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Can exorcism bring hope to someone on the edge of suicide?

In this powerful episode of The Blind Exorcist, I’m joined by Wendell Saucelo from the Philippines, who shares his raw and honest journey from suicidal despair to spiritual deliverance through Jesus Christ. Raised in a culture steeped in occultism and crushed by generational curses, Wendell reveals how demonic oppression nearly destroyed him—until the power of Christian exorcism set him free.

Wendell opens up about the pressure of societal expectations on men, the shame around mental health in Filipino culture, and the spiritual warfare that made it all worse. But through inner healing, prayer, and casting out demons, he found peace, purpose, and the calling to help others do the same.

📌 What you’ll discover in this episode:

✅ The hidden influence of cultural occultism and ancestral curses
 ✅ How demonic oppression fuels depression and suicidal thoughts
 ✅ The role of exorcism and deliverance in restoring mental health
 ✅ Why inner healing and spiritual counseling must go hand-in-hand
 ✅ Breaking free from demons through the authority of Jesus Christ
 ✅ Hope for men struggling silently with mental and spiritual torment
 ✅ How Wendell’s freedom turned into a mission to serve others

If you or someone you know is battling depression, oppression, or suicidal thoughts—this episode is a must-listen. There is freedom in the name of Jesus.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
exposing the darkness , revealing the light.
Welcome, my friends, to theBlind Exorcist.
Happy New Year 2024.
Woo, I am so excited, soexcited for this year Number one

(00:20):
, because Jesus Christ is sogood.
You know, as an exorcist, I getso happy, so excited, so
thrilled when I see Jesusfreeing up his children, his
daughter, his son, expellingthese demons, bringing inner
healing and emotional stabilityto so many people.
It is so thrilling and now thisis another year where he's

(00:43):
going to move in a powerful way.
Thank you, jesus, and happy,happy New Year to you, my friend
.
This is episode 18.
Thank you, lord, 18 of them outthere, and thank you, my friend
, for coming along on thisjourney.
I appreciate each of youcontinuously coming back and

(01:03):
tuning in.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I do this just to educatepeople, to let them understand
about exorcism, and it's justawesome to see each of you
coming back for each episode andtuning in and listening.
Thank you, I sincerelyappreciate it.
If you can, please join,subscribe to the podcast and

(01:26):
share it out to your family andfriends.
Thank you so much for doingthat.
You never know what friend orfamily member might find this
interesting and actually decidethat they need help.
You never know.
Today, in episode 18, I amjoined by a young man 29 years

(01:48):
old well, actually 30, he justhad his birthday, january 3rd.
His name is Wendell and he isfrom the Philippines, and this
is gonna be an awesome, awesomeepisode.
Seriously, I was referredWendell through Dr Bob Larson's
ministry and I'm still workingwith him.
It's a powerful testimony.

(02:09):
There are so many people thatare suicidal and depressed in
life and maybe that's you.
Are you suicidal, are youdepressed?
If that's you, you're gonna begreatly inspired through
Wendell's story.
Oh, the power of Jesus to expeldemons, to bring inner healing
and bring emotional stability topeople and align a person.

(02:31):
That's what exorcism does man.
It helps align a person withJesus Christ and his destiny for
their life, and that's what'sgoing on with Wendell.
There's so much here.
There's so much here that we'regonna talk about Wendell and
myself, his culture.
I mean temples still aroundwith demon gods worshiped,

(02:55):
animal sacrifice, all in themixed over there with Roman
Catholicism, christianity.
I mean it is so interesting.
So you're gonna find thisinteresting.
We are gonna talk about hisexorcism, where Jesus just moved
in such a powerful way.
If you know of anybody that'sstruggling with depression, if

(03:18):
you know of anybody strugglingwith suicidal thoughts, or maybe
they've tried to commit suicide, can you share this with them?
I think they're gonna findgreat encouragement here from
Wendell's story.
He tried to kill himself fivetimes and this is a testimony to
the restoring, merciful, loving, compassionate, healing touch

(03:41):
of Jesus Christ to a person'sbroken soul, broken heart and
body.
So, without any further ado,wendell, welcome to the blind
exorcist.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Thank you, sir.
I am very privileged tointerview you.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Praise the Lord, wendell, and I'm excited to have
you here on the podcast and I'mso excited I don't even know
where to start.
I've got some notes writtendown here, but this is gonna be
so powerful guys.
This is oh, this is a beautifulstory of the restoring power of
Jesus Christ through exorcism.

(04:26):
So let me just start by sayingthat Wendell was deeply troubled
.
He was severely suicidal andwas hopeless and as an act of
desperation he reached out to DrBob Larson's ministries and

(04:47):
sent the ministry an email andeventually he was referred to me
and when I got on our firstZoom meeting, wendell was not in
a good situation, extremelysuicidal, and we'll get into
this in just a minute.
But there was a lot that led upto his current state and this is

(05:08):
what I think a lot of peopledon't understand.
The traumas you've been throughin life, the generational
demons that you're born with allof this is a big ball of yarn
wrapped around your life thatbrings you to the state of
hopelessness or to the state ofcompulsive addictions.

(05:30):
Panic attacks, anxiety,depression these are all
symptoms of the demonicinfluence, the traumas in your
life, the psychological traumasthat you've experienced, and
this is so common with each ofus.
We're human beings.
We've all been through stuff inlife, and so had Wendell, and

(05:52):
it's been a privilege to servehim through Jesus Christ and
work with him.
Jesus Christ has restored himand we're gonna step into this.
So I just wanted to give you alittle bit of an intro as to how
I met Wendell and why did hecome to me for help.
But before we really get intothe exorcism, I think it's

(06:15):
important for everybody tounderstand the Filipino culture
that Wendell was raised in.
This is demonic, deepentrenched, ancestral,
generational witchcraft andvoodoo and temples and animal

(06:36):
sacrifice.
All of this stuff is stillbeing performed today.
Wendell, I'd like to come toyou just for a minute.
Can you explain to the audiencesome of these practices that
are currently happening rightnow?
They happened thousands ofyears ago and they're still

(06:57):
happening today in thePhilippines.
Can you explain to thelisteners some of the occultic,
the temple practices, thingsthat are around you every day of
your life?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think I am going to begin in our previous
generation.
In the past, before Philippinesbecome a first Christian Roman
Catholic, there is really a lotof worship of the nature that
really costs a lot ofstrongholds, the demonic, a lot

(07:32):
of impact in our lives,especially to me and my life.
Many of it like the worship,the sacrificing of the animals,
even really the lives of people.
But right now there's not muchof sacrificing of the lives of
people like the babies.
There's more of the animal inthe Philippines than just the

(07:57):
money and worshiping of powerthat gained the power of the
authorities from the Philippinesfrom the olden times and until
now.
So that's why corruption alsois one of the main problem of
our government here.
Because of that behind the seatthat is happening and also in my

(08:17):
family, also in our bloodline.
That really makes me do someall kinds of evil, because it is
written in the Bible that inthe love of money is the
beginning of evil.
It really takes a lot of eviland one of those is involvement
in witchcraft and manipulation,deep kind of deception towards

(08:40):
each other, especially from myfamily.
First, at the beginning Ireally don't know that it really
impacted me, but along the way,I realized that, even though
I've been a Christian for manyyears already, my progress in my
especially in my mindset, thestronghold it's very slower than

(09:01):
the others because of where Icame from, especially from me
that I'm the first Christian inmy family.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Thank you for sharing that, wendell, and this is so
important.
The culture he's in, like hesaid, before the Philippines,
they were human sacrifice,animal sacrifice, all kinds of
witchcraft.
They currently do not performhuman sacrifice, as he was

(09:29):
explaining, but they stillcontinue with animal sacrifice.
Then Roman Catholicism comes inand it's a blend of occult
practices and Roman Catholicism,almost like Santaria in a sense
.
Right, that's what happenedwith that as well.
You had Santaria and theAfrican witchcraft and the Roman

(09:53):
Catholic Church came in andthey had to accept Catholicism,
so they blended them together.
So you get this bizarre worshipof demon saints and all these
sorts of things.
But in addition to all of thewitchcraft and the occultic
practices in the Philippines andhe mentioned about money and

(10:13):
greed this has been a historicalissue in the Philippines and a
little bit later we'll get intosome of the generational curses
we broke off of Wendell, and themajority of them came back to
money, power and greed.
But outside of this in theFilipino culture there is a lot,

(10:36):
a lot sexual perversion and oneof the main things that is in
the Philippines.
That's huge over there.
And, wendell, I'm gonna come toyou in just a minute so you can
talk about this a little bit sopeople can understand is
homosexuality.
But in the Philippines it's anentirely different level because

(11:00):
it goes back to the roots ofthe ancestral ceremonies that
they performed for money.
A lot of the ceremoniesinvolved incest, homosexuality,
perversion, to appease thesegods so that they can get money,
power, etc.
So, wendell, can you explain tothe audience?

(11:21):
People listen worldwide.
I don't know how many peoplehave been to the Philippines,
but can you explain the level ofhomosexuality, perversion and
things like that in your culturethere?
What is that like?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I think I can also connect, as a continuation from
my last answer, the lastsentence of that regarding
poverty and love of the money inthe greed, because authority
manipulate behind the sceneseven the religious leaders, the
money, the worship of it.

(11:58):
Poverty is really one of thecauses why people do sinful
things in our nation.
That's why there's a lot ofprostitution, homosexuality,
even because people are veryhungry.
It means it's better to do eviljust to survive than to die,

(12:19):
because that's the mindset thatthey have given us.
But for me, in my case, it wasnot because I need money, it's
because of really evil peoplethat have been abused me.
When I was little I've beenincest by a gay.
It's already a miracle that Ihave not become a gay or a

(12:40):
disser any kind of relationshipwith the same sex, also because
of loneliness and also theisolation and broken families
happen that add to thatprostitution, because there's no
marriage, only living in andfornication.
And it's really, and many of itis really doing in the, even

(13:03):
though in the US it's doing italready publicly in the public,
but most of us it's doing stillbehind the scenes and because
they don't want the name to bebesides.
But there's really a lot goingon, especially in the kids right
now that they have available togadgets and also communication,

(13:25):
and there's a lot of placesthat's been legalized, also
unofficially by our governmentand religious leaders, where you
can do morality like that, andmany of it is also underground
just to keep doing other stuff,because if people are really in

(13:46):
need of money, they will bewilling to do drugs.
They were willing to sell drugsand buy and it's really very
hard broken that it's reallyhappening in our nation.
But I think it's also one ofthe really consequences, also by

(14:07):
worshiping the gods of theidols.
But despite of all these things, I'm still.
I believe there's it's not anaccident why I was born in the
Philippines also and I went withthe Bob Larsen ministry.
Since we're just in the blindexorcist.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Thank you, wendell, for giving us some insight and
perspective into the Filipinoculture and why this is so
prevalent there and guys.
This is really very impactfulto Wendell and he mentioned that
he had been molested as a childby someone who was homosexual

(14:47):
and he's had a lot of trauma inhis life.
Anytime there's poverty.
In my personal experience as anexorcist, I think poverty is
probably one of the mostpowerful demonic forces that can
corrupt a person because itstrips them of their dignity,

(15:09):
and poverty is a demon.
It's a curse actually it's.
It's not necessarily a demon,it's a curse.
So the curse of poverty isdesigned to kill somebody, rob
them of their dignity, and it'sjust an awful, crippling curse.
So, wendell, some of thegenerational curses we broke off

(15:34):
of him again we'll get intolater, but definitely introduced
poverty into his bloodline andso he has all of this stuff
against him and maybe you havestuff against you right now.
Maybe you have traumas likethis in your life.
Maybe you have demons in yourlife vexing you from the things

(15:58):
you've been involved in andsuffered in your culture,
wherever you may be.
There is hope, my friend.
We're gonna get into this.
Keep listening.
This is powerful.
So Wendell becomes he's aChristian but he can't serve God
.
He's having difficulty readingthe Bible.
He can't grow spiritually.

(16:18):
He's completely possessed fromeverything he's been through in
life.
In his mind, his spirit belongsto Jesus Christ, but his mind
and his body have demons.
So he contacted Larson andagain I started working with him
and he was extremely suicidal.

(16:38):
Wendell, I'd like to jump backto you and just for a minute,
not to give glory to Satan, butI would like for you to share
just how suicidal you were withthe audience, because there are
many people that contact me whoare suicidal, depressed, etc.
And so I would just like foryou to take a minute so that

(17:02):
people can really understand howbad it was for you.
Can you share with us how badwas the suicidal thoughts that
you had?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
suicide really is really from the root cause of
being poverty and some deep kindof hopelessness.
It's really so deep that otherleaders, church also unable to
help me.
It's not that they have givenup on me, it's just that they
don't really how to help meanymore.

(17:33):
And also to myself, becausewhen you are really hopeless
like you are, like just indrowning you are, you want to go
up because you don't know howto swim.
You don't know because thedarkness that is like it
weighing on you, me, is reallyso heavy.

(17:54):
You don't want to wake upanymore, you are just crying, no
appetite for food.
I've already attended four tofive times to kill myself by
jumping in the ocean, jumping inthe bridge, jumping in the in
the ship, jumping in themountains, like that.

(18:17):
Before I jump there's some kindof someone is really pulling
behind my back and my thoughtsthat I'm really that's the grace
of God in a merciful God, thatreminding me really to ask help,
right that that don't give up.

(18:39):
I'm not able to graduate in mycollege.
I came from a prime university.
The name it University of thePhilippines.
It's like the Harvard or theheart, one of the best college
also in US.
Similar, like status like thatin the Philippines.
So it's really reallydisappointing because I'm the

(19:02):
first one entered collegeuniversity.
Because here in the Philippinesthere's a background that when
you are the first son or if youare the son, you are the brain
winner.
So there's a subconsciousmindset that you're the most the
one to provide for your family,especially that my mother has a

(19:23):
mental illness also.
A parent is schizophrenia.
For almost 14 to 13 yearsalready she's a single mother
since I am little and I'm anelementary here.
So there's really a pressurefor me.
So when I'm able not to finishit and also I'm not able to

(19:44):
continue in the ministry that Ihave because I'm already sick,
because, yes, I'm not alreadyeating properly and I, despite
the prayer and I'm not up, otherhelp also by the other
believers.
There's a lot of trust issuesand a lot of bitterness.

(20:07):
That happened because if Jesusis really true, why is that
people or the being that myleaders can really help me in
that hopeless times, that thesincere like the one that in the
Bible, like the demonized, theone kneeling to Jesus and asking

(20:27):
for help, the grace to, becausewhen you win as a man, when you
are really man, it's really avery degrading in yourself to
ask for help, especially whenyou are emotionally broken and
suicidal.
That's why there's a lot ofsuccessful cases suicide in the
whole world by men in instatistics.

(20:50):
Because of pride they don'twant to ask for help other than
women and also they don't wantto process it, and actually even
pastors.
So it's really a miracle for methat I'm still alive and able
to ask for help and never giveup on waiting and asking for

(21:13):
help and praying also.
And one thing that really costby your depression is to isolate
yourself.
So that's, I think, the mostpainful thing and even though
you are in the midst of peoplein the church, the loneliness or
isolation just increases andit's really very hard at those

(21:39):
times to identify if it is ademon, if it is just really
emotionally or mentalinstability.
So I'm thankful for God thatI'm still a miracle since yeah,
since I also celebrated mybirthday last, just recently as

(22:02):
you listened to Wendellexplaining the suicidal
disposition he had, thehopelessness, the isolation.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
He attempted suicide four to five times and I think
it was a very good point that hebrought up that.
It's pride that keeps peoplefrom reaching out for help.
And even though Wendell wasthis low, trying to kill himself
four to five times, jumping inoceans, mountains, jumping into
sheep so he could be trampled,he reached out for help.

(22:33):
And if you're suicidal anddepressed, that's what you need
to do Keep listening.
This gets amazing to the powerof exorcism and the authority of
Jesus Christ in the innerhealing.
He was diagnosed withschizophrenia and he doesn't
have schizophrenia now becausehe's been through about four

(22:55):
sessions with me and there'sprobably more.
But wow, the Lord stepped in.
So Wendell gets ahold of me.
At one point after our first orsecond session I think it was
our second session Wendellemailed me and thanked me for
the help and wanted to back outand I'll never forget this.

(23:16):
I'm sitting at my desk prayingLord, what do I say?
And I wrote back and said ifyou want to stop working with me
, you have to write back and sayI want to stop working with you
, I am finished.
He couldn't do it and praiseGod he couldn't do it.

(23:37):
He wrote back a little laterand he said I'm sorry, the
demons are just so tormenting meright now.
So I said, hang in there, wegot a session coming up, we're
going to get rid of them.
Oh, I get so mad at them,demons trying to torment people,
man.
So this is how bad it was.
He actually went through twofull-fledged exorcism sessions.

(24:00):
They were both, I would say,roughly three hours each one,
and there was inner healing.
He felt great.
His mind started shifting morepositively.
That session the same thingLots of inner healing.
We're stepping through histraumas.
The Holy Spirit's healing him.

(24:20):
We're expelling demons.
He's feeling more positive.
And then all of a sudden, outof the blue, bam, I get this
email.
Thank you, justin, for the help.
I appreciate it.
And I was like I'm like oh no,satan, you're not going to take
this young man out.
I know the Lord has a plan anda powerful purpose for this

(24:42):
young man.
And praise God.
Wendell wrote back, said he wassorry and we got in the next
session and, boy, we did somedeep cleanup.
Oh, the Holy Spirit did.
Oh, jesus moved in.
Praise God In every session.
Listen to this, those of youwho are depressed, suicidal,
tried all the medications.
Nothing's working.

(25:03):
Listen to this.
Every session he kept gettingbetter.
Every session the Lord kepthealing parts of him, expelling
the demons.
All the inner healing of theHoly Spirit is beautiful.
Most deliverance ministries theydon't do inner healing.
They just kick the demons outand move on.
They don't deal with anytraumas.

(25:23):
They don't, and I've alwayssaid this.
We're not counselors, but weare Christians who care, we're
compassionate and we stepthrough those traumas with
people led by the Holy Spirit,bringing scripture and comfort,
helping them gain understandingas to how and why this happened
to them.
Because there's always thedemons involved in it.

(25:43):
Man, generational, satan setspeople up all the time to be
raped, molested and everything,because a generational curse is
people don't get this.
This stuff ain't taught inchurch.
People sitting in them churchesevery Sunday, fully possessed
in their minds and body,tormented relentlessly with

(26:05):
whatever it is.
It's time.
It's time, guys, for people tostart understanding that you
don't have to live that way.
I'm speaking to you, listening,right now.
You do not have to live inbondage in any area of your life
and if you've went fordeliverance ministry and it's
not helped, that's because theydidn't know what they were doing

(26:25):
.
They've not been trained andcertified.
Heal is a testimony number oneto the mercy and restoring power
of Jesus Christ.
He came to heal our brokenhearts, our broken minds, and to
get rid of demons so we canactually live a wonderful
Christian life.
But he's also a testimony, asis my life, to the effectiveness

(26:53):
of Dr Bob Larson's exorcismmodel in his process.
That bottom line works.
I want to swing back to Wendellin just a minute, but I want to
step through one of thegenerational curses that we
worked on and it was interesting.

(27:15):
Wendell had no problem fullymanifesting demons because of
his culture, because of the deepentrenched occultic practices
with the temples and thesacrifices and the demon gods
worshiped.
When I went in after thesedemons, it was an explosive,
powerful manifestation Fullytook over this young man's body,

(27:37):
speaking right out of him, justlike it did in the Bible, just
like Legion did with JesusChrist.
Interesting, real quick tomention about Legion.
Then I'm going to get back toexplaining about Wendell.
When the possessed man in thetombs came down to Jesus you can
read this in your Bible Jesussaid come out and guess what?

(27:58):
They didn't.
Then he asked what's your name,check that out.
So he says come out, he's JesusChrist.
They don't.
And he says what's your name?
Aha, maybe that's a clue toteach us we need to interrogate
demons, not just say come out.

(28:21):
You been to that type ofdeliverance, friend?
Were you in up?
It's all emotional, I'm free,I'm free.
And then you go home, fallright into a depression two days
later, or back into yourpornography or whatever it is.
Yeah, that's because it doesn'twork.
It just doesn't.
This is a process that takestime, friends.
So back to Wendell.

(28:43):
I'm working with them.
I go in after these demons fullblown manifestation, and they
were so mad at me because forthe first time ever, they were
confronted.
Ever and that's the case a lotof times with the people I work
with their demons have neverbeen confronted.

(29:03):
Have your demons ever beenconfronted, friend?
If not, then they're not goingto manifest.
Wendell, full blown manifests.
And it's the dragon that was tochief spirit, attached to a
generational curse that wentback to China, and I believe it
was like 77 generations ago.
These demons are forced, underthe power of Jesus Christ, to

(29:26):
tell what generational cursethey are leveraging so it can be
broken.
The dragon, symbolic of Satan,but 77 generations ago his
ancestors performed a humansacrifice of the eldest son to
the dragon.
Now this is important in hiscase because Wendell is the

(29:51):
eldest son.
So they perform a humansacrifice to the dragon.
They get into a blood covenantwith the dragon through the
sacrifice, and part of thisceremony was incest orgies.
All that's always going onthese things Sacrifice orgies,
incest, debauchery, garbagealways prevalent in ancestral

(30:17):
curses.
I can't say always, but quiteoften when it comes to
worshiping false deities, thereare ancestral curses in people's
bloodline that there were noworship of demon gods.
It was a murder, or it was arape, or it was an incest that
opened the bloodline up to thoseand passed down through

(30:38):
generation to generation.
But in his specific case, theirworship in the dragon.
Another generational curse wasthe snake that they worshiped,
human sacrifice, but basicallythey were coming in the blood
oaths with these gods for power,money and revenge.
This was a common theme inWendell's curses money, power

(31:03):
and revenge against thegovernment.
Every one of them, I'm prettycertain every one of them.
That was what it was about.
When you sacrifice to a demongod, like this, the eldest,
first of all you put a curse onthe firstborn child.
Moving forward.
They dedicated the firstborn tothe dragon for future
generations so that they couldget the power, the money and the

(31:27):
revenge they needed on thegovernment.
That ancestral curse was passedon through the DNA, through the
blood, to Wendell and noticethat they wanted money.
Any time you sacrifice to adeity and wanting money, you
open the bloodline up to poverty, and that was another thing.
Resting on Wendell's life wasthe curse of poverty.

(31:49):
That's just a little bit of thedetails of some of the
generational curses that werevexing Wendell, and through the
authority of Christ, thesegenerational curses were broken.
There's nothing more thrillingthan seeing the supernatural
power of Jesus Christ.
That is absolutely exciting.

(32:09):
Thrilling to see the Lord forcethese demons to their knees and
leave his child.
I always tell him that this isGod's child.
He's not your property, andI'll say that to you too, friend
.
You are God's property.
You are Jesus Christ's property.
Your demons do not own you.

(32:30):
Let me encourage you man 2024,new year.
Get rid of them, stop livingwith them.
Why would you let some entitylive inside of your mind and
body?
Why would you give them aquote-unquote hotel room to just
willy-nilly come in any timethey want and torment you.

(32:50):
Why would you do that?
That don't make sense to me.
I wanted to get rid of mydemons.
I'm like these things are out.
You're not staying in my mindand body.
That belongs to Jesus Christ.
You're out, I'm going to breakyour legal rights, I'm going to
get the generational curse andyou are out Furious.
I was so angry going through myexorcisms.

(33:12):
I digress, but back to Wendell.
These demons work spelled.
The generational curse isbroken.
He went from someone that wascompletely hopeless, absolutely
hopeless, and I'm gonna comeback to you in a minute, wendell
.
I'm sorry, guys, for going onso much about this, but it's so
exciting to me as an exorcist tosee this that the Lord drove

(33:36):
out these deep entrenchedgenerational curses, these
generational demons freed up hisson.
Wendell, was diagnosedschizophrenic, his mother's
schizophrenic.
He's not schizophrenic now andyes, there is authentic
schizophrenia.
Not everything is caused bydemons, but in Wendell's case,

(33:57):
when the demons were expelled,the schizophrenia subsided.
He has peace of mind, he hashope, he has joy.
Oh, thank you, jesus, and I'mgonna tell you what he's getting
into over there in just aminute.
I don't want to do that rightnow, but it's very encouraging,
very inspiring.
But before we go on into whatyou're gonna be doing over there

(34:19):
.
Wendell, share with theaudience what your experience
was like going through thesefour or five exorcism sessions,
getting these generationaldemons cut off of you, so many
serpents, so many snakes aroundyour mind and up your spine, and
cutting these things off,expelling them through the
authority of Christ.
What was it like for you goingthrough your exorcism sessions

(34:45):
and seeing Jesus Christ for youup?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
He reminded me that to continue to trust the process
and to trust Jesus, to focus onJesus and not on me, because
throughout the process before wemet, like through the online, I
feel very tired.
There's a lot of confusion inmy mind Before the time, before

(35:11):
a session.
Satan does not want me tocontinue making that decision.
It's not the Holy Spirit, it'sreally the demon that's
manipulating my will in thissession.
No one is really perfect.
Not everything will go aroundyour expectation but, as Steve

(35:32):
said, if you lower your pride,if you may like the others also
like me.
That me decided to stop theprocess along the way, because
some person is sure it's notreally working or it's been too
long.
They just need to humblethemselves and ask for

(35:53):
forgiveness that it happened.
Because, as what Jesus said,that it's not you, Sir Justin,
the Blandexus, who is doing thedeliverance, it's really Jesus'
power working through you.
If you surrender, it's reallymore, more than the money or the

(36:14):
time that we're going to investin the process, because it
really takes a lot of disciplinesurrendering by prayer and
journaling and going back toJesus and trusting you.

(36:37):
At the beginning it's reallyhard to apply these things, but
as you go along the way, as Godsaid, that he will never let me
go, he will never abandon me,because I have also a lot of
trust issues to authoritiesbecause of what happened in my
previous church.

(36:58):
But the Holy Spirit is enloyedin Jesus.
It really helps.
I'm really very desperate, butevery time there's a session
where I pray, in journaling, sirJustin and the Blandexus always
remind me.
We don't know how long willthis take, but trust, focus your

(37:21):
eyes on Jesus and trust theprocess and for me it takes all
of my being to do it and todepend on Jesus and the Holy
Spirit in my life Because ofwhat happened, and also to be
responsible also and not toblame or to make excuses,

(37:46):
because it's really the demon inyour flesh really making
excuses along the way.
So in that moment it's veryhard to identify.
But as you overcome it one stepat a time, the flesh, the
demons in your mind, sets thestronghold, because I also

(38:07):
learned that in your mind thestronghold is also being broken
one by one.
The demons also be weakened, aswe have thought along the way,
and also in the lessons and the,in healing and the counseling
also, and I'm really gratefulalso that I believe it's also an

(38:28):
accident why I met Sir Justinand the Ministry of Reverend Bob
Larsson, because, as I said, Ireally attempt many times to
kill myself, and not only that,I've been also in a road
accident.
I've been also been poisonedwhen I was little and there's

(38:51):
also a lot of chaos that'shappening in my family that's
also almost killed me, and Ibelieve this was also a purpose
why I'm still alive.
The God of Hope really holds meand he promised me in John, the
Book of John, that nothing inthe world has such a freeing

(39:14):
from the hand of Lord Jesus andFather God, and that's the thing
that really trusted me alongthe process.
So it's really give me thegrace to come back, because this
is also the one thing thatreally hindered me.
One of the struggles is mymindset.

(39:34):
Like you have reheard from SirJustin, the demon also speaking
that I really hate you.
There's really a lot of spiritof what you call that rage or
anger that is really oppressingme, or pride that hindering me

(39:54):
before the session to continuealso in my prayer life, and it
takes a lot of humility to admitthat there's really existing
like this and I'm thankful forGod that I'm able to surrender
and to being free from thosekinds of demons and also to

(40:15):
respect the money and theauthority, sir Justin, that,
even though he's also blind,that I need to see Jesus is the
one doing the digress and tohear that is the voice of Jesus,
the one praying for me, is thevoice of Jesus casting out the
demons.

(40:35):
But, with the help of the HolySpirit, I always picture Jesus'
voice and the cross.
Even though it is just online,I always picture the cross in
front of me doing the that inthis blood, and so that I will
not be distracted by what ishappening to me and also to Sir

(40:59):
Justin, because the demon reallymaking arguments in my mind
he's blind, he will not fail youin not qualifying those kinds
of thoughts, but the Holy Spiritgave me the grace to trust

(41:20):
Jesus and to trust the man ofGod that has been given to me,
like Sir Justin, and also theprocess.
So the bottom line is thisreally hope, even though our
hopes may be shattered.
The God of hope.
The process really cost meeverything like dying to set
every day.
It's not really still perfectI'm still on the process, but

(41:45):
it's a lot, much better where Icame, where I started.
It really encourages me to keepgoing on until I receive my
complete inner healingdeliverance, and also from extra
season and more than that.
I also want to know Jesus moreand my heart enters to know

(42:07):
Jesus personally, more than thedeliverance or more than the
benefit of it.
I really want to grow closer toJesus and also help also others
in the future, god willing,lord, that there's really hope
in the middle of darkness.
All kind of excuses orchallenges or stubborn block is

(42:28):
in front of me.
The demon or my flesh alwaysgive it in front of me.
But there's really hope thatthe God of hope, like in this
word said, he will neverdisappoint us.
We just need to trust theprocess and to be grateful along
the way.
It's really helped me to begrateful one step at a time,

(42:52):
because it's really helped me tostay hopeful by being grateful
along the way, the small stepsand the delivery job that I'm
able to do because of that.
So that's also that thing, theone, the benefits that also go
back to me Delivery job,encouraging people along the way

(43:12):
.
So it's really an opportunitylike that in my weakness.
It's really true that God'spower is being perfect in our
weaknesses.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Thank you, wendell, so much for sharing from your
heart there.
And he mentioned that delivery.
And when we first met he didn'thave a job.
He was not able to work.
He had a delivery job where herode a bike and delivered items
to people.

(43:43):
So in America it's similar toInstacart, except you're using a
bike instead of a car.
And so these demons this isbefore we met tried to kill him,
made him wreck, the bike wasalmost destroyed, so he lost his
job Again.
Back to that curse of the eldeston any time you perform

(44:05):
sacrifice, murder comes into thebloodline.
This is where he was before westarted working together.
And today, right now, the bikehas been repaired.
The Lord brought a person tohelp Wendell and donate money to
repair the bike, and now he isback working and God is bringing
money to the family, and hementioned that as the eldest he

(44:27):
is to support his family, andthat's huge in Asian culture.
And so now he is.
How wonderful.
And he also told me recentlythat when he does his deliveries
he writes on a piece of paper,a little note, something
positive.

(44:48):
Now we're talking about a guywho tried killing himself five
times.
Now he writes somethingpositive on a note and gives it
to the people when he delivers.
Sometimes it's just have a niceday, other times God loves you,
or a Bible scripture howamazing.

(45:09):
So if I wish I could have had arecording of Wendell when we
first met so you could haveheard him.
Compared to what you're hearingnow, night and day, it's
amazing and the Lord is going touse Wendell in a powerful way.
He is a first generationChristian.
He mentioned this, so it wasintense for him.

(45:31):
Lots of demons that he had toget rid of and enter healing,
and he mentioned this.
The process takes time and hewas impatient in the beginning.
He was impatient.
That's why people want a quickfix and I always tell the
clients I work with this isn't aquick fix.
It takes time, but at the endyou will be restored.
You just have to be patient andwalk through it.

(45:52):
It takes time and he mentionedwhich I was laughing on my end.
I was muted over here when hewas saying about the demons down
and he's not qualified, he'sblind and stuff like that.
The same thing happened to mewith Dr Bob Larson himself.
He was my exorcist, by the way,you can check him out at

(46:15):
BobLarsonorg, but Dr Larson wasmy exorcist for 14 months and
the demons would tell me all thetime craziness about them.
They'd tell you anything youcan to get you to stop, and I
had to intentionally say Iresist that through the blood of
Christ.
But tell me all kinds offoolishness in my head.

(46:37):
Larson's prideful, he doesn'tcare about you, it's all about
the money.
Stop going to him, you don'tneed this.
Or they tell me we'll stoptormenting if you just stop
going to Larson, all this kindof stuff.
And so this is very common.
If you ever do decide to go forexorcism, get ready.
And Wendell said he's at bottom, so he's willing to go through

(47:00):
this, he's willing to take thetime, he's willing to be patient
, he's willing to walk throughit and he's willing to change.
That's why he's journaling,that's why he's reading his
Bible daily.
He's putting in the effort,he's rolled up his sleeves.
And you can do the same thing,friend.
You can put forth the effort.

(47:20):
It's worth it, man, because atthe end you have peace of mind.
I talked to a friend of minerecently.
We hadn't talked in probably Idon't know eight years.
Just life.
Life takes you different places.
I moved, he moved, and wecaught up the other day and he
said what are you up to?
I said I'm doing exorcism andhe was taken back, eyes wide,

(47:41):
jaw dropped.
He's a Christian.
And I said I finally have peaceof mind.
It's quiet.
And he told me I have never hada quiet mind.
The demons are always talking.
He said I need help, man.
I said get ahold of me, man,get ahold of me.
So hopefully he does, butthat's the ultimate benefit
Number one closeness to JesusChrist.

(48:03):
Wendell mentioned that he'sgetting closer and closer to
Jesus Christ.
Like, deliverance and exorcismis fine, but really what he's
after is to be close to Jesus.
And that's how I was.
That's how most people are thatreally want to get through this
.
They want Jesus.
They want Jesus more than thetoxic sex relationship with the

(48:23):
guy or the girl.
They want Jesus more than theaddiction because they've hit
bottom.
They're tired of the demons.
Wendell was tired of his demons.
He's got to a level of freedomnow that he has actually
enrolled in the InternationalSchool of Exorcism.
This is an online educationalplatform by Dr Bob Larson.

(48:46):
He's got all kinds of courses.
These are 30 courses thatWendell is studying, for he's so
intelligent.
It doesn't matter that he wasborn in poverty.
It doesn't matter that he's hadthe hardships he's had in life.
He is an intelligent, bright,young individual.
I think you just turned 30,wendell.
You can correct me when I comeback to you, but he's got his

(49:08):
whole life ahead of him and Godhas separated him out as a
first-generation Christian to bean exorcist so that he can
start a powerful exorcismministry in the Philippines.
How amazing is this and thededication that Wendell has to
his studies to be certified asan exorcist.

(49:31):
He's already finished 10 out ofthe 30, 10 courses out of the
30.
In every course you finish, youhave to take a test in order to
get to the next course to take.
He's passed all of those and heeven did this when he was
deathly sick, sick, fevered,coughing in bed, could not work,

(49:54):
and he was still taking hisclasses.
Now, that's determination, myfriends.
That's determination and that'swhat's so beautiful.
You took someone the Lord hastaken someone from being
suicidal, jumping off mountains,jumping into goats, just
anything he can do to try tokill himself.

(50:15):
God spares him.
Now he is in his sound mind andhe's studying to be an exorcist
.
And I've told Wendell this,we've talked about it a lot
through our sessions.
His culture values educationand that unless you get educated
, you're nothing.
You're looked down uponculturally as somebody that's

(50:37):
subpar.
And I said, wendell, god's planfor you may not be to go to
university.
What if his plan is for you tobe an exorcist and do delivery
on a bike for the rest of yourlife?
And when you do thesedeliveries, you start finding
people that require exorcism andyou free them through the
authority of Christ.
Your inheritance is in heaven.

(51:00):
It's not in the fancy car, it'snot in a Porsche, a BMW.
Your inheritance isn't in thehuge house and the luxury.
Your inheritance is in heaven.
And what an amazing way toquickly invest in your internal
wealth than spending the timewith people and bringing them

(51:21):
through exorcism.
I am so excited to see what theLord's going to do here.
I get so excited about this.
I can hardly sleep at nightbecause I see the hand of God
all over this.
We are in the end times.
We are in the last days.
Christ is coming back soon andyou don't have to be extremely
intelligent to understand thatwe are at the end.

(51:42):
The signs have been done.
The Lord can return at any time.
It's time to stop playingchurch or half in the world,
keeping all your demons.
Get rid of these things, man.
And Wendell is going to be usedin a powerful way in these last
days to free people as many ashe can for the kingdom.

(52:02):
Hallelujah, I get so excited.
I can preach myself happy.
And that can be you too, myfriend.
2024, you can be freed up,restored in your mind, healed
emotionally, and then sit downand say Jesus, what do you want
me to do?
Life isn't about paying billsand living in addictions and

(52:25):
depression.
That's not living.
Jesus wants you free, friend.
Jesus wants you free.
2024 can be your year to getfreed up, so you can actually
sit down with the Lord and saywhat do you want me to do when
you can hear Him?
I can never hear God when I haddemons.
Never my mind was so full ofchatter all the time.

(52:47):
Chatter, all these voicestalking in my head, craziness,
and now it's completely quiet.
Oh, I can hear the Lord.
Believe you me, I can hear theLord now.
I said Lord, I wish I couldhave had this when I was seven
years old when I first found outabout you.
This is good guys.
This is so beautiful.

(53:07):
The intimacy with the Lord isunmatched when you get rid of
your demons.
Man, I play guitar.
Some of you know that, some ofyou don't, but in the mornings,
when I'll get up, I'll grab myguitar and sit down and just
start worshiping the Lord, andHis presence comes so strong it
just brings me to tears.
I can't even stop cryingbecause the intimacy is so tight

(53:27):
now, because there's nothinghindering it.
The dark cloud of demons overmy mind gone.
Now it's sunny and bright, andthat's where Wendell's at now.
And you can have that too thisyear, my friend.
You can have it too.
That's my encouragement to you.
As you all know, at the end ofevery episode I have my guests

(53:49):
offer words of encouragement toall of you listening to you,
suffering to you.
Who kind of sorta-ish thinksmaybe I have demons, maybe this
is demonic, causing me to do X,y and Z, maybe this is your time
, man, this is your year.
Enough playing around with thisstuff.
Let me encourage you to justget it done.

(54:09):
But I want to ask you, wendell,to offer words of encouragement
to the audience that arelistening.
There are people listeningright now, wendell, that have
demons.
There are people listeningright now that are suicidal.
They are depressed, hopeless,and they are Christians and some
of them aren't Christians.
All kinds of people listeningaround the world to this podcast

(54:34):
, and Wendell number one.
First of all, I'm so proud ofyou sticking through the process
of putting in the grind,putting in the effort, doing
what you need to do daily, inyour word, all this stuff.
Man, you're doing a phenomenaljob.
Keep up the great work.
But I want to ask youeverything you've learned.

(54:54):
Encourage these people, wendell.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
There's a word from the Holy Spirit that's giving me
when I'm really in bandage,trying to kill myself and like
that.
It's the word that if you aregoing to throw yourself away,
you know, in those kind ofbecause I'm really in bandage to
lustful things and to suicidaland depression and other stuff

(55:22):
it's said to me, if you're goingto kill yourself and to end
your life by your end, why not?
It's not really surrendering tohim 100% along the way, but
it's said to me.
But you can practice it, tosurrender, to keep hoping, to

(55:42):
stay in the process and be withsomeone.
It's more than worth it, themoney, the time that you will go
into invest, because the enemyis really going to tell you like
it's really worth it, worthless, nothing's going to change.
But in those times that youdon't feel that it's nothing to
change, even in thosedeliverances on, I really feel

(56:06):
very tired.
But after how many days orworlds I see the manifestation
of positive changes, I grow inmy self-control Like suggesting
there's no so much the peace ofmind, the self-control in your
thoughts.
There's no amount of money canbuy that.

(56:30):
Like Jesus said, he's thePrince of Peace.
If you really want also toavail with that it's really
worth it.
It's really worth it, jesus isworth it of our everything and
in the process.
I just need to trust theprocess and also to give you all
and to trust His promises thatit will be in the end.

(56:55):
There's really hope and the onethat I'm holding on before I
meet Sir Justin that he reallypromised that he will set me
free completely, not justemotionally, spiritually, but in
my soul, in my body, in allareas of my life, like that, and

(57:15):
I really I think that's faith.
Right, you need to believe,even you don't feel, even you
don't see anything that ishappening, to pull back the
promises in the dreams that hegave you.
Also, and as I said earlier,also, god will not really

(57:36):
disappoint us.
Maybe it will be hurt along theway because it's not happening
in our own time, but, like SirJustin said, we don't need to
compare with the world becauseour standard or values are not
earthly.
Our reward is in heaven.
It's not done because the money, even the freedom that we will

(57:59):
go into achieving, is justtemporary, because when we go to
heaven, we will not cry anymore, we will not.
There's no taste, there's nopain, there's no suffering,
because we will be Jesus and wewill have our reward.
And, as I imagine that when theenemy is really tempting you,

(58:21):
with many temptations, it'sclose by, it's really also
reminding it's really worth itthe pain, the sacrifices, also
the investment of money, thetime that we're going to put it
as a person, and also with thepeople who are also helping you,
other than the exorcists or SirJustin, the public or ministry,

(58:47):
your family they will alsobenefit because right now, as
you can see, I can also help inmy family.
I can also deliver and also beenrolled in the ministry.
If you really want to helpothers it's really hard to be
you need to help ourselves byasking for help from God and to

(59:10):
friend.
I think that's the first thingwe need to ask for.
God changed me first because wewant to complain or to blame
the issues or problems that wesee, but we really need to take
responsibility and to focus oneyes on Jesus only because it's

(59:34):
really worth it in this processand also I love in this journey,
also because you're not reallyalone.
The best thing that I feltthroughout this process, despite
the beginning, my patience andstubbornness of that already
giving up or giving into thedemons, into my flesh to stop

(59:58):
the dispassion is Sir Justin.
He's really very gentle, he'sreally patient and I believe
also the whole team is the samelike that, because I don't have
really any money to give to themor to pay to help me.

(01:00:19):
I'm really came from a poor,but they never give up on me,
like me that also want to giveup on myself.
Towards everyone who are hearingthis, you're not alone and they
will never stop, so don't stop.

(01:00:40):
If you have stopped along theprocess, like me, if you made
the decision, we have a chanceto ask for a apology.
They're very humble those firstone.
They're not condemning andthey're in the way they tell you
.
They just only firm becausethey want to strengthen a

(01:01:02):
resolve to make us reallydetermine ourselves to change
and that's all that.
You're not really alone.
God is with you and in thepublic's ministry and Sir Justin
was with you, even with you inthose lonely times.

(01:01:26):
They will feel that yourcompassion is also with us in
all those times that, more thanthe money that you did, more
than the time or being someonein the journey, is the best
thing that ever felt in my life.
That's all keep the hope alive,even though the hopes that we

(01:01:48):
have.
The God of Hope is also holdingyou.
If the God of Hope sold me manytimes already given up, the God
of Hope will also do it for youand the Holy Spirit.
He is really a merciful andimagine.
I'm so grateful and all gloryto God.
I believe this is a testamentthat no weapon for a man's, me

(01:02:13):
or us will not prosper.
It may happen, but it will not.
God is the final say.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
You may be demon possessed and this is the first
time you're coming to therealization of it.
If that's you, I'd like toinvite you right now to go to my
website, justindeedcom, andbook a session with me.
Until next time, god bless.
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