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December 30, 2023 91 mins

In this episode, Dr. Ray discusses the role of agreement in creating objective truth.  In previous episodes like It's Algebra All the Way Down and It's Context All the Way Down, the host makes the argument that objective truth comes from logically sound structures.  That is, to create objective concepts one needs a set of symbols and a consistent relationship between said symbols such that reliable meaning can be produced from them.  The relationship between symbols is constructed based on the syntax of the language which are the instructions for arranging symbols, in a sentence for example, to map to ideas.  But, for the language to produce objective meaning, the symbols and the syntax of the language must be independent of any individual.  That is to say the rules for creating meaning in English are independent of any individual, and the word book, for instance, can't  mean something different to each person.  The host also discusses how fulfilling these requirements of objectivity means that one can predict how words will program someone during a communication.  Being able to predict the future in this way is a necessary condition for successful communication.

Although logically sound structures are a requirement for objectivity, they are not sufficient.  This is because consensus is needed to imbue meaning to each word.  In the episode Are we in a Simulation, the hosts discuss the role consensus plays when building a shared reality.  Without consensus, the meaning of words are not shared and thus can not be used for communication.  This implies that any words used in a language are shared among those who speak the language and therefore do not belong to anyone. 

With these arguments on how communication works, the host presents his opinion on gender ideology.  Essentially, the host believes that ideas like men can get pregnant are not logically sound structures that can create reliable meaning.  He also argues that the attempt to force people to accept such notions is narcissistic since it's an attempt to dominate the meaning of foundational concepts such as boy and girl, woman and man. Such revolutionizing of fundamental concepts requires consensus.

So join us as we discuss the nature of objectivity using the concept of agreement and give our opinion about the trans issue from the perspective of information theory.  The goal is to demonstrate that one can disagree with gender ideology on logical grounds alone and that not agreeing does not imply bigotry or transphobia.

 Berkely law professor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU7nzwbJ-Hk&t=100s

Ricci flow:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricci_flow

Euler angles:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_angles

Adiabatic isometric mapping algorithm:
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0264-9381/32/23/235012/pdf

Half edge data structures:
https://cs184.eecs.berkeley.edu/sp19/article/15/the-half-edge-data-structure

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