In this episode of The Bottom Turtle Podcast, Dr. Ray recites another poem entitled "Inspiration from reading your thesis". As the name suggests, it was a poem inspired by reading the thesis of Reasonable Fideist; A friend of the podcast from reddit dating back to the episode "What Else is There?!". In the poem, Dr. Ray muses about the nature of the subjective and objective spirits and the relationship between them. The poem attempts to capture the tension between being in the moment, and stopping to take account of what's happening in the moment. The flow associated with the moment is characterized by the subjective, and the labeling of the moment is characterized by the objective. The recitation of this poem is used as an introduction to the main recording of the episode.
The main recording is an impromptu conversation between Dr. Ray and Ryan Scott. In it, they discuss the nature of the incompleteness of subjective experience when trying to analyze the objective truth of reality mathematically. They also discuss how a purely materialistic worldview adopted by the likes of Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris is not sufficient to resolve the inherent incompleteness associated with subjective experience. Essentially, it is the recognition that subjectivity doesn't exist without objectivity and vice versa and that they are essentially not separate spirits. They also discuss this problem in the context of C. S. Lewis' treatise on miracles.
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