May 13, 2026 • 33 mins
Today, we're having a little bit of an intervention. Because somewhere along the line, we all started designing homes like we were preparing for a magazine shoot instead of, you know, living in them. Trying to curate a Pinterest board and then curating a home, and it is just a disaster waiting to happen. I personally even realized I did the same thing in my closet. You'll hear me talk about it in the podcast. The truth is, we get so caught up in inspiration photos that we stop asking the most important question: Does this space actually function for my life? Is it going to make my life easier? Because if your kitchen is beautiful but impossible to cook in, or your entryway looks amazing but has nowhere for shoes, bags, or keys, eventually the space starts working against you, and you're going to hate that space. So today, we are talking about why function matters more than perfection, how to zoom out and design for real life, and why the best homes aren't the ones that photograph the best. They're the ones that make everyday life easier.
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Welcome back to The Boys.
(00:01):
Today, we're having a little bitof an intervention.
Because somewhere along theline, we all started designing
homes like we were preparing fora magazine shoot instead of, you
know, living in them.
Trying to curate a Pinterestboard and then curating a home,
and it is just a disasterwaiting to happen.
I personally even realized I didthe same thing in my closet.
(00:23):
You'll hear me talk about it inthe podcast.
The truth is, we get so caughtup in inspiration photos that we
stop asking the most importantquestion: Does this space
actually function for my life?
Is it going to make my lifeeasier?
Because if your kitchen isbeautiful but impossible to cook
in, or your entryway looksamazing but has nowhere for
shoes, bags, or keys, eventuallythe space starts working against
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you, and you're going to hatethat space.
So today, we are talking aboutwhy function matters more than
perfection, how to zoom out anddesign for real life, and why
the best homes aren't the onesthat photograph the best.
They're the ones that makeeveryday life easier.
Let's get to it
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (02:08):
we don't have to worry about Mabel
today'cause Jeremy's workingfrom home today, so she is with
him at this moment.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (02:14):
Oh, okay.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (02:15):
What he's referencing is before we
even started taping, you know,this damn cat of his Paul and
GNA and chewing and such adistraction.
So I started hitting themicrophone like my cute, like
the cat.
But apparently not.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (02:29):
no,
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (02:29):
No.
No.
Okay.
Well let tell you somethingabout the podcast.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (02:33):
today.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (02:35):
Well.
You're gonna hear it and you'regonna love me more than you ever
have.
So there you go.
Because let's see, yesterday oneof our super fans shout out
Ginger, uh, texting about doingsomething and, she was talking
about listening to the podcastand just, I don't know which one
it was, but she loved it andjust.
(02:57):
Literally out laughed, justhilarious.
So as I was pulling into theparking lot, I got another text
from one of our, many listenersof seven people.
And, Amy has referenced and I'mlike, oh God, I don't know what
I've said.
Or somebody said, uh, HughHefner of your compound.
Ha ha.
On my way to see my son drivingdown to Alabama and enjoying
(03:20):
listening to you all.
Wondering what I'm laughing as Idrop by.
So, listening to the podcast,giving joy.
So what was the reference aboutHugh Hefner's?
You may know because I don'tlisten to this crap after we do
it.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (03:30):
me and my robe.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (03:31):
yeah, I think that, I think
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (03:32):
Oh, okay.
Got it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (03:34):
Yeah.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (03:35):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (03:35):
I was like, I don't know what that
means.
Anyway, we got two of ourvaluable, many, many 12
listeners listening to us, and Iknow about it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_ (03:43):
I am so thrilled that we are
bringing some joy in this crazytime to somebody somewhere.
Well, today what I wanted tobring up was.
It was the, the result of twothings happening.
One was our sweet, toy who'sback in the floral department
who, does so much.
She mentioned that she had goneto this red carpet, or, her, her
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son does like behind the scenesvideo recording for movies and
things like that.
And there was a, uh, film and hehad done the behind the scenes
and they, they, they, it waspart of
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (04:16):
of the,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (04:16):
the preview of it downtown at the
theater.
part of
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (04:21):
the.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (04:22):
the, role of it was promoting
Kentucky for movie production.
And Dwayne, I know you haveabsolutely no clue what we're
gonna talk about today, butyou'll see how I get there when
I get there, when I get there.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (04:32):
I'm listening, I'm listening.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (04:33):
and, um,'cause I was supposed to text
you last night and then youknow, it, life happens.
But so what she was talkingabout was that people, has been
really trying to promote itselffor TV and film production
because we've got such a, abeautiful landscape and there's
such a wide range of, Placeswhere you can do so, you can be,
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so what she was saying was theydid a little promotional video
that had like scenes that weretaken at Shakertown and people
were in different kinds ofcostumes and it totally felt,
felt like you were in, inNorthern Ireland or Scotland or
different places.
And then there were scenes shotat, um, the horse park that had
looked complete and it was justlike all around the world.
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It was like at different timeperiods where, you know, you get
the right costumes, you get theright actors, you get, you know,
the scenes, you can make itanything look like it.
And yeah, just maybe remember,you know that it, oh, yeah.
When you see through the,through the film or through a
picture through Instagram orhowever, whatever you're looking
at, it's only part of thepicture.
Right.
You don't get the, the big,thing because last week they
were filming a movie downtown.
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Uh.
Uh, that's allegedly takingplace in New York.
So they had like faux subway,signs and railings.
Like you're walking into thesubway down downtown on Main
Street.
Um, and I thought it was justvery fascinating that that was
there.
'cause it's like, you know, youget the right angle, it makes it
look like that.
So pair that with, uh, had goneback to a client's house this
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weekend and we were trying tofinish up some things and rework
some things For the way thattheir living.
And I said, I said, okay.
I know how your life works then.
How does your life work?
Now, like, how do you need thisspace to work?
And she just kinda looked at melike, what do you mean?
And I'm like, well, I need toknow how this needs, like what
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do you use the space for, right?
Like, do you actually use this?
And she's like, well, I don'tknow about that.
I just want it to be pretty.
I thought, oh no.
Like we've got, like you, you,we, we wanna make sure that when
you do a, a space that you'redoing it with function number
one, right?
And.
you're gonna actually use it andnot just for it to be the
Instagram pretty, just not to beseen from that one perspective.
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And it was going in, trying tothink about how you use function
while designing the home ordesigning the space, because I
saw, there was a really greatquote that I saw and it said the
best homes aren't the ones thatlook perfect.
They're the ones that make youreveryday life more comfortable.
Beautiful and eatsy.
And I thought that is a veryaccurate statement of like how I
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know all three of us try toapproach it, but sometimes when
we get.
Wanting to create that beautifulhome and that we can share on
Instagram or just have friendscome over.
You kind of can get lost inthat.
And so that's what I reallywanted to talk about today.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (07:13):
I love it every, every layer of
that,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (07:16):
Does it make sense?
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (07:16):
and it's,
jeremy-guest737_1_04 (07:17):
Convoluted
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (07:18):
yeah, I do.
Well, the, the thing that comesto mind is, um, being
comfortable in your own skin.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (07:25):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0912 (07:26):
Right, and that means first, um, liking
who you are, but then how doesthat relate to your house?
What means if you are alwaysstriving for perfection, like
with your face, wrong answer,right?
If you're striving forperfection, for your wrinkles
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are good, right?
Wrinkles are good.
If you're striving forperfection.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (07:50):
Botox?
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (07:52):
I am not, you are gorgeous.
If anything, you are a vixen.
You are a vixen.
Um, but I feel like a houseshould have wrinkles.
Right?
I want it polished and clean,but if it's not finished or if
there's too many things sendingaround in the kitchen and
there's olive oil and there'ssomething over there, I don't
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care at this point, right?
I don't care that, um, we justactually randomly, had, a guest
over last night for a dinner,and he was there because, uh,
the wedding, uh, the, the, thedoom of the wedding is coming.
And I'm trying to get the houseall pretty and polished up and
again, letting go of perfection.
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But we're gonna get the columnspaint.
So this is Aaron, the painter,right?
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (08:36):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (08:37):
It goes back to the story I've said
before.
Um, I used to, we all, we allused to go to people's houses
and decorate for Christmas, forexample, right?
And we would leave work and goto somebody's house and be there
at 11, 12 o'clock at night,whatever it was for hours,
right?
And it's.
Wonderful experience, but manytimes I know I would go and I
have not had dinner
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (08:58):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (09:00):
you know, people wouldn't think
about it.
They're not being unkind, theyjust wouldn't think about it.
They're just, they're happy thatyou're there to get their house
decorated.
Meanwhile, I'm like two hoursinto it, oh God, I'm hungry I
got feed this fat boy, but nofood.
Right?
So I'm always very conscious of,again.
In the world that I grew up inAppalachia, you don't have a lot
of money, but you have food tooffer you.
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You know, food is a lovelanguage for me because of that
culture.
And so if you're walking into myhouse, I'm just gonna try to
feed you something.
I'm gonna, at the very least,you're gonna get a water bottle,
right?
I'm gonna give you something.
And so when Aaron was cominglast night, I knew it was gonna
be around the six o'clock, and Iknow.
Um, his wife is, uh, a, a nursethat works at nighttime and they
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have a, a, a newborn baby, youknow, about a year old, roughly.
And I was like, I bet this boydoesn't get a lot of home cooked
meals, right?
Because of their life and howbusy.
And I thought, you know what?
I can grill out.
And so when he came, I was like,will you break bread with us?
Will you have food with us?
Will you eat with us?
He's there to work.
He's there to, you know, look atwhat to paint and do that.
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But it's also, I know that, uh,you know, you should share what
you have.
So the point of all that is thekitchen wasn't perfect and
everything wasn't ready, andeverything wasn't put away.
Probably 10 years ago, Iwould've been a little more
angst about that, but at thispoint, I'm comfortable in my
bald head and my dad bought, andI'm comfortable in the house.
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And if it's not perfect, right?
That makes sense.
That makes sense, doesn't it?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (10:31):
Yeah.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (10:32):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (10:33):
The plates are setting on the
counter, and here's somenapkins.
Oh, I forgot to get somethingfor you to drink.
You, Hey, I'm gotta go back inthe house for a minute.
You wanna get you somethingoutta the refrigerator.
That's how entertaining shouldbe for me, right?
There's, there's things that areformal to set, but if you're
really just having somebody in,Hey, whatever you need to do, go
get out the refrigerator.
Go do it.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (10:53):
Right.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (10:54):
you know, I am even guilty of what
we're talking about today as faras our, on our primary floor,
we, we took one of the bedroomsand converted it.
Into our closet for the primary.
And when we originally did it,like there were, you know,
built-ins and we have an islandin the middle, and I wanted
there to be pretty littlemoments.
You see all the little, the,the, the beautiful closets that
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are, that are, you know, in, in,on Pinterest or whatever.
And you, you know, we were doingit way on a budget.
You know, our cabinets are IKEAcabinets, and.
So I, there was some shelvesthat we had that we would
display and whatever.
Well, our closet, ever sincewe've moved into this house,
even though it's big and we'vegot a room and we have the
island that we can fold laundryon, and you know, all the, it
has been a disaster.
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And I have to say it's alwaysbeen me.
It has never been my husband,his side is always really neat,
but my side was always a bloody,I mean, just, I mean, I am my
father's son.
I take it off, it'll kinda laylike it.
It can be like that.
Or if I get it out of the dryeror I, you know, I just wore it
for an hour and I know I'm gonnawear it again.
(11:58):
Like, you know, it may not getto where it was supposed to go.
And so you, the truth is thetruth.
God bless my husband.
Well, um.
Recently since I, have lost someweight.
I, I went shopping, I boughtsome new clothes and there was a
bunch of clothes I was needingto get rid of.
And I thought, you know, now isthe time that I need to try to
reorganize my side of the closetto try to do it.
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And so what I ended up doing wasI took out the pretty shelves.
I took out the, the, the nicelittle display spaces I had
that, that weren't functional,that they were just pretty, I
got a couple of extra, racks toput my shoes on.
And this is now, now listen,we're only going in like a month
on this.
So, you know, uh, it's, it's notlike it's a lifetime, but ever
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since I did that, the closet hasbeen perfect it's because the
way that I've set it up thattime was more focused on
function and how I lived and howI needed how this work.
uh, Jeremy, when we, he walkedin after I got, and he goes,
never seen the closet like thisever.
I can't believe it.
And I was like, well, you know,it's easy to set it up, but to
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try again, to try to again, tokeep it, keep it up right in, in
your busy life.
And, um, so yeah, so even I didthat.
I just wanted to have a
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (13:11):
I love it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (13:12):
And now I love it.
Just, I love it even more, eventhough I don't have a little
pretty display shelf because itactually works.
I'm gonna walk in, it looksnice.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091 (13:18):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (13:19):
So, you know, do you have those
places in the, in your housewhere you might have done, or,
or have you gotten this allright from the get go?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (13:25):
My
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (13:26):
Because
stuart-host109_1_04-23 (13:26):
perfect.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (13:27):
space too.
Yeah.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (13:28):
No, my house is perfect.
No, no it is not.
Uh, and I think the one thingthat I really, really, um, focus
on actually are, are thebathrooms because, you know, I
have a daughter his stepson.
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They have their own bathrooms.
Okay, that's great.
That's, that's a good thing.
However, both of them to use thehall bathroom and not their own,
which is kind of drives me crazy
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (14:05):
Yeah, with me too
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (14:06):
know, both of them have toothpaste in
there and toothbrushes and youknow, one has deodorant and they
have hairbrushes and all thethings in the hall bathroom,
which is the guest bathroom.
And I have said, I was like, youchildren have
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (14:20):
have your own
stuart-host109_1_04- (14:21):
bathrooms, so what
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (14:23):
what do we,
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (14:24):
to do?
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_ (14:25):
I don't remember JJs, but I know
Ally's bathroom is a nice, cutelittle bathroom up there.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (14:29):
there.
It is.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (14:31):
Taj Mahal, Taj Mahal.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (14:33):
Well in J's, bathroom is the old
master, so
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (14:36):
It's
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (14:37):
still a
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0 (14:37):
beautiful too.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (14:38):
Yeah.
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (14:38):
very nice.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23- (14:40):
That's right.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (14:40):
Yeah.
These kids are not slumming it.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (14:42):
no, I'm like, what do we need to do?
And both of them said, well, wejust like getting ready with you
all.
'cause you guys stand in thekitchen every morning and to
talk.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (14:56):
Oh God.
Go away.
I know
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_0 (14:59):
I know.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091 (15:00):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (15:01):
I'm reminded every day why I don't
want children.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (15:03):
like, ah.
I was like, do I need to have mycoffee in your bathroom?
So you'll use it?
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (15:09):
Oh.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (15:09):
know, but I, I guess that is their,
that's their comfort zone.
So it's like, well, I just gottagive it up and just make sure
the guest bathroom is clean whenpeople come over and there's no
spit toothpaste in the sink, youknow?
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (15:23):
And for, for a person whose life has
changed and the kids are movingon in my world.
You know what, um, came to mindone day, you'll, you'll miss
that toothbrush in there.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (15:36):
Mm
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (15:36):
Yeah, I know.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (15:38):
Lord, we're so close to this wedding.
I can see it in his eyes.
Lord, don't push him
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (15:41):
Oh my god.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (15:42):
the edge.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (15:43):
Well, no, no, no, no.
Well, actually I was gonna, uh,I didn't know what we were
talking about today.
I wanted, I wanted to do apodcast about, um, mothers and
grandmothers and moments andstuff.
So after we do this, and I'lltell you my little pitch, my
idea, I think it can be a sweetone.
So randomly I, this ties intowhat stuart just said, that I
went to a house yesterdaymorning and uh, it's a mom who
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works from home and has a crazycareer and she has three young
children and really.
Big, beautiful back porch withan outdoor fireplace and a TV
over it and a teak table.
Sounds all good, doesn't it?
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (16:20):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0912 (16:20):
Sounds really good.
But on the table was a Nerf balland some chalk written on the,
on the sidewalk, and thebicycles are laying in the yard.
And she said, I just want thisto be beautiful.
And she said, look at all this.
Look at all this.
And I was like, yeah.
And pivoted back to, and I said,and this is.
True.
I was out in my yard the nightbefore, not two nights ago, and
(16:43):
I was walking around and again,I'm trying to get this yard
ready for the wedding andfertilizer and green and
beautiful, and I looked at itand I thought, Hmm, no soccer
ball.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (16:56):
Hmm.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (16:56):
Lord, he is teetering.
Bless his heart.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (16:59):
on
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (16:59):
look, come on.
I'm look.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_ (17:01):
I get it.
It's,
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0912 (17:02):
you're right.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (17:03):
it's a major life change, right?
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (17:05):
Well, it's not, I'm not even talking
about me.
It's about all of us.
Right.
And it's, it's this, the, it'snot me really, honestly.
It's about what, um, the toolthat I used at that minute to
tell that client yesterday andto say to Stuart.
Uh, the soccer ball won't alwaysbe there, right?
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (17:26):
Yep.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (17:27):
right.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (17:28):
the, the tooth brush won't always be
there.
So I said to her, I said, I'mgonna make it beautiful, but
you'll want the bicycle one day.
And I said, so what I'm gonnasay to you is, do you have tools
built into the playground or inthe garage where they can put
their stuff right.
And if you don't have that, justlike what you just did for
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yourself, Jeremy,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (17:49):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (17:50):
had to reimagine, give yourself
tools to be organized, right?
So if you want to be organized,you have to give the tools to do
that with, and that's what ledto the conversation.
I literally can make this asbeautiful as it needs to be and,
and perfect.
But don't worry about it ifthere's some things laying
around, by the way.
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But if you want more of it to goaway than not, you have to
retrain yourself to retrain yourkids, to retrain, to make this a
beautiful setting.
But again, I.
Don't worry about it if thesoccer ball's laying out,
basically all that.
So I did two things at once,right?
I'm gonna give you tools to helpyou make it a beautiful oasis
for you because you are at home,you see it every day.
(18:31):
It's a mess to you and you hateit.
You want it beautiful and youwanna entertain.
But also realize if it's notperfect, if it has a wrinkle,
that's okay too.
Right?
It's all of that.
It needs to be all of it at onetime.
It needs to be all of it at onetime.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (18:47):
Yeah.
So if there's a place where youdrop your stuff every time you
walk in the door, that's whereyou need something to help make
it more functional, right?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (18:53):
Right.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (18:54):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (18:55):
that you've got that's not, that
nobody ever sits in, aresomething's wrong.
It, it's uncomfortable, it's notin the right place.
Like, you know what I'm, youknow what I'm saying?
Like, if there's things thataren't there or if you're
having, you feel like having towalk around furniture, things
are always in the way and it'snot conducive to how you live,
let's reevaluate that and makeit more functional for you.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091 (19:13):
Mm-hmm.
Did
stuart-host109_1_04-23- (19:14):
aren't.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (19:14):
your client get it yesterday when you
asked her how to live in thisspace?
'cause I love that pushback toher.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (19:21):
They.
Yes and no.
And, uh, the no, yes, no, theyunderstood it.
The, the, the, the no part wasthat they don't necessarily live
in this space as much as they,as they think that they might.
you know, the husband's concernwas, well, if we finish this
space, I don't know if we'regonna use it.
Um, and what I, I, I told them,I said, well, do you live in the
(19:44):
rest of the house that we'vedone?
He said yes, and I said, well, Ireally believe that's because we
made it work and function forwhat you need.
If you've got a mainentertaining area that's on the
main floor and then you've gotanother one in the basement, you
can't use both of them at thesame time unless you've got the
need to, right?
Unless you've got company comingover and you're all gonna watch
(20:06):
the ball game or a movie, oryou've got kids coming over and
you know, those kinds of things.
I can't tell you that it's gonnamake you go downstairs and use
it.
You probably will.
'cause it'll be new and freshand you'll like it for a while.
But the bigger purpose is whenyou do need it.
When you do need that tofunction, you are going to use
it, which they currentlyweren't.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (20:24):
This was how it was posed to me a
couple years ago.
And it was about the same, uh,situation.
And he, the husband pushed backand he said, well, and he
literally said, can youguarantee that we'll use this?
And I'm like, no, no, I'm notgonna do that and that's not my
job.
And I said, but what I, right,right.
That's not my job.
My job.
(20:44):
Well, Bubba, uh, well, uh, Isaid my pushback was, um, I
said.
You have this area.
I said, if you allow me to doit, what I can do is give you
the hope that this will be aspace that you'll use.
Right?
If you don't give me theopportunity to create something
beautiful and pretty for you, itwill never be used.
(21:06):
I can't guarantee it.
But if we don't do anything,there is not even the hope that
you'll use it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (21:11):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (21:11):
how I said it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (21:12):
You
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (21:13):
And
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (21:13):
a.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (21:13):
we did it and they used it.
And what, what, actually, whatit was, it was their formal
dining room that they neverused.
'cause they have a massivekitchen in their lifestyle.
So we actually turned it intohis bourbon room slash I put a
round table with, uh, fourchairs around it so they could
have intimate dining, but thekids play checkers.
(21:34):
They're gonna play cards inthere.
But then they ac so I actuallymade it become two for the price
of one, and it became his worldand he lives in there.
Right before it was this whitewainscot butter yellow faux
painted dining room, and nowit's charcoal and grass cloth
and leathered, uh,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (21:55):
Hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2 (21:55):
Chesterfield's Uhhuh gorgeous room with
bourbon.
And oh my, and, um, it, it wasdefinitely a complete reimagine
and, uh, he, but he heard me andhe gave it hope and they used
it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (22:09):
you know, even with our outdoor
area, like I always try toremind clients when they, when
they say, um, well we have that,but we don't use it well, is it
set up correctly?
And, and I always give thisexample, renovated our backyard
a few years ago, of in, steps.
'cause you know, it's a lot ofmoney and it's a lot of stuff.
(22:31):
but one of the things that wedid.
A grill and it was reallyimportant for me to have,'cause
I do love to grill out.
I'm not a great griller and I'llovercook whatever I cook, but I
do still enjoy it.
Right.
And I've been through numerousgrills.
Um, and so when we did this outhere, I wanted to have a nice
place where I could go and it,it would be there.
The problem is, it is too faraway from our French doors going
(22:53):
out, and I don't utilize it asmuch as I could.
Because it's a little bit, andnot that you, y'all know my
backyard.
It's not big, but it's just notright there.
And if we would've laid it out alittle bit differently, I know I
would use it, right?
So that's why I'm like, okay,let's think about why is it not
working, why do not use it?
And let's make that functionactually make more sense.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (23:14):
Well, let's, let's tell you, speaking
of grilling, take a a, awonderful red onion and you
grill it and put it in somealuminum foil out there in a
little olive oil.
You know what happens to the redonion?
They cook and they turn blue.
They turned blue
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (23:31):
huh?
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (23:31):
Well, mine turned a purplely blue
color.
Yeah, I'm just telling you.
And I was like, they tastedgood, but like Lord have mercy.
It looked like eating raw deadstuff.
And I.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (23:42):
well Lord
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (23:44):
I've just life lessons, like those
don't look very appetizing, butI get, I don't know what it did,
but you all tell me if thathappens to you all.
Uh, if you cook because likethey look like the biggest,
worst meal, I guess.
Like, you know, that shrimp thatturns that weird blue color.
That's what these onions looklike last night.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_ (24:02):
I don't think I know about the
shrimp I me
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (24:05):
What are you eating?
I, I mean, I love
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (24:08):
Huh.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_0 (24:09):
I
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (24:09):
Maybe that explains it.
Why I got sick at thatrestaurant.
Once
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (24:13):
be.
It could be.
Wow.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0912 (24:17):
shrimp is.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (24:20):
Well, you know, this is along the same
lines of when I hear people say,well, I've got pets, or I've got
young ki like kids.
I can't have anything.
Like I can't do anything.
And while there is tr, whilethere is a little bit of truth
in that, right.
I thank you, Dwayne.
He's making you shaking at them.
While there is truth in, I don'teven wanna say that there's, I
stuart-host109_1_04-23- (24:38):
There's
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (24:38):
there is truth
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (24:39):
You teach your children
jeremy-guest737_1_04- (24:40):
children.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (24:41):
the stuff you got
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (24:42):
Well, there's that.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (24:43):
and and understand that
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (24:46):
That they're gonna, yes,
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (24:48):
gonna be a mess.
A dog is gonna get sick.
It's just gonna happen.
I mean, sometimes you shityourself, but you don't make
yourself not sit on the
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (24:57):
Oh.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (24:59):
Well, it's true.
just happens.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (25:04):
Um, so, okay, so with that in mind,
God help us, um.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (25:09):
know I'm gonna get somebody telling
me about this one too.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (25:11):
Uh, that you don't, you can't have,
oh, I can't say it that way.
You should not.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (25:18):
have.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (25:18):
if you're working on your space and
you've got kids and you've gotpets use, getting a clean, crisp
light sofa is not the rightmove.
Right.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (25:30):
Well, no,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (25:30):
not using a performance fabric is
not the right move.
Right.
We wanted to do a performancefabric.
Uh, being opposed to slip coversis the wrong idea.
Like if you've got, so that'swhat I mean, like, know what
you're trying to live with, howyou're trying to do, do you need
to be able to wash it?
Do you need it to be able todefend everything, including if
(25:51):
your husband and or wife is adrunk and they spill all their
wine all over the place?
I mean, we
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (25:56):
Oh my God.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23- (25:57):
death, but she spills wine every
fucking place She goes, we, itgot to the point where we had to
get her a sippy cup, so youknow, hey, you do what you gotta
do.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (26:10):
That's
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (26:11):
is they have made, uh, huge
improvements on fabrics and so,uh, you, they're probably gonna
be solid and, but you can,they're, they're pretty Cheeto
proof anymore, so you can't haveit.
I'm with you.
You know, I did a house a numberof years ago and, uh, she was a,
uh.
Divorced or her children weregrown, so she was a home alone
(26:31):
kind of lady.
And so we did a white sofa inthe family room, uh, off white
and performance fabric so shecan have it, so they, it
would've never got dirtywhenever.
You know?
What I found out though is herchildren were afraid to sell on
it, but I guess she was so meanto'em when they were kids.
They were afraid to sit on it.
I was like, no, you, you, youcan sit on this and you can rub
(26:51):
Cheetos on it.
It's okay.
So sometimes just because youhave it should, should you do it
right?
Um, actually the house that Italked about doing the outside
porch, I did the, the familyroom.
Uh, well, it's people understandit's a house on Cochrane, which
is these smaller houses in thislittle area where we live that
are pretty, pretty tight littlehouses.
(27:12):
But this actually is.
Pretty decent sized house.
But anyway, it doesn't have aformal living room and a family
room and a den.
It just has one den one familyroom.
Right.
So it's got to be pretty andfunction with three kids and a
dog, the French Bulldog.
Uh, and, uh, we pulled it offand, but I took her old sofa and
actually had it recovered in akind of blushy pink colored,
(27:37):
velvet performance fabric.
And it has, it has little.
Pattern to it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (27:41):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (27:42):
uh, when I showed her this and I
said, what do you think abouthaving a great big pink couch?
And she's like, I'm in.
And she said, everybody's comingto that house and said, I don't
think I, when you told me youwere gonna have a pink couch, I
don't think I'd like it.
And you know, the picture that Iordered for her from the store?
It's called queen for a day.
(28:02):
Remember that picture?
That's kind of flower?
No.
Anyway, it's this modern.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (28:06):
but I just, because I remember her,
what you were working on, but Ididn't know the name.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0912 (28:10):
right.
So it has pink in and it hasblue and all it, it really is.
Um, I stuart the little skinnylamp, uh, the little brass lamp
from mm-hmm.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (28:18):
Oh
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (28:19):
it is
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (28:19):
Oh, yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (28:19):
that they, I ordered six of them.
That was her that where it tooksix or nine months.
That was for that house.
Right.
So
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (28:25):
okay.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (28:26):
I finally got that room finished.
Yeah.
I finally got that roomfinished.
Right.
So you can have a pink couch.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (28:33):
Yeah, of course you can.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (28:34):
feel
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (28:34):
Four pink doors.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (28:35):
pink doors.
Oh, that's right.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (28:37):
can have pink doors too.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (28:39):
Okay, you gotta tell the world what?
That's the reference.
Uh, I'm on the fence on thisone.
I'm like, I'm not sure.
So tell'em what you've done.
jeremy-guest737_1_04 (28:46):
Wonderful,
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (28:49):
Uh, in this
jeremy-guest737_1_04 (28:50):
innovation
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (28:51):
um, the front
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23- (28:54):
front,
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (28:56):
and it is a.
10 foot wide entrance and it isall pink.
Of course it's glass on bothsides and then one three foot
door, but, and it's pink on the
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (29:06):
inside.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (29:07):
And then Ev Oh
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (29:10):
Oh my God.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (29:11):
Wow.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (29:13):
I.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (29:14):
Oh, there's that.
Um,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (29:20):
God
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (29:22):
and
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (29:22):
and.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (29:22):
is a 1955.
So it's got the vibe.
It could be real
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (29:28):
You born.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (29:29):
Hmm.
Yeah.
Two, two years later.
Um, and every interior door isalso pink.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (29:39):
Oh, I don't think I realized that.
Every indoor pan indoor, youknow what?
You told me that and I forgotthat.
stuart-host109_1_04-23 (29:44):
interior door is pink.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_ (29:46):
I love it.
You know what?
You're making this house foryou.
You're, you are doing this housefor you.
And I love that.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (29:51):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (29:51):
Now I, I, I think that the painter
thought you'd lost your mind.
Is that right?
Did he question you?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (29:56):
went,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (29:57):
did.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (29:57):
he's like, uh, front door pink.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (30:00):
Is this the primer?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (30:02):
yeah.
And he went, okay.
And I said, all interior doorspink too.
And he went inside the frontdoor.
I said, no.
All interior doors.
He went, oh, I don't think youknow what you're doing.
And I was like, yeah, all ofthem.
And he did it.
(30:22):
He painted them all.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (30:24):
I love it.
I love it.
I can't wait to see this one.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (30:26):
yeah, it's, it's, um, some quirks.
It's interesting, but it's
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (30:32):
and that's what is the homes are
supposed to be though.
They're supposed to be you.
They're supposed to function foryou.
You're not supposed to be theother round.
You're not supposed to functionaround the house, right?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_0 (30:41):
R Right.
And you know, and I, and I'vesaid this before, I let, I let
the house talk whether it's
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (30:48):
Whether it's a
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (30:49):
house or whoever, and, you know, our,
our current home, um, it
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23- (30:56):
client spoke for other.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (30:58):
and I did it that way.
this one is.
Everything that I feel, sothat's why
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (31:05):
Oh,
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (31:06):
this way out.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (31:07):
Lord, my only
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (31:07):
that just went deep.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (31:09):
was this, if, if this house, if it
was on LSD before you got in it,that's, you know, it's the only
thing.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (31:14):
Oh, it probably was.
It was a hoarder.
Lived in it for 20 years.
Then it
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (31:21):
Oh Lord.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (31:22):
for five years and raccoons and
snakes lived in it.
So yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (31:28):
mm.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (31:28):
Yeah, it was ready.
It was ready to be refreshed
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (31:32):
I love it.
I love it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (31:34):
if
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (31:35):
So if, if sewer's new house has
quirky pink doors, is theresomething quirky about your
house?
I'm trying to think about mine.
I don't, I don't think I've gotquirky
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (31:46):
no,
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09 (31:46):
anything unexpected.
No.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (31:48):
uh, no, I don't think there's
anything unexpected.
I mean, it's a, one and a halfstory, uh, Cape Cod, or is it
what they call story and a half?
Yeah, it's a
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (31:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (31:58):
story and a half Cape Cod with
dormers.
And so we have a shit ton ofstorage and there's no
insulation, so there you go.
That's just
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (32:07):
He gets cold all the time.
Right.
I'd say
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (32:10):
know.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (32:11):
the, I don't know if it's a quirk,
but I'll say I posted a pictureof my house a number of months
ago at this point, and one ofour coworkers, uh, former
coworkers, they said, uh oh,that's curated clutter.
And at first I went that it wasMichael Str who said that, by
the way, Rob.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (32:29):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (32:30):
yeah, yeah,
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (32:30):
You can see, right?
You can see his personalitycoming through.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (32:32):
yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (32:33):
at first I was like, oh, that
pinched just a little.
And I looked at the picture andI'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm okay
with that.
I'm okay with that.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (32:41):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (32:41):
So if anything, the thing that I've
continue to preach is edit,edit, edit.
I don't have a good job editingbecause everything I have is
collected and acquired andstories and memories and all
that crap.
And, uh, you know, I'm notwilling to let it go yet.
So there you go.
So that if it's a quirk, it'slike, oh God, there's a lot of
(33:03):
stuff in here.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (33:06):
Well, listeners, if you have a space
that you need to reexamine,please think about how does that
space need to work for you workthat way backwards.
And I think it will make yourspace or your home much work
much better for you.
That's all we want in life.
well thank you as always forlistening, and we will see you
all next week.
Bye.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (33:26):
All right.
Bye.
Welcome back to The Boys.
(00:01):
Today, we're having a little bitof an intervention.
Because somewhere along theline, we all started designing
homes like we were preparing fora magazine shoot instead of, you
know, living in them.
Trying to curate a Pinterestboard and then curating a home,
and it is just a disasterwaiting to happen.
I personally even realized I didthe same thing in my closet.
(00:23):
You'll hear me talk about it inthe podcast.
The truth is, we get so caughtup in inspiration photos that we
stop asking the most importantquestion: Does this space
actually function for my life?
Is it going to make my lifeeasier?
Because if your kitchen isbeautiful but impossible to cook
in, or your entryway looksamazing but has nowhere for
shoes, bags, or keys, eventuallythe space starts working against
(00:48):
you, and you're going to hatethat space.
So today, we are talking aboutwhy function matters more than
perfection, how to zoom out anddesign for real life, and why
the best homes aren't the onesthat photograph the best.
They're the ones that makeeveryday life easier.
Let's get to it
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (02:08):
we don't have to worry about Mabel
today'cause Jeremy's workingfrom home today, so she is with
him at this moment.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (02:14):
Oh, okay.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (02:15):
What he's referencing is before we
even started taping, you know,this damn cat of his Paul and
GNA and chewing and such adistraction.
So I started hitting themicrophone like my cute, like
the cat.
But apparently not.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (02:29):
no,
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (02:29):
No.
No.
Okay.
Well let tell you somethingabout the podcast.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (02:33):
today.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (02:35):
Well.
You're gonna hear it and you'regonna love me more than you ever
have.
So there you go.
Because let's see, yesterday oneof our super fans shout out
Ginger, uh, texting about doingsomething and, she was talking
about listening to the podcastand just, I don't know which one
it was, but she loved it andjust.
(02:57):
Literally out laughed, justhilarious.
So as I was pulling into theparking lot, I got another text
from one of our, many listenersof seven people.
And, Amy has referenced and I'mlike, oh God, I don't know what
I've said.
Or somebody said, uh, HughHefner of your compound.
Ha ha.
On my way to see my son drivingdown to Alabama and enjoying
(03:20):
listening to you all.
Wondering what I'm laughing as Idrop by.
So, listening to the podcast,giving joy.
So what was the reference aboutHugh Hefner's?
You may know because I don'tlisten to this crap after we do
it.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (03:30):
me and my robe.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (03:31):
yeah, I think that, I think
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (03:32):
Oh, okay.
Got it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (03:34):
Yeah.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (03:35):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (03:35):
I was like, I don't know what that
means.
Anyway, we got two of ourvaluable, many, many 12
listeners listening to us, and Iknow about it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_ (03:43):
I am so thrilled that we are
bringing some joy in this crazytime to somebody somewhere.
Well, today what I wanted tobring up was.
It was the, the result of twothings happening.
One was our sweet, toy who'sback in the floral department
who, does so much.
She mentioned that she had goneto this red carpet, or, her, her
(04:06):
son does like behind the scenesvideo recording for movies and
things like that.
And there was a, uh, film and hehad done the behind the scenes
and they, they, they, it waspart of
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (04:16):
of the,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (04:16):
the preview of it downtown at the
theater.
part of
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (04:21):
the.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (04:22):
the, role of it was promoting
Kentucky for movie production.
And Dwayne, I know you haveabsolutely no clue what we're
gonna talk about today, butyou'll see how I get there when
I get there, when I get there.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (04:32):
I'm listening, I'm listening.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (04:33):
and, um,'cause I was supposed to text
you last night and then youknow, it, life happens.
But so what she was talkingabout was that people, has been
really trying to promote itselffor TV and film production
because we've got such a, abeautiful landscape and there's
such a wide range of, Placeswhere you can do so, you can be,
(04:54):
so what she was saying was theydid a little promotional video
that had like scenes that weretaken at Shakertown and people
were in different kinds ofcostumes and it totally felt,
felt like you were in, inNorthern Ireland or Scotland or
different places.
And then there were scenes shotat, um, the horse park that had
looked complete and it was justlike all around the world.
(05:14):
It was like at different timeperiods where, you know, you get
the right costumes, you get theright actors, you get, you know,
the scenes, you can make itanything look like it.
And yeah, just maybe remember,you know that it, oh, yeah.
When you see through the,through the film or through a
picture through Instagram orhowever, whatever you're looking
at, it's only part of thepicture.
Right.
You don't get the, the big,thing because last week they
were filming a movie downtown.
(05:36):
Uh.
Uh, that's allegedly takingplace in New York.
So they had like faux subway,signs and railings.
Like you're walking into thesubway down downtown on Main
Street.
Um, and I thought it was justvery fascinating that that was
there.
'cause it's like, you know, youget the right angle, it makes it
look like that.
So pair that with, uh, had goneback to a client's house this
(05:57):
weekend and we were trying tofinish up some things and rework
some things For the way thattheir living.
And I said, I said, okay.
I know how your life works then.
How does your life work?
Now, like, how do you need thisspace to work?
And she just kinda looked at melike, what do you mean?
And I'm like, well, I need toknow how this needs, like what
(06:18):
do you use the space for, right?
Like, do you actually use this?
And she's like, well, I don'tknow about that.
I just want it to be pretty.
I thought, oh no.
Like we've got, like you, you,we, we wanna make sure that when
you do a, a space that you'redoing it with function number
one, right?
And.
you're gonna actually use it andnot just for it to be the
Instagram pretty, just not to beseen from that one perspective.
(06:39):
And it was going in, trying tothink about how you use function
while designing the home ordesigning the space, because I
saw, there was a really greatquote that I saw and it said the
best homes aren't the ones thatlook perfect.
They're the ones that make youreveryday life more comfortable.
Beautiful and eatsy.
And I thought that is a veryaccurate statement of like how I
(07:00):
know all three of us try toapproach it, but sometimes when
we get.
Wanting to create that beautifulhome and that we can share on
Instagram or just have friendscome over.
You kind of can get lost inthat.
And so that's what I reallywanted to talk about today.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (07:13):
I love it every, every layer of
that,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (07:16):
Does it make sense?
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (07:16):
and it's,
jeremy-guest737_1_04 (07:17):
Convoluted
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (07:18):
yeah, I do.
Well, the, the thing that comesto mind is, um, being
comfortable in your own skin.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (07:25):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0912 (07:26):
Right, and that means first, um, liking
who you are, but then how doesthat relate to your house?
What means if you are alwaysstriving for perfection, like
with your face, wrong answer,right?
If you're striving forperfection, for your wrinkles
(07:46):
are good, right?
Wrinkles are good.
If you're striving forperfection.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (07:50):
Botox?
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (07:52):
I am not, you are gorgeous.
If anything, you are a vixen.
You are a vixen.
Um, but I feel like a houseshould have wrinkles.
Right?
I want it polished and clean,but if it's not finished or if
there's too many things sendingaround in the kitchen and
there's olive oil and there'ssomething over there, I don't
(08:12):
care at this point, right?
I don't care that, um, we justactually randomly, had, a guest
over last night for a dinner,and he was there because, uh,
the wedding, uh, the, the, thedoom of the wedding is coming.
And I'm trying to get the houseall pretty and polished up and
again, letting go of perfection.
(08:33):
But we're gonna get the columnspaint.
So this is Aaron, the painter,right?
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (08:36):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (08:37):
It goes back to the story I've said
before.
Um, I used to, we all, we allused to go to people's houses
and decorate for Christmas, forexample, right?
And we would leave work and goto somebody's house and be there
at 11, 12 o'clock at night,whatever it was for hours,
right?
And it's.
Wonderful experience, but manytimes I know I would go and I
have not had dinner
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (08:58):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (09:00):
you know, people wouldn't think
about it.
They're not being unkind, theyjust wouldn't think about it.
They're just, they're happy thatyou're there to get their house
decorated.
Meanwhile, I'm like two hoursinto it, oh God, I'm hungry I
got feed this fat boy, but nofood.
Right?
So I'm always very conscious of,again.
In the world that I grew up inAppalachia, you don't have a lot
of money, but you have food tooffer you.
(09:21):
You know, food is a lovelanguage for me because of that
culture.
And so if you're walking into myhouse, I'm just gonna try to
feed you something.
I'm gonna, at the very least,you're gonna get a water bottle,
right?
I'm gonna give you something.
And so when Aaron was cominglast night, I knew it was gonna
be around the six o'clock, and Iknow.
Um, his wife is, uh, a, a nursethat works at nighttime and they
(09:43):
have a, a, a newborn baby, youknow, about a year old, roughly.
And I was like, I bet this boydoesn't get a lot of home cooked
meals, right?
Because of their life and howbusy.
And I thought, you know what?
I can grill out.
And so when he came, I was like,will you break bread with us?
Will you have food with us?
Will you eat with us?
He's there to work.
He's there to, you know, look atwhat to paint and do that.
(10:06):
But it's also, I know that, uh,you know, you should share what
you have.
So the point of all that is thekitchen wasn't perfect and
everything wasn't ready, andeverything wasn't put away.
Probably 10 years ago, Iwould've been a little more
angst about that, but at thispoint, I'm comfortable in my
bald head and my dad bought, andI'm comfortable in the house.
(10:27):
And if it's not perfect, right?
That makes sense.
That makes sense, doesn't it?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (10:31):
Yeah.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (10:32):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (10:33):
The plates are setting on the
counter, and here's somenapkins.
Oh, I forgot to get somethingfor you to drink.
You, Hey, I'm gotta go back inthe house for a minute.
You wanna get you somethingoutta the refrigerator.
That's how entertaining shouldbe for me, right?
There's, there's things that areformal to set, but if you're
really just having somebody in,Hey, whatever you need to do, go
get out the refrigerator.
Go do it.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (10:53):
Right.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (10:54):
you know, I am even guilty of what
we're talking about today as faras our, on our primary floor,
we, we took one of the bedroomsand converted it.
Into our closet for the primary.
And when we originally did it,like there were, you know,
built-ins and we have an islandin the middle, and I wanted
there to be pretty littlemoments.
You see all the little, the,the, the beautiful closets that
(11:16):
are, that are, you know, in, in,on Pinterest or whatever.
And you, you know, we were doingit way on a budget.
You know, our cabinets are IKEAcabinets, and.
So I, there was some shelvesthat we had that we would
display and whatever.
Well, our closet, ever sincewe've moved into this house,
even though it's big and we'vegot a room and we have the
island that we can fold laundryon, and you know, all the, it
has been a disaster.
(11:37):
And I have to say it's alwaysbeen me.
It has never been my husband,his side is always really neat,
but my side was always a bloody,I mean, just, I mean, I am my
father's son.
I take it off, it'll kinda laylike it.
It can be like that.
Or if I get it out of the dryeror I, you know, I just wore it
for an hour and I know I'm gonnawear it again.
(11:58):
Like, you know, it may not getto where it was supposed to go.
And so you, the truth is thetruth.
God bless my husband.
Well, um.
Recently since I, have lost someweight.
I, I went shopping, I boughtsome new clothes and there was a
bunch of clothes I was needingto get rid of.
And I thought, you know, now isthe time that I need to try to
reorganize my side of the closetto try to do it.
(12:18):
And so what I ended up doing wasI took out the pretty shelves.
I took out the, the, the nicelittle display spaces I had
that, that weren't functional,that they were just pretty, I
got a couple of extra, racks toput my shoes on.
And this is now, now listen,we're only going in like a month
on this.
So, you know, uh, it's, it's notlike it's a lifetime, but ever
(12:41):
since I did that, the closet hasbeen perfect it's because the
way that I've set it up thattime was more focused on
function and how I lived and howI needed how this work.
uh, Jeremy, when we, he walkedin after I got, and he goes,
never seen the closet like thisever.
I can't believe it.
And I was like, well, you know,it's easy to set it up, but to
(13:03):
try again, to try to again, tokeep it, keep it up right in, in
your busy life.
And, um, so yeah, so even I didthat.
I just wanted to have a
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (13:11):
I love it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (13:12):
And now I love it.
Just, I love it even more, eventhough I don't have a little
pretty display shelf because itactually works.
I'm gonna walk in, it looksnice.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091 (13:18):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (13:19):
So, you know, do you have those
places in the, in your housewhere you might have done, or,
or have you gotten this allright from the get go?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (13:25):
My
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (13:26):
Because
stuart-host109_1_04-23 (13:26):
perfect.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (13:27):
space too.
Yeah.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (13:28):
No, my house is perfect.
No, no it is not.
Uh, and I think the one thingthat I really, really, um, focus
on actually are, are thebathrooms because, you know, I
have a daughter his stepson.
(13:51):
They have their own bathrooms.
Okay, that's great.
That's, that's a good thing.
However, both of them to use thehall bathroom and not their own,
which is kind of drives me crazy
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (14:05):
Yeah, with me too
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (14:06):
know, both of them have toothpaste in
there and toothbrushes and youknow, one has deodorant and they
have hairbrushes and all thethings in the hall bathroom,
which is the guest bathroom.
And I have said, I was like, youchildren have
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (14:20):
have your own
stuart-host109_1_04- (14:21):
bathrooms, so what
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (14:23):
what do we,
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (14:24):
to do?
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_ (14:25):
I don't remember JJs, but I know
Ally's bathroom is a nice, cutelittle bathroom up there.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (14:29):
there.
It is.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (14:31):
Taj Mahal, Taj Mahal.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (14:33):
Well in J's, bathroom is the old
master, so
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (14:36):
It's
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (14:37):
still a
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0 (14:37):
beautiful too.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (14:38):
Yeah.
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (14:38):
very nice.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23- (14:40):
That's right.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (14:40):
Yeah.
These kids are not slumming it.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (14:42):
no, I'm like, what do we need to do?
And both of them said, well, wejust like getting ready with you
all.
'cause you guys stand in thekitchen every morning and to
talk.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (14:56):
Oh God.
Go away.
I know
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_0 (14:59):
I know.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091 (15:00):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (15:01):
I'm reminded every day why I don't
want children.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (15:03):
like, ah.
I was like, do I need to have mycoffee in your bathroom?
So you'll use it?
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (15:09):
Oh.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (15:09):
know, but I, I guess that is their,
that's their comfort zone.
So it's like, well, I just gottagive it up and just make sure
the guest bathroom is clean whenpeople come over and there's no
spit toothpaste in the sink, youknow?
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (15:23):
And for, for a person whose life has
changed and the kids are movingon in my world.
You know what, um, came to mindone day, you'll, you'll miss
that toothbrush in there.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (15:36):
Mm
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (15:36):
Yeah, I know.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (15:38):
Lord, we're so close to this wedding.
I can see it in his eyes.
Lord, don't push him
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (15:41):
Oh my god.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (15:42):
the edge.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (15:43):
Well, no, no, no, no.
Well, actually I was gonna, uh,I didn't know what we were
talking about today.
I wanted, I wanted to do apodcast about, um, mothers and
grandmothers and moments andstuff.
So after we do this, and I'lltell you my little pitch, my
idea, I think it can be a sweetone.
So randomly I, this ties intowhat stuart just said, that I
went to a house yesterdaymorning and uh, it's a mom who
(16:05):
works from home and has a crazycareer and she has three young
children and really.
Big, beautiful back porch withan outdoor fireplace and a TV
over it and a teak table.
Sounds all good, doesn't it?
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (16:20):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0912 (16:20):
Sounds really good.
But on the table was a Nerf balland some chalk written on the,
on the sidewalk, and thebicycles are laying in the yard.
And she said, I just want thisto be beautiful.
And she said, look at all this.
Look at all this.
And I was like, yeah.
And pivoted back to, and I said,and this is.
True.
I was out in my yard the nightbefore, not two nights ago, and
(16:43):
I was walking around and again,I'm trying to get this yard
ready for the wedding andfertilizer and green and
beautiful, and I looked at itand I thought, Hmm, no soccer
ball.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (16:56):
Hmm.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (16:56):
Lord, he is teetering.
Bless his heart.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (16:59):
on
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (16:59):
look, come on.
I'm look.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_ (17:01):
I get it.
It's,
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0912 (17:02):
you're right.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (17:03):
it's a major life change, right?
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (17:05):
Well, it's not, I'm not even talking
about me.
It's about all of us.
Right.
And it's, it's this, the, it'snot me really, honestly.
It's about what, um, the toolthat I used at that minute to
tell that client yesterday andto say to Stuart.
Uh, the soccer ball won't alwaysbe there, right?
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (17:26):
Yep.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (17:27):
right.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (17:28):
the, the tooth brush won't always be
there.
So I said to her, I said, I'mgonna make it beautiful, but
you'll want the bicycle one day.
And I said, so what I'm gonnasay to you is, do you have tools
built into the playground or inthe garage where they can put
their stuff right.
And if you don't have that, justlike what you just did for
(17:48):
yourself, Jeremy,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (17:49):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (17:50):
had to reimagine, give yourself
tools to be organized, right?
So if you want to be organized,you have to give the tools to do
that with, and that's what ledto the conversation.
I literally can make this asbeautiful as it needs to be and,
and perfect.
But don't worry about it ifthere's some things laying
around, by the way.
(18:10):
But if you want more of it to goaway than not, you have to
retrain yourself to retrain yourkids, to retrain, to make this a
beautiful setting.
But again, I.
Don't worry about it if thesoccer ball's laying out,
basically all that.
So I did two things at once,right?
I'm gonna give you tools to helpyou make it a beautiful oasis
for you because you are at home,you see it every day.
(18:31):
It's a mess to you and you hateit.
You want it beautiful and youwanna entertain.
But also realize if it's notperfect, if it has a wrinkle,
that's okay too.
Right?
It's all of that.
It needs to be all of it at onetime.
It needs to be all of it at onetime.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (18:47):
Yeah.
So if there's a place where youdrop your stuff every time you
walk in the door, that's whereyou need something to help make
it more functional, right?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (18:53):
Right.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (18:54):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (18:55):
that you've got that's not, that
nobody ever sits in, aresomething's wrong.
It, it's uncomfortable, it's notin the right place.
Like, you know what I'm, youknow what I'm saying?
Like, if there's things thataren't there or if you're
having, you feel like having towalk around furniture, things
are always in the way and it'snot conducive to how you live,
let's reevaluate that and makeit more functional for you.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091 (19:13):
Mm-hmm.
Did
stuart-host109_1_04-23- (19:14):
aren't.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (19:14):
your client get it yesterday when you
asked her how to live in thisspace?
'cause I love that pushback toher.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (19:21):
They.
Yes and no.
And, uh, the no, yes, no, theyunderstood it.
The, the, the, the no part wasthat they don't necessarily live
in this space as much as they,as they think that they might.
you know, the husband's concernwas, well, if we finish this
space, I don't know if we'regonna use it.
Um, and what I, I, I told them,I said, well, do you live in the
(19:44):
rest of the house that we'vedone?
He said yes, and I said, well, Ireally believe that's because we
made it work and function forwhat you need.
If you've got a mainentertaining area that's on the
main floor and then you've gotanother one in the basement, you
can't use both of them at thesame time unless you've got the
need to, right?
Unless you've got company comingover and you're all gonna watch
(20:06):
the ball game or a movie, oryou've got kids coming over and
you know, those kinds of things.
I can't tell you that it's gonnamake you go downstairs and use
it.
You probably will.
'cause it'll be new and freshand you'll like it for a while.
But the bigger purpose is whenyou do need it.
When you do need that tofunction, you are going to use
it, which they currentlyweren't.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (20:24):
This was how it was posed to me a
couple years ago.
And it was about the same, uh,situation.
And he, the husband pushed backand he said, well, and he
literally said, can youguarantee that we'll use this?
And I'm like, no, no, I'm notgonna do that and that's not my
job.
And I said, but what I, right,right.
That's not my job.
My job.
(20:44):
Well, Bubba, uh, well, uh, Isaid my pushback was, um, I
said.
You have this area.
I said, if you allow me to doit, what I can do is give you
the hope that this will be aspace that you'll use.
Right?
If you don't give me theopportunity to create something
beautiful and pretty for you, itwill never be used.
(21:06):
I can't guarantee it.
But if we don't do anything,there is not even the hope that
you'll use it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (21:11):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (21:11):
how I said it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (21:12):
You
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (21:13):
And
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (21:13):
a.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (21:13):
we did it and they used it.
And what, what, actually, whatit was, it was their formal
dining room that they neverused.
'cause they have a massivekitchen in their lifestyle.
So we actually turned it intohis bourbon room slash I put a
round table with, uh, fourchairs around it so they could
have intimate dining, but thekids play checkers.
(21:34):
They're gonna play cards inthere.
But then they ac so I actuallymade it become two for the price
of one, and it became his worldand he lives in there.
Right before it was this whitewainscot butter yellow faux
painted dining room, and nowit's charcoal and grass cloth
and leathered, uh,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (21:55):
Hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2 (21:55):
Chesterfield's Uhhuh gorgeous room with
bourbon.
And oh my, and, um, it, it wasdefinitely a complete reimagine
and, uh, he, but he heard me andhe gave it hope and they used
it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (22:09):
you know, even with our outdoor
area, like I always try toremind clients when they, when
they say, um, well we have that,but we don't use it well, is it
set up correctly?
And, and I always give thisexample, renovated our backyard
a few years ago, of in, steps.
'cause you know, it's a lot ofmoney and it's a lot of stuff.
(22:31):
but one of the things that wedid.
A grill and it was reallyimportant for me to have,'cause
I do love to grill out.
I'm not a great griller and I'llovercook whatever I cook, but I
do still enjoy it.
Right.
And I've been through numerousgrills.
Um, and so when we did this outhere, I wanted to have a nice
place where I could go and it,it would be there.
The problem is, it is too faraway from our French doors going
(22:53):
out, and I don't utilize it asmuch as I could.
Because it's a little bit, andnot that you, y'all know my
backyard.
It's not big, but it's just notright there.
And if we would've laid it out alittle bit differently, I know I
would use it, right?
So that's why I'm like, okay,let's think about why is it not
working, why do not use it?
And let's make that functionactually make more sense.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (23:14):
Well, let's, let's tell you, speaking
of grilling, take a a, awonderful red onion and you
grill it and put it in somealuminum foil out there in a
little olive oil.
You know what happens to the redonion?
They cook and they turn blue.
They turned blue
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (23:31):
huh?
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (23:31):
Well, mine turned a purplely blue
color.
Yeah, I'm just telling you.
And I was like, they tastedgood, but like Lord have mercy.
It looked like eating raw deadstuff.
And I.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (23:42):
well Lord
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (23:44):
I've just life lessons, like those
don't look very appetizing, butI get, I don't know what it did,
but you all tell me if thathappens to you all.
Uh, if you cook because likethey look like the biggest,
worst meal, I guess.
Like, you know, that shrimp thatturns that weird blue color.
That's what these onions looklike last night.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_ (24:02):
I don't think I know about the
shrimp I me
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (24:05):
What are you eating?
I, I mean, I love
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (24:08):
Huh.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_0 (24:09):
I
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (24:09):
Maybe that explains it.
Why I got sick at thatrestaurant.
Once
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (24:13):
be.
It could be.
Wow.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0912 (24:17):
shrimp is.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (24:20):
Well, you know, this is along the same
lines of when I hear people say,well, I've got pets, or I've got
young ki like kids.
I can't have anything.
Like I can't do anything.
And while there is tr, whilethere is a little bit of truth
in that, right.
I thank you, Dwayne.
He's making you shaking at them.
While there is truth in, I don'teven wanna say that there's, I
stuart-host109_1_04-23- (24:38):
There's
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (24:38):
there is truth
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (24:39):
You teach your children
jeremy-guest737_1_04- (24:40):
children.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (24:41):
the stuff you got
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (24:42):
Well, there's that.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (24:43):
and and understand that
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (24:46):
That they're gonna, yes,
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (24:48):
gonna be a mess.
A dog is gonna get sick.
It's just gonna happen.
I mean, sometimes you shityourself, but you don't make
yourself not sit on the
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (24:57):
Oh.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (24:59):
Well, it's true.
just happens.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (25:04):
Um, so, okay, so with that in mind,
God help us, um.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (25:09):
know I'm gonna get somebody telling
me about this one too.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (25:11):
Uh, that you don't, you can't have,
oh, I can't say it that way.
You should not.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (25:18):
have.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (25:18):
if you're working on your space and
you've got kids and you've gotpets use, getting a clean, crisp
light sofa is not the rightmove.
Right.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (25:30):
Well, no,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (25:30):
not using a performance fabric is
not the right move.
Right.
We wanted to do a performancefabric.
Uh, being opposed to slip coversis the wrong idea.
Like if you've got, so that'swhat I mean, like, know what
you're trying to live with, howyou're trying to do, do you need
to be able to wash it?
Do you need it to be able todefend everything, including if
(25:51):
your husband and or wife is adrunk and they spill all their
wine all over the place?
I mean, we
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (25:56):
Oh my God.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23- (25:57):
death, but she spills wine every
fucking place She goes, we, itgot to the point where we had to
get her a sippy cup, so youknow, hey, you do what you gotta
do.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2 (26:10):
That's
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (26:11):
is they have made, uh, huge
improvements on fabrics and so,uh, you, they're probably gonna
be solid and, but you can,they're, they're pretty Cheeto
proof anymore, so you can't haveit.
I'm with you.
You know, I did a house a numberof years ago and, uh, she was a,
uh.
Divorced or her children weregrown, so she was a home alone
(26:31):
kind of lady.
And so we did a white sofa inthe family room, uh, off white
and performance fabric so shecan have it, so they, it
would've never got dirtywhenever.
You know?
What I found out though is herchildren were afraid to sell on
it, but I guess she was so meanto'em when they were kids.
They were afraid to sit on it.
I was like, no, you, you, youcan sit on this and you can rub
(26:51):
Cheetos on it.
It's okay.
So sometimes just because youhave it should, should you do it
right?
Um, actually the house that Italked about doing the outside
porch, I did the, the familyroom.
Uh, well, it's people understandit's a house on Cochrane, which
is these smaller houses in thislittle area where we live that
are pretty, pretty tight littlehouses.
(27:12):
But this actually is.
Pretty decent sized house.
But anyway, it doesn't have aformal living room and a family
room and a den.
It just has one den one familyroom.
Right.
So it's got to be pretty andfunction with three kids and a
dog, the French Bulldog.
Uh, and, uh, we pulled it offand, but I took her old sofa and
actually had it recovered in akind of blushy pink colored,
(27:37):
velvet performance fabric.
And it has, it has little.
Pattern to it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (27:41):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (27:42):
uh, when I showed her this and I
said, what do you think abouthaving a great big pink couch?
And she's like, I'm in.
And she said, everybody's comingto that house and said, I don't
think I, when you told me youwere gonna have a pink couch, I
don't think I'd like it.
And you know, the picture that Iordered for her from the store?
It's called queen for a day.
(28:02):
Remember that picture?
That's kind of flower?
No.
Anyway, it's this modern.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (28:06):
but I just, because I remember her,
what you were working on, but Ididn't know the name.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_0912 (28:10):
right.
So it has pink in and it hasblue and all it, it really is.
Um, I stuart the little skinnylamp, uh, the little brass lamp
from mm-hmm.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (28:18):
Oh
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (28:19):
it is
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (28:19):
Oh, yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (28:19):
that they, I ordered six of them.
That was her that where it tooksix or nine months.
That was for that house.
Right.
So
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (28:25):
okay.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (28:26):
I finally got that room finished.
Yeah.
I finally got that roomfinished.
Right.
So you can have a pink couch.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (28:33):
Yeah, of course you can.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (28:34):
feel
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (28:34):
Four pink doors.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (28:35):
pink doors.
Oh, that's right.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (28:37):
can have pink doors too.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (28:39):
Okay, you gotta tell the world what?
That's the reference.
Uh, I'm on the fence on thisone.
I'm like, I'm not sure.
So tell'em what you've done.
jeremy-guest737_1_04 (28:46):
Wonderful,
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (28:49):
Uh, in this
jeremy-guest737_1_04 (28:50):
innovation
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (28:51):
um, the front
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23- (28:54):
front,
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (28:56):
and it is a.
10 foot wide entrance and it isall pink.
Of course it's glass on bothsides and then one three foot
door, but, and it's pink on the
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (29:06):
inside.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (29:07):
And then Ev Oh
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (29:10):
Oh my God.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (29:11):
Wow.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (29:13):
I.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (29:14):
Oh, there's that.
Um,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (29:20):
God
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (29:22):
and
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (29:22):
and.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_ (29:22):
is a 1955.
So it's got the vibe.
It could be real
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (29:28):
You born.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (29:29):
Hmm.
Yeah.
Two, two years later.
Um, and every interior door isalso pink.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (29:39):
Oh, I don't think I realized that.
Every indoor pan indoor, youknow what?
You told me that and I forgotthat.
stuart-host109_1_04-23 (29:44):
interior door is pink.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_ (29:46):
I love it.
You know what?
You're making this house foryou.
You're, you are doing this housefor you.
And I love that.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (29:51):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (29:51):
Now I, I, I think that the painter
thought you'd lost your mind.
Is that right?
Did he question you?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (29:56):
went,
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-20 (29:57):
did.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (29:57):
he's like, uh, front door pink.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (30:00):
Is this the primer?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (30:02):
yeah.
And he went, okay.
And I said, all interior doorspink too.
And he went inside the frontdoor.
I said, no.
All interior doors.
He went, oh, I don't think youknow what you're doing.
And I was like, yeah, all ofthem.
And he did it.
(30:22):
He painted them all.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (30:24):
I love it.
I love it.
I can't wait to see this one.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (30:26):
yeah, it's, it's, um, some quirks.
It's interesting, but it's
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (30:32):
and that's what is the homes are
supposed to be though.
They're supposed to be you.
They're supposed to function foryou.
You're not supposed to be theother round.
You're not supposed to functionaround the house, right?
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_0 (30:41):
R Right.
And you know, and I, and I'vesaid this before, I let, I let
the house talk whether it's
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23 (30:48):
Whether it's a
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (30:49):
house or whoever, and, you know, our,
our current home, um, it
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23- (30:56):
client spoke for other.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (30:58):
and I did it that way.
this one is.
Everything that I feel, sothat's why
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (31:05):
Oh,
stuart-host109_1_04-23-202 (31:06):
this way out.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (31:07):
Lord, my only
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (31:07):
that just went deep.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (31:09):
was this, if, if this house, if it
was on LSD before you got in it,that's, you know, it's the only
thing.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (31:14):
Oh, it probably was.
It was a hoarder.
Lived in it for 20 years.
Then it
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (31:21):
Oh Lord.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (31:22):
for five years and raccoons and
snakes lived in it.
So yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (31:28):
mm.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (31:28):
Yeah, it was ready.
It was ready to be refreshed
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (31:32):
I love it.
I love it.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026 (31:34):
if
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (31:35):
So if, if sewer's new house has
quirky pink doors, is theresomething quirky about your
house?
I'm trying to think about mine.
I don't, I don't think I've gotquirky
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (31:46):
no,
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09 (31:46):
anything unexpected.
No.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-202 (31:48):
uh, no, I don't think there's
anything unexpected.
I mean, it's a, one and a halfstory, uh, Cape Cod, or is it
what they call story and a half?
Yeah, it's a
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_09122 (31:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (31:58):
story and a half Cape Cod with
dormers.
And so we have a shit ton ofstorage and there's no
insulation, so there you go.
That's just
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (32:07):
He gets cold all the time.
Right.
I'd say
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (32:10):
know.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (32:11):
the, I don't know if it's a quirk,
but I'll say I posted a pictureof my house a number of months
ago at this point, and one ofour coworkers, uh, former
coworkers, they said, uh oh,that's curated clutter.
And at first I went that it wasMichael Str who said that, by
the way, Rob.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (32:29):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (32:30):
yeah, yeah,
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (32:30):
You can see, right?
You can see his personalitycoming through.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (32:32):
yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (32:33):
at first I was like, oh, that
pinched just a little.
And I looked at the picture andI'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm okay
with that.
I'm okay with that.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-20 (32:41):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 (32:41):
So if anything, the thing that I've
continue to preach is edit,edit, edit.
I don't have a good job editingbecause everything I have is
collected and acquired andstories and memories and all
that crap.
And, uh, you know, I'm notwilling to let it go yet.
So there you go.
So that if it's a quirk, it'slike, oh God, there's a lot of
(33:03):
stuff in here.
jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2 (33:06):
Well, listeners, if you have a space
that you need to reexamine,please think about how does that
space need to work for you workthat way backwards.
And I think it will make yourspace or your home much work
much better for you.
That's all we want in life.
well thank you as always forlistening, and we will see you
all next week.
Bye.
stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026 (33:26):
All right.
Bye.
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