October 26, 2023 • 25 mins
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Ready for an exhilarating journey from the skyscrapers of New York to the glimmering sands of Dubai? Hold on tight as our esteemed guest, Kelly Robinson, an international real estate maverick, takes you on a thrilling adventure through her world. Fresh off her globe-spanning travels, Kelly shares her unique insights on navigating the complex cultural landscapes.
Kelly lets us in on her multifaceted life, juggling real estate, athlete education, podcasting, and a surprising leap into the pet products market. She shares her passion for empowering athletes to amass wealth through property investments, underscoring the significance of tangible assets. Our journey takes an inspiring detour as we explore her podcast where she showcases stories of failure turning into triumph, a transformation she believes can guide anyone to success.
Get ready to explore the value of empathy and collaboration in the world of business as we traverse through Kelly's world. She passionately discusses putting relationships above transactions, embracing failure as a stepping stone to success, and her staunch commitment to uplifting other women in business. Kelly advocates for a cooperative approach over a cutthroat mentality, a refreshing perspective in the often competitive industry. So fasten your seat belts and join us on this international real estate odyssey, and prepare to mine some golden nuggets of life and business wisdom along the way.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, this is Brad Weissman.
You're listening to Real Estateand you we are back in the
studio with another specialguest.
We got some really good guestscoming in, lili, I gotta tell
you I'm very excited about theguest today.
She is back here in New YorkCity fresh from Dubai and she is
all over the place in RealEstate.
She's doing all kinds of things.
(00:21):
She also is gonna be starting awebsite for pets, selling used
pet stuff.
I mean, it's pretty interestingwhat she's doing, but without
any other delay here.
Kelly Robinson, how are youdoing today?
Good, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm doing great, I'm just gonna say how much I love
your intro.
Oh, thank you it's a greatvoice and you're so engaging and
like I wish I could do that.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, I've seen your show and you do a fantastic job.
You do Absolutely.
I've watched a couple of yourepisodes of watching little
pieces here and there, because Ialways like to see other
podcasts.
I do.
I.
Do you learn from each one youlisten to?
As a way I look at it?
Thanks for being here so freshfrom Dubai.
When did you get back fromDubai?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I think I got back Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Tuesday Wow, and so you're all upside down.
Are you back to your normalsleep patterns and all those
things?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm getting there.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, it takes a while.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I woke up at 3.30, which was the best I've done in
a while.
Wow, I think I fell asleep atlike 7.45 last night.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, that's so weird becauseit takes, like you said, it's an
eight-hour difference and thatjust really is hard to get your
body back into that patternagain of our time here in New
York, where you're in New Yorkand I'm here in Reading, but
same time period.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, and I always try and time it when I sleep on
the flights.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, but you always have to adjust, but you know
what it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Absolutely.
I've seen pictures and I'veseen a lot of people that have
been there and say it's a prettyincredible place.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, you know what's amazing about it.
First of all, I had so muchtrouble packing to go there.
I went there in Qatar for theGrand Prix.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And I had so much trouble packing and I was
reading the young 2023 blogs bythese young bloggers and it's so
incredible how censored ourinternet is.
I packed like I was going to bea nun.
I got there and I had to goshopping because everybody was
in like short skirts and likesleeveless tops and I'm like
(02:23):
covered like you know, scarvesand dresses below the knee, even
to go out at night and likeeverybody's making fun of me and
I'm like, well, I didn't wantto be disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's nothing like what they say it is.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Isn't that something you know?
It's something I never thoughtof because you know, when you
look to pack like we went toAlaska this past summer and it's
the same kind of thing You'relooking to see how to pack
because you don't know.
You don't know how to pack.
It is funny how you know youread online but for there it's
how they want you to pack.
Is that right?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
but you know what?
They didn't care.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, so who puts that stuff out there?
They?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
don't care, they're so open and accepting.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Oh, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Nothing I read was true, and you know what I loved
it.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It's a great time and Qatar as well.
You know, I had a meeting withthe man who pretty much rebuilt
Qatar.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Um, when I was there, and it was the day after the
the attack on Israel.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Oh geez yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And he was very sad for his friends from Israel.
And he was not a Hamassupporter at all and he was very
open minded.
And you know, it's true, peopleare not necessarily their
government.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It's so true, so true .
I agree with that 100%.
I try to tell our kids thatwhen there's certain times where
we say things about you knowcertain places, and we'll say, I
always say, look, it's not thepeople, it's the government.
We dislike the government.
We dislike the way thegovernment controls the people.
We don't dislike the people.
The people are just like youand I.
You know, I'm not my governmenteither.
(03:56):
Even as as good as we feel theUnited States is, well, I'm
still not my government.
You know my own person.
So it's a good point, it's areally good point.
So I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
That's why I like to travel, because you don't
understand a culture untilyou're immersed in it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Absolutely, I totally agree with that.
So let's jump in a little bithere into your career.
You got a pretty amazing careerhere going on.
You started in real estate in2005 in New York City.
Now you're looking to go toMiami you said in 2023.
But one of the things thatstuck out to me and you can, you
can dig into this is thatyou're also a part of the realm
global.
(04:29):
Yeah, and what can you dig into?
What?
That is a little bit more forme, cause I'm not as familiar
with that.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So realm is an invite only membership of the top one
and a half percent or at leastthat's what they claim real
estate professionals in thecountry, in the world Sorry,
globally.
Wow, and it's a great networkand you do have to pay for the
membership, but it's nominalcompared to what you get out of
(04:55):
it, the connections that youmake.
We get access to WealthX, which, if you bought yourself, would
be $30,000 a year.
Wow, and it's just.
You know the amazing peoplearound the world you never know.
One of my girlfriends asked menot too long ago Kelly, do you,
do you have anybody in theVaughan area of Switzerland?
(05:15):
And I was like, yeah, wow,that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
So it's just a huge.
It's an international referralnetwork, basically too Right.
Yeah, that's incredible, andyou got asked to be in that.
Yeah, you were rated in theworld.
You were rated in the WallStreet Journal I can't remember
Right here as 1.5% top realtorsin the nation through Wall
Street Journal.
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Thank you.
You know I have to say I thinknot to like put myself down, but
I think it's easier, whenyou're in a market that where
the prices are so high, to makeit there, and I don't think it's
always necessarily fair, and Ithink that's why they do it by
price and volume you know andnumber of deals, because you
(06:01):
have to make it fair.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Oh, yeah, yeah, Absolutely yeah.
For me to do the productionyou're doing in New York City,
I'd have to sell like 1500 homesprobably.
Yeah, yeah, because I see someof the prices up there
incredible in New York City.
How is the market up there?
Why don't we talk about that alittle bit?
What's going on there?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's like, it's like, I'm sure it is where you are,
where it's, just there's notenough inventory.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, same here.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And a lot of what's out there for sale needs a
renovation and people just in mymarket anyway they don't want
to renovate right now.
Yeah, you know there's stillsupply chain issues and whatnot
and you have to jump through alot of hoops in New York City to
renovate.
But the things that arerenovated are going quickly and,
you know, despite interest ratehikes we haven't really dipped
(06:49):
in price.
We've kind of gone sideways andmaybe even in some sectors gone
up a little bit.
The starter home market isactually really strong, which I
was surprised about because ofinterest rates.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Starter home.
What's a starter home for you?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So start, you know in New York City like rock bottom
and it's very hard to find.
You could find something forabout 300,000.
But it is to be the size of awalk-in closet, maybe in a
regular home, if that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Right, right, wow, it's incredible yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I mean you know if that's really your entry point,
but you can do it.
I tell people all the time doit, because that's how you build
wealth.
And that's how you get to yourone bedroom and your two bedroom
and then your mansion.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, exactly.
So what's it?
So just curious, and then we'llmove on to the stuff here.
What's a two bedroom, two bathplace in New York, new York City
?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Okay, so it depends.
We have co-ops, we have condos.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Co-ops tend to be 20 to 30% less than condos, because
you're purchasing shares in acorporation, not real property.
There's a co-op or interview,all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So you can get something for about it's
starting one and a half, but youcan go all the way up to four
or five per condo for a two bed,two bath Wow that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, that's incredible.
And what's funny, what youdescribed your market as, which
is really interesting is thispretty much the same as ours?
It is.
The rates have done a littlebit of a difference, especially
on the really high end in ourmarket.
The really high end in ourmarket.
The rates have definitely theyhaven't depreciated, they just
kind of now they're a little bitmore level and in certain areas
they're still going up.
It depends on the location,depends on what you're selling.
(08:27):
So it sounds very much the same, because all my friends are
like oh, how can you be doingany business with the rates at
8% or seven and a half?
I'm like people wanna buy,they're gonna buy and right now,
with the inventory, you gottabuy it when you see it.
There's no such thing aswaiting for the rates to come
down because we don't know whenthat's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Absolutely, and you could always refinance.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And not to mention.
I mean a home is kind of like aprimitive thing, right, it's
shelter.
I mean a second home or avacation home, maybe not, but a
home is a primitive thing.
And not only that, but in NewYork City anyway, the rents are
insane.
People are just pissed off.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, oh yeah, rents are crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And they also have a mortgage.
They don't wanna pay $5,000 amonth for a studio.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That's incredible $5,000 a month for a studio.
That means that there's nobedroom really, it's just all in
one room, right?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Unbelievable you can zoom from the bed to the kitchen
, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
It's good, though, for when you're hungry in the
middle of night, because you canbasically just go off the side
of your bed and make a peanutbutter and jelly sandwich and
then bring it over and just eatit.
Right, it's very convenient, ohmy goodness.
So let's dig into some morestuff here.
So you tend to, from what I wasreading up here, you tend to do
some business with, like, thesports and entertainment world.
I was just thinking I knowTaylor's been up there recently
(09:44):
and you know cause.
Travis and her are the new hotitem.
So you selling a house toTravis at all?
You know now in New York City,I mean, what happens, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I wish.
I mean I wish, but like we allsidebar, we all know that
there's gonna be a song aboutTravis at that point.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh, of course, which is a breakup song.
That's what it is.
Totally yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
No, I wish I have dealt with a lot of people in
entertainment, a lot of peoplewho you might know.
That's all for you Mostlyentertainment because that's a
background I came from.
But I'm starting to get moreinto sports.
I do athlete education, so youknow that helps with the sports
end of things.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, I love the athlete education.
I had to look up NIL cause I'mnot a big sports person, I'm
more from the entertainmentbusiness myself.
So I was a singer for manyyears, played instruments and
things like that.
So when I looked up the NIL, myfriends would probably laugh at
me.
But yeah, that's a great ideawhere you say that you're
helping to educate them onbuilding passive income and
wealth through real estateinvestments.
(10:44):
I love that, cause a lot ofyoung people, when they get
money, whether it's through theNFL or the college or wherever
it is, they tend to just blow itand all of a sudden, if they
blow that and they also blow outa knee, they're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, so you're educating them on what to do
with it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
To a tee, exactly, yeah, and you know something
else is that you know you caneducate the senior players to
buy homes for the rookies torent.
Right always and the rookiescan all share the home cause.
That's what they do a lot oftimes.
And then the rookies can buysomething small.
They don't have to start in NewYork City.
(11:24):
They can start Niagara Falls,you know, somewhere outside of
Austin or Nashville that's upand coming, or whatever.
Put $50,000.
You know and put $10,000 down,just start small, start getting
some something with a goodreturn on investment and just
start building wealth andbuilding a passive income,
(11:44):
because you never know whenyou're going to get injured or
if you're going to be a one hitwonder.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, you're so right about that.
You know who else used tospecialize in.
That was Jason Abram from KellaWimps.
He had his own show.
It was a score of the deal andthat was a show that was on HGTV
.
He's now a big wig at KW, atKella Williams, and he had his
big thing was that he got out ofdoing.
He used to sell NFL playershomes and stuff like that and he
said one of the things that hewould see happen a lot is they
(12:13):
would just blow their money onthings and not buy a home or not
buy things that are tangible,that you can actually, you know,
hold on to and get and havevalue.
It's so interesting You'relooking to do the same thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
It was value.
When you drive them off the lot, they end up buying things for
their friends and their familyand whatnot, and I mean they
also a lot of times when you'rebrand new.
You don't understand the taximplications.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yes, exactly, cause when you blow that money, you
owe taxes on that money You'regetting.
Yeah, definitely, definitely,definitely.
That's interesting, so thenlet's go into.
So.
How did your podcast start?
It's Kelly minds her own, hermanners which manners is spelled
differently?
But tell me about that.
Did that start during thepandemic?
Did you start it before that?
Cause that's when I startedthis.
I started this.
(12:57):
Remember you were saying beforeabout you needed something to
do.
I, I, we got shut down inPennsylvania.
It was.
It was pretty rough here as faras getting shut down.
We got shut down and I said Ineed something to do.
I can't just sit here and notbe creative or not do something.
And that's when I started thepodcast.
So tell me about so.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you, tell me about yourpodcast.
(13:18):
I want to hear about this.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I started it in February.
It's called Kelly minds.
Her manners matters within likehomes cause.
You know we like the littleplay on word.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And it's about real estate and entrepreneurship.
I like to talk to people abouttheir story and I love hearing
about how people's failures ledthem to success or how something
that might be stigmastigmatized that might make
somebody else feel like they cannever succeed, didn't get in
their way, and they're supersuccessful despite it or because
(13:52):
of it.
Um, and so you know some.
A couple of people suggested Istart a podcast and I was like I
don't know, like I don't reallylisten to them.
I kind of feel like a fraud.
And then I started listening tosome and I was like this is
really cool.
I don't know if I'd be good atit, but I do love to hear
people's stories.
So I started it in February andyou know, we'll see, we'll,
(14:15):
we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Keep doing it.
Keep doing it, cause I thinkwhat you'll find too and not
that I'm any expert on it, butwhat you'll find is you'll,
you'll grow, you'll grow with it.
It's really strange, but you'llgrow with it.
You'll learn a lot from it.
In different ways, everybodyhas their own experience, but
it's it's a very enlighteningtype of experience.
I mean, this is my third year.
You go, I think we're going onthird year and it is.
(14:36):
I learn a lot and it helps mebe better.
It helps me be able to serve myclients better, help helps with
conversations and things.
So, no, I think you should keepdoing it, and we'll have to
touch base with you on that astime goes on.
So let's go into, let's go intothe pet thing, and then I want
to go into your passions,because they really match up
with a lot of the passions thatI have besides real estate.
Let's go into the pet productsthat you're going to be doing or
(14:57):
that you're selling.
I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Thanks.
So I have a company that we areabout to launch.
We just finished our businessplan and pitch deck and it's
called pawn shop for pets.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I love that.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I thought about it before the pandemic, when my dog
grew out of his crate andeverything else really quickly
and I had all this brand newstuff and nowhere to sell it and
I ended up giving it away.
But I was like there should bea dedicated place like eBay, but
just for pet products, or Etsyfor custom, you know pet
products or whatever.
(15:35):
And so when we had the lockdown, I decided I needed to do
something with myself and Idecided to go for it and it's
called pawn shop for pets and itis sustainable and it's like
Poshmark meets Etsy for petproducts and we have charitable
elements to it and we're goingto be donating some of our
(15:55):
proceeds to pet charities.
And it's not just dogs and cats, it's everything from like fish
and hamsters to horses andeverything in between.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You know how many times I've seen fish tanks in
basements that are not beingused.
Seriously, do you know what Imean?
Like I've seen, because becausewhat'll happen is their kids
get into having fish or whateverand they'll buy the nice tank
and the pump and all this stuffand then you go into the base of
the house and it's been there,probably even there for you
those cobwebs on it but there'sa place where, like right there,
a fish can have a home and it'sthere in somebody's basement,
(16:26):
right yeah, so I love that idea.
You definitely have to keep meinformed on that, because I want
to spread the word via socialmedia and stuff.
Once you get that, you know,really up and going, let me know
, because I think that's a goodone, that's a, that's a definite
niche that nobody's ever doneyet.
So I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I love that so much.
I hope I don't feel that beforeI launch.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Well, get it going, get it going, yeah.
So let's go into passions andthese are all just good things,
for business has nothing to dowith real estate, has to do with
business and also just being agood person and just want to go
through.
The couple of the things thatyou had on here was
relationships based businessversus transactional business.
You know what is that?
How you got to where you are.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think so.
You know, I'm lucky that I cansay in 18 years I've only had
three people who have transacted, again not transact with me, um
, and I think that's because Itry to take care of people and I
really try to do what's intheir best interests, and if I
don't think they should buy, orI don't think they should sell,
or I don't think this is a goodproperty for them from a
(17:27):
financial perspective, I say so.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And um you know, I think honesty and relationships
are so much more important thanquick cash.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
That's so true, so true.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Otherwise you're on the hamster wheel.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So true, yeah, and um , I'm reading a book right now.
You probably already read ittoo.
It's um, instead of go getter,it's go giver, the go giver.
I don't know if you've read it.
It's a really good book.
You should.
I'm reading it right now.
Uh, and I'll tell you why it'sreally good.
It's all about that.
It's about the fact of servingand giving.
Is is the most important partin any relationship when it
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comes to business to your, your,your spouses, your, your
children, your, your family,everything.
It's about giving and they talkabout it not being win win,
because win, win means that younegotiate it and it's 50, 50.
It should always be a hundredpercent, a hundred percent, so
you give a hundred percent intothe relationship and then you,
the other person, will mostlikely do the same.
(18:23):
But it's really a good book andit's a.
It's a story book.
It actually goes through thewhole process in a story, but
it's called go the go giver.
Definitely want to pick it up.
It's a great book.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I love that.
I'm gonna pick it up when Ihave my team read it.
I actually you know what.
I agree with you.
I always try to give somethingand you know I don't expect
anything in return.
And if I get something out ofit, great.
If I don't, karma will takecare of me.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Absolutely so true.
And then you have one here,embracing failures.
We talked about this a littlebit as embracing failures and
succeeding later from thelessons learned from those
failures.
So so true, you know you got toyou never, you should never
look like.
Tell my kids this all the timeDon't look at it as a failure,
look at it as a learningexperience.
As long as you, if you canswitch the mindset of what a
failure is, it's really just alearning experience.
(19:09):
You know that's really what itis.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, I agree, I you know it sucks when you screw up,
but I think if you stay downthere for a little bit and you
learn from it, you just get.
You grow so much from it.
And that's how you becomebetter.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Oh, so true, so true.
The one thing that I like heretoo, is that lifting up and
supporting other women inbusiness versus a cutthroat
mentality Boy, is that a goodone, you know?
And not to be sexist or saythat you know, guys don't do
that and women do what.
But the thing is, is that thecutthroat mentality for women
and I do see that a lot inbusiness it doesn't help anybody
(19:46):
.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's there and you're not being sexist.
Yeah, I just think that it's.
You know, there's enough roomfor all of us at the top, and I
think it's so important to liftother women up, and it's
unfortunate that women can be socompetitive in an unnecessary
way.
And so mean to each other whenwe should really be supportive
(20:09):
of one another.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Absolutely.
It's so true I see that all thetime.
And then the last thing you hadhere was negotiating from a
place of empathy and you knowyou don't hear that too much
when you read anything aboutnegotiation.
It can be cutthroat, it can besometimes that it's not a
win-win situation, but I don'tthink that's the correct way of
negotiating.
I think that was years ago.
That was the way peoplenegotiated, I think today you
(20:32):
know, obviously you have to bestrong, but you also have to
come from a place of empathy,thinking about the other person.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, I mean, I think you know there are certain
styles of negotiation that stillwork if you're like an
investment banker, but not ifyou're dealing with people's
homes and their maybe theirbiggest investment of their life
and and some somewhere thatthey're going to come back to
every day and try and findsolace.
(20:58):
And I think that you knowpeople make memories in their
homes and they want to sell themto a good person.
We all know that doesn't alwayshappen, yeah, but if everybody
can kind of win, I think,instead of there being a winner
and a loser, I think that thatis is the best way to go and I
think empathizing with bothsides and trying to just really
(21:21):
understand people and understandtheir motivation and what's
super important to them is thebest way to negotiate.
And listening, because if youjust talk, you're not going to
learn anything.
If you listen.
The silence is awkward andsomebody's going to talk and you
(21:42):
found out more information thatyou need to know to help them.
You know, make the rightdecision.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So true, so true.
So tell me something that youdo that's not real estate or
work or all this stuff that youreally enjoyed doing, that that
we would be like, oh, that'scool.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well, I travel a lot, but I try to turn that into
work.
Um, I work out, I like to workout.
I love my two rescue dogs,seamus and Fiona.
They're my children.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Awesome, yeah, I saw that on here.
What kind of dogs, what kind ofdogs.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
So they're both months.
Uh, I had them DNA tested so Iknow what they are.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
but you take me probably an hour to give you all
their breeds.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Uh, Seamus kind of looks like tramp from Lady in
the Tramp.
But he's don't know looks likea Chihuahua, but she's only a
little bit Chihuahua and she'sgot Yorkie coloring, so she's
really cute, but not yappy.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So, no, so no skydiving for you, no, like
bungee jumping, none of thatstuff.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I love a good roller coaster.
I'll tell you, I won't goskydiving because my mom had a
friend to spare.
Shoot didn't open and Ipromised her I'd never do it.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Oh, oh, that's terrible.
Oh my gosh, that was a bad oneto bring up Hugo.
You should have told me not tosay that.
No, that's terrible, but yes,so I loved having you on here.
You'll have to come back again,cause that went really fast,
really fast.
What a great conversation.
But yeah, so let's get togetheragain on the podcast here and
see where things go with yourpets, with all that other stuff
(23:06):
going on too, that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You're very welcome.
Alrighty, there you go.
There you have it, kellyRobinson man.
She's kicking butt up in NewYork city.
Now she's going to Miami.
She's going to be kicking buttdown there too, I can guarantee
you that.
But yeah, if you are in NewYork or in Miami and you need a
house and you want to look herup, also make sure you check out
when she gets that pet stuffgoing on.
I'm going to have that on oursocial media pages and also
(23:29):
check out her podcast.
It's found pretty mucheverywhere.
It's Kelly Mines, her manners,and manners is spelled M A N O R
S.
All right, that's about it.
We'll see you again nextThursday at 7pm.
Hello, this is Brad Weissman.
You're listening to Real Estateand you we are back in the
studio with another specialguest.
We got some really good guestscoming in, lili, I gotta tell
you I'm very excited about theguest today.
She is back here in New YorkCity fresh from Dubai and she is
all over the place in RealEstate.
She's doing all kinds of things.
(00:21):
She also is gonna be starting awebsite for pets, selling used
pet stuff.
I mean, it's pretty interestingwhat she's doing, but without
any other delay here.
Kelly Robinson, how are youdoing today?
Good, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm doing great, I'm just gonna say how much I love
your intro.
Oh, thank you it's a greatvoice and you're so engaging and
like I wish I could do that.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, I've seen your show and you do a fantastic job.
You do Absolutely.
I've watched a couple of yourepisodes of watching little
pieces here and there, because Ialways like to see other
podcasts.
I do.
I.
Do you learn from each one youlisten to?
As a way I look at it?
Thanks for being here so freshfrom Dubai.
When did you get back fromDubai?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I think I got back Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Tuesday Wow, and so you're all upside down.
Are you back to your normalsleep patterns and all those
things?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm getting there.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, it takes a while.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I woke up at 3.30, which was the best I've done in
a while.
Wow, I think I fell asleep atlike 7.45 last night.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, that's so weird becauseit takes, like you said, it's an
eight-hour difference and thatjust really is hard to get your
body back into that patternagain of our time here in New
York, where you're in New Yorkand I'm here in Reading, but
same time period.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, and I always try and time it when I sleep on
the flights.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, but you always have to adjust, but you know
what it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Absolutely.
I've seen pictures and I'veseen a lot of people that have
been there and say it's a prettyincredible place.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, you know what's amazing about it.
First of all, I had so muchtrouble packing to go there.
I went there in Qatar for theGrand Prix.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And I had so much trouble packing and I was
reading the young 2023 blogs bythese young bloggers and it's so
incredible how censored ourinternet is.
I packed like I was going to bea nun.
I got there and I had to goshopping because everybody was
in like short skirts and likesleeveless tops and I'm like
(02:23):
covered like you know, scarvesand dresses below the knee, even
to go out at night and likeeverybody's making fun of me and
I'm like, well, I didn't wantto be disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's nothing like what they say it is.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Isn't that something you know?
It's something I never thoughtof because you know, when you
look to pack like we went toAlaska this past summer and it's
the same kind of thing You'relooking to see how to pack
because you don't know.
You don't know how to pack.
It is funny how you know youread online but for there it's
how they want you to pack.
Is that right?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
but you know what?
They didn't care.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, so who puts that stuff out there?
They?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
don't care, they're so open and accepting.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Oh, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Nothing I read was true, and you know what I loved
it.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It's a great time and Qatar as well.
You know, I had a meeting withthe man who pretty much rebuilt
Qatar.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Um, when I was there, and it was the day after the
the attack on Israel.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Oh geez yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And he was very sad for his friends from Israel.
And he was not a Hamassupporter at all and he was very
open minded.
And you know, it's true, peopleare not necessarily their
government.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It's so true, so true .
I agree with that 100%.
I try to tell our kids thatwhen there's certain times where
we say things about you knowcertain places, and we'll say, I
always say, look, it's not thepeople, it's the government.
We dislike the government.
We dislike the way thegovernment controls the people.
We don't dislike the people.
The people are just like youand I.
You know, I'm not my governmenteither.
(03:56):
Even as as good as we feel theUnited States is, well, I'm
still not my government.
You know my own person.
So it's a good point, it's areally good point.
So I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
That's why I like to travel, because you don't
understand a culture untilyou're immersed in it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Absolutely, I totally agree with that.
So let's jump in a little bithere into your career.
You got a pretty amazing careerhere going on.
You started in real estate in2005 in New York City.
Now you're looking to go toMiami you said in 2023.
But one of the things thatstuck out to me and you can, you
can dig into this is thatyou're also a part of the realm
global.
(04:29):
Yeah, and what can you dig into?
What?
That is a little bit more forme, cause I'm not as familiar
with that.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So realm is an invite only membership of the top one
and a half percent or at leastthat's what they claim real
estate professionals in thecountry, in the world Sorry,
globally.
Wow, and it's a great networkand you do have to pay for the
membership, but it's nominalcompared to what you get out of
(04:55):
it, the connections that youmake.
We get access to WealthX, which, if you bought yourself, would
be $30,000 a year.
Wow, and it's just.
You know the amazing peoplearound the world you never know.
One of my girlfriends asked menot too long ago Kelly, do you,
do you have anybody in theVaughan area of Switzerland?
(05:15):
And I was like, yeah, wow,that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
So it's just a huge.
It's an international referralnetwork, basically too Right.
Yeah, that's incredible, andyou got asked to be in that.
Yeah, you were rated in theworld.
You were rated in the WallStreet Journal I can't remember
Right here as 1.5% top realtorsin the nation through Wall
Street Journal.
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Thank you.
You know I have to say I thinknot to like put myself down, but
I think it's easier, whenyou're in a market that where
the prices are so high, to makeit there, and I don't think it's
always necessarily fair, and Ithink that's why they do it by
price and volume you know andnumber of deals, because you
(06:01):
have to make it fair.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Oh, yeah, yeah, Absolutely yeah.
For me to do the productionyou're doing in New York City,
I'd have to sell like 1500 homesprobably.
Yeah, yeah, because I see someof the prices up there
incredible in New York City.
How is the market up there?
Why don't we talk about that alittle bit?
What's going on there?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's like, it's like, I'm sure it is where you are,
where it's, just there's notenough inventory.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, same here.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And a lot of what's out there for sale needs a
renovation and people just in mymarket anyway they don't want
to renovate right now.
Yeah, you know there's stillsupply chain issues and whatnot
and you have to jump through alot of hoops in New York City to
renovate.
But the things that arerenovated are going quickly and,
you know, despite interest ratehikes we haven't really dipped
(06:49):
in price.
We've kind of gone sideways andmaybe even in some sectors gone
up a little bit.
The starter home market isactually really strong, which I
was surprised about because ofinterest rates.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Starter home.
What's a starter home for you?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So start, you know in New York City like rock bottom
and it's very hard to find.
You could find something forabout 300,000.
But it is to be the size of awalk-in closet, maybe in a
regular home, if that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Right, right, wow, it's incredible yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I mean you know if that's really your entry point,
but you can do it.
I tell people all the time doit, because that's how you build
wealth.
And that's how you get to yourone bedroom and your two bedroom
and then your mansion.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, exactly.
So what's it?
So just curious, and then we'llmove on to the stuff here.
What's a two bedroom, two bathplace in New York, new York City
?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Okay, so it depends.
We have co-ops, we have condos.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Co-ops tend to be 20 to 30% less than condos, because
you're purchasing shares in acorporation, not real property.
There's a co-op or interview,all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So you can get something for about it's
starting one and a half, but youcan go all the way up to four
or five per condo for a two bed,two bath Wow that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, that's incredible.
And what's funny, what youdescribed your market as, which
is really interesting is thispretty much the same as ours?
It is.
The rates have done a littlebit of a difference, especially
on the really high end in ourmarket.
The really high end in ourmarket.
The rates have definitely theyhaven't depreciated, they just
kind of now they're a little bitmore level and in certain areas
they're still going up.
It depends on the location,depends on what you're selling.
(08:27):
So it sounds very much the same, because all my friends are
like oh, how can you be doingany business with the rates at
8% or seven and a half?
I'm like people wanna buy,they're gonna buy and right now,
with the inventory, you gottabuy it when you see it.
There's no such thing aswaiting for the rates to come
down because we don't know whenthat's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Absolutely, and you could always refinance.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And not to mention.
I mean a home is kind of like aprimitive thing, right, it's
shelter.
I mean a second home or avacation home, maybe not, but a
home is a primitive thing.
And not only that, but in NewYork City anyway, the rents are
insane.
People are just pissed off.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, oh yeah, rents are crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And they also have a mortgage.
They don't wanna pay $5,000 amonth for a studio.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That's incredible $5,000 a month for a studio.
That means that there's nobedroom really, it's just all in
one room, right?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Unbelievable you can zoom from the bed to the kitchen
, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
It's good, though, for when you're hungry in the
middle of night, because you canbasically just go off the side
of your bed and make a peanutbutter and jelly sandwich and
then bring it over and just eatit.
Right, it's very convenient, ohmy goodness.
So let's dig into some morestuff here.
So you tend to, from what I wasreading up here, you tend to do
some business with, like, thesports and entertainment world.
I was just thinking I knowTaylor's been up there recently
(09:44):
and you know cause.
Travis and her are the new hotitem.
So you selling a house toTravis at all?
You know now in New York City,I mean, what happens, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I wish.
I mean I wish, but like we allsidebar, we all know that
there's gonna be a song aboutTravis at that point.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh, of course, which is a breakup song.
That's what it is.
Totally yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
No, I wish I have dealt with a lot of people in
entertainment, a lot of peoplewho you might know.
That's all for you Mostlyentertainment because that's a
background I came from.
But I'm starting to get moreinto sports.
I do athlete education, so youknow that helps with the sports
end of things.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, I love the athlete education.
I had to look up NIL cause I'mnot a big sports person, I'm
more from the entertainmentbusiness myself.
So I was a singer for manyyears, played instruments and
things like that.
So when I looked up the NIL, myfriends would probably laugh at
me.
But yeah, that's a great ideawhere you say that you're
helping to educate them onbuilding passive income and
wealth through real estateinvestments.
(10:44):
I love that, cause a lot ofyoung people, when they get
money, whether it's through theNFL or the college or wherever
it is, they tend to just blow itand all of a sudden, if they
blow that and they also blow outa knee, they're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, so you're educating them on what to do
with it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
To a tee, exactly, yeah, and you know something
else is that you know you caneducate the senior players to
buy homes for the rookies torent.
Right always and the rookiescan all share the home cause.
That's what they do a lot oftimes.
And then the rookies can buysomething small.
They don't have to start in NewYork City.
(11:24):
They can start Niagara Falls,you know, somewhere outside of
Austin or Nashville that's upand coming, or whatever.
Put $50,000.
You know and put $10,000 down,just start small, start getting
some something with a goodreturn on investment and just
start building wealth andbuilding a passive income,
(11:44):
because you never know whenyou're going to get injured or
if you're going to be a one hitwonder.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, you're so right about that.
You know who else used tospecialize in.
That was Jason Abram from KellaWimps.
He had his own show.
It was a score of the deal andthat was a show that was on HGTV
.
He's now a big wig at KW, atKella Williams, and he had his
big thing was that he got out ofdoing.
He used to sell NFL playershomes and stuff like that and he
said one of the things that hewould see happen a lot is they
(12:13):
would just blow their money onthings and not buy a home or not
buy things that are tangible,that you can actually, you know,
hold on to and get and havevalue.
It's so interesting You'relooking to do the same thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
It was value.
When you drive them off the lot, they end up buying things for
their friends and their familyand whatnot, and I mean they
also a lot of times when you'rebrand new.
You don't understand the taximplications.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yes, exactly, cause when you blow that money, you
owe taxes on that money You'regetting.
Yeah, definitely, definitely,definitely.
That's interesting, so thenlet's go into.
So.
How did your podcast start?
It's Kelly minds her own, hermanners which manners is spelled
differently?
But tell me about that.
Did that start during thepandemic?
Did you start it before that?
Cause that's when I startedthis.
I started this.
(12:57):
Remember you were saying beforeabout you needed something to
do.
I, I, we got shut down inPennsylvania.
It was.
It was pretty rough here as faras getting shut down.
We got shut down and I said Ineed something to do.
I can't just sit here and notbe creative or not do something.
And that's when I started thepodcast.
So tell me about so.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you, tell me about yourpodcast.
(13:18):
I want to hear about this.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I started it in February.
It's called Kelly minds.
Her manners matters within likehomes cause.
You know we like the littleplay on word.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And it's about real estate and entrepreneurship.
I like to talk to people abouttheir story and I love hearing
about how people's failures ledthem to success or how something
that might be stigmastigmatized that might make
somebody else feel like they cannever succeed, didn't get in
their way, and they're supersuccessful despite it or because
(13:52):
of it.
Um, and so you know some.
A couple of people suggested Istart a podcast and I was like I
don't know, like I don't reallylisten to them.
I kind of feel like a fraud.
And then I started listening tosome and I was like this is
really cool.
I don't know if I'd be good atit, but I do love to hear
people's stories.
So I started it in February andyou know, we'll see, we'll,
(14:15):
we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Keep doing it.
Keep doing it, cause I thinkwhat you'll find too and not
that I'm any expert on it, butwhat you'll find is you'll,
you'll grow, you'll grow with it.
It's really strange, but you'llgrow with it.
You'll learn a lot from it.
In different ways, everybodyhas their own experience, but
it's it's a very enlighteningtype of experience.
I mean, this is my third year.
You go, I think we're going onthird year and it is.
(14:36):
I learn a lot and it helps mebe better.
It helps me be able to serve myclients better, help helps with
conversations and things.
So, no, I think you should keepdoing it, and we'll have to
touch base with you on that astime goes on.
So let's go into, let's go intothe pet thing, and then I want
to go into your passions,because they really match up
with a lot of the passions thatI have besides real estate.
Let's go into the pet productsthat you're going to be doing or
(14:57):
that you're selling.
I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Thanks.
So I have a company that we areabout to launch.
We just finished our businessplan and pitch deck and it's
called pawn shop for pets.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I love that.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I thought about it before the pandemic, when my dog
grew out of his crate andeverything else really quickly
and I had all this brand newstuff and nowhere to sell it and
I ended up giving it away.
But I was like there should bea dedicated place like eBay, but
just for pet products, or Etsyfor custom, you know pet
products or whatever.
(15:35):
And so when we had the lockdown, I decided I needed to do
something with myself and Idecided to go for it and it's
called pawn shop for pets and itis sustainable and it's like
Poshmark meets Etsy for petproducts and we have charitable
elements to it and we're goingto be donating some of our
(15:55):
proceeds to pet charities.
And it's not just dogs and cats, it's everything from like fish
and hamsters to horses andeverything in between.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You know how many times I've seen fish tanks in
basements that are not beingused.
Seriously, do you know what Imean?
Like I've seen, because becausewhat'll happen is their kids
get into having fish or whateverand they'll buy the nice tank
and the pump and all this stuffand then you go into the base of
the house and it's been there,probably even there for you
those cobwebs on it but there'sa place where, like right there,
a fish can have a home and it'sthere in somebody's basement,
(16:26):
right yeah, so I love that idea.
You definitely have to keep meinformed on that, because I want
to spread the word via socialmedia and stuff.
Once you get that, you know,really up and going, let me know
, because I think that's a goodone, that's a, that's a definite
niche that nobody's ever doneyet.
So I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I love that so much.
I hope I don't feel that beforeI launch.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Well, get it going, get it going, yeah.
So let's go into passions andthese are all just good things,
for business has nothing to dowith real estate, has to do with
business and also just being agood person and just want to go
through.
The couple of the things thatyou had on here was
relationships based businessversus transactional business.
You know what is that?
How you got to where you are.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think so.
You know, I'm lucky that I cansay in 18 years I've only had
three people who have transacted, again not transact with me, um
, and I think that's because Itry to take care of people and I
really try to do what's intheir best interests, and if I
don't think they should buy, orI don't think they should sell,
or I don't think this is a goodproperty for them from a
(17:27):
financial perspective, I say so.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And um you know, I think honesty and relationships
are so much more important thanquick cash.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
That's so true, so true.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Otherwise you're on the hamster wheel.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So true, yeah, and um , I'm reading a book right now.
You probably already read ittoo.
It's um, instead of go getter,it's go giver, the go giver.
I don't know if you've read it.
It's a really good book.
You should.
I'm reading it right now.
Uh, and I'll tell you why it'sreally good.
It's all about that.
It's about the fact of servingand giving.
Is is the most important partin any relationship when it
(18:02):
comes to business to your, your,your spouses, your, your
children, your, your family,everything.
It's about giving and they talkabout it not being win win,
because win, win means that younegotiate it and it's 50, 50.
It should always be a hundredpercent, a hundred percent, so
you give a hundred percent intothe relationship and then you,
the other person, will mostlikely do the same.
(18:23):
But it's really a good book andit's a.
It's a story book.
It actually goes through thewhole process in a story, but
it's called go the go giver.
Definitely want to pick it up.
It's a great book.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I love that.
I'm gonna pick it up when Ihave my team read it.
I actually you know what.
I agree with you.
I always try to give somethingand you know I don't expect
anything in return.
And if I get something out ofit, great.
If I don't, karma will takecare of me.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Absolutely so true.
And then you have one here,embracing failures.
We talked about this a littlebit as embracing failures and
succeeding later from thelessons learned from those
failures.
So so true, you know you got toyou never, you should never
look like.
Tell my kids this all the timeDon't look at it as a failure,
look at it as a learningexperience.
As long as you, if you canswitch the mindset of what a
failure is, it's really just alearning experience.
(19:09):
You know that's really what itis.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, I agree, I you know it sucks when you screw up,
but I think if you stay downthere for a little bit and you
learn from it, you just get.
You grow so much from it.
And that's how you becomebetter.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Oh, so true, so true.
The one thing that I like heretoo, is that lifting up and
supporting other women inbusiness versus a cutthroat
mentality Boy, is that a goodone, you know?
And not to be sexist or saythat you know, guys don't do
that and women do what.
But the thing is, is that thecutthroat mentality for women
and I do see that a lot inbusiness it doesn't help anybody
(19:46):
.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's there and you're not being sexist.
Yeah, I just think that it's.
You know, there's enough roomfor all of us at the top, and I
think it's so important to liftother women up, and it's
unfortunate that women can be socompetitive in an unnecessary
way.
And so mean to each other whenwe should really be supportive
(20:09):
of one another.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Absolutely.
It's so true I see that all thetime.
And then the last thing you hadhere was negotiating from a
place of empathy and you knowyou don't hear that too much
when you read anything aboutnegotiation.
It can be cutthroat, it can besometimes that it's not a
win-win situation, but I don'tthink that's the correct way of
negotiating.
I think that was years ago.
That was the way peoplenegotiated, I think today you
(20:32):
know, obviously you have to bestrong, but you also have to
come from a place of empathy,thinking about the other person.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, I mean, I think you know there are certain
styles of negotiation that stillwork if you're like an
investment banker, but not ifyou're dealing with people's
homes and their maybe theirbiggest investment of their life
and and some somewhere thatthey're going to come back to
every day and try and findsolace.
(20:58):
And I think that you knowpeople make memories in their
homes and they want to sell themto a good person.
We all know that doesn't alwayshappen, yeah, but if everybody
can kind of win, I think,instead of there being a winner
and a loser, I think that thatis is the best way to go and I
think empathizing with bothsides and trying to just really
(21:21):
understand people and understandtheir motivation and what's
super important to them is thebest way to negotiate.
And listening, because if youjust talk, you're not going to
learn anything.
If you listen.
The silence is awkward andsomebody's going to talk and you
(21:42):
found out more information thatyou need to know to help them.
You know, make the rightdecision.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So true, so true.
So tell me something that youdo that's not real estate or
work or all this stuff that youreally enjoyed doing, that that
we would be like, oh, that'scool.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well, I travel a lot, but I try to turn that into
work.
Um, I work out, I like to workout.
I love my two rescue dogs,seamus and Fiona.
They're my children.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Awesome, yeah, I saw that on here.
What kind of dogs, what kind ofdogs.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
So they're both months.
Uh, I had them DNA tested so Iknow what they are.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
but you take me probably an hour to give you all
their breeds.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Uh, Seamus kind of looks like tramp from Lady in
the Tramp.
But he's don't know looks likea Chihuahua, but she's only a
little bit Chihuahua and she'sgot Yorkie coloring, so she's
really cute, but not yappy.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So, no, so no skydiving for you, no, like
bungee jumping, none of thatstuff.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I love a good roller coaster.
I'll tell you, I won't goskydiving because my mom had a
friend to spare.
Shoot didn't open and Ipromised her I'd never do it.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Oh, oh, that's terrible.
Oh my gosh, that was a bad oneto bring up Hugo.
You should have told me not tosay that.
No, that's terrible, but yes,so I loved having you on here.
You'll have to come back again,cause that went really fast,
really fast.
What a great conversation.
But yeah, so let's get togetheragain on the podcast here and
see where things go with yourpets, with all that other stuff
(23:06):
going on too, that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You're very welcome.
Alrighty, there you go.
There you have it, kellyRobinson man.
She's kicking butt up in NewYork city.
Now she's going to Miami.
She's going to be kicking buttdown there too, I can guarantee
you that.
But yeah, if you are in NewYork or in Miami and you need a
house and you want to look herup, also make sure you check out
when she gets that pet stuffgoing on.
I'm going to have that on oursocial media pages and also
(23:29):
check out her podcast.
It's found pretty mucheverywhere.
It's Kelly Mines, her manners,and manners is spelled M A N O R
S.
All right, that's about it.
We'll see you again nextThursday at 7pm.
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