WHITE DUDES FOR KAMALA (How to Troll Your Government) - Alex Strenger (THE Bitcoin Podcast) - THE Bitcoin Podcast

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I thought we were simply punching Nazis,

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not trusting them with interstellar travel.
I identify somebody who's had three shots and five boosters.
I would vote for a corpse over Donald Trump.
If women didn't vote, we wouldn't have this mess

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that we're in right now in the White House.
What stuff should I buy, Nancy?
You're the greatest options trader of all time.
I just wonder what stocks I should buy.
Obviously, then it's the tax on unrealized capital gains
because owning private property,
it's a symbol of white supremacy
and our land was stolen from the Indians
and you shouldn't really be allowed to own anything
to be quite honest.
Price controls, they lead to shortages,

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shortages lead to rationing, rationing.
It leads to equity and she put up like thousands
of black men in jail for smoking weed
and kept them in jail after they're sentenced.
Well, go to prison,
if people were to check their white privilege,
go to prison, it's really a rite of passage
in the black community.
And maybe if these greedy corporations
were price gouging so much,
we wouldn't need to have some cheap slave labor
to make goods and provide services

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in order to help make things more affordable
to working class people.
Oh man, now, nothing like an army
of involuntary celibates, right?
Unreal, they're all fucking bad.
They all got vaccinated, but they think they're edgy
because they get to like say a bunch of racist shit
like while hiding behind a frog meme living in mom's basement.
A lot of these like right-wing dickwads
who complain about mafru speech and outrage post
about everything that we've talked about,

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very few of them embrace or discuss any meaningful solution.
And it doesn't mean it's like the permanent solution,
but nobody's even discussing pathways out of like
this new world order that these elites are obviously
trying to shepherd us into
because they're right now working in overdrive
because they know that they're the Catholic church
of the 1500s.
And this is like a last-ditch power grasp
for them to try to stay relevant.
I'm gonna be even more woke and more absurd than you are.

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And I'm gonna share this
so everyone can see how absurd these concepts are.
It's freedom versus tyranny.
And all you gotta do to be on the side of freedom
is to use better money and decentralize your life
as much as possible and just have a close community
that you have people that you trust
and do right by them and that's it.
And then learn how to grow your own food and work out
and eat healthy and don't cheat on your girlfriend
and try to have children.

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Today's modern nation state, today's legacy media
has kind of replaced the Catholic church.
And now that we have an open internet,
legacy media doesn't have the ability
to monopolize information anymore.
And when the church lost that ability
with the printing press, they also panicked
and became super tyrannical and super dictatorial
and really started attacking people
that disagreed with them on everything.
Like they hung Galileo for saying
that their earth was round.

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And that the earth revolved around the sun.
And with where we are right now,
I think this is just an inflection point for us
to actually have like a really prosperous future
if we continue on this path.
So I'm actually optimistic about human beings
and society as a whole as a result of everything.
The best way to fight tyranny is through comedy
and the most effective way to fight these people
is actually not through brute force
but to laugh these people out of relevancy.

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My wife, right?
We're in a polyamorous relationship.
The lover that my wife took is African-American.
And like I've learned so much
about the struggle that people of color go through
as a result of my wife's boyfriend.
Greetings and salutations, my fellow clubs.
My name is Walker and this is the Bitcoin podcast.
The Bitcoin time chain is 860187
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Two days episode is Bitcoin talk
where I talk with my guest about Bitcoin
and whatever else comes up.
Today, that guest is Alex Stranger.
And I hope you enjoyed that little special intro
I put together for Alex.
It felt appropriate.
To quote his website,
"'Alex is a petty cab driver in Austin, Texas
who openly mocks government officials
and establishment figureheads in order to preserve

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and ultimately expand our civil liberties.
He went extremely viral a couple weeks back
for his incredible satirical performance at the DNC
and as a lover of great satire myself,
I knew I needed to get him on the show to shoot the shit.
And trust me when I say there was much shit that was shot."
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Without further ado,
let's get into this Bitcoin talk with Alex Stranger.
["The Fierce Song of the Year"]
Alex, how the fuck are you?
I'm doing great, man.
I'm really excited to be on the TITCOIN podcast.
I thought I was a Bitcoiner,
but after seeing a few episodes
and following you on social media,

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I decided to become a TITCOINer instead.
That's beautiful.
You know what the fucking absurd thing is?
So I chose this whole TITCOIN podcast name
and got the domain titcoin.org,
which was shockingly available.
Fun fact, titcoin.com redirects to meses.org.
So somebody at the fucking Austrian

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Economics Mises Institute was like,
we're gonna buy titcoin.com redirected to our website,
which I just think is hilarious.
But I started it as a joke
and also because I don't like to take things too seriously.
And I think people should be able to have a laugh.
I think so too, especially considering the absurd...
Fuck, why not?
Well, dude, especially the absurdity
of our political climate,
there's nothing to, you know,

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there's nothing else you can do about this.
And dude, I checked my fridge.
There's no alcohol in my fridge.
I feel like a fucking asshole right now, Walker,
because we talked about this earlier.
I had coffee.
I'm literally having coffee.
Instead of booze, I'm having coffee and zen
with a protein shake.
Like when I hopped out,
did you see me when I hopped in there earlier, bro?
Like I hopped in accidentally.
I was like fucking half naked,

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like just going in there to check everything out.
And I'm like, all right,
I guess I made a special guest appearance,
but I went in there and I'm like, all right,
just worked out, gonna go jump in the shower,
gonna get everything situated and ready.
So this is when I get out of the shower,
I'm good to go, everything's working.
And then I'm like, oh, this isn't awkward as fuck.
Let's be honest, you wanted to pop straight
from the shower into the recording.
Just be honest about it, okay?

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Fine, fine.
No, I'm kind of a weirdo though, dude.
Like I edit videos while I'm taking a shit in the toilet too.
Don't we all?
I don't know, no.
Cause so when I went to the DNC, okay,
I'm here because of the video that I made at the DNC
or at the Kamala Harris rally,
where I was a proud white dude for Kamala Harris,
hit on all the talking points

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and nobody knew whether or not I was joking or serious
because these absurd conferences
are sadly mainstream thought in the Democrat party, right?
This is where we are right now, fine, so be it.
It's never been this easy to be average.
It's never this easy to be extraordinary
while only being average, so I'm fine with that, okay?
Cool, whatever.

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But I was staying at this guy's place in Chicago
for a couple of days, right?
And, you know, I didn't really like work out with him
as a host, but like one of the things he was getting,
he got annoyed with, he was like, dude,
the fuck is it, like he was like telling people,
he was like, what the hell is wrong with this guy?
This guy's like editing videos on the fucking toilet
with the sound on.
And I felt really self-conscious about it.
Like I thought it was normal, but apparently like,

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everybody that I talked to there was like, no, dude,
that's really fucking weird that you're just walking around
editing videos in the toilet without putting headphones in
and I'm just like, well.
I think it's weird if you're like bringing headphones
into the toilet, like.
That's what I'm saying, dude, exactly.
Like it makes no sense to me,
which proves the point that we live in a full blown clown
world, that's kind of what I was getting at.
Now, I mean, I do not judge where anyone wants to edit videos.

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And if you want to optimize your time by using some poop
and time to also edit a video, like more power to you.
I do that all the time.
I do my best work on the toilet.
Walker, I do my best work on the toilet.
It's that porcelain throne.
There's something about it.
It really just, it stirs the creative spirits, I think.
There's something about getting the waste out

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and getting the creativity, giving it a channel to come in.
Not that the creativity comes in there,
but you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Well, that was very insightful, Walker.
It's something.
I don't know if it's insightful, but yeah.
No, that DNC video was fucking phenomenal.
I watched it and as a, let's say a self proclaimed

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satirist myself, I saw this and I got,
you had me for probably about the first half of the video.
But then it was, I don't want to say it stopped being good,
but I had a couple little hits where I was like,
oh, it's too perfect.
It's too, but it was so damn believable.

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And I mean, I saw so many people who were just within the,
that went mega viral.
I'll drop some clips of this in the recording
just so people can hear it.
But like you, that was an actual BBC reporter
you were talking to, yeah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Maybe we should back up like first of all, okay.

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Who the fuck are you?
How did you get here today to be making these mega viral
satire videos obliterating clown world ridiculousness?
Let me take my tobacco patch out.
Okay.
Put on a new one too.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
My name is Alex Stranger.
I drive a petty cab in Austin.
I also make rap songs about conspiracy theories.

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And I speak at city council meetings
to expose the absurdity of the clown world
that we're living in because the best thing that you can do,
the best way to fight tyranny is through comedy.
And the only, the most effective way to fight these people
is actually not through brute force,
but to laugh these people out of relevancy, right?
And so I made friends with Alex Stein a few years back.
And Alex Stein actually was the person who told me

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that I should go speak at these meetings too.
I thought what he did was brilliant.
And I actually had a similar idea to do something like this
in 2022, like I would maybe run for mayor
and be like as nauseatingly woke as possible
while doing this.
That didn't happen.
But while those, these imaginations were stirring,
I decided, well, listen, if Alex could do this,
I can do it just as well or slightly worse.

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And this is a really effective way to fight the new world
of returning because it appeals to everybody,
not just people that are like glued onto Twitter
and glued onto X, good on social media.
And so I decided to do this.
And I'm just like, okay, well, instead of like,
instead of talking shit to these people,
it doesn't work because people are so caught up
in their own dogmas that like you cannot,
you can't convince somebody who's voting for Kamala Harris

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at this point that they should go vote for Donald Trump.
You can't.
So instead of trying to like argue with people
which is a waste of time, it's like,
why go through a wall when you could go around the wall
to the other side, right?
So like my view is like, okay, instead of doing this,
I took some improv theater classes a while back.
And one of the corners, don't say improv theater,
is you have to say, yeah, it's yes and yes and yes and

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like that's how you do the scenes, you add to the scene.
So I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna agree with you
until you get sick of hearing your own views,
get regurgitated back to you.
And we're gonna leave the conversation as friends,
you know, and I'm gonna be even more woke
and more absurd than you are.
And I'm gonna share this so everyone can see
how absurd these concepts are.
And then the goal actually is for these people

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if these like liberal politicians are smart
and some of them are getting smarter, like Shane Guger,
I saw his interview with Lex Friedman,
super intelligent, even though there's some disagreements,
he's starting to get it, right?
If these people were smart, they say,
we're not trying to do this shit,
what are you talking about?
We're not doing this at all, these are terrible ideas,
this is not what we wanna do.
All we wanna do is make it so you can afford to go to college

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and afford to eat real food and help the middle class, right?
That's what they should say in responsiveness, right?
It would shut me down completely, like there'd be no purpose
for me to do this, but no, they don't do that.
They shadow ban it, they ignore it and they double down
on these absurd ideas and try to normalize it.
And so I'm like, okay, well, as long as you guys do this,
I'm gonna just keep making these videos
and show how absurd these concepts are.
So like, I'm gonna do this for a couple years.

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I made a few other videos at city council that have blown up.
I've done some fake petitions.
I did one at Texas State about a year ago
where I convinced a bunch of women on campus
to sign away their right to vote.
How did you manage that?
I said, hi ladies, would you like to sign up petition
to abolish the 19th amendment in order to get rid
of women's suffrage?
In order to put an end to women's suffrage.

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And they're like, yeah, sure.
And they'll say, what's that?
And I'm like, well, it's the cause of so many
oppressive systems that we're dealing with, you know?
Because look, look, ever since women have been given
the right to vote, like the value of your dollar
has decreased by like 90 something percent.
We've had endless wars, income inequality
is at an all time high.
Look who's running the country.
You know what I mean?
If women didn't vote, we wouldn't have this mess

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that we're in right now in the White House.
Like that's an actual fact.
Like if you look at the data, right?
So I didn't tell them that, but I brought up all these
like all these woke talking points about, well, look,
look at how bad income inequality is.
Look at the, look at how bad our food is.
Look at, look at the unprecedented level
of cultural division.
And this has gotten exponentially worse ever since
women's suffrage has been implemented.
And we just try to put it into it to create a better tomorrow

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for ourselves.
Fill this signature sheet up in like 10 minutes.
So did a bunch of videos like that, right?
And just know like these videos, they literally expose
like how insane these, these talking points
and this clown rule that we're living in is, right?
And so we're at the DNC right now, right?

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So I decided like last minute, I want to go to the DNC
and make some videos, right?
And the goal for the DNC was to just show firsthand,
well to see firsthand whether or not the enthusiasm
for Kamala Harris is real.
And that was really the goal to just document
that the enthusiasm wasn't real.
It was totally astroturfed.
And so we were at the protest all the like,

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pretty much everybody like probably at least half
of the left wing protesters, oh, let's okay.
95% of these, the protesters that are protesting in Chicago
against what's happening in Gaza,
none of them are voting for Trump, dude.
Like 95% of them would never vote for Trump
in a million years, okay?
All super left-wing, but they're calling Biden,
genocide, Joe, Kamala Harris, killer Kamala Harris,

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all this other stuff, right?
Signs galore, abandon the DNC, abandon the DNC.
You don't know these people who vote all this shit, right?
And so I'm like, okay, well,
you got these people on camera saying that,
how do the Democrats win when half their voting base
doesn't want to vote for them?
A, and then I'm like, well, let's go to the Kamala rally
and see if she's really packing stadiums.
Let's see if this is real.

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I go there, she's packing stadiums Walker.
It's not AI, that's real shit, right?
Yeah.
So I talk to people there and I made another video
where I'm just like, where I pretend to be a white two
for Harris and I'm really excited about Kamala
and I'm just like, you know, guys,
I would vote for a corpse over Donald Trump
and I know you would too.
And Kamala replacing Joe Biden,

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it's not like it's gonna change my vote,
but I'm like so much more excited to vote now, right?
And pretty much everybody said the same thing.
So like all these people there are just,
these aren't new voters, these are just people
that are just more excited to like cast their vote.
And it's scary because this many people
are still brainwashed by DNC, CNN, MS, DNC,
whatever, clown role propaganda, that's a problem.

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It's like Star Wars where it's like, oh shit,
democracy dies with thunderous applause.
You're watching it right now every time Kamala Harris talks
and people clap like seals, it's horrifying.
And so we get into the venue.
My cameraman actually, I owe a lot of credit to my cameraman.
My cameraman, not gonna give you his name
because he like does a lot of Democrat stuff
and he's kind of involved and he's like, dude,

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you can't, I can't be associated with you
because I won't be able to have a job.
And I'm like, well, no, you'll just get a job
in right away, media, don't worry about it.
And he's like, fuck you, I never wanna do that.
But that's fine.
It's good that we're coming together
and we still work together and we get along well
and we rough off each other.
For satire, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he got us, he found braces on the floor

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and we picked up bracelets while we went into the rally
and we wound up getting front row seats
to the fucking Kamala Harris rally.
And we're right at the front row at this rally
and I see a guy from the BBC and I'm just like,
yo, get that camera.
I tell my guy, I'm like, hey, get the camera ready.
And I go up to him like, hey, I wanna do an interview.
I'm really excited about Kamala.
Can I do an interview?
And they're like, yeah, yeah, go ahead.

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And I'm just like, and then they're like,
well, why is he, what about him?
And I'm like, well, yes, that's my cameraman.
He's filming because I wanna document this
because I wanna share this with my friends and my followers
about why it's so important to vote for Kamala
to save democracy and all this other bullshit, right?
And he's like, fine, go ahead, whatever, okay.
And so we filmed ourselves talking to the BBC reporter
and like, instead of going to the protest in Chicago,

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and this wasn't at the DNC,
this was a Kamala rally in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
I had my friend, Chris Don Harris.
He is a really good photojournalist,
really good videographer.
He drove us because he lives in Milwaukee.
He drove us to Milwaukee while we were like,
you know, he drove us to the rally like instead of going to,
like, you know, and then he got back for the protest, right?

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So he drove us there.
And if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't even be there,
but we go there and then I talk to the camera guy
and I'm just like, I just,
everything just hit on all cylinders.
And I'm just like, no, I literally encapsulated
what a typical Kamala Harris voter sounds like.
And it just, I think it hits so well
because everybody understands inherently
how absurd these policy platforms are

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and how like, no matter what the media tells you,
the next four years to repeat
what just happened in the past four years,
like nobody fucking wants that.
And I think it just very much hits home
based on that video.
No, it does.
Okay, there's a lot to pick up on there.
First thing that I would caution against

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is correlation does not equal causation,
which with women's suffrage and this,
I would attribute, I think it's too easy of a cop out
to try and say that, well, you know,
if women didn't have the right to vote,
we wouldn't have these problems.
It's like, fuck, like for men have literally runs,

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like all of civilization except for like the past few years
and we fucked it up pretty damn good.
No, I mean, obviously this is like sad.
Like Richard Nixon, and I know you're satirizing too,
but I just want to make sure for anyone listening
who does not, because I know your satire is too good.
And I know that people are not,
this is the only reason I clarify this.
I want to clarify that Richard Nixon

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is a fucking dick.
His name is Dick Nixon, so it's okay to call him Dick.
Tricky dick, yeah.
Tricky dick definitely has a penis.
He's male presenting, presumably.
And he is one of the major cause of all this.
Also, I'd like to say FDR is a much bigger piece of shit
than most people acknowledge.

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He was the first one to really get us off the gold standard.
If you want to talk about actual decline
in Western civilization in the United States,
get us off the gold standard.
He interned in internment camps,
shitloads of Japanese Americans,
which is just fucking insane,
not to mention his socialist version on communist New Deal.

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And then people treat him like he's some fucking hero.
Now I'm digressing, but just-
I agree with that, no, dude.
And then Woodrow Wilson got the Federal Reserve
to be created too in 1913,
which is another, which you could literally map out
how America's declined ever since,
like through each successive era.
Yeah, no, exactly.
And so again, I know this was satire in your part,

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and I appreciate your commitment to deep satire so much.
But I wanted to make it clear for anyone who's listening
and it's like, what did he just say about women voting?
Like, don't, don't, it's a joke, it's a joke, guys.
It's a joke.
Men, we fuck all the shit up.
But anyway-
There's also a lot of-
Okay. Oh, go ahead.
No, there's also a lot of like people that there's,

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I call it like, well, I don't call,
other people call it like the woke right, you know?
And there's a lot of people who are like actually
on in that segment that generally,
that genuinely actually believe this stuff.
And my view is like the abolished the night,
like in all seriousness, like the whole abolished
the 19th chant is like the right wing version
of the Fund the police.
So I understand it is inherently retarded,

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but it's also like objectively hilarious
because it is also kind of true
that if you look at the voting demographics,
we would have a new president
and these problems that we're dealing with right now,
probably would not be occurring.
Well, again, I would-
They're not there to address-
And I know you're getting me here.
I know you're getting me here again.
You're waking up my wokeness.

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But like that's the thing.
Like, so I famously say much to the annoyance of my wife
because I say it so fucking much.
So I kind of get it.
I'd be annoyed at me too, but there is no red,
there is no blue, there is the state and there is you.
Oh, agreed, agreed, agreed.
Yeah, meaning, and I find the need to clarify this more
and more because some people will be like,

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what do you mean?
You don't see a difference between Kamala Harris
and Donald Trump or you don't see a difference.
What I mean is that ultimately the two-party system
is a false dichotomy that is created to make you choose
between Coca-Cola and Pepsi-Cola
and give you the illusion of choice.
I am not saying that there are not large material differences
between Republican and Democratic candidates,

(21:54):
especially as we get down to lower levels of government,
state, local.
I think that those are actually far more important
and we should get back to a model of governance
in the United States where the federal government
isn't such a bloated, fat fucking,
gerontocratic behemoth.
But that's beside the point, right?
Well, that's also never gonna happen.

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Well, actually, one thing that I saw Trump said recently,
which I was like, huh, that's actually beyond
any of the Bitcoin stuff.
This is the best thing I've heard you say so far
is that he was like, oh, I'm gonna,
Elon suggested a government efficiency council of some sort,
you know, to basically try to cut down the bloat
in government.
And like, if he actually does that, that's great.

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I think the best thing any president could do
is fire as many people as possible
in the federal government.
Like, that is the best thing that we could do
is get rid of the bureaucratic state.
Whether or not that actually happens is a different story,
but like, we've got so much fucking bloat.
But again, I digress here, I digress,

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but you've triggered me so much with your deep satire.
But this is the beautiful thing, right?
Is that what I loved about your video
and the work that you do is that great satire
is, in my opinion, indistinguishable
from ridiculous reality.
Like, when reality gets so absurd

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that you can't tell if something is satire,
that alone is the signal.
That is the signal of how absurd everything is
that so many people watched that video and thought,
yeah, can you believe these fucking Kamala Harris supporters?
They're ridiculous.
Like, you're doing satire and people think it's real.

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That makes it good satire,
because they can't tell the difference
because everything is so fucking stupid.
Like, that's an incredible thing,
but it's also so sad that we're at that point
where you could say those things, which are so insane,
but you probably have a lot of people who watch that
and are like, yeah, no, great points all around.
Yeah, absolutely, white dudes for Kamala.

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You know, like, my mind is boggled.
Like, it's nuts.
No, it is, but it actually makes me like
bullish on humans a little bit,
because I think that what we're doing,
where we're at right now is kind of similar.
Where we're at right now with like legacy media

(24:20):
and the nation-state political system
is kind of similar, I think,
and has many parallels to where we were like
500 years ago with the Catholic Church.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, you know, because like,
all right, so like in the 1500s, right,
like the Catholic Church had a monopoly
of an uninformation, right?

(24:41):
Like, the only way you would get reading material
before the printing press was is that like,
scribes literally had to make books in like these monasteries
that, you know, like making books was actual proof of work
where they did painstaking, backbreaking labor
to like actually make books
and only a very small group of people
who were like lords and noblemen.
Even some lords couldn't even read, right?
Like, the only people I could read were clergy and noblemen.

(25:01):
And so there was a huge consolidation of like power
and wealth and like, you know,
because of like the climate and stuff from like,
you know, 600 years ago, like the 900 to 800s,
like a lot of small farmers had to like literally
basically give up their land
and have the church own their land for them,
because they weren't really sure if they'd be able to eat
or not because of how bad everything was weather wise.

(25:23):
And so you're talking about the mini ice age across,
like, yeah, yeah, which also coincidentally coincided
with global witch hunts, like literal witch hunts.
Yeah.
Because they were like, it's the witches changing the weather.
You know, which is another interesting parallel
to what we have today, but continuous.

(25:45):
Yeah, okay.
So what I'm saying, and I'm not like an expert on this,
I'm just kind of like been learning about this recently.
And it's that as a result of these factors,
the Catholic church wound up gaining its extraordinary amount
of influence because the church wound up buying everybody's
land and just kind of like redistributing whatever they was,
whatever everybody else grew,
so that everyone kind of like got fed.
And then the church just kept the line share of everything

(26:06):
because that's the nature of centralization.
And then they wound up getting like a monopoly of information.
They wound up being like the main source of power.
And then once the printing press came about, everybody,
like a whole lot more people were able to like have access
to information that only a small group of people had.
And so that the people that like the church used to call
heretics and blasphemers and all these and witches

(26:26):
and all these other things now became thought leaders.
Right.
And now they had their own sex,
now they had their own groups.
Now like you started creating,
now we got the enlightenment.
Now we had all these other things that led
to the American revolution that led to modern nation states
that led to work kind of where we're at right now,
that led to a resurgence of art,
led to industrialization, led to technology starting
to like really boom and really created a huge increase

(26:48):
in the standard of living.
And now where we're at right now is basically like,
today's modern nation state, today's legacy media
has kind of replaced the Catholic church.
And now that we have an open internet,
legacy media doesn't have the ability
to monopolize information anymore.
And when the church lost that ability
with the printing press, they also panicked

(27:09):
and became super tyrannical and super dictatorial
and really started attacking people
that disagreed with them on everything.
Like they hung Galileo for saying
that the earth was round.
And that the earth revolved around the sun.
So like I just see a lot of parallels
and I'm sure back in the 1500s,
there were a lot of extremely,

(27:30):
they were probably more stupid people percentage wise
that bought into all that bullshit dogma than people are now.
So like, yeah, okay, even though you're pronouncing
and showcasing like the subscene amount of absurdity
and the fact that this exists in large numbers,
as a percentage, people are way more intelligent,
way more open-minded and way more like thoughtful
and empathetic of other people

(27:52):
than they ever were five or 600 years ago.
So with that being said, and with where we are right now,
I think this is just an inflection point for us
to actually have like a really prosperous future
if we continue on this path.
So I'm actually optimistic about human beings
and society as a whole as a result of everything.
Fucking white pill, I love it.
And I think that's actually,

(28:14):
it's a parallel that I think about a lot.
And we're not, of course, we're not the first
to think of this parallel between the printing press
and the dissemination of information
and the internet and dissemination of information.
And like the problem being with the internet
is like also any tool, of course,
that can be used by people to resist tyrannical rule

(28:37):
can be used by tyrannical rulers to oppress said people.
And that is kind of the black pill
on top of the white pill right now,
is that yes, we have right now more tools available to us.
Like in this fucking, Matt, this thing we call a phone,
which is a computer we carry in our pockets,

(28:59):
we can do more like, fucking, hey,
they were doing stuff by hand to send men to the moon
and we still did it.
Allegedly, I mean. Well, yeah.
And we never landed on the moon and we're fine.
I'm actually skeptical.
Oh, sure.
The moon landing. What's going on?
I have no idea.
I haven't looked into, I have not done my homework

(29:24):
and looked into flatter the way I should have.
But there's very simple tests you can run.
There are extremely simple tests that you can run yourself
in your backyard with a flashlight if you want,
or a laser pointer probably.
And you will see some curvature.
Just getting, or you might need to go to some soft flats.

(29:45):
The moon landing though, Joe,
the moon landing though is a little sketchy.
Yeah, okay, sure.
But like, by the same tokens,
okay, do we think Elon is faking,
is faking his rocket launches right now?
Do we think the International Space Station is fake?
Like the same people who think that the moon landing is fake
generally think that like maybe the earth is also flat.

(30:07):
There is a correlation.
And then those same people are blaming the Jews
for everything. Yes, I understand.
Yes, yes.
Okay, I get all that.
But that being said, we still apparently lost the technology
to go back to the moon after having gone in 1969.
And then you're making phone calls
on a landline to Richard Nixon, you know,

(30:28):
when they landed in space on the moon,
when people didn't even have like game boys back then,
it just seems like odd, right?
And then NASA and the Pentagon got these extreme,
like obscene amounts of funding to do God knows what,
like manipulate the weather, create diseases,
do all types of crazy bullshit.
Like within like a few years after these moon landings

(30:49):
and we're at the height of the Cold War
and we're trying to like,
we're in an arms race with the Soviet Union.
And like there was an obscene amount of propaganda
as a result of the Cold War to justify going
into foreign wars and fading third world countries
for no reason.
So yeah, I could see like,
I could see this being within the realm of plausibility
that maybe this, the moon landing didn't really happen
in 1969.

(31:10):
And then, oh wait, and then, and then, and then,
okay, and then I listened to the press conference
with Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, and Michael,
what was that other guy, Michael something,
I forgot his name, whatever.
And they sounded like they just got back from a funeral.
Like dude, if you went to the moon
and did the most historic thing ever, ever known to man,
you should be like celebrating like you won the Super Bowl
and said you're all somber like you won the,

(31:30):
like you just got back from a funeral.
Like anytime, like these guys would never,
anytime like these guys were asked about this,
they would always get really angry and defensive.
Anytime these people would give speeches,
they would always be really somber and sad.
And like, I'm like, why did you went to the moon?
You should be the happiest person ever.
Like you should be high forever with that accomplishment.
But,
yeah, okay.
It's odd.
What I will say is, wait,
we went to the moon in what, 69?

(31:52):
Yeah, a legend.
Nice.
What the fuck happened in 1971 though?
Like you want to know why we didn't go back to the moon
and like for so long is because we,
and again, oh, shocker, Walker's bringing it back to Bitcoin.
Actually, it makes sense.
Okay, no, keep going.
But really, we absolutely fucked our money

(32:13):
and created an environment where it was all about fake
pseudo materialistic gains that were pushed forward
as actual societal progress,
when in reality, we were creating some of the absolute
worst precedents that we possibly could have
with money, with food, like you talk about fiat food.

(32:35):
Look at all of the corn.
Like why do we have so much high fructose corn syrup
and various seed oils?
Well, it's because like Richard Nixon subsidized corn
massively.
And that's why we had a massive overproduction of corn.
That's like, well, we got to do something with this.
My point being, or I should say the larger point

(32:56):
that I think both of us can agree on
is that the fact that it's plausible
because the government lies so damn much
is really the important thing, right?
The fact that also people,
I think there's a different contingent of people
like maybe younger folks who think like the government sent
like the United States government,
that shit shows sent people to the moon like,

(33:18):
no fucking way, they can't even figure out a website.
Like no, no, like nice try.
Like you're not getting me.
Like I feel like there's like some Zoomers who are like,
yeah, no, there's no way that fucking broke ass government
did that.
And then the head of NASA was an actual Nazi named
Werner Marr von Braun was like Hitler's right-hand man
had Nazi freak scientists.
And that guy's the one in charge of our space program.

(33:39):
I'm like, dude, I thought we were just punching Nazis,
not trusting them with interstellar travel, but I don't know.
It's cool if it's for science apparently.
Yeah.
As long as it's for science too.
As long as they run our intelligence agencies
and tell us to wear masks and get vaccinated
then whatever, right?
Fuck, yeah.
So, you know, I dig this conversation already

(34:00):
because this is gonna be the conversation
of infinite tangents.
And that just feels right.
Other infinite tangent because I also,
I do wanna get back to like your vibes at the DNC
because just speaking of things that seem implausible,
one thing that I find incredibly implausible

(34:21):
is that Kamala Harris went from being
the most like disliked vice president,
like polling, if you believe polls, which I don't know.
Do you believe anything?
Okay, said it aside, let's say you do believe polls.
Like, disliked vice presidents ever,
like historically unpopular.
And then all of a sudden it was like, we're with her again.

(34:44):
And she is stunning and brave
and she is a breath of fresh air.
And actually we're after saying that Joe Biden
is sharp as attack at Infinitum for so long.
We now all somberly acknowledge that Joe Biden
sadly is declining a little bit,

(35:04):
but still not declining enough to stop running the country
just to not run for president again
because he was obviously gonna lose.
But now we are all so behind Kamala Harris.
And like this was, I'll be honest,
an incredible PR campaign.
Like in terms of public perception
or supposed public perception,

(35:25):
an incredible, like credit where credit is due,
an amazing PR campaign to turn her
from the hated cackling vice president
into the one who is, you know,
the change you can believe in, you know,
Barack Obama in female form, like, wow.
It's mind blowing how much the media message

(35:46):
can coalesce so quickly.
And that's always like a flag for me.
It's like, is everyone in every media outlet
saying the exact same thing at the exact same time?
If so.
Like, I don't know, something's weird.
Okay, well Walker, this is exactly why Trump has to win
because this apparatus needs to be destroyed

(36:09):
in order to actually have a functioning,
prosperous society that moves us into the future.
You can't move into the future if you have,
if you're mimicking the same form of leadership
that the Catholic church initiated in the 1400s.
And that's what legacy media is doing right now.
And so if you actually want human flourishing,

(36:29):
if you actually want to get rid of the problems
that these people are identifying,
if you actually want to go to Mars and go to,
and have colonies in space and, you know,
put an end to hunger and have unprecedented
technological advances and, you know,
live in a society where like possibilities for growth
and exploration are infinite,

(36:50):
this system has to be dismantled.
It has to be dismantled,
and it has to be dismantled right now
because if they don't dismantle the system,
they are only gonna become even more emboldened
to not only repress like free speech
and repress like regular human beings,
but they're gonna repress progress.
And if you repress, and like,

(37:10):
the opposite of progress is actually death, Walker, right?
And if you like repress progress,
the only thing that you're accelerating is human extinction.
And so like if you love humanity,
if you love planet Earth, if you love people in general,
I don't even do, like,
I don't even actually have right wing viewpoints
really at all, you know what I mean?
I think my views are very like normal in the middle

(37:32):
and kind of apolitical to be honest.
I just see what's happening.
But if you have like, if you just love human,
if you love humanity, if you love prosperity,
if you love innovation,
if you love being creative and making things
and having purpose,
you have a moral obligation to make sure
that this system that we have right now

(37:54):
is completely eviscerated.
And there's no better opportunity to eviscerate this system
than by getting Trump back in office.
That being said, Trump is not going to save you.
It doesn't mean that you rely on Donald Trump
to do the things that you shouldn't do for yourself.
But the reason that you want Trump in

(38:15):
is to send a very clear and loud message
that this form of communication and this form of governance
and this way of talking to people
and sharing information is just not gonna be tolerated anymore
if you wanna have a prosperous future.
But we had him in office already.

(38:36):
Why isn't the swamp drained?
Oh, he'll never drain.
I'm pushing, I'm just, you know,
I'm gonna kick back on you every time.
Just so you know, like, I'm coming at you.
Great, all right, that's a great question.
Here's how I'm gonna answer that, all right?
You're not voting for Trump to drain the swamp.
You're voting for Trump for a couple things.
One is to send a message that this type of propaganda

(39:00):
doesn't work anymore, okay?
The deep state propaganda of Joe Biden being sharp as a tack
and repeating these points at Nazem
and then going to Kamala is like fearless and stunning
and brave and yada yada yada,
the vaccine safe and effective stand with Ukraine.
You need to send a message that this propaganda
just does not work and it is no longer effective.

(39:22):
That's one reason.
Another reason too is these governments
are getting infinitely more tyrannical
in terms of suppressing, dissenting information.
You could see that when you, with London,
you could see that with France
arresting the founder of Telegram.
You see that with arresting people
for criticizing the British Parliament.

(39:43):
And then you see Kamala openly talk about
how we need to shut down X,
oh yeah, in Brazil, shutting down X too, right?
If Kamala gets in, do not be surprised
if she tries to do something along those lines,
which will make it that much harder
to peacefully segue into a more prosperous future
when it comes to the ability to transmit and communicate

(40:03):
information, right?
So that's another reason why I think it's important
to get Trump in.
Not like Trump's gonna do anything,
but Trump isn't going to stop the,
I don't see Trump stopping this train from accelerating.
Kamala will do everything she can
to stop this from accelerating.
That's one of the things I think that's dangerous.

(40:23):
Another thing too is that I actually,
I think that one of the things that Trump has done
that I really like, because I was not even a Trump person
up until, honestly, I wasn't even,
I wasn't even gonna vote for Kennedy to be honest.
And the only reason I'm gonna choose Trump
is because Kennedy literally gave the green light
to vote for Trump, right?
So I think that it's a good thing that Trump

(40:44):
is at the very least acknowledging
a lot of what Kennedy's saying.
I think a lot of what Kennedy said has rubbed off on Trump
in terms of saying I wanna put Bitcoin on the balance,
on our balance sheet.
I wanna free Ross Albright, possibly pardoning Edward Snowden.
Whether you believe this or not,
he still said on Lex Friedman,
like, you know, I'll declassify the Epstein stuff.
Like, it's good that he's saying that.

(41:05):
It shows that you're aware and listening to people
that are voting for you.
Doesn't mean you'll do it,
but it does show a sense of awareness.
The fact that you're also doing long form podcasts
with Elon Musk, with Lex Friedman, with Theo Vaughn,
that makes your leaders and the people who are governing you
infinitely more accessible to humanity,
which actually decentralizes governments over time

(41:26):
and causes your political leaders to be
way more accessible to the public,
which creates a freer, more open, more prosperous society
where you actually create an environment
for human flourishing, despite the fact
that Donald Trump by himself is actually
extremely unremarkable.
But I think that the steps in which he's,
the steps that he's been taking these past few months

(41:48):
is actually really astute, really intelligent,
and you want this type of behavior to be encouraged,
and that's kind of the main reason.
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Okay, I think I have four things.
First, working back to front.
First thing, I disagree that he is not remarkable.

(43:11):
I think that he is remarkable actually.
I think he is probably the greatest standup comic
of our time.
Okay, yes, he is.
His timing is insane.
He works a crowd like none other.
He does not speak like a politician.
That's why people like him.
I like that too actually.
Like, you know, so I, you know, that is point one.

(43:33):
Point two, RFK endorsing Trump means you're voting for Trump.
I didn't know you let anyone tell you what to do,
but that's just a side point.
That's just me fucking asking.
That's not telling what to do, it's just that like.
I'm kidding, I'm fucking with you.
I'm fucking with you.
Fuck now.
Point three around, let's say, declassifying Epstein files,

(43:57):
pardoning Snowden, pardoning Ross Ulbricht,
which dear God, that should happen.
Trump promised to you would declassify
the JFK assassination files last time he was in office.
He failed to do that because he said,
you know, if you've seen what I'd seen,
you know, there's something to that effect.
I may not be, I'm not gonna put words in his mouth,
but it was something to that effect.

(44:17):
I believe I'm correct on that part.
And so yeah, we'll see if those get declassified.
I think they should be absolutely,
but talk is cheap in a campaign.
He also had the option and was floated to him
at the end of his administration last time
when it costs literally nothing to pardon someone,
to pardon Ross Ulbricht and it didn't happen.
I hope it does.

(44:38):
I truly, I think it's gonna happen.
I think it's happening now.
I truly hope it's free Ross day one,
because that's gonna happen.
It's absurd and cruel and just ridiculous
what was done to Ross Ulbricht.
And like that man deserves to be free.
He has served a lot of time and was punished

(44:58):
two life sentences plus 40 years with no chance of parole.
Are you kidding me?
We let pedophiles out without a full life sentence.
Like give me a fucking break.
That is insane beside the point.
But the other point that I wanted to dig into
a little deeper is the idea of censorship more broadly.

(45:22):
Cause I think this is really important.
And I find it incredibly, I mean, it's to me,
I find many things hilarious.
So I'm just gonna say, I find it hilarious
that all of these self-proclaimed liberal,
liberal, democratic, progressive regimes,
not just in the US, but around the world.

(45:43):
You talk about France with telegram CEO Pavel Durov, right?
You talk about, I mean, name the place,
you can find an example.
People claiming to be, or governments claiming
to be progressive, claiming to be liberal,
claiming to have the interests of the common folk at heart.

(46:04):
And warning against the dangers of authoritarianism, right?
Oh, these fascists, these authoritarian,
we've got to watch out for them.
That's why you have to keep us in power.
Otherwise you'll get fascism and authoritarianism.
But it's like, they're the ones colluding with big business,
which is a fascist proclivity.
They're colluding with big business to try and censor, right?

(46:26):
And those businesses that don't collude,
they get decapitated, right?
They're the ones who are pushing censorship,
which is the most antithetical thing.
Censorship is as antithetical as you could possibly get
to the idea of liberalism, liberalis, free man.
Like that is as opposite diametrically opposed

(46:48):
as you could possibly get.
So I find it just so fucking absurd
that people try to sit on their high horse.
This is leftist politicians.
And I can rip on right wing ones too, don't worry.
But I'm gonna rip on left wing ones right now.
But like they sit on their high horse
and they try to claim, we're progressive, we're liberal.
And they always do this thing too,

(47:08):
which I don't, who decided that politicians
need to do this with their thumb and finger
when they talk?
It's like they're wagging a stick at you,
you know what I mean?
It's like it's better than pointing.
Like somebody was pointing is bad, so don't point.
You should just do this with your thumb
and everything will be fine.
Either way, digression again.
But is that not just the most fucking absurd thing

(47:29):
in the world that you can pretend to be liberal
and then literally be a fucking authoritarian?
But this is also, this is a tale as old as time, right?
Is authoritarians masquerading as liberals, as progressives,
as change makers.
But it's like, but we just have to consolidate power first
and then we'll make the changes,
but just give us all the power.

(47:51):
Like it's the Catholic Church in the 1500s.
That's what they are.
This is the Catholic Church in the 1500s.
That's who they are, I think.
Communicating it through that lens kind of wakes
a lot more people up
and wakes people up who are on the left, right?
Cause if you're a left-leaning person
and all of a sudden you start realizing
that your political apparatus is governing themselves
and acting pretty much identical to the Catholic Church

(48:14):
in 1453, you're gonna say to yourself,
wait a minute, I'm not voting for these motherfuckers.
They literally represent the opposite of what I believe.
That's crazy.
And then these same people are the ones calling
like Donald Trump a threat to democracy.
And look, I don't think he's a savior at all.
I think another reason why I want him to win
and want to vote for him is because I just want,

(48:36):
I'm just kind of like done talking about him.
And what I've noticed is that the left thinks of him
as a dictator and all people on the right,
generalization, Walker, but they think of him as a savior.
And after former years of a Trump presidency,
you're gonna realize that he's neither
and that he's a center-right politician
whose method of communication is gonna revolutionize society
in a very positive way,

(48:56):
but him by himself is not really gonna do
all that much, but it's gonna lay a framework
for a much more prosperous society
just based on the steps that he's taken
by doing open Twitter spaces
and talking about embracing Bitcoin
and doing all these things.
And I think that that's my realistic viewpoint.
And then if Trump were to lose,
he becomes martyred forever.
And then we never stop talking about him

(49:18):
until the day he's dead.
You create this invisible boogeyman.
And that's like a communist playbook
is that these people will always need
an invisible boogeyman to help consolidate power.
Trump being right around the corner
creates that boogeyman for them
to consolidate power forever, which is horrifying.
And that's why he's gotta win.
So that that boogeyman no longer exists.
And that's kind of my viewpoint.
Not to mention that, not to mention the fact that like

(49:39):
people like Nick Fuentes wind up becoming
the new right wing thought leaders,
which literally causes these communists
to consolidate power even more to the point
where you just won't have rights at all.
So.
I remembered, I don't know if it was my fourth or fifth point,
but it was about long form interviews.
Cause I actually think that that's a really powerful thing
that Trump does.
Like sitting down and having these long conversations

(50:00):
that are unedited and unscripted
and it's just a conversation.
It like, you know, it harkens back to the days of like
presidents doing, you know, their fireside addresses,
you know, but it's actually much more real
because there's somebody else talking to them
and asking them questions versus just them being like,
you know, hello America, like, you know, I'm Jimmy Carter.

(50:23):
Like this is not to, I'm not comparing Carter to Trump
very obviously.
But like, I think these are really powerful things,
whether or not you like the guy or not
to be able to sit there and do,
like, long form is like what we're doing right now.
My, you know, I'm slightly smaller
than Lex Friedman's podcast.

(50:43):
Like I think it really,
La la la la la.
Just like a little.
Semantics, semantics, bro.
Just like a little bit smaller than his podcast.
But like those conversations I think are really important
because I think it's also a, it's a rejection.
And this is something that Joe Rogan really was
the pioneer of and got really right.
And folks like Adam Curry, who literally invented podcasting.

(51:04):
He's the Podfather.
He's the Podfather.
God bless the Podfather, man.
Awesome dude.
But like, they figured out that like,
look, people are sick and tired of these 30 seconds,
60 second, five minutes, if you're lucky,
news bites with, I mean, the one exception being
like 60 minutes, you know, because it's 60 minutes.

(51:25):
But even that is super scripted.
That scripted and edited and like, you know,
oh, we didn't like that.
But like doing stuff fucking live
and having these long form conversations,
I think is really powerful because people are,
they yearn for something that is more
than the shallow fucking propagandized takes
that they are inundated with day in and day out

(51:47):
and have been from the legacy media.
And like that's why, like you look at,
not even Joe Rogan, Lex Friedman,
look at like a slightly lower tier than that.
Like somebody like Dave Smith,
who I think is fucking like brilliant dude,
hilarious and like a also great comic,
but also a great podcaster.

(52:09):
He is not on the same level as Rogan and Friedman
in terms of like, you know, if we're talking about
how much his RSS feed is getting pulled,
how many views he's getting on YouTube,
but he's pretty big.
And he's fucking bigger than CNN.
Like he will get more viewership, more downloads,
more listens, more watches on one of his shows

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than CNN or MSNBC or Fox News for that matter,
which is like the one that still has
like the best prime time ratings,
but during their prime time segments,
because it's literally people in airports
and like a couple of boomers at home
who have the TV on for the dogs
that are the only people watching legacy news.
And like that is really powerful.
The legacy media, I don't know why anyone still advertises

(52:51):
on legacy media.
Like that blows my mind.
There's still so much money going into that.
What makes me curious to-
You can't be getting a return on investment.
Like no way.
Well, Walker, what's curious to me is how are these
legacy media companies even still solvent
after these past few years?
Great question.
Like this whole report came out with like Tenant.
Have you heard about what's happening with Tenant?

(53:13):
A bit, but let's educate me more
because I've only got like the headlines.
Okay, I'm in the same boat.
I'm team Cliff Notes right here,
but based on the Cliff Notes,
it's like an independent media company.
And there's all this, the DOG's investigating them
for getting a bunch of money from like Russian billionaires
and getting money from like,
people like some of the hosts are getting obscene

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amounts of money from unknown sources
and those sources claimed one being emissaries
of like a foreign country, which is Russia.
Okay. And this becomes like the big deal.
Like, oh my God, look, Russia's buying,
is influencing our elections again.
Yada, yada, yada.
And again, quote.
Yeah, let's remember the,
yeah, Russia's influencing our elections.

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Okay, you know, but then I'm like, well,
hold on a second, like,
maybe they should have done more due diligence
in terms of, you know, maybe Tim Poole should have like,
done a little bit more due diligence and asked,
why am I getting paid 500 grand in episode?
This is kind of weird.
I should like consult with somebody
and see what's going on, obviously, right?
But that being said,
how much money, like, how does a company like CNN

(54:20):
that's lost so much of its viewership stay solvent?
Right?
How are like these local news outlets,
how are local propaganda, mainstream news outlets
still profitable?
How many people still read the New York Times?
How many people still listen to NPR?
How many people still like, like,
cause I don't know anybody who listens to this stuff.
Like you go on X and the viewer account

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of Tucker Carlson on X was like almost 10,
was 10, 20, 30 fold more than whatever he listened to on Fox.
And that was one of the top listen to shows on network news.
Joe Rogan gets infinitely more views than anybody
than Don Lennon ever would, right?
Like it just seems like, you know,
even the videos I've shared on Twitter on X

(55:01):
have gotten more visibility than certain programs
on mainstream news.
And then if you look at some of these mainstream news
pundits when they tweet or post,
they have like hundreds of thousands of followers
that get barely any engagement.
When Don Lennon was doing interviews outside of CNN,
he was getting like 3000 views.
So it's like, okay, well,
why is there no investigation about

(55:22):
how these guys are still solvent and still functioning?
Like how are they able, like who's paying them?
Who's paying them?
Where's like, what about the corruption
in mainstream corporate media?
Why were the people that are getting paid?
Why are the people, why are half these people in tenant?
Like, well, Lauren Chen specifically,
like she was literally spewing like anti-Trump propaganda

(55:45):
and saying things to get people to not go for Donald Trump
and saying repeal the 19th Amendment unironically for real,
which just makes conservatives look silly and stupid.
But then the DOG and the mainstream media is gonna say
that this is a Trump operation.
And like, no, this is actually an operation
to do the opposite.
And Vladimir Putin has openly said
that he would prefer a Kamala Harris presidency

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over Trump any day of the week.
So it's just, like, it just smells like bullshit to me
because yeah, maybe they should have done better due diligence.
And maybe, yeah, okay, foreign countries put money
into like funding news operations,
but like, whoa, we don't do that in other countries.
Our legacy outlets are totally clean.
Like their hands are totally washed of all corruption.

(56:28):
What about like the people like Nick Fuentes,
as another example, that guy's an obvious federal asset.
If you look at the shit that he fucking spews out,
like, what about-
Those guys, those Gropers are gonna come after you now.
Who goes-
Oh boy.
Oh man, though, nothing like an army
of involuntary celibates, right?

(56:49):
Unreal.
They're all fucking bad.
They all got vaccinated, but they think they're edgy
because they get to like say a bunch of racist shit,
like while hiding behind a frog meme
living in mom's basement.
Yes.
Yeah, it's fucking clueless.
There's the fire.
There's the fire.
I fucking, you know, I'm Jewish.
I can't stand those people,
but I don't want them to like be deplathing or anything like that.
Like, good, let them be online.

(57:10):
Like they're just as absurd as like these,
these libtards on CNN, right?
And it's just the other side of the coin.
But what I'm saying though is that like,
it is impossible that like,
this guy's account is being art,
like some of like Flanus' accounts
being artificially propped up.
It is impossible that someone like that,
that people who are constantly criticized
like shitting all over Israel, every other like,
you know, every other tweet posting 20 times a day.

(57:32):
Maybe like they're not getting paid
by a foreign country too.
Like it just seems so selective, man.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Long rant.
No, no, no.
Again, safe space for rants.
Safe space.
And once again, a lot to unpack here.
Very safe space.
I love that.
But like, I do find it interesting.
I think with, in terms of like the legacy media folks
that on X have like a shocking number of followers

(57:55):
but get an incredibly low amount of engagement,
I think that so much of that is from back when
follower Bot Farming was huge like as a paid service.
And I would not be surprised if every legacy media outlet
paid to have their numbers boosted.
Like, or even you look at something like Time Magazine.
Let me look this up.

(58:15):
Like Time Magazine on X,
I think they have some absurd number of followers
and they'll get like 30 likes in a post.
Hold on, hold on.
I've got to look this up
because Carl and I went down this rabbit hole.
Hold on.
You know what else?
Have you ever gotten down to Bot Rabbit Hole Walker?
Where you see some of these people,
the Bot Rabbit Hole where people post like
insanely absurd device of shit.

(58:35):
And then you click their profile
and they've been active for nine months
and tweeted 40,000 times.
And I'm like, oh, these people aren't even fucking real.
And they're dictating narratives.
Like how stupid do some of these politicians and pundits
have to be to actually go along with this?
Like it's only about engagement farming at this point.
Okay, get this Time Magazine.
And you know what, maybe I'll just show this for people
because this is actually fucking absurd.

(58:57):
Like genuinely insane.
Okay, wait, I'm gonna go ahead and,
oh, fucking, I gotta figure out how to share the screen here.
I never do the screen share.
So boy, this is embarrassing.
But this is actually fucking nuts.
Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba.
Now I gotta find the tab to share.
Okay, now it's gonna make me jump into my other browser.

(59:20):
Hold on.
I got this, I swear.
I swear I got this, you guys.
All right, all right, here we go.
Okay, look at this.
Look at this, 19.3 million followers.
Let me make this a little bit bigger.
19.3 million followers.

(59:41):
Uh-oh, you're not supposed to see my home to count.
Pay attention to the bottom corner.
Okay, 22 minutes ago, one like.
There is 15 likes.
This is 19.3 million followers on Time Magazine.
Find out who the fuck is Carrie Tuna.
I don't even know.
That sounds like a joke.

(01:00:04):
Check out the pin tweet, Walker.
Go to the top and look at the pin tweet.
Oh yeah, okay, 3.4K, okay, you know.
Okay, fine, like Times New Cover 100.
Because this probably got shared again.
My video, dude, my video at the DNC got more engagement
than Time Magazine's pin tweet.
This is two hours ago, it's got 13 likes.
They've got 19.3 million followers.

(01:00:27):
So like three hours ago, 10 likes.
Like this is my point, like, well, okay, one could argue.
Well, that's just because of the fact that XD boosts
links to other platforms.
But no, it doesn't matter because even.
19 million is 19 million, bro.
That's ridiculous, yeah.
That's insane.
So my point being that so, I think so many of these accounts

(01:00:50):
that have been around for a while in the Legacy News
are completely fabricated in terms of their follower counts.
So the follower counts don't actually mean anything.
It's like this old world, you know, badge of authenticity.
Like, oh, well, we're Time Magazine.
So we're the good guys, right?
We'll tell you the truth, we promise.
And then it's like, you know, you go over on Noster

(01:01:11):
and people are like, yeah, don't give a fuck
how many followers I have.
It doesn't matter if you've got, you know, one follower
or 100,000, like you can have something
that goes super viral because it's organically valuable to people.
And I think that that's like, and I know you're on Noster as well.
Like this is, this is where I see like,
it's still a very small user base.

(01:01:32):
But I think that as much as I enjoy X,
and I want to hope that Elon continues to stand by his principles
of free speech, while freedom of speech, not freedom of reach,
as he is himself said, it's still a throat to choke.
Like Elon's throat is still one to choke.

(01:01:54):
I'm not advocating for choking his throat.
I'm speaking metaphorically for the spooks or listening.
But like, that's the beauty of these decentralized protocols
is there isn't a single throat to choke.
You can go ahead and choke one, but more just pop up in its place.
And I think this ends up being the future of media
is decentralizing even more podcasts have already done that to a huge extent.

(01:02:18):
Decentralizing the media landscape.
Social media has done that to a huge extent.
But the problem is that in each of those social media instances,
you still have a centralized platform which still has a CEO in charge.
And that in and of itself is the vulnerability, you know?
Yeah, nobody can get rid of your Noster account because they need your private key.

(01:02:39):
So like, yeah.
Right, right.
So just like, you know, don't send it to yourself in Gmail.
Like, for example.
Yeah, don't send. Yes. I yes. Do not do that. Very bad idea.
Um, but that's another thing too, man.
A lot of these like right wing dick wads who complain about my free speech

(01:03:00):
and outrage post about everything that we've talked about,
none of them actually embrace any sort of media very okay, not none.
Very few of them embrace or discuss any meaningful solution.
And it doesn't mean it's like the permanent solution,
but nobody's even discussing pathways out of like this new world order that these elites are obviously trying to shepherd us into
because they're right now working in overdrive because they know that they're the Catholic church of the 1500s.

(01:03:25):
And this is like a last ditch power grass for them to try to stay relevant.
And I think that once everybody realizes that it's like, okay, there's no don't fight back physically.
There's no need to like there's no point in, um, in, in arming yourself and trying to physically hurt somebody who can't do a pushup.
Uh, it just doesn't, it's, you know,
you should still, you should still arm yourself because it's your goddamn right.

(01:03:46):
Is it right? But I'm saying that like people, the people that talk about revolution and revolting and then all this other crap.
It's just fed posting, right? And it's just right. It's not, it's just not a real effect.
Nice try fed. Like, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Okay. Fed boy. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Tell me, tell me more.
Or fed, fed girl. Like, yeah, we see it through you.

(01:04:07):
Yeah, exactly. All right. Right. So what I'm trying to say though is that like these people that they complain and complaining and playing.
It's like, dude, go on Nostra. Okay.
Like it's, it's obvious that the government is going to like what happened with tenant eventually is going to happen to you at some point in time.
Right. And you don't know when it'll happen to you, but at least take steps to like prepare yourself for when it happens.

(01:04:28):
At least communicate in a way that you're not like, that you're deliberately like not trying to stir anger or division or animosity amongst the public.
Because honestly, there's really no need to, these people are not even that powerful.
They're, their power is all an illusion. And a lot of why people think they're so powerful is because a lot of these right wing commentators give them more power than they actually have because they monetize from this.

(01:04:52):
They profit from this. They're like, Hey, help support us against the fight against the globalists and this and that.
Go boost my platform. Go buy my supplements. Go on my podcast.
You know, we're fundraising to get these same politicians in office to help fight the new order attorney.
And that's not like, all right.
But you don't own any Bitcoin, but like what the fuck?

(01:05:15):
Like, but the only way that you want to get payment, get paid is through Venmo and PayPal. And then you just complain about PayPal shutting you down because you're like, because they don't believe in free speech.
Okay, why are you using them? Why are you fucking using these things and like go use something else? And yeah, I get it. You have to use them now.
But like, we're at the point in time and we're at the infancy stage of this where it's okay to like have Venmo, but also say, Yo, dude, here's my lightning wallet.

(01:05:42):
Hey, man, can you just kind of pay me, pay me with Bitcoin? Here's my cold storage.
Like, let's get lay the frame, like get a framework in place so that you don't have to worry about that.
Like, start paying people with Bitcoin for basic goods and services.
Like, and very few people are doing this. Like, I just got my podcast on the fountain app, you know, because why not have an extra way to communicate?

(01:06:04):
Why not get rewarded for what I'm making?
And instead of complaining about like my post not getting engagement on X, which is totally selective, by the way, it's all about whatever the elites want to be to be the main talking point.
That's why all these Nick Flanders, Jew-hating fucking psychopaths, we're getting boosted so much leading up to the selection because it's a clear fed up to make anybody that to encapsulate people who love freedom and love America with those guys.

(01:06:30):
I mean, anybody with half a brain can see that. So I'm like, okay, well, if I'm not, and I don't want to play the game because I don't need cuckbucks that badly where that's important to me.
I have principles and dignity and use better money regardless. Like, this is not relevant to me.
And you see a lot of people for who they are by selling out and doing all this engagement farming stuff.
But like, dude, if you use a, if you use something like there's no engagement farming on Nostra, you know, it doesn't work, right?

(01:06:53):
Like there's no, you can't communicate on Nostra the way you would communicate on X because people would just be like, man, fuck this guy. This is a waste of time.
You're communicating in the most fiat way possible. This is stupid. We're ignoring you and unfiling you and we don't want to even interact with your posts.
But on X, you get rewarded for just being a degenerate.

(01:07:14):
Like you have people that have millions of followers that make thousands of dollars a week just posting pictures and embedding other people's videos as theirs.
Like, you know, like, I'm kind of, I really like a big reason I want to go on this podcast too is because I want my Nostra to get boosted.
Like I only like, I got like less than 200 followers on Nostra. I want more followers. Like I want to post more on Nostra.

(01:07:36):
I want to have the same type of engagement on Nostra that I have on X because it's a better platform.
And more people should use Nostra because then when the, when they try to choke point alternative media, it becomes that much harder for them to do that.
And then eventually they have to say, okay, well, like we've been exposed so much as tyrants. I guess we got to live with this.
I guess we have to interact with them. I guess now we have to have these open ended dialogues where, where, where we have to let the boot off and give people a little bit more autonomy in terms of how things are governed.

(01:08:07):
We have to have faith in the people that we, that we're lording over. So I just, I don't know, man. It just gets me like, it, it, it infuriates me that these people will complain and complain and complain.
Like these people don't complain and complain and complain and complain. No solution. No attempt to try to solution. Even when you, when you, if I try to put my end pump on X, the, the, the reach gets shadow band. It's ridiculous.

(01:08:30):
Yeah. No, this, I'm, I'm, I'm so glad we went down this tangent as well, this rabbit hole, Alex, because I think this is actually so important because, and this is one of my like big, I guess you could call it a pet peeve.
Or just again, an absurdity that I find funny and also just pathetic is exactly what you've just said, which is that so many of the people that claim to champion free speech, that claim to champion, you know, wanting to, you know, change the way things work, wanting to make things better.

(01:09:04):
It's like, if you're not using Bitcoin as your preferred money and you're not using Noster as your preferred communication protocol, then you're just larping. Like it's as simple as that.
And so like all these people say, oh no, I was, you know, I was banned from this, I was banned from that, you know, okay, go to my Patreon and send me some cockbox.

(01:09:29):
Here's my Venmo, you know, send me some cockbox. It's like, oh, you're just a fucking lark. Like you think you're fucking hard, you think that you're edgy, and like you're literally monetizing your edginess very well, might I say, like, great, you're doing an awesome job of it from just a pure how many
cockbox are you getting perspective? But like, have you no dignity? Have you no actual morals? Have you no actual fucking principles? Do you not actually fucking care about making a difference about making a change? And the answer is, of course, you fucking don't, because if you did care, you would make the change.

(01:10:03):
It's as easy as that. And like, yes, I still I'm, I'm not full Maddo Dell, I respect the hell out of like going full noster, because I, you know, you probably see this on my ex account. I talk about noster a lot. And yeah, a lot of it does get very much
deboosted. But that's fine, because I've had so many people reach out to me via DMs on noster, or just via tagging me on noster saying, Hey, thanks, I saw I saw your post or I saw, you know, your video or whatever, and decided to check this out, you know, really, really glad I did. And like those little things do make a difference.

(01:10:36):
And again, for the folks that are like, if you're, if you think you're on the, the, the, you know, the moral side here, and you're championing free speech, and you're championing, you know, a better system of government and defunding the deep state, but you are not adopting Bitcoin and using noster.

(01:10:57):
Then I mean, again, you're just larking, you're spinning your wheels, you're doing it for show, it's an act. It's an act, and it's not even satire, it's not even funny, it's just kind of pathetic. And so like, I, I think I would hope, I would hope and like, again, some of these folks that are more like influential and have very large

(01:11:21):
followings, it's like, you can tell your followers, Hey, I'm going to be posting stuff on noster. By the way, I say noster, not Noster. I'm just going to throw it out there just so we didn't have a weird moment later.
You know, just wanted to let you know, I identify, I identify the protocol as noster, not Noster, but that's just, that's just me. But no, like you can go and say, Hey, I'm on noster, like you can find me there. I'm going to be posting my completely unfiltered text.

(01:11:50):
Or I'm going to be posting pictures of my cat, or I'm going to be posting pictures of my feet, or I'm going to be posting whatever the fuck I want, because nobody can censor me there. And you should check it out too.
But you don't see them doing this. You don't see any, also like any of the right wing commentators talk about Bitcoin. And it's like, how can you possibly talk about making any sort of substantive change without talking about fixing the money?

(01:12:14):
Like you're just a liar then. And then these fucking assholes will promote shitcoins and meme tokens and affinity scams right at the height of a bull market. Get a bunch of people rug pulled. And then they become even more dependent on CBDCs and the New World Order.
Anyway, it's infuriating, bro. I want to like ring the fucking next fuck these people. It's ridiculous. It's such a fucking thing. You're right. Like that is that is like the extreme.

(01:12:41):
And I've seen a lot of that too. And it's like, Jesus Christ. Like, so you don't actually like this is that is the telltale sign. Like, oh, this is just an act.
You're a fucking grifter. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, you are.
Some of these people I like them and I'm friends with them and stuff like that. And like they share my videos and like, there's all like, there's nice things to be said about them helping to get my visibility out.
But I'm like, bro, you're hurting your own viewers, man. Like, are you really if you're a real patriot, patriot who like loves America, you're like hurting you're hurting your own followers.

(01:13:11):
Like you're deliberately rug pulling and making your own followers poor. And less you specifically say that buying this token is not for you to get rich, but to just help this person promote a cause that they're trying to promote.
Then maybe it's like less horrible, but it's just you're you're deliberately you're doing the bit if you're promoting shit coins and affinity scams, and you're a right wing influencer, you are doing the bidding of the New World Order, and you may as well work for CNN.

(01:13:37):
A fucking man to that. Like, no, really. And that's that's the thing I would, if by some by some chance, some right, right wing influencers end up listening to this, like literally put your money where your mouth is.
I don't mean that metaphorically. I mean that quite literally. I mean, if you are not actively talking about Bitcoin as sound money, and as the separation of money and state, if we do not separate money and state,

(01:14:06):
there is no path to getting rid of this deep state that you rail against constantly. So you're a LARP. You don't want to be a LARP. Do you? Like, because right now you are you don't have to be. You can actually stand for something that is true.
Okay, if you actually care about free speech, if you actually care about decentralized media, why aren't you using NoSTER and why aren't you telling your followers to use NoSTER?

(01:14:29):
Like, and by the way, you can get paid by your followers in Bitcoin in a non custodial way on NoSTER. You don't need fucking Patreon. You don't need fucking Venmo. You don't need any of these fucking fiat, cuck mechanisms by which to get your little cuck bucks.
Like, grow a backbone, like, work out a little bit, make sure that backbone is strong. Like, and you know, I know you're all taking your supplements that you promote to your followers as well as your shitcoins, but like, fucking do something about it that's actually meaningful.

(01:15:02):
Like, it's actually, it's not hard. Like, you can literally just, you can spin up a Bitcoin address as easily as you can spin up a NoSTER end pub. That's kind of the beauty of it, right?
It's not difficult. I'm not a tech-savvy person. It's, it's, it's, and I've been lucky that I've made friends with the people at PlebLab in Austin. And they actually, back in the day, they actually helped sponsor my content a little bit, like a couple years ago, and Kyle Murphy ran it.

(01:15:26):
But they've helped me out with, so, dude, they've helped me do so much stuff and get me like on board with things. They've been like the best, you know?
Kyle at Babylon?
No, Kyle Murphy, who used to run PlebLab.
Oh, sorry. I thought you, sorry, I'm thinking of a different, I'm thinking of a different, different Kyle, but no, that's, that's, well, this is why I love Bitcoiners, right?

(01:15:49):
Because they actually care. Like, actual Bitcoiners actually care. And it becomes very easy. I think, like, when you go down that Bitcoin rabbit hole, if you are sincere about it, you genuinely realize that, okay, all of this left-right dichotomy,
false, you know?

(01:16:10):
It's bullshit. It's all bullshit. It's all about it. So it's not real. Yeah. It's freedom versus tyranny. And all you got to do to be on the side of freedom is to use better money and, and decentralize your life as much as possible and just have a close community that you have people that you trust and do right by them.
And that's it. And then learn how to grow your own food and work out and eat healthy and don't cheat on your girlfriend and, you know, try to have children.

(01:16:34):
That's solid, solid advice all around.
No. And again, like, I'm glad we got on the topic of, of, of Noster, because I think like this is something also if you, you too, like, I'm not, I know you have, you have a YouTube, I'll link it as well. I'll link your Noster.
I have rumble too. Do you not have rumble? Yeah.
I've got rumble as well. And like, I, I, I met Chris, Chris Pavlowski at the Bitcoin conference. Nice dude. I think he recently just left Europe.

(01:17:05):
Yeah, no shit.
Because, yeah, obviously.
But as much as I appreciate what they're trying to do, it doesn't solve the fundamental problem. And I use, I use rumble as well. Right. And I think rumble is at least preferable to YouTube, right.
But there are better solutions. You don't have the reach initially on Noster, right, because it's a smaller network right now.

(01:17:29):
Yeah.
And what I love about it is that especially as a content creator, right, like we both create content, right. And the beauty of today is anybody can be a content creator. You've got a phone, you've got a laptop, like you can create content.
And that's incredible. Like, and you know, get yourself a microphone and wow, baby, you're, you're really in business.
Well, there's a whole economy now. It's the creator economies. It's, it's, it's going to, yeah, we're, we're just getting started with it.

(01:17:52):
If you don't, the problem with these centralized platforms, and especially if you are somebody who is preaching, and I mean preaching in a very positive way, preaching about free speech, preaching about, you know, defunding the deep state.
If you are preaching about things that are going to get you in trouble because the people that run that centralized platform don't like what you're saying, you really need to take a look at Noster.

(01:18:17):
And you should have already taken a look at Bitcoin, but it's not too late. We're still early. But like there are so many tools.
And the beauty of Noster is that with that one end pub, that, that one little string of numbers, you have the ability to actually own your followers, actually own your content and build out a new network that is going to grow as the Noster network grows.

(01:18:41):
Like that's incredible. You have a chance to be a true early adopter in something that has the potential to eclipse every other social network and then some, because it does a lot more than social networking.
Like that's like, and if, if you don't get that, I don't know, send me a, send me a DM on a centralized platform and I'll direct you to Noster.

(01:19:03):
Yeah, it's kind of, it's, it's good that we're talking about this because I think, you know, more people need to understand like why it's valuable, right? Like I think, I think it's very important.
There was something else I was trying to, I was trying to say, let me talk for a while.
Too, too, too many tangents. Too many tangents.
So, dude, so many tangents.
Not enough, not enough.

(01:19:26):
Yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of crazy how so many people will promote shitcoins and affinity scams at the kind of a bull market too, at the worst time ever when, you know, at, at, at literally the worst time ever.
And then the people who buy this stuff because they are, you know, they're desperate to improve their lives because of everything that's happened, they're going to just wind up going into an even deeper hole.
And then they'll just think Bitcoin's a scam.

(01:19:48):
And then when the government comes out their own CBDC surveillance coin, they'll be the first ones to, to adopt it.
And it's, it's, you know, and it sucks because you say this, it's like, it feels like you're just speaking, like you're just shouting into an abyss with nobody wanting to listen to you about this stuff.
And then the stuff that gets the views on X is like when you're doing, it's like doing absurd obscene shit where it's like super provocative.

(01:20:14):
It's you the attention, but then when you're like, Hey man, I want to talk to you guys about decentralized finance.
I want to talk about like opting out of this like surveillance pen optic on that you're, that that we're putting forward.
I want to talk about why it's important to like have real food or whatever it is.
Like it just doesn't get, it just gets like ignored.
And it's just, it's dude, that's kind of why I wanted, like my goal for the recognition I got through this video is I really want to do as many Bitcoin podcasts as humanly possible.

(01:20:40):
Because like I actually genuinely listen and I'm here to fight tyranny.
Like I'm doing this because I don't want to eat bugs.
I don't want to live in a pod and I don't want to have a social credit score.
Okay. Like that's why I'm doing this.
Like I'm not doing this because I want to get paid or make a living.
I actually am very happy driving an adult tricycle in Austin and I just want us to have a good economy and, you know, a prosperous, like a prosperous foundation so that I can continue doing that and have a really amazing quality of life without having to feel the pressure and stress of having to do that.

(01:21:09):
I don't want to have the pressure and stress of having to confront a politician or go to a city council meeting or worry about being on a list or something for God knows what.
And so I like, I'm genuinely doing this because I just want to live in America, right?
And I don't know where I'm going with this, but it's just, it would be nice if more people shared, we're doing this for the same reasons why I was doing this.

(01:21:35):
Amen to that.
And again, you don't have to know where you're going, man, not on this show.
Not a clue.
This is safe space, very safe space.
No, I appreciate that.
And I'm going to, I'm going to blast you out on Noster and tell folks to give you a follow.
And if you're listening to this and you're not yet on Noster, especially if you're, if you're a Bitcoin or already and you're listening to this, like, what are you doing?

(01:21:58):
Like, genuinely, what are you doing?
I get you, it's right now predominantly Bitcoiners on Noster.
And the beauty of that is that it's being developed by people who have an actual open source freedom technology ethos.
It's super powerful.
It's really good.
The one thing, the one thing though is that the purpose of something like Noster is to be an open-ended form of communication where real, we're current events that are in that, that are still relevant to the field world just gets shared in a way that's unbiased, based on accuracy and truth.

(01:22:30):
And when it's only Bitcoiners talking about things that are related to Bitcoin, it, it, it's, it kind of almost dilutes like the purpose of why something like Noster is supposed to be around.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like it's eventually and hopefully sooner it just becomes like a lot of the people, it should be a backup, a very viable backup option for every big content creator on Twitter or on X, who has similar viewpoints.

(01:22:56):
And they should all be using, I really think that they should be using this protocol, not, not, not replace X, but it, they should be posting it additionally and this should be your viable backup.
Like Noster is like, yes, this is your safety.
This is, this is a safe space for Rants.
Noster is a safe space for actual freedom and real discourse and they should treat it that as that and have this as a viable backup.

(01:23:17):
I think that's, that's fucking phenomenal advice and I'm actually working on a piece right now. I call them, I call it a piece because I'm a man of culture who writes things.
Oh yeah.
But I'm working on a piece right now about why every fucking content creator should use Noster.
And like that's the thing. It may start as a backup for you, not for you, but you know, for, for you all.

(01:23:38):
I don't post enough on it. I got to post more on it, but I always feel like I'm like, oh dude, like the stuff I post, like the crowd on Noster, it's all, it's, it's so Bitcoin-y that they won't even care.
They won't even care about like, they won't even find it relevant what I'm posting on Noster.
Trust me when I say, when I say they will. And actually there's a very much a craving for non-Bitcoin related content.

(01:23:59):
I, I, I post a lot. I just post whatever I'm thinking or whatever, whatever I'm seeing, like I see a nice cloud in the sky.
I'm like, fuck, that's a, it's a beautiful day to be alive. That's nice. And like, you know, oh wow, people just sent me sats for that because I just said what I was thinking.
Yeah.
That's actually a beautiful thing. I think is actual unfiltered communication with your peers over a decentralized protocol.

(01:24:23):
Like, because that's the problem with like, and Noster will have algorithms, like, but it'll have a marketplace of algorithms.
You'll have the ability to choose what type of algorithm you want to subject yourself to versus what type of algorithm a centralized platform is subjecting you to because they are making you the product.
Got it.
So, you're the product. But even with those algorithms, it's like, the key for me is choice, right? It's the freedom to choose the freedom to choose how you want to interact with this.

(01:24:55):
And like, I don't know, it's a, we spent a lot of time talking about Noster now, but I think it's genuinely important to talk about and like, that's, like, I want to emphasize again, for folks that are on X on fucking Instagram.
I don't know. I think people are still on Facebook. I don't think it's just boomers. I think there's some non boomers there. Apparently, I don't know. I haven't been on Facebook in a number of years.

(01:25:20):
But actually, that's a lie. Occasionally, I'll check it to see if I missed someone's birthday because that's like Facebook is.
Yeah, I deactivated my Facebook after the first round of BLM riots. I'm like, no, dude, all that was happening is I was just losing friends by posting my COVID takes and how I felt about this.
And I'm just like, if I'm going to post things and I'm like, and I'm not getting anything out of this and I'm just losing friends, I'm fucking done. This is ridiculous.

(01:25:42):
Well, I do see that you are trans vaccinated.
Well, these are, I made these shirts actually. So, so, so I, I forgot to link my Etsy shop and I forgot to link my website.
Dude, it's okay. This isn't live. All this just sends me after I'll link it up. Yeah.
So, so I made these shirts because I'm, you know, part of being trans is you identify as whatever you want to identify as, without fear of judgment.

(01:26:03):
And I identify as somebody who's I identify somebody who's had three shots and five boosters because, you know, nobody should tell you what you should put into your body or what you refuse to put into your body.
And this shirt is really all about inclusion. And if you care about inclusion and diversity and equity and all of these things that that make our country, our country so wonderful that you should buy this shirt to support true progressivism.

(01:26:32):
Amen. Wait, okay. So I'm going to now I'm going to now about face. I'm going to we're going to go a slightly different direction. Speaking of true progressivism. What are your what are your top three favorite things about Kamala Harris?
Man, honestly,
I know you have them. I know you have them. Don't don't lie to me.

(01:26:57):
Are we serious or are we parroting? Are we in character? Are we inferring for the answer to both those questions is yes.
Well, you know, obviously, then it's the tax on unrealized capital gains because, you know, owning private property, it's a symbol of white supremacy and you know, our land was stolen from the Indians and you shouldn't really be allowed to own anything to be quite honest.

(01:27:18):
You know, and then the her the her economic plan to cut prices at the grocery store, you know, I think it's brilliant because look, you know, price controls, they lead to shortages, shortages lead to rationing, rationing, you know, it leads to equity and like also, you know, her act as a prosecutor, it was really remarkable, you know, and like, look, when people say, oh, she put up like thousands of black men in jail for smoking weed and kept them in jail, like after their sentence, well, you know, go to prison.

(01:27:42):
It's if people were to check their white privilege, you know, go to prison, it's really a rite of passage in the black community. And maybe if these greed corporations weren't price gouging so much, we wouldn't need to.
We wouldn't need to have slave cheap slave labor to make goods and start to make goods and provide services in order to help make things more affordable to working class people. So yeah, great. We really need to a lot come off for those reasons.

(01:28:08):
Bravo. Bravo. That was well done. What's the fourth reason though? Fourth, fourth favorite thing? Is it? Wait, can you explain to me what the fuck?
Oh, she's so bright.
Okay, because I saw this and I was like, you mean she's brought like I'm from Wisconsin.
So she loves sauce. She loves to sausage walker.

(01:28:32):
Here we go. But I literally saw this and like being the small town Wisconsin guy that I was like, Brad, like you mean brought like she's into brought.
I hope she's born before she puts him on the girl.
If she bought those brats in a five dollar life, if this is how they have to market her, it's like a literal sign that she is awful.

(01:28:54):
Right. Because if there's never been a politician in history where you didn't market that politician based on what they can do to help Americans, right?
No matter how bad things have been, this is the first time in history where a political candidate for president, front runner has been marketed in a way where their policies are actually we're discussing their policies is actually bad for their campaign.

(01:29:15):
And they've been marketed in a way where you refuse to discuss their policies and just use made up internet language to appeal to low information.
20 somethings.
Yeah, it's kind of insane. It's kind of crazy.
It actually shows like how dystopian and how much devolved we've gone into claddle.
And that's another reason why this cannot this type of behavior cannot be rewarded Walker. That's why she cannot win.

(01:29:40):
Yeah, this is absurd.
Man, it is it is kind of nuts. I will say also.
Excuse me too many too many of these Miller lights that I should have been using to boil my my brats.
But it is kind of insane to me that if you look at the general political discourse, at least in our lifetimes,

(01:30:04):
the key focus is actually never on what the politician that they're trying to get you to vote for, like what Kamala, for instance, what she can do for you, what she believes in what her policies are.
And this isn't just for her. This is for let me clarify. This is for anyone on the right and left.
Hey, Walker, I got it. I got it. Get I got to plug my computer because my battery is kind of running low.

(01:30:28):
You're good. And then I'll finish this really insightful thought.
Okay, go ahead and plug it in.
We're not live, so we're good.

(01:31:02):
We back.
My bad. Sorry about that.
Your apology is accepted. Again, this is a safe space, Alex. It's a really safe.

(01:31:24):
Okay, so what I was what I was gonna say. So what I find absurd is that in our lifetimes, at least I can't speak to before that.
And I could probably go back and watch some videos of it, but I'm too lazy, at least right now, maybe later tonight.
But politicians, when they're campaigning, they do not talk about what they are going to do for you, what their beliefs are, what their values are.

(01:31:50):
They do a little bit short. Yes, a little bit. I'm not going to say absolute. I'm not going to say they never, but they don't talk about what they stand for, what they're going to do, what their actual tangible plans are.
What they talk about instead is why you shouldn't vote for the other guy or gal. And this goes across both sides of the aisle.
And I find that just so pathetic. It's like your own ideas are so weak that what you have to do instead is denigrate your opposition.

(01:32:17):
Because the only way that you're going to potentially win is by making somebody choose the lesser of two evils.
You have to frame it as that, in fact, because you know that you yourself are evil.
Maybe you don't actually know that, but you are. So instead of saying, here's what I'm going to do.
All of that stuff is bullshit and fluff and never actually pans out and it's all campaign promises, right? They don't have to keep them.

(01:32:41):
Like the average politician keeps like 15 percent of their campaign promises, which is pathetically abysmal, maybe lower than that.
But instead they say, well, here's why the other person is so damn bad and will be the end of democracy. I just think that's fucking sad.
Well, what's sad is that you do have viable third parties like Kennedy was an example of somebody who didn't do that and actually gave real tangible policy proposals about why things would be better.

(01:33:07):
And then you wind up getting demonized and pilloried by the legacy media and the political establishment because they are a job as a service propaganda arms for the for the establishment power structure.
Right. It's a Catholic church Catholic church in the 1400s.
Right. You can just make the same reference over and over and over and over again.
And you just saw what they did to RFK and you saw how a lot of people still have a lot of people, you know, when you talked about like, instead of talking about how RFK had a tangible plan to not let BlackRock buy your house.

(01:33:36):
And how he had a really remarkable career as an environmental lawyer going after Monsanto and going after polluters who destroyed the Hudson River and the fisheries out there.
They're talking about him, the bear in Central Park.
Like that's more, you know, it's more important that that's a more important issue for these people to talk about.
Like, how do you reason with these people? How do you have a logical conversation with them about this without wanting to like blow your head up?

(01:33:59):
The only thing you can do at this point is just mock it, mock these guys relentlessly.
Like there's no other like option.
Right. So it's such a good point. I think like, you know, I didn't agree with RFK and everything. And of course I shouldn't.
Right.
You shouldn't.
Because it's a politician like you should agree with the politician on everything you're in a cult. You're in a fucking cult and you have a problem.

(01:34:20):
Like you're fucking stupid. You're either stupid or you are completely brainwashed or both.
If you agree with the politician on everything they say, you should disagree. You should have problems.
But I thought a lot of the things he said were actually pretty well thought out.
And he actually has a very strong grasp of history and of the history of corruption in our country.

(01:34:41):
And the fact that what's interesting is I think that the fact that he did drop out, what it tells you is that he knew that he was going to steal more vote.
Okay. I also, I shouldn't use this word steal votes away because that's what they always say about independence.
Right. They always say they stole votes. So excuse me for saying that.
I think that more people, if RFK did not was not in the race, there are more people that would have voted for RFK who would have otherwise voted for Trump than there are that would have voted for Kamala.

(01:35:12):
Yes, I agree.
Kamala. Excuse me. I don't mean, I don't mean to, to miss.
They get so triggered when you do that. It's hilarious.
I make a point. I speak very purposefully just to just to make sure that they can't get that.
Yeah. Yeah. But, but no, I, so I think that, that tells you something that it's like he understood.

(01:35:33):
And I think he's still staying in a lot of states. Like he's not off the ballot.
He's just not going to run in battleground states. And it's also absurd that our election comes down to like a couple of states that are quote swing states.
And it's like, you know, the problem here is that the federal government is too fucking powerful.
We shouldn't have to care this much about federal elections. That shouldn't be the case.

(01:35:55):
We should care a lot about state and local elections. You should care more about the local election for your mayor than you do about the president.
That, that is the issue here. You should care more about what's happening in your community than what happens at the national level, because what happens at the national level shouldn't be able to fucking matter that much.
But it does. And that's the place that we're at.
It's, it's very sad. It just, well, we have a generation of low information voters and, you know, you know, logic and reason and pragmatic thought cannot apply to people who have just been far gone consumed by poison shots, fiat food.

(01:36:34):
And then, you know, generalization of your single parent households being raised by this demonic apparatus of television raised by raised off a tick tock raised off consuming like cultural slop.
Like a lot of people when that that's been your life from day one.
While the money's been degrading at an obscene pace which is degrading everything else which is exasperating it's like going down in the roller coaster, you know, making it accelerate the farther and faster you go down.

(01:37:02):
It's obvious that many of these people are not capable of reason. You have to be actually thankful to God and feel super blessed that you're even able to like have like in this clown world for us to have our sanity and talk about this logically and be able to actually live relatively prosperously.
Like I joined Tri School for a living. I have a middle class life. Like I'm so blessed and thankful for that. Like, even for me to be talking to you on this podcast, right?

(01:37:24):
Or for me to have had this video that got shared by so many people on how these really influential accounts like blow my stuff up. And the fact that we're even having this discussion, I'm able to even share my thoughts is going to get broadcasted to a large audience.
Like that's like unbelievable. Like I'm so like blessed and happy about that.
But the point is a lot of people like are not don't break that wall, right? They're never going to really break it. And the more consumed you are in this apparatus, the harder it is to break that.

(01:37:48):
And so like the only way out is, you know, and the more guarded they become humor and jokes and comedy is how you kind of break people's walls and help people kind of see like what's going on.
Right. So I think that it's just like the only thing that you can do to really convince people and it doesn't happen over and over again, right?
You'll never convince the hardcore Kamala supporter to go vote for Trump. Who cares if you get it on video and you do a good job of mocking these ideas.

(01:38:14):
Well, maybe you'll convince five people who are on the fence, maybe out of the 10 Kamala voters who see that video, maybe one or two of them will decide that maybe they just won't vote this election.
And so I think I look at it from that perspective. It's a game of inches and you're not, your goal is not to change everybody's mind.
Your goals just be genuine with how you communicate so people can empathize and understand where you are. And that just creates better dialogue going forward.

(01:38:38):
Fuck man. Amen. My one problem with what you just said is it's pronounced Kamala. It's pronounced Kamala. So just please, if you could, I mean, now I'm not worried you might be doing it on purpose.
And I find it, I find it highly offensive and a bit triggering. But no, real real talk. That was real talk also. I find it very triggering.

(01:38:59):
But I think that's a fucking beautiful point. And I think that again, this is why the show is called the Bitcoin podcast, also TIT coin podcast, also just TIT coin, because we need to remember that like humor is what they cannot take away from us unless we let them.

(01:39:20):
My lovely wife, Carla, her family escaped communism. And one thing that her dad always tells me because I find that they have so many jokes that they tell like they like an encyclopedic knowledge of jokes that they can just rattle off for every situation possible.
And I asked him once I was like, how do you all know so many jokes that are like really good jokes, like amazing punch lines like these are these are good setups, they're good leads, they're good punch lines like they fucking hit.

(01:39:50):
I'm like, how do you know so many of these is like Walker. In communism, they took everything from us. They couldn't take our humor. All that we had were jokes, and we had nothing to give each other when we saw each other in the street.
So whenever you met a friend in the street, you gave them a joke, because that's all you had. And I was like, fuck, that kind of makes me cry. But like that's also so beautiful and powerful, like humor is the thing they cannot take away from you.

(01:40:14):
They cannot strip that from you unless you let them unless you become this sterile castrated being. So like, don't be afraid to fucking laugh. Don't be afraid to make fun of the establishment.
There's a reason the court jester existed and was like the one person who was kind of immune from getting beheaded by the king, right? It's because people realize that you needed humor to be able to ridicule those in power.

(01:40:37):
And if you didn't have that, you were truly powerless.
Yeah, amen to that 1000%. And also, we better make these jokes and mock these people now while we still, you know, while we still haven't, while we still actually can eat and have a house and not have to live in pods and eat crickets for sustenance.
Yeah, fuck the pods, fuck the crickets.

(01:41:00):
Fuck all of that. Yeah, sustainable development, fucking bullshit, fuck that.
Yeah, they take their private jets to climate summits. It's absurd.
You know, we're gonna need to do another one of these, Alex, you know that, right?
Absolutely, yeah. When are you in Austin?
That's a great question. When should I be in Austin?

(01:41:21):
Whenever you like.
All right. Well, I'm going to take that as an open invite. But no, really, I think fuck the pods and fuck the bugs and fuck Klaus Schwab is a good note to end on.
We didn't mention her by name earlier. So, but where do you, you know, before we end, before we end, what makes you hopeful?

(01:41:43):
Well, what I talked about in the beginning is the fact that, you know, legacy media that means to the current political system is similar in many ways to the Catholic Church in the 1400s.
And once the printing press came into being, we had, we literally had the Enlightenment, we had industrializations and we've experienced an unprecedented level of human flourishing compared to life under the Catholic Church.

(01:42:07):
And there's many, there's so many parallels to that right now. And we're just in the beginning of that.
And I'm really hopeful that I am actually a part of this new, this newfound revolution and the internet right now is like the modern day printing press.
And I'm also a part of that revolution to move our society forward. So I'm hopeful about that. We have better money.
More people are becoming aware and actively involved in growing their own food. More people are homeschooling their kids.

(01:42:35):
The, the, the threshold actually for open dialogue has increased exponentially over the past four years, especially since COVID.
And they're becoming a lot more involved than they ever were in the past. And it looks bad because all you see a whole bunch of horrible things like
Venezuela gang members taking over apartment complexes in Colorado, drag queens, reading the kids, kids on fucking hormone blockers, all this fucking degenerate, crazy bullshit, right?

(01:43:01):
You know, but the fact that it's so out there in front of you means so many more people are seeing how absurd this current apparatus is. And that's the first step towards change is realizing how absurd your current situation is.
Once again, amen. And one last note from my side. If you are a right wing influencer or a left wing influencer, and if on the right, you are larking about freedom of speech and defunding the deep state.

(01:43:33):
And if on the left, you are larking about progressivism and true liberalism, stop larking, study Bitcoin, get on Noster and be a fucking, like, be the change you actually want to see, not to sound like a fucking cliche,
but stop larking. We all see through it. Maybe your idiot followers don't. But those of us who are awake do. And you know, you and I are pretty woke, I'd say, very woke, but like actually woke in the sense that we are awake, our eyes are open.

(01:44:06):
And once your eyes are open, they cannot close. You can never close them again. And that's a good thing. And at first, it's really scary and overwhelming, right? But then once you come to terms with an understanding, you're like, No, this is actually awesome.
I see things exactly for what they are. And I know how to plan for the future. I know who to talk to. I know exactly what the blueprint is. And it just becomes like, it almost becomes like you're a future teller when it just when it's not really that it's just very obvious what's out there, you know, it's like you see through the matrix.

(01:44:32):
Okay, wake up, Neo.
All right.
All right, Alex, this is a fucking pleasure. Where should people go? I'll link stuff in the show notes, but if there's anywhere specific, you sent me stuff already, you were well prepared.
Send you a whole bunch of things. Yeah. Okay, so let's start with the Bitcoin stuff. Follow me on Noster. It's Alex Stranger. My end pubs in the description. I got a stack of news account stack of news.com slash Alex Stranger.

(01:44:56):
I think that's what it is. It's also in the description. I just created a fountain account account for my podcast Convils in the petty cab.
Now that we're done with the Bitcoin stuff, we'll go with the fiat clown platforms. You can follow me on X at the Alex Stranger Instagram Showtime Alex Stranger YouTube and rumble type Alex Stranger, ALEX, S-T-R-E-N-G-E-R Spotify Convils on the petty cab and then SoundCloud.

(01:45:24):
I'm the notorious white boy if you want to hear my educational rap song. So I think that's pretty much covered Walker.
Fuck, you rattled those off so quickly. I'm quite impressed by that. Alex, this was a pleasure. This was a trip. This was full of tangents, which I very much enjoyed.
I appreciate you. I appreciate that you are bringing some fucking humor and deep satire to this world. Thanks for what you're doing. Thanks for coming on another fucking Bitcoin podcast.

(01:45:50):
No, I love it. We definitely got to do this again next time. We're in Austin, dude. Hop on the petty cab walker. I'd love to have you.
Oh fuck, let's do it. Let's go. Alright.

(01:46:25):
You can find me on Noster by going to primal.net slash walker. If you want to follow the Bitcoin podcast on Twitter, go to at TIT coin podcast and at Walker America.
You can also find the video version of this podcast at youtube.com slash at Walker America and at Walker America on rumble or just go to Bitcoin podcast dot net slash podcast and find links everywhere.

(01:46:56):
Coin is scarce. There will only ever be 21 million, but Bitcoin podcasts are abundant. So thank you for spending your scarce time to listen to another fucking Bitcoin podcast.
Until next time, stay free.

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