Caitlin’s Journey from Energy Healer to Christ: Breaking Free from Demonic New Age Practices

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Can New Age practices open doors to demonic deception?

In this powerful episode of The Blind Exorcist, I sit down with Caitlin Rivera, who spent 12 years as an energy healer before rediscovering her faith in Jesus Christ. From tarot cards to soul contracts and astrology, Caitlin participated in over 15 different New Age practices—only to realize they were leading her further from truth and into spiritual danger.

Through exorcism and deliverance, she broke free from deception and shares how others can too. This conversation exposes how even well-intentioned spiritual curiosity can lead to bondage, and how Christ alone brings true freedom.

📌 What you’ll discover in this episode:

✅ How energy healing, tarot, and astrology invite spiritual deception
 ✅ The demonic roots behind popular New Age practices
 ✅ Caitlin’s deliverance and return to biblical Christianity
 ✅ What “twin flames” and soul contracts really are
 ✅ How Eve’s temptation in the garden still echoes today
 ✅ The spiritual danger of pursuing power over obedience
 ✅ Why aligning with God’s Word is the only path to truth and peace

This is a wake-up call for anyone dabbling in the spiritual realm outside of Christ. Don’t miss Caitlin’s incredible testimony of deliverance.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
exposing the darkness , revealing the light.
Welcome, guys, to episode 14 ofthe Blind Exorcist.
I'm Justin D, your host, and,if you're new, thank you so much
for stopping by.
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This is intriguing stuff, guys.
Let's be real.
There's a lot of people outthere fascinated about demons
and what is it?
And all this and the BlindExorcist brings it to you wrong.
Real, like we talk about demonsbut we apply it to your real

(00:41):
life.
With that out of the way, todaywe're talking about the new age.
What's the new age?
Well, it's a gazillionspiritual practices put under
this massive umbrella of a titleof new age, and the new age can
comprise things like psychics,tarot card readings, idle

(01:02):
worship I mean anything yoga,energy healing, et cetera.
So there's so many practicesthat you know I couldn't even
list them all, and each one ofthese give us demons.
As Christians, or even ifyou're not a Christian, when you
interact with these things, youdo get demons.
And my guest today was an energyhealer, a very advanced energy

(01:25):
healer.
She was in this for 12 years.
She recently went through anexorcism with Dr Larson and she
is a Christian for three months.
It's gonna be amazing when youhear the passion she has for
Christ and she is going to flusha lot of this out, how this
impacted her life, the negativeconsequences of getting involved

(01:47):
with these things.
She didn't understand any ofthis, but the Lord brought her
out of it.
So today I'm joined by CaitlinRivera and again, she was in
this for 12 years and she joinsus today to really take a deep
dive into this.
This is going to be a very goodepisode with a lot of solid

(02:12):
information, so I encourage youto listen to this all the way
through to the end.
Okay, can you do that for me?
Because this is gonna be veryinformative, educational and
challenging for you.
So please listen to this clearto the end Without any further

(02:32):
ado.
Caitlin, welcome to the BlindExorcist.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Thank you, Justin, so much for having me.
I'm so honored to be here.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I'm excited to have you here with us today.
So many Christians haveincorporated many New Age
philosophies and practices intotheir Christian belief system
and this is a grave mistake.
And Caitlin is a young lady whohas been a Christian now for

(03:05):
three months and it's amazing tome how much Bible she's already
memorized, her passion forChrist coming out of this,
rejecting it and just on firefor Christ, and you're gonna see
and hear her fire and passionduring this interview.

(03:26):
So, caitlin, let's get to knowyou a little bit.
Why don't you tell thelisteners initially like, how
did you get involved?
And eventually we'll dive intomore of the practices you were
involved in, but initially, howdid you get involved in these
New Age practices?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Absolutely, justin.
So the enemy is extremelysneaky and he will take
advantage of people's compassionand generosity, just like he
did with me.
Starting from a very young age,when I was a little girl, my
brother, who was two years older, suffered from seizures, which
is called petite mall.
So growing up, I had a lot ofcompassion.

(04:09):
I saw how my parents trustedthe doctors and gave them
medicine, gave my brothermedicine, and how this medicine
only made my brother worse.
So a question came into my mind, which was how can people heal
themselves without using drugs?
And Satan took a full advantageof that.

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And you guys will notice that itstarts very innocently when
you're in the New Age.
It starts with things likeenergy medicine, reiki, learning
, chinese medicine, acupuncture,acupressure points, which is
essentially when we're workingwith people's energies.
We are transferring demonicenergies, and that was something

(04:49):
that was hidden for me forabout 12 years.
I started doing body workaround the age of 18.
And once I found out the truth,justin, I knew that I could not
put my trust in energy medicineany longer.
So that is essentially how itstarted.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
And this is interesting because this is the
craze right now where everybodywants to be an energy healer and
help people and I've mentionedthis in other episodes where
people in the New Age these arenot bad people, these are not
obviously some people were justin it for the money and so forth

(05:27):
, but most people are in it toactually help people.
Just like Caitlin was sayingHer brother had seizures, the
medicine wasn't helping, so shewas gonna reach out to something
to try to help her brother, andSatan was right there to meet
her with her compassion.

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When it comes to healers, theyare being trained by the kingdom
of darkness to heal people, andthe devil can bring healing to
people.
You might wonder how does thathappen?
And I would say personally thisis a personal opinion as an
exorcist that most people havedemons.

(06:10):
I was talking to a guy actuallywho came out to price me air
conditioning for my studio andhe said you're blind.
Have you ever heard of so andso, dr, so and so?
And I said no, he said he's anenergy healer and I said, oh
interesting, he goes.
Yeah, I went to him with mydaughter there's 300 of us there
and we had to meditate for awhile and channel our energy.

(06:36):
And a guy in a wheelchair gotright up and got healed and I
said interesting.
I said it's funny you bringthis up because I'm an exorcist.
And this guy's jaw dropped andhe's you're for real.
I said absolutely.
And he said let me give youanother take on this.
How about?
The energy you're tapping intois demonic.
I said what is your religion?

(06:56):
He said he was Roman Catholic.
I said okay, then you get whereI'm coming from.
What if that energy is demonic?
And what if the person in thewheelchair has demons and Satan
removes the demons, causing theman to be in the wheelchair to
mimic a healing?
So he causes the demons to comeout.

(07:18):
The guy stands up, he says I'mhealed and now all of a sudden
he has evangelized falsedoctrine of energy healing to
300 people in the room whothemselves have gotten demons by
participating in this.
And this guy stood there.
He thought about what I wassaying and he said I'm gonna

(07:40):
keep that in mind.
I said listen, man, you everstart getting any types of
paranormal phenomena happeningaround you, with your daughters
as well.
His daughters went to this guy.
I said you got my number.
You call me because you'regonna need an exorcism, and so
that's really what a lot of thisis.
It is, in my personal opinion,demons inside of a person, and

(08:03):
when the energy and the healing,it doesn't matter what it is.
And, caitlin, I'm gonna swingback to you in just a minute to
talk about some of the energyhealing training that you've had
, but it doesn't matter what itis.
What you're using, what modelof energy healing at the root is

(08:23):
demons.
Caitlin, why don't you sharesome thoughts with us on how you
trained in this energy healingand your thoughts, and also tie
in the supernatural to it aswell?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Absolutely, justin, and I just wanted to share
before I jump into all of thisis just one of the Bible verses
that really convicted me, whichis found in Deuteronomy, chapter
18, verse 10 through 12.
And I'll read this is from theNLT version.
It says let no one be foundamong you who sacrifices their
son or daughter in the fire, whopractices divination or sorcery

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, interprets omens, engages inwitchcraft or cast spells, or
who is a medium or a spiritist,or who consults the dead.
Anyone who does these things istestable to the Lord, and I
will share with your audiencethat Satan will blind you to the

(09:22):
truth, he will confuse you andhe will distort the truth.
The further you get into newage, the further you get from
Christ and the Bible, and I wasraised Roman Catholic and I'm
sure just like so many of youguys listening, you go to church
.
It's so boring.
You're waiting for thesupernatural experience.

(09:43):
You're not getting it.
There's no power there.
You almost feel.
But who is Jesus and who is thedevil?
I was taught you don't talkabout the devil, you don't talk
about demons, you just live infear, and that was something
where I rebelled against.
And so one of the things thatthese churches I feel need to

(10:03):
bring back is educatingChristians about the enemy,
because if we are in theterritory where we are rooting
for Christ, then we need tounderstand how to battle Satan,
and if we are ignorant to Satan,then we've lost.
We have to be able tounderstand how the enemy works.

(10:24):
So my intention for being hereis to give you guys the
education and the insight of howSatan sneakily comes in, can
twist and disguises it as light.
As we know, lucifer is thedemon of light and pride and
Satan is the demon of lies, andLucifer will dress himself up in

(10:45):
beauty, just like crystals.
I was into crystals but goingback to the past I don't bounce
too much around, justin, toanswer your question Because I
was so upset at the Catholicupbringing and religion where I
didn't get anything from it, Iended up going to study in Japan
for a year when I was 17.
In college I pretty much choseto major in international

(11:10):
studies because I wanted tolearn everything and anything
that was opposite from Westernculture, because I could see how
broken our society was.
I thought obviously religionisn't helping, so I'm going to
study other religions.
I studied Buddhism, shintoism,taoism, the Tao-de-Ching,
anything I could get my hands on.
And when I came back from JapanI thought different.

(11:34):
I saw the world different.
So my question was, at 18, whatam I here to do?
What is my life purpose?
So here's another trap Do notgo see astrologist.
I did that.
I put my power into an astrologyreading where I asked the
astrologist what am I here to do?

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What is my life purpose?
And I was 18, she looks at mychart.
She says you're here to be anenergy healer or an energy
worker.
I believe it was energy workerand I looked at her very
confused and I thought wait, I'mgoing to be an electrician, I'm
going to be a plumber, I'mworking with energy.

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That's literally what I thought.
I had no idea what energymedicine, energy healing I had
no idea what that was.
So she looks at me and she saysget into Reiki, start with
Reiki and then start with DonnaEden energy medicine.
So that's where it started.
I learned about the chakras.
And when you learn about thechakras I don't know how

(12:39):
familiar the audience is withthe chakras, but essentially
we're taught that there areseven.
There are more when you studythe advanced chakras, but each
chakra governs differentphysical, emotional and mental
attributions.
When you do Reiki, you getattunements.
You get up to four attunementsthe shokure, the honchen, zhen
shonien, daikyou mo and theshokure.

(13:00):
Those are the four and they'reall guess what originated from
Japan, which is where I studiedand lived.
I studied Reiki.
I ended up getting my Reikimasters.
I started teaching and attuningpeople to the symbols and, just
like Satan knows, he wants tobait you, he, you can't be
satisfied with that one answer.

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You have to keep going deeperand you have to know more.
Because what Satan will say isoh, you need to know more
knowledge.
Just like the forbidden fruit,you need to have more, you need
to know more.
If you want to help people, youhave to know more.
So then I got into Donna Eden.
Donna Eden is all stemmed fromChinese medicine.
She incorporates things likeTai Chi, qigong, eft tapping.

(13:42):
I was actually about to takeher advanced class, finishing
advanced class, year four, whenI had my exorcism with Dr Larson
.
That saved me.
That saved my life.
I don't know where I would be inmy life if I continued doing
energy medicine.
Because what will happen if youcontinue doing energy medicine?

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You literally take on otherpeople's demons.
You take on their emotions, youtake on their thought forms.
You can even take on theirphysical ailments and praise God
, I do feel I was protected bythe Lord, because it could have
went downhill very fast.
When I got into the energymedicine, I knew I had to stop.

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I incorporated sound healing aswell, singing bowls.
And just an FYI for youraudience if you think listening
to bimereal beats is good, sayto brain waves, alpha brain
waves, whatever it is.
You are working with mindcontrol, demons, mind especially
also with psychedelics.
That's sorcery.
The mind control is going toessentially numb your brain, fog

(14:47):
your brain and make you almostlike a droid, like a robot,
where you can't think foryourself.
You're just going with the flow.
Satan wants you weak.
He doesn't want you to thinkfor yourself, he wants to dumb
you down.
Essentially that's the agenda,because if we're dumbed down
then you can't fight.
So yeah, justin, I hopefully.
I know that was a long answer,but I hope that answered the

(15:08):
question.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Caitlin.
That answered my question andhopefully you guys understand a
little bit of what this is.
You may not understand all theterms she's saying, but the gist
of it is she is tapping intosupernatural, demonic energy
that is supposed to be used tohelp people and in fact what it
does is it transfers demons topeople.

(15:31):
Both Caitlin has had demonstransferred to her from people
while practicing energy healing.
There was a time where a womancame to her for grief and she
did energy healing on her andwas in bed for several days
stricken with grief.
And when she talked to hertrainer and said what's going on
, the trainer had no answers.

(15:53):
She just said give it a coupleof days.
So you know this is seriousstuff and I wanna bring this
back around to the Bible here injust a minute.
She mentioned astrology readingand here, as a young really
teenage or young girl 18, herwhole life's ahead of her she

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went to a human being as thoughthis human being was God and
going to tell her what to dowith her entire life.
Now, behind the astrologyreader are demons.
It's what Caitlin read inDeuteronomy Divination, sorcery,
witchcrafts, forbidden by Godbecause he knows that it

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destroys us, even thoughoutwardly it looks like
everyone's so happy that they'redoing yoga and mindfulness
meditation and they're drinkingtheir herbal teas and they just
seem so in tune and all thiskind of stuff.
But in reality they're loadedfull of demons, because when
they're home alone and theycrawl into bed it's a whole

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different story.
Now they're not so peaceful.
Now that's when the demonsstart tormenting them, and they
do that in many different ways.
And so then they think, oh myGod, I gotta get something else.
So now let's go pick upcrystals and let's work with
crystals, and then the devillets them have a little bit of
relief for a little bit, andthen the demons come around

(17:21):
again.
Stop bothering them.
Oh, okay, let's get some sageand burn sage and whatever.
It's endless.
So it's almost like drugs in asense.
People start off withcigarettes and then they go to
marijuana and then frommarijuana they start blowing
lines of cocaine and then aftercocaine they start dropping acid
and then, after psychedelics,they get into heroin.

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Eventually they die.
And this is how it is with theNew Age movement.
It's what the Bible says, and Ibelieve it was Apostle Paul
ever learning but never comingto the truth.
That's what the New Age is.
This stuff isn't new guys, bythe way.
This has been around.
She read it back in Deuteronomy.

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This all started back there.
They've just Satan's justrebranded it today to light
workers and energy healing, butall this stuff was going on
clear back in Deuteronomy.
It's just been passed down forgenerations.
So as a Christian, you cannotpull in these practices and

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intertwine them with yourChristian belief system, because
they're demonic.
I just wanna mention thatbecause so many clients I work
with that are Christians havethis stuff in their life and
some of them don't realize it'sbad and when they do, like
Caitlyn, they renounce it.
They go through an exorcism andget rid of the demons and

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others.
They don't wanna give it up.
They don't wanna give it up andit's so sad to me because at
the end of that is greatdisaster and destruction.
How do I know that?
I say it all the time.
Jesus said it the thief, meaningSatan, comes to steal, kill and
destroy and he's like a cancer.

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He does it slowly, over time.
He's not gonna come in andstrike you right away, but over
time he'll start putting inplace different types of
torments so he might put atorment of anxiety on you and
just out of the blue, you starthaving anxiety, you don't know
why.
So you deal with that for ayear.
You go to therapy, none of theanxiety medications working.

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So it's been about a year.
So then after that, he startspushing you toward an addiction.
And then all of a sudden, youdon't know how or why, no matter
what the addiction is, itdoesn't matter.
Now you're struggling with anaddiction, and so then he'll
wrap you up in chains with thatover a year, maybe a year and a

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half, and the whole time he'skilling you, by the way.
And then after that he's gonnaintroduce some other type of
torment in your life.
Maybe he'll bring a partnerinto your life.
Hmm, we don't talk about that.
Yeah, we are.
Maybe the devil will bring apartner into your life and just
you're so in love with your guyor girl and about eight months

(20:17):
into the relationship, onceyou've gotten demons from him,
or gotten demons from her, fromsleeping with him and everything
, then, about eight months, hmm,the devil crushes you
emotionally and spiritually, hebreaks you and he laughs the
whole time.
How does he break you?
Let me give an example.
How about?

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A client of mine walked in andfound her husband in her bed
with her best friend having sex.
How about that?
Imagine that best friend.
Yeah, that's what the devil hasfor you.
And so just because you're notexperiencing some of the things

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we're talking about on heredoesn't mean that it's not
coming because it is.
It's the devil's nature.
It's Satan's nature to kill you, period.
So we're gonna get into more ofthese new age practices that
Caitlyn was involved in andflush them out a little bit more
, so those of you listening canbegin to understand what's evil
and what's not.

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How could this be evil?
They're healing people.
It's evil, period, because theBible says it is.
And if you are a Christian, ifyou are a Christian, you cannot
incorporate these practices intoyour life anyway.
Tarot, card readings, crystals,burning sage, whatever dude you

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can't incorporate that intoyour Christian life.
You just can't.
So I'm gonna swing over toCaitlyn and I'm gonna have her
read out of Genesis, chapterthree, and if you have a Bible,
grab it.
Pause the podcast.
If you have a Bible, I want youto grab it and flip it open to
Genesis three.
If you don't have a Bible, justopen up Google and search for

(22:04):
Christian online Bible andyou'll find one.
The new living translation is agood one because it's easy to
follow.
Caitlyn mentioned she's usingthat and I do as well.
I love it.
Find Genesis three, pause thisand when you find it, come back
so you can follow along with usBecause I'm gonna dissect
Genesis chapter three versus onethrough six and, caitlyn, I'm

(22:27):
gonna have you read them one ata time and then I'm gonna share
some thoughts with you guys whoare Christians, and, caitlyn,
I'm gonna ask you to share aswell.
But for a start, let's just goahead and start Genesis chapter
three and just read verse one,please.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Thank you, justin.
May I add one quick comment towhat you just said about the
relationships?
Absolutely Okay for people whoare Christian or not Christian.
I will just tell you, when Ihad Jezebel in me, she's I don't
know if I can swear on this,but she's just a hoe and she
literally wanted.
It's very twisted because whenyou're not saved you wanna fill

(23:09):
in a void, and a lot of timeswe've been brainwashed by
society and mainstream to fillin the void.
You go into a relationship.
Okay, ladies, find a man whohas a strong foundation in
Christ.
If you do not find a man whohas a strong foundation in
Christ, it's gonna be all overthe place.
You're gonna get hurtspiritually, emotionally, and

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pray to God for one.
When I came to Christ, whenJesus saved me, when the Holy
Spirit saved me, it filled inthe void that I was searching
for all these years.
And praise God when arelationship does not work, know
that God's rejection can alsobe God's protection.
So that was what I wanted toshare.

(23:53):
And, justin, I'm ready to jumpinto Genesis, chapter three,
verse one.
Go for it.
The serpent was the shrewdestof all the wild animals the Lord
God had made.
One day he asked the woman didGod really say you must not eat
the fruit from any of the treesin the garden?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Thank you, caitlin.
Notice here, guys, the devil istrying to get Eve to question
God's word.
Did God really say youshouldn't use astrology?
Did God really say youshouldn't practice yoga?

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Whatever it is, this is how itall started.
If you're not familiar with this, you're not a Christian and
you're following.
God creates Adam and Eve.
He made man and woman andthat's how he designed mankind.
And Satan is here tempting themto eat fruit that was forbidden
in a garden that they lived in.

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God's like eat anything youwant, but don't eat this tree or
you'll die.
So that was a command from Godto Adam and Eve.
And now the devil's here.
Satan's here saying did Godreally say don't eat?
Devil always tries to get youto question.
Did God really say don't datethat man?
Did God really say don't datethat girl?

(25:19):
Whatever it is, it's alwaystrying to get you to doubt God's
word.
Why?
Because the Bible is absolutetruth, period.
As a Christian, and if you're aChristian, the Bible is truth
and we follow what it says to do, because God created us and he
knows what's best for us, period.

(25:39):
Caitlin.
Any thoughts on this firstverse before I go on?

Speaker 2 (25:42):
No, I think you really.
We put it set in stone, so yeah, nothing to add.
Let's do verse two.
Okay, so verse two.
Of course we may eat fruit fromthe trees in the garden.
The woman replied it's only thefruit from the tree in the
middle of the garden that we arenot allowed to eat.
God said you must not eat it,or even touch it.

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If you do, you will die.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
There we go.
She understood God's commandperiod.
She understood it.
The devil questioned her.
Did God really say don't eatthe fruit?
She says yeah, god told usdon't eat the fruit or you will
die.
She understood the word of God.
Let me bring this into today'stimes.
We understand as Christians weshould not be doing tarot card

(26:35):
readings.
We understand the command ofGod out of Deuteronomy to not
participate in divination,sorcery, witchcraft, yada, yada,
yada.
So we understand this, thatthese things are wrong.
It's very clear in the Bible.
If you wanna know what you'redoing is right or wrong, look in
the Bible.
All truth comes from it.

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Eve understood the truth ofGod's word.
It wasn't that she was confusedor anything.
She understood it.
Let's go on to verse three.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Okay, so we're at verse four.
You won't die.
The serpent replied to thewoman.
God knows that your eyes willbe opened as soon as you eat it
and you will be like God knowingboth good and evil.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Come on, man, that's so apparent.
First of all, you're gonna belike a God.
You need higher enlightenment.
In other words, what Satan'stelling Eve is God's word isn't
enough, you need more.
And that's what's happeningtoday.
And he says your eyes will beopen.
How many people I work withtheir third eyes open and their
chakras and everything, and theyjust really are enlightened and

(27:47):
they're so Way above everybody.
Because nobody understands thehigher essence of existence, all
pride, which is what Lucifer is.
That's why he was kicked out ofheaven.
So here he's telling her if youeat that, you're gonna be like
God.
How many people you know inlife today that believe they are

(28:08):
a God?
I Am God.
That's what so many peoplebelieve in the New Age.
They have a Christconsciousness and they have
ascended and they work with theascended masters, which are
demons, all demons, and they'veall been lied to and deceived,
just like Satan is deceiving Everight here he's telling her if

(28:30):
you eat that apple, your eyeswill be open.
In other words, you're going tohave more wisdom and you will
know both good and evil.
God never intended Eve or Adamto know evil, only him good.
That's why Jesus Christ cameand died on the cross to restore
our relationship back with Godthrough Jesus Christ.

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But, focusing on this point,satan is telling her your eyes
will be open.
In other words, you need morethan what God said.
You need to study the stars,you need to go to a psychic or,
in Caitlyn's case, you need tobegin to study from these energy
healers who have beenpracticing this for years,

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because God's word isn't enough.
You need your eyes, and opened.
You don't need that prehistoricChristian bible.
You need to be much more wiseand get your eyes open and be
like God, knowing the higherplanes, the higher levels of

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consciousness, all eyes.
Guys, you cannot practice thesethings and make it to heaven.
You just can't.
By design.
Sin keeps us out of heaven, sowe can't practice things like
this as a Christian, no matterwhat it is.
Caitlyn, I'm going to swing toyou real quick any thoughts on
this one.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Absolutely.
Just remember too that satancounterfeits what God created.
He can't.
Satan can't create, he can onlycounterfeit.
I will tell you guys, the 12years that I studied all this
garbage, the weeds I really sayit's weeds.
Satan plants weeds to distractyou, to keep you on the hamster
wheel it all brought me back tochrist.

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It wasn't until I startedreading the bible, once the
blinders were off, that I, theholy spirit, came to me and I
was able to actually understandthe bible.
Before, when I was not saved, Icould not understand the bible.
I even got angry when someonewould talk to me about the bible
.
As we know, the demons dideverything they could to make me
stay away Because they knew,once I started to understand

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what the bible was saying, itwas legit what I was doing, but
the counterfeit version from theenemy.
So when you meet people that'swhy curse breaking I love doing
curse breaking because you canbreak off the curses from
generational sin Likefornification, illegitimacy, so
you can understand the, thescriptural text and, for example

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, in Corinthians, I talk aboutthe nine spiritual gifts the
gifts of healing, the gifts ofspeaking in tongues, the gifts
of wisdom and knowledge.
It's all there, but if you aredoing it in the new age version.
It is the counterfeit version.
I have learned more, eventhough I'm still just three
months saved.
I'm learning every day the holyspirit.

(31:20):
Every time I talk and pray toour father, he will show me what
to read in the bible.
I know everyone has probablytheir own methodology on how to
read the bible.
For me that was just so new.
I would pray to the lord and Iwould say lord, father, help me
to understand.
What do I need to know?
And I would pray and I wouldliterally in my heart I would
hear go to romans, go totimothy's, go to deuteronomy and

(31:45):
let.
And if you guys are havingconfusion while you're reading
the bible, I don't understandthis.
Help me understand this.
Ask and pray for the holyspirit to guide you, because the
holy spirit is your teacher andit will help you to understand.
And you can go back and rereadthe passages, because I found
that when I go back and rereadthe passages, there's more
information, there's more wisdom.

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It is literally a breathing.
It is the breath of god.
When I read the bible, it is sosacred to me, it is the best
book I've ever read and it isprobably going to be a book that
you will not find, because Iknow, with satan's agenda,
they're pushing the bible to notbe allowed in bookstores.
Because that is the truth Jesusis the way, the truth, the life
.
No one comes to the fatherexcept through him.

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And that's going to upset a lotof people because now they know
that's the only route and I,like I said, coming from someone
who studied all these religions, traveled to all these
countries.
It came back to, it came rightback to the bible, came right
back to christ guys again.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I just want to point out katlyn has been a christian
for three months.
Some of you have beenchristians for years and have no
passion, and she brought out agood point earlier.
We need the supernatural aspectof jesus christ back in the
church, and exorcism is one ofthose supernatural functions

(33:07):
that christ is bringing back tothe church, because so many
people are involved with thesenew age practices and have
demons that when the blindersare removed, they come to church
and no one there.
The majority of people are nottrained, but we are.
We are trained.
So if you ever want out of thisstuff as you're listening, get

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a hold of me and katlyn.
She's training to become anexorcist as well.
How awesome is that?
Okay, let's go on to the lastverse I want to cover here.
To recap real quick, we're ingenesis three.
Satan came to, even caused herto question god's word, just
like he tries to question.
Make us question god's bible.

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Did god really say you can'teat this fruit?
Eve knew the command of god,said we can eat all the fruit In
the garden except from thistree.
So she knew the command.
Then satan pushed even more andsaid god knows if you eat the
fruit, your eyes will be openedand you'll be like god.
So here he's giving the pride.

(34:12):
You're gonna be like god,you're gonna be above and and
above people and really beenlightened.
And anyhow, now we're in versesix.
Katlyn, let's hear what do wegot in verse six?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay, so verse six the woman was convinced.
She saw that the tree wasbeautiful and its fruit looked
delicious, and she wanted thewisdom it would give her.
So she took some of the fruitand ate it.
Then she gave some of her fruitto the husband who was with her

(34:46):
, and he ate it too.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Okay, there we go.
She wanted the wisdom.
See, the problem is shelistened to satan and she wanted
the wisdom.
It's why a lot of people getinto new age practices.
They want the wisdom.
But the highest wisdom youcould ever have is found in the
bible the christian bible,because god created us man so he

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knows us.
So when he says don't do thingsin the bible it's because he
knows that it leads to death anddestruction and it's going to
harm us.
Remember what I said the devildoesn't kill you right up front.
He's like a cancer.
He eats at you slowly, overtime.
Some of you listening are 30,40, 50 years old and you're

(35:32):
starting to now Get really thecancer of satan, so to speak.
Maybe you've had a couple failedmarriages, traumas, addictions,
barely making it through day byday because of the decisions
that we've all made in life,myself included.

(35:53):
You can listen to my story onepisode one overcoming the
darkness.
I was a broken man, dude, soI'm not preaching at you.
I'm right in there with you.
But I surrendered to christ,just like katlyn surrendered to
christ.
We gave it up, made him numberone, got rid of our demons.
I still can't believe she'sonly three months, a christian
dude.
This is phenomenal.

(36:13):
Hear her passion, her joy.
Some of you out there are stilltrying to find that.
You've never found it.
With all the new age stuff thatyou've been involved in, you've
still never found Lasting peaceand joy.
So eve wanted the wisdom.
Man, oh, she got the wisdom.
She died, if you keep readingImmediately.

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They became ashamed becausethey were naked.
When god created adam and eve,they were naked.
They didn't even know they werenaked because it was pure,
wasn't defiled, and as soon asthey ate that apple they knew
good and evil Brought sin intothe world.
That causes death.
But christ died for us to takeus out of that Curse of death,
the separation from god, toreunite us with our creator.

(37:00):
It's an amazing experience, man.
So this is a perfectillustration of how things
happen, with satan andchristians adopting the new age
into their lives.
It doesn't matter what you think, it matters what god thinks.
As a christian, it reallydoesn't matter what you think,

(37:21):
and in today's times it's howmany people say I think or I
feel.
That's irrelevant.
Galatians, chapter 5, talksabout the sinful nature and the
acts of the sinful nature, andagain paul mentions witchcraft,
sorcery, foreign occasion what'sforeign occasion, sleeping
around man before you're married.

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God says don't do it.
How many christians today justlive with each other, have sex
all the time and then read theirbible together?
How twisted is that?
There's a scripture I forgot tolook it up but it says that
Jesus explains that there arepeople who die and they stand
before god at judgment and theysay to To jesus.

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And on the day of judgment,because we're all going to give
account for what we do, manperiod.
They're standing there and theysay Lord, we cast out demons in
your name, we healed the sickin your name, we helped the poor
, we visited people in prison.
And they just start listingeverything that they've done for
christ.

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And he says to them depart fromme, because I never knew you.
Hmm, how could they be doingall these things as christians?
And then, on the day ofjudgment, god says depart for me
, I never knew you, because Godwasn't their God.
He was part of the mix, but alsowas witchcraft, psychics, on

(38:52):
and on it goes Reiki, energy,healing, yoga, a little bit of
Buddhism, a little bit ofHinduism, a little bit of
Christianity.
Depart from me, I never knewyou.
Why?
Because God has to be numberone.
What about the 10 commandments?
Thou shalt have no other Godbefore me.
This is a challenging message,man, and hopefully you are

(39:15):
feeling a little uncomfortable,because that's a good thing.
If you weren't feelinguncomfortable, then you really
don't care about yourChristianity, but if you are,
you do care about it, and soit's a good thing if you feel
uncomfortable, as I'm sharingthese things with you and
Caitlin sharing them as well.
Caitlin, swinging back to you,you were into this for quite a

(39:37):
while and there were definitelyramifications on your life from
it.
Any thoughts to share aboutthat?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Absolutely.
I would like to make youraudience feel a little bit more
uncomfortable, if it hasn't sunkin yet, the detriment of what
you guys are doing.
If you are Christian andthinking yoga is good, going to
a witch doctor that does Reikiis good, I wanna let you know
biblically that when you'redoing this you are cursing
yourself, you're cursing yourchildren, you're cursing your

(40:06):
grandchildren and you're cursingyour great grandchildren.
And how do I know this?
Okay, if we go to Exodus,chapter 20, verse five, actually
, let me go to another one.
I'm gonna go to Deuteronomy.
You guys can look at that too.
But Deuteronomy, chapter five,verse nine, and this is taken
from the King James version Thoushalt not bow down thyself unto

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them, nor serve them, for I,the Lord, thy God, ammajeleus,
god, visiting the iniquity ofthe fathers upon the children
unto the third and fourthgeneration of them that hate me.
Okay, and the other one if youguys wanna look into is Numbers,
chapter 14, verse 18,.

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The Lord is long suffering andof great mercy for giving
iniquity and transgression andby no means clearing the guilty,
visiting the iniquity of thefathers upon the children unto
the third and fourth generation.
So again, we have two Biblescriptures here that are saying,
when you get involved into allthese new age practices which

(41:15):
I'll go through some of themodalities that I was involved
in you are cursing your familylineage.
This goes into generationalcurse breaking.
So, guys, get with the program,repent and come back to the
Lord.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Good information, caitlin.
Yes, curses people are cursedfrom ancestors participating in
many things, even outside ofwitchcraft or divination and
sorcery and all this sort ofstuff.
But let me come back to you andwe've touched on a few things
like Reiki, energy healing ortarot card readings or whatever

(41:53):
right.
But let's go to you and I wantyou to name off the things that,
specifically, you were involvedin the new age, just in case
some people listening who areChristians are wondering is this
really evil?
So if you would, caitlin, couldyou just name off the things
that you were involved in sothat people can get a very clear

(42:16):
picture on what is witchcraftevil and will not only curse
them but their children andfuture generations and
ultimately keep them out ofheaven.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Absolutely.
And I encourage you guys, ifyou decide you want to research
this, plead the blood of Jesusbefore you decide to go on
YouTube and type in what I'mabout to share with you.
Some of these, you guys will besurprised with.
Some of these you've neverheard of.
I don't encourage you to reallydive into it deeply because,
again, there's alwaysstrongholds Satan likes to reel

(42:50):
you in.
But this is just.
There's about 15 modalities I'mgonna list and I'm sure
there'll be more, but these arethe ones I'm gonna start with
Energy medicine.
Energy medicine can be thingslike Reiki, qigong, tai Chi.
It could be things likechanneling with ascended masters
, extra terrestrials, what Iused to do, star-sea readings.
Hey, what are you?
A Pleiadian Arcturian?

(43:11):
Are you from Sirius?
A, b?
Where are you from?
So, again, that's gonna besomething where Satan likes to
target people who feel likeoutcasts and to say, hey, you're
not from this planet, you'rehere to raise the consciousness
and vibration of the planet.
That's all New Age lingo.
So anything that has New Agelingo, vibration, frequency,
stay away from universe.
Akashic records I was alsoinvolved in.

(43:33):
That goes into past life.
Let me read your past life.
Let me tune into your past life.
Who were you prior to thisreincarnation?
As we know, incarnation is false, it is not real, and that's why
astrology also ties intoreincarnation.
Astrology will say hey, you'reborn October 30th, you're a
Scorpio, this is all about you,and after you die and learn

(43:55):
these lessons, you'll evolveinto let's say I'm just making
this up, I don't know if it'strue a cancer or an Aries.
Okay, so that's all garbage.
Soul contracts there's a bookby Robert Schwartz, soul
contracts, soul agreements.
When we get into New Age,essentially, soul contracts says
hey, you're in a relationshipwith this person because they're
teaching you patience, selfworth, self discipline.

(44:17):
Therefore, you must stay intothis contract with this person.
Okay, so we know that'sblasphemous, automatic writing a
lot of people who are New Age,who do channeling vocally, have
started with automatic writing.
You get a journal, you startwriting things.
You have to tune in, quoteunquote, to these demonic

(44:37):
energies which disguisethemselves as ascended masters
and you apparently essentiallyhave a conversation with them.
They make you write on a pieceof paper.
If you have done that, burn it.
Breathwork breathwork is alsoanother way to activate the
quote unquote chakras and theKundalini.
As we know, kundalini is verydemonic and tied into the Hindu
God Shiva, death and destruction.

(44:59):
Okay, that ties into yoga.
A lot of people who do yoga dobreathwork too.
Oracle cards, angel cards Idon't know if any of you guys
are familiar with Doreen Virtue.
She has a book called Deceivedno More.
She was saved by Christ in 2017.
A lot of her angel cards weredepicted when she was in New Age
.
She thought it was okay to talkto angels.

(45:21):
Little did she know they werefallen angels.
She has a YouTube channel ifyou guys wanna check out on how
she was saved.
She also says if you do haveany of her material, to get rid
of it.
Psychic readings we know, andjust be careful, a lot of.
Probably I'm gonna trigger somepeople by saying this, but
those of you who are intoprophetic, let me prophesize
over you.
You gotta be very careful who'sprophesizing over you, because

(45:43):
when I got saved and went tosome of these churches, I
literally went up to the pastorand I said you guys are doing
fortune telling.
Trust me.
I did this for 12 years.
I know what fortune tellinglooks like.
This is not prophecy.
Okay, purple flame of StGermain you guys can look into
that.
Pendulum dowsing mediumship,crystal healing.
So, for example and I put gridwork too.

(46:04):
So grid work is essentially forNew Agers who say, oh, if you
place certain crystals on sacredgeometry grids, sacred geometry
could be flower of life,metatron, cube, there's a whole
bunch.
They will activate certainenergies in the body and they
can heal you.
You can put certain coloredcrystals on certain chakras,

(46:25):
guys, it's a rock, okay, so just, it's not gonna heal you, it's
a rock.
If anything, it's just theplacebo effect.
You're so engaged into it thatyou're just probably you just
believe it so much you'rehealing yourself.
But it's just a rock at the endof the day.
Crystal I put crystal singingbowls, brass singing bowls.
Keep in mind, there is nobiblical content with sound

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healing with crystal or brassbowls.
It all stems from East Asia.
So again, going back to ourconversation earlier, it does
open up demonic portals becauseit shifts your brainwaves into
more of theta alpha brainwaves,which allows the demons to come
in and control you.
I know it sounds a little crazyfor some of you guys listening,
but I did sound bowls.

(47:06):
I used to sell them at agallery and people bought them.
They bought them and when theywould come back I could just
they said they felt better.
But guys, it's a bandaid it's.
And again it's also going intoidolatry.
People are idolizing thecreation and not the creator.
Okay, and the other three I'mgonna mention off real quick

(47:29):
Accutonics, tuning forks.
The acutonics is essentiallythe same thing as acupuncture
Instead of needles we use tuningforks on the body.
Again, still demonic.
The Munakki writes Munakki,I'll spell that.
It's M-U-N-A-Y, ki is K-Iwrites.
It's shamanic.
There's shamanic initiations.
You go through 12 of them.
And then, lastly, is thecrystal skulls.

(47:50):
Essentially, with the crystalskulls, they were used in
indigenous cultures that weredemonized.
Essentially, they wouldmeditate on these crystals,
believing that all theirknowledge, information, got
stored in the skull.
So whoever would touch theseskulls would get the
transference.
Keep in mind I say that inquotations of the information or

(48:11):
the knowledge, which isessentially for me, was a
storehousekeeper of demonicenergies.
Any of those I listed, thesacred geometry, any of that
crystal healing guys, stay awayfrom it, will rope you in and it
will be a never ending rabbithole.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Guys, this is just a brief listing.
There's hundreds upon hundredsof things out there that you can
be involved in.
But Christianity is not complex.
It's study your Bible, know theBible, know truth.
As a Christian, we believe thatthe Bible is ultimate truth,

(48:47):
period.
We believe, as a Christian,that there is hell, a real,
literal hell, not a figment ofyour imagination.
There is a real hell.
We believe that when we die, wewill be judged for what we did
in this life.
Did we accept Christ or not?
And if we have not acceptedChrist and followed him, not

(49:09):
accept Christ as just anotherthing to do in addition to
everything that Caitlyn justread off?
No, in the book of Acts in theBible, paul went to his city
that was full of divination andwitchcraft, just basically doing
the same thing that Caitlyn wasdoing back there.
And they became Christians.

(49:30):
They heard truth because theywere trying to find truth, just
like Caitlyn was and a lot ofyou are.
But once they realized thatJesus Christ was the real deal,
that it is truth, they broughtall of their books and they
burned them to get rid of them.
They renounced everything thatthey did because they became a
Christian.
They didn't keep back some oftheir family, witchcraft books,

(49:55):
they didn't keep any of theidols that.
They burned everything,absolutely everything.
And this is what Christ iscalling Christians to do to come
out From the world and beseparate, come out from all of
this.
So Caitlin mentioned one ofthese modalities, dealt with
contracts, and some of you haveprobably heard of the twin flame

(50:21):
, which is another one where youthis is your lover man, you got
a twin flame.
Just the name flame should setyou off as a Christian.
Hello, flames of hell,soulbonds, man, demon
transference, control.
A lot of these people withthese twin flames, dude, they
don't even know the peoplethey're coming in to contract

(50:43):
with.
Oh my gosh, how sad.
And If you're a young person20s and 30s, even 40s, I dare
say Fooling around with all this, you're destroying your life,
the potential that Christ hasfor you to find somebody special
that will actually care for youcompassionately through the
love of Christ, and trading allthat For a counterfeit where

(51:07):
you're binding yourself tosomebody your twin flame and
you're being soulbound tosomebody that's got demons, that
transfers demons to you.
The Bible says that God is loveJohn 3 16 for God so loved the
world.
That's that, the world, meaningyou and I that he gave his only
begotten son that whosoeverbelieves in him Meaning accepts

(51:32):
him and follows his teachings.
Whoever believes in him Shallnot perish but have everlasting
life.
God loves you and in order foryou to find true love, you have
to surrender your heart to JesusChrist fully and get rid of
these Things and then let Godlead your life.
Listen, man, how's it workingout for you so far?

(51:52):
Most people I asked that theysay it's been awful, or they'll
say it's been mid or just okay.
The Bible says that the steps ofa righteous person are ordered
of God.
So when you surrender your lifeto Christ, he's gonna order
your steps.
He'll find you somebody.
He'll find you somebody.
He's got your best interest inmind.

(52:14):
But it just made me think ofthis twin flame because she
mentioned about the contract inone of her modalities.
Caitlin, what do you thinkabout the twin flame thing and
what was the contract thing youmentioned?
Was it along the lines of twinflame?

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Okay, justin.
So yeah, I can answer that acouple different ways.
I had to crack up when you weresaying the flame, twin flame
from hell, because that'sliterally what it is.
And a lot of people and this isjust so twisted because when we
talk about when playing the newage says oh yes, you will
suffer, you will go through hell, but that's all part of the

(52:49):
process, and I have met peoplein the new age I could just see
their lives being destroyed, whothey thought they were in a
twin flame relationship, andkeep in mind Some, a lot of
times people are brought up intotoxic families.
Maybe their father or their momwas a drunk or they were abusive
Emotionally, physically andthat child only knows that love

(53:10):
can.
That's how they their warpedmind things of love.
Oh, so they get into theserelationships where they attract
partners that can start doingthe same things that their
parents did.
Okay, so the soul contracts areessentially different themes
that our soul comes into.
So when you, let's say, you areat work and you don't get along

(53:31):
with your boss, the bosstriggers you.
So in soul contracts it's aboutokay, maybe that boss is in
your life because you'reteaching you self-reverence,
they're teaching you compassion.
They're teaching you patience,okay, so you don't have to
suffer, guys, if someone's justbeing completely Mean, set your
boundaries, speak up, don'ttolerate.

(53:53):
You get what you tolerate.
The reason why I bring up thesoul contracts, too, is I was
involved in polyamorousRelationships where I had
multiple partners at the sametime.
When it came to the polyamorousRelationship, lucifer pretty
much said in order for you tolearn these soul lessons with
these contracts, you have tohave multiple contracts.
So get involved with as manypeople as you can so you can

(54:17):
Learn such and such xyz lesson.
Now, keep in mind, guys, itjust created more chaos in my
life.
I had no time for a relationshipwith the Lord when I was caught
up in the world, when I wascaught up in the world of people
pleasing, of Making people,putting people before myself,
putting not even putting Godbefore myself.

(54:38):
So, guys, don't get into thetrap of I need to know all this
stuff.
It just creates more chaos,more weeds, more confusion, more
delusion.
We are swimming in a sea ofinformation and, really, the
what we're searching for is thegold, the golden thread that

(54:58):
weaves all this informationtogether, and that golden thread
is going to be found in theword of God and through
accepting our Lord savior, jesusChrist, as the one who saved,
who died for our sins.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
This is good information.
Thank you, caitlin.
This is just more of the devildestroying somebody, their
dignity, who they are, theirself-worth and the whole time
they're trying to find out whothey are and learn lessons.
You don't want to learn alesson from Satan.
Believe me, I've learned a lotof lessons from Satan and then

(55:32):
they weren't fun, and so have alot of you out there.
But this goes back to Swingingback to the twin flame.
Caitlin, tell us a little bitof An experience that you've had
or been around with that.
I just feel like that'simportant to flush that out,
because we were talking aboutthe contract, soul contracts,

(55:53):
how that can be a Used with twinflame, and let's flush that
twin flame out just a little bitmore, because I think there's a
lot of people into that.
So Share us some thoughts onthat.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Okay.
So I'll be honest, Justin.
I'm not as well versed in thetwin flame, but I can just give
my experience because a lot oftimes, from my understanding,
twin flames can be very Intense.
That's the biggest thing whereyou most feel this like flame,
right, it's intense, it's likefiery, it's passionate, okay.
So what did Disney do to usguys?
It literally, especially for usladies it pretty much told us

(56:30):
your knight and shining armorwill come.
You don't need to know him, youdon't need to question him, you
don't need to know about hisgenerational curses or things
that have been handed down.
You can just marry him.
Oh look, he's so handsome andhe's so manly.
Okay, let's just marry him andlive happily ever after.
That's very destructive guys.
Start with start as friends.
Get to know your person.

(56:51):
Twin flames tend to rush peopleinto this exotic High and it's
just like a drug.
You become addicted to it andyou're looking for the next high
.
You're looking for the nextpartner that you're looking for
the next twin flame.
Guys, it's all a lie.
That's really all I could say.
God wants you, he wants yourpartner and he wants your

(57:12):
marriages to be easy.
He doesn't want you to bestressed, he doesn't want you to
have Arguments.
You find a godly man and I havefound.
Like I said earlier in theconversation, if you do not find
a man, first of all start withyourself.
But if you don't find a manwho's anchored in Christ and has
a Relationship with Christ, andif you don't have a
relationship with Christ, afoundation in Christ, you're

(57:32):
gonna wreak havoc in yourrelationships.
And this twin flame thing, justlike Justin said, it's the
flames from hell and that's, ifyou want to go down that route,
good luck.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
The reason I wanted to flush that out a little bit
more is because in the priorepisode 13 If you've not
listened to that guys check itout it's on about abusive
relationships.
We talk about Soul bonds, whereyou bond with people and that's
really all this is.
Satan is using compulsion,addiction and binding people in

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their souls to one another,where demons transfer back and
forth between them.
I wish that you guys couldunderstand the seriousness of of
having sex before you'remarried.
In today's times, it is Nothing.

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I mentioned this in the lastepisode and I just really feel
Let of God to be sharing moreabout this with you guys,
because I think there's some ofyou out there that's really
involved in these types ofrelationships.
Man, where Guys and girls theyhook up I'm gonna hook up with
this and I'm gonna hook up withthat and then they're all out

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drinking Mimosas and laughingand having a great time.
In the whole time they're beingfilled with demons and their
lives are being destroyed.
Listen to amber in episode 13.
Man Talks about her soul bondto our abusive now ex-husband.
Tie to him, couldn't get rid ofhim, couldn't get away from him

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, couldn't give him up Becauseof that ungodly soul bond.
Man.
This is serious stuff, guys.
If you're a Christian andyou're dating somebody who's not
a Christian and You're havingsex with them, you need to cut
it off, man.
You need to come back to Christ, fully Surrender and make him
number one, above what you need,and let him bring you someone

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seriously and go through anexorcism.
Get a hold of me, man, and I'llhelp you out.
Sitting that aside, though, Ireally again I wanted to labor
in this a little bit, because Ido believe that there's People
that the Lord wants to hear this.
We got to clean up, man.
We're in the last days.
Christ is gonna be returningsoon.

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I believe that if you studyprophecy in the Bible which I
don't, but I do Listen to acouple guys on YouTube that's
been studying prophecy for 30,40 years and we are getting
close, man, so it's time toclean up, straighten up.
We don't want to miss thereturn of Christ, no matter what
.
Now Let me bring this back towhat we're talking about.

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All these Modalities of the NewAge got to give them up, man.
It doesn't matter what youthink.
It doesn't matter what you feel.
It matters what the Bible saysif you are a Christian, because
when we die and we go to heaven,we're not gonna be saying to
God I felt like Doing X was okay.

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I know, just like Eve, she knewthe command of God don't eat
the fruit.
And as Christians, we know theword of God.
And if you don't just startstudying it, this isn't a boring
religion, dude, I'm an exorcist.
It is amazing to see thesupernatural power of the Holy
Spirit and Jesus Christ drive ademon to its knees and force it

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to Come out of somebody.
It's absolutely thrillingWitchcraft has nothing on that.
When you see the supremeauthority of Jesus Christ force
a demon to its knees and Forcesit to leave a person, and then
you see that person eithercrying tears of joy or Smiling
because it's gone.

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How many times I hear peoplesay oh, thank you, jesus, it's
gone, it's gone.
What's gone?
The demon, how to get in there?
These practices we're talkingabout, these new age practices
man, gotta give them up.
This has been kind of a heavyhitter episode.
I wanted to bring this tochallenge people, make them feel

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uncomfortable.
If you're feeling uncomfortable, like I said earlier, that's a
great thing.
That's a good thing, because ifyou weren't, then you really
don't care and you're not apracticing Christian.
But if you love Jesus Christand you're feeling uncomfortable
, give this stuff up.
Trust God more than yourself,man.
I'm speaking from personalexperience.
Man, I am absolutely blind.

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You cannot see a single thing.
Catch that for just a minute.
And everything that I have inmy life supernaturally has came
from the hand of God.
He has blessed me because I'vemade him number one and I serve
him.
He is number one to me and hehas to be your number one in
order to really get the benefitsof serving a merciful, loving

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God.
I don't care about things, Idon't care about money, I don't
care about any of that stuff.
It's all temporary and fleeting.
Anyways, in every day you getup, your one day closer to the
grave.
You understand that Just today,coming here to this episode to

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record it, coming to the studio,literally, I'm in an Uber, I'm
sitting out of light and twocars crash head on and a woman
fell out of the car, flipped outof the car, laying on the
pavement screaming help me, I'mdying.
I'm not even making this up.
So my Uber driver calls 911.

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He's Middle Eastern, so hisEnglish isn't real good.
He hands the phone to me so I'mlike, yeah, we got a wreck at
this road and the Middle Easternguys I go what color car man?
He's like black Jeep, red truck.
I'm like a black Jeep and a redtruck at this street.
And I told the operator of thestreet I said, get him over here

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quick.
This is bad, real bad.
You think them people everthought that was going to happen
?
Absolutely not.
We don't know what our lastbreath is going to be or when
it's going to be, so we need tobe sold out to Christ man.
Not perfect.
We are sinful people.
We are sinners saved by grace.
Sin is fun.
Sin is addictive.

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We love it.
People love sin.
Why?
Because it's pleasurable.
It fires off your pleasurecenters.
But we have to resist it asChristians.
When we mess up, repent andmove on.
Don't practice it.
It's about growing, maturing,going through the journey with
Christ man.
You don't have to be perfect,but we do have to get rid of

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things in our lives that we knoware wrong.
And today you found out thingsthat are wrong.
And the real question for youis this Are you willing to give
up your witchcraft?
Want you to think about that?
Because that's what this is.
Everything you're dabbling inis witchcraft.
It's displeasing to Christ.
He doesn't want it.
Caitlin, read it in Deuteronomy.

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That's my challenge for youtoday.
Are you willing to give up yourwitchcraft and fully surrender
to Christ man?
Make him number one aboveeverything, above your need for
a woman, above your need for aman.
Let God love you and let himbring someone to you.
You're out there seeking aroundfor everything man, pulling in
all these things, trying to fillthat hole in your heart.

(01:04:58):
All that list of stuff thatCaitlin read.
Some of you are into some of it, all of it, more of it, just to
fill a void in your life,trying to find love man.
God is love.
Surrender to Christ man.
At the end of every episode, Ialways ask my guest to give
words of encouragement to people.

(01:05:19):
Caitlin, I'm going to swingback to you in a minute, but I'd
like you to encourage peoplewho maybe are struggling, really
wanting to give these things up, because they're getting
temporary benefit from it, maybeeven the relationships, maybe
it's fulfilling an emotionalpart of them where they feel

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validated because they've neverbeen validated as a person.
Or there's people who arepracticing these modalities in
the new age, trying to improvetheir life, because they're in
pain and they try this for alittle, then that for a little,
and they're all over the place,but the pain's still there.
Caitlin, I'm going to see ifyou can encourage these people
in your own way to give thesethings up, surrender to Christ

(01:06:04):
and also to come for an exorcism.
It's important.
You've got to get rid of thosedemons, man, and I just want to
remind you guys, caitlin's beenserving Christ for three months.
She is on fire.
You hear it in her.
She loves Christ with her wholeheart.
Because he freed her, she foundChrist.
She didn't find him in church,she found him through exorcism.

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Even Amber episode 13, the lastepisode said after her exorcism
she felt like she had become aChristian for the first time
because she experienced asupernatural power of Jesus
Christ getting rid of her demons.
It made it real for her.
So, caitlin, I'm going to swingto you.
Go ahead, give him someencouragement.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Okay, justin, my words of encouragement are going
to come from the Bible, so Ihave two passages I want to read
, and I'll make it short.
And the first one comes fromJeremiah 17,.
Because it deals a lot with theheart and the human heart.
And then in the New Age youwill say and he knows us, he
studies us, he knows that we'reemotional creatures, especially

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us ladies.
Essentially, don't trust youremotions.
I'm going to give you somebiblical content, because the
whole saying follow your heart,it'll lead you to the right way
no, it's very narcissistic, it'svery self-centered and it's
very selfish.
So what God says in Jeremiah 17, verse 9 through 10, he says
the human heart is the mostdeceitful of all things and

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desperately wicked.
Who really knows how bad it is?
But I, the Lord, search allyour hearts and examine secret
motives.
I give all people their duerewards according to what their
actions deserve.
So, in other words, make surethat your heart lines up with
Christ.
It does not line up with yourown selfish desires, because

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that's where Satan's going totake you.
Take advantage of you.
And in 2 Timothy's, verse 7, itsays for the Spirit God gave us
does not make us timid, butgives us power, love and
self-discipline.
So when you are embodying thatSpirit, the Holy Spirit, he will

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give you the clarity of thought, the clarity of sight, the
clarity of hearing, the clarityof speaking, and it won't be
confusing, because Satan willconfuse you.
He will put you in all thesedirections and he will target
you based on your emotion.
So, before you jump to any kindof decision-making, sit back,

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pray, ask the Lord.
If you're not sure how todiscern, ask the Lord to infuse
you with the Holy Spirit.
But in order to do that, youmust accept Jesus Christ.
And that was the biggest thingI learned.
I was a power-hungry new-agerwho wanted to know everything
and I had to humble myself andsay I do not want to take the
sins upon myself when I knowthat our Lord and Savior, jesus

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Christ, died for our sins.
And he is the one that I needto direct people to, not me, not
the shaman down the street, notthe fortune teller, not any of
those people.
It is directed through Christand he will supernaturally come
into you if you truly genuinelyrepent and ask for forgiveness,

(01:09:16):
and he will show you.
Guys, I got rid of over 80books that dealt with the occult
.
I got rid of hundreds ofcrystals.
I got rid of idols Ganesh,shiva.
I had little idols all over mytarot cards.
I had over 20, 25 decks oftarot oracle cards.
God condemned me and he saidCaitlyn, I am not lukewarm.
If you're all in, you're all in.

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You have to give all this stuffup.
I didn't know who I was, Ididn't know my identity, I
didn't know where I was going,but I trusted our Father fully
and completely to lead me intomy new life.
And let me tell you it's beenthree months and I am on a
rollercoaster to heaven, not tohell, to heaven.
I'm going up and I'm going tocontinue going up.
So if you guys need deliverance, if you guys were triggered,

(01:10:00):
that's a good sign because youprobably rattled up, we rattled
up some demons.
They don't like us exposing thetruth.
Get help, don't wait, don'thesitate.
Get in touch with Justin andwe'll help you guys out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Before I sign off, I want to offer you guys two
resources that I think you'regoing to find quite helpful.
The first one, I'm going topost on my website.
Actually, both of these I'llpost on my website, but the
first one is going to beCaitlyn's actual exorcism that
you can watch on YouTube, whereDr Larson is casting out the
demons who entered her throughenergy healing and the new age

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practices she was involved in.
The second resource is going tobe a link that goes to a
webpage listing out analphabetized listing of all the
new age practices you shouldavoid as a Christian, and even
if you're not a Christian, youshould avoid them because they
can give you demons.
So go to my website,wwwjustindcom.

(01:11:01):
Win.
The homepage loads, you'll seelatest posts, click on TBE 14
and when the next page loads,you're going to see a link to
Caitlyn's exorcism.
Please watch it.
And you're going to see a linkto this alphabetized listing of
new age practices thatChristians should avoid, or

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anyone else.
So if you're confused as aChristian, like what is good,
what is wrong, what is evil,what can give me demons, that
listing is going to clear it upfor you.
So I'd encourage you to watchher exorcism and also skim down
the alphabetized listing.
If you have any of those thingsin your life, throw out all the
books, the materials, stop doingit, because you are going to

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get demons from these practices.
And if you've been involvedwith them for a while, get ahold
of me if you need an exorcism.
Okay, so just know you want tobe close to Christ.
You don't want anythinginterfering with your
relationship with Christ, sothat you can experience the true
fullness, rich love of JesusChrist in your life.

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Man, get rid of this stuff soyou can feel the intimacy, the
closeness, the peace and thelove of Jesus Christ.
You may be demon possessed andthis is the first time you're
coming to the realization of it.
If that's you, I'd like toinvite you right now to go to my

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website, justindeedcom, andbook a session with me.
Until next time, god bless.