewarding.
But in the essence of that, it allowed me tohelp people that I was able to touch some
lives, and these people would come back andtell me.
And that just made me realize that I am in mypurpose.
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I'm in my purpose.
So I love, you know, when you talk aboutintuition and the divine and divine download.
Now everybody doesn't understand what thatmeans.
So explain that to our audience because I justlove that, you know, because, you know, some
women as women, we're intuitive anyway, but ifwe listen to ourselves, if we listen to our
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bodies, we can actually, you know, gatherinformation, and we know what's right for us.
But so many people aren't in touch with that.
So tell us a little bit about how you helpwomen get in touch with that part of them.
So the beautiful thing about how I help womento get in touch with that part of themselves is
by utilizing Ayurveda.
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The beautiful thing about Ayurveda, which kindof differentiates it from Western medicine,
which is what we practice mostly around theworld but definitely here in the United States,
is that it treats you as your own uniqueessence that you are.
So within Ayurveda, there are three main bodytypes or what they're called doshas.
There's vata, pitta, and kapha.
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When you know what you are, then you get tounderstand better why things may be out of
balance within you and how to correct thoseimbalances.
Right?
So for instance, I'm a pitta, which means I'mfull of fire, full of fire.
And, yes, I am full of fire.
But that was one of the reasons why when I havethose four traumatic stress things, your
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digestive system is heat.
It's fire.
At that time, I'm a little kid.
I'm not knowing how to process any kind ofstress.
Right?
And so because I'm full of fire and I was thin,that fire became imbalanced in my digestive
system.
It became raging, so raging that it was burningthrough my stomach lining.
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So once I figured that out, then it was like,okay.
You gotta treat the imbalance, and how youtreat the imbalance is doing the opposite
thing.
So, of course, you have fire, you gotta coolthe fire down.
If you're water or you're full of air, yougotta ground and stabilize that so that it
flows.
If you're full of earth and you get stuck allthe time, you gotta get moving.
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So you need a little heat and a little water toa little air to get you moving.
So the three main doshas, pitta is comprised offire, vata is comprised of air and ether, and
kapha is comprised of earth and water.
So with those elements, I pinpoint for thewoman or the person that I'm working with what
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their predominant dosha is.
And this is another beautiful thing about it.
It's created the moment that little egg insideyour mommy says, yeah, daddy's sperm.
Come on in.
Let's make this baby.
The moment that that sperm enters the egg,that's when your unique essence is created.
And identical twins don't even have the samecomposition or the same dosha makeup.
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Maybe similar, but they don't have the same.
So when you learn what your unique essence is,you can learn how to recognize when you're out
of balance, where you need some adjustments,where you need some additional assistance, and
then you can incorporate things to help bringyour imbalances back into balance.
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Me being intuitive just helps.
I was this little girl that I used to be withmy grandmother and so I can see things.
I can see illnesses, and I just have thisknowing, and it's called claircognizance.
I just know, and I also just feel.
And so, when I was a little girl with mygrandmother, I'd be with her friends.
I'd be like, oh, she's sick, and you're gonnadie.
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And, you know, there's something wrong withyour heart.
You know?
And, she would tell me, you can't tell peoplethat.
But she knew the gift I had because I think shehad it.
She said, you can't tell people that.
So one day, I told her friend something, andshe said, if you do that one more time, I'm
gonna spank your butt.
And so I stopped doing it, but when I became anurse, it really—I mean, I used it throughout
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my life, but when I became a nurse, it reallyamplified because I could see things that the
doctors couldn't see.
And I would tell them, you need to do this testor do this X-ray or let's run this blood test
or no.
It's not the heart.
I think it's an electrical component.
Let's do some, you know?
And pretty soon, it got to be known no matterwhat hospital I've worked at.
If you couldn't figure it out, go ask Rochel tosee your patient.
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And, you know, just following her guidance.
And if y'all can't figure it out together,then, you know, definitely patient.
But I think just that gift, again, we traveldown a path, and sometimes we have a lot of
detours.
Like, my first degree was in communications,then engineering and, you know, electrical
engineering.
And then I became an RN, and then I got an MBAfrom UCLA.
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And then I, you know, became a, like, Ayurvedicnurse practitioner, which I think of as that.
But, you know, it was like all of these toolsor all of this information that I gathered in
my degrees, my various studies in education,have led me to where I am today.
And I utilize all of that, the engineering mindof me, you know, the innovative and being
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creative to be able to see something thatpeople can't see, to have the wisdom of Western
medicine and Eastern medicine and be able tocombine them together.
One of the favorite things I like to do iscreate a detoxification plan because in order
to get rid of all that stuff that we picked up,we gotta detoxify our mind, bodies, and spirit.
And so I love doing that for people because itallows me to cater specifically to their needs
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of what I see, and then the results they haveare amazing.
What did you let you know, because you it's sointeresting all of the different, you know,
ways you've gone.
How did you when you were doing thetelecommunications, how did
that unfold where you, you know, wind up in thehealthcare industry and all of that where, yes,
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I know that you couldn't get a job, but I findit interesting that you started in
telecommunications and learning, then getting adegree in there.
And so what led you to get that degree, and howdid you utilize that within everything?
Because you just mentioned how, you know, eachpiece that's all been part and, you know, we
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have all these detours.
I would love to hear because it's just sointeresting.
Somebody who's in the healthcare industry whostarted out with having a degree in
communication.
So, the communications degree was the firstdegree I got when I went off to college at 16.
I wanted to be a broadcast journalist.
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I wanted to be like a Connie Chung back in the'50s, right?
I worked at this TV station in San Diego.
And when I graduated, I was ready to get infront of the camera, and they told me, honey,
we don't have any positions for broadcastjournalists that look like you.
Well, I had already been married for two years,so I went back up to Northern California.
And my husband was in engineering school, so Iwas like, you know, hey.
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Let me see what I can do.
So I went to engineering school.
I was able to challenge a lot of things, and Igot right in where they were at.
And I was able to graduate, like, in a year anda half with an electrical engineering degree.
And thought I was gonna be that engineer inSilicon Valley, but nope.
And so went back to school and got the nursingdegree.
But what happened was I was actually working asan RN at night at the trauma center, and my
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husband had got a job out of engineeringschool.
This new industry called telecommunications.
And, basically, it was installing phones.
Remember the phones on the wall with the cord?
You hope you had a cord long enough to walkaround the house.
Right?
I remember when they went cordless, but it wasbasically installing the wiring like that for
businesses back in the day.
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And so I wasn't we were passing ships.
I'm coming home in the morning.
He's leaving to go to work.
And so it got to the point where the company hewas working for, the customers only wanted him.
So I said, oh, we can start our own business.
And that's how it came about.
So I started the business.
I said I would stay and work nights, you know,so that we can have benefits and definitely
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have some money to come in to pay the rent andthe cable and the, you know, the bills, the
groceries, stuff like basic stuff.
Right?
But the business took off within two weeks.
We had a very large financial institution thatwas our client.
We became the number one preferred vendor andstill have them as a client today.
We had seven of the big accounting firms in SanFrancisco that became our clients.
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So the business took off.
And I'm still the CEO, a majority shareholderof that corporation.
I still work that business.
But, again, I just think gathering of all thatknowledge and the various components helped me.
Like, you know, starting first of all, goingback to the cousins.
I have to give them props because they reallyprepped this girl to be the queen.
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Right?
But, you know, it just made sense.
I would start a company in a male-dominatedindustry, the first one in the United States,
and also came up against some I don't know whoyou think you are playing in a big good old
boys network.
We're gonna do anything we can to make sureyou're out of business.
We guarantee you're gonna be out of business intwo years.
I was told that at an event when I wasprobably, like, 23 years old.
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And I sat there with my arms crossed because,you know, I'm used to dealing with the males.
And I said to myself, they don't know whothey're dealing with.
Watch me.
Even if I don't like what I'm doing, I'm goingto succeed because now I have to prove to them
that you can't bully a woman because of yourfear.
Right?
And so it was game on.
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And in six years, I took that company to be thetop one in the top 50 women-owned businesses in
Silicon Valley.
But it was, I just said, divinely, the path wasjust lit.
It was it was lit for me, and it was my choiceto whether follow the path of light or to veer
off.
I mean, you know, it's our lives.
Right?
Fortunately, I just followed that path.
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And so here I am, you know, a successfulwoman-owned business for 34 years.
Here I am, the best nurse you could ever havefor emergency room or any kind of medicine for
35 years.
And so I get to say I get to stroke mymasculine side with my telecom business.
All my employees except for one are males onthat side, and then I get to stroke my feminine
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side of my caring, nurturing, compassion,helping women to really understand the value of
taking care of themselves.
So I get to stroke my feminine side and givethe gift back to both, you know, to both
genders or, you know, male and female,masculine and feminine, whatever you identify
with.
Yeah.
I love that you share that because our earlylife experiences really do form us.
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So I'm the oldest and the only girl with fivebrothers.
And I get exactly what you're talking about.
I mean, they and I had mostly a large amount ofmale cousins.
Mhmm.
And this is just a great conversation aboutjust how we build that strong backbone so that
we can be out, in many cases, a male-dominatedindustry and be able to still be able to
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succeed.
And so kudos to you.
So with that, I wanna make sure that we talkabout your book because I feel like the title
of one of your books, it's The Brave, The Bold,The Beautiful.
Is that the
Is that this one?
There well, that one as well.
The Unstoppable, Unstoppable Woman, and then wehave one.
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That well, all of them.
And I love the word unstoppable because you aresomeone who's unstoppable.
But the Brave, Bold, and Unstoppable Women'sSummit, that's what it is.
Okay.
But all of the titles of your books are just arepresentation of just who you are and what you
offer the world, and I just love that.
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So these summits, tell me a little bit aboutthe summit.
So the summits are for women entrepreneurs andprofessional career women striving to get to
the C-suite.
And it really is about building a sustainablebusiness and expanding your empire as a queen.
When you think about some of the mostsuccessful women that are in these top Fortune
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billion-dollar companies.
Right?
They really have learned along the way how tonot only just have a business, but to build a
business, make that business that they'rebuilding sustainable, and then in in you know,
expand their empires.
So the summits came about from, basically, it'smy daughter's fault.
She had heard a lot of my Me Too stories overthe years of her growing up.
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And so in 2019, when all the Me Too storieswere coming out, a lot of those stories were my
stories.
You know?
Got hired because I had pretty legs for a legalfirm.
Had no idea anything about law except for yougo to jail if you're doing crime.
You know what I mean?
And if you you need doing crime, you need anattorney.
Right?
But, I mean, just a lot of those kind ofstories.
And so I was like, okay.
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I've done a lot of things.
I've sat on, you know, board of directors ofvery health care organizations, major health
care organizations in California.
I've served as presidents of women-ownedbusiness organizations.
I've spoken on Capitol Hill three times.
I've done a lot of stuff.
And so I'm like, okay.
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I'm at a point in my life where I wanna embraceand give back to women, striving to be the best
they can be.
So the Brave, Bold, Unstoppable Women summitscame about.
I was holding them in six cities across theU.S.
But the other thing was I relocated fromCalifornia to San Antonio, Texas, the majority
of the time.
And that's Military City USA.
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I realized, I don't see our women veterans.
You see the men, they got them on their truck.
They got hats.
You know, they've got shirts, but you don't seeany women.
Here it is, Military City USA.
Every military base is here.
Why don't we see our women?
Then I looked on TV.
Won't see the women veterans on TV either.
Oh, girl.
When you hear the word veteran, you think of aman.
Like, I have nieces that served in DesertStorm.
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One of my best friends is the first AfricanAmerican female combat pilot.
I have another friend that was a helicopterpilot.
I have ladies that have served, but we do nothear their stories.
So I wanted to make sure that I include theseladies that reached out to our organization in
California.
And the Women Veterans Alliance told me toshare.
I'm like, hey.
I got this event.
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I wanna donate money.
How can I help our women veterans?
Can you tell me what they need?
And she told me it broke my heart.
And so part of the proceeds from the Brave,Bold, Unstoppable Women's Summit goes to
supporting our women veterans to help them havea better transition from military to civilian
life.
It is completely different for the ladies.
They lose their complete support system, andsome of them end up homeless.
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And so in order for me to fulfill my goal or mydream of helping women, we can't leave any
women behind.
So my motto is we can go so much further, evenif it's a bunch of us, than if I do it by
myself.
Yeah.
I might get there faster, but it's like theturtle and the rabbit.
You know, the turtle took his time.
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He covered the bases.
He made sure he had everything taken care of.
The rabbit was just trying to get to the goal.
You know?
And the turtle ends up winning and being moreimpactful than the rabbit.
And so that's what I wanna be.
I wanna be that turtle that embraces everywoman.
If you wanna do something, girl, you don't haveto apologize for whatever it is you wanna do.
Just go out there.
You got a support group, a sisterhood, a brave,bold, and other unstoppable women, and we'll
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lift you up and help you and help you get towhere you wanna be.
We just have to know what you need.
And so that's how the Brave, Bold, UnstoppableWomen's Summit came about, and that's what we
do.
We just share wisdom on how to have a fabulouscommunity, make deep heartfelt connections in
that community, and then learn to collaborateto cover that wealth pillar component so that
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you can have sustainable wealth to pass on toyour family.
So what I love is that throughout your journey,you have found a need and you fill it.
And that's just beautiful.
And so by you allowing your light, you'reyou're being bold, you're being brave, you're
being courageous, and be you know, and anddoing all of the skill sets that you have been
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able to to learn and not just learn, but, youknow, just your accolades are just incredible.
But what you're doing is you're literallyallowing your light to shine in order to give
others permission to let their light shinebecause you're a beautiful example.
How did you become an author on top of all ofthese other things that you do to serve?
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So how I became an author is actually reallyfunny.
I was approached back in February 2010 to havea podcast.
What is that?
Right?
February 2010.
What?
But it was a new thing.
And I don't know how these people found me, butit was this new thing that can have a 30-minute
show.
And so I was like, oh, this would be a greatway to talk about Ayurveda.
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So my first book, "Intro to Holistic HealthAyurveda Style," came from excerpts of that
podcast way back in February 2010.
It became a little best-selling book, and it'sstill available today.
But that began my journey.
Now all throughout my schooling, growing up asa little girl in college, I thought I was here,
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you're such a good writer.
You're such a good writer.
If you can just tighten up the grammar stuff,you'll be a phenomenal writer.
But I just like to write.
I was a little girl that always had a diary.
I still do today.
It's called journaling.
It's the adult word for having a diary back,you know, when we were kids, girls.
Right?
But I've always liked to write.
I have so much stuff written.
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And so it just kinda evolves.
It's like, I need to get this wisdom out.
I need to share it.
It may not be for everyone, but it isdefinitely gonna be for someone.
And I'm just hoping that my words of wisdomhelp them to have a more blissful journey, not
to make the mistakes I made, you know, tocircumvent some of those challenges, to learn
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from others, and to know the importance of thegreatest asset, which is your health and
well-being.
Without health and well-being, we can't doanything.
And back in the day, I had a patient twice.
One time, he came to me when he was diagnosed,and this patient probably was one of the
richest men in the world at that time.
And we just kinda established this bond.
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I kept it real, you know, took good care of himand stuff.
Well, three years later, I happened just to bepulling a shift to keep my license up, and he
came in asking for me, but he was dying thistime.
I happened to work.
I wasn't even assigned to that team, but I gotswitched.
And I walked in, and he gave me this great bighug.
And, you know, he said, I was so happy thatwhen I came in, you're here.
He goes, as you know, I'm dying.
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I'm having some issues.
Everybody around the world knew this.
And he said, I wish I was like you.
I wish I would have valued my health andwell-being, but instead, I valued growing my
company.
I valued being a visionary.
I valued creating new technology.
And I told him that was his gift.
That was his gift to the world.
He said, but I would give all of that up.
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I would give all my money to you if I could beas healthy and well and radiant and sassy as
you are.
And I was like, well, let's just try it.
Let's try this experiment.
But it was so cute.
He gave me this big hug and, you know, may herest in peace, but it was just amazing.
So when he passed away, those words, you know,really stuck.
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Here I was, I was talking to one of the richestmen in the world.
He was my patient.
He came in asking for me, and he left me withthat message.
Why did he leave me with that message?
Why did he come and ask for me?
Why was I working that particular night when Iwould only work maybe once a month at that
time?
Right?
And it was because what I later realized wasthe divine was talking through him to me, and
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the message I need to share with everyone isthat your health and well-being is your
greatest asset.
You can't buy your health and well-being.
This man was dying.
I'm sure if he could've bought his health andwell-being, he would've given up all his money.
Mhmm.
You can't buy your health and well-being whenyou lose it.
And so it's important to pay attention to youand to put yourself first because then when
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you're healthy and well, you can make all themoney in the world you want to as long as you
don't circumvent that and get in your way.
But you can make all the money work in theworld you want to.
And so yeah, it's just a beautiful, beautifulcareer, and it continues even though I'm not in
a clinical setting anymore.
It continues to be beautiful.
I still hear from some patients every now andthen, they'll surf what did you, scroll me, not
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scroll me.
But, anyways, they will stalk me on Facebookand send me—it's cute, though, because I
appreciate it because they're still doing whatI shared with them, and they've expanded and
really are, you know, healthy and thriving.
So this is more of my heart.
So because you shared, you know, just having apatient in that situation, what do you want to
be known?
The queen of philanthropists.
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I want—I wanna be known for—I think I really ama kind, giving person.
I don't always come across that way dependingon a particular setting because that fire is
like a volcano sometimes.
Sometimes she doesn't wanna behave.
Right?
And sometimes she doesn't need to behavebecause she needs to put people in check.
But I just wanna be known for someone thatwants to—wanted to help others to live and have
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their best life.
You know, some people equate having, you know,all the fancy things of driving a Range Rover
and living in the big house in the perfectneighborhood and, you know, having money in the
bank, but they're not healthy and well andthey're not happy.
And then others understand that I'm not—I maybe broke.
I may not have a—I may not even have a car.
I may live in the hood, but I'm happy.
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I would like those things, but I'm happy.
You know what I mean?
I'm flowing.
And so having and living the life of yourdreams is two different things.
Having the materialistic things, yes, it'sbeautiful.
But living it where you wake up and you'rejoyful every single day, you find peace.
You're able to be grateful.
Even if you stub your toe or, you know, you geta ticket, you're grateful.
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Right?
And you appreciate the goodness and all thelessons in people that may cross your path.
Good, bad, or indifferent.
There's a lesson and there's an experiencewe're supposed to take from every one of our
interactions.
And so when you have the life of your dreams,you're able to understand that, embrace that,
and actually, it elevates your health andwell-being even more because you're not
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stressing over the stupid stuff.
Right.
Why?
You already have that, and you're living thelife of your dreams.
Why stress over what so and so says about you?
Who cares what they say?
Who cares?
As long as you live your best life and you'rebeing kind and doing kindness for others and
not being evil and taking away from and beingnasty to others, hey.
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You know what you're supposed to do.
So if our audience wanted to get in touch withyou, find you, what would be the best way for
them to do that?
Guess what?
If they wanna get in touch with me and theycan't find me, it's because they ain't looking.
But I'm on Facebook.
I'm on Instagram.
I'm on LinkedIn.
I'm on X.
I think a little bit of Snapchat.
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I think that's it.
But, you know, I have my podcast.
Of those platforms, are you Rochel MarieLawson?
Is that how they find
it?
I mean, they're gonna be Rochel Marie Lawson orRochel Lawson.
You can Google me.
You know?
I'll pop up.
You'll see my face.
Yeah.
And I'm everywhere.
Now that piece we did talk about, your podcast.
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What are your hopes, because, you know, youstarted doing this in February 2010.
Well, you did a podcast in February 2010, whichturned into a book, and you've been able to now
really be a voice out there in the industry.
So what are your hopes with your podcast as faras your messaging?
What what do you love most about doing that?
I love most about doing the podcast because,again, we talk about the topics of wellness,
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wisdom, or wealth.
Right?
And I've had some amazing guests on there.
I've had, you know, heads of medical schoolsfor very prominent universities, gurus, tech
visionaries, moneymakers, just about some everyjob.
Famous people, famous athletes, famousrecording artists.
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If I said their songs, you would know, youknow, talk about their journey as well.
But it's beautiful because everybody comes witha different message no matter which pillar
we're focusing on.
The messages always contain nuggets of goldthat people listening to or watching us can
take and incorporate in their livesimmediately.
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And it just helps to amplify the wisdom outthere about wellness, wisdom, and wealth and
what we should be doing and how we're meant tolive our lives.
And when you fall in line with that, it becomesbeautiful.
So all my guests, just like I said, they bringnuggets of gold with anywhere from real estate
investment to detoxification.
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Love it.
So I want to just thank you so much.
You have given us so many nuggets.
If there were anything you wanted to leave thisaudience with, what would that be?
So I would say, start your day with anaffirmation and then create an intention for
that affirmation.
Because then you set yourself up with theenergy in the day that is the dominant energy.
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For instance, when you wake up before you evenhop out of bed to go pee, you know?
But when you wake up, when you open your eyes,you can say something like, I'm open to
receiving miracles today.
May my life unfold in a beautiful way.
I intend to do that by smiling at everyone Icome in contact with today, even the people I
don't know.
Okay?
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Something simple as that.
Get up, do your normal routine, get off, dowhatever you need to do for the day.
But because you started the day with anaffirmation and an intention, you will have
moments and opportunities within your day thatwill allow you to remember that affirmation and
to set out and complete that intention.
And so if you do that every single day, everysingle day, not only will you make an impact on
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people's lives that you don't even know about,you'll make an impact on your own life for the
better, and you will have a beautiful journeyas you travel down your path to bliss.
Wow, Rochel.
Thank you so much for that.
I love that.
Setting that intention right when you wake upin the morning before you hit the ground
running, and that is just so beautiful.
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I'm gonna be honest with you.
I feel that everyone who comes into your spaceis blessed and is able to just take that, you
know what I mean, just takes a smile.
Right?
And you're just a woman who's bold, who'sbrave, who's courageous, and I can feel that
just from this podcast and this time that we'vegotten to share and get to know each other.
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So I just want to thank you and thank you forsharing all of this with our audience.
I'm just grateful that you were here today.
Thank you, Rochel.
Thank you for having me.
It's been a pleasure.
I really loved our conversation and, of course,you're adorable.
So yeah.
Thank you.
Recognize queen.
Okay.
I'm a be bad.
But, you know, queens recognize queens, girl,and you're a queen.
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So, of course, I don't recognize that you'rebrave, bold, unstoppable queen.
But it's not that you got caramel-colored skinlike me, and we're luscious and cute and
beautiful, smart and all that stuff.
It's just because you're queen.
So
Let me tell you.
If every woman woke up in the morning and justsaid that to themselves in the mirror, wow.
What an amazing world we would have all aroundus.
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Right?
Yep.
And, you know, that's something that they cando.
But, you know, if you're a woman, you wake up,say, I'm a queen, and today, I intentionally am
going to act like a queen.
I'm a command my empire, whatever it is.
And then get up, go look at yourself in themirror, like, yeah.
Even though you may look all sleepy, I'm aqueen.
A queen.
I'm a queen.
That is beautiful.
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I just thank you so much.
I know that our audience is just truly gonnaenjoy our time together.
And so, again, this is Katherine, your hostwith The Beyond Business Podcast.
We are signing off with Rochel Marie Lawson,and I'm just so excited for you to just reach
out to Rochel and just go ahead and just have achat and, you know, meet up on social media or
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wherever you can find her.
So thank you so much, Rochel.
Thank you.
Okay.
Please stop.
Yes.
No?
We are not.
Are we still recording?
It's stopping.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You can't who do you think you're talking to?
But you know what?
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For one, I think we're strong women, right?
Because we grew up around boys, so you kindaknow how they navigate.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, there's so much stuff I learned aboutdealing with men, or just males in general,
that helps me to navigate.
Like, even when just going out looking for ahoney or whatever.
You know?
I could always tell when somebody was gamingme.
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You know what I mean?
Man, you can't game a gamer.
Right?
You know?
And so, and then just not I think we're not assensitive.
Yeah.
Right.
Yep.
Yep.
Football, whatever.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
It's so you know?
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I'm like, there's nothing that a woman or a mancan do to me that's gonna break me down.
Yeah.
You may stop me for a little bit.
Yeah.
I may need to take some time to recover to getthings together, but you're not stopping me
forever.
Wait a minute.
I'm gonna say you may slow me down as I getthings together, but I'm never going to let
someone external to me, male or female, stop mefrom doing something that, one, I wanna do and
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two, that I know I'm supposed to do.
So and if that means honking in the horn andcussing people out in traffic, I got you.
Found me a ride or die.
There we go.
My love is in New York.
So, you know, I should and people say, youshould've grown up in New York.
They're like, yeah.
I probably should've because I've definitelygot New York flavor for sure.
For sure.
It's the Puerto Rican in me, but I'm not reallyPuerto Rican.
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But people always think so people always thinkI'm Puerto Rican when I speak Spanish.
And I'm like, they're like, actually, when thehair is blonde blonder.
Yeah.
Mhmm.
So my dad was my dad's Sicilian, and then mymom's side is Black Irish, Scottish, Native but
mainly, I wanna say Black Irish, Scottish.
But I, you know, I grew up in San Jose,California.
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I used to be a cholo back in the chola back inthe day.
Heck of a lot of lowriders back in the daybecause San Jose was the lowrider capital of
the nation at that time.
And then my dad, when my dad and my mom gotdivorced, he married a Mexican lady.
And, so I had three Mexican stepbrothers.
But, also, I took Spanish in school.
I took it from seventh grade through twelfthgrade.
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So I know.
I know.
I know.
Right.
I I had friends who are like, I don'tunderstand it.
I mean, I can I can understand?
I can't speak it.
I'm like, well, how do you understand and notbe able to speak?
The beautiful thing was I used it for aboutmaybe eight years when I graduated from high
school.
I didn't really, you know, I wasn't dialoguingwith anybody.
And then when I became a nurse working intrauma and, you know, I was working in the hood
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trauma centers.
It helped because I was able to pick it.
I would say I may not remember how to sayeverything, but I would add, you know,
whatever.
And they'd be like, oh, I'm like and they'd belike, how do you know so much Spanish?
And I'm like, well, I took it in school.
I don't know that much.
But it comes back to places, you know, when Ispeak it more, of course.
And if I have a few shots of tequila, girl,that makes me wanna fight now.
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So I I gotta stay away from this tequila.
You're welcome.
No worries.
No worries.
No worries.
No worries.
Let's stay connected because, if you, like, goto the website, particularly, like, the one
thing you do is go to the website and take thatdosha quiz and then figure out what your dosha
is.
But, yeah, I have stuff on the website.
And then, you know, people can sign up for asession.
(47:43):
It's called an Ayurvedic strategictransformation discovery session.
But it's a session.
We talk about, you know, what their predominantdosha is, some of the imbalances that they may
have, you know, areas that they wanna change.
And then I give them some guidance on what theyneed to do, what they need to implement,
whether it's business, you know, wellnessversus wealth, whatever, that fits in alignment
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with their unique essence.
And
Well, if you made it to this point, then youmade it to the end, and you are my star.
And I just wanna thank you from the bottom ofmy heart.
I hope that you enjoyed the conversation withtoday's guest.
And if you did, please leave us a review onApple Podcasts and Spotify and share this
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episode with others who may be interested inthis topic.
Also, please feel free to let us know whattopics you'd like to see covered in future
episodes.
Get in touch in the comments or on RocketGrowth social media platforms.
To have conversations with me, my booking linkis in the comments.
See you next week for an all-new episode.
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